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27TH MAY 2010
MERCENARY COPS RUIN THE DAY
On the 27th May 2010, Adam Davis from Truth Movement Australia Website sent a message to Arthur Cristian requesting the live audio recorded interview with Thomas Anderson (see below) be taken down. For the reasons why Adam want's this recording taken down and to read his message please scroll down to the comments section below. Arthur & Fiona Cristian have decided to leave the links to this recording up for now.
Audio: Live Interview With Thomas Anderson About The Strawman
Interviewed By Adam Davis TruthMovementAustralia.com.au
28th January 2009
Part One: http://www.zshare.net/audio/5485964026c8ef48 - 50 Minutes - Can also be downloaded from this location - 22.84MB mp3 file
Part Two: http://www.zshare.net/audio/548937360de2ee12 - 1 Hour 42 Minutes (includes part one) - Can also be downloaded from this location - 140.12MB mp3 file
TMA Live Interview With Thomas Anderson Ready For Download
by Adam Davis on January 30th, 2009, posted in Live Interviews
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We realise that some people may find the Love for Life website overwhelming as it contains a huge amount of information that is being added to all the time. To help people, particularly those visiting for the first time, we have provided a brief overview of the Love For Life work and a guide to the different parts of the website below. We have condensed the main insights of the Love for Life work into point format, starting below. We have written about all the topics given in great detail but this overview can be read in about an hour thus saving many, many hours reading all our articles. We have provided links where possible for those who wish to explore subject matter in more detail. From April - September 2010, we have had many Facebook discussions with Christians, New Agers and others where we cover the points (insights) below in great detail. All these discussions and Love For Life articles can be found here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 podcasts and videos here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7309 and the link to the latest series of Facebook discussions are located here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7394 We always go where the truth takes us and make sure we can back up the information we share.
While the website covers many, many topics, from freeman/sovereign to health to chemtrails to banking to conspiracies, our passion is in creating remedy because, until we have a remedy to "The System" we all suffer under, we will still suffer under "The System". As always, we welcome contact from those also inspired to co-create a world of Do No Harm Communities (Kindoms) where we support, nurture and co-create the dream of LIFE that is who we really are and what we are really part of.
Love For Life
The body of the Love For Life work commenced in March 2005 and the Love For Life website started in December 2006 as a response to the effects of bank and tax fraud on our family between 2005 and 2006 and the condoning of that bank fraud by Supreme Court Judges, barristers, media, politicians, public servants, big business representatives, etc. For more details, see point 5 below "If You Would Like To Read About The Cristian Family NSW Supreme Court Case". From owning two businesses and the family home, we were left with basically no means to support our four young daughters and with no "community immunity", i.e. no one standing alongside us to prevent the powers that be from stamping all over us. We have come across many, many similar cases to ours, with families being torn apart as everything they have worked hard for is stolen from them by men and women hiding behind costumes and titles and, when they look for help, there is no one around who can, or will, do anything. Most of them, like us, had unloseable court cases that they lost.
Our choice to do something about this corruption led us to follow our intuition and go right outside the square, meeting many amazing men and women along the way, coming up against the heavies of "The System" a few times and documenting the harm doing, and uncovering information we never expected to find. Realising that commerce is one of the major evils of what we call "The System", we do not charge anything for the work we do, which means that we are still very poor!
After writing many, many thousands of words and talking for many, many hours with many, many people, we have found that the truth is, of course, very simple while the lies we live under are very complicated and interwoven. This means that we need several paragraphs to explain "The system" and only one to explain the remedy. Below is an explanation of the main points:
a). Every man, woman and child is equal and has a creator's standing (inherent right) to a roof over their head, a few acres of land to grow food, access to fresh water and clean air and the right to pass that land on to descendants. No one should ever have to worry about being displaced or having debt collectors or sheriffs knocking on the door or anything else to do with fear based enFORCEment.
b). LIFE is a gift and we are supposed to be gifts for LIFE, serving the dream of LIFE by doing no harm to LIFE and co-creating the dream of LIFE with all other LIFE forms of LIFE. MAN is LIFE and LIFE is MAN; without MAN to think and feel LIFE here and now, there would be no one to think and feel LIFE and LIFE would not exist. MAN is the embodiment of the living Creator of the living dream of LIFE, gifted with the power of thought and the free will to co-create Paradise or a world of chaos and destruction.
c). LIFE is information. When we distort the information of LIFE and then eat it, drink it, process it, manipulate it, work with it, worship it, think and feel it, etc, etc, not only does LIFE become distorted but, as we are part of LIFE, we become distorted too. We can choose to live our lives based on information that causes harm to LIFE or on information that nurtures and supports LIFE that is who we really are.
d). We live under a system that allows men and women to harm each other and earth and think they have the right to do so, and that allows some men and women to be "more equal" than others - "All Men Are Equal But Some Are More Equal Than Others".
e). None of the powers that be will ever admit to wanting to do harm, nor will they publicly deny everyone's creator's standing as described in point a) above.
f). "The System" is not real; it was dreamt up in the imagination of the Grand Architect of "The System". It has no LIFE, no substance, and can only appear to exist through the use of and destruction to LIFE and through the enslavement of men and women to maintain it. It is dead and cannot maintain or reproduce itself and has no gifts for LIFE. It needs some to have power over others, to be able to wield authority over those who reject "The System" and whose intention is to live outside "The System", because, if everyone decided to live outside "The System", there would be no system (no illusion). "The System" is an artificial world, a fairytale, superimposed over the real world of LIFE and is the cancer destroying LIFE at an ever increasing rate. Another name for "The System" is "HELL". See point 1 below, "The Body Of The Love For Life Work by Arthur and Fiona Cristian". All civilisations are of "The System", they are all apocalyptic by design and all collapse because they are not LIFE sustainable, making way for the latest model of civilisation to appear out of the wreckage of the last.
Click here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7411 to continue reading or see below for a guide around the Love For Life website and to see some videos we created mid 2009 based on some of the insights. As we keep developing these ideas we plan to create animated stories, documentaries, and a story to be the basis of a film.
Which Unravels The Reasons For The Chaos, Mayhem and Confusion Being Experienced In The World Today, Explains The Need For "Community Immunity" and Responsibility, and Focuses On The Creation Of Kindoms - Do No Harm, Life-Sustainable Communities (As The Remedy That Heals All Mans Woes) - And How We Can Co-Create Them. For Comments, Articles And Discussions, Go Here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 - Also Go Here To See Podcasts And Videos Posted by Arthur & Fiona Cristian: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7309 - The Information Shared Comes From Inspiration, Intuition, Heartfelt-Logic And Information Gathered From Nature And Many Amazing Men And Women Along The Way. It Is Not Found In Any Books Or Channellings, Or Talked About By "Experts".
go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1125 and for more on Eco Homes, Villages, Organic and Permaculture Gardening and Life-Sustainability, etc, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3641 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1985 and Mikhail Petrovich Shchetinin - Kin's School - Lycee School at Tekos: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5173
go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5068 - LIFE is information. When we distort LIFE and then eat, drink, absorb, think, feel, hear, see, touch, taste, smell and perform these distortions, the information of LIFE, your LIFE, our LIFE, our children's lives, everyone's LIFE, is distorted.
Which Covers Topics From Health to Chemtrails/Haarp to Brain Control to Archaeology to Astronomy Geocentricity Heliocentricity to Pandemics Bird Flu Swine Flu to Fluoride to Cancer to Free Energy to Global Warming, 9/11, Bali Bombings, Aspartame, MSG, Vaccinations, Aids/HIV, Mercury, New World Order, Satanism, Religions, Cults, Sects, Symbolism, etc, etc, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/82
(Macquarie Bank/Perpetual Limited Bank Fraud Condoned By Judges, Registrars, Barristers, Lawyers, Politicians, Public Servants, Bureaucrats, Big Business and Media Representatives - A Crime Syndicate/Terrorist Organisation) Which Prompted The Creation Of This Love For Life Website December 2006, And The Shooting And Torture Of Supporters Who Assisted Us In Reclaiming The Family Home, Joe Bryant And His Wife, Both In Their Late 70's, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5 And Read Some Of Our Email Correspondence With Lawyer Paul Kean - Macedone Christie Willis Solari Partners - Miranda Sydney May 17th-June 27th 2006: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7300
go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/australian_stories (If you have a story you would like us to put up, we would love to here from you:
action @ loveforlife.com.au)
Evidence Revealing How Victims Did Not Break The Peace, Caused No Crime or Harm, There Were No Injured Parties. Documenting Incontrovertible Evidence Demonstrating How The Powers That Be (PTB) And Their Lackeys Will Break All The Laws They Are Supposed To Uphold. They Will Kidnap, Intimidate, Terrorise, Rape, Pillage, Plunder And Lie And Take Responsibility For None Of It. All Part Of Their Tactics Of Using Fear And Trauma To Keep Us In Our Place. Relatives Of Those Under Their Radar Are Also Not Safe From Attack And Intimidation. All Starting From A $25 Fine For Not Voting And A $65 Fine For Not Changing A Dog Registration. We Do Not Have Freedom And Can Only Appear To Have Freedom If We Comply. Regardless How Small The Matter The PTB Throw Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars Away To Enforce Their Will.... Go Here:
Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office - Part One to Part Nine - From 17th October 2008 And Still Continuing:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6319 or
Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office
Part One: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5742 - From 17th October 2008
Part Two: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6135 - From 18th December 2008
Part Three: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6295 - From 9th January 2009
Part Four: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6296 - From 14th January 2009
Part Five: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6375 - The Sick Puppy - From 20th February 2009
Part Six: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6390 - Police Officers, Sheriff’s Officers, Tow Truck Driver and State Debt Recovery Office Blatantly Ignore the Law To Rape, Pillage and Plunder The Private Property Of Fiona Cristian - From 11th March 2009
Part Seven: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6445 - Affidavit Of Truth - Letter To The Queen + Australia: Fascism is Corporatism - From 30th March 2009
Part Eight: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6652 - The Pirates Auction And The Ghost Of VSL386 - From 4th April 2009
Part Nine: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7073 - Arthur Cristian's Letter To Pru Goward MP - From 15th December 2009
go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/895 - For Common Law, Democracy, Constitution, Trial By Jury, Fee Simple, etc, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/category/main/law-articles-documents
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Love For Life does not support harm doing in any shape or form. However, we are supporters of free speech and post articles, documentaries, etc, that represent a wide cross section of ideas. See the Love For Life extensive research library where over 8000 documents, articles and videos are posted: http://loveforlife.com.au/issues. We clearly see the evidence of the destruction to MAN and the earth that has been caused by ALL religions over the centuries and are therefore not supporters of religions, cults, sects or any group that demands conformity of thought, speech or action, or has rules, regulations or rituals that must be followed. Religions, nationalities and cultural "identities" are formed as a result of the brainwashing we receive from childhood. They are part of the tactics the Establishment uses to keep us all divided from one another and fighting one another.
All religions promote discrimination and division, leading to hatred and even violence and murder. None of them have yet to produce a remedy to all the suffering, poverty, unhappiness and discrimination in the world. If any religion truly had the remedy to all the suffering on earth, there would no longer be any suffering. What have Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, atheism and the New Age done to end the suffering in the world?
The Love For Life website has information from all sides on many subjects, whether about Islam, Judaism, Christianity, Law, health, psychology, mind control, vaccination, aspartame, MSG, Chemtrails etc. There are over 6000 articles, documentaries etc on the website and they are so diverse that we are sure that everyone would be able to find something they loved and something they hated, if they took the time to search. If we removed all the articles hated by everyone, there would probably be nothing left! We are not anti anyone but freedom of speech is freedom of speech and no one should condemn the work of another without taking the time to research the subject themselves. Yes, there are articles by those who have a less-than-rosy-viewpoint of Judaism, but there are also articles on the dark side of Tibetan Buddhism (and it is very dark) for those who are interested in the truth: Tibet - Buddhism - Dalai Lama: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6271 Should the authors of these articles be abused and imprisoned for daring to challenge the widely conceived reputation of Buddhism as being the religion of peace and love and that of the Dalai Lama as a saint, or should those interested be allowed to study the work and come to their own conclusions? The same applies to all the articles, documentaries, etc, about Christianity, Islam, Freemasonry, New World Order, etc.
The Love for Life website also shows how the Rule of Law, the Bar, the Government, the Monarchy, the system of commerce, the local, national and multi/trans-national private corporations, all the courses and careers on offer from our universities, all the educators, scientists, academics and experts, the aristocrats and the Establishment bloodlines have also done NOTHING to end the suffering in the world. The website maps the insanity of a world where there is no help for those in need, just as there was no help available for us when we were victims of terrible bank fraud: http://loveforlife.com.au/court_case (orchestrated, condoned and protected by an international crime syndicate/terrorist organisation of judges, barristers, registrars, lawyers, politicians, banksters, big business representatives, media moguls and other lackeys who, all together, put up a wall of silence despite our trying many, many avenues. After the family home was stolen and business destroyed we were left close to poverty and destitution caring for 4 young daughters. Three years later not much has changed regardless of all our efforts. Where were all the followers of all the religions to help us? Or do we have to be members of those religions to receive help from others involved in them?
We have been accused of being anti - Jewish because we had posted an excerpt from James von Brun's book: Kill the Best Gentiles! http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6054 in which he blames Jews for the problems of the world. Obviously this is not our view because of what we have stated above. We do not hate anyone, whatever religion they follow. We are always open to talk to any religious leader or politician and meet with any judge, member of the Bar, experts, academics, educators etc to share the remedy we offer that heals all the divisions between MAN and MAN, and MAN and the EARTH.
Today, a representative of the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies is threatening to close the website down, because they have decided it is anti - Jewish and that we promote racism. What has the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies done to end the suffering in the world? Can they show that they are concerned with the suffering of ALL men, women and children AND ARE SEEN TO BE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT or are they only concerned with Jewish affairs? If so, they, along with all the other religions that only care for their own, are part of the problem, not part of the solution. The man who rang Arthur today was only concerned with Jewish affairs; he was not interested in our intentions or in anybody else, just as most Christians, Muslims, Sikhs, Catholics, etc, are only interested in their own. While we separate ourselves into groups, dividing ourselves from others with rules, regulations, rituals, procedures and conditions, we will never solve our problems.
No matter what we in the Western World Civilisation of Commerce have been promised by our politicians, religious leaders, scientists, educators, philosophers, etc, for the past two hundred years, all we have seen is ever-increasing destruction of men, women and children and the earth. None of the so-called experts and leaders we have been taught to rely on are coming up with a solution and none of them are taking full-responsibility for the fact that they can't handle the problem. All religious books talk about end times full of destruction and suffering but why do we have to follow this program when there is an alternative to hatred, mayhem and death? Why are our leaders following the program of destruction and death rather than exploring the alternatives? It seems that any mainstream politician, priest or academic are only interested in supporting the RULES OF THE DIVIDE, that maintain the haves and the have nots. For 200+ years, 99% of the world population have been so trained to pass on their responsibility for themselves, others and the earth, that the 1% of the population that make up the leaders of the rest of us are making all the decisions leading to the destruction of all of us and the earth. Let's not forget the education system that brainwashes the 99% of the population that we are free and have equal rights while, in fact, we are feathering the nests of those at the top.
At the root of all our problems is self-centredness, an unwillingness nurtured by the Establishment that keeps us concerned only with our own needs rather than the needs of others around us and the Earth. Instead of creating and releasing acts of love for those around us as gifts to benefit them and the earth, we take, take and take, until there is nothing left. The whole point of the Love for Life website is to show people the root of all our problems and to share the remedy. The extensive research library is there to attract browsers and to provide access to information not available through mainstream channels. If the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies can, after careful examination of our work, prove that anything we are saying is wrong, we will be happy to accept their proof. If they cannot, and they are still insistent on closing the website down, they will be showing themselves to be traitors to MAN because they are not interested in pursuing any avenue that can end the suffering in the world.
All religions, corporations and organisations that support and maintain the Western World Civilisation of Commerce are part of the problem because our civilisation is a world of haves and have nots, racism, violence, hatred, poverty, sickness, discrimination, abuse, starvation, homelessness, corruption, collusion, vindictiveness, social unrest, arrogance, ignorance, fear, war and chaos. While we support civilisation, we support death and destruction because ALL civilisations that have ever existed are apocalyptic by design.
If we truly want peace on earth and freedom for all, we have to let go of all that which keeps us divided, and come together as MAN, conscious living co-creators of creation. The Love For Life website offers a remedy to the problems we all face in the form of DO NO HARM COMMUNITIES: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3641 For more details see here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6511 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 - We also highly recommend that everyone read the brilliant Russian books called The Ringing Cedars: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1125 - The Love For Life homepage/front-page also provides lots of inspiring remedy based information: http://loveforlife.com.au - If you want to be kept up to date with our work please register to the Love For Life mailing list here: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/09/05/14/campaign-mailing-list We usually send two postings per month. Presently there are over 5200 registrations reaching over 500,000 readers globally. The website now receives over 7 million strikes per month with January 2010 reaching almost 7.2 million strikes.
Conscious Love Always
Arthur and Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
17th June 2009
Comments
Stimulus payments 'could go to dead people'
Folks, just for laughs....and they forgot the intestate (has no will) Strawman, he's eligible (illegible?) too you know.
Stimulus payments 'could go to dead people'
Posted Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:18pm AEDT
Updated Thu Mar 12, 2009 3:54pm AEDT
Iain Evans
Iain Evans: stimulus payments available after death (ABC News
* Audio: Liberal MP Iain Evans tells Chris McLoughlin about finding dead people can get stimulus payments. (ABC News)
http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/news/audio/audio/200903/20090312-sa-evans.mp...
A South Australian Liberal MP says dead people will be eligible for payments from the Federal Government's economic stimulus package.
Iain Evans says he has been contacted by an accounting business confirming that deceased estates will be paid the bonus.
The Australian Tax Office website says that if all eligibility criteria are met payments will be made to the deceased person's estate.
Mr Evans says it is a glaring flaw in the stimulus package.
"Estates normally have about three years to wind up so certainly there will be deceased estates, in other words dead people, receiving the $900 stimulus package," he said.
He says it shows the stimulus plan was rushed and poorly thought out.
"Well there's great news for dead people, Kevin Rudd's going to give them $900 as part of the economic stimulus package," he said.
"I guess the question to Kevin Rudd is very simple.
"What does he expect dead people to spend money on to stimulate the economy?"
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Mercenary Cops - Truth Movement Australia Website Taken Down
From here: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/04/21/cannot-hand-back-australian-t... and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/04/21/cannot-hand-back-australian-t...
Relinquishing TFN
Wednesday 9th June 2010 - 3:49pm
Hi,
Could you please explain to me what this voluminous reply has to do with the topic supposedly discussed here, to wit the relinquishing of the TFN?
Furthermore, the kind of verbal venom that taints the entire exchange puts me off!
My first ever post on the "loveforlife" website was intended to answer a question in a manner both polite and, hopefully, helpful.
I have no time for this nonsense! I'll withdraw from this discussion for good and I doubt very much that I will ever bother again with your website.
Cheers
Bernard: WeckMann
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9th June 2010 11.19pm
Hi Bernard
This is Arthur Cristian here. It was of my own instigation to post this correspondence here to show others how representatives of the PTB are increasing the bashing's/violence upon innocent men & women, particularly pregnant women. There are many freedom-truthers being targeted now. We are being saturated by letters, phone calls & emails from victims telling us their stories (many want their stories to be kept private for now). Some are dealing with TFN, others with speed fines, others with credit card debts, others with mortgages, others with courts, others with DOCS, others with sex crimes & pedophile gangs etc, others with the Queen, Gov Gen, etc, to do with Claim Of Rights/Life etc.....
We have a duty of care to point this out to anyone who visits the Love For Life website. The posting above shows how divided & ruled the freedom-truth movement really is. It shows how nasty some supposed freedom-truthers can be..... If we do not post this information around the Love For Life website as we have done here, we will be seen to be irresponsible and misleading innocent, naive & gullible men & women searching for cures to remedy their woes and help make their freedom dreams come true.
All the best
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
Here is another recent posting.................................
This is what we posted last night on FB and elsewhere, also please check out the links provided:
I think the term "mercenary cops" hits the nail on the head.
It seems the powers that be have created small operational pockets of thugs (like mafia gangs) in different regions to perform these dirty deeds. Based on suitability and tests, etc, these thugs are invited in and initiated into the satanic/masonic orders they now owe allegiance to. They feel bonded to the bigger global order/agenda of their masters. They are under oath and secrecy, they feel privileged, feel protected and they know that no matter what harm/chaos they cause to the community, the order will protect them because the order controls the judges, police department, police station, police commissioners, politicians, press, governors, etc, etc. These thugs will do anything for their order....
The PTB know that these incidents, while getting no mainstream coverage, spread like wildfire through alternative freedom/truth networks. The message??? We are everywhere and everywhere and we are coming to get you if you do not comply. You cannot escape us and our big brother surveillance, police state, etc, etc. Freedom truthers, etc, are targeted because the PTB know we will spread the news. They know who regularly chats and who doesn't so its obvious who they target.
The message is not true, of course, as these incidents are not happening daily or to everyone stopped by the police. If this was the case, it would hit the mainstream and there would be an uprising against such blatant brutality by all of the community.
It also takes a certain type of man or woman to be willing to bash up unarmed, peaceful men and women, especially pregnant women. Most police men and women are not thugs and do have consciences that would prevent them behaving in this manner.
We guess there are only a few pockets of these thugs operating in each city and just one or two men (possibly women) in satellite/rural towns and they thin out as the population thins out. There is probably one thug to every 500 cops ... something like this.
The thugs (soldiers) will be monitored and controlled from a central command point of generals, coordinating all facets of the "attack" on us, including child snatches by DOCS, financial raids, etc. Remember - they are at war with us even if we have no wish to be at war with them! In the end after all is said and done it's all just propaganda, espionage, spies, surveillance, reconnaissance, counter-terrorism, infiltration, psychology, etc, etc.... all attributes of WAR.
None of this happens by chance; it is all organised from the very top, at international level, down to the local hubs giving the orders to those that do the dirty work. Push forward, push back, hold off, go there, do this, find that, etc, etc.... GRADUALISM
It's not hard to give the impression that a bashing like the one Stone got or the NZ family received can happen anywhere at anytime by any police man/woman.
Perhaps we should be keeping a record of all these incidences in one place that we could then send off to Police Commissioners, Heads of Police regions, etc, asking for an explanation. Might get some of those police men and women with consciences thinking about what they are part of.
Maybe its time to do what they do, document enough evidence and target a specific region of police stations and make sure we reach all their police men and women.... ask them... do you support this???, condone this???, are you aware of this??? Make sure its all recorded.. maybe give out a small booklet/DVD with all the solid evidence to them,.... then target lawyers/prosecutors/courts etc...
Make sure the local press is aware of these actions including the politicians. If we do this it has to be a concerted effort by many and if harm comes to one WE ALL GET INVOLVED. WE ALL TURN UP AT THE POLICE STATION WHERE OUR BROTHERS/SISTERS OF LIFE ARE HELD....
"COMMUNITY IMMUNITY"
IMAGINE 1000 OF US TURNING UP AND SURROUNDING A POLICE STATION???? or wherever/whatever.
Let's put the pressure back on their soldiers. In each region we will need to have a reasonable size group working together to do this. We can all do this peacefully, with love for the soldiers and show we respect what they do as a police man/woman and are valued BUT make sure we have clearly defined the line that must never be crossed where harm is done upon those who have never broken the peace or caused a crime or injured anyone, etc...
Let's become organised hubs, establish extensive interconnected support networks... there are hundreds of thousands of victims, in fact millions, at the hands of child support agencies, paedophile gangs, police, banksters, lawyers, judges, etc, etc.
Let's create the reason that brings everyone together to support each other rout out all the mobsters from each region. Let's do what they (PTB) do and be ORGANISED. If we don't do something like this, who is going to come along and fix it?
"COMMUNITY IMMUNITY"
"COMMUNITY IMMUNITY"
"COMMUNITY IMMUNITY"
I don't know anyone who is truly happy and I am noticing that more and more people are getting more and more down.
If we don't all come together as communities so, things will only get worse and worse.
"COMMUNITY IMMUNITY" (love for our brothers/sisters of LIFE) is the remedy to fix this problem.
Instead of each of us being a thread that has frayed from the fabric of community, we need to weave our lives back together again.
Lets not expend all our energy in forums, etc, let's use all our energy doing something about it. There are a 1001 distractions the PTB provide for us to vent our emotions/feelings to ensure that we never get together and actually do something about the situation. We cannot do this as individuals. The only way to stand up to the PTB is together.
Life is a team effort as is truth, freedom, peace, prosperity, doing no harm and community immunity.
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Jerry & Joe Kane - Father & Son Killed In West Memphis By Police For Protecting Their Property - Media Twists Abound: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/05/26/jerry-joe-kane-father-son-kil...
Brutalised - How New Zealand Police Treat The Peaceful - Even If No One Is Harmed & There Are No Injured Parties You Get Bashed: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/06/07/brutalised-how-new-zealand-po...
Video: New Zealand Police Stealing Wrong Child Away From Peaceful Parents! - 8 Minutes 29 Seconds : http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/06/07/video-new-zealand-police-stea...
The Sick Puppy - The Kidnap Of Fiona Cristian: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6375
Please post these articles on as many other walls as possible.
Also, can any of you please post your full stories (or others) of brutality in the comments section here: http://loveforlife.com.au/comment/reply/7329#comment-form - I can then turn them into articles. Please send links to videos or photos as well or email article/story/video link/photos etc to action @ loveforlife.com.au Please put in header "MERCENARY COPS" all in upper case so I can quickly pick them out amongst the 500/600 emails I receive daily.
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6th June 2010
.............................. @hotmail.com wrote:
J M sent a message using the contact form at http://loveforlife.com.au/contact.
Hi,
I was just wondering about the --truth movement au-- forums-- ( http://truthmovementaustralia.com.au ) I have not been able to access them for weeks now and did also get a message that they had been stopped till further notice when I have tried to access and also most of the time I get a 404 error. I was wondering if there has been a problem with accessing the site or is it me?
Thanks
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6th June 2010
Hi J M
Adam Davis took it ( http://truthmovementaustralia.com.au ) down because of this:
Jerry & Joe Kane - Father & Son Killed In West Memphis By Police For Protecting Their Property - Media Twists Abound
http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/05/26/jerry-joe-kane-father-son-kil...
Message from Adam Davis to us is below.
See other posts like these one: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/05/27/adelaide-doomsday-cult-media-... and http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/05/21/we-will-lead-every-revolution...
All the best
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
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27th May 2010 3:02 PM
Adam Davis sent a message using the contact form at http://loveforlife.com.au/contact.
Hi Arthur,
With the recent assassination of redemption members in the US I am doing my best to step away from anyone who is using this information. Because of this I would like to kindly ask that you remove my interview with Thomas Anderson from your website.
I got involved in the straw man research when I was still new to things, and although I completely agree with the right of every man to be free, I have to think about my family now, and am backing away from this kind of material completely. I hope you respect and understand my reasoning.
You are a good person and I sincerely wish you the best on your journey towards the truth.
regards,
Adam Davis
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Below is the post Bernard complained about............................
Freeman Of Australia Forum Discussion Regarding Freedom Remedy
Monday 31st May 2010 3:42pm
Posted by Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/04/21/cannot-hand-back-australian-t...
This is what we posted to the Freeman Of Australia Forum and the discussion that unfolded. Firstly, please read the posting to do with Jerry & Joe Kane http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7322 before continuing.
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
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http://freemenofaustralia.ning.com/forum/topics/jerry-joe-kane-father-so...
Friday 27th May 2010 at 8:54pm
Jerry & Joe Kane - Father & Son Killed In West Memphis
By Police For Protecting Their Property
Media Twists Abound
Jerry Kane and his beautiful son Joe (age 16) were shot to death during an alleged traffic stop by law enforcement on Thursday, May 20th, 2010. Jerry, Joe and their two dogs, while on their way back to their home in Florida have been made out to be everything from drug smugglers to Hispanics, which we all know is typical of the media spinners. The police said it was a traffic stop. But their van had more bullet holes in it than Bonnie and Clyde's.
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7322
This is only the beginning. Since 2007 we have been warning everyone we can reach (those who are using their brains) that the free man/sovereignty/commercial redemption/honour-dishonour, etc, route in the long run will not work, that it will be revealed as a complete waste of life-force-energy unless we apply the ONLY remedy that will work.... "COMMUNITY IMMUNITY" (KINDOMS - DO NO HARM COMMUNITIES), but to create that means completely overcoming self-centeredness. We have written heaps about this since 2005.
We also received two phone calls today explaining that Jerry & Joe Kane were assassinated, that it was cold-blooded, that witnesses are frightened for their lives.
Adam Davis (TMA http://truthmovementaustralia.com.au ) also contacted us today asking us to take down the interviews he did with Thomas Anderson. He is concerned for his family and future! He is pulling out of the freeman/sovereignty movement.
We also received a phone call today from a stranger (who knew his stuff - possibly Federal police or other intel) warning us that our lives are now on the line, that plans are a-foot to kill us too. This is the second call we have received from this stranger, the 1st call was about the pending raid raid on Agape Ministry Of God. This call is on top of the 4 death threats we have already received since November 2009. We had one call traced back to the NSW Head Office of Police in Surry Hill, Sydney.
As we indicated quite a few times since 2005, the PTB are pushing their plans forward by 3 to 4 years.
Copy/Paste from a recent comment..........
"Once the rule of law sedatives and prescripted medications (claim of right/life) wear thin the PTB are left with one final solution to control the sheeple..... FORCE as in genocide. The scam has now come full-circle. The final solution is all they have left. After invading all the supposed new lands across the earth, genocide/eugenics was used to clear the way (hundreds/thousands of millions murdered) before they introduced their rule-of-law sedatives and other prescripted medications to keep dumb and stupid subjects as their slaves. Are the PTB really going to allow millions/billions of claim-of-rights to burst through the gates of all their enclosures? Do you really think they will gracefully stand aside?
A base Molotov cocktail of poisons, chemicals and toxins has been placed in the bodies of most of us and with the addition of electronic/magnetic/digital frequencies/pulses, earth-wide genocide is just around the corner with a flick of a switch. The PTB planned for this long ago. (Philadelphia experiment, Haarp, Reagan Star-War Laser Satellites, Chemtrails, Digital Towers, etc).
The earthly culling will be blamed on others..i.e, alien invasion, ufo attacks, nations, collateral damage, etc,. While culling back to roughly 500 million people, the PTB will be introducing, via their "Good Guys", their updated Anti-Life system, again loaded with sedatives and prescripted medications for their subjects. Don't forget the PTB still control all aspects of the present anti-life system. The "Good Guys" include many PTB planted heroes and a self-fulfilling prophecy saviour/messiah/prophet/pahana/bahana/meitreya/metraya, etc.
There is a remedy but it ain't found in the PTB anti-life system."
"We Will Lead Every Revolution Against Us"
So Say The Hooded Ones Of Black-Magic
by Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
22nd May 2010
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7317
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We also received a text message today that a large flotilla of war ships with aircraft and troops are already heading or will be shortly heading to the Middle East. Message says to stock up food for at least one month because international (and inevitably domestic) transport is going to be effected.
The PTB needs to create a major issue now, one that will erupt into a series of chaotic waves leading to military law/curfews/police state/economic collapse, etc, etc, and use this heavy fog of chaos to go about their business, with little interruption and exposure, rounding up everyone they have listed. We warmed everyone back in 2007/2008 that the internet is a great intelligence gathering tool, a measuring stick, a thermometer for assessing how fast the PTB need to accelerate their plans and what plans or back-up plans they implement. Remember, this is a full-on waged war against all of us
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Received news via mobile phone about this pending Agape Ministry Of God media event around 4 months ago from an insider, possibly from within Federal Police. We are not sure where he was from but he knew his stuff, had a very good grip on this Agape Ministry Of God matter (photos and many links provided below) and had a finger on the pulse of the goings on behind the scenes of police, government and other agencies. He also read all the Ringing Cedars books a few times over, was fully aware about the dream of Kindom and could tell in his voice that this MAN was troubled by a conscience that was awakening real fast. It seems to be the only reason why he rang us. He had children and deeply loved nature.
We realised 4 months ago the Agape Ministry Of God was going to be a PTB white washing event (there are others in the pipeline too), to establish precedence causing changes in law and public perception about people coming together to co-create communities. This PTB media event is along similar lines to 9/11 and the resulting Patriot Act. We have written about such whitewashing/white-anting scenarios coming down the line orchestrated by the PTB since 2007. This Agape Ministry Of God media event tells us all very clearly that "community immunity" is the PTB greatest fear of all and is what we must co-create OUT IN THE OPEN for all to see as a gift of life. We briefly touched on the Ten Steps of Kindom originally back in 2007: The Ten Steps Of Kindom by Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life 23rd October 2008: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5788 We'll shortly revisit & upgrade this general discussion into a polished article.
There is not a week goes past where phone calls from plants are received acting as interested parties in the dream for Kindom and its so easy to suss them out within 30 seconds or so of answering their calls. We feel them, feel their intent. Some ring regularly while others only ring once. It's obvious they record the chats hoping to catch us out and use these recordings against us one day. The truth keeps being brought up in a variety of ways which stuffs up their recordings. It is also very important that we keep posting everything we say and do out in the open for all to see. The dream of Kindom we created taps into the energy of the PTB and all their lackeys. Everytime they do anything against the Cristian Family, others, including community immunity/Kindoms/Do No Harm Communities, etc, there energy feeds the Kindom dream 100 fold. No matter what they do their actions exposes them out in the open for all to see, evokes the conscience in many for the first time, both white collar lackeys and average Joe's & Mary's, supports the dream of Kindom, inspires co-creation of Kindom for the first time in the hearts of many and causes many of their white collar lackeys to begin the planning steps of fleeing the anti-life system they are caught up in. More on this shortly in another article.
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Reply by Peter Lalor on May 28, 2010 at 8:33am
Don't suppose Arthur ever considered reducing his consumption of pot ?? The world looks a bit different when not viewed through a haze of marijuana. Do you really think that if the PTB want to get you, being ensconsed in nirvana a mere couple of hours away from their enlaves will constitute a significant barrier ??
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Reply by Arthur & Fiona Cristian on May 28, 2010 at 9:26am
The slander indicates no presence of MAN. MAN feels with heart to use brain. A short-circuit between heart and brain causes distortion (illusions, delusions, fantasies) leading to slander, ridicule, abuse & character assassination. Being apart from the hearts and brains embodied amongst many brothers and sisters of MAN is the cancer that spreads. Thank you for offering this dis-ease but this offer has been declined. You are most welcome to contact the living upon your return. We will be at the gate of the living-world waiting to greet you with open arms.
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Reply by GAz on May 28, 2010 at 10:23am
Has there been made public yet, any indication that the first shooting involved th kanes?
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Reply by Arthur & Fiona Cristian on May 28, 2010 at 10:51am
Hi Gaz
No, If we receive any further news we will post the info in the Love For Life link provided. It's been more than 7 days since the shooting. It's obvious if the PTB had solid evidence to back up their position/agenda the recordings would have been released within hours or at worst with 1 day of the shooting and they would have flogged this evidence to death across the USA and elsewhere.
Also, don't forget to study this documentation (posted below) where we exhausted the administrative process and then used their system of statute law/contract law (the law understood & applied by the force of law) and have exhausted this lawful/legal process as well just to create a cure. Either way, the evidence clearly reveals the PTB will break their own laws, the very laws they force everyone else to abide by, to keep us in our place. They even kidnapped the body Fiona is creating with our youngest daughter, Xanthe, just turned 2 sitting in the back seat exposed to all the horror unfolding.
All the best
Arthur
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For Documentation Of Harm Done By The Powers-That-Be And Their Representatives,
Evidence Revealing How Victims Did Not Break The Peace, Caused No Crime or Harm, There Were No Injured Parties. Documenting Incontrovertible Evidence Demonstrating How The Powers That Be (PTB) And Their Lackeys Will Break All The Laws They Are Supposed To Uphold. They Will Kidnap, Intimidate, Terrorise, Rape, Pillage, Plunder And Lie And Take Responsibility For None Of It. All Part Of Their Tactics Of Using Fear And Trauma To Keep Us In Our Place. Relatives Of Those Under Their Radar Are Also Not Safe From Attack And Intimidation. All Starting From A $25 Fine For Not Voting And A $65 Fine For Not Changing A Dog Registration. We Do Not Have Freedom And Can Only Appear To Have Freedom If We Comply. Regardless How Small The Matter The PTB Throw Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars Away To Enforce Their Will.... Go Here:
Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office - Part One to Part Nine - From 17th October 2008 And Still Continuing:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6319 or
Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office
Part One: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5742 - From 17th October 2008
Part Two: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6135 - From 18th December 2008
Part Three: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6295 - From 9th January 2009
Part Four: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6296 - From 14th January 2009
Part Five: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6375 - The Sick Puppy - From 20th February 2009
Part Six: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6390 - Police Officers, Sheriff’s Officers, Tow Truck Driver and State Debt Recovery Office Blatantly Ignore the Law To Rape, Pillage and Plunder The Private Property Of Fiona Cristian - From 11th March 2009
Part Seven: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6445 - Affidavit Of Truth - Letter To The Queen + Australia: Fascism is Corporatism - From 30th March 2009
Part Eight: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6652 - The Pirates Auction And The Ghost Of VSL386 - From 4th April 2009
Part Nine: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7073 - Arthur Cristian's Letter To Pru Goward MP - From 15th December 2009
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Reply by Janis Ferguson on May 28, 2010 at 11:10am
I RECKON IF YOU CHALLENGE EM THEY BITE....MAYBE THE BEST THING IS NOT TO AND JUST IGNORE THEM, DONT OPEN MAIL, OR TRY TO GET INTO COURT....WHERE THE CORRUPTION IS RIOT...... LOOK HOW FAR THE GOVERNMENT WENT WITH MARTIN BRYANT......... ANYTHING TO ACHIEVE THEIR GOAL AND A COUNTRY OF SHEEPLE WHO BELIEVE THE CRAP ON TV..... HOW MANY KNOW THAT THE LIKES OF PACKER MADE THEIR MONEY ON THE MISERY OF MANY WITH BRINGING HARD DRUGS INTO THE COUNTRY.....I GUESS PUTTING THE APPLIANCES INTO AMBULANCES WAS FIRSTLY FOR HIMSELF THEN AN EFFORT TO MAKE HIMSELF LOOK GOOD.... AAAAHHHHHHH THE GOV ARE GOOD AT CONDONING THIS SORT OF BEHAVIOR BECAUSE THEY ALL PLAY A PART IN TREASON.....WHAT ELSE WOULD ONE EXPECT FROM PIRATES.....
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Reply by Peter Lalor on May 28, 2010 at 1:26pm
There is a VAST difference between exercising care not to arouse the ire of the PTB and taking the totally defeatist attitude demonstrated by Arthur Cristian. The clown clearly lives in la-la land, constantly bitching about the system whilst happily accepting whatever handouts he can glean, funded I might add by those of us who actually work for a living. Since we've never been informed about any productive endeavour on the part of Arthur we can only assume he's still happily accepting the largesse of Centrelink. I don't think its necessary to say much about the 'MP3 Studio' other than that the income generated would be highly unlikely to affect the Centrelink handouts. A reasonable person would assume someone claiming freeman status would take all possible steps to earn funds (whether fictional or otherwise) necessary to support ones wife & offspring. To my way of thinking, the dole & parenting allowance don't quite rate as 'productive'.
I notice that this mornings rant by Arthur describes most if not all the topics considered by most as part and parcel of freeman philosophy, however there doesn't appear to be any concerted move to remove references to these subjects from the loveforlife website. Surely someone who has a website full of supposedly relevant information and who has just had a change of heart as to the legitimacy of the stuff he promotes would be frantically removing any objectionable material in order to maintain honor, or is the situation that of Google hits being more important than honor ?? Note that it may well be that at least some & possibly all the sacred cows need to be put out to pasture, however claiming on one hand that its a load of crap whilst maintaining a website full of the so called crap doesn't exactly do a lot for the credibility of the site.
Its hard to imagine the Cristians ever being a target of the PTB let alone being warned of such by a federal oinker or whatever. There are infinitely jucier targets out there, folk like Mark McMurtrie who actually do stuff that makes a difference. Even Pytellec would be far higher on the hit list although in his case the PTB are probably the least of his problems.
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Reply by Janis Ferguson on May 28, 2010 at 2:06pm
well said pL .......
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Reply by Arthur & Fiona Cristian on May 28, 2010 at 2:57pm
Armed with slander upon slander upon slander is this present behaviour. Making so many claims without backing them up with evidence. Grabbing whatever meanings can be dredged up from the morass of your harm to place the harm over the living so that the truth of the living can be completely ignored/blocked out. The sun shines but some prefer to close the windows & blinds and draw the curtains and remain in their righteous darkness of SELF-CENTEREDNESS. Creating a mould that others must conform to or be written off if they don't comply. Is this not what the PTB do? Bickering and backstabbing is part of the divide and rule the PTB love so much.
Who do you represent?
You know almost nothing about us or our circumstances.
Is it possible to communicate without harm entwined? Is it possible to co-create with others without harm? How do we create a world of no harm while participating in harm.
We live for (our dream) a world without harm.
What about you?
What are you offering?
Where is the good will?
Also, unless you can prove otherwise, we have never lived with you, have never worked with you, have had no dealings with you, have never harmed you (ripped you off, back-stabbed you, used you, etc,, etc) or your family/loved ones, and yet as a stranger you come to us as if we have injured you!. If we have not harmed you why are you acting injured?
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Reply by Janis Ferguson on May 28, 2010 at 3:10pm
There is no slander in fact, and there is a lot of verbal diarrhoea , is it not written...ye know them by their works?
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Reply by Peter Lalor on May 28, 2010 at 3:50pm
EXACTLY, some folk are preceded by their reputation. Now what was it Comrade McMurtrie had to say on the subject ??
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Reply by Arthur & Fiona Cristian on May 28, 2010 at 3:53pm
Hi Janis
We are all renters of "The Crowns" intellectual property (their copyright - right-of-copy) that encompasses every aspect of their (PTB) civilisation of commerce (the fairytale). We are all severely compromised and as innocent children, we were not provided with idiot-friendly full disclosure, which clearly explained to each of us that by entering into their education system (includes having fairytales read to us repeatedly), we were going to create a fictitious character who will enter stage and be their slave for a lifetime performing as their fictitious character in their fairytale (the system). Without returning to nature how can we avoid dealing with the PTB while we continue performing for them??????? The PTB always have an interest (a claim) over their renters (serfs/commoners/goi/slaves/labourers/etc).
And then there is the reality of the extensive harm doing going on all around us all-the-time.
It appears there are well over 300,000 victims of sexual abuse, of all ages, just along the east coast of Australia including Melbourne & Geelong, and when you add on the other hundreds of thousands of victims at the hands of the PTB anti-life system... stolen children, broken families, fraud, loss of home, poisoned or murdered by chemicals. toxins, disease, and what about violence and robbery and brainwashing, and lets not forget the everyday stress from the constant pull of debts, mortgages, keeping a roof over ones head, food on the table and the dream of access to non toxic land, clean drinking water and fresh unpolluted air where the true freedom of life-sustainability can be experienced
The freedom to contemplate and rejoice in the beauty of life is freedom but most don't have such freedom, they are too distracted rejoicing the PTB anti-life system,
There are too many of our brothers and sisters of life out there suffering for us to turn our backs. Until we all actually start thinking about how we can serve (live for) others and be that walk-the-talk gift of life for the benefit of others every day, the PTB anti-life system, without resistance (no "community immunity"), will continue to expand until there is nothing of life remaining for any of us to have a life.
Life (nature) is a team effort as is truth, freedom, peace, prosperity and health.
While we remain in the system we are slaving-team-players for the PTB system. Who benefits? Hardly anyone anymore.
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Reply by Peter Lalor on May 28, 2010 at 4:31pm
Some of us could do without the type of 'team effort' which requires us to squander hard earned dollars (fictional or otherwise) to support bone lazy layabouts unwilling or incapable of supporting themselves or their dependants. Spreading unadulterated crap doesn't rate in my book as a worthwhile pursuit. I note that the prime recipients of the 'overcoming self-centeredness' philosophy are folk who claim to espouse freeman values but who are perfectly happy to sponge off their less work-phobic brethren.
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Reply by Arthur & Fiona Cristian on May 28, 2010 at 4:46pm
Hello Peter & Janis,
We take full responsibility for everything we say and do. We don't pass the buck to another or play with words in clever ways so they can be used as a shield to hide from others particularly after throwing lots of claims (spears) at them, especially claims that can't be backed up. If claims can't be backed up then an apology is in order otherwise it will be seem that you are troublemakers determined to create a controversy where there isn't one.
What has Mark McMurtrie got to do with the words you have both typed into this cyberspace discussion??? Are you both impersonating Mark McMurtrie?? or are you both authorised representatives of Mark McMurtries life-force & brain?? or are you implying that there is an us and them determination, a gang of us with Mark McMurtrie?? Can you please clarify exactly what are you implying by bringing in a 3rd party into this discussion who is not involved, not here
The last time we spoke with Mark McMurtrie was less than two weeks ago, it was left with Mark coming to visit us shortly so we can meet for the first time, to get to know each other and to discuss each others body of work.
Are you suggesting/implying that you have had discussions with Mark McMurtrie since we last spoke to him????
We have already explained in great detail why there is no long-term remedy/cure to be found in the freeman/honour-dishonour/commercial redemption/sovereignty movement and we are happy to debate this. But perhaps you should look at our work first so you really comprehend where we are coming from rather than making assumptions based on hearsay.
In this discussion we stand by everything we say word for word, we do so because we are accountable and can be counted on.
What about you????
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Reply by Arthur & Fiona Cristian on May 28, 2010 at 5:25pm
Hello Peter
Again you are making so many claims without any evidence to back these claims.
All men are equal are they not?
Are you implying by judgment that you are placed on to a higher standing than another MAN ??? or are you not a man but GOD (or a god) of a higher authority? If so, can you please bring forward proof of your claim
The PTB promote: All men are equal but some are more equal than others!!!
Who do you represent Peter?
Who is your master?
Also, do you have an "all seeing eye" to know all about us??
Are you practising black magic or sorcery or some kind of invisible esoteric or occultic witchcraft transportation to be all knowing.???
Where does all this knowledge you claim about us come from?????
Don't tell us its all made up or hearsay!!!!
Please bring forward the 1st party to back your claim that you are supporting us?
Please bring forward the substance of life that gives us life which you claim we sponge off. Note: It has to be something real, meaning it must have consciousness/life embodied in its form, and remember what is invisible offers nothing for the living.
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
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Reply by Janis Ferguson on May 28, 2010 at 6:49pm
I HAVE NEVER MENTIONED MARK MCMURTRIE TO YOU , SIMPLY BECAUSE I DO NOT BELIEVE IN CASTING PEARLS AMONG SWINE....
SOME TIME AGO I BLOCKED YOUR COMMENTS AND CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS NOT HAPPENING
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Reply by Debra: Bentley. on May 28, 2010 at 7:07pm
Spot on Peter - I DO know this man - he receives NO benefits from Centrelink, so has NO income to support himself or his family - his wife Fiona receives Centrelink to support herself & the children & has to support Arthur as well.
His wants everyone else to chip in for his 'Dream' (keep dreamin) of a Kindom (kingdom) where he can live without having to work for it - That is a Moocher to me - one only needs to read Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand to see where his moral code is.... Who is John Galt? so apt in this situation - & yes he puts his mouth (or his fingers on the keyboard) into gear without first engaging his brain (what there is of it) & claims he believes in 'DO NO HARM' yet I have heard it from others & been on the receiving end of it myself - hypocrite - LMFAO
A MAN needs to earn his own living & be productive if he wants to live - not bludge on others for handouts or depend on his wife to support him & take what is supposed to be to feed his children for himself.... Great intellect / principles / morals here I see.....
The only thing that appears to matter is how many HITS he gets on his website that counts as being 'somebody of importance' to feed his desperate ego... he sits at home all day at his computer - really should get out more & get a life... Any fool can talk on the phone to people or email them - big deal - talk is cheap, actions speak louder... Losing a Drivers Licence & challenging them over a car isn't a big deal in the big scheme of things..... Arthur still has his licence, but Fiona has lost hers ..... he says he NEEDS his to drive the children.... Freemen do NOT need a licence - I no longer have one or rego...
The information he posts is stuff mostly gleaned from others on the www & sent to him to make him appear as though he is 'connected' & somehow in the clique of those that do know..... plagarism to the extreme.... where is the mind? Who is John Galt? LOL
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Reply by Adam Michael Birkbeck on May 28, 2010 at 11:56pm
George Tran (who was raised in Australia but went to the USA in 1993), who was on Angela's talkshoe on the 20th, and who used info from her and Jerry, amongst others, to clear the debt on 4 properties (as he was notified on 24 May 2010), and put up an e-book about the process (his bank was an subsidiary) of Bank of America on his website www.freeandclearin90.com put a distressing message on his site today.
2 burly men appeared and banged on his door on the 26th - he did not answer. They came back and tried the front and back doors on the 27th and again he did not answer for the 15 minutes they were there. He now says he fears for his life, too and is 'freaking out' (to quote him). This happened after his 'victory' and after the announced on his site he was initiating a document preparation service to assist other people.
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Reply by Shakti on May 29, 2010 at 8:00am
Quite frankly, Peter, I find your attitude becoming rather monotonous, tedious and extremely unhelpful. You are being manipulative, you certainly do not offer any useful information, and you are beginning to sound like a fascist. Quite relevant to this thread, do you propose that we just shoot all these, supposed layabouts, who you claim to contribute nothing. Well I have to say that unless you have a degree in science, engineering, technical or have a trade, you do not have the potential to contribute anything either. The reality today is that most people contribute contribute nothing to the wellbeing of the whole, that is why we are in the mess that we are in. It is estimated that just 5 percent of the work then being done would satisfy our minimal needs for food, clothing, and shelter. Directly or indirectly, most work serves the unproductive purposes of commerce or social control (which is what you are advocating). 80% of people are salesmen, soldiers, managers, cops, stockbrokers, clergymen, bankers, lawyers, teachers, landlords, security guards, ad-men, and are all non productive. So very little effort is required to maintain our supposed lifestyle in this moment, despite its gross inefficiency.
So wake up to yourself and do something about your bad attitude before someone shoots you. You, like everyone else, has something very important to contribute to the good of everybody. If you think about it clearly, unless everybody's wellbeing is being adequately taken care of, everybody's security is compromised. So it is in your interest to care about others. You don't have to do everything, but if what is being done, is being done efficiently, then there is not much burden. The challenge is to get everybody to do their bit, and fascism does not work.
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Reply by Janis Ferguson on May 29, 2010 at 10:37am
Would you class that as a bad attitude? Well, I would totally disagree with your comments re PL ..... and obviously have no idea what you are raving about..... Not everyone has the ego some have on this site or any of the others for that matter, therefore have no need to exaggerate what in reality is no more than information taken from the efforts of others for their own self glorification, shadowed in the name of ....'team effort', nor do they need to brag about their efforts or input to others to feel acceptable ...... not many are able to take truth, or any form of constructive criticism, most often they cannot take it and pump up their ego by professing they know or have a good rapport with people when in actuality they do not. These types are more often a hindrance than a help. Some admire straight shooters, most just cant take unadulterated truth.....and that is more in line with why the world is the way it is today.
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Reply by Peter Lalor on May 29, 2010 at 10:44am
The very last thing we need is more false prophets, particularly those who promote concepts they don't comprehend & aren't prepared to put in the effort required to gain a proper understanding. Far too many self professed 'freemen' are only interested in issues that involve less than five minutes study & which promise a quick buck regardless of what underhanded activities are involved. Before you get up on your hind legs, consider the real motive of most if not all A4V attempts. Despite common belief that even a minor error in a contract immediately negates the contract, there is no truthb whatever in the idea. At most an error / lack of full disclosure / etc is grounds for a claim of unconsionable conduct with appropriate compensation, however the contract is still in force. Attempts to acquire assets without paying are nothing but fraud & false pretences. The only thing that can be said in favour of loveforlife is that unlike certain obvious profiteers there is no blatant attempt to extract money directly from followers. Arthur loves filling his totally fucked up site with all manner of material, including stuff he claims is unworkable, all in the hope it might get a few more google hits. Needless to say the honorable approach would be to host only material he believes is legitimate. His expectation that the world owes him a living is completely untenable and contrary to true freeman / sovereignity principles. Your contention that salespersons etc are non-productive is also nonsensical, if that were the case their employer would have no need of their services.
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Reply by Peter Lalor on May 29, 2010 at 11:27am
You gotta be joking !!!!! I most certainly do NOT accept any responsibility to support layabout fuckwits who sponge off those of us who put in an honest days work or who contribute significantly to the freeman movement. Running a tenth rate website focussed only on google hits is hardly 'productive' in any language. Clowns who spend their days stuffing around with inconsequential bullshit whilst expecting others to feed and house them are nothing less than parasites & as such they have no part in the freeman movement and definitely no right to claim sovereign status. What sort of freeman / sovereign requires his spouse to claim the dole to support not only her and their kids but his worthless hulk as well ??
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Reply by Arthur & Fiona Cristian 1 day ago
There are many slaves fighting to wear their manacles and
protesting vigorously whenever someone tries to loosen them.
Arthur Cristian
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Reply by Arthur & Fiona Cristian 1 day ago
As for Jerry & Joe Kane, here are a few more comments....
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That Jerry thing was pretty obvious... I mean look at the photos... where is the number plate they claim they used to identify them as the same two "men" that killed two police officers 45 minutes earlier with an AK47..??
And why is the car riddled with bullet holes, and the boy handcuffed face down on the ground when he was supposed to have been shot.
Why were they in a WalMart car park after supposedly shooting police officers 45 minutes earlier and not in hiding somewhere?
Why in the video does it look like their car was run over by a tank?
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I would not be surprised the two dead cops were killed by the powers that be (PTB). The two cops might have seen too much and the PTB had to get rid of them. The PTB have special task forces for such occasions to prevent cops having to kill their "mates", which they would baulk at. The PTB have been known to do this over the ages, often killing shiploads of men who might return to their homelands and spread the word about the massacres of men and women on the land that they had been forced to take part in. "Things Are Not What They Seem".
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We know of other murders here on Gondwana Land, we have the stories, but we have promised not to publish them until we are given the go ahead. It's going to get worse from here on end.
Then there is Edward Jay Robin Belanger (Minister Belanger), in Canada, he and friend are in the lockup since 8th/9th March 2010. He operated as a minister for his faith (his church). Since 2005 we have constantly communicated/debated points of view. We warned him that the PTB will do anything to protect their higher standing and that his religion, faith, paper work, words, etc, will not protect him. He thought we were arrogant etc.
Many freedom-truthers wellbeing (their lives) and their families are on the line now.
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From here: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/09/05/13/new-world-order-conversa... - 13th June 2009
Back in the early/mid 1980's a new media company started up in Sydney (in Alexandria/Waterloo/Rosebery ---- within 4 miles/6ks of the Sydney CBD), with plans to be another media force (Newspapers, magazines, tv, radio etc) challenging the Murdoch Press and the Packer Press who controlled almost all of Australia's media one way or another (and both are controlled by the Rothschilds - this is a fact). This new competitor set up in a massive industrial estate with many hundreds of staff, backed by vast amounts of fictional $$$$$. Within days of commencing operation the huge industrial estate building was raided by a very large gang of thugs one early evening mid-week and many of the new staff working there were ALL brutally and severely bashed, some with broken bones, etc, etc. The building was ransacked and then completely burnt to the ground. All the workers were tied, gagged and warned to keep their mouths shut or they and their families etc would ALL be killed etc etc. The only news to come out to this day was the building on fire. Nothing else was ever mentioned anywhere, no police involved, no politicians, no enquiries, just absolutely nothing. And yet many police, politicians, journalists etc knew what really happened and said/did nothing. A close friend who was involved deeply in politics and was also a media man and a known film director with all the right connections told me everything about this event. He said nothing as well and so the public were kept in the dark. This is just one example of many, in fact of many many thousands when you also consider Waco, Jones Town massacre. 9/11, Bali Bombings, Ruby Ridge massacre etc etc.
Today, we have many many thousands of Australians in Jail who sought freedom. All innocent, all having done no harm to man, earth or nature. In the eyes of the establishment all they did wrong was to stand up to the establishment system determined to have their true freedom. More than 100 hundred alternative communities around Australia have been raided and destroyed since the 1960's. Some were set up as cults, sects etc, others were set up with drugs and yet others were set up with kidnapping children or supposedly harbouring criminals etc etc. Yet again many others were infiltrated and destroyed from within. They even destroyed the spirit of Byron Bay. Now its known as not a safe place. In Australia alone we already have a 10,000 strong law enforcement operative in place to deal with break away communities etc. They have tasers, laser weapons, a range of chemical sprays amongst a vast array of other evil equipment for both attack and defence.
And then there is the Soviet holocaust of 60 million killed within the space of 15 years...(less than 80 years ago).... the Chinese Holocaust that killed 60 million Chinese less than 50 years ago...... can you truly comprehend the extent of murder carried out by the establishment behind the Soviets and the Chinese, the same bloodline establishment in control today, the same establishment behind all the major wars which caused billions and billions of innocent men, women and children to die over the last 300 years. The same establishment behind the Jewish holocaust of 250,000 (not 6 million - all bullshit), the same establishment behind the Cambodian holocaust, the Romanian Holocaust, the Nigerian Holocaust, The Rhodesian Holocaust, The Palestinian Holocaust, The American North/Central/South American Indian holocausts which killed over 1 billion men, women and children over the past 500 years, the Aboriginal Holocaust on Gondwanaland which killed over 40 million less than 300 years ago, The American Civil War Holocaust, etc.
The same establishment bloodlines behind HAARP, Chemtrails, Regan Star Wars Laser Satellites, ELF, Vaccinations, Mercury, MSG, Aspartame, Fluoride, Fast Food, Obesity, Food Additives, genetics, altering seeds, nutritional deficiencies, 100,000+ poisons/chemicals circulating and absorbing the planet and man, recycled sewage, poo and wees as drinking water, etc etc etc etc all preparing the way for the soon-to-be-global holocaust of men, women and children in the billions if we don't stop it. This is a Molotov cocktail triggered by highly explosive and brilliant intellects who are without consciousness embodied, leading the way towards a soon-to-be mass genocide, who together act like a racehorse who has already turned the final corner and is bolting down the finishing line as fast as possible.
ARE YOU PREPARED???
Do you know how to handle these psychopaths???
Do you have the remedy that will truly stop all these psychopaths???
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Please tell us how paperwork, administrative processes, etc, create a consciousness that brings peace for ALL of us, INCLUDING those of the establishment? How will these processes invoke a sense of love and conscience in the members of the PTB so that they too will want to create a world of peace for ALL? How effective is a piece of paper against a gun?
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
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Reply by Shakti 1 day ago
Peter and Janis, if you live in a house (bigger than a Sydney bedsitter) and drive a (fossil fuel) car, then you are already beyond your footprint, and thus not qualified to make any comment about others. The collapse is only a couple of years away.
By the way if you use a television, refrigerator, washing machine, computer, live in a house, drive a car, can walk down to the shop and buy food, etc. etc, then you get all of these absolutely free. Apart from the fact that you are embezzled debt notes to do it, at least half the population of the earth do not have access to these things even if they had the money to pay for it.
Peter, If you are concerned with others do then how about discovering utility, instead of slavery, which seems to be where you are at the moment. Why else would you be such a grump?
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Reply by Shakti 1 day ago
As for understanding, Peter, put up or shut up. I am open to discussion but not argument. If you claim to have understanding then you must have some answers, otherwise what good is it. This is very typically Australian, whinge and do nothing. I am actually very curious to know what you are actually doing for the freeman movement, apart from discrediting it. What is it exactly that you are working hard at that you are so protective of your "taxes"?
By the way, about the A4V, the banks in America are now getting audited, because they are steeling the A4V's, monetising them, and leaving the debtor in dishonour, when it could have been resolved. This doubles the debt. Who is the scumbag?
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Reply by Derek 1 day ago
Accept the things to which fate binds you, and love the people with whom fate brings you together, but do so with all your heart.
Because your own strength is unequal to the task, do not assume that it is beyond the powers of man; but if anything is within the powers and province of man, believe that it is within your own compass also. "
The only wealth which you will keep forever is the wealth you have given away.
Marcus Aurelius
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Reply by Peter Lalor 1 day ago
Go teach your grandmother to suck eggs, I happen to have one of the smallest carbon footprints of any flesh & blood entity in southern Queensland & it will be reduced even more within the next six months. Furthermore I couldn't give a rats whether or not any collapse occurs as I arranged my affairs years ago to minimize any effect on me. Janis is likewise in a far better position than most to weather any collapse, to the point where even the sky falling in wouldn't cause her any significant angst. As for contributions to the freeman movement, some of us are making far more real progress behind the scenes than will ever be published openly. There are very good reasons which I will not elaborate on at this point why certain intelligence is being kept under lock & key, the only point I'm willing to share is that violence is NOT on the agenda.
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Reply by Arthur & Fiona Cristian 1 day ago
There will never be found a remedy in the fiction. In fact it is impossible to find a remedy in fiction to cure all the woes of the living. Only what is living can cure the ailments of the living. The perfection of LIFE (creation) is in the purity and sincerity of every thought and feeling we think, feel and act on. Fiction is the distortion to this perfection. Every emotion, thought and action of fiction represents HARM (distortion/destruction) of LIFE, to LIFE. We (MAN) are LIFE. We are creating the LIFE of the MAN/WOMAN we are creating in the image of the thoughts and feelings we act on (put our energy/power of creation into) here and now.
The greatest gift given to MAN is the power of thought and the power to feel.
To destroy (harm) LIFE we (LIFE) MUST already be destroyed (harmed). It is impossible for a conscious MAN to do harm because he/she thinks and feels (creates) ONLY a LIFE of purity and sincerity (no harm).
Harm comes out of harm (distortion/destruction) while love comes out of love, just as peace comes out of peace and freedom comes out of freedom, just us honesty comes out of honesty and respect comes out of respect, just as being dead comes out of already being dead, just as he/she must first be unconscious to act unconsciously, just as the destroyed are destroying and the harmed are doing harm.
The world (LIFE) is in the image of the thoughts and feelings we act on here and now.
If we don't take full responsibility for the harm we are creating LIFE (your life, our life) is doomed.
WE ARE LIFE or WE ARE DEAD
It's a choice.
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Reply by Shakti 1 day ago
[Peter Lalor said: There are very good reasons which I will not elaborate on at this point why certain intelligence is being kept under lock & key, the only point I'm willing to share is that violence is NOT on the agenda.]
Unless you include everyone else in your little utopia, you will definitely have to carry a gun and build walls, so much for your "no violence strategy", they will all be banging the door down wanting to come in.
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Reply by Shakti 1 day ago
Arthur, my life is Playing Music.
A virtuoso knows how to love, and in that moment life is being celebrated.
They have stolen my sound and turned it into noise, I am reclaiming it.
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Reply by Peter Lalor 1 day ago
This thread is unlikely to go anywhere, so I'm bailing out of any future discussion. I'm not in the habit of attempting to communicate with those who are obviously spaced out on who knows what.
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Reply by Adam Michael Birkbeck 23 hours ago
I totally fail to see how people who claim to be freemen can be so manipulative (as Shakti said) and just plain insulting. Not to mention those who never actually share information but are willing enough to take it...or revile the people from whom they have wanted things.
But to falsely claim that they and another are in a better position to survive any sort of collapse beggars belief, when they are NOT in such a position and the other person they mention lives off Centrelink benefits and public housing.
Where is there any honour in this? My post was put up because I wanted to make people aware that there are decent people out there who are in trouble...and publicly making it known that George Tran thinks his life is in danger for beating the banks. This one about what happened to Jerry Kane and his son (who was found shot dead face down and handcuffed, but is supposed to have been on the attack?) is about a man who stood up for his and other people's rights and HELPED them. Unlike certain people here! Instead these posts have been used by some, as usual, to carp, whinge and run down people just to big-note themselves. And then run off because they cannot debate, just argue - badly. Shakti and Derek and Arthur & Fiona are right in what they've said, as far as I am concerned.
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Sent May 28th 2010
Dear Arthur and Fiona,
I just wanted to say, don't pay too much attention to those three who were giving you such grief on here today - Janis 'Peter' and Debra just love trying to tear down anyone who disagrees with them.
I've watched them refer to Mark McMurtrie as 'Comrade Mark' and Peter certainly acts as if he knows Mark, Max Igun and Thomas Anderson, but to my knowledge he doesn't: he and Janis met Mark once, and that was in a group meeting which they were an hour late for (they didn't factor in daylight savings) and he only got info from Mark when he promised to make an official website for him, which is the last I heard of one!
Peter backed out of a meeting with Max... and I went with Janis for company. That is the one time she met Max. None know Thomas Anderson except through his books and he would never answer emails. Janis is in contact with mark via facebook, but then so am I, and I do not profess to know him.
Janis put Peter onto me, Peter put Debra onto me (I was a paralegal and they wanted some docs redrafted), but I found them all rude, angry and judgemental. Especially when I wouldn't assist them.
I find it unfair that they turn on you for a difference of opinion considering how much material they have taken from your site. I think it unfair to accuse you of taking advantage of Centrelink benefits, when Janis is on benefits (a widow's pension despite NOT being a widow) and in public housing.
I think it is great that you will see Mark; the only reason I could see that he was brought into the thread was to big-note themselves. Please ignore the nastiness of what they say...they truly are not worth worrying about.
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Hello ................
Thanks for sharing some insights into your life experience and views of life with us. It's gratefully appreciated. We don't buy into other peoples non-productive anti-life "stuff". We don't feel grief. If anything we can sometimes feel sad for what has become of our brothers and sisters of life. We are focused on waking up whoever we can reach without invalidating them.
Since 2005, we have had many many hundreds of such dealings with promoters of anti-life, all of these discussions/comments are posted in the Love For Life website, warts and all. You will find in many of these anti Arthur & Fiona Cristian comments/discussions, hatred, abuse, ridicule, nastiness, arrogance, ignorance, character assassination, etc, etc. Some are really bad but we leave them all up (hundreds of these type of comments). Everyone is entitled to share their points of view. It's not our place to deny them their freedom to express who they are. Have a read of this article:
The Battle For Our Brains
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
4th April 2010
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7288
This article reveals how most think they are free but in truth are control freaks unwilling to accept others as they are... It's interesting to experience this on an almost daily/weekly basis. During those times when we are going through difficulties the truth will always bring us closer together while lies push us further and further apart. The common denominator is the information we think, feel and act on (put our energy/power of creation into). We are creating LIFE (our lives) in the images of our making/choosing. When we contemplate on the men and women who are anti-life (we are part of life) we can zoom in to the distorted information they are creating their lives out of.
We are not into looking good or holding up a false image. We are true promoters of freedom of speech and we support everyones point of view regardless if we agree with them or not. We only sensor very foul nasty language or edit comments with links to adds. And we encourage debate, to scrutinise and contemplate all information, particularly our work We tell everyone not to believe anything we say, to use your brain and go where the logic of truth takes you. We do everything within our means/powers to inspire others to use their brains. Unfortunately most are lazy these days, they prefer to reflect what others have told them to think and feel. One of our sayings....
Whoever controls how others think & feel & causes them to act on these feelings & thoughts is given all the power by those whose thoughts & feelings are controlled. Slaves willingly create a world in their masters image.
We know Thomas Anderson (who he really is). Over the past few years we have had many lengthy discussions with him (including phone calls) on many subjects. He sent an email last night which still needs our response. Between 2006 and 2007 Mark McMurtrie has had quite a few email discussions with us. None were pleasant from his end.
We posted this article http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7315 recently which caused Mark McMurtrie to contact us by mobile phone. Like so many others lost in the morass of "emotional stuff" he assumed too many things about us that were not true. Lets see if he will visit us shortly. He was supposed to already have been and gone by now.
Debra Bentley, forgets the many many many hours of discussion she had with us since 2008 including the 1/2 day visit same year. She told us so many times how grateful she was for the work we do for free without a fee (no conditions attached/no contracts etc) and the many many hours she has spent in the Love For Life website learning and learning so much new information on so many different subjects. Even up until a two weeks ago she regularly sent us links or documents/articles to post in the Love For Life website.
Here is our correspondence with Debra Bentley ...............................................................................................
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Deb May 12 at 10:59am
Request From Mark McMurtrie
He wishes that you would remove him from your website - could you do that please?
I don't know his reasons - but he put it on his Facebook status.
Regards Deb
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Debra Bentley posted something on your Facebook Wall and wrote:
"I sent you a PRIVATE MESSAGE Arthur - just a request to remove someone's stuff from your website & you chose to publicly display that (http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7315) & cause me embarrassment for that with your extremely long rant - once again, this is the second time you & I have had a disagreement over your actions, you have offended me & betrayed my trust - sorry Arthur, Fiona & family - but I will now remove you from my FB friends - goodbye."
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Thursday May 13th 2010 at 4:59 PM
Hi Debra
Firstly, finally since 2007 Mark McMurtrie (MM) rang this morning and we had a long chat and together we cleared the air of many issues. He apologised for all his misunderstandings about us and for all his dishonours towards us. We have tried many many times to get him to have a chat with us (with no back-door). For almost three years we have embedded MM Youtube & Google videos in the Love For Life website. From the beginning we wrote to him and informed him of these actions and not once has he complained/objected. All this time MM has been flooded with men & women contacting him via the MM videos embedded in the Love For Life website and via us forwarding on these messages to his private email address. Again, not once did MM complain about this. All this time we were under the impression that these videos were posted by him or by close supporters representing MM and his best interests. He now says that he has been trying (not sure for how long) to get these videos taken down from Youtube and Google. We have now agreed to remove them from the Love For Life website which will be done shortly.
We apologised to Mark for embedding these videos.
He is planning on visiting us in the near future.
As we can't see what is posted on MM Facebook wall we had no idea that you had directly posted a comment on his wall that you would contact us. When we posted your comment to us we removed the Facebook links to you and your full name. We just left Deb in thinking that no one would know who Deb was.
We now apologise for this Debra. There was never any intention to do you harm or to make public who you were.
If we are on the right path whenever issues arise they bring us closer together rather than letting them push us apart.
If we can't be there for each other when things/issues come up then we will never be able to heal LIFE together.
Again, we are sorry for this unintentional dishonour.
Love Arthur & Fiona Cristian
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In response to your letter
15th May 2010 10:31 PM
Dear Debra,
Please take this email as it is intended; it is our pure and sincere intention to explain to you where we are coming from and why others feel effected by what we say and do. Remember - open eyes equals an open, loving heart that feels the true intent of the writer. Our intentions towards you are nothing but love. Please re-read our original postings to see if you can see where we are coming from. We feel that there are a lot of good insights in what we have written below so we will be posting this (our reply only) to the website and face book but we will ensure that there are absolutely no references to you. We will also reply to Eilish, responding to her comments but re wording it so that she can comprehend the message.
We don't question your work, the huge sacrifices you have made and continue to make to help those who are suffering as a result of those behind the system we all struggle under. We don't question the dedication of Mark, which is why we have supported the work he does despite his chronic backstabbing verbal abuse of us (since 2007 we have received many hundreds of phone calls etc from those terribly upset with Mark, even from his own family, particularly his brother, but we don't back-stab Mark and we tell them all to confront Mark and sort it out directly with him - we know he has been chronically back-stabbing us by the numerous people, all independent/unrelated of/to each other, who have told us about this, and we have never met any of them ---- originally by emails since 2007 and now again over the phone yesterday, we shared this feedback news with Mark).
We support all those who are trying to make a difference despite the fact that we have differing views to nearly all of them. How, then, can you say that we attack everyone who does not agree with us? Arthur has spent hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of unpaid hours posting the work of all those who are trying to make a difference, even if we do not agree with their approach. This is why the Love For Life website has probably the widest range of information of any uncompromised freedom/truth website on the net. Do you know that traffic is heading towards 12 million strikes this month. Do you know how many THOUSANDS have written to us thanking us, often sobbing and in rejoice, for all the work we do, that has helped them. THE EVIDENCE IS INCONTROVERTIBLE, WE HAVE REACHED MANY MILLIONS OF MEN AND WOMEN WHO KNEW NOTHING ABOUT WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON UNTIL THEY CAME ACROSS THE LOVE FOR LIFE WEBSITE. Do you know that over 95% of those who have learnt about Mark's work came originally through the Love For Life website??? This goes for almost all others including Thomas Anderson, Claude Memma and Mark Pytellek, etc, etc, and we charge nothing for this work and seek no glory for this work or pats on the back.
In fact, we are the only ones out there with a website who offer that support to ALL those trying to make a difference - nearly everyone else seems too caught up in their negative-destructive emotions, biased beliefs, faiths and viewpoints to comprehend that, unless we ignore our differences and work together, we will never overcome the rules of the divide that keep us apart. The whole freedom truth movement is rife with bitching, gossiping, fighting and VICTIMISATION (POOR ME, SOB, SOB, SOB, BLAME, BLAME, BLAME, PASS-THE-BUCK, PASS-THE-BUCK). How are we ever going to create a world of peace out of that?
We talk to anyone who wishes to talk to us and, like you, spend many many hours every week unpaid talking and corresponding to those suffering under the system, in the many different ways (disease, health, fraud, debts, paedophilia, sexual abuse, intimidation, being followed, corrupt courts/lawyers etc, media slander, electronic surveillance & electro-magnetic attacks, etc, etc,), helping them as best we can with no conditions attached. For every one victim we have sent you add another three to five hundred for all the others we are helping elsewhere. We also confront anything we see as being untrue but we DO NOT attack the messengers of what we see as being untrue unless we have the incontrovertible evidence that they are an establishment plant. You should know this because we have spent a lot of time talking to you about our views on the freeman, sovereignty, etc, movement which you are now involved in but I do not attack the living-woman you are and I support you where I can.
We all need to be prepared to examine everything we think to be true (when it comes to our Love For Life work you call it a rant which says you dismiss this work, write it off, which means you don't want to connect with what we are learning and sharing etc, so you often miss out on the truths we share and this is apparent by the way you react as reflected in your words and actions - you pull further away from us rather than bonding with us), prepared to debate and learn from each other. We wrote what we wrote not as an attack on you or Mark but to show how we will never get anywhere unless we are prepared to give up our pride and fixations with belief systems and just do what needs to be done. Sometimes the pot needs stirring and good has certainly come out of the pot being stirred this time; Mark finally rang us, we talked and he now plans to visit us when he is in Sydney soon. Great - we can be allies for each other despite differing ideas and we can support each other. No more back-stabbing.
The truth is, we have not back-stabbed anyone, have done no harm to anyone and we are not the creators (the originators) of all this negative-destructive emotion which includes whatever emotions have come up for you Debra. All we have done is bring out into the open what was already being created and being spread by those party to this negative-destructive emotion.
As we explained - we cannot see Mark's Facebook wall so we did not know that you had publicly offered to contact us. We do not see how this has damaged you - you were only the messenger. Perhaps Mark will learn that he could have just contacted us himself in the first place and explained his reasons for wanting his videos removed, thus avoiding the whole kerfuffle.
None of us have anything to hide or be embarrassed about when we are working with purity and sincerity for the good of LIFE. All this Freeman stuff about "public" and "private" plays right into the hands of the Establishment. The more we are open, the more details that are out there about the outrages being perpetrated against our brothers and sisters of LIFE, the more people will no longer be able to ignore what is going on and will be pricked by their consciences into taking some responsibility for what is going on and becoming a team player for LIFE. The more we fuss about keeping things "private", the more we are diving into "SELF-CENTEREDNESS" (POOR ME, VICTIM-MENTALITY = POWERLESSNESS AND DESTRUCTION OF WHAT GOOD WAS BEING CREATED), the less people know and the more isolated people feel when they are under attack. Unless we join together as brothers and sisters of LIFE, the Establishment will keep laughing as we bicker amongst our SELVES (which are fictions). A victim mentality is only with the one who sees themselves as a victim, someone who does not take full responsibility for the emotions they create, vent at others and blame them for the emotions they have created within their own brains.
We know and can prove that the whole freeman/sovereignty movement (including the Originie man sovereignty) is rubbish and will never bring freedom and abundance for all. However, no one in the freeman movement seems willing to debate with us about this, even though debating (without back doors) is critical to us using our brains and learning from each other. Very few are really prepared to go where the truth takes them, letting go of whatever belief systems that are keeping them from the truth. People are so fixed on their belief systems that they create a version of reality out of that belief system and place it over all information they come across, thus shielding their lives from the often uncomfortable and painful truth. This shows just how weak most men and women are and all the backstabbing, anger, arrogance, etc, that people express comes out of this unwillingness to go wherever the truth leads. The truth doesn't pull people apart, it strengthens the bonds between men and women. Only lies keep us apart and unable or unwilling to co-create a marvellous world together.
The truth does not make us angry. People do not make us angry. We become angry because of the stories we attach to what we are reading, talking about, doing, etc. If you pick an apple from a tree, does it make you angry? Does the sun make you angry? How can a man or woman talking to a group of people "make" someone angry when, for the one man or woman feeling angry, there is another feeling happy, sad, joyful, etc?
What is there to be embarrassed about?? Who are we embarrassed too? If the great Man existed long ago, do you think he was embarrassed about his body being nailed on a cross, being lashed over and over again, being spat at, having rocks thrown at him, being scorned, ridiculed, abused, tortured and tormented? Being embarrassed is a reflection of how much we worry about what others think of us and how much we pass on the responsibility for others to create our lives for us. If we take full responsibility for the man or woman we are creating with good intention, we don't have to worry about what others think of us. There will always be those brothers and sisters who feel our hearts no matter if we are short, tall, fat, thin, rich, poor, etc.
The real fight for our freedom is not between us and the system; it is about all of us growing up, taking responsibility for our thoughts, feelings and actions and learning how to be together. This is what we are concentrating on and, yes, we cause upset but the upset is not ours and we do not set out with the intention to cause upset, only with the intention to leave no stone unturned in our efforts to bring freedom, joy and abundance for ALL.
All the me, me, me, I, I, I, my home, my beliefs, my philosophies, me sovereignty, my freeman status, my money, etc, is what is keeping us apart because it is all based on negative, destructive emotions which is why people get upset when we broach these topics! If people cannot stop clinging to their beliefs, we will all drown in the mire of fear, trauma, blame, passing-the-buck and taking no responsibility, so encouraged and loved by the PTB. This is the energy of the system (IS the system) and the energy behind Wicca, Galactic Federation, religion, etc, whatever belief we cling to. These beliefs are all attempts to compensate for what we feel to be going wrong but they never work because they are still based on self-centredness and fear over what will happen to us. While we cling to beliefs, we are not free; we are still serving the masters of the system.
The truth is that nearly all of us spend nearly all our waking time serving the system and, if we don't wake up, we will just find our lives under the same masters of just another version of the same system, still apart from each other and unable to co-create with each other without the system to keep order. Most of the talk about supporting one another and joining together, etc, is just lip-service. While men and women prefer to pull away from others rather than face the truth, we will never be free. As MAN together, the Establishment have no hold over us. While we cling to the system and all its constructs, we are theirs to manipulate and traumatise.
Anyone who goes into the courts, etc, with all this negative, destructive emotion hanging around will be steam rollered. This is the stuff they thrive off. This is what we have been trying to teach Eilish because, in her present state, she is a lamb to the slaughter. She thinks she needs to keep everything "private" but she does not realise that by making her case public, we are putting pressure on the PTB because there are more eyes watching them in a case where there is a lot of sympathy for her. If she really wants to push away from us and drown in the mire of her own making, she has the free choice to do so and we will respect that BUT, perhaps, further down the track, she will appreciate what we have done for her and that by pushing her to her discomfort zone, we are helping her rid her life of the demons that got her into this situation in the first place and will allow the PTB to crush her. All her beliefs, crafts and practices in Wicca, New Age, etc, are doing nothing to help her in this situation and neither is the freeman stuff. The PTB monitor anyone they want to so they certainly know exactly who she is involved in, what she is planning, etc.
The harrowing journey she is undergoing is harrowing of her making, not ours. We are just willing to expose what is there underneath which is exactly what the system will use against her. Her emotions are entwined in her belief systems like a mish, mash, the one going hand-in-hand with the other. We willingly take the punches on the chin she throws our way but the system will use this stuff against her which is why we are showing her that she can learn from this not to take her emotions into court with her. She needs to go into court as a free woman but to be a free woman, she has to be a gift. Unless she can wake up and confront her fears, coming to terms with the lies of her beliefs, she will never go in as a free woman because she will still be bound to her beliefs and to those around her who agree with her and encourage the continuation of beliefs that are harming her and heading her to experience real harm from the PTB.
The problem with surrounding our lives with those who agree with us is that we never get to deal with our repressed garbage because it is never confronted. This is why the world is so rigidly divided into groups of "like minded" people, i.e. those who won't ruffle our feathers by making us have a look at things from another direction and will allow us to remain in denial. Our unwillingness to look at our garbage is what has us comply and continue to suck on the nipples of the private corporations.
Remember, the real war is about this. Our garbage is what feeds the system and has us cling onto the system. When we give up our garbage, we will no longer need the system and we will have returned to the real world where we are all true brothers and sisters of LIFE and all gifts for LIFE. This comes with full responsibility and very few are ready to take on this responsibility. We feel responsible for our brothers and sisters of LIFE because we choose to, not as victims or martyrs. We have taken on Eilish because we choose to because we take on the responsibility to give her our very best. What happens to her happens to all of us so if we all take on the responsibility to make sure nothing happens to her, we are making sure nothing happens to the rest of us. We are all connected, aren't we? This is the difference between lip-service and doing something. We take on the responsibility to write this email to you rather than just saying, "Oh well, Debra's angry, what can we do?" and leaving it at that.
If we are not willing to really get into each others lives and say the tough stuff, even do the tough stuff, like a parent locking up their heroin addict child so they can cleanse their bodies, we will never be doing more than talking when we say we want to help each other. You know this Debra because you walk-the-talk when it comes to helping those you help.
The work we do is all about freeing men and women of the demons of SELF (the negative, destructive emotions) that have them hang onto the system and all the blame, fear, anger, self-centredness, etc, that comes up is not ours. If you really look at the emails, articles, responses, etc we put out there, you will be unable to find examples of us attacking the men and women we are corresponding with. We don't do it, despite the fact that we cop attacks from men and women when they can no longer answer us in debate but are too chicken to admit it because then they would be admitting that what they stood for was not of the truth. It is not about us being right, Debra. We are happy to be proven wrong and will go where the truth takes us which means that we will move on from whatever we currently feel to be the truth if someone shows us otherwise. This is how we have come so far in five years; we have explored, explored and explored and let go, let go and let go.
MAN is supposed to be a gift for LIFE. There is no gift in "my" or in the demons of SELF. There is no gift in "poor me" or "you make me angry, upset, embarrassed", etc. Gifts are love, generosity, kindness, confrontation, and anything else that comes out of the intention to love another, do no harm and give your very best to another. This is the world we dream for - we don't dream for the system. True freedom is when we have nothing to hide and nothing to protect. We are free to be the sun radiating into the lives of our brothers and sisters.
We are accused of being self-noting, of seeking attention for the website, etc, etc. This is not what we live for. All we want to do is to get the information out there so that people can use their brains and debate it. We have taken on the responsibility to co-create a world of freedom, joy and abundance for all and that is the sole reason why we do what we do.
We will also forward you an email we sent today as a response to a response we got following what we wrote in relation to MM. In it we explain how even the Originie Man sovereignty is based on lies, as well as showing just how much ground we have covered over the past few years. All the evidence is there for those who want to put the effort in and research this incontrovertible evidence.
All the best to our true sister of life.
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
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That email we forwarded to Debra Bentley is now this article:
"We Will Lead Every Revolution Against Us"
So Say The Hooded Ones Of Black-Magic
By Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
22nd May 2010
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7317
We will make some further comment in reply to Deborah etc maybe later today or tomorrow.
Also: check this out, particularly the bit about Joe Bryant... http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5
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Hi Arthur and Fiona,
Thank you for your reply, it has given me a little more insight but also confirmed for me that the negativity that these guys have aimed towards me isn't an isolated instance. I fell foul of Debra simply because I am both Jewish AND indigenous in parts of my heritage (and here I mean ethnic origins, not religious, because I don't subscribe to one form over any other), and I asked her to stop inundating my personal email address with paedophilia links (I was abused as a child which is dealt with, and I didn't feel the need to be re-educated to have rage about it, if you understand? I prefer to have let go), 'Origine' 'quantum syntax' and stuff about Hebrew never having vowels (and I KNOW archaic Hebrew and the different ancient vowel systems, and they just do not equate to English). I only asked her to stop, that was all, really. And I did ask Debra for concrete contributions to a redraft she had asked me to do of a document called a 'Commonwealth Public Official' which is purported to give a sovereign freeman immunity in Australian courts. I pointed out that similar documents have had holders charged with fraud... plus the discrepancy of claiming to be a freeman under Common Law, while claiming Federal protection as a vassal of Queen Elizabeth. I don't understand how you can claim the illegitimacy of 'government' and invoke the protection of a monarch you also claim as illegitimate? Asking me brought the house down on me from them. Debra told me I was not showing due gratitude to her... but she hadn't done anything for me, only asked things from me. Unfortunately she turned Janis against me and got Peter involved (he was of the opinion the CPO document I redrafted is worth 'millions')
As to the freeman movement... all I am interested in sovereignty for is to live my life under Common Law peaceably and help others do the same... not vengeance. I know that if you charge into court claiming common law jurisdiction, you have entered into controversy and, under a commercial court, you automatically place yourself into dishonour under ITS system. With UNICITRAL being adopted, there is a way using an International Exchange Bill to protect yourself but I cannot share this with some people because they are so wrapped up in asserting jurisdiction... and showing belligerency in court *which gets them steamrollered).
I am eclectic in my approach. As to Thomas Anderson, I know the name is fictional (it's the name of the character from The Matrix after all) I just don't know why some people don't see that when they claim knowledge.
Again - thank you both:-)
Cheers
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31st May 2010
Hi .............
Fantastic, and we have taken everything you say on board.
Note: This is not a lecture.. just sharing our view...
We repeat one of our comments posted in the forum: Please tell us how paperwork, administrative processes, etc, create a consciousness that brings peace for ALL of us, INCLUDING those of the establishment? How will these processes invoke a sense of love and conscience in the members of the PTB so that they too will want to create a world of peace for ALL? How effective is a piece of paper against a gun?
The difficulty for most (particularly Peter, Janis & Debra) is getting their brains around the fact that FICTION = HARM, and no matter what form/image of fiction we think and feel, when we put our energy/power of creation into (act on) fiction we are harming & destroying who we are which is LIFE. All the harm coming out of them is the FICTION they worship in the form of distortion/impurity/insincerity that they become when that's what they put their energy into. A dead corpse state is where Peter, Janis & Debra presently reside. The consciousness embodied in their form has been severely depleted just like what happens to a bucket after puncturing many holes so it can only hold a small amount of water. The bucket (their form - who they are creating) is almost empty of LIFE/consciousness and that empty space is filled with unconsciousness = all forms of harm doing upon LIFE (reality).
To create any physical, material, intellectual form of fiction means we have to destroy LIFE and what remains is a dead corpse without LIFE (consciousness) embodied in that form/image. Then we become slaves to this dead-corpse because it needs the living to perform for it which takes men, women and children away from LIFE (reality - nature - families, tribes/villages/communities - relationships). This taking away is MANS fall from paradise/garden of Eden. Today, we have billions lost in a fairytale supporting the supposed existence of a dead-corpse world (the civilisation of commerce) at the cost of forsaking/rejecting/ignoring LIFE (reality - who we really are - what we are really part of & our true purpose). This is what this saying points too: There are many slaves fighting to wear their manacles and protesting vigorously whenever someone tries to loosen them.
We were never meant to worship anything, including nature, MAN, God, etc, but that is what the believers of any form/image of fiction are doing. We are actually destroying who we are until there is nothing left of who we are (LIFE) to remind us who we really are.
We have documented all facets of this spiritual suicide and if you are interested in learning what we have been unravelling from outside the square since 2005 please read the articles posted here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 and the podcasts & videos posted here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7309 - We are ONLY interested in REMEDY and with the help of others along the way we have unravelled the remedy as well. You are always most welcome to contact us and if you ever feel inspired to co-create KINDOM (do no harm communities, the remedy) with us and us with you & others, do not hesitate to get in touch with us. If you want to have a long chat over the phone, we can ring you on the voip (we don't use skype for moral/ethical reasons) so send us your land-line number and we can call you for free and chat for as long as required.
If we are on the right path whenever issues arise they bring us closer together rather than letting them push us apart.
If we can't be there for each other when things/issues come up then we will never be able to heal LIFE together.
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
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1st June 2010
Hey guys,
No, I didn't take your last message as a lecture at all...I actually appreciate it when people explain their point of view.
I have decided that I really do not like this site or most of the people on it. They are rife with bile and anger generally and there is so little on here that is constructive.
VioL8d, who is a site admin, has told me that my response to having Janis post MY research as being something she found from being pointed to it by some fictitious facebook friend is a personal attack, no matter how subtle.
She lied, outright and bald-faced. How am I the one to blame for pointing out that it was an untruth? Or put on the spot and held accountable when told that I should share the court process I discovered when I gave enough clues how to research it themselves, without handing it to people who wish me harm, on a platter?
Peter doesn't get told off like that... and he uses the foulest language and NEVER offers anything concrete in the way of a remedy, he only ever tears people down and abuses them. And there are other people who are hinting all the time that they have the solutions to problems but will let others sort out how to do it.... Karl does that all the time. Globalman, bitter divorce or not, and justified in his stance against some people on this site or not, is still a very misogynistic man. I am sorry guys, but if I'd have been his wife I don't know how I could have restrained myself from killing him and keeping everything, lol He is very intelligent though.
I was not very polite in my response to Viol8d. I pointed out the hypocrisy quite graphically. And I am afraid I said that I don't give a rat's for his opinion when someone gets criticised by an admin for pointing out a simple fact (an easily exposed lie) while those who run over anyone at will are allowed and encouraged to do so? I might not be here much longer.
No wonder this site has so few members. GAz had complained to me that freemen in Australia constantly bitch at each other, back-stab, lie and steal without recognition. And yet, it is encouraged under the guise of 'freedom of expression.' One simply cannot deal with these people and remain in honour. On a minor note... their inability to spell infuriates me, lol.
I do understand what you are saying about LIFE and the enormous expenditure of negative energy of these people. My own personal conclusion about their 'dead corpse state' is that they are happy, in their ways, with a new god: instead of YHWH they have TPTB (or just PTB, Powers-That-Be). I guess that not creating something positive and focusing on everything possible that is negative can give some comfort. But it is not constructive, is it?
Personally I use the term 'energy vampires' for these kinds of people...because they do draw the energy out of others and feed on it.
I have an ACN Iris3000 VoiP digital videophone home phone. It's blu-ray (has it's own HD 7 inch screen, doesn't go through the computer but does use the adsl connection. All my local and national calls are free. Plus I can call anyone anywhere in the world with one and its free, too. There will be 267 million of these in circulation by 2012, so that is pretty good. I don't use skype, never did like it.
Right now though I am busy trying to use the strategies with my bank to clear my mortgage, pretty much the way George Tran has, so while do fully intend to check out the links you have given me and I am interested in your kingdom concept, a lot depends on how this month goes for me.
My home number is ................................ Wherever I move to, that number remains the same as the number is tied to the phone, not the house.
I often let it go to voicemail first though and call back to the number that is left in a message... as Janis and company got it, (Janis has one also) and she still gets people to call, so I am screening.
I would certainly enjoy talking to you both,
Cheers
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2nd June 2010
"I don't want to lie on my yoga mat, think peace and do nothing." The Powers That Be have designed a thousand and one distractions to prevent us from co-creating remedy. We expend so much energy on truth, freedom, peace & prosperity for all without ever creating it. We have created a dream but we refuse to give it life.
Arthur Cristian