

Stepping Out Of The Matrix
by Arthur Cristian
[Note: Its best to read this webpage from the bottom up to get the synchronicity right.]
17th January 2009
Dear lost one
As the history you revere and idolise so much was written only by the establishment, the tiny tiny tiny tiny select few of the total global population - the probably less than .01% or is it the .001% of the total global population going back for the last 10,000 years, the somewhere between 10 to 100 per one million of the total global population, meaning the ancestors of the present 6.5 billion total global population had absolutely nothing to do with recording any history in any read and write alphabet language going back 10,000 years.
This history has been nurtured, added to, embellished and broadcast to such a degree that it now stands as high as the obelisks of the Establishment in comparison to the ant-sized contribution made by the rest of the population.

Can you see the ant standing next to the obelisk?????
This history you rely so much upon is their history, supporting their agenda and your steadfast belief in what they are telling you is only supporting and encouraging the growth of their agenda.
The reflection of the obelisk is the brainwashed, just like you dear lost one,

who have formed their version of reality in the image (the recorded history) projected by the establishment. Meaning. no matter how far one goes back in researching the documents of alphabet language recorded history the researcher can only form his version of reality in the image projected
(recorded) by the establishment.
What this really means for believers like yourself is this

You're in the matrix walking down the yellow brick road

which really is

A Maze within a Maze within a Maze so that you will always create your life, your version of reality, in the image created for you by the establishment.
This maze of recorded alphabet language history is what is used to create fools and worst of all, the fools spend their whole lives living in the maze of many mazes without ever realising they are lost in the maze of recorded alphabet-language history (of knowledge), not of their own making yet in their making, and they will argue even until the death to protect the maze, that is the matrix, that is the version of reality they have formed their lives out of, because they don't know anything else and they don't care. Life is now too set in concrete, full of solidified distractions that peg the fools to the matrix.
Only Fools Argue For Their History!

They are lost in a fairytale without ever realising they are lost.

They just don't know who they really are.

The establishment did not waste a moment to get at fools like you dear lost one, they had already got at the parents and ancestors of today's total global population of innocent naive & gullible fools and brainwashed them as well,

so that now little new-born babies (you were once an innocent baby weren't you dear lost one???) can be thrown into the establishment sandpit of their recorded and enforced version of reality

and there you are provided with all the establishment plastic toys of knowledge (their recorded and enforced alphabet language version of reality)
which you use to play with, and in doing so, form your concreted version of reality out of.
YOU WERE TAUGHT TO SPELL AN ALPHABET LANGUAGE

SO YOU CAN BE UNDER THEIR SPELL

The establishment created a sandpit for the innocent to play in and called it EDUCATION

The establishment made sure they got you to enter their sandpit (the matrix) and they keep you there forever (actually you keep yourself there). The establishment provided you with all the plastic toys of their recorded history of EDUCATION (knowledge) for the fools to play in so they grow up forging bonds with the establishments civilisation of commerce



And there they arrogantly spend a lifetime being fools at the beck and call of the establishment.
The fools are provided with everything they need by the establishments civilisation of commerce so not a day goes past without providing amusement to keep the fools preoccupied. Built within the fabric of the establishments civilisation of commerce, the establishment has created a supermarket of con-structs for us to choose from, thousands of fictions stacked in aisle upon aisle in their shiny wrappings, so many that we are conned into thinking we have freedom because of the dazzling array on offer. Some are listed further down. And each day the families of the civilisations of commerce venture into the supermarket of life to see which purpose for life they wish to purchase that day, happily singing songs about their freedom and peace and the environment and their joy for life and the innocence of their children while, in reality, they are all operating within the parameters provided by their civilisation of commerce as SLAVES.














































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The point of all this is to show you that everything you are believing in and fighting for is WITHIN the matrix.
You are still playing with the Establishments toys, much to their delight.
Can you prove otherwise?
The "heart-felt logic" that I work with and that you can only sneer at, offers a remedy OUTSIDE the fiction, away from the matrix, out of the mazes.
We are not diving into their history because their is no remedy there.
All you find in their history is just that "THEIR HIS-STORY". So What?
What can we do with it?????
Does this establishment history/knowledge grow food, make the sun shine, cause trees to produce oxygen, flowers to produce pollen and nectar
and bees to collect the gifts of the flowers and store them for other creatures to eat? Does this knowledge cause the clouds to rain and the rivers to run? Does this knowledge create true freedom for MAN?

All we are talking about here is a mountain of books stacked up miles high.
That's all establishment history/knowledge is.
Big Deal!

"Hello mountain of books", formed by stock piling all the books that exist into one pile going many miles high, "Please Talk To me?" ------- "Hello Anyone There"????
Even in ten thousand years there would be no reply. That's because its dead, has no substance on offer to provide life for the living.
And those who believe in the mountain of books become zombies.
All the expertise in the world today forged out of the establishment knowledge and its institutions of knowledge, has done nothing to solve our problems.
Where is the remedy?
What we have in the matrix that is the establishments version of reality, that being "Their Civilisation Of Commerce" are parrots like you dear lost one,

brilliant at parroting establishment history, law, government, politics, private corporations, economics, banking, finance, taxation, debts, interest, credit, stock markets, shares, investments, census, media, Hollywood, Broadway, Play TV, Play-Stations, soap operas, sport, sex, drugs, rock and roll, fashion, alcohol, real estate, degrees, certificates, licenses, registrations, permits, passports, multiculturalism, immigration, race, culture, creed, political correctness, science, philosophy, education, alphabet languages, pharmaceuticals, vaccination, fluoride, freedom, get-away-holidays, religions, New Age, cosmic channellings from other worlds and dimensions, personal success motivation, positive attitudes and a sense of self-worth and belonging TO THE MATRIX.
The parrots always base everything on their relationship to the establishments CIVILISATION OF COMMERCE.
It is the hand of the establishment and its supermarket that feeds the life-purpose of the parrots (the fools).

And in doing so they create no substance, therefore offer no substance either!!!!!
Have you not yet noticed this odd occurrence with yourself dear lost one????
Who are you????
What are you????
What have you got on offer that provides true freedom (life) for MAN????
By diving into the ocean of establishment books and literature we ain't going anywhere but around and around and around the same old ground trapped in the maze without ever remembering who we really are.

And when we use all the establishment history to justify our position in the matrix, we perpetuate the matrix. We can use the knowledge provided by the Establishment to justify the existence of the Establishment for the rest of our days and we will be proven right because the Establishment matrix is what we will get! When we look back at Establishment history and the formation of Establishment civilisation over the centuries, all we get is a confirmation of the same slavery that we are under today, whether the enslavement is overt or covert! Yes, we are still in Establishment fiction, just as we have been for the last 10,000 years - that does not mean that Establishment fiction is the only choice we have and that there is not another alternative!
Argue for your limitations and sure enough they are yours.
Argue for Establishment fiction and that's what you get.

Time to opt out of the matrix don't you think?

I have yet to come across any other remedy on offer that steps outside the fiction and I would be happy to hear of one.

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17th January 2009
Chris F wrote: (or did he?)
FOR Arthur @ Love For Life Chris F
WOW - stunning Egyptian history lesson - mind-boggling. It is true that there are remnants of 'ancient Egypt' in many parts of the word - a few buildings in the USA, Europe - even Australia - (Parliament House in Canberra) are clearly inspired by Pharoahic concepts of architecture - but there's a rational explanation for this:-
Because the ancient Egyptians were first to construct the equivalent of a metropolis, first to establish a rigidly structured society where 'the living Sun God' (Pharaoh) was king-pin - it was inevitable that other so-called 'civilizations' would follow at least some of their examples....inclusive of 'commerce'.
I had to snigger at your absurd suggestion that I am a "zombified clone" - but, seriously, I see where you're describing your 'Body of Work' as "heartfelt logic".
It IS exactly that: "'heartfelt logic" - as such, it clearly places NO value at all on actual, factual history.
But this was interesting:-
*** SATAN, a wise man priest living in the times of Ancient Egypt roughly 10,000 years ago was the creator, the founder of the dream of civilisation. All dreams require a creator and the establishment who governs civilisation worship their blood-line-founding-father SATAN who is/was also known as Zeus, Ahriman, Moloch, Baal, Lucifer amongst many other names given to God like characters or supposed fallen angels.
Obviously, 'Satan's origins are completely UNKNOWN - but in a weird way you just might have identified an aspect of human history that hasn't been researched or studied to the degree
that it demands.... Specifically, what I'll call 'Bad Guy syndrome':
For all of human history, the top-dogs (your 00.09%: the ultra elite) have exhorted the lower orders to HATE and LOATH some-one - either an individual, or a definable 'group'...
In my parent's time it was Adolf Hitler - currently it's Osama Bin Laden - for the Romans, it was "the Barbarians at the gates"... And for ancient Arabs (including Egyptians) it was those pesky money-grabbing Israelites - who are STILL on the Arab's shit-list.
It is possible that the 'bad guys' you have listed, Zeus, Ahriman etc. were actual characters - demonised for political advantage in the way Bin Laden is today.
I see where you're basically identifying ancient Egypt as the root cause of all the world's evils - suggesting - nay, insisting, that the influence of the ancient Egyptians remains constant and overwhelming to this very day...
As they were, as you say, developers of geometry, triganometry, arithmetic and other aspects of mathematics (algebra came later, with the Greeks), the ancient Egyptians always were going to leave lasting imprints on mankind.
It's also apparent that modern 'free-masonry' (which, you should be assured, is totally harmless and ludicrously eccentric) does indeed trace it's origins to the stone-masons and mathematicians of the ancient world - inclusive of Egyptian engineers who designed pyramids.
Pyramids took centuries to construct in some cases - and few, if any, were built by slaves - most were built by successive generations of 'subbies' (sub-contractors).
Naturally - you're drawing a ridiculously long bow to equate modern universities with 'Egyptian Mystery Schools' - although both pass for 'higher learning' institutions in the context of their times.
Your reference to "mystery schools" is one of your RARE GEMS: whereas such 'schools' may not have been called by that unlikely name, it is true that Pharoahic high priests DID have a system to teach selected youngsters in the ways of their mysterious 'arts' - and, YES, 'black magic' might have been included in the curriculum....
But Egyptian 'Black Magic', like David Copperfield's today, was all smoke and mirrors. One example, worshipers were directed to place a COIN (Yes, Arthur, a COIN) in the head of what the high priests claimed was a statue of great spiritual meaning - miraculously, the breast of the statue would then dispense a sacred liquid, which the worshipers were required to wash their hands with....
The Egyptian lower orders, of course, were in great awe of this iconic dispenser of sacramental nectar - confirmation of the magical power and Pharaoh and his huge retinue of high priests.
In FACT, the high priests had built the word's first VENDING MACHINES - several of which, along with a set of plans rolled in a 'sacred' scroll, were 'dug-up' by archaeologists in the late 19th century.
The sacred nectar, of course, was lolly water.
So much for the magic.
History, REAL history, is chocka-block with facts like this one.
Moving on - I see where some-one signed as M.M. inexplicably tackled your Questionnaire ('When is the right time to kill an animal '? etc.).... No point in that - you are completely impervious to commonsense so this guy was wasting his time - does he call you "ANT" ? If so, perhaps appropriate.
Finally, your hypothesis on 'Admiral Blake' was readable - and analogous to the Roman's arrival in Briton in AD55. The Roman's idea of 'civilizing' the British Isles was akin to the 'promises' you have attributed to 'Admiral Blake' - and the native Britons might well have agreed with this:-
'All we Poms ever got from the Romans was':brainwashing education, poisonous diet, enslaving commerce-government-laws-corporations, made-to-measure history and disease-spreading medicine.
It would not have been correct, strictly speaking, but all forms of modernisation have a serious down-side - and the native Britons in large part resented the Romans for showing-up and spending over 300 years 'civilizing' the place.
The British tribal 'queen' Bodacea led a major anti-Roman uprising in 212 AD - she was the first Brit to take an anti-European Union position - millions of Poms have stayed staunchly anti-Euro ever since.
Note that the Roman's achieved a total European 'union' - even a free market between their Euro-colonies.
But, of course, Italians called all the shots.
Arthur/Ant - I might again throw some real history your way: in your mindless raves the occasional GEM flashes-out, virtually demanding proper explanation in actual historic context.
BUT ALL your 'Body of Work' IS, as you have inadvertently conceded, "heartfelt logic" - I regret that I can't deal with any accuracy in 'feelings of the heart' - I just deal in HISTORIC FACTS.
Checked-out your family photos too - couldn't guess the age of any of your folks - you're only as old/young as you look and feel !
Do what you do well....
And thanks to 'Satan' for giving you an all-purpose whipping boy - where would you be without him?
Have a good weekend in the kindom
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16th January 2009
Dear Confused One.
I provide you with a very brief sketchy unedited outline of some of the heartfelt-logic information found in the body of our work here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 The answers to any further questions or probes or issues/arguments that may arise will be found in the body of our work. Its up to you to put the effort in to find them.
All lies wear thin so the blood-line families (the establishment) who bear the abomination (COMMERCE - THE CIVILISATION OF COMMERCE) of their founding father SATAN*** have adapted and adapted and adapted across THEIR RECORDED AGES (THEIR HIS-STORY) to cover up their lies. Remember it is their (the establishment) history and not 99.99% of the total global population who had absolutely nothing to do with recording any alphabet language history.
*** SATAN, a wise man priest living in the times of Ancient Egypt roughly 10,000 years ago was the creator, the founder of the dream of civilisation. All dreams require a creator and the establishment who governs civilisation worship their blood-line-founding-father SATAN who is/was also known as Zeus, Ahriman, Moloch, Baal, Lucifer amongst many other names given to God like characters or supposed fallen angels.
The entourages that left Ancient Egypt on foot or by ship roughly 10,000 years ago to travel around the globe bore Ancient Egypt's abomination. Each entourage provided "illumined" (mystery schools - secret societies - cults - sects = True Freemasonry) educators of sacred geometry, mathematics, alphabet languages and its recorded history, religion, science and philosophy which together formed the basis of Ancient Egypt's civilisation of commerce governed by its royal families divinely appointed by God (Satan - The Establishment), high-priesthoods divinely appointed by God (the establishment), its rule of law divinely appointed by God (the establishment), its commerce, banking, insurance, private-corporations, education, society etc etc.
These travelling entourages formed the basis of Ancient Egyptian Mystery-Schools, today called UNIVERSITIES. Just as wasps move from one breeding nest to colonise new-lands by establishing new nests, so every Western World University is a centralised breeding ground for establishment lackeys and Free-Masonic illuminaries to spread the brainwashing of Ancient Egyptian civilisation and its commerce upon the lands it covets.
You had to be privileged to be given the opportunity to master the true practised craftwork of TRUE FREEMASONRY which took the better part of 20 years to achieve, in the process learning all the CON-STRUCTS of SACRED-GEOMETRY which is the basis of MATHEMATICS and together they form the BLACK-MAGIC CAULDRON bubbling and steaming con-structed numbers, letters and words of the civilisation of commerce, all invented out-of-thin-air.
The illumined masters of True-Freemasonry are the cackling, long-nosed, warts-and-all warlocks and witches with Merlin wands/sticks stirring their con-structed brews of their deluded imaginings.
The basis of SATAN'S abomination is DIVIDE AND RULE (divide/separate MAN from consciousness/creation) as seen in the Free-Masonic symbol of the compass and square (SACRED GEOMETRY).
Today's University with all its courses and careers on offer for civilisation, are all derived from this JET-BLACK-MAGIC-CAULDRON. The education on offer by the Freemasons is one of FICTION (CON-STRUCTS) that provide the infrastructure of the FREEMASONS WESTERN-WORLD-CIVILISATION which is based on COMMERCE.
The Western World Civilisation is the trademark of Ancient Egypt. Wherever you find evidence of commerce you find a civilisation built from the foundations of Ancient Egypt's trademark and each of these civilisations sprouted out from the entourages that sprouted like seeds out of Ancient Egypt.
Wherever Ancient Egypt's abomination (commerce - the civilisation of commerce) travelled (the men and women who believed in commerce be it on boat or by foot, be it peacefully as merchants/travellers or by war/occupation) they established a READ AND WRITE ALPHABET LANGUAGE to be the backbone of that particular civilisation in order to be able to introduce ANCIENT EGYPTIAN COMMERCE.
From Ancient Egyptian Hieroglyphics came ALL other read and write alphabet languages. ALL OF THEM.
From Ancient Egyptian Civilisation came ALL other civilisations. ALL OF THEM.
From Ancient Egyptian Commerce came ALL other forms of commerce. ALL OF THEM.
From Ancient Egyptian Education/Universities came ALL other forms of education/university. ALL OF THEM.
As planed from the very beginning, The Establishment blood-line families have always been hidden amongst those behind each new civilisation of commerce, seemingly unrelated with their different names and fabricated backgrounds (remember, they wrote ALL THE HISTORY/THEIR HIS-STORY - no one else did), but always there to ensure their continuation of the agenda, for it cannot happen without organisation. Remember, all fictions are not self-recreating as we find amongst the conscious-living life-forms of creation, inanimate or not.
All FICTION is dead from the moment it's thought of, through the time of its physical/material formation and until the time of its crumbling back into earth. At all times the Fiction needs MAN to do the thinking for the fiction, to do the walking for the fiction, to do the talking for the fiction, to do the negotiating for the fiction, to do the con-tracting for the fiction, to do the paperwork for the fiction, to do the pressing on the keyboards for the fiction, to do the filing for the fiction etc etc. The fiction can't do anything because it doesn't exist as part of reality, part of creation.
But what does exist is the incontrovertible evidence of the immense destruction to creation by any man, woman or child who believes in and worships fiction. This is the only evidence of fiction available.
The Fiction requires MAN to maintain it and this requires belief in the imagined-out-of-thin-air-con-struct of the fiction. Thus the worship in belief of the con-struct-of-the-fiction becomes the ritual that maintains the fictionalised existence (the physical/material form) of the con-struct as in the commerce, as in the government of the commerce, as in the infrastructure of the commerce, as in the banking/finance of the commerce, as in the limited-liability insurance of the commerce, as in the stock-markets of the commerce, as in the civilisation of the commerce, as in the education of the commerce, as in the read and write alphabet languages of the commerce, as in the history of the commerce, as in the religions of the commerce, as in the media of the commerce, as in the New Age of the commerce, as in the personal success motivation of the commerce, as in etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc "ALL ORGANISED".
Nothing is left to chance when it comes to organisation as organisation reflects the intent of fallen men and women who put their energy into the physical/material form of the organisation (the con-struct) to keep the fiction showing up the way they intend it.
They needed to introduce their alphabet languages and their constructs in order for us to swallow their commerce which enslaves us and delivers them untold wealth and power. It also causes all the problems we are facing in the world today directly or indirectly. All the worries, concerns, stress, troubles, fights, battles, hardships, outrage, disgust and suffering we face are the result of fiction and the only way to rid ourselves of all these problems is to rid ourselves of the fiction. If we (MAN) were left in creation unexposed to fiction there would be no fiction to affect us. There would be no distortions to the fabric of MANS creation (our creation of MAN).
Everything of fiction is PLANED.
FICTION does not have weather changes or tides that come and go or a living heart pumping blood through its veins so instead, the fiction requires men and women behind it to be the dead-heart of the fiction, to be the veins of the fiction, to be the organs and glands of the fiction, to be the nervous system of the fiction, to be the brain of the fiction. So you only need to see who benefits from the existence of the fiction to see who are the true architects of the New World Order and every other fictionalised event that is being carried out as in 9/11, Bali bombings, London Bombings, Al Qaeda Terrorism, Diana Spencer's Assassination, Global Economic Meltdown, Global Warming, U.S. $ crashing, Economic Recessions, Depressions, Inflation, NWO, Vaccinations, Fluoride, MSG, Aspartame, Chemtrails, Iraq War, The War In Afghanistan, Israel (Is = ISIS - Ra = RA - El = EL - three of thirteen black-magic sects/cults of Ancient Egypt disguised as the Bibles 13 Hebrew tribes of Israel). Israel's war against the Palestinians etc etc etc etc.
All thought out and planed from the very beginning by those who benefit the most in the end.
Can you think of anyone else bar "The Establishment" who benefits from our (MANS) belief and worship in fiction????
All those historical "facts" you are throwing at me are taken from their history, written in their alphabet languages, taught in their schools and their universities. These "facts" have been strewn like seeds across their civilisations until they are seemingly unrelated and the incredible similarities between most religions, politics, education, commerce etc, are promoted as "coincidental", the fog of each new "civilisation " hiding the shadowy figures of THE ESTABLISHMENT pulling the strings in the background, all connected to "The Crown".
"The Crown" is Satan is Pharaoh is Caesar is Emperor is King is President is any flesh and blood man or woman with spirit embodied acting as an authorised 3rd party representative of Ancient Egyptian Civilisation. Ancient EgyptTM or Ancient Egypt Inc or Ancient Egypt© or Ancient Egypt® etc etc
ALL alphabet languages are of this blood-line family who traversed the globe to spread the knowledge of their CON-STRUCT (COMMERCE). Remember all con-structs are FICTIONS that are not found anywhere in creation. They don't grow like fruit on a tree or come from the clouds like rain or come tumbling down the mountains when the glaciers melt or are collected by bees as they journey from flower to flower or are created like lambs and calfs. FICTIONS cannot maintain themselves, can't stand or walk or talk or create any substance whatsoever.
All fictions require destruction to creation to form its physical/material images and they require our (MANS) energy to be put into them on a constant basis to maintain these forms otherwise they crumble and perish back into thin air (the ideas of fiction) from whence they came.
Ancient Egypt adapted its commerce (civilisation of commerce) to become (not in this exact order) Sumerian, Phoenician, Assyrian/Persian, Hebrew, Chinese, Pacific-Rim based/MU, Incan, Aztec and Mayan, Babylonian, Sanskrit, Minoan/Greek, Roman, Latin, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, etc etc etc etc. The Royal families of each country is "The Establishment", is the blood-line family that stems out of Ancient Egypt from roughly 10,000 years ago.
Remember; without read and write alphabet languages, there was no way of introducing the constructs of fiction. Imagine representatives of Her Majesties Government arriving on a pristine island where the inhabitants had had no previous contact with "civilisation".
"Good morning, I am Admiral Blake of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth's Royal Navy. We're here to do a census of the inhabitants of this island so that we can determine what assistance you need in the form of schools, medical centers, banking, insurance, stadiums, media outlets etc."
Now, even if the inhabitants could comprehend English, they would have absolutely no idea what Admiral Blake was talking about. They would have no concept of Admiral, Navy, Her Majesty, census, medical centers, schools, banking, insurance, stadiums, media outlets etc, because these are all constructs that have arisen from our "Western World civilisation".
Without Admiral Blake and the establishment entourage that would surely follow with its brainwashing education, poisonous diet, enslaving commerce-government-laws-corporations, made-to-measure history and disease-spreading medicine, these constructs would never have a place on the island.
The inhabitants represent the 99.99% of the total global population who have never had anything to do with the establishment agenda but have been brainwashed into supporting their "civilisation" and providing the energy civilisation needs to keep it going.
The commerce of Rome is Ancient Egypt.
The commerce of Minoa is Ancient Egypt
The commerce of the Hebrews is Ancient Egypt
The commerce of Babylon is Ancient Egypt
The commerce of Sumeria is Ancient Egypt
The commerce of Phoenicia is Ancient Egypt
The commerce of Persia is Ancient Egypt
The commerce of Ancient China is Ancient Egypt
The commerce of the Mayans, Incas and Aztecs is Ancient Egypt.
The commerce of America, United Kingdom, New Zealand, Australia, Canada etc is Ancient Egypt..... just look at the architecture of establishment (government) buildings.
We all still live in the construct of Ancient Egypt. The civilisation of Ancient Egypt and its commerce has never left us.
We have been conned into thinking otherwise!
The true language of MANS tongue has/had nothing to do with any read and write alphabet language. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT ALL. Its just like chalk and cheese.
Do you know what was and still is the true language of MANS tongue??????
See if you can work it out.
And lastly, with billions living in its suburbs and cities, with billions using its schools, universities and media, with billions using its health programs, hospitals and pharmaceuticals, with billions using its engineering, telecommunication, science and electronics, with billions using its social, civil and recreational services and entertainment, with billions using its governments and private corporations etc etc, the ONLY noticeable effect that it has had on life is complete and utter DESTRUCTION to creation, MAN included.
Just have a very very good look at the true-state of billions of lives living in the civilisations of Ancient Egypt today.
There is absolutely nothing that civilisation can offer MAN that creation can't already offer MAN. Creation performs a thousand times better in every way imaginable than civilisation.
So why are you and everyone else still clinging to Ancient Egypt's civilisation of commerce???
Who benefits?????
Where do you think your life is heading if you continue to believe in and worship what the civilisation of Ancient Egypt has on offer for you?????
Eternal HELL, because you will have destroyed all last remnants of your creation as MAN to remind you of who you really are.
The one thing I offer with all my work is a remedy to the Western World civilisation, a remedy that brings a true freedom and peace for all those who want it. Take a look at all that you believe in and see where the remedy is, see if you can find one, and that will show you where the truth is for the remedy can only be found where the truth is. And whoever offers the remedy offers the truth as well.
Conscious Love Always
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
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16th January 2009
Chris For wrote:
To Arthur @ Love For Life Campaign
Hi Arthur - just ONE point from your confused reply - 'snipped' from your largely nonsensical ramble which turned up in a nice shade of mauve at the bottom of your latest rave - being:- "only a tiny select few could read and write alphabet languages going back 10,000 years, they were the ONLY ones who recorded ALL his-story in any read and write alphabet language".
Broadly - that's correct - but more than one alphabet language had emerged by the time of the Iron Age, although each was exclusively the preserve of the elite - as you say.
Your ridiculous fixation on 'the Crown' requires me to (attempt to) state the facts relating to the first alphabet language written and spoken in the British Isles and in fact ALL of Europe.
This was of course Latin, introduced by the Romans to 'Britannia' (as they called their new colony) in AD55.
The origins of Latin lie in Greek, which was also an alphabet language, but confined to the earlier area of Greek influence in the Mediterranean.
The Romans 'spread' Latin all over their empire - virtually the known world. But, as you say (perhaps the only accurate statement you've made for months), only the top 2% of the population of Roman colonies could speak, read and write it.
Literacy in Latin in Rome itself (modern Italy) was somewhat higher - perhaps 20% could read and write what had by then become their 'mother tongue'.
Whereas it is TRUE that the victors always write history - and in the victors language - the history of language, exactly like the history of money, is thoroughly documented, totally proven - and beyond any question.
Arthur, TRY to understand this - ALL I am endeavoring to do in these missives to L4L is draw your attention to historic facts. The histories of Language and Money are exactly, precisely as scholars have indicated - notwithstanding potential bias , 'slant' or 'spin' written in to them over the centuries (by'victors')...
Because, in each case, volumes of confirmatory evidence turned up by archaeologists has substantiated the known facts.
Or, just as often, authenticated what was believed (about a coin's denomination and value, or an alphabetic symbol's status or meaning).
Arthur, I have NEVER sought to canvass with you what you call "the realities of today" - these are just as much a mystery to me as they are to you - ALL I am trying to get-across to you are the historical FACTS about just two topics (language and money) that are not beyond ANY form of dispute.
In the light of your total failure to look beyond your own prejudices and examine historical fact - I have no interest or intention to "look at your Body of Work".
Until you can at least aspire to some semblance of historical accuracy - your 'Body of Work' can only be regarded as rubbish.
Well-intentioned, no doubt - and with the occasional 'gem' (like your 'brand' Love4Life) - but soured beyond any measure of credibility by your personal experiences with what you perceive to be 'a corrupt system'.
For example: this is rubbish -
His-Story started with their founding father Satan, a wise-man priest who started/invented/dreamt of civilisation back in Ancient Egypt. You need to read/study the body of our work to fill you in on everything: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 All recorded history is a record only of the establishment. The serfs, commoners, goy, slaves, renters, garbage etc for 10,000 years were not even on the radar. Nothing much has changed.
Arthur - clearly you have NEVER read any History book: Historians go to inordinate lengths to study the status of "serfs, commoners, slaves, renters" etc. - the vast majority of people who lived under the priests, kings and aristocratic elite.
The existence and experiences of 'the common man' are as well documented as those of the elite....
Of course, there are MANY THINGS we will "never know" - but your 'Body of Work' is clearly based on an INTENSELY PERSONAL perspective.... Hence, commonsense dictates that it should be disregarded - or at least not taken TOO seriously...
Thanks for the compliments (I wish I WAS a 'good man' - if only) - appreciated - but I can't go any further with L4L, directly as a consequence of your blind refusal to examine historic FACT.
But have an OK day
Hope Fiona and the kids are AOK
Chris F
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16th January 2009
Dear Chris
I just now got to look at your reply and honestly thought "oh my God, not another one lost in fiction-fantasyland". I am not questioning your heart because I know that you are a very good MAN with a very good heart but your perspectives on reality are awfully distorted. I have not the time to repeat all the groundwork of our research to get across to you everything that stands as TRUTH today, truth that I do not claim as our own, but truth that is everyone's truth.
You need to put the time in and study all our work in depth otherwise you will keep replying to my comments that are generally posted to an intimate private network of around 400. These private communications do not go out to the 5000+ registrations in the Love For Life mailing list that reaches over 200,000 readers globally. Most in this private network have been exposed to our work for more than 12 months now, many over 2 years. No fault of your own nor do I seek to make you wrong but you are lagging well behind without all the information readily at hand because these replies from you would not be occurring otherwise.
As I am rushing off to bed I have cut and pasted this bit of unedited info from a recent comment in this posting here: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/6135 to give you a glimpse into the true matrix of fiction-fantasyland...............
[Keeping in mind that "The Crown" is the head of the tiny select few who could read and write alphabet languages going back 10,000 years, they were the ONLY ones who recorded ALL his-story in any read and write alphabet language. No one else could. 99.99% of the total global population (999,900 per one million - the % could be even higher) could not read or write any alphabet language until after 1780, with the majority still unable to do so until up around 1930 or later.
I am talking about your ancestors, my ancestors and the ancestors of today's population of 6.5 billion. They all had nothing to do with recording any his-story. Only the owners of the Castles, The Land Lords, The High Priest-Hoods, The Royal Families, The Aristocrats and all their lackeys could read and write any alphabet language which took the better part of 20 years to master. You had to be privileged (exclusivity) to learn and master any read or write alphabet language.
Through gradualism "The Crown" enforced their education (brainwashed their cleverly crafted Western World version of reality - remember the victors always write their history biasedly) upon their serfs, commoners, goy, slaves, renters. It was an established policy put in place during the 1600's and executed during the mid/late 1700's. "The Crown" (The Establishment - the tiny tiny tiny select few less than .01% of the total global population - less than 100 per one million) cleverly used their recorded ancient bibles, ancient scripture, ancient his-story etc etc to CON the serfs into willingly accept a person (their person) conducting business in "The Crowns" world of commerce.
How else could they have pulled this CON off???????
We were all led to believe everything about our Western World History in such a way that we would willingly accept "commerce" to creep in through the back-door unchecked and be part of our every-day lives as "The Norms". I call this very very very very clever mind-control tactic "The James Bond Syndrome" also known as SOPHISTRY. Learn from an example here: THE WAY by Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 9th August 2008: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5231
"The establishment ensures we are fed a cocktail of truth and lies. The Bible, for example, contains truths that many of us recognise, leading us to assume that everything in the Bible is true. This is a fatal mistake as the lies intermingled with the truths are what cause the destruction of creation and what create the enclosures that trap us. We call this the James Bond Syndrome; you want James inside the targeted compound to do his job of destroying it but you got to get him past the high security gates, so you hide James in the boot of the car to get him inside. Once in, you release him to wreck the joint. That is what lies mixed in with truths will do to anyone believing in the establishment knowledge “on offer”. Truth does no harm while “the lies” (James Bond) cause all the damage."]
His-Story is their story (their record of their history) recorded in any of all their read and write alphabet languages going back 10,000 years. His-Story started with their founding father Satan, a wise-man priest who started/invented/dreamt of civilisation back in Ancient Egypt. You need to read/study the body of our work to fill you in on everything: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 All recorded history is a record only of the establishment. The serfs, commoners, goy, slaves, renters, garbage etc for 10,000 years were not even on the radar. Nothing much has changed.
A debate has ensued here: Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office Part Two - Today, A Standoff Between Us & 4 Sheriff Officers & 4 Policeman: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6135 which will fill you in on more of this subject. I will be posting more info in this section over the next few hours.
Can you work the rest out for yourself Chris???????
I repeat a small part of the above and hope that all the lights get turned on in your brain BIG-TIME....... "only a tiny select few could read and write alphabet languages going back 10,000 years, they were the ONLY ones who recorded ALL his-story in any read and write alphabet language. No one else could. 99.99% of the total global population (999,900 per one million - the % could be even higher) could not read or write any alphabet language until after 1780, with the majority still unable to do so until up around 1930 or later. I am talking about your ancestors, my ancestors and the ancestors of today's population of 6.5 billion. They all had nothing to do with recording any his-story. Only the owners of the Castles, The Land Lords, The High Priest-Hoods, The Royal Families, The Aristocrats and all their lackeys could read and write any alphabet language which took the better part of 20 years to master. You had to be privileged (exclusivity) to learn and master any read or write alphabet language.
May you find your way out of the yellow brick road matrix ASAP
And also, a FICTION is still a FICTION no matter what you try to do it, garnished or not. All fictions are dead requiring destruction to creation to form them and without our energy (belief or faith) we put into them, to maintain them, they quickly fade away back into the invisible thin-air of nothingness whence they came. ALL FICTIONS ARE FAIRYTALES. And in your own words "Might I suggest you familiarise yourself with the realities of history (both ancient and modern)"
(HIS-STORY) His-Story is their story (their record of their history) recorded in any of all their read and write alphabet languages going back 10,000 years. His-Story started with their founding father Satan, a wise-man priest who started/invented/dreamt of civilisation back in Ancient Egypt. You need to read/study the body of our work to fill you in on everything: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 All recorded history is a record only of the establishment. The serfs, commoners, goy, slaves, renters, garbage etc for 10,000 years were not even on the radar. Nothing much has changed.
Conscious Love Always
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
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16th January 2009
FOR ARTHUR: Love For Life Campaign
From Chris F
WHAT ! ? ? ?
You must be raving mad.
The history of money is pretty-well precisely as reported to you.
Of course, money was created WELL AFTER 'creation' - neanderthals and humanoids were on the planet for millions of years BEFORE money.
ALL this has been scientifically proven and is beyond any question.
Might I suggest you familiarise yourself with the realities of history (both ancient and modern) - EVIDENCE for the backgrounder I sent you (on money) has been comprehensively established (Roman coins are still being dug-up in English meadows and fields - as any fool would have to know).
It was NEVER the purpose of the item I sent you to demonstrate "what money does for creation" - as best I can tell "creation" and 'money' are mutually exclusive concepts - one has NOTHING to do with the other.
Arthur - you are disputing totally-proven historic FACTS - wake-up to yourself.
Sincerely
Chris F
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14th January 2009
Hi Chris
Unfortunately your arrogance has gotten the better of you Chris.
The evidence that money exists will never be found in creation regardless how far you go back in history to find it.
Prove it, I bet you that you won't find any evidence that money exists or existed as part of creation, past, present or future.
All you will find are just remnants of destroyed creation (conscious-living life-forms inanimate or not) as in mountains, valleys, hills, trees, soil, rock, minerals etc.
But where is the money Chris??????
Also, please show me what money does for creation that aids creation in rolling along here and now????
Also, will creation or some life-form of creation suffer or even die if money does not exist???
A forest man unexposed to Western World Con-Structs comes out of the bush and sees shiny gold minerals on the ground. He does not see this gold mineral as money, he sees the gold only as a mineral or rock of the mountain or valley or hill or river or stream or creek etc. The forest man leaves the gold rock where he found it and moves on. He sees no economic value, however if required and necessary, he would see some kind of medicinal value or artistic/creative value in the gold rock and would take it with him.
Another man comes along from the Western World educated in the con-structs of the Western World sees the gold mineral laying on the ground, picks them up, puts them in his pocket and carries on a happy man.
The point in this explanation is the forest man does not believe that money exists. For thousands of years his ancestors and parents do not believe that money exists either and why should they because they have never found money anywhere in Creation. The gold rock did not communicate such information to the tribes for thousands of years.
Now the same applies with the Western World Man, he sees the gold rock laying on the ground just as the forest man did but the Western World man was educated about the invisible con-struct of money and in a state of belief (brainwashing) attaches the con-struct of money (the man-made knowledge) to the gold rock, therefore he does not listen to what information the gold rock has to share with him. The Western World man listened only to the knowledge he was brainwashed into believing in which blocks out/ignores all the information being given by the gold rock to the man.
The Man from the Western World is Self-Centered, he listens to the knowledge he was trained to believe in and ignores all the information being provided by every life-form of creation, inanimate or not. With bonds severed with the life-forms of creation, self centered men, women and children will Do Harm to creation.
Only fools believe money exist and that is why the earth is being destroyed left, right and center, above and below.
May you one day find your way back out of fiction-fantasyland to rejoin the real-world of the living as a team-playing co-creator of creation.
All the best
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
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14th January 2009
For Arthur @ Love For Life Campaign
From Chris F
Good morning Mr. Christian...
Thank you for these two lines: "Our signatures create the money". "Money does not exist".
The sheer simplicity of this furphy indicates that you're not aware of the history of money, which was well established (by coinage and parchment-scroll-type "bills") countless centuries BEFORE the 'establishment' you what you perceive as 'the Crown'. Indeed, LONG before the 'Britons' came-out of the trees: the British Isles were the LAST part of Europe to be 'civilized'. Way back when the Britons were totally Stone Age, middle eastern tribes and clans were minting, hoarding and spending money.
'Money', initially as parchment-pieces deemed to be the equivalent value of so many goats, heads of cattle etc. seems to have originated with the Phonecians, the Samarians, and the Syrians, around 2000 to 3000 BC. Such 'bills of exchange' were inevitable with the agriculturalisation of the Middle East - at the time when 'the arabs' ceased to be hunter-gatherers, and starting planting seeds for crops, and domesticating goats, sheep, pigs, dogs, cattle and horses, all of which were previously 'wild animals'.
The Greeks minted coins - before them, many 'civilisations' had a crude form of coinage by the time of the Iron Age - and the Romans, in their time, refined the monetary system to the point where coins of half a dozen denominations, plus 'parchment bills' of greater values, were in common
distribution (at least among the wealthier citizens).
But it was the Israelites that came-up with the concept of INTEREST - they determined then that money itself could earn money, when loaned to borrowers. It is highly likely that the Jewish folk earned the wrath of everyone else in the Middle East with this 'interest initiative' - notably, the Islamic faith (which emerged around 600 AD) rejected the concept of interest, as did the Roman Catholic church for many centuries...
Protestant churches, conversely, took-up the Jewish concept of 'interest' quite enthusiastically, allowing Henry the 8th. (in a sense founder of the Protestant/Anglican faith in his kingdom) to promote Protestantism as "business- friendly".
That's a very rough 'potted history' of money - which, regrettably DOES exist and virtually always has. A 'signature" does not and can not create money - but a signature most certainly can and too frequently does create DEBT.
But there's a heck of a difference between Money and Debt - but seemingly one that is NOT universally understood.
I would suggest that the current 'global financial meltdown' is due in some part at least to the fact that millions of people - including supposedly savvy Wall Street investors - lost sight of the huge DIFFERENCE between money and debt.
The "Western World" is assuredly NOT "in the control of QE2/the Crown" - their thankfully diminishing influence is confined to the U.K. - and, to a lesser but still most unfortunate degree, those nations that are part of the British Commonwealth.
And perhaps Ours (Australia) more so than others.
Just coming-back to the original, 'interest-raising' Israelites - at the time of their first WARS with everyone else in their region (around 5000 BC) , there's was an army-based military, led at one stage by the legendary King David, who "slew" the giant Philistine Goliath (at the age of 12).
So we're told.
Seeking a NAVAL force to attack the long-suffering Palestinians (as they're known now and were then), the Israelites negotiated with the Phonecians - who were the only sea-faring people in the region - based in what is now Crete and Cyprus.
The Phonecians, as monetarily smart as the Israelites, LEASED "a thousand ships" to the Israelites, complete with crews. It was apparently the Israelites intention to BUY every boat they Phonecians had in their fleet - but the Phonecians declined to SELL their fleet, offering instead to HIRE-OUT the fleet. Thus, LEASING is the creation of this ancient naval power....
Arthur, the peoples of the planet were 'doing business' WITH MONEY - THOUSANDS of years before the Romans lifted the Britons out of the Stone Age....
Your understanding of 'money' could be carved on a ten cent piece - with a power drill !
All that said - take care down there - WHAT will you 'come-up' with next ?
Another lulu - no doubt...
Chris F
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13th January 2009
Hi Chris
What I briefly state below has already been written about over and over and over again as found in many of the articles Fiona and I have posted in the Love For Life website since 2005, see: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 but I repeat some of this information here and now to help you comprehend what is really going on about everyday life today.
Our signatures create the money. Money does not exist. If everyone stopped signing anything the world that is the machine of commerce would come to a grinding halt. Money, an idea invented out-of-thin-air is copy-righted (the right of copy) and are rented out by the copyright holder (QE11/"The Crown") for a fee (a royalty) to anyone who rents (copies-believes in) the idea of money. Money is just one idea of many ideas that are part of commerce which is another idea (the master - the king - the original dream) conceived out-of-thin-air by its inventor who is the owner and copyright holder of said ideas.
All governments and their departments, courts of law, members of the bar, priests of religion, all courses and careers stemming from university and its leaders, and all representatives of private corporations including those who have an interest in any private corporation, act as 3rd party administrators, contracted to the copyright holder, administering the affairs (the business interests - as in paying of interest) of the copyright holder, that being all agents-in-commerce/the strawmen who rent (copy) the property (the intellectual proprietary knowledge) of the copyright holder, part of this being money (commerce).
This is why all agents in commerce (the strawman/straw-woman) pay interest or taxes or fees or a charge or a royalty or are bound by an obligation to the copy-right holder for renting the intellectual proprietary knowledge of the copyright holder. Everything to do with commerce, directly or indirectly, no matter what, is the property of the copyright holder who charges a fee (a rent - a royalty) to every strawman/straw-woman who believes in (sails upon) the copy-right-holders intellectual proprietary knowledge (the seas - who sees) and uses it (trades with it - sailing with the trade winds of the high seas - rents it) directly or indirectly.
What I am saying is this: The Con-struct (the idea invented out-of-thin-air) that is the Western World Civilisation is based on commerce. The Western World Civilisation is owned and controlled by the copyright holder (QE11/"The Crown") and we (men, women and children) were all trained/educated/headucated/brainwashed into inventing/believing /imagining out-of-thin-air an agent-in-commerce/strawman (A VESSEL) for ourselves to sail (conduct trade - do business - perform commerce) upon the copy-right-holders seas of commerce (of intellectual proprietary knowledge) that is the WESTERN WORLD CIVILISATION. In doing so we are all renters of the copy-right holders knowledge. Our fictitious agents-in-commerce/strawman are also known as our fictitious EGO and INTELLECT and MIND.
Both our fictitious strawman/agent-in-commerce and our fictitious ego/intellect/mind do not exist. No one can find them and they never will. The fictitious strawman/agent-in-commerce/ego/intellect/mind IS the fictitious intellectual proprietary knowledge we are RENTING (BELIEVING IN) and paying a ROYALTY to the COPY-RIGHT HOLDER for sailing on the high seas of their fictitious fantasyland called the WESTERN WORLD CIVILISATION. If you got every book that exists and stacked them all together into a mountain that rose many miles high, this mountain is THE HIGH SEAS (SEES) we all SAIL upon. (SEE - THE KNOWLEDGE WE SEE - WE KNOW). This fictitious mountain is what we use to form our fictitious strawman/agent-in-commerce/ego/intellect/mind out of. This mountain is the intellectual proprietary knowledge (THE HISTORY - THE HIS-STORY) of the copy-right-holder because every book is written in a read and write alphabet language which is owned and controlled by the copy-right holder who is the inventor of all read and write alphabet languages.
The fictitious world (the fairy-tale - the true-matrix) that is this mountain, that is the universities with all its courses and careers, that is the governments and all its departments, that is the rule of law and courts of law and all members of the bar, that is all the priests and their religions, that is the private corporations and its representatives, that is science, that is engineering, that is technology, that is telecommunication, that is big-pharma, that is all esoterics and occults, that is New Age, that is media, that is Hollywood, TV and Radio, that is the high seas (see) we sail upon, has absolutely nothing to do with the real-living world I call creation bar having to destroy creation (conscious-living life-forms inanimate or not) to form the DEAD physical/material images of its fiction.
Without idiot friendly full disclosure provided up front so we were fully able to comprehend what we were entering into, we were all tricked into entering into the fictitious world of the copy-right holders fairy-tale. We were all provided with a character who acts in the fairytale, and all-the-time we spend acting in the fairy-tale is all-the-time we spend renting the intellectual proprietary knowledge (paying a royalty), owned and controlled by the copy-right holder (QE11/"The Crown").
WELCOME TO THE TRUE MATRIX called fiction-fantasyland better known as the WESTERN WORLD CIVILISATION or even better known as HELL
All the time spent sailing the seas of commerce is all the time spent destroying creation, including ourselves and those we love. The remedy we offer (KINDOM) is a return to creation, pulling down the sails, shipping the oars and saying, "No thank you" to the world of commerce and "No, thank you" to the bondage that goes with it.
All conscious-living-breathing flesh and blood men, women and children with spirit/consciousness/soul/substance embodied are the creators of all money by their signatures. Without the creators signature the dead fictions of banking, finance, commerce, government, law, statutes, insurance wouldn't exist and without our signatures, financial institutions are unable to manufacture and release "money" (dots and digits on a computer screen) out-of-thin-air and enter this fictitious commerce into the fictitious money supply that is the commerce of the fictitious Western World Civilisation. Time to walk away from the dead world and return to creation where we smell the flowers and listen to the birds. If we don't do this now we will very shortly go beyond the point of total recall, destroying everything of creation until there is absolutely nothing left of us to remember who we really are.
All The Best
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
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13th January 2009
Chris F wrote:
For Arthur @ Love For Life Campaign
G'day again Mr. C...
THANKS for this: 12th January 2009
Arthur - by far the most detailed explanation of 'where you're coming from'.
The ONLY query I have - the folks you say are "terrorists" appear to be paying Fiona $1,200 a fortnight in 'allowances' - yes ?
So much for 'self-sufficiency'.
Take care down there - and happy, if not prosperous, New Year
Chris F
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12th January 2009
Hi xxxxxxxxx
Yes these postings are on the website but are sanitised. http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6193#comment-988 Its important that we all bear our hearts of truth so we can all learn from each others mistakes. We don't have anyone else to help us. The safest place to be is right out in the open for all to see and that is exactly where we have been since the bullshit ATO (Australian Taxation office) & Macquarie Bank/Perpetual Limited bank-fraud terrorist attacks against The Cristian Family began in 2005.
We made a pact until death do us part, that nothing will stop us to get to the bottom of this terrorist attack and expose who is responsible, regardless how many are incriminated by association to this crime syndicate during the process of our discovery. Little did we know that we were expanding consciousness and changing our lives beyond anything we could possibly comprehend back at the time when forging our bonds with this heartfelt pact. We have been close to destitution and being penniless for 2 years now after our 2 businesses were destroyed, our cash-flow taken away from us, the family home stolen, (total of $1.5 mill) leaving us with just 2 old cars and household furniture to care for our 4 young daughters.
We also discovered there was no "community immunity" in place to protect us during these awful terrorist attacks by everyone involved, directly or indirectly, as in "The Queen QE11/"The Crown", The Governor General/s, the New South Wales State Governor/s, the Federal, State and Local politicians, the Supreme Court judges, registrars, barristers, lawyers, law-firms, the public servants and bureaucrats who work for all government departments or institutions (as in ASIC, Fair Trading, Ombudsmans etc etc including ATO, NSW Supreme Court etc etc), the media barons and their lackeys involved in the erected wall of silence and the banksters who also participated in said piracy, etc etc, so part of our dream (pact) was to restore "community immunity" so everyone is protected from such terrorist attacks occurring again. Hence the creation of our dream of Do No Harm Communities/Kindoms then reinforced by Anastasia when we received the first six Ringing Cedars books as gifts in July/Aug 2007.
Bar Fiona receiving her strawman/agent-in-commerce Centerlink Parenting payments of $1200.00 per fortnight to cover fortnightly rent of $580.00, feed our 4 young daughters, clothe them, pay for petrol and all our other bills etc etc, you can clearly see we have been operating for 2 years on an almost dry oily rag but nothing will stop us from fulfilling the complete collapse and destruction of each and every system used by the terrorist organisation/crime syndicate to harm the Cristian family. Lately financial gifts have come our way which has helped us to improve and speed up our ability to reach tens of millions of sleeping sheeple, soon to be hundreds of millions before the arseholes try to shut down the internet or at least black-list the Love For Life Website but by then it will be too late because any action taken against us will be seen by millions as a validation of everything we personally state in the Love For Life website as truth.
As it stands, Tens of thousands of new browsers visit the Love For Life website every week and have been doing so for at least 6 months now, so we already know that millions know about us, are aware of what is going on. At the heart (soul) of our work is the awakening process involved in overcoming SELF-CENTEREDNESS because self-centeredness is the greatest evil befallen MAN of all evils. Self-centerdness is the reason (the cause) of MANS falling from the Garden of Eden (Consciousness) into almost everyone's present state of un-consciousness (HELL).
Much of our work can be gleamed from all these postings here:
THE WAY by Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 9th August 2008: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5231
IT IS VERY EASY TO TELL THE TRUTH FROM ALL LIES - THERE ARE SO MANY LIES TO POINT OUT + The Earths Fever by Arthur Cristian 7th January 2009: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6193
Summary Of The New Booklet Life is for the Living – The True Steps of Freedom By Arthur and Fiona Cristian 19th May 2008: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/4651
What Are We Waiting For? By Fiona And Arthur Cristian 25th July 2008: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5147
Welcome To KINDOM - A Do No Harm Community Of Conscious Creators - Truly Free - No Beliefs - No Ownership, Located in the Southern Highlands of NSW Australia, around 80 to 90 minutes drive South/West from Sydney: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5204
The Ten Steps (Not Commandments) Of Kindom by Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life 23rd October 2008: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5788
The Way Out by Fiona Cristian 30th July 2008 - Taken From Fiona Cristian Email Replies: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5203
WHAT'S YOUR INTENT? - Escapees From The Western World "Civilisation" by Arthur & Fiona Cristian 18th September 2008: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5542
THE DECEPTION OF CAESAR by Arthur & Fiona Cristian 28th September 2008: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5581
Recognising The Distinction Between Information That Is CREATION & Knowledge That Is FICTION Is Critical To Reclaiming Freedom by Arthur Cristian 13th July 2008: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5079
Prelude To Our Next Article "The Substance Of Creation & Conscious-Living DNA" By Arthur & Fiona Cristian - To Be Posted Shortly 12th September 2008: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5505
Sophistry: Terence Malaher "The Christ" Is Not A Dream, He Is A Claim by Arthur Cristian 16th October 2008: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5741
THE PARABLE OF THE DISTRACTED SUN by Arthur Cristian 18th October 2008: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5744
Prelude To Next Article "Whose Dream Are You Dreaming? The Clearly Defined Distinction Between Creation (MAN) & Civilisation By Arthur Cristian 19th November 2008: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5946
Australia To Implement Mandatory Internet Censorship from Herald Sun Australia 29th October 2008: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5852
The Georgia Guidestones - Another Gateway Into The New World Order/New Civilisation Enclosure For The Sheeple by Arthur Cristian: 21st November 2008: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5958
I Am Kryon Of Magnetic Service - Another Example Of The James Bond Syndrome - Don't Worry, Just Relax, Rescue is At Hand by Arthur Cristian: 13th December 2008: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/6105
All Read Write Alphabet Languages Are Crafted Out Of Black-Magic by Arthur Cristian: 13th December 2008: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/6104#comment-902
Nostradamus On-Line, World War III Predictions Revealed. Yes, If We Create It - Learn How All Prophecies Are Self-Fulfilling by Arthur Cristian:14th December 2008: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/6111
Global Financial Crisis An Act Of God Says Labor MP Bidgood. A discussion with Col, Brett, Mark, Andrew, Terence & Arthur Cristian: Between the 2nd and 10th December 2008: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/6116
Removing Self-Centredness From The Bible Brings Us To The Truth by Arthur Cristian 21st December 2008: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6146
Declaration Of Conscious-Creators by Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Used To Serve On Any Copyright 3rd Party Contractor/Administrator: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/6043
Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office 17th October 2008 - Part One: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5742
Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office Part Two - Today, A Standoff Between Us & 4 Sheriff Officers & 4 Policeman: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6135
Why Waste Your Time On The Fiction? The Black Magic Drivel That Is Intellectual Proprietary Knowledge "On Offer" By Arthur Cristian 1st September 2008: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5424
The Demons Of Caught (Court) - The Rule Of Law - Email Reply From Arthur Cristian To Edward 23rd June 2008 - Updated 29/06/2008: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/4935
Corporation Australia - February 2007 by Arthur & Fiona Cristian: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/67
The Original Love For Life Flier Page released March/April 2007 by Arthur & Fiona Cristian (Now Outdated But Still Provides Very Important Information For Researchers: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/flier
MAN-MADE UFO's In Preparation For MAN-MADE Alien Invasion by Arthur Cristian: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5193
WE CREATE WHAT WE FOCUS ON by Arthur Cristian + A Comment By Fiona Cristian About "OWNERSHIP": http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5174
The Proven Lies That Are Found In This Article: The Truth About Orion "Lizards" by Roger Kerr: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5128
The Dalai Lama Says Don't Worry About The State Of The World, Just Focus On Your Peace Within by Arthur Cristian: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5110
The CON Of Being Sovereign And Being A Freeman by Arthur Cristian: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5086
There Is No Money - Money Does Not Exist And Has Never Existed - Lyndon LaRouche Peddles Lies Underneath His Economic Remedies: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5085
Video & Website: July 17th Full Moon - Something Extraordinary Happening by Dattatreya Siva Baba + Comments By Arthur Cristian: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5077
STATEMENT OF TRUTH - And A Challenge By Arthur Cristian To The Writer And Believers Of This Document - "Prove That It Is True": http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5160
SPACE.com - European Team Discovers New Alien World - And There Is Peace On Earth Hallelujah, A Comment From Arthur Cristian: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5161
Video: Space Gate - Ultra Top Secret UFO Program - 10 Minutes + Comment From Arthur Cristian: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5221
Laus Deo: These Latin Words Are Found Atop The Washington Obelisk Monument - What Do They Really Mean? by Arthur Cristian: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5222
And The Well Armed Meek Shall Inherit The Earth by Raymond Karczewski, Email Correspondence With Arthur Cristian & Others 13th July 2008 PART 1: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5130
And The Well Armed Meek Shall Inherit The Earth by Raymond Karczewski, Email Correspondence With Arthur Cristian & Others 19th July 2008 PART 2: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5131
And The Well Armed Meek Shall Inherit The Earth by Raymond Karczewski, Email Correspondence With Arthur Cristian & Others 19th July 2008 PART 3: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5134
And The Well Armed Meek Shall Inherit The Earth by Raymond Karczewski, Email Correspondence With Arthur Cristian & Others 21st July 2008 PART 4: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5136
And The Well Armed Meek Shall Inherit The Earth by Raymond Karczewski, Email Correspondence With Arthur Cristian & Others 21st July 2008 PART 5: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5137
And The Well Armed Meek Shall Inherit The Earth by Raymond Karczewski, Email Correspondence With Arthur Cristian & Others 23rd July 2008 PART 6: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5140
A Discussion With Raymond Karczewski About Fiction (Unconsciousness - The Dead), Creation (Consciousness - The Living) & Kindoms During June 2008: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/4862
The Power Of Using Do No Harm In Any Court Of Law or With Any Law Enforcing Officer By Arthur Cristian 29th October 2007: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/1383
View Many Other Postings From Arthur Cristian Here: http://loveforlife.com.au/arthur_cristian
The basic story of what happened to us including naming the names of those responsible can be found here: NSW Supreme Court Case: http://loveforlife.com.au/court_case
As you can see we won't stop until this evil and those who support it have been put to rest. Even if they killed us, nothing will stop what has been unleashed "TRUTH". Based on the mountains of emails we receive every week from the awakening sheeple, many will come in our name (community immunity - Do No Harm Communities/Kindoms) and continue co-creating them. The end of the establishment is near and is inevitable. Its now there choice as to which way they want to depart from the scene, quietly and peacefully or putting up a great big fight, but either way, "It's all over folks", their 10,000 year reign of terror (mind-control) has ended.
I look forward to hearing from you again xxxxxxxxx
Conscious Love Always
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
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12th January 2009
Hi Arthur.
Thank you for your response. I will take the time to respond after I have reread and thoroughly thought out my feelings.
I noticed that my private response to you went to many and might even be on your website. I intended for this conversation to be between you, me, and Fiona and would appreciate keeping it this way so if my response is on your website at least change my name. I would appreciate that very much.
Family is extremely important to me as I'm already once divorced with a child from that first marriage. I want to love him and he to love me and for him to want to create kindom for our children, but I have erred (as so has he again and again) and I can't figure out how to fix my mistake.
Thank you for taking the time to respond so generously with your time and thoughts and heart. I will get more personal but again I ask that it just be between the 3 of us.
IN Light,
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12th January 2009
You are beautiful too xxxxxxxxxxx.
The challenge now is to not allow the temptation of self-centerdness to get in the way of your marriage (your co-creation of creation). You both co-created your children, regardless if either of you were conscious or not of this fact. Your children and their bonds with their father are of a far greater importance than your present yearning for a Kin Domain. Were both of you already deteriorated to create a relationship that is deteriorated? Was the deterioration the attraction to creating your deteriorating relationship in the first instance? Or did the deterioration come along later on after the love created between you created the relationship (the bonds/the marriage) between you, and if so, why are you both deteriorating the bonds of love that brought you both together as co-creators of this family?
What has happened to the love that brought you both together in the first instance? Is it in hiding? or on holidays? Where is it? Did it just vanish? or is it being ignored because you both equally have better things to do with your lives than concern yourselves with your love, your creation of marriage? Meaning, you can't be bothered about your marriage/ties/bonds co-created as your family, instead you have better things to do with your life now like Kin-Domains? ............. Stuff my family,....... my, my, my, my, my, my, my, i, i, i, i, i, i, self-centered kin-domain is far more important.
Hey, its ok to just destroy the bonds you create if it suits you,...... gees everyone else is doing it,...... Hey... its the done thing these days. ..... So why can't I? ..... Every marriage has a back-door ....... Look, I have plenty of evidence to justify why I can do it (sabotage) as well. ......... Who gives a stuff about love,....... my self-centeredness is far more important. ......
Shit,..... If I don't do what almost everyone else is doing out there, I will stand out from the herd of chaos as being strange, uncool and a freak. I've got to fit in with the herd of chaos, fit in with what everyone else is doing out there otherwise there will be many consequences! The peer pressure will be much too much for me to handle. I will be left ostracised from the herd of chaos, I will be ridiculed, rejected, back-stabbed by the herd of chaos. Who will love me, protect me, if the herd of chaos does not want me to be part of their herd of chaos anymore?
If only the members of this global herd of chaos stopped for a moment and took a very good look at themselves and the state of the global world of chaos they are creating for themselves of their own doing, of their own free-will.
If you accept this advice given freely, you need to now meditate and observe on how you can awaken (inspire) your partner to the calling that is Kindom without shoving it down his throat.
But to do this you need to awaken the love that is the consciousness (information) required to inspire him with it.
And how can you create this information of love (a body of consciousness called xxxxxxxxxxx) if you are not creating this body (love) of MAN?
If you ain't got the love (the body of life) to love him with, well then who is going to love him, and you, and your children, and their bonds between you and each other (your co-creation of family), if you stop loving him? Where is the love coming from to aid your family if you are not creating it? Who else is creating the love here and now for your family if you are not creating it? And if you are not creating love then how will your husband become acquainted with love? If love is barren in your home would not your husband be barren of love as well? Yes, this goes visa-versa as well.
The children and this relationship exist because you existed to co-create it with them but where does this leave them (your relationship - your family) if you pull out the back-door?
What would happen if the Sun decided it wanted a break, was working too hard, that things were not working out the way the sun wanted it, was offered a holiday weekend tea-party at galaxy 97 and turned around to all in relationship to itself saying....... "Hi guys,..... Look I need a break,..... I have had enough,.... I am tired and I have been offered a wonderful opportunity to go to a tea party at galaxy 97, one hundred thousand light years away, with other suns for this weekend, but I will be back first thing Monday morning!" ............. "See you all then .......... byeeeeeeee ... and off went the sun until there was no trace of it anymore.........
What happens to everything in relationship to the sun xxxxxxxxxxx?
What love is left for the sun to love if the sun destroyed everything it was part of......... its family?
And what love has the sun got left to love itself and exist?
How can the Sun exist if it ain't creating acts of love to benefit its family (creation)?
How can the sun exist without a family who loves (serves) the family?
How can the sun bounce back love if there ain't no love to bounce back?
What becomes of the sun if there ain't no love created for the sun to bounce back?
How can the family exist without each member of the family co-creating the family?
And how can each member of the family exist as family if members of the family just opted out for something better to do with their lives?
I'll say it again... If you ain't got the love (the body of life) to love him with, well then who is going to love him, and you, and your children, and their bonds between you and each other (your co-creation of family), if you stop loving him? What becomes of you and your creation of family?
If you destroy the family you have been destroyed as well. You sever the ties and your ties are severed. Are you aware of this? Let me assure you that hundreds of millions of cocky Westerners destroying their families by opting out for self-centered reasons have no family to continue on with once their tool of creation (physical body) has permanently laid down to rest. The families we create are the families we continue on with but when we destroy them we ain't got no family to continue on with .
Every living life-form of creation, inanimate or not, are acts of love - creators of love, freely creating love to create (serve) its family.
The image of our family (creation) are the acts of love we have created that comes bouncing back to us in the image of the family we love (serve). If we are not creating any acts of love there is nothing being created as in the members of our family (the image of our family) to bounce back the love we have created back to us. All of creation (family) is just a mirror of our love bouncing back at us but when we stop creating acts of love to serve our family (creation), the mirror of our creation of love fades away because there is now no longer any image of love to bounce back at us.
So what becomes of us if we have created nothing of love? If we all just continued to opt out through back doors whenever it suited us? To continue destroying our family (creation) whenever and however it suited us? To keep pointing the finger of our blame at whoever or whatever, regardless of subject or issue, which stops us creating acts of love (taking responsibility) to heal the damage we continue to create while we continue pointing our fingers of blame? How can our efforts of blame heal those we blame for whatever we blame them for? If your child set himself/herself on fire do you point the finger of blame at your child while your child continues to burn or do you put out the fire?
How lonely, isolated and destroyed do we become without love? No birds singing, no waves rolling in with the tide, no children laughing and playing, no sunshine, no breezes, no rainfall, no rivers running, no rain-forests, no family, no soul. Just wars, chaos, social unrest, broken families, poverty, starvation, malnutrition, homelessness, disease, sickness etc. When does all this end? It all ends when we start creating acts of love to serve creation instead of being possessed/obsessed with our self-centered interests.
Without serving the families we have already created (which includes earth) they will die "in our image" (meaning we are dead as well) and without our families how can we create the MAN we are creating. (Please refer to this posting for further explanation on creating MAN: IT IS VERY EASY TO TELL THE TRUTH FROM ALL LIES by Arthur Cristian - Love For Life 7th January 2009: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6135#comment-985
Your creation of love is what counts not your physical needs and where the body should reside or with who it should be part of. Its better to be killed in a tsunami with your husband and children creating acts of love between each other than be living in a Kin Domain at the cost of destroying all the bonds (love) your children have with their father including all the bonds between each of you.
Its love that matters and love is all about creating acts of love which serves creation, and in the acts of love you create, you are creating the MAN in the image of who you really are! But what are you creating for the MAN you are supposed to create when you take the children away from their father and allow the festering of all these self-centered emotions to linger? Have you really taken the time to observe the chaotic state of the world we all live in today and why this chaos exists, what is causing this chaos to exist and who is responsible for creating this chaos?
WHO ARE YOU?
WHAT ARE YOU?
I see many a space cadet pass through our doors and they are beyond total recall because all they think about is me me me me me i, i, i, i, i, i, they don't see creation (family) all around them because there not part of creation (family) anymore to be able to feel it and see it!! Its only those who serve creation (family) who have the true eyes to feel and see creation (family).
You now have the opportunity to challenge the deterioration of your marriage (family) and rescue it from its ruin. The reward being the creation of MAN, who you really are, that being a servant of love, a servant of creation (your family).
So I suggest that you use your brilliant brain and put it in to practise.
If a MAN without arms can use his brain to work our how he can play Let It Be on an acoustic guitar "powerfully" with just his toes/feet: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=RiDoYIflqAY what do you think you can do for your marriage (family) xxxxxxxxxxx if you used your brain and tacked all the issues you have with your co-creating partner?
If you take this advice the right way then you will feel the true love I have for you and for your family, because you are my family, and I do not want you destroying my family that my children are part of. Its time for everyone to stop coping out and start using their brains to work out all their problems without destroying the family that created them and to which they are part of.
Let me assure you that Fiona and I will never be party to the destruction of any family just because we want them to join the Kindom we are creating, meaning we want their money, their labour, their company etc etc to help create our success of Kindom and have us look good, come up smelling like roses, in the image of how we want others to see us. We would rather live without a Kindom, be on our own, if it meant that we were not providing or supporting a get-out-clause which destroys families for whatever reason. When it comes to the destruction of families, Kindom is just not that precious to us. No money or backers or supporters, regardless how big the temptation, will ever come between us and the ruin of any family. You will not see any family destruction mementoes on our mantle piece.
Existing families come first then comes Kindoms. We feel sorry for every Kindom that is being presently co-created out of the carnage of family and relationship destruction because it will all come bouncing back at them in the image of their creation, of their own doing.
Can you now see (feel) how great the responsibility we all have to care for each other which pulls us all out of this horrific chaotic state of self-destruction which is currently a very fast downhill slide into hell. We can undo everything we have created that is presently going wrong in our lives because the experience of hell is of our own doing just as the creation of love (remedy) is of our own doing as well.
Conscious Love Always
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
action@loveforlife.com.au
www.loveforlife.com.au
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11th January 2009 11.51am
xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Hi Christian. If I truly understood that I am creator I would not need to believe in my healing abilities and therefore set this truth free because truth always IS and therefore always free and I am the only one causing its incarceration. I, as creator, am also truth, and therefore free, and not a separate part of creation in any way. Now, I know this to be true yet am not able to fully apply to my life yet. My beliefs still get in the way. (Although I read your article in full I didn't quote you because the thought above came first and I quickly wanted to get it down.)
I "saw" the penny drop and since I didn't put my thoughts to words right away I lost it but I think I still have the gist of it. Having to jump 10 feet across the room to get my next breath of air depends on what I know and I know that the air exists because I exist and I exist because the air does, therefore, my answer is, no.
My plans are to create my Space of Love in Ukerbarley where Chris Cole and Radha are intending to create their kindoms as well, so I'm certain that one day we will meet and our children will play together....hopefully nicely as sharing is always an issue with mine.
I understand what you mean about the english language but isn't it more important that what we think and feel when we say a certain word is what is more important? I used to be able to say hello without a problem but then when someone pointed out that the word hell is in there I have difficulty using it now. If this wouldn't have been pointed out and my thoughts and feelings remained good about the word hello then how could I use it with harm regardless of perhaps the malicious intent with this word? If I were to use only living words I would hardly speak. LOL
I have learned from reading Anastasia that our current living system is founded on lies and therefore EVERYTHING that we live is a lie. When I became aware of that and understood that it was more amazing that I was not exaggerating in my summation of EVERYTHING! This was very liberating.
Now if I could only project what I know and love, but I'm afraid that my ever deteriorating marriage (yes the truth is painful and I am ALONE on this road) gives me much heartache as I become aware more and more the divergent paths that my husband and I are on. He has seen the picture of Ukerbarley and has no intentions in "going to the middle of nowhere" as he has put it. He read the first 7 chapters of the first book, Anastasia, and said the writing was awful and that he didn't "believe" in it. I no longer love him and with small children to keep in mind and heart, doesn't make it any easier. Sorry, for getting so personal, but I tend to be very open with my heart.
You have a beautiful family and may the families of paradise bring infinite joy.
In Peace,
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On Wed, 1/7/09, Love For Life Campaign action @ loveforlife.com.au wrote:
From: Love For Life Campaign <
Subject: Re: [Campaign] IT IS VERY EASY TO TELL THE TRUTH FROM ALL LIES - THERE ARE SO MANY LIES TO POINT OUT + The Earth's Fever
To: xxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 10:25 AM
Hi xxxxxxxxxxx
Its great to meet someone using their brain. The answer is already found in the lower part body of the article. See if you can find it."work it out"!
Here is another one for you.... Do you have to jump 10 feet across a room to grab your next breath of air????
Now please do not read on, please meditate on this, contemplate deeply and when the penny drops, then read on or leave reading the rest until the penny drops.
Hey, you can do whatever you like, your free woman using her brain, nothing can stop you can it??????
Even Anastasia makes mistakes, gets things wrong in terms of the bigger picture but her sincerity and purity of heart backing her intent created a beautiful truthful perception of the truth as you presented in your reply, however as we expand consciousness (returning from our fallen state) we come to be that we no longer require any belief as she found out when she no longer required Gods help after the final attack by arsehole Satan. She is MAN, the full embodiment of the creator, there is no longer any separation between her consciousness and the creator's consciousness.
Remember the creator that we are is omnipotent, omniscient & omnipresent... so where does belief fit in to all of this????????
You see belief is still a state of separation and that is where Mary was at.
We are always the creator creating whatever state of consciousness we focus on at any given moment of our fall from consciousness or during our return from a state of unconsciousness as some of us are presently doing.
Junior Vladimir being directly connected with creation with no 3rd party intermeddler interloper interceding and with Anastasia expanding consciousness faster than the speed of anything bar the creators feelings (pure unadulterated perfection) where nothing needs to be set free because it already IS, little Vlady boy is catching up to mum real fast and will probably rocket past her if that is his intent. Now he couldn't do this if we were his parents living in civilisation!!!!
Horses for courses dear xxxxxxxxxxx but there comes a time when we rip up the courses because life itself is the course without being one/having one. Do you comprehend?
Has the penny dropped yet?????? "Do you have to jump 10 feet across a room to grab your next breath of air????"
Also, let me know if you found the answer in the lower part body of the article.
I am off to bed its 2.35am and I have to be up again soon or should I say the kids will wake me up.
Look forward to meeting you one day
Love Arthur
ps: Watch out for all read and write alphabet languages because 99.999% of the total global population could not read and write alphabet languages until between 1780 & 1930. Meaning the ancestors of today's supposed 6.5 billion going back 10,0000 years + + + never-ever-had anything to do with recording any his-story because they could not read or write any alphabet language. So guess what, who did?????? and do you think they were biased????? and can you trust them when you realise who they were???? Please read all my other postings and learn about all this. VIP in unravelling all the scams. There are things Anastasia has not really dabbled in or did but Senior Vladimir had problems getting the information across exactly how Anastasia presented it.
As I often say don't trust his-story
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8th January 2009 1.20am
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Greetings Arthur and Fiona. I have a question regarding belief. While I understand what you're saying and when I think logically in my personal life that I don't necessarily need to believe in something in order for it to exist or happen, I also entertain that to "believe" in something that may warrant my awareness so as to allow the truth to be set free is also necessary. Now what do I mean by that? Well, if I don't believe that I have the ability to heal myself or others then how will I become aware of that natural ability and allow this truth to be set free. Even Anastasia talks about belief. One particular part I remember is when she tells Vladimir that what happened to Mary, the mother of Jesus, could not have happened if she didn't believe. (Are you familiar with the book Talmud of Jmmanuel? This book about Jesus' teaching, whose real name is Jmmanuel, was written while he was alive and by his so-called betrayer Judas Iscariot. Here his message isn't one of love as is popular belief today, but of truth. Big difference) Didn't mean to side-track but felt it was important to mention that.
I know you guys are busy, and I'm in no rush, but whenever you can share a bit more insight I would appreciate it. I am always sceptical about those ideas that become very popular. They're usually distorted and I'm finding that today "belief" has the spotlight. And like I said, I have found in my personal life that I don't necessarily have to believe that something works in order for it to work and I suppose that when it doesn't work, therein is the lie exposed.
The truth shall set you free. (that statement could probably fill volumes)
In Peace,
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On Wed, 1/7/09, Love For Life Campaign action loveforlife.com.au wrote:
From: Love For Life Campaign
Subject: [Campaign] IT IS VERY EASY TO TELL THE TRUTH FROM ALL LIES - THERE ARE SO MANY LIES TO POINT OUT + The Earth's Fever
To: "Love For Life Mailing List"
Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 8:03 AM
Announcement: A Calling For The Co-Creation Of A New Ringing Cedars Kindom At Coonabarabran NSW: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6104
Full contact details for Chris and Radha can be found with link provided. They have found 3,800 acres of absolutely stunning land - Check the photos.
IT IS VERY EASY TO TELL THE TRUTH FROM ALL LIES
by Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
7th January 2009
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6135
and
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6135#comment-985
THERE ARE SO MANY LIES TO POINT OUT
Note: Updated Wednesday 17th June 2009 8.00pm Sydney Time. Love For Life does not support harm doing in any shape or form. However, we are supporters of free speech and post articles, documentaries, etc, that represent a wide cross section of ideas. See the Love For Life extensive research library where over 6000 documents, articles and videos are posted: http://loveforlife.com.au/issues. We clearly see the evidence of the destruction to MAN and the earth that has been caused by ALL religions over the centuries and are therefore not supporters of religions, cults, sects or any group that demands conformity of thought, speech or action, or has rules, regulations or rituals that must be followed. Religions, nationalities and cultural "identities" are formed as a result of the brainwashing we receive from childhood. They are part of the tactics the Establishment uses to keep us all divided from one another and fighting one another.
All religions promote discrimination and division, leading to hatred and even violence and murder. None of them have yet to produce a remedy to all the suffering, poverty, unhappiness and discrimination in the world. If any religion truly had the remedy to all the suffering on earth, there would no longer be any suffering. What have Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, atheism and the New Age done to end the suffering in the world?
The Love For Life website has information from all sides on many subjects, whether about Islam, Judaism, Christianity, Law, health, psychology, mind control, vaccination, aspartame, MSG, Chemtrails etc. There are over 6000 articles, documentaries etc on the website and they are so diverse that we are sure that everyone would be able to find something they loved and something they hated, if they took the time to search. If we removed all the articles hated by everyone, there would probably be nothing left! We are not anti anyone but freedom of speech is freedom of speech and no one should condemn the work of another without taking the time to research the subject themselves. Yes, there are articles by those who have a less-than-rosy-viewpoint of Judaism, but there are also articles on the dark side of Tibetan Buddhism (and it is very dark) for those who are interested in the truth: Tibet - Buddhism - Dalai Lama: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6271 Should the authors of these articles be abused and imprisoned for daring to challenge the widely conceived reputation of Buddhism as being the religion of peace and love and that of the Dalai Lama as a saint, or should those interested be allowed to study the work and come to their own conclusions? The same applies to all the articles, documentaries, etc, about Christianity, Islam, Freemasonry, New World Order, etc.
The Love for Life website also shows how the Rule of Law, the Bar, the Government, the Monarchy, the system of commerce, the local, national and multi/trans-national private corporations, all the courses and careers on offer from our universities, all the educators, scientists, academics and experts, the aristocrats and the Establishment bloodlines have also done NOTHING to end the suffering in the world. The website maps the insanity of a world where there is no help for those in need, just as there was no help available for us when we were victims of terrible bank fraud: http://loveforlife.com.au/court_case (orchestrated, condoned and protected by an international crime syndicate/terrorist organisation of judges, barristers, registrars, lawyers, politicians, banksters, big business representatives, media moguls and other lackeys who, all together, put up a wall of silence despite our trying many, many avenues. After the family home was stolen and business destroyed we were left close to poverty and destitution caring for 4 young daughters. Three years later not much has changed regardless of all our efforts. Where were all the followers of all the religions to help us? Or do we have to be members of those religions to receive help from others involved in them?
We have been accused of being anti - Jewish because we had posted an excerpt from James von Brun's book: Kill the Best Gentiles! http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6054 in which he blames Jews for the problems of the world. Obviously this is not our view because of what we have stated above. We do not hate anyone, whatever religion they follow. We are always open to talk to any religious leader or politician and meet with any judge, member of the Bar, experts, academics, educators etc to share the remedy we offer that heals all the divisions between MAN and MAN, and MAN and the EARTH.
Today, a representative of the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies is threatening to close the website down, because they have decided it is anti - Jewish and that we promote racism. What has the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies done to end the suffering in the world? Can they show that they are concerned with the suffering of ALL men, women and children AND ARE SEEN TO BE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT or are they only concerned with Jewish affairs? If so, they, along with all the other religions that only care for their own, are part of the problem, not part of the solution. The man who rang Arthur today was only concerned with Jewish affairs; he was not interested in our intentions or in anybody else, just as most Christians, Muslims, Sikhs, Catholics, etc, are only interested in their own. While we separate ourselves into groups, dividing ourselves from others with rules, regulations, rituals, procedures and conditions, we will never solve our problems.
No matter what we in the Western World Civilisation of Commerce have been promised by our politicians, religious leaders, scientists, educators, philosophers, etc, for the past two hundred years, all we have seen is ever-increasing destruction of men, women and children and the earth. None of the so-called experts and leaders we have been taught to rely on are coming up with a solution and none of them are taking full-responsibility for the fact that they can't handle the problem. All religious books talk about end times full of destruction and suffering but why do we have to follow this program when there is an alternative to hatred, mayhem and death? Why are our leaders following the program of destruction and death rather than exploring the alternatives? It seems that any mainstream politician, priest or academic are only interested in supporting the RULES OF THE DIVIDE, that maintain the haves and the have nots. For 200+ years, 99% of the world population have been so trained to pass on their responsibility for themselves, others and the earth, that the 1% of the population that make up the leaders of the rest of us are making all the decisions leading to the destruction of all of us and the earth. Let's not forget the education system that brainwashes the 99% of the population that we are free and have equal rights while, in fact, we are feathering the nests of those at the top.
At the root of all our problems is self-centredness, an unwillingness nurtured by the Establishment that keeps us concerned only with our own needs rather than the needs of others around us and the Earth. Instead of creating and releasing acts of love for those around us as gifts to benefit them and the earth, we take, take and take, until there is nothing left. The whole point of the Love for Life website is to show people the root of all our problems and to share the remedy. The extensive research library is there to attract browsers and to provide access to information not available through mainstream channels. If the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies can, after careful examination of our work, prove that anything we are saying is wrong, we will be happy to accept their proof. If they cannot, and they are still insistent on closing the website down, they will be showing themselves to be traitors to MAN because they are not interested in pursuing any avenue that can end the suffering in the world.
All religions, corporations and organisations that support and maintain the Western World Civilisation of Commerce are part of the problem because our civilisation is a world of haves and have nots, racism, violence, hatred, poverty, sickness, discrimination, abuse, starvation, homelessness, corruption, collusion, vindictiveness, social unrest, arrogance, ignorance, fear, war and chaos. While we support civilisation, we support death and destruction because ALL civilisations that have ever existed are apocalyptic by design.
If we truly want peace on earth and freedom for all, we have to let go of all that which keeps us divided, and come together as MAN, conscious living co-creators of creation. The Love For Life website offers a remedy to the problems we all face in the form of DO NO HARM COMMUNITIES: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3641 For more details see here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6511 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 - We also highly recommend that everyone read the brilliant Russian books called The Ringing Cedars: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1125 - The Love For Life homepage/front-page also provides lots of inspiring remedy based information: http://loveforlife.com.au - If you want to be kept up to date with our work please register to the Love For Life mailing list here: http://loveforlife.com.au/campaign_list We usually send two postings per month. Presently there are over 5000 registrations reaching over 200,000 readers globally. The website now receives over 2 million strikes per month with June 2009 heading close to (or over) 3 million strikes.
Conscious Love Always
Arthur and Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
17th June 2009
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PLASTIC BARBIE PLASTIC KEN & THE CONSCIOUSNESS OF RESPONSIBILITY
PLASTIC BARBIE PLASTIC KEN AND THE CONSCIOUSNESS OF RESPONSIBILITY
By Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
18th January 2009
Hi Jean
We wrote this article WHAT'S YOUR INTENT? - Escapees From The Western World "Civilisation" (link below) back in September 2008, it explains one of the many reasons why we are staying put in the Southern Highlands, to be in/of service to 6 million sheeple between Newcastle and Nowra, to inspire as many as we can to fix all the damage we each have caused during the time of being one of the sheeple destroying creation left, right and center.
It means not passing the buck.
It means not copping out of our RESPONSIBILITIES for all the damage we have caused and supported while being unconscious.
It means not running away from the responsibility of all the mess we have created for others to clean up, out of sight out of mind, others including Earth/Nature and the Creator.
When one truly (fully) awakens out of the fiction he/she no longer is an individual meaning he/she no longer OWNS anything, has no individual needs, has no me, me, me. me, i, i, i, i, i wants for an individual. No needy bank accounts, insurance policies, mortgages, foundations, trusts, economic protection, money, contracts etc because their bonds with creation provides them already with everything they need.
A TRUE FREE MAN / FREE WOMAN IS A CONSCIOUS-LIVING CO-CREATOR
He/she is a conscious-living co-creator, creating acts of love (substance) in service to others as a team-player. Conscious-living team-players co-creating acts of love (substance) for the benefit of others here and now is what creation is. A true freeman does not have to worry about maintaining his freedom. All his needs are provided for by creation and all his time can be spent in service to creation.
If the team-players stopped serving creation, the lights (the stars/the sun) are turned off.
We live because the life-forms of creation live their lives for us.
Observe how Anastasia lives; she lives all her waking time for creation, in service for the total benefit of others (creation), including caring for her body without owning it. She sees her body as an instrument of co-creation so she makes sure her body is in perfect health in order to meet the intent of her dreams as a conscious-living co-creator of creation. Her caring for her body takes no more than 1% (possibly more like .003%) of her waking time each day (compliments of a simple pure and sincere living/raw food diet/lifestyle) which frees her up to be a full on conscious-living co-creator.
She has not created an individual Anastasia to care for
that keeps her busy maintaining an Anastasia that is separated from creation
and if she did she would be too busy being an individual
to have anytime to be of service to creation.
Refer to the short Parable The Parable Of The Distracted Sun: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5744
TAKE CARE OF LOVE AND LOVE TAKES CARE OF EVERYTHING ELSE
As Fiona and I have been saying for many years now: "Take Care Of Love And Love Takes Care Of Everything Else".
Love is an act of creation (creating substance) and for love to be an act of creation the act (the substance) must be set free for the benefit of others otherwise the act is not an act of love.
We were never meant to own anything, instead we were meant to be conscious-living caretakers/stewards/team-players of creation.
If you hold on to (own) your last breath, drink, meal without letting go, you DIE (fall from consciousness into a dead state of unconsciousness). What do you think happens when we own (don't set free) feelings or thoughts or ideas or deeds or knowledge as in history or whatever is copyrighted or beliefs or individual or creatures/animals or land or assets or children etc etc ??????
The fact that we don't have to dive ten feet across the room to grab our next breath shows the power of creation - the air has been provided for us by others of creation. It is a team effort with no individualism involved.
"Take Care Of Love And Love Takes Care Of Everything Else" means "Take Care Of Your Daily Acts Of Love (creation of substance) And Your Daily Acts Of Love Takes Care Of Everything Else".
THE INDIVIDUAL THAT SEPARATES MAN FROM CREATION
How simple life (creation) is and yet how complicated life becomes when we have an individual to take care of, an individual that hangs on tightly to us like a monkey on our back, which gets in the way of our true freedom and stuffs everything up.
In the middle of the word individual is the word divid = divide = in-divide-u-all (free-masonic black-magic sacred geometry/mathematics/alphabet language mind-control, its purpose to cause MAN to separate from consciousness, to stop MAN serving creation and instead serve the fictitious person/agent-in-commerce which only benefits the copy-right holder who owns said intellectual proprietary knowledge including those in contract with the copy-right holder).
Remember, without the invention of a person (agent-in-commerce / strawman / individual), the knowledge created for the person to believe in and its signature we wouldn't have an individual to maintain and we wouldn't be separated from creation. The individual person has a lifetime of contracts, taxes, loans, debts, interest payments, rents, mortgages, obligations, pressures, bills, fees, fines, titles, licenses, registrations, certificates, permits, tolls, degrees, passports, careers, savings, investments, break-away-holidays, football teams, fashion, parties, media interest, politics, soap operas and hundreds of other interests to maintain that the living-breathing flesh and blood man or woman with spirit/soul/consciousness embodied is a slave to his/her fictitious agent-in-commerce with very little time available throughout his/her life-time to serve creation.
We are separated from creation when we are not serving creation. The Western World brainwashing agenda is specifically designed to instruct and guide victims into living their lives out of the knowledge provided for them, becoming arrogant in our insistence that this knowledge is true. Personalities are manufactured from this knowledge, artificial intelligence engineered and whole lives are constructed out of this fairytale. To be taken to the edge of the abyss and shown the reality that they have been living their whole lives out of fiction is so terrifying for most people that they are not willing to go there. The are not willing to give up their opinions, beliefs, points of view and knowledge for the sake of creation. They would prefer to continue the destruction of the earth rather than give up their fictitious lives based on knowledge.
You will be staggered by the volume of space cadets (those who are off in fiction-fantasy la la la land) who own new age, religious, cosmic/galactic, philosophical, intellectual, political, financial, legal/lawful, spiritual, historical and alternative belief systems that have them pass the buck on responsibilities because they are too busy maintaining their individual me, me, me, me, me, i, i, i, i, i and what's in it for their individual. In this state arrogance sets in real quick.
PLASTIC BARBIE PLASTIC KEN
Like children playing with Barbie and Ken Dolls, billions of Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Intellectuals and others have individuals (dolls) with fictitious images in mind that need to be cared for to look the part and act out the rolls of these synthetic personas. They dress, wash, feed, exercise, educate, nurture, protect, maintain, argue, sneer, save and rehearse over and over again these fictitious individuals so what time do they have spare to create acts of love for the benefit of creation, keeping in mind that their individual is an agent-in-commerce as well???
And then there is the "persons feelings" (Barbie and Ken do have feelings as well) and what a maintenance nightmare this can be! These emotions are the demons that plague and destroy creation and take hours/weeks/months/years of time to sort through, like wading through a stagnant pond, talking rather than doing and generally all stemming from things that have happened in the past and have nothing to do with the current situation! The quicker we can all learn to stop worrying about "poor me", stop owning what we feel and believe in, the quicker we will stop being self-centred and start living for creation.
As it is we have been trained to separate ourselves in so many ways that, to create true Kindom, we need to spend a lot of time in that mudroom (read The Ten Steps Of Kindom: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5788 ) unlearning our brainwashing. There is no point in coming to Kindom unless we are prepared to recognise that we have been brainwashed and that we need to undo that. We need to re-learn how to love one another again. How to truly be in service to others for the benefit of others every-day.
THERE ARE TWO PATHS: LIVE FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE or LIVE FOR CREATION
All individuals (Ken & Barbie) and their feelings must be dissolved otherwise the Kindoms will be destroyed.
A Kindom cannot be formed with "individuals" because they will destroy it, they will be too concerned with their own Ken and Barbie "needs"/"feelings", too attached to their Plastic Persona's to concentrate on the bigger picture of creating Kindom. Ken and Barbie are only interested in what's best/what's in it for Ken and Barbie. The Kindom should not be taking money or anything from anyone until they are sure they can give up their plastic Ken and Barbie "individualism" and are truly free to rejoin creation as conscious-living team-players.
When we are unconscious we look in (with-in) to our dead fictitious individual/person/agent-in-commerce/hu-man/Ken & Barbie characters (a man/woman unconscious of consciousness)
and
When we are conscious we are looking out (with-out) to creation, to MAN (a man/woman conscious of consciousness).
Creation exists with-out (reality) - Creation does not exist with-in (fiction). Has anyone found the within or the mind that is within or the ego that is within or the intellect that is within.
Ken and Barbie believe they exist within, they believe they have a mind, an ego, and intellect full of important precious knowledge and there very proud of it but when we go looking within for this precious Ken and Barbie substance we just can't find any mind or ego or clever intellect that belongs to Ken and Barbie. All we find is blood, guts, organs, glands, veins etc.
So where is Ken and Barbie?
And where is this within that Ken and Barbie believe in?????
Please read what I wrote about the Bullshit/Lying Dalai Lama when he said "To Find Peace In Your Environment You Must First Find Peace Within": http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5303 For those not aware of Tibet's genocide campaigns (before the Chinese got involved) and the horrific abuses of women and villagers see: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6271
THE FREE MAN STANDING LOOKING OUT TO WHOM HE/SHE SERVES
With-Out = What we can can see, touch, taste, smell/scent, feel, hear is who/what we are meant to serve
With-In = What we can't see, touch, taste, smell/scent, feel, hear is who/what we are not meant to waste our time on.
The true message of the Christ Outstretched On The Cross is THE FREE MAN STANDING LOOKING OUT TO WHOM HE/SHE SERVES
The liars and deceivers altered this message/symbol to a dying suffering, tortured, falling, impaled hu-man slave with head bowed down looking with-in to the fictitious person/agent-in-commerce/individual.
WHAT'S YOUR INTENT? - Escapees From The Western World "Civilisation" by Arthur & Fiona Cristian 18th September 2008:
http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5542
Less Is More
21st January 2009
You tend to write too much.
Less is more.
Thomas
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21st January 2009
Less is more for those trapped in the knowledge (true matrix) but more is not enough for those outside the matrix. Remember, we are talking about the worship of the intellect (knowledge) here which is the basis of all mind-control (lost in fiction). The sun shines, have you ever seen it stop shining? Your statement "less is more" is only relevant for those who live out of their intellects (in the matrix). We never shorten or edit (apart from the odd grammatical error) anyone's postings because we support freedom of speech and we publish everything relevant to the subject.
Do they want us to fit neatly into their paradigm so they don't grow beyond what they already know? Should we be fitting in with the herd? Only those still in the fiction put up barriers when it comes to freedom of information, speech, thought, etc. Those who truly want to grow with the truth are open to finding it wherever it may be, not just where they expect or hope it to be. Those not really interested in growing are those who censor and control. They prefer to fit in with the standards of the herd and reject all else.
Only those still in the fiction want to fit in with the fiction and behave the right way to be accepted by the herd. Fiona and I will not conform to the fiction, will you? By becoming them (less is more) you join them. If we write the way they do, fit in the way their brains were hard-wired by the education of fiction and the "norms" of the society that unfolds out of it what difference do we make? How do we stand out from the herd???? Is it not a compliment that we are getting plenty of reaction from the sheeple, that the sheeple are lifting their heads to notice the distraction from their grazing amongst the grass of knowledge?
Knowledge is where all the sheeple are grazing. Those that wish to remain with the sheeple will ignore people like us and our work so we don't threaten the barriers to their enclosures. They do not want to lift their heads and look over the fence to other possibilities. The freedom truth movement, including strawman/freeman/honour/dishonour/admiralty law/commerce etc is an enclosure (maze) of many enclosures (mazes) for those who don't like the fiction but it is not a remedy because they are still trapped within the fiction of knowledge. Yes we use the fiction to deal with the "norms" of the society of fiction (keep the wolves at bay) until enough sheeple have awakened and together we drift away from fiction to rejoin creation.
Until the sheeple learn to distinguish between the information that is creation and the knowledge of fiction they will always be trapped and the destruction will continue. They will fight to protect their knowledge with their stances of arrogance and or with their lives because they value their knowledge above themselves, others and the earth. This is the problem we have been facing for the last 10,000 years. The slaves are fighting to wear their manacles and protest vigorously whenever someone tries to loosen them.
The carefully crafted education we undergo, if we choose to follow through to the top, refines and hones our fictitious intellect to the point where we say "less is more" . Less is more is conditional, it is arrogance to tell one man or woman that they should only say so much or in such a way. These masters of the intellect are the leaders of the packs, the lawyers, barristers, top business men and women, politicians, judges etc, still part of the herd but at the top of the pyramids. This education, this pure knowledge, is the basis of the British Empire, and forms the backbone of the true practice of Freemasonry (worship of the intellect of knowledge). At the top they are the leaders of the herd, all grazing in the fictitious fields of fiction, therefore regardless of how brilliant their clever intellects maybe they offer no remedy to step out of the fiction. All their cleverness does nothing to solve our problems, does not offer any remedy. David Icke, Steven Spielberg, Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, Jordan Maxwell, Paul K eating, Einstein, Robert Arthur Menard, Churchill, etc etc, hundreds of thousands of brilliant intellects.... how many more of us are going to join the worship of the fiction in rebellion against creation????
I go to great trouble to point out statements like these "More Is Less" to show what is the more behind the less. I only do this because I love you and care about you and only wish the very best for you at all times. The sun shines and all is life.
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
The Golden Age - Bible Exists To Corrupt The Perfection Of MAN
The Golden Age
by Arthur Cristian
24th January 2009
[Note: Its best to read this posting from bottom up to get the synchronicity right.]
THE BIBLE EXISTS TO CORRUPT THE PERFECTION OF MAN
Correction Golden Age I never stated New Age and I know no one intends on slandering me ............... so be it Golden Age
And yes, you love to intercede Ant and I love you for it as I love Gee and many others in this awesome freedom-truth group. I have immense respect for Gee as I do many others. We are all true brothers and sisters who love life, truth, freedom, justice, fairness, prosperity, where everyone wins and no one is a loser and this includes all living things (our friends and partners in co-creation) Mike.
This is the PERFECT world Golden Age we are creating, isn't it???
Which leads me back to the tools we must use (our brains) to re-create this beautiful perfect world, fixing all the damage (imperfections) caused by the lost (the imperfect).
After what Fiona and I experienced with bank fraud and ATO collusion/corruption etc, leaving us with almost nothing, the issue that blew us away the most was not the evil ones who were raping and pillaging everything we owned and getting away with it including the crime syndicate who protects this piracy, but the dead asleep family members, our friends, our neighbours, and the community at large, everywhere we turned ......
THEY WERE ALL ASLEEP.... (dead-asleep) bar a tiny few who rolled there sleeves up and came into our lives to help us like John Wilson & Joe Bryant.
There was/is no "COMMUNITY IMMUNITY" and this shock (revelation) awoke us from our deep sleep and there and then (2005) we set a goal/created a dream to restore "community immunity" and that is EXACTLY what we are doing until our bodies are laid to rest as composted mulch for the earth to consume. From that day onwards all the knowledge that existed was not sacred anymore, everything was up for grabs for being destroyed, so yes I am a good-hearted wrecking ball, a very good one (the best) and I search out lies, expose them for what they really are and destroy them.
What Is Wrong With That?
If you can't find fault in ones argument then the information is truth until such time verifiable faults have been found.
And if you find fault in ones argument or beliefs or faiths then they are not true.
Who has got the guts to look at these arguments and declare them for what they really are AT FACE VALUE?????
The arguments I raise are very healthy for all of us because there is no intended malice/harm-doing behind them yet the arguments should be looked at, at face value for exactly what is being stated/intended without running around it or attacking the character/personality of the MAN (the messenger) or blowing up a distracting dust-storm so you don't look at the dead heart of every belief you have, realise it for what it really is and let it go.
PROVE WHAT I AM STATING IS FALSE.
PLEASE FIND FAULT IN MY ARGUMENTS.
BACK IT UP WITH EVIDENCE, WITH LOGIC.
WHAT IS SO HARD ABOUT THAT?
I AM USING MY BRAIN AND EACH DAY, IF YOU HAVE BEEN NOTICING, I AM USING MORE AND MORE OF MY BRAIN WHICH I NEVER USED TO USE BECAUSE THOSE PARTS OF MY BRAIN, ALMOST ALL OF IT, WAS ASLEEP.
Look, I stress the point, that there are many many truths found in the bible, I acknowledge this, but I have also found many lies in them as well. This does not mean that Gee should not love the Creator because that would be madness, the fact is I also love the creator, the same creator Gee, Ant, you, John, Col, Sue, Mike etc love too. Its just that our brains have been so terribly messed with by nasty pieces of shit that most of us, if not all of us are confused about what exactly is the truth about the creator and about life. Who are we? What are we? etc etc.
And if we all remembered who we really are the Golden Age would already be present amongst us, but it isn't, WHY?
Who else is living on Earth besides MAN that stops the Golden Age from coming about????
WE.... US.....!!!!!!!
We are the common denominator, we are the problem, we are the imperfect ones so we are wasting our time pointing our fingers at anyone/everyone else who are imperfect.
The imperfect buck stops with us!
How can there ever be a Golden Age without "Community Immunity"???
All I am doing is using heartfelt logic and going where the truth of this logic takes me without ever arguing for any point of view. The truth wins out at all times. This means I am not set in concrete and I hope all of you aren't as well. I have written so much about all the reasons how and why we should not trust man-made knowledge.
Mathematics is formed out of man-made sacred geometry and the brilliant man-made perfectors of this man-made mathematics also built the Ancient Egyptian Pyramids and all other wonders in Lebanon, Greece, etc which the Living God of creation had nothing to do with.
Amongst the highest levels of the Satanic Cults of Ancient Egypt are the supreme masters of mathematics. They created the bible, no one else did. The creator has nothing to do with mathematics. I don't recall Fiona and I using angles, squares, rulers, numbers, circles to design our babies before we created them, and I guess no one else has either bar a few recent nut cases appearing on the scene.
All of perfect creation does not use mathematics to create. And the sun goes around the earth and the earth does not move and there is no time or space http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3455 so there goes the Mayan calendar in the bin, 2012, prophecies, astronomy, astrology, numerology, esoterics, occults, channellings, other cosmic, galactic, dimensional alien civilisations as well.
We have been lied to by so many lies that it is incredible how the MASTERS OF IMPERFECTION got away with this for such a long-time and most of us never woke up to realise the CONS after cons after cons after cons.
The creator created creation perfectly, not one stone was left unturned. MAN is part of the perfection of the creators creation. So why do we need 3rd parties conveying fictions like the bible if the creator created MAN perfectly???? Could it be to DESTROY the perfection of MAN by conning MAN to fall into the imperfect fictitious knowledge "on offer" by the third party peddlers (liars) of fiction (lies)?????
Remember: Wherever this evil abomination called "the civilisation of commerce" appeared so came with it read and write alphabet languages in the form of scrolls or papyri or tablets or books etc like "The Bible". Have you not yet woken up to the fact that all "HOLY BOOKS" came out of "THE CIVILISATIONS OF COMMERCE", the bible being one of them! They obviously did not come out of a rainforest or from a tribe living deep in the jungle or from the Barrier Reef!
And also, please do not forget the FACT that ALL "the civilisations of commerce" represent DESTRUCTION to creation, MAN being part of creation.
Is this not the ONLY reason why "The Bible exists to corrupt the perfection of MAN?
Was not MAN created perfectly before the bible came along????
And is it not true while MAN is imperfect that billions of bibles exist side by side with imperfect MAN to maintain an imperfect state of MAN?
What goes on here?
And don't come up with the 3rd party driven bullshit "INVISIBLE other-side" garbage where all "good" (Imperfect MAN/WOMAN) practising Christians go to (Heaven) sitting on the side of God and "The Christ", while they gladly wheel, deal, indulge and reside amongst the evil abomination that is "the civilisation of commerce" (The Present Western World)!!!!
HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ANYONE HOME???????????????????????
A BELIEF IS JUST AN INVISIBLE CHAIN OR BRIDGE OF IMPERFECT THOUGHTS/IDEAS
BETWEEN WHAT IS INVISIBLE AND HE/SHE WHO BELIEVES IN THE INVISIBLE
Also, I do not have to believe in fiction for a law book to be fiction.
The law book is fiction regardless if I believe this or not.
Do I need to believe in a tree for a tree to exist?
Of course not the tree exists regardless if I believe in the tree or not!
A lie is a lie, you do not need to believe in a lie before a lie becomes a lie do you?????
Beliefs have nothing to do with truth.
A belief (a man-made construct - an imperfect thought)
is just an invisible chain or bridge of imperfect thoughts/ideas between what is invisible (another imperfect thought/idea)
and with the imperfect he/she who believes in what is invisible (imperfect thoughts and ideas = IMPERFECTIONS = Fallen MAN).
That is all a belief or faith really is IMPERFECTION - Imperfect thoughts and ideas.
BELIEF IS THE BASIS OF ALL FORMS OF MIND-CONTROL
This is also the basis of MIND-CONTROL of imagining/creating out-of-thin-air the invisible mind, the invisible ego, the invisible intellect, the invisible agent-in-commerce, the invisible strawman, the invisible individual, the invisible fairytale, the invisible imperfect thoughts/ideas.
Beliefs have nothing to do with creation.
HOPE
What is there to hope for?????
Do I have to hope for my next breath of air????
Where there is hope there is uncertainty and uncertainty has nothing to do with creation.
Where there is hope is belief and yep there's that word LIE again in the middle of that word belief.
A SHEEPLE BECOMES FROM THOSE WHO BELIEVE
Imperfect thoughts and ideas for imperfect men, women and children who believe and have faith in them, called SHEEPLE or FALLEN MAN.
Time to focus on perfect feelings, thoughts, ideas, words and deeds.
How do we do this??????
DO NO HARM
Through feelings, thoughts, words and deeds.
How perfect is that??????
As perfect as the creator intended for us when the creator created us perfectly as MAN
Arthur Cristian
Co-creator of the
Golden Age
Love For Life
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HOW MANY MORE CLUES DO YOU NEED
TO REALISE THE FULFILMENT OF YOUR DREAM
Welcome To KINDOM
A Do No Harm Community Of Conscious Creators
Truly Free - No Beliefs - No Ownership
No Ones Sheep Nor Shephered
TAKE CARE OF LOVE AND LOVE TAKES CARE OF EVERYTHING ELSE
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27th January 2009
Mike Maxwell wrote to Arthur Cristian
And we love you too Arthur…
At the end of the day who cares what you believe in as long as you respect my right to choose.
Yes its personal whats good and bad and say so without fear and be rewarded or not for it as long as im rejecting what I believe is evil and fighting evil my way.
And in that way I believe we are on the same team with many differences, im unique you see so are you.. and yes you too… we the organic supercomputers ( with feelings tears and laughter) all… designed and planted with a conscience answer our conscious in built program and are
Trying to filter badness weakness and death disaster slavery injustice out of our life… for good was our creator and good was his design and good was his purpose and he made us above ALL animals,
ALL special for we are in his image and in his likeness and in his family having been just soil atomically weaved weaved into flesh given the very breath of good thru his mouth into our nostrils…
Having consciousness but limited in our vision, limited in our hearing, limited in our strength limited I cannot see smell or hear the frequencies altogether but I sense they are unlimited yet others reject what is not seen not heard not tasted by them, perhaps our limits are a blessing in disguise for if we could see taste and hear everything would we cope with everything both good and bad exposed, could we lift our heads surrounded by evil threats persecutions and temptations with unbridled fear ?
Could we lift our heads surrounded by majestic good power being flawed and damaged also having unbridled fear ?
What belief I believe matters is that I believe in the end good wins over evil…
Whether I survive is not important its whether evil is exterminated
and the cleansing results in the procession of good
as per the original design and plan of good.
Oh how patient the Creator is… I have no patience nor time to let things take their full course bring it on and make it quick I say for nothing man has designed can replace the badness with goodness now we are surrounded by openly evil open torturers terrorists and thieves who pretend piety and are dragging us towards total disaster, be it religious, political, medical, economic, educational, physical ,mental or spiritual totally bankrupt and rotten from the inside almost through every layer even probing the skin…
So who cares whether I eat meat or fish or carrots or have nothing in protest… the organic living earth bound men need to eat other organic material … or die in protest if they cannot stomach living organic food…
This is the PERFECT world Golden Age we are creating, isn't it???
Its already perfect for our recreation we are creations not creators and its our art our artificial creations that have damaged our perception of our world and what is good or bad and therefore our choices have been artificial and unreasonable to the point that some men think they are an animal and behave in a very artificial unnatural way towards them and theirs…
Ban_It You go first baby !!!
leads me back to the tools we must use (our brains) to re-create this beautiful perfect world, fixing all the damage (imperfections) caused by the lost (the imperfect). ………………..
The non meat fish and egg eaters are discounting that every thing on earth that is not man-you-factored are
all living things…
Even the soil is a living thing See full size image
Even the rock is a living thing
Even our water is a living thing
Not eating fish, eggs, meat is not making yourself holy
Not drinking water, digging soil, eating plants or splitting rocks is not making yourself holy
Eating a rotting carcass or rotten dead fruit or decaying plants is not saving life its rejecting
lifes bounty… and existing as a maggot would
Can you imagine the protesting lion not eating and waiting for his gift to the maggots and worms who gift to the soil ?
Removing or rejecting parts of lifes bounty is personal it doesn’t make you a higher being for your already high at the top
Of the created life and its bounty is for your benefit as you choose…
A raw diet for the sick and diseased is beneficial no doubt, a vegetarian diet for the conscientious objectors of meat is beneficial
For their mind cannot consume what baas and moos and has been kept unnaturally as a pet or as a display in a zoo and has been’given a unnatural artificial voice in cartoons with trademarked copyrighted human names
bambi, nemo, babe, porky, foghorn leghorn etc etc
and in art and so much that kids wont eat a fish but eat fish fingers
wont eat a steak but eat a happy meal burger,
wont eat a boiled egg, nor a chicken leg
but eat nuggets and fries, wont eat soup but eat chips and lollies…
Sacred cows See full size image
Sacred sheep
Sacred fish
Sacred chickens
Sacred Insects and Bacteria and Fungi
Sacred plants
Animals just don’t weep with tears, nor do fish weep with tears, nor does the soil nor does the water nor do cartoons weep real tears… only men women and children cry with tears …
Choose your food before it chooses you
Without Prejudice
MM
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28th January 2009
Arthur Cristian replied to Mike Maxwell
Dear Mike
With all your "supposed" good intentions, killing and eating what was a living-breathing-walking-talking-thinking-feeling creature without it's permission to do so, is supporting the harm-doing to our friends, companions and partners in co-creation. How could we have perfect creation or co-create perfect creation without their perfect equal participation?
What is perfect about killing and eating a living-breathing-walking-talking-thinking-feeling creature without their permission Mike???????
Now please answer this!
Please show us the incontrovertible evidence as to what is so perfect about MAN being of a higher standing than all living-breathing-walking-talking-thinking-feeling creatures which provides men and women with the justifications like the ones you presently have, which you use as the excuse to kill and eat any living-breathing-walking-talking-thinking-feeling creature when you think or feel like it or better still when you want to taste death again?????
How can we (living-breathing-walking-talking-thinking-feeling MAN) be of a higher standing than living-breathing-walking-talking-thinking-feeling creatures when the perfect living-breathing Earth is now in dire-straights, almost at the point of extinction, which means our extinction as well??? Are we not now all on our knees at the mercy of MAN (of each other) to save us all from the blind stupidity of every living-breathing-walking-talking-thinking-feeling man, woman or child who continues destroying or supporting the destruction to the fabric of creation which all living-breathing-walking-talking-thinking-feeling creatures are part of.......... and to which we are all part of as well?????
Is the perfect "higher standing" you rave on about actually one of taking FULL RESPONSIBILITY to care for and protect all the perfect living-breathing-walking-talking-thinking-feeling creatures of creation so we do not destroy the fabric of perfect creation which actually means destroying ourselves (perfect MAN) as well??????
Anyone using their brain will comprehend that it is impossible for a conscious-living MAN to Do Harm to creation. To Do Harm means that he/she must first become unconscious, which means destroying themselves first (destroying their consciousness - destroying their soul - destroying their bonds with creation) before they are capable of Doing Harm to any living-breathing-walking-talking-thinking-feeling creature or to any other life-form of creation, inanimate or not.
And do you know how we destroy ourselves MIKE, by becoming stupid-dumbed-down hu-man sheeple like you Mike who believe in grazing in the fields of man-made knowledge. THAT'S HOW
ONLY THE DESTROYED CAN DESTROY
Are you admitting that you have destroyed the perfection of the MAN you are creating MIKE?????????
What is so perfect about killing/destroying the very fabric of creation which all living-breathing-walking-talking-thinking-feeling creatures are part of at the cost of destroying ourselves as well at the same time????? Are not the perfect living-breathing-walking-talking-thinking-feeling bodies of MAN entwined/interconnected/interweaved into the same perfect fabric of creation that all perfect living-breathing-walking-talking-thinking-feeling creatures are part of as well??????
How else can we create the perfect MAN we are supposed to be creating if we do not act perfectly, leading to destroying perfect creation, which dramatically reduces our options to access perfect creation to create the creation of our perfect MAN???????
Where would we be without perfect living-breathing-walking-talking-thinking-feeling creatures to co-create the fabric of perfect creation which we require perfectly to co-create the perfect fabric of the MAN we are creating?????
Hello Mike ARE YOU HOME??????????
Are You Insane Mike?????????
Are you not stupidly dumping your beliefs in imperfect fictitious man-made knowledge upon the perfect living-breathing-walking-talking-thinking-feeling creatures of perfect creation which shuts off/blocks out/blunts/blankets all the perfect living-breathing-walking-talking-thinking-feeling information of creation provided by all perfect said creatures who willingly/lovingly assist us in co-creating the perfect MAN we are supposed to be creating???????? AND in the perfect image of the perfect creator who created both the perfect living-breathing-walking-talking-thinking-feeling creatures and the perfect living-breathing-walking-talking-thinking-feeling MAN.
When you awaken to the fact that all living things of creation are connected and that the consciousness of a living-breathing-walking-talking-thinking-feeling creature is the consciousness of all, you will realise that when you DO HARM to any living part of creation, big or small, you are DOING HARM to all of creation (this includes us). How can we fight some harm-doing with one arm while continuing to do harm with the other? It's impossible and, unless we wean ourselves of DOING HARM in all areas of our lives, the cycle of destruction will continue.
Where's the perfection in killing a living-breathing-walking-talking-thinking-feeling creature and eating it?
Incidentally, though I haven't read the Essene Bible myself, I have heard that there is a lot of support for vegetarianism in there. Dr Gabriel Cousens, a prominent raw-fooder, has studied the Essene Bible at great length and says that the great MAN of long-ago was most likely an Essene and vegetarian. He is not the only one, this is just what Fiona has read in his book, "Conscious Eating", and the info was passed onto me. Why don't you read your Bible with this in mind? Isn't one of the Ten Commandments "Thou shalt not kill"? Or did they leave out a bit that said man, women and children, i.e. "Thou shalt not kill men, women and children." An Establishment typo, perhaps?
Instead of all of us acting as foremans overseeing the destruction to creation in abattoirs, supermarkets, shopping centres, mines, cities, offices, schools, churches, arenas, hotels, brothels, racetracks, highways, oceans, rivers, atmosphere, forests, mountains, valleys, hills, planes etc should we not be using all of our perfect brains to tread lightly on the earth so we Do No Harm to creation while we expand the perfect consciousness (the perfect information) of perfect creation which we are part of and benefit perfectly from such expansion??????
By creating the MAN we are creating imperfectly we are refusing, rejecting and passing the buck to take full responsibility for being the perfect co-creators (stewards, caretakers) of creation who provide the perfect order and direction for all living-breathing-walking-talking-thinking-feeling creatures on earth, therefore the animal kindom (including fish, birds, reptiles etc) have had to rely upon themselves to co-create between themselves their order on Earth.
What kind of paradise will we recreate on Earth again when we take full responsibility for creating perfect MAN on a perfect Earth as part of perfect creation?????
By calming the beast in MAN we have calmed the beast in all creatures. Anastasia and her clan shows the way (the perfect-living-truth of our (MANS) true heritage): http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1125
Mike, In the near future and if you don't change your ways many will see you as a hater and enemy of creation to be dealt with. As community immunity grows all haters and enemies of living-breathing-walking-talking-thinking-feeling creatures will be confronted and rounded up as criminals just as a healthy immune system confronts and rounds up nasty toxic invaders. I will not be part of this action because it will take time to awaken everyone to true love again but by that stage millions of meat eaters could be murdered by extremists. Be Warned, its on the cards, many of our youth are brainwashed, confused and angry. Environmentalism is the next most-dangerous religion to come on board joining other violent practitioners of religion.
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
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THE MOST INSANE COMMENT ANYONE COULD MAKE. IT IS STEEPED IN DENIAL!!!
28th January 2009
From Nick Kennedy In Canada........
Mike said....At the end of the day who cares what you believe in as long as you respect my right to choose.
Nick replied, THIS IS THE MOST INSANE COMMENT ANYONE COULD MAKE. IT IS STEEPED IN DENIAL!!!
Now, mike. I "choose" to come over to your house, and butcher, and eat all of your pets, and maybe when I am finished, I may have your children for dessert!!!
I wonder if your God will save them, or will Mike take ACTION to prevent this????
Why is it the "christians" have the hardest time grasping a DO NO HARM lifestyle????
Could it be b/c "Christians"/zombies now have an excuse to rip and tear, whether their Holy Book excuses that or not???
THEY ARE NOT REALLY RESPONSIBLE, CUZ THE "LORD" SAYS IT'S OK!!!
Yeah and they are saved by grace!!!
What a larf!!!
Do you think it is a co-incidence that satanists just LOVE killing animals, humans, and whatever else they can get their hands on????
Maybe the 2 RELIGIONS are closely related?
I DO know that the MORmON church's rituals are patterned after, and almost identical to the FREEMASONRY ones.
Isn't that the whole agenda behind religion in the first place?
To CONtrol "BEHAVIOR" of the sheeples, starting by INDOCTRINATING/conditioning them to be more like what the SATANIC forces/CONtrollers are!
KILLERS!!!!
Call me KRAZY but when I feel that someone is wholly EVIL and doing HARM to creation, I am NOT going to imitate them. I am going to distance myself from that BEHAVIOR as much as possible!!! I call this COMMON SENSE. Does anyone have CS anymore?
I quit the SDA Church 15 years ago(and they were vegetarian) b/c common sense/intuition told me there was something seriously WRONG with the zombies in the church. There was not an iota of critical thinking! One was fine if they went along with the rest of the sheeple, and their "SHEPHERDS" but if anyone disagreed they were ignored, and if they kept on, they were chastized, and/or excommunicated.
There are a MILLION and one reasons to become vegetarian!
HEALTH for everyone, and everything concerned is just one!
Nick.
"When we use the information of consciousness to create acts of love, here and now, moment by moment, we recreate the Garden of Eden as it was before we (MAN) fell. Kindoms will bring us back to Eden."
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From: Nick Kennedy
Date: January 23, 2009 3:12:46 PM PST (CA)
To: Ant S
Hi Ant....
I am the designated HEATHEN?????
I REpreSENT THAT ASSumption!!! lol
It looks like I won't be making the trip to the BIG KingDUMB in the sky!!!! lol
I guess I'll have to settle for reigning in HELL, instead of resting in HEAVEN!!!
Does it say anything about the LAW of ACTION/REACTION,CAUSE and EFFECT, or KHARMA in the bibb-le? And LAWYERS GOING TO HEAVEN??? Whoever heard of such an idea???? Maybe they can BUY their way in using all that $$$$ they stole from the drones on Earth?!?
I wonder where they will situate the SLAUGHTERHOUSES up there, so the "blessed ones" can still partake of the DEAD ANIMAL FLESH, they are ADDICTED to??? If KARMA RULES maybe HEAVEN is actually operated by all of the reincarnated dead animals who were "dinner" for the BLESSED CHRISTIANS!?!
They will have there own assembly line set up, leading to their own "PROCESSING PLANT", for the CARNIVORES. When you arrive you will have to take a number and wait. Luckily, the BANKSTERS, polyTICions, CEOs, doctors, priests/pedophiles and lawyers will get first dibs tho, b/c of their "standing/status" they have here on Earth.
Wouldn't want to keep y'all waitin'! (; signed....Little Nicky
"When we use the information of consciousness to create acts of love, here and now, moment by moment, we recreate the Garden of Eden as it was before we (MAN) fell. Kindoms will bring us back to Eden."
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23rd January 2009
Reply from Ant
Now now Gents, must I intercede here too?
My assessment is as follows:
Arthur & Fiona action @ loveforlife.com.au = New age
Charkles cobbscrossing @ bigpond.com = Constitutionalist-heathen? (sorry Charles-no mention of the Creator in your Const)
Mike Maxwell jm214423 @ bigpond.net.au = Believer
Col Adkins gnode colbev @ mynet.net.au = Believer
Joe Bryant succeed @ tsn.cc = ??
Sue Maynes II = Believer
Graham grahamjukes @ blueyonder.co.uk = ?? Believer??
Bob Taft rbtaft @ rtconnect.net = Believer
Mark Pytellek pytellek @ hotmail.com = Believer
Nick Kennedy nick61 @ telus.net = Heathen
John Wilson jhwilson @ rightsandwrong.com.au = Fence
Graham grahamk @ powerup.com.au = ??
Jim Bernard poetrylark @ yahoo.com = ??
constitution @ national-renewal.org.au = Constitutionalist-heathen??
Malcolm McDougall = ??
Jack-William peachjd @ persona.ca = ??
Carol Prendergast cprendy @ westnet.com.au = ??
Ray Platt strat001 @ iprimus.com.au = ??
Phil Atkinson phillipatkinson @ optusnet.com.au = Believer
Pls let me know if my assumption is wrong
Lions: 8
Christians: 4
Believers: 7 (+1 bcc)=8
My assessment. Not being mean as I don't know all your fruits. Assuming, which is not 100%.
So the lions win. Or is it hung?
John, can you please organise a fairer trial by jury.
Geez, I dunno who are muslims or Buddhists etc.
The believers may be even more outnumbered.
Gee, can only find the following:
41 verses with 42 hits
48 with 50 hits
Then
87 with 89 hits
What is 80 times..the latter?
Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
But Arthur, you can use this line too. Faith is the substance of things hoped for....
It's all hypothesis on both sides. Faith is what the believers use. Yes you will say, what is the substance ... but what of this digital email ... don't respond ... its fiction......
Arthur, you also use your belief. You believe a lawbook is fiction. No need to write, you have done so on many occasions.
Please explain Ivan Panin's works. He was an unbeliever & became a believer as he could not see how scripture was a fluke with its numerological consistency. Research that.
Substance. Well my love for you fellow brother, how do I make that of substance??? You are such a kind man, ongoing, tireless man doing all this for your family & others. I truly have respect for you. But you have to awaken to what I do ... a glorious day tomorrow.
Did it evolve, or was it created?
Seems simple ... did you create it? Was it in place for birrions of years?
At the moment I am remembering the Sabbath. It is upon us. Maybe to you it's Satur(n)day. Maybe you & me are trapped in a defacto Roman world that we cannot escape, except by choice. You may see just another day, glory in creation. I see a cycle, proof shown by the moon & the sun...substance. I can see it. Sabbath is ruled by such substance. Maybe not enough for you, but I like structure. My Father said I shall work 6days then rest. Am not at the moment, but I am working for Him, this day is for Him & I have been given this challenge, like many before.
Blessings to all on the Sabbath rest
Ant
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23/01/2009 8:49 PM
Gee,
You can throw up all the dust-storms you like to obstruct reality but sooner or later the dust settles and a clear view of reality stretches out well ahead.
When you finally pull yourself out of this dust-storm of your own making what do you really see???
You attack the MAN, I challenge what the MAN believes without attacking the MAN
What does that say??????
Arthur Cristian
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Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 8:07 PM
From Gee Temp
Oh, Arthur, go try rattling someone else's chain.
Better still, read Proverbs - you're mentioned therein at least 80 times.
Gee.
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From Arthur Cristian
To: Gee Temp
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009
So you have nothing of substance on offer to back your claims of truth?
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!
Unwilling to take full responsibility for the truths you claim are true by backing them!
You prefer to cop out instead of backing your truths. Great.
You prefer to come out swinging a sword to protect the invisible master you serve.
You must be very attached to the invisible Gee.
It appears that you serve an invisible master.
What's the name of this fairytale you're in?
Isn't there someone else of the invisible also offering many a temptation?
Or is it one and the same?
I am interested in an idiot friendly practicable/applicable remedy, otherwise what is the point? I offer a remedy AND I am happy to hear of any other true remedies to our current situation. I ask you again - what remedy does reading the bible offer? How does it provide the food, shelter and support that we all need? How does it clean up all the mess billions have created? How will it bring peace? Do I need to point out that it has failed to do so for thousands of years? And still it ain't seen to be doing anything to stop billions causing war, violence and destruction today.
And how many are there reading the bible studiously these days? 1 million? 100 million? 1 billion? 2 billion?
What deeds of the WISE, presumably those who read the Bible, can you show me to demonstrate the remedy they offer? Where is the peace on earth, joy, abundance and freedom for all? Where is the Golden Age? The healing of the sick? I want to go and visit such a place on Earth today Gee!
In idiot friendly practical terms, how does "The Christ" provide/dispense remedy? Lets say "The Christ" is now amongst us performing his deeds, fulfilling all bible prophecies, please describe how this is being applied in everyday practical terms Gee? As an example what would he be doing in everyday practical terms that would have the faithful resolve all MANS woes, clean up all the mess and usher in the golden age?
So I ask again..... SO HOW IS THE REMEDY APPLIED BY "THE CHRIST" (OF SUBSTANCE) TO BE THE SAVIOUR OF MAN (OF SUBSTANCE) GEE?????
Where is the Bible without 3rd parties to illustrate, promote, explain, teach and preach?
Also, where is the incontrovertible evidence to back your claims "New Age rhetoric" and "There's plenty of space next to the Yahs and Christophers of this world"????
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
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23rd January 2009
Gee Temp Wrote:
If you weren't so in love with your own New Age rhetoric, Arthur, you'd have read my words clearly - do you own study and stop trying to bludge off the knowledge of others whom you so readily try to criticise and ridicule.
You, of course, view it as 'avoidance of your "logical" questions' but we're not interesting in your childish 'baiting' processes.
Been there; done that.
Nevertheless, when you're really willing to learn, someone will be sure to assist you and your lovely family.
Gee.
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From Arthur Cristian
To: Gee Temp
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 2:02 AM
Where is the living substance in the Bible Gee? Why are you avoiding the question and why the transmission of the out-of-frequency static noises??? Is this noise a shield and if so what is it protecting?
I can assure you I represent no harm to you. However I am a straight shooter and I straighten crooked words which can only be done with truth, with love, with the intent for purity and sincerity behind every feeling, thought, word and deed created. So if you have no crooked words on offer then you have nothing to protect or to fight for. The truth is plainly obvious for all to see. Or is this not the case either?
So I ask again..... SO HOW IS THE REMEDY APPLIED BY "THE CHRIST" (OF SUBSTANCE) TO BE THE SAVIOUR OF MAN (OF SUBSTANCE) GEE?????
You are of the living substance aren't you Gee????? If you are then please bring forward the living substance to back your truths otherwise it will be seen that you ain't got any living substance on offer from the bible, therefore will be seen either as being a Black-Magic CON seeking to do me harm through deception or is a CONTROVERSY in the making of your own doing.
Does the living God hide behind curtains of invisibility, its living substance beyond my reach? If that is the case presented then it will be seen by fact that we are now talking about an invisible God, therefore is a dead God of fiction.
I am on the path of truth, I will go wherever the truth takes me, I will never argue for any belief or knowledge just for the sake of avoiding the truth.
Please show me the living truth of your words Gee so that my conscious-living senses (sight, sound, touch, taste, feel, smell/scent) can experience truth or are you going to say that I am not to trust my senses and to just trust the invisible thin air formed by words you believe in that have no substance (truth) behind them, the same type of misleading words causing billions of men, women and children today to suffer for believing in lies disguised as invisible truths.
Asking for me to accept what you believe in is one thing, asking for me to accept what you believe in is truth is another.
Experience tells me that Truth comes with taking full responsibility and in the pure and sincere light of truth experience clearly reveals to me that the living God takes full responsibility for everything the living God creates, in this case TRUTH. Now I can back my truths taking full responsibility for what I claim as truth. Would the living God not take full responsibility for truth Gee????
If you agree that the living God does not take full responsibility for truth then this God is unable to back its truth, will have no substance (truth) behind it whatsoever. But if you agree that the living God does take full responsibility for truth then the living God will back its truth with the living substance of the living God. It has to be living substance of the living God otherwise the living God or whatever impostor acting as the living God is lying.
I await the living evidence (substance) of truth that backs your truths Gee. If you or any other believer in the bible regardless of whatever version is dredged up is unable to bring forward living truth to back the truth created by the living God, then it is being seen to be for all to see that no bible believer is taking full responsibility for their belief in the bible and from this point onwards the bible is being declared by its own believers as a lie and have declared themselves as liars while they continue practising their belief in the bible.
Until such time as the living-truth (substance) is brought forward to back the truths believed in by bible believers the bible is condemned by its own believers to the rubbish heap.
And I am not talking about 3rd party agents coming forward claiming they are acting on behalf of the living Gods bible, as its authorised representative of truth, because then they better have the living Gods evidence at hand to back their truths,
Conscious Love Always
Arthur Cristian
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22nd January 2009
Gee Temp Wrote:
You're not lazy, Arthur.
No need to bludge off my years of study
Do what many of the rest of us have done - read the Bible.
If you don't like what it says, then that's OK - it's your God-given choice to reject it.
There's plenty of space next to the Yahs and Christophers of this world.
Gee.
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From Arthur Cristian
To: Gee Temp
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 10:02 PM
Show me the substance of their Saviour "The Christ"
We are talking about a living God aren't we?
And if yes, then show me the living substance of the living Gods Saviour "The Christ?
Arthur Cristian
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22nd January 2009
Gee Temp Wrote:
As stated, Arthur, "The wise know they are indebted to their Saviour, the Christ."
Sorry, old son.
Gee.
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From Arthur Cristian
To: Gee Temp
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 9:44 PM
clap - clap - clap -clap - clap - clap - clap
Also: "The Saviour" -------- What Is The Saviour "The Christ" Saving MAN from Gee???????
"From the beast of fiction that invented the Western World Civilisation Of Commerce that is hell ??????
The path of truth of "The Christ" is only found along the path of substance....... so the Saviour "The Christ" engages with substance at-all-times.
SO HOW IS THE REMEDY APPLIED BY "THE CHRIST" (OF SUBSTANCE) TO BE THE SAVIOUR OF MAN (OF SUBSTANCE) GEE?????
Note: The answer will never be found in words con-veying con-structs which form an answer!!!!!!! - Con-structs are fictions without substance of creation!!!!!
I provide you with a powerful clue - see if you can work it out........
Cut & pasted from here: The Role Of David Icke In The New World Order by Arthur Cristian 21st January 2009: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5304
There are only two paths we can take............
1. Creating MAN/WOMAN through the information of creation offered by everything of creation to be shared by everything of creation (consciousness) = DO NO HARM.
When we are conscious we refuse to Do Harm to the creation of the MAN/WOMAN we are creating.
2. Believing in The Images (The Knowledge Of Fiction) Crafted by The Establishment which transfer you to Fiction-Fantasyland (unconsciousness) = DOING HARM.
When we are unconscious we are Doing Harm to creation, Doing Harm to the creation of the MAN/WOMAN we are creating.
By believing in the IMAGES of the Illumined Mind (The Knowledge That Is Fiction), you take a ride on an escalator that instantly transfers you into the pits of THEIR MAKE BELIEVE HELL, their CRAFTED VERSION OF REALITY, that being The Fictitious Western World Civilisation. Only the unconscious (the dead) reside in the Fictitious Western World Civilisation that is a make-believe world of the dead by the dead where everyone is doing-harm to the creation of the MAN/WOMAN they are creating, EARTH being part of the creation of MAN/WOMAN.
This is what David Icke and many other trained Illumined Minds of Knowledge (in Sacred Geometry, Mathematics, Read/Write Alphabet Languages & all History recorded in such languages [of knowledge]) are doing to you, but they don't realise they are destroying the MAN/WOMAN they are supposed to be creating as well.
"The Lost" (The Destroyed) Are Leading (Destroying) "The Lost".
We have to first destroy the creation of the MAN we are creating by becoming unconscious to be able to destroy others by guiding them to destroy themselves as well.
THE DESTROYED ARE DESTROYING
We can only become unconscious when we believe in and worship FICTION, the man-made knowledge that has nothing to do with the living information of creation which is co-created by all living things that bear the substance of creation. When we place man-made knowledge, invented out-of-thin-air, onto the information of creation, we block out that information and become numb to it, unable to feel it through all the layers of knowledge. Knowledge separates us from conscious-living creation, from the information created by the living-God of creation.
No matter which INTELLECTUALISED path Of Knowledge that Is Fiction you take, the Illumined Minds have already got you by the balls in their hell because they CRAFTED each and every man-made con-struct of knowledge that exists on Earth today. As you can see, the Illumined Minds of Knowledge like David Icke, know that if they maintain the CON you will continue using all their plastic building blocks and mecanno pieces (of knowledge) to CRAFT your unconscious-dead life (version of reality) IN THEIR IMAGE on earth.
What Is Critical To Illumined Deceivers Like David Icke Is Making Sure That The People Do Not Become Awakened To The Tools OF KNOWLEDGE They Use For Their CRAFT. They use their tools to maintain their power and control but they do not realise that the tools they use are destroying them as well.
David Icke Is Just Like A Hornet That Comes Out Of The Hornets Nest To Sting (Distract) The People (Who Are Awakening) From Getting Too Close To The Hornets Nest.
What Are The Hornets Hiding?
Any information of creation that assists us in remembering (creating) who we really are.
David Icke Provides Another Series Of Illumined Distractions, Pathways, That Keep The People Preoccupied In The Maze Within The Maze Of Fiction-Fantasyland (The Western World Civilisation) where everyone is destroying the creation of MAN and MANS Earth.
All the Best
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
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Gee Temp wrote
22nd January 2009
More or less, John.
There is no money!
There are only 'bills' and all are issued as debts.
The 'money' we earn is that which was released and recirculated when someone used their signature to create a debt (often called a 'loan').
The only so-called 'currency' is gold and silver coins but even they are phony - containing only 'pretend' gold/silver (and limited as per the "Currency Act 1965").
Everyone and everything is indebted. The banks think we're indebted to them.
The wise know they are indebted to their Saviour, the Christ.
Gee.
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24th January 2009
From Bob Taft
The universe of universes is finite. It's a giant jelly-bean shaped thing with endless layers of shimmering lights.
If you un-locate self you can view it.
You are infinite.
Best regards,
Bob Taft
The Taft Ranch
Upton, Wyoming
(307) 465-2206
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=74897
" There are three kinds of men:
The ones that learn by reading.
The few who learn by observation.
The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and find out for themselves".
Will Rogers
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22nd January 2009
Please go to:-
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?p=68E1E5645702F710&index=2&feature=PlayList&...
on www.safe-online.org
RobO
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22nd January 2009
From: Col Adkins
G'day Fiona
And whilst the stupid dumb S4B sheeple flail away inside/on the never-ending fiscal treadmill they have the audacity to maintain they (themselves) are the smart ones!!! What a sick joke they are playing on themselves!!!!.
Einstein was right "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe"!!!
Regards
Col
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From: Fiona Bryce
To: Col Adkins
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: interest rates
trouble is when they create the money they lend to you, the only create the principal... they dont create the interest, which means, there is less money in the system than what is required.. the only way the system works is if everyone is in debt.
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22nd January 2009
Now you are talking, John.
Instead of arguing ad infinitum over what is wrong, we should devote our energy to fixing the problem.
The Draft Constitution attached is one attempt to do that. Does anyone have a better idea?
Charles S Mollison
Chairman
The Foundation for National Renewal
PO Box 82
Woombye, Qld, 4559
07 5442 1589
Email: constitution @ national-renewal.org.au
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From: John Wilson
Sent: Thursday, 22 January 2009 12:13 PM
To: Ant
Dear Ant,
Of course, money is a secondary medium to a loaf of bread or a pound of sausages....and that's what the smart a's have been exploiting...and why the People have got to take control. The sun still shines and the grass still grows and the People will reap the fruit of their labours..at that level of reality. Outside of that, any boom or recession is artificial. The medium of exchange must be controlled by the People through "accountable government". The Stock Market is fundamentally destructive and conceived by rip-off merchants....it ought to be outlawed.
Yours sincerely,
John Wilson.
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From: Ant
To: John Wilson
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:35 PM
John
What 'money' do we earn?
Think that is the point Gee was getting at.
In 1907 a barrel of oil was priced at GOLD$3, yes, not fed res toilet paper-gold-real value.
Recently it was US-FedRes$140 /barrel.
What's the difference?
So what has been created since the banksters took over?
Value, substance, honesty, integrity, abundance...
OR
Scarcity, inflation, debt-dollars, pain, suffering....
We keep mixing reality with fantasy-fiction, yet we keep expecting reality. Isn't that true?
And who keeps laughing all the way to the digital-bank using our labour then taxing us on it to boot?
Ant
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22nd January 2009
Dear Col,
The RBA Journals show that the "Currency in Circulation" increases by $1billion being injected into the economy by the Mint and $130+billions by the Private Banks creating it out of thin air to be imposed on the country as debt......I know all that.....but, when it comes to someone directly paying for something, it's got to come out of their own pocket, ie: they've got to work for that folding money.
Yours sincerely,
John Wilson.
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22nd January 2009
Hi John,
I can now prove CBA thugs were charging us about one hundred and twenty five percent interest.
Tony Rigg
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22nd January 2009
Col Adkins wrote:
G'day John,
NOW YOU'RE WAKING UP, old bean.
YES, ALL "our" 'money' HAS come from the BANKSTERS by way of their counterfeiting of it!!!!
WAKEY WAKEY!!
Regards
Col
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From: John Wilson
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 8:39 AM
Dear Gee,
You pay the plumber from the money you earn.
Are you saying all your money comes from loans from banks?
Yours sincerely,
John Wilson.
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From: Gee Temp
To: John Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 3:45 PM
From debt created by banks, John.
Gee.
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From Mike Maxwell
19th January 2009
To: Charles Mollison
But what if if the money was there (it aint) and you borrowed it (and you didn’t receive the money it was mythically transferred in the book)
And bizarrely you actually paid back 4 times the money in principal due to the interest (which is not created and is missing also) and you got every last cent paid back (on the backs of others losing for they could not find the interest) and your given the ink and paper mache title to land (fiction) and you found that you’re a tenant… and cannot own alloidal land (you’re a dumb slave) and only have been tendered the lie sense to use it…for now …
You purchase land as either Joint Tenants or Tenants in Common under the Crown system.
Land is power… so you are forced to lose it…
Without Prejudice
MM
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From: John Wilson
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 6:23 AM
Dear Gee,
Where does one get the money to pay the plumber?
Yours sincerely,
John Wilson.
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19th January 2009
From Bob Taft
To: William
Most likely Mallory (was it?) who wrote the Italian plays. Shakespeare probably never wrote any of them. Bacon wrote some.
Jefferson was criticized for promoting a simple, agrarian society. Abandonment of it produces the feudal society of factory serfs producing geegaws we'd be better off without.
Best regards,
Bob Taft
The Taft Ranch
Upton, Wyoming
(307) 465-2206
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=74897
" There are three kinds of men:
The ones that learn by reading.
The few who learn by observation.
The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and find out for themselves".
Will Rogers
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From: William
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:38 PM
To: Col
Hi all.
In reply to Charlies point (can’t see any way that a modern society can operate without some cost on the provision of capital) My (5cents worth) reply: is it not the medium of the capital used by modern societies that is in error so would it not be better to change the medium?
Or,
If we did not have the system we have today would we have the quality of life we have today, ie would we have the material things (all our toys, the infrastructure our society has etc) which are derived from technologies funded by the medium of the capital used by modern societies or is it better and would we want to change and go back to horse and cart times and give it up.
This is not to say that Col does not have a point (perhaps a very good one) as we know from the bible and history ‘usury’ is sufficiently discussed but for those who want to read something, read ‘The Merchant of Venice’ a story most of you may well know and written by a man who have the ‘Will to Shake the Spear’ of justice.
Or
Google ‘Project Venus’ Somewhere in one of the down loads the idea is discussed of changing the money system we have to a technology based system like I have the technology to clean toilets you have technology to make bread, (like bartering). I say this as an idea so we start thinking out side the box we have.
Recently I read or heard a saying “you can either make a change or enjoy what you have” Because getting upset about just will waste your time.
Thank you.
William
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From: Arthur Cristian
To: Col Adkins
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009
We should be now putting all our time and effort to live the way the creator intended for us all to live.
Have written much about it already.
Unfortunately those with Plastic Barbies and Plastic Kens http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6268#comment-1028 to care for will be too distracted to see (feel) the fever coming so there will be nothing left for them to remember who they really are..........
What Then???? .................. for Plastic Barbies and Plastic Kens ....................................... nothing ....................... life (creation) goes on ....................................... in the REAL world.
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
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19th January 2009
From: Col Adkins
To: Arthur Cristian
Greetings Arthur, O' Scribe of the Blue Mountains,
Pray tell, ...... AFTER the fever, the biggest one ever, the 4000 foot tidal waves, the 300+ mph winds, the cyclones, the hurricanes, the storms, the tornadoes coming and going for weeks on end, the earthquakes, the lands sinking while new ones rise, the volcanoes exploding around the globe, the dust and particles blocking out the sun for up to 12 months, the phenomenal floods, after the sweating, the shaking, the diarrhoea, the farting, the vomiting, after the etc etc....... .... .... ..... .... ..... ....... ...... what then????
Regards
Col
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From: Arthur Cristian
To: Col Adkins
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 1:58 AM
Are you all going to miss the boat? Why are you not preparing to return to the real world? It seems that most of you love the fairytale so much that you want to continue living in it. Why are you not thinking straight and clear? All the props/infrastructure of the fairytale will be taken away shortly, then what for all these discussions??? They will be seen as a complete waste of time/life.
Have you not yet realised that the earth is about to have a fever, the biggest one ever?
Unless we all change our ways very very quickly, inspire others to do likewise, we will shortly have a series of up to 4000 foot tidal waves rolling inland up to 400 miles in many locations, we will have 300+ mph winds, cyclones, hurricanes, storms, tornadoes coming and going for weeks on end, we will have many earthquakes appearing in unexpected places going deep down to the magna, we will have lands sinking while new ones rise, volcanoes will explode around the globe and the dust and particles will block out the sun for up to 12 months in some locations. Phenomenal floods never seen for thousands of years will appear in various locations globally. And the list goes on and on.
All the harm done by MAN to creation is being healed/cleansed/remedied no different to your body having a fever after being abused for too long,.... sweat, shake, diarrhoea, farts, vomit etc etc.
The earth is going to move and when that happens is when the fever kicks in BIG-TIME.
Are you all going to repeat the same mistakes as those reported from ancient times?
We should be now putting all our time and effort to live the way the creator intended for us all to live.
Have written much about it already.
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
www.loveforlife.com.au
action @ loveforlife.com.au
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18th January 2009
Dear Col
It is time to stop repeating rhetoric and to start devising the ways and means to fix the problems.
If I lend you $100,000 you can rest assured that I have worked long and hard for that $100,000.
Currently, the Banksters ARE creating loan money out of nothing. The current system allows them to do that. But if you read the Draft Constitution carefully you will see that we are advocating changes that will eliminate such fraud.
Charles
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From: Col Adkins
Sent: 18 January 2009 01:07
To: Charles S Mollison
G'day Charles,
You overlook a obvious conundrum......you question "Is it fair that borrowing that $100,000 costs nothing?" ......
Perhaps you ought consider first if it "Is fair to charge fees or interest for 'borrowing' $100,000 that costs the 'lender' *nothing?" (the act of doing so constitutes FRAUD, ...........FRAUD is STEALING)
Perhaps you ought pay somewhat more attention to the 10 commandments.
*Remember well that the BANKSTERS are counterfeiting the 'money' of this 'Nation'.
Time to stop putting the 'cart before the horse', old chap.
Regards
Col
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From: Gee Temp
To: John Wilson
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 10:31 AM
Where does the extra $10,000 come from, John?
Gee.
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18th January 2009
From: Charles Mollison
Dear John
Now we are getting somewhere!
There is no doubt that current practice of floating interest rates is an absolute nonsense and must be stopped. If I agree to 5% interest (or a $10,000 fee) when I take out a loan, that is what it must remain for the duration of the loan. (I agree wholeheartedly with you John that there must be certainty of terms.)
I hope you will agree, John, that I can repay the loan over a period of say, ten years?
However, if you are going to charge me a fee of say, $10,000, may I also spread payment of that over the same period?
If we agree on that, John, are not we just arguing over semantics?
If I borrow $100,000 from you and we agree I will pay back $110,000; does it matter if the extra $10,000 is called a fee or interest?
Regards
Charles
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From: John Wilson
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 7:01 AM
Dear Charles,
A loan is money lent that is to be returned.
A loan is a service that merits a fee.
When you borrow $100,000 a fee could be, say, $10,000.
Therefore, the contract states that $100,000 is to be lent and $110,000 repaid.
The essential element of "certainty of terms" is satisfied.
Yours sincerely,
John Wilson.
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From: Bob Taft
19th January 2009
To: Charles Mollison
The parasite partner is one who does nothing but put in created debt-money which cost him nothing.
What worked a hundred years ago could work today.
Best regards,
Bob Taft
The Taft Ranch
Upton, Wyoming
(307) 465-2206
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=74897
" There are three kinds of men:
The ones that learn by reading.
The few who learn by observation.
The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and find out for themselves".
Will Rogers
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From: Charles S Mollison
Sent: Sunday, 18 January 2009 12:52 PM
To: 'Bob Taft'
Dear Bob
Two points.
Firstly, 100 years ago it might have been acceptable for the buyer and the seller of a business to remain partners until the borrowed money was paid out but I would argue that would not be satisfactory in the 21st Century.
Secondly, you seem to be ignoring the fact the “parasite partner” you refer to has put in his share of the labour by earning the money he is putting in to start the business.
Regards
Charles
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From: Bob Taft
Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2009 6:52 AM
To: Charles
Someone who invests money in your business becomes part owner. If you pay him back then he's eventually out. A hundred years or more ago when someone sold a property the buyer and seller were partners until the property was paid for. No need to add interest. No need to bring in a parasite partner who gets paid for compounding the cost of the property but produces no labor.
Our society is super-saturated with added interest at every level, raising the cost of everything we buy.
This is similar to the value added tax VAT, that some countries use, adding a percentage of the cost every time something changes hands, from raw materials to retailed product.
Best regards,
Bob Taft
The Taft Ranch
Upton, Wyoming
(307) 465-2206
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=74897
" There are three kinds of men:
The ones that learn by reading.
The few who learn by observation.
The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and find out for themselves".
Will Rogers
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From: Charles Mollison
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 5:32 PM
Dear John
I would like to adhere to the Bible but can't see any way that a modern society can operate without some cost on the provision of capital.
Let's say you save your dollars (say $100,000) and start a business in High St and I also start a business in High St in competition with you but borrow the $100,000 to get started.
Is it fair that borrowing that $100,000 costs nothing?
Charles
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From: John Wilson
Sent: Friday, 16 January 2009 9:19 AM
Dear Charles,
If we're going to adhere to the Bible, we'd "enshrine" NO INTEREST RATES into a Constitution.
Yours sincerely,
John Wilson.
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From: Charles Mollison
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 11:06 PM
Subject: RE: interest rates
Agreed, John.
And so that the lender can't screw the borrower, why not enshrine maximum rates of interest in our Constitution?
e-g See Chapter 19 of attached.
Regards
Charles S Mollison
Chairman
The Foundation for National Renewal
PO Box 82
Woombye, Qld, 4559
07 5442 1589
Email: constitution @ national-renewal.org.au
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From: John Wilson
Sent: Thursday, 15 January 2009 8:45 AM
Dear Charles,
And don't forget that, for a contract to be created, there must be certainty of terms, ie: they cannot be variable.
Setting daily rates of interest is only advisory, from any outside party to a contract.
The interest rates for a contract must be agreed to by both the parties to that contract for the duration of that contract....else the deed or charter is not in being and, therefore, not valid.
Yours sincerely,
John Wilson.
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From: Charles Mollison
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 9:22 AM
Subject: interest rates
Hi Folks
PLEASE don't waste any more time and energy trying to work out who sets interest rates!
Interest rates are a very important element in our economy. That is OUR ECONOMY so the people who SHOULD be setting interest rates are THE PEOPLE.
How can we do that?
By enshrining the rates we want in our CONSTITUTION.
For example, see Chapter 19 in the attachment.
How do we achieve that?
The first step is the Petition that is also attached. PLEASE help us get a MILLION signatures so we can go to step Two.
Regards
Charles S Mollison
Chairman
The Foundation for National Renewal
PO Box 82
Woombye, Qld, 4559
07 5442 1589
Email: constitution @ national-renewal.org.au