A Lesson In Admiralty Law - How To Cause The Magistrate & Prosecutor To Panic And Walk Away - End Of Case

[Note: Notes at bottom have been updated 18th June 2008 9.55am - Arthur Cristian - Love For Life Campaign]

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Hi fellow freedom seekers,

Today was Brian's day at Dandenong Magistrate Court, and what a first time performance he put in. He actually took the magistrate. and prostitutor (prosecutor) by surprise as he had not 'reported to the general enquiries desk on his arrival, however it appears evident to us that they only want you to do that so that the prostitutor can contract you prior to the defendant being called.

Anyhow he told the magistrate that he wanted to plead guilty to the facts.

The look on the mag's (and the prost's) faces was a mastercard moment.

Priceless.

He immediately tried to intimidate Brian into agreeing that he wanted to plead guilty to the charges!

Now WHY would he insist that Brian had to plead either guilty or not guilty to the charges if there was no difference between charges and facts?

Brian stuck to his guns and did not waiver from his stance.

However, after the mag got really frustrated, telling Brian that he was trying his patience and got quite red in the face, it was obviously a Mexican standoff.

At that point the prostitutor jumped in and offered that the mag do a short adjournment to allow him to discuss the case with the deft out in the foyer.

Well the prost wanted to plea bargain and offered to withdraw the 'Dog at Large in Daylight Hours' charge if Brian was prepared to nod the scone to 'Fail to Re-register Dog' charge.

So after a few minutes discussion Brian decided that on this occasion, his first ever time at court, that he would accept the prost's offer.

Back in the court, the mag, whom we expected to still be burning up inside, went through the motions of striking out the first offer, and then blow me down if he didn't say 'I find the case proven without proceeding to conviction OR FURTHER PENALTY.'

You should have seen the prost scrambling to his feet to put in the council's claim for costs!

Shit it was funny.

So all in all, Brian went from facing nearly $400 in fraudulent claims that most unfortunate slaves end up paying with barely a wimper, to only $62 in costs.

What we learned most of all today, was what Mark stated heaps of times last w/e,

'You must break their presumption!'

The only thing Brian didn't remember to do was to break their presumption that he and the deft (defendant) were one and the same.

Other than that he did very well for a first time appearance.

But very importantly Brian's performance was more than enough to make them feel the ground tremble under their feet. Even to the extent that the prost chased us up the street wanting to find out if Brian intended advising others about how to deal with them.

Next it's my own turn at the same venue on June 30.

My biggest challenge will be to not let them engage me in argument!

Warm Regards,
Michael.

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Rough Explanation Of What is Happening Here
by Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

Note: To break their (The Rules - Statutes) presumption is determining the courts jurisdiction over i.e. the fiction (The Strawman) and their alleged jurisdiction over the living flesh and blood Man.

What Brian achieved was this......

If you were driving in a 60ks per hour zone doing 70'ks per hour, the Magistrate can only see the charge (the $ - the fines - the fees in line with the statute which is the rule within a society that allegedly has the force of law),........

but the magistrate is unable to look at the facts...

i.e, did anyone get hurt or get injured [the STATE is alleging that you harmed or injured the STATE] and if so could he or she please stand before the court and make a claim that they were hurt by you driving 70ks per hour in a 60ks per hour speed limit zone.

Obviously no real flesh & blood Man can STAND.

"Its a Fictitious entity" we are talking about here (prosecutor, magistrate STATE, statutes etc are all fiction)

And this why the the magistrate and the prosecutor were panicked because Brian was saying yes I am guilty to the facts so please lets look at the facts..........

whooooooo Under Admiralty Law everything is looked upon as commerce and the rules (statutes) sees everything in $ and Maritime contract, as the presumption is that Brian is in their ship not in facts (evidence) which requires a jury.

Breaking the presumption is saying that you are not on/in or part of their their ship at sea.

If you defend a claim against you, the state sends in its prosecutor (prostitute) who has no claim because he cant STAND and so they (including magistrate) can't see the facts. What Brian did, is agree guilty to the facts and not the charges, causing the magistrate & the prosecutor to panic,.......

remember THEY CAN ONLY BRING FORWARD A CHARGE.

Breaking The Presumption

In Admiralty Law he/she is breaking the presumption... i.e.

When you bring your case forward for their non-disclosure of material facts, i.e...... the charges against you, when you, the living flesh and blood Man were not even on the ship.

So therefore you say "I Plead Guilty To The Facts" which causes the magistrate/prosecutor etc to disclose the facts or to have the facts disclosed. This is why the Magistrate panicked because then he/she is forced by burden of proof, allowing the defendant to bring up the facts such as

1. You are a real flesh and blood Man - You are not the fictitious person on their ship

2. There has to be an injured party who stands

3. There has to be a witness to back up the claim

etc etc

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

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18th June 2008

Update on rough notes provided by Mark within [ ]

To break their (The Rules - Statutes) presumption is determining the courts jurisdiction over i.e. the fiction (The Strawman) and their alleged jurisdiction over the living flesh and blood Man.

[dis in an aea dat needs coection badly. The common Law patriots talk about flesh an blood men and de gestapo/establisment love it coz we puttin our big foot in our mouth coz we ain't fl an blood but spirits wiffin a temple. On de Gold Coast 2 yrs ago during a protracted court hearing de defendant died and de Judge ultimately uled dat just coz de man died did not change the status of his persona hahahahaha a legal slip up? Doubt that, de law NEVER slips up. They tellen us 'you bimbos,de body was always dead, its a corps wemeber, wiffout de spirit its sticken wotten meat' we gotta wake up. We is spirits, de body is dead fred]

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What Brian achieved was this......

If you were driving in a 60ks per hour zone doing 70'ks per hour, the Magistrate can only see the charge (the $ - the fines - the fees in line with the statute which is the rule within a society that allegedly has the force of law),........

but the magistrate is unable to look at the facts...

[facts only come out when the hearing proceeds after de plea is entered but if no plea then there are no facts ta rule on. 'de facts are on de moon' is de court catch cry. so what are they tellin us. DON'T you bring facts into dis court pumpkin head. facts were for de defunct common law jurisdiction, we in admiralty, piracy of de high seas today yeah, coz de system recognises we were under water once, Noah's flood remeber ahahahahaha So if ya plead guitly to de facts and there ain't any established yet yaaaaaahooooooo ya nip em in de bud man.

When ya say de famous words 'I plead guilty to de facts' wot you are in fact saying is 'I am not here to argue with any alleagtions, they ae true, and I wanna maintain the honour of all parties wiff a real interest in this matter and ensure all parties are commercially whole, so Your Honour, I'm here ta settle and close this matter in honour and please issue me all the bonds in this matter so i can accept them for value and surrender them for value to the maker of de instruments who naturlly bear pimary liablity for em unless a course a thirs party dishonours those bills of exchange, but since we aint dishonouring but accepting em for value so they can be tendered thereby using our prepaid account to offset the liablty, the judgy wudgy will settle an clsoe de matter for us, and we have passed the test of being a creditor' Now if he asks ya what it means and ya testify/answer, then ya will have just unravelled ya good work and failed de test. De key of being a creditoris to RESPOND, NOT answer. Did he NOT speak wiff POWER, not as the scribes hee hee hee love it

Will be back down to do another wkshop in Melb in august]

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i.e, did anyone get hurt or get injured [the STATE is alleging that you harmed or injured the STATE] and if so could he or she please stand before the court and make a claim that they were hurt by you driving 70ks per hour in a 60ks per hour speed limit zone.

Obviously no real flesh & blood Man can STAND.

'Its a Fictitious entity' we are talking about here (prosecutor, magistrate STATE, statutes etc are all fiction)

And this why the the magistrate and the prosecutor were panicked because Brian was saying yes I am guilty to the facts so please lets look at the facts..........

[Hahah yeah there were none hahhahaha]

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whooooooo Under Admiralty Law everything is looked upon as commerce and the rules (statutes) sees everything in $ and Maritime contract, as the presumption is that Brian is in their ship not in facts (evidence) which requires a jury.

Breaking the presumption is saying that you are not on/in or part of their their ship at sea.

[arms lenghth better at de helm steering as creditor]

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If you defend a claim against you,

[(v dangerous in admiralty coz to argue is a grave dishonour that is unecoverable unless one apologises and repeants)]

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the state sends in its prosecutor (prostitute) who has no claim because he cant STAND and so they (including magistrate) can't see the facts. What Brian did, is agree guilty to the facts and not the charges, causing the magistrate & the prosecutor to panic,.......

remember THEY CAN ONLY BRING FORWARD A CHARGE.

[yep but they turn it into facts when the protitutor reads it into de court record, the claims/charges as fictional facts]

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Breaking The Presumption

In Admiralty Law he/she is breaking the presumption... i.e.

When you bring your case forward for their non-disclosure of material facts, i.e...... the charges against you, when you, the living flesh and blood Man were not even on the ship.

So therefore you say 'I Plead Guilty To The Facts' which causes the magistrate/prosecutor etc to disclose the facts or to have the facts disclosed.

This is why the Magistrate panicked because then he/she is forced by burden of proof, allowing the defendant to bring up the facts such as

1. You are a real flesh and blood Man - You are not the fictitious person on their ship

2. There has to be an injured party who stands

3. There has to be a witness to back up the claim

[all true though I have cross examined witnesses in the past and they purgered them selves but because I went that route an eliminated the witneses, it was regarded as a dishonour under admiralty to argue with the claims/charges and also I was educating the monkeys/police/lawyers so I got spanked - fined

me learned real quick NOT to argue but conditionally accpet anyfink they said as long as the claimant could prove his claim via affidavit which a cause they refuse to sign which is ok coz they don't gotta sign it but I read it into the court record that by their refusal they admit guilt to making false staements/lies with intent to in jure the party in Q and that they better have a big fat cheque book ready or lots of i nsuance OR withdraw their claim!(is dat not showing our buda mercy for which de judgy wudgy has given me lotsa browny points and even at tmes come to my rescue coz they love me wiff de entertainment me provides em hahahhahahaha )]

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etc etc
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

[hope dis helps is fun in courts we really have de power when corectly apllied hahhahahahaha]

See Also: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/4892

See Information On A Inspector U.N. Ravel Workshop 8th July 2008 In Bowral NSW Australia here: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/4898

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18th June 2008

Inspector U.N. Ravel Replied

hi Arthur, these guys went to my workship a week earlier and were prepared to have a go. Despite being babes they did fabulous and almost hit a home run ahahahhaa amazing when people stick to their guns.

The only consession was the $62 they ended up paying but they could have waved that too. They did well under the circumstances as beginners. Proud awf em. The only reason the prosecutor tried so hard to get ANY admission of guilt was they were shiting themselves that if they couldn't pin anything on Brian, then the prosecutor woulda hat ta pick up the tab and their pants turned brown.
hahahahahahaha love it.

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18th June 2008

Arthur Cristian replied to Inspector U.N. Ravel

Great Inspector U.N. Ravel, thank you so much for the feedback/unheaducation,... greatly appreciated.

What you stated here......[ They tellen us 'you bimbos,de body was always dead, its a corps wemeber, wiffout de spirit its sticken wotten meat' we gotta wake up. We is spirits, de body is dead fred........] is confirming all the work Fiona and I have been doing for the past two years.

What you/they say is spirit we call consciousness and the temple is the creation (CREATIONS) of CONSCIOUS MAN.

Conscious-living MAN is the creator of everything (EVERYTHING OF CREATION),.........

its just that conscious-living MAN, without full disclosure during very early formative years and of he/shes own doing (creations), dumbed himself/herself down in-----to a state as unconscious hu-mans ----- (STATE of unconsciousness as in State of New South Wales etc).

Its just like we were encouraged-guided-seduced-tricked-coerced-deceived etc in-----to turning down (falling) the dimmer switch of our consciousness (located at intense brightness during very early child-hood), down (falling) and down (falling) and down (falling) and down (compliments of our headucation with the fiction) through the many grey scales of unconsciousness (fiction), and eventually for some (most are lost/stuck in the grey scales of unconsciousness-fiction) end up in the black with the dimmer switch of (creation) con-tinuing to be turned down (falling from consciousness) and down (falling) and down (falling) and down (falling from consciousness) through the bottomless pit of hell (unconsciousness).

MAN is the CREATOR, not separate (divide and rule) to/from the creator. We were all headucated (brainwashed) into believing/worshiping fiction during our very early formative years..... its just that stupid dumbed-down UNCONSCIOUS hu-mans don't know (don't remember/aren't consciously aware of) what they are creating for themselves HERE AND NOW.

Look at it this way...... just scan through this interesting and most challenging communication with a "The Christ" who is "The Mirror of Truth"..... you will know the intent of these words used.... particularly take note of the dairy farmers at the milking station...... here: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/4862 - He has replied to our last post and we are replying one more time and extricating ourselves at the same time from "The Christ"/"The Mirror Of Truth" shortly. Both his last reply and our last reply will be posted together when we finally complete our last reply ....... if you remember, check this link sometime early next week.

Also check this posting by Don from Idaho Observer.... he has been in the loop of our email postings for a very long time now and has GOT-IT and nailed it.. see: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/4807 - We have communicated a few times over the past year. These links I am sharing with you and others, the postings receive many thousands of strikes. Website traffic is now reaching closely to 10,000 unique strikes per week. Not bad for a supposed controversial non-mainstream website with a supposed controversial lunatic/s at the helm.

All the best
Arthur Cristian

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18th June 2008

Inspector U.N. Ravel replied to Arthur Cristian

Yup, you've got it Arthur. Good work. Just gotta get the message out to more people. End tims are here and the implosion is THIS yr so we gotta have the oil in our lamps ready. Am storing dry food too now

Hope u can attend a workshop down there in Melb sometime or maybe organise one for yr town so we can get a community of people to comprehend this proces so they can support each other with the paperwork - administrative process and then support one another as notaries in courts and attain their remedies we are so excited up here because the communities are forming now where ever I go and the tide is changing we the people ahve the power.

Keep well down there
best regards and blessings
Inspector U.N. Ravel

Comments

Out of Date Information

In light of your recent experiences with the courts and policy enforcers, shouldn't you be updating pages like this?

Some people reading this might think you are offering a magic bullet when nothing could be further from the truth.

As your experiences show, the system will capture and imprison you and seize your property simply because it can. In spite of your best efforts regarding conditional acceptance and accepted for value, you were treated in exactly the same manner that you would have been treated if you had remained silent the whole time.

Re: Out of Date Information

Hello Greg
When dealing with actions before a magi-strate as in speeding fines (or any fine/penalty enacted by statute) that has he/she/they go before a magistrate, elected or not, these actions detailed above and performed by Brian WILL still work today, BUT he/she/they will have to be using their brain at all times, be prepared, be relaxed, not in fear, can take as many moments of silence he/she requires to think through what needs to be said next.

You/We are dealing with very clever brains trained in brilliant trickery of the worst kind.

Small victories are there to be had but this is not a remedy for most people because a) most people do not have the time to spend hours and hours every day learning what they need to know and practice the many ways of applying such tactics/strategies etc, b) most people have been so conditioned into accepting authority figures that they find it very difficult to confront them and c) the magistrates and judges only let this work when they want to and ignore it when they don't. You are right in saying that we got "nowhere" trying to cure our problems using these methods and, if you read our work, you will see that we explain all this.

However, our experiences have been very useful in providing documentation of the harm being done on a daily basis by representatives of "The Crown" who ignore their own laws whenever it suits them and refuse to take responsibility for the acts of brutality they commit against fellow men, women and children.

With us and this series of events........

Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office

Part One: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5742 - From 17th October 2008
Part Two: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6135 - From 18th December 2008
Part Three: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6295 - From 9th January 2009
Part Four: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6296 - From 14th January 2009
Part Five: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6375 - The Sick Puppy - From 20th February 2009
Part Six: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6390 - Police Officers, Sheriff’s Officers, Tow Truck Driver and State Debt Recovery Office Blatantly Ignore the Law To Rape, Pillage and Plunder The Private Property Of Fiona Cristian - From 11th March 2009
Part Seven: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6445 - Affidavit Of Truth - Letter To The Queen + Australia: Fascism is Corporatism - From 30th March 2009
Part Eight: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6652 - The Pirates Auction And The Ghost Of VSL386 - From 4th April 2009
Part Nine: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7073 - Arthur Cristian's Letter To Pru Goward MP - From 15th December 2009

we willingly used our lives as guinea pigs to document all the incontrovertible evidence of the many forms of harm doing and circulate this information over the net to reach as many men and women as possible who are asleep at the wheel and inspire them to wake up.

Prior this series of documentation listed above, we had a court case involving bank fraud: NSW Supreme Court Case: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/06/12/06/nsw-supreme-court-case - our experience with the corrupt crime syndicate of the law, politics and the media was what got us into all this in the first place. We explain a little of our many predicaments and awakenings in this recent comment here: How Do We NOT SELL OUT Our Integrity, Sincerity, etc, And Still Generate Fictional $$$$$$$ In The Meantime......: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/09/12/26/do-no-harm-community-kindom-m...

As for updating this post, this was not our experience in the court and so we cannot update it. We are always happy to post anything anyone sends up regarding their experiences in the courts as we support freedom of information/speech and the right of others to try whatever they like.

What does need to be updated and hasn't been purely due to strategic circumstances, is what happened to Fiona when she went to Moss Vale court following her kidnap (arrest) by Policy Enforcer David Brown and the charge for driving without a licence: Part Five: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6375 - The Sick Puppy - From 20th February 2009

She was advised by experienced freedom-truthers (fighting magistrates) to "plead guilty to the facts" which she did, whereupon the magistrate looked as though he had been given a Christmas present, read out the police facts and then sentenced her - one years driving ban and a $700.00 odd fine.

Before he "moved to sentencing" he was sneaky because he said to Fiona "Is there anything you wish to say before I move to..." he didn't say sentencing and Fiona didn't use her brain enough to question him so then the sentencing was done. Because this method had worked for someone else, she assumed it would work for her and then didn't know what to do when it didn't.

Fiona's problem? Her brain went blank after assuming a series of steps would automatically ensue (like dominoes falling) based on previous court hearings of similar nature. She hadn't sufficiently educated herself to comprehend the law behind what she was saying, dealing with the unpredictability of the Law, and her feelings of intimidation and trickery from the court, magistrate etc, meant she did not USE HER BRAIN to try (think through what was actually going on) other options she had worked out, such as asking the Magistrate after he finished reading out the charge/s and before he went to sentencing....... a) "who the injured party was?, the party putting their energy into this claim, the party taking full responsibility for this claim", b) "is her accuser in court? as she would like to face her accuser", etc, etc, which, in hindsight, she should have gone for anyway.

Fiona, a fulltime devoted nurturing mother of 4 young daughters, still breast feeding her youngest, a mother who has no family support as they live too far away (overseas or interstate), a woman whose brain is tired from the too many broken sleeps she endured (and still does) almost every night for many many years, she represents a large part of the female population who are mothers who don't have the time to study sufficiently to be successful challenging the law.... and why should they? Those behind the system make sure the system is far too complicated and out of reach for most people who are therefore either dependent upon the expensive lawyers who are part of the system (operating inside the box where no remedy is generally available without having to pay a heavy price to get one which includes TIME) or who have no option but to acquiesce to the demands (fees, fines, penalties etc) placed upon them by this evil system. They just pay the fines and bite their tongue.

Fiona ended up going to appeal the matter but, having pleaded guilty to the facts, she was only able to appeal the severity of sentence rather than the actual charge. This time she was far more prepared and not intimidated but was stymied in her efforts due to only being able to appeal the severity of sentence. The judge was therefore able to ignore her questions as to who the injured party was, etc, etc. After about three quarters of an hour, he refused to hear any more and said he could not reduce the ban because it was automatic and that he didn't find any grounds to reduce the fines. He also told a few porkies about the Police service, who owned them, whether they were subject to the Monopolies Act, etc.

After the hearing, Fiona ordered a copy of the transcript for her records, something we always did without any problem at the supreme court. At Goulburn the staff were very helpful, agreed to a waiver of the fees and said the recordings would take a few weeks. To our surprise, we then received a letter from them (I think) asking why she wanted the records because they had to ask Justice Bennet's permission!?????

This goes in complete contradiction to the courts official website that says any involved party is entitled to a copy of the court transcripts. Fiona faxed back a letter including the paragraph from their website saying that she required the transcript for her records and that any way she was entitled to them. She has yet to receive the transcripts and yet to follow it up. Now why did Justice Bennet not want Fiona to receive the transcript? Could it be the fact that he told a few porkies?

After the time and energy it took to do all the paperwork etc, and the detrimental effect on her younger children of never being sure if the police were going to stop them or the sheriffs arrive, Fiona decided to bow out for a while, pay her fine ($15.00 a month) and accept the driving ban which ends 17th May 2010.

The freedom stuff CAN work, but you need to be prepared to put in hours and hours of research and, as Winston Shrout says, know more than the judge, if you are really to get anywhere. Besides keeping us wrapped up in our own affairs, the legal stuff also keeps us apart, thinking of our own affairs rather than of how we can all work together to find freedom for all.

Working with a legal system designed to keep us in our place, not give us freedom, takes away the time we could be spending putting our energy into Do No Harm communities (Kindoms) that will free us all. Here is a list of our latest articles and comments regarding consciousness and Kindom posted to the Love For Life website......

The Way of Love Or The Way Of Commerce by Arthur Cristian - Love For Life - 26th December 2009:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7096

All Of The Earth Is Sacred - Correspondence About Sovereignty, Fee Simple & Free Man Between Anonymous & Arthur Cristian - 11th January 2010:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7110

What Shirt Are You Wearing? by Arthur Cristian - Love For Life - 15th January 2010:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7115

A Girl Talks To The Birds by Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 11th October 2009:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6964

A Do No Harm Community "KINDOM" Motherland In The Southern Highlands In Between Sydney & Canberra 26th December 2009:
AFTER FOUR YEARS WE HAVE FINALLY FOUND THE MOTHERLAND - NOW WE HAVE TO GET IT!:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7095

How Do We NOT SELL OUT Our Integrity, Sincerity, etc, And Still Generate Fictional $$$$$$$ In The Meantime......: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/09/12/26/do-no-harm-community-kindom-m...

There is a REMEDY..... It's Called KINDOM

All the best

Conscious Love Always

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
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A Lesson In Admiralty Law

Not knowing who Michael or Brian might be, and aware that I am not informed of all details, and not wanting to disillusion you, but you ought to consider the following:

From the report below the issues involve something to do with a dog or other and a failure to register same. This I would ultimately have, I imagine, involved an infringe/penalty notice and not a summons to appear in court. The infringement/penalty notice would provide a clause allowing you to contest the claim in court. It appears that this Brian decided to consent to a court appearance to test his newly acquired skills (?) on how to deal with the issue. If that is the correct scenario, then with respect I think that Brian showed rather than his talent, his ignorance in law and did himself no favour.

You see, an infringement notice is a commercial bill of exchange like an invoice. Now rather than claiming that the infringement has no standing and does could not create a debt in truth and reality, this Brian thought himself clever by accepting the facts as presented. He thinks that he has won something, but sorry it appears that you have lost. Even any future right to contest the claim.

You see, the proceeding, if my presumption above is correct, has nothing to do 'guilty or not' it is in a hearing instigated by Brian and not by any prosecutor. It is an appeal against the issuing of the infringement/penalty notice. That the case went against Brian is highlighted by the cost order, which would not have been granted or even been applied for, if the case was decided in Brian's favour. All that he would appear to have gained or achieved is only a fiction of his imagination. The infringement now has been enforced by the court and a warrant will be created in the Sheriff's office to the value of the amount of the infringement\penalty notice plus the $62.00 court and whatever other costs.

So nothing has been achieved, and what is worse he can no longer defend his position since he has accepted the facts and thus created his own issue estoppel.

The overcome the infringement would have been a rather simple task which does not require any court process, but that his now no longer an option for Brian. It is only for reasons like those illustrated below, that I bother to respond to mail. It is like lambs going to the slaughter guided by those who do not understand law. The lambs even believe that they are gaining something by going. I hope that I am mistaken, but fear that my interpretation is more likely to be correct.

regards

Wolter

A Lesson In Admiralty Law

I am new to this Wolter, my gut feeling is that all this can be deal with outside the court. Can you point me to the source of the information, I would like to learn more,

Boris V

A Lesson In Admiralty Law

Makes sense. I never want to go to their corp-court.
Ant

A Lesson In Admiralty Law

Thx Ant.

There are a number of issues there but fist of all yep its not so simple to make comments until all the information is at hand.

Brian would be the one to ask whether he elected to attend a hearing, and then yes to have attended is to argue by virtue of contesting it.

My question is 'how can anyone lose now' now that we have a better comprehension of commece and WHO is in commerce and WHO is not!

The penalty is only ever commercial and therefore when issued by court or the state penalties, can easlity be offset as our friend below attests to. Its a bill of exchnage so even if a commecial penalty is given, how does one lose when one can just slap on an A4V stamp. have done it numerous times.

You lose when u give fiat (that hurts) or go to gaol!

Even if Brian was summoned to court, he still cannot lose.

Its a no lose scenario if ya know who you are and who you are not.

The creditor never loses.

Yes it is also best dealt with outside court but as we all know, some organisations will not settle privately no matter wot one does, so we win in court.

I hope people compehend that as creditor, you CANNOT lose.

As for a penalty of $400 + costs being issued well I haven't seen any POC as yet so time will tell.

Een if it was issued, then sooooooooooooooooooooooo what, didn't Brian have some fun in court and now he can accept the penalty for value and ping!

How bad is that?

When will people stop arguing and ditch de fear?

Best regards
Mark

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Note: Updated Tuesday 2nd February 2010 6.40pm Sydney Time.

Love For Life does not support harm doing in any shape or form. However, we are supporters of free speech and post articles, documentaries, etc, that represent a wide cross section of ideas. See the Love For Life extensive research library where over 7000 documents, articles and videos are posted: http://loveforlife.com.au/issues. We clearly see the evidence of the destruction to MAN and the earth that has been caused by ALL religions over the centuries and are therefore not supporters of religions, cults, sects or any group that demands conformity of thought, speech or action, or has rules, regulations or rituals that must be followed. Religions, nationalities and cultural "identities" are formed as a result of the brainwashing we receive from childhood. They are part of the tactics the Establishment uses to keep us all divided from one another and fighting one another.

All religions promote discrimination and division, leading to hatred and even violence and murder. None of them have yet to produce a remedy to all the suffering, poverty, unhappiness and discrimination in the world. If any religion truly had the remedy to all the suffering on earth, there would no longer be any suffering. What have Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, atheism and the New Age done to end the suffering in the world?

The Love For Life website has information from all sides on many subjects, whether about Islam, Judaism, Christianity, Law, health, psychology, mind control, vaccination, aspartame, MSG, Chemtrails etc. There are over 6000 articles, documentaries etc on the website and they are so diverse that we are sure that everyone would be able to find something they loved and something they hated, if they took the time to search. If we removed all the articles hated by everyone, there would probably be nothing left! We are not anti anyone but freedom of speech is freedom of speech and no one should condemn the work of another without taking the time to research the subject themselves. Yes, there are articles by those who have a less-than-rosy-viewpoint of Judaism, but there are also articles on the dark side of Tibetan Buddhism (and it is very dark) for those who are interested in the truth: Tibet - Buddhism - Dalai Lama: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6271 Should the authors of these articles be abused and imprisoned for daring to challenge the widely conceived reputation of Buddhism as being the religion of peace and love and that of the Dalai Lama as a saint, or should those interested be allowed to study the work and come to their own conclusions? The same applies to all the articles, documentaries, etc, about Christianity, Islam, Freemasonry, New World Order, etc.

The Love for Life website also shows how the Rule of Law, the Bar, the Government, the Monarchy, the system of commerce, the local, national and multi/trans-national private corporations, all the courses and careers on offer from our universities, all the educators, scientists, academics and experts, the aristocrats and the Establishment bloodlines have also done NOTHING to end the suffering in the world. The website maps the insanity of a world where there is no help for those in need, just as there was no help available for us when we were victims of terrible bank fraud: http://loveforlife.com.au/court_case (orchestrated, condoned and protected by an international crime syndicate/terrorist organisation of judges, barristers, registrars, lawyers, politicians, banksters, big business representatives, media moguls and other lackeys who, all together, put up a wall of silence despite our trying many, many avenues. After the family home was stolen and business destroyed we were left close to poverty and destitution caring for 4 young daughters. Three years later not much has changed regardless of all our efforts. Where were all the followers of all the religions to help us? Or do we have to be members of those religions to receive help from others involved in them?

We have been accused of being anti - Jewish because we had posted an excerpt from James von Brun's book: Kill the Best Gentiles! http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6054 in which he blames Jews for the problems of the world. Obviously this is not our view because of what we have stated above. We do not hate anyone, whatever religion they follow. We are always open to talk to any religious leader or politician and meet with any judge, member of the Bar, experts, academics, educators etc to share the remedy we offer that heals all the divisions between MAN and MAN, and MAN and the EARTH.

Today, a representative of the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies is threatening to close the website down, because they have decided it is anti - Jewish and that we promote racism. What has the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies done to end the suffering in the world? Can they show that they are concerned with the suffering of ALL men, women and children AND ARE SEEN TO BE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT or are they only concerned with Jewish affairs? If so, they, along with all the other religions that only care for their own, are part of the problem, not part of the solution. The man who rang Arthur today was only concerned with Jewish affairs; he was not interested in our intentions or in anybody else, just as most Christians, Muslims, Sikhs, Catholics, etc, are only interested in their own. While we separate ourselves into groups, dividing ourselves from others with rules, regulations, rituals, procedures and conditions, we will never solve our problems.

No matter what we in the Western World Civilisation of Commerce have been promised by our politicians, religious leaders, scientists, educators, philosophers, etc, for the past two hundred years, all we have seen is ever-increasing destruction of men, women and children and the earth. None of the so-called experts and leaders we have been taught to rely on are coming up with a solution and none of them are taking full-responsibility for the fact that they can't handle the problem. All religious books talk about end times full of destruction and suffering but why do we have to follow this program when there is an alternative to hatred, mayhem and death? Why are our leaders following the program of destruction and death rather than exploring the alternatives? It seems that any mainstream politician, priest or academic are only interested in supporting the RULES OF THE DIVIDE, that maintain the haves and the have nots. For 200+ years, 99% of the world population have been so trained to pass on their responsibility for themselves, others and the earth, that the 1% of the population that make up the leaders of the rest of us are making all the decisions leading to the destruction of all of us and the earth. Let's not forget the education system that brainwashes the 99% of the population that we are free and have equal rights while, in fact, we are feathering the nests of those at the top.

At the root of all our problems is self-centredness, an unwillingness nurtured by the Establishment that keeps us concerned only with our own needs rather than the needs of others around us and the Earth. Instead of creating and releasing acts of love for those around us as gifts to benefit them and the earth, we take, take and take, until there is nothing left. The whole point of the Love for Life website is to show people the root of all our problems and to share the remedy. The extensive research library is there to attract browsers and to provide access to information not available through mainstream channels. If the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies can, after careful examination of our work, prove that anything we are saying is wrong, we will be happy to accept their proof. If they cannot, and they are still insistent on closing the website down, they will be showing themselves to be traitors to MAN because they are not interested in pursuing any avenue that can end the suffering in the world.

All religions, corporations and organisations that support and maintain the Western World Civilisation of Commerce are part of the problem because our civilisation is a world of haves and have nots, racism, violence, hatred, poverty, sickness, discrimination, abuse, starvation, homelessness, corruption, collusion, vindictiveness, social unrest, arrogance, ignorance, fear, war and chaos. While we support civilisation, we support death and destruction because ALL civilisations that have ever existed are apocalyptic by design.

If we truly want peace on earth and freedom for all, we have to let go of all that which keeps us divided, and come together as MAN, conscious living co-creators of creation. The Love For Life website offers a remedy to the problems we all face in the form of DO NO HARM COMMUNITIES: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3641 For more details see here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6511 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 - We also highly recommend that everyone read the brilliant Russian books called The Ringing Cedars: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1125 - The Love For Life homepage/front-page also provides lots of inspiring remedy based information: http://loveforlife.com.au - If you want to be kept up to date with our work please register to the Love For Life mailing list here: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/09/05/14/campaign-mailing-list We usually send two postings per month. Presently there are over 4600 registrations reaching over 200,000 readers globally. The website now receives over 7 million strikes per month with January 2010 reaching almost 7.2 million strikes.

Conscious Love Always
Arthur and Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
17th June 2009