THE DECEPTION OF CAESAR by Arthur & Fiona Cristian 28th September 2008

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The Cristian Family November 2006 THE DECEPTION OF CAESAR
You Cannot Be In Cahoots With The Devil Without Selling Your Soul
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
28th September 2008

http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5581

Illustrations created by David Dees (bar last one - Kindom - creator unknown)

In reply to an email "A Request For Help" from Alex Young including comments to Alex from freedom/truth seekers, see below http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5581#comments

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Note: This article is incomplete. Regular updates will occur until its completed in a few days.

For those who are new to our work, we suggest reading the following articles to assist you in comprehending some of the terms we use, e.g., "Fiction", "Kindom", "Substance", "Intellectual Proprietary Knowledge On Offer":

Summary Of The New Booklet Life is for the Living – The True Steps of Freedom By Arthur and Fiona Cristian 19th May 2008: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/4651

What Are We Waiting For? By Fiona And Arthur Cristian 25th July 2008:
http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5147

THE WAY by Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 9th August 2008:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5231

The Way Out by Fiona Cristian 30th July 2008 - Taken From Fiona Cristian email replies:
http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5203

Recognising The Distinction Between Information That Is CREATION & The Knowledge That Is FICTION Is Critical To Reclaiming Freedom by Arthur Cristian 13th July 2008:
http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5079

Prelude To Our Next Article "The Substance Of Creation & Conscious-Living DNA" By Arthur & Fiona Cristian - 12th September 2008
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5505

WHAT'S YOUR INTENT? - Escapees From The Western World "Civilisation" by Arthur & Fiona Cristian 18th September 2008
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5542 - This article now includes David Dee's illustrations and lots of conscious-living health information.
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"RENDER UNTO CAESAR THE THINGS WHICH ARE CAESAR'S
AND UNTO GOD THE THINGS THAT ARE GOD'S"

Dear Alex
“Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s”
(“Ἀπόδοτε οὖν τὰ Καίσαρος Καίσαρι καὶ τὰ τοῦ Θεοῦ τῷ Θεῷ”) (Matthew 22:21).

This statement is an example of how the establishment twists the truth to suit its agenda. The true interpretation (explanation) of this statement by the Great MAN of long-ago is as follows........

Things are of the material fiction (without substance) and are not of the living. They are dead and have no life-force, unlike the substance of the living God created by the living God for creation. The above statement should be read as.....

“Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto the Creator the substance that is of the Creator”

This statement clearly defines the distinction between the two worlds of FICTION and SUBSTANCE, one being dead and of the dead and the other being living and of the living.

But there ain't two worlds.

There is only creation with MAN unable to escape outside or inside creation. The dead world of fiction is an artificially contrived, second level creation that tries to superimpose itself over the real world of creation (substance). It is only destroyed creation (destroyed substance) manipulated into contrived forms imagined by fallen hu-mans who are also remnants of destroyed creation.

HU-MAN

A hu-man is a man/woman unconscious of consciousness and oblivious to the harm he/she is causing through his/her day-to-day actions. A hu-man is unwilling to be a team player consciously working with the rest of the life forms of creation to create the substance of creation that aids creation in rolling along here and now. Instead, a hu-man destroys, or supports the destruction of conscious-living life-forms, preferring to use the dead things of a dead world to create their life out of, believing they are creating their real lives when they are actually destroying them.

With MAN unable to separate from the substance that is creation, all that MAN can do is destroy the substance that is him/herself, others, nature and the earth while in the act of believing (imagining) that the substance of he/she is not part of creation, that the substance of others is not part of the substance of him or her and that the substance of all other life-forms of creation, inanimate or not, are not part of the substance of him or her either.

Only when MAN imagines him/herself to be separated from the rest of creation is he/she able to destroy it.

Separation only occurs when he/she believes in (copies) Fiction.

THE FICTION

The fiction is made up of the constructs we believe in that were invented (imagined) out of thin air. It is not of the living God because it does not have the substance of the living God. The fiction is about copy-right (the right of copy) and while you engage in commerce, which is copy-right material (things), you are in the fiction under-the-standing of the copy-right holder. While in the fiction you are willingly copying the intellectual proprietary knowledge "on offer" by the copy-right holder, willingly entering into a con-tract with the copy-right holder and an agreement to pay a fee, consciously or not, for renting (copying -believing in) the copy-right holders intellectual property. (Read this article for more information on this subject: "THE WAY by Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 9th August 2008 http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5231 )

The time you spend in the fiction is the time your fees are clocking up.

Lets say this again with a different slant ... The time you spend in the fiction is the time your destruction to creation is clocking up.

Lets say this again - The time you spend in the fiction is the time your destruction to creation is clocking up.

All bank accounts, credit cards, mortgages, loans, fiat, promissory notes, bills-of-exchange, bonds, drafts etc are the intellectual property of the copy-right holder (things) including any other intellectual instrument (including vessel) used in commerce such as an invoice, statement, receipt, bill, fee, fine, penalty, charge, permit, title, certificate, registration, license, passport, form, census, etc, (hundreds of them). These are tools of destruction to creation and, as you are part of creation, these tools are destroying the creation of the MAN that you are while you engage with them.

The knowledge "on offer" in the fiction does not bear the substance of conscious-living creation and are unable to engage with MANS senses of creation. The knowledge "on offer" is made up of thought forms invented out of thin air, appearing like apparitions, demons or ghosts to delude us with their illusions, fantasies, fairytales and lies. These stories of the fiction require MANS belief in them to appear as if they exist and as if they are part of creation when, in truth, they do not exist at all, are not part of conscious-living creation, do not aid creation in rolling along here and now, are unable to stand or walk or talk and are unable to create. Without having the substance of creation, they are unable to maintain their own existence, are unconscious and dead.

The fiction is just destroyed creation created by fallen MAN who believes in fiction (fairytales), here and now.

As every step and every breath is an act of creation here and now, and as we are creation here and now, what we do here and now either destroys or benefits creation here and now. We are unable to walk to or from creation as we (MAN) are creation here and now. Creation is not over there while we are over here. Everything we do, from moment to moment, is either destroying or benefiting creation, here and now.

HOW FAR CAN YOU RUN?

In most cases thus far, those who have used commercial-redemption, honour-dishonour, admiralty law etc (things) to keep the wolves at bay, managing not to pay their dues (fees) to the copy-right holder for many years, have ended up losing. Either their bank accounts (things) have been garnished by the copy-right holder, their commercial valued assets (of commerce) have been seized by the copy-right holder to cover the outstanding fees incurred for the rental of the intellectual property of the copy-right holder, or they have had their instruments of commerce (things), used for conducting business in commerce, cancelled/suspended/removed/closed/lost/destroyed etc.

While in the fiction, no matter which way you turn, the copy-right holder has got you by the balls here and now because you are renting (believing-in copying) the copy-right holder's intellectual proprietary knowledge "on offer". Not only is the copy-right holder destroying creation here and now but, when you are renting his intellectual property, you are aiding and abetting his destruction to creation here and now as well. The Fiction already is destruction to creation here and now and so are you while you believe in it.

You are not apart from destruction you are a part of destruction.

To the copy-right holder, the evidence the copy-right holder has of you renting the copy-right holders intellectual property (proprietary knowledge) is extensive, starting with the use of mathematics (the basis of commerce), the English language (used to convey the constructs of the fiction), all other read and write alphabet languages and every con-struct that is understood by you through the establishment education you received to comprehend such con-structs.

These are all the things of Caesar, with Caesar acting as fee collector for the Establishment he represents. The power of Caesar is Caesar's organisation consisting of Caesar's extended blood-line families (the establishment), the rule-of-law/courts-of-law, the government and its statutes and the private corporations who together act on behalf of the copy-right holder as its authorised representatives, administering the affairs of the copy-right holder, that being the collecting of fees from those under contract, in a STATE of belief in Caesar's con-structs.

SUBSTANCE

The substance of the living God of creation is free without a fee and offers the only remedy to Caesar's world. The substance of creation is the natural world; the trees, rivers, flowers, fruits, air, etc, that give of themselves freely without contracts, fees or demands, that the rest of creation may benefit and prosper. This is the love of creation that is the world of creation that is vital to our existence. We could easily exist without TVs, cars, roads and Maccas, but could we exist without air, water and real, living food here and now?

The world of creation (substance) is about selflessly creating acts of love (substance) for those around you here and now, taking care of those around you as they take care of those around them so everyone is taken care of here and now. Take care of love (create substance) and love (the substance) takes care of everything else.

With creation every life-form of creation, inanimate or not, bears the substance of conscious-living creation and that substance bears the information (consciousness) of creation, created by each life-form of creation. The substance engages and activates with MANS senses of creation that are sight, sound, touch, taste, feel, smell/scent, testifying/confirming that it is real, true, conscious, part of reality and does not require 3rd parties to exist. The evidence that they aid conscious-living creation in rolling along here and now is incontrovertible.

The only remedy to the chaos of Caesar's world (a dead world of things) is out of Caesar's world in the world of creation, creating with the living substance of the living God. While we remain in Caesar's world, playing with Caesar's dead toys, speaking with Caesar's dead languages, living in Caesar's dead houses, driving Caesar's dead cars, sending our children to Caesar's dead schools, attending Caesar's dead universities and joining Caesar's dead workforce, we are creating, supporting and maintaining Caesar's dead world (of things) which means we are creating, supporting and maintaining brainwashing, hunger, disease, poverty, pollution, greed, selfishness, lies, secrets, chaos and destruction to creation here and now.

ARE YOU IN COMFORTABLE DENIAL?

There are many in the Freedom network who want to be "free" of the fees (things) of Caesar's world but have no intention of giving up the comforts and "possessions" (things) of Caesar's world. You want to keep your fenced in land, cars, power, roads, alcohol, entertainment and other "things" of Caesar's world but you don't want to pay the price for having them. This is impossible. You cannot be in cahoots with the devil without selling your soul.

While you are focusing on and maintaining Caesar's dead world of dead things you are creating and feeding it. Caesar's dead world of dead things only exists because we believe in (worship) dead things that prop up Caesar's dead world which is why we keep creating this abomination within the world of creation. As we put our energy into Caesar's dead things, so Caesar's forces increase their power and control and, when it suits them, they will come in to squash the ants that nibble their toes.

The fact is, while you are in Caesar's world, challenging Caesar using Caesar's laws, courts etc, creation is being destroyed here and now and you are part of the problem. The more we focus on and support Caesar, the more we are destroying creation and we have to take full responsibility for this. How can you not be responsible for creation when you are part of creation here and now? And how can we not be responsible for the destruction of creation when we are the ones creating the destruction here and now?

Caesar exists because we exist to believe in Caesar. What do you think will happen if we stop believing in Caesar and everything of Caesar's dead world? Can you see why The Establishment Of Fallen MAN Of True Freemasonry has worked so very hard across their recorded ages to keep men, women and children believing in (focused on) their fiction. They are masters at disguising the true effect of their destruction upon us and the natural world and experts at brainwashing us into believing that its all OK. The lullabies they send out through their media, religions, education, etc, rock us into our state of comfortable denial.

As we said in our article "What's Your Intent?" ( http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5542)

"Remember the very pretty lolly wrappers with the very NICE tasting lollies FULL OF ASPARTAME. At the moment we are living in a world of very "nice" men and women who are destroying the earth "nicely", all the while keeping to the silent agreement that none of us confront each other about the harm we are doing or supporting so that none of us have to give up our "lifestyles" and start cleaning up the mess. When we run off to other parts of the world that haven't yet been destroyed, bringing with us our western world destruction, we remain in comfortable denial. Make sure you always keep a spare pair of rose-coloured glasses handy in case anyone tries to give you the full picture - just slip them on while they are looking the other way and they will soon stop their rant about responsibility and do no harm."

MARCHING TO THE BEAT OF A DIFFERENT DRUM

There is no substance in the songs they sing. Where is the substance in science or mathematics or engineering or religion or Jesus or New Age? The substance of the living God exists ONLY here and now. Would the living God of creation hide its substance from its creations behind an invisibility cloak? How would little children feel if the substance that is their parents hid behind curtains, breaking off all contact with them forever? There is no separation between substance and substance, between you and the air, between you and earth, between you and God. So where is the substance of Jesus in your life here and now if you cannot see, hear, feel, touch, taste and smell him here and now?

The point is, these religions and faiths keep you comfortably numb because they keep you in the fiction and tell you there is no other way, allowing the establishment to keep reaping the benefits of your enslavement, but of course, even the establishment won't benefit when the destruction they are causing reaches the point of self-implosion of their world of fiction. Their world was conceived in destruction, is destruction and will end in destruction. It is impossible to escape the destruction so why do we want to waste our time on this dead world of destruction?

In the end everything back-fires, no matter how many pairs of rose coloured glasses they hand out.

ARE YOU WEARING ROSE COLOURED GLASSES?

And what are these "Rose Coloured Glasses"? They are all the beliefs of fiction that you hang on to here and now that have you in a state of denial about the harm you are doing to creation here and now, allowing you to pass the buck and not take full responsibility for the destruction you are causing here and now.

We are drowning in messages proclaiming our truth and freedom; from the bank commercials to the New Age channels to the priest on the pulpit to the politician bellowing in parliament to the dribbling experts on current affairs to the education we are forced into, to the backpacker trail, we are sold the idea that truth and freedom are within our grasp. As we hum along to the catchy tunes, we fail to notice that the tools we are offered to reach this "truth and freedom" are all of the world of fiction, of things, ensuring that we never manage to escape.

All the advice on offer in the freedom networks is about using Caesar's things. How can those in Caesar's world provide you with advice on freedom and truth when there is no truth or freedom to be found in Caesar's world? That's like asking for marital advice from a single man or woman!

WHAT WE FOCUS ON IS WHAT WE CREATE

While we continue creating Caesar's world by focusing, protecting and holding onto Caesar's things, we are all inmates in the Asylum of Comfortable Denial. The Freedom network is full of brilliant minds using cleverness to out do Caesar using Caesar's words (things) and Caesar's knowledge (things) but always projecting (Caesar's Things) and creating Caesar's dead world.

The Bible, which is the basis of Honour Dishonour, was written by "The Establishment" * (Caesar) so they could twist their lies around the truths it contains. The Bible is one of Caesar's things and therefore not of the world of creation. You cannot be of both worlds - either you are of creation or of the fiction. Either you focus on creating acts of love that benefit all of creation and do no harm here and now or you are maintaining the destruction.

If you want to unravel the Bible, to identify the truths and the lies, look for the substance in each word, sentence and phrase and see if the substance exists here and now. If it does, all your senses of creation (sight, sound, touch, taste, feel, smell/scent) will be activated and engaged with that substance of creation (truth) here and now. If you cannot experience substance with all your senses of creation here and now, then what you are reading is lies and can only appear to take shape in the world of fiction, being thought forms or demons or apparitions or THINGS.

FOCUSING ON FICTION PROJECTS YOU INTO A STATE OF COMFORTABLE DENIAL

Honour Dishonour, Redemption, Common Law, Biblical Law, Trial By Jury, etc, do not offer the remedy to our problems. Only returning to the world of creation will make Caesar's dead world fade away.

While we remain in comfortable denial there will always be greed, selfishness, power and control trips, sickness, chaos, poverty, hunger, injustice, unfairness, wars, and destruction and the natural world will continue dying until it reaches the point where it can no longer sustain us. Then where will Honour Dishonour get us?

The time you spend using Caesar's things is the time you spend destroying, destroying, destroying, destroying, destroying.... the conscious-living world of substance.

*[Cut and pasted from this incomplete/unedited article: "Prelude To Our Next Article - "The Substance Of Creation And Conscious-Living DNA" by Arthur & Fiona Cristian: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5505

"Before the 1780s and for 10,000 years, the only people to speak read and write alphabet languages that expressed the constructs of the Establishment (French, Latin, English etc) were the 0.01% (100 per one million) of the global population who were the ruling classes, royal houses/families, the high priest-hoods, the land lords, the owners of the castles, the wealthy aristocrats and all their lackeys.

You had to be privileged to learn any read and write alphabet language which took the best part of 20 years to master. The commoners spoke their village talk that were based on the senses of creation, hot, cold, taste, etc, and had no words to express Western World constructs. When commoners dragged off to war overheard their leaders/masters/nobles/generals/admirals talking to each other in Latin, French or English etc, they had no idea what their superiors were talking about.

Only those who could read or write any alphabet language were able to record history and, as the victors always write their history, their records were biased. 99.99% of the global population (999,900 per one million) had nothing to do with recording history, meaning that none of today's 6 billion+ population or their ancestors had anything to do with recording history. Only a very tiny select few wrote our history and they were The Establishment Of Fallen Man. This has been going on since Ancient Egypt, roughly 10,000 years ago, when sacred geometry and read and write alphabet languages were first invented. The lying Freemasons call Ancient Egypt of 10,000 to roughly 3,600 years ago "Atlantis"."]

A CONTRIVED WORLD

The world of fiction is a contrived one that is designed for us using mathematics and alphabet languages to brainwash us, rather than a world we have created by using our feelings and inspirations to guide us. When we want to create a baby we don't sit down and work out its measurements and what materials we will need to build it. We just follow our feelings and our consciousness creates them. We don't need mathematics to eat, drink and be a part of creation. We are already a part of creation so we don't have to contrive it. There is no mathematics in creation or in the arts, crafts, songs and poetry of the old tribes. They just followed their feelings and intuition and created with loving substance. All the great conscious-living tribes of long ago created their homes like this, the result being that each tepee, yurt, or lodge was unique, an expression of the consciousness of the maker. Compare this to the soulless suburbs of our towns and cities, full of similar houses that have been picked where we pick our homes from a few designs.

The lies of the Establishment have us believe in a Grand Plan based on time, space, measurement etc. which is reflected in the commerce you use and rely on. Imagine the consequences of contriving a baby; clones, genetically manipulated features and characteristics no doubt resulting in a sameness as everyone seeks the maximum beauty, intelligence and physical prowess for their off spring. It's already bad enough with the Hollywood set all choosing their noses, breasts and lips from a catalogue. The same "Grand Plan" can be found in Caesar's religions, commerce, law, government, democracy, education, alphabet languages, history, etc, leading to more uniformity. Thus we have in place the deep rooted conditioning that makes the sheeple follow the one in front and ignore their uniqueness which, of course, is The Grand Plan.

When we try to contrive energy sources, space travel, telecommunications, etc the result is the destruction and chaos we experience today. The trouble is, everyone is so brainwashed they have forgotten their power to create so, instead of creating ourselves as freemen and being the freemen that we already are, we go through torturous, contrived processes to become contrived freemen and contrived sovereigns, based on knowledge we have gathered (things) that is not of our own creation and that has no substance of the living God of creation. We are helping each other, using Caesar's knowledge to make ourselves supposedly "free" in the dead world of Caesar whereas, in reality we are still under-the-standing of Caesar's world, with Caesar, the impostor, acting as God.

Why do we want to be moulding ourselves into these constructs? We already are unique, free men and women if only we will shake off our shackles, turn away from fiction and start creating free lives.

PICK YOUR ENCLOSURE

A truly free man does no harm and has nothing to sell. Everything of creation benefits from his actions. A contrived man benefits nothing and has nothing to offer because he is still in the fiction projecting and creating the fiction. The Establishment of Caesar's world welcomes the Freedom movement because it does not pose a threat so they are happy to provide a "freedom" enclosure. They even provide leaders for the enclosures, men like David Icke, Jeff Rense and Alex Jones who claim to be anti-establishment but never offer a remedy to get us out from under the thumb despite all the knowledge they offer. (Refer "James Bond Syndrome" here: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5231).

In a world of confusion, with so many claiming to know the way, this is how to spot the deceivers; those who offer no escape from the fiction, whose theories, ideas, knowledge and practice keep us within the fiction, are not offering freedom.

On the surface we hear their admonishments to appease those they represent but underneath the Pope holds hands with the President who holds hands with the Prime Minister who holds hands with the Queen who holds hands with the Bankster who holds hands with the Professor who holds hands with the Academic who holds hands with the Educator who holds hands with the Journalist who holds hands with the Dalai Lama who holds hands with the Expert who holds hands with the Mullah who holds hands with the Chairman who holds hands with the Judge who holds hands with the Barrister who holds hands with the Lawyer who holds hands with the Primary Stock Holder who holds hands with The Establishment and all together they form the fabric woven by the secret hand-shake alliance of The Establishment Of Fallen MAN'S True Freemasonry.

This alliance controls the Roman Catholic Church with its vast wealth, the government, the law, private corporations, banks, institutions, etc, providing this evil cabal with immense power and control which is the ONLY cause of greed, selfishness, poverty, malnutrition, homelessness, starvation, injustice, stress, trauma, fear, depression, uncertainty, suicide, chaos, war, destruction, etc, across all their recorded history (his-story). Regardless of the various appointments through the ages, the carousel keeps revolving as the True Freemasonry characters hop on and off, the grand plan always in the background no matter who may be "in power".

Only those who offer a remedy to the fiction, a way out of the fiction, are truly showing the way to freedom. Everyone else is compromised or severely brainwashed. Unfortunately, many with good hearts have already been murdered in a thousand and one ways. As part of the Grand Plan, any good-hearted soul with influence over public thinking must be eradicated as they represent a real threat to the True Freemasons, contrived, long-term-planned, New World Order agenda (one world government, law, religion, commerce, money, education, language, history, microchipped population of around 500 million, etc). The evil cabal does not want insurmountable resistance to be in their way as they push ahead down the final straight to victory.

WHY ARE YOU ASKING FOR HANDCUFFS?

When we study our history books and our law books to learn about the times when we thought we had certain "rights" or "trial by jury" (in fact those privileges only existed for the chosen few) and then clamour in the courts to have those "rights" back, we are merely asking to default back to a previous enclosure. This is fine by the Establishment because they had us all under control when we were in that particular enclosure too. Remember that they wrote the history books and the law books (no one else did) so they don't have a problem when we try to contrive our lives out of them.

A true freeman would never need trial by jury or common law rights because he/she would never do harm, make accusations or be accused. The situation wouldn't arise. A true freeman is a conscious-living MAN always creating acts of love (substance) to benefit creation. Only men, women and children lost to fiction (things) believe they require trial-by-jury (thing), common law (thing), honour-dishonour (thing), democracy (thing), free enterprise (thing), United Nations (thing) etc because they have forsaken the living God (substance) for the "Grand Planned" dead God of fiction.

CAESAR'S COMMERCE

Money, commerce, insurance, banking, government, rule of law, courts of law and big business are all Caesar's abominations, aspects that form the dead world of fiction. Just as our blood supply pumps through our bodies, connecting our glands and organs, and consciousness connects the stars, planets and all of creation, so commerce is the artificial blood supply of the fiction, propping up the "things" (artificial organs & glands) of Caesar; the establishment, government, rule-of-law/courts-of-law, private corporations, banks, insurance, etc, that hold up this dead second-level creation (artificial universe). There is no substance of creation in money and commerce and all their derivatives; they are merely the inventions of Caesar contrived out of destroyed creation. Without our belief in them they do not exist and, without them, we do not need government, courts, laws etc. Consciousness (the substance of the living God) already provides us with everything we need.

The world of fiction is like a fairytale that we enter, creating a strawman so that we may become a character in the fairytale and using the "things" of the fairytale to live in the fairy tale. As Pharaoh before him Caesar offers all the knowledge of his fictitious universe for you to craft a fictitious life within his universe because, by accepting his knowledge "on offer", you enter into a contract and allow yourself to be governed by Caesar who acts as God. You have left creation to join Caesar's world. You have signed a contract to hell and agreed to be governed by Caesar. (The word "Caesar" can, of course, be interchanged with the word "Satan".)

Compare this with the information of creation that is provided for free for us to work with as we create our own, unique lives however we wish, so long as we do no harm. When we live for creation doing no harm we do not need commerce or trade or money or laws or government or insurance.

If you don't want to be contracted to Caesar, you have to be prepared to leave everything of Caesar's behind. If you want to be in the real world, you have to close the book, discarding your character and all its props as you do so. For more on the Fairytale of the Fiction see "THE WAY" http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5231

RESISTANCE IS FUTILE

In the end, creation always wins. You may choose to return to creation while your physical body is still alive or, even if you die with your head in the fiction, your body will still end up assimilating with creation. Those of the establishment, the Freemasons and all the lackeys that support them (their physical bodies) will return to creation as their world collapses, again, either through their death or their choice to live a different way.

If they have not returned to creation (acts of love) before their death in their physical body, their link to consciousness (substance of creation) remains severed (obsolete) and, bodies gone, they have nothing of substance to create acts of consciousness (substance) with.

The tool of creation (substance) is the living-body of MAN. Lose (forsake - ignore - reject - deny - rebel against) the tool of creation and we lose our GOD-GIVEN ability to create substance and without substance "Its All Over", You have lost your ability to create life (your unique conscious-living life) and participate as a conscious-living-willing co-creator of creation.

To be part of consciousness (substance) we must be creating consciousness (substance); if we have not been creating consciousness at the time of the shift of our physical body (maintaining our links with creation), how can we rejoin creation?

If you fill a child's body with poison, killing the child, it can no longer be part of your family. If you fill your body with fiction, it can no longer be part of the family of creation.

Resist our information all you like but, in the end, there is no other remedy.

WHAT ARE YOU PROJECTING?

We experience what we project because we are not separate from creation. We cannot escape what we create. When we paint a wall, we see it there before us. When we make a salad, there it is. The Universe is our creation just as the salad is our creation. We are not at the mercy of the patterns of the stars and the planets, rather it is them that are influenced by us (MAN). When two people love each other, they each create the love (substance) that forms their relationship (the substance of their relationship). If one of them stops creating love for the other, the relationship will fade away and die. The love (substance) MAN creates for creation is what keeps creation rolling along; if MAN stopped creating life through loving life, the sun, which is the reflection (substance) of our love, would fade away.

The problem the freedom/truth movement has is that almost everyone is focusing on fiction (things) instead of substance which means they are not focusing on love. Hence the bickering, dissension, back stabbing, arrogance and righteousness that keeps everyone separate instead of united. Remember; what you focus on is what you create. Have a look at the comments posted here: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5367#comments and here: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5542#comments to see how much time is focused on things.

Where is the substance here and now?

Who is creating the substance of creation, here and now while we argue over the "prime creator" or "Jesus" or the Bible or Honour Dishonour or trial by jury? What are any of us doing for creation to keep creation rolling along while we argue about these things?

If relationships can't survive without the substance, how can anything else?

Without substance, we are left with "things" that can only destroy us as is reflected in the chaos of our attitudes and behaviour that are without love.

We are being destroyed and destroying.

It is the same with our destruction; we create it and we experience it so, if we create enough destruction to attract Nibiru (Planet X), we surely will experience it! (Please read "THE WAY" http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5231 and "What Are We Waiting For" http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5147 for more information about Nibiru and how fallen hu-mans created it).

LET'S PROJECT THIS

Before MAN fell, every step and every breath was an act of creation. None of the abominations of fiction had been invented so MAN was surrounded only by creation. There was no separation between the substance of MAN and the substance of creation. When MAN travelled, there were no boundaries, borders, countries, republics or monarchies and MAN did not need passports or visas. When MAN met members of another tribe, MAN saw only creation, as did the other tribe who welcomed MAN and all-together shared what they had (the substance of their co-creation with creation). No one saw races, colours or creeds and no one was better or worse, no one was number one or number two. How could you compare one unique MAN with another unique MAN?

Today, we are categorized, divided and ruled as the chosen ones carve up the substance of creation. We constantly compare and are compared, as we align ourselves with separated groups based on colour, religion, nationality, career, looks, wealth and interests, often being prepared to die rather than let go of the fairytale character we have formed in the image of our chosen group.

WHAT"S YOUR INTENT ?

As with everything, the intent behind what you do is of vital importance. If you are using the tools of fiction as a stepping stone for yourself and others to get out of the fiction, then why not? For example, if you are using Honour Dishonour as a means to collapse the system so no one need suffer under it any more, then your intention is supporting and benefiting creation. However, if you are using Honour Dishonour solely for personal gain while others who do not know what you do still get done over by the system, you are allowing the destruction to continue. You have created no substance.

CAN YOU TELL THE DIFFERENCE?

We feel that once anyone can clearly recognise the distinctions between creation and fiction they will be able to free themselves of all the bullshit mind-control that has caused MAN to fall from consciousness into a deep-sleep state of unconsciousness and, in doing so, will be able to apply the remedy that will set him/her free from all the destruction being created by him/her to creation.

Remember; all that exists is creation here and now and we (MAN) are the creators of creation.

Without MAN to feel and think creation here and now, who is there to feel and think creation here and now for MAN?

How can creation exist if there is no MAN to feel and think creation here and now?

The past and the future requires MAN to exist here and now.

Without MAN existing here and now both the past and the future cannot be!

All of MAN that ever was and ever will be is the consciousness (information) of the living God existing here and now as MAN.

MAN is not divided to be ruled!

Instead MAN is the information and creator of creation.

The fish cannot exist without the ocean and the ocean cannot exist without the fish. All fish are of equal importance for the ocean's existence and the fish always exist here and now, thus the ocean exists here and now. If the fish were of the past or the future, the ocean could only be of the past or future, too.

The unbroken conscious-living DNA (information) of MAN links all of MAN that ever was and ever will be as MAN, the creator of creation here and now. MAN is the fish in the ocean that is consciousness. The fish do not claim ownership of the ocean and the ocean does not claim ownership of the fish, thus both are free.

All the fish that ever were fed the ocean with the information of their creation here and now and all the fish that ever will be tap into this information, adding the information of their creation to expand the information (substance) that is the ocean of the fish creation here and now.

Existence depends on substance and neither the past nor the future have any substance. They require MAN to feel and think thoughts of the past and future here and now which provide the past (a construct) and the future (a construct) with a form (an appearance) as if they exist (things), here and now, as part of creation, when in truth they do not exist.

Neither the past nor the future can provide you with air to breathe here and now. Your breath is your life here and now. If you hold onto your breath you no longer live here and now. We keep breathing as long as our bodies are able, but we willingly cast off other connections with consciousness as we eat dead food processed in the past, live in dead houses and generally revolve our lives around dead "things", entering a suspended, fallen, dead state of unconsciousness as we are no longer of life here and now and have stopped loving here and now, which means we have stopped creating here and now.

Deprived of substance we are empty vessels reliant on outside knowledge to survive our fallen state.

In this fallen state (negative, destructive emotions*), we have fallen into the past or the future which don't exist so we no longer exist as a part of creation. We no longer have the consciousness of the information of creation to create our lives from and become apparitions clinging to past or future knowledge as our anchor.

If the fish stopped creating the information (substance) for the substance that is the ocean, the ocean would die. If MAN stops creating for creation, both MAN and creation die.

Only the here and now exists and only MAN and MANS creation exists here and now.

Time and space (con-structs) do not exist and neither do dimensions, planes, levels etc etc etc etc.

All that exists is CONSCIOUSNESS which is the living substance of the conscious-living GOD providing this information for MAN to create with. When we create substance with this information, we are the full embodiment of the living God.

We have all been lied to about who we are, what we are part of, what life is all about, what the universe is, that we are separated from each other and creation and are on a journey etc etc etc etc .

*[Acts without love (not creating substance to benefit MAN/Creation) are the result of negative, destructive emotions which destroy, MAN, Nature & Earth. They include and cause: arrogance, ignorance, fear, righteousness, power trips, control trips, greed, selfishness, lies, secrets, denial, deception, manipulation, non-disclosure, corruption, collusion, delusion, illusion, fantasy, fiction, anger, hatred, rage, ridicule, abuse, oppression, persecution, character assassination, jealousy, envy, covetousness, loneliness, emptiness, sadness, unhappiness, joylessness, directionless, depression, suicidal, sense of obligation.

These emotions fill the empty space where love once was.

These emotions reveal the damage done through separation from creation.

Those who experience these emotions are destroyed and destroying.]

KINDOM

The true path of freedom is co-creating Kindom. We recommend reading all the brilliant Russian books called The Ringing Cedars, see: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1125, and studying the material we have been posting (links to some are provided below) as well as exploring much of the information under the heading Recommended Reading Or Viewing at: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 We have included more health information about conscious-living here: Welcome To KINDOM - A Do No Harm Community Of Conscious Creators - Truly Free - No Beliefs - No Ownership - No Ones Sheep Nor Shepherd: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5204 and the same information can now be found in this article: WHAT'S YOUR INTENT - Escapees From The Western World "Civilisation": http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5542 including some of David Dee's brilliant illustrations.

This article "THE DECEPTION OF CAESAR" is posted here: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5581 where all future updates, comments and David Dee's illustrations http://rense.com/1.mpicons/dees1.htm will be posted.

CHALLENGE

Cut and pasted from this post: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5542#comment-689 - 21st September 2008

"We have also sent this email to the freedom-truth network, to men and women like Gee Temp, Wolter Joost, John Wilson, Peter Paalvast, Claude Memma, Sue Maynes, Brian McDougall, Mike Maxwell, Minister Belanger, Ant, Bob Taft, Richard Niemella, Mark McMurtrie, Raymond Karczewski, etc, and posted it to the love for life website here: challenging everyone to refute what is stated. If they can't then their beliefs in Jesus, "The Christ", The Bible, Israel, The Prime Creator, Democracy, Government The Rule Of Law, Common Law, Trial By Jury, Honour-Dishonour, Admiralty Law, Money, Banking etc are of a much lower standing than the heartfelt information being presented in this and every other document posted to the love for life website as listed (the links - see: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5542#comment-689).

The living God is our witness and is your witness. Your silence condemns you as do character assassinations, ridicule, abuse, back-stabbing and any other negative-destructive emotion conjured up to avoid facing and answering the challenge.

This challenge is not about making anyone right or wrong but about honouring the truth for it is where the truth is that the remedy will be found.

Are we not all seeking remedy?

If you are not seeking remedy then just what are you doing?

We do not claim this information as our own neither do we want to be anyones sheep nor shepherd.

Wherever the truth is is where we want to be."

To this day no one has yet been able to refute the heart-felt information we have been posting to the Love For Life website under the names Arthur Cristian or Fiona Cristian or together.

FIONA AND ARTHUR CRISTIAN, THE LOVE FOR LIFE WEBSITE AND MAILING LIST

If you are interested in our work including the creation of a Do No Harm Kindom (Community) in the Southern Highlands outside Sydney Australia, living/raw food diet, permaculture/no dig gardening, building eco-sustainable homes, etc, please visit the Love For Life Website: http://www.loveforlife.com.au or contact us. The links we provided in the article above WHAT'S YOUR INTENT? go into greater detail the subjects we have covered in this posting. Please do find the time to relax in a quiet space and feel the conscious-living information expanding consciousness.

There is also a Love For Life mailing list you can register, to keep you up to date with our latest news and postings, see: http://lists.loveforlife.com.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/campaign The mailing list now has almost 4000 registrations reaching over 150 thousand readers globally (some are mailing lists and forums). An average of two postings per month to the mailing list occurs.

As we have chosen not to work in the fiction for the past two years (after being victims of bank fraud conducted by the establishments internationalised crime syndicate/terrorist organisation stealing the family home, business and cash-flow leaving us almost penniless and destitute caring for 4 young daughters) in order to have the time needed to work everything out, we have been very hard up financially. Its been incredibly challenging to care for 4 kids and ourselves.

The establishment's system is not about supporting freedom or those who seek it, particularly those determined to show the way to freedom for all. We are determined to stay on this path and we welcome support of any kind, whether it be financial, material, help to publish the booklet, land to set up the first Do No Harm community in Australia, or whatever help anyone has to offer. The establishment is determined to see us wilt away, too weak to continue on this path of getting rid of them. This doesn't live for us.

For 12 months we never bothered to check Love For Life website traffic statistics until late July 2008. We were in for a shock. We thought the website was receiving an average of 10,000 strikes per month. How wrong we were. Traffic to the Love for Life website is growing at a huge rate; in June 2008, it received 971,201 hits, July almost 1.1 million hits! We were amazed when we discovered this and thrilled that our information is reaching many more than we thought.

Originally from 10,000 to almost 1.3 million hits a month
Daily average of about 37,000 hits
About 7000 pages are looked at daily
Almost 38,000 files are being opened daily
8.2 million hits since October 2007
See full details for July 2008 here: http://loveforlife.com.au/files/22nd%20July%202008%20Latest%20Website%20...

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Comments

If Good Old USA Gets The Sniffles Then DOWN UNDER Gets The FLU

Dear All,
The below applies to the puppets in Australia just as much as it applies to USA.

Remember, it is much parroted that if good ol USA gets the sniffles then DOWN UNDER gets the FLU.
Regards
Col

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Politicians
By Charlie Reese

Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

Have you ever wondered why, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, we have deficits?

Have you ever wondered why, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, we have inflation and high taxes?

You and I don't propose a federal budget. The President does.

You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.

You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.

You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

One hundred senators, 435 Congressmen, one President, and nine Supreme Court justices! 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a Senator, a Congressman, or a President to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.

Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits. The President can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? She or He is the leader of the majority party. The speaker and fellow House members, not the President, can approve any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.

If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red.

If the Marines are in IRAQ, it's because they want them in IRAQ.

If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way. There are no insoluble government problems.

Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like 'the economy,' 'inflation,' or 'politics' that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

Those 545 people, and no one else; and they alone, are responsible.

They, and they alone, have the power.

They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees.

We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!

Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper.

PS – While I find the above presentation interesting and noteworthy, I wish to add the following concept;

While Congress has the legislative power to remedy all situations, they cannot always be trusted.

When Congress cannot be trusted, we have instituted the judiciary to hold Congress in check.

However, when the Judiciary fails to hold Congress in check, we must have a forum over the Judiciary. This is where the doctrine of J.A.I.L. must uniquely fill its ultimate authority as the final word. Without J.A.I.L. the Judiciary will fail. Without a Judiciary the government will fail. So the logic is quite clear, We the People must have J.A.I.L. or all else fails! - -Ron Branson - VictoryUSA @ jail4judges.org

The Economic Nightmare That Awaits All Of Us - Reply To Col

Col,
This story below, to the best of my recollection, was explained to me by an old friend some years ago who was an international finance broker/merchant banker working out of the City Of London for many years. This is what I can remember of his story. It felt right back then and still feels right today. Apologies for my personal flavouring and lack of editing to describe some of his descriptions/outcomes. My personal interjections are in [ ]........

From the mid/late 1990's The Aust Fed Government politicians in collusion with the internationalised banksters and those of true-freemasonry arranged to borrow U.S. Fed fiat-notes at around 1.5% converted them to Aussie rates at around 3.5% and then on-sold this fiat to the finance markets at a rate of between 4.5% to 6.5% who then on-sold the fiat to the Aussie public from around 6% to 12%.

This fiat-nothing-money was also used by the Fed Govt. for its 1st home buyers incentive scheme of $14,000 (later $7,000) and covered the rebates to State Govt's for the reduction (shortfall) in Stamp Duty.

[These offers to struggling 1st home buyers ignited a scrub-fire that became an enormous out-of-control national bush-fire with roaring winds sweeping all over Gondwanaland as other monopolists joined in as willing devouring partners of a united capitalistic frenzy, eating the carcass like piranhas, not realising that the carcass was actually every man, woman and child who walks this land, including nature & earth.]

This fiat-nothing-money pretty much backed all the flood of fast easy-money credit/loan offers coming in the mail to most Australian's from banks like Citibank. Offers between $5k to $20k limits were available very quickly to many Australians and all they had to do was answer a few questions and sign a piece of paper and that's all. [This is true because I was a willing contributor to this fast easy money access over & over again between 1998 and 2002. Almost every week two or three offers came in the mail to my business for many years].

Over a period of a few years, somewhere around $600 billion U.S. fiat-nothing-money was injected into the Aust money supply which caused rapid escalation in real estate values both residential & commercial and was behind the surge of tens of thousands of new small-businesses that came on line and the multiculturalism immigrations. The massive inflation in real estate values was due to this fiat-nothing-money. Over this 10 year period it was not uncommon to see R/E values increase by more than 40%, often 50%, and even 100%+ was not uncommon either.

And so a huge "intentional" economic bubble was formed, backed by nothing (no solid foundation - bar our collective fruits of labour and the substance of land and what is within, upon and surrounds the land including all water/seas/oceans/lakes etc), and when this planned inflationary bubble bursts, due to the U.S Fed $ completely collapsing in the near future,.will cause much of Australia's land, R/E, mines/resources etc to be offered up to the U.S. Fed (European creditors/receivers) as loan repayments/security/surety etc.

This U.S. Fed Fiat-Nothing-Money was provided with the incentive that no money had to be paid back in installments by the Aust Fed Government/Crime Syndicate for around 10 years. [This 10 years lapse is somewhere between 2007 and 2009].

Due to this fiat-nothing-money corruption/collusion the Australian $ is now heavily pinned/backed by the U.S. $ and if the U.S. $ collapses as planed from long ago, the shock-waves will arrive here in Aussie very very quickly causing massive foreclosures, forced sales and will cause hundreds of thousands of mortgages, overdrafts, lines of credit, credit cards etc to be quickly called in. A domino effect will kick in that will effect every Aussie trapped/lost/brainwashed/hood-winked/deceived/manipulated into the fiction.

Don't be surprised that a depression will come about very quickly causing the politicians to instigate a military curfew/police state to maintain peace, law and order amongst the millions of Aussies panicking. They will panic because the banks will close their doors for up to 2 weeks, no one will access money, values will quickly crash everywhere by more than 50% (no buyers in the market with all sellers desperate to sell to cover their debts/financial obligations/wolves at their doors etc), and access to food, water and other essential services will become very hard to come by.

The inflationary events of pre-Germany 1933 and the 1920's depression in the U.S.A will come back to haunt all Australians who had not learnt the painful lessons of the Americans, Germans and the Australians who also suffered during and after the 1920's depression and the financial disasters of the late 1980's.

[More than $1 Trillion converted U.S./ Fiat-Nothing-Money is still circulating as debt in the Australian money supply today, much of it hidden/built into the fictional inflationary values of land, resources, etc, caused when R/E/land and shares on the stock market etc were being turned over regularly (houses/land being bought and sold once or twice within 2 years) by the capitalistic opportunists for big profits. Do not be surprised that this debt (when you add on all the outstanding accumulating/compounding collective interest) could get as close as $2 Trillion today. And also don't forget that internationalised private corporations already own almost everything on and around this land, and most profits go off-shore, so what is on the table with this final crunch are not the scraps but you, me and everyone we love and care for and the other 20 million breathing upon this land.]

My friend said that this engineered event is part of the strategic initiatives of the international crime syndicate that will cause the Australian population to quickly bend to their knees and force them to accept the microchip as a remedy.

[A remedy where much, if not all this debt, will be wavered/written off to a one world bank/one world government/one world currency/one world rule-of-law/one world this and that remedy, if everyone accepts the chip. - The global crime syndicate bad guys are going to come up smelling like roses looking good as the good guys but ahhhhhhh - the con-sequence (the sequence of this CON) of their global economic remedy "on offer" is massive indeed.

[Obviously there will be a carte-blanch of other reasons/excuses used as well (Hegelian Dialectics) by the Politicians/economic/financial experts to bring in the microchip like $100's of millions of $$$ owed to the State Govt's as outstanding revenue caused by very naughty/irresponsible/uncaring Aussies not paying their outstanding fines and other charges to the States.

Every bond issued or under administration by the corporation that is The Commonwealth Of Australia (around 20 million strawman bonds) was used as part of the stock holdings/equity which covered the $600 billion+ borrowings from the private corporations that are the United States & the United States Federal Reserve. The primary stock holders/controlling interest in these two corporations is "The Crown" based in the tiny 1km square City Of London.]

[The point raised in this discussion is that most Australians are oblivious of how closely tied/pegged the Aussie $ has become to the U.S. Fed $ since 1997. The consequences/ramifications of the U.S. $ collapsing for all Australian's lost to the fiction is HUGE and they will not be prepared (informed/educated) to rescue themselves out of the very fast all-consuming quicksand they will all find themselves suddenly within until its just too late. As far as I can see this information is almost completely ignored by all politicians, financial experts and the media to this day.

Its obvious Why!!!!!!! And its obvious what the word sheeple really means!!!

There are a thousand and one other economic red herrings "on offer" to the Aussie Sheeple so they never get close to fully realising the terrible sequence of events/con-sequences that will quickly unfold. I guess most Australian freedom-truth fighters are unaware of this circumstance as well. While anyone is still completely dependent on the daily sucking on the nipples of the private corporations for their supply of food, water, energy, transport, etc etc, they will be trapped in the D-Day quicksand, and for most, they will have very little choice but to accept the microchip if they want to continue sucking on these fictional nipples for their loved ones survival and for their own survival.

Have you ever really stopped to think things through until there final conclusion as to what effect this D-Day will have upon you and your family particularly if you are all still sucking on the nipples of the private corporations and you have no long-term alternatives in place????? Have you ever considered that all the freedom-truth work many of us are doing could just be a huge distraction, full of 1001 intentional red-herrings, so that we never get to co-create the one and only remedy that pulls us all out of this nightmare?????

And don't forget the establishment have planed a very well organised genocide/eugenics program that will cull millions of us during these next seven years or so if we allow D-Day to come about and allow the program to blossom until we all encounter its worst case scenario, without any community immunity in place to stop it. The worst case scenarios will unfold while many of us are focusing on surviving the D-Day nightmare program which only feeds the programed nightmare. The programed nightmare is what we are all focusing on and projecting (creating) for ourselves while love (the heartfelt program that is the creation of substance) has been completely ignored and forgotten about.

Its obvious that D-Day has turned the final bend and is now sprinting to the finish line. In reference to the fiction we all have very little time left.

Fiction is a program of destruction that runs all programs of destruction. We are presently surrounded by millions who are programmed to carry out the instructions of the destructive programs they were all brainwashed into believing in. We need to co-create a program of love (walk-the-talk) that will inspire the brainwashed sheeple robots into rebelling against the instructions of their destructive programming and join with us in co-creating a program of love where we all benefit by serving each other.

As part of a team effort with those fully awakened to what is really going on, back in January 2008: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/3386 Fiona and I were warning everyone we could reach that it was time to get out, sell everything and use the fictional fiat $$$$ to step out of the fiction to co-create Kindoms with each other.

The Remedy out of all this madness (the new program of love "on offer") is co-creating Kindoms with each other. Fiona and I have written much about the remedy and the fiction, see many of our articles listed below........

I have put them into a sequential order so that anyone who takes the time can fully comprehend the heartfelt insights of this Love For Life Program (dream). There is intentional repetition in this work to assist the true awakening to consciousness of this Love For Life Program. These docs are each receiving tens of thousands of unique strikes per week in the Love For Life website.

Summary Of The New Booklet Life is for the Living – The True Steps of Freedom By Arthur and Fiona Cristian 19th May 2008: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/4651

What Are We Waiting For? By Fiona And Arthur Cristian 25th July 2008: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5147

THE WAY by Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 9th August 2008: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5231

Recognising The Distinction Between Information That Is CREATION & Knowledge That Is FICTION Is Critical To Reclaiming Freedom by Arthur Cristian 13th July 2008: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5079

WHAT'S YOUR INTENT? - Escapees From The Western World "Civilisation" by Arthur & Fiona Cristian 18th September 2008: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5542

THE DECEPTION OF CAESAR by Arthur & Fiona Cristian 28th September 2008: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5581

The Way Out by Fiona Cristian 30th July 2008 - Taken From Fiona Cristian Email Replies: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5203

Prelude To Our Next Article "The Substance Of Creation & Conscious-Living DNA" By Arthur & Fiona Cristian - To Be Posted Shortly 12th September 2008: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5505
Then you can pick and choose others from here if you want to: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 and: http://loveforlife.com.au/arthur_cristian

All the best to you, your extended family and other loved ones Col.

Conscious Love Always
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
action @ loveforlife.com.au
www.loveforlife.com.au

The Economic Nightmare That Awaits All Of Us - Reply To Arthur

6th October 2008

G'day Arthur,
Thanks for that (below) insight.

However, you might have to grab your old friend and wring a bit more detail out of him i.e. where is the paper trail that evidences the importation of Yankee dollars during the periods you suggest.
I think you and he might have a wee bit of trouble doing so, because, save for a moderate trickle evidenced by "verifiable paper trail" there wasn't any massive injection of Yankee money or even credit!!

This fact puts a big spanner in his works/claims and your constructions flowing from it.

Any such injection would have stuck out like dogs balls. didn't happen me old china!!

I too received (and still do) the easy credit invites (mainly citibanksters) that you speak of.

If you check you'll notice most of those credit offers were to 'business/professional' people, the offers to the general population sheeples was fairly limited.

In closing I query, with respect to the kindoms...are the kindom inhabitants going to grow enough food to feed the hungry hordes that will surely engulf them?

Regards
Col

Re: The Economic nightmare that awaits all of us From Peter R

7th October 2008

Col,

From my perspective I feel that until i have a deep deep sense of respect for myself, no matter what has happened in the past, it will be hard for me to comprehend that when we learn to live in 'love', we will not have 'hungry hoardes", watch "The Cuban Experience", We will have people like you and I col, who will respect our brothers and sisters everywhere, always, and forever, and there will be no 'hungry hoardes', there will be hungry, respectful people, living in a vibration of 'Do No Harm - Kindom'.

I dont think we all have to move to ONE place. We link up from where we live and all use our own local land to grow food. We just simply 'take over' all spare land which belongs to the people, ie all Local, State and Fed Govt land which is not being used at present, and begin to grow vegetables and herbs and produce eggs, etc etc. Could ANYTHING be more important than for 'the people' to be able to grow healthy fresh food and share our excesses for barters only, no money.

It is now time to come out and claim land as arthur & fiona have been discussing with us.

I really have a deep respect for the work arthur and fiona are doing, and my wife Alison and I went down and stayed with them and their lovely family. Some of their visions are definitely on the edge of my comprehension level and still i feel deeeply connected to their vibration.

We all need to comprehend that we are loving, conscious, creation beings and work TOGETHER, and build on each others 'shoulders'.

Pete R

The Economic Nightmare That Awaits All Of Us - Reply To Col

7th October 2008

Hi Col
It was the part-time Russian Dachniks (gardeners) working in their Dacha's (weekender's) that generally fed the Russian population during the transition from the Cold War via Perestroika & Glasnost to their present Democracy. (Gorbachev's reign started 1985 - Glasnost & Perestroika were gradually introduced around 1986 and concluded around the time of Solidarity 1990 - Then Communism started to completely crumble and the transition to a capitalist democracy started around 1992 but took until roughly 1998 to overcome the many issues Russians encountered and endured like having to put in place a reliable all-year-round food supply for everyone)

Without the Dachniks many millions of Russians would have not survived those awful years. The population of Russia during those years was around 148 million (and was still intact almost 10 years later), but then you add many of the other ex Soviet Bloc nations and what these Dachinks achieved is just incredible, you could say almost beyond comprehension. This may be one of the greatest, if not the greatest miracles of all time based on modern history. The fact is the Dachniks had no idea collectively that they had rescued tens of millions of Russians. Each Dachnick just took care of what they could produce and give/barter/sell/trade to their community, to their region and unbeknown to each other, collectively, they were instrumental in pulling Russia across this most dangerous abyss/nightmare.

In working with Anastasia's (Ringing Cedars Series) ideas, a Dacha becomes a Kin Domain which is a Space Of Love consisting of 1 hectare (2.5 acres) of land. Roughly 1/4 of a Kin Domain produces food all year round while another 1/4 is the home and the other 1/2 is forest/bush/rain-forest/wilderness etc. It can also be 1/3 1/3 1/3. However there are traditional food forests to be found around the globe that can embrace anywhere from 1 to 3 acres. A family growing food in a Kin Domain will supply food all year round for the family + so much more.

Col, it appears you spend too much time in the fiction and not enough time in the real world of creation as creator, otherwise you would not be asking me such questions. Take a look at this 6 Minute Video: Get Fresh With Sara Snow - How A Family Grows Over 6000 Pounds Of Organic Food Per Year From Their Suburban Backyard: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5496 - This is more than 3 tons of food per year.

Also check these videos: 300 Year Old Food Forest in Vietnam, A Families 28 Generation Old Food Forest That Provides Everything They Need All-Year-Round: 6 Minutes http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5327 and these Videos: Greening The Desert + Other Videos - We Can Grow Gardens Everywhere And They Will Solve All Our Problems: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5350 and you will find many others located here: The Ringing Cedars - Kindoms - Do No Harm Communities - Eco-Villages - Building Sustainable Eco Friendly Homes - Magazines: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3641

All the time you spend on issues with banks, fiat, government, rule of law etc etc is all the time you (and possibly your extended family) are wasting as creators. Without creation as in fresh-conscious-living food what do you/we have? NO REMEDIES. Absolutely nothing! What do you think happens if you, your extended families and a few hundred other families came together to form a Kindom (Do No Harm Community) and all were creators? Can you comprehend the amount of living-food (substance) that will be produced? But the benefits don't just end there, real conscious-living communities (substance) start to flourish and the more (substance) that arise the quicker we all get to step out of the fiction (no substance) as in rule of law, government, private corporations, constitutions, democracy etc etc.

What does a judge or bank or fiat or reserve bank or politician or priest or religion do for creation as in creators of substance? Do these fictions create substance that benefits the creation of the conscious-living flesh and blood MAN that you really are here and now?

Life is where substance exists - Death/Destruction is where there is no substance here and now.

All the time we spend on Fiction is the death/destruction of us Col.

The time we spend focusing on and fighting the banks (no creation of substance) or fiat (no creation of substance) or constitution (no creation of substance) or the government (no creation of substance) or the law (no creation of substance) or arguing over who is right or wrong (no creation of substance) about religion (no creation of substance) or economics (no creation of substance) or Jesus (no creation of substance) or life (no creation of substance) etc etc is no different to walking into a highly dangerous radioactive area to destroy ourselves.

You need to put the time/work in and learn what there is to know about creation (creating substance) and a good place to start is the last link provided above, reading (feeling) our postings and reading all the brilliant Ringing Cedars Books, preferably 3 times around.

As for the news my old friend shared with me ---- if there were no secrets and all was consciously known to all of MAN that ever was you would not be enduring the circumstances (looking here, there and everywhere for the needle in the haystack) that has been unfolding for you thus far Col! You obviously have been on a wild goose chase looking for its Golden Egg, unfortunately all red herrings lead nowhere to the truth but to more bullshit. Be sure to look under your shoes in case you have been treading on the "official" trademark of all true-freemasonry bullshit artists. Do you think they would leave a paper trail for you? They are not that stupid! Man landed on the moon, Arabs brought down WTC 1 & 2, Fluoride is safe, the earth is flat and true-freemasons leave paper trails.

The matrix exists because there is no true (of substance) paper trail. Whatever exists as a paper trail is intentionally placed there for those who like to step on bullshit while wondering down one of the many true-freemasonry paved yellow brick roads of our societies present western world fiction-fantasyland (civilisation). Ohhhhhhhhh, geeeeeees, look what I have found here, a paper trail, ummmmmmm, I better get my magnifying glass out and be a good Sherlock and follow it like all sheeple do. Who knows what I will find!!!!! and you can be sure that whatever you find will have no substance.

While in the midst of such a discovery, I recommend that you stop for a moment and take a very good look around you to see if any substance is being created by everything that has participated and is participating in your discovery. If you are true to yourself you will find that you are totally absorbed in fiction and all the props of this adventure are fictions (all imagined out-of-thin-air) without substance as well.

A good word for a place one finds themselves surrounded by no substance is HELL. And yes, HELL is the bullshit trademark of true-freemasonry. Don't forget, they invented (imagined) out-of-thin-air paper (no substance) and numbers (no substance) and alphabet letters (no substance) and ink (no substance) and history (no substance) and fiat (no substance) and banking (no substance) and economics (no substance) and commerce (no substance) and money (no substance) and government (no substance) and courts (no substance) and judges (no substance) and politicians (no substance) and everything else from the minutest form of a construct (no substance) to the maximum form of a construct (no substance), which all-together required the destruction to creation (substance), to manufacture the imagined out-of-thin-air dead world images, of no substance, providing the illusion of this evil, CON-STRUCTED, Western-World-Civilisation.

There is no paper trail because you reach the point of comprehension where everything is imagined out-of-thin air and it is here in such an invisible world where all true freemasonry secrets reside. Have you not yet worked this one out Col? The paper trail you are looking for are in fact the golden goose hand-shakes between the initiated members of true freemasonry who know what it means to keep a secret (the golden egg). Almost all knowledge that ever existed is knowledge divulged because divulged knowledge suits the red herring agendas of the establishment of true freemasonry. All divulged knowledge forms the many corridors and intricately complexed pathways of the maze, within the maze, within the maze, within the maze, within the maze, within the maze of HELL. And who resides in HELL?

The path out of this matrix is paved in living substance. Without the substance we can't create and without our ability to create, its all over folks!

Conscious Love Always
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

An Illusion: banks had outsourced their exposures by on-selling

7th October 2008

From Mike Maxwell

An Illusion: banks had outsourced their exposures by "on-selling the mortgage debts" to these overseas mortgage funds that the risks had therefore evaporated as the banks had no financial exposure.

Who holds the mortgage when its been on sold ?

If you on sell something without express permission of both parties have you stolen it or committed FRAUD ?

If your debt is sold to a 3rd party who knows he did not have right to buy it …has he just paid out your debt and now left holding the can ?

If your debt has been sold overseas what Jurisdiction could possibly enforce its collection ?

"An illusion

It is clear however that the present mess has been predicated on one large falsehood. That is, that the broader you spread the risk and the more people you have participating in the risk, the lower the risk. This was the rationale for CDOs, ABS, CLOs and CDS too. Look how much these derivative cocktails are fetching now on the open market.

The Economist magazine pointed to this madness in 2005, writing that mums' and dads' in mortgage funds in Canada and the US were being exposed to international mortgage holders around the world.

Mums and dads in other countries were simply assuming the risk for others' mortgage debts. How would these be unwound?

Basically the pension fund in one country supported the inflation of house pricing in other markets - a merry-go-round which was also gleefully ridden by super funds in Australia.

The risk had been pushed out of the banks - with the blessing of the world's governments and regulatory bodies - and dumped on the general public, those with the least knowledge and the most to lose.

The belief was that because the risks had been spread so broadly and the banks had outsourced their exposures by on-selling the mortgage debts to these overseas mortgage funds that the risks had therefore evaporated as the banks had no financial exposure. This was at least the theory. The last 12 months has proved this theory horribly wrong. There is no chance Australia will be immune.

The sub prime crisis was triggered by a mortgage failure rate of 0.8 of 1% with general mortgages in America failing at .4 of 1%.

The real crisis came when the banks began calling around testing customers' capacity to pay if their interest rates were to rise another 2%. Based on the customers' response they then began foreclosing before clients fell into default.

Australians with a mortgage should check their mortgage documents for what is known as the ''general exit clause''. This basically states that at any time and without default or fault, the bank can ask for the mortgage to be paid out in full.

In every mortgage or loan document there will be a clause requiring repayment within 30/60 days.

If the banks can't get their funding in global markets then the RBA will have to step in (as they are already doing to prop up the system). How long can they keep this up given that we have another four years or more of mortgage money being called in as it falls due and our currency being manipulated by major external interests?"

Full Article Below;

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In hock to the world

• Michael West

• October 7, 2008 - 9:21AM

• SMH

''Bush, speaking outside San Antonio's venerable Olmos pharmacy and lunch counter, acknowledged the perception among many Americans that their tax dollars are (sic) being hijacked to bail out profligate Wall Street money barons''. AFP, October 6.

''It's going to take a while to restore confidence in the financial system,''

he said, preceding another nasty sell-off in the afternoon.

If you didn't laugh, you would fair dinkum cry.

The Dow dropped as much as 800 points (almost 8%) in mid-afternoon before recovering part of that dive by the close.

Again however, it was the big figures in the banking system, rather than the stock market, which were of greater concern. The banks are still refusing to lend to each other. It is stasis.

Amid the parallel chaos in European markets overnight, three-month $US-Libor rates were at a record 292 basis points, Euro-Libor at a record 148 basis points and the purest indicator of confidence in the financial system, the TED spread (measuring the gap between three-month Libor and US Treasury bills), blew out to a record 385 basis points.

As Australian banks source half their funding from these wholesale money-markets overseas, even our own banking sector is now against the wall. Suncorp's move to put itself up for sale, as augured here, is evidence of the critical funding crunch.

Treasurer Wayne Swan finally confessed last week what we should have been told long ago. The Australian Government, through its policies of the last two decades, has lost control of our financial sector...and interest rates.

Westpac, ANZ, Commonwealth Bank and National Australia all hosed down any notion yesterday they might pass on the full 50-point cut coming in the cash rate from the Reserve Bank today.

Keating's gift

The antecedents to this predicament lie in the deregulation of the banking sector - executed under Paul Keating's watch and at the insistent recommendation of the IMF - and now have consequences for all Australians.

The explosion in credit and the surge in property prices enriched many Australians. Generation Y, however, is lumped with large debts, no assets and the spectre of a long life in the workforce funding, perversely, the pensions and health benefits of the wealthier senior generation via taxes.

Deregulation has had its well-chronicled rewards. Now the flip-side is looming into view.

The influx of foreign money into the banking system saw bank margins slashed from 3% to 1.5%. We are talking about retail margins here, or what banks make per dollar lent over the costs of that dollar lent.

By lowering margins, banks had to lend twice as much to make the same money; more if they wanted to grow market share. The mortgage brokers cut another half a percentage point off to grab their market share.

Economics 101 says that when the price falls the demand rises, and the RBA, the Government and IMF knew this before deregulation as they had watched exactly this unfold in Japan in the late 1980's and early 1990's.

Howard & Costello's contribution

When Peter Costello allowed the broadening of securitisation late in 2006 - in which the Government allowed banks and brokers to include friends and family in mortgage documents as guarantors - this further enlarged the capacity for debt in the economy.

It was aimed at encouraging the languishing supply side which had seen banks' home lending growth rates drop in 2005 from 15% to today's 7%-8% growth.

The true cost of funding swings on not just the RBA but interbank lending rates in the trans-Atlantic markets.

Allowing greater competition was the cover story of deregulation.

The real story was that huge flows of external money flooded Australia, artificially driving growth in our economy. This, at a time when the state and Federal governments were telling us it was totally unacceptable for them to be carrying any debt.

It took John Howard's Government ten years just to pay off $30 billion and shift another $30 billion off the books leaving us still with just under $30 billion.

What Howard did was to pay out $30 billion, shift $30 billion off government books into NGOs and sell assets such as Telstra. With Telstra's debts no longer on the books, that was a further $10 billion gone in one transaction. Its debt in 2008 is around $15 billion.

The claim that we are debt free comes from the fact that we are owed as much as we owe. If you have a million in the bank and owe a million are you debt free? Or is that debt neutral? And if you could see who we have lent money to, the Solomon Islands, East Timor and so forth, you would have to class the debts as unlikely to be recovered.

Exported controls

How have the government and the RBA lost control? Why can't banks just pass on the rate cuts?

Put simply, the money is not Australian money but foreign money which is free to move in and out of the country at will.

All of the major banks have tied themselves to five-year debt instruments which constantly come up for refinancing. Basically you take all mortgage debt that needs refinancing and bundle it into an instrument which then gets placed for five years.

This market is running so dry of finance, the RBA has been injecting funds to keep it going (some $50 billion to date and counting).

We don't know, however, if the money is being used to pay shortfalls in foreign funds or if it is lost money being redeemed by local super operators who are trying to cash up as quickly as possible - another reason shares are being savaged.

Meanwhile, non-bank mortgage lenders proliferated in the good times, bundling their products on 12-monthly instruments which is why they have been falling faster than the big four. This short-term market has vanished as lending institutions desperate to recover liquidity internationally have been pulling the funds back in.

Sting in dollar's dive

Now for the critical element. Rates are indeed headed lower in the short term but will they soon rise again?

As the influx of new money was foreign it was subject not only to interest rates but also the vagaries of currency movements.

The RBA has yet to declare how much money has been financed at 78 US cents to the dollar (50% of all foreign money written in five-year instruments sits above 78 US cents per dollar).

Currency losses therefore come into play big time, which is why interest rates have to stay high in Australia to compensate these funds for their losses. This one is a real can of worms.

Who is now carrying the risks? When they have been onsold a dozen times over there is a ripple effect which will emanate for at least another two or three years before these trades can be settled or unwound (thanks to the five-year duration held against most mortgages).

As repayment is due in US dollars, somebody in the financial transactions system has just had to wear a 15% decline in the real value of the Australian dollar against the US currency. Who is it? We won't see the answer to that one in the RBA monthly report.

More than half of our overseas debt, which nearly reaches $1.5 trillion when both private and business debts are combined, has been written at 78 US cents. How much of our debt has been financed out of our dwindling superannuation?

Dollar takes a beating

As the world hurtles towards recession and commodity prices beat a sharp retreat, the $A is taking a beating. Any institution then that has hedged will be taking an equivalent beating on interest repayments.

Are our banks carrying this risk themselves? If so, this would put further pressure on rates. As margins are wafer-thin, any currency movements results in loses somewhere in the chain. And the $A is volatile. The risk may have been passed in part to associates or other market players but to maintain protection from these movements you need more margin. This is why rates may have to rise - to cover possible losses. Of course it depends on who is carrying the risk.

If Kevin Rudd and his treasurer come out in support of the local banks keeping their rates higher, can this only mean that the banks are indeed the ones carrying the risk? And at who's expense? The mortgage holder who has to pay more than they should.

This disconnection between RBA rates and real interest rates is deadly serious as, when the economy turns down, there would be no way to allow further cash back into consumers' pockets to keep the economic machine ticking along. This in turn means we have lost control of our economy and are now in somebody else's hands.

Whose hands? Do we not deserve to know who might be accepting these risks on our behalf? Can they wear them?

Safe haven?

The big four banks have been chasing their grand profits in the full knowledge that they were economically unsustainable.

And what is the definition of debt according to Federal Treasury and the RBA? They define it as ''future economic value being realised today''. If so, then we have effectively passed to the next generation an onerous level of obligations that is due to government mismanagement.

The Australian Bureau of Statistics tells us that one-third of our population is renting (most in negatively-geared housing dependant on foreign, borrowed money). Another third has borrowed money to buy (again, mortgages bundled on the international stage).

Did the Product Disclosure Statement (PDS) explain to the borrower that most mortgages and business debts are for a period of between 15 -30 years but the banks only finance these mortgages with short term instruments that are five years at most and only about $250 billion of the $1.5 trillion is on fixed interest? The others (depending on the mortgage date) are being refinanced every five years. This means some $200 million a month has to be found to keep these loans going.

And even as these funds are drying up Australia is still viewed as an international safe haven. In the next five years this country will be increasingly exposed to the global financial crisis. Hence politicians such as Kevin Rudd have been finally starting to admit that we are not immune.

Meanwhile reverse equity deals are booming (close to 40,000 now). How many of these properties have been used as security for the other third?

Again, Generation Y is the ultimate victim as, in the under 35s category, some 45% are renting, 45% have mortgages and only 6% own their properties outright.

The Government would surely be uncomfortable if it had to answer the question of why this generation had been saddled with so much debt and so much risk.

No wonder stories now abound in the media of a disillusioned generation burying themselves in alcohol and drugs. This could be a beat-up of course. Perhaps the older generations simply forgot how much they consumed.

An illusion

It is clear however that the present mess has been predicated on one large falsehood. That is, that the broader you spread the risk and the more people you have participating in the risk, the lower the risk. This was the rationale for CDOs, ABS, CLOs and CDS too. Look how much these derivative cocktails are fetching now on the open market.

The Economist magazine pointed to this madness in 2005, writing that mums' and dads' in mortgage funds in Canada and the US were being exposed to international mortgage holders around the world.

Mums and dads in other countries were simply assuming the risk for others' mortgage debts. How would these be unwound?

Basically the pension fund in one country supported the inflation of house pricing in other markets - a merry-go-round which was also gleefully ridden by super funds in Australia.

The risk had been pushed out of the banks - with the blessing of the world's governments and regulatory bodies - and dumped on the general public, those with the least knowledge and the most to lose.

The belief was that because the risks had been spread so broadly and the banks had outsourced their exposures by on-selling the mortgage debts to these overseas mortgage funds that the risks had therefore evaporated as the banks had no financial exposure. This was at least the theory. The last 12 months has proved this theory horribly wrong. There is no chance Australia will be immune.

The sub prime crisis was triggered by a mortgage failure rate of 0.8 of 1% with general mortgages in America failing at .4 of 1%.

The real crisis came when the banks began calling around testing customers' capacity to pay if their interest rates were to rise another 2%. Based on the customers' response they then began foreclosing before clients fell into default.

Australians with a mortgage should check their mortgage documents for what is known as the ''general exit clause''. This basically states that at any time and without default or fault, the bank can ask for the mortgage to be paid out in full.

In every mortgage or loan document there will be a clause requiring repayment within 30/60 days.

If the banks can't get their funding in global markets then the RBA will have to step in (as they are already doing to prop up the system). How long can they keep this up given that we have another four years or more of mortgage money being called in as it falls due and our currency being manipulated by major external interests?

How quickly things change. It seems only yesterday that Peter Costello made the claim that Australians have never been better off.

If however the price of housing in Australia were to fall in line with prices in the UK and US markets, some 20% to 30% would immediately be lopped off the price of the average house. And yet we are more heavily geared - we have the second highest mortgage gearing ratio in world at 7.1 times average national earnings (USA 3.2 and UK 3.5).

Had they not changed the CPI from a price index to a national affordability index this gearings ratio might sit at 10x earnings.

To claim this country is quarantined from the woes of other nations is to claim an illusion.

mwest @ fairfax.com.au

Link to this article: http://business.smh.com.au/business/in-hock-to-the-world-20081007-4v8c.h...

Re: The Economic nightmare that awaits all of us - From Don Pike

Dear Arthur,

A very interesting article re your experience with the Banksters. And similar stuff evidenced by others for some time now. (eg. Intelligence Executive Review [EIR] - Larouche). Particularly the orchestrated part of the real estate bubble. One can see how it can/will bring down millions in a screaming heap.

However, Arthur, as much as I agree with your suggestions re communal escape, how in the buggery would anyone educate millions financially trapped in city living, into heading for growing land and start afresh. Particularly if they don't like gardening. Not frivolous. ie many wouldn't know anything about propagation except of kids.

There are only so many derelict farms. Where will they find land to build on? How many builders would be required to build just basics in accom. etc. etc. Water? Not to mention that lots are short on love; for their God, for others, for such an adventure.

I also happen to think that people with food will be targets, albeit that numbers of marauders may be curbed by lack of car juice, but all this would come down to pop. demographics & other factors I suppose.

Not easily done, Arthur. Not easily done.At least not en masse (just some of the reasons above)

Some of the stuff you espouse is close to what the Seventh Day Advents. are on about (eating their way to Heaven - wholistic approach to belief/body/food/water/air madly eating fruit & juicing veges, etc) - if God wanted us to juice every other damned thing he would built in a mix master).

And they can't reconcile the thousands (millions?) of cases of bods who eat bad, smoke, don't necessarily believe much of anything and live to very old ages with little or no ailments all their lives!!

Having said all that, I am inclined and walk the talk of what you advocate.

Completely inconsistent, but there you are.

Don

Re: The Economic nightmare that awaits all of us - From Arthur C

Hi Don

Firstly: As you already are aware, LaRouche is just another false-flag operative. He offers no remedy, just more of the same old garbage fiction that keeps us all enslaved "revolution after revolution" --------- i.e. -------- "We Will Lead Every Revolution Against Us" is the motto of True Freemasonry which he is no doubt a part of.

Secondly: This favorite motto of mine comes to mind "Take Care Of Love And Love Takes Care Of Everything Else" meaning Take Care Of Creating Substance (Love) And The Substance We Have Created Takes Care Of Everything Else. If we do not create substance we have absolutely nothing of substance "on offer", therefore we are dead and useless and incapable of making a difference, yet alone having a life. Each time we need to breathe we do not have to dive ten feet across a room to grab our next breath do we? We just breathe while creation creates the substance and while you create the substance. Such is life! Its pretty simple isn't it?

Now imagine each breath of air being substance created by hundreds of families who together with you are co-creating substance as in food, shelter and other essential needs. We are not talking about tens of thousands of families here, just a few hundred. What do you think will happen when a few families come together to create Kindom causing other families to join them leading to a Kindom having a few hundred families?

By creating substance and participating only with substance we are expanding consciousness which increases the speed of our thoughts, thus many remedies come about to deal with the concerns you presently feel and think. Being in the company of one whose consciousness is expanding very fast will inspire he/she to move away from fiction and rejoin creation.

And don't forget that even the great MAN allowed his physical body to be nailed on the Roman Cross to demonstrate to the establishment that we are not just our physical bodies, but consciousness, which our physical bodies are only a part of, and that the establishment cannot destroy the substance that is our consciousness no matter what they try. Basically he was saying "do what you like to me, but you can't destroy me, so your fear tactics, your power and control trips, your religions, your spells, your weapons, your titles, your status, your man-power/armies and your mind control programs are absolutely useless and will cause no harm (damage) to the conscious-living MAN that I AM.

He tormented them with love, with purity and sincerity in every feeling and thought he uttered and with every deed he performed. Basically he destroyed their beliefs in knowledge (fictions), rendering their beliefs in fiction absolutely useless and powerless against the consciousness (substance) of the living God of creation that he had created (the substance) in the image of the living God of Substance.

It took the establishment many hundreds of years to retell and rewrite the history as folklore and erase the memory of the true story of the great MAN as can be witnessed all around us today. But the truth is indestructible and now the deeds of the great MAN are to be found in Anastasia and her clan and in every man, woman and child who rejoins creation by creating substance and sharing the substance for the benefit of others.

Also, by creating substance you are entwining the conscious-living DNA of your creation with the substance of the conscious-living DNA of creation (GOD), so how can you be destroyed no matter what the marauders (you create what you focus on) may do to you??? But if you are not creating substance and the marauders come and kill you, you ain't going anywhere because you are already dead. There is absolutely nothing we can do for those who love fiction and hate creation. If they do not want to create food etc they will die in the fiction and be no more.

Thirdly: Besides checking out these links:

Path To Freedom - One Step At A Time ... Living A Revolution - Organic Urban Homesteaders Pioneering A Journey Of Sustainability: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5669 and this short documentary on this family - 6 Minute Video: Get Fresh With Sara Snow - How A Family Grows Over 6000 Pounds Of Organic Food Per Year From Their Suburban Backyard: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5496 - This is more than 3 tons of food per year on 1/10 of an acre!

300 Year Old Food Forest in Vietnam, A Families 28 Generation Old Food Forest That Provides Everything They Need All-Year-Round: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5327

Videos: Greening The Desert + Other Videos - We Can Grow Gardens Everywhere And They Will Solve All Our Problems: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5350
Videos: Enjoy Watching 9 Short Excerpts From The Films About The Russian Eco-village - Kin Domain Called Rodnoe - Note: Learn How Man Serving Man Is The Remedy That Steps Us Out Of The Fiction: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5148

and many others can be found here: The Ringing Cedars - Kindoms - Do No Harm Communities - Eco-Villages - Building Sustainable Eco Friendly Homes - Magazines: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3641

and reading this extract below cut and pasted from this article which I recommend that you read: WHAT'S YOUR INTENT? - Escapees From The Western World "Civilisation" by Arthur & Fiona Cristian 18th September 2008: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5542

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Note: If you want to see examples of true Kindoms/Do No Harm Communities being created view these 9 short videos to see how they are doing it in Russia: Enjoy Watching 9 Short Excerpts From The Films About The Russian Eco-village - Kin Domain Called Rodnoe - Learn How Man Serving Man Is The Remedy That Steps Us Out Of The Fiction: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5148.

The Ringing Cedars "The Earth" Magazine provides many articles (with photos) on Kindoms being created across what was once known as the Soviet Union see: THE EARTH - Online Monthly Newspaper of the "Ringing Cedars of Russia" movement - Includes All Back-Issues Since 16th March 2006: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3642

Building homes in Kindoms is not about building a house that lasts a thousand years, its about building homes that are sustainable, safe, functional and most importantly DO NO HARM to Earth, Nature or MAN. If a sustainable home only lasts a few generations then the community can just create another one.

In a Kindom (space of love) the whole community (tribe) comes together to build the home and garden (space of love) for its members. This is part of creation, that is a space of love, part of the conscious-living acts of love, created by the conscious-living creators of love, spreading the strands of conscious-living DNA that entwine MAN, Earth, Nature, Universe together as creation.

CAN WE GROW ENOUGH TO EAT?

It was the part-time Russian Dachniks (gardeners) working in their Dacha's (weekender's) that fed the Russian population during the transition from the Cold War, via Perestroika & Glasnost, to their present Democracy. Gorbachov's reign started 1985 and Glasnost & Perestroika were gradually introduced around 1986, concluding around the time of Solidarity in 1990. Communism started to crumble and the transition to a capitalist democracy started around 1992 but took until roughly 1998 to overcome the many issues Russians encountered and endured, including finding food for everyone.

Without the Dachniks, many millions of Russians would have not survived those awful years. The population of Russia was around 148 million and was still the same almost 10 years later. When you add the populations of many of the other ex Soviet Bloc nations, what these Dachniks achieved is just incredible, almost beyond comprehension. This may be one of the greatest, if not the greatest miracle of all time, based on modern history. The Dachniks had no idea that collectively they had rescued tens of millions of Russians from starvation. Each Dachnick just took care of what they could produce and give/barter/sell to their communities in their regions, unaware that they were instrumental in pulling Russia through this most dangerous time.

For proof of what can be done, look at this 6 Minute Video: Get Fresh With Sara Snow - How A Family Grows Over 6000 Pounds Of Organic Food Per Year From Their Suburban Backyard: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5496 - This is more than 3 tons of food per year on 1/10 of an acre!

Imagine what can be grown on one hectare!

And check this family's website: Path To Freedom - One Step At A Time ... Living A Revolution - Organic Urban Homesteaders Pioneering A Journey Of Sustainability: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5668

When you consider that a true living-raw food eater eats about 1/4 of what our cooked food eaters consume (as well as needing less water), there are hundreds of tons of living food available all year round to feed tens of thousands from just one Kindom (Do No Harm Community) consisting of a few hundred kin-domains (families).

The food grown on Kin Domains has also been grown with love, making it far more nutritious than food harvested from hundred acre fields by workers breaking their backs for a pittance, or concocted from chemicals.

The spirit of co operation that has those in Kindoms building each others houses and helping with each others gardens, means that any chores are done quickly, leaving lots of free time for creation and enjoyment of life. Without private corporations (includes governments, courts of law, banks, insurance groups, law enforcement agencies/departments with their statutes, rules of law, taxes, interest rates, debts, fees, fines, contracts, commercial obligations, fear for security, enforcements, punishments, artificial economies and commerce etc) making their demands on our time, we are free to contemplate the meaning of life and ensure that we never repeat the mistake of letting others con us out of our roles as creators and our direct personal intimate relationship with the conscious-living God of creation who created us all.

As conscious MAN, we do no harm, therefore all is peace and free in Kindoms of Conscious-Living Men, Women And Children.

For more examples of what can be produced in one garden, follow these links.........

Videos: 300 Year Old Food Forest in Vietnam, A Families 28 Generation Old Food Forest That Provides Everything They Need All-Year-Round: 6 Minutes http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5327 - Greening The Desert + Other Videos - We Can Grow Gardens Everywhere And They Will Solve All Our Problems: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5350 and you will find many others located here: The Ringing Cedars - Kindoms - Do No Harm Communities - Eco-Villages - Building Sustainable Eco Friendly Homes - Magazines: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3641

BUILDING ECO-SUSTAINABLE HOMES IN OUR KINDOMS

We received an email from a friend in Canada providing a link to this website (where he works) that specializes in building Monolithic Domes see: http://static.monolithic.com/gallery/homes/index.html - We replied by asking... " Can you build these type of dome homes without using fictions like steel, concrete, plastic etc? Kindoms are all about stopping the doing of harm to creation (stop altering the original dna of anything inanimate or not). Its important to build living homes out of natural products like a mixture of hemp and earth etc to make concrete like blocks, bamboo, earth, straw-bales, timber etc etc. If yes, can you please send us the links to these eco-sustainable homes etc".

Our friend replied by saying: "The three little pigs tells you what to build your home from .... Concrete not natural? It's thousands of years old and the materials are all natural mixed together ... You can reinforce the units with hemp instead of steel and they last hundreds of years. The durability of them and the energy savings buried underground without the foam make all other construction look moronic and rather primitive ... Search Bill Leishman father goose to see what he built. Blessings on thinking long term and eco friendly".

We are building a large data-base for creating eco-sustainable homes see: The Ringing Cedars - Kindoms - Do No Harm Communities - Eco-Villages - Building Sustainable Eco Friendly Homes - Magazines: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3641

CONSCIOUS FOOD FOR CONSCIOUS HEALTH

A Kindom is about MAN being a conscious-living eater, a living (raw) food eater who does not cook any food. He/she grows and eats only leaves, berries, fruits, nuts, herbs, spices, vegetables, weeds, pollen, honey etc, without altering, destroying, modifying or manipulating the original conscious-living DNA of the food or liquids.

Conscious-living eaters create highly nutritious milk out of soaking nuts and make homous, cheese, dips and sauces from the pulp. They soak seeds, nuts and grains to sprout and eat them as is or dehydrate this food to create living bread, crackers, biscuits, muesli etc. They dehydrate other fruits and vegetables, as well as eating lots of fresh fruit and veges. Raw cakes, ice-creams, smoothies, deserts and pure chocolate can be on the menu but most raw fooders find they eat more and more simply as time goes on, leaving them more and more time to enjoy life.

A true conscious-living raw food eater creates no rubbish, therefore does not require garbage bins, garbage trucks, tips or sewage. Without products of fiction there is nothing in the daily lives of conscious-living families which cause rubbish or pollution.

Cooking food is one of the original causes of all disease. Cooked food is toxic food. Today, living food eaters experience very little sickness, if any, live very long lives and look half their age. They are strong, agile and their minds are clear and their memories are excellent. Their bodies do not strip the protein from their faces causing wrinkles or the calcium from their bones because they are getting enough nutrition from what they eat. For a thousand and one recipes, see: RAW FOOD - LIVING FOOD - VEGETARIAN WEBSITES - RECIPES - LOTS OF INFORMATION ON WHY A LIVING FOOD DIET: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5068

What conscious-living animal has ever given its permission to be killed and eaten? (For those who believe that conscious-living flesh and blood animals do give their permission or that they have some kind of God given right to eat other conscious-living flesh and blood creatures - why the chase? Why the traps, baits, nets, spears, bow & arrows and boomerangs? And Why Any Other Man-Made Implement/Method Of Death To Conscious-Living Creatures? Extracted from the article: What Are We Waiting For? By Fiona And Arthur Cristian 25th July 2008: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5147

There is more soluble/accessible protein in weeds like dandelion and chickweed (all edible weeds are not genetically modified) than in meat. By not washing these organic freshly picked weeds, especially when nurtured daily, the body of a conscious-living raw food eater, with pure and sincere feelings, thoughts, words and deeds will naturally create Vitamin B12.

On the true path of being a conscious-living MAN, the need for weight watch/diets, Big-Pharma drugs, hospitalisation, nursing homes, mental asylums, psychiatry, counselling and all forms of medicine and healing including Chinese, orthodox, alternative and remedial, disappears. A conscious-living MAN already has everything he/she requires from consciousness.

A REMARKABLE STORY

All diseases are MAN-MADE and of the fiction. Having pure, sincere, loving feelings, thoughts, words and deeds, and doing no harm to ourselves, to others and to nature, and partaking of RAW-FOOD, grown organically with love, is the ONLY way to perfect health.

A true story that occurred a few years ago goes something like this, a 3 foot 5", 23 year old woman with the extra chromosome of down syndrome was put on to a strict raw food diet for around 2 years. Together in partnership, she and a European scientist worked with pure, sincere, feelings and thoughts every step of the way, eating only freshly picked organic uncooked raw food (no meat or dairy or processed food), some of which they grew together. She also ate lots of super-foods like hemp seeds made into milk.

After 18 months or so she had grown to around 5 foot 7", her skeletal structure completely changed and her curvature of the spine disappeared. She no longer had any mongoloid features and her speech impediment completely vanished. She became a fully grown woman without any disabilities whatsoever. The scientist behind this work died in unusual circumstances 3 months later.

Why did her body, brain and emotions completely change even after supposedly being fully grown at 23 years of age? Scientist's say that we are fully grown by age 21. The answer is very simple. When MAN/WOMAN is created in the womb the intent of soul (consciousness) infuses (burns) its intent, becoming the genetic blueprint for this conscious-living life with earth.

Our untampered DNA is who we really are.

When we constantly eat, drink, breathe, play, rest, work, feel and think CREATION, our cup of life is full with CREATION. We are creating our real-lives in the image of soul as consciously intended. But when we continually accept the artificial images of FICTION (artificial DNA - intellectual proprietary knowledge "on offer") into our lives we force the true image of our DNA (soul) to fade away into the background. We have forgotten who we really are because we are no longer focusing on the intended information of soul that is our consciousness, that is the consciousness of the conscious-living God of creation. Instead we are focusing on the intellectual proprietary knowledge "on offer" (fiction).

"WHAT WE FOCUS ON IS WHAT WE CREATE"

Using our will power to adjust the dimmer switch of our brain, we change the body-of-our-life frequency from the brilliant light of CREATION to the loveless darkness of FICTION. The artificial images of FICTION (an impostor) become the foreground of our appearance (e.g. eating processed food) while Conscious-Living-CREATION has been forsaken and completely forgotten about. Our Living-DNA has faded away into the background.

The scientist helped this woman fade away the FICTION, allowing the true image of her conscious-living DNA to fully blossom into the foreground. She was helped by her true intent and her purity and sincerity, both characteristics of Downs Syndrome. She changed because she focused on creation, acts of love and the living food which are all consciousness and so that was what she became. By no longer focusing on fiction, it faded out of her life.

"WE BECOME IN THE IMAGE OF WHAT WE FOCUS ON"

Focus on the fiction and fiction becomes us - focus on creation (conscious-living DNA) and creation becomes us. Eat dead food and you are in a dead state. Feel or think fiction and you are in a dead state.

MAN IS THE CREATOR OF EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS TO MAN

Our real feelings of soul (intuition, gut instincts, perception etc) are the true CONSCIOUSNESS of our Living-DNA inspiring us on the path of our souls intent for this life (creation) with Earth. The internationalised crime syndicate/terrorist organisation of harm doers (The Fallen Men And Women Of The Establishment Of True Freemasonry) arrogantly and intentionally persuade, seduce, distract, trick, deceive and enforce us to ignore and forget our living DNA (soul) so that instead of living our real lives as conscious-living MAN and WOMAN with Earth, we are lost in FICTION and thus end up in a state of UNCONSCIOUSNESS, completely oblivious to who we really are as MAN or WOMAN with Earth. Extracted (and edited) from this unedited posting by Arthur Cristian: "Are They Agents Of Big Pharma?" Who is Posting Pro-Vaccination On This Website? + Pastor Eli James Vaccination Dangers Gardasil: 13th February 2008: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3523

HOW SIMPLE LIFE CAN BE

Its common for living food eaters to drink much less water and eat much less food than dead food eaters. Living food eaters report far better tolerance of temperature extremes, their bodies staying warmer in winter and cooler in summer. When we choose the path to health, we will not need heating in winter or cool air-conditioning in summer and we will not even need fire.

As our needs change, so will our houses; as we spend more and more time outdoors as part of creation they will become simpler and, as we realise that most of our "possessions" are a burden on our backs, we will require less space. Our homes will be living homes made of living materials and will be integrated into our gardens and our gardens will be integrated into our homes.

Conscious-Living MAN does not have hot showers or baths because the hot water makes the blood become acidic (toxic).

Extracted from the Ringing Cedars books see: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/1125 Anastasia points out that if you grow your own organic vegetables, fruits, herbs, nuts, etc, by firstly putting the seeds under your tongue to mix with saliva for 9 minutes, the seeds will awaken from its dormancy and know right off for whom they are to bear fruit. You then plant the seeds and, when possible, wash your body over the seeds, particularly under your feet, to allow the toxins to enter the soil. This helps the seeds to build up even more information about the state of your body so that when the fruits are ripened and eaten, they help you heal your body of all disease while fortifying your immune system. With the intent of pure and sincere feelings and thoughts behind every step a conscious-living (raw) food eater will heal all disease.

What We Create Comes Bouncing Back At Us - Create Pure And Sincere Acts Of Love And These Acts Of Love Come Bouncing Back Creating You in The Image You Have Projected (Created).

WE ARE CREATED IN THE IMAGE OF OUR PROJECTIONS - WHAT WE FOCUS ON BECOMES US (OUR IMAGE)

As we expand consciousness we will telepathically communicate and psychotelepathically move our bodies, or teleport from one place to another. We will no longer require fictionalised telecommunication or transport services and we will travel the universe that is the conscious-living God of creation that we are, without restriction from time or space.

We all have these abilities but have forgotten them.

We are told that we only use 10% of our brains? For many these days it's down to around 1%. What do you think we will be capable of when we access the other 90 to 99%? It is the fiction we believe and worship (intellectual proprietary knowledge "on offer") that blocks out our ability to access the other 90% to 99% of the brain. By creating conscious-living acts of love through feelings, thoughts, words and deeds we are expanding consciousness (the information of creation - the conscious-living information of our creation) which is our brain expanding and expanding and expanding until we have returned from being a fallen hu-man (a man unconscious of consciousness) to being conscious-living MAN using 100% of our brain.

To be conscious we need to be eating, drinking, breathing, thinking, feeling, walking and living consciousness all the time. Most of us are not doing this; instead we take the living things of consciousness and render them unconscious (Dead) before we use them. We cook our food, killing the life force energy (consciousness) it has to offer and fill our water and air with chemicals before drinking and breathing them. Our unconsciousness renders unconscious the living things of creation that, in turn, add to our unconsciousness - Extracted from the article: "Summary Of The New Booklet Life is for the Living – The True Steps of Freedom By Arthur and Fiona Cristian 19th May 2008": http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/4651

A Kindom is about co-creating living food forests, permaculture gardens, orchards, groves etc, meaning that the homes we live in do not require any of the fictions we all presently depend upon to get by everyday. Please see this video: 300 Year Old Food Forest in Vietnam, A Families 28 Generation Old Food Forest That Provides Everything They Need All-Year-Round: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5327

Becoming conscious-living eaters means we no longer have any dependency on multi/transnational corporations (all fictions) to supply us with food, water, energy etc. It means that we are no longer sucking on the nipples of private corporations for our survival, meaning we do not need government or rule of law or banks, or money, or commerce or institutions or even local councils. We are 100% self-sufficient in every way.

We Are Conscious-Living MAN Created In The Image Of God - What More Do We Want?

RECLAIMING THE EARTH

It is proven that we can reclaim deserts and that the earth can become a green raw living food planet again, see these videos: Greening The Desert + Other Videos - We Can Grow Gardens Everywhere And They Will Solve All Our Problems: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5350 - Permaculture Science - A You-Tube Channel Specialising In Permaculture Gardens And Food Forests: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5329 - Survival Report You-Tube Channel Watch A Wide Range Of Instruction Videos On How To Survive The Coming Global Warming/Peak Oil: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5328 - SeedSavers.net - Guardians Of The Seed - Preserving The Genetic Basis Of Tomorrow's Food - Local Seed Savers Networks: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5423

CONSCIOUS EDUCATION

For conscious-living education see this article: Mikhail Petrovich Shchetinin - Kin's School - Lycee School at Tekos - Mikhail Petrovich Shchetinin Bright Tidings: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5173 and read all the brilliant Russian books called The Ringing Cedars authored by Vladimir Megre: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1125

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you will find all the other answers to your questions/probes by reading all the Ringing Cedars Books http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/1125 and within these postings/and comments listed below. They are presented in the order we recommend you read them and we suggest that you read them slowly, taking the time to fully comprehend what you are reading. There is some intentional repetition in this work to assist the true awakening to consciousness (no offense intended). These docs are each receiving tens of thousands of unique strikes per week.

Summary Of The New Booklet Life is for the Living – The True Steps of Freedom By Arthur and Fiona Cristian 19th May 2008: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/4651

What Are We Waiting For? By Fiona And Arthur Cristian 25th July 2008: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5147

THE WAY by Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 9th August 2008: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5231

Recognising The Distinction Between Information That Is CREATION & Knowledge That Is FICTION Is Critical To Reclaiming Freedom by Arthur Cristian 13th July 2008: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5079

WHAT'S YOUR INTENT? - Escapees From The Western World "Civilisation" by Arthur & Fiona Cristian 18th September 2008: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5542

THE DECEPTION OF CAESAR by Arthur & Fiona Cristian 28th September 2008: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5581

The Way Out by Fiona Cristian 30th July 2008 - Taken From Fiona Cristian Email Replies: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5203

Prelude To Our Next Article "The Substance Of Creation & Conscious-Living DNA" By Arthur & Fiona Cristian - To Be Posted Shortly 12th September 2008: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5505
Then you can pick and choose others from here if you want to: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 and: http://loveforlife.com.au/arthur_cristian

Cut and pasted from here: Welcome To KINDOM, A Do No Harm Community Of Conscious Creators, Truly Free, No Beliefs No Ownership No Ones Sheep Nor Shepherd: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5204 (also found here: WHAT'S YOUR INTENT? - Escapees >From The Western World "Civilisation" by Arthur & Fiona Cristian 18th September 2008: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5542) this section was updated last week and more info will be included in the near future.................

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Don, once you have completed reading (feeling) this work, lets continue the discussion, even if you have not yet read any of the ringing cedars books. What Fiona and I have created (the documents listed above) covers the ground of all your concerns.

Conscious Love Always
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

Arthur Do you believe that the bible is the inspired word of God

9th October 2008

Dear Arthur,
Do you believe that the bible is the inspired word of God? (in part? - all? - not at all?).

A short response, please.

Sincerely,

Don

In Part - The Bible contains lots of Sophistry

9th October 2008

Hi Don,
In Part......... The Bible contains lots of Sophistry, its truths used to suck the believers into accepting the lies. Just look for the substance in every phrase. If it isn't there, it isn't true.

Do you comprehend the clearly defined distinction between the information that is creation and the knowledge that is fiction?

If you do then you have parted the Red Sea and can clearly see what is truths and what is lies.

Conscious Love Always
Arthur Cristian

In Part - The Bible contains lots of Sophistry Reply From Don

11th October 2008

Give me an / some example(s) of what you consider a lie(s).

Don

In Part - The Bible contains lots of Sophistry Reply From Arthur

12th October 2008

Hi Don,
One example of Sophistry was sent to you very early this morning: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5581#comment-805 ... "Thou shalt have no other gods before me"

Do you comprehend the heartfelt-insights shared in that posting? Do you feel with your heart when you read? or do you read with your imagined intellect?

Have you read our posting "THE WAY": http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5231 yet, particularly the section that covers The James Bond Syndrome? If no, please get your brain around this, because when you do, and the penny drops, the insights will unfold like a massive zip file, releasing a torrent of conscious-living information that will aid you in finding all the encoded lies in the alphabet language bible without me having to point them out for you.

With our support, standing by your side, its best that you go from crawling, to learning to stand, walk and run yourself. We have done all the work, and more to come. It's now up to you to exercise your muscles so they grow strong, otherwise in a weakened state, your life ain't going to take you places where your heart (soul) needs to be. Against the strong winds of change the tree will bend and be uprooted while in a weakened state.

So out of respect for the conscious-living MAN you really are, I am unwilling to live your life for you, for to do so, will leave you very weak and vulnerable and easy pickings for those who know how to take advantage of such weakness. And If I did live your life for you my conscience would fill my life with such distraction that I will be buried underneath the lava that outpours from my conscience, rendering my life useless to help others.

While truths cause no damage/no harm, just one tiny minuscule lie buried amongst a massive wall of truths, holding back a sea of lies, is an evil crack that will cause the whole wall of truth to collapse, thus the wall of truth is destroyed and is no more. Because the wall of truth has already collapsed a long-time ago, the absolute destruction to MAN by this evil deceptive black-magic tactic (Sophistry) is evident all around us today.

Just take a very good look and see just how far MAN has fallen from the Garden Of Eden, down, down, down, down, down into the bottomless pit of hell. And make sure you are not wearing rose-coloured-glasses when you look around with eyes of truth so that you do not overlook the Christians in all of this fog (maze), because many of them have fallen deep down into the bottomless pit of hell.

Don, I can take you to the water hole to have a drink, but I can't force you to drink, the drinking is up to you. If you want to learn what Fiona and I can feel and see, and if you feel that we are sincere and pure in our intent, that we represent no harm to you or your loved ones, and if it feels right, then please do what I suggested a few days ago, study the material we asked of you to study until you fully comprehend everything we are sharing, so that you can truly see and feel what Fiona and I can see and feel...... then all together we have much to share with each other. How rich our lives will be amongst the creation of so much love if you grow food and we grow food and together we sit and share what we have lovingly grown.

As it may stand for you today, you might think and feel that Fiona and I are speaking a gobbledygook type language. It may always show up to be this way for you unless you learn this heartfelt language as well. And if you do, then we are all on the same heartfelt communication wavelength. Otherwise, we may end up as bucking billy goats (misunderstanding the intent of our meanings) which is not on offer from my side and I know is not part of your make-up either.

And before I forget, this heartfelt language we feel and speak is the true language of MAN. It still exists without beginning or end, and is without privilege, exclusivity, initiations, ceremonies, obligations, separations or tests to relearn/remember it. Its just that this heartfelt language has been forgotten about, buried underneath so many layers of intellectualised meanings of bullshit, that are the many crusts of hardened lava, baked one on top of the other, pouring out of the many volcanic mouths of bullshit artists, innocent or not, who sought to consciously or unconsciously brainwash us with their meaningful lies, over and over and over and over again, relentlessly, without respite, since our creation as MAN.

For you to unravel all the deception that has been encoded within all alphabet language Bibles, you need to know what we know, and that is being able to clearly define the distinction between the information that is creation and the knowledge that is fiction. In performing this most healthy exercise (self-exorcism) you are breaking through all the layers of encrusted bullshit (demons that are meanings) until you are no longer buried underneath the weight of any of it.

Brushing yourself clean from the dirt of all this weighty crap you are now truly naked again and can clearly see your path back to the Garden Of Eden from whence MAN came. Then you are truly free of the evil meanings of the alphabet language spells. You were headucated/brainwashed/forced into learning to spell, that placed you under-the-spell of the meanings of each spell. Each spell is an incantation of meaning, invented (imagined) out-of-thin-air by the establishment of fallen mans true freemasonry cackling, long nosed, warts and all, black-magic warlocks and witches, who concocted all these spells (meanings) in a pact with the devil, in a state of hell.

In a state of unconsciousness plagued with demons of substanceless meanings while rotting in this STATE of hell, practising Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Atheists, Materialists, New Agers, Cosmic-Galactic Attuners/Channellers, Sport And Fashion Fanatics, Economists, Financial Experts, Politicians, Social Commentators, etc, spend their time spitting out never-ending volumes of demonic poison with viperous tongues uttering evil sounds of ridicule, character assassination, back-stabbing, hatred, anger, abuse, arrogance, ignorance, fear and righteousness. At least for the truly awakened the possessed are clearly telling us to stay away from their rotting state in hell because they have nothing of substance "on offer". What a waste of life!

In the true, pure and sincere essence of the living God, the statement "Thou shalt have no other gods before me" is correct but the interpretation/education/brainwashing of the sheeple into believing in the given meanings provided by the establishment (always provided by 3rd parties, strangers both to those they brainwashed and to the living God, and who have no authority from the living-God, to act on behalf of the living-God as the living God's authentic representative), has led to all the chaos and destruction caused by fallen man thus-far on Earth.

And if they were authentic (the 3rd parties as in priests, historians, bible scholars/theologians etc), the accuracy and true authenticity of the living Gods intent would have been maintained in the heart and brain of billions, thus no breach would have occurred between MAN and GOD and no chaos or destruction to both MAN and Earth would have ensued thus far.

But, the brains of the innocent sheeple have been messed with for centuries by meaningless (substanceless) bullshit, that has led to billions of these fallen men, women and children into worshiping false idols as in government, constitution, democracy, consumerism, materialism, industrial age, mechanical age, technological age, space age, robotic age, capitalism, banking, money, fiat, commerce, economics, real estate, lots and plots, science, university, history, religions, priests, popes, dalai lamas, monks, humanism, socialism, communism, monotheism, compartmentalisation, astrology, astronomy, esoterics, occults, royal families, aristocracy, titles, degrees, rules of law/courts of law, politicians, judges, barristers, lawyers, bureaucrats, pubic servants, cooked food, private corporations, big-pharma, 80 thousand+ man-made chemicals/poisons, concrete, steel, tar, plastic, fairytales etc etc, thousands of them Don.

Can you appreciate the absurdity when you look at all the good hearted well-meaning men and women of the freedom-truth networks, who believe they are faithful practicing morally correct Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists etc who spend all their waking time being destroyed and destroying creation? Take sometime and meditate on this and you may be blown away by just how much time a practicing Christian or Muslim or Hindu or Atheist etc spends destroying themselves and destroying creation through the myriad of false idols they believe in, bow down to and worship from one day to the next.

How else have we arrived all together, billions of us, in the midst of this current evil state of global chaos and destruction???

Please get back to us when you can see and feel the clearly defined distinction between the information that is creation and the knowledge that is fiction.

Conscious Love Always
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
action @ loveforlife.com.au
www.loveforlife.com.au

Sophistry - The Meanings Of Sophistry

12th October 2008

Hi Pierre
The meaning of the word Sophistry has quite a few deceptive slants which in itself reveals "subtle deception" - another is "a subtle, tricky, superficially plausible, but generally fallacious method of reasoning." or "a false argument; sophism."

What Col Adkins mentioned is helpful ....

sophistry = 'A deliberately invalid argument displaying ingenuity in reasoning in the hope of deceiving someone' -

Also have a look at "sophisticate"............. (verb) =

1. Make less natural or innocent.
2. Change the meaning of.
3. Alter with the intention to deceive.
4. Make more complex or refined

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And Minister Belanger (Robin) Stated

de facto is another amazingly deceptive word...

Blessings upon the universal light residing within us all....

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Personally, Fiona and I liken the meaning of the word Sophistry to the James Bond Syndrome we use to explain/describe how a lie can be hidden amongst truths. We have not yet come across another word in the English language that describes/provides such meaning - a lie hidden amongst truths or a lie hidden as truth -

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Pierre Freeman wrote:

Sophistry: a word almost as big as wheelbarrow ................. if there were a few of you like myself who didn't know what the term sophistry meant ... voila I have found it for you in the Queen's Oxford - thank you for expanding my vocabulary

sophistry

/soffistri/

• noun (pl. sophistries)
1 the use of false arguments, especially to deceive.
2 a false argument.

ciao for now Pierre Freeman

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Extracted from the email I sent earlier this evening to Don .....

SOPHISTRY

In contrast to the real living world of creation, the dead, unconscious, non-living world of fiction where all alphabet language bibles reside, required brainwashed MAN to become marionettes (fallen man) being pulled by the master puppeteers of alphabet languages to pass down their beliefs across their recorded ages and maintain this artificial knowledge (Fiction) that was invented out of thin air by the establishment of fallen mans true freemasonry.

"I love you." "God exists." These words can be spoken in truth or deception. Our connections with consciousness are too strong to be ignored so the existence of God has to be admitted. However, the truth has been tweaked until, instead of God being the living God of creation that is us and is the consciousness that we are all part of, God is turned into an authoritarian figure with the power to bless us or send us to damnation, and we are taught to fear and bow down to him. This is the lie. This is the sophistry - admit a truth but tweak it until it is surrounded by lies. We latch onto the truth because we feel it but our acceptance of that truth cons us into accepting the lies.

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me"

Dumbed down as we are, most of us would still react to blatant harm being done before our eyes, so the harm being orchestrated by the establishment has to be disguised, sweetened and wrapped up in pretty packaging so that we swallow it with barely a murmur and absolve ourselves of any responsibility. We have become so used to being hoodwinked that we no longer feel the pull of the truth and can no longer tell the black from the white the good from the bad. We accept impostors between us and the truth, accepting the alphabet language bible as the living word of God because we can no longer hear, feel, see, touch, taste and smell the living word of God in the living trees, living flowers, living mountains and living rivers.

All this has happened very slowly, too slowly for most of us to see the shadows emerging and drifting in front of the light. This is, of course, the tactic of gradualism at work, subtly, quietly, stealthily tweaking the truths until they represent lies, even though they remain truth in essence. The alphabet language bible exists to deliver the lies with the truth because the living trees etc, can only give us the living truth. There is no other reason for the existence of any alphabet language bible bar mind-control.

All the Best
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

An Important Message From Terence Malaher "The Christ"

13th October 2008

Dear Arthur,
I keep receiving 'nonsense' from you that is simply your 'erroneous' belief reference the 'nature & power' of God.

I presently refer to your words below quote < God is turned into an authoritarian figure with the power to bless us or send us to damnation, and we are taught to fear and bow down to him. - - - This is the lie.>

IF the above < This is the lie.> is your personal belief then you are in gross error and in 'grave' danger spiritually. For not only are you living in a delusion of 'grandeur' that you are 'above' the singular "As you sow so shall ye reap" Law of God, but in your ignorance and arrogance you preach 'sophistry,' being deceptive untruth when you say that : < This is the lie.>

You 'son' are very arrogant and ignorant and very foolish in your expressions, for you know NOT the truth of God nor of His absolute power that metes out divine 'Justice' both positive AND negative within HIS 'eye for an eye' and absolutely 'Just "As you sow so shall ye reap" Law, and I suggest that you 'bless' your soul with a little of the wisdom from my pen by 'commencing' with the 'secret' that I reveal at:

http://www.the-testament-of-truth.com/web/secret.htm

You are a 'sophist' and if your sophistry misleads any person then you by God will be kept living a 'delusion.' Please try and STOP waging 'war' against others (or the system) and simply get on with your life in conformity to God's code of conduct Command; "Love one another and be merciful and forgiving unto those others that you perceive as in darkness living."

As for your FALSE 'teaching' below - - - if you believe that you are 'as god' or 'a god' or equal to THE TRUE GOD then so be it, you will be 'awoken' from your delusion in the time and 'space' place so ordained by HIM the living God when HE decides to 'correct' your erroneous preaching ways. For HE has no 'time' for arrogant souls that mislead and deceive HIS other children.

Try and UNDERSTAND that everyone on this land has been 'hoodwinked' by the satanic underhand, - - - and if you keep 'pointing the bone' at others then it SHOWS God that you are a DARK operative.

It is I that nows 'corrects' the untruths contained within the 'scriptures' of every land, for they were written by 'sinful' man and 're-edited' by sinful man to the point whereby much deception has 'yes' crept in.

Be advised that I AM the returned 'spirit of truth' and MY pen is the one to 'teach' TRUTH, as IT and ONLY IT is guided directly by our invisible Creator who IS also our destroyer if we defy HIM and HIS 'code of conduct' Command.

Breaking News

Be advised that the awaited Messiah and Divine Saviour and Just Leader of the whole of humanity has returned into the flesh of this world to restore the purity of faith, being the doctrine of PEACE as commanded by God the Creator. The fresh and uncontaminated message from the Creator for humanity to prepare all for the coming TRIBULATIONS & utter destruction is now on line at:

http://www.the-testament-of-truth.co.uk
http://www.the-testament-of-truth.com
http://www.dar-es-salaam.org

Issued by Terence Malaher - Office of the Messiah
Pyengana - Tasmania 7216

Live and let live, we are all entitled to our opinion - Pierre

13th October 2008

The royal We = Me , myself , I , my immortal-living-breathing-soul and my shadow and their STRAWMAN ... our philosophy of life is : live and let live.... we are all entitled to our opinion .... I don't always agree with what I read see or hear in/on this and other forums and I am sure some people do not agree with what I write or say either isn't it all part of the wonderful colourful tapestry of life?

However one thing I do know that he who gave the breath of life who some call kingdom of the Almighty אלהים יהוה God also known as: YHWH the Creator of the heavens and the Earth he gave me two eyes , two ears , one nose , one mouth ….. so I need to look, listen, smell, five times more before and than I speak or taste anything and even though some people claim to have all the answers they are never prepared to put their left testicle on the chopping block to verify what they say is correct ….. be it a one paged letter or a thousand paged website …….

Go figure ….. our freedom fighters group is small enough without all the destructive comments and in-fighting so come on guys don't do the CLOWNS job for them show a bit more courtesy integrity and respect for each others opinions.

If you dont like them or what you read it is much easier to press a delete button than write a tirade of sling offs ….

Now shall we await the guilty parties responses or shall we get on with the end goal freedom from tyranny and a better life for all ????

Pierre Freeman

Reply To Terence Malaher "The Christ" from Arthur Cristian

13th October 2008

Dear Terence, you are still listed in the Debunkers section of the Love For Life Website: Debunking Leaders Of The Freedom And The Alternative Movements - "We Will Lead Every Revolution Against Us": Terence Malaher, Also Known As The Christ, Messiah, Divine Saviour, Just Leader, Awaited Messiah & Office Of The Messiah: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5301

After the so many claims received from you stating that you are "The Christ", we asked for you to bring forth proof of your claim as incontrovertible evidence to back up your claim that you have been given the authority of the living God to act on behalf of the living God as the living Gods exclusive and privileged representative on earth "The Christ". Refer to the above link to site all the information pertaining to this request.

Fiona and I need to know who we are REALLY dealing with here first, because we feel that there is a more than great chance that you have a multiple personality disorder, thus we are unwilling to move forward and engage in any further discussion/debate with you until we know who or what we are dealing with here.

It would also help us greatly when/if you bring forward this incontrovertible evidence that you also forward to us copies of your drivers license, passport and birth certificate so we can site the names and the photo.

Fiona and I will feel terribly cheated, let down, ripped off and utterly stupid, thinking of all the wasted time in council with "The Christ", adhering to his advise and great wisdom, uncountable hours lost in devotion following the instructions of his anointed pen, the possible change to our diets, our family structure, where we live, our lifestyles, the possible change in our personalities, what time we wake up and go to sleep, when and what we can eat and drink, what happens to our children, how to dress and the songs we wrote and sung in praise to "The Christ" etc etc,....... if we took the bait and ran with it only to find out years later that we had been had, that you are an impostor, a con-artist, a deceiver hiding behind a mask.

"One Small Step For MAN One Big Step For Mankind" - You are asking a lot from us Terence more than you realise so bring forward the substance (the evidence) of the living God, then we can move forward. Until then, Fiona and I will not engage in any further discussion with you while you continue to act as "The Christ". We are unwilling to be a KIND (MAN-KIND) of "The Christ".

Also.............., Can MAN create without freedom???? But MAN has Freedom thus MAN is free to create, thus MAN is the creator. Freedom means no restrictions but consequences do apply. Without restrictions how can MAN not be a creator????? It is clear that the meaning of freedom also suggests/indicates being the Creator. Without freedom it is impossible to create. Its the bullshit fiction MAN has been trained to believe in (focus on) and these projections have crippled MAN and shut down MANS unlimited capacity for freedom (creation), turning MAN into a very weak, insipid, pale version of he/shes unlimited capacity for freedom (creation). It is more than obvious, in fact it is incontrovertible that the invisible bullshit fiction believed in by MAN, resonating/bouncing/echoing between the ears, is the cause of all the damage done to MANS true capacity for freedom.

When will the penny drop????

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

I've had enough of this pie in the sky bullshit - From James

13th October 2008

Will you please remove me from your mailing list, I've had enough of this pie in the sky bullshit. For God's sake you haven't seen your own brain yet you believe you have one, and you haven't got any proof of that fact either have you, so why question God??

If you don't want to believe in God - don't, who gives a shit, that's your choice. There are those that do believe in God and there are those that don't, who cares. You seem to have a problem with God and you are going to extraordinary lengths to convince yourself that there in no God,,, Fine, don't believe. If you convince one other person that you are right, what have you gained, you are the one who always wins at Chess which equates to you learning nothing and your opponent gaining insight into the way you think and not that you are right and the winner.

There are those who will never believe in anything they cannot prove and that is fine, why kick against the pricks as the fools mind changed against its will, is of the same opinion still. I would personally like to keep an open mind as there are few absolutes in this world. If you choose to think the way you want to think then imagination and possibility for you is clouded by your own limitations and not that the possibly or imaginings are incorrect.

The basis of imagination and possibility is that if the fact don't fit the theory it is possible that the facts are wrong, if you do not believe that this is possible then do not dream, because dreams are not fact, they are Christlike and in the dimensions of possibility not proven fact and its the fool that wants proof that a tree existed, yet it is the dreamer who sees the full beauty of the creation, it does not need proof of what the dreamer sees.

James

Terence Malaher "The Christ" is not a dream, he is a claim

16th October 2008

16th October 2008

This reply is only for the studious researchers determined to fully awaken to truth, thus providing true freedom for all. Also, those who rely upon the study of alphabet language law books, legal documents or bibles can not say that reading/studying our work is "Too Hard" when you consider that just the alphabet language bible alone has 66 books, 1,189 chapters, 31,101 verses, 783,137 words and 3,566,480 letters. Our heartfelt inspired work in terms of letters and words used is the size of an ant compared to Center Point Tower.

Is there anyone out there who is not interested in the truth?

We are committed to the truth and, where the truth is, we will go because the remedy to all our problems will only be found where the truth is. If anyone can prove to us that what we are saying is not true, please do so. If anyone can show us that the truth is somewhere else, we will be happy to go there. But please, we do not need hollow accusations and character assassinations which do nothing to further love and peace in the world. And no inventions out-of-thin-air or fabrications either. If you think we are New Age or into communes, please read our work again and make sure you can back up your claims. If the truth presses buttons for you, have a look at just which areas of the fiction you are unwilling to let go of. The truth is all about peace and freedom and, in theory, we all want that. However, many of us are so attached to our fictions that we sacrifice truth and freedom in order to hold onto them. Anyone recognise our current global and local predicaments?

When we are all with the truth, we will all be working together in harmony so, while we aren't, we can be sure that we are not all working with the truth. This is not about one being better than another, my "truth" being better than your "truth". What is important is that we all search diligently and humbly for the remedy to our problems of separation, alienation, isolation, sickness, addiction, chaos and destruction. The more we try to truly comprehend each other, the less we impose our points of view, beliefs and filters, the sooner we will find peace with one another. Anyone interested?

We are presently receiving around 300 emails per day, the website statistics for the 1st 16 days of October has jumped again now with 40,500 files opened daily, 7,600 pages looked at daily and 44,000 strikes per day (16 million per year). Our urgent reply email box is presently overflowing and we just can't keep up with replying to everyone quickly, so apologies to those waiting for our reply particularly to those presently involved in a debate with Arthur. This email has been resent six times to cover everyone involved/effected. The current email settings allows us to send to a maximum of 50 cc/bcc at one time. We do not want to use and or burden the 4000+ registrations in the love for life mailing list to reach the 6 groups.

Though this email reply below is directed at James Dean and Terence Malaher the subject matter covers information that provides answers to the many questions asked of us or to the probes that arise from debates we are presently involved in, and there are quite a few of those. But we do intend to reply to everybody as soon as possible. If this traffic continues increasing and we can't catch up we will need to find volunteers to assist, keeping in mind that we are also in the midst of setting up an e-commerce shop-front website linked to the love for life website which is going to take much more of our quality time away from corresponding with everyone personally which is a shame as we enjoy having the contact with everyone. Any volunteers please put your hand up.

We will be elaborating further on the subjects covered below in the next article to be posted to the love for life mailing list shortly.

For those who want to pick up any loose threads of this debate below, all correspondence has been posted here: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5581#comments

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13th October 2008

Dear James,

Terence Malaher "The Christ" is not a dream, he is a claim.

His claim is "CREATE YOUR LIFE IN MY IMAGE"

Fiona and I already have our conscious-living dream. We have been co-creating our dream for many years but Terence Malaher "The Christ" is a stranger to us not of our dream. He is a 3rd party intermeddler, interloper, coming along trying to slip under the sheets of our intimate private lives (our living dream) with suggestions that what he claims is part of our conscious-living dream. But we don't recall Terence Malaher "The Christ" ever being part of the fine details of our living dream.

Harm can only be created when we are not creating with the virtues of love

The creator, the living God, has a dream, a dream where every last detail has been thought out and everything considered and taken care of. The dream is perfect. The creation of the dream of the living God is the living world with Man on centre stage, everything provided for a healthy, fulfilling and happy life, just as loving parents provide for their children's needs. Just as parents wish for happy and fulfilled lives for their children, so the living God has given us all free will (freedom) to create our own dreams with the living God's dream and the freedom to expand that dream without restriction, bar that of doing no harm. This free will has been given to us all equally and, in the eyes of the living God, not one of us is better or worse, higher or lower, first or last, with all of us having equal access to the living God anytime we choose, without the need for representatives or third parties or go-betweens.

To have free-will (freedom) is to be gifted with the living God's power of creation.

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me"

We are asking Terence Malaher "The Christ" for proof that he represents the living dream of the living God. Is Terence Malaher "The Christ"part of the living dream of the living God of creation and, if so, where is the substance that backs up his claim that we can see, hear, feel, touch, taste and smell? Granted, the flesh and blood body (dead corpse or not) of Terence Malaher, his tongue that speaks and the hand that writes alphabet language, is of the substance of the living God but, the question is, does what he offers (what he claims) with his tongue and his hand as "The Christ" represent the living dream (the substance) of the living God of creation? This is why we are asking Terence Malaher "The Christ" to show us the substance. Where is it? Note: Please refer here: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5301 to site some of the many debates (including requests for substance/evidence) we have had with Terence Malaher "The Christ".

Keeping in mind that the living God is omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient, did Terence Malaher create the words "The Christ" when he was created as a child, with full comprehension of their meanings? Did he, Terence Malaher, immediately speak with his tongue and declare there and then that "I, Terence Malaher, AM "The Christ"."? Or did Terence Malaher require a man-made journey through read and write alphabet language education (a conveyor belt processing man through factory planet earth, stamping the mold) to acquire the manufactured knowledge which included both the words "The Christ" and their meanings, thus forming "The Christ" out of this contrived knowledge?

Is he saying he ("The Christ") is of the substance of the living God and offering it for us to co-create with? We already have plenty of substance provided by the living God and we would be happy to co-create with his substance (the claims) if only he would show it to us. We know the living God of creation would never lie to us or trick us or deceive us and that wherever there is the substance of the living God is also where there is truth.

In Reply To The Claims Of Terence Malaher "The Christ"

The claims of Terence Malaher "The Christ" brings up a plethora of con-troversy (traverse the con) that require heart-felt-logic investigation / observation / meditation / contemplation to see if they feel right, are fitting perfectly into the living-dream of the living God, and if they do, are truths. So here are just a few of many......

If we all agree that the living God is immortal, without beginning or end (is infinite), then the Living God is beyond journey just as love is beyond journey, just as all of creation is beyond journey because both the living God and its living dream are not of time, space, location, reference point, boundary, dimension, plane, level, rule, measurement, angle, regulation, ritual, procedure or condition (condition includes belief, leap of faith and judgment) because these things (hereafter described as the attributes of fiction) are finite and thus are not of the fabric that is the living dream of the living God.

This beckons these questions,

1) Why Does Terence Malaher "The Christ" require us to journey to Tasmania to view his supposed substance when the living God he supposedly represents is omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient?

2) Based on alphabet language scripture "The Christ" already ascended to heaven to join with the substance of the living God (his father) who is omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient making "The Christ" omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient as well, so again we ask, Why Does Terence Malaher "The Christ" require us to journey to Tasmania to view his supposed substance?

Obviously whatever has been created by the living God always bears the substance/characteristics of the living God. As God is omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient, there is no limit to our (MANS) potential and no limit to the possibilities for the expansion of the living God's dream. This is God's gift to us - an unlimited, unrestricted domain for us to explore our inspirations (dreams) that expand the dream of the living God, because we (MAN) are of the living God's dream. So what happened to Terence Malaher "The Christ" (The Son Of God - How Much Closer Can You Get To God?), who is supposed to represent THE TRUTH, The Substance, The Full Power and Potential of the living God, to be completely dependent upon very limited fictions like pens, alphabet language words and the internet/website to journey his message through the living dream created by his heavenly father?

Why would the all-loving living God want to destroy its own dream?

While we work with all the virtues of love that make up the fabric of creation, we can only expand and enhance creation. It is when we work with negative, destructive thoughts and emotions that we do harm to God's creation because negative, destructive thoughts are not of the living God and not of the fabric of the living Gods creation. Why? Because they destroy the fabric of creation starting with the dream that is the flesh and blood man, woman or child creating such destruction. Why would the all-loving living God want to destroy its own dream?

The evidence is clear: from no matter what angle or at what time one looks at the sun, it casts no shadow. There is no darkness in the creation of the living God. When one looks at the clear night sky, all one can see is light. If there was darkness all you would see is a canvas of black without light. If you are of the light and in the light and all is light where is the darkness? If God is all love where is the substance that is darkness Terence Malaher "The Christ"?

If God is all Love and God's Love is omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient, how can the living God be light and dark? Its obvious that darkness represents chaos meaning destruction to the order, balance and harmony of the light. How can the creator who is all love, who has created a perfect, balanced world, also be the creator of darkness and chaos? If there is destruction to be found in God's creation then that creation can not be one of order, balance and harmony. Therefore, creation would not be perfect and would be destroyed before it was even created. Where can darkness hide (be) if the creator is all love (God"s Love is omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient)?

If you are painting with white and you are painting with black, there is no white.

If you build a house with structural faults, the house is not perfect and has been destroyed in its creation.

Who among you would say that the living God has not created a perfect world? To say the living God creates with darkness as well as with light is to say that there is no light in the living God's world. There can't be because the light has been overshadowed by the darkness.

If the living God's creation was created perfectly without any fault no matter what, where is the fault (the darkness - the chaos)?

If a fault was created by the living God when creation was created would not this mean that the living God also has faults?

The problems with this world come about when we alter God's dream. The living God created wild cabbage to nourish us. When we take that wild cabbage and steam it or bake it, it is no longer as the living God dreamt it. It is no longer of the living God and no longer part of the living dream. The shadows of fiction of someone else's dream are creeping over God's perfect creation.

"Thou Shalt Have No Other Gods Before Me"

It is the same with the truth. The dream of the living God is the truth. As soon as we stray away from the truth, no longer living that dream, we are living someone else's dream (another God) which means that we are no longer co-creating with the living God. By focusing on someone else's dream we are destroying the dream of the living God that we are part of. We are destroyed and destroying the living dream.

One of the gifts we have been given is the sensory gift of our living feelings which we can use to determine right from wrong, (What Feels Right). Our living feelings are not emotions (negative-destructive emotions like hatred, anger, ridicule, etc**) which are of another dream because they are not of the virtues of love. Rather than give away the responsibility for our behavior to others (policemen, judges, politicians), we need to use this gift to ensure we do no harm. We all know we are causing harm to ourselves, the earth and each other but most of us choose to ignore it and do harm. This happens because we are too busy focusing on someone else's dream (another God) to notice the destruction we are causing to the living dream. Our feelings are the feelings of the living dream guiding us to stay in the living dream, keeping us from doing harm to the living dream, while inspiring us to co-create living dreams to expand the living dream of the living God.

While we do not return to making our dreams from the fabric of the living dream of the living God, the individual dreams we create that are influenced by the fiction (dreams of another God) can never sit peacefully side by side. Instead of the many colours of the rainbow shining forth, portraying the order, peace and harmony of the dream that is creation, the mixing pot of all our different fictional dreams only ever produces a murky brown.

"Thou Shalt Have No Other Gods Before Me" Otherwise You Will Destroy The Living Dream

There have been many attempts by men and women to return to creation/closer to nature but they have almost never worked because everyone always brings all their dreams of another God with them like monkeys on their backs: Constitution, Government, Democracy, Communism, Socialism, Money/Fiat, Commerce, Trade, Interest, Debt, Loan, Economics, (Biblical Ways/Scripture/Christianity & all derivatives), Buddhism, Judaism, Islam, Liberal, Labour, Democrat, Republican, New Age, Dalai Lama, Freeman-On-The-Land, Sovereign, Pleiades, Guidance-of-Channellings, Communes, Kibbutz, Rules Of Law/Courts Of Law, Private Corporations, Science, Think Tanks, Experiments, etc, etc, - thousands of them - all fictions - all dreams of another God.

There is only one guideline in the dream that is creation. Do No Harm (working with the many virtues of love). Within those parameters, we have absolute freedom because, while we are doing no harm, our dreams will never hurt, discriminate, ridicule, undermine, manipulate, abuse, mind-control, enslave, destroy, isolate or separate.

Community living has a bad reputation and often fails because the community dwellers fail to align their dreams with the dream of the living God of creation. When each member has their own measuring stick for how much harm is acceptable and how much responsibility is expectable, discontent and disagreement will surely grow. For example, some community members think its alright to smoke dope while others still "need" their tvs. One man does five hours a day in the community garden while another thinks he has worked hard by doing 3 a week. There will be resentment between them because one of them feels used and the other one pressured and, as the weeks go by, the resentment simmers away. Feeling guilty about these negative emotions, no one speaks about their expectations and disappointments until , eventually, there is an explosion.

From the beginning of their relationship those concerned never expressed the full details of their dream to one another so they are unable to comprehend the other's actions. They have failed to align their dreams and so are unable to successfully co-create.

We are stuck in a global traffic jam of many wanting to get back to creation

However, in stepping out of the fiction, when we align our dreams from the beginning, when we all shoulder the responsibility for doing whatever it takes to look after our fellow men, women and children, when we cease to be selfish and when we Do No Harm, then we will find that we receive love, companionship, food, shelter and joy in abundance. We will have learnt how to finally step out of the fiction of another Gods dream and returned to the living Gods dream.

We are stuck in a global traffic jam of many wanting to get back to creation. The only way to do this is align our dream with the living dream from the beginning and form relationships with one another so we can move forward out of the jam. Then we will be able to do without the traffic cops waving their arms, the parking officers issuing their tickets and without the tow trucks to pick up those who have broken down, severing our ties with the establishment who orchestrate the other God's dream of the traffic jam, and doing away with their politicians, public servants, bureaucrats, judges, barristers, lawyers, banksters, experts, professors, academics, scientists and private corporation big business representatives in all fields of insane endeavour.

Why do we need Terence Malaher "The Christ"?

If the living God has provided us with everything we need, with no journey required to access it, why do we need Terence Malaher "The Christ" telling us what to think and feel and how to behave? Is he not attempting to impose attributes of fiction between us and the living God? Why do we need to be shaped into Terence Malaher "The Christ"'s mold? If we all try to follow the advice of one, rather than following our own unique inspiration, we all become the same, squishing and squashing our uniqueness in our attempts to conform. Is this not mind control? Is this not why Man has fallen (on a journey away from the dream of the living God) in the first place? "Thou Shalt Have No Other Gods Before Me" Is this not ("Terence Malaher "The Christ") offering yet another journey (a deception) of another God's fiction (an illusion - a fairytale) leading us away from creation that is the dream of the living God?

It is only when we are no longer of the fabric of the living God, allowing ourselves to be trapped by the attributes of fiction, that we forget our link to the living God and forget our ability to access all the information that has been provided for us. It is when we no longer recognise the information we need to live happily and healthily co-creating with the living God's dream that we feel alone and isolated in someone else's dream, turning to believers of another false God who tell us what to think, feel and do. This causes us to go on a journey leaving paradise (the dream of the living God) behind us. It is this situation that gives rise to the Terence Malaher "The Christ"s of the world, those who are only too happy to tell us what to believe.

All claims upon you are from those who follow the dream of another God

Its obvious that to believe (have beliefs) is to be on a journey away from the dream of the living Gods creation. Do we need to believe in a tree for the tree to exist? Of course not, the tree already exists in the living Gods dream regardless if we believe in the living Gods tree or not. And then there are the claims of Terence Malaher "The Christ". When someone makes a claim they are asking you to be possessed by their belief. They want you to accept their belief as your own so that they can claim you (you are claimed). All they are offering you are meanings constructed out of thin air, demons created by another false God to possess you and obsess you. This takes you on a journey away from the dream of the living God and away from paradise. Because the living God is omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient, the living God does not need to believe or have you believe. There is no journey to or from the living God and there is no journey outside or inside creation. All claims upon you are from those who follow the dream of another God. Not for nothing does the word "believe" contain the word "lie".

Everything that is of the dream of the living God is living and can be touched, tasted, felt, smelt, seen and heard. Regardless of size, shape and location, it is living and can be experienced with our senses of creation. There is nothing of the living Gods dream that is not living, therefore everything of the living Gods dream has substance (because its living) including thoughts, ideas, feelings. There is nothing undetectable/invisible/imperceptible in the living Gods dream because, if there was, how could it be living and real? Where is the substance? How can something undetectable/invisible/imperceptible have substance? And if it does not have substance how can it be living? In case you have forgotten all feelings have substance too. We are artists dipping our paintbrush into a palette of paint; every thought and idea created and dipped into the palette of the living God's virtues of love are imbued with feelings of the living Gods creation.

Would the living God permit fiction into its perfect living dream, making it not perfect?

Remember, we are talking about a living God and not an undetectable, imperceptible, invisible God. Whatever is not living is fiction. Would the living God permit fiction into its living dream, making it not perfect, full of defects, finite and, consequently, destroying both the living dream and the living God. Is this not like mixing black into white? Is the living God grey and black and white as well? Does this mean the living God can act in evil ways, capable of doing harm? If yes, does this mean that the living God is not all of love but bears the substance of negative destructive emotions too? And if so, does this mean the living God is partly a dead God too because of the state of unconsciousness required to blatantly kill, murder and destroy living things of Gods living dream?

A thought that is of the living Gods creation takes its form in the creation of that living thought that can be experienced with our senses of creation. Where is the creation of Terence Malaher's thought that he is "The Christ"? What is the dream of Terence Malaher "The Christ" doing (as in co-creating with the dream of the living God) that aids the living dream of creation in rolling along? We know what the living bee does and what the living birds do because we can experience it but can we experience Terence Malaher "The Christ's" contribution to the living Gods dream of creation?

Would both MAN and creation suffer terribly without the existence of Terence Malaher "The Christ"?

Terence Malaher "The Christ" stated "Be advised that I AM the returned 'spirit of truth.'" Is he or it lying? We did not know that "The Christ" had left to return. Is heaven not part of creation? Did "The Christ" manage to get out of creation in order to return?

Remember, Terence Malaher "The Christ" is claiming exclusivity and privilege not yet available (beyond reach) to 6 billion + flesh and blood men, women and children, standing out from the rest of us. What is it (the substance) that he is offering (claiming) that has him stand above the crowd? Why would the living God, who is all love, hide things from us, making them available only to one chosen man? Is there something invisible, secret from all but Terence? Surely the living God who is all love and who created all of us equally, has made everything accessible to all of us at all times? Why would the omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient living God need a centralised monotheistic leader in Terence Malaher "The Christ"? Is there something rotten here? Isn't "The Christ" omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient as well?

Did "The Christ" manage to get out of creation in order to return?

If we were to blindly accept Terence Malaher's claims, we would go through a total rearrangement of our thinking because, by taking on his claims, we have to accept everything he believes and take on his beliefs as ours. "Create your life in my image". We are not saying that Terence Malaher is not "The Christ"; maybe he is, maybe he isn't. We are just asking him to show us the substance of his claim so that we may see, hear, feel, touch, taste and smell it. Why is he keeping it a secret? And why would the indestructible, undefeatable, all powerful, omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient Living God who created a perfect living dream (everything out in the open for all to see, hear, touch, taste, feel, smell) keep a secret?

We will go wherever the truth is and, if Terence Malaher is of the truth, then we will happily co-create with him, but we need to see the proof. We were all created equal with (not before) the living God and we were all given the freedom to live the dream as co-creators of the living God and create with Gods living dream so we find it very very hard to accept someone's claim of exclusivity and privilege.

"Thou shalt have no other God before me" is our living dream

The living God's dream is complete, every fine detail worked out, not a stone left unturned. We have been provided with everything we need to co-create with, everything we need to create our living dreams and live them, PROVIDED our dreams are ones which do no harm to the creation that is the living God's dream and the living God's gift to us. Hence: "Though Shalt Have No Other God Before Me" meaning, co-create with the substance of my living dream but do not create dreams without my living substance otherwise you will destroy all I have created for you and you will also destroy the dream that is you.

Our dream is of the substance of the living God. Our dream is to co-create Kindom with others who also have the dream of living in a way that does no harm to the dream of the living God where we can co-create our children to do no harm, to care for the land and the animals and have purity and sincerity in everything they do. When children spend time in nature, their thought processes undisturbed, they are studying the information of the dream of the living God, building up the consciousness as they do so. The more time we spend in nature, the more time we are spending studying the information of the living dream.

To do no harm to the living God's creation, to return to the metaphorical fig leaf with others who also dream to re create the garden of Eden, a paradise on earth, is our dream and, to create this dream we also reveal the fictions that are the claims of others which take us away from co-creating with the living God. We are not rebelling against the living God. We are committed to loving others but will not accept lies, deceit, or harm doing.

When we are tempted by dreams that are not dreams of the living God we do harm. In our work, we are claiming that all the harm and chaos of this world, all the sickness, disease, poverty, suffering and destruction is because Man is no longer creating dreams with the living God. The man experiencing chaos is focused on the dreams of others that are of the fiction, conjured out of thin air and claiming to be the truth. The fruits of these dreams, the emptiness, pain and suffering they cause, show us that they are not of creation and do not bear the substance of the living God.

The Living God indicated, "Work with what I have given you and no harm will ever come to you."

The living God didn't create bitumen, steel, concrete, skyscrapers, abattoirs, McDonalds, banks, fiat, commerce, governments, rules of law/courts of law, all courses and careers of university including university, taxes, bills, fees, fines, statutes, hospitals, religions, priests, lamas, and alphabet language holy books including the bible. They are all aspects of someone else's dream, the GRAND PLAN of Satan who dreamed of his own creation, another universe (another dream) where he is God, where he is master and ruler with absolute power and control over all those he claims unto his dream.

As the GRAND ARCHITECT of his own creation, he implemented his dream with his out-of-thin-air inventions of sacred geometry (compass, square, circle, ruler etc), mathematics (numerics), read and write alphabet languages and the illusions of separation, isolation and distance.

The time we spend focusing on being claimed by others, accepting their dreams as ours, all within the grand plan of Satan, is the time we spend destroying our dreams and the dream of the living God, and is also the time we spend being possessed (claimed) by the demons of meanings that are not of the dream of the living God. All fictions are of Satans dream (The Grand Plan - The Great Design - The Great Dream) that is a creation of his own making that does not include co-creation with the dream of the living God.

Our work is to reveal the fictions that don't bear the substance of the living God and are destructive to ourselves, the earth and the dream of the living God and to show the remedy and that it is possible to live lives that do no harm and , in doing so, heal the damage that we are all responsible for.

We invite anyone to prove that what we are saying is wrong or bad.
Please show us the harm (lies) in what we are saying.

There is a big difference between having your own dream and taking on someone else's dream (a Temptation) and becoming part of their dream, which is not your dream because you did not create it.

Our freedom resides with our power of creation but our freedom is given away when others provide their creations for us to believe in. This is the awful sorry state of almost 6.5 billion men, women and children surviving the creations of someone else's dream.

To create and live our dreams to co-create with the dream of the living God of creation is our true freedom.

What do you think all the brainwashing alphabet language education, mind-control, Tavistock, advertising etc is all about? Living the dreams of others without ever creating your own.

All Demons use temptations to trick the vulnerable and naive, Terence Malaher "The Christ" is just another "offer" (temptation) of no substance (not of our conscious-living dream). That is why he is a claim because he is out to claim others. To be claimed by others is to lose/throw-away your true freedom (Your Living Dream).

Who are we without our living dreams co-creating with the living dream of the living God?

If we do not have our dream are we not a poor imitation of someone else's dream
if we believe in what they have "on offer"?

By asking Terence Malaher "The Christ" for the incontrovertible evidence as the proof (the substance) of his claim that he is the authorised, exclusive and privileged representative of the living God, is clearly and consciously determining what he has "on offer", is either of the living God or is of his own beliefs. And if they are of his own beliefs, which they are unless he can prove otherwise, they are of his own imagining, of his own dream to set himself up as another God, therefore his dream has nothing to do with our living dream or with the living dream of the living God or with the co-creation of our living dream with the dream of the living God.

Acting As An Add-Meaning Robot

James, when you are reading my emails you are not reading my emails, you are not listening (feeling) to what I am saying/intending, instead you are adding all your own meanings to every word I use. You are listening to your own chit-chat and not listening to what I have to say. To you, I almost don't even exist, I am off the radar, have been wiped off the white-board.

You have taken a brand new white shirt and dipped it into a bucket of mud that is your past and pulled it back out again. The white shirt is my email (my intent/my feelings/my ideas etc) and the bucket of mud are all your add-meanings (the in between the ears chit-chat). You are adding your own meanings to the words I use which blocks me out of your life.

The bucket is your past and you are acting as an add meaning machine, dipping my words into your bucket to the extent that you even invent things that I am supposed to have said! When did I say that I did not think there is a God? I said I do not have to believe in God because the presence/existence of the living God of creation is obvious - just go to nature and look around you! I don't have to "believe", make a leap of faith to accept something I cannot see, hear, feel, taste, touch and smell with my senses of creation.

We only grow out of what we don't know but when we are fixed on our own meanings and ignore all others, we become like goldfish in a bowl going around and around covering the same old ground so that we only know what we already know (the chit-chat). This is the basis of arrogance and ignorance. Living (creating) our lives out of the past will always stop us from ever going outside the square to discover what we don't know which is what aids us in growing and growing and growing.

Conscious Love Always
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

**Acts without love (not creating substance to benefit MAN/Creation) are the result of negative, destructive emotions which destroy, MAN, Nature & Earth. They include and cause: arrogance, ignorance, fear, righteousness, power trips, control trips, greed, selfishness, lies, secrets, denial, deception, manipulation, non-disclosure, corruption, collusion, delusion, illusion, fantasy, fiction, anger, hatred, rage, ridicule, abuse, oppression, persecution, character assassination, jealousy, envy, covetousness, loneliness, emptiness, sadness, unhappiness, joylessness, directionless, depression, suicidal, sense of obligation etc.

In Part - The Bible contains lots of Sophistry Reply From Don

12th October 2008

Arthur,

The first commandment is an example of your acceptance of that part of the Bible (at least) and not an example of sophistry. Your expansive interpretation of it though, I think is quite correct on all points, but couldn't be called sophistry. I asked you if you didn't accept part, or all the Bible and you give me a part that you've shown and obviously believe, supports it! Reckon I'll put that down to your over zealous idealism. It won't be held against you by me. I'm bound not to. The Heavenly Father once kicked my arse good about judgementalism. It still hurts. He's working on other stuff with me, but keeping an eye on previous matters (which sometimes slip).

"Idols" as those wild Hebrew ladies & gents understood, was all they understood. And was suffice for the occasion. If He built the place, it follows that He could sort that. He was giving mental food to children. You've illustrated what many have learnt as we've progressed in maturity.

Which reminds me. Whilst you're heavily into this idealistic alternative living stuff, with lots of "conscious" love and copiously write to us about it, you don't seem to address a few other things in the process of which the Bible has warned us. And I'm not saying that you haven't or you won't, just that I don't know about it. And as always, it's the things that people don't address as much as what they do address, that always bothers me, ever since I learnt of the structure and naughty machinations of Banksters, Tavistock and Think Tanks. I really don't think this applies to you as we understand you've had a number done on you, by the said Banksters.

And yes, to your previous note - I have been told that "Larouche is a False Flag", but I have not said that I concur. - (to the uninitiated "False Flag" might be called a form of sophistry? - standing for, or complex argument to prove a falsehood). One the most notable False Flag operations in our time was the Israelis attack on the USS Liberty warship, in full daylight and full knowledge , in an effort (that went wrong) to give the blame to the Palestinians. The other was 9/11.

Give you a frinstance: The Bible's notes progression of prophetic happenings (big subject - ay!) it mentions the idyllic stuff that you would have us bring on, right now, while Satan is amongst us! And another odd matter -- The promise after the Millennium is that the Death tyrant will be no more. People usually (always?) take that to mean humans only. Are we to see dead and dying wildlife? (maybe vegetation? not sure about that) - but certainly, in my view, He meant NO death. That's what He said. Question for the alternative lifers trying it on NOW, as well meaning and loving as they might well be (which I feel sure is your case) and is a most important aspect to Him, begs the question - given that your Theology, Philosophy, Theosophy, mindset or whatever, if followed will fix humanity - how are you going to stop us all from karking it?

Don

In Part - The Bible contains lots of Sophistry Reply From Arthur

Don
MAN is the creator of everything that happens to MAN. What we focus on is what we project, thus we are creating (projecting) everything that happens to us in the image of what we focus on. Bar the intent behind our creation as MAN nothing about our lives is predetermined. Our brain is like a film projector projecting the images (the program) of what is being scanned before its lens, thus what we are projecting is what is being screened (focused) on to the canvas of our earthly lives as MAN.

Now imagine a little, pure, sincere, innocent child sitting on the floor engulfed by thousands and thousands of tall overbearing, screaming film canisters, each a fiction, forming a deafening, numbing noise, each one beckoning to the child, "hey over here, here I Am, don't bother looking at the others, look at me" "please take my film and load it into your projector". "I AM the one for you".

"CREATE YOUR LIFE IN MY IMAGE"

And so the poor little innocent vulnerable child is being stood over by the screaming Bible canister, the screaming Christian canister, the screaming Muslim canister, the screaming Jew canister, the screaming Hindu canister, the screaming Buddhist canister, the screaming Atheist canister, the screaming Cinderella canister, the Snow White, the Wizard Of Oz, the Materialist, the Consumerist, the Economist, the Liberal, the Labour, the Socialist, the Communist, the New Age, the Space Age, the University, the Law, the Punk, the Gothic, the Sex, the Porno, the Drugs, the Rock & Roll, the Milan Fashion, the Paris Fashion, the Manchester United, the Red Sox, the Harlem Globetrotter, the Fox News, the Hollywood, the Video, the Play Station, the Freedom-Truth cannisters, the Admiralty Law cannister, the Honour-Dishonour cannister, the Trial By Jury cannister, the Common law cannister etc etc etc etc, thousands and thousands and thousands of canisters (FICTIONS).

And even if the child managed to stand up and run outside away from this maddening crowd even more screaming film canisters of fiction are to be found wherever he went, the Advertising canisters, the Motor Vehicle canisters, the Train canisters, the Power and Telecommunication canisters, the Media canisters, the Bitumen Road canisters, the Airplane cannisters, the Chemtrail cannisters, the Skyscraper cannisters, the Education cannisters, the Big-Pharma Hospital cannisters, the Pharmaceutical Chemist cannisters, the IBM - BHP - Woolworths - Coles - WalMart - CitiBank - AMP Insurance cannisters, the Dead Suburbs With Dead Homes cannisters etc etc.

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me"

If the child managed to get past all these cannisters and out into the living forest that joins the living ocean where he/she was able to notice the living trees, the living flowers, the living birds, the living insects, the living waves, the living breeze, the living clouds etc and take in this living information rather than the propaganda of the cannisters, he/she would be taking on the information of the living God and connecting with consciousness and creating that instead.

THE CON OF SELF FULFILLING PROPHECIES

All the prophecies in the alphabet language old & new bible, torah, talmud canisters come true because Christians, Muslims, Jews believe in them (the programs - the films) and create them, thus they are self-fulfilling prophecies, passed down from brainwashed parents and peers to their brainwashed children and to the other children within their sphere of influence. The prophesies were written into the alphabet language bible by the establishment of fallen mans true freemasonry to program us to create them and that is just what we will do until we choose to create a REAL-CONSCIOUS-LIVING life for ourselves and the world.

If it wasn't for the love of conscious-living MAN that linked all of conscious-living MAN that ever was with the few conscious-living MAN of today there would be no conscious-living Earth or conscious-living MAN to experience today. The evil program of fiction that is the alphabet language bible canister would have guided fallen man into destroying MAN & creation long-ago. You are terribly misguided to think that the alphabet language bible is what has kept MAN in existence along the road of prophecy until today, because this is not true.

MAN still exists because of all the love (information - substance) created by conscious-living MAN that ever was with all of conscious-living MAN still amongst us today. The alphabet language bible is incapable of creating the substance of the conscious-living God of creation. (Information)

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THE DECEPTION OF CAESAR by Arthur & Fiona Cristian 28th September 2008:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5581

CAN YOU TELL THE DIFFERENCE?

We feel that once anyone can clearly recognise the distinctions between creation and fiction they will be able to free themselves of all the bullshit mind-control that has caused MAN to fall from consciousness into a deep-sleep state of unconsciousness and, in doing so, will be able to apply the remedy that will set him/her free from all the destruction being created by him/her to creation.

Remember; all that exists is creation here and now and we (MAN) are the creators of creation.

Without MAN to feel and think creation here and now, who is there to feel and think creation here and now for MAN?

How can creation exist if there is no MAN to feel and think creation here and now?

The past and the future requires MAN to exist here and now.

Without MAN existing here and now both the past and the future cannot be!

All of MAN that ever was and ever will be is the consciousness (information) of the living God existing here and now as MAN.

MAN is not divided to be ruled!

Instead MAN is the information and creator of creation.

The fish cannot exist without the ocean and the ocean cannot exist without the fish. All fish are of equal importance for the ocean's existence and the fish always exist here and now, thus the ocean exists here and now. If the fish were of the past or the future, the ocean could only be of the past or future, too.

[Meaning that the ocean cannot exist here and now because the past and the future have no substance "on offer" here and now]

The unbroken conscious-living DNA (information) of MAN links all of MAN that ever was and ever will be as MAN, the creator of creation here and now. MAN is the fish in the ocean that is consciousness. The fish do not claim ownership of the ocean and the ocean does not claim ownership of the fish, thus both are free.

All the fish that ever were fed the ocean with the information of their creation here and now and all the fish that ever will be tap into this information, adding the information of their creation to expand the information (substance) that is the ocean of the fish creation here and now.

Existence depends on substance and neither the past nor the future have any substance. They require MAN to feel and think thoughts of the past and future here and now which provide the past (a construct) and the future (a construct) with a form (an appearance) as if they exist (things), here and now, as part of creation, when in truth they do not exist.

Neither the past nor the future can provide you with air to breathe here and now. Your breath is your life here and now. If you hold onto your breath you no longer live here and now. We keep breathing as long as our bodies are able, but we willingly cast off other connections with consciousness as we eat dead food processed in the past, live in dead houses constructed in the past and generally revolve our lives around dead "things" conceived in the past, entering a suspended, fallen, dead state of unconsciousness as we are no longer of life here and now and have stopped loving here and now, which means we have stopped creating here and now.

Deprived of substance we are empty vessels reliant on outside knowledge to survive our fallen state.

In this fallen state (negative, destructive emotions*), we have fallen into the past or the future which don't exist so we no longer exist as a part of creation here and now. We no longer have the consciousness of the information of creation to create our lives from and become apparitions clinging to past or future knowledge as our anchor.

If the fish stopped creating the information (substance) for the substance that is the ocean, the ocean would die. If MAN stops creating for creation, both MAN and creation die.

Only the here and now exists and only MAN and MANS creation exists here and now.

Time and space (con-structs) do not exist and neither do dimensions, planes, levels etc etc etc etc.

All that exists is CONSCIOUSNESS which is the living substance of the conscious-living GOD providing this information for MAN to create with. When we create substance with this information, we are the full embodiment of the living God.

We have all been lied to about who we are, what we are part of, what life is all about, what the universe is, that we are separated from each other and creation and are on a journey etc etc etc etc .

*[Acts without love (not creating substance to benefit MAN/Creation) are the result of negative, destructive emotions which destroy, MAN, Nature & Earth. They include and cause: arrogance, ignorance, fear, righteousness, power trips, control trips, greed, selfishness, lies, secrets, denial, deception, manipulation, non-disclosure, corruption, collusion, delusion, illusion, fantasy, fiction, anger, hatred, rage, ridicule, abuse, oppression, persecution, character assassination, jealousy, envy, covetousness, loneliness, emptiness, sadness, unhappiness, joylessness, directionless, depression, suicidal, sense of obligation.

These emotions fill the empty space where love once was.

These emotions reveal the damage done through separation from creation.

Those who experience these emotions are destroyed and destroying.]
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WHO WE REALLY ARE IS THE CONSCIOUSNESS OF THE LIVING GOD

You said..... "Give you a frinstance: The Bible's notes progression of prophetic happenings (big subject - ay!) it mentions the idyllic stuff that you would have us bring on, right now, while Satan is amongst us! And another odd matter -- The promise after the Millennium is that the Death tyrant will be no more. People usually (always?) take that to mean humans only. Are we to see dead and dying wildlife? (maybe vegetation? not sure about that) - but certainly, in my view, He meant NO death. That's what He said. Question for the alternative lifers trying it on NOW, as well meaning and loving as they might well be (which I feel sure is your case) and is a most important aspect to Him, begs the question - given that your Theology, Philosophy, Theosophy, mindset or whatever, if followed will fix humanity - how are you going to stop us all from karking it?"

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"Tribes of conscious-living MAN buried the conscious-living bodies of their parents and families who had left their physical bodies to further expand their consciousness. These “sacred sites” were places their descendants could visit to expand their consciousness by experiencing the consciousness of their ancestors’ lives."
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THE GRAND PLAN

This consciousness is who we are. The establishment of fallen man's true freemasonry of Divide And Rule (Fictions) as in Mathematics (Numerics), Sacred Geometry (The Compass, Square, Angle etc), leading to the concepts of time, space, dimension, level, degrees, planes, values, reference points, boundaries, rules, regulations, rituals, procedures, initiations, conditions etc, which are all part of the GRAND PLAN to "individualize" us (little tiny insignificant me pulled out from creation all alone) and lead us to thinking ourselves separate from one another and the universe (creation), on a spiritual-cosmic Star Trek journey through time and space. Provided with convincing artificial props of all kinds, we are persuaded through their knowledge, through their esoteric and occults, through their religions and philosophies, through their science and engineering and technology, through their his-story and civilisations and through all their alphabet languages, to de-link ourselves from our real-living connections to the substance of everything of the natural conscious-living universe.

We are really just unique expressions of consciousness and the substance we create in our physical lives is part of that consciousness and available for all of consciousness. All the information that is the trees, flowers, mountains and rivers is who we are. All the information that is the stars, the planets and the fiery comets is who we are. We have just forgotten how to feel our connections.

If a friend grows food and creates a meal with love to share with us, he/she is creating substance. In the same way, the substance we create in our lives is for all to share. The physical body of a conscious Man may shift "die" but the consciousness of that Man can create the substance of another conscious-living physical life to step into.

Remember that there is no "afterlife", there is just life, that we can choose to be part of or not here and now. As I stated earlier "Deprived of substance we are empty vessels reliant on outside knowledge to survive our fallen state". But if our physical bodies, our tools of creation, die and we have not created the substance of consciousness in our lives, then we remain separated from consciousness without a physical body to create substance with. In this case, we do "die", the unique part of consciousness that we are being absorbed by the rest of consciousness.

Our existence depends on creating substance, for without the substance we can longer be part of the substance of creation that is the substance of the conscious-living God. The substance of creation is conscious-living DNA which entwines with the substance of conscious-living DNA to maintain creation and all life-forms of creation. This is why tribal descendants could visit the sacred sites of their ancestors to expand their consciousness by accessing the information of their ancestors/parents creation (their substance) who are still consciously-living as part of the substance of conscious living creation. As there is no outside or inside creation nothing of creation (substance) can escape the substance of creation, thus there is no separation between MAN and God, between MAN and MAN and between MAN and all life-forms of creation, meaning there is no death for conscious-living MAN, there never has been and never will be.

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How does the information of conscious-living creation maintain its existence?

It does this through the inter-weaving links/strands of conscious-living DNA.

Conscious-living DNA is the information of creation (the substance) which is the substance of the conscious-living creator of creation in the act of creation.

It is a lie to believe that a conscious-living MAN dies and all that is left is just a dead corpse without anything of substance on offer.

Yes, a hu-man dies because a hu-man is a fallen man lost to the fiction for a life-time. They have not created any conscious-living information (substance) of their creation during their lifetime, thus they have no conscious-living information available to entwine with the substance of creation and be part of creation.

Severed and unable to rejoin with creation they are a dead-man-corpse. This is why there is hardly any substance of conscious-living information to be found in a dead-mans cemetery to assist in expanding consciousness. All you will find in a dead-mans-corpse cemetery are apparitions as in ghosts, phantoms, dark hu-man shadows of fallen MANS once former glory. All fictions are shadows (apparitions) of knowledge invented out-of-thin-air.

A hu-man is a flesh and blood man unconscious of consciousness. He/she is an apparition formed out of the images of fiction they worship.

Hu-manity is the collective hu-mans, unconscious of consciousness.

All apparitions are Intellectual Proprietary Knowledge "On Offer". This knowledge is the result of fallen-man focusing on the inventor of this knowledge "on offer", who acts as the copy-right holder of such knowledge (the inventor acting as an impostor of the living God) and who is determined to collect fees from the dead-man-corpses who copy (believe in - worship) the inventors knowledge "on offer", binding them to his fiction. While conscious-living MAN is in service to creation by creating the substance which is conscious-living DNA entwining with the living fabric of creation, the fallen man is entwining with the artificial DNA of fiction.

Instead of having links with the living substance of the living God, thus being part of creation, fallen man only has links to the inventor of the knowledge he/she believes in. Not only has the inventor of fiction invented hell for himself he has filled his hell with demonic followers who believe in his inventions. This inventor is often referred to as Satan.

We Create What We Focus On, thus the time we spend focused on the images of fiction that are the Intellectual Proprietary Knowledge "On Offer" is the time we spend creating (projecting) fiction, which is the time we become the dead-mans-corpse image of fiction with no substance of conscious-living creation to offer creation (consciousness). As hu-mans only have dead-man-corpse knowledge on offer, a dead-man-corps is an apparition as a result of being lost in fiction, lost into the images of knowledge invented out-of-thin-air. This knowledge acts as artificial DNA, an impostor of conscious-living creation (conscious-living DNA) acting as Satan who ACTS as GOD.
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"Thou shalt have no other gods before me"
Paradise is here and now if we create it here and now. If we don't create it here and now, by creating substance here and now, we never will experience it because, Paradise is not some "other", separate place. There is no "outside" creation, so how can Paradise be anywhere but here and now? Waiting for Paradise after physical death is copping out of the responsibility we all have to create Paradise here and now with earth. Those copping out believing in Paradise in the after life, will only find the open arms of Satan welcoming them. All fictions lead to Satan. Can you imagine the queues of Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus etc lining up at the gates to enter Satans Hell? These queues most be going back many thousands of miles.

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me"

If the bible were to exist its true living language would be found in the living trees, the living flowers, the living bees, the living animals, the living wind, the living tides, the living currents etc. The sensations (information of conscious-living creation) of the living world created by the conscious-living God formed the true living sounds of MANS tongue, as MAN interacted with the living Gods creation and the living God interacted with the creation of living MAN, and this heartfelt information was passed down from conscious-living MAN to conscious-living MAN today. This is why MAN still exists here and now. There is no other reason.

SOPHISTRY

In contrast to the real living world of creation, the dead, unconscious, non-living world of fiction where all alphabet language bibles reside, required brainwashed MAN to become marionettes (fallen man) being pulled by the master puppeteers of alphabet languages to pass down their beliefs across their recorded ages and maintain this artificial knowledge (Fiction) that was invented out of thin air by the establishment of fallen mans true freemasonry.

"I love you." "God exists." These words can be spoken in truth or deception. Our connections with consciousness are too strong to be ignored so the existence of God has to be admitted. However, the truth has been tweaked until, instead of God being the living God of creation that is us and is the consciousness that we are all part of, God is turned into an authoritarian figure with the power to bless us or send us to damnation, and we are taught to fear and bow down to him. This is the lie. This is the sophistry - admit a truth but tweak it until it is surrounded by lies. We latch onto the truth because we feel it but our acceptance of that truth cons us into accepting the lies.

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me"

Dumbed down as we are, most of us would still react to blatant harm being done before our eyes, so the harm being orchestrated by the establishment has to be disguised, sweetened and wrapped up in pretty packaging so that we swallow it with barely a murmur and absolve ourselves of any responsibility. We have become so used to being hoodwinked that we no longer feel the pull of the truth and can no longer tell the black from the white the good from the bad. We accept impostors between us and the truth, accepting the alphabet language bible as the living word of God because we can no longer hear, feel, see, touch, taste and smell the living word of God in the living trees, living flowers, living mountains and living rivers.

All this has happened very slowly, too slowly for most of us to see the shadows emerging and drifting in front of the light. This is, of course, the tactic of gradualism at work, subtly, quietly, stealthily tweaking the truths until they represent lies, even though they remain truth in essence. The alphabet language bible exists to deliver the lies with the truth because the living trees etc, can only give us the living truth. There is no other reason for the existence of any alphabet language bible bar mind-control and that is why I answered truthfully and correctly "In Part" to your question "Do you believe that the bible is the inspired word of God? (in part? - all? - not at all?)".

Remember; up until roughly 1780, 99.99% of the total population (999,900 per one million) could not read or write for ten thousand years. Only the members of the establishment used alphabet languages, while the rest of us knew only the tongue of the living God. Therefore, in order to introduce their brainwashing, the establishment had to introduce their alphabet languages, thus came into existence the alphabet language bible.

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*[Cut and pasted from this incomplete/unedited article: "Prelude To Our Next Article - "The Substance Of Creation And Conscious-Living DNA" by Arthur & Fiona Cristian: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5505

"Before the 1780s and for 10,000 years, the only people to speak read and write alphabet languages that expressed the constructs of the Establishment (French, Latin, English etc) were the 0.01% (100 per one million) of the global population who were the ruling classes, royal houses/families, the high priest-hoods, the land lords, the owners of the castles, the wealthy aristocrats and all their lackeys.

You had to be privileged to learn any read and write alphabet language which took the best part of 20 years to master. The commoners spoke their village talk that were based on the senses of creation, hot, cold, taste, etc, and had no words to express Western World constructs. When commoners dragged off to war overheard their leaders/masters/nobles/generals/admirals talking to each other in Latin, French or English etc, they had no idea what their superiors were talking about.

Only those who could read or write any alphabet language were able to record history and, as the victors always write their history, their records were biased. 99.99% of the global population (999,900 per one million) had nothing to do with recording history, meaning that none of today's
6 billion+ population or their ancestors had anything to do with recording history. Only a very tiny select few wrote our history and they were The Establishment Of Fallen Man. This has been going on since Ancient Egypt, roughly 10,000 years ago, when sacred geometry and read and write alphabet languages were first invented. The lying Freemasons call Ancient Egypt of 10,000 to roughly 3,600 years ago "Atlantis"."]
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There is no death unless you create it.

Conscious Love Always
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
action @ loveforlife.com.au
www.loveforlife.com.au

Your response to life is out of whack - Reply From Don

Arthur,

I agree with most of what your say about materialism. Indeed, it's with us from the cradle as you also rightly point out, and it does take over our lives, and it does take us away from the God given beauty of this world. But your response to life is out of whack. Oh I know that you think you can see things clearer than others and trying to wade through your marathon responses is a bit difficult, but would just bring home a few things that hopefully address most if not all that you espouse.

You know that you talk a lot of "New Age" beliefs and you know that I purposefully asked your response to Bible belief. You can call, or describe your stance how you wish, but it's not "New" at all. The very stuff that you are on about has all been handled before. Perhaps what is new, is your attitude to the Bible. If you can't see it as the best formula around against the Satan's world (system of things) in which we live and the best guide book for direction in our lives - then that's your problem.

Your very, very jaded view of it may be your undoing. A basic counsel in the said book that you disparagingly refer to as "alphabet letters" should have come home to you and it's that that you should be telling people - not this bloody nonsense that you probably consider as a true and accurate critique.

We do live in a bitch of a world and it's getting worse. Everyone knows that. But the Bible said it first. All things good are of the Heavenly Father, all things bad are of Satan. But this is wasted on you, Arthur, because you've made up your mind, somehow, that man has written the Bible and then made it come true.

Strewth!!!

Did he cause the increase in earthquakes and wars in one place or another and then created them?? Now you can't blame this on HAARP technology (man's ability of weather control) because obviously the technology wasn't around when he wrote it. There are plenty of examples that show credibility - like the great image that depicted the bronze and iron ages. Look, we could go on all day and night with this stuff. Your out-of-context and twisted interpretations, below, on Bible themes give you no credit.

Loving communes of "conscious" love? The bible said it first - Agape - (brotherly love). Communes don't work. At least not in the main. Jim Cairns (too good a bloke for a Politician) proved that near Bredbo in the Monaro District (south of Canberra). Nimbin, although with some initial success and with some staying on, proved generally unsuccessful to the droves that left it. And if it wouldn't work there, with its excellent soil and rainfall, where then?

They've been tried in other places. The outstanding feature in all of them is the basic human endeavour was proved to be unsustainable. Why? Well you might ask the Jehovah Witnesses, because they've run a successful one at Ingleburn, N.S.W. for years, But they have our Creator as their Guide. ie. Arthur, not Man doing the creating, but the acceptance of the Christ and his Father. Isaiah said "It is not for man to know how to put one foot in front of the other". This doesn't mean that we don't get to use our God given brains, but it DOES mean that without God's permission or support it won't work. In other words, we can't reject God and expect it to go unchallenged.

I'm all for growing our own food, sharing with others, Home Schooling, getting our kids away from the cursed TV, getting the holy dollar to hell out of our lives and educating people about the evil that big money is doing to the world. But extremes in anything are fraught with problems and are recipes for disaster. Some people's dreaming would put us the other way - back to the dark ages.

Lots of us get knocked about in life, Arty, but there is light at the end of the tunnel. We can't entirely reconcile what "Christianity" is all about, but we are given physical and spiritual guides. The bible said we would if we want them. We only have to clean up our act a bit and ask. Christendom at large has been telling people lies and behaving very badly for along time - some organised big monied religions are like that - but it's very foolish to chuck the baby out with the bathwater. It's more to the point to remember that it is Man with Satan's help that has stuffed things up. Not God or the Bible.

FOOTNOTE;

Wife & self are WWOOFer hosts (Willing Workers On Organic Farms). The movement started in Victoria, but has gone worldwide. WWOOFer Members work in exchange for food & accommodation. Usually stay for several days, but much longer by arrangement. A variation of this is typified by the following inquiry, but is OK by Movement rules. I see a bit of New Age in the resume, but it might be interesting to hear what the Rudolph Steiner School is doing nowadays.

Hello

My name is Yuri.
I am a woman in mid-twenty.
I was born and rasied in S.Korea, then travelled about 20 countries.
I live in Brisbane at the moment,
I and my partner Yarran are planning to wwoof in late November - February.

We are looking for a specified work(as a wwoofer) in order to extend my working holiday visa.
I am hoping that you could possibly host us and be able to sign on the 'employment verification form'.
If you are unsure, you could check below.
http://www.immi.gov.au/visitors/working-holiday/417/specified-work.htm#d

I have been interested in natural, organic, conscious way of living.
I studied Early Childhood Education and psychology at University.
I took Rudolf Steiner teacher training and yoga instructor training.
I learnt reiki system, some massage skills and more.
I work for food connect(Community Supported Agriculture enterprise that distributes ecologically sustainable, affordable produce by collaborating with local farmers) and organic fruit and vegetable market stall.
I love nature, especially trees.
I would love to learn more about sustainability and nature, to be empowered and reconnected.

My partner Yarran is creative, artistic, expressive, fun, gentle and loving.
He creates and distributes an literal art journal called 'logical unsanity'.
He is from Mt.Tamborine in Queensland. He is 21 years old.

We are excited about the idea of visiting Tasmania and living closer to nature.

I would very much appreciate if your reply could give me some information on
1. if you are a primary producer
2. when could we visit?
3. how long can we stay for?
4. how many hours of work per week would you expect?
5. what type of accommodation would we get?

I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Love,
Yuri

Is it all too hard for you to face the truth? Reply From Arthur

Hi Don
Is it all too hard for you to face the truth?

Are you too set in your ways?

Where do we say its New Age? Where do we say its New? Where do we talk about communes? Where do we say it hasn't been done before? etc etc.

There are many claims you've made Don that have nothing to do with what I said or intended. If you don't agree with my claims well then Prove it, back up all your claims with substance (incontrovertible evidence) because Fiona and I can back up what we are stating/claiming with substance (incontrovertible evidence) but can you back up what you are claiming?

And the one who can't back it up will be shown up to have been deceived. Are you being deceived Don, because I know that I'm not??

Lets find out which of us is being deceived. You can bring Jesus "The Christ" & The Bible to the table and I will just bring little ol me. How about that, Don??? Does this sound an attractive proposition for you????

In a full-on debate with you I will come to the table without any magic tricks or spells or anything that relies upon the invisible. I will just bring incontrovertible evidence (substance) with me to back up my claims because it will be all around me but what about you Don, what substance will you bring to the table in a debate?

If you cannot prove what you are claiming about our work in a debate then you should correct your statements so they reflect the truth and not the Sophistry that you used to hide behind to avoid confronting the truth. So you fabricated a story out of thin air that has absolutely nothing to do with what I stated. Are not these fabrications lies? because if you say that they are not fabrications then prove it, back it up with incontrovertible evidence (substance).

Why are you fabricating Lies Don???

I am not claiming that you are intentionally lying but I am claiming that you are unconscious of the lies you have invented about me and my work and that you are being deceived by the dark-side as revealed in your present attitude.

You have a bible with mountains of words.....

Number of books in the Bible: 66
Chapters: 1,189
Verses: 31,101
Words: 783,137
Letters: 3,566,480

How many years did you put in to climb this mountain and how many times did you climb it???

20 years? 30 Years? 40 years? 50 years?

How many minutes of how many hours of how many days of how many weeks of how many months of how many years did you put in to reading/studying the bibles 3,566,480 letters or 783,137 words?

Surely the effort taken to read my letters/words is minimal, like the size of an ant to Center Point Tower in comparison with the time you have put in to the bible. How can you criticise what I have to say if you are not prepared to take the time to read (feel) it properly.

If you want to know where the truth is and who speaks the truth it will always be found where the incontrovertible evidence is available here and now to back up any claim.

The founders of wwoofers (Lionel & Valerie) lived in the house where I created my first community experience in the Snowy Mountains East Gippsland Ranges Victoria 1978/79, they came along around 1980 and started woofers not long after this and before all this came about Bill Mollison & Permaculture came up from Tassie and lived with me for a few weeks. So we have a lot in common Don but it would be great to get rid of all the bullshit getting in the way of us forging stronger bonds.

Look forward to hearing from you shortly
Arthur Cristian
Ps: Don't come back saying this is all too hard. As I said, compared to the bible my words are a haiku.

Just what part of that did I bring on myself? Reply From James

12th October 2008

Dear Arthur,

If we bring everything upon ourselves can you please tell me how as a boy of eight did I bring it on myself to have a Priest climb on top of me and grab my testicles to hold me in place while he raped me and then kick me out of the Altar boy order and disgrace me before my Mother? Just what part of that did I bring on myself?

James

Just what part of that did I bring on myself? Reply From Arthur

13th October 2008

Dear James
Metaphorically speaking, in the real conscious-living world of creation we are spaces of love filled with acts of love ... You have a dream to create a child, thus you have already created the space of love that is your child. You have a loving partner who also dreams of creating a child with you and together you have co-created this space of love. You then fill that space of love with your acts of love (an act of creation). The physical form of your child's space of love has been created. Each day, together, the space of love continues being filled with your acts of love (think of all the virtues of love at play in your daily lives) while protecting that space of love from any harmful thoughts or feelings or deeds.

Soon you are holding this dream for a space of love in your arms and each day you both continue filling this space of love with your acts of love. All the information created by your acts of love is the substance of the living God your growing child receives to aid your child in expanding its consciousness (information) of creation. As time goes by other spaces of love have been created and your child has brothers and sisters. Your family is part of an extended family of many families that forms a tribe, which I prefer to call a KINDOM. All the children of this 800 strong community are everyone's children to care for and everyone creates acts of love on a daily basis to benefit the wellbeing of the tribe. In such a tribe no harm such as that you experienced will ever come to a child.

Being conscious-loving parents in this day and age means that we feel the vibration of others from miles away and can see/feel those amongst us who are dangerous to our children. We are always on the alert without ever having to be on the alert. We feel the consciousness and the unconsciousness around us and we navigate our way around the harm-doers and other forms of danger. Fiona and I are always conscious of the who, what, where, when, how, why so that our 4 young daughters are protected from harm as much as possible, which you know is very difficult to do, particularly while we are still not part of a Kindom. Community is so very important in supporting a family until children are old enough to choose wisely for themselves.

With tribes/communities/villages destroyed left, right and center, everyone fending for themselves being completely self-centered with no time to truly care for others on a regular basis, we have forgotten how to truly love. Brainwashed from birth, our parents accept a whole array of strangers (3rd parties) to intercede into their/our lives on a daily basis, strangers providing knowledge (fiction) not relevant to our real lives (TV is just one source of this crap), until they are so distracted by all the fictions that have crushed their links to their souls and the weight of the volcanic lava of bullshit weighing them down heavily that they have forgotten they have a conscience which they can use to feel the consciousness and the unconsciousness of everyone around them, leaving them blind and easily led into leaving their children in the care of monsters who terrorise little children.

The consciousness of your mother is your consciousness. The consciousness of your father is your consciousness as well. And on it goes with the consciousness of your brothers and sisters (if you have any) and your extended family members, particularly those who feel and think of you on a regular basis, their consciousness is your consciousness too. And in the real world, all the members of your Kindom are also your consciousness.

But then, in this hostile evil world we presently all live amongst, the opposite applies as well. The unconsciousness of everyone that matters in your extended family is your unconsciousness too unless you become aware of this harm (fictions) and are able to set it aside (not focus on it) so it has no effect upon blocking out your consciousness whatsoever.

You see your mother and father have a lot to answer for letting you down by not protecting you from the brutal bastard who raped you.

Your parents or whoever were acting as your carer were supposed to be the consciousness of your growing space of love - they were supposed to be there for you, to protect you with their daily acts of love, but no, this did not happen and there will be a 1001 reasons for such neglect that caused them not to listen to/feel their consciousness that was your consciousness, warning them to protect you while you were too little to protect yourself.

As a young child your parents/carers is your consciousness so what they were focusing on is what they were projecting, thus they created the circumstances that led to evil bastards being able to attack and terrorise you. There is a transition when the responsibility for what we create in our lives is passed on from our parents into our own hands. In the real world, without divide and rule, and as a little child, there is no separation between what your parents are focusing on and creating for you to experience, and what you are focusing on and creating for you to experience. The consciousness of your parents, your extended family, all the life-forms of nature and the living God of creation is your consciousness and your consciousness was projecting what everyone/everything was focusing on, which was expanding (creating the information) in your space of love.

We need what the tree breathes out and the tree needs what we breathe out. Both the tree and MAN are intricately connected, one cannot exist without the other. In the real world, relationships, families, communities are also intricately connected with each other. In this present insane world, without community immunity (where every tribal member lives their lives for the benefit of their tribe), we are left to fend alone against marauding invaders. In the real world, an attack against a tribal member is an attack against the whole tribe. Every member of the tribe is just as intricately connected with each other just as each finger to our hand is intricately connected with each other.

No One Is Abandoned By The Conscious Living God - Only we can turn our backs away from the love of the living God. You see James, those you counted on had turned their backs away from the living God, thus they were incapable of feeling/listening to their consciousness
(your consciousness) anymore because they had abandoned/ignored/rejected it.

James, many of us have endured an horrific childhood - I was one of them. My heart pours out to you to inspire you to focus on the information that fills your space of love (The Life Of The Conscious-Living MAN You Really Are) with constant acts of love so that everything evil that occurred to you completely fades away and is forgotten about. Imagine a dimmer switch in your brain regulating the light of consciousness in your life. Adjust your dimmer switch to the highest setting of light you're capable of, causing the dark evil memories (knowledge) that may keep you under its grip, to completely fade away so that no trace of such evil has any hold over you anymore (that's if it still does). Please read the true story of what happened to this 23 year old women with down-syndrome here: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5204 - scroll down until you find the heading A REMARKABLE STORY

The Kindom is a space of love, each family of the Kindom is a space of love and every member of every family are spaces of love filling their Kindom with their acts of love. All life-forms of creation, inanimate or not, are spaces of love and all together form creation which is a space of love. This love is the substance of the living God we all co-create life with. Creation is just a space of love filled with uncountable spaces of love.

Every space of love is the consciousness of the living God and this consciousness is your consciousness which is creation. There is no outside or inside to creation. You can't walk to creation or walk from creation. It is impossible to hide from creation or escape from creation because you are creation but it is possible to destroy creation by first destroying the creation of the space of love that is you James.

The consciousness of everything of creation is your consciousness and is your space of love. You are not separate from any of it but the brainwashing we all receive (fiction) has us believe that we are alone, separate and apart from creation (spaces of love). And while we worship fiction we are destroying the spaces of love that form creation because we have forgotten to fill them with our acts of love, thus we have forgotten to co-create with the living God. Because we are not filling them with acts of love (consciousness - information of creation of our creation), we are replacing the consciousness with unconsciousness which is destruction, creating dead, unconscious, non-living spaces without love as in the unconscious dead non-living bastard who abused and raped you.

With the consciousness sucked out of the space of love of your parents/carers, the darkness that became them invited in the darkness of others and with no community-immunity in place (consciousness) to protect you, you were the victim of their creation which was your creation because there was no separation between their creation and yours at the time.

This is what happened to you James when those around you did not protect you (love you), even though they were probably doing the best job they could under the circumstances. Your parents/carers consciousness or unconsciousness effected the space of love that was their dream. They were destroying the dream (the space of love) they created, if there was a space-of-love created in the first instance before consummation (act of creation)? Unfortunately most children these days are created without an intended space of love. Instead they are created by lust, loneliness, unhappiness, despair, fear, ignorance, arrogance, righteousness, insecurity, anger, rage, abuse, violence, revenge, jealousy, envy, fantasy, illusion, delusion etc etc. Can you imagine what it must be like for them to be created without a space-of-love? And what is involved to co-create a space of love to transform the dead unconscious non-living space without love which they were created out of ???

There is so much more to all of this but its best you buy and read all the brilliant Russian books called The Ringing Cedars: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/1125 - Anastasia has a better grasp on all these subjects than I presently have, though I am learning very fast.

Conscious Love Always
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
action @ loveforlife.com.au
www.loveforlife.com.au

The Economic nightmare that awaits all of us - From Col Adkins

8th October 2008

G'day Arthur, et al,

In general reply....

Arthur, Your heart is in the right place but some practicalities need to be led by the brain as well. (that is why we have one)

I wish you (and all believers) all the best with your kin-domain project, I hope you "wow the world".
My path is not of that tangent however.

Every single problem, every single concern besetting mankind this day and age is rooted in MONEY (more precisely a wholly corrupt and corrupted MONEY system)

It is the (putrid) glue sticking (gumming) up the works.

Until a problem is recognised it stands no chance of correction.

It is my intent the problem and its seat are recognised.

That recognition is in the process of being force fed to the sheeples.... we now shall see how mature the gag reflex is.

Regards
Col

To Sir Col of IsRootedInMoney from Isle of NoBastardsLiveHere

9th October 2008

Dear Sir Col of IsRootedInMoney from the Isle of NoBastardsLiveHere.......

Oh chivalrous glorious knight of truth and freedom for all, there on white horse full armour and regalia, lance in hand and sword by side, ready for battle with the dark knights from the isle of Tavistock... it needs to be pointed out that.......

ONE)... your statement "(and all believers)",.... as Fiona and I are part of your collective (or is that netted) "all", please comprehend that we are not "believers", that belief has nothing to do with creation of Kindoms because Kindoms is creation and we (MAN) have never left creation (Kindom) even though we may have forgotten creation or that we are part of creation. Do we need to believe in a tree for a tree to exist? Of course not, so why do we need to believe in Creation (Kindoms)? Do you need to believe in the seed of a tree to create a tree? Of course not, so why do we need to believe in the seeds of Kindoms (Creation) to create Kindoms?

The seeds already exist like all the seeds of creation already exist for without them there would be no creation to exist here and now!!!!

Creating Kindoms is all about undressing ourselves, stripping off all the clothing lent to us from the dark knights of Tavistock, attires that formed artificial personalities and characters that lent themselves to dramas enjoined with props of fiction, fashions of knowledge that buried who we really are underneath. Stripped naked we rejoined creation and all we see, hear, feel, touch, taste and smell are Kindoms of many Kindoms of many Kindoms of many Kindoms.

It's all there under your nose, Sir Col of IsRootedInMoney, but how can you see, hear, feel, touch, taste and smell Kindoms (Creation) while your still completely preoccupied, playing in a fairytale lent to you by the dark knights of Tavistock?

TWO).... MONEY is a symptom of the evil that is the artificial world of FICTION. MONEY is an idea (a prop) invented out-of-thin-air, a construct of thousands of constructs (props) invented out-of-thin-air, that are no more or less an evil than each other, and all together, they form the dark knights of Tavistock's Fiction-Fantasyland. Do you enjoy playing with such nasty evil props?

All con-structs are evil because they all destroy creation here and now and as you are part of creation you are also destroying the creation of the MAN that you really are while you play with such props of fiction. Going after MONEY is just like going after one nasty evil Gremlin but then what? While you are busy trying to kill one Gremlin there are thousands of other Gremlins running amok in your brain. What are you going to do about all of them? Would it not be better to kill/destroy the cause/source of all Gremlins so that there are no more Gremlins to contend with in your brain? How else are you truly going to be free in the real conscious-living world of creation, free to create and co-create creation with all of creation while you continue to give the Gremlins fictitious lives to run amok inside your brain's imagining?

As you can see, oh brave white knight from the isle of NoBastardsLiveHere, the real battle going on is the one going on between your ears and most definitely not the one you imagine going on outside of you. All that exists outside of you is creation. Nothing else exist regardless of what you pretend exists. The real bastards you are fighting are the bastards (Gremlins) running Amok in your brains imagining. You can kill all these nasty evil Gremlins with one fatal swoosh of your Excalibur but ooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhh the heavy price of entry you paid to play Tavistock's game................ is it just toooooooooooooo great a price to walk away from?????

Do you have the courage, oh brave white knight, to walk away from all the amusements (TEMPTATIONS) on offer from the dark knights of Tavistock who represent HELL???

Do you Sir Col of IsRootedInMoney from the Isle of NoBastardsLiveHere have the sincerity and purity of heart to admit that you are totally misguided about Money and that bastards (Gremlins) actually do live here between your ears and that you will never get rid of such plagues of Gremlins ("Every single problem, every single concern besetting mankind this day and age is rooted in MONEY (more precisely a wholly corrupt and corrupted MONEY system) It is the (putrid) glue sticking (gumming) up the works. Until a problem is recognised it stands no chance of correction.It is my intent the problem and its seat are recognised.That recognition is in the process of being force fed to the sheeples.... we now shall see how mature the gag reflex is.") until you stop causing harm to yourself, others and the rest of creation???

The bastards are within all of us while we continue to do harm and while we continue to do harm, we support the Gremlins. With millions of us supporting the Gremlins, it is no wonder that they are winning. The battle is not outside of each of us but between our ears. The great thing about this is that we all have the choice to support the Gremlins or support creation.

Are you fighting the right battle Sir Col of IsRootedInMoney from the Isle of NoBastardsLiveHere? because if you are not, you are feeding and spreading the plague of Gremlins which can only destroy creation.

Love
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

With Great Respect Arthur And Col - From Mike Maxwell

9th October 2008

With great respect Arthur and Col …

Nobody has ALL the answers for each opinion is from our perspective, his perspective… their perspective

There can be more than one truth but there are billions trillions and quadrillions of lie$ printed

We are different and unique yet similar and perhaps we will have much much greater common thoughts later

so choose carefully the path taken many traps and traitors have been used;

Lets not offend each other by making it personal and using names it will only offend and cause the weaker to split

And choose your words carefully with deliberation some pause and patience before splits occur…

Many have dropped off along the way only the most determined and fresh stay or newly join in..

Must we reply to every attack on our personal view shared ?

Is not it best to take two hits to both our red cheeks before standing up ?

We did not collapse the marketplace with greed because of a mortgage a credit card personal loan and car loan…

We are not responsible for the worlds currency being totally corrupted and printed beyond the value of our entire earth…

40 worlds were invented but only one real one existed…

We have not run down infrastructure and maintenance and essential services and spent our future to gamble against imaginary purchases and

Imaginary deriviative $1000 x Trillion Dollar trades that do not exist threatening the entire whole worlds assets…

We have not invented spies to watch spies who watch spies who tell everyone what to do what to pay what to prey and whats wrong is right and right is wrong…

Stand Up and be proud everything is still here…

If we walk outside and look around we are just as free… just as poor as we were yesterday …

We wont jump out of the Tower of Babel just because its falling…

We wont rush to prop it up…

Let it fall… renewal begins after collapse… what happens is beyond our control

When it falls don’t help rebuild it… don’t listen to its cries… too many have suffered its burden

Lets build each other up and be aware we are not broke….nor broken nor finished tomorrow begins today

Paper has lots of uses ….

As they print even more it becomes oversupplied …

The oversupply creates a lot of waste and huge stockpiles…

And less demand…

And less worth…

Until…. The inevitable happens

Collapse of the toilet paper industry

The only way to quickly balance supply and demand is;

A professor on ABC Lateline last night says by 2010 interest rates at rba will be 0%

Free money on its way ?

Without Prejudice

MM

Oh Really! Wow What A Bunch Of Horse Pucky!

9th October 2008

oh really! Wow what a bunch of horse pucky!!!!

Hey folks challenge this......

The whole system is based and supported upon a Christian monarch and the Bible .

Fact 1

Every commonwealth fictional debtor country has signed an accord that they will not discriminate against your sincerely held faith that is not hurting anyone

Fact 2.

The King James Bible that the Queen swore to defend is the basis of the courts power and whose first commandment says not to bow to or serve false gods.

Fact 3

The Queen took an oath in 1953 to defend it with all of her power

Fact 4

If you proclaim your faith based upon the Bible you can not lawfully be persecuted or discriminated against for holding fast to that faith

Fact 5

If you do not wish to submit to that system acting as a false god you only have to diligently and lawfully declare and inform those who may assume you are godless of your faith and beliefs of your sincerely held faith and why you cannot answer to altered versions of your name formed for a financial purpose without your consent, to gain immunity.

If they ignore your faith and beliefs and persecute you you have not been diligent in informing the private men and women wearing guns badges and black gowns...

Fact 7

Asking to see the law that allows them to discriminate against your faith and intimidate you (with witnesses watching) to violate it is an excellent idea.. Matthew 18:15-20 as the formula for doing all the above is infallible

Fact 8 and 9..

Folks who deny God and the Bible are easy pickings for the false Jew Talmudists but most on this list desperately wish to ignore the Talmud and it`s anti gentile writings as the enslaving document that runs the courts .

The Bible is the book that is used to gain confidence of the sheeple and offer authority to governments and courts as it makes Christians, via misinterpretation of Romans 13, submit ...but Talmud is the ruler.
Romans 16:17-20

Fact 10

Any disputers...Arthur? Can you make mincemeat of these facts??? anyone else??

Fact 6

Oh yes that Bible says in Deuteronomy 4:2 and 12:32 to not add to or take away from God`s law!!

What do false oathed lawyers judges and politicians do all day??

False gods!!!

Minister Belanger (Robin)

Thou Shalt Not Kill & What A Benevolent System That It Is?

25th October 2008

Thanx MB, I WILL REPLY IN UPPER CASE.........

Oh really! Wow what a bunch of horse pucky!!!!

Hey folks challenge this......

The whole system is based and supported upon a Christian monarch and the Bible .

AND WHAT A BENEVOLENT SYSTEM THAT IS, EH??? MILLIONS STARVING,SLAUGHTERED WORLDWIDE.

Fact 1

Every commonwealth fictional debtor country has signed an accord that they will not discriminate against your sincerely held faith that is not hurting anyone

Fact 2.

The King James Bible that the Queen swore to defend is the basis of the courts power and whose first commandment says not to bow to or serve false gods.

IS THIS THE SAME BIBLE THE VICTIMS IN OUR KANGAROO COURTS SWEAR TO, WHILE THEY ARE BEING RAILROADED INTO PRISON and POVERTY?

Fact 3

The Queen took an oath in 1953 to defend it with all of her power

Fact 4

AN OATH MEANS NOTHING, BUT ACTIONS MEAN EVERYTHING. WHAT ACTIONS ARE THE QUEEN DOING RIGHT NOW, AS THEY SIT IN THEIR PALACES, DIRECTING, AND ENGINEERING THEIR SATANIC AGENDA FOR THE PEONS?

If you proclaim your faith based upon the Bible you can not lawfully be persecuted or discriminated against for holding fast to that faith

Fact 5

If you do not wish to submit to that system acting as a false god you only have to diligently and lawfully declare and inform those who may assume you are godless of your faith and beliefs of your sincerely held faith and why you cannot answer to altered versions of your name formed for a financial purpose without your consent, to gain immunity.

SUBMIT IS THE KEY WORD HERE. WE HAVE BEEN SUBMITTING FOR AT LEAST 2,000 YEARS, AND LOOK WHERE WE ARE TODAY. I AGREE THO, THAT THE LEGAL FICTION PERPETRATED UPON US as "NUMBERS", NOT FLESH AND BLOOD MEN, IS CRIMINAL.

If they ignore your faith and beliefs and persecute you, you have not been diligent in informing the private men and women wearing guns badges and black gowns...

Fact 7

THIS OPPRESSION HAPPENS TO US ALL THE TIME WHETHER CRISTIAN OR NON-CHRISTIAN. IF IT PROTECTS YOU, THEN MORE POWER TO YOU.
Asking to see the law that allows them to discriminate against your faith and intimidate you (with witnesses watching) to violate it is an excellent idea.

I AGREE. HAVING WITNESSES IS THE KEY, B/C THESE SATANIC CROWS CANNOT STAND IN THE LIGHT OF SCRUTINY. COVERTNESS IS THEIR PROTECTION.

Matthew 18:15-20 as the formula for doing all the above is infallible

Fact 8 and 9..

Folks who deny God and the Bible are easy pickings for the false Jew Talmudists but most on this list desperately wish to ignore the Talmud and it`s anti gentile writings as the enslaving document that runs the courts .

THE ONLY POSITIVE, IN MY MIND, ABOUT CHRISTIANITY, IS THAT THERE MUST BE SOMETHING SACRED/GOOD THERE IF THE TALMUDIC JEWS HATE IT, AS THE ZIONIST JEWS HATE ANYTHING GOOD.

The Bible is the book that is used to gain confidence of the sheeple and offer authority to governments and courts as it makes Christians, via misinterpretation of Romans 13, submit ...but Talmud is the ruler.

Romans 16:17-20

Fact 10

Any disputers...Arthur? Can you make mincemeat of these facts??? anyone else??

Fact 6

SOME OF THESE FACTS HOLD WATER, BUT THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF CONTRADICTIONS IN THE BIBLE. ONE THAT COMES TO MIND IS,"THOU SHALT NOT KILL", YET THE MAJORITY OF CHRISTIANS EAT DEAD ANIMAL FLESH, BY THE BILLIONS, WHICH SUPPORTS THE TALMUDIC BLOOD RITUAL/SLAUGHTER WORLDWIDE. ARE YOU VEGETARIAN, MB?

Oh yes that Bible says in Deuteronomy 4:2 and 12:32 to not add to or take away from God`s law!!

What do false oathed lawyers judges and politicians do all day??

False gods!!!

YES, THEY OBVIOUSLY DO.

THE JUDGES, AND "LIE"YERS ARE IN THE HIGHER ECHELONS, COMMITED SATANISTS, OR ARE KNOWINGLY, "LOOKING THE OTHER WAY" AS THEY SUPPORT THIS CORRUPT, CRIMINAL"SYSTEM" WHICH BENEFITS THEM FINANCIALLY. MY 2 CENTS. THANK YOU.

Nick Kennedy

False Meaning Behind "Thou Shalt Have No Other Gods Before Me"

11th October 2008

Hi Robin
Below is a reply late this evening to another freedom group string involved in creating a new constitution, the contents of our reply suffice to make mincemeat of some of your arguments (points raised) as listed below. Apologies, I have been flat out on other fronts but intend on focusing on this string again over the weekend.
Love Arthur

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Thanks to everyone for keeping us in the loop of this new-constitution discussion.

A few brief points.

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me"

Is the creator a conscious-living real God? or an unconscious-non-living dead God?

If you all agree the creator is a living God then why are you offering up dead things of the dead God before the living God?

Let us explain.............

If you agree that God is a conscious-living God, then everything created by the living God is consciously-living as well, meaning that only what is consciously-living, bearing the living substance of the living God, fulfills the 1st commandment, thus anything dead offered up by the dead God goes against the 1st commandment (are abominations). Anything dead is fiction because it has no real conscious-living substance of the living God, because fictions can't create living substance of their own free-will to benefit living MAN and aid living-Gods-creation in rolling along here and now.

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me"

So why are you offering up dead things of the dead God like constitution before the living God??? Can the constitution walk or talk or create conscious-living substance to benefit conscious-living MAN and aid conscious-living creation in rolling along here and now? Can a constitution exist (appear to) without a 3rd party?

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me"

As God is a living God, this statement/commandment clearly reveals the true meaning of the words "No Other Gods", it means no impostors of the living God, no copies of the living God, NO FICTIONS (dead things) interceding between the real living God and all real creations of the living God, no dead-fictions pretending/claiming to Act on behalf of the living God (deceivers), with the real authority of the living God to govern those it claims it has authority over.

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me"

Has anyone amongst us been given the authority (permission) from the living God to act on behalf of the living God, to invent out-of-thin-air FICTIONS like constitution, to intercede between the living God and the creations of the living God (us), to govern us?

If so, can you please, immediately, bring forward, before all of us, who are your witness, the proof of your claim, as incontrovertible evidence (substance) to back up your claim, that you have been given the authority of the living God, to act on behalf of the living God, as its authorised representative.

This means that you have real living incontrovertible evidence which does not require a 3rd party for your evidence to exist nor does it require our belief for this evidence to exist either. Do we need to believe in a real tree for a tree to exist? Of course not! The tree exists regardless if we believe in the tree or not. The same applies with the substance (the incontrovertible evidence) of the living God.

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me"

The real evidence stands just as the real living God stands. The evidence exists (is imbued) with the living substance of the living God, with free-will to create the living substance of the living God.

What other evidence created by the living God could possibly exist to be incontrovertible?

Only what is imbued with the living substance of the living God is capable of entwining with the substance of the living God, thus for anything to intercede between the substance of the living God and the substance of the living MAN, must bear the living substance of the living God to fulfill the 1st commandment

If anyone is making a claim that the Bible is the living authority of the living God we will ask "Under Whose Authority Are You Making Such Claims? Please bring forward the incontrovertible................................................ (see above)........................

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me"

And since all forms of fiction (no matter what) are incapable of doing this (constitution, government, insurance, banking, money, fiat, commerce, democracy, rule of law/courts of law, statutes, private corporations, religions, priests, judges, politicians, banksters, numerics/mathematics/sacred geometry, alphabet languages, history and etc etc), it leaves only the substance that is the LIVING-CONSCIOUSNESS of living MAN capable of entwining with the LIVING-CONSCIOUSNESS (substance) of the living God.

"Thou shalt have no other gods (DEAD THINGS) before me (interceding)"

For something to be "before" there must be something created by the living God to be "after" therefore the words "before me" means INTERCEDING between the substance (creations) of the living God and the substance of the living God.

This means that CONSCIOUSNESS (love-spirit) is the substance of the living God and the First Commandment of the conscious-living God is clearly telling us that we (conscious-living MAN) must ONLY use our CONSCIOUSNESS (love-spirit) to co-create (entwine/intercede) between all the creations (substance) of the living God, including MAN, and the substance of the living God.

Why, because the substance/consciousness (love-spirit) of the living God provides us with absolutely everything we could possibly need. What more do we want than Gods Love? unless you/we want to rebel against creating life with the love of the living God, preferring to destroy the living substance of creation and use these dead things (fictions) not imbued with the love (substance-consciousness) of the living God, to continue destroying real-life (creation).

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me"

The First Commandment is clearly telling all of us that "Thou shalt not have any thing of the dead God before the living God" means "DO NOT WORSHIP (BELIEVE IN) DEAD THINGS (FICTIONS - FALSE IDOLS) as in constitution, government, insurance, banking, money, fiat, commerce, democracy, rule of law/courts of law, statutes, private corporations etc etc otherwise we are severing our links with the substance of the living God by allowing dead things to intercede between the living God and us (Living Man), thus we have broken the first commandment, thus we are destroying the substance of creation, starting with the substance of us.

We are destroyed and destroying.

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We were asked yesterday "Do you believe that the bible is the inspired word of God? (in part? - all? - not at all?). A short response, please."

We replied by saying "In Part......... The Bible contains lots of Sophistry, its truths used to suck the believers into accepting the lies. Just look for the substance in every phrase. If it isn't there, it isn't true. Do you comprehend the clearly defined distinction between the information that is creation and the knowledge that is fiction? If you do then you have parted the Red Sea and can clearly see what is truths and what is lies."

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See if any of you can unravel all the true meanings (substance) of the Ten Commandments - for some clues please read this reply from yesterday: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5581#comment-795

1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me;
2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them
3. Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain
4. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy
5. Honour thy father and thy mother
6. Thou shalt not kill
7. Thou shalt not commit adultery
8. Thou shalt not steal
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour
10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's

For those who want to fully comprehend the distinction between the information that is creation and the knowledge that is fiction, please read these documents listed below. Note: These documents are presented in the order we recommend you read them and we suggest that you read them slowly, taking the time to fully comprehend what you are reading. There is some intentional repetition in this work to assist the true awakening to consciousness (no offense intended). These docs are each receiving tens of thousands of unique strikes per week in the Love For Life Website..

It seems news of our heartfelt insightful work is spreading very very fast around the globe. Over the past 12 months the strikes to the website went from a dribble to almost 1.3 million per month, around 7000 pages or 38,000 files are being looked at or opened daily. See full graphic statistics by going to the Love For Life home page here: http://loveforlife.com.au and scrolling down to find them. If the traffic continues increasing at its current speed, the strikes will hit 2 million per month within a few months.

Summary Of The New Booklet Life is for the Living – The True Steps of Freedom By Arthur and Fiona Cristian 19th May 2008: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/4651

What Are We Waiting For? By Fiona And Arthur Cristian 25th July 2008: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5147

THE WAY by Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 9th August 2008: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5231

Recognising The Distinction Between Information That Is CREATION & Knowledge That Is FICTION Is Critical To Reclaiming Freedom by Arthur Cristian 13th July 2008: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5079

WHAT'S YOUR INTENT? - Escapees From The Western World "Civilisation" by Arthur & Fiona Cristian 18th September 2008: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5542

THE DECEPTION OF CAESAR by Arthur & Fiona Cristian 28th September 2008: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5581

The Way Out by Fiona Cristian 30th July 2008 - Taken From Fiona Cristian Email Replies: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5203

Prelude To Our Next Article "The Substance Of Creation & Conscious-Living DNA" By Arthur & Fiona Cristian - To Be Posted Shortly 12th September 2008: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5505

Then you can pick and choose others from here if you want to: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 and: http://loveforlife.com.au/arthur_cristian
Conscious Love Always
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
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www.loveforlife.com.au

I can see no mincemeat Arthur as you did not address my facts

11th October 2008

I can see no mincemeat Arthur as you did not address my facts....

Main fact is their own laws say they cannot tell you what to put faith in...

You want to run in the nude..they cannot stop you unless you harm or offend someone..

In Ontario it was declared in court the female breast or not to be considered as obscene..case dismissed..This after women raised their shirts to the judge and asked him if what he saw was obscene..obviously he had no choice as what he saw were young perky breasts...

I am saying that the Jews run the worlds finances with Talmud a religious law...They control things Arthur...You can exercise faith to step out of that....Now how did you make mincemeat of that??

The whole system is based and supported upon a Christian monarch and the Bible .

yes I know God is all and I need no book to tell me that.. I am merely pointing out in infallible form that book and your exercised faith is there only weak spot.

Fact 1

Every commonwealth fictional debtor country has signed an accord that they will not discriminate against your sincerely held faith that is not hurting anyone

Fact 2.

The King James Bible that the Queen swore to defend is the basis of the courts power and whose first commandment says not to bow to or serve false gods.

Fact 3

The Queen took an oath in 1953 to defend it with all of her power

Fact 4

If you proclaim your faith based upon the Bible you can not lawfully be persecuted or discriminated against for holding fast to that faith

Fact 5

If you do not wish to submit to that system acting as a false god you only have to diligently and lawfully declare and inform those who may assume you are godless of your faith and beliefs of your sincerely held faith and why you cannot answer to altered versions of your name formed for a financial purpose without your consent, to gain immunity.

If they ignore your faith and beliefs and persecute you you have not been diligent in informing the private men and women wearing guns badges and black gowns...

Fact 7

Asking to see the law that allows them to discriminate against your faith and intimidate you (with witnesses watching) to violate it is an excellent idea.. Matthew 18:15-20 as the formula for doing all the above is infallible

Fact 8 and 9..

Folks who deny God and the Bible are easy pickings for the false Jew Talmudists but most on this list desperately wish to ignore the Talmud and it`s anti gentile writings as the enslaving document that runs the courts .

The Bible is the book that is used to gain confidence of the sheeple and offer authority to governments and courts as it makes Christians, via misinterpretation of Romans 13, submit ...but Talmud is the ruler.

Romans 16:17-20

Robin

Reply To Mike Maxwell Re: With Great Respect Arthur And Col

9th October 2008

Hi Mike
Traditionally Col and I enjoy playing with words, using a sense of humor to get our points across but at no time do we ever take what we say between us personally because neither of us have axes to grind. There is a very strong mutual respect for each other and we are good mates and we prod each other along. Regardless of our differences of opinion we have always maintained a strong healthy dialog between us because we live the same dream of truth and true freedom for all which also means that we do not have a back-door to our friendship that could allow us to enter dark, secret spaces where we quietly back-stab and undermine each others character.

Also, the truth is the truth and wherever the truth is, is where we want to be. All truth can be backed up with substance (incontrovertible evidence), does not require 3rd parties to exist and does not require our belief for truth to exist either.

For those who resist the truth, the process is painful, as they hang onto their demons to avoid the changes we must all make if we are to save ourselves and the planet. We are always ready to go where the truth is which is why we will always question and probe as we look for the answers. If you are speaking the truth, we will accept it, but we will ask you to back it up with incontrovertible evidence. If you can't, we continue on the path we are on because we have yet to come across anything else that offers a better remedy. In fact, Kindoms and community life are the only real remedy we have come across! Everything else is still in the fiction.

Until you (or anyone else) can prove that this remedy is not the truth, we will continue to create it.

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And what you stated , "A professor on Lateline last night says by 2010 interest rates at rba will be 0% - Free money on its way?

Yes, this is true, be it 2010 or 2011 or 2012 .....

Why???

Because everyone will have been microchipped to accept the one-world interest free currency/economy/government/law/education/religion etc.

----- Problem ------ Reaction ------ Solution ------

Classic Hegelian Dialectics At Play Here

I have been saying/warning all about this circumstance for years.....

The establishment is building up all the economic, social, political, spiritual, cultural and environmental disasters imaginable, to force all citizens of every nation to their knees...... allowing the establishment Anti-Christ to offer the GRAND-PLANED REMEDY, A remedy of many remedies, one of them being interest free money via the injection of a cashless global economy microchip.

This is what the end game is all about but boy oh boy what a very very heavy, heavy price it will be to pay forever for anyone (and their loved ones) who accept the chip. The establishment will come up smelling like roses as the really good guys in the midst of all this engineered chaos.

Amongst the NWO fanfare will be thousands of imaginary UFO's and Alien's invading Earth using Reagan Star War Laser Satellites, 3d Hologram Projections, Chemtrails, HAARP Frequencies etc etc backed up by man-made ufo crafts and genetically manufactured aliens.

What a great Hollywood type spectacular this will all be as predicted by their (The Establishment Of Fallen MANS True Freemasonry) self fulfilling prophecies (they wrote all the his-story - no one else did) and with billions educated/trained/brainwashed into believing in all this crap (Gremlins) they are creating exactly what they are focusing on.

"We Create (project) What We Focus On".

Absolute brilliant Tavistock mind-control at play here.

We are the creators of everything that happens to us.

So much for providing everyone with idiot-friendly full-disclosure during child-hood/teenage-hood/adult-hood!!!!

Do you mind if we do this Gremlin crap to you? Look its only a game. We just want you to focus all your waking time on FICTION (Gremlins). It ain't real but but but but but there is a greater than less chance that you will get hurt.

Conscious Love Always
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

Reply From Jack Harper Re: To Sir Col of IsRootedInMoney

9th October 2008

HAHAHAHAHAHA.......HAHAHAHA!

Arthur.....your a card!!

A real honest to God joker!

BOOOO!!

It's just, Jack

There is nothing wrong with community that shares its resources

10th October 2008

There is nothing wrong with the community that shares its resources… however you need like minded

People to join in, perhaps a way to control your independence is community title you could buy a large

Property and subject to Council Consent get a legal subdivision and have a common area for a hall shop etc

Many people can work collectively until disagreements come up…

In the interim we have need to be in both worlds using both money and community sharing buying selling

trading etc…

Around Nimbin Byron Shire people have been ironing out this problem for 40 years… and they are not all

Happy…

Thanks

Mike

They Have A False Oath ... Call Them On It! Reply From Robin

6th October 2008

Sure is a lot of words void of ... They have a false oath ... call them on it!!

Why is something so simple so avoided by all?

Minister Belanger (Robin)

Re: They Have A False Oath - Reply From Arthur & Fiona Cristian

6th October 2008

Robin
Please explain in a very simple step by step format/detail, from start to beginning (including a full overview/explanation) the who what, where, when, how, why, so that anyone can fully comprehend this False Oath remedy and know exactly how to apply it.

eg, How do they use it when they receive a letter in the mail from the State debt recovery Office and you have 14 days to reply or else a Sheriff comes knocking on your door to take hundreds of dollars of your property to cover the charge. What words do you use in drafting a letter of reply, how do you serve it on them, registered or not, who do you serve it on, what terms or conditions are attached in your reply etc etc.

Most sheeple have no idea about all this, are finding it very difficult to comprehend (due to their long-term brainwashing program) to be able to apply remedies like yours because it all sounds so much like martian talk or gobbledygook etc. What you send will be posted to the Love For Life Website.

Even Fiona and I are still finding it hard to get our heads around some of the freedom-truth remedies floating around and it takes a long-time to get it, keeping in mind that we are both very very busy with children, phone calls, emails, internet, people coming and going etc etc = being flat out every day, day after day as well as our heads being focused all the time on our own interests/remedies etc etc, hence the Love For Life Website and putting up everyone else's info so that we know that no ones info has been left out.

We want to accommodate all successful remedies that have defeated the State, the wolves at the door etc etc. So please send us in full detail your info and a few success stories and explain why it worked etc etc and we will post all the info.

Love & Hugs
Arthur

Re: They Have A False Oath - Reply From Minister Belanger

6th October 2008

Knocking out the assumptions of your adversary is easy if you are firm in your faith..

Once you have the false oath in your hands you challenge them by getting them to agree it is false...

Diligence is getting the assumptions removed before your in the manure...

Why is it folks get motivated when they are up to their eyeballs in shit??? .. lol

sure make sence to prepare the way before the inevitable happens..

Exercise your faith loud and proud and diligently to those who need to hear...

Simple once you know you cannot communicate to dead corporate entities...

I will put more together for you soon...

Blessings upon the heartbeat of the mothers....

Robin

They Just Scare The Herd... BOOOOOOOOO from Mike Maxwell

6th October 2008

They just scare the herd... BOOOOOOOOO

FEAR creates panic... panic causes rush towards the direction away from the fear...

WE have nothing to fear but fear itself...

WE should be getting mad so we can get even...

GETTING MAD, not bad, means what ?

REFUSING to support the parasites in anyway possible, a denial of ALL support starting with YOUR signature, remove it from the roll, remove it from giving them your POWER and AUTHORITY to do so in YOUR name;

REFUSE assistance babies need help, man needs himself his family and his brothers, he will not see any go missing... without a fight in self defence in defense of HIM and his and his neighbour in peace...

REFUSE representation in any legal matter any support financial or otherwise continues the parasites and results in a further aiding and abbeting such traitors of MAN and can only result in awakening you and others who follow...

UNFORTUNATELY, we have sheep in wolves clothing as well as wolves in sheeps clothing...

THEIR PURPOSE IS TO SCARE THE HERD AND PICK OFF THE WEAK AND ISOLATED

DEBATING the enemy or engaging in buy elections or elections only promotes the same filth to the top, WALK right away ex-communicate them...

MANY, unwittingly are unaware they are herding the flock towards the wolves...

IF, we rush at the bank deposit box we create the disaster we were in FEAR of...

SHOP WITH PRIVATE MEN... AS DIRECT TO THE SOURCE AS YOU CAN... AWAY FROM PTY LTD

CREATE A FARMERS MARKET BY......BUY-ING FROM HIM WITH CASH AND OR TRADING SOMETHING YOUR LABOUR OR YOUR SERVICES...TALK TO HIM...

GROW A CROP OF VEGETABLES

PLANT A FRUIT TREE

KEEP CHICKENS... OR FATTEN A CALF, A PIGLET OR A LAMB...

SAVE YOUR SEEDS

GIVE THEM TO OTHERS...SHARE A MEAL OR SOMETHING YOU MADE OR DID YOURSELF...

QUESTION EVERYTHING AND IF DOESNT LOVE YOU OR IT AINT NATURAL SPIT IT OUT...

IF, we accept the truth that everything we are being told by the self imagined Authorities is designed to enrich others at our expense we would simply become self represented...

Being your self and wholly responsible for your actions and refusing to be herded this way and that is completely natural and the first awakening of standing up for yourself and what is good what it REALLY means to be a MAN;

FORMERLY, you me we were asleep and as you awoke from your slumber you said I am in pain because I have lost control of ME and MINE and see only theft crime and abuse of ME and MINE, and I am going to change, YOU are going to change, WE are going to CHANGE, we are THE HERD, and were not moving the way THE servants and PTY LTD parties and parts and partners want us to move...

WE the HERD have always been HERDED towards war tax poison votes forms census lies recession depression illness fear and false flags...

WE the HERD must leave BABYLON and let it never be inhabited EVER again... and the only way to leave BABYLON is to first KNOW who it is;

BABYLON has many features;

IT appears beautiful like the wonder of the entire WORLD;

IT appears like a LAMB but has teeth of a WOLF;

IT appears to tell TRUTH with its lips but its HANDS are coated in BLOOD;

IT appears to love its OWN but HATES it with sick passion;

IT appears to be a follower of CHRIST but is pure EVIL;

IT appears to be DEMOCRATIC but is DEMONIC;

IT APPEARS THAT IT OWNS AND CONTROLS THE ENTIRE WORLD..

ITS FINANCE IS ITS KEY TO EVERYTHING;

IT says IN GOD WE TRUST, but it dare not mention what GOD they worship it prmotes a PYRAMID scheme were more slaves are required on the backs of slightly less slaves and so on and its been fooling YOU all the way to EGYPT ALL THE WAY TO BUILD ITS DEATH MAUSELEUMS AND;

MUSEUMS AND IDOLS AND IMAGES AND POISON POTIONS AND;

DEAD PTY LTD INSOLVENT FICTIONS;

YOU GAVE UP YOUR HARD LABOUR NOT FOR GOLD;

BUT PAPER

A FOOL AND HIS GOLD IS EASILY DEPARTED

A FOOLS FOOL THINKS PAPER IS WORTH MORE THAN FOOLS GOLD;

A FOOLS FOOL THINKS BAGS OF SAND MARKED 'GOLD' IN THE DERIVIATIVE BULL PIT CASINO IS GOLD AND HE MUST BE COMPENSATED...

PAY THEM BACK WITH SAND, THEY BROUGHT NOTHING VALUABLE TO THE TABLE LET THEM LEAVE THE SAME WAY...

THE MONEY DID NOT HAVE ANY BACKING... NOR DID THEY HAVE THE MONEY IN HAND THEY GAMBLED AT RISK TO THEMSELVES...AND THE NATIONS OF BROTHERS WILL NOT PAY FOR FRAUD...

LOCK EM UP IN THE 'CORRECTIVE INSTITUTIONS' reeducate them in the 'mental institutions' make them eat their paper until they beg for nourishment and substance real food real labour with their hands...

WE ARE NOT BROKE NOR BROKEN;

LOOK all the fencings been done, all the roads and tracks laid, all the buildings are up, all the farms are stocked, all the problems are artificial be happy you have what you need and if you learn to share you will never go without...

WHO hates its brothers more than its enemies, it is more scared of its brothers than the entire enemy... because it is confusing its brothers in so much chaos, in so much war and vile entertainment and poison to keep it pointed anyway anywhere anytime away from ITSELF...

TIMEOUT... OUT OF TIME... WALK AWAY THE GAME IS RIGGED... LET THEM PLAY WITHOUT US... WE CAN START A NEW GAME ANYTIME WE CHOOSE...WHEN WE WALK AWAY THEY LOSE...

PEACE AND LOVE
MM
WITHOUT PREJUDICE
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
VERSION DATED 6TH OCTOBER 2008 IN THE YEAR OF THE KING

Reply To Mike Maxwell From Jack Harper, They Just Scare The Herd

6th October 2008

Mike wrote,
["LOCK EM UP IN THE 'CORRECTIVE INSTITUTIONS' reeducate them in the 'mental institutions' make them eat their paper until they beg for nourishment and substance real food real labour with their hands...

WE ARE NOT BROKE NOR BROKEN;"]

Okay Mike, so we set up our own court.

And convict them.

Do you got a certain spot to send them?

I mean, sooner or later we got to let them out......."then what?"

What if 15% are "hard core" and refuse to repent?

These are questions within matters concerning......"The Law"

Jack

p.s.
I think Newfoundland has a deal on seal blubber.
That should tide them over till they can grow their own food.

"FATHER FORGIVE THEM FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO"

6th October 2008

Vladimir Megre & Anastasia offer a fantastic "REMEDY" to this dilemma by re-educating those responsible for the harm they are doing.

We must not forget that everyone being targeted as the culprits behind this NWO were once children, children that came from the same stock as all other children like you and I. They are all just running the program of fiction they were all programmed to believe in since childhood that has them doing harm to MAN, Nature and Earth.

"FATHER FORGIVE THEM FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO"!

They need a new Love For Life program, like we all do who are still trapped in serving/worshipping the fiction.

Read this fantastic chapter out of book 7 of The Ringing Cedars series here: THE ENERGY OF LIFE by Vladimir Megré - Book 7 of The Ringing Cedars Series - Chapter 26: “A Security Zone of The future": http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/1814

Only love can fix all our problems so here is how we re-educate the lost shepherds who lead the lost sheeple.

Also, banks do no not exist, and neither does money, insurance, governments, rules of law/courts of law, private corporations, stock market, media, religions and every other course and career on offer in establishment universities and every abomination derived from them. They are all phantom props in a fairytale of illusion and delusion. Everything about the fiction is destroyed creation caused by men, women and children who are destroyed creation as well.

All that exists is creation. Nothing else exists no matter how much time and effort one puts in to destroying creation to prove that the fairytales they believe in, and force others to believe in, are true (real).

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

Love Is Not Passive Its Passionate - Reply From Mike Maxwell

6th October 2008

Arthur, dear dear Arthur LOVE is not passive its passionate, LOVE is taking a few hits before you hit back, LOVE ain't watching and doing NOTHING

Love caused the Shepherd boy to Kill a LION

Love caused a man to throw the Bankers OUT

Our Father will not forgive those who KNOW what they do...and who continued without ANY remorse or Repentance without ANY restitution... the blood drips out of their mouths, its stained their clothes, its on their hands permanently and cannot be washed OFF...

He said woe to the lawyer/banker scribes and priest taxing adulterous Pharisees... they would not be permitted entry into his Kingdom... weeping and gnashing their teeth...

Because they KNOW exactly what they do...

Better for them they had never been born...

They KNOW they really do KNOW and yet they lead the sheep in circles away from life, love, the truth and restoration they have NO guts to take evil lies and wickedness ON... They KNOW yet they are and have benefited with MONEY and POWER for THEIR unfaithfulness and Sins this is their reward... eat it up BLOOD suck it up, drink eat EAT you fat gluttons look at YOUR hands KNOW the blood of even just ONE little ONE is sacred yet YOU are responsible...

Even IF they were marginally rehabilitatable and IF given a chance and forgiveness NEVER could they or THEIRS be TRUSTED again...

Here see what ridicule and contempt for their trade of EVIL has resulted in...

The Mercedes and Gold and Diamonds the Riches of the world only Identifies them the 6 cars and 12 bedrooms and Memberships they can no longer hide... they smell like blood money... they look like blood money... nothing can make them normal... they cant sleep without booze and pills... the nightmares ...the nightmares are becoming real...

Without Prejudice
MM
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Starve those greedy people
David James
October 6, 2008
The Age

BANKERS and financiers are, apparently, starved for capital. I have a solution. Starve them of food instead.

Eventually they will all go away, and leave us normal people to get on with our normal lives doing normal things in normal occupations.

Failing that, we should starve them of oxygen. It will cut down on global warming and we can always clean up the mess later. Here are some words that have made a bit of a mess of lately.

ACCC
It has given the BHP Billiton and Rio Tinto, and Westpac and St George mergers the brightest green light possible, so we can rename it the Australian Collusion and Cartel Commission.

Correction
When traders make a mistake, the market has to correct them and give the naughty perpetrators detention after closing time.

Troubled asset relief program
The official title for the bail-out of the US financial system. It is also a secret code meaning: "Run for the hills. Don't take anything with you, just run. Now." I suggest you heed this warning.

Moral compass
An object that finance traders try to swallow during drunken orgies. Unfortunately moral compasses usually prove hard to digest so they are auctioned on eBay instead.

Subprime lenders
Modern-day Robin Hoods who stole from the poor to give to the rich, only to find that the poor had no money. Go figure. Wall Street

Well might US politicians say "God bless America" — nobody else will.

David James is a senior writer for BRW magazine and author of The Business Devil's Dictionary.

Re: Love Is Not Passive Its Passionate - Reply From Arthur

6th October 2008

Mike, when you read this chapter THE ENERGY OF LIFE by Vladimir Megré - Book 7 of The Ringing Cedars Series - Chapter 26: “A Security Zone of The future": http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/1814 you will comprehend what I was intending as a remedy. Love is the substance of the living God created by our acts of love. Without the substance (love) we are as nothing (dead/destroyed). Only Love (substance) can reclaim all those lost to love (without substance of the living God), the rest will destroy themselves and be no more.

Nowhere did I say that Love was passive. Instead I am saying that the remedy that heals all those who can and want to be healed (rescued from the fiction) is with Love, for without Love, there ain't no remedy on offer from any of us but more of the same punishment, violence, anger, hatred, vengeance, separation, greed, selfishness, righteousness, power and control trips, secrets, lies, etc, that they create today. You can't have a war to stop a war. How can we make a difference without Love Mike?

Without Love we continue to perpetuate the evil that is fiction which destroys creation, which we are. There is no love (substance) in government or banks or money or rule of law/courts of law or religions or constitution or democracy or capitalism or politics or economy or commerce etc etc so why do we imagine they have anything of substance to offer? Accepting them is accepting the perpetuation of the chaos which we now experience. Are you recommending masochism as the remedy Mike ?

RESISTANCE IS FUTILE

In the end, creation always wins. You may choose to return to creation while your physical body is still alive or, even if you die with your head in the fiction, your body will still end up assimilating with creation. Those of the establishment, the Freemasons and all the lackeys that support them (their physical bodies) will return to creation as their world collapses, again, either through their death or their choice to live a different way.

If they have not returned to creation (acts of love) before their death in their physical body, their link to consciousness (substance of creation) remains severed (obsolete) and, bodies gone, they have nothing of substance to create acts of consciousness (substance) with.

The tool of creation (substance) is the living-body of MAN. Lose (forsake - ignore - reject - deny - rebel against) the tool of creation and we lose our GOD-GIVEN ability to create substance and without substance "Its All Over", You have lost your ability to create life (your unique conscious-living life) and participate as a conscious-living-willing co-creator of creation.

To be part of consciousness (substance) we must be creating consciousness (substance); if we have not been creating consciousness at the time of the shift of our physical body (maintaining our links with creation), how can we rejoin creation?

If you fill a child's body with poison, killing the child, it can no longer be part of your family. If you fill your body with fiction, it can no longer be part of the family of creation.

WHAT ARE YOU PROJECTING?

We experience what we project because we are not separate from creation. We cannot escape what we create. When we paint a wall, we see it there before us. When we make a salad, there it is. The Universe is our creation just as the salad is our creation. We are not at the mercy of the patterns of the stars and the planets, rather it is them that are influenced by us (MAN). When two people love each other, they each create the love (substance) that forms their relationship (the substance of their relationship). If one of them stops creating love for the other, the relationship will fade away and die. The love (substance) MAN creates for creation is what keeps creation rolling along; if MAN stopped creating life through loving life, the sun, which is the reflection (substance) of our love, would fade away.

The problem the freedom/truth movement has is that almost everyone is focusing on fiction (things) instead of substance which means they are not focusing on love. Hence the bickering, dissension, back stabbing, arrogance and righteousness that keeps everyone separate instead of united. Remember; what you focus on is what you create. Have a look at the comments posted here: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5367#comments and here: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5542#comments to see how much time is focused on things.

Where is the substance here and now?

Who is creating the substance of creation, here and now while we argue over the "prime creator" or "Jesus" or the Bible or Honour Dishonour or trial by jury? What are any of us doing for creation to keep creation rolling along while we argue about these things?

If relationships can't survive without the substance, how can anything else?

Without substance, we are left with "things" that can only destroy us as is reflected in the chaos of our attitudes and behaviour that are without love.

We are being destroyed and destroying.

It is the same with our destruction; we create it and we experience it so, if we create enough destruction to attract Nibiru (Planet X), we surely will experience it! (Please read "THE WAY" http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5231 and "What Are We Waiting For" http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5147 for more information about Nibiru and how fallen hu-mans created it).

Cut & pasted from here: THE DECEPTION OF CAESAR by Arthur & Fiona Cristian 28th September 2008: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5581

Conscious Love Always
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

200 Years Ago Aristotle Said - From Jack Harper

7th October 2008

2000 years ago, Aristotle said:

"money,
being in itself naturally barren,
it is PREPOSTEROUS
to make it breed more money..."

if anyone doubts whether the central banks of the world are PRIVATELY owned and/or controlled, just ask a very simple question: "to whom is the interest on the national debts paid?"

Jack Harper

UP YOU GET SLEEPING BEAUTY - Reply From Mike To Jack Harper

6th October 2008

cancer is a disease some say a fungus

whatever is parasite left

after treatment

if they cannot exist without harm to self or others

because they cannot share

cannot contribute

cannot be cured

then its a risk to the whole body

it must be excised

permanently quarantined and rejected from contact

outside they shall weep and gnash their teeth

MM
Without Prejudice

Examples Of Hyperinflation - Sent By Mike Maxwell

6th October 2008

From Mike Maxwell

Confederate Currency - Hyperventilation - Hyperinflation - The highest denomination in mid-1946 was 100,000,000,000,000,000,000 pengő. The rate of inflation was 4.19 quintillion (4.19 x 1018) percent

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Examples of hyperinflation

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Angola

Angola went through its worst inflation from 1991 to 1995. In early 1991, the highest denomination was 50,000 kwanzas. By 1994, it was 500,000 kwanzas. In the 1995 currency reform, 1 kwanza reajustado was exchanged for 1,000 kwanzas. The highest denomination in 1995 was 5,000,000 kwanzas reajustados. In the 1999 currency reform, 1 new kwanza was exchanged for 1,000,000 kwanzas reajustados. The overall impact of hyperinflation: 1 new kwanza = 1,000,000,000 pre 1991 kwanzas.

Argentina

Argentina went through steady inflation from 1975 to 1991. At the beginning of 1975, the highest denomination was 1,000 pesos. In late 1976, the highest denomination was 5,000 pesos. In early 1979, the highest denomination was 10,000 pesos. By the end of 1981, the highest denomination was 1,000,000 pesos. In the 1983 currency reform, 1 Peso argentino was exchanged for 10,000 pesos. In the 1985 currency reform, 1 austral was exchanged for 1,000 pesos argentino. In the 1992 currency reform, 1 new peso was exchanged for 10,000 australes. The overall impact of hyperinflation: 1 (1992) peso = 100,000,000,000 pre-1983 pesos.

Austria

Between 1921 and 1922, inflation in Austria reached 134%.

Belarus

Belarus went through steady inflation from 1994 to 2002. In 1993, the highest denomination was 5,000 rublei. By 1999, it was 5,000,000 rublei. In the 2000 currency reform, the ruble was replaced by the new ruble at an exchange rate of 1 new ruble = 1,000 old rublei. The highest denomination in 2002 was 50,000 rublei, equal to 50,000,000 pre-2000 rublei.

Bolivia

Bolivia went through its worst inflation between 1984 and 1986. Before 1984, the highest denomination was 1,000 pesos bolivianos. By 1985, the highest denomination was 10 Million pesos bolivianos. In 1985, a Bolivian note for 1 million pesos was worth 55 cents in US dollars, one-thousandth of its exchange value of $5,000 less than three years previously.[9] In the 1987 currency reform, the Peso Boliviano was replaced by the Boliviano at a rate of 1,000,000 : 1.

Bosnia-Herzegovina

Bosnia-Hezegovina went through its worst inflation in 1993. In 1992, the highest denomination was 1,000 dinara. By 1993, the highest denomination was 100,000,000 dinara. In the Republika Srpska, the highest denomination was 10,000 dinara in 1992 and 10,000,000,000 dinara in 1993. 50,000,000,000 dinara notes were also printed in 1993 but never issued.

Brazil

From 1986 to 1994, the base currency unit was shifted three times to adjust for inflation in the final years of the Brazilian military dictatorship era. A 1960s cruzeiro was, in 1994, worth less than one trillionth of a US cent, after adjusting for multiple devaluations and note changes. A new currency called real was adopted in 1994, and hyperinflation was eventually brought under control. The real was also the currency in use until 1942; 1 (current) real is the equivalent of 2,750,000,000,000,000,000 of those old reals (called réis in Portuguese).[10]

Chile

Beginning in 1971, during the presidency of Salvador Allende, Chilean inflation began to rise and reached peaks of 1,200% in 1973. As a result of the hyperinflation, food became scarce and overpriced. A 1973 coup d'état deposed Allende and installed a military government led by Augusto Pinochet. Pinochet's free-market economic policy ended the inflation and except for an economic depression in 1981 the economy has recovered.

China

As the first user of fiat currency, China has had an early history of troubles caused by hyperinflation. The Yuan Dynasty printed huge amounts of fiat paper money to fund their wars, and the resulting hyperinflation, coupled with other factors, led to its demise at the hands of a revolution. The Republic of China went through the worst inflation 1948-49. In 1947, the highest denomination was 50,000 yuan. By mid-1948, the highest denomination was 180,000,000 yuan. The 1948 currency reform replaced the yuan by the gold yuan at an exchange rate of 1 gold yuan = 3,000,000 yuan. In less than 1 year, the highest denomination was 10,000,000 gold yuan. The highest denomination by a regional bank was 6,000,000,000 yuan issued by XinJiang Provincial Bank in 1949. After the renminbi was instituted by the new communist government, hyperinflation ceased with a revaluation of 1:10,000 in 1955.

Free City of Danzig

Danzig went through its worst inflation in 1923. In 1922, the highest denomination was 1,000 Mark. By 1923, the highest denomination was 10,000,000,000 Mark.

Georgia

Georgia went through its worst inflation in 1994. In 1993, the highest denomination was 100,000 coupons [kuponi]. By 1994, the highest denomination was 1,000,000 coupons. In the 1995 currency reform, a new currency lari was introduced with 1 lari exchanged for 1,000,000 coupons.

Germany

Inflation in the Weimar Republic

Germany went through its worst inflation in 1923. In 1922, the highest denomination was 50,000 Mark. By 1923, the highest denomination was 100,000,000,000,000 Mark. In December 1923 the exchange rate was 4,200,000,000,000 Marks to 1 US dollar.[11] In 1923, the rate of inflation hit 3.25 × 106 percent per month (prices double every two days). Beginning on November 20, 1923, 1,000,000,000,000 old Marks were exchanged for 1 Rentenmark[11] so that 4.2 Rentenmarks were worth 1 US dollar, exactly the same rate the Mark had in 1914.

Greece

Greece went through its worst inflation in 1944. In 1943, the highest denomination was 25,000 drachmai. By 1944, the highest denomination was 100,000,000,000,000 drachmai.

In the 1944 currency reform, 1 new drachma was exchanged for 50,000,000,000 drachmai. Another currency reform in 1953 replaced the drachma at an exchange rate of 1 new drachma = 1,000 old drachma. The overall impact of hyperinflation: 1 (1953) drachma = 50,000,000,000,000 pre 1944 drachmai. The Greek inflation rate reached 8.5 billion percent per month (prices double every 28 hours).

Hungary

Hungary went through the worst inflation ever between the end of 1945 and July of 1946. In 1944, the highest denomination was 1,000 pengő. By the end of 1945, it was 10,000,000 pengő. The highest denomination in mid-1946 was 100,000,000,000,000,000,000 pengő. The rate of inflation was 4.19 quintillion (4.19 x 1018) percent. A special currency the adópengő - or tax pengő - was created for tax and postal payments [1]. The value of the adópengő was adjusted each day, by radio announcement. On January 1, 1946 one adópengő equaled one pengő. By late July, one adópengő equaled 2,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 or 2×1021pengő. When the pengo was replaced in August 1946 by the forint, the total value of all Hungarian banknotes in circulation amounted to one-thousandth of one US dollar. [12] It is the most severe known incident of inflation recorded, peaking at 4.19 × 1016 percent per month (prices double every 15 hours). The overall impact of hyperinflation: On the 1st of August, 1946 400,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 or 4×1029 (four hundred octillion [ short scale ] ) pengő became 1 forint.

One source [2] states that this hyperinflation was purposely started by trained Russian Marxists in order to destroy the Hungarian middle and upper classes. The 1946 currency reform changed the currency to forint. Previously, between 1922 and 1924 inflation in Hungary reached 98%.

Israel

Inflation accelerated in the 1970s, rising steadily from 13% in 1971 to 111% in 1979. From 133% in 1980, it leaped to 191% in 1983 and then to 445% in 1984, threatening to become a four-digit figure within a year or two. In 1985 Israel froze all prices by law. That same year, inflation more than halved, to 185%. Within a few months, the authorities began to lift the price freeze on some items; in other cases it took almost a year. By 1986, inflation was down to 19%.

Japan

After WW II, Japan went through the highest denomination at that time, which was a 75,000,000,000 Yen bank cheque. The Japan wholesale price index (relative to 1 as the average of 1934 to 1936) shot up to 16.3 in 1946, 127.9 in 1948 and 342.5 in 1951. In the early 1950s, after achieving independence from USA, Japan controlled its own money. Through its rapidly growing export trade, Japan stablized the Yen quickly.

Krajina

Krajina went through the worst inflation in 1993. In 1992, the highest denomination was 50,000 dinara. By 1993, the highest denomination was 50,000,000,000 dinara. Note that this unrecognized country was reincorporated into Croatia in 1998.

Madagascar

The Malagasy franc had a turbulent time in 2004, losing nearly half its value and sparking rampant inflation. On 1 January 2005 the Malagasy ariary replaced the previous currency at a rate of one ariary for five Malagsy francs. In May 2005 there were riots over rising inflation, although falling prices have since calmed the situation.

Nicaragua

Nicaragua went through the worst inflation from 1987 to 1990. From 1943 to April 1971, one US dollar equalled 7 córdobas. From April 1971 to early 1978, one US dollar was worth 10 córdobas. In early 1986, the highest denomination was 10,000 córdobas. By 1987, it was 1,000,000 córdobas. In the 1988 currency reform, 1 new córdoba was exchanged for 10,000 old córdobas. The highest denomination in 1990 was 100,000,000 new córdobas. In the 1991 currency reform, 1 new córdoba was exchanged for 5,000,000 old córdobas. The overall impact of hyperinflation: 1 (1991) córdoba = 50,000,000,000 pre-1988 córdobas.

Peru

Peru went through its worst inflation from 1988 to 1990. In the 1985 currency reform, 1 inti was exchanged for 1,000 soles de oro. In 1986, the highest denomination was 1,000 intis. But in September 1988, monthly inflation went to 132%. In August of 1990, monthly inflation was 397%. The highest denomination was 10,000,000 intis by 1991. In the 1991 currency reform, 1 nuevo sol was exchanged for 1,000,000 intis. The overall impact of hyperinflation: 1 nuevo sol = 1,000,000,000 (old) soles.

Poland

Poland went through its worst inflation between 1990 and 1993. The highest denomination in 1989 was 200,000 zlotych. It was 1,000,000 zlotych in 1991 and 2,000,000 zlotych in 1992. In the 1994 currency reform, 1 new zloty was exchanged for 10,000 old zlotych. Previously, between 1922 and 1924, Polish inflation reached 275%.

Republika Srpska

Republika Srpska was the breakaway region of Bosnia. As with Krajina, it pegged its currency, the Republika Srpska dinar, to that of Yugoslavia. Their bills were almost the same as Krajina's, but they issued fewer and didn't issue currency after 1993.

Romania

Romania is still working through steady inflation. The highest denomination in 1998 was 100,000 lei. By 2000 it was 500,000 lei. In early 2005 it was 1,000,000 lei. In July 2005 the leu was replaced by the new leu at 10,000 old lei = 1 new leu. Inflation in 2005 was 9%. In 2006 the highest denomination is 500 lei (= 5,000,000 old lei).

Russia

Between 1921 and 1922 inflation in Soviet Russia reached 213%.

In 1992, the first year of post-Soviet economic reform, inflation was 2,520%, the major cause being the decontrol of most prices in January. In 1993 the annual rate was 840%, and in 1994, 224%. The ruble devalued from about 40 r/$ in 1991 to about 30,000 r/$ in 1999.

Turkey

Throughout the 1990s Turkey dealt with severe inflation rates that finally crippled the economy into a recession in 2001. The highest denomination in 1995 was 1,000,000 lira. By 2005 it was 50,000,000 lira. Recently Turkey has achieved single digit inflation for the first time in decades, and in the 2005 currency reform, introduced the New Turkish Lira; 1 was exchanged for 1,000,000 old lira.

Ukraine

Ukraine went through its worst inflation between 1993 and 1995. In 1992, the Ukrainian karbovanets was introduced, which was exchanged with the defunct Soviet ruble at a rate of 1 UAK = 1 SUR. Before 1993, the highest denomination was 1,000 karbovantsiv. By 1995, it was 1,000,000 karbovantsiv. In 1996, during the transition to the Hryvnya and the subsequent phase out of the karbovanets, the exchange rate was 100,000 UAK = 1 UAH. This translates to a hyperinflation rate of approximately 1,400% per month. And to this day Ukraine holds the world record for most inflation in one calendar year, which was set in 1993. [13]

United States

During the Revolutionary War, the Continental Congress authorized the printing of paper currency called continental currency. The easily counterfeited notes depreciated rapidly, giving rise to the expression "not worth a continental."

Between January 1861 and April 1865, the Lerner Commodity Price Index of leading cities in the eastern Confederacy states increased from 100 to over 9000.[14] As the U.S. Civil War dragged on the Confederate States of America dollar had less and less value, until it was almost worthless by the last few months of the war.

Yugoslavia 50 billion Dinar bank note Yugoslavia

Yugoslavia went through a period of hyperinflation and subsequent currency reforms from 1989 to 1994. The highest denomination in 1988 was 50,000 dinars.

By 1989 it was 2,000,000 dinars. In the 1990 currency reform, 1 new dinar was exchanged for 10,000 old dinars. In the 1992 currency reform, 1 new dinar was exchanged for 10 old dinars. The highest denomination in 1992 was 50,000 dinars.

By 1993, it was 10,000,000,000 dinars. In the 1993 currency reform, 1 new dinar was exchanged for 1,000,000 old dinars. But before the year was over, the highest denomination was 500,000,000,000 dinars. In the 1994 currency reform, 1 new dinar was exchanged for 1,000,000,000 old dinars. In another currency reform a month later, 1 novi dinar was exchanged for 13 million dinars (1 novi dinar = 1 Pound sterling at the time of exchange). The overall impact of hyperinflation: 1 novi dinar = 1 × 1027~1.3 × 1027 pre 1990 dinars. Yugoslavia's rate of inflation hit 5 × 1015 percent cumalative inflation over the time period 1 October 1993 and 24 January 1994.

Zaire (now the Democratic Republic of the Congo)

Zaire went through a period of inflation between 1989 and 1996. In 1988, the highest denomination was 5,000 zaires. By 1992, it was 5,000,000 zaires. In the 1993 currency reform, 1 nouveau zaire was exchanged for 3,000,000 old zaires.

The highest denomination in 1996 was 1,000,000 nouveaux zaires. In 1997, Zaire was renamed the Congo Democratic Republic and changed its currency to francs. 1 franc was exchanged for 100,000 nouveaux zaires. The overall impact of hyperinflation: 1 franc = 3 × 1011 pre 1989 zaires.

Zimbabwe

Hyperinflation in Zimbabwe

At Independence in 1980, the Zimbabwe dollar was worth about USD 1.25. Since then, rampant inflation and the collapse of the economy have severely devalued the currency, causing many organisations to favour using the US dollar or South African rand instead. Inflation was stable until Robert Mugabe began a program of land reforms that primarily focused on taking land from white farmers and redistributing those properties and assets to black farmers; this in turn sent food production and revenues from export of food plummeting.[15][16][17]

Early in the 21st century Zimbabwe started to experience hyperinflation. Inflation reached 624% in early 2004, then fell back to low triple digits before surging to a new high of 1,730% in March 2007. During that time, the Reserve Bank of Zimbabwe revalued their currency on August 1, 2006 at a rate of 1,000 old Zimbabwean dollars to 1 revalued Zimbabwean dollar. In June 2007, inflation in Zimbabwe had risen to 11,000% from an earlier estimate of 9,000%. On May 5th, 2008 the Reserve Bank of Zimbabwe issued bank notes or "bearer cheques" for the value of ZWD 100 million and ZWD 250 million.[18]. Ten days later on May 15th, new bearer cheques with a value of ZWD 500 million (then equivalent to about USD 2.5) were issued [19]. Five days later on May 20th, a new series of notes in the form of "agro cheques" were issued in denominations of ZWD 5 billion, ZWD 25 billion and ZWD 50 billion. An addition agro cheque was issued for ZWD 100 billion on July 21st. [3] Meanwhile inflation has officially surged to 2,200,000%[4] with some analysts estimating figures surpassing 9,000,000 percent [5]. As of July 22nd, 2008, the value of the ZWD had fallen to approximately 688 billion per 1 USD, or 688 trillion pre-August 2006 Zimbabwean dollars. [6] On August 1, 2008, the Zimbabwe dollar was redenominated by removing 10 zeroes. ZWD10billion became 1 dollar after the redenomination. [7]. On August 19, 2008, official figures announced for June estimated the inflation over 11,250,000 percent (Price doubling every 22 days) [8]

Units of inflation

Inflation rate is usually measured in percent per year. It can also be measured in percent per month, or in price doubling time.

At redenominations often three zeroes are cut from the bills. It can be read from the table that if the (annual) inflation is for example 100%, it takes 3.32 years to produce one more zero on the price tags, or 3 × 3.32 = 9.96 years to produce three zeroes. Thus can one expect a redenomination to take place about 9.96 years after the currency was introduced.

See also
Inflation accounting
Inflation
Biflation
Chronic inflation
Gold as an investment
Store of value
List of economics topics
Redenomination

References

^ Phillip Cagan, The Monetary Dynamics of Hyperinflation, in Milton Friedman (Editor), Studies in the Quantity Theory of Money, Chicago: University of Chicago Press (1956).

^ "IAS 1 PRESENTATION OF FINANCIAL STATEMENTS". IASB. Retrieved on 2008-09-19.

^ "IAS 21 THE EFFECTS OF CHANGES IN FOREIGN EXCHANGE RATES". IASB. Retrieved on 2008-09-19.

^ Deloitte. FINANCIAL REPORTING IN HYPERINFLATIONARY ECONOMIES. Deloitte, IAS Plus, http://www.iasplus.com/standard/ias29.htm.

^ Hyperinflation: causes, cures Bernard Mufute, 2003-10-02, 'Hyperinflation has its root cause in money growth, which is not supported by growth in the output of goods and services. Usually the excessive money supply growth is caused by financing of the government budget deficit through the printing of money.'

^ 1 billion in the German long scale = 1000 milliard = 1 trillion US scale.

^ Values of the most important German Banknotes of the Inflation Period from 1920 - 1923

^ The Penniless Billionaires, Max Shapiro, New York Times Book Co., 1980, page 203, ISBN 0-8129-0923-2 Shipiro comments: "Of course, one must not forget the 5 pfennig!.

^ Weatherford, Jack (1997). The History of Money. Three Rivers Press, p.194. ISBN 0609801724.

^ http://www.ai.com.br/pessoal/indices/moeda.htm

^ a b Bresciani-Turroni, page 335

^ Judt, Tony (2006). Postwar: A History of Europe Since 1945. Penguin, p. 87. ISBN 0143037757.

^ Yuriy Skolotiany, The past and the future of Ukrainian national currency, Interview with Anatoliy Halchynsky, Mirror Weekly, #33(612), 2—8 September 2006

^ Money and Finance in the Confederate States of America, Marc Weidenmier, Claremont McKenna College

^ Land reform in Zimbabwe

^ Zimbabwe famine

^ Greenspan, Alan. The Age of Turbulence: Adventures in a New World. New York: The Penguin Press. 2007. Page 339.

^ Zimbabwe issues 250 mn dollar banknote to tackle price spiral- International Business-News-The Economic Times

^ BBC NEWS | World | Africa | Zimbabwe bank issues $500m note

Further reading

Costantino Bresciani-Turroni, The Economics of Inflation (English transl.). Northampton, England: Augustus Kelly Publishers, 1937, on the German 1919-1923 inflation.

Shun-Hsin Chou, The Chinese Inflation 1937-1949, New York, Columbia University Press, 1963, Library of Congress Cat. 62-18260.

Andrew Dickson White, Fiat Money Inflation in France, Caxton Printers, Idaho, 1969. a popular description of the 1789-1799 inflation.

Murray N. Rothbard, The Case for the 100 Percent Gold Dollar, Ludwig von Mises Institute, Auburn, Alabama, 2005. Free download. Includes section on 1945 Breton Woods system.

External links

Wikimedia Commons has media related to: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation

Hyperinflation

San José State University: Episodes of hyperinflation: http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/hyper.htm

A Comprehensive Gallery of Hyperinflation Banknotes : http://www.milliondollarbabies.com

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Examples Of Hyperinflation - Reply From Jack Harper

7th October 2008

I will recheck my source, but I don't think the Germans printed a bill larger than 100 marks between 1919-1923.

Unlike Zimbabwe.....with their $50,000,000.00 bill.

Jack Harper

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7th October 2008

Weimar Republic
Year Month Marks needed to buy
one US dollar
1919 April 12
December 47
1921 November 263
1922 July 493
August 1,000
October 3,000
December 7,000
1923 January 17,000
April 24,000
July 353,000
August 4,621,000
September 98,860,000
October 25,260,000,000
November 2,193,600,000,000
December 4,200,000,000,000

Jack Harper

The Storm Hits Europe from The Guardian 6th October 2008

6th October 2008

From Mike Maxwell

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The storm hits Europe
Editorial The Guardian
Monday October 6 2008

The financial storm is now on Europe's doorstep.

Yesterday the governments of Germany, Italy, Iceland and Belgium were all scrambling to find a solution to national banking crises. The collapse of the bail-out of Hypo Real Estate, Germany's second largest property lender, forced Angela Merkel to do the unthinkable and guarantee all private savings accounts.

All across Europe, governments are having the throw the rulebook away.

In the UK, Alistair Darling yesterday rejected demands from the authoritative Vince Cable for him to take the unprecedented step of calling on the Bank of England to cut interest rates.

As this crisis turns from a financial to an economic one, government intervention will surely become more the rule than the exception.

Gordon Brown's two rules, setting tax and spending, look increasingly creaky and may well be relaxed come the pre-budget report this autumn. But Mr Cable was right yesterday to also question the rules over monetary policy.

Giving independence to the Bank of England has been acclaimed as politically ingenious and economically sound, but the move has always been susceptible to the claim that it is undemocratic. An unelected band of officials working to an inflexible mandate of an inflation target are left to operate a key lever of economic policy.

For the first time since the Bank of England was given operational independence, Treasury officials now privately admit they would have lowered interest rates faster.

Mervyn King should narrow that gap by cutting interest rates by half a percentage point this week. But as we have argued, rates should have been cut earlier in this crisis - and steeper. In any case, the government needs to rethink the mandate it has given its central bank. An inflation target is not enough. It must also consider the impact of its decisions on growth and jobs.

When New Labour changed the rules of economic policymaking, politicians all over Europe were united by their desire to avoid offending the financial markets by putting anything as obtrusive as a political edge on policymaking. No more.

Gordon Brown, Mrs Merkel, Silvio Berlusconi and Nicolas Sarkozy this weekend effectively buried the strict 3% budget deficit limit imposed by the Maastricht treaty, and "called for a global summit" to draw up nothing less than;

a "new international financial system."

One of the great omissions of European economic policymaking is a continental banking regulator. There are global regulators and an array of central banks, but there is nothing in between. As Nicolas Véron of the thinktank Bruegel points out, pan-European banks work to 51 national authorities, nine EU committees and some 80 bilateral arrangements.

As financial institutions become increasingly international, this system looks out of date. Any of the big banks going belly-up would stretch the capacity of the host government to stump up the cash.

The benefits of concerted action would give Europe a bigger role in international discussion on financial regulation.

So it should not be surprising that the EU's big four called not just for a new European system of financial regulation but "a global one," bringing in China and India - a new Bretton Woods, in fact.

This was the system put in place when the global economy was devastated at the end of the second world war, which gave birth to the World Bank and the IMF. It is no exaggeration to say we face a great global challenge now. Turning the IMF into an international regulator of banks and hedge funds might be a good place to start.

The call to include China in any new financial order is an astute one. China and the rest of Asia have lent the debtor nations of the west their surplus savings. The old rules no longer apply; the new ones must aim not just at fixing financial markets but at correcting an entire economic model.

Maybe you alone can’t save the world…

Maybe you alone

can’t save the

world…

but it certainly

won’t be saved

without you.

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Quote from Harvey Arden's forthcoming book OPEN-FACE WISDOM: Fast Food for a Soul on the Run (late 2008) - harveyarden @ starpower.net

We are rich beyond our dreams but cannot save the world until..

29th September 2008

Now we get a carbon tax $$$

NOW we get a huge loan for what ?

NOW were looking for more tolls and pty ltd monopolies to start charging you for your problems...creating problems...force feeding the consumers their debts anyway they be can the mouth the nose the ear the eyes the belly the waste chute any and every way means and opening for the policy is;

burden them with paper debt until there can be only a fat engorged gross huge swine ready for its own last dinner...

Instead of efficiency and creating our OWN money from our Minerals and Metals and Oil and Trees storing more carbon co2 than we use...

rudd is gonna go in debt to China or Arabia where the interest must be paid..

unless hes gunna keep borrowing funny US dollars and broken pounds...backed by paper by more paper and more empty nothing fiat currency paper that demands real product as its interest or the same very paper plus more of the very same paper it creates ?

whitlam got caught in the Khemlani arab banking switch away from london ... it wasnt the debt but the very source of the debt, or the switch away from 200 years of begging for pounds and paying them back with gold, that caused the dismissal.. a mafia racket doesnt like its payroll being taken...

here primitive man I give you tobacco, rum, blankets and knives for your land...

now modern man I give you paper for tobacco rum sugar white flour, blankets for your land... pay me twice later (cruel evil laughter pay me with my paper ha Ha HAAaaaaa)

Australia should print its own currency backed by the trillions of dollars of common-wealth assets found in 'our golden soil'... instead of borrowing from London and New Yorks failed banks.

we need the Australian Oil Gas Metal and Mineral Common Wealth Bank to finance its own economy at cost (the small margin of administration) then we can finance the world in exchange for its products and services in return ... thank you.

we also need the Australian common wealth GAS OIL METAL AND MINERALS EXCHANGE.... why would we allow the LONDON METAL EXCHANGE to oversee our product and making pounds sterling the currency of exchange ?

we dont even have rocks in our head yet they are all underneath us waiting already surveyed already they know how much we have... and it all belongs to YOU x 21 million common wealth of australians...

We are selling our minerals metals and oil for paper. STOP leave it in the ground and sell the dollars backed by these incredible assets that really exist, leave it in the ground theres no safer bank in Australia than its land bank.

This is replacing death dead paper of and representing no real substance nor any value, nor anything that can be returned because the artificial liceants the parasites want their original funny money back plus more in interest that can only be borrowed from the parasitic source...

Casear who is dead with all the dead in death may he rest in pieces is nothing but dust demanding slavery off the living...

Once Caesar ruled by force and corrupted his money and his empire with evil it was a swift decay...

Conversely Yahshua ben YHWH is immortal alive forever in heaven and he demands love be shared equally among his children all brothers with the highest taking the last piece but cutting them all equal so each may get a part even he that chose to eat last should not be disappointed...that's a common wealth brother.

0.3% of the world with 5% of the land needs no helpers with paper loans...

We are rich beyond our dreams but cannot save the world until we save ourselves.

thanks
MM
without prejudice

Re: Your Article THE DECEPTION OF CAESAR, Is A Pile Of Bullshit

28th September 2008

This is the biggest pile of bullshit I have ever read.
Kind Regards
Claude Memma
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