To Be Educated Is To Have No Soul - The System Is Soul Destroying - Frederick Malouf & Michael Tellinger's Contrived Gifting

The Cristian Family November 2006

To Be Educated Is To Have No Soul
The System Is Soul Destroying

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

1st September 2016

The "Good Guys" of "The System" are slowly, gradually moving together. It will not be long before they are all joining up to work together for the common good of all of us under the new version of "The System", the New World Order (NWO). Theirs is not the NWO of Fema camps, mass burial grounds, military in the streets and dictatorship. Theirs is the NWO of oneness, consciousness, eco-friendly, spiritual, free energy (Tesla), One world government, religion, quota systems, etc.

All the "Good Guys" have been trained in their roles and they are bringing all the different aspects of the NWO together, making us think that they are acting separately because they appear to be coming out of grass roots movements, all unrelated to each other. They are all "We Will Lead Every Revolution Against Us" lackeys, put in place to maintain watch over the sheeple and make sure that they don't escape the enclosures of "The System" no matter how much they think they are moving towards truth and freedom.

As we have been pointing out recently, Eric Dubay is one of these, trained to capture those who are questioning their system brainwashing because they are waking up to the lies that they have been told and get them so caught up in worshipping the Flat Earth theories that they forget to practise the skills of real freedom. Eric then also talks to them about freedom, etc, but without ever giving the big picture of how the freedom he talks about is still in "The System", never outside "The System" which is the only way we can be free.

This is why pied pipers like Eric avoid scrutiny at all costs; they do not want others to learn the big picture that exposes them for the liars they are. They avoid any interview, debate or discussion with anyone who looks at the big picture and challenges them by asking all the right questions to open them to the big picture, if they are willing to go where the truth takes them. Eric refuses to debate with us but, if Eric has truth on his side, then what has he got to be scared of? Truth is all we are interested in.

What you will see in the discussion with Frederick Malouf, a Sydney based promoter of Gifting, below, is this lack of interest in going where the truth takes him. He seems to be interested in a friendly discussion, but soon his need to control outcomes through censorship and discrimination followed by his stance of third party expert commentator re-presenting those who read his Facebook page. He also throws in subtle barbs about Arthur's character and makes suggestions about how he thinks Arthur should present the Love For Life work. All of this is designed not only to censor but also to put doubt into the thoughts of others reading the thread. The doubt becomes discrimination as others are conned into reacting to the trauma Frederick has on offer, the barbs, ridicule, subtle abuse, etc.

Men like Frederick set themselves up as men seeking a fair, good outcome for everyone but it soon becomes apparent that the outcomes are only designed for those who fit into the boxes that these men and women set up. If you don't fit in, you are out. They look for "good" government, "good" business, "good" law, "good" energy, "good" lifestyles, etc, but everything is system based.

Frederick Malouf promotes Gifting, a system of which there can be many models wherein those in a Gifting community contribute time and skills in return for a share of the abundance they help to create. Sounds good, doesn't it? But it seems that the giving of the gift of their labour is all for them; they do it because it benefits them, not because they are benefiting their community. So the greed and selfishness continues.


Frederick Malouf

Also there is no mention of how this system sets MAN free in this life forevermore. There will need to be someone overseeing it, checking that everyone is doing their part and what if someone doesn't? Who is going to confront them and, if necessary, get them to leave. And what if they bring out the shotgun and say, "Make me."?

Who owns the land where the gifting community is and who administers it? Are the children now going to be educated into Gifting, the way they are educated into a, b, c, 1, 2, 3, so that they can operate in commerce? This is a continuation of inculcation - no freedom there, no uniqueness and originality. The educated slaves are still in "The System", whether under Gifting or Ubuntu.

If we still want technology, we need a system and we still need to destroy parts of earth to fulfil our technological needs. Who is going to chose which parts of earth to destroy, and who is willing to gift their time destroying it so that they can have the technology?

Any so-called alternative to the current system is still a system if it relies on men and women operating out of the void of their doubt and uncertainty.

There is so much more to this that we cover in the videos, "The Dark Side Of The Moon - The Background To "The System" Part One": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5TViw1NLr4 and "Eric Dubay's Flat Earth Movement Is A Cult - The Background To "The System" Part One": https://youtu.be/rCPWgEQg-2M

The important point is that these scams are so close to the truth that they sound wonderful but none of those promoting them will admit that they are not offering any freedom at all.

With corporations owning and controlling all the land now and with the removal of Fee Simple on lands such as Australia, meaning that even those who have paid off their mortgages are listed on their Land Titles Deeds as "Tenant", the issue has become one of who owns the land versus who is fully responsible for taking care of a piece of land, which everyone should have the opportunity to do.

When we are living, raw fooders and we have returned earth to the food forest it was dreamt to be, there is no need for contrived gifting because earth is doing all the gifting naturally to us, if we don't interfere and harm it, overcoming our greed and selfishness, our "What's in it for me?". Someone who lives this way treads very lightly, needing only a small piece of land with a food forest and clean water to care for, and having no need for electricity, technology, government, administration, free energy, etc. These "survival" needs are all gone and now we have real freedom.

Just how much do we want earth to heal? Just a little bit so that it doesn't die and we can keep fulfilling all our superficial (educated) needs, wants and desires, or completely, which means that we stop ALL the harm doing, even if that means that we have to sacrifice most of what we currently think we cannot do without. What legacy do we want to leave our children?

These Intel operatives never address the bigger picture of the psyop programming that leads men and women to enter into these glorified gifting and sustainable lifestyles while never addressing the trauma that stops them being free MAN on the land, without the need for any contrived lifestyle where they need someone to tell them how to be free and what freedom is.

A MAN on the land is a free MAN. Remove that MAN from the land and you turn that MAN into a slave who is now under another MAN who educates and trains the MAN how to live on the land that is controlled by another MAN. There are now rules, regulations, rituals, procedures, conditions and contracts between the MAN and the land and between the MAN and the MAN who claims ownership and administrative rights over the land.

Which way do we go? Where MAN is under the conditions of gifting between a MAN and a MAN, or where MAN is free on the land with nature doing ALL the gifting and without any conditions of ownership and administrative rights between MAN and another MAN?

The whole scam is over the land where we all are now. But we have all been educated and subjected to conditions since babyhood so that we are unable to live freely on that land because we don't know how to. It is alien to us but the conditions of a system of a MAN under another MAN are not, so we are easily susceptible into being manipulated into accepting another system model under another guise that appeals to our educated slavery sentiments of freedom, sustainability and consciousness.

The fact that we are being educated into gifting is a red light alert to the fact that there is no freedom to be found here. A MAN on the land does not need educating because nature already provides that and everything else that "The System" tries to mimic unnaturally. Our ancestry is on the land but along the way our ancestors were removed from land and educated so they could learn how to live under another MAN through the system of their slave masters beckoning. And here we still are squabbling over the semantics of gifting but all of us are educated slaves in "The System" where we don't have freedom on the land.

A child brought up by nature is already skilled in allowing nature to gift everything to MAN and never squabbles over any MAN having access to nature's natural, constant abundance. This has not been educated into them. Can you not see the system scam of gifting and the politics of Ubuntu? Gifting and Ubuntu are pitched to educated slaves. They are not pitched to MAN already free on land. Those still strapped to gifting and Ubuntu still have a long way to go to fully wake up.

Give MAN the full responsibility to live on land again, and that MAN will do what MAN has to do to live freely again and, in doing so, MAN will again become a calm and peaceful MAN. Keep MAN from the land, and MAN will continue to be a desperate, educated slave still squabbling and squabbling while being manipulated by slave masters who are pitching the systems of gifting and Ubuntu through their controlled opposition lackeys.

When we succumb to the doubt and uncertainty of having to do something, anything now because of our current predicaments of slavery, we are still educated slaves perpetuating the doubt and uncertainty that we can be fully magnificent free MAN on the land without the need for any unnatural system in this life. Slave masters and their lackeys play on this doubt and uncertainty by manipulating us and providing us with "alternatives" that we clutch at and cling to rather than telling them all where to go and living freely on land again, learning how to take full responsibility for the land so that we don't do harm to it any more and the flow of abundance is never ending, freeing all of MAN from being under another MAN. Land is the only issue we have to resolve in this life. No one owns the land, so what are we waiting for?

Frederick Malouf doesn't talk about any of this. He just gets into semantics, as do Michael Tellinger and others promoting these "alternative" systems that do not usurp the power and control of the slave masters they serve.

To Be Educated Is To Have No Soul - The System Is Soul Destroying - Frederick Malouf & Michael Tellinger's Contrived Gifting continues here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8586

The Dark Side Of The Moon
The Background To "The System" Part One

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5TViw1NLr4

Eric Dubay's Flat Earth Is A Cult
The Background To The System Part 2

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
31st August 2016
154 Minutes
https://youtu.be/rCPWgEQg-2M

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
1st September 2016

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Arthur Cristian

As we are all for full-disclosure, we posted this FB PM that occurred over the past 14 hrs or so........

In reference to this link: https://www.facebook.com/theqse/videos/10153755751620817/?__mref=message...

20th August 2016

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Facebook Private Message

Frederick Malouf

Hi Arthur. I appreciate your posts in reply to Karl's question on my post here:

https://www.facebook.com/theqse/videos/10153755751620817/?__mref=message....

However, it would be nicer and more respectful to just put a link to your youtube page, nd not flood the comments, as this detracts from others reading other people's opinions. So, other than the first link, can you please erase the rest and just add your youtube link within the first listing? Happy to discuss modelling shifting to gifting any time you like, but please be more aware of your actions. Everyone has a voice; please do not negate them.

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Frederick Malouf 18:27

What is your number? I would like to call you
mine is (sanitised)


Frederick Malouf

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Frederick Malouf
19:39

Hi Arthur, what is your number?

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21/08/2016 08:50

Arthur Cristian

Hi Fredrick :) - we saw this pm late last night. We will condense all the link posts to Love For Life videos and articles into one. We are currently upgrading and expanding the food forest garden. This latest stage has been going on for two weeks and it continues on over the coming month or so. We will call you on the cordless today between 11.00am and 2.00pm - mobile signal is generally not the best here but you can try calling or texting 0418 203204. You are most welcome to call us any day between 11.00am and 4.00pm. All the best to you and your family. Fredrick. Arthur & Fiona Cristian.

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Frederick Malouf
08:52

Cool. I have unlimited calls so if you want me to call the landline, just SMS or message me and I'll call you. :)

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Arthur Cristian
09:02

Last time we gave out the landline (years ago) we were inundated daily by desperate people ringing at all times of the night and day from any part of earth. The mobile is our ONLY telecommunication contact otherwise we occasionally use Skype.We use the free, unlimited landline plan to ring landlines or mobiles across Oz for those who want to chat over copper//fiber-optics. To those who get more involved/deeply involved with Kindom we eventually give them the landline number.

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Frederick Malouf
09:07

Fine. I have no interest in bothering people, as I am sure my request to cull your posts implies. My interest in Kingdom is more to do with the mechanism itself: how it empowers creative sustainability, and how to get there. Many people have dreams of the endgame, what I fear is the iconic nature of these. I think my posts in the gifts illustrates the point. Look forward to talking more when you are free.

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Arthur Cristian
09:30

A tree or a shrub is not drowned out by a forest, instead all celebrate the life of all without conditional acceptance. A cockphony of cockatoos does not dominate sensory life because they are what they are as part of uncorrupted nature. Passion to live is not a problem in itself, instead the passion of life being whatever it is should be celebrated and not shunned or denied, boxed or moulded, and this is what we offer through the passion of the love for life work.

The passion behind the love for life insight work has taken us to places where hardly anyone else has been and we open the full-disclosure doors to the Freemasonic psyop programming scam so that those who really/passionately dream for a living freedom, truth, peace, abundance, calm, etc, in this life can go about creating that in this life without invalidation of their uniqueness and originality. It is all in the intent.

In the Love For Life website, since it started December 2006, we have not controlled or censored anyone's work/posts/comments/blogs/etc, unless they contain heaps of aggressive, personal attacks, foul language that have nothing to do with the thread, or contain links, hidden or not, to commercial advertisements. Same with all the FB walls and YouTube channels we use bar the FB Kindom group which is only for those committed to the Kindom dream co-creation in this life.

See the Love For Life work as a pond for those who dream to drink from it. We will call you sometime today between 11.00am and 4.00pm. We are shutting down the pc now.

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Frederick Malouf
09:31

cool.

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Frederick Malouf
09:37

Hey Arthur, I went to your website and it blocked 115 popup ads. Perhaps something to look at?

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af70/ILoveCasperTheGhost/FrderickMalo... (photo snapshot of adblocks yaken by Fred)

Facebook Post on Arthur's FB wall 21st August 2016 photo FrderickMalouf1_zps8ldqifpd.jpg

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Arthur Cristian
09:43

There is no pop up blockers coming from the website or it's server and there are no adds installed to pop up coming from the website or it's server. We still use the very old Drupal 5 data base which has none of this capability. Best you look into the browser you use or even the IP service you use to browse across the internet.
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Frederick Malouf
09:44

Thanks. :)

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Arthur Cristian
09:45

We are condensing all the video links into one post and then we are back in the garden.

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Arthur Cristian
09:52

You must have already deleted most of them.. Will sort out what remains.

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Frederick Malouf
09:53

I did as I had not heard from you, and was a bit agitated about it. I minimised it without trying to lose your message, but you are welcome tomato it more efficient.

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Arthur Cristian
10:29

We have condensed all Love For Life video links and articles into one comment bar the last most important thread (copy.paste of a recent FB post) which we re-posted in its entirety because ANYONE who really wants to break away from the engineered, psyop programming that continues trapping them inside "The System", of their "own" doing, needs to read it in its entirety. A gifting system operating inside the confines of "The System" is ONLY the continuation of slavery under another fantasy guise. If you are sincere about a living freedom for all then you will leave it up as it supports everything of a living freedom you live stand for too.

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Arthur Cristian
10:34

We assume that you are not into a censorship of truth and instead, is revering, celebrating and passionately supporting the incontrovertible truth unconditionally.

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Frederick Malouf

You assuming I am talking about gifting inside a system. I am interested in making a slavery system redundant. Still plans require systems, even what is natural has systems to survive. They are just diverse, therefore connected. If I was interested in censorship, I would have blocked you and erased everything, no? Anyway, as I said, I am curious about how you plan to overcome the system, as all Gifters with any sense knows is the only option.

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Frederick Malouf
11:15

Arthur, I ask to reduce your posts and then you re reply to Karl with a flurry of them. Can't you just put links to these as it's just cut and paste, right? Do you know when you do this it looks fanatical? Say what you want, just do it in a nicer way. Do you want to hit people over the head or persuade them to the empowerment you are offering? Your choice.

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Frederick Malouf
11:43

I am not saying this to be a master, I am saying if you post many links at one time that are really long, you are acting like one. You want people to breathe, but you smother them with info instead of linking to your into and to inbibe at will. Everyone has a voice. We both are valuing this but you then you want to be critical about me implying I am reducing yours. I do not think I need to defend this. I am saying if you want people to listen, it isn't coming through. It feels like indoctrination, not empowerment.

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Arthur Cristian

21/08/2016 11:30

We do not re-present the lives of others..... feelings, thoughts, attitudes, etc. This in itself is a satanic craft in practise. The sun shines radiantly and passionately,..... those who want to open the "blind's and curtains will do so while others may chose to shut the light out. We create the light for those who want to return to it. We are not into dragging out anyone from the darkness or persuading or changing anyone either. If we do not create the light there will be no light for those lost to the darkness to return to. It is all in the intent and we do not censor MAN'S heart to do no harm. We are not into the prophecy of another MAN'S life by predetermining conditions we place on them and what they may or may not do, think, feel, react, etc...

The full responsibility to do no harm is with each of us. Celebrating the heart of MAN'S light/heart is where it is all at. Do you want to censor and discriminate against that and in doing so covet (brain/thought control) others? All of this "control" is self-centeredness. What happens to a living freedom if we act like this? Some Love the Love For Life work while others hate it. Are we supposed to try to fit into everyones prefered controlled outcomes, formats, language, post lengths, etc? We don't sell out. It is there for those who want it. We are not placing objects (objections) before the light and casting diluted shadows of truth to keep everyone less than their potential. We are no one's master or slave, nor are we anyones leader or follower. We are who we really are. Are you comfortable with that? Or do you prefer us to fit into your mould?

Also, this is both Fiona and Arthur writing to you throughout this discussion.

You are-presenting the lives of others in 3rd party. Acting in 3rd party makes us impostors, Frederick, something that men and women who have sold out to Freemasonry and their intel operatives lackeys do very well. Impersonating the lives/characters of others is a satanic ritual (inculcation) in practise because the impersonators do not want others to get the full information from the horse's mouth - they want to act as the filter, the expert commentators moulding how others see the information being presented.

Bring forward everyone you re-present in first party, let's hear it all from them without you being their expert commentator. Can you do this?

It is always best to have NO e-motional attachments to any outcomes otherwise it is the satanic ritual (re-presentation of another MAN'S intent) showing up as a trauma being performed because, when we do this, we are determined to control outcomes under limited liability/responsibility, blaming something or someone, some foe, for our actions.

It is when we have e-motional attachments that we create controversies, dramas, e-motional routines that include cold, icy, brilliant intellects hiding the lie of their true intent/motive, etc, to undermine and sabotage the characters of innocent others and the integrity of do no harm groups by projecting third party manipulation onto them. This is the basis of invasion, war, social unrest, chaos, destruction and harm as documented throughout the recorded Freemasonic ages of their inculcation practices. All their recorded glory relates to this shit.

Everything about "The System" is this inculcation shit.

Is this what you are about?

Do you come with a loaded gun?

This is how Freemasons provide order to the chaos they manipulate the duped into creating, leading their rats, us, into the pantomime rituals they perform (psyop programs) on us. They are great actors, meaning they are great liars. We are NOT into any of this - we see/sense through it all.

If you want to censor/delete posts well then that is your intent but using the imposter excuse of not wanting to put others off what we say to cover up your intent (pass-the-buck on to others you impersonate) is BULLSHIT. Aren't you free of all this shit? Do you really hate freedom that much?

How do you propose we become free when you are placing conditions (censorship/discrimination) on to others? Isn't this the very thing we are trying to get away from? Why are you acting as the object casting the shadow on the dark side of the moon

Think of the reflection of the dark side of the moon and see how the Freemasons use the eclipse of the sun to hide in the shadows of their deceptions while they do all their dirty impersonation work without ever providing full disclosure of the despicable nature of their horrific lust for power and control over MAN, the shadows they cast over all their targeted victims. If you can see this, can you also see that your desire to shape how our posts are presented to others is this satanic ritual (war dance) in practise.

The light of the moon is their light, the light of the expert, third party commentator (impostor, re-presentative of the truth as a lie), and the dark side of the moon is the secret of their intent to control and dominate all of MAN, interceding (interloping, intermeddling, as in expert commentators, politicians, priests, etc, all of them dumb and stupid with no sense) between MAN and MAN and between MAN and MAN's nature/earth/living dream of life. MAN is the only first party to all life (sensory) experience because MAN is creating all experiences being experienced. Bring forward an experience without MAN being party to that experience. No one can. MAN coming forward in third party as an impostor/expert commentator is not proof of fact and neither is all their technology, engineering, bio-genetics, cloning, system science, etc, etc. This is how you rout out liars and their lies.

The control of MAN'S thoughts is what the moon is really reflecting. It reveals the truth in MAN'S collective living dream of life, as do all the celestial bodies because they are the souls of all of MAN who have remembered who they really are. Their presence is always amongst the living because they still live. This is why their light shines and why the light s of soul groups shine in clusters. All else of system science is bullshit.

How can a post, any post, be fully responsible for the e-motional reaction someone chooses to have to it? Does it really have ANY POWER, considering it is a fiction and is dead/soulless, without free will? The only one with free will is the actor - when you wake up to this, it is easy to catch liars red-handed.

None of the reactions you are having are coming from what you are reading, just as, when we look through a microscope or telescope, none of the thoughts that we think about what we are observing are coming from what we are observing, or listening to - the e-motions and thoughts in your head that lead you to intercede and cast shadows are not coming from what you are reading or hearing at any time in your life - it is what you are projecting over what you are reading or hearing or seeing (sensing), and this deceptive scam (no full disclosure to everyone) has been at the black heart of the whole of "The System" (the dark side of the moon where everyone is trapped) and all the Freemasonic engineered agendas to control everybody, ever since this inculcation scam started.

Freemasons are brilliant story tellers acting in third party the illusions they use to run the psyop scams - they manipulate everyone because they want power and control over everyone. They must control all outcomes. This is why they have politics, religion, New Age, law, entertainment, sport, oneness, economy, charities, etc, - they are psyop programs, the casting of the dark side of their moon.

There is an agenda buried in it but they don't reveal it, which is why politicians lie while they are kissing babies and why we are sold poisonous lollies in shiny wrappings, and why we have freedom/consciousness movements, alternative economies, etc, including gifting, being peddled by liars like David Icke, Michael Tellinger, Mark Passio, Max Igan, Eckhart Tolle, Deepak Chopra, and a cast of thousands of these liars spreading darkness across earth to provide the Freemasonic illuminated order to this engineered chaos of their collective ingenuity.

Is a little bit of harm alright? Just a bit here and there? Just how much harm is acceptable? Isn't the acceptance of a little bit of harm here, there and everywhere the reason why MAN and MAN'S earth/nature/dream of life is in the state it is in today? Everyone is just accepting the harm, and people like David Icke talk about all the harm but do nothing about stopping their contribution to the harm. Is this what you are about or are you just still waking up to this shit?

Why are you casting shadows of clever manipulation to suit the outcomes you worship as your master? What is compelling you to act like this? Are you e-motionally fucked up, under the thumb of these e-motions, because you are complicit in peddling these psyop tactics in first party, or are you running a predetermined (educated, trained) agenda as an expert commentator casting the shadows of the dark side of the illuminated moon? Do you really love assassinating the characters of others? If not, what are you offering?

Now we are addressing full responsibility, without the intention to pass the buck to anyone because to do so is a lie, an action in the shadows, and it is a scam to use a lie to hide the intent behind what we do, something that Freemasons and Intel operatives are very good at because they pass the buck to a fiction, to blame someone or something so that they can get away with what they are doing.

If someone is hungry, do you give them a bowl of shit, a bowl of good food with a bit of shit in it, or a big bowl full of nourishing, uncompromised, living food? This is what happens when we compromise truth by censorship, discrimination, ridicule and abuse, working with inculcation practice - others are denied the full experience (FULL DISCLOSURE) of the magnificent light of the living truth and are left with bits of edited truth that no longer contain the big picture, thus leaving them still in the dark. Is this what you are about?

We do not provide censorship - we provide everything of the big picture but you have a problem with this and suggest we should alter how we write. Why do you not want to allow those who visit your FB page to experience the full disclosure of the big picture without any compromise? Surely only then do they have the freedom to make a choice about the Love For Life insight work, whether to take it or leave it? Are you their third party, illuminated God, overlooking them and deciding for them just how much or how little exposure they should have to what we write? Do you control the swinging gates to heaven?This is what the Anti-Christ (life/truth/light) is all about, and the New World Order? What is wrong with the full magnificence of MAN? Do you hate it?

Why are you trying to put dimmers on the light of MAN'S magnificence? Do you not love the passion of MAN'S undiluted, uncorrupted love of truth?

The post that we were directed to by Michael V. Knight was on your FB wall and what we wrote in it was completely on topic with and supportive of the thread that we were asked to participate in. We are only addressing the truth here. But you have a problem with our gift, and want to tamper with MAN'S magnificence and cast aspersion over what is being shared. Do you have a problem with the truth?

When these inculcation rituals are performed, there is another agenda going on, which is a power and control trip. Are you really about this? This is how brilliant, cold, icy pied pipers control rats and is the basis of the whole of "The System" of illumination. The illumination is the light that they want to see reflected, and all else is shut out, ridiculed, abused, censored, discriminated against, made a mockery of, ignored,rejected, denied - any psyop method of destruction (order) that can be used as a distraction (to the chaos) from the truth.

You are offering a gifting system but where is the gift in controlling others and therefore manipulating how others experience them, prodding the cattle in the direction you want them to go?

You shall know them by their fruits.

Fiona and Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

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Frederick Malouf
21/08/2016 14:13

Jesus.

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Frederick Malouf
21/08/2016 14:15

Again, I am saying I just want input for discussion and you tell me I am adjudicating. I don't think this is going well. I want a constructive conversation and you give me speeches. Get to the point. What is your mechanism for empowering the kingdom? All this other stuff is wasting time.

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Frederick Malouf
21/08/2016 14:19

I see. I am probing cattle, you aren't. Your perception. At least I am trying to have a discussion, not demand allegiance.
You going to call me?
I am trying to learn your system, while you have just decided that what I propose is meaningless, without understanding more. You aren't going to scale this is this is how you want to talk.

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Arthur Cristian
21/08/2016 14:37

The proof is in the pudding Frederick, You can wail all you like but it won't change the facts given. We are addressing your current acts. We have not made up anything here. Either you are all for (full support) of a living freedom for all or you only want a diluted one which is not what we are about. Focusing on one's character is a diversion tactic. Exposing the methods used to di;ute truth, freedom, etc, is ONLY what we are doing here. We've never made anything "personal" here and don't intend to.

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Frederick Malouf
21/08/2016 14:37

Jesus.
again
call me if you want

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Arthur Cristian
21/08/2016 14:38

JeZeus = ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT

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Frederick Malouf
21/08/2016 14:38

stop arguing and cal me

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Arthur Cristian
21/08/2016 14:40

Again, you are performing in 3rd party. Are you here in this room with us to see us being argumentative? Do you have an all seeing eye?

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Frederick Malouf
21/08/2016 14:41

OK. I think this is going nowhere. I want to learn about your model. You are being patronising and antagonistic. Time to go. I do not like your energy. Bye.

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Arthur Cristian
21/08/2016 14:42

It was already going nowhere when you started to dilute freedom/truth. etc. It was your complaint Frederick, not ours. LOLLLLLL

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Frederick Malouf
21/08/2016 14:42

ITs too bad, because I really want to know about what you have created
Oh god! hahaha. Ciao

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Arthur Cristian
21/08/2016 14:44

It is all up on the Love For Life website and we even provided you with many links to videos, articles, etc, in your Facebook thread/Wall for you to dive into but you prefer to remove most of them, to protect others... LOLLL

The Cristian Family November 2006

Copy Of The Full Facebook Thread
On Frederic Malouf's Facebook Wall

Link: https://www.facebook.com/theqse/videos/10153755751620817

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Frederick Malouf

20 April 2016

The edited version of the talk I gave: The Greatest Gift. Why money builds scarcity, and how we need and can surpass quantitative exchange to achieve sustainability, and the status creating it.

Thanks again so much to Peter Dowson and Digital Storytellers for the edit. :)

Video

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Marieke de Goeij

Yeah you finally got me!! Great job! (Ps Peter Dowson edit in the applause - he deserves it!:)

20 April at 16:48

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Frederick Malouf

Thanks Marieke. :) That really means a lot.

20 April at 16:56

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Frederick Malouf

Colin Turner

24 April at 12:57

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Colin Turner

Wonderful! Love the commentary on Bitcoin! :D

24 April at 18:45

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Frederick Malouf

Vincentius Arnold

27 April at 11:23

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Timothy Rayner

Nice edit. How about some soundbites? May I recommend the bit about gifting as a selfish act? This point is fundamental to Mauss' take in The Gift, but it is overlooked by many enthusiasts... There is a temptation to sacralise gifting, to Christianise it, ultimately.

2 July at 11:54

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Ronald Brown

thanks very much.....shared

4 July at 19:45

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Hüppe Keith

Great video I hope to see more.

5 July at 17:37

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Omari Mack

https://www.facebook.com/100008818925940/videos/1560211630949453

"School is about indoctrinating, not educating. Jane Elliot breaks down the truth for those who are still in denial about what their child is truly learning and the kind of people they're learning it from. Check out this video. It's worth watching. Share it if you appreciate teachers that stand up for what's best for your children..."

15 July at 10:18

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Coen Dahlhaus

A great lecture Frederick. Watched it for the second time after a while now. Great!

15 July at 17:46

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Piet Bacela Bosman

great video thanks boet

15 July at 19:31

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Maestro Libre

Awesome. Our greatest gift if to serve the sovereignty of mankind. So what service are you providing?

17 July at 14:49

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Frederick Malouf

Good question. For now it is how to use gifting to enrich everyone's lives. And I give that freely, not with a book you buy or being a career speaker. But as gifting takes hold, I expect to be participating in other ways. I just don't know what they are yet.

20 July at 16:37

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Maestro Libre

Im sure you will figure it out, keep on serving! <3

20 July at 16:38

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Anthony Muscio

Thanks Frederick Malouf my understanding is growing. I grasp the argument in a number of ways. I am keen to obtain more practical understanding along with understanding of how we can operate it holistically in our society. I have recently being investigating the idea of a guaranteed "Living wage" which I think could be one way to start us on a path to what you envision. It seems to me clear, that once we learn to live sustainably within what the environment allows us, and the continued revolutions in technology and understanding, that we can have a world of physical abundance, now we need the abundance from and within humanity as you propose. No one should go short and everyone should be free to excel.

20 July at 16:27

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Sugiarto Witaria

this is great.

23 July at 04:01

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Sharon Wallace

Wheat

Wheat Very informative, sir! I do believe we agree much more than disagree. Will revisit this tomorrow when I am more alert.

28 July at 14:21

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Cassandra Toohey

If this video resonated with you I know the Ubuntu Contributionism Movement founded by Michael Tellinger will too. Please google it and watch some videos of Michael's talks on youtube. You won't regret it! He has some very practical steps we can take right now, in order to implement a more abundant and exciting world.

31 July at 16:41

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Frederick Malouf

Michael has some good points, but I think his model defaults to volunteering, not an empowering, creative, sustainably abundant paradigm. There are many ways to gifting, so whatever suits are the best ways forward.

31 July at 19:20

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Cassandra Toohey

:o with all due respect I completely disagree. I think you should look into it further. All the words you used- empowering, creative, sustainably abundant paradigm, are all words that are clearly affiliated with the Ubuntu movement because it puts into practice exactly that.

Ubuntu London Meeting 2016 - Part 3 Ubuntu Plan of Action
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kHjqpi7Ym9c

1st August at 08:05

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Frederick Malouf

I understand we have the same outcomes, but how we get there is different. I don't agree with the hour limits, 3 hours a day for the community and 3 hours a week on your own project. Why divide that? Do your passion and spend as much as you want as demand requires gifting it. Be the best in what you do in creating sustainable abundance and be known for it. You are at one with the community, not a servant to it. There is no separateness. It is a total free market creating sustainable abundance. Only gifting can do this. I don't create and then just be given a plate of food. That is what he said at a presentation I heard him at. And I interviewed him. I am fucking amazing, and I take what I need and support who I am interested in supporting. Hedonistic creativity and experiences, I guess. That is how I look at it.

16 August at 03:20

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Cassandra Toohey

It honestly seems as if you've misunderstood the movement and the actions Micheal has outlined. (which are suggestions by the way- but they're very good suggestions).

The 3 hours a day for the community and 3 hours a week for your passion- they're not limits but guidelines... you can spend more time doing your passion with the remaining hours of the day. And what's even more amazing is that your passion could easily become your contribution to the community. There are no restrictions about a limited amount of time your are allowed to spend on something- this is simply not true.

And if everything is free- which is the Ubuntu goal- then of course, everything that is created- is gifted by default.

I don't understand what you're saying when you say Michael said "I don't create and then just be given a plate of food". This is one sentence plucked out of an entire presentation and you haven't put it into context for me. He could have been saying something like "in this world, we can't just create and be given a plate a food, we have to earn money and prove ourselves etc" which is obviously the paradigm we are trying to move away from.

Or he may have been saying that in the Ubuntu community, if you don't contribute to a community project then you don't get everything for free (during the transitional stage) because that would mean there is an entire community trying to make this shift and they're all putting in their effort and time to keep the community going in abundance for everyone- and here's this bloke who does nothing but reaps the fruits of our labour. which isn't fair. You said it yourself- there has to be boundaries.

Where is the interview? I would love to watch it/ listen to it.

For your last couple of sentences I'm not sure if you are saying that, or if you are saying you think Michael thinks that way?

I'm very sad that you see the movement this way because when you truly look into it- I would recommend reading the book above all things- you can clearly see that this is so so so far from a limiting society.

3 August at 10:04

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Frederick Malouf

Hi Cassandra. I do not mean to make it a contest. The bottom line is if a movement has traction for progress, and people feel empowered by it, then that is the way to go. I am just expressing my own opinion about it and while it has a political face, I haven't seen it practiced. I could be wrong about what I think. This is a link to the interview. It's 2 years old, so a bit outdated: https://youtu.be/IiRlgT9ReBM :)

Michael Tellinger @ Ubuntu

4 August at 20:24

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Cassandra Toohey

Not trying to contest, trying to convince.

Liam Munday Manly ran for senate of NSW in Australia (where I am from) as a member of the Ubuntu Australia party in the most recent elections, and Michael Tellinger is currently trying to win one municipality in South Africa as we speak :)
Thanks for the link.

5 August at 10:16

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Frederick Malouf

Sure. Let me know what you think.

5 August at 10:23

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Cesar Turcios

I highly recommend this information on the history and dynamics of debt, money and trade/exchange.

Here's a outlined breakdown of it. But watch the video if you have the time:

- Barter did not exist before money and doesn't exist in societies that don't use money
- In societies without money, exchange was/is done by sharing and gifting with implied debt/credit
- The first appearance of money (and explicit debt/credit) is as penalties in ancient legal systems
- Autocracies and theocracies later use metal money to fulfill credit debts
- Coin money is later made and distributed by autocracies for market taxation to fund military occupations
- The middle ages didn't use barter, they reverted back to credit systems
- Money markets resurrect in 15th century
- Competition money markets are created by state-empires for taxation

David Graeber: "DEBT: The First 5,000 Years" | Talks at Google
- https://youtu.be/CZIINXhGDcs

17 August at 14:31

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Tim Ramsay

"scare-city"?

3 August at 01:25

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Alex Arathoon

apart-ments

5 August at 18:23

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Mark D Funda

Are you familiar with Michael Tellinger and the Ubuntu contributionism model and philosophy ?

6 August at 17:49

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Frederick Malouf

Yes I am. Interviewed him on my show 2 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiRlgT9ReBM

Michael Tellinger @ Ubuntu
23rd July 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiRlgT9ReBM

6 August at 18:06

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Frederick Malouf

I think the fundamental difference between Theqse and Ubuntu is the idea of contribution. I am not really looking at gifting as something to contribute to something bigger than you. I focus on the fact that it is all about you, and this naturally leads to collaborating, contributing, creating. For yourself AND communities, in the most sustainable way possible. Contributing sounds like it is a moral obligation. I do not care about morals. I care about excellence, which, when you know yourself, is a completely collaborative, sustainable, paradigm.

7 August at 12:09

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Denise Ward

We don't need to just have one or two systems. We should be able to live in systems that suit us which could be abundant also.

10 August at 16:24

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Frederick Malouf

Hi Denise, I do not think systems are the priority, only what achieves sustainable abundance. I personally think gifting is the only way to achieve that, based on basic fundamentals and status modelling. HOW creating sustainable abundance changes all over the place, dependent on locality, resources, skills, whose reach expands and contracts as required. But gifting itself to leverage that won't change. Many people are exploring many options with and without money, and whatever resonates will be the ones that work, until we reach making decisions solely based on joy. Only gifting can drive that.

10 August at 18:31

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Alex Georgiev

You are turning into a guru. Grow a ponytail. Good job!

12 August at 12:33

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Frederick Malouf

Haha. Guru comes from within, so I don't need the ponytail. I could lose some weight, though. Where are you when I need you, man? :) Anyway, we are all gurus if we want to be, however we manifest that. :)

12 August at 13:16

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Cesar Turcios

I think it's mere semantics and hair-splitting to differentiate so between 'gifting' and 'contributionism'.

Everyone's different as to this moneyless society, but we're all the same as to this moneyless society. Picking on differences to such a degree borders on cynicism and separates/divides us. Money divides us. Stop the separation. It's destructive in any degree.

17 August at 14:53

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Frederick Malouf

Either way, my aim is to empower people to create what they want, not what they are told to do. I want people to contribute what they wish, for their own gain, which of course implies the same for others. If you find contributing meaning empowering peer driven sustainable excellence, then I am all for it.

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Fabian Kuntur Flight

Viewed your presentation Dear Frederick Malouf - my intuitive response https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyEz6Ru2IwY

The seed embodies the qualities that you speak about, as it has within it-self; the past, the present and the future - it manifests abundance as it evolves through earth and sky <3

“Seed freedom is Earth Rights … it is the right of the seed in all its diversity and self organization to evolve into the future.” Dr. Vandana Shiva http://therightsofnature.org/the-law-of-the-seed

The Moment of Beauty
https://youtu.be/LyEz6Ru2IwY

17 August at 22:19

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Fabian Kuntur Flight

This could be of interest - http://opensourceecology.org

Open Source Ecology
We’re developing open source industrial machines that can be made for a fraction of commercial costs, and sharing…
OPENSOURCEECOLOGY.ORG

18 August at 08:12

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Busui Matei

Did you just say Elon Musk made his work open source?

18 August at 18:10

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Frederick Malouf

Yes, he has. I haven't seen anyone take it up, though. Not his problem, of course, but certainly shows the flaw in the competitive system we choose to live by.

17 hrs

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Busui Matei

I haven't seen this. Where could I find the code or deeper deigns from Tesla cars? Or from one of those spaceships?

9 hrs

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Frederick Malouf

Talk to Tesla

9 hrs

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Busui Matei

I am talking to you about something which you said. I am asking for further reference about a claim which you made.

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Frederick Malouf

Seriously? I heard they have. Do you want the info or you are hair picking a stupid fight?

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Busui Matei

Where have you heard about this? I have searched the internet for anything free from Elon Musk after watching your video with huge excitement because I am a green energy advocate too. However I could only find PayPal API usage examples. Now, I have heard of no such thing from either Tesla, nor SpaceX, but I have heard from you. So I am asking you, not them. I don't know what you think we are fighting, I am not doing anything related to fighting here.

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Frederick Malouf

So talk to Tesla. I don't have the info. I only heard it. Did you talk to Tesla instead of searching independently? And if I am wrong, I am. But I heard their info is open source.

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Busui Matei

Thanks for taking interest in replying to me, but you are repeating something which I understood while not answering my question. I asked you where have you heard this?

8 hrs

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Frederick Malouf

https://www.tesla.com/en_AU/blog/all-our-patent-are-belong-you?redirect=...

All Our Patent Are Belong To You
Yesterday, there was a wall of Tesla patents in the lobby of our Palo Alto headquarters. That is no longer the case. They have been removed, in the spirit of the open source movement, for the advancement of electric vehicle technology.
TESLA.COM

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Frederick Malouf

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.forbes.com%...

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Busui Matei

Oh dear, I get it now. You just misunderstood. This doesn't mean they put things open source (and by the way they only speak about electrical cars, nothing about SpaceX, nor paypal or any other work from Elon). This simply means they won't sue you if you use similar technologies in a product you create.

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Frederick Malouf

Again, if you were interested in validation what I said, you'd talk to Tesla, not play politics.

8 hrs

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Frederick Malouf

Did I say about SpaceX? No

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Frederick Malouf

Oh ok

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Busui Matei

You said about Elon Musk, SpaceX is his work, Paypal as well. I am simply debating something you said and I misunderstood, I am not playing politics. Trust me this is in your favour more than in mine (I could really do something for myself in this time), but also in the favour of other people listening to future talks from you if you learn something from our conversations

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Frederick Malouf

Ok thanks. Well, let's hope the rest of what I said is more interesting than this.

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Arthur Cristian

Thanks. Money/"The System" not only builds scarcity it totally relies upon extensive soul-destroying/brainwashing/harm to MAN and MAN'S nature/earth/dream of life to manufacture educated slaves (hue-mans) out of manipulated/distorted MAN to perform all the robotic tasks (blue collars, white collars, labourers, etc) of "The System" and, in doing so, cause the fantasy and illusion of "The System" (everything of "The System") to roll along here and now without ever departing from being under a "state" of delusion .

And it even gets worse than this because "The System" is totally reliant upon discrimination, censorship and categorisation of MAN forming the haves and have nots (measurements), forcing MAN to give up taking full-responsibility for MAN'S dream of life and accept limited responsibility/liability for their lives, becoming totally reliant on sucking on the nipples of the Freemasonic (black-magic - make-believe) alphabets, mathematics/geometry (measurements) occults, esoterics, constructs, concepts, private corporations, institutions, services, etc, etc, to tell them who they are, what they are, where they are from, what they are part of, what to do, what to feel, how to act, when to act, why to act in such a way (all of it contrived = compelling e-motions) and therefore govern MAN too.

To be educated is to have no soul.

Currently almost everyone is reliant on a soul-destroying world of 3rd party education, instruction, explanation and suggestion (indoctrination/brainwashing) to get out of "The System" or to just improve their prison system conditions (paint the grey cells pink) within it, without ever giving up being that educated slave doing harm to MAN and MAN'S Earth/Nature.

THERE IS NO REMEDY TO BE FOUND IN "THE SYSTEM"/MONEY (cashless or not). MAN was never meant to be educated and be under the image power (compelling e-motions/instructions) of another MAN.

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"Get rid Of Money" posted this comment in Arthur's YouTube channel today..........

Link: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFg0Iw4ujjPHGKsiF4m5K2Q/discussion?lc=z...

What do you guys think of the whole getting rid of money as a solution to our many problems? ie -

- The Ubuntu Contribution System (TUCS)- Michael Tellinger
- The Venus Project (TVP) - Jacque Fresco
- New Earth Nation (NEN) - Sacha Stone
- Intentional Community Sharing (ICS) - you
- The Free World Charter
- The Mocica Project - mocica .org/en/Project
- Paradism - Rael
- The Valhalla Movement

Books on getting rid of money:

1- UBUNTU Contributionism: A Blueprint for Human Prosperity by Michael Tellinger
2- The Best That Money Can't Buy: Beyond Politics, Poverty & War by Jacque Fresco
3- Escaping The Fish Bowl: The Awakening To A Freedom Economy by Robyn Moyle
4- Trekonomics : The Economics of Star Trek by Manu Saadia?

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Arthur Cristian

The new world order (NWO) is a cashless (no money) quota system (it is still a system under another guise), no different to medieval serfdom where serfs/commoners/slaves/renters provided a yearly/seasonal % of whatever was agreed with their land-lord/slave-master/aristocrat/priest/etc/ for producing food, animal-stock, labour, services, etc, on land and shelter provided to them.

Getting rid of money is what the NWO order is about BUT in its place comes the quota system which is what is behind Michael Tellinger, Sasha Stone, Jacque Fresco, Mark Passio, David Icke, Jordan Maxwell and a cast of thousands of other Freemasonic controlled intel operatives working against everyone too stupid to realise what is really going on with the psyop programs making a mess of their lives.

Also, watch out for "ONE" anything as in one earth, one world, one consciousness, etc, as it is of the same NWO scam psyop programming seducing and leading duped rats following the Sasha Stone/David Icke Pied Pipers into the NWO of "oneness". LOLLLLLL

Same with words "intentional", "sustainable", "permaculture", "eco".

Everyone peddling this "one", "cashless", "no money", "intentional", etc, non-sense, have made their bed in "The System" and everything they do, think, feel, say, believe, etc, defaults to "The System" and all who are influenced by them make their bed in "The System" too. All their talk about freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, consciousness, do no harm, oneness, etc, is set in "The System". "The System" is always in the background. All slaves relate to "freedom", "consciousness", etc, in "The System" - never outside it which is what Kindom and and all the Love For Life insight work is all about.

Practising the 3rd party explanation/instruction/education/suggestion of a "freedom", "consciousness", etc, is SLAVERY. Bless the bleating hearts of the duped-sheeple; none are exercising/practising the essential free-will skills of a living freedom - all are broken wills practising/exercising slavery under the guise of "oneness", "freedom, "consciousness", etc. All are still sucking on the nipples of the freemasons private corporations, institutions, think tanks, utilities, services, philosophies, occults, esoterics, alphabets, mathematics, measurements/geometry, constructs, concepts, etc, telling them how to think, feel, act, dream, etc. All are still deeply brainwashed.

The ONLY remedy is NO system, no man-made system.

For more on all this, read the home page of the Love For Life website http://loveforlife.com.au and this thread "

The Satanic Craft Of Inculcation In Practice
Fiona's ACT Supreme Court Affidavit
Explaining Inculcation & Illumination"
4th March 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8578

and

The Psyop Program Behind Free Food And Permaculture
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
29th October 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8544

In diving deep into these webpages, you will come across many of the Love For Life videos, articles, debates, insights, discussions, etc, expanding on the big picture touched on in this comment.

Also, do check out this David Icke thread found on Arthur's Facebook wall: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10210014780474156

All the best to you and your family.
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

Link: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFg0Iw4ujjPHGKsiF4m5K2Q/discussion?lc=z...

18 August at 18:48

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Karl Grubmayr

Well said. Now how do you do it?

18 August at 19:32

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Arthur Cristian

If you want to see/sense the big picture we see/sense of "The System", what it really is and why duped-MAN continues remaining as an educated slave in it, and the Kindom remedy we live/stand/dream for, then do explore the list of Love For Life videos and articles provided in this comment...

Introduction To Kindom
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
6th March 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SspPm9wRgo

The Steps Of Kindom
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
2006-2007
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

Love For Life Homepage
http://loveforlife.com.au

The Satanic Craft Of Inculcation In Practice
Fiona's ACT Supreme Court Affidavit Explaining Inculcation & Illumination
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
4th March 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8578

Love For Life Food Forest & Native Garden
10th March 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-Uz8HmnSIM

From Bare Dirt To Abundance Part Three
7th March 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH9i8ZStzWI

From Bare Dirt To Abundance Part One
A Year In The Life Of The Love For Life Food Forest

15th February 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A

Dancing With Magic (Lies) Part One
Arthur & Fiona Cristian Love For Life
5th September 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx7qJ7r2OS4

Dancing With Magic (Lies) Part Two
Arthur & Fiona Cristian Love For Life
12th September 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_KuEFdKmnA

Dancing With Magic (Lies) Part Three
Arthur & Fiona Cristian Love For Life
13th September 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pJc1NfnAcI

Dancing With Magic (Lies) Part Four
Arthur & Fiona Cristian Love For Life
17th September 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSVURGwm1Go

IMAGE POWER
Superb Diamond Range Interviewing
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
4th February 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFnuuw3kLog

OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit Part One
Love For Life Arthur Cristian
27th February 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qjp_9nlrBao

OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit Part Two
Love For Life Arthur Cristian
28th February 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbybeOWZ-Bc

OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit Part Three
Love For Life Arthur Cristian
7th March 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOWoxH-HbVw

Trauma Induced Fantasy
Jeanice Barcelo Interviews Arthur & Fiona Cristian
11th July 2013
Uploaded 9th February 2014

Arthur & Fiona Cristian Interviewed By Jeanice Barcelo
6th March 2013
Uploaded 6th February 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZj7p0uwKxo

Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath) Part One
Arthur & Fiona cristian
Love For Life
9th February 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ze66_33wxM

Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath) Part Two
Arthur & Fiona cristian
Love For Life
11th February 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43gIi-sjxJc

Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath) Part Three
Arthur & Fiona cristian
Love For Life
11th February 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oooY6W63K-M

The Dream Of Life Part 6
Under The Spell Of Intellectual Property

Arthur Cristian
19th April 2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMK7CkU1ih8

Ben Lowrey Interviews Arthur Cristian
Love For Life - 8th February 2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH25tucSZSo

The "Name" Is The Mark Of The Beast
The Strawman Identifying Your Slave Status
In "The System"

Arthur Cristian
5th February 2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdOag66v7uo

The Dream Of Life Part One
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
21st October 2011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5O-S6wFgts

21st August 2016 10.55am

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Arthur Cristian

"The System" is fantasy and everything of it is fantasy.: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10210151558213514

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Frederick Malouf

Karl, the most effective way is to leverage crowdfinding over crowdfunding. Go direct to the people with a sustainable project that interests them and can support their needs in some way. People in the gifting community are gifted back; people outside pay. Connect food and tech and let the other sectors fit in as the need arises. I am looking at connecting with a farm south of Byron to do just that. Also a project in Mauritius where we only offer crowdfinding and leveraging status through creating sustainable excellence. The objective is to leverage what people want to do, not what they have to do. I have more info and a discussion forum here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thegifters/.

For the record, there are MANY people looking at transiting to gifting models, not needing any kind of quantified currency to exchange. So there is lots of info to sift through and deciding for yourself what works best. There is always a way if you have a good idea that people resonate with. Creating sustainable abundance through empowering people with the status of this is my way.

The Gifters
Frederick Malouf's photo.

Join Group
Public group
https://www.facebook.com/groups/thegifters

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Arthur Cristian

This thread clearly reveals why all forms of education is fucked. and must be stopped.......

Get rid Of Money posted this comment today in the Dancing With Magic (Lies) Part One Youtube video (see above comment for the link to these series of videos).....

"I think saying "David Icke, Michael Tellinger are all lying to you, they are all bullshit artists..." is going a bit extreme. They have good information, especially MT with his get rid of money idea. I still think that is our best solution, though I really like your don't react to trauma idea also... Your idea of having no system is a good one, though pretty vague. You need some rules, who will make decisions in a community, what will you do to replace money??"

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Arthur Cristian
21st August 2016 19:25

The deepest of deep sleep "states" is the one closest to truth. If you can't fully comprehend (sense) this fact then fantasy continues to plague you and your sense of reality continues being blurred.

"The System" is fantasy and everything of it is fantasy. The 3rd party explained/instructed/suggested/instructed thought of anything is a lie, is fantasy and is not you, not the living-dream expression of MANS unique original soul. The thought of consciousness, truth, freedom, rules, etc, is not the believers/re-presenters freedom, truth, consciousness, living dream of life.

The moment we explain anything to anyone we are lying, something that we all do chronically under "The System", because "The System" is built on the practice of this lying. The moment we ask a question, we are asking the answerer to lie and, in doing so, we are lying because we are attempting to incite a destructive reaction without providing our victims with full disclosure about our intention because we are so lost in fantasy that we don't realise that we are all doing it, the lying, that is. But even this fact is beyond most people's present comprehension. This practise of lying is so ingrained that we don't know how else to be.

Ever since those at the top started lying, all they have created is destruction while they get to have the cream of the wealth and riches. This is their order out of chaos that they started by invading the tribes of MAN on land everywhere. They brought chaos and then they provided the order to that chaos by bringing everyone together so that they could administer the chaos. This is what coming together is all about. Through the generations, since MAN started to lie, we have been coming together to perform to the order to our chaos, the fantasy we believe is reality and truth. Have you not noticed how chaos and destruction continues throughout all the generations of those who believe in this lie? Do you really want to keep listening to the lies of David Icke and Michael Tellinger, and a cast of thousands of liars manipulating everyone to come together again, across earth, as one. LOLLL.

It all comes down to sensing the intentions of those we are dealing with. Thoughts are dreams and every thought is encoded with the intention of its maker. In "The System", we have all been assimilated into the constructed image of another MAN'S dream, one that we did not create and is not unique and original to us. Then we get lost in the information highway of another MAN'S intent, which is the giving up of our soul, our unique, original dreams, falling into the state of fantasy that is the deep sleep.

We are lost in the circuit board of another MAN'S program, our lives defined by someone else with all the options determined by someone else's intention. This is why we wake up to the clock, live from the supermarket, sit in traffic jams, watch the movies, read their books, etc. This is prophecy in practise; the circuit board is self-fulfilling because we enter into it and are lost inside it, performing to the information highway paradigm it delivers because it was already laid out before we arrived there. This is religion, dogma, brain/thought control, etc. David Icke and Michael Tellinger are the continuation of this scam, it is just that their program is a "oneness, consciousness" program so it is not recognised for the program that it is......YET.

Lost inside the circuit board, you are in that deep sleep, believing that the program of that circuit board is the truth because it was explained to you. The circuit board is a matrix paradigm that has been constructed for you to step into. The circuit board is why you speak English, why you go to work, why you send your children to school and why you "come together" under the concepts and constructs of circuit board language. This "coming together" was already on their Freemasonic ships before they arrived on all the lands to decimate the tribes of MAN.

Running inside their program is the deep sleep and is fantasy and lying. The Freemasons worship coming together because this is how they get their power and control over everyone. Notice that this coming together is the god of destruction (chaos) that they worship. Their paradigm god tells some of them to be the good guys and to be the bad guys so that they come together to bring order to the chaos they engineered. This is the matrix/psyop-program-circuit-board they worship and this is where everyone exposed to their lying is trapped under a delusional state of fantasy and illusion.

The coming together of MAN was already planned well before everyone started coming together. LOLLLLLL. Their order to their chaos is this coming together. We are coming together for what? When we go to their schools, we are coming together, when we go to their shops we are coming together, when we pay their bills, we are coming together and when we go to their churches, we are coming together, when we go to Jesus, Allah, Buddha, Galactic Federation and Quantum Physics, we are coming together. When we go to David Icke and Micheal Tellinger, we are coming together. The free gifting economy is coming together too. Kindom is not about coming together. We have nothing to do with this coming together, though we were infected by it over the years until we learnt to unhinge from its effects/affects.

The thought of consciousness, truth, freedom, rules, etc, is not the believers/re-presenters freedom, truth, consciousness, living dream of life because all that is happening is that the believers are trapped inside the circuit board of nano-bot technology dressed with lots of non-sense (bullshit) including chemtrails and HAARP and all forms of bio-engineering to create a new type of I AM (MAN), the AM of MAN, as in AM/PM of the clock of the information highway we worship in this fake paradigm, "The System". The ante and post meridiem that is the before and after of a self fulfilling prophecy that is all predetermined because we are in the image of another MAN'S determination/dream. Coming together to form whatever type of gifting economy is this coming together scam in practise.

We keep coming together because we don't know who we really are because we did not create our unique, original dreams. The addiction to an economy is an addiction to weakness, powerlessness, directionlessness, hopelessness, etc, driven by the robotic programming of e-motion. When we are strong, we don't need to come together. We can choose to work alongside each other but we do not need to in order to be who we really are. We don't sell out because this is what coming together is all about.

Even though we explain when we write, our intent is to show others how they can unplug from the Freemasonic, psyop programming that keeps them locked in "The System" of I AM THAT I AM no matter how much they think they are working towards freedom, consciousness, truth, abundance, etc. Kindom is all about setting each other free from being underneath each other. We don't come together to solve a problem; we each live, be, the dream of freedom, peace, joy and abundance for all because we created it uniquely without anyone getting into our heads to create it, thus setting each other free from the grips of the Freemasonic paradigms they want us trapped in (WE WILL LEAD EVERY REVOLUTION AGAINST US is their mantra, the circuit board of MAN'S prison state).

When we come together under the programming of "The System", everything we do is based on the lie of our doubt and uncertainty that we have because we no longer remember who we really are, having given up the creation and expansion of a unique, original soul. Unless we sense the deep sleep we are in, we will continue coming together to lie to each other about a peace, or a freedom or a truth or a consciousness.

Coming together is a circuit board because any philosophy or think tank is an explained truth, freedom, etc. It is totally fake. Ever since MAN started lying, we have been coming together under "The System" of this coming together, but for what? We think that we are coming together for truth, freedom, etc, but actually, we are used and abused slaves who have given up their souls to be dominated by another MAN. We are all lost in fantasy.

This is the self-centredness that is the coming together to perform the lie, the greed, selfishness and all the ugly side of MAN. We perform the ritual of harm to who we really are, to our bodies, to our children, to our relationships, and in every area of our lives with MAN and Earth/Nature because we are the scum of that destruction in practise, the lust of clinging to survival that makes us do despicable things to maintain power and control over the fantasy/lie because it is all we have, all we have become. We have sold out everything else of who we really are.

We live to survive the lie (3rd party explanation/instruction/education/suggestion) of money, of family, of relationships, of sex, of shelter, food and water, of tomorrow, DESTROYING EVERYTHING AS WE DO IT (intimate or not), covering it all up with glistening wrappers of E-GO....... "hey notice me, I'm a nice guy", with my nice products, nice services, nice work, nice promises, nice smile, nice words, etc... How fucking sick it really is...... pathetic, pathological liars who really worship harm and have nothing really to do with do no harm.

All of it is in the circuit board of a fake paradigm. This is why we cling to the fear of doubt and uncertainty, unable to let go and be the living freedom we have each been gifted with. It is staggering to witness this sickness in every day life of "The System". We witness it constantly, all around us, and it comes very close to us, but again, this is beyond most people's present comprehension too.

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The Satanic Craft Of Inculcation In Practise
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
4th March 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8578

The Cristian Family November 2006

Illumination Is Inculcation

2nd March 2016

Below is an excerpt from the Love For Life website, explaining Inculcation and how it is used to form soulless men and women who have none of their unique, original dreams, instead living through the dreams provided for them by other men and women. It is vital that this is read and fully comprehended so that the following points are fully comprehended. While I recognise that there were defamatory comments written by Michael Borusiewicz about (Sanitised) on the Love For Life website, which were removed upon request, it is also true that (Sanitised) is involved in Satanic practices through his membership of the (Sanitised). Read the excerpt for a thorough explanation of how this works.

10. The fact is, the whole of "The System", the world we live in today, IS the satanic practice of murdering souls, of tearing them away from their unique, original dreams for the real life of the unique, original MAN and forcing them into compliance and obedience to a system of death to life through the practice of inculcation.

If a child has not created a unique, original dream of their free will and used its will power to set that living dream of their life into motion, where is the soul, the living dream of the child?

No uncorrupted grain of sand is the same as the next, no leaf, no insect, no stone, no drop of water. All are unique and original, never to be repeated. The same applies to everything of nature.

A child raised in nature, grows up with the inspiration from direct, sensory experience with all of nature around and without the thoughts (image power) of another MAN swirling around the child’s brain to hijack the child.

That image power is education, instruction, explanation and suggestion about whatever they are seeing/sensing of nature, the living dream of their life.

It is in the creation of the child’s unique, original dreams that we can see/sense the true intent of the life of the child. In “The System”, however, it is as if the child’s brain is a film projector that constantly projects all the third party system thoughts of image power, also known as illumination, that are put into the child’s brain from so very young.

There is almost no room for direct, sensory experience where the information of the purpose of the life of a sensory life form is shared with the child directly by the life form, without man-made, third party interference. If all that the child has are the dreams of other men and women, then the child is not creating a soul.

The child has been hijacked.

The images of the illumination that have been put into the child’s head are superimposed over direct, sensory experience with sensory life forms. If the child has not been provided with full disclosure as to what is going on, and is projecting and immersed in only third party illumination, then the soul of the child, the real life, is not there and instead, the intent of others, the dreams of others, is what the child is immersed in and creating a fake life out of.

All the trauma of this hijacking of the soul and the threats and intimidation tactics used are what result in court orders and fines, keeping men and women within the confines of the inculcation. Taxation, locking people up, taking children away, drugging people with medications because of “psychiatric” accusations, constant financial stress, etc, are all methods of intimidation used against us.

These intimidation tactics show that there is a clear intent to keep MAN under the affects of inculcation.

The incompetence of those under the affects of inculcation, the public, who are wards of the state under limited liability/responsibility, always makes way for those with the motives of power and control to continue manipulating everything to the benefit of their claimed higher standing. Those that they cannot control are removed, whether through assassination, financial ruin, the destruction of their character, intimidation or other tactics.

Those put in positions of power, supposedly because they care about freedom, rights, etc, are actually only there to make sure that we keep bowing to the inculcation.

They may think that they are outside the inculcation, as they have the power and control, but they are just as much under the affects of inculcation as those they control. The brush they use to destroy, destroys them also.

The claim of defamation is used in the same way. I am providing full disclosure here of exactly what is going on and, if it cannot be proved wrong, then everyone involved is admitting that they are complicit in this organised crime, even if this appeal is thrown out or no one admits anything.

We are not the problem.

We are not here to hurt anyone.

We are here to stop the harm.

The truth stands.

No matter how much those who benefit from inculcation try to protect it through the opinions of “experts” or through belief, faith and associated opinion, or by distorting and justifying it, or by ignoring it, the truth still stands. They are just using more inculcation to protect the practice of inculcation. The brush they use to protect inculcation is just more inculcation.

11. When the body of the life of a MAN has no soul, that MAN experiences depression, rage, loneliness, emptiness, helplessness, thoughts of suicide, arrogance, righteousness, insensitivity, coldness, etc. These are all the symptoms of a soul dying in the life of the body, fading out and out and out until all that remains is the darkness of inculcation of another MAN’S dream that possesses them. That fallen MAN is an empty vessel and no amount of system inculcation distraction can fill the void left by the soul. We don’t need inculcation to exist and neither does anything of nature.

12. Although the filing of this affidavit in the Supreme Court is inculcation, I do not intend to perform and place inculcation on anyone and this living soul does not invite anyone to perform inculcation on me and my family. Stopping the harm in all areas of life is what this is all about.

13. We all know that when we buy a chop or a steak, we are actually buying butchered Mary the Lamb, or Primrose the Cow, but we cover up the bloody murder by calling Mary the Lamb a "chop" and Primrose the Cow a "steak". Just because we call them chop and steak, does not mean that the brutal murder of Mary and Primrose has not happened, or that they gave us permission to kill and eat their bodies. We are just covering up the brutality that enables us to enjoy the tender, juicy meat on our plates.

But that brutality still occurred, no matter how we cover it up. If we wanted to turn things around and stop the murder of innocent animals, we could use the methods of inculcation to do so, flooding mainstream media with stories of the butchery practiced at abattoirs, of the animals lives up to and during their murder and of the fact that there is more and more evidence coming to light that animal proteins are very harmful to our bodies because we were never built to be carnivores. The meat industry would soon collapse very fast.

What we are showing here is that it is only through scrutiny that we can expose the truth and also what is wrong. This is what (Sanitised) is objecting to. Why else is he claiming defamation?

Through the intent of our real lives, in the Love For Life work, where have we lied about (Sanitised)? He claims to be protecting his reputation but that is a commercial enterprise, where he doesn’t have to prove anything, clearly shown by the demand for $10,000, originally $20,000. Commerce is in the public domain.

This claim of defamation is showing a hierarchical structure at play here, a dictatorship that doesn’t have to answer to anyone. The organized crime syndicate behind this protects their own.

If this isn't the case, then why doesn’t he have to prove the damage to his reputation by those he has accused?

Why should he not be scrutinised?

Why is the law of defamation structured so that up to 98% of Australians do not have the commercial resources to deal with it?

Why is the law intentionally structured so that opportunists can attack families at their weak points, and there are many thanks to inculcation, such as the lack of financial resources to pay fines, etc, resulting in immense stress being put on families and even the break-up of families under the stress of possibly having their household belongings and cars, etc, taken from them.

Families are destroyed by these methods.

It is clear how discrimination works, who really benefits, using the law and politics of inculcation in practice. This is why I am bringing all this to the attention of those in the Supreme Court. Again, I am being intimidated through inculcation and given enough evidence to push this information out into mainstream.

14. Anyone who supports the work of Aleister Crowley and Thelema, or any other religion, is clearly and incontrovertibly supporting the murder of souls because ALL religions practice inculcation and deny souls their unique, original dreams and the space to bring those dreams into being.

The same applies for ALL institutions in "The System", be they institutions of education, law, government, medicine, etc. The fact is, while we support "The System", we are all complicit in the murder of souls. The Love For Life work is all about inspiring others to stop turning a blind eye to the reality of death to souls and to have the determination to make whole what has been badly broken. We don’t run away from this because we have a legacy to provide for the descendants to come, a paradise future for our children and grandchildren. There is nothing else to live for so we are not going away.

15. The (Sanitised) stands for the murder of souls with its crafted inculcation practices behind all of its ties to the occults and esoterics. It has a big influence over the entertainment industry, as well depicted in mainstream, and provides no disclosure to those affected by it that their souls are being murdered through the use of inculcation.

16. We can call mountains steel, forests buildings and rock diamonds, but how long can we worship education (inculcation) before there is no more living earth, no more forests, no more mountains. We can call brainwashed MAN Christians, Muslims, Jews, Democrats, Republicans, Greeks, Punk Rockers, Geeks, New Agers, experts, academics, scientists, educators, politicians, lawyers, judges, priests, etc, but how long before there is no more living MAN because we have absolutely destroyed the whole of the living dream of life. We are already getting close as is obvious if we take a good look around.

The current, rampant destruction of Earth is all over the media, with key people in all areas saying that we need to change, so we have clear evidence that we are murderers.

This current destruction is the death of MAN’S soul being played out to the satanic symphony of inculcation. We may call it jobs, growth, economy, progress, cities, etc, but there is no doubt that there is an Earth wide crisis. Children are commonly dying before their parents and very few men and women are truly healthy. Species are becoming extinct daily and earth is becoming barren.

And yet we continue with our practice of inculcation and the murder of souls, celebrating as the progress of civilisation with fireworks for New Years Eve and the opening of the Olympic Games and other ceremonies of non-sense. We are all murderers but we don't want to look at it. Do we look out like Nero as Rome burns around us?

17. An organization such as the (Sanitised), that claims not to be Freemasonic but bears all the hallmarks of Freemasonry, inculcation practices, can easily be a hub for creating a new type of MAN using inculcation that becomes the new culture through music, film, fashion and other areas of the arts. The old version of fallen MAN is undressed and the new version brought forth.

This has happened many times over the history of "The System" and is happening today in preparation for the collapse of the current version of "The System" and the ushering in of the New World Order, the Oneness, consciousness, eco-friendly system touted as the remedy to the problems we all face under the current version of "The System", which is just another crafted version of inculcation in practice. We suspect that this is what is behind the (Sanitised) and the work of Aleister Crowley.

18. Inculcation exists only to create power and control. Freemasonry is the practice of inculcation and the key players behind the founding of all the major nations, countries and institutions have always been Freemasons.

From a tiny cabal, a few people can come up with inculcations that are used to form a fusion of a way of life that can be disseminated through the people and administered by those put in place to do so. Out of this comes a whole world of soulless men and women repeating thousands of inculcations daily.

And to achieve this, the souls of every man and woman had to be murdered while they were very young, because if they knew the consequences of what they were doing, and they remembered who they really were, they would stop and walk away. But most men and women have been so traumatised by the trauma of the ritual sacrifice of both souls and bodies pervading every aspect of "The System" that we breathe only trauma and cannot sense the lives of everyone who has lived that are in the water of our breath, if only we tune into them.

Inculcation teaches us to rely on non-sense, the illumination, and to ignore our senses, touch, taste, feel, smell, hear see, so that we forget who we really are and what we are really part of.

We have forgotten to create it.

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Arthur Cristian

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The Cristian Family November 2006

"The System" Sandpit

Imagine a sand pit with every grain of sand being a thought made up by another MAN. In the sand pit can also be found another MAN'S tools, buckets, shovels, etc.

Then we take innocent children and place them inside another MAN'S sand pit (invention) and we tell them to create their life-dreams ONLY out of what is provided for them in the sand-pit.

The children who grow up in the sandpit ("The System") only know what has been provided to them by another MAN.

The whole of their fake lives has been designed by another MAN, including relationships, lifestyles, values, views, interests, habits, needs, etc....

Not a single thought or e-motion they are thinking or reacting to (re---act---in = e-motion) has been uniquely created by them - none of them are original.

All children in the sand pit are being created in the image of another MAN.

They have all been hijacked.

All of them have been destroyed.

Every grain of sand in the sandpit is a "name" and every "name" is a system thought or idea that is explained to us through our system education. A, b, c, 1, 2, 3, is "name", supermarket is a "name" and everything on the shelves in the supermarket is a "name", as is EVERYTHING of "The System". The whole of our system lives are about "names" within "names" within "names", all of them explained to us and forced upon us as the only choices for our lives.

The whole of the sandpit is the Freemasonic/Satanic illumination of the holy spirit and the children raised up from the sandpit are possessed by the illumination of the holy ghost.

The Cristian Family November 2006

Shattered Reality

When we hold an innocent baby with smiling eyes in our arms , we are looking at the magnificence of MAN with everything MAN needs already built in. When we start to explain, instruct and educate our children over and over again about anything we are clearly telling them that they are not good enough to work things out in their unique, original ways. We are now insisting that they are not magnificent anymore and that they must have doubt and uncertainty about their magnificence for the rest of their damaged lives.

Our children grow up having immense doubt and uncertainty about who they really are and what they are really part of. Now, a shattered reality has formed in every aspect of our children's lives and this loss, this void of doubt and uncertainty becomes the well of destructive e-motions that rule us, the distrust, anger, greed, hatred, loneliness, fear, anxiety, etc, that compel us to fall into unnatural behaviour patterns that repeat and repeat and repeat throughout our pre-programmed lives, unless we wake up to them.

In the sandpit, the doubt and uncertainty becomes the void of MAN'S fallen "state" where a fake matrix world is being created in which we grow up constantly being told how to think, feel and act, just as a robot has a disc inserted with instructions on what to do. This is the fake life of everyone trapped in the sandpit. We are given our life purpose, our careers and our lifestyles - they are all handed to us on a plate for us to choose from, the myriad system choices giving us the illusion of freedom.

The remedy to all of this is Kindom.

The Cristian Family November 2006

Choosing The Sandpit

The grains of sand are all the thoughts of "The System" that we are given to build our system lives. None of them are natural to the dream of life; all of them are alien to who we really are and all of them are shattered from connection with the dream of life. The grains of sand that are our belief systems, our life styles, our races, colours and creeds, our statuses and standings have come between all of us, shattering our bonds as brothers and sisters of life so that we no longer naturally feel the connections between us and need the unnatural "oneness glue" that is the order of "The System" to keep us together because we have given up who we really are.

Instead of living the true virtues of unconditional love that is our natural order in the dream of life, we have become in-divide-u-alls (individuals) addicted to the sandpit and constantly defaulting to "The System" because that is all we know. Even if we think we want freedom, we keep defaulting to "The System" because our thoughts of freedom are system freedom thoughts that keep us defaulting back to "The System".

In our educated performance in the act of "The System" we accept these third party thoughts, ideas and authority figures. We accept Christianity, Buddhism, Judaism, Catholicism and New Age and they keep us loyal to "The System" and to the gods of "The System" that are the authority figures of whatever belief system we have chosen rather than being loyal to nature.

Behind all belief systems of "The System" is "The System" so, whatever we believe, all the power goes to those behind "The System". Because we need "The System" to protect us from each other, we give our power away to those who invaded our lives and taught us all this doubt and uncertainty in the first place. We have to be hijacked from unconditional love where we are all equal and we all raise each other up, so that we need the glue of "The System" and we raise the masters of "The System" above us and everyone else.

Our united belief is the "oneness glue" that binds us all together as the slaves to "The System" of our belief.

Our masters are very, very, very, very clever. They break us all down into in-divide-u-all-s and then they bind us all together as "one". LOLLLLL

We want freedom but we want freedom under "The System" in a different guise. We want peace but we want someone to tell us how to have peace. We want equality and fairness but we still want authority figures to maintain that equality and fairness. Our doubt and uncertainty about who we really are and about our ability to take full responsibility for our lives means that we want the New World Order (NWO) with its oneness glue of explained, educated, instructed consciousness, eco-friendly lifestyles, one religion, one language, one currency, one government, one law, one education, so that everything is taken care of and we still have a system of handouts, privileges and obligations but with new "names" and new packaging. There is nothing natural about the "oneness" of the NWO because there will still be an organisation of men and women behind it telling us how to think, feel and behave.

By becoming enchanted by all the information of the sandpit, we accept everything of the sandpit in our lives. Acclimatised to the harm of "The System" and addicted to the good bits of "The System", we keep on destroying who we really are, which is nature, the dream of life. Instead of living and being the natural order of unconditional love, we live in the fake system of a "oneness order" imposed upon us because we have too much doubt and uncertainty in our magnificence to take full responsibility for caring for the lives of those around us so that our lives are taken care of too.

The Cristian Family November 2006

Behind The Sandpit

The organisation behind the sandpit is the Freemasonic/Satanic world. Freemasons and their organised intelligence networks hide behind race, culture, creed, careers, titles, standings, philosophies and beliefs, and from there they attack their fellow MAN, serving their brotherhoods and sisterhoods rather than the virtues of unconditional love. Once they rise up above the show pony, benevolent levels, they go through secret initiations where they promise under oaths of death and destruction to give loyalty to their brotherhoods and sisterhoods over their families, other loved ones, career, titles, standings, race, culture, creed, etc.

We are all tribes/families of MAN on land who have become caught up in race, culture creed, titles, standings, etc, leading to the conflict of this Freemasonic engineered chaos because they are the Jews that fight the Christians and the Christians that fight the Jews, leading everyone who believes they are Christians and Jews to follow along under the power and control of "The System" that the Freemasonic brotherhoods and sisterhoods serve.

The ONLY intention behind the Freemasonic/Satanic world with all its Intel networks is to attack all of MAN'S virtues of love and never stop attacking this unconditional love of MAN. As we reel from the trauma of these constant attacks on who we really are and life becomes more and more difficult with more and more of us struggling just to keep a roof over our heads and food on the tables for our families, with more sickness and disease affecting all of us, more war, famine, poverty, violence and conflict between us the Freemasonic/Satanic networks will offer their remedy to this present, organised/engineered chaos of MANS fallen "state", where MAN continues setting doubt and uncertainty into motion, which will just be "The System" under another guise.

They are bringing us to our knees so that we eagerly accept whatever they offer us because it will seem to offer the solution to all our problems. Their contrived, predetermined, fake remedy will smell like roses with its oneness, consciousness, eco-friendly, fair, feel good/feel god, benevolent façade but it will be an unnatural way of life that remains conditional and it will run as a "quota system", a cashless world where everyone is still answerable, is still underneath another MAN and still living a shattered reality. Access to food and privileges will depend on quota fulfilment and acquiescence to the rules of the Star Trek-like Federation. Microchips, iris detection or thumb prints (or some other detection method) will be our entry to supermarkets, living quarters, etc, and, if we haven't met our quotas, access will be denied.

This is serfdom, with everyone tithing to the networks of Freemasons/Satanists in power behind the Federation. This New World Order (NWO) Federation works no differently to the system of commoner and serf slaves lost to an organised network of Land Lords, Land Barons, Aristocracy, Kings, Queens, Counts, Dukes, Princes and High Priests in control over all the lands where they resided.

This NWO (One World Government, Law, Religion, Education, Enforcement, etc) will be a way of life without the virtues of unconditional love. "The System" of MAN'S shattered reality remains. As fallen-MAN, Christian, Jew, Liberal, Labour, Atheist, Democrat, Republican, Alternative, "Conscious", New Ager, etc, etc, we remain glued to this unnatural way of life because MAN'S natural bonds to the wholeness of nature are still shattered. We are still fighting with each other over everything, we are still in conflict, still trapped in the shattered reality, the sandpit. The co-creation of Kindom is critical because Kindom inspires MAN to completely walk away from "The System" of slavery that is the conflict of the sandpit in this life, never to return.

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As for remedy see the comment posted above containing links to many Love For Life videos and articles, etc........

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TEDxUNSW PITCH - THE HUMAN SPECTRUM by Frederick Malouf
3rd May 2016

Dr Vandana Shiva - Planet on a Plate Q&A - Frederick Malouf

Frederick Malouf @ Timebeats on Meera Allen's show Manifesting Destiny! :)
Meera Allen, the supercool ethereal amazing woman who speaks from her heart every moment, interviewed me on her new show Manifesting Destiny, every Sunday fortnight between 10am-12pm on Bondi Beach Radio. We spoke about Timebeats (the currency) and the full meaning of change it will present. I can confirm that people LOVE the concept, so I am work on the full idea of communicating it as best as I can for more people to get it, use it, make it, be it! :) YEAH!
Would love your feedback on it. Go for it! :)

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Arthur Cristian

The ONLY remedy is NO system, no man-made system.

For more on all this, read the Home Page of the Love For Life Website http://loveforlife.com.au and this thread "The Satanic Craft Of Inculcation In Practice - Fiona's ACT Supreme Court Affidavit Explaining Inculcation & Illumination" - 4th March 2016 http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8578 and "The Psyop Program Behind Free Food And Permaculture" 29th October 2014 http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8544

In diving deep into these webpages, you will come across many of the Love For Life videos, articles, debates, insights, discussions, etc, expanding on the big picture touched on in this comment. Also, do check out this David Icke thread found on Arthur's Facebook wall: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10210014780474156

All the best to you and your family.
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

Link: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFg0Iw4ujjPHGKsiF4m5K2Q/discussion?lc=z...

Dancing With Magic Part One
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
5th September 2015
https://youtu.be/hx7qJ7r2OS4

Dancing With Magic Part Two
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
12th September 2015
https://youtu.be/b_KuEFdKmnA

Dancing With Magic Part Three
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
13th September 2015
https://youtu.be/9pJc1NfnAcI

Dancing With Magic (Lies) Part Four:
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
16th September 2015
https://youtu.be/kSVURGwm1Go

IMAGE POWER
Superb Diamond Range Interviewing
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - 4th February 2014
180 Minutes
http://youtu.be/qFnuuw3kLog
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8501

The Dark Side Of The Moon
The Background To "The System" Part One

Arthur & Fiona Cristian Interviewed By
Jahnick Leaunier, The Tru-Mon Show
24th August 2016
Love For Life - 142 Minutes
https://youtu.be/C5TViw1NLr4

Eric Dubay's Flat Earth Is A Cult
The Background To The System Part Two

Arthur & Fiona Cristian Interviewed By
Jahnick Leaunier, The Tru-Mon Show
Love For Life - 154 Minutes
31st August 2016
https://youtu.be/rCPWgEQg-2M

The Cristian Family November 2006

Eric Dubay's Flat Earth Is A Cult
The Background To The System Part 2


Arthur & Fiona Cristian
31st August 2016
154 Minutes
https://youtu.be/rCPWgEQg-2M
Arthur & Fiona Cristian chatting with Jahnick Leaunier of The Tru-Mon Show, 31st August 2016. In this video Arthur & Fiona discuss how the psyop programming that we experience from very young conditions us to accept all the "Good Guys" of "The System" leading us toward the New World Order. They discuss the trauma rituals behind the alphabet languages and how that trauma resonates throughout everything that we think, feel and do, dumbing down our senses so that we are able to watch and participate in endless harm doing with complacency. Arthur & Fiona show how measurement (Freemasonic/Occultic/Satanic compass & square = a, b, c, 1, 2, 3) defines and therefore divides (DESTROYS) everything of life, leading us to think that there is separation between us and life, and life and life, which is how we are able to fall for and believe in the Flat Earth theory. They show how measurement is death and destruction to reality/life/MAN/MAN'S Nature/Earth/Creation.


Eric Dubay

They show how all those in the public eye who claim to be showing us the way to truth and freedom are actually ushering us towards the New World Order OF DEATH AND DESTRUCTION TO MAN AND MAN'S EARTH and we are accepting it because we are still not willing to take full responsibility for our real lives. Arthur & Fiona also talk about how children are infected with the inculcation of "The System" before they are even conceived and how this leads them to doubting who they really are and their magnificence, leading to death and destruction.
https://youtu.be/rCPWgEQg-2M

For those interested in exploring the Love For Life (LFL) insight work further, go to the home page of the LFL website http://loveforlife.com.au and to "The Satanic Craft Of Inculcation In Practice" http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8578 and also watch all the videos and other articles listed below. There are many more to be explored in the YouTube channel and on all the Facebook walls we use. Collectively, they provide a window into the big picture we see/sense of "The System" and the trauma that keeps MAN trapped in "The System". Until we finish the free Love For Life e-book that we are working on, this is where all the most recent and relevant insights are to be found. When the e-book is finished, announcements will be posted on the website, Facebook and YouTube.

The Dark Side Of The Moon
The Background To "The System" Part One

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5TViw1NLr4

Eric Dubay's Flat Earth Movement Is A Cult
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
27th August 2016 Onwards
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8585
A discussion into the psyop program of flat earth

Invasion Of Australia And New Zealand?
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
30th November 2009
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7040

One Child Policy = One Million Strong
Chinese Army Orchestrated By The
Satanists For Their End-Times Pantomime

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
25th March 2010
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7274

The Satanic Craft Of Inculcation In Practice
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
4th March 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8578

The Steps Of Kindom
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life 2006/2007
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

His-Story/Her-Story (History)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
2005-2007 - Re-posted July 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8529

Darkness Visible Part Five
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
24th January 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8562

IMAGE POWER
Superb Diamond Range Interviewing
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
4th February 2014
180 Minutes
http://youtu.be/qFnuuw3kLog

Dancing With Magic (Lies)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
5th to 17th September 2015
Part One: https://youtu.be/hx7qJ7r2OS4 118 Minutes

Part Two: https://youtu.be/b_KuEFdKmnA 94 Minutes

Part Three: https://youtu.be/9pJc1NfnAcI 114 Minutes

Part Four: https://youtu.be/kSVURGwm1Go 106 Minutes

The Dream Of Life Part 6
Under The Spell Of Intellectual Property

Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
19th April 2012 - 51 Minutes 52 Seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMK7CkU1ih8

OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
27th February 2013 to 7th March 2013
Part One: http://youtu.be/Qjp_9nlrBao 106 Minutes

Part Two: http://youtu.be/tbybeOWZ-Bc 56 Minutes

Part Three: http://youtu.be/yOWoxH-HbVw 115 Minutes

Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
9th to 11th February 2013
Part One: http://youtu.be/4ze66_33wxM - 70 Minutes 5 Seconds

Part Two: http://youtu.be/43gIi-sjxJc - 81 Minutes 13 Seconds

Part Three: http://youtu.be/oooY6W63K-M - 70 Minutes 18 Seconds

Introduction To Kindom
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
6th March 2015
63 Minutes
https://youtu.be/7SspPm9wRgo

From Bare Dirt To Abundance Part One
A Year In The Life Of The
Love For Life Food Forest

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
15th February 2013
52 Minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A

Love For Life Food Forest & Native Garden
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
10th March 2016
15 minutes
https://youtu.be/y-Uz8HmnSIM

From Bare Dirt To Abundance Part Three
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
7th March 2016 - 60 Minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH9i8ZStzWI

The Dream Of Life Part One
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
21st October 2011
63 Minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5O-S6wFgts

The Cristian Family November 2006

Eric Dubay's Flat Earth Movement Is A Cult
This Thread Explains How And Why


Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

26th August 2016

Link: https://www.facebook.com/ali.dohadwala/posts/10154595600459789

Near the end of this Facebook discussion

Ali Dohadwala replied:

What topic do you want to discuss? If your aim is to debunk the FE reality then you must provide your proofs and let the public determine their validity. If they are self evident then I am sure you can lure away all "Eric's followers" which seems to be your intent.


Eric Dubay

So instead of acting self righteous and taunting Eric why don't you just let your work speak for itself.

It is obvious to me that your pseudo science holds no weight and is being ignored by critical thinkers. If you came on this thread to preach your gospel of truth then you have succeeded. Drop all your research links here and let the public scrutinize your claims. Peace.

1 hr

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Arthur Cristian

Ali said, "provide your proofs and let the public determine their validity." So here are our proofs.

Lies create the cults of fantasy. Believers in fantasy are the duped clinging to lies as their only form of "reality-salvation" to the chaos, harm, doubt, uncertainty, deceit, fear, fantasy, illusion and delusion they are experiencing and enduring.

It has been this way since the inculcation of psyop programming manipulation practices were implemented as a Satanic craft to control others through trauma and reactions to trauma, conning them into projecting pseudoscience images to create make believe worlds to live in and be ruled by those who invented inculcation and pseudoscience.

Inculcation occurs ONLY through the sinister forms (delivery mechanisms) of trauma based myths, fables, fairytales, 3rd party indoctrination, brainwashing and expert commentary (education/instruction/explanation/suggestion) because they only happened amongst the victims of war, invasion and decimation and those who conquered them.

Wherever you find these myths and lores, you also find that they are rooted in the history of war and terror, the trauma that everyone is reacting to, thanks to the manipulation of inculcation and pseudoscience that imprisons them in "The System". This is what forms "The System", which is Ancient Egypt, Greece, Rome, etc. All the ancient civilisations bear the mark of this manipulation upon the people trapped in them.

The fanaticism of Christianity is set against the backdrop of "The System" so that all the fanatics of Christianity are trapped in "The System" of the church controlled by the priests who are really the practising occultists of Freemasonry. The same happens with Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, atheism, the New Age, quantum physics, Flat Earth, etc, etc. If you think that this is not the case with FE, then you are a deeply brainwashed fanatic, which is one of the reasons why we want to debate with Eric. We would like to draw him out into the big picture and see where he goes. :)

The craft of Freemasonic occults (oc---cults) and esoterics (esssss ooooo terror i csssss) is practised ONLY through the pseudoscience of measurements, the compass & square. Levels, dimensions, planes, lines, circles, squares, pyramids, angles, etc, are all illusions, make believe projections superimposed over reality by fanatics, forming the pseudoscience communication of fantasy, "The System", ruling over reality, which is what Eric is totally reliant on to peddle the FE theory.

Out of this comes all the technology, that is all lineal because it is fantasy and a lie. If it was non-lineal, it wouldn't need the third party explanation of a third party measurement because the truth of it is already there; its presence is already present amongst the living. Truth stands, is evident to the living and doesn't need to be explained to the living. There is full disclosure of the truth. This is reality.

There is no full disclosure with lineal measurements because there are secrets; measurements dissect, divide and carve up the big picture so that it is lost because we focus on the measurements rather than on the big picture of reality that has been dissected. This becomes a shattered reality. Just as there is more to the elephant than just a tail, and more to the forest than just a tree, there is more to earth than the measurements we are taught to describe earth with.

However, when we are blindfolded, and all we feel is the tail of the elephant, we can easily believe that the tail is all there is to the elephant, if we don't continue exploring the elephant to get the bigger picture. Measurements blindfold us, which is why we use scrutiny to get behind the brainwashing of measurement and expose the bigger picture that has been buried under all the occultic bullshit. We have formed a fake sense of belonging with measurements that define the fake lives we form in "The System" of this pseudoscience that are the evidence of our fanaticism. We are so deeply in love with the lie of reality-salvation.

What we have to realise is that very, very few men and women across earth, if any, will have had full exposure to the true nature of earth. The rest of us have been blindfolded, just as those exploring an elephant for the first time while blindfolded will only get a picture of the part of the elephant we feel, be it the tail, ear, foot, trunk, etc.

Through the pounding of system pseudoscience from so early in life, we have been told that earth is a planet, is round, spins, is part of a solar system, is in a galaxy and a universe defined by objects of measurement, etc, and we have been practising this storytelling of pseudoscience imagery for so long that it is all we see, a whole matrix of varying lines of measurements superimposed over everything in every way possible so that we lose our connection with reality.

The fake identity that we all practise in "The System" is set to and defined by this background of pseudoscience. All fanaticism comes out of this because this is all they have got to make them fanatics. Wherever we are congregating as family or friends, at work, studies or play, we have been defined by pseudoscience, thinking that this is who we really are, addicted to its constructs and definitions. Everything of race, culture, creed, titles and standings is this, commerce, philosophies, sport, fashion, nightlife, movies, romances, etc, all come out of this - it has all been defined.

Because pseudoscience is the background to our fake, system lives, it is always before us because we are constantly drawing from and projecting it, paving the Yellow Brick Road paths that we walk down. We dream it, think it, live it and sleep it. The ocCULTists have been successful in their quest to create a robot out of all of MAN.

All of this has been done through ocCULTic measurements so that we think that the earth ends at the surface of earth, and is defined by the measurements of atmosphere, stratosphere, ionosphere, etc. All the distances between earth and the sun and the moon, etc, are measured to and from the surface of the earth because we have accepted that earth ends here and space, with all its celestial bodies, begins from above the surface of earth.

When we don't see (sense) beyond the measurements, what we do not sense remains secret because we are blind to it, lost to the non-sense, the darkness where the light of full disclosure of the big picture is not present. We are boxed into the thinking of the definitions that are formed out of the measurements of pseudoscience, which are all the alphabet thoughts in our heads. The illusion of our life in "The System" is the imagining of pseudoscience that we believe to be true.

This is why we were all exposed to the occultist's education of pseudoscience alphabet thoughts in our heads and why we are exposed to the reactions to trauma that manipulate us into projecting these make believe images (pseudoscience) of "The System". A, b, c, 1, 2, 3, do not exist and neither does any word, sentence, paragraph, con-cept, con-struct, etc, coming out of it. It is all fantasy, pseudoscience, and the whole of the imagining of the FE theory comes out of this shit. But hey, when you are a fanatic, you ignore this fact because you don't want to destroy the fantasy bubble of your belief that you have built your fake identity out of. You love the illusion (e-go) more than reality.

Flat earth has been defined by the same craft of Freemasonic measurements, pseudoscience, and there is a sinister reason for this. This is what Eric is using to promote his theory of a flat earth. Everything of uncorrupted nature that we see with our eyes, including celestial bodies, is true, is evident, but everything that has been explained to us about what we see is not. Our brains have been discombobulated and mesmerised by this pseudoscience measurement, forming the cult of flat earth as part of the cult of "The System".

When we look at what exists of reality through a microscope, telescope or any other instrument, none of the thoughts that we are thinking are coming from what we are observing and neither are they coming from the equipment/prosthetics that we are using. The same applies to everything that we are reading, watching or listening to - none of the thoughts we are thinking about what we are reading, watching or listening to are coming from what we are reading, watching or listening to.

Eric is relying on lots of pseudoscience equipment but none of the thoughts he is thinking or claiming as proof of his flat earth argument are coming from the equipment. He can't bring the equipment forward to tell us, first party to first party, what it sees without another MAN coming forward to use the pseudoscience ritual to explain it all to us on its behalf using the pseudoscience of alphabets to form the make-believe communication of letters and words that also have nothing to do with what is being observed.


Eric Dubay & Girlfriend

All he is doing is relying on the fanaticism of pseudoscience in everyone and manipulating it so that they project and bond with the FE imagery he provides, believing that what they are seeing through the imaginings of pseudoscience is true. They bond because they are fanatics of pseudoscience because they see everything in their image like that. "In the beginning was the word (pseudoscience) and the word was God"; this is the basis of fanaticism where pseudoscience has been raised as the God of the believers because that is all they see. Everything they think, feel, act and create is in the image of pseudoscience, causing them to forsake their soul. Refer to "The Satanic Craft Of Inculcation In Practise" and the Love For Life videos mentioned.

It is the non-sensory alphabets and words that Eric uses to explain his theories and they are all tools of the occultic (Satanic/Freemasonic) craft that keep us trapped in the image power (pseudoscience) of those who invented and rely on these tools of imagining to keep us trapped and to create cults of believers of this pseudoscience. Eric is also the result of brainwashing into the occults of pseudoscience, just as the ancestors of all Freemasonic occultists (worshippers of black magic) were also brainwashed by the founding father of occultic practices. It is clear who Eric's master is.

This brainwashing goes right back to early life, when we were all forced to project these ocCULTic images to create the make-believe world ("The System") that they want us to create in their image as the rats following these pied pipers, forever serving the rules, conditions, contracts and belief systems of this re-legion (the cult).

This is why we have been subjected to this brainwashing and why the occultists continue to manipulate us into being compelled to project the images of a fake version of reality that they scripted long ago, and to which they brainwashed our ancestors, who passed it on to us. They get us to talk their pseudoscience language because then we create the occultic world in the image of that pseudoscience language. They manipulate the trauma so that we perform the pseudoscience rituals of the constructs. They need us to perform to raise up the matrix out of MAN and MAN'S nature, not realising the consequences of the devastation to reality needed to do so.

Eric has created a cult and all those trapped in the cult are fanatics. This is what is sinister about Eric's work.

Just as we perform for the Police Officer who pulls us over by producing our licence on his demand, compelled by the fear of what may happen to us if we do not, so we perform to the backdrop of pseudoscience, because of the fear of finding out that we have been lied to and that our cosy world is not as it seems. We do not want to know if we have based our lives on truth or lies. When we do this, we give our power to the occultists to rule us and control us because our wills have been broken.

When we rely on pseudoscience we cannot see (SENSE) the big picture because we are lost in the measurements of non-sense, the fantasy of reality-salvation against the horror of all the trauma. The same mumbo jumbo that was used to con our ancestors into accepting the lores and myths of earlier recorded history, is the same pseudoscience non-sense being used to peddle the theory of flat earth. Eric is relying on this pseudoscience to form his flat earth theory. We have all been smashed by this.

Again, watch the videos "The Dark Side Of The Moon - The Background To "The System", "Image Power" and "the "Dancing With Magic" series", and read "The Satanic Craft Of Inculcation In Practise", including the comments section. This work goes more deeply into the trauma behind all the myths and lores and how the trauma is manipulated to make us not want to see the big picture but to remain lost the the measurements living our lives out of them as the result of our broken wills.

The tree does not need to be explained to the child because the presence of its life is already present to the child. When we explain something to the child, we are forming measurements of pseudoscience for the child so that the child can't see the big picture anymore because its head is swimming with all the pseudoscience and projecting that, the matrix. Now the child is lost in non-sense.

We are not saying that part of earth is not flat, just as the elephant has a tail. But there is a much bigger picture of earth that we lose when our heads are swimming with pseudoscience. With pseudoscience, it is easy to think that the elephant is just the tail, just the ears. As the saying goes, you can't see the wood for the trees.

To break through the walls of fanaticism, we repeat: when we rely on pseudoscience, we become lost in the inculcation practices of a, b, c, 1, 2, 3, becoming the robotic drones that carry out the story of measurements that define our fake reality, reliant on mathematics and geometry to form the spelling (hypnotic suggestions) of alphabet imagery. The English world is this, as are all other alphabet languages which are used to record the lies of 3rd party his-story/her-story (history) of the make-believe matrix.

Alphabets are fantasy and their letters and words forms the basis of all pseudoscience which FE is totally reliant on. Without pseudoscience there would be no FE storytelling going on. Believing in anything of pseudoscience is to bring the whole of pseudoscience with it, which is what Eric the occultist and all the Freemasonic occultists who are his masters are relying on. When we accept FE, we accept the whole of "The System" matrix that FE come out of. If you can't see how Eric is messing with your head, you are gone.

These large systems of organised lies, the cults of civilisations ("The System") coordinated by a crime syndicate, have always been housed in libraries full of 3rd party literature to uphold the fake version of reality with all its fanfare, laws, customs, etc. They always show up as a deeply complex maze of mysteries forming a brilliantly crafted rabbit warren to keep the duped forever lost with no escape or respite for them and their descendants. This is what is happening with FE movement too.

Education is compulsory because they do not want anyone to break away from the black magic spelling of their pseudoscience.

All Eric has is the third party letters and words forming story lines of measurement explanations reliant on third party expert commentators using third party prosthetics/devices to perform the staged act of FE world. There is no living first party to first party sensory life form coming forward as FE, outside the grip of pseudoscience, to back the claims of the third party expert commentators reliant on pseudoscience (black-magic) to con and deceive the gullible into believing what is being "sold" to them.

Ali, our questions and insights are not reliant on lineal technologies, constructs and concepts such as but not limited to 3rd party words, letters, stories, performances, equipment, etc, to bring about the Love For Life insight work we do because that would be pseudoscience. We just use our brains to make sense of all the pseudoscience non-sense and that's it.

The Flat earth movement is hell reliant on pseudoscience to forge all the bullshit it peddles as fodder to the duped. Your claims clearly reveal that you are lying and committing slander and fraud Ali. You have accused us of peddling pseudoscience but you are the one doing that, as clearly revealed in this thread and many of the posts on your Facebook. You are a member of the FE cult, and you admit it.

We are not making the claims reliant on pseudoscience here to uphold pseudoscience. We are not cult followers of pseudoscience. We are just challenging all the claims made by the FEarther's. The Kindom remedy we promote is all about getting away from pseudoscience and returning to direct sensory experience with nature so that nature (reality) is the backdrop of our lives and not pseudoscience. We live to destroy all forms of pseudoscience because it brings darkness to the living light of MAN'S soul.

There are no smoke and mirror games to be found amongst our repertoire. We have no need for such arsenal to gain a hold over the "minds" of the people. Only cult leaders would do such despicable things. It is just Fiona and Arthur here, a simple everyday family with simple everyday needs living simple everyday lives. We don't re-present others - only oc-cult leaders/practitioners do this.

We are addressing Eric D here, ONLY Eric D, we are not focused on others.

Why are you so concerned about others and what they think? Can you not allow others the freedom to come to their own conclusions without trying to influence them, which you do when you say, "So instead of acting self righteous and taunting Eric why don't you just let your work speak for itself. It is obvious to me that your pseudo science holds no weight and is being ignored by critical thinkers. If you came on this thread to preach your gospel of truth then you have succeeded. Drop all your research links here and let the public scrutinize your claims. Peace."

Who are you to make claims about what "critical thinkers" are doing? Please bring forward these critical thinkers, free of pseudoscience, so that they can tell us, first party to first party that they are ignoring our work. Thinking that you are a critical thinker whilst under the influence of pseudoscience is more evidence of delusion.

As for "Peace", we don't sense any peace coming from you because you have taken on the stance of an act of war against us but you are too gutless to come out into the open and say it. The peace is just a nice guy front to the antagonism you feel from what we say, which shows that you are not sincere in your search for truth. You are only interested in information that fits into your pseudoscience model.

This is why we are laying out very clearly for you in a detailed, full disclosure reply, in conjunction with what we have already written in this thread to provide you with the big picture so you can see clearly what Eric is doing to your brain and the brains of everyone else caught up in FE. Anyone reading this can wake up to the mockery that is being made of their lives by Eric and those like him.

It is not the critical thinkers who are afraid to look at our work - it is those who are afraid to have what they believe in exposed as lies because of the humiliation to their pride, arrogance and righteousness. If we are at all sincere in going where the truth takes us, we must be prepared to have the lies we believe in exposed again and again and again until there are no more lies or liars.

Don't forget it was you who approached us to have a FB friendship with you and it was you who drew us on to your FB wall and now you are deeply concerned about others on your FB wall being exposed to simple everyday Fiona and Arthur, when the fact is we are ONLY focused on Eric and no one else, no disrespect to you or anyone else, it is just that Eric is the one who has been turned into the figurehead of FE. Refer to our first post in this thread for evidence.

We need ONLY a mouth, tongue, fingers, brains and sense to ask all the questions we seek Eric to answer, no pseudoscience required. Eric continues running away from us. Just blocks FB friendships with us.

Occultists only give us enough of the truth for us to trust them, but not enough that they lose power and control over you. This is how they manipulate us. To us, Eric has been initiated into the secrets of the occults for a long time, as revealed in his work for many years. He reveals the secrets of his predecessors, the Bad Guys, so that he is seen as the Good Guy by all the fanatics who have been duped but then he uses the same inculcation methods on those who have learnt to trust him and let him close to them. The pseudoscience destroys them all.

The greatest lies and liars are the ones closest to the truth - they cause the greatest damage of all because others learn to trust them. This goes back to what we are saying about how the duped lose sight of the big picture because they trust their occultic sorcerer, thinking they are in good hands. The wolves have got the lambs right where they want them. This is a classic cointel, psyop program used by occultists across their recorded ages.

"We will lead every revolution against us".

The blind are leading the blind.

Eric Dubuy is creating a cult of the flat earth movement. He is using and relying on the same ocCULTic practices of those who formed the cult of "The System" to bring about another cult, another version of "The System" under another guise but still a cult. We and all those before us have been brainwashed into the cult of "The System" and now we are being prepared to accept another version of the cult and you want to protect Eric from us?

You go to the extremes of using slander to push us away from this wall, as if we are a threat, when all we are is a simple family who don't want the four daughters we love and are responsible for to be forced into a way of thinking through peer pressure, which is all about discrimination and censorship, leading them to being dragged into enslavement in another cult, the New World Order, set to the pseudoscience rituals of calendars, days, weeks, months, years, seasons, celebration days, etc, that keep everyone trapped in it.

You may not see some of this now but the face of the next version of "The System" will reveal its ugly head as the occultists push forward to fulfill their agenda.

We are asking everyone who reads this to observe how this occultic practise is working in their heads. The collective generations of occultists behind their evolution of "The System" we are trapped in and waking up to today, lied about earth being round to build up the history of their pseudoscience lies that enslave everyone into the confines of "The System" because they are all fanatics to the pseudoscience they worship, which comes in many guises.

They are now allowing some of the truth to come out, tinkering with their pseudoscience to further mess with the slaves to change the way they think in readiness for their entry into the new cage. They are the cowboys prodding the cattle to make them move in the direction required, the electric shock being the reaction to the trauma as they discover they have been lied to.

When we recognise the adapted truth of pseudoscience being revealed, we are conned into trusting the pied pipers of prophetic disclosure like Eric so that we stupidly follow them to the New World Order of pseudoscience because we are still attached to and projecting the images of pseudoscience fanaticism pulling us in another direction but still inside the cage of pseudoscience, unaware of the inculcation working inside our heads.

This is a collective effort by thousands of practising occultist pied pipers to bring about the collective manipulation of image projection to create the New World Order. We have to learn to trust them so that their manipulation continues to work on us and we will do anything to create the world in the image of the cult idols we worship as fanatics.

All Freemasons practising the occults are sinister. The prophecies they want fulfilled require immense death and destruction to MAN and MAN'S dream of life. Refer to the Love For Life links for more on all this.

http://www.interestingfactsfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Sheer-Nucl...

https://www.askideas.com/media/78/Awesome-Black-Tree-Of-Life-Tattoo-Desi...

Ali, as we said earlier, the whole of creation including the celestial bodies is Earth and to us is the true shape of earth/life/creation. We are addressing the synergy of wholeness, no defined exclusions. A bird is not defined by a bird; the bird is defined by the whole of creation for without it there would be no bird. Earth is defined by the whole of creation, just as we are. Nothing of creation/nature can exist without the wholeness, the full disclosure, of creation/nature for everything to be what it is.

To us we sense that the shape of the tree of life and the mushroom shape of an atomic explosion is closer to what the living shape of creation/earth/MAN'S dream of life looks like. Forget the explosion and just look at the shape. The mushroom is the water firmament containing all the celestial bodies hanging, suspended over the "land" we walk on which is inside the mushroom head below the firmament. The stem of the mushroom/tree of life is the eternal expansion of MAN'S consciousness that forms the land we stand on.

A child in the womb is surrounded by water and all of creation is water. Ether is water, mist is water. There is no dust in space - all is water, the breath of MAN'S consciousness. It is quite possible that the whole of the firmament, the mushroom head, embraces all of creation, completely surrounding us, which is why the stars move across the sky and why we have night and day.

The crazy occultists destroyed the firmament, which is reforming but this is being hindered by the chemtrails, HAARP, etc, and other heavy metals, mould, fungus, nano-bots, toxins and poisons in the firmament. This is like trying to stop consciousness expanding; imagine trying to stop your brain from growing, so to speak. To keep it at a pea size instead of a watermelon.

When we see earth/nature as a synergistic whole, we can see that it is not possible to harm just one part of earth; the harm of any part of earth/nature is harm to the synergistic whole, hence the need to DO NO HARM. The FE theory denies the magnificence of the whole of MAN'S consciousness and, when we let it all reform, the natural colours of MAN'S magnificence will re-appear in the firmament. As MAN stops lying, everything naturally around us will change because we are changing and expanding consciousness magnificently.

The whole of the dream of life is who we really are (the video "The Dark Side Of The Moon" goes into this). By messing with the dream of life, we are messing with everyone. The whole of creation is MAN'S living consciousness but the occultists are trying to diminish the expansion of MAN'S magnificence. Who we really are does not end at the surface of our skin. The occultist are idiots if they think they will not be affected. They worship death and they are playing with the death of MAN'S consciousness because that is what has become of them, which is why they lie.

We are not saying that the mushroom shape is exactly like it is but this seems to be much closer to the living magnificence of who we really are than just a flat earth, a full lobotomy to the magnificence of MAN'S consciousness. Someone fuckwit occultist is playing God and doesn't want everyone else to fully wake up!

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The Cristian Family November 2006

Full Copy Of The Facebook Thread

https://www.facebook.com/ali.dohadwala/posts/10154595600459789

Ali Dohadwala

25th August 2016 - 23 hrs ago

I got a message for all you folks trying to slander Mr. Dubay. Y'all won't succeed. It's clear to me you people can't destroy his message and so you are trying hard to debase his character. You are the same people who act self righteous and spread dis-info about FE. Your videos are retarded attempts at mocking the truth. You may fool many and lead them down a lane of retardation. However those paying attention can see through your fake facade and soon your dark ways will be brought closer to the light.

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Naveen Akshar

if you're dissing mr. dubay you're dead or your head's just hollow - payday monsanto

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Billy Braveman

#EricDubay a.k.a Dubaz... I thank him..

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Amber Nichole Scott

And don't ask the nurse anything. Unless you want to get lied to? Everything we practiced with is fradulent asfuq. Like seriously, do you wanna die? If not then the suggestion governing ones own health need apply, cuz we experienced the truth and them doctors are cold blooded killers.

~Sweet Dreams

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Ali Dohadwala

You've been MIA!

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Amber Nichole Scott

My sweetheart apologize

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Johnny Conger

They can take their pathetic dunce diamond shaped effort and shove it where the sun dont shine....rubbish...

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Steven Oriordan

Demons

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Anthony Searls

If you know that the earth isn't a spinning ball than you know that Eric is legit....

Simple as that! :)

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Barrie Tooke

Eric is an elite.

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Barrie Tooke

No offence but to trust him would not be wise.

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Anthony Searls

What do you base your comments on Barrie?

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Barrie Tooke

Myself.. I trust no man.

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Ginette Hughes

I think all this is nonsense and makes no difference to anything.... All u so called awake people should be organising yourselves to make a real change to the world....

This is playground shit. .........

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Anthony Searls

Playground shit alright!

The truth is all that really matters...

Who delivers it is irrelevant... :)

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Ginette Hughes

Exactly.... and more to the point .... actually changing the corruption on the earth

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Hannibal A Agostini

Why don't YOU be that leader that you speak so passionately about, Ginette?

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Ginette Hughes

Doesn't require a leader but a social cooperative that infiltrates like they did to us.....and forces change from the inside out...

They fear the day we get organised. ....

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Ginette Hughes

Ginette Hughes Never mentioned a leader... mentioned about focusing on change rather than petty bickering that changes nothing...

U mentioned leader.

But on that note I don't particularly think women make great leaders. .. I think they make excellent facilitators. .... but I find men to be leaders as they tend to think and process with logic and can remove all emotion if necessary....

But the point is this arguing over shill nonsense is tiresome and pointless.
That's my point.... but take what I will from my comments. ...

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Hannibal A Agostini

You agreed with Anthony Searls' words and said "Exactly.. and more to the point.. actually changing the corruption on the Earth" How is Dubay's mass spreading of these profound truths not changing the entire paradigm? Sheeple are waking up to all other truths because FE creating such a buzz.

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Hannibal A Agostini

Why must exposing frauds be seen as "being emotional?" Shills are damaging to the message and should at least be properly labeled as such.

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Ginette Hughes

Are u reading stuff I'm not typing?

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Hannibal A Agostini

Um.. six comments above your^ last comment?

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Ginette Hughes

I think your reading my words inaccurately and putting your own spin on them in your head....

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Ginette Hughes

Just to clarify..... my point is the following. ..... all this internal arguing in the flat earth / ball skeptic community is completely pointless.... it does nothing to further anything. ...

All of them should be in my opinion focusing on a much more beneficial goal and working together to achieve that goal.

I have made no comment about Eric or exposing shills....

I have said this in fighting is like watching kids in the playground....

I can't make it any simpler than that.

I will leave that with you....

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Hannibal A Agostini

You feel that exposing shills who are knowingly and willfully deceptive forked tongued snakes, is a waste of time and unimportant. Obviously, if someone did nothing other than argue with trolls all day everyday, they'd get zero accomplished. I do tons of knowledge spreading AND take the necessary time out to DEFEND TRUTH with Honor. It's more of a man thing than a woman thing.

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Ginette Hughes

I think they are all pretty much saying the same thing....

That the earth is flat or not a globe and we have been lied too.
No point in arguing around who's doing what.... fact is we have woken up to the truth. .....

Now let's actually make some real changes .....

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Ginette Hughes

Eric Dubaz u never reply to my inboxes..... can u reply to the below for me.....

What's the plan then? How do we stop people getting killed bombed tortured raped kille d starved etc in this world?
How do we change the earth to a place of Eden again? Instead of what the people in charge want it to be?

Is it just flat earth you care about or is it humanity too?

I find it very strange that you and others don't like it when I point out how this in fighting in flat earth community is pointless and actually makes no difference to the awful things happening on this earth....

Can you clarify your position on that for me cos I'm unsure ?

I'm really starting to think FE is old news and a distraction technique. . The elite don't have any problem with us knowing the earth is flat.... they have to come clean sometime might as well be in the age of aquarius/ transparency. ...

They will only worry wen we all unite and stand up....

Why is no one interested in doing that???

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Anthony Searls

I agree that shills need to be exposed. The whole reason they are there is to muddy the waters.
Exposing them is handy because they still speak truth, and their truth can be relied upon because their truth is coming from the source of the lies.....

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Ginette Hughes

I don't think I've said that they should not be exposed..... but for me it's the only issue getting 'air time' and more important discussions don't even exist.....

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Ginette Hughes

Ginette Hughes Which is actually shocking to me.....

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Anthony Searls

There's so much bullshit and evil going on, I think FE is the best place to start. All of us that know the truth, I believe, should do the best they can to spread the word. Planting seeds is the best way in my experience over the last year and a half... Being militant about it doesn't work.... I've learnt that the hard way. Choose the right people also...

Doing some FE graffiti I think is a excellent idea.... It's symbolism... Very powerful.

Once critical mass is reached the collective consciousness of so many people knowing how badly we have been lied to should create a domino effect and hopefully topple this satanic rule we are currently under...

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Ali Dohadwala

I agree Anthony ☺

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Ali Dohadwala

Patience and persistence is key. We are not going see change overnight and looking too far ahead makes us often lose sight of how much progress we have made. Keep grinding, the truth itself is the remedy for all our problems. Each one teach one and never be afraid of confronting evil. The lies will dissipate the more we seek and speak truth.

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Ginette Hughes

I would like to think so Ali Dohadwala however I can see that in my opinion truth will not change everything... the elite don't mind us knowing the truth now... that's actually set in the stars for us to follow. But I can see a world very similar to the one in hunger games is actually on its way.....

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Ali Dohadwala

I added an additional sentence Ginette Hughes

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Ali Dohadwala

We must fight for our rights. "Fighting for peace" is a slogan we are conditioned to chant and has kept us hopefully ignorant and helpless.

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Ginette Hughes

Agreed

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Anthony Searls

Fighting by protesting is useless and playing right into the elite's hands... Violence is what they are set up for and they will turn the most peaceful protests violent any time they want via infiltration.
If we can disengage from their bullshit media, stop voting and limit how much of their shit we buy, that will be much more powerful than any mass protest...

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Ali Dohadwala

Yes we must disengage and boycott the system. Self sustainability is a great step towards demonstrating our will.

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Ali Dohadwala

How to Quit Your Slave Job (and Live Your Dream Life!)
Eric Dubay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLwNG5l0Yoo

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Ginette Hughes

I used to think that was the answer.... but I no longer do.... that really won't change much for people who don't have a log cabin in the woods or land on which to grow food..... I think if people started opting out we would ended end up like a hunger games world....

I'm of the opinion that organised infiltration of the media , banking etc like they have done to us is the place to start.....

We don't agree with the system but making our own situation harder doesn't help..... let's do it eye to eye on level ground.... I. E. At the top not the bottom....

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Pip Squeak

Why do folk protect this guy so much? I've been through the mill of the IFERS mind control system along with m,any others. Here's a few on my website :)

BANNED From IFERS!!
If you get banned from IFERS please enter the reason why below in the comments section.
http://www.flat-earther.co.uk/banned-me-from-ifers

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Ali Dohadwala

Read this before you get banned
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154595843299789&set=p.10154595...

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Ali Dohadwala

Read This Before You Get Banned!
http://ifers.123.st/t6-read-this-before-you-get-banned

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Pip Squeak

Exactly, don't think for yourself rather follow what we say or you're banned! I added a lot of content to the old ifers forum that was deleted when I got banned, then a month later some of the links and maps I'd posted started getting posted again and the mods were like - great find, good work as if they'd never seen them before! I don't see anything from ED on the new No Forests video going about because that would fuck his timeline on everything. This earth was hell and may still be? We live in a quarry and we still rape mother earth!

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Arthur Cristian

We've known Eric Dubay or should we say Eric has known about us for many years now. The Love For Life (LFL) work we've been creating started in March 2005. In the LFL website we set up this section in Jan 2006 and updated it Jan 2008: "Astronomy - Geocentricity - Heliocentricity - Does The Earth Go Around The Sun Or Does The Sun Go Around The Earth?" http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3455 - it has since received multi-millions of visitors/unique ip addresses.

There is a lot of ground to cover if you really want to make sense of reality (direct sensory experience). This recent internet radio chat goes into some of these psyop programs:

The Dark Side Of The Moon
The Background To "The System"

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
24th August 2016
146 Minuutes
https://youtu.be/C5TViw1NLr4

As does this 3 hr video:
IMAGE POWER
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
10th February 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFnuuw3kLog

This thread goes into inculcation (psyop programming) tactics in great detail:

The Satanic Craft Of Inculcation In Practice
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
4th March 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8578

These series of videos go into the trauma of the Psyop Programming

Dancing With Magic (Lies)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
5th to 17th September 2015
Part One: https://youtu.be/hx7qJ7r2OS4 118 Minutes

Part Two: https://youtu.be/b_KuEFdKmnA 94 Minutes

Part Three: https://youtu.be/9pJc1NfnAcI 114 Minutes

Part Four: https://youtu.be/kSVURGwm1Go 106 Minutes

Many other links to videos and articles can be found within the articles and videos listed above.

Currently, it is still most clear to us that Earth is NOT flat and neither is it round

Eric is peddling a psyop program using "flat earth" to mess with the real mass exodus out of "The System" in this life (a huge diversion tactic) - we call this exodus from "The System" Kindom (lots of Kindom remedy videos and articles can also be found within the links provided above).

When we started confronting Eric about these psyop programming tactics he blatantly uses he just ran away and refused to have a constructive debate/discussion with us ever since - he continues to avoid us. He is a gutless wimp who just blocks FB friendships to avoid dealing with sincere brothers/sisters on the real path of exposing all forms of lies/fraud/psyop programs/trauma.

See this thread posted March 2015 where we instigated a chat with Eric on his FB wall and he blocked us - this coming from Eric who wrote to us years prior showering us with all tyopes of praise and thank you's for all the LFL freedom-truth work we do but when it no longer suited him/his-agenda, he ran away: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10206055405412254 -

An example of using sense to scrutinize Flat Earth: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10208971371069573

Sanitised wrote via Facebook Private Message today............ "Arthur im not here to offend i just want to understand how water can be held upside down on a ball my eyes and my senses tell me i stand on flat ground not a spinning ball"

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Arthur Cristian

As we have visitors and are extremely busy.... briefly....

Lineal constructs/concepts (including equipment) are incapable of measuring non-lineal reality including claimed "lines". A, b, c, 1, 2, 3 are lineal too and all thoughts/images/concepts/constructs/meanings derived from them are lineal too. The English language is lineal. As there is/was no beginning to life, to the dream of life there is no flat line because that is lineal/finite.

Placebo effects evolve out of inculcation creating Stockholm Syndromes - believers fall into the 3rd party illuminating images of their projections bouncing back to them as their creation. As we are creators, the images of our creations expand and curve as they return to us in the image of our projections. Flat lines can't do this.

The fact is you have to bring Earth/Creation forward as a first party to back the flat earth claims. Lets hear it directly from the tongue of Earth/Creation and not from an impostor. acting as an expert commentator/authorised re-presentative of Earth/Flat-Earth/Creation, etc.

So far all we have are 3rd party impostors coming forward re-presenting Earth/Creation - this is fraud and slander and lying.

Belief is NOT proof of fact, as is faith and associated opinions.

A drop of water is not Earth, the first party.

A drop of water is not defined by the drop of water, it is defined by the whole of creation for without the whole of creation there would be no drop of water. Same with a bird, tree and us (MAN). Who we really are does not end at the surface of our skin - who we really are is the whole of creation.

Also, "flat earth" is "name" clearly revealing the Satanic/Freemasonic black-magic behind explanation, instruction, education, suggestion of "name". "Name" is always in 3rd party. Example, the thought of freedom, consciousness, God, etc, is not Freedom, Consciousness, God, etc.

The thought of freedom, flat earth. etc, is just an idea/thought/image made up by another man/woman telling you how to think, feel and act about a flat earth, freedom, God. And explanation of freedom is NOT your freedom or consciousness or flat earth.

Where can millions of innocent children not exposed to "The System" or exposed to anyone who was exposed to "The System" of a, b, c, 1, 2, 3 (explanation/instruction/education/suggestion, etc), go anywhere in or across Earth/Nature to learn about "flat earth" without another man/women already got at and brainwashed having to explain flat earth to them?

We cannot make sense out of non-sense - we can only expand more non-sense out of non-sense. The fact a, b, c, 1, 2, 3 is being used to communicate the education/explanation/instruction/suggestion of circle, ball, round, flat, etc, is MANS fallen "state" of non-sense making more non-sense out of non-sense.

Truth is a direct-sensory-experience while lies are not. Truth does not require explanation/instruction/suggestion/education because truth is already present amongst the living - only lies require explanation...........

Truth does not require word/words/letters to exist, to set its life into motion.

A child can already sense the tree and the tree can sense the child.

A child doers not require 3rd party explanations for the tree to exist before the child.

Lineal concepts/constructs are derived only from 3rd party explanations/instructions/education/suggestions - flat-earth is a lineal concept/construct, clearly revealing the fact that "flat-earth is made up by a man/woman acting as a lying fraudster.

Did you learn about flat earth directly from flat earth or from another man-/woman who explained it to you?

These posts go into inculcation...

The Satanic Craft Of Inculcation In Practice
Fiona's ACT Supreme Court Affidavit Explaining Inculcation & Illumination

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
4th March 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8578

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Hannibal A Agostini

The Flat Earth Psyop - Who Is Behind It
https://scontent.fbne1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14045658_119941357010970...

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Pip Squeak

It's all a distraction to keep you looking up instead of looking down at the mess this world is in. Great site Arthur if only we could all live this way.

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Hannibal A Agostini

I Don't Always Ask The Question "So What If The Earth Is Flat? How Does That Change My Life?"
https://scontent.fbne1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14117845_119941391010967...

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Hannibal A Agostini

Which One Is Your Ancestor?
https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1165357716857121&id=10000148711418...

Image may contain: one or more people

John Thor

16 August at 05:42

Which One Is Your Ancestor ?

Men with evil motives are peddling Pseudoscience to make you believe you're a monkey living on a Spinning ball! Think about that while you're watching your T.V Programs.

The truth is not for everyone, but only for those who seek it.

Do you have Blind faith in Darwinian Evolution?
Is There Any Proof for Darwinian Evolution?

https://youtu.be/xqYHtKau8do

The following 6-hour documentary ( https://youtu.be/GhRiLP32qfs ) is currently the most complete and comprehensive presentation of the Flat Earth truth available to date. Narrated by Eric Dubay, this videobook covers the majority of his best-selling "The Flat Earth Conspiracy," book and is guaranteed to awaken even the sleepiest sheeple to the global deception. Please like, subscribe, comment and share to help get this most important documentary out to the masses!
The Best Flat Earth Documentary
https://youtu.be/GhRiLP32qfs

For more information about our flat, motionless Earth, please visit:
http://www.AtlanteanConspiracy.com
http://www.IFERS.123.st

FREE Download or read online.
200 Proofs Earth is Not a Spinning Ball.
Author Eric Dubay.
http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/08/200-proofs-earth-is-not-spinn...

200 Proofs Earth is not a spinning ball video book by Eric Dubay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5i_iDyUTCg

#FlatEarth

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Hannibal A Agostini

The world is in the demonic state that it's in because of a Nihilistic apathetic world view that's been imposed on us by this globe/evolution bullshit. Fake alien life just hit the news today! Fake space speeds up agenda 21.

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Arthur Cristian

The Dark Side Of The Moon - The Background To "The System" 146 Minuutes https://youtu.be/C5TViw1NLr4

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Hannibal A Agostini

The Flat Moon Over the Flat Earth
http://youtu.be/fH7BjIzXWOg

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Hannibal A Agostini

The Moon Cannot Be Walked On JackAss!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1199480343436360&set=p.119948034...

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Ali Dohadwala

"Currently, it is still most clear to us that Earth is NOT flat and neither is it round"

You are denying empirical evidence? You claim to seek truth yet you deny what your senses tell you?

Brother Arthur I watched your show yesterday and listened to you speak intently.

You claimed that the moon is projected by our collective consciousness and that if we so willed it could be removed from existence.

If that ain't pseudo, I don't know what is.

You also tell people not to believe anything you say and to verify facts for themselves. Well I did and guess what the EARTH IS FLAT from every altitude in the sky. There is no proof for a ball, none. So why would I assume the shape is anything other than flat?

If you say it is not flat and neither is it round, what shape is it (surface)?

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Amber Nichole Scott

Pardon the nurse, must be on the wrong post and earth is a cube with no proof

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Arthur Cristian

Empirical evidence is NOT proof of fact, is a lineal construct

To repeat....... "Lineal constructs/concepts (including equipment) are incapable of measuring non-lineal reality including claimed "lines". A, b, c, 1, 2, 3 are lineal too and all thoughts/images/concepts/constructs/meanings derived from them are lineal too. The English language is lineal. As there is/was no beginning to life, to the dream of life there is no flat line because that is lineal/finite.

Placebo effects evolve out of inculcation creating Stockholm Syndromes - believers fall into the 3rd party illuminating images of their projections bouncing back to them as their creation. As we are creators, the images of our creations expand and curve as they return to us in the image of our projections. Flat lines can't do this."

Bring forward "empirical" in first party. Through a direct sensory experience, let's hear it directly from the tongue of "empirical" and not from a 3rd party actor/re-presentative, a MAN impersonating "empirical" in 1st party. Can you arrange this Ali??? To perform in 3rd party is lying and committing fraud. So bring forward the first party to back your claims.

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Arthur Cristian

The Tree Of Life
https://www.askideas.com/media/78/Awesome-Black-Tree-Of-Life-Tattoo-Desi...

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Amber Nichole Scott

Eye ain't reading all that, just study natural law.

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Arthur Cristian

Mushroom Cloud Atomic Bomb
http://www.interestingfactsfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Sheer-Nucl...

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Amber Nichole Scott

Sky Mushrooms
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1677664735887761&set=p.167766473...

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Arthur Cristian

"Just study natural law." is a man-made con-struct, is lineal in origin. Whose "natural law"? Bring forward "natural law" in first party. Through a direct sensory experience, let's hear it directly from the tongue of "natural law;" and not from a 3rd party actor/re-presentative, a MAN impersonating "natural law" in 1st party. Can you arrange this??? To perform in 3rd party is lying and committing fraud. So bring forward the first party to back your claims.

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Amber Nichole Scott

Al Green-Here i am baby (come and take me)
https://youtu.be/l73FkH3v7yg

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Arthur Cristian

Ali, the whole of creation including celestial bodies is Earth and to us is the true shape of earth/life/creation. We are addressing wholeness, no defined exclusions. To us we sense the shape of the tree of life and the mushroom is closer to what the living shape of creation/earth looks like. The mushroom is the water firmament containing (hanging) all the celestial bodies and the stem of the mushroom/tree of life is expanding eternally out of MAN'S consciousness, and the "land" we walk on is suspended inside the expanding mushroom head (atmosphere/ionosphere/heavens/etc - so to speak) below the firmament.

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Arthur Cristian

Amber Nichole Scott LOLLLL

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Arthur Cristian

The Dark Side Of The Moon - The Background To "The System" 146 Minuutes https://youtu.be/C5TViw1NLr4

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Amber Nichole Scott

The System Is A Commercial
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1677673552553546&set=p.167767355...

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Arthur Cristian

Also, while you are using a telescope, microscope or any other measuring device/prosthetic, every alphabet (measurement) thought in your head occurring while you are observing or testing, is NOT coming from what you are observing/testing of reality/nature/life and is not coming from the device being used too. It is coming ONLY from the thoughts of other men and women (3rd parties) explaining, instructing, educating, suggesting whatever to you in the past. Same applies when reading books or watching a video, etc, etc. Same with Flat Earth, God, Daffodil Is Yellow, Natural Law, etc, etc... BELIEF IS NOT PROOF OF FACT.

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Hannibal A Agostini

TRUTH IS OBJECTIVE
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1199451590105902&set=p.119945159...

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Arthur Cristian

This is a misleading comment/saying.
Refer to The Dark Side Of The Moon video we posted above.

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Hannibal A Agostini

Mark Passio - Demystification of the Truth
http://youtu.be/nV0iGltAo7M

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Hannibal A Agostini

You are a deceptive piece of :poop: . Fuck you, you will fail.

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Hannibal A Agostini

If Someone Doesn't Value Evidence
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1199481066769621&set=p.119948106...

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Arthur Cristian

:)

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Arthur Cristian

The Dark Side Of The Moon - The Background To "The System" 146 Minuutes https://youtu.be/C5TViw1NLr4

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Hannibal A Agostini

You're a charlatan, fake facebook guru. Are you trying to gain a following?

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Arthur Cristian

The Dark Side Of The Moon - The Background To "The System" 146 Minuutes https://youtu.be/C5TViw1NLr4

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Arthur Cristian

Read our earlier post in this thread, link: https://www.facebook.com/ali.dohadwala/posts/10154595600459789

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Amber Nichole Scott

Go to the gym for 2 hours and look at that mad house. Tisk! Tisk!

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Amber Nichole Scott

Here is a present just for the bright side on the moon.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1677765869210981&set=p.167776586...

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Hannibal A Agostini

Actually, I should've phrased that better. It's more just a few giggling ones in a decent circle of peeps.

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Ken Parsons

Damn Skippy!

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Paul Michael Dawson

There is quite an evident paper trail if you do the research that Dubay/Dubaz was paid $ 100,000 by the US government to produce FE videos . If you prefer the controlled version of the truth , that's up to you , just a heads up.

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Adam Duran

Then why would Dubay take it deep all the way to the Jesuits?

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Paul Michael Dawson

Controlled opposition friend. Well known tactics from the Masons.

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Ali Dohadwala

Your assertions are ludicrous and unsubstantiated. Firstly the documents you allege to be "proof" of a conspiracy are public record. There is more than one person with the name "Eric Dubay" from Maine alone.

Eric has denied he was the recipient of the settlement. Eric has also publicly denied getting injured from a vaccine. You are accusing all parties involved (lawyer, judges etc) in a conspiracy to defraud the American taxpayer. If you are so sure you have positive proof of a conspiracy I would suggest you pressure this lawyer to swear an oath and risk being sued for libel.

You insinuate that Eric is working for the CIA yet allege he got paid in an overt manner. This is where your argument breaks down. The CIA doesn't need to scam the government to pay their employees. Their well documented modus operandi is to create fake identities/back stories/bank accounts to ensure their agents are protected. If you really think the CIA is that stupid and seek to expose their own agents you are really naive.

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Paul Michael Dawson

:) OK buddy , if that's what you want to believe.

Go check out Paul Michael Bales page . He documents it quite nicely . The proof if there , if you chose to be ignorant to it , that's up to you.

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Ali Dohadwala

The same guy who blocks everyone on his page who contest his "evidence"! OK buddy.

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Paul Michael Dawson

The guy gets harassed 100 times a day ..Don't blame him 1 bit . He's the original flat earther . Dubay stole all his literature and concepts. Blatantly. They know each other .
Dubay is a snake.
Believe what you like .

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Mar Queen

thank u Ali for sharing this...Eric Dubaz for sure is the only one who talks about the depeest deceptions besides flat earth

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Ali Dohadwala

Thank you lady, I appreciate your passion for truth!

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Angelique LaJing Ajamalleo

(Y)

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Tracy Thompson

nobody is perfect but that doesn't mean the earth is round. eric does the best he can n i think he does a great job. i believe the earth is flat regardless of what ppl say about him.

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John Drabczyk

Nothing wrong with Eric. People are jealous haterz

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Eric Dubaz

Thanks for the support guys! You want a quick way to expose the shills? Just make a post like this on your Facebook supporting Eric Dubay and they will come out of the wood-work to slander me in every way possible :P

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John Drabczyk

They've got one strategy. Deception.

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Ali Dohadwala

Here Eric addresses many of the recent false/ludicrous allegations being made against him. These shills never seem to attack the work he puts out and instead it seems their strategy is to attack his character.

Paul Michael Bales - The Lying Morpheus
ATLANTEANCONSPIRACY.COM|BY ERIC DUBAY
http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2016/08/paul-michael-bales-lying-morp...

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Ali Dohadwala

Here is a comprehensive resource library for those interested in studying the history of our FE resurgence and its overt/covert shill infiltration from Day 1.

http://ifers.123.st/f10-flat-earth-shills-trolls-and-controlled-oppositi...

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Jacob Engberson

The cats out of the bag...it's too late...the earth is a fixed motionless ever expanding plane

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Ali Dohadwala

Also if you have any other sincere questions/concerns about Eric's character and/or body of work please voice them here. You see it's not us who are avoiding truth but rather those folks who make allegations yet avoid objective criticism. These same folks behave like pretentious, self righteous celebrities and use the FE keyword to muddy the waters with dis-info and nonsense.

Please look at the bigger picture folks. Eric's work and FE are synonymous and the slander campaign does affect the growth of our movement. Some of folks bashing Eric are not shills in my opinion. Y'all seem to be deceived by the slander campaign and/or have some personal conflict/grudge against Eric. Every moment is a new opportunity to resolve conflicts and if your intent is sincere then I am sure you and Eric can come to a mutual resolution/understanding. Peace.

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Arthur Cristian

Well then inspire Eric to have a debate with us and have it recorded and uploaded to Youtube for all to see and hear. If Eric has truth by his side then he has nothing to be concerned about. What about it Eric????? We are up for it, what about you? Here is your opportunity to rout us out or do you still prefer to hide in the shadows? Fiona and Arthur Cristian

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Ali Dohadwala

Debates are demonstrations, the mob judges the winner. Discussion and reflection is what free thinkers engage in to study a subject. A debate is a marketing strategy used to promote a perception not necessarily the truth.

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Ali Dohadwala

Why would anyone want to enter into a discussion with you Arthur? Your pompous attitude is deplorable. Peace.

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Derrick Ryales

Seeing my first FE vid with Eric Dubaz changed my life and my thought process will never be the same.Bigups to the man!

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Arthur Cristian

Real debates IS A SCRUTINY Of CLAIMS. It is about getting to the truth of a matter, no stone left unturned, no e-motional attachments to any outcomes. A debate does not have to be unfriendly and no one needs to make anything personal. If all those involved are determined to go where the truth takes them, no matter what, then there will be no controversy, no ruffled feathers, no e-go battles. We would be happy to accept that Earth is flat if this can be proven through first party to first party means but, so far, it has not been proven and we have shown why in our posts in this thread.

You are the one making things personal now, Ali, entering into censorship and claiming the higher ground to avoid engaging in an open debate. We don't have a mob that we carry around with us. The truth is enough for us, but we have seen plenty of evidence of fanaticism on this wall. We are just Arthur and Fiona, standing on our feet. We don't need to have anyone hold our hands and are not part of a movement, for that would be a cult which is all about a loss of true freedom. Better, let everyone air their views and bring proof of their views so that we can all learn. This is what we are about.

You say, "Your pompous attitude is deplorable." But you are making us responsible for how you feel/behave here and projecting this behaviour of yours onto us to avoid engaging with us. This is fanaticism, a mob mentality and bears all the signs of a cult of zealots and bigots who are not prepared to examine their beliefs because they feel they have something to lose. Behind all this is the lie they protect because they are scared of the truth, otherwise they wouldn't behave like this.

FE has become a religion! Are you a religious fanatic? If not, why are you so adamant about trying to protect FE and controlling outcomes? Who are you trying to protect? Do you not stand for freedom for all? If so, why are you acting on behalf of everyone else, acting as their representative because you think you know what is best for everyone. This is censorship and discrimination, all the clear signs of a cult in practise. From this comes the exclusivity of an enclave because the cult members don't want anyone to leave the cult.

You are trying to control how things work out by making things personal and placing restrictions on what is happening. This is limited responsibility, which means that you have given up taking full responsibility for your actions. You prefer the shadows and don't want the light to come into the areas of darkness of secrets that you still protect, be it through unconscious trauma or conscious intent, which is still trauma.

What are you scared of? If you have been deceived, isn't it better to find out as soon as possible so that you can stop giving your life energy to the lies? Or have you sold out, Ali? Which way do you go?

Liars have to hide behind the lies. Scrutiny exposes lies which is why anyone who is pure and sincere in their intention welcomes scrutiny and does not attack another MAN and make things personal.

All together, they want to go where truth takes them rather than remaining in the shadows of lies, deceit and deception to be manipulated and controlled by those who benefit the most from the lies, continuing to maintain power and control over the cult.

You are trying to make us responsible for your life. You are admitting that you have an e-motional attachment to the outcome here and you are using us and your comments about us to deflect any perceived attack on your beliefs.

We are not an organisation. It is just Fiona and Arthur here. Why have you given us so much power, so that your buttons are pressed by us. If FE is true, here's an opportunity for Eric to lay everything out on the table for us all to examine and debate. If he has truth on his side, then he has nothing to lose, and if he has been deceived too, then here is his opportunity to get out.

Our intent is to expose all the lies that are keeping us all trapped, exposing the psyop programs that are making a mess of real people's lives. The whole of "The System" is a cult and we all have to make sure that FE is not another cult emerging out of "The System" cult. The remedy to "The System" is not another cult! The remedy is NO SYSTEM, no man-made system (psyop program forming a cult).

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Ali Dohadwala

What topic do you want to discuss? If your aim is to debunk the FE reality then you must provide your proofs and let the public determine their validity. If they are self evident then I am sure you can lure away all "Eric's followers" which seems to be your intent. So instead of acting self righteous and taunting Eric why don't you just let your work speak for itself.

It is obvious to me that your pseudo science holds no weight and is being ignored by critical thinkers. If you came on this thread to preach your gospel of truth then you have succeeded. Drop all your research links here and let the public scrutinize your claims. Peace.

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Arthur Cristian

Ali said, "provide your proofs and let the public determine their validity." So here are our proofs.

Lies create the cults of fantasy. Believers in fantasy are the duped clinging to lies as their only form of "reality-salvation" to the chaos, harm, doubt, uncertainty, deceit, fear, fantasy, illusion and delusion they are experiencing and enduring.

It has been this way since the inculcation of psyop programming manipulation practices were implemented as a Satanic craft to control others through trauma and reactions to trauma, conning them into projecting pseudoscience images to create make believe worlds to live in and be ruled by those who invented inculcation and pseudoscience.

Inculcation occurs ONLY through the sinister forms (delivery mechanisms) of trauma based myths, fables, fairytales, 3rd party indoctrination, brainwashing and expert commentary (education/instruction/explanation/suggestion) because they only happened amongst the victims of war, invasion and decimation and those who conquered them.

Wherever you find these myths and lores, you also find that they are rooted in the history of war and terror, the trauma that everyone is reacting to, thanks to the manipulation of inculcation and pseudoscience that imprisons them in "The System". This is what forms "The System", which is Ancient Egypt, Greece, Rome, etc. All the ancient civilisations bear the mark of this manipulation upon the people trapped in them.

The fanaticism of Christianity is set against the backdrop of "The System" so that all the fanatics of Christianity are trapped in "The System" of the church controlled by the priests who are really the practising occultists of Freemasonry. The same happens with Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, atheism, the New Age, quantum physics, Flat Earth, etc, etc. If you think that this is not the case with FE, then you are a deeply brainwashed fanatic, which is one of the reasons why we want to debate with Eric. We would like to draw him out into the big picture and see where he goes. :)

The craft of Freemasonic occults (oc---cults) and esoterics (esssss ooooo terror i csssss) is practised ONLY through the pseudoscience of measurements, the compass & square. Levels, dimensions, planes, lines, circles, squares, pyramids, angles, etc, are all illusions, make believe projections superimposed over reality by fanatics, forming the pseudoscience communication of fantasy, "The System", ruling over reality, which is what Eric is totally reliant on to peddle the FE theory.

Out of this comes all the technology, that is all lineal because it is fantasy and a lie. If it was non-lineal, it wouldn't need the third party explanation of a third party measurement because the truth of it is already there; its presence is already present amongst the living. Truth stands, is evident to the living and doesn't need to be explained to the living. There is full disclosure of the truth. This is reality.

There is no full disclosure with lineal measurements because there are secrets; measurements dissect, divide and carve up the big picture so that it is lost because we focus on the measurements rather than on the big picture of reality that has been dissected. This becomes a shattered reality. Just as there is more to the elephant than just a tail, and more to the forest than just a tree, there is more to earth than the measurements we are taught to describe earth with.

However, when we are blindfolded, and all we feel is the tail of the elephant, we can easily believe that the tail is all there is to the elephant, if we don't continue exploring the elephant to get the bigger picture. Measurements blindfold us, which is why we use scrutiny to get behind the brainwashing of measurement and expose the bigger picture that has been buried under all the occultic bullshit. We have formed a fake sense of belonging with measurements that define the fake lives we form in "The System" of this pseudoscience that are the evidence of our fanaticism. We are so deeply in love with the lie of reality-salvation.

What we have to realise is that very, very few men and women across earth, if any, will have had full exposure to the true nature of earth. The rest of us have been blindfolded, just as those exploring an elephant for the first time while blindfolded will only get a picture of the part of the elephant we feel, be it the tail, ear, foot, trunk, etc.

Through the pounding of system pseudoscience from so early in life, we have been told that earth is a planet, is round, spins, is part of a solar system, is in a galaxy and a universe defined by objects of measurement, etc, and we have been practising this storytelling of pseudoscience imagery for so long that it is all we see, a whole matrix of varying lines of measurements superimposed over everything in every way possible so that we lose our connection with reality.

The fake identity that we all practise in "The System" is set to and defined by this background of pseudoscience. All fanaticism comes out of this because this is all they have got to make them fanatics. Wherever we are congregating as family or friends, at work, studies or play, we have been defined by pseudoscience, thinking that this is who we really are, addicted to its constructs and definitions. Everything of race, culture, creed, titles and standings is this, commerce, philosophies, sport, fashion, nightlife, movies, romances, etc, all come out of this - it has all been defined.

Because pseudoscience is the background to our fake, system lives, it is always before us because we are constantly drawing from and projecting it, paving the Yellow Brick Road paths that we walk down. We dream it, think it, live it and sleep it. The ocCULTists have been successful in their quest to create a robot out of all of MAN.

All of this has been done through ocCULTic measurements so that we think that the earth ends at the surface of earth, and is defined by the measurements of atmosphere, stratosphere, ionosphere, etc. All the distances between earth and the sun and the moon, etc, are measured to and from the surface of the earth because we have accepted that earth ends here and space, with all its celestial bodies, begins from above the surface of earth.

When we don't see (sense) beyond the measurements, what we do not sense remains secret because we are blind to it, lost to the non-sense, the darkness where the light of full disclosure of the big picture is not present. We are boxed into the thinking of the definitions that are formed out of the measurements of pseudoscience, which are all the alphabet thoughts in our heads. The illusion of our life in "The System" is the imagining of pseudoscience that we believe to be true.

This is why we were all exposed to the occultist's education of pseudoscience alphabet thoughts in our heads and why we are exposed to the reactions to trauma that manipulate us into projecting these make believe images (pseudoscience) of "The System". A, b, c, 1, 2, 3, do not exist and neither does any word, sentence, paragraph, con-cept, con-struct, etc, coming out of it. It is all fantasy, pseudoscience, and the whole of the imagining of the FE theory comes out of this shit. But hey, when you are a fanatic, you ignore this fact because you don't want to destroy the fantasy bubble of your belief that you have built your fake identity out of. You love the illusion (e-go) more than reality.

Flat earth has been defined by the same craft of Freemasonic measurements, pseudoscience, and there is a sinister reason for this. This is what Eric is using to promote his theory of a flat earth. Everything of uncorrupted nature that we see with our eyes, including celestial bodies, is true, is evident, but everything that has been explained to us about what we see is not. Our brains have been discombobulated and mesmerised by this pseudoscience measurement, forming the cult of flat earth as part of the cult of "The System".

When we look at what exists of reality through a microscope, telescope or any other instrument, none of the thoughts that we are thinking are coming from what we are observing and neither are they coming from the equipment/prosthetics that we are using. The same applies to everything that we are reading, watching or listening to - none of the thoughts we are thinking about what we are reading, watching or listening to are coming from what we are reading, watching or listening to.

Eric is relying on lots of pseudoscience equipment but none of the thoughts he is thinking or claiming as proof of his flat earth argument are coming from the equipment. He can't bring the equipment forward to tell us, first party to first party, what it sees without another MAN coming forward to use the pseudoscience ritual to explain it all to us on its behalf using the pseudoscience of alphabets to form the make-believe communication of letters and words that also have nothing to do with what is being observed.

All he is doing is relying on the fanaticism of pseudoscience in everyone and manipulating it so that they project and bond with the FE imagery he provides, believing that what they are seeing through the imaginings of pseudoscience is true. They bond because they are fanatics of pseudoscience because they see everything in their image like that. "In the beginning was the word (pseudoscience) and the word was God"; this is the basis of fanaticism where pseudoscience has been raised as the God of the believers because that is all they see. Everything they think, feel, act and create is in the image of pseudoscience, causing them to forsake their soul. Refer to "The Satanic Craft Of Inculcation In Practise" and the Love For Life videos mentioned.

It is the non-sensory alphabets and words that Eric uses to explain his theories and they are all tools of the occultic (Satanic/Freemasonic) craft that keep us trapped in the image power (pseudoscience) of those who invented and rely on these tools of imagining to keep us trapped and to create cults of believers of this pseudoscience. Eric is also the result of brainwashing into the occults of pseudoscience, just as the ancestors of all Freemasonic occultists (worshippers of black magic) were also brainwashed by the founding father of occultic practices. It is clear who Eric's master is.

This brainwashing goes right back to early life, when we were all forced to project these ocCULTic images to create the make-believe world ("The System") that they want us to create in their image as the rats following these pied pipers, forever serving the rules, conditions, contracts and belief systems of this re-legion (the cult).

This is why we have been subjected to this brainwashing and why the occultists continue to manipulate us into being compelled to project the images of a fake version of reality that they scripted long ago, and to which they brainwashed our ancestors, who passed it on to us. They get us to talk their pseudoscience language because then we create the occultic world in the image of that pseudoscience language. They manipulate the trauma so that we perform the pseudoscience rituals of the constructs. They need us to perform to raise up the matrix out of MAN and MAN'S nature, not realising the consequences of the devastation to reality needed to do so.

Eric has created a cult and all those trapped in the cult are fanatics. This is what is sinister about Eric's work.

Just as we perform for the Police Officer who pulls us over by producing our licence on his demand, compelled by the fear of what may happen to us if we do not, so we perform to the backdrop of pseudoscience, because of the fear of finding out that we have been lied to and that our cosy world is not as it seems. We do not want to know if we have based our lives on truth or lies. When we do this, we give our power to the occultists to rule us and control us because our wills have been broken.

When we rely on pseudoscience we cannot see (SENSE) the big picture because we are lost in the measurements of non-sense, the fantasy of reality-salvation against the horror of all the trauma. The same mumbo jumbo that was used to con our ancestors into accepting the lores and myths of earlier recorded history, is the same pseudoscience non-sense being used to peddle the theory of flat earth. Eric is relying on this pseudoscience to form his flat earth theory. We have all been smashed by this.

Again, watch the videos "The Dark Side Of The Moon - The Background To "The System", "Image Power" and "the "Dancing With Magic" series", and read "The Satanic Craft Of Inculcation In Practise", including the comments section. This work goes more deeply into the trauma behind all the myths and lores and how the trauma is manipulated to make us not want to see the big picture but to remain lost the the measurements living our lives out of them as the result of our broken wills.

The tree does not need to be explained to the child because the presence of its life is already present to the child. When we explain something to the child, we are forming measurements of pseudoscience for the child so that the child can't see the big picture anymore because its head is swimming with all the pseudoscience and projecting that, the matrix. Now the child is lost in non-sense.

We are not saying that part of earth is not flat, just as the elephant has a tail. But there is a much bigger picture of earth that we lose when our heads are swimming with pseudoscience. With pseudoscience, it is easy to think that the elephant is just the tail, just the ears. As the saying goes, you can't see the wood for the trees.

To break through the walls of fanaticism, we repeat: when we rely on pseudoscience, we become lost in the inculcation practices of a, b, c, 1, 2, 3, becoming the robotic drones that carry out the story of measurements that define our fake reality, reliant on mathematics and geometry to form the spelling (hypnotic suggestions) of alphabet imagery. The English world is this, as are all other alphabet languages which are used to record the lies of 3rd party his-story/her-story (history) of the make-believe matrix.

Alphabets are fantasy and their letters and words forms the basis of all pseudoscience which FE is totally reliant on. Without pseudoscience there would be no FE storytelling going on. Believing in anything of pseudoscience is to bring the whole of pseudoscience with it, which is what Eric the occultist and all the Freemasonic occultists who are his masters are relying on. When we accept FE, we accept the whole of "The System" matrix that FE come out of. If you can't see how Eric is messing with your head, you are gone.

These large systems of organised lies, the cults of civilisations ("The System") coordinated by a crime syndicate, have always been housed in libraries full of 3rd party literature to uphold the fake version of reality with all its fanfare, laws, customs, etc. They always show up as a deeply complex maze of mysteries forming a brilliantly crafted rabbit warren to keep the duped forever lost with no escape or respite for them and their descendants. This is what is happening with FE movement too.

Education is compulsory because they do not want anyone to break away from the black magic spelling of their pseudoscience.

All Eric has is the third party letters and words forming story lines of measurement explanations reliant on third party expert commentators using third party prosthetics/devices to perform the staged act of FE world. There is no living first party to first party sensory life form coming forward as FE, outside the grip of pseudoscience, to back the claims of the third party expert commentators reliant on pseudoscience (black-magic) to con and deceive the gullible into believing what is being "sold" to them.

Ali, our questions and insights are not reliant on lineal technologies, constructs and concepts such as but not limited to 3rd party words, letters, stories, performances, equipment, etc, to bring about the Love For Life insight work we do because that would be pseudoscience. We just use our brains to make sense of all the pseudoscience non-sense and that's it.

The Flat earth movement is hell reliant on pseudoscience to forge all the bullshit it peddles as fodder to the duped. Your claims clearly reveal that you are lying and committing slander and fraud Ali. You have accused us of peddling pseudoscience but you are the one doing that, as clearly revealed in this thread and many of the posts on your Facebook. You are a member of the FE cult, and you admit it.

We are not making the claims reliant on pseudoscience here to uphold pseudoscience. We are not cult followers of pseudoscience. We are just challenging all the claims made by the FEarther's. The Kindom remedy we promote is all about getting away from pseudoscience and returning to direct sensory experience with nature so that nature (reality) is the backdrop of our lives and not pseudoscience. We live to destroy all forms of pseudoscience because it brings darkness to the living light of MAN'S soul.

There are no smoke and mirror games to be found amongst our repertoire. We have no need for such arsenal to gain a hold over the "minds" of the people. Only cult leaders would do such despicable things. It is just Fiona and Arthur here, a simple everyday family with simple everyday needs living simple everyday lives. We don't re-present others - only oc-cult leaders/practitioners do this.

We are addressing Eric D here, ONLY Eric D, we are not focused on others.

Why are you so concerned about others and what they think? Can you not allow others the freedom to come to their own conclusions without trying to influence them, which you do when you say, "So instead of acting self righteous and taunting Eric why don't you just let your work speak for itself. It is obvious to me that your pseudo science holds no weight and is being ignored by critical thinkers. If you came on this thread to preach your gospel of truth then you have succeeded. Drop all your research links here and let the public scrutinize your claims. Peace."

Who are you to make claims about what "critical thinkers" are doing? Please bring forward these critical thinkers, free of pseudoscience, so that they can tell us, first party to first party that they are ignoring our work. Thinking that you are a critical thinker whilst under the influence of pseudoscience is more evidence of delusion.

As for "Peace", we don't sense any peace coming from you because you have taken on the stance of an act of war against us but you are too gutless to come out into the open and say it. The peace is just a nice guy front to the antagonism you feel from what we say, which shows that you are not sincere in your search for truth. You are only interested in information that fits into your pseudoscience model.

This is why we are laying out very clearly for you in a detailed, full disclosure reply, in conjunction with what we have already written in this thread to provide you with the big picture so you can see clearly what Eric is doing to your brain and the brains of everyone else caught up in FE. Anyone reading this can wake up to the mockery that is being made of their lives by Eric and those like him.

It is not the critical thinkers who are afraid to look at our work - it is those who are afraid to have what they believe in exposed as lies because of the humiliation to their pride, arrogance and righteousness. If we are at all sincere in going where the truth takes us, we must be prepared to have the lies we believe in exposed again and again and again until there are no more lies or liars.

Don't forget it was you who approached us to have a FB friendship with you and it was you who drew us on to your FB wall and now you are deeply concerned about others on your FB wall being exposed to simple everyday Fiona and Arthur, when the fact is we are ONLY focused on Eric and no one else, no disrespect to you or anyone else, it is just that Eric is the one who has been turned into the figurehead of FE. Refer to our first post in this thread for evidence.

We need ONLY a mouth, tongue, fingers, brains and sense to ask all the questions we seek Eric to answer, no pseudoscience required. Eric continues running away from us. Just blocks FB friendships with us.

Occultists only give us enough of the truth for us to trust them, but not enough that they lose power and control over you. This is how they manipulate us. To us, Eric has been initiated into the secrets of the occults for a long time, as revealed in his work for many years. He reveals the secrets of his predecessors, the Bad Guys, so that he is seen as the Good Guy by all the fanatics who have been duped but then he uses the same inculcation methods on those who have learnt to trust him and let him close to them. The pseudoscience destroys them all.

The greatest lies and liars are the ones closest to the truth - they cause the greatest damage of all because others learn to trust them. This goes back to what we are saying about how the duped lose sight of the big picture because they trust their occultic sorcerer, thinking they are in good hands. The wolves have got the lambs right where they want them. This is a classic cointel, psyop program used by occultists across their recorded ages.

"We will lead every revolution against us".

The blind are leading the blind.

Eric Dubuy is creating a cult of the flat earth movement. He is using and relying on the same ocCULTic practices of those who formed the cult of "The System" to bring about another cult, another version of "The System" under another guise but still a cult. We and all those before us have been brainwashed into the cult of "The System" and now we are being prepared to accept another version of the cult and you want to protect Eric from us?

You go to the extremes of using slander to push us away from this wall, as if we are a threat, when all we are is a simple family who don't want the four daughters we love and are responsible for to be forced into a way of thinking through peer pressure, which is all about discrimination and censorship, leading them to being dragged into enslavement in another cult, the New World Order, set to the pseudoscience rituals of calendars, days, weeks, months, years, seasons, celebration days, etc, that keep everyone trapped in it.

You may not see some of this now but the face of the next version of "The System" will reveal its ugly head as the occultists push forward to fulfill their agenda.

We are asking everyone who reads this to observe how this occultic practise is working in their heads. The collective generations of occultists behind their evolution of "The System" we are trapped in and waking up to today, lied about earth being round to build up the history of their pseudoscience lies that enslave everyone into the confines of "The System" because they are all fanatics to the pseudoscience they worship, which comes in many guises.

They are now allowing some of the truth to come out, tinkering with their pseudoscience to further mess with the slaves to change the way they think in readiness for their entry into the new cage. They are the cowboys prodding the cattle to make them move in the direction required, the electric shock being the reaction to the trauma as they discover they have been lied to.

When we recognise the adapted truth of pseudoscience being revealed, we are conned into trusting the pied pipers of prophetic disclosure like Eric so that we stupidly follow them to the New World Order of pseudoscience because we are still attached to and projecting the images of pseudoscience fanaticism pulling us in another direction but still inside the cage of pseudoscience, unaware of the inculcation working inside our heads.

This is a collective effort by thousands of practising occultist pied pipers to bring about the collective manipulation of image projection to create the New World Order. We have to learn to trust them so that their manipulation continues to work on us and we will do anything to create the world in the image of the cult idols we worship as fanatics.

All Freemasons practising the occults are sinister. The prophecies they want fulfilled require immense death and destruction to MAN and MAN'S dream of life. Refer to the Love For Life links for more on all this.

Mushroom Head Atomic Bomb
http://www.interestingfactsfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Sheer-Nucl...

Tree Of Life
https://www.askideas.com/media/78/Awesome-Black-Tree-Of-Life-Tattoo-Desi...

Ali, as we said earlier, the whole of creation including the celestial bodies is Earth and to us is the true shape of earth/life/creation. We are addressing the synergy of wholeness, no defined exclusions. A bird is not defined by a bird; the bird is defined by the whole of creation for without it there would be no bird. Earth is defined by the whole of creation, just as we are. Nothing of creation/nature can exist without the wholeness, the full disclosure, of creation/nature for everything to be what it is.

To us we sense that the shape of the tree of life and the mushroom shape of an atomic explosion is closer to what the living shape of creation/earth/MAN'S dream of life looks like. Forget the explosion and just look at the shape. The mushroom is the water firmament containing all the celestial bodies hanging, suspended over the "land" we walk on which is inside the mushroom head below the firmament. The stem of the mushroom/tree of life is the eternal expansion of MAN'S consciousness that forms the land we stand on.

A child in the womb is surrounded by water and all of creation is water. Ether is water, mist is water. There is no dust in space - all is water, the breath of MAN'S consciousness. It is quite possible that the whole of the firmament, the mushroom head, embraces all of creation, completely surrounding us, which is why the stars move across the sky and why we have night and day.

The crazy occultists destroyed the firmament, which is reforming but this is being hindered by the chemtrails, HAARP, etc, and other heavy metals, mould, fungus, nano-bots, toxins and poisons in the firmament. This is like trying to stop consciousness expanding; imagine trying to stop your brain from growing, so to speak. To keep it at a pea size instead of a watermelon.

When we see earth/nature as a synergistic whole, we can see that it is not possible to harm just one part of earth; the harm of any part of earth/nature is harm to the synergistic whole, hence the need to DO NO HARM. The FE theory denies the magnificence of the whole of MAN'S consciousness and, when we let it all reform, the natural colours of MAN'S magnificence will re-appear in the firmament. As MAN stops lying, everything naturally around us will change because we are changing and expanding consciousness magnificently.

The whole of the dream of life is who we really are (the video "The Dark Side Of The Moon" goes into this). By messing with the dream of life, we are messing with everyone. The whole of creation is MAN'S living consciousness but the occultists are trying to diminish the expansion of MAN'S magnificence. Who we really are does not end at the surface of our skin. The occultist are idiots if they think they will not be affected. They worship death and they are playing with the death of MAN'S consciousness because that is what has become of them, which is why they lie.

We are not saying that the mushroom shape is exactly like it is but this seems to be much closer to the living magnificence of who we really are than just a flat earth, a full lobotomy to the magnificence of MAN'S consciousness. A fuckwit occultist is playing God and doesn't want everyone else to fully wake up!

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Arthur Cristian
1st September 2016

Everything is twisted - There are many of us out there who have already been pushing what Eric is now pushing for many, many years prior to Eric knowing anything about Geocentricity, etc. Multi millions of brothers/sisters had already dived deep into the Geocentricity section of the Love For Life website well before 2009. Others out there have been pushing Geocentricity since the 60's/70's.

Eric Dubay is an intel operative brought in to hijack the truth (movement) of Geocentricity, etc, and turn it into a Flat Earth cult movement under their influential control. Refer to the links to our posts in this thread for more on this.

The Freemasons/Occultists/Satanists use their "We Will Lead Every Revolution Against Us" tactics to hijack all truth movements outside their control so that they can control all outcomes to suit their long and short term agendas.

One example of hundreds.... they hijacked and twisted the serious truth movement blossoming in the late 50's-late 60's in America and elsewhere by using all the mantras of the original truth movement and turning it into the hippie flower power peace (the hand signal and the white dove) movement of free love, sex and drugs, thus associating one with the other and creating a counter culture they were able to control and steer in whatever direction they want it to go.

Through the association of loose sexual morals, dope, LSD, other social and heavy drugs, orgies, free sex, hippies/"drop outs", rock and roll, etc, with do no harm, anti-Vietnam war sentiments, the clean living, morally correct men and women behind the true freedom and peace movement were white anted and white washed, their message no longer taken seriously and their integrity and credibility tainted because of the pantomime emerging around them. From there, the movement was gradually brought into mainstream which the Freemasons/Occultists also control.

This is how the leaders (controlled opposition) of the counter culture of the Hippie Flower Power movement pushed the hijacked truth movement, and as it grew and grew through mainstream, all those awakening to truth were conditioned to accept the free love, sex and drugs message now associated with the freedom movement, just as those waking up to the fact that Earth is not a sphere are hijacked to the FE movement.

All the counter cultures of "The System" are so close to the truth that those looking for truth easily fall into them if they don't see the big picture of the manipulation behind all the counter cultures. Those yearning for truth, freedom and peace are attracted to the counter-cultures but they don't see that the counter-cultures are just alternative enclosures in "The System", controlled by the occultists of Freemasonry because their system is a slave system and the slaves can never be allowed to be free.

The counter-cultures suck us in by giving us a picture that is very close to the truth but they don't give us enough information to see that our involvement in a counter-culture is just a continuation of our enslavement in another guise. We are given enough spoon fed information to bond to the counter-cultures but not enough to make choices of real freedom. The counter-culture becomes the release from the burdens of life under "The System" in the same way that Friday night is a release from the working week and a weekend away is a release from the boredom of everyday system life. The release feels like freedom but it is a fleeting, momentary freedom from obligation, not a real freedom.

We are conned into the counter-cultures because of the images of pseudoscience that have been put into our heads from when we are very young. This is why, when we feel hungry, we go to Maccas, even though the "food" from Maccas destroys us, and we drink water from the tap when we are thirsty, even though it is full of toxic chemicals to make it "safe" to drink, all a result of the destruction and pollution of our natural water ways. The freedom truth counter-cultures give enough info to bond us to the counter-cultures but not enough to make the choices of real freedom.

Our inspiration for freedom and truth has us go to the counter-cultures, just as the sports fan is inspired to go and watch his team, because the sentiments of truth and freedom resonate with us. However, just as the drugs and sex took over the freedom truth movement in America, so the modern freedom truth movements get taken over by FE theories, Gifting, Ubuntu and Sovereignty/Freeman groups.

We have come across many who are inspired by the Love For Life Kindom work but, because they don't see the bigger picture of walking away from "The System" completely in this life, they want to bring the bits of "The System" that they like with them, not realising that they are destroying Kindom by doing so. The Ringing Cedars movement has been hijacked from its purpose by Goddess worship, fake Spaces of Love that are still full of destruction and intentional communities resonating the Ringing Cedars mantras but actually led out front by trained operatives. Men and women are drawn into the cul-de-sacs of the counter-cultures, away from taking full responsibility for their lives.

The FE movement is a counter-CULTture hijacking geocentricity, relying on MAN'S inspiration and passion to use MAN'S will to enter into the the FE enclosure where they learn to graze in the paddocks of the counter-culture, eating the grass of truth and geocentricity but still trapped in "The System" ruled by administrators.

In our traumatised and dependent state, we are all so used to being spoon-fed in almost every area of our lives that it is very easy for us to fall into being spoon-fed freedom and truth, not realising that we can never be free, never be a MAN, while we are being spoon-fed "wards of the "state"! The whole of "The System" is about putting spoon fed images in our heads and getting us to own them and think that these spoon fed images are who we really are, that the thoughts in our head are real and that we are not spoon fed babies in adult bodies. When we are conditioned to a spoon fed freedom, the spoon fed thoughts in our head are coming from the manipulation of spoon fed images of freedom and have nothing to do with real freedom, of being a REAL MAN.

Most men and women are not comfortable with pseudoscience (spoon fed psyop programs for spoon fed drones) and don't like taking advantage of others (spoon fed babies/wards of the "state") and having to use and abuse others to get ahead and become spoon fed leaders in system life. As conditioned spoon fed drones, they don't think they are good enough to do it and they are discriminated against by other spoon fed drones (including freemasons/occultists/intel operatives) if they are not good at maths or other academic subjects.

This means that those who do not have such qualms are easily manipulated by the occultists to become the leaders of enclosures such as the FE movement so that all those inspired by geocentricity are spoon fed drones drawn in to graze on baby food for spoon fed drones, and in doing so, are handing over their full-responsibility for their real lives to those who maintain the paddocks but these paddocks are really cribs full of sedated babies sucking dummies.

Everyone in "The System" is up against a crime syndicate of occultists who control everything, with cross directorships in the media, entertainment, sport, finance, the judiciary, the political arena and big business meaning that only a small percentage of men and women need to be involved.

It is impossible to rise up the ranks in these areas without selling out to them. They then control those who they set up as their knights in shining armour of the "alternative" and "freedom/peace" movements, including the Green movement and global warming. Any sincere movements they don't start are hijacked to make sure that they don't come to fruition. All outcomes have to be controlled and we allow them to do this because we don't want to take full responsibility for our real lives, preferring to wear blinkers and have someone hop on their backs and ride them, taking the reins and steering their lives in the desired direction. The jockeys are those in local council, in politics, in the judiciary, the Police, etc. If we are not good horses, we are prodded, punished or sent for counselling. Anyone who really tries to escape the fold has to be brought back in or killed.

Intel operatives are used to infiltrate movements, whether groups on Facebook, the internet or those operating on the ground. Intel are brought in to cause dissent and distrust, attacking the characters of others, whether subtly or out in the open, so that groups cannot move forward and the seeds of doubt and distrust are sown in the thinking of those who are part of the group. This is all part of the psyop programming of "We Will Lead Every Revolution Against Us". There is nothing happening in the counter-cultures that does not pass across the table of those who control all outcomes. The cattle of sedated spoon fed drones must be kept peacefully grazing in their chosen enclosure, whether Flat Earth or another.

This is pseudoscience, when people think they have their real freedom because they have been so bamboozled that they can't see that they are still being spoon fed in an enclosure because they have accepted the spoon fed images that have been put in their heads to keep them there, still trapped in "The System" so that the occultists can continue to suck off the life energy of their victims, thinking that they are the chosen ones who have the right and the duty to imprison and rescue MAN. What they don't realise is that they are acting out their counter-culture too. Refer to this post for more on Intel tactics: To Be Educated Is To Have No Soul - The System Is Soul Destroying - Frederick Malouf & Michael Tellinger's Contrived Gifting - Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 1st September 2016: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8586

We accept the spoon fed images because we have been conditioned with pseudoscience from so very young. Who we really are does not end at the surface of our skin and earth does not end at the edge of land.The manipulation of both a spherical earth and a flat earth rely on this misconception. Eric relies on our projection of pseudoscience to keep us trapped, just as our projection of system images of food has us go to Maccas. We want truth so we go to Eric's FE counter-culture and live from there. The greatest lies are the spoon fed thoughts that have been put into us from very young.

When counter-culture leaders talk about injustice, we agree because of the images of men and women rising up against injustice throughout the recorded history of "The System" so we stupidly direct our real lives into these predetermined enclosures (psyop programs) because it is where we think our freedom and consciousness is. We are grazing on the grass of lies we have been fed.

All the counter-cultures are within the sandpit of "The System" that is based on a, b, c, 1, 2, 3 and these are the tools that the FE movement are built from. There is nothing outside the sandpit about FE; it is in the same basket as the provided food, water, shelter and saviours provided for us so that we think we have everything we need in "The System" of spoon fed babies and forget that everything we need is already provided for us by nature, if we are willing to receive it. We are conditioned to think that we have the best we can get, despite the suffering and sickness we see all around us.

When we don't see/sense the big picture, we are lying and accepting the darkness of spoon fed images, we are saying that we are shit because that is what darkness is. When we lie, as life in "The System" teaches us to lie, we accept the lie in our spoon fed food, in our spoon fed relationships, in our spoon fed jobs, in our spoon fed parenting, etc. We are saying that we are scum because we do not stand up to the lies and refuse to be party to them, just as all those behind the system are scum because they accept the lie of "The System" that they are promoting.

Eric's (potential) soul is beautiful but his lying makes him act like scum, if lying is what he is offering. Those who need to manipulate us to control us need us to behave like scum (spoon fed babies) so that they can maintain their power and control over us. This is why we go to so much effort to write these posts. The standard we all accept for our spon fed behaviour and the behaviour of those around us is lower than low because we have accepted the spoon fed shit so young we behave like shit, accepting the spoon fed lies and that those at the top have the right to lie to us. The deceit says that we are scum and so this is the way we behave, doing the most despicable things. Spoon fed babies are a nightmare.

Those of us projecting the shit will only be surrounded by shit until we choose to stop projecting the shit. Each of us have the choice to destroy the essence of who we really are and to just be the shit or to rise above the shit and be brave, honourable men and women who stand up to the lies. Each of us is deciding whether we want eternal life or eternal death. We can choose to be caught up in the fanaticism of lies and live the lies, or we can stop it. Pseudoscience tells us that we are shit and scum because 3rd party explanation defines our fake existence, if we believe in these spoon fed lies, and if we do, the lies make us feel that we are less than magnificent, which is shit. When we learn to doubt our magnificence, we doubt everything about us, which makes us self-centred, distrustful and fearful. "The System: is one large crib full of deeply traumatised spoon fed babies.

We should all be like the sun, radiating out the light of our soul for those around us to bask in, but we have become like suns who decide that we want to keep the warmth of our rays to ourselves, turning them in towards us so that those around us see only the black hole where the radiance of our light once was. This is why we can see death and destruction all around us; it is a reflection of our spoon fed behaviour, the black hole that we present to those around us and to all of life, covered over by our fake, shiny system personalities that we use to con both us and others that we are good people.

When we refuse to take full responsibility we are like the sun who says to all of life, "Hey guys, I've got an invitation to a party in Galaxy X459A70Y. I'll be gone for a few days and then I'll be back. Have fun!" So the sun disappears for a few days and when it returns all of life is no more, having died without the warmth and light of the sun. This is what we do to life when we turn our attention to the TV, to the latest car, what's happening in Hollywood, how much money we are making, who we are having sex with, etc, rather than being aware of the harm we are causing to all of life with our daily actions.

It is as if we were an ant colony, busily taking care of the young and the old, bringing in the food and cleaning out the nest, when another ant comes along and says, "Hey everyone! Have you heard the new fashion? It's called individualism; this 3rd party explained life is all about living for our dreams, choosing who we want to be and how we want to live. Each to his own!" So all the ants get very excited and run off to become spoon fed individuals (in-divide-u-all-s); some become punk rockers, some become politicians, some become bankers and some become property developers but meanwhile, the ant colony has fallen apart. The babies and the elderly are dying because no one is taking care of them and the nest of reality is completely falling apart with no one to maintain it. And then it is too late, complete annihilation has become them all - they created it.

This is what has become of all of us under our system upbringing; we have been taught to become self-centred individuals (spoon fed babies) who let everything of life around them fall apart and dies because we are too busy doing what we want (performing the psyop programs) without any thought of the consequences of what we are really doing.

As we are herded towards the New World Order (NWO), through the counter-cultures and other avenues, our fake values of contribution and consciousness will have us fall for a new system of quotas and eco living that will be so close to the truth of paradise but it will still be the shit relying on the pseudoscience psyop programs, no matter how much we think we resonate with truth. It will be pseudoscience freedom, pseudoscience truth and pseudoscience peace and if we don't see the big picture, we won't see the spoon fed death that becomes us and it will come on so strong that we will not see it happening.

We write these things because, at the heart of the matter is that we have to stop selling out and destroying our souls, which is what we do when we fall for the pseudoscience of spoon fed dummy food. Eric The Fraud is relying on what you believe is true to deceive you further. Why are we giving these people so much responsibility for our truth and freedom? Why be the darkness that spreads?

The baby should already be strong in the light, not a weakling in the darkness of spoon fed bullshit. The tree creates so many branches for the birds to build their nests on but the tree doesn't put a net around the tree so that the birds cannot get out. The birds are free to come and go as they please and the tree only has to be strong. Those who collude love the shit and those in the counter cultures stand up for the spoon fed shit and protect it, rather than being the well of truth for others to drink from, determined to go where the truth takes them at all costs. We are here to say no to the lies and point out how they are being used against us.

The counter cultures are only there because we do not feel we are strong enough to stand on our two feet and be strong so we come together in weakness (spoon fed reality) rather than in strength. If you believe you are shit, you lie and if you lie, you spread darkness, and others attracted to the lies come to spread the darkness too. This is what the FE movement is - it is shit because it is a lie and no one wants to rout it out because they prefer to be spoon-fed than to go where the truth takes them. Those caught up in the FE movement are still paying rent, mortgages, working as slaves, etc. They are still listening to the spoon fed psyop voices in their heads that they accept spoon fed shit believing this shit makes them feel strong enough to come together as a cult to resist a spoon fed foe who is out to get them all. This is what the NWO is built on - men and women accepting the NWO because they do not know how to be strong enough to stand and be a real MAN not raised by spoon fed bullshit and instead, they come together needing each other to be a strong, "ONE" world of spoon fed babies enclosed in a globalised crib.

We have all been trained to accept the shit of pseudoscience and we keep trying to dress the shit up so that it looks nice but we don't want to step out of it, preferring to remain in a system of broken down brainwashed slaves. This is where the arrogance of the occultists comes in - they are relying on the doubt in the magnificence of MAN to pull off their NWO. This is why we are here asking Eric The Fraud to come forward and show us how he is not lying about the FE theory. We have to be shut down to let another MAN come and take over our lives with their theories.

We confront the motive to smash it, to stop those who believe they are shit spreading the shit. All occults are lost in the fanaticism of the pseudoscience that comes as the Stockholm Syndrome manipulating and sucking people in while earth is dying around them. All the while we are busy thinking and talking about FE, we are too busy to stop the lies, too busy being and living as the shit so the shit continues spreading all-around and we are still in the shit, no matter what we are busy being involved with. We are accepting the scum so that we can live in the world of scum that is all about harm and destruction and nothing to do with stopping the lies that are causing the harm and destruction.

The occultists have no power among men and women who know who they really are and are creating their real lives according to their life is a gift, do no harm dreams.

We have written about how we see those behind Facebook tampering with the Love For Life Facebook pages; they are part of a mob mentality, a mob that censor and control people because they don't want to lose power so they are threatened by us. What they don't comprehend is that they don't need those around them to support their game of lies. The bottom line is that they all have the choice to choose the light of truth or the darkness of lies.

This is why we are not a movement - we don't need another MAN to stand by our side. Only the liars need a movement to back them, using censorship, discrimination, division, ridicule and abuse through their arrogance, ignorance and collusion to ignore the truth. They have made their bed in darkness and they are dying, despite all the power and glory and immense wealth. They are committing spiritual suicide, in a cult, bonded to death, being scum and wanting everyone else to be scum.

In spite of all the blocking on Facebook and everything these people do, they don't realise that it is their shit that they are wallowing in and we are free from it because we don't need a following.

Children lie because they are caught up in a culture of lying, just as they learn to bully because they are brought up in a culture of bullying, and they learn to have power trips because they are caught up in a culture of power trips. The FE movement is an extension of this lying culture.

The big picture is that the meat on the plate that we give to our children is Mary the Lamb and Josephine the Cow, but we don't tell that to our children so they eat the sausages, stakes and chops, even though they loved Mary the Lamb and Josephine the Cow. Then, as they grow, the become so used to eating murdered Mary and Josephine and so disconnected from nature (reality) that we no longer sense the suffering caused to Mary the Lamb and Josephine the Cow for us to enjoy the taste of their flesh and we accept the destruction to MAN'S EARTH because it is needed to breed enough animals (slaves) to fulfil our insatiable appetites for death to nature, to who we really are and what we are really part of.

Getting caught up in the FE movement is burying the head in the sand and refusing to see the bigger picture of just how dumbed down and enslaved we are.

Everything is twisted................ intentionally.

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
1st September 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8586
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8585

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Arthur Cristian
1st September 2016

THE FLAT EARTH SALE OF THE CENTURY - are there any suckers out there to take the lying FE bait and win it all?

From here: https://www.facebook.com/ali.dohadwala/posts/10154595600459789

Ali Dohadwala
31st August 2016

Ali Dohadwala to Jahnick Leaunier I seriously recommend you think long and hard about letting this snake oil salesman Arthur hypnotize your mind with his delusions. Peace.

18 hrs ago

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Jahnick Leaunier

I go where the truth takes me #RiseNShine #WayUp

Ali Dohadwala to Jahnick Leaunier I seriously recommend you think long and hard about letting this snake oil salesman Arthur hypnotize your mind with his delusions. Peace.

18 hrs

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Ali Dohadwala

This guy Arthur is a snake oil salesman. I could breakdown his delusional, hypocritical rants and expose his rationale but he is not even worth my time. Also I am disappointed that you didn't display ANY critical thinking yourself and agreed with ALL the conjecture this guy spewed. I would have stopped him in his tracks and seriously questioned his delusions before they even got off the ground.

Brother if you continue letting guests come on your show and talk nonsense I am surely not going to watch it. You did not prepare any questions beforehand and let this guy preach his "Gospel of Truth" and bought it hook, line and sinker. Very disappointed.

16 hrs

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Ali Dohadwala

According to him the "moon is being projected by our collective consciousness" and is a result of "satanic inculcation". You never ONCE questioned his assertion which is not substantiated by any evidence and is based purely off his be-LIE-f.

I thought you were a critical thinker, I was mistaken. Peace.

18 hrs

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Jahnick Leaunier

Let it be #RiseNShine I'm not in to force it on people . U see it or u don't u watch or u dont me I keep on climbing higher n higher. I'm not in for popularity I'm in this to seek the truth about myself in the first place .

18 hrs

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Ali Dohadwala

Sadly brother, you claim to be a Flat Earther yet allow people to come on your show and call us members of " A CULT OF DEATH" without rebuking them. I henceforth question your motives and will cut ties if you persist down your path of retardation. Peace.

17 hrs

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Arthur Cristian

You are unable to break Truth down with your bullshit pseudoscience Ali. How about a live recorded debate with us for all to see on YouTube? Lets see you back your claims big bro. Please don't tell us you can't back your claims and do not have the guts to confront us, openly, honestly and peacefully. If you have truth by your side then you have nothing to be concerned about. It's just a simple everyday Mum and Dad that you will be testing everything you claim with - shouldn't be hard for an intellectual giant like you to handle little ole us hey bro.

1st September 2016 7.00pm

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Arthur Cristian

LOLLLLLLL at Ali's comment "I got a message for all you folks trying to slander Mr. Dubay. Y'all won't succeed. It's clear to me you people can't destroy his message and so you are trying to debase his character. You are the same people who act self righteous and spread dis-info about FE. Your videos are retarded attempts at mocking the truth. You may fool many and lead them down a lane of retardation. However those paying attention can see through your fake facade and soon your dark ways will be brought closer to the light."

For a few years now, Eric the Fraud has been running away from us and it now appears a new lot of Flat Earth" fanatics we recently came across, Ali Dohadwala, being an example of many, have also chosen to avoid us too. All of Eric's bullshit FE work has been completely destroyed by us and both sleazy Eric and his fruit loop fanatics are just too empty handed, light headed and weak of heart to do anything about it. LOLLLLLLLLL What a bunch of sore losers. They refuse to go where truth takes them. Say's a lot about them.

1st September 2016 7.22pm

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Arthur Cristian
1st September 2016 7.28pm

LOLLLLLLLL the lying, sleazy scum. What a bunch of pathetic, gutless, frightened, dishonourable wimps..

A few minutes ago: https://www.facebook.com/ali.dohadwala/posts/10154595600459789 we get this. LOLLLLLLLLL

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af70/ILoveCasperTheGhost/FlatEarth17_...

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Arthur Cristian

And Ali Dohadwala wrote...... "According to him the "moon is being projected by our collective consciousness" and is a result of "satanic inculcation"."

Arthur Cristian replied.......

Bring forward a 1st party experience with the "moon" without a MAN being involved, Can you do that Ali????

If you can't then you only have MANS consciousness involved AND NOTHING ELSE.

Where is the lie here Ali......... ""According to him the "moon is being projected by our collective consciousness" and is a result of "satanic inculcation"" ??????

ALI IS A FUCKING IDIOT.. LOLLLLLLLL

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Arthur Cristian

This is what "TRUTHERS" do.... LOLLLL

The Magical Dark Knight, Eric The Fraud....... What a total fucking Idiot this fuckwit is.... LOLLLLL

Link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10210272535677875

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Rafi Allaouirdian

Matthew 15:18 ''But the things that come out of a person's mouth come from the heart, and these defile them.''

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Arthur Cristian

It is all in the intent Rafi and it seems you don't sense the intent of another MAN. You just project the inculcation you believe in, are attached too and are at the effect of, none of which is proof of fact.

Are you claiming to be this MAN'S heart/life/intent/soul?

If not, then why are you trying to hijack this MAN'S character/life so you can impersonate this MAN'S life/intention/etc, making it out that the claims you have made are coming from this MAN, when in fact you have made all this up out of thin air?

Why do you covet another MAN, a stranger you have never lived with or had any private intimate dealings with?

From where did you get the permission to act as a 3rd party re-presentative/expert-commentator of this MAN?

Do you love committing fraud, slander and lies because this is what you are really doing here Rafi.

Are you claiming exclusivity and privileges?

Do you come with exemptions?

Are you of a higher standing than another MAN?

Are you God Rafi?

This MAN describing truth as it really is, is not defiling.

There is no e-motional attachment to any outcome, no lying, no claim of hatred, etc, with another MAN. This MAN is instead sensing the reality/truth of another MANS intent/motive, the lying, the scheming, the deceit, the intent to do harm to others, the nefarious behaviour etc.

This MAN is providing full-disclosure, bringing impure intentions into the light of truth for all to see. This MAN prefers the light of full-responsibility/disclosure instead of leaving liars and their methods of deception in the dark of limited responsibility where many amongst us are still vulnerable to being manipulated by these voracious liars.

This MAN loves the innocence of all of MAN and will confront any MAN fallen to crooked ways and expose that for what it really is. Do you not want this MAN to love and serve all of MAN, to straighten the crooked path and make whole what has been shattered?

Do you have a problem with SHIT BEING THE SHIT it really is and directly addressing the MAN creating that SHIT?

Or do you prefer that we package horrific SHIT as a healthy piece of chocolate wrapped in a glistening wrapper?

Should we not protect the innocent Rafi?

Should the perpetrators causing immense harm to our brothers/sisters of MAN not be confronted and given an uncompromised reflection/description of their despicable actions?

Should we throw out full-disclosure so that innocent others don't know where they stand and therefore can't see the harm of a liar coming their way?

Addressing truth (reality) is sincerity and purity in intention.

This MAN has no interest in fantasy/illusion/delusion (trauma) wearing rose coloured glasses and be lost to inculcation practices, unable to face evil straight in the face. This MAN works with truth to get rid of lies and to inspire liars to walk away from lying forevermore?

This MAN is having a 1st party to first party direct sensory experience with others who are lying to this MAN and to this MAN'S family, friends, wider-community, etc. This MAN confronts directly with perpetrators to bring their collusion and deceit into the light of truth.

This MAN does not make things personal by sitting in judgement of another MAN.

But why are you doing this with strangers who've not had 1st party private, intimate dealings with, those who have not injured you?

Or are you saying that you have been injured by this MAN and are in need of justice?

If so, please bring forward the first party evidence of a physical injury and this MAN is not asking for a clever actor, under a demonic "state" of inculcation (practices), coming forward in 3rd party feigning the imagining of an e-motional injury.

Rafi, are you a 3rd party judge and executioner?

If so, who gave you such authority to do so???

This MAN would like to hear the power of this authority speaking directly from its tongue to this MAN and this MAN is not asking for a 3rd party re-presentative coming forward acting as the authority of a power that can't come forward and stand on its feet.

If by any chance you claim this power is coming from the bible, then do bring forward the bible in first party and not a 3rd party re-presentative acting in 1st party as an impostor of the bible. This MAN wants to hear it directly from the 1st party tongue of the bible.

And please do bring forward the 1st party you claim is the defiler and not a 3rd party impostor acting ((impersonating = committing fraud and slander) as the 1st party. Belief is NOT proof of fact. Lets hear it directly from the 1st party and not from you acting as the life/intent/consciousness/soul of this MAN

It is all in the intent Rafi.

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Link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10210273511582272

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Arthur Cristian

In the "mean"-time, that sleazy, lying, gutless pathetic wimp of a broken down MAN, Eric Dubay, keeps running away from us. LOLLLLLLL

Eric Dubay's Flat Earth Is A Cult - The Background To The System Part 2 - Arthur & Fiona Cristian Interviewed by Jahnick Leaunier of The Tru-Mon Show - 31st August 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCPWgEQg-2M

The Dark Side Of The Moon - The Background To "The System" Part One - Arthur & Fiona Cristian Interviewed by Jahnick Leaunier of The Tru-Mon Show - 24th August 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5TViw1NLr4

Eric Dubay's Flat Earth Movement Is A Cult This Thread Explains How And Why Arthur & Fiona Cristian Love For Life 27th Aug 2016 http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8585

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Arthur Cristian

Our latest post to Mighty Mouse Ali's thread

Updated & Edited With Much More Info Included - Copied From Here: Eric Dubay's Flat Earth Movement Is A Cult - This Thread Explains How And Why - Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 27th Aug 2016 - http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8585

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
1st September 2016

Everything is twisted - There are many of us out there who have already been pushing what Eric is now pushing for many, many years prior to Eric knowing anything about Geocentricity, etc. Multi millions of brothers/sisters had already dived deep into the Geocentricity section of the Love For Life website well before 2009. Others out there have been pushing Geocentricity since the 60's/70's.......... continued above.

All the best
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

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The Cristian Family November 2006

We Stand For NO SYSTEM

Kindom (Do No Harm Communities) is the dream for freedom, but it is the dream for the freedom of those around us who also live the dream of freedom, because it is in living for the freedom of others that we get our freedom. When we live for the dreams of Kindom of those around us, we live life as a gift because we live for (dedicate our lives to) their dream of freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, etc, just as they live for our Kindom dreams too. This is true co-creation (cooperation) with no attack on the uniqueness of each of us. When we live this way, we have no need for any man-made system - everything/everyone has already been taken care of by our love for life.

Just as we do not have to jump 10 feet across the room to grab our next breath, neither do we have to worry about food, water and shelter because it has all been taken care of as we each co-create Kindoms/Kin-Domains for everyone. Now everybody and everything of the dream of life that is Kindom/Paradise is free (has been set free once again). The issue is greed and selfishness, power and control trips, arrogance, ignorance, being fed many many lies and being traumatised. The issue is not overpopulation - there is more than enough land available for every family to have a hectare (2.5 acres Kin-Domain) to care for. The land of Australia can provide a Kin-Domain for every family across Earth, each with a food forest, clean fresh drinking water and plenty of space for building natural do no harm habitats and with plenty of land left over.

Everyone must have the freedom to take full-responsibility for their lives, for the water they drink, the food they eat and for their shelter. Currently, "The System" forces everyone to give up taking full-responsibility so that we become grown up children accustomed to sucking on the nipples of "The System" corporations for everything, having to use money to get by and to follow the rules of money because we are not co-creating freedom, peace, truth, joy and abundance for each other. Money only leads to haves and have nots and all the abuse, manipulation and distractions that we are subjected to as slaves to money.

When we give up living for other's Kindom dreams, we start creating hell ("The System") all around us because we become self-centred - now it's all about "my freedom","my money", "my land", "my belief", "my saviour", "mine", "mine","mine", "i","i", "i", "own", "own", "own", etc. To protect what we claim we own requires a man-made system with FORCE to protect those self-centred claims. This is ALL trauma based and all story-telling (brainwashing/braindirtying).

NO SYSTEM = KINDOM/DO NO HARM COMMUNITIES
NO SYSTEM = KINDOM/DO NO HARM COMMUNITIES photo Kindom_zpsa6d24e8a.jpg

Our true freedom comes when we set our thoughts of freedom into motion so that we live freedom rather than just talking and thinking about it while we still slave for "The System". Kindom will not happen while we meditate for hours in the bush or do yoga retreats or wait for Jesus or follow the processes of the OPPT (One People's Public Trust now called One People). This is not freedom because we are not living freedom because we are living the story-telling of Jesus or Zeitgeist or The Secret or Thrive or One Earth/Consciousness/People.

Living Kindom is very, very hard work as we set about repairing the damage to MAN/Earth/Nature that we are ALL responsible for but the burden becomes lighter the more of us put our life-energy into the dream of returning Earth to Paradise. Day-after-day, we all have to work our arses off until Kindom is all around us (MAN) once again. This is the price we pay to set each other free on a piece of land (Kin-Domain), so that no one is under the image-power (education/brainwashing/story-telling) of another MAN anymore and so that everyone can have their space of love to create and live their unique, do no harm dreams. This only happens once we have the Kindoms set up so that everyone is provided for.

Once we re-create the food forests, whether on land or in the suburbs, we can re-claim our freedom, breaking the strangle-hold of "The System" because we are no longer reliant on its services and benefits and no longer turning each other into slaves of "The System", cogs in the wheels of "The System" machine. If we don't put the effort in to set everyone and everything free all around us then we still live in HELL ("The System"). The key is to live for everyone else's freedom so that we can have it too.

From Bare Dirt To Abundance
A Year In The Life Of The
Love For Life Food Forest

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
8th February 2013
51 Minutes 46 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A

From Bare Dirt To Abundance Part Two A
5th November 2014
http://youtu.be/TPTPn8tgcPI
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8545

From Bare Dirt To Abundance Part Two B
Coming Shortly

We live for NO SYSTEM. We do not lose anything by not having a man-made system and, in fact, we gain. We gain our freedom and we gain abundance. Let go of the fear.

The Cristian Family November 2006

A Collection Of Various Love For Life Posts
Providing The Big Picture We See

Sequential Order

We ask you to NOT believe anything we say/share and instead use scrutiny like an intense blow torch and go where the logic of truth/sense takes you. This is very, very important. Put everything you believe up to the test of scrutiny to see how it stacks up. If you are true to your heart/senses and go where the logic of truth/sense takes you will find that NO belief, etc, will stand up to the test of scrutiny. They just do not stack up because they are lies/fraud.

After you have watched and read all the material and any questions are left unanswered, send us your landline number and we will use the internet phone as a free unlimited call. We are on Sydney NSW Australia time. Best times for us to chat are between 11.00am and 6.00pm.

It is critical that you fully comprehend Image Power, "Spelling", Trauma, Reaction To Trauma, Curses, Processing Curses, Full-Responsibility/Liability, Limited Liability/Responsibility (passing-the-back), Slavery, Senses/Sense vs Non-Sense/Senses, Re-Presenting Intellectual Property such as but not limited to "Name", Storytelling/Storytellers, Duality, Black-Magic, Belief, Lies, "i", All Seeing "i" (eye), etc..... These themes and others are covered over and over and over again.

If you do not comprehend these insights and are unable to use your senses to sense your way through all the non-sense/non-sensory-images that enslave MAN under their image power (darkness = "The System" = Hell), men and women will remain deeply trapped under a terrible state of trauma. Our intention is to inspire you to remedy by showing you how to move away from reacting to trauma in all its nefarious and devious forms.

His-Story/Her-Story (History)
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
2005-2007 - Re-posted July 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8529

The Dream Of Life Part 6
Under The Spell Of Intellectual Property

Arthur Cristian - 51 Minutes 52 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMK7CkU1ih8

Introduction To Kindom Video
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
6th March 2015
https://youtu.be/7SspPm9wRgo

Dancing With Magic (Lies)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Videos, Articles, Comments
And Pending E-Book
Love Fort Life
September 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8575

Dancing With Magic Part One
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
5th September 2015
https://youtu.be/hx7qJ7r2OS4

Dancing With Magic Part Two
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
12th September 2015
https://youtu.be/b_KuEFdKmnA

Dancing With Magic Part Three
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
13th September 2015
https://youtu.be/9pJc1NfnAcI

Dancing With Magic (Lies) Part Four:
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
16th September 2015
https://youtu.be/kSVURGwm1Go

The Dark Side Of The Moon
The Background To "The System"

Arthur & Fiona Cristian Interviewed By
Jahnick Leaunier, The Tru-Mon Show
24th August 2016
Love For Life - 142 Minutes
https://youtu.be/C5TViw1NLr4

Illumination IS Definition
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
26th to 29th January 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8577

The "Name" Is The Mark Of The Beast
The Strawman Identifying
Your Slave Status In "The System"

By Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
5th February 2012 - 56 Minutes 25 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdOag66v7uo

IMAGE POWER
The Nefarious Tactics Used
To Disguise Truth And Distract Us
From Remedy

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
24th January 2014
This post contains many recent Facebook comments
and email replies which collectively provides a big picture
into exposing the deception behind IMAGE POWER.
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8496

The Pull Of E-Motion
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
8th February 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8499

IMAGE POWER
Superb Diamond Range Interviewing
Arthur & Fiona Cristian 4th February 2014
http://youtu.be/qFnuuw3kLog
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8501

Trauma Induced Fantasy
July 2013 Interview With
Jeanice Barcelo And Arthur & Fiona Cristian
http://youtu.be/CZVj-ddUoZw
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8500

Processing Curses
A Lie Is A Curse
Liars Process Curses

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
26th February 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8503

How The System Is Really Constructed
Bouncing Back Curses Upon Curse Makers
To Stop Harm Forevermore

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
27th February 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8504

Slave To A Name
Parts One, Two, Three, Four,
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd to 6th March 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8505

Educated Slaves
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
20th March 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8506

The Only Path To Freedom
Beware The False Steps

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 2nd April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8508

Free-Dumb For All
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 5th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8510

Revoking The Ego
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 8th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8511

How MAN Commits Spiritual Suicide
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life - 3rd April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8509

How To Detect Intel Operatives Working
For The New World Order Agenda
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 10th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8512

How The Psyop Program & Intel Networks
Are Messing With Your Head +
His-Story/Her-Story

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8513

Godzilla Through The Looking Glass
Destroyed By Name"

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 20th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514

What It's Going To Take
To Co-Create Freedom Forevermore

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 22nd April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514

Falling For Fairy Stories
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 24th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514

A Disassociation From The Work
Of Kate of Gaia

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 17th May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8517

Separating The Wheat From The Chaff
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 22nd May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8516

Revolution Or Revolution
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 25th May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8520

Routing Out Psyop Programs
Routs Out Intel Operatives
Exposing Max Igan's Psyop Program

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 31st May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8524

The Psyop Program Scam
Behind Religion Belief Faith
& Associated Opinion

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
11th June 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8525

Another Delusion
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
11th June 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8526

A World Of Words Is A World Of Lies
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
13th June 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8527

E-MAN
The Name Of The Beast Is MAN

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 9th May 2014
Includes Mountain MAN Arrested
Facebook Discussion About "Name"
Uploaded 25th June 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8528

E-Motion
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 13th August 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8537

Discussion With Brother Gregory
Clearly Demonstrating Christianity
Is Part Of The Problem
And Not The Solution

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
Between the 12th May 2014 and 30th August 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8542

The Psyop Program Behind Free Food
And Permaculture

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
29th October 2014
Facebook Discussion With Unconditional Love Moon
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8544

Head So Strong
Music and Vocals Arthur Cristian
Backing Vocals and Vocal Effects Arthur Cristian & Hannah Wood
Lyrics Fiona and Arthur Cristian
Written during our spare time between Aug & Oct 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG4UQCTsqwU

The Time Of Trauma That Destroys Us
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
9th November 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8547

The Most Powerful Video On Spirituality
And Happiness FOR SLAVES
Or
How To Accept Slavery And Be Happy About It

Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
6th August 2014
Facebook Discussion About The Work Of Eckhart Tolle
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8548

What Can We Do What Can We See
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
A series of Arthur Cristian Facebook
posts and discussions
between 17th and 21st November 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8552

The Misuse Of Love By Intel Networks
To Create Doubt And Uncertainty
With The Intention To Destroy Love
And Therefore Destroy MAN
(True Freedom, Peace, Joy, Abundance And Truth
For Everyone)

By Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
26th November 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8554

The Void Of E-GO That Is Spiritual Suicide
The Justification Of Laziness
That Perpetuates System Creature Comforts
Ensuring Our Fall

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
13th December 2014
Massive Update Occurred 14th Dec 2014 3.10pm Sydney Aust time
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8556

Darkness Visible Part One A, B, C, D
The Freemasonic World In Plain Sight
Decoding George Washington Lithographs

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
14th December 2014
Part One A http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8557
Part One B http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8567
Part One C http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8568
Part One D http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8569

Darkness Visible Part Two
Yin And Yang, Duality, Spiritual Suicide
And Frank O'Collins UCADIA / One Heaven

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
14th December 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8558

Darkness Visible Part Three
How The Word Sausage
Re-Presents The New World Order
Boiling Point & Out To Get Us

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
27th December 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8560

Darkness Visible Part Four
Aleister Crowley - Thelema - OTO
And The Black Magic Psychedelia Of The Intellect

Facebook Discussion
4th to 10th January 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8561

Darkness Visible Part Five
Living MAN Fiona Cristian's Standing
+ Decoding Judeo/Judaism

Fiona Cristian & Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
24th January 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8562

Darkness Visible Part Six
The Many Fingers Of The Hidden Hand Appearing
YouTube Community Flagged A Video
Posted To The ArthurLoveForLife YouTube Channel
As Being "Hate Speech"

Fiona Cristian & Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
4th February 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8563

Darkness Visible Part Seven
The Full Responsibility For Setting
True Freedom For All Into Motion
In Present-Sense Forevermore

Fiona Cristian & Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
10th February 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8564

Who We Really Are Does Not End
At The Surface Of Our Skin

Arthur Cristian & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 22nd February 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8565

Introduction To Kindom Video
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
6th March 2015
https://youtu.be/7SspPm9wRgo

The Rot Parts One, Two, Three
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
5th June 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8571

"The Good Guys" And The "Bad Guys"
Working Together To Bring In
The New World Order

Arthur Cristian - 18th July 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8572

Can You Spot The Ego?
Where's Wally? Part One

Compilation of Facebook & Youtube
Insight Posts During Aug/Sept 2015
By Arthur Cristian
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8573

Can You Spot The Ego?
Where's Wally? Part Two

Compilation of Facebook & Youtube
Insight Posts During Aug/Sept 2015
By Arthur Cristian
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8576

Dancing With Magic (Lies)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Videos, Articles, Comments
And Pending E-Book
Love Fort Life
September 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8575

Dancing With Magic Part One
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
5th September 2015
https://youtu.be/hx7qJ7r2OS4

Dancing With Magic Part Two
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
12th September 2015
https://youtu.be/b_KuEFdKmnA

Dancing With Magic Part Three
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
13th September 2015
https://youtu.be/9pJc1NfnAcI

Dancing With Magic (Lies) Part Four:
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
16th September 2015
https://youtu.be/kSVURGwm1Go

Illumination IS Definition
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
26th to 29th January 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8577

The Satanic Craft Of Inculcation In Practice
Fiona's ACT Supreme Court Affidavit Explaining Inculcation & Illumination
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
4th March 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8578

The Dark Side Of The Moon
The Background To "The System" Part One

Arthur & Fiona Cristian Chatting With
Jahnick Leaunier On The Tru-Mon Show
Love For Life - 24th August 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8583

Eric Dubay's Flat Earth Is A Cult
The Background To The System Part Two

Arthur & Fiona Cristian Chatting With
Jahnick Leaunier On The Tru-Mon Show
Love For Life - 31st August 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8585

To Be Educated Is To Have No Soul
The System Is Soul Destroying
Frederick Malouf & Michael Tellinger's
Contrived Gifting

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
1st September 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8586

New Love For Life Kindom Facebook Group
Started March 2015
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1434747556816918
Includes 63 Minute
Introduction To Kindom Video
https://youtu.be/7SspPm9wRgo
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
and
Facebook Kindom Group Guidelines
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8566
The Love For Life website home-page provides
the bigger-picture background to the themes
touched on in this video: http://loveforlife.com.au

Crop Circles Are A Massive Hoax
Facebook Discussion On Simon Kawai's Wall
Involving Arthur & Fiona Cristian
31st August 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8470

OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
27th February 2013 onwards...
Part One: http://youtu.be/Qjp_9nlrBao
Part Two: http://youtu.be/tbybeOWZ-Bc
Part Three: http://youtu.be/yOWoxH-HbVw

Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 8th February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8350
Part One: http://youtu.be/4ze66_33wxM - 70 Minutes 5 Seconds
Part Two: http://youtu.be/43gIi-sjxJc - 81 Minutes 13 Seconds
Part Three: http://youtu.be/oooY6W63K-M - 70 Minutes 18 Seconds

What Do You Believe On Origins?
Who Said There Was A Beginning?
Who's Truth Do You Accept?
Belief Is A Strange Idea.

Discussion Lyndell, Scott and Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Between March and April 2013
Posted 29th October 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8487

So You Want The Good Bits Of "The System"
But Not The Bad Bits?

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 12th August 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8468

Turning Away From The Reflection
Of MANS Looking Glass

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
30th April 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8404

REMEDY

From Bare Dirt To Abundance
A Year In The Life Of The
Love For Life Food Forest

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
8th February 2013
51 Minutes 46 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A

From Bare Dirt To Abundance Part Two
5th November 2014
http://youtu.be/TPTPn8tgcPI
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8545

From Bare Dirt To Abundance Part Three
7th March 2016
60 Minutes
https://youtu.be/SH9i8ZStzWI

Love For Life Food Forest & Native Garden March 2016
Extension Of The Love For Life Food Forest And Establishment
Of A New Native Garden At The Front Of The Rental Property
In East Bowral - 24th October 2015 to Mid February 2016.
15 Minutes
https://youtu.be/y-Uz8HmnSIM

Control The Land
And You Control MAN On The Land
Displace MAN From Land
And You Turn MAN Into Slaves

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
April 2011 (Updated 14th September 2011)
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8237

The Divine Spark
Facebook Discussion With Raymond Karczewski
Arthur & Fiona Cristian & Others
2nd October 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8483

Capturing Another MANS Uniqueness
A Facebook Debate With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
And Raymond Karczewski
Starting 13th May 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8414

The Spell Is Broken
Taking The Land To Create Kindom

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8365

The Steps Of Kindom
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life 2006/2007
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

To explore these themes in greater detail go here where you can find links to all our Love For Life comments, articles, debates, discussions, videos, podcasts, etc: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385

All the best
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

Website: http://loveforlife.com.au
Email : action@loveforlife.com.au
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Peaceful Transition Through Sacrifice And Service

We feel there is an essential peaceful do no harm transition required to get all of MAN back to standing on MANS feet without reliance upon another MAN for water, food, shelter. As it stands everyone in "The System" are highly dependent and reliant on the "group mind-set" that forms "The System" of slaves providing services and benefits for the emotionally addicted slaves to "The System" (and you can put us in the same basket too). The transition is to get MAN back to relying ONLY on nature without 3rd party interlopers, intermeddlers, interceders getting in the way. The transition is a team effort with the foresight for setting all of MAN free down-the-line so that MAN is no longer dependent on slaves and masters providing services, benefits, privileges and exclusivity while being bound to contracts, rituals, procedures, conditions, rules & regulations which compromises MAN severely.

This transition is all about shifting from limited liability/responsibility to full liability/responsibility. This full responsibility is all about caring for our health, nature all around us, clean uncorrupted (pure) water and food, partner/co-creator, children, shelter, animal-friends in partnership, etc. In "The System", we are already together destroying each other - we have to come together to create peace together so that we can all have peace. We cannot live peacefully when we are islands, not taking full responsibility for the lives of those around us until EVERYONE can take full responsibility for their life, which means that EVERYONE is healed of system trauma. In "The System", we all come together to make slaves of each other - now is the moment to come together to set each other free, to live for each other's freedom, peace, joy and abundance. Once we have set each other free, we are free.

Control The Land
And You Control MAN On The Land
Displace MAN From Land
And You Turn MAN Into Slaves

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
April 2011 (Updated 14th September 2011)
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8237

The Spell Is Broken
Taking The Land To Create Kindom

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8365

"The Steps Of Kindom"
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

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Once we fix these issues, we or our children or our descendants to come, can start focusing on the even bigger picture of getting back to where our ancestors were, as breatharyan's, before they fell into non-sense images to be enslaved by them.

All the best to you and your family
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

The Cristian Family November 2006

The Cristian Family Declaration

The Cristian family and The Love for Life Campaign are apolitical, non-religious, non-violent, anti weapons, anti drugs (both pharmaceutical and recreational) and anti any ideology that denies the existence of Do No Harm Communities (Kindoms) and suppresses the uniqueness and freedom of all men, women and children.

The Cristian family and our Love For Life work is unaligned to any big business corporation, intelligence agency, government body, "system" law, "system" think tanks, "system" green or environmental movements, religion, cult, sect, society (fraternity, brotherhood, sisterhood, order, club, etc,) secret or not, hidden agenda, law or sovereignty group, occult, esoteric, New Age or Old Age.

The Cristian family supports and promotes the remedy that brings an everlasting peace, freedom, truth, joy, abundance and do no harm for all of life without causing loss of uniqueness or the need for having slaves and rulers. We are not into following the one in front or being shepherds for sheeple. Most importantly, we take full-responsibility for everything we think, feel and do.

The Cristian family are not Christians.

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

December 2006

The Cristian Family November 2006

THE CRISTIAN FAMILY PLEDGE

Being of clear brain, heart and intention, we each declare the following to be true:

• We have no intention of ending our own lives.

• We will not tolerate suppression of truth, ideas, freedom, or our work. We stand for freedom of speech.

• We stand together to support others in the expression of truths and freedom to speak out no matter how radical those ideas may seem.

• Standing for freedom takes courage; together we shall be strong in the face of all odds.

• If it is ever claimed that we have committed suicide, encountered an unfortunate accident, died of sickness/disease, disappeared, been institutionalized, or sold out financially or in any other way to self-interested factions, we declare those claims false and fabricated.

• We testify, assert and affirm without reservation, on behalf of all those who have dedicated their lives to the ending of secrecy and the promotion of freedom of thought, ideas and expression that we shall prevail.

• We Do Not Have Multiple Personality Disorders

Arthur Cristian
Fiona Cristian
Jasmin Lily Cristian
Emma Rose Cristian
Frances Hannah Cristian
Xanthe Jane Cristian

15th December 2006 (Edited/Updated 18th September 2011)

The Cristian Family November 2006

Update Regarding The Love For Life
Home Page And Quick User Guide

We are turning the Love for Life Quick User Guide http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608 into a blog of all the main insights of our work since March 2005, whether through articles, videos, podcasts or discussions/debates.

As we do not have the time to compile everything we have written into a book, as many have suggested we do, compiling all our most important work into one area of the website is a way of providing easy access to this work so those interested are able to fully comprehend the big picture.

Instead of having to find our different articles, videos, etc, in various parts of the website, it will all be accessible here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385.

Love For Life Videos

As amateurs and posted in the Quick User Guide below the Facebook links, we're currently creating and posting a series of videos called "The Dream Of Life" which covers the ground of all the Love For Life insights. We plan to have the videos completed by December 31st 2012. Once this is behind us, our intention is to create a 2 hour or so video covering the body of this work. All videos are embedded in the quick user guide http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608 and uploaded in Arthur's YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/ArthurLoveForLife.

Love For Life Music

We have started recording songs, with others, that express the themes of Love For Life. They are now being posted on Arthur's YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/ArthurLoveForLife and are embedded in the quick user guide http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608. We have over 100 songs to record. A few rough demos have already been used as the soundtrack on the first "Dream of Life" video.

About Us - Love For Life & The Cristian Family

Also, everything we, the Cristian family, have gone through, from bank fraud and the theft of the family home to death threats and attempts on Arthur's life, is documented in the Quick User Guide too. If you, the reader, are prepared to put the effort in, you will comprehend the extent to which we have all been tricked into becoming slaves, giving up our uniqueness and our full-responsibility for life and destroying everything of life to the point where life is in danger of dying out completely. You will also comprehend the remedy to all this chaos; a remedy that requires only love for life and the determination to do what needs to be done. Though our focus is very strongly on the remedy that creates a world of freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance and Do No Harm for all of life without loss of uniqueness or the need for slaves and rulers, we realise that it is vital to comprehend how to get there and what stops us from getting there. This is why there is so much information on the hows and whys of everything going wrong in the world today. We are not into peddling conspiracy theories, we are into routing out all forms of organised crime.

Saturday 26th November 2011

Arthur and Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

Website: http://loveforlife.com.au
Email: action@loveforlife.com.au
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1. For The Body Of The Love For Life Work by Arthur and Fiona Cristian

Which Unravels The Reasons For The Chaos, Mayhem and Confusion Being Experienced In The World Today, Explains The Need For "Community Immunity" and Responsibility, and Focuses On The Creation Of Kindoms - Do No Harm, Life-Sustainable Communities (As The Remedy That Heals All Mans Woes) - And How We Can Co-Create Them. For Comments, Articles And Discussions, Go Here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 - Also Go Here To See Podcasts And Videos Posted by Arthur & Fiona Cristian: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7309 - The Information Shared Comes From Inspiration, Intuition, Heartfelt-Logic And Information Gathered From Nature And Many Amazing Men And Women Along The Way. It Is Not Found In Any Books Or Channellings, Or Talked About By "Experts". Go Here To Read A Brief Synopsis Of Why We Started Love For Life: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8182

2. For Information About The Ringing Cedars of Russia Series

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1125 and for more on Eco Homes, Villages, Organic and Permaculture Gardening and Life-Sustainability, etc, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3641 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1985 and Mikhail Petrovich Shchetinin - Kin's School - Lycee School at Tekos: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5173

3. For How To Eat A Raw, Living Food Diet,

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5068 - LIFE is information. When we distort LIFE and then eat, drink, absorb, think, feel, hear, see, touch, taste, smell and perform these distortions, the information of LIFE, your LIFE, our LIFE, our children's lives, everyone's LIFE, is distorted.

4. To Find A Menu For The Extensive Research Library (over 8,000 items posted embodying over 11,000 documents, pdf's, videos, podcasts, etc)

Which Covers Topics From Health to Chemtrails/Haarp to Brain Control to Archaeology to Astronomy Geocentricity Heliocentricity to Pandemics Bird Flu Swine Flu to Fluoride to Cancer to Free Energy to Global Warming, 9/11, Bali Bombings, Aspartame, MSG, Vaccinations, Aids/HIV, Mercury, New World Order, Satanism, Religions, Cults, Sects, Symbolism, etc, etc, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/82

5. If You Would Like To Read About The Cristian Family NSW Supreme Court Case

(Macquarie Bank/Perpetual Limited Bank Fraud Condoned By Judges, Registrars, Barristers, Lawyers, Politicians, Public Servants, Bureaucrats, Big Business and Media Representatives - A Crime Syndicate/Terrorist Organisation) Which Prompted The Creation Of This Love For Life Website December 2006, And The Shooting And Torture Of Supporters Who Assisted Us In Reclaiming The Family Home, Joe Bryant And His Wife, Both In Their Late 70's, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5 And Read Some Of Our Email Correspondence With Lawyer Paul Kean - Macedone Christie Willis Solari Partners - Miranda Sydney May 17th-June 27th 2006: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7300

6. For The Stories Of Other Victims Of The System,

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/australian_stories (If you have a story you would like us to put up, we would love to here from you:
action @ loveforlife.com.au)

7. For Documentation Of Harm Done By The Powers-That-Be And Their Representatives,

Evidence Revealing How Victims Did Not Break The Peace, Caused No Crime or Harm, There Were No Injured Parties. Documenting Incontrovertible Evidence Demonstrating How The Powers That Be (PTB) And Their Lackeys Will Break All The Laws They Are Supposed To Uphold. They Will Kidnap, Intimidate, Terrorise, Rape, Pillage, Plunder And Lie And Take Responsibility For None Of It. All Part Of Their Tactics Of Using Fear And Trauma To Keep Us In Our Place. Relatives Of Those Under Their Radar Are Also Not Safe From Attack And Intimidation. All Starting From A $25 Fine For Not Voting And A $65 Fine For Not Changing A Dog Registration. We Do Not Have Freedom And Can Only Appear To Have Freedom If We Comply. Regardless How Small The Matter The PTB Throw Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars Away To Enforce Their Will.... Go Here:
Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office - Part One to Part Ten - From 17th October 2008 And Still Continuing:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6319 or
Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office
Part One: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5742 - From 17th October 2008
Part Two: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6135 - From 18th December 2008
Part Three: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6295 - From 9th January 2009
Part Four: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6296 - From 14th January 2009
Part Five: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6375 - The Sick Puppy - From 20th February 2009
Part Six: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6390 - Police Officers, Sheriff’s Officers, Tow Truck Driver and State Debt Recovery Office Blatantly Ignore the Law To Rape, Pillage and Plunder The Private Property Of Fiona Cristian - From 11th March 2009
Part Seven: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6445 - Affidavit Of Truth - Letter To The Queen + Australia: Fascism is Corporatism - From 30th March 2009
Part Eight: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6652 - The Pirates Auction And The Ghost Of VSL386 - From 4th April 2009
Part Nine: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7073 - Arthur Cristian's Letter To Pru Goward MP - From 15th December 2009
Part Ten: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7500 - Should We Be In Fear Of Those Who Claim To Protect Us? "Roman Cult" Canon Law - Ecclesiastical Deed Poll - The Work Of Frank O'Collins - From 13th October 2010

8. If You Are Interested In Information On Freedom From Statutes, Rule-Of-Law, Free Man/Free Woman, Strawman, "Person" and Admiralty Law (The Law Of Commerce),

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/895 - For Common Law, Democracy, Constitution, Trial By Jury, Fee Simple, etc, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/category/main/law-articles-documents

9. If You Are Interested In Banking and Money Created (Fiat/Credit/Debt/Mortgage/Loan/Overdraft etc) Out-Of-Thin-Air, How Banks Counterfeit Money,

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/banks

10. For A List Of All The Latest Posts In The Love For Life Website,

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/tracker

11. For Links To Many Hundreds Of Videos, DVDs And Podcasts

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/video_dvd

12. To See The Cristian Family Pledge, Legal and other Disclaimers

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/06/12/05/love-life-legal-disclaimer

13. To Read About How A Representative Of The NSW Jewish Board Of Deputies Had Threatened To Shut Down The Love For Life Website

go here: Part One: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6616 Part Two: THE STEVE JOHNSON REPORT AND VIDEO: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6665 and Part Three: Latest Update On James Von Brunn: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6673

Conscious Love Always
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
action @ loveforlife.com.au
www.loveforlife.com.au
0418 203204 (int: 0011 61 418 203204)
PO Box 1320 Bowral 2576 NSW Australia

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THE CRISTIAN FAMILY SUPPORTS
FREEDOM OF SPEECH - FREEDOM OF THOUGHT

The Cristian Family November 2006

Posted Wednesday 17th June 2009
Updated September 2011

NSW Jewish Board Of Deputies
Has Threatened To Shut Down
The Love For Life Website

No Freedom Of Speech - No Freedom Of Thought

Love For Life does not support harm doing in any shape or form. However, we are supporters of free speech and post articles, documentaries, etc, that represent a wide cross section of ideas. See the Love For Life extensive research library where over 6000 documents, articles and videos are posted: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/82. We clearly see the evidence of the destruction to MAN and the earth that has been caused by ALL religions over the centuries and are therefore not supporters of religions, cults, sects or any group that demands conformity of thought, speech or action, or has rules, regulations or rituals that must be followed. Religions, nationalities and cultural "identities" are formed as a result of the brainwashing we receive from childhood. They are part of the tactics the Establishment uses to keep us all divided from one another and fighting one another.

All religions promote discrimination and division, leading to hatred and even violence and murder. None of them have yet to produce a remedy to all the suffering, poverty, unhappiness and discrimination in the world. If any religion truly had the remedy to all the suffering on earth, there would no longer be any suffering. What have Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, atheism and the New Age done to end the suffering in the world?

Since December 2006, there have been many attempts to take down the Love For Life website. Any attempts have been thwarted by Love For Life supporters inundating the harm-doers with emails, etc, objecting to them taking down the website for a variety of reasons. The trouble makers usually back off when they realise that they can post all their views, arguments, beliefs, etc, in the Love For Life website without censorship or restriction imposed. They get to see that even the Queen, Pope, Prime Minister, President of America, etc, can post all their views without hindrance or sabotage and that we support freedom of speech/thought which means we support the right of all sides to express their views.

Of note, there is a vast amount of information posted in the Love For Life website which we do not agree with but we leave it all up because we refuse to be biased, opinionated or self-centered/self-serving. Of the many thousands of comments posted over the years we have only removed posts containing secret links to commercial advertisements, terrible foul language, threats of violence and death, etc, and attacks on other people's characters that avoid the subject/debate at hand. Besides links to advertisements, we have taken down less than six comments due to the above. We usually leave everything up, all warts and all, even those posts threatening to do terrible things to Fiona, our children, our dogs, our friends, family & supporters, etc.

The Love For Life website has information from all sides on many subjects, whether about Islam, Judaism, Christianity, Law, health, psychology, mind control, vaccination, aspartame, MSG, Chemtrails etc. There are over 11,000 articles, documentaries etc on the website and they are so diverse that we are sure that everyone would be able to find something they loved and something they hated, if they took the time to search. If we removed all the articles hated by everyone, there would probably be nothing left! We are not anti anyone but freedom of speech is freedom of speech and no one should condemn the work of another without taking the time to research the subject themselves. Yes, there are articles by those who have a less-than-rosy-viewpoint of Judaism, but there are also articles on the dark side of Tibetan Buddhism (and it is very dark) for those who are interested in the truth: Tibet - Buddhism - Dalai Lama: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6271 Should the authors of these articles be abused and imprisoned for daring to challenge the widely conceived reputation of Buddhism as being the religion of peace and love and that of the Dalai Lama as a saint, or should those interested be allowed to study the work and come to their own conclusions? The same applies to all the articles, documentaries, etc, about Christianity, Islam, Freemasonry, New World Order, etc.

The Love for Life website also shows how the Rule of Law, the Bar, the Government, the Monarchy, the system of commerce, the local, national and multi/trans-national private corporations, all the courses and careers on offer from our universities, all the educators, scientists, academics and experts, the aristocrats and the Establishment bloodlines have also done NOTHING to end the suffering in the world. The website maps the insanity of a world where there is no help for those in need, just as there was no help available for us when we were victims of terrible bank fraud: "NSW Supreme Court Case - Macquarie Bank/Perpetual Limited vs Fiona Cristian - Victims Of Bank Fraud Condoned By Judges" http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5 (orchestrated, condoned and protected by an international crime syndicate/terrorist organisation of judges, barristers, registrars, lawyers, politicians, banksters, big business representatives, media moguls and other lackeys who, all together, put up a wall of silence despite our trying many, many avenues. After the family home was stolen and business destroyed we were left close to poverty and destitution caring for 4 young daughters. Three years later not much has changed regardless of all our efforts. Where were all the followers of all the religions to help us? Or do we have to be members of those religions to receive help from others involved in them?

The New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies accused us of being anti - Jewish, see: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6616 and http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6665 because we had posted an excerpt from James von Brun's book: Kill the Best Gentiles: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6054 in which he blames Jews for the problems of the world. Obviously this is not our view because of what we have stated above. We do not hate anyone, whatever religion they follow. We are always open to talk to any religious leader or politician and meet with any judge, member of the Bar, experts, academics, educators etc to share the remedy we offer that heals all the divisions between MAN and MAN, and MAN and the EARTH.

Today, a representative of the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies is threatening to close the website down, because they have decided it is anti - Jewish and that we promote racism. What has the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies done to end the suffering in the world? Can they show that they are concerned with the suffering of ALL men, women and children AND ARE SEEN TO BE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT or are they only concerned with Jewish affairs? If so, they, along with all the other religions that only care for their own, are part of the problem, not part of the solution. The man who rang Arthur today was only concerned with Jewish affairs; he was not interested in our intentions or in anybody else, just as most Christians, Muslims, Sikhs, Catholics, etc, are only interested in their own. While we separate ourselves into groups, dividing ourselves from others with rules, regulations, rituals, procedures and conditions, we will never solve our problems.

No matter what we in the Western World Civilisation of Commerce have been promised by our politicians, religious leaders, scientists, educators, philosophers, etc, for the past two hundred years, all we have seen is ever-increasing destruction of men, women and children and the earth. None of the so-called experts and leaders we have been taught to rely on are coming up with a solution and none of them are taking full-responsibility for the fact that they can't handle the problem. All religious books talk about end times full of destruction and suffering but why do we have to follow this program when there is an alternative to hatred, mayhem and death? Why are our leaders following the program of destruction and death rather than exploring the alternatives? It seems that any mainstream politician, priest or academic are only interested in supporting the RULES OF THE DIVIDE, that maintain the haves and the have nots. For 200+ years, 99% of the world population have been so trained to pass on their responsibility for themselves, others and the earth, that the 1% of the population that make up the leaders of the rest of us are making all the decisions leading to the destruction of all of us and the earth. Let's not forget the education system that brainwashes the 99% of the population that we are free and have equal rights while, in fact, we are feathering the nests of those at the top.

At the root of all our problems is self-centredness, an unwillingness nurtured by the Establishment that keeps us concerned only with our own needs rather than the needs of others around us and the Earth. Instead of creating and releasing acts of love for those around us as gifts to benefit them and the earth, we take, take and take, until there is nothing left. The whole point of the Love for Life website is to show people the root of all our problems and to share the remedy. The extensive research library is there to attract browsers and to provide access to information not available through mainstream channels. If the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies can, after careful examination of our work, prove that anything we are saying is wrong, we will be happy to accept their proof. If they cannot, and they are still insistent on closing the website down, they will be showing themselves to be traitors to MAN because they are not interested in pursuing any avenue that can end the suffering in the world.

All religions, corporations and organisations that support and maintain the Western World Civilisation of Commerce are part of the problem because our civilisation is a world of haves and have nots, racism, violence, hatred, poverty, sickness, discrimination, abuse, starvation, homelessness, corruption, collusion, vindictiveness, social unrest, arrogance, ignorance, fear, war and chaos. While we support civilisation, we support death and destruction because ALL civilisations that have ever existed are apocalyptic by design.

If we truly want peace on earth and freedom for all, we have to let go of all that which keeps us divided, and come together as MAN, conscious living co-creators of creation. The Love For Life website offers a remedy to the problems we all face in the form of DO NO HARM COMMUNITIES: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3641 For more details see here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6511 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 - We also highly recommend that everyone read the brilliant Russian books called The Ringing Cedars: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1125 - The Love For Life Website Homepage also provides lots of inspiring remedy based information: http://loveforlife.com.au - If you want to be kept up to date with our work please register to the Love For Life Mailing List here: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/09/05/14/mailing-list. We usually send two postings per month. Presently (September 2011) there are over 7000 registrations reaching over 500,000 readers across Earth. The website now (September 2011) receives up to 12 million hits per month. Since December 2006, over 100 million people have visited the Love For Life website.

Conscious Love Always
Arthur and Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
17th June 2009

The Cristian Family November 2006

Clarification Regarding Our Intentions
Behind The Use Of Donations

The Love For Life website is offered for free without a fee and without any conditions attached. If people are inspired to donate money, then we accept their gift and have provided an avenue for them to support the work we do through Fiona's Paypal or ANZ bank account http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8515. There is no obligation whatsoever to donate and all are equally welcome to our work and to our "time", whether they donate or not. Over the last 9 years, all the Love For Life work has been put out for free and it has often been donations from supporters that have enabled us to renew the domain name, etc, to keep the website going. While some complain that we have an avenue for donations, others complained when we didn't! Either use it or don't - the choice is yours.

Since Love For Life started March 2005 and website December 2006, Arthur has worked 16 hours a day, 7 days a week unpaid for much of this period, putting together the website and sharing insights to wake people up to what has been done to them, whether through the 11,500+ individual articles, videos, podcasts, debates, discussions, pdf's, research documents, etc, found amongst the 8,500+ posts, as well as helping many, many men and women over the phone, and through email, website correspondence, Facebook and YouTube, and creating the Love For Life food forest vege garden and Love For Life music recording studio. This is our life is a gift commitment to serve MAN/Nature/Earth but we are still severely compromised by "The System" and still have to give to Caesar what is claimed to belong to Caesar, which is where the donations help us.

Fiona & Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
21st July 2014