A Spell-Master At Work by Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 21st April 2013

The Cristian Family November 2006

A Spell-Master At Work


By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

21st April 2013

This 11 minute 44 second Max Igan video "Painting Mankind Into A Corner" Part 2: http://youtu.be/ImgOHAGd_4I (embedded below) is a spell crafted to keep us apart, divided and individualised. It is a spell to prevent us coming together to form tribes where we take care of the land without the need for a system to control and manage us and the land. The spell is telling us that we cannot form community immunity so that we all take care of each other and harm done to one is harm done to all.

An ocean is formed by water droplets merging and working together; if the droplets all went their separate ways, what would become of the ocean? If the droplets decided to go within, taking their life energy away from other droplets, what then? Can a droplet be an ocean without other droplets? If all of nature went within, there would be no Earth, no forests, no mountains and no valleys.

So how will going within help us to get out of "The System"? How does going within bring freedom, truth, peace, joy and abundance for all of life without loss of uniqueness/originality and without the need for slaves and rulers? If we cut our bodies open to look for within, all we will find is organs, glands, bones, tissues, cells, etc, consisting of water. If we keep going to the other side and out, we will find more water. All of life is connected to all of life and, when it is not distorted and corrupted, there is nowhere in life that water is not. Water is living-sensory consciousness. We CANNOT go within to consciousness when we already are consciousness. We cannot cut our lives off from life without affecting life. Searching for freedom when you already have it will never set you free. Our true power is not found within; our true power is in coming together with no back door to clean up the mess we are all responsible for and co-creating the paradise we all dream of. We don't need to go within to do this.

As a gift of life we need to shine out our love and our power to share it with those around us. If we are all shining our love and power out for all, as the sun shines its rays, then we are all receiving the warmth of that love and power. If we are all going within, none of us are shining our love and power for the benefit of life and we are not receiving the warmth of that love and power. If the sun decided its outgoing expanding rays of light would now turn back on self into its within, where the sun once was would now be jet black darkness, a black hole void of life. It would no longer exist, the flames of life have faded away into oblivion. The spell of going within disconnects us from consciousness causing spiritual suicide because we have fallen into the reflection of consciousness that is the image taught to us by another man or woman. When you are thinking about being conscious, you are not being conscious.

Going within keeps us in-divide-u-all-ised and powerless. While we are all individuals, we will never achieve anything because we are all pulling in different directions rather than being the drops that form the ocean, not one the same as the next but all part of the whole, all co-creating the ocean.

Who says we can't get together in large groups to form our tribes? Who says that getting together is just about listening to speeches? Why can't we put our collective energy into creating food forests to feed us and creating shelters for all of us? Living as tribes in Kindoms is co-creating freedom, truth, peace, joy and abundance for all of life without loss of uniqueness/originality and without the need for slaves and rulers and no Waco scenarios, in the lives of all those around us. This is our true power. Everybody lives for the tribe and the tribe lives for everyone. Together we carry the weight of our full responsibility to the dream of life that is the tribe so that none of us have a heavy burden. When we go within, we are giving up that responsibility, not taking our share of the weight. As people come to a tribe, they take on some of the weight of the responsibilities of that tribe, doing what needs to be done for the tribe. It is a team effort. When we observe nature, we can see that all life forms take their share of the weight of the responsibility that is the forest. They live for the dream of the forest. All the life forms of the forest make up the forest and the forest takes care of all the life forms. The forest is the dream of all the life forms of the forest.

To break out of "The System", we need to create the Kindom tribes that are our forests. This means men, women and children coming together with no back door to do what needs to be done, to work with discipline and dedication until the tribe is fully formed and strong. We can't be half-there, semi-committed, "I feel like going to the beach for the afternoon", "I'm just disappearing for three days to meditate in the forest". Who takes on their workload whilst they are gone? When we have the strength to disconnect from "The System" and the infrastructure in place so that everybody has shelter and food and we have Kindoms spreading all across Earth, then we will be able to enjoy Earth's beauty knowing that nobody is having to slave for us to have our play. Until then, it is head down, tail up, hard at work with a splash in the river at the end of the day to wash off the mud. There are always going to be distractions to tempt us away from our responsibilities; it is up to us to recognise them so that we do not allow them to distract us from our purpose. Do No Harm, Life is a Gift and Community Immunity are the pillars Kindom is built on.

Imagine if the sun said, "Hi guys, I am off to galaxy 45xy321z for a break and will be back in a few days." What would happen to all the life forms that rely on the sun for warmth, light and nutrition? Life as we know it would no longer exist. The sun perpetually shines in present-sense as that is its FULL responsibility to the dream of life just as it is our responsibility to shine life on the dream and the labour of Kindom so that the Kindom dream may live in present-sense too. Living the dream of Kindom is shining our light on the lives of those around us by creating freedom, truth, peace, joy and abundance for all of life without loss of uniqueness/originality and without the need for slaves and rulers and no Waco scenarios, in the lives of those around us. Just as the sun radiates it's warmth, so we have to radiate freedom, etc, into the lives of others by taking on the responsibility of making sure they have that freedom, etc. This is what "radiating" means; radiating that freedom, etc, in their lives. This means you have to stand up for it, to be present to freedom for them and be counted on. This is the basis of community immunity because you won't let anything get in the way of that freedom. How can you do this when you are going within?

If you are not present to the dream of life, you are not committed and cannot be responsible for it which means that you cannot be counted on. When you are present to the presence of life, you are being responsible for the dream of life. Otherwise you are not present and cannot be responsible for it. To go within is to neglect our responsibilities to the dream of life because, while we are focusing on our within, we are not focusing on life. Anything less than life is not freedom, is not truth and joy, etc. It is compromised and empty. While we live for the car and the journey of the car, we make that our responsibility and this is what we live for. But while we live for the dream of the journey of the car, we are also living for the destruction of Earth because that is what a car represents, and we are taking responsibility for destroying Earth. Taking responsibility for the image of consciousness provided for you by someone else is not being conscious. Taking on someone else's image of what it is to be spiritual is not being spiritual.

The New Age is full of men and women thinking they are spiritual and conscious when all they are doing is acting out the image, the reflection of that spiritual consciousness given to them by other men and women telling them how to think, feel and act about spiritual consciousness. This shapes a falseness in how they show up and makes them lost - they are not taking responsibility to be conscious in present sense because the image of consciousness they re-present is in past tense. It is not present with the presence of life because they are not living it, not taking responsibility for their consciousness being present with the presence of life. They give up the freedom, truth, peace, etc, that they already have to go on a journey to find it, looking to the creator, source, God or Higher Beings to show them how to be it. This is the falseness of their act. This is giving up power and full responsibility to the force behind whoever they are following as they allow that force to tell them how to think, feel and act.

The reason people find it so hard to get together and create tribes is that most people do not want to take on the responsibility of being a Kindom tribe, of taking on the weight of that tribe. They prefer to sit around complaining that they don't have it and talking about how to do it but not actually doing it because they do not want to give up the self-centred distractions that keep them from being the tribe. We have to be a tribe, to live it and this means giving up everything that is not beneficial to the tribe which is everything that is about "me", "mine", "I", "own" and anything that comes along to take you away from your responsibility to the dream. If you start a relationship with someone, that relationship should be adding to and supporting the dream of Kindom, not diminishing it. If we keep the image of the tribe at arms length, we will never reach it. If we want to be part of the ocean, we work with all the other droplets in the ocean. We cannot be part of the ocean while we are on our individual droplets journeys with our individual droplet truths. A tribe can start with the attitude of just two people who take responsibility to care for each other.

Of course we can't please everybody and why should we try to? If some do not want to create freedom, truth, peace, joy and abundance for all of life without loss of uniqueness/originality and without the need for slaves and rulers then there is no one pointing a gun at their heads but why should we be limiting our actions, providing we are doing no harm, based on what they are thinking. Not getting together because some people might not like it is ridiculous!

Going within is reminiscent of the Dalai Llama telling us that to find peace in our environment, we must first find peace within. This is telling us to accept the chaos, accept the harm and accept the destruction around us. Instead of accepting this, shouldn't we be standing up to the chaos, harm and destruction? Should we be peaceful when we are cogs in the machine that is "The System" that is causing so much destruction to life? While we accept the chaos, harm and destruction, we are perpetuating it. While we look for justifications to keep "The System" or not to stand up to "The System", we are supporting and maintaining the chaos, the harm and the destruction. While we don't stand up for each other, we are perpetuating the chaos, harm and destruction of our brothers and sisters of life. This is apathy, being trapped in the reflections of truth, peace, etc. While we accept "The System" in our lives, "The System" is still present in our lives. If we do not want "The System" in our lives, we have to take responsibility for not having it in our lives and in the lives of those around us.

The true purpose of the message to go within is to keep us from creating the dream of Kindom because this is the only way to get rid of "The System" This is also the reason behind the Boston Bombings, 9/11 and every other harm doing event going on that sucks our attention and energy so that we are no longer giving our attention and energy to Kindom. We could write a thousand books about the various forms of distraction that keep us from creating Kindom, all there to make us feel powerless and that we cannot take on that responsibility. Anything less than Kindom needs a man-made system and this is what those behind "The System" are working on; they need us to need their system so that we accept the latest version, the NWO. This is what OPPT is all about, what Thrive is all about and what Zeitgeist is all about. If these movements succeed, we are a step along the path to the NWO. If they fail, we are persuaded to accept what those behind "The System" have to offer because we have fallen for the story that we are incapable of choosing freedom, truth, joy, etc, for our lives and the lives of those around us. Thus, we are also prepared for the next "movement" they throw at us, possibly Frank O'Collins Ucadia. "We Will Lead Every Revolution Against Us," they said, and, while everybody is still going within and being distracted, they are being lead, still sucking on the nipples of their private corporations, through their "revolution" to the next phase of their game plan because they have not taken the FULL-responsibility to have no system in their lives and in the lives of those around them.

No, we do not need to point fingers at each other; we are all the result of system brainwashing, including the Freemasons and the powers behind the smokescreens. However, this does not mean that we should not thoroughly scrutinise information to see whether it is truth or lies, whether there are good intentions behind it or not. We have no need to attack the MAN sharing the information but to point out that information is not leading us to freedom, truth, peace, joy and abundance for all of life without loss of uniqueness/originality and without the need for slaves and rulers is not pointing the finger. It is clearing the fog so that we all may see clearly what we are putting our energy into, the images we are setting into motion.

It only takes one lie mixed into a mountain of morally correct truths to cause all the damage. The greatest lie/liar is the one closest to the truth. If we don't learn to recognise the lies, we will never find truth. It is the lies that separate us and the lies that we cling to. We can't form community immunity when we are separated and divided. The actions of each of us affect all of us. We cannot each create our own world based on our own beliefs without causing the mess we are part of today. "The System" has not served us in any way - all 'The System" has done is taught us to destroy who we are and what we are really part of. It has filled our brains with non-sensory images that teach us to forget our true purpose, distracting and tempting us into creating our "selves", our "journeys" and our "inner peace" rather than co-creating and expanding the dream of life that is peace, freedom, truth, etc.

The visual images in this video are strange. They are of nature, and yet it is not real nature. Nature is altered and mystified and there are buildings ("The System") entwined amongst nature. There are ancient pyramids, mystical writing, faces and statues suggesting Buddhism and meditation, orbs of light, floating, sparkling lights and images reminiscent of the all-seeing-eye. All these images are of "The System", of occultic, esoteric black magic crafts and practices. The combination of the slow, hypnotic tones of Max Igan, the ethereal, mystical, cosmic images and the message that we cannot get together send out the steady message of "The System", "The System", "The System".

The spell being cast here is telling MAN to be less than MAN, to give up full responsibility for being the MAN of freedom, of truth, of joy, etc, in present sense, and for radiating that all around. If this is not present, then we are not MAN. This is committing spiritual suicide. If we are not fully MAN, who are we? And if we give up everything that it is to be MAN, then we are nothing of MAN. Therefore, we have committed spiritual suicide. The dream of life that is the dream of MAN has been given up, forsaken, rejected. It is no more.

For those new to the Love For Life work who would like more information on the bigger picture, go here http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8369 to find links to all our mostly recent videos, articles, debates, discussions, podcasts, etc.

Links to all discussions we've had with Max Igan can be found here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8359

Max Igan & The Fraud Of The OPPT (One Peoples Public Trust - 17th to 19th February 2013: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8422

OPPT Facebook Discussion Started By Gypsy Rob 20th February 2013: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8466

OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit - The Scam Of UCC And CVAC - 27th Feb 2013: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8421

Another Facebook Conversation Between Max Igan And Arthur & Fiona Cristian - 2nd July 2013: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8467

The Continuation Of The Max Igan Saga - 21st August 2013: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8478

All the best
Arthur and Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

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The Cristian Family November 2006

Another Facebook Conversation
Between Max Igan And Arthur & Fiona Cristian


2nd July 2013

Max Igan sent us this Facebook PM Wednesday 2nd July 2013 16.07pm

Max Igan sent us this Facebook PM Wednesday 2nd July 2013 16.07pm: "Hopefully this REALITY will give you pause to question your actions before spreading lies, hatred and false information about others in future Arthur... have a nice day brother. :) https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10151533809384022&id=1... "

We replied....................................

Max, the issue here is we stand for NO SYSTEM. We will do everything we can to expose and obliterate any idea or concept, sugar coated or not, that supports "The System", a man-made system under any guise. The NWO is "The System" under another guise, it will look something like Star Trek Federation in Nature. The NWO will be brought in by all the "Good Guys" bringing a new "oneness order system" to the present chaos engineered by the "Bad Guys". We know all the trickery going on to give the "duped", the impression that "serfs/commoners" are making headway with the courts of "The System".

Having some mini "slave victories" is allowed by FORCE. If they want covert control to remain in tact, they can't always be seen to be despotic/overt. This is allowed to happen and besides, the FORCE behind "The System" have planned, when it suits them and when they are ready, to cause the present western world system to completely collapse so they can usher in their next "oneness" version of it. As an example of many: One Peoples Public Trust now called One People.........

ONE PEOPLE

ONE SPIRIT

ONE WORLD - World means "The System" - the world is not Earth/Nature.

ONE HUMANKIND - Hue-MAN - a shade/colour/reflection/shadow of MAN - In this case the reflection/image projected by a MAN upon another MAN is "oneness". The intention is to trap a MAN under another MANS image-power/spell which happens when a MAN believes in the "story-telling" (spells) of "oneness". This is blatant social engineering.

MANKIND/HUMANKIND - means a kind of MAN as in monster, monstrosity, distorted, brainwashed, idiot, fool, robot, clone, drone, slave, etc. We are MAN, all unique and original, not one the same as the next. Mankind/Humankind re-presents a shattered reality.

ONENESS means SAMENESS as in Communism and Socialism - The correct word to use here instead of one/oneness is WHOLE/WHOLENESS (meaning: NO SYSTEM) which recognises the uniqueness and originality of all of MAN without conformity to social engineering which "oneness" (sameness) is all about.

"One" is lineal, has a beginning and an end (finite), therefore is trauma based (explained further down), is a lie, believers commit fraud when they claim "one"/"oneness" is true. "One" is projected, based, imagined in/from the past and in/from the future (explained further down). "One" does not exist, is non-sensory, meaning you can't sense "one", you can only fantasise "one" because "one" is not present with the presence of life embodied in its image to sense (touch, taste, feel, smell, hear, see) it. Thanks to trauma, "One"/"Oneness" re-presents a shattered reality.

Note: Children brought up in the "wild" by "wild dogs", etc ("The System" brainwashing calls them "wild animals" in the "wild" of nature as in dark, scary, hostile, not safe environment), who are discovered and brought back to "The System" (civilisation) do not recognise the reflection of themselves in the mirror. These reflections are seen in "3rd person" and until "The System" brainwashing sets in they always communicate in 3rd person This is exactly what we would all do if we were truly conscious (not brainwashed) because there is no 1st or 3rd person. All is WHOLE. However, from "The System" side of looking through the window of our extensive repetitive, pounding, brainwashing we see everything of 3rd person as 1st person, i.e, "name" on birth certificate, drivers license, "one"/"oneness", etc, believing these reflections is who we really are when in fact these reflections are not who we really are. Someone else trained us to think, feel and act in this way. Again, recently a Russian girl, around 11 years of age was discovered. She was brought up by wolves since around age 3. She did not recognise her "i" (eye) in the mirror and communicated in 3rd person. If she was with her family of MAN living in the "wilds" and raised by tribal-MAN all around her and without "The System" brainwashing she would be a living WHOLE example of conscious-living-MAN on land in present-sense. Currently, for those of us really waking up, it may appear to the brainwashed that we are talking in 3rd person about Nature, Earth, MAN, Life, but when we are using our senses we sense/see, in present-sense, that we are air, water, leaves, trees, birds, wind, sunlight, rain, dogs, mountains, river, Earth, Nature, Life, etc, etc.... The first party/person "i","i", "i", "mine", "mine", "mine", "own", "own", "own", "one", "one", "one", etc, (shattered reality), does not exist and without it there is no 3rd person ("i"/"one")) either because we are already WHOLE, meaning we are already the unique and original of that WHOLENESS.

All these "successes" that you are seeing, and will continue to see, are part of the orchestrated plan, the blueprint, the agenda. Many of these victories, with a vast majority still to come, require a team effort of actors (judges, barristers, lawyers, politicians, priests, experts, plants portrayed as heroes, etc, etc), all in on the scam to dupe the people into believing, now and down-the-line, that the "bad guys" world is collapsing and the "Good Guys" are winning. Unless we keep waking the people up, the duped will not see/sense they have been had, got-at & set-up. They will not see/sense how they have been deceived into accepting "THE SYSTEM" GLUE of "oneness" binding them all together as "one people", "one spirit", "one consciousness", "one system", etc, etc.

This is not the first time those of "The System" have collapsed one version of "The System" and brought in another version (the phoenix rising out of the ashes - order out of chaos). They need to have the "bad guys" exposed by the "good guys" (hello Heather) so that we all start looking around for something better but very few wake up to the fact that the "something better" is just the next version of "The System" the duped are blindly being led into, with the same image-power-based families behind the scenes, the heads of the Star Trek "Federation in Nature".

We all know that they cannot use overt means to keep us under control. There are too many of us and they would have to be in constant struggle against us because we would rebel. So they use covert means to guide us into submission through propaganda that plays on our trauma, causing enough reaction in us to keep us malleable and enslaved. The marketing campaign for their 1000 year Golden Reign is obviously not going to come about with overt displays of force. Far easier to get us wanting, asking and longing for their 1000 year Golden reign. It's not as if the Knight's Templars have not already done this many times before, coming out as the heroes to rescue us from slavery, tyranny and oppression.

We don't see anything here that has not been done before with different processes. There are many "successes" in all areas of protest using law. Why? Apart from occasions where magistrates, etc, are just not good enough to think fast on their feet and deal with clever men and women who have done their homework, when we have and see successes, we are encouraged and think we are on to something and keep investing more and more of our energy into our processes which means more and more of our energy into "The System". Do you think they care?????? So long as we are still putting our energy into "The System", they are happy because it is our energy that keeps "The System" going. We have already explained this to you in great detail. They do not care how much we protest and argue just so long as we keep using their information, sleeping in their houses and using their private corporations. Which is what everyone involved in One People is doing. They are all still plugged in.

We could start bragging about the many successes Arthur has had against "The System", some involving $300k to others where tens of thousands of dollars were spent trying to get Arthur (and Fiona) to pay the SDRO a measly amount of $$, but these victories are still not a remedy that gets everyone out of "The System". With the method that Arthur has developed over the last couple of years, NO PAPERWORK is required. He is strong and smart enough to blow them all out of the water really fast. Recently, even the SDRO have sent him a letter offering Arthur to take back his drivers licence... LOL... all this after trying everything to con Arthur (and Fiona) into contracting with them. Refer to Letter Received From Roads & Maritime Services Offering Arthur Cristian His Drivers License Back - LOL - 11th June 2013: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8450 - If it wasn't for the children and the 4 assassination attempts, Arthur would be journeying on the road without plates, licence or anything and they would have to kill him to stop him, but, at present, the family does not have the support it needs for him to do this without leaving them vulnerable. And even then, being a Ned Kelly is not a remedy, which is why we prefer to focus on what we can do to bring about remedy as soon as possible.

Why no system? Because when you peel back all the layers, the dark heart of "The System" is all about trauma; trauma is behind everything of "The System", even the "good" bits. There is nothing in "The System" that can help us return to lives as conscious MAN on the land or help us create freedom, truth, joy, etc, for ALL, not just those who can do the paperwork. "The System" is all about greed and selfishness - it is what we are indoctrinated into and it is only by turning our backs on EVERYTHING of "The System" that we can remember who we are and begin the de-programming.
A lot of our Love For Life work is about exposing all the tricks of those behind "The System" so that we don't all follow along blindly down their Yellow Brick Road.

We were all once tribes of MAN on land, living with NO SYSTEM. This is where we have to return if we want true freedom, freedom from trauma. As you can see if you are willing, Max, what's going on with One People is only showing us who is taking the first steps down the Yellow Brick Road, who is still caught up in the codes, squiggles and digits, in the past and the future of System Life.

You said, "Hopefully this REALITY will give you pause to question your actions before spreading lies, hatred and false information about others in future Arthur... have a nice day brother."

What we are doing, Max, is exposing everybody who wants the system in any guise because anything to do with "The System" is lies, deception, hatred and false information and all of it is trauma based. This is why we live for no system. You have yet to say that you live for no system. Everyone who is connected to this deception will want "The System". Can you let everyone know where you stand on this, Max?

For more on trauma refer below.

All the best
Arthur & Fiona Cristian

"The System" & Everything Of It
IS Rooted In TRAUMA
Our Conditioned Reactions To TRAUMA
Is What Constructs "The System"


By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

1st July 2013

TRAUMA

Trauma needs to be healed sufficiently in all of us so we can continue progressing fearlessly towards our collective do no harm community/paradise on earth objective. What we've been learning through direct experience over these last 8 years is staggering. The depth of trauma is so extensive that hardly any of us know how to live without reaction to trauma, in one form or another, shaping the decision making which forms the outcomes of our lives from sunrise to sunrise. So totally absorbed are we by the trauma of our past and the trauma that we perceive in the future, that we have barely a moment to consider, contemplate on and be conscious of the present, here and now. We are so caught up in the false idols of codes and symbols, in squiggles and digits and fictitious values, that cause us so much reaction, so much stress, that we are incapable of being present as we are swept along in the story telling of those codes, squiggles and digits that may or may not rescue us. The whole of "The System" is trauma based and is a man-made hell. We are not of hell yet we are so compromised by it. We are determined to inspire MAN out of hell so that Earth is again the living paradise it was dreamt to be. Getting MAN out of hell is a huge team effort.

SYSTEM LIFE

If someone hurts us, we feel the trauma of that hurt, of that intention that has been imposed upon us. The trauma that reverberates in us is not of our making. What is of our making, what we do have control over, is our reaction to that trauma. Do we allow it to possess us, living our lives out of it, or do we move on from the trauma, healing our bodies and brains/senses, so that we can let go of the trauma and get on with our lives? The same applies with "System" thought control or the IMAGE-POWER another MAN has over us. Most of us are spellbound by the re-presentation of thoughts, ideas, images made up by other men and women, none of them uniquely created by us, having us trapped in the perpetual reaction of a vicious cycle mirroring the gruesome, pounding repetition of our system education, going over and over and over the constructs and concepts of "The System" in their alphabet languages so that they become habit. But these constructs and concepts are not us - they are the trauma of a SYSTEM LIFE that has been forced upon us, that we are compelled to react to, making us robots as we perform the clockwork of the programming of system life. We are no longer MAN, we are SYSTEM LIFE.

"The System" of men and women who live for and follow its instruction forces trauma upon us but it is up to us how we react to that trauma so then you could call it "trauma created from "within"", the "within" being just the echo of a residual memory of harm. But, the fact is, if a man rapes you, he is forcing trauma upon you, even though you have a choice how to react to this trauma. However, we recognise the wholeness of life and even though each aspect of sensory life, inanimate or not, tiny or not, is unique and original, we sense that there is still no separation of life which means that any trauma forced upon any aspect of life is trauma for all of life that has to be healed by all of life. It is trauma that gives us (MAN) the compelling-emotion of separation, disconnection from life that is Nature/Earth/MAN.

The reaction to harm upon sensory LIFE/MAN causes the illusion of separation as MAN reacts to the effect of trauma upon MANS life. It is this illusion which "The System" is constructed out of........ ALL OF IT IS TRAUMA BASED!

Re-Presenting "intellectual property" that are thoughts, ideas, images, made up by other men and women telling you how to think (react), feel (react) and act (re-act), is clear evidence of the effect of trauma and its purpose designed by the intender.

Where can innocent children, not exposed to "The System" or to anyone exposed to its brainwashing education, go anywhere in nature to learn about trauma, with its illusion of separation, without anyone (MAN) having to explain it to them or force them to experience it?

From our perspective, the best thing we can learn from the damage caused by "The System" is how not to repeat the damage. That is its only real benefit. There is nothing else to learn because all the empathy, compassion, strength, etc, we feel we have learned from the damage are actually qualities we naturally possess but which have been crushed out of us by our SYSTEM LIFE. We are struggling to get back what we already have! Let's create lives for those around us so that they don't have to be crushed. It does help to get off the grinding roundabout of our SYSTEM LIFE stories of pain, suffering and brainwashing because they do not free us.

Govern-MEN-t

When we live for and focus on Govern-Men-t we continue to support the enslavement of MAN under government. When we live for and focus on Kindoms of Food Forests we continue to support the freedom of MAN. It was when MAN left Food Forests of Kindoms that MAN became a slave under government. Food Forests set MAN free because we are no longer under the Image-Power of another MAN telling us how to think, feel and act.

When we each have the full-responsibility for taking care of a Food Forest, we are unique and original MAN because we create unique and original thoughts inspired by nature all around us - that is ALL that we know. There is no other MAN educating us to be under their IMAGE-POWER.

What now stands before all of us is the choice of a "SYSTEM" to live for; we either live for a man-made system of govern-men-t or we live for a natural system of Food Forest Kindoms. With the choice of government we give up our power to be under limited liability; living on land is now controlled by others dictating to (educating) us how to be a MAN on land, how to think, feel and act as a hue-MAN in their world, under their IMAGE-POWER. We have given up our "rights" to be free - we are no longer unique and original MAN. With the choice of Food Forest Kindoms we live by FULL-Responsibility to do no harm to Food Forests so that we do no harm to MAN living in those Food Forest Kindoms. We live for the co-creation of Food Forest Kindoms that is a team effort of MAN recreating Food Forest Kindoms to set each of us free to live by full-responsibility for everything we think, feel and do.

Kindom is a team effort where the best of land is for the benefit of all of our tribe/Kindom/village/community to enjoy and all other "lesser" land is turned into hectares (2.5 acres is more than enough space of land for each family to take responsibility for - 1/3 for home, 1/3 for gardens of space and 1/3 for a food forest joining all other food forests of their Kindom). With Kindoms, we help each other build our shelters/homes and gardens so that we can all be set free from being under govern-MEN-t forevermore.

For more on Food Forest Kindoms read "The Steps Of Kindom" and "The Spell Is Broken".
Links are provided below.

All the best
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

A Facebook Post

Link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10201336766849239

Andrea Smith said: "I Don't Think Many People Live Without The System, We Live In A House Or Unit, With Family, We Drive A Car, car insurance, health insurance etc We Pay Taxes. Anyone Who Claims Not To Be In The System Will Not Reply To Any Of This As They Will Not Have Electricity Or A Computer. It Would Be Rare For Someone To Just Leave Everything, Go Bush And Live Off The Land. I'm Sure You Are Still In The System, I Am Still In The System."

We replied..............

Yes, as a severely compromised family we are still in "The System". Even though Arthur no longer has any contracts with "The System" since early 2009, he is still relying on Fiona and others who do. Getting out of "The System" is a very big step, especially as most of us cannot really imagine how that would be!

However, we realise that getting out of "The System" is the only choice for freedom which is why we have been pushing so very hard since 2006 for "The Steps Of Kindom" REMEDY and with it, "The Spell Is Broken".

But nothing will happen unless there is enough of us immensely hungry, determined and FEARLESS to make it happen in present-sense.

Refer to the thread below "Richard Thompson said: "This sounds like the new age un agenda 21 sustainable bullshit and because of that i did not watch it...": https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10201318155743973 with our replies to Brett Anderson who we respect heaps BUT who appears to be like almost everyone else, not hungry or determined enough to do something about it here and now.

The inconveniences that will arise in actually doing something will arise no matter what the circumstances may be when and if we decide to do something in present-sense.

The "God" of APATHY and PASSING-THE-BUCK rules supreme.

Most of us are kept in line through the extensive trauma conditioning we've been hammered with, clearly designed to stop us taking FULL-RESPONSIBILITY to create the essential steps we MUST all take here and now to move away from the grip of fear our "System" masters have had over us and and our ancestors going right back to when they were conquered and broken down into slaves.

The trauma is so all-pervasive and powerful that it has an immense hold over us making us extremely greedy and selfish, driven by the fear of trauma and of the inconveniences of letting go of "The System" and the feeling that we cannot trust others so we have to go it alone, stuck with our private complaints and the ongoing sounds of clanging chains coming from our severely compromised victim status. We have so much fear of letting go of what we claim we "own" in "The System" and the greed and selfishness created by the uncertainty of life and the lack of abundance in "The System", that we need the FORCE of "The System" to provide protection at the cost of everyone else suffering in "The System" which includes the loss of freedom, peace, joy, abundance, etc, that comes as we continue selling each other out all-the-time.

This is all trauma.

But it is only through letting go of our fear and our greed and selfishness that we will find true-freedom.

Greed and selfishness make people go off and buy a piece of land so that they can have "their" freedom but that does not keep "The System" from the door and does nothing to create freedom in the lives of those around them and us. It is only through getting together and confronting those of "The System" when they come knocking that we get them out of our lives. Even better when the FORCE behind "The System" no longer exists to come knocking on our door.

"Community Immunity" through large numbers is what they fear and are powerless against. There is no point in half a million of us going to the city to protest and then going home again, still plugged into "The System". Those of "The System" don't give two hoots about this and, in fact, they orchestrate and control such protests because people feel they are doing something when they are still giving all their energy to "The System". They know that the thought of freedom is not freedom. They know that they can manipulate slaves to exhaust their life-energy at rallies, social-media websites, watching footy, masturbating over sexual images, getting pissed, being entertained by petitions, etc, etc, without ever giving LIFE consistently to the thought of freedom. For slaves, the dream of freedom is just that a dream, a thought, an idea always at arms length. The "spell" and PULL towards compliance and addiction to "The System" is so very strong that slaves are back at work the next day or are falling into regimental lines receiving government hand-outs.

If we want to be free of "The System" we have to change the way we are living. At it's hearts and our hearts, this is what the whole debate we recently had with Raymond Karczewski has been about - the thought of our freedom is not the same as creating and living our freedom.

Capturing Another MANS Uniqueness
A Facebook Debate With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
And Raymond Karczewski
Starting 13th May 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8414

Note: the final instalment to this debate, Parts 2 & 3, will be uploaded ASAP. They go deeply into the background of trauma. To us these posts are a huge eye opener clearly revealing how and why the Freemasonic/Satanic world create trauma and brilliantly use it to trap MAN into enclosures where they can be used as slaves for whole life-times.

We are so compromised that sometimes it seems impossible to take the steps away from "The System". They know this and know that this is why most of us are still choosing "The System" over freedom because we are not prepared to give up our system addictions and deal with the many sacrifices and potential suffering we all have to go through to get out the other side.

The power of many of us coming together as "community immunity" to show that we can live together in peace without "The System" is the only method, bar earth-wide extinction brought on by an earth fever, that will break the back of "The System" because, once we no longer need "The System" physically, mentally and emotionally, they have no power over us and "The System" will fade away because no one is giving it any life-energy any more.

When we all come together to be the gift of life for those around us, giving up our self-centredness to labour so that everyone has food, water and shelter and being prepared to stand up for each other so that we all have people we can count on is how we heal the trauma that has us locked into "The System". We are confident that, once a few of us come together to do this, we will soon be saying, "Why didn't we do this years ago?" Yes, we will work hard until we have broken down the FORCE behind "The System" and got rid of it, but the satisfaction of what we achieve will be far beyond that which we feel from the distractions of "The System". But, hey, there is nothing said here that we have not said before because this is what we have been determined to create since 2006.

The Spell Is Broken
Taking The Land To Create Kindom

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8365

"The Steps Of Kindom"
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

All the best
Arthur & Fiona Cristian

From Another Recent Facebook Post.....

"Time" is not the issue as it doesn't exist. What is really going on here is reaction to trauma. "The System" and everything of it is trauma based. Refer to our articles and videos for more on this. GeoEngineering is all trauma based too. Both those behind it and those at the effect of it are all reacting to trauma. As we shared earlier, "Trauma needs to be healed sufficiently in all of us so we can continue progressing fearlessly towards our collective do no harm community/paradise on earth objective. What we've been learning through direct experience over these last 8 years is staggering. The depth of trauma is so extensive that almost all of us don't know how to live without the reaction to trauma, in one form or another, shaping the decision making which forms the outcomes of our lives from sunrise to sunrise. The whole of "The System" is trauma based and is a man-made hell. We are not of hell yet we are so compromised by it. We are determined to inspire MAN out of hell so that Earth is again the living paradise it was dreamt to be. Getting MAN out of hell is a huge team effort.

And a copy of a reply in that post: "In the water of MANS breath where sperm and egg come from we already have all of Paradise in us, as us. Though much of it has been ignored/distracted/corrupted/distorted/suppressed/etc, thanks to trauma (impure insincere thoughts, feelings, actions, dreams that do harm), we are all still completely made out of that heavenly stuff (pure and sincere do no harm thoughts/feelings/actions/dreams).

All you have done was to take full-responsibility to repair whatever you could of the damage done to you because your natural heartfelt connection with paradise is stronger than with the bullshit hell surrounding you. We are all presently struggling through the bullshit of hell's trauma to get back to where we are now. There is still a way to go to have us all living paradise here and now.

Bar not doing harm to MAN/Earth/Nature and being conscious of not doing harm there is NOTHING else to learn from HELL. If we and our ancestors had not been interfered with, we would already be living paradise in present-sense. From the instant of conception children are already equipped with all the tools for co-creating and expanding paradise all-around. The more we start remembering who we really are the faster we can accelerate the process of co-creating Kindoms/Do No Harm Communities/Tribes/Villages and until we make this happen in large scales between us as a gift for all of MAN (us) we will continue suffering from the consequences of giving our life to Hell ("The System") causing hell to bind us all even more closer to hell as in-divide-u-all-s (individuals) with no way out.

Until we have all worked our arses off "day-after-day" to create a living paradise we will never be able to have that "private" space of love where we can each uniquely dream to create the original MAN we are at our core. We've first got to get rid of hell from all around us, from out of the lives of everyone around us and ONLY then can we start to live paradise again. Until we've made this happen nothing will change our bonds with hell. In fact, those who don't take full-responsibility to get rid of hell won't make it as hell will have consumed them as part of the collective spiritual suicide of MANS fall into it.

This post we put up yesterday on Arthur's FB wall "Raymond Karczewski posted this comment in a debate on Nigel Beckwith's Facebook wall..." goes into this subject more deeply and as you read the full extent of the debate we had with Raymond Karczewski we can see/sense what has to be done.

Capturing Another MANS Uniqueness
A Facebook Debate With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
And Raymond Karczewski
Starting 13th May 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8414

"Time Codes" makes trauma based images "self fulfilling" (self-creating), which can't be done if they are not set to a "time code". We project time-coded images from a past we're not letting go of into a future we're not letting go of because we have memorised them, causing the "story-telling" of the trauma to be be re-experienced over and over again here and now in present-sense where we've not been letting go of them.

That's what trauma does to us.

Everything about "The System" is trauma based. All "The System" education is trauma based, conditioning/brainwashing us to "time-codes" so we can be locked into them. Then we are easily manipulated which causes us to comply down-the-line whenever however............i.e....... police officer getting out of the car with lights flashing coming over to you armed with baton, taser, gun, hand-cuffs, penalty infringement notice booklet, etc... Aaaaahhhhhhhh the power of non-sensory images rooted to a time-code = trauma.

These time-coded stories of trauma form the sub-conscious = memory - which is just an echo of a trauma (non-sensory-image) bouncing to and fro between your ears. It is the past projected into the future that controls us here and now.

Trauma is a vicious circle.

How many people do you know who are free of enslavement to trauma?

Being trained/conditioned to "Time Codes" causes us to set trauma into motion so that we can re-experience its harmful-suffering-story over and over again even though nothing is really going on in present-sense........ the time-code of the trauma-story is rooted in the past of "long-ago".

"I have to go to work to keep a roof over my head, get my kids through school, put food on the table, pay the mortgage, pay the bills, etc..... and if I don't" ......... TRAUMA REACTION IS ON BIG-TIME NOW - RED LIGHT IS FLASHING EVEN BRIGHTER even though its always been flashing since being trapped to this time-code rooted in trauma. "I'd better keep getting up each day and go to work in "The System" as a good little compliant slave."

When a child falls over and hurts themselves it's best to ignore their pain by not reacting to the pain the child is experiencing in those moments and instead provide them with a remedy that helps them to move forward without dwelling on the story of the pain. Have watched many children ready to burst into tears but pulling out of it at the last moment when they realise/sense there is no attention-seeking pay-off in it for them coming from those around them. They just move on. This is what nature does to. Life is for the living. "The System" is not for the living.

A lie cannot be created without a "time code". Are you aware of this? All lies are rooted in "time codes".

There is so much more to this and we explain this in some of the Love For Life videos we've been posting and in some of the Love For Life articles too.

Arthur Cristian

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Max Igan replied again Wednesday 3rd July 2013 00:59

"Arthur, referencing yourself to "elucidate" on what you say is the height of egotism and not one single thing in the essay I skimmed over that you posted above justifies the lies, the hatred and the falsehoods you so readily created about me... you need to wake up because all you are doing is perpetuating division... I would never post hatred of another.... and even with the lies you posted about me (having never met me) I never even responded, because I have more respect for life than that.... in fact your own actions speak volumes about the you that you will not face... but anyway... the oppt did what it was supposed to do... it provided to tools for those who choose to step away from the system, to do so... the thing that has stopped more people doing so, are people like you who have a vested interest in maintaining the fight and the fiction for their own agendas ....people like you ARE the system...

and arthur, in order to create a kin domain, you need to first free the people of earth... and buying into your property in the mistaken and fictional belief that one can actually own part of the earth is simply stupid and circumvents the REAL issue completely... wake up brother

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Arthur Cristian

These words "hatred", "lies", "egotism", "falsehoods", "division", etc, are just claims made up by you MAX. They are all lies. All you are attempting to do is create a controversy where there isn't one. You are trying to kidnap/hijack our characters so that you can impersonate them, claiming these claims are our intentions, coming from us, when in fact they are your claims (lies), you made them all up. You seem to really enjoy practising black magic as in remote viewing, remote control and remote projection. Are you psychic Max? Do you have a third eye? Our conscience is very clear. When it comes to your claims, we have nothing to be concerned about.

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Arthur Cristian

Max said "and arthur, in order to create a kin domain, you need to first free the people of earth... and buying into your property in the mistaken and fictional belief that one can actually own part of the earth is simply stupid and circumvents the REAL issue completely... wake up brother".

We never made such claims Max. These are not our intentions. They are not the path you claim we are traversing.

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Max Igan

they are not "claims I made up" arthur they are an obsevation of your actions and the lies, hatred and false information you created and posted about me... people like you and the bullshit and hatred you peddle are a HUGE part of the problem because your own actions show you have a heart as black as coal

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Max Igan

anyway, Im not interested in any long discorse with you as you are way too narcissistic to ever truly see the obvious. I just wanted to demonstrate how utterly wrong you were and how the OPPT's UCC filings have actually been helping people. I dont hold any hatred, jealously or anymosity towards you, as you do towards me and as you have amply demonstrated with your hate videos and disinformation campaigns and wish you well. ... I just wish you would wake up and start working for positive change rather than helping perpetuate division to serve your own agenda.
Dont bother replying as I have no interest in conversing with you past this point unless you happen to wake up from the illusion you are living in

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Arthur Cristian

Then you are saying (claiming) you have lived with us, have had private, 1st party to 1st party dealings (direct experience) with us on an ongoing basis to know from direct experience who we really are? What you have posted here, these images, are of your own making Max and we don't buy into them. They live ONLY with you, there maker.

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Max Igan

no, Im basing my opinion of you on the unwarranted lies, hatred and false information you have spread about me without knowing one single thing about me... and just think Arthur, we could have been friends, however you chose the path of lies, anymosity and self promotion at the expense of others... pity

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Arthur Cristian

Reposted the article on Trauma, System Life & Govern-MEN-t

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Max Igan

lol... another essay referencing yourself to back up what you claim?... lol...damn you have to be the most self absorbed person on this planet Arthur...
yeah trauma is trauma ...and false information and lies directed at another to serve a personal agenda, is false information and lies directed at another to serve a personal agenda... and you sir are a nasrcissitic idiot

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Arthur Cristian

This is Fiona here Max with Arthur. Why are you so keen for a fight? You do not have to like what we say. We have no problem with that. Why don't you go and do some more One People promotion, as that seems to be the way you see to create paradise for all without leaders and followers? Unless you do not want paradise for all.

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Max Igan

Well Fiona, I think you should be asking yourselves those questions as Im not the one who posted lies, hatred and disinformation about a fellow researcher,... that was you.. it was you who decided to start the fight.... from this message, you are obviously just as sarcisstic, just as bent on division and the perpetuation of the system to serve your own agenda, and just as bent on establishing your cult and as quite obviously just as black hearted as Arthur

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Max Igan

over and out

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Arthur Cristian

All lies are a curse - all liars are cursed - with us the makers of curses/lies are forced to process and amplify them exclusively with no way out until they make whole with those they intended to harm or have harmed.

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Max Igan

then, as you have clearly stated, you are cursed
goodbye

16:33

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Arthur Cristian

Then you have nothing to be concerned about.

16:33

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The Cristian Family November 2006

Another Facebook Thread Involving Max Igan
And Arthur & Fiona Cristian
1st August 2013

Link: https://www.facebook.com/skaiwai/posts/10151575180051299

Simon Kaiwai

1st August 2013 - 20 hours ago ·

Secret trusts, Banking on bondage and the OPPT

Recently a woman in the state of New Zealand who is a mother, sister and daughter was arrested for exploring personal remedy to "the system" of covert slavery that is predominantly controlled through banking.

Efforts to expose that which is totalitarian, unfair, immoral, denied yet provable are certainly needed if there is to be any solidarity for a freer and more just society. This woman's effort goes someway towards doing this and it is encouraging to see increased numbers in support of her personal plight which now includes police brutality and emotional torture.

In essence she has used a lawful process for communicating intent to get pre-clearance for certain actions from notified parties before performing on such understandings. Recently this process has been co-opted by a movement calling itself OPPT.

WE CAN DRAW SIMILARITIES BETWEEN individuals common sense concern for the environment and the subversion of this good intent in support for C02 tax and covert world governance (Agenda 21) WITH OPPT and an individuals desire to be free and share equally in the system they are purportedly born into.

I believe OPPT was created to subvert and limit our growth in understanding of natural law. In this instance we are given an example of the uncaring nature of this system, a willingness to use unnecessary force and a fear by those in uniforms and gowns to front up with their oaths of office from which their claimed authority is granted. Before government there was man, woman and child (Man). If a government started itself it would be pure tyranny, a fictional construct of the few perpetrated on the many. I estimate that up to 34% of individuals within western societies are willing participants in government and granted privileges stemming from it with that very belief. But in reality it is not true.

We all contribute. We all form the relationships and norms that are accepted. I urge those that are looking at this case and the surrounding knowledge to direct aspirations towards greater freedoms and local action not more fiat currency and this OPPT construction.

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Merk NZ

I take my hat off to you there Richard.
It is good to see you say the Lady is a New Zealander and not a Maori.
That simple thing takes away any Racial division that some may want to go down.(hope that makes sense.)

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Iron Lung Panda

So what you saying Simon, is that to change a "System" you have to be in the system? Or that to be freeman, you have to work with everyday grassroots people and practice the values that will make people free?

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Merk NZ

I think he means to learn and practice "inherent Law".
There is a vast difference between a contract offered by the "Crown of England" and the "Crown of Windsor".

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Iron Lung Panda

Isnt Simon saying that the OPPT is a fraudulent entity? This always gets rather confusing.

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Poppy Just-Poppy

Absolutely agreed Simon Kaiwai!

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Simon Kaiwai

I'm saying we are social beings and contribute to society/s. Also that the system uses force as the goal keeper against equality and that the system is counter to freedom and ignorant of natural law. There are limits to individual sovereignty i.e. an individual cannot make highest law for a local area with other inhabitants. To form a territory there must be local solidarity or at least consensus. In lieu of this we are left with assumed totalitarian representative and centralized decision making.

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Simon Kaiwai

Also saying the OPPT is fiction

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Max Igan

anything "legal" that claims to be "law" is fiction ...and anything the oppt has done after the one original filing claiming if you "be" you are free is simply noise... as for the crown... I do not recognise any crown or any moron claiming to be king or queen as having any jurisdiction of the vessel I inhabit, regardless of who they are or what stone they claim they sat on... its all fiction as are any "territories" and borders and all the other rubbish this commercial system has superimposed over reality... we made the whole lot up.

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Moeke Brown

Burn it all down & start again simple & effective

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Poppy Just-Poppy

Just not how they burnt Rome or London eh Moeke

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Katie Wright Whale Song

..the Waitaha in NZ have the remedy..i will be sharing it, with their permission soon..in the meantime do not become Co-OPPT-ed into a scam designed to take the system down with nothing to replace it except digital ..if you do I hope you enjoy being micro chipped

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Moeke Brown

@ poppy isnt that what they are doing in afganistan syria iraq & libya in the name of shamocracy.....

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Poppy Just-Poppy

Yes. Utter shamocracy.

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Poppy Just-Poppy

Burnt everything, put everyone's estates into trust to start a new financial indebtedness. Now an OPPT twist. A return to nature a small local community initiatives where adults agree is what I wish to support. Keeping it simple and free from hierarchies. Nothing will ever work on a global scale. Still many eyes are shut, it's a mission to get food to mouths, to find a home and a safe space to be in.

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Moeke Brown

yes like a festering wound drain out the pus and let nature heal itself

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Poppy Just-Poppy

Might take an few Earth bound X flares to help that process along

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Poppy Just-Poppy

Maybe the intelligence of a universe that does whatever it takes to bring itself back into harmony and cleanse itself is what it will take?

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Arthur Cristian

Karl Grubmayr implied: "Thanks Arthur and Fiona, This MAN comprehends but how to create Kindom? People are not able to listen. Not one. They get reactive, violent, abusive, nasty, etc. No One, everyone, this includes the educated ones. Their trauma has them be in is such a severe state they will not look at themselves, how to do what needs to be done. Max Igan and Kazinsky are perfect examples. So...... how to create Kindom? - 25 July at 11:50.

We replied...........

Hi Karl. Walk-the-talk of your standing of Kindom with those who live to walk-the-talk of Kindom too. Unless you are walking-the-talk you are not creating Kindom. The thought of Kindom is not Kindom. THE THOUGHT OF KINDOM DOES NOT CREATE KINDOM. We must give LIFE to the thought of Kindom so that it is a living/sensory-dream in present-sense. Kindom is the life of Kindom we live, that we set into motion. In our current compromised state, thanks to many many many years of intensive, moment by moment repetitive and reinforcing brainwashing, if we don't give life to Kindom in present-sense we are instead giving life to "The System" regardless of whatever other version is unfolded as the New World Order shortly.

We see Life Is A Gift and Do No Harm is the path to true freedom, peace, joy, abundance, truth, etc....... which is at the heart of Kindom/Do No Harm Communities. Unless we walk-the-talk of Life Is A Gift & Do No Harm we are completely lost in "The System" of a man-made Hell made up of self-centered men, women and children isolated from each other as in-divide-u-all-s. All requiring "The System" GLUE of "ONENESS", etc, to bind everyone together under the umbrella of a uniformed commercial code (UCC).

You are right about the extent of trauma, how deeply entrenched it is. However, if our intention is sincere and we are willing to persevere, persevere, persevere, no matter how much the trauma tells us to run away, tells us to wait for others, tells us to pass-the-buck, etc, we will get through it and create lives we dream of here and now.

Kindom starts by the way we live (set into motion) Kindom in present-sense. With Kindom in our intention, we start to co-create as best we can in our severely-compromised "state", learning, letting go, learning, letting go. This is all we can do. It is a deconstruction process of unlearning/deprogramming/letting go of all "The System" story-telling brainwashing/braindirtying we've endured thus far.

We learn to walk-the-talk by actually walking-the-talk which has us learning Kindom in present-sense, learning what it takes to walk, trying (practising) to take steps and falling over again and again and again. Our no-back-door commitment (what stand/live for) is no different. Eventually, we learn to truly live again (BE) as free MAN.

We must not wait for a story teller to come along with a system to give us peace, freedom, etc, and we have to be wary of the many, many system story tellers offering us their version of another system that has us conform and give our power away to be under another MAN's image power once more.

We have to get rid of the duality. With duality, we are thinking about Kindom, freedom, etc, which makes us apart from Kindom, freedom, love, peace, joy, abundance, etc. We have to be Kindom and create it in the lives of those around us by serving (living freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, etc, for) them.

We have to create Kindom by living it here and now, learning that we do not need any man-made system in the form of a trust or govern-MEN-t or a "star trek federation", etc, in-between MAN and MAN and in-between MAN and nature/earth.

We only get trapped in the New World Order ("The System") when we allow the story tellers to keep us believing in their duality stories/images so that we only think freedom, as a concept/construct/etc, rather than living/being it.

When we get past duality, there is nothing more to complain about; there is only the life of freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, etc, to live.

Now you have broken the spell, broken the grip the story tellers have over you.

While you are listening to "Thrive", Zeitgeist", "One Earth/Planet/World", David Icke, Max Igan, etc, you are still trapped in the spells set-into-motion by a man still reliant on "The System" and you are still not taking FULL-responsibility for your life, for living Kindom, for being peace, truth, freedom, etc, and standing up for everybody around you so that they are peace, truth, freedom, etc, too.

Listening to the shepherds/light-bearers of the NWO is no different to voting for politicians.

Being the gift of life, being do no harm creates Paradise.

Not disregarding our/your FULL-responsibility for living Kindom here and now, even on our "own", the simplest way to start Kindom is to get together with others who stand for truth, freedom, etc, in present-sense. Move to rental properties right near each other, start creating gardens together and sharing what you grow. Get into each others lives so that everyone is taken care of. Support each other's children, maintain each other's homes and pool ALL your money (no one "owns" anything - it's all shared as Kindom in practice) to get what you need from "The System" until you have the infrastructure of a living-community in place to sever all ties completely, to cause a MASS EXODUS OUT OF "THE SYSTEM". Heal each other and live for each other without contracts or conditions. Without expectations, just giving and letting go, giving and letting go, giving and letting go, giving and letting go................

Do we have to jump 10 feet across a room to grab our next breath? Of course not, everything we need is already taken care of. We just need to let go, let go, let go, let go.......... of all "The System" brainwashing and behind it, all the conditioning to trauma that has us be in a "state" of perpetual reaction to trauma and therefore trapped as the glue of "The System".

Imagine hundreds and hundreds of us coming-together for Kindom living like this in present-sense.

Land isn't the problem - we are already on land, even when we are in the suburbs or apartment blocks. This is what we are doing, so come and do it with us. If you are in another country and don't have anyone around you to start doing it with, come over here to Bowral, NSW, Australia. Lets deal with visas, passports, etc, down-the-line. Creating "community immunity" in vast numbers quickly that is Kindom and spreading our immune system of LOVE-FOR-LIFE(MAN) (Life Is A Gift - Do No Harm) out and out and out in all directions is what Freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, etc, is all about, is made of.

We are not bound to countries, races and creeds; we are MAN as Earth and the whole of Earth is our paradise to co-create. When enough of us make the sacrifices and get together, we will be (ARE) strong enough to stand up to the re-presentatives of the FORCE of "The System" when they turn up, if they turn up. The more we start doing this, the more we start taking FULL-responsibility for our lives and the lives of those around us, the less and less and less we need "The System" of govern-MEN-t and its "services", "benefits", privileges", etc.

All things considered, what sacrifice is too great to make when healing Earth/MAN is at stake and sure catastrophe if we don't take action. All it is, is a change in attitude/behaviour/direction/values/etc and setting that change into motion here and now.

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Life Is A Gift
Includes Many Love For Life Comments
And Insights Posted June-July 2013
In Facebook

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8460

"From Bare Dirt To Abundance"
A Year In The Life Of The
Love For Life Food Forest

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
8th February 2013
51 Minutes 46 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A

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Arthur Cristian

It wasn't pieces of paper (and whatever was scribbled on them) that invaded all the tribal lands of our ancestors to rape, pillage, plunder, humiliate, destroy, murder and enslave them. It wasn't pieces of paper who continued enslaving all the generations to come either. Pieces of paper/electronic-digital-data ("Intellectual Property" = "Story-Telling") have no power, no FORCE. ONLY MAN has FORCE. Using trickery, deceit and FORCE, we are just dealing with some of our brothers/sisters of the dream of life who turned against all of us (their brothers/sisters of the dream of life). Nothing else is going on.

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Ben House-Of Thompson

Exactly, it is a fiction, and a struggle of beliefs, Powers and principles.

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Max Igan

Dont post your cultish essays on my wall please arthur

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Greg Kelly

Why not, Max?

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Max Igan

Because Greg, he is a would-be cult leader whose only interest is in perpetuating division while getting people to buy into his alternate society and leave this one to destroy the world around them... his concept (stolen from the ringing cedars novels) is kindomains, yet he does not address the matter of land ownership, and so fails to address the root cause of the problem as under his method, one still has to pay to be alive.... plus, he is a narcissist who only sees things from the boxed perspective he has created for himself and attacks and spreads hatred and division against anyone who disagrees with him... plus, Ive asked him not to post on my wall many times before as all he ever posts is blatant self promotion in which he even references himself for "confirmation" of what he says... to be honest, Im just over his divisionism, his hatred of others and his rampant self promotion. ... and the energy harvesting epic essays he calls "comments"

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Max Igan

he has actually created hate videos directed at me greg and yet he is so narcissistic, self absorbed and disrespectful that he still has the audacity to post on my wall... and well, I just have to draw the line somewhere...

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Greg Kelly

He is very passionate, but I think his ideas are unrealistic... kind of like McKennas' 'archaic revival' in a sense.

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Arthur Cristian

This thread was posted on Arthur's FB wall.

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Justin White

Greg Kelly why are Arthur's ideas unrealistic ? Is that your excuse to avoid taking personal responsibility for the dream of life ? The more energy put into the fiction is energy that is directed away from abundance and health for all.

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Max Igan

he is passionate in his hatred of others yes and in his willingness to make videos attacking people who question him... he is also passionate about his self promotion... personally, I gave up on him after he told me anastasia actually came to see him... the world is in bad shape and frankly I just dont have time for his divisionism and personal attacks anymore... he's just another part of the same divisionist problem and yet another person who has a vested interest in maintaining the fight and I dont want him on my wall.

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Ben House-Of Thompson

The post was a bit of a novel to get through, I actually commented to my wife that he could have just posted a link as he has a site! Don't know anything but what he wrote here about the life's a dream perspective and commerce is a fiction, this I can agree with, the kingdom stuff I don't know. I thought there would need to be a king for there to be a domain for the king? That seems like going backwards.

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Justin White

Kin domain (abbreviated to kindom) not KINGdom.

4 hours ago

Max Igan

Kin, ben, not king... kindomains are actually a very good idea. You can read about them in the ringing cedars books by valimir megre which is where arthur lifted the idea from... the problem is that arthur promotes the concept so people will buy into his commune so he can preside as the resident guru of his flock... when the only real way a true vedic culture will ever happen is when the matter of government corruption and perceived land ownership is addressed... so he leaves out a good portion of the solution

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Ben House-Of Thompson

Oh Kindom, I like that

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Ben House-Of Thompson

Oh I see, yes, humans will always want to trade and settle, your right, if these are overlooked, war will result as an expression of frustration with lost generations unable to call a place home and have free DOMain

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Ben House-Of Thompson

Like my play on freedom? Free DOMain, lol, I know, a bit cheesy

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Justin White

Max you make a lot of unsubstantiated claims regarding Arthurs motivation. Do you have ESP ?

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Max Igan

no, I can only appraise him by an observation of his words and actions, but I know a lot of people who have had the arthur cristian experience and as I said, I gave up on him after he told me anastasia came to australia to visit him... a liar is a liar and thats that...

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Greg Kelly

The ideas he puts forward are unrealistic because of the very things he highlights... MAN is under a spell. If we leave society to the spellbound in order to create our own kindoms, we will just give the spellbound slaves room to enslave us all further. The system needs taking down from within, not without.

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Ben House-Of Thompson

How do you know anastasia didn't come see him in Aussy? (Quietly hoping anastasia isn't dead) seems like an odd reason (unless anastasia is dead)?

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Justin White

He told me the same thing. I neither believe nor disbelieve. If you believe that Anastasia exists and can do the things described about her in the 'Ringing Cedar' books, then this would be possible. However it is irrelevant really. The important thing is Arthurs ideas, do they ring true. Has he made any errors ? If so what are they ?

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Max Igan

have you read the ringing cedars books Ben? ... Do you seriously believe a woodland nymph who was raised in the forest and speaks to animals and has never been part of any system... just suddenly went and obtained a birth certificate and passport just so she could come to Oz to visit arthur?

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Justin White

He said she travelled via spiritual means. No passport required

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Max Igan

well, he made an error in lying to me and then attacking me Justin... plus, as I said, I know many people who have experience with him... he is fully programming into vatican god vs satan programming and is so narcissistic that he cannot see anyones view but his own as having any validity

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Ben House-Of Thompson

Ohhh I see! Nooooo that is not the anastasia I was thinking of, did he say that? I have not read ringing cedars.

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Max Igan

yes he says that now, but he told me on the phone that she came to visit him... he said nothing of it being a dream

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Ben House-Of Thompson

Ahh ha, all you needed to say was religion and/or Vatican. Religion perverts everything it touches. All down hill from there on.

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Max Igan

anyway, Im off to bed... no doubt arthur will respond with another 1000 word essay at some stage, in which he will reference himself to validate his words again... good luck to him anyway, he probably has a good heart if he could only get over his need for divisionism

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Ben House-Of Thompson

Yea, me too! Good night people's, if I dream of a little nymph called anastasia I'll know where it came from Mauri Ora....

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Arthur Cristian

Everything that has transpired between Max Igan & Arthur & Fiona Cristian since it started February this year can be found here (includes everything about Anastasia):

Max Igan & The Fraud Of The OPPT
(One Peoples Public Trust)
Facebook Discussion With Arthur & Fiona Cristian
17th to 19th February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8357

OPPT Facebook Discussion Started
By Gypsy Rob 20th February 2013
Includes Interchange With Max Igan & Arthur & Fiona Cristian

http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8466

Another Facebook Conversation
Between Max Igan And Arthur & Fiona Cristian

2nd July 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8467

Here is a post we made about Max's deceitful work

A Spell Master At Work
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
21st April 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8401

Everything to do with us and OPPT can be found here:

OPPT - One Peoples Public Trust
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8359

For those who want to go deeper into the insights we share, a good place to start is here:

Life Is A Gift
Includes Many Love For Life Comments
And Insights Posted June-July 2013
In Facebook

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8460

Link: https://www.facebook.com/skaiwai/posts/10151575180051299

The Cristian Family November 2006

Turning Away From The Reflection
Of MANS Looking Glass


A Facebook Post
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

30th April 2013

Facebook Link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10201022455671656

L...........(sanitised) sent us this PM........ "I was reading your materials, as my husband has recently started on this journey. I noticed you say you are not Christians, I would like to know what your faith based religion is. I see you use living creator and say there is no God. Explain please."

We replied.......

Hi L.........(sanitised), the Love For Life videos explain almost everything in great detail. Links provided below. For example "The Thought Of God Is Not God". The thought of God is not a direct first party to first party experience. The thought of God is just thoughts made up by other men and women telling you how to think and feel about a God. This is not direct experience/perception of God.

All thoughts are images and the thought of God is an image made up by others. This is no different to looking at the reflection of you in the mirror expecting the reflection of you to talk to you as you talk to it. The reflection can't. All you can do is fantasise/pretend that this reflection is talking to you.

This is no different to you pretending/acting/performing as Alice In Wonderland. Alice is not present with the presence of life, neither is Wonderland. Only you are present with the presence of life. In present sense, the presence of life is embodied in your image BUT the presence of life is not embodied in the image of Alice and Wonderland. We can't sense them, hence they are non-sense images (non-present-sense-images).

We can sense (touch, taste, feel, smell, hear, see) you, the living MAN in present sense but we can never sense Alice or Wonderland even while you are acting as Alice in Wonderland. No matter how clever and brilliant you might be in trying to convince us you are Alice in a real living Wonderland, you will never be able to bring forward Alice or Wonderland or The Mad Hatters as first parties to back your claims so that we can have a direct first party to first party sensory experience with Alice and Wonderland.

While you pretend to RE-PRESENT (act/perform) Alice and Wonderland, claiming Alice and Wonderland exist but unable to bring them forward to back your claims, you are actually committing fraud and you are lying. You are trying to get us to accept that the reflection is real.

All you have got as evidence is you acting as Alice and all the household furniture, clothes and toys you use to make up the props and settings of Wonderland and the Mad Hatters, etc. These props, costumes and titles do not make Alice and Wonderland true.

The same applies when Bob and Judy knock on our front door claiming they have the living word of God with them.

We say "Have you?'

We say, "Please bring forward this God to back your claims.... Hello God...... HELLLLOOOOOOOO GOOOOOODDDDDD ....... anyone there?"

We then say to Bob and Judy, "Why is your God invisible? Why can't it talk for itself directly with us, first party to first party without another MAN, a 3rd party interloper, intermeddler, interceder, pretender, actor, performer, having to RE-PRESENT this God we can't sense (touch, taste, feel, smell, see. hear,) in present-sense?????

Can you please bring forward someone who was present when God wrote or instructed others to write God's living word in the Bible?"

Without them bringing forward this God, or anyone who was present, to back their claims, they are committing fraud and lying while they act/perform as this "God" and all other characters requiring re-presentation in the Bible. None of these characters are present with the presence of Life. This God/IMAGE and these characters/IMAGES are not present with the presence of life. There is no LIFE in their images, instead they are reflections, shadows of another man-made thought.

All they have got is belief, faith and associated opinion in these NON-SENSORY-IMAGES. No matter how clever and brilliant they make their belief, faith and associated opinion with a "God" or a "Jesus/Je-Zeus, or "Galactic Federation" or "Supreme Court" or "Citibank" or "Money", etc, etc, to be, they STILL CANNOT MAKE IT TRUE. In the middle of the word belief is the word lie and in the middle of the word lie is "i" and "i" is the greatest lie of all. Refer to parts 1 - 3 of the OPPT videos.

It is so easy to create morally and naturally correct images that have only one lie amongst them. That lie creates monumental damage, despite the truths. The Bible, and all other holy/spiritual/esoteric/occult books, are full of morally, naturally correct truths but the lies trap us in the reflections that are images made up by other men and women that we worship. All Bible believers break the First Commandment; 'thou shalt have no other God before me", because they are worshipping the image, the reflection of a God instead of having a direct first party to first party sensory experience/perception of living creator in present sense.

The greatest lie/liar is the one closest to the truth.

As we have the power/gift of life to set images into motion the lies/liars we set into motion (believe/faith in/trust/etc) do all the damage/harm while truths do no harm. The reason that we cannot work out why everything is going wrong is that we are unable to recognise what is lies and what is truth. We are unable to stop the harm spiralling out of control because we cannot see the cause of the harm. All the while we have good intentions, crying out, "We've got to stop this", we keep setting the harm into motion. Nothing seems to stop the destruction. What is it going to take to stop it? Stop living the lies. Our work is all about learning to recognise the lies so that we can stop the harm and create Do No Harm Communities, Kindoms where we do no harm to life and live for the lives of those around us, pulling away completely from "The System" of harm so that we no longer give it life to harm MAN/LIFE/NATURE/EARTH (anyone/anything) with.

Living Creator is present with the presence of life, while a "God" is not present with the presence of life. In present-sense, LIFE is the LIFE of horse or wind or rain or forests or mountains or MAN, etc.... LIFE is LIVING-CREATOR PRESENT WITH THE PRESENCE OF LIFE. We can sense LIFE (Living-Creator) in all sensory images of life/nature/earth, inanimate or not, but we can't sense a "God" or any other non-sensory image. Remember, we are talking about a living creator (God) here and not a dead God that is not present amongst the living.

MAN has the power/gift of life to set images/thoughts into motion which we do through our breath that is the water of LIFE (consciousness) of LIVING-CREATOR in present-sense. Unfortunately, because of MANS free-will, some of our ancestors created non-sensory images and made them out to be true. Using scrutiny to comprehend the clearly defined distinction between sense and non-sensory images is the challenge we all have to face and, until we rout out all the lies, we will continue doing harm to each other as we force each other to becomes slaves in a man-made "system" (image) of non-sense.

We are lost in the shadows of non-sensory images and, while we are lost, we are destroying the living, sensory dream of life. We are committing spiritual suicide because we are giving our power, our real lives, away to other men and women who have fallen for the lie that some men and women have a higher standing than others. This is what "The System", the reflection that is the lie of non-sensory images (DARKNESS), is all about and this is the lie that is killing everything of life, including our lives. Too busy lost in the shadows and serving the shadows, we have forgotten who we really are. This is what belief, faith and associated opinion does to us. This is why we are not "Christians" and why we have NO faith or belief in any man-made image. Truth does not require belief. Do we have to believe in a tree before we can sense it? Do we have to jump 10 feet across a room to grab our next breath?

Below, we have copied an email we sent yesterday...............

The Cristian Family November 2006 Hi Benjamin
Thanks for writing to us.
In a rental property, we are in the suburb of East Bowral, Southern Highlands, 70-80 minute drive-time south west Of Sydney Airport When it comes to co-creating real Kindoms/Do No Harm Communities/Tribes which a food forest is part of, and since early 2005, no, we don't know anyone else doing what we are doing. We say this with clarity because well over 100 million people have visited the Love For Life website and we've spoken with thousands of "alternative" type people all across Earth.

To save lots of time explaining our views here we have copied one of our Facebook posts from yesterday further down in this email. And below this post you will find mostly recent links to Love For Life videos, articles, songs, debates/discussions and podcasts.

They contain a vast amount of insights for you to contemplate on.

It's best you do not believe in anything we say and instead use your brain/senses to scrutinise all information and go where the logic of truth takes you.

Links to all other videos, etc, can be found here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385

Background information about us, can be found by scrolling down the Love For Life website Quick User Guide: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608

All the best to you and your extended family
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

The Cristian Family November 2006

Can We Get Past The Distractions
To Create Our True Freedom?

Facebook Post
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

28th April 2013

Link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10201010715618162

How do we apply this "free" way of life in a practical sense without "The System"?

How do we live with each other & nature/earth without doing harm to MAN/Earth/Nature?

Please read & watch:

"The Spell Is Broken": http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8365,

"A Spell Master At Work": http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8401,

"The Steps Of Kindom": http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304,

"OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit": Parts 1, 2, 3 (parts 4 & 5 soon) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qjp_9nlrBao,

"Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath)": Parts 1, 2, 3 (part 4 soon) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ze66_33wxM and

"From Bare Dirt To Abundance - A Year In The Life Of The Love For Life Food Forest": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A

All videos are embedded below.

All links and so much more information can be found here: www.loveforlife.com.au/node/8369.

The answer to the questions above is what we have been working on since 2005, learning how to walk the talk of true freedom without harm. We have found that, for most, this is so hard to do because of the extent that we are all compromised by "The System", hence the videos we are making to show how and why we are trapped. When we comprehend this, we can begin to turn our backs on "The System".

Put it this way, we have experienced 12 death threats, 4 assassination attempts, a kidnapping the torture of supporters in their late 70s, one with a bullet put through his hip,& then tortured for hours, the theft of family home & destruction of 2 businesses & being forced close to destitution & poverty with 4 young daughters to care for. & this is only scratching the surface.

This is not about getting into fear about it or giving it energy but if we can't see how "The System" works with it's intelligence networks & Freemasonic/Satanic orders, you won't be able to break the spells that keep you trapped. Yes, we need the courage to break free but also the clear vision to recognise just exactly what we are breaking free from, & the steps to break free & how not to re-create our enslavement under another guise for our descendants to come.

The work we have created is the gift that shows clearly the steps to take. The question is, who is willing to do what it takes? Taking full responsibility for your life is daunting but the ONLY way to true freedom.

We are ruled by images that are thoughts & we, MAN, are the only ones that can set images into motion. The trauma of our brainwashing is so great that these non-sensory (non present sense) images rule us, keeping us serving "The System".

Our true power is in present sense & it is in present sense that we focus on present sense images of life, who we really are, what we are really part of & how we walk the talk of a do no harm way of life.

The remedy is simple if we can see past the distractions. Once you/we/us fully comprehend the difference/distinction between non-sensory images (intellectual property) and present-sense images we can clearly move forward without recreating the same mistakes of enslavement made by our ancestors and us up to now.

Since 2005/2006, NO ONE can find fault in what we are saying and therefore be able to debunk the information and the Love For Life website has had well over 100 million people visit it thus far, and that is not forgetting the large traffic coming through Facebook and YouTube as well.

The Cristian Family November 2006

Frank O'Collins And His Ucadia
And One-Heaven.org
Worships "The System"
That Is The Beast And Is Hell


By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8407

5th March 2013

We received an email from Jon Lovell 5th March 2013 and below that is our reply.

Firstly a comment from Arthur & Fiona Cristian.

More On OPPT, Frank O'Collins and UCADIA.

The point is "The Intellect Will Never Lead You To Truth". It can't, because the intellect is just thoughts/ideas/images made up by other men and women telling you how to think, feel and act about sensory life-forms you observe all around you.

If you hold up a mirror to reflect the sensory image of the whole of nature/earth/MAN, this reflection/picture is not real. The reflection cannot give you the truth about nature/Earth/MAN because it is not nature/Earth/MAN. The only way to get the truth about nature/Earth/MAN is through direct, sensory experience/perception with nature/Earth/MAN. This reflection is a shadow, an illusion.

ALL of the information of "The System" is made up of reflections and the intellect is an impostor impersonating information of sensory life-forms, inanimate or not. This act of performing as an impostor is committing fraud and is a lie, because we claim that the information is coming directly from the sensory life form when it is not.

The intellect is a reflection of a non-sensory image bouncing to and fro as a memory, and it floats aimlessly around because it has no home to rest, no sensory purpose for the dream of sensory life. This reflection, the intellect, is just an echo of another man's image, no different to the reflection of that man in the mirror. The intellect is not present to sensory life because it is not of sensory life and, worshipping the intellect makes us also not present to sensory life and then able to harm and destroy sensory life because we have become unconscious of the affects of our actions.

The intellect is the matrix, it a fantasy world of make believe. All "system science" is make believe. The education system, the university degrees and all the books and learned texts of "The System" occur only in the intellect. Where can our children go and learn this information without being exposed to the intellect? Where can they naturally experience it in nature?

The reflections of the intellect perform like echoes that have no home to rest. They are bodiless thought-forms empty of life/consciousness and without eternal peace. All we can do is put them to sleep forevermore which we do when we forget about them, no longer giving them life by setting them into motion as demons to possess (HOOD) us because that is ALL they can do, they have nowhere else to go.

If you are relying on the intellect, you are looking for the MAN in the reflection and you will never find him. If you have been exposed to the intellect and trained to use it, you have been hijacked from truth and, while you keep using the intellect to find truth, you will always be searching and truth will always be at arms length.

The whole of the dream of Life is sacred because every MAN is created uniquely out of nature and has original thoughts embodied with the power, the life, the gift of living creator that we are, but we destroy the image of pure and sincere MAN when we craft a man out of the intellect. OPPT and UCADIA are used to create a reflection of MAN and Earth, which means that we are creating a MAN out of another MAN's image, giving our power away to the creator of the image and giving him/her the status of a God. We are not meant to be created in the image of another MAN and the mess that we are in, the mess that is "The System", has been created this way because it is all the images of other men and women that we have fallen for.

OPPT and UCADIA are fashioned out of the intellect. They are the images of other men and, if we continue to create MAN in the image of OPPT and UCADIA, we will only be creating reflections of MAN. This is the apocalypse, this is genocide, this is chaos, and this is the hell often referred to as "The System".

For more on these insights refer to these posts (videos are embedded further down in this webpage):

Turning Away From The Reflection
Of MANS Looking Glass

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
30th April 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8404
https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10201022455671656

Frank O'Collins And His Ucadia
And One-Heaven.org
Worships "The System"
That Is The Beast And Is Hell

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
30th April 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8407

A Spell Master At Work
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
21st April 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8401

OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
27th February 2013 onwards...
Part One: http://youtu.be/Qjp_9nlrBao
Part Two: http://youtu.be/tbybeOWZ-Bc
Part Three: http://youtu.be/yOWoxH-HbVw
Part Four: coming
Part Five: coming

The Spell Is Broken
Taking The Land To Create Kindom

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8365

"The Steps Of Kindom"
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

Ben Lowrey Interviews Arthur Cristian
Love For Life - 8th February 2012
95 Minutes 28 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH25tucSZSo

The Dream Of Life Part 6 - Under The Spell Of Intellectual Property
Arthur Cristian - 51 Minutes 52 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMK7CkU1ih8

The "Name" Is The Mark Of The Beast The Strawman
Identifying Your Slave Status In "The System"
By Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
5th February 2012 - 56 Minutes 25 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdOag66v7uo

Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 8th February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8350
Part One: http://youtu.be/4ze66_33wxM - 70 Minutes 5 Seconds
Part Two: http://youtu.be/43gIi-sjxJc - 81 Minutes 13 Seconds
Part Three: http://youtu.be/oooY6W63K-M - 70 Minutes 18 Seconds
Part Four: coming

All the best to you and your family
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

Email received from Jon Lovell

“Arthur,

Greetings, my name is Jon Lovell. I stand on the firm-land of America; in the province of Virginia, & am 30 years of age. I think this will be the third time I've written to you; concerning your subtle, inert attempts in subverting the model of UCADIA.

Rather, than engage in ad hominem, to which I must hold myself responsible for doing, in my previous e-mails to you, I will despond in less-fallacious devices & guard my honor-as well as yours.

I disagree with many of the philosophies on your website, as well as the various posts by you & your agents, scattered about the internet, respectively. Yet, what is most disconcerting to me, is the bevy of contradictory suppositions, inherent in your message. Yes, make no mistake, Arthur, you too, are not above the specter of belief, though you may fancy yourself to be; purely, comprised of ‘love & life.’ Your misbelief & distrust, in UCADIA, presupposes “half of the story.” Say one, blindly, accepts your postulation: that we are ‘conscious love’ & light. Now, how do you prove it? Where is the proof? Then, you say, “Well, the proof is in nature. Just look at the song of life.” Alright then, how would you account for your unique form in dimension, your weight & substance bonding you to the earth, the note-worthy inclusion of 48 chromosomes in every species of primate, except ‘humanity?’ You reply, “Oh, well, that’s because we’re conscious love & light.” Dissimulation & “half-truths” are far more dangerous than lies. They undermine, stuffily; castigate. As much as one may want to, one must not ‘over-simplify’ one’s way towards the discovery of ‘truth.’ One must construct a model of simple axiom, which instructs itself to the resolution of, both, simple & complex axiom. This is the only way to navigate the ‘paradox.’ You cannot resolve it by saying, ‘we’re all made up of sugar, spice, & everything nice, so we don’t need rules to exist-’I trust that rhetorical device was sufficiently useful. Yes, the greatest expression of free will is in the form of ‘anarchy.’ However, at the risk of appealing to force, I must say, if we were ever to experience pure free will, in this dimension, then existence, in form, would cease. There must be co-dependency, to some degree, at all times, & the only way to circumnavigate this conundrum is in the form of an idea, a model; a dream. There will always be rules, whether in heaven, nature, or in society. You can either reconcile this through diminutive, infantile emotion or through reason, logic, & truth.

In closing, my sincere hope is that, you, thoroughly, read & digest the material of UCADIA before engaging in public denouncement. It is not Frank’s model anymore; it is it’s own & all of ours. So you longer offend him-you offend me. I realize how easy it is to whine, first, & ask questions later, yet the key to UCADIA is: you have to keep reading. Every, single reservation & incomprehension expressed, in your denouncements or through your website, is within the model of UCADIA; you just haven’t read it or computated it, correctly. It has nothing to do with the model, & more likely, something to do with the efficacy of your message. I urge you to remove any & all vestiges, of public vilification of UCADIA, from your website & publications; lest you place yourself & your authors in grave dishonor. If your desire is to criticize, then do so on a point for counter-point basis, with a model equally as or more superior than UCADIA. You have no right to cause doubt & conflict, in people, not as well-versed in the art of propaganda, purely, to satisfy some superstitious predilection of yours or your wife’s to ‘balance mother nature-’ this is not an appeal ‘pathos,’ yet “notice to agent is notice to principal.” This is a private transmission, & I am not speaking on behalf of UCADIA, only myself..

The Cristian Family November 2006 We replied to Jon Lovell 5th March 2013……………..

Hi Jon
Ucadia is not a remedy. It is “intellectual property” that you have been trained to re-present while under the “spells” of that intellectual property.

Ucadia is not present with the presence of Life; only a dumbed-down MAN present with the presence of LIFE can act on behalf of Ucadia.

This means the MAN is possessed by a demon – possession as in possesZION/possesSION.

If they were not exposed to “The System” or to anyone else exposed to "The System", where could our children go to in nature to learn about Ucadia? Would they be able to find out and comprehend Ucadia without a brainwashed MAN explaining it to them?

We are not meant to be IN the image (under-the-standing ) of another MAN. We are all meant to be creating unique/original thoughts.

Do you have to jump 10 feet across a room to grab your next breath? Of course not; in PRESENT-SENSE everything of LIFE is provided.

Living Creator (truth/life/nature/earth/MAN) is in PRESENT-SENSE – we breathe only here and now and all MANS thoughts occur only here and now. Past and future thoughts/images/information require MAN/us to exist in present-sense to think and feel them. Without MAN in present-sense all past and future thoughts/information/images cannot be.

There is so much to all of this so if you feel inspired to do so you can watch Love For Life videos, articles, debates/discussions to help you comprehend the bigger picture. Links provided below.

Frank O’Collins cannot back his claims about Ucadia.

“Hello Ucadia please talk to us”??? “Hellooooo — “Hellllooooooo” — “Uuuuuccccaaadddiiiaaa” “Anyone Home”?

You see Jon, only a brainwashed MAN can come forward to re-present Ucadia and this is FRAUD and a LIE.

Ucadia is not a first party, instead it’s a third party.

All you have here is a MAN-made story and that’s it!

There is no sensory life-form embodying this information, therefore Ucadia is NON-SENSORY/non-sense.

Ucadia is Wonderland and the brainwashed/trained re-presentative of Ucadia is Alice through Ucadia’s looking glass.

Ucadia is a shield, an IMAGE Frank O’Collins uses to hide behind to derive power and control over another MAN, meaning “The System”.

Ucadia COMPELS another MAN to perform. This is black-magic and is demonic-possession.

Ucadia is a false-idol.

Ucadia is a story and Frank is its story-teller – All Freemasons/Satanists are brilliant clever story-tellers.

Images of deception are non-sense IMAGES that are the “spells”.

Are you under the “spell” of Ucadia, Jon?

Put it to the test – back your claims, bring forward the first parties.

It is so very important to learn the difference between SENSE and NON-SENSE.

Everything will start becoming clear for you, that’s if you are willing to go where logic of truth/sense/life/consciousness takes you.

If you are filtering everything through belief, and discard all other information that does not meet with your belief, this is the evidence of the “spell” at play on you, Jon.

In the middle of the word belief is the word lie and in the middle of the word lie is the word “i” and “i” is the greatest lie of all.

The greatest lie and liar is the one closest to truth.

It only takes one drop of black (lie) into pure sincere white to distort the whole of truth (white).

Truth is always in PRESENT-SENSE while lies are bound to NON-PRESENT-SENSE (past or future).

Lies are NON-SENSE. The IMAGES of lies are never in PRESENT-SENSE You cannot touch, taste, feel, smell, hear, see them as SENSORY LIFE-FORMS of nature – remember we are talking about a living-creator in present-sense and not a dead-corpse-fiction. Example: “The Thought Of God Is Not God”. All liars can do is destroy sensory life-forms of nature/earth to construct dead-corpse physical/material images that are now without sensory-life. They can’t talk, walk, think. feel, poo, wee, negotiate, contract, contemplate, create-life, etc. They are DEAD IMAGES (NON-SENSE) as in A, B, C or 1, 2, 3 or compass, square, etc., and everything that comes out of these abominations are dead too, which is why they need dumbed-down MAN to re-present these IMAGES.

We, MAN are not meant to follow non-sense-IMAGES, Jon……. as in Crucified MAN on a cross – look where this has got us! Or Coca Cola or McDonalds.

Please watch the videos, read the articles and get up to speed.

Don’t believe in anything we say. Instead use your brain/senses and scrutinise ALL information and go where the logic of truth/sense takes you. We/MAN are not meant to DO HARM to the dream of LIFE starting with MAN. We/MAN are the ONLY ones who can set images into motion – to give them life. If we are on the true path, IMAGES set into motion are sensory life-forms with the FORCE of Life to take full-responsibility for their image in present sense. We do not have to slave for these sensory life-forms, inanimate or not. But it all goes wrong when we fall into motion having to act everything on behalf of a non-sense image which makes slaves out of us. This non-sense image is a lie. Note: All thoughts are images.

Frank O’Collins re-presents “The System”, as Ucadia is "The System" under another guise. When you fall for belief you are under the “spell” of a re-legion (religion) and behind all religions/myths/fairytales/occults/esoterics/Gods/etc., as documented across all recorded ages is “THE SYSTEM” which is HELL.

Frank O’Collins is a practising black-magic warlock casting “spells" of NON-SENSE.

We met Frank face to face back in 2010 and we knew then, after asking him questions, that he was a trained liar.

Whether he is conscious of this or not (under a “spell) we don’t know yet. Up until now, Frank hasn't let his beliefs be put to the test of scrutiny with us.

Watch these videos and read the articles and get back to us once you fully comprehend what is really going on.

We suggest you also check out Arthur’s CIA’s Facebook wall for all the latest – use the scam of OPPT/CVAC information we've been posting for 8 days now as the test for UCADIA and Frank O'Collins.

All the best
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

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LINKS

Link To Find A List Of All
Articles, Debates, Discussions, Videos & Podcasts
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian

http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385

BACKGROUND

Macquarie Bank
To learn what happened with Macquarie Bank from 2005 onwards go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5

The Cristian Family
To explore what happened since March 2005 to change our lives and fill us with so many inspiring insights
can be found by scrolling down through this webpage: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608
The disclaimers will fill you in even more.

Extensive Research Library
Over 11,000 individual articles, research documents, podcasts, videos, discussions/debates, etc,
are contained within the Extensive Research Library: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/82
Well over 100 million browsers have visited the website since December 2006.

Examples Of Many:

Astronomy - Geocentricity - Heliocentricity - Does The Earth Go Around The Sun Or Does The Sun Go Around The Earth?
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3455

Dinosaurs - Are They Still Amongst Us? Evidence Says They Are
Dinosaurs: Science Or Science Fiction by David Wozney
Dinosaur DECEPTION! Dinosaurs Never Existed! Dinosaur Fossils Are A Hoax

http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3457

Raw Food - Living Food - Vegetarian Websites - Recipes - Lots Of Information On Why A Living Food Diet
This link provides embedded videos created by Gary Yourofsky
and a documentary "A Delicate Balance - The Truth" created by Aaron Schiebner.
He is the grandson of Dr Vera Scheibner, a very well-known anti-vaccine campaigner.
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5068

Check out the Food Forest we created in a very short period of time.
We demonstrate how to grow lots of organic food in small spaces quickly.
More videos coming shortly:
Filmed: 5th December 2012
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8344
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJQTSZk3kmQ

and

"From Bare Dirt To Abundance"
A Year In The Life Of The
Love For Life Food Forest

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
8th February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8352
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A

OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
27th February 2013 onwards...
Part One: http://youtu.be/Qjp_9nlrBao
Part Two: http://youtu.be/tbybeOWZ-Bc
Part Three: http://youtu.be/yOWoxH-HbVw
Part Four: coming

and

The Spell Is Broken
Taking The Land To Create Kindom

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8365

Facebook
We also post lots of information including Love For Life debates/discussions on Facebook.
As examples of many, links to some of these debates/discussions, like Julian Assange, are provided in this email/post.
Links to Arthur's Facebook wall and other Love For Life group pages are also provided below.

QUICK INTRODUCTION INTO
THE LOVE FOR LIFE INSIGHTS

Video: Interview With Ben Lowrey (this provides a fast overview of our work and insights etc)
and
Video: The "Name" Is The Mark Of The Beast The Strawman
Identifying Your Slave Status In "The System"

and
Video: The Dream Of Life Part 6 - Under The Spell Of Intellectual Property
and
Video: Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath)
and
Video: The Dream Of Life videos - Part 5A, 5B & 5C - System Science Is Fraud And The Timeline Of Chaos
All links provided below.

SONGS

Song - Save Our Lives - Rough Demo - With Lyrics
Written By Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
August 2007 - 5 Minutes 38 Seconds

Song - Celebrate Death To The Living - Rough Demo - With Lyrics
Written By Hannah Wood & Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
July 2012 - 6 Minutes 30 Seconds

More professionally made Love For Life videos & songs will be posted in the coming months.
We've been on a massive learning curve in almost all areas of the Love For Life work we do.
We basically started as amateurs/novices.

RECENT ARTICLES / DEBATES / DISCUSSIONS

The Spell Is Broken
Taking The Land To Create Kindom

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8365

Control The Land
And You Control MAN On The Land
Displace MAN From Land
And You Turn MAN Into Slaves

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
April 2011 (Updated 14th September 2011)
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8237

The Incarceration of Dean Clifford
Email Sent To Wayne Swan
Govern(men)t Of Canada
Just(us) Department
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
9th February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8349

Difference Between Limited Liability/Responsibility
And Full Liability/Responsibility

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Facebook - 13th July 2012
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8295

Alloidal Rights/Natural Rights Is "Intellectual Property"
The Basis Of "Ownership"

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Facebook - 19th July 2012
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8297

The Deception Of Alphabet Languages
Causing MANS Spiritual Suicide
The True Purpose Behind The Invention
Of Phonetics & Etymology

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 20th July 2012
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8299

The Dual In Duality
Trapped In The Reflection Of 'i" Projection

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 3rd August 2012
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8301

We Are Saying That "Going Within" Or "Going Without"
Is Non-Sense, Is "Intellectual Property",
Is Part Of The "System Science" "Spells"

A Facebook Discussion & Debate
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 8th to 11th August 2012
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8302

Yellow Never Told Us It Was Yellow
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
12th September 2012
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8319

The Non-Sense Obstacles
Of The "Sustainability Movement"
How The "Haves" (Rulers)
Still Want The "Have Nots" (Slaves)

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Facebook - 5th May to 2nd June 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8178

Vortex Of Deactivation And Inactivity
Possible Facebook Espionage
Or Almost Undetectable Hacking

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
24th August 2012
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8316

Julian Assange - Wikileaks
Another Of The Many "Good Guys" Coming Out
Of The Freemasonic/Satanic Production Line
With The Intention To Lead The Duped Sheeple
Into Entering The New World Order

A Facebook Discussion
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
Starting 27th August 2012
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8347

Example: A4 page/Fax Sent To Gatton Court House Qld
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
15th December 2012
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8346

REMEDY

Links to "The Steps Of Kindom"
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304
or
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8256
or
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5788

Link to "The Steps Of Kindom Background"
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8305

VIDEOS

OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
27th February 2013 onwards.....
Part One: http://youtu.be/Qjp_9nlrBao

Part Two: http://youtu.be/tbybeOWZ-Bc

Part Three: http://youtu.be/yOWoxH-HbVw

Part Four: coming

"From Bare Dirt To Abundance"
A Year In The Life Of The
Love For Life Food Forest

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
8th February 2013
51 Minutes 46 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8352

Love For Life Kindom Garden Bowral
Created By 18 Year Old Aidan

5th December 2012
4 Minutes 27 Seconds
http://youtu.be/eJQTSZk3kmQ
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8344

Ben Lowrey Interviews Arthur Cristian
Love For Life - 8th February 2012

95 Minutes 28 Seconds

The "Name" Is The Mark Of The Beast The Strawman
Identifying Your Slave Status In "The System"

By Arthur Cristian - Love For Life - www.loveforlife.com.au
5th February 2012 - 56 Minutes 25 Seconds

The Dream Of Life Part 6 - Under The Spell Of Intellectual Property
Arthur Cristian - 51 Minutes 52 Seconds

Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 8th February 2013
Part One: http://youtu.be/4ze66_33wxM - 70 Minutes 5 Seconds

Part Two: http://youtu.be/43gIi-sjxJc - 81 Minutes 13 Seconds

Part Three : http://youtu.be/oooY6W63K-M - 70 Minutes 18 Seconds

http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8350
Part Four: coming

The Dream Of Life - Part 5A - System Science Is Fraud And The Timeline Of Chaos
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - 57 Minutes 35 Seconds

The Dream Of Life - Part 5B - System Science Is Fraud And The Timeline Of Chaos
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - 67 Minutes 26 Seconds

The Dream Of Life - Part 5C - System Science Is Fraud And The Timeline Of Chaos
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - 67 Minutes 25 Seconds

The Dream Of Life - Part 5D - Images Of Deception
The Intelligence Agents Amongst Us
"We Will Lead Every Revolution Against Us"

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - 44 Minutes 53 Seconds

The Dream Of Life - Part One
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
62 Minutes 47 Seconds

The Dream Of Life - Part Two
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
83 Minutes 47 Seconds

The Dream Of Life - Part Three
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
91 Minutes 10 Seconds

The Dream Of Life - Part Four
Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
57 Minutes 30 Seconds

Key To Kindom - Co-Creation Of Do No Harm Communities
Causing A Mass Exodus From "The System"

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - February 2011
24 Minutes 48 Seconds

Dream Of Life - Kindom Garden Update
4th February 2012 - Love For Life
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
17 Minutes 16 Seconds

Once Upon A Time by Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
Short Stories Recorded Mid 2009
8 Minutes 38 Seconds

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Comments

Max Igan & The Fraud Of The

The Cristian Family November 2006

Max Igan & The Fraud Of The OPPT
(One Peoples Public Trust)
Facebook Discussion With Arthur & Fiona Cristian
17th to 19th February 2013

Link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/168861396594454

Arthur Cristian

17th February 2013 - Sunday at 18:52

The One Peoples Public Trust (OPPT); we are saying that it is not a remedy. We have copied a discussion on another thread involving Max Igan, which may continue. If it does, we will keep posting it here as well.

Part One

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w344_hYuB6Y&list=PLiMTFp5iNlb8BePAjF_qkrB...

Part Two

Part Three

Part Four

Part Five

The link to the discussion with Max Igan: https://www.facebook.com/mai.k.hartvagzimbleman/posts/444883058914689

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

Debate continues below the three OPPT embedded videos we made after this debate.

OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
27th February 2013 onwards.....

Part One: http://youtu.be/Qjp_9nlrBao

Part Two: http://youtu.be/tbybeOWZ-Bc

Part Three: http://youtu.be/yOWoxH-HbVw

Part Four: coming
Part Five: coming

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Tina van der Walt:

looks like Max Igan thinks OPPT is credible?

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Arthur Cristian

It's not a remedy - Just one tiny drop of black/grey into pure white and it's no longer pure white. Just one lie is sufficient to distort everything of truth. The Love For Life videos explain all this in great detail including the remedy.

http://youtu.be/4ze66_33wxM Video: Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath) - Part One, Two and Three - Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 8th February 2013. The main theme of this video is water, how we are water and everything we think, feel and do affects water. With this background, the video explores many areas of "The System" and how our addiction to and support of "The System" has catastrophic effects on the water of life. This video is over 3 hours long so we split it into 4 parts. The full version is also being uploaded. We notice that there are a few points that we touched on but didn't come back to; we will include them in Part Four to cover what we left out.

Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 8th February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8350
Part One: http://youtu.be/4ze66_33wxM - 70 Minutes 5 Seconds

Part Two: http://youtu.be/43gIi-sjxJc - 81 Minutes 13 Seconds

Part Three : http://youtu.be/oooY6W63K-M - 70 Minutes 18 Seconds

Part Four: coming

Refer below for the continuation of the information Arthur posted

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Arthur Cristian

From Bare Dirt To Abundance - A Year In The Life Of The Love For Life Food Forest - Arthur & Fiona Cristian - 8th February 2013. When we are all creating abundance, there is so much to share that there is no need for greed and selfishness anymore, no fear of not having what we need and no need for barter, commerce and contracts ("The System"). Taking Full-Responsibility For Our Lives, For Everything We Think, Feel & Do, All We Need Is A Small Piece Of Land To Care For Including Clean Water, Shelter And A Food Forest. The Issue Is Not Over-Population, The Issue Is Greed & Selfishness, Power, Control & Ignorance. There Is More Than Enough Room For Every Family To Have A Hectare Of Land To Care For. One Of The Keys To Our Mass Exodus From "The System" Is Raw, Living Food Because When We Eat This Way We Don't Need Vast Fields Of Wheat And Cattle. The Purer We Become In The Way We Eat, The Less We Need Mining, Large-Scale Agriculture, Transportation, Electricity, Gas, Petroleum And The Less We Produce Garbage So No More Landfills... The Benefits Go On And On And On Resolving ALL Our Problems. Best Of All, We Become Free, Free From Sickness, Free From Stress, Free From Brainwashing and Free from "The System"..... When Our Intention And Determination Is To Create Freedom, Truth, Peace, Joy, Abundance, No Loss Of Uniqueness/Originality And No Slaves And Rulers In The Lives Of Everyone And Everything Around Us, And This Is What We Live For, Then We Have It And We Are Living In Paradise. This Is The ONLY Way To Create Community/Family. What A Contrast To "The System" Where We Are Taught To Live For Our-Selves, To "Look Out For No. 1".

"From Bare Dirt To Abundance"
A Year In The Life Of The
Love For Life Food Forest

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
8th February 2013
51 Minutes 46 Seconds
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8352
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A

Refer below for the continuation of the information Arthur posted

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Note: We have removed the post containing all the links to Love For Life articles, videos, debates, discussions, etc, to the bottom of this thread.

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

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Max Igan

Actually Arthur, Ive looked at it and it would appear that it is indeed a remedy and not only that but its already signed and sealed. Theres nothing to sign up for, no movement to join and nothing you need to do. All it means is that people now have two options. One is to stand in your power, free and answerable only to the creator, the other is continue participating in the slavery system. The choice is up to the individual.

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Arthur Cristian

This supposed remedy is still "The System under another guise Max, we looked into it as well when they first came up with it and asked us to take a look at it. To us, any version of "The System" is not a remedy. Though there maybe good intentions behind the makers of this document they are either naive, or are being misled or are blatantly lying to everyone when claims of a remedy are being made. It most definitely is NOT a remedy. Lets put it to the test of scrutiny. Would you like to debate about this?

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Max Igan

Well Arthur, in regard to Mankind, and our little place in the universe, ultimately the system itself, the UCC and everything about it is fiction as, in reality, all there really is, is the creator, us, the earth and the creatures it's ecosystems supports, everything else is fiction - we made the whole thing up... and Ive been standing in that one truth for quite some time. But for those who are locked into left brain and who will only ever feel free if they see it on paper, this appears very much to be remedy as it frees man using the same system that has been used to enslave them, and by the use of its very own rulebook to do so, because in this world, everything that is man made fiction, every business, every bank, every country, every state and every corporate entity comes under the UCC. And if this filing is seen to be invalid then so is the UCC and so is the system. Im still looking into it but at the moment, I cant find a flaw in the logic or in the filing. ... To be honest though brother, when I talk to you there is an issue at the back of my mind that always nags me and I will simply not be able to converse with you on an even keel until it is addressed so if we are going to debate anything, if I may be so bold, Id like to first talk about the time Anastasia from the Ringing Cedars series came to australia to visit you... Why? well, because its an issue for me brother... Why is it an issue for me? Well, because as you yourself have stated: "Just one tiny drop of black/grey into pure white and it's no longer pure white. Just one lie is sufficient to distort everything of truth.."

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Arthur Cristian

Hi Max, this is Arthur & Fiona writing here. Then we are off to have our rest. We don't ask anyone to believe in such a direct experience and do not depend on others believing it to give us some kind of standing. We have not turned this experience into a cult or sect or a following of any sort, nor have we used it to take advantage of others by commercializing a business venture/enterprise from such an experience. We are all unique not one the same as the next. Arthur's direct experience of being woken up by Anastasia "one early morning back in 2007" is Arthur's unique experience.

Have you not had any unique direct experiences?

Does Arthur's direct experience of Anastasia make him less of a MAN than another MAN who may or may not have had a direct experience?

All we have done is shared the experience and moved on.

Is there something wrong with that?

Arthur can have a direct experience with a tree but he doesn't want you to believe in that experience; he want's you to go and have a direct experience with the tree. All Arthur did was say to Anastasia, when he went to bed after first reading the books, "If this is true and we have a connection, you have his permission to contact him/visit him." and then later he was woken up by a very strong voice with a Russian like accent saying loudly, "Hello".Arthur was startled and sat up in bed and said "What do you want?" Then he started laughing and went back to rest. That was it, nothing more, nothing less. Yes, Anastasia was an inspiration of that "time" but neither of us live our lives out of such an experience, instead we use it ONLY as a reference point and move on. We don't "own" it, we don't make a claim over "intellectual property". We refuse to live our lives exclusively out of the image of another MAN.

Max, are you trying to circumscribe Arthur into an image of your expectation, of your ownership, of your claim, of your power?

What is the information that you are sitting on that is bugging you?

The "Steps Of Kindom" remedy we are sharing was partially inspired by Vladimir Megre's Ringing Cedars books because the idea of every family caring for a hectare of land to take FULL-responsibility for is sensible and workable and means there is enough room for all of us/MAN to have the space we need to take care of the land and of our families, and through peaceful contemplation create unique do no harm thoughts and dreams.

We don't carry the image of Anastasia before us in the way that Christians carry the image of Jesus before them. She is not our shield nor is she a centre of intellectual property - we do not worship her. In fact, we have been using senses and scrutinising information coming from everywhere to come up with the vast array of insights that we share in the body of the Love For Life work (videos, articles, debates/discussions/etc) so we don't need to live our lives out of Anastasia, or anyone/anything else. We live for having unique thoughts/images and unique lives.

We are determined, as we keep learning and through practice to remove more and more of the re-presentation of intellectual property from our lives and communication as in "Mankind" and "our little place in the Universe".

Can you bring forward the Universe to back the claim that we have "a little place" in it?

We do not expect anyone to live their lives out of Arthur's experience with Anastasia; we have shared it and moved on. Do you expect people to live their lives out of your claim about our "little place in the Universe"?

When it comes to the Love For Life work, the buck stops with us; we take full responsibility for everything we say, write and do. Anastasia is not a cop out for us, she is not a third party in our affairs, in our lives, in our relationships for others to deal with. She is not an "Alice in Wonderland" that we are trying to re-present.

We are determined to inspire and honour the uniqueness out of every man, woman and child's making, not to have them "fit" under the "Oneness" glue that "The One People's Public Trust" would have us moulded into. Who is the power, the authority that they are serving the non-sense papers to? Who are they answerable to and who are they claiming that we are all answerable to? Who gives them the authority to re-present every man, woman and child? Are we not all unique? Do we not have free will? Is the claimed Force going to go away now? Do these pieces of paper suddenly have the power of life, of MAN? You say, ".....if this filing is seen to be invalid then so is the UCC and so is the system." Of course they are invalid because they have nothing to do with the sensory dream of life. They are not sensory and have no life to offer life.

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Max Igan

In regards to this topic I dont really see the relevence of 90% of what was just written, but suffice to say that what bugs me is that Arthur told me that Anastasia came to Australia to visit him... that was the last time I spoke to him... because I simply do not believe it.

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Max Igan

if you look at the oppt, it doesnt claim to represent anyone. It simply offers them a way out via the methodology I previously explained. The choice of whether to take it or to remain part of the slavery system is their own.

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Max Igan

and I have no ownership and make no claim of power over anything or anyone but myself.

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Arthur Cristian

Hi Max, your comment was about whether Anastasia visited Arthur - this was what the reply was mainly about. You say you don't believe it. So what? We don't ask anyone to believe what we say, only to think about what we say/share and to use their brains/senses/scrutiny to work things out in their unique way. Arthur never said that Anastasia came to Australia, as in by plane or ship or physically moving her body, if this is what you are implying. What he said, as written on the website back in 2007 and still up now, is that he, on the land of "Australia" was woken up by her presence, her voice. This was his experience, take it or leave it, believe it or not, and is exactly what Arthur shared with you and others he spoke to about it. Why are you bringing this topic up anyway, when it is such a minor, tiny part of what we are about? Has the sharing of this experience done any harm to you or anyone? If so, can you show us the incontrovertible evidence of this harm, and we are not talking about your belief here because that is not evidence but is fantasy that is a lie?

Max, is this an attempt to thwart the topic of the thread by attacking Arthur's character by making out that he is a liar? Wasn't this thread about the fact that we are saying that the OPPT is not a remedy. What has Anastasia visiting Arthur got to do with any of this? The Love For Life videos, articles and debates that we have been posting since October 2011, clearly demonstrate why the OPPT is a fraud. Do your homework, or do we have to repeat everything essential here?

We do not see the remedy the OPPT are offering. Here lies the lie. What is the document for if it does not show us the remedy to our current lives of Hell that is "The System". So this document has been presented but what are we all doing still? Are we not still getting out of bed, driving our cars, going to work, using electricity, gas, etc, paying taxes, consuming, consuming, consuming while Earth dies around us, while people still perform as politicians, as Police Officers, as armies, as private corporations, etc, etc. Has the commerce stopped? .......LOL...... X 50. This clearly shows the absurdity of the OPPT and anything similar.

Has the FORCE of "The System" put down its weapons and gone home? Are we now free to live on the land, undisturbed and un-harassed by the re-presentatives of "The System"?

You say they are offering a way out but what are they offering a way out of?

Are they offering a way out of the obligations of "The System" while still wanting to collect the benefits of "The System"?

Do they need a force of "Good Guys" to protect them while they provide the administrative services of the OPPT, meaning the services and protection of all the claims of intellectual property superimposed over land, etc.? If there isn't any of this, then what is the point of the document? If no one is making a claim of ownership over land anymore then there is nothing to lose and nothing to fight for and nothing to be in fear of because we already have everything and there is no harm being caused to any man, woman or child. We don't need a man-made system! BUT, if people are still making intellectual property claims superimposed over land, and those behind the OPPT and others supporting the OPPT know this, then they know that the people with the claims need a system to protect their claims and provide order. So they have to give their power away to an authority and again we are back to square one, back to the gradualism of MAN's descent into abuse by the power of authority that has been developed to allow the continuation of that power and control.

This then leads to the fact that we are all the descendants of the men and women of tribes of MAN all across Earth, our ancestors, who were invaded and decimated by the power of those behind "The System" to maintain that power and control across the generations to come, us, through govern(men)t, constitution (con-stitch-u-on), democracy (de-mock-race), etc. Prior to the invasion, this system of govern(men)t and everything that comes with it, was not on this land we are standing on. In their records, it has only been here since the late 1700s, yet we are given the impression that it is eternal and that we cannot live without it or escape it. Again we have the absurdity of the small "time" frame of total control by "The System" over MAN in contrast to the vastness of the ways of tribal life of MAN without "The System". And let's not rely on their recorded His-story either, because we know we cannot trust that.

Under the OPPT, what happens to all the men, women and particularly the children - are they still being brainwashed into the conditioning that has them under-stand the con-cept of "The System" Wonderland with all its workings and accept, maintain and comply to "The System", even if it is a "new" system". Are they not still the cogs in the wheels turning the machine? How does our way of life change under the OPPT? Show us the evidence that people are moving away from "The System" because of the impact of this document.

Is this document based on belief?

Is anything else required?

Or is this another "Jesus"; we no longer have anything to worry about because Jesus, or the OPPT or the Galactic Federation or Nesara is coming to take care of everything? Sit back and relax now, everyone, with your belief by your side, comforting you in these dark times.

Who is taking full responsibility in present sense to make sure that the harm stops? If people are taking full-responsibility to stop the harm being set into motion in all its forms, where is the mass exodus from "The System" of harm? If it is just another feel-good/feel-God/Creator version of "The System", then this is just a continuation of the same garbage, of men, women and children giving up full-responsibility for their lives because they are under the influence of other men and women telling them how to think, feel and act. How can anyone take full-responsibility for their lives when they are under limited liability because they have other men and women making decisions about their lives. This is not freedom. Anything less than freedom is not freedom and is a lie which is what "The System" of govern(men)t is all about, be it spiritual, divine or not.

If the OPPT is not about moving away from "The System", then it is not a remedy and everyone supporting it is supporting a lie and the enslavement of those around them. Do you support this document, as you appear to be saying? If you do, you are part of the problem and supporting a lie too because you don't want MAN to remember who we really are. Again, refer to the Love For Life work for the bigger picture (we will post the links below) and get back to us to let us know where you stand. You have a big responsibility to ensure that what you are promoting is not a lie because you have an influence over people. Is this not why you do what you do, just as we do what we do?

You talk about the "methodology", using "The System's" rules, regulations, mathematics and languages and all the images that come from the education, media, etc. of "The System" to free us from "The System". If people need to see that they are free on a piece of paper to believe that they are free, then they have not woken up because, if they had, they would know that no piece of paper can ever set them free. Are we going to take the OPPT round to Harold and Mary watching TV and say, "Look Harold and Mary, you are now free!"? How are their lives going to change if they have not done the thinking, do not realise that they are not free and do not have the intention to be free? If we do not take full responsibility for our freedom, we are not free.

Most people have no desire to have power and control over others and therefore are not interested in being part of govern(men)t, which works very well for the few who DO want power and control over others. And then again, most people are too distracted and busy just trying to keep the roof over the heads of their families and the food on the table to really think about what is going on and why.

You say you make no claim and have no ownership over anything but you have made a claim. You are questioning Arthur's integrity, re-presenting him, making out that what you are saying is the truth about/in Arthur's life. Why should you doubt that experience? Were you present, in that room, to that experience? Are you practising the craft of black magic as in remote viewing? Do you have an all-seeing-eye? Fiona was present in the room but she was asleep and didn't wake up; does that mean the experience didn't happen? She doesn't KNOW if it happened or not but this does not mean she has to question Arthur's integrity and say that it didn't happen. As we said last night, this experience has not been used as a basis for our work or for the remedy we offer. It has no influence at all on what we are sharing, so where is the harm? We back, with full-responsibility, the remedy "The Steps Of Kindom" and are happy for others to debate with us and scrutinise. We go where the sensory logic of truth takes us and, if someone presents us with a do no harm remedy that is better than "The Steps Of Kindom", we will happily focus all our energy there.

The remedy we offer provides freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance and do no harm for all of life without causing loss of uniqueness/originality for everyone and everything and without the need for slaves and rulers. Does OPPT provide this? What are the practical steps it offers to achieve this do no harm way of life? Is this not what you dream for, and what everyone else dreams for? Why would anyone not want freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance and do no harm for all of life without causing loss of uniqueness/originality for everyone and everything and without the need for slaves and rulers? Anything less than that is a continuation of the present chaos = "The System"..

We came across one of your comments, mid-last year or so, where you said, or what we comprehended you said, that you supported the Australian Constitution and the society that is built around that, and that you stand by the laws that uphold that society. "Society" is a Freemasonic/Satanic invention, as is the Australian Constitution, i.e. it is "The System" that is causing the "wanton destruction" (quote) you are deploring on your website. Unless you have retracted that view, you are no different to Robert Arthur Mennard who says he is not "anti-government" but "pro-good government". But govern(men)t of ANY sort, a man-made system of ANY sort can only exist with slaves and rulers, power and control and loss of uniqueness/originality for all those conditioned into being 'system slave cogs". Why would you support that? This is not an attack on the living-sensory MAN you are because we don't know you, don't even know your real name and our only sensory experience of you is a phone call between you and Arthur some years ago.

"The System" is the same system that invaded these lands and decimated the tribes of MAN on the land before introducing the brainwashing of the education system, the legal system, the languages, the medicine, the mathematics and geometry with its commerce, etc, etc, in short, everything of "The System" today. They also brought over captive (deceived/conned/seduced) men and women who had already been brainwashed into "The System" to completely take over this land, which they have done very successfully. This is all Freemasonic/Satanic engineering, as is the Con-stitution, the govern-men-t, all the things you support. You are revealing facts about the darkside of "The System" but you seem to want to replace it with another version of "The System" which is only there to continue the enslavement of all the descendants of captured ancestors.You don't appear to have a remedy to get us out of this mess and you are promoting a document that doesn't have a remedy either (freedom, truth, etc...as above). We cover the ground of this in the videos we have been posting since at last October 2011. Do you homework and see if you can find fault in what we are saying in the remedy that we are sharing to fix all these problems that you expose on your website. If you can find fault, we are happy to hear how and why because we are always keen to improve anything that needs it.

Arthur & Fiona Cristian

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Max Igan

There is no way that I have time to read all that waffle Arthur, reduce it to a simple paragraph and Im all yours... but suffice to say that the more I look into the oppt the more I see clear remedy that has already been established, the type of remedy that will actually allow people to build kindomains unfettered by commerce.... In fact the majority of people I see who are apposed to it, seem those who are attempting to sell freedom to the masses and who may be in danger of losing their revenue streams... Ive even shown it to a local Judge who is a friend of the property owner and he said it is the real deal... As I said anyway, the oppt is already in place, the choice as to whether people wish to use it or whether they wish to continue in the slavery system is theirs alone to make. Im not attacking anyone here I just trust my intuition and yes, when I spoke to Arthur in Febuary 2010 he told me that he met Anastasia, when I asked how, he said she came to australia to visit him and I have felt uneasy about engagement with him ever since... I can probably even dig up the audio file of the conversation if I look. Take care and I wish you well.

Sunday at 22:44

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Arthur Cristian

So the FORCE of "The System" is going to look at this piece of paper and walk away and those behind "The System" will say, "OK, our time's up, over to you guys, here's your freedom"? After the mega-millions they have massacred, after Hiroshima and Nagasaki, after the 1st and 2nd World Wars and all the other wars and genocides, and all the chemical, poison and microwave attacks, and after all the rape, pillage and plunder, they are going to suddenly stop and stand aside, giving up all their privileges, exclusivity, power and control and everything their ancestors strived for. The list can obviously go on and on and on. And they will leave everyone involved alone. We don't know how many times we have been shown or told about paperwork that is said to be the real deal, that has been endorsed by a legal figure (in your case, a local judge), and filed or whatever and yet we see no changes around us, no freedom, no paradise. Paperwork will never give us freedom - only we will set our lives free through our thoughts, feelings, and actions. Which means withdraw, withdraw, withdraw and SUPPORT each other.

If you can't be bothered to read what we say, when all we have done is address your points and set things out clearly, then why enter into discussion with us in the first place? You have started a discussion with us but you are not willing to really explore the issues at hand or face the questions asked. If we all operate with such closed doors, we will never learn from each other and never be able to truly scrutinise what we think and feel. And feel free to dig out the audio file. We have nothing to hide. Did Arthur say Anastasia came physically by plane, by ship, by train, by car, by bicycle? Again, why the emphasis on this when it has very little to do with our work? Are you trying to start a controversy where there isn't one? All the best, Max - Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life

Sunday at 22:44

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Max Igan - wow, you really just dont get it at all do you.... get out of that left brain brother, theres a whole other side of reality your missing... take care.

Sunday at 22:55

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Arthur Cristian

What, the dark-side of non-sense? Back your claims Max. You can't be bothered to engage with us to find out what we really think and feel so, unless you have been studying all our work and comprehending it, how do you know what we know or don't know and sense? By the way you are/have been talking/writing to both of us, Fiona and Arthur. Also, bring forward "left", the first party, to back your claim.

Sunday at 22:55

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Gary Carlyle Cook

whats your problem with it. in one sentence?

23 hours ago

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Jeremy Spencer

The link to the discussion with Max Igan: https://www.facebook.com/mai.k.hartvagzimbleman/posts/444883058914689
This link doesn't work, 'page not found'. Why are you posting all this?

22 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

Gary, use your brain/senses, scrutinise ALL information shared all-around. Belief is not evidence of fact, instead it is fantasy, illusion and delusion. If the OPPT was working then it suits the FORCE behind "The System" and their long-term agenda. If FORCE was moving aside it's because they were INSTRUCTED to do so. WHO IS THIS POWER THAT CAN CAUSE THIS TO HAPPEN? Whose "law" is it? Whose Courts"? Whose Barristers? Whose Judges? Whose Lawyers? Whose Government? Whose Politicians? Whose languages? Whose Commerce"? Whose Copyright Of "Intellectual Property"? Whose His-Story? Whose Police FORCE? Whose Armies, Navies, etc? Whose Civilisation? Whose Nations? Whose Money? Whose Banks? Whose "SYSTEM"? Whose Religions? etc etc etc etc etc etc...... WHO ARE THEY ALL ANSWERABLE TO? WHO IS THEIR MASTER? Remember, All Men Are Equal. No MAN Is Master Of Another MAN.

Max Igan said this

"Actually Arthur, Ive looked at it and it would appear that it is indeed a remedy and not only that but its already signed and sealed. Theres nothing to sign up for, no movement to join and nothing you need to do. All it means is that people now have two options. One is to stand in your power, free and answerable only to the creator, the other is continue participating in the slavery system. The choice is up to the individual."

and then he said this:

"if you look at the oppt, it doesnt claim to represent anyone. It simply offers them a way out via the methodology I previously explained. The choice of whether to take it or to remain part of the slavery system is their own."

and he said this earlier in the discussion:

"Well Arthur, in regard to Mankind, and our little place in the universe, ultimately the system itself, the UCC and everything about it is fiction as, in reality, all there really is, is the creator, us, the earth and the creatures it's ecosystems supports, everything else is fiction - we made the whole thing up... and Ive been standing in that one truth for quite some time. But for those who are locked into left brain and who will only ever feel free if they see it on paper, this appears very much to be remedy as it frees man using the same system that has been used to enslave them, and by the use of its very own rulebook to do so, because in this world, everything that is man made fiction, every business, every bank, every country, every state and every corporate entity comes under the UCC. And if this filing is seen to be invalid then so is the UCC and so is the system. Im still looking into it but at the moment, I cant find a flaw in the logic or in the filing. ..."

and then he said this earlier too:

"but suffice to say that the more I look into the oppt the more I see clear remedy that has already been established, the type of remedy that will actually allow people to build kindomains unfettered by commerce.... In fact the majority of people I see who are apposed to it, seem those who are attempting to sell freedom to the masses and who may be in danger of losing their revenue streams... Ive even shown it to a local Judge who is a friend of the property owner and he said it is the real deal... As I said anyway, the oppt is already in place, the choice as to whether people wish to use it or whether they wish to continue in the slavery system is theirs alone to make."

Can you sense/see the contradiction?

AND

Who is this creator that Max is referring to?

Whose "ONEness" is he referring to?

ALL FORMS OF MONOTHEISM ARE AT THE CORE OF SATANIC/PAGAN/FREEMASONIC "PRACTICES"!

Anyone who gets sucked into this scam is seriously being misled.

What happened to FREE-WILL?

WHO IS MAX IGAN'S MASTER (CREATOR) HE IS REFERRING TO?

All Satanists/Pagans/Freemasons worship ONE CREATOR and that ONE creator is the Grand Architect of "The System", the founding father of "The System" and the father of all the Freemasons/Founding-Fathers of America, Australia, etc...... This nutter they are worshiping is known as Zeus, Ahriman, Moloch, Baal, Satan, Odin, etc, etc....

The number one is finite, it has a beginning and an end. This tells you everything about their lies. They are ALL LIARS.

We can tell you all now that none of them can bring forward this creator, 1st party to 1st party, to back their claims and if they ever tried to do so they can ONLY bring forward a MAN re-presenting this power, regardless if genetic-manipulation was involved or not, turning them into something more than MAN. If they ever try this bullshit then we will be asking this POWER to move that mountain range from here to over there...etc.

22 hours ago

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Brett Anderson

Max Igan's rhetoric always sounds good but his remedy always leads back into the system. I dropped him a year or two ago when he started promoting Ron Paul, I just can't fathom how anyone else could fall for that shit but there he is, all over it.

22 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

Hi Brett and others. Have just edited the last of our posts above, have included more info. .

22 hours ago

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Rohan Murch

I think I get what Arthur is trying to say, I think. That the UCC system itself is still the core of the OPPT procedure and therefore "the system" is still involved or in control.

I can understand some people concerned about that link. This is the way I see it from what i can gather, the UCC is just a tool, 'their' tool, and the UCC has absolutely no power or authority over me and it is not replacing government. This is just basically using their system and their ways against them, using the same system that has been at the core of our enslavery and throwing a spanner in the works, so to speak.

To put it Arthur's way, the UCC filings are still non-sense to to our reality, but to the elites its the core of their system. We are not staying in their system, just signing off with some paperwork to complete their paper-trail, and now we're all going outside to play in the sun.

22 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

How can any MAN play freely in the sun when there are millions of us still claiming ownership over land, etc???? To claim ownership is to have a "System" to protect that claim and therefore we are back to square one again trapped in "The System".

22 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

Have included more info in the larger post above Brett's. We may include a bit more. We are just reading it over again.

22 hours ago

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Ian Schofield

in my opinion oppt provides the final move in the chess game, simply by using the system to change the rules governing a piece of it so that it can move unburdened by restrictions placed on it by the system....people are free to choose to continue to play if they wish but the game is over as far as the rulebook is concerned

22 hours ago

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Rohan Murch

There are millions who are yet to learn what the OPPT UCC filings have done, it may take many months for the full ramifications to rise to the surface.

We are still a common law jurisdiction, so there is a system still protecting us all and providing us remedy and redress. There will always be something one could point at and call "the system", but if it is working for and by us, and not against us, then it is not "the system" of old.

If you think about it Arthur, no matter what outcome we as a peoples reach, there will always be someone who can describe it as "coming to together as one" or something along those lines, oneness. If your idea of kindoms came to reality and someone described it as "we are all one" would it be fair to say kindoms are part of the new world order and are the old system etc etc. of course not!

"System" is a rather generic term and could easily be used to explain your idea of kindoms, or my idea of individuals freedoms and responsibilities and nothing higher but God, people could call that a system.

To be frank Arthur I feel sometimes you use the word "system" to loosely. I feel that "the system" only refers to a machine that has been designed to deceive and control us and make us believe we are free, "the system" in my mind is a well designed social engineering tool that may suck wealth or other nasties but at its core it is dominating and deceiving and dehumanising.

If we dont apply the definition of "the system" strictly, then we would be running around calling everything "the system" without due diligence and we would all end up living in dark caves hiding from everything thats "the system". One could call nature and the universal laws of physics a "system", and on a technical point they would be correct, but it is not part of "the system" we are working to bring down.

22 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

There is a vast difference between SENSE and NON-SENSE. If you haven't put the effort in to learn how this applies you will continue being trapped by NON-SENSE believing it is SENSE (truth), etc.

22 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

In whose image are you performing/re-presenting the OPPT or the UCC????? Are they unique/original thoughts you have created or are they implants of "brain-control"? Who is benefiting out of this long-term? Refer to the many points we raised with Max Igan. They are all posted in this thread. If you follow the OPPT you are all admitting to being SHEEP following the ONE in front!

22 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

Joe, what is there to hope for when you already have everything? Do you need to jump 10 feet across a room to grab your next breath?

22 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

Rohan, there is a MASSIVE difference between WHOLENESS and ONENESS. Kindom is whole not one = sameness. In whose image do you use your free will????? YOUR LIFE. Do you comprehend what is really going on here???? The UCC is of the TALMUD and what do you think the OPPT is derived from? Who is collecting all the "names", etc, registered to "The System" when filling the OPPT????? What are they going to do with it? There is so much more to all of this.....

21 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

The New World Order is not the current chaos with ALL its harm. The NWO is the remedy to this Freemasonic/Satanic engineered chaos implemented by the "Bad Guys". For "years" we have been warning everyone that the NWO will be ushered in by the "Good Guys" who work together with the "Bad Guys". The NWO is the prophesied "1000 year golden reign". The NWO will come smelling like roses, all debts will be wavered, all wars will be stopped, all chaos ended, etc, etc, etc....

Enter dead-corpse instruments like the OPPT.

Who has the power to STOP all this when billions of men, women and children have no power in "The System" to stop it, they are too busy being the cogs in the wheels of "The System", too distracted. They are ALL relying on someone to act on their behalf? What happened to their free-will. Who is this power that can STOP "The System" machine dead in it's tracks, a dead-corpse fiction that can't create sensory life, that can't walk, talk, think, feel, poo, wee, negotiate, contract, contemplate, etc...

We've written so much about this deception already and have posted videos where we discuss this deception. Again, in whose image are you in? Do you realise you are giving this ONE power the "right" to act on your names behalf to use its ONE-FORCE as it so chooses to do so, no matter what, to clear the way for the entry of their ONE-NWO? How many millions/billions are you agreeing to be murdered in the name of the NWO??? This is all black-magic deception. You are all being deceived. You are complying with them, giving them authority to ACT. The Satanic/Freemasonic agenda needs your permission to ACT, to implement the changes.

Do you really believe that they will provide you with FULL-DISCLOSURE????

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Brett Anderson

A good idea of how the NWO will be ushered in is the Zeitgeist movement and the Venus project, all wrapped up in a pretty bow but underneath it all is a cold and ruthless system just like the last but less obvious.

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Arthur Cristian

Agreed, we have just posted more info in our last post above, Please read it again.

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Rohan Murch

Arthur, I understand you dont mean 'oneness' when you talk about kindoms. I have listen to 4x 90min long interviews with the OPPT team so far and I nave never heard them talk about 'oneness', exactly the opposite, same as you. All of their paperwork and doings have been completely open and transparent. My example was how easy an outsider to your inner workings of kindoms could innocently describe it as "coming together as one to fight the system" or something similar, and then be labelled 'the system'. I think you have jumped onto a similar conclusion with OPPT before you have listened to what they say and read the filing and understood the ramifications and the 'non-oneness' this movement is really about.

Ive been going over OPPT filings and notices with a fine tooth comb, and have found no fault so far. To be honest when I first heard of it I thought it was bullshit, another flavour-of-the-month freeman ucc redemption method etc, but after some serious study I found it to be legit, well so far anyway. Give it the benefit of the doubt for a moment and listen/read what the team have to say.

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Arthur Cristian

The OPPT is a dead-corpse, the UCC is a dead-corpse. All fictions are dead-corpses. "The System" is a dead-corpse and everything of it is dead too, this includes their God (creator) and "oneness".They cannot bring them forward as a sensory first party to back their claims. They can only re-present/act/perform on behalf of the dead-fiction/dead-corpse. All Satanists/Pagans/Freemasons worship the dead? People filing the OPPT are presently dead to sense, they are lost under the spells (images) of non-sense following the dead (one) in-front, The dead are all lining up following the dead out front. All is dead all-around. This clearly tells you, shows you what is really going on.

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Arthur Cristian

Rohan, you just wasted all your real life going over something dead...... Where is the REAL SENSORY MAN in all of this. You are going down the yellow brick road that is a "spell" mate. Where is your SENSE????

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Rohan Murch

Just because I may choose to use a tool, that tool does not define who I am. Fight fire with fire Arthur, yes the system is dead and non-sense, but because I chose to pick up a pen and use it as a sword does not redefine who I am, it just gives the powers that be something they can understand in their own language.

I know as we all do that silly bits of paper do not give us freedom and between us, the earth and the universe the UCC and papers and worthless. I get it I really do. I see this as more of a honourable courtesy to them in their own words and their own laws, saying thanks, but no thanks.

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Rohan Murch

Another way to look at it; yes their world is all fiction, fictional currency fictional government fictional crisis's etc. All they see is fiction and to them its the real world (the power of perspective in one's reality), the OPPT are using fictional tools to get the attention of fictional entities and to communicate with these fiction entities in a language and method they can see and touch and understand. Just to make it perfectly clear and comprehensible to them.

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Arthur Cristian

Using non-sense to deal with non-sense still does not make/create sense. Rohan, we love you lots mate, you are a beautiful soul. We have known you long enough to say this now, and its very clear you are not taking anything of what we are saying/sharing "personally". Good on you for that. All we ask is that you use your senses and with scrutiny work things out to sense/see what is really going on here.

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Arthur Cristian

Rohan, the Bible was ALL transparent yet hardly anyone saw the hidden codes??? Same with the New World Language called "English", it is transparent yet hardly anyone saw the hidden codes. Most of the buildings in cities and suburbs are transparent but very few saw the hidden codes. Can you see the hidden codes in the OPPT, its all transparent? Max Igan appears to be transparent but can you see his hidden agenda?

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Arthur Cristian

@ Jeremy, apologies for not replying sooner, we just saw your post. This link works: The link to the discussion with Max Igan: https://www.facebook.com/mai.k.hartvagzimbleman/posts/444883058914689 - It goes back to the FB wall of Mai Kari Hartvag Zimbleman: https://www.facebook.com/mai.k.hartvagzimbleman - maybe you have to be her FB friend to view this thread. Anyway all of that thread discussion is posted in this thread discussion.

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Ivan Alan Traveler

hmmm, this is a very interesting discussion. Here in the country of California or any other state/country we men and women have the right to declare our allegiance to the government of our choosing. And in doing so choose the jurisdiction and law that will be applied. Now, most do not know that the form of government in the U.S. is not the original and that it was installed by force after the civil war.

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Arthur Cristian

@ Rohan; Using the tools of "The System" does define us as still being lost; if we weren't we would know how to do what we need to do without using the prosthetics of "The System". We are all compromised and our compromises mean that we still accept and support "The System" because we are still using their money, their roads, their computers, their pens, etc. Just by using their money, we are accepting the WHOLE of "The System" because we are complying. You put your toe into the ocean, you are touching the whole of the ocean.

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Ivan Alan Traveler

paper is how they birth us and paper may free us... but first you have to know you are free and that everything you do is freeing! as long as what you do is harmless.

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Terry Wrist

Hi and respect to all working towards remedy and freedom. I am a Freeman and have been active with the WFS. I am also in NZ. Does UCC come into effect because of the registered company at the SEC in America? Because I cannot find any reference of UCC here in any legislation or codes here in NZ. Not that they don't exist, I just haven't found it.
Re OPPT etc, I am still researching and absorbing the info. A lot resonates with me, but then again, as much doesn't.

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Arthur Cristian

@Rohan; So we have signed off from "The System" and we are going out to play in the sun. So you are no longer renting or paying off a mortgage? You now have an independent source of water, food and power? You are now living free from the obligations of "The System"? Sounds great - please let us know where this is happening so that we can come and join the fun! And how about all those who don't know about the OPPT and are still struggling in "The System", still being victims of abuse, etc. Are we going to keep worrying about them while we are playing in the sun? What about all the people, hundreds of millions, who have been devastated by the rape, pillage and plunder machines of "The System" one way or another? Do they get their homes back, land, etc. Many of them are older people who can't start all over again.

How is the OPPT taking responsibility to clean up the mess we have ALL created? What happens to all the private corporations that now own the land that was once home to over 500,000 farming families and control all the food supplies and all the services that come into your life? Are they all going to stop now and go and play in the sun too? Does being in the OPPT mean that we can continue being self-centred because we have got "our" freedom when others haven't. The OPPT is OF "The System" and FOR "The System".

As we said to Max Igan last night this is not the first "amazing" document that we have come across that is supposed to be changing everything, giving us our freedom. We are still waiting for them all to take effect. So far there has been no sign of any change. Now we are back in supposed common law jurisdiction, still in "The System", where harm/lies continue to spread. Now we are in a world where the OPPT have filed their papers. Wait a minute......., hang on a bit more....................... gives it another day or so..... still nothing happening. Just a piece of paper sitting in a file somewhere. Sounds like a great stalling tactic - those holding their breath for the OPPT document to take effect are kept busy while those behind "The System" keep the wheels of their machine turning.

Who benefits?

And who benefits when it is all thrown back in their faces and we are given the message that there is nothing that can be done, as has happened on so many occasions, causing the faint hearted to give up and the lion hearted to delve further into "The System" to look for a remedy to "The System". As we have said many, many, many times before, we are the only ones who can free our lives from "The System" and the only way to do that is to withdraw, withdraw as much as we can, bit by bit, until there is no more of "The System" in our lives. Hence The Steps Of Kindom remedy.

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Arthur Cristian

Processing and Filing paper-work is a dead process. By processing and filing paper like the OPPT you are admitting to be of and for the dead world. You have further forged your bonds with HELL, "The System". With your life you are giving FORCE the power with your life and the rights with your life to execute their administrative will upon all their subjects....... note: "English" is a subject! If you are serious about withdrawing from Hell then do what Arthur did, stop renting/using the administrators copyrighted "Intellectual Property" which you do when you dabble your toes in to the ocean of "The System". Once you use the "drivers license", "car rego", "medicare", "credit card", "bank accounts", etc, you are claimed by hell and are bonded. Copy/pasted from another post last week:

The BOND IS the encapsulation of a CURSE! Those in the know DO NOT HANDLE MONEY because money is the current(cy) where the vessel, the curse, the cursed, is sailing (being processed) over the seas (sees) of commerce/finance, "The System", by ALL the captured sinners enslaved to this Freemasonic/Satanic BOND. Nothing else is going on. This is how the duped are giving their real sensory lives away, destroying who they really are and what they are really part of for a fantasy and an illusion. They are forgetting who they really are and what they are really part of.

All bounded by/to this bond, encapsulated by the "Name" (the intellectual property, the shadow/reflection of the living-sensory song of MAN they are re-presenting) ARE COMMITTING SPIRITUAL SUICIDE. Presently, they are ALL too distracted to sense it. Greed and selfishness blind them as does self-centeredness and the setting into motion of all other negative-destructive emotions (shadows) like arrogance, ignorance, fear, loneliness, distrust, emptiness, directionless, power and control trips, illusion, delusion, fantasy, lies, etc, etc.

All the prisoners (the sinners/cursed) to this bond bear the effects/imprints/signs of this darkness (negative-destructive emotions = non-sense) and they are setting these non-sense images (shadows) into motion. Anyone involved/engaged/contracted with/to money in ALL its forms (barter, gold standard, fiat, promissory notes, coins, cashless or not... etc...) are the cursed in the act of committing spiritual suicide. Their allegiance is with/to the Grand Master/Architect of "The System" now presently known as/identified as Satan, their God, a fallen MAN. They are bleeding the sensory waters of Life from their presence (image) of Life so that it is no longer present with the presence of Life. They worship the shadows of darkness and while they serve darkness they are spreading darkness (shadows) all-around, destroying sensory life all around them starting with MAN (who they really are).

The Cesti Que Trust is YOUR DEATH CERTIFICATE, your bond/allegiance to darkness/non-sense. Will they wake up before it is too late? Watch the latest series of videos we've been posting "Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath).

Miki Verse said here: https://www.facebook.com/saoirse.nabas/posts/10152551306410541 - "It isn't your trust Lisa, you didn't create it, you don't maintain it, it isn't in your NAME and if you can not accept a benefit/privilege without accepting the corresponding liabilities."

We replied to Miki Verse: The moment you are renting it which you do with anything re-presenting the "name" (drivers license, birth certificate, credit card, bank account, gas, electricity, telephone, internet, rates, taxes, mortgage, etc) you are bonded...... IT IS NOW YOURS....... YOU CLAIMED IT! It is now you're trust, you trust the fiction to perform on your "names" behalf, meaning you trust the cogs in the wheels of "The System" progress to perform on your behalf so that you can benefit from them (slaves, rulers, labourers, administrators, journalists, politicians, lawyers, judges, academics, professors, clerks, etc, etc.......)."

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REPEAT (and notice the word TRUST in OPPT): " IT! It is now you're trust, you trust the fiction to perform on your "names" behalf, meaning you trust the cogs in the wheels of "The System" progress to perform on your behalf so that you can benefit from them (slaves, rulers, labourers, administrators, journalists, politicians, lawyers, judges, academics, professors, clerks, etc, etc.......)."

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Arthur Cristian

Max Igan posted this (on the other thread): http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwakeup-world.com%2F2013%2F0...

One People’s Public Trust Lawfully Forecloses Corporations, Banks and Governments for Operating Slavery and Private Money Systems - 17 February 2013

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Arthur Cristian

What we also suspect is going on here with the OPPT is an attempt to deflect a massive curse bouncing back at the makers because, with the ushering in of the NWO, they need a way to maintain their power and control over what remains of the dream of life that is MAN. Their system of currency is the currency of curses being processed and with the NWO coming in, they need a way to process the massive curse of all the money (curses) being extinguished and to try and nullify the fallback of all the harm that has been caused. Is this just a large-scale Satanic ritual? The whole of "The System" is based on occults and esoterics, superstitions and rituals and black-magic.

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Brent Renouf

You just can't please everyone all the time!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8X8SFa3nNw&list=LLJoLKgA6rQ_a_qjj56e1y2A
Heather Jarraf-Tucci talks to Freedom Central about The One Peoples' Public Trust
This is a recorded interview with Heather Jarraf-Tucci, a pivitol soul in the formation of the One Peoples' Public Trust.

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Ian Schofield

then likewise, oppt uses 'the system' to get out of 'the system'

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Arthur Cristian

Lets see the evidence of this Ian. While we are co-creating and expanding SENSORY-LIFE all-around in PRESENT-SENSE that is "The Steps Of Kindom" we, the living with LIFE are also forcing the makers of curses and all their loved ones, beneficiaries etc, to process them exclusively with no way out, with no respite They are forced to take full-responsibility for every image they are setting into motion.

The dead cannot deal with the living, only the living can deal with the living-dead. The dead cannot do anything for the living. If the sensory information of LIFE is not amplified, not set into motion in present-sense, all the duped lost to worshiping darkness/non-sense, will continue setting more non-sense images of darkness (where there is no LIFE) into motion, needing "the system" of anti-life-force (the vacuum of life) to execute the will of those lost to non-sense.

Where are the practical steps of the OPPT?

Truth is in present sense. Lies are not in present sense - we cannot sense them, only re-present them through our lives, which means we set them (darkness/non.sense) into motion, spreading even more darkness that is harm. The OPPT is not in present sense and nothing about it is in present sense. It has no power, no force of life.

We have more to post about all this later but there is a huge Satanic deception going on here and many are falling for it.

With the OPPT, we don't see where harm ends and paradise begins.

The OPPT has no life and cannot provide life with life. All it can do is suck your life energy into darkness where nothing happens, where there is no life being set into motion, and all you are doing is still exhausting your life energy to feed the dead world, the very cage of your making that you want to break out of.

The OPPT does not exist in present sense to create life in present sense.

The OPPT cannot make the sunshine, or create gardens or re-forest the desolate lands or heal all the harm caused to MAN and Earth. Only we/MAN, of the living can do that which is why we put LIFE-energy into our gardens and encourage our brothers and sisters to create life in their gardens. Doing this we are all spreading life together all around us rather than spreading more lifeless non-sense darkness that is the OPPT where none of the Life-energy being expended on it is creating any life in present sense, spreading all around.

The OPPT is NOT a remedy.

Why are we going to something that has no life to get life? Freedom is of life, peace is of life as are truth, joy, abundance, etc. Isn't it obvious that all our waking lives should be all about focusing on life? Can't you see that we are in the mess we are in because we have been focusing on anti-life (non-sense-darkness) and spreading it all around us?

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Arthur I appreciate your diligence but personally I see no problem with making the fillings. And no it is not all their courts etc etc. They co-opted the system. They didnt invent it.

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Arthur Cristian

This video clearly reveals how the shadow world is used to deceive the living into giving up their life http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdOag66v7uo
The "Name" Is The Mark Of The Beast The Strawman
Identifying Your Slave Status In "The System"

By Arthur Cristian - Love For Life - www.loveforlife.com.au
5th February 2012 - 56 Minutes 25 Seconds

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Ian Schofield

poetry is written on paper, love letters are written on paper, socrates wrote on paper, am i to believe all of this is non life? i think you are blinded by the love of your own thought processes arthur.....you may have touched upon source, i myself have touched upon source, you clearly have also read the bible, i have also read the bible.....yet our interpretations are quite different....i am quite aware of the 'code' as you call it within the bible, i refer to it as the hidden truth within the bible, not coded but swamped by non truth so that the truth is hard to discern....And he said, Woe unto you also, ye lawyers! for ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers.....oppt releases men from under the burden, yet sensing a cow as opposed to non sensing a cow releases nobody......

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Arthur Cristian

No offence to the living MAN that you are Gary but we are not dealing with "persons" (personally) here. All you have is BELIEF...... that's it. Presently, it seems that you are confused/miss-guided as to who is behind the inventions of non-sense images. If you did you would not be posting comments like this "They co-opted the system. They didn't invent it."

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Ian Schofield

oppt also refers to BE'ing and DO'ing, to be and to do is to live and to sense

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Ian Schofield

do not judge me arthur.

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Annie Janet Elias

Whoa! Interesting thread! More like reading a book! Just wanted to pop in and say thanks to everyone. I've been doing a lot of research about OPPT and my bullshit detectors gone off quite a few times. I WANT to believe it's all true, but my gut tells me its all another ruse to calm the "awake" while they finalize their nwo agenda. Your "they are laughing their heads off sitting in their comfy leather couches spitting cognac intro the fire" really hit home too! Have to sleep on this!

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Arthur. I am saying that because it is a fact. Prove your claim?

That they didnt co-opt the concept of all money, statute laws and courts. And in fact invented it all themselves?

That is a bold claim I doubt you have any evidence for.

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Arthur Cristian

The love letters and the poetry are the inspirations of the living MAN. The paper and pens do not write the poetry. And frankly, most poems and love songs are completely within "The System" for "The System" because they are written by men and women brainwashed and hardwired to "The System". Socrates particularly. We are not judging you Ian, just scrutinising what you say, as we invite you to scrutinise what we say because this is how we all learn.

With the OPPT, belief is all you have on offer and this is not the basis of truth. Just "one" tiny lie mixed in with a lot of truth will destroy all truth down the line. Pure and sincere white will no longer be pure and sincere when a tiny bit of black/grey is mixed into it. It has become corrupted. Just one tiny lie that is a crack in a massive wall holding back an ocean of lies will provide access for liars to gradually wear away the crack permitting more lies and liars to pass through until the hole grows so big it causes the whole wall of "community immunity" to collapse. Now everyone is flooded with images of lies and they don't know anything else. We have just described the Bible for you.

If there was un-corrupted truth, you would think by now through word of mouth across the generations we would all be living in Paradise, BUT we are not. WHY IS THAT? So much for ALL the holy books, "systems" education, occults, esoterics, new age, etc, that have come and gone out of our ancestors lives and through our lives too. Love For Life videos, articles and many debates/discussions are there for you to explore the difference between sense and non-sense.

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Ian Schofield

yin and yang arthur, it forms the basis of ALL creation, without dark one cannot differentiate light as there is nothing to compare it with. a battery cannot power a device with just a positve terminal, a magnet generates no force with just one pole.

there never will be an existence of only pure white.

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Peter J Kuehlen

"There's nothing to sign up for, no movement to join and nothing you need to do."

~ Max Igan

Isn't that what the system says?

Don't worry! All is well. Stay at home!

Maybe its just another way to keep the status-quo?

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Peter. Because freedom is naturally gifted to us by the creator. What ever you want to call your creator. We dont have to fight for it. People have to fight to take it from us.

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Peter J Kuehlen

They already did take it from us long ago.

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Only if you believe that. Im quite sure they would like to take this gold watch of my wrist, yet its still there. We still have freedom. More because of OPPT-IN now.

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Arthur Cristian

Agreed Gary, As for backing our claims, this has all been covered in the Love For Life videos and articles etc. Do your homework. This ground has been covered by us since March 2005 onwards. Simply its ALL about re-presenting (renting) "Intellectual Property" that is copyrighted. Enjoy the videos, articles., etc. Also, "the creator" can imply that the creator is apart from us as of a distance imagined by time and space which are freemasonic/satanic inventions. Watch out for duality images that are non-sense. This is how we get tricked into giving up our lives to perform in a fantasy Wonderland as Alice amongst many non-sense characters..e.g.... "The Thought Of The Creator Is Not The Creator".

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Gary Carlyle Cook

I created myself. We all have our own beliefs. But beliefs are just opinions.

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Ian Schofield

sorry arthur.....but i must strenuously disagree that 'Just "one" tiny lie mixed in with a lot of truth will destroy all truth down the line'

that is pure cock and bull, the truth can never be destroyed, or did you not actually read your bible?

'For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither anything hid, that shall not be known and come to light.'

if one tiny lie can destroy truth then truth would have died an agonising final death a long long time ago, never to be heard of again

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Arthur Cristian

Gary. We (Fiona/Arthur) have NO Beliefs. Do your homework and you might learn why. Briefly, Beliefs are images without the presence of life embodied, therefore are unable to be present with the presence of life. Belief is like a cat chasing its tail without ever catching it. To believe is to be lost in a Spell that is a vortex of no life. You are throwing your life out the window, There is no original/unique thought here.

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Exactly so why not believe that people have created OPPT-IN with a pure heart. I see no issues with it. If you have any feel free to explain but I dont see that you have so far. With all due respect.

I know UCC is an elitists thing but OPPT-IN acknowledged that. Its irrelevant really.

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Arthur Cristian

@ Ian; The only reason that truth is still available to us is because of those who have always remembered truth and have kept that truth alive. Truth is set into motion in the water that we breath that we sense through our senses. Recent Love For Life videos explain this. An analogy/metaphor.... If we all believe in the Bible and we keep reproducing the Bible by chopping down more and more trees to make more and more Bibles until there are no trees left across Earth any more, just lots and lots of Bibles. Where would we be then?

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Peter J Kuehlen

Due to rising CO2 levels we have now more trees then ever and there will never be a lack of paper. We don't reproduce the bible by printing, but we reproduce Jesus by following and keeping his commandments.

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Arthur Cristian

@ Gary, We have explained it all in great detail, read over this thread and watch some of the Love For Life articles/videos. How can something DEAD like the OPPT contain the life of our pure and sincere intentions???? A sensory plant can, even a dog or bird but what about something completely void of life like the OPPT????? Remember, we/MAN are the ONLY ones who can set thoughts into motion. All thoughts are images. If we are creating something dead it is something dead (anti-life) we are setting into motion which makes us slaves to it. The dead can't create sensory life and needs the living who are dumbed down performing everything for the dead-corpse. The videos and articles cover this ground as well.

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Its not DEAD. It simply is not alive. Plenty of things are like that. The PC you are using for example is a tool. OPPT-IN is a tool too.

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Gary Carlyle Cook

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Arthur Cristian

Gary.... you are lost in BELIEF mate.....

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Arthur Cristian

We have to leave this chat but will be back later...... children, children, children....

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Peter J Kuehlen

Patronizing much?

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Ian Schofield

clearly overly enamoured of his own way of being

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Michelle Kenny

Max Egan showed his true colours when he pushed RON PAUL and when he worked with that criminal donation thief Ken O'keefe, Egan is a controlled puppet, he's less obvious than the Alex Jones and David Ickes , anything he pushes is of the old system I'd bet my last dollar on it.

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Its not a belief bro that OPPT-IN was never alive to become dead. Its a tool to inform people that they are personally responsible for unlawful actions. Regardless of whether they are paid to do so or not. Or would you rather we just left UCC the way it used to be?

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Ian Schofield

thats called paranoia mate, max talks about the system being crook, but he didnt rule out that a human could operate within the system to bring it down.....i believe in max's message, i also believed in the hope that ron paul represented, that doesnt make either me or max a control puppet, you appear to be loaded down with many buzzwords but arent using much grey matter to recognise yourself as being a controlled puppet you puppet

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Peter J Kuehlen

Ron Paul is a Mason. How can anybody put his hope into a Mason?

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Ian Schofield

lol.....the police is a corrupt organisation, does that mean all officers are corrupt people? no

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Peter J Kuehlen

Oh, so Paul is a good mason? - LOL

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Peter J Kuehlen

Never mind. Keep your idols dear if you will.

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Ian Schofield

i know a few inherently good masons.....i think you will find that most of your 'bad masons' are skull and bones

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Gary Carlyle Cook

i know masons too. not all masons are bad people. some are great people. i dont trust ron paul either but he would of been better than obama surely. not that its more than a void corporation.

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Ian Schofield

peter, out of the whole lot of the dirty dodgy bastards ron paul sounded like a breath of fresh air, if he WAS one of the bad guys then how come he isnt prez now then? why did they bother squeezing him out of the televised conferences if he was one of 'the mob' huh?
your arguments dont figure when lifted up to the scrutiny of logic

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Peter J Kuehlen

Trusting politicians is foolishness. They are all actors, acting on behalf of their agency. I have no arguments other then telling you that it is foolishness to put your trust in any man. The question is not weather Paul is good or bad? the question is: is he a politician? Paul stopped, because he was told to stop. He did his job just like all the other actors.

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Peter J Kuehlen

Max Igan is acting on behalf of an agency. We all do. I am acting on behalf of an agency as well. As a believer I am acting on behalf of God to the extend that I understand him. Nobody is independent. We are all acting on behalf of our belief system. I told you what my belief is. I follow Jesus and I believe that he is the solution to all of our problems.

14 hours ago

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Peter J Kuehlen

According to my belief all other people who offer a solution apart from Jesus are either deceived or lying.

14 hours ago

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Gary Carlyle Cook

What are the two contacts with God in the Bible, Peter?

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Peter J Kuehlen

What do you mean, Gary?

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Peter J Kuehlen

The contract is that I do not own myself, but that God owns me and that he has all the rights to my life and that he is a good father who keeps me safe and provides for me and my family. Out of love to him I keep the commandments of Jesus as good as I can.

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Gary Carlyle Cook

I cant remember it exactly but there are two testaments in the Bible. Contracts with God. One is the ten commandments. the other is a Prime law one. Not to steal, not to instigate violence and not to create other laws. Why there is two I dont know but I think it is safe to say the simpler ones superseded the more complicated ten commandments. Now I might be wrong but thats my understanding anyway.

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Arthur Cristian

"The Thought Of God Is Not God". Bible believers chronically break the first commandment "Though Shall Have No Other Gods Before Me"!

As shared ""The Thought Of God Is Not God"!

14 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

We support DO NO HARM through thoughts, feelings and actions. You need to be using your senses to comprehend this in its entirety so you can be sure of not doing harm.

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Gary Carlyle Cook

And your point is? I thought it was obvious to everyone that the thought of something isnt actually the thing being thought if. Thats like saying the thought of my phone isnt my phone, no?

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Peter J Kuehlen

You can not use the bible to refute the bible. This is called a logical fallacy.

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Arthur Cristian

Agreed, this proves the bible is not the living sound/song (satanists call it word) of living creator (Satanists call it God). Living-Creator is always in PRESENT SENSE, the written word is lost in NON-SENSE.

13 hours ago

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Peter J Kuehlen

Either the bible is right or it is wrong. If it is wrong, like you claim, then you can not use it to prove that it is wrong. - get it?

13 hours ago

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Gary Carlyle Cook

The 'Bible' blatantly contradicts itself so I dont need to even if I wanted to but thats not what I was attempting. I am merely saying that there is nothing wrong with OPPT-IN or Max's opinion on it and I find this attack on him to be rude and self-serving. Almost like people are jealous of his popularity.

PS. the King James Bible isnt THE Bible. Its a remix.

13 hours ago

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Jason Mcauley

so is oppt viable, will you gyus use the courtesy notice?

13 hours ago

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Peter J Kuehlen

After what time do your words become dead after you write them down?

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Arthur Cristian

We have free will don't we? So we don't need to use the bible to prove anything. Watch the Love For Life videos as they will help you immensely comprehend this Satanic engineered deception.

13 hours ago

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Gary Carlyle Cook

So why not just ask people to do that rather than try and use Max's name to get views?

13 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

@ Peter. They are always dead. We are all severely compromised. Remember, we are all the descendants of tribes of MAN who were invaded and decimated and what remained, mainly children, were brainwashed into "The System" of Satan's (a fallen MAN) making. Again, the Love For Life videos explain all this.

13 hours ago

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Peter J Kuehlen

OK, Arthur, I will look into it with an open mind.

13 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

There is no argument from us about the creator existing in present-sense. We need to get our senses/brains working around how we were all deceived by DUALITY, that are shadows, images of our projections. We have fallen into the shadows of our own making. We are prisoners enslaved by NON-SENSE THOUGHTS that are images without life of living-creator embodied.

13 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

@ Gary, This is a thread where Max joined the discussion and we posted it on this FB wall for all to see. We have no interest/intentions in profiting from his name. More than 100 million people have visited the Love For Life website - we are also known by millions across Earth. Gary, presently, you obviously know very little about us, our Love For Life work and the Love For Life website. We have something like 35,000 people sitting in limbo waiting for us to accept their offer of a FB friendship. We maxed out the limit a few years ago. We estimate this 35,000 or so by the volume of requests we received every week.

12 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

@ Ian who said "yin and yang arthur, it forms the basis of ALL creation, without dark one cannot differentiate light as there is nothing to compare it with. a battery cannot power a device with just a positve terminal, a magnet generates no force with just one pole. there never will be an existence of only pure white."

The sun casts no shadow.

When you look at the night sky you still see light, If there was darkness night would be a completely jet black wall of darkness all around without any light.

Ying and yang do not exist either. Batteries are of "The System" based on duality. Its power is finite but living-creator is infinite, is without beginning or end, is not of "time" and "space". Living creator is not a divided house because if it was it could not be! It would have been destroyed the moment it was being created, the light would be instantly swallowed by darkness.

All that exist is LIGHT, that is SENSE/CONSCIOUSNESS Ian.

You are re-presenting "Intellectual Property" that are thoughts/images made up by other men and women which you were trained/conned/brainwashed into re-presenting. When you perform "Intellectual Property" you are having no direct experience with sensory life-forms, inanimate or not. The Love For Life videos, etc, explain all this as well.

Ben Lowrey Interviews Arthur Cristian
Love For Life - 8th February 2012

95 Minutes 28 Seconds

12 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMK7CkU1ih8
The Dream Of Life Part 6 - Under The Spell Of Intellectual Property
Arthur Cristian - 51 Minutes 52 Seconds

12 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ze66_33wxM
Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 8th February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8350
Part One: http://youtu.be/4ze66_33wxM - 70 Minutes 5 Seconds

Part Two: http://youtu.be/43gIi-sjxJc - 81 Minutes 13 Seconds

Part Three : http://youtu.be/oooY6W63K-M - 70 Minutes 18 Seconds

Part Four: coming

12 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdOag66v7uo
The "Name" Is The Mark Of The Beast The Strawman
Identifying Your Slave Status In "The System"

By Arthur Cristian - Love For Life - www.loveforlife.com.au
5th February 2012 - 56 Minutes 25 Seconds

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Brett Anderson

A president has as much say in how the world is run as much as Ronalald McDonald has a say in how McDonalds is run. Anyone thinking of voting to change the world is truly totally ignorant of the real world structure and the real establishment that controls it. Max Igan, if he were genuine or truly clued in would know this and be not steering his 'followers' down the merry old path of false hope. He claimed that Ron Paul would be the only one who would stop war with Iran...really? LOL Just on the basic level, no president is going to upset the Military industrial complex and all its corporate beneficiaries because they are already higher up in the power chain and beyond them are many levels of hidden power again, nothing happens in politics unless it was meant to happen, its a closed system and a puppet show for the ignorant. The agenda rolls on because presidents are selected and groomed long before the election exists, they are place men in a chess game that no one even knows exists. I can't begin to express how totally retarded it is to be blithering about 'presidents' and 'who might be better than another' in office, its nearly as retarded as thinking that jesus is the answer. Surely 2000 years of rape, destruction and mass slaughter must surely prove that your belief in the man in the sky is utter nonsense?! The system is all encompassing, it can not be reasoned with, its very existence ensures man's ignorance of life. Any version of remedy which is submissive to any part of the system is still the system, its a program implanted in your head.

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Arthur Cristian

Brilliant Brett - agreed.

5 hours ago

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Max Igan replying to Arthur & Fiona Cristian from the other thread......

Max Igan

you just dont get it do you... well the choice is yours brother, its all done if you would like to be free. No forms to fill out, no movement to join, no documents to file, just a choice, love and freedom, or fear and slavery its all up to you. My suggestion is to break the spell. Get out of that left brain reality, and let it sink in ...Or you can choose remain in the slavery system if you like... your choice ...but the one thing to clearly understand, is that via its own mechanism, the system no longer exist, its just up to those who are truly awake, to inform those who still believe it does, of the real truth of the matter.... Clear your mind, put away the meme and break that spell brother.... you are free.... if you want it.

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Ff...

OPPT - The End of Financial Tyranny
Host Santos Bonacci conducts a discussion with guests about the One Peoples Public Trust

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Arthur Cristian Brett, have you noticed the phonetics here of his pen name: Max I Gan?

Max = Maxing/Amplifying

I - The All Seeing Eye as in "i" which we explained in the videos "Water Is The Life Of Mans Consciousness (Breath)" and "Under The Spell Of Intellectual Property".

Gan = Gain

Maxing Out The Gaining Of "i"

What do you think the duped under the spell of the OPPT are doing?

Notice how Max does the David Icke trick of the "Universe" spell suggesting (of hypnoses) that "we are tiny aspects of the universe at the effect of greater forces than us"???? He does this heaps and heaps and heaps. This "spell" is regularly used in his videos, etc. He wrote this to us in the other thread: "Well Arthur, in regard to Mankind, and our little place in the universe, ultimately the system itself,".

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Brett Anderson

..interesting Arthur, I hadn't picked up on that before.

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Ok King Arthur

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Scarymee Wendy

youre a wanker Arthur, his birth name is Maxwell from our mothers uncle, Igan is Irish for Ian, you have no idea mate, why attack Max? you lose crediblity when you attack ppl that are good. Why are you upset about OPPT? because you didn't figure it out?. We are all in this together mate one planet we can't defeat the beast by in fighting, divide and conquer is that your goal too, maybe you are the big fat lie? Feell very sorry for you mate. This conversation looks to me like a big ad for YOU.. You recommend the UCC on your site have you changed your mind now? I think that you are a big part of the problem. GOODBYE

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Arthur Cristian

We have relatives (long-distance) caught up in the Freemasonic world too. You need to put the work in to learn what we have been learning. English letters are hieroglyphics bearing codes. Many who have sold out end up using Pen Names or Altered Names from their original family names/birth names, etc.

4 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

Earth is NOT a planet. Are you aware of this? Also, the word ONE is a freemasonic code.

4 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

We leave everything up, even when we realise down-the-line we were wrong. We support freedom of speech. As you notice we don't delete anything unless they contain terrible foul language or links to adds.

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Arthur Cristian

Our reply to Max "i" Gain", in the other thread........

Arthur exited "The System" when he gave up renting the "benefits" of "The System". Since 2006 he has gradually given up Medicare, Drivers Licence, Car Rego, Birth Certificate, contracts with ALL private corporations, etc, etc. That process ended some years ago. Yes, he can do it because those around him are still compromised and in "The System" but the power comes from the gift of life that those around him give in present sense, moment by moment. This is how we start the exodus; as the tribe expands, more and more of us can give up ties to "The System", supported by those still caught up in "The System" until we are strong enough and have the infrastructure in place for us all to turn our backs. Of course we are all free - it is who we are in present-sense if we choose to live it in present-sense and we don't need the OPPT to live it in present-sense.

This is what we have been saying for years now.

Do you have to jump 10 feet across a room to grab your next breath? Of course not, in present-sense, we already have everything and more. Why do you need to claim/fight for your freedom when you already have it? Only non-sense images like the OPPT con you into exiting present-sense. The duped already lost to the brainwashing spells of non-sense for a life-time continue getting sucked into more and more non-sense spells. The more we look into this OPPT filing while contemplating, contemplating...... we can see/sense innocent & naive people being used.

Don't forget Satanists/Pagans/Freemasons are masters of planting images into their victims brains via remote projection, remote viewing, remote control and getting their victims to think their "own" brains are coming up with them or at least believe in them so they set them into motion. The OPPT is the combined working of such a scam. We see the OPPT as just another Satanic ritual, black magic at work as those behind "The System" look for another way to deflect the curses of their making. Of course, many of those involved, if not most, are innocent of the bigger picture.

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Max Igan

you gave up the benefits of the system Arthur? Did your wife give them up too or are you simply living off her benefits and getting her and other people to drive you around? and whats with the bullshit you made up around my name. you are fucked up on vactican satanistic bullshit. you are locked in left brain and under the vatican spell brother. Plus you are a liar, you are in danger of losing your revenue stream and you are pissed off about it. End of story... and you just love airing your dirty laundry in public dont you... and you take a chapter to say what could be said in a sentence... damned if I know what anyone would bother to read all this waffle anyway. Ive not been able to give you any credence ever since you told me Anastasia came to visit you in Australia.

2 hours ago

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Max Igan Ive never attacked you ever Arthur, not ever, I simply asked for clarification on your Anatsasia story. But this thread looks like you would like that to change and want to create a bit of in fighting. So OK, even though we are all on the same side and are all finding our way to extricate ourselves from a common enemy, and even though fighting amongst ouselves is a total waste of time and I dont really see the point in perpetuating the divide and conquer paradigm as you seem to want to do. To be honest Im getting tired of the bullshit and constant self promotion at the expense of others that people like you are posting. So if you want to make it personal (as it appears you have every intention of doing on this thread) then Im ok if you want the gloves to come off and some real truths to be posted here...

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Arthur Cristian

Max, the breath of life provides the power of life for this MAN, Arthur Cristian, to use whatever dead fiction is provided for this MAN to communicate sense with those lost to non-sense, to Wonderland, without this MAN being contracted to it. This MAN is in this dead world but not of it. We have free will. The Love For Life writing and videos are there to help those use their brains to break the "spells" of non-sense. That is it's ONLY purpose. You sold out Max and YOU are the liar and deceiver you will be seen for who you really are as the veils of this deception continue to fall away and people are using their senses to sense all the lies and liars amongst them. We have nothing to be concerned about.

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Max Igan

well I'd say all anyone has to do is real this thread to see the falacies of what you just wrote.

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Max Igan

and sold out to what? You are the one selling freedom and workshops to people and using the fear of others to generate a revenue stream. Ive never sold information or empowerment to anyone. I dont even charge people for the workshops and seminars I do... so tell us all about when Anastasia came to visit you Arthur...

2 hours ago

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Brent Renouf

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomreigns/2013/02/19/oppt-in
Oppt-IN - www.blogtalkradio.com
Lisa, Chris and Bob from The Collective Imagination Show, Santos Bonacci, D. from removing the Shackles, Brian and AK from American Kabuki, Lois Tucci, Heathers mum, Heather Tucci.

Listen to internet radio with FreedomReigns on Blog Talk Radio

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Max Igan

lol... we can all do the name bullshit too Arthur... hers one.... oooo have you noticed the hidden meaning in the name folks? Arther is of course = King Arthur.. so he is promoting himself as a ruler and then we have Cristian "crist" = Christ, so he obviously views himself as a messiah and "ian" is derived from the original Irish word "Igan" which as he says himself, must of course mean "I Gain" so this guy obviously believes is is a kingly messiah figure who works to gain from you all ... see, easy isnt it? ... Arthur you are so full of shit in beggars belief. Have a nice day ...

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Arthur Cristian

@ Max, "fallacies", Back your claims Max. We are still waiting. You have still not answered many questions asked of you in this thread yet we have answered all of yours, and even then, you still snipe at us for laying it ALL out clearly with the intention of causing no misunderstanding. Hhmmmmmmmmmmmm

You are clutching at straw now, you are most definitely on the non-sense track. Almost everything you are writing now are lies. Do your homework.

The website is in Fiona's name,

The only workshop was back in 2009 and the proceeds went to Mark & Karen Pytellek and to the caterers and to the venue and others. Some dollars were left over and they were gifted to Love For Life. Arthur worked as a volunteer, as a gift, Arthur was not in commerce for "personal" gain.

Since 2005 we do everything for Love For Life for free without a fee. Arthur has never charged for his time since March 2005 working almost every-day of all this "time, for up 18 hours per day until today. Arthur has gifted everything he does for free without a fee, no contracts/conditions attached.

And yes, people can choose to gift to Love For Life and these gifts (no commerce/business) goes to Fiona's bank account or other Love For Life supporters.

EVERYTHING Arthur accesses in "The System" are not in his "name".... EVERYTHING.

Arthur is completely out of "The System" and has been for years.

There is probably very few of us who have done this, if any.

So are you now attacking Fiona?

Can you please confirm this!

Almost from the beginning of this thread you started subtly trying to undermine (attack) Arthur's character and you have not ceased from doing this. You have shown very little good will. Why is that Max? What is it about Arthur you seek to destroy/discredit? If the Truth is what you say it is why do you need to attack others, make it "personal"? Is not truth apparent and stands the test of "time". What have you got to worry about? And why are you not attacking Fiona, she is an equal team player, fully involved in this thread no less than Arthur?

33 minutes ago

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Arthur Cristian

On the birth certificate it is Athanasious Bouradas. In the early 1980's the trading name, the vessel, was amended to Arthur Cristian. Arthur no longer rents either trading names, this "Intellectual Property" is for the
re-presentatives/administrators of "The System" to do what they like with their
copy-right. All this is explained in the Love For Life videos, they are already embedded in this thread.

12 minutes ago

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Arthur Cristian

And yes, LIFE is CHRIST = SENSE while Anti-CHRIST is Anti-Life = Non-Sense. It is all explained in the Love For Life videos and articles, etc, links provided near the top of this thread. We always provide FULL-DISCLOSURE, that is what the Love For Life website is for, it is a testament of all our Love For Life work in "The System", a trail kept up on the internet to protect us from slander, lies and other nefarious tactics used by re-presentatives of FORCE down-the-line. Arthur is CHRIST as is any MAN who returns to SENSE.

34 minutes ago

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Arthur Cristian

http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8357

Max Igan & The Fraud Of The OPPT (One Peoples Public Trust) - Facebook Discussion With Arthur & Fion

loveforlife.com.au

The One Peoples Public Trust (OPPT); we are saying that it is not a remedy. We have copied a discussion on another thread involving Max Igan, which may continue. If it does, we will keep posting it here as well.

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Robert Petrovski

Yes, in 2009 Mark P received the proceeds of the workshop that was held. I was there attending the workshop. Even at the workshop Arthur was standing firm on his way of life. He gave a brief outline of life and the system outside of the workshop hours.

Tuesday at 15:01

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Arthur Cristian

For all you readers who might have overlooked the link, at the beginning of this discussion is a link "continue reading" where the first of many comments are located" https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/168861396594454

Tuesday at 15:17

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Arthur Cristian

Thanks for coming forward as a witness Robert.

Tuesday at 15:18

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Arthur Cristian

Peter J Kuehlen mentioned you in a comment.

Peter wrote: "Arthur Cristian wrote: "Agreed, this proves the bible is not the living sound/song (satanists call it word) of living creator (Satanists call it God). Living-Creator is always in PRESENT SENSE, the written word is lost in NON-SENSE."

He once said: let there be light and there was light.
As far as I can tell the light is still here.
I have to believe, that his word is still in power."

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Arthur Cristian

The Satanists are lying to you while also telling you the truth at the same time when they said "let there be light and there was light" This implies there once was no light, implying light is finite!

The light they are referring to is "illumined light" shadows/reflections of "intellectual Property" that are WORDS of non-sense Fallen-MAN was/is brainwashed/tricked/seduced/conned/etc into re-presenting.

The Satanists "illumined Light" is also known as the "living word".

But we have never sensed a living word anywhere.... hello a or b or c, please talk to us??? Hello, anyone there??????

You see, their bullshit claim to the living word is NON-SENSE, you can't sense a, b, c.

This is all explained in the Love For Life videos embedded in this thread.

Light is SENSE is Consciousness is the PRESENCE of LIFE of living-creator IN PRESENT-SENSE, embodied in all sensory life-forms, inanimate or not. You can sense horse but you can't sense the word horse. We can sense Living-Creator but we can't sense the words "the creator", etc.

"The Thought Of God Is Not God"

The Freemasons/Satanists have created an "illumined word (world)" for MAN to fall into and this is where everything has gone wrong. This is the only place that we give them power and they are not prepared to give up everything they have worked for over their recorded ages (words). The current version of "The System" is wearing thin, making way for the next version of "The System", hence the OPPT.

The images of non-sense are the hooks that haul us in, following blindly in the wake of the images we worship, the illumined lights of the OPPT and the other illumined images of the NWO blinking at us as we move closer towards them. The OPPT and the NWO are constructed out of "illumined light" which are spells spun on the duped who follow this light, becoming the victims of the "recorded ages", and thus the power and control of the black-magic witches and warlocks continues.

Tuesday at 16:07

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Robert Petrovski

You're living truly as per your words. It's rather difficult to live in the freedom expressed due to the systems dependence

Tuesday at 17:32

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Arthur Cristian

Yep, we are all seriously compromised.......sigh...... But we're getting out.....

Tuesday at 18:04

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Mark Jonas

I wish Arthur & Max could come to a productive agreement - you both are incredible lights of the world

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Arthur Cristian

Hi Mark, the greatest challenge for all of us is coming together as brothers and sisters caring for each other without doing harm to each other and without a 3rd party in-between our relationships, meaning, without the need for any man-made "system". This is where we stand Mark. We refuse to accept any man-made system to continue on meddling in our lives and we go to the grave living for Kindom (Do No Harm Communities). We live for obliterating "The System" in ALL its forms/guises/images/etc. We're talking about pure and sincere love, truth, peace, joy, abundance, etc, here. We have NOTHING else to live for Mark....... NOTHING. We are making another video about the OPPT and how the OPPT process IS a Satanic Ritual, no different to ancient Satanic rituals performed before armies went to war to invade, conquer and destroy another civilisation, only for the oligarchy to create a "New World/Civilisation" ("The System") in their image. All involved on all sides were under the "spell" of non-sense. We're not joking here, take us very seriously. Love & Hugs to you mate. Arthur & Fiona Cristian.

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Mark Jonas

Cheers Arthur, sounds right on. Love to you and the family!

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Simon Penton

I am not here to offend. Just stating my opinion and feedback about what I've read so far.

The idea that everyone around the planet can get a piece of land (1 Hectare for example) and just live off-grid and grow their food is simply not bourne-out by experiences. In Britain (Land of the Covenant) people who try to just live on the land self-sufficiently are usually removed by force. There are a few examples of folk living in certain communities and just about managing to survive by claiming welfare benefits or doing outside work (inevitably paying taxes), but these are very rare. ALL agricultural land in Britain must be used as it is licensed or the people are forcibly removed.

Then we have the issue of climate. In winter in Britain, from my experience as an organic gardener of decades, it is just possible to grow a little food, but certainly not enough to live off. Without investment into polythene and glasshouses, specialist equipment, storage facilities, etc, then growing food through the dark of winter is a fallacy. There isn't any self-sufficiency in Britain, and everyone is reliant upon food storage and distribution, importation and retail outlets. Yes, folk can supplement their food requirements here, but the idea that folk can be self-sufficient in a Cool-Temperate climate (getting colder not warmer) without substantial investment and strong community, still based upon business and taxation, and still be veggie/vegan, is total fantasy for us here! It's not useful to suggest otherwise!

I've read some of the Anastasia series. The wider movement is working in places where land is available and where community building exists strongly already. The sentiment is beautiful and inspiring and the words are healing in themselves, but the Siberian Taiga, Australian outback or other imperial colony (the Native's land anyway) is quite different to the controlled reality of Britain and other 'civilised' countries.

Time after time we see 'communities' being built by strong egos and then controlled by those that have the greatest financial input. As long as land is granted under condition of payment (ie valued per area) then the ego is what is in control. Hence, IMO, the need for a period of transition into the consciousness of not being in any part of the system, by steadily shedding each part of it. Simply dumping the lot and imagining that one can live securely is not the experience of large numbers of people. It's like those who try driving unregistered cars without a license or tax. Every one of them gets stopped and the vehicle taken. Why? Because the current 'system' cannot allow folk to break away yet. So lots of Sovereign types are not even bothering to try deregistering cars etc because they still need to get around and present vital info about not paying taxes, about Commercial Liens, about Trust Law and Fee Schedules, etc.

There are many who have lost their valuable assets because they applied the principles of deregistering but didn't have the Trusts in place to protect themselves. There are others who have been forcibly detained, sectioned, had children taken, and suffered greatly, directly because they tried part of the process without the security of strong Commercial Lien and Trust Law education.

I see and hear the 'word-smiths' and their deductions from their years of study. I see the sense and the nonsense. I see the e-motion in the conclusions that folk have come to. It's easy to feel the truth of one's own experience, but difficult to feel another's. Such is the power of polarisation coming into equilibrium (Pisces into Aquarius)!

The 'Occupy' movement failed dismally. It was infiltrated and destroyed from within. It used the terminiology of aggression and hired lawyers.
But I know some folk trained in law who are doing excellent work, and defending others and their assets from corporate claims. Whistleblowers are coming out weekly now. Folk are discovering integrity!

Unam Sanctum etc. declared ownership of the planet and the people, assets, etc upon it. Someone had to dissolve that fake 'Trust'! It couldn't be rebutted at the time because the Vatican assassinated ANYONE who disagreed with them. And look, the Vatican has controlled the planet ever since! Only now is the facade of 'consent' crumbling!

We've had the on-going UCT and Local CT processes happening for some time, with folk declaring Family and Personal Trusts and securing their assets and bodies of the Beneficiaries. Again, educating about Trust Law and what it signifies.

We've had the Administrative Process route, using Commercial Liens against the corporations to PROVE their Fraud. Again, educating about how to use Trust Law and why.

The OPPT may or may not be the solution on a local level, and maybe that is because, for some reason 'Universal' Commercial Code is not 'Universal'?

It appears that one way to look at the process is as a useful transition from one state of consciousness to another. The proof of efficacy of the method is to be seen by each and every participant. The idea that 'all the work as been done' is disinfo and not what the documentation says. In a similar way, folk in local CTs are still having to apply the methods and Admin Process to those corporations that make claims. The principle of establishing Personal Liability of every individual in each corporation is a sound process. Arguing with them about principles has never worked - in the current paradigm, what has worked is a Commercial Administrative Process that establishes their fraud. It works - I've tried it many times!

The principle of the equal distribution of the 'assets' of each and every Beneficiary of the Planetary Trust is a sound principle. It is a part of the principles behind the St Germain Trust and the NESARA process. All are 'processes' and not necessarily the expected ultimate result.

The principles of getting to grips with the 'Patrimony' process of using the Beneficiary's assets (including bodies) as collateral and therefore for the repayment of debts of bankrupt corporations, has been very important for many folk, as surely has been the knowledge of registration, 'bonds', sales of mortgage and other speculative instruments, promissory notes, etc etc

Right now the Idle No More movement is picking up speed but being misdirected into protest about climate or resources, and doing more ceremonies to bring the 'magic' into the process. The magic isn't working without the withholding of taxes, administrative process, principles of Trust Law, ending payments to banks, shifting to ethical and sustainable, etc, because as long as there is compliance with and support for the criminal corporations then the crimes continue. And yet the First Nations folk have loads of legal precedent and power from the treaties that are the prerequisite to the colonies existing at all! Affidavits and Admin Process would go a long way to make a difference!

Repeatedly, the polarisation is manifesting. Yet the solutions are in both 'sides'!

IMO, knowing that FB is being monitored and groups infiltrated to dismantle, means that cross-reference and personal study is still most important!

Wednesday at 03:32

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Max Igan

Its interesting to see how this all actually works and I'll explain why the OPPT just "feels" right to me... Basically, as you may have heard me speak of, the entire system we are/were under is essentially a vatican construct and is the result of the Unum Sanctum Trust filed in 1302 by Pope Boniface (and the following Ceste Que Ve trusts filed beneath it). Currently the corporations are under the UCC and, through sleight of hand, the people are/were placed under the corporations. What the OPPT has done is trump the Vatican Trust by stepping above it and placing everyone who "is" ...everyone alive... every one who is BE'ing..., above the UCC and therefore answerable only to the creator.

The only way the "system" can now claim ownership over you is to rebutt that claim or provide a counter claim (UCC filing) proving that they created and therefore, own you.... does that make sense? Thats why asking who is going to enforce all this is also a moot point because ultimately its up to us to KNOW who we are and to stand firm and simply say, well, This UCC filing currently stands unrebutted, so all Im asking for, is for you, if you presume to have the authority to excersise a right of ownership over me, to provide me with proof of claim by rebutting the filing. By asking that simple question nothing is really able to proceed past that point until proof of claim is provided.... and it can never be provided because it doesnt exist.... This system is a legal fiction, we made it up, it didnt create us, we created it... you see? .... as I said, I may be wrong and Im certainly not infalable but so far, from what I can see, there is no movement to join, no forms to fill out, no cost to anyone and no harm will come to anyone by asking questions...

So where is the "cult" and whats to fear? ...Lets, for arguments sake, say that its all a scam, that the whole idea is BS... whats the worst that could happen?... well, really, the worst that could happen is you clogg the system up with paper work and get a few weeks reprieve on paying ur bills... bummer... but as I said, so far, from what I can see, the logic behind what has been done by the OPPT is sound and the unrebutted filing is there so ....

Lets see where it all leads ...and you need to break the spell and break out of that vatican/ god vs satan program you are running Arthur, we are all on the same side here. Everyone has a piece of the puzzle and all perspectives are valid, life isnt "Arthurs way or the Highway" brother. Building alternative communities is just turning your back on reality and allowing the world to turn to chaos around you via your non participation in it. All it means is that you let it grow in power so you get eaten up later rather than sooner. We dont need alternate communities. We already have community, we just need to fix this one. ... Peace

Wednesday at 15:51

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Donna Evans

Max what has happened to your Self Governing stance ?

Wednesday at 12:37

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Maggie Jackson

Right on! When i first heard of this i thought it was another paper pusher for money. i understood what she was saying but i also saw how many were still sleeping in the world. When i heard the interview with you Max the clarity came thru on a whole different level. We do have community.... of One....Universal

Wednesday at 12:41

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Max Igan

My self governance stance has remained the same Donna. Thats what this is all about.

Wednesday at 15:20

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Tim Foote

Beautifully put Max.

Wednesday at 15:31

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Arthur Cristian

Hi Max & Simon & others, we are replying to your comments. As you are our brothers/sisters of LIFE, our reply comes with our very best in the form of a video. It will be up within two days, possibly tonight. Max, you obviously have no idea what you are promoting and if you did you would not do it or you are seriously compromised and loyal to the fraternity of Masons (architects of "The System") you work for/with (No offence to the living-sensory-MAN intended.). Maggie, you are re-presenting (under) the spell of non-sense ("intellectual Property): "We do have community.... of One....Universal.", this comment is a load of BULLSHIT (no offence to the living-sensory-MAN intended). Watch the Love For Life videos and WAKE UP. They are all embedded in this thread. Simon, the video will be addressing the bigger picture of your very well presented views. All the best - Arthur & Fiona Cristian

Wednesday at 16:06

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HisRoyalslyness Gozaimasu Stone

In a duality checkerboard fiction landscape if U overbalance towards either polarity it plays right into the divide & conquer dialectic trap of the makers of the fiction. Taking no sides & accepting all is the middle neutral polarity that heals the bipolarity as without light or dark there is no creation yet it always balances where they both meet in every situation at the equinox point where light meets dark.

If a man (in) himself is divided then everything becomes black & white

This is how duality is manipulated by the powers that lie

When they are allowed to get away with controlling the psychology they then get away with controlling the perception.

Wednesday at 16:32

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Max Igan

As I said Arthur, you need to break that spell and break free of that Vatican program you are running. Remember, Divide and conquer is the motto...

Wednesday at 16:39

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Bruno Ferro

Hi Max, can you prove that Arthur is running a vatican program? And what's with all the slander towards Arthur and Fiona? By the way Arthur does not perform in the system e.g. commerce, spells etc.. plus I was present also during the 2009 weekend workshop/meeting and given the amount of effort that went into organising the event Arthur did not profit a dollar, fyi. If everyones a winner why is a score taken??

Wednesday at 17:56

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Max Igan

Arthur blaims almost everything on "satanism" and "satanists" ... satan is a fiction... its a vatican program.

Wednesday at 18:17

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Max Igan

I havent slandered Arthur Bruno. I merely questioned him on his anastasia story and responded to the slander he directed at me for asking the question. He has actually slandered me to a number of people previously, Ive received a few emails from people he has spoken to about it. Its just that I have gotten tired of it and decided to respond.

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Arthur Cristian

Max, you have stated openly on many occasions that you support "The System". We warn everyone to watch out for those who support "The System". Not to do so would show a lack of love for our brothers/sisters of life. This is not slander Max. Instead it is fact. We tell everyone to be very wary of anyone who openly supports "The System". The fact you peddle heaps of Satanic/Freemasonic engineered "spells" has us warn many people about you as well. Some of these "spells" have already been mentioned in this thread. This is not slander Max, it's a fact. The evidence of your "spelling" is on the net plastered everywhere. We operate under FULL-DISCLOSURE - watch the videos, there is nothing hidden.

As for Satanism, it's not what you think it is. You obviously have not been watching and comprehending the videos we've been posting and not reading and contemplating on the Love For Life articles as well.

Satanism is the practice of creating non-sense images and putting them into peoples brains through remote projection (there are many ways to do this) so that they fall into the belief of those images and set them into motion, carry them out, as in Little Mary now performing Alice in Wonderland, Billy performing Bob the Builder, Sally performing ABC, etc, etc,. We are all the victims of this through all the false images we are subjected to daily and we are so accustomed to having image after image put into our heads that we don't notice it happening and we think the images are just part of the normal river of thoughts flowing through our brains; we don't know which are our unique/original thoughts and which come from somewhere else. Used to spin spells, Satanists are brilliant non-sense "story tellers'.

You see Max, it is you who slanders here. We have never blamed the Vatican or left or right brain "constructs" for Satanic myths you claim we support. As you can see Max you have slandered Fiona And Arthur on many occasions. This is FACT, the evidence is clear for ALL to see.

To us, Satanism is NOT a Vatican program, instead it's a by-product of those who practice what we shared above.

Max, please show us the slander in this thread or the other that you claim we are guilty of.

Also, Satan is a code for the "Grand Architect' of "The System", the founding father of civilisation "The System". This fallen-MAN (not a fallen angel bullshit) has been given many names.... Odin, Zeus, Ahriman, Satan, Baal, Moloch, etc. Satan was a MAN, just like us. The legacy of his dream was passed down through his children across ALL recorded ages. This nutcase created "The Beast" that all Satanists/Freemasons/Pagans worship. They tell you clearly in their non-sense books.

Conscious or not, the fact you cast "spells" of non-sense IS the ONLY cause of divide and conquer Max. You are the culprit behind divide and conquer. Getting MAN to fall under the "spells" of NON-SENSE divides MAN from SENSE, therefore can be manipulated further,....to be used, abused, raped and exhausted of MANS life-force-energy. SENSE is consciousness/life/nature/earth/reality while NON-SENSE is unconsciousness/death/"The System"/fiction/fantasy-illusion-delusion.

We say you sold out because you openly support "The System". This is fact. If you have watched our videos, read our articles you would see clearly why we are saying it.

We even explain in this thread some of those reasons. Do you want us to lay it all out here again?

Wednesday at 22:55

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Felix Fletcher

Sam Walker

Wednesday at 23:22

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Sam Walker

Dont scare me like that! Felix Fletcher

Wednesday at 23:33

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Max Igan

Rubbish Arthur, show me where I have once said that I support the system or stand exposed as a liar. And of course I havent been watching your videos, why would I? Your still under the vatican spell and running the Vactican program.

18 hours ago

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Angel Frolicker

Seems like Arthur doesn't believe in birth control..must be under a Vatican spell...lol. What an ego of self righteousness! I'd grow tired of dealing with this kind of engagement too, Max. Sigh... This man does not listen or try to understand. Moving along. You want it public..so here's my response.

18 hours ago

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Simon Penton

Been recommended this instead:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgcW6Hzn46w
David Wynn Miller QUANTUM GRAMMAR SEMINAR SEPTEMBER 2012 FULL
Uploaded for pacsteam.org YouTube Playlist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnF3DVPWSfA&list=PLB86FB16CD021012C&featu...

16 hours ago

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Dylan Chiang

Max Igan brother with all do respect why even bother responding if you are not fully reading what Arthur is saying! i dont get it! --- what hes saying clearly has nothing to do with the Vatican at all or the common paradigms of what 'satanism ' is - give it a chance!-- Arthur Cristian is open for discussion we all want the same thing -- hes not attacking you the' man" max just the information you are presenting which even you have claimed you only have a 'skeletal " view of --so lets all work together on this there are alot of traps out there-- we are all waking up and the system is doing everything it can to trap us and trick us into accepting it again as its always done -we all know the lies wear thin thus its important to scrutinize and not take anything personally-- -love to you guys! i sooo appreciate the both of you --

16 hours ago

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HisRoyalslyness Gozaimasu Stone

Next time U go communicate with a tree Arthur, in particular an indigenous tree, see if U can be present enough in the moment to sense & hear what the tree essence is telling U. If U have trouble focusing deep enough to be present enough in the moment in order to hear the tree speak to U in the old language, i suggest that U perhaps find an aboriginal Shaman who still knows the old language (there arent many like this around but they are out there still) & he will explain many things to U that will make much deeper conscious sense of your current sense. Comprende?

Clues: Do U know which old language that the Levite priests et all pimped from to make all modern Romanized alphabet languages? The old language whose letter sounds U actually do hear in nature, & this language can only be properly/effectively communicated, spoken & heard, whilst being totally present in any moment whilst standing in the centre of your whole energetic being.

15 hours ago

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Max Igan

I dont read all he writes because he writes a chapter when all is needed is a paragraph Dylan. Its classic energy vampirism and I dont have time for it and as soon as I see the word satan, I skip to the next paragraph cos its all nonsense from there. The problem is that its impossible to discuss anything with Arthur that differs from Arthurs programmed opinion. He is under this vatican/roman/satanism spell and its always Arthurs way or the highway. Everyone I know who has ever attempted to discuss an alternate opinion to his with him, has always come up against the same wall. He's famous for it. In fact I will leave the discussion now. Ive given too much energy to this divide and conquer meme of his already.

15 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

Ok, so there is a formula that we have to fit into in order to debate with Max Igan. Could you please specify the exact number of words that is acceptable for you to read? Are there any other conditions that need to be applied before you will enter into debate? Is there a certain range of images/definitions/language that you would like us to confine our replies within? Perhaps you should put the conditions up on your website so that people know the box they have to get into to converse with you. So much for scrutiny of all information. We read everything people post so that we don't miss any gems. You ask questions, we answer them as best we can and then you can't be bothered to read the answer. So why ask the question? How can you make judgements about what we think and feel when you don't know what we think and feel because you don't read what we post???????

FYI - Satan is "The System" because it is the dream of the founder set into motion, sucking everyone's lives into its lies.

You openly support the Australian Constitution which is "The System" so you support "The System" of goven(men)t. Refer to earlier posts in this thread. You go on about us being into Vatican spells, etc, which we don't even talk about. We talk about non-sense.

Blah, blah, blah, blah - there is lots more we can say but Max will have stopped reading by now, if he even made it past the first sentence so we can just say blah, blah, blah.

BTW, it is Fiona writing this post - why does everyone love to attack Arthur but never says anything about me? I am involved in most of the stuff Arthur writes. If anyone doubts that they are welcome to call me on 0418 203 204 (International; 0011 61 418 203 204) and you can hear it directly from me. How about giving me a call Max?

Max, the vampires are the ones who cast spells to suck everyone's life energy into "The System" making them slaves to "The System" as they suck and suck and suck the non-sense of "The System" while those behind "The System" are sucking the life energy.

Divide and conquer: your determination to avoid diving into our work so that you comprehend it sufficiently to be able to have a sincere opinion about it IS the DIVIDE and placing your beliefs and opinions, etc, onto a higher standing IS the CONQUER. We have looked at your work and contemplated on it but we just don't agree with some of what you say and promote. You are just unwilling to put everything you claim, believe, etc, to the test. We are always willing to do this. We welcome your debate but what is the point when you do not know where we are coming from because you refuse to read, watch, contemplate and comprehend the information we share? Our door is always open for you, Max and we will always engage with you and anyone else.

We are not saying that everything has to be our way or no way - we are looking for the best remedy to "The System" and, at the moment, we do not see another other than "The Steps Of Kindom". If another comes along, doesn't matter whose idea it is, we will drop "The Steps Of Kindom" and go with it.

Go check out some of the debates that are on the Love For Life website - they are all there, warts and all. Most people are not willing to REALLY put their beliefs to the test and they do not want the false reality of their beliefs. faiths and associated opinions to be shattered but how are we supposed to arrive at the truth if we are not willing to scrutinise everything we know and put it to the test? If people complain about Arthur, ask them what there complaint is. It nearly always comes down to people attacking his character rather than putting the information we share to the test! People fight for their beliefs because they do not want to take responsibility for the truth and they like to blame somebody else when their beliefs are threatened. What harm do we do by scrutinising information and giving our honest and sincere feedback about it? We do not attack people or make it personal because we recognise that al men and women are our brothers and sisters and we want to co-create truth, peace, etc with all of them.

We have spoken to many, many people over the years and we have not come acoross anyone who does not want peace, truth, freedom, joy, abundance and do no harm for all without loss of uniqueness and originality for everyone/everything and without the need for slaves and rulers. This is what we live for and when we scrutinise information this is the test we put it to. Where we do not see it as being effective in creating the above, we point it out and explain why. That is all. This attitude is at the heart of all the Love For Life work we do. "The System" and the OPPT both fail to meet this criteria which is why we are having this discussion and why we say that what you are doing also fails this criteria. This is why we ask you why you say what you do? Do you not want peace, truth, etc? What do you stand for? And is it a problem if people scrutinise what you say and point out that it does not meet that criteria? How else are we going to rout out all the lies and liars everywhere and pave the way for all of us to have peace, truth, etc, in our lives, and for all our descendants to come to have it also?

12 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian @ Angel - what a lot of claims you make about someone you know very little about. Can you back any of them? Have you actually watched/read any of our work so that you can form a sincere opinion about them?

13 hours ago

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Arthur you are not even explaining yourself well or offering alternatives.. Max doesnt support the system, as you say. To be honest I find that very rude as Max has devoted his life to finding harmony for society.

13 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

@ HisRoyalslyness Gozaimasu Stone: No, we don't know what alphabet language you are talking about but we have been getting a lot of information about a very old German alphabet language which appears to be coming directly out of the Vedic cultures. There are some incredible people in Eurpoe who are working on this and sharing it with us. Once the linguists have translated it, we will put some stuff up for all to see. They are really concerned about getting the translation spot on because they had so many more letters than English so it is hard to get an accurate translation.

To us, the original language is the Song of Nature, MANS life in/as present-sense that is connected with our breath as explained in the videos we just posted "Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath)". However, it is very interesting to look at the older languages that were not as far removed from present sense as English is. If you know of any (Ab)Original Shaman who feels like sharing some of that wisdom, ask him/her if they want to come our way! If they are true Shamans then they already know about us and are observing what we do through the water of our (MANS) breath. By the way, recently we've been contacted by a few Original tribal MAN coming from various tribes across Earth. Let's see what comes. They don't disagree with the info we're sharing.

13 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

@ Gary. "Society" IS THE "SYSTEM"!!!! Are you aware of this???? Have you been reading ALL his posts on Facebook for the past 12 months or so? Also, HAVE YOU READ the remedy we share "The Steps Of Kindom?????? This is the alternative we offer. If you read it and have any comments about it, we would love to hear them. BTW: When we say things about Max it is rude but it is not rude when he says things about us? And why are you also leaving Fiona out of this? It is Fiona writing here again, with Arthur here too.

13 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

We are getting back to the video we are making so will not be around till later on.

13 hours ago

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Gary Carlyle Cook

No I havnt. Can you describe it in a succinct manner please?

You are welcome to your opinion but personally the universe is full of systems and most of them are useful to humans.

13 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

Gary - take responsibility for your life and put the effort in. We have written it and posted it so that we don't have to write it out, over and over again for those who want to know about it. In a nutshell, it provides peace, truth, freedom, joy, abundance and do no harm for all without loss of uniqueness and originality for everyone/everything and without the need for slaves and rulers. http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

BTW - can you bring forward the Universe to back your claims and all the systems that are useful. And please don't bring another MAN forward to re-present your claim; we want the Universe, the first party to come forward so we can experience it directly. Watch the videos embedded on this thread to comprehend the bigger picture of what we are sharing with you.

The Steps Of Kindom by Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 2006 to 2012
Links
"The Steps Of Kindom" http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304
or
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5788
or
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8256

13 hours ago

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Gary Carlyle Cook

I NEVER wrote that ALL systems are useful.

But thanks for the link.

May I just suggest you focus on your own work rather than trying to make Max look bad to forward your own agenda. What ever it is.

Peace.

13 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

We never said ALL systems either, we just said "all the systems that are useful". This is not the same as "all systems". What agenda? It was Max who started having a go at Arthur, questioning his integrity, etc. Are you having a go at Max about this? Go back to the beginning of the thread. Here's the link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/168861396594454 All the best - we really do have to go now.

12 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

Link to the OPPT: http://www.lisamharrison.com/2013/02/20/latest-oppt-filing

Anyone notice that MAN or man or Man, is not used anywhere in the OPPT Document.

Instead, they use "self".

Can they please bring forward "self" to back their claims that "self" exists. This is no different to "person" or "mind" or "strawman" or "ego" etc.... IN PRESENT-SENSE THEY DO NOT EXIST. They are just a reflection, an image of our projection. They are shadows of "illumined light" = "Intellectual Property".

Notice the word "person" in Blacks Law Dictionary..... SELF-DEFENCE = In criminal law. The protection of one’s person or property against some injury attempted by another. The right of such protection. An excuse for the use of force in resisting an attack on the person, and especially for killing an assailant.

http://thelawdictionary.org/self-defense

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Notice the word creator next to numeric codes....

"UCC 1-308, creator, experiencing by creation, knowingly, willingly, and intentionally manifesting self through, by, and between bondservant therefrom and any and all manifestations thereunder by Universal Contracts,......."

This creator is enjoindered to "commercial contracts".......

Now read carefully here:

Uniform Commercial Code

U.C.C. - ARTICLE 1 - GENERAL PROVISIONS

PART 1. GENERAL PROVISIONS [Table of Contents]

§ 1-103.

§ 1-103. Construction of [Uniform Commercial Code] to Promote its Purposes and Policies: Applicability of Supplemental Principles of Law.

(a) [The Uniform Commercial Code] must be liberally construed and applied to promote its underlying purposes and policies, which are: (1) to simplify, clarify, and modernize the law governing commercial transactions; (2) to permit the continued expansion of commercial practices through custom, usage, and agreement of the parties; and (3) to make uniform the law among the various jurisdictions.

(b) Unless displaced by the particular provisions of [the Uniform Commercial Code], the principles of law and equity, including the law merchant and the law relative to capacity to contract, principal and agent, estoppel, fraud, misrepresentation, duress, coercion, mistake, bankruptcy, and other validating or invalidating cause supplement its provisions.

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They are dealing with legalese here.
They filed the documents that oversees legalese = commercial courts which are defined by (and not only) blacks law dictionary.

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Money is the current(cy) (cy = see = sea) of the curse........

So the process of this OPPT document is the processing of a curse..... the combining of MANS life-force-energy as the sea of the curse.

This is blatant black-magic of the worst kind.

Where are they directing all this accumulating Life-Force-Energy?????????

Watch the video - coming shortly.

Link: http://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/1/article1.htm

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Notice the words used frequently "universe" and "universal" ------

uni verse
and
uni verse all

They are clearly telling you what this is all about.

Please bring forward the "universe" and the "universal" to back your claims. It must be a 1st party to 1st party direct experience and not the re-presentation of "universe" and "universal" performed by a man acting as "self". If so THIS IS FRAUD.

uni = ONE - ONENESS = SAMENESS
and
verse = story or his-story or her-story.

Universe means ONE-STORY
and
universal means ONE-STORY FOR ALL

meaning there is no uniqueness/originality and that ALL are under the same story = one world government, one word religion.........etc.

We say no more.

Video coming ASAP.

Love Arthur & Fiona Cristian

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Arthur Cristian

Max Igan is he truly a freethinker and a bastion of freedom of speech ---he removed our FB friendship with him today??????

5 hours ago

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HisRoyalslyness Gozaimasu Stone

Aramaic/Magyar language/Phoenician Magyars/Celts/Australian Aboriginies/Incas/Ecuadorians etc. -----> Atlantean/Lemurian Era

All modern Romanizied alphabet languages have been pimped/derived from Magyar. Latin is Etruscan backwards. Etruscan is Magyar.

The linguist and diplomat Sir John Bowring wrote the following about the Magyar language in 1830:

“The Hungarian language goes far back. It developed in a very peculiar manner and its structure reaches back to times when most of the now spoken European languages did not even exist. It is a language which developed steadily and firmly in itself, and in which there are logic and mathematics with the adaptability and malleability of strength and chords. The Englishman should be proud that his language indicates an epic of human history. One can show forth its origin; and alien layers can be distinguished in it, which gathered together during the contacts with different nations. Whereas the Hungarian language is like a rubble-stone, consisting of only one piece, on which the storms of time left not a scratch. It is not a calendar that adjusts to the changes of the ages. It needs no-one, it doesn’t borrow, does no buckstering, and doesn’t give or take from anyone. This language is the oldest and most glorious monument of national sovereignty and mental independence. What scholars cannot solve, they ignore. In philology it’s the same way as in archaeology. The floors of the old Egyptian temples, which were made out of only one rock, can’t be explained. No one knows where they came from, or from which mountain the wondrous mass was taken. How they were transported and lifted to the top of the temples. The genuineness of the Hungarian language is a phenomenon much more wondrous than this. He who will solve that will analyze a divine secret, the first thesis of which is: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”

21st Feb 2013 11.50pm

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We Stand For NO SYSTEM

Kindom (Do No Harm Communities) is the dream for freedom, but it is the dream for the freedom of those around us who also live the dream of freedom, because it is in living for the freedom of others that we get our freedom. When we live for the dreams of Kindom of those around us, we live life as a gift because we live for (dedicate our lives to) their dream of freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, etc, just as they live for our Kindom dreams too. This is true co-creation (cooperation) with no attack on the uniqueness of each of us. When we live this way, we have no need for any man-made system - everything/everyone has already been taken care of by our love for life.

Just as we do not have to jump 10 feet across the room to grab our next breath, neither do we have to worry about food, water and shelter because it has all been taken care of as we each co-create Kindoms/Kin-Domains for everyone. Now everybody and everything of the dream of life that is Kindom/Paradise is free (has been set free once again). The issue is greed and selfishness, power and control trips, arrogance, ignorance, being fed many many lies and being traumatised. The issue is not overpopulation - there is more than enough land available for every family to have a hectare (2.5 acres Kin-Domain) to care for. The land of Australia can provide a Kin-Domain for every family across Earth, each with a food forest, clean fresh drinking water and plenty of space for building natural do no harm habitats and with plenty of land left over.

Everyone must have the freedom to take full-responsibility for their lives, for the water they drink, the food they eat and for their shelter. Currently, "The System" forces everyone to give up taking full-responsibility so that we become grown up children accustomed to sucking on the nipples of "The System" corporations for everything, having to use money to get by and to follow the rules of money because we are not co-creating freedom, peace, truth, joy and abundance for each other. Money only leads to haves and have nots and all the abuse, manipulation and distractions that we are subjected to as slaves to money.

When we give up living for other's Kindom dreams, we start creating hell ("The System") all around us because we become self-centred - now it's all about "my freedom","my money", "my land", "my belief", "my saviour", "mine", "mine","mine", "i","i", "i", "own", "own", "own", etc. To protect what we claim we own requires a man-made system with FORCE to protect those self-centred claims. This is ALL trauma based and all story-telling (brainwashing/braindirtying).

NO SYSTEM = KINDOM/DO NO HARM COMMUNITIES
NO SYSTEM = KINDOM/DO NO HARM COMMUNITIES photo Kindom_zpsa6d24e8a.jpg

Our true freedom comes when we set our thoughts of freedom into motion so that we live freedom rather than just talking and thinking about it while we still slave for "The System". Kindom will not happen while we meditate for hours in the bush or do yoga retreats or wait for Jesus or follow the processes of the OPPT (One People's Public Trust now called One People). This is not freedom because we are not living freedom because we are living the story-telling of Jesus or Zeitgeist or The Secret or Thrive or One Earth/Consciousness/People.

Living Kindom is very, very hard work as we set about repairing the damage to MAN/Earth/Nature that we are ALL responsible for but the burden becomes lighter the more of us put our life-energy into the dream of returning Earth to Paradise. Day-after-day, we all have to work our arses off until Kindom is all around us (MAN) once again. This is the price we pay to set each other free on a piece of land (Kin-Domain), so that no one is under the image-power (education/brainwashing/story-telling) of another MAN anymore and so that everyone can have their space of love to create and live their unique, do no harm dreams. This only happens once we have the Kindoms set up so that everyone is provided for.

Once we re-create the food forests, whether on land or in the suburbs, we can re-claim our freedom, breaking the strangle-hold of "The System" because we are no longer reliant on its services and benefits and no longer turning each other into slaves of "The System", cogs in the wheels of "The System" machine. If we don't put the effort in to set everyone and everything free all around us then we still live in HELL ("The System"). The key is to live for everyone else's freedom so that we can have it too.

From Bare Dirt To Abundance
A Year In The Life Of The
Love For Life Food Forest

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
8th February 2013
51 Minutes 46 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A

From Bare Dirt To Abundance Part Two A
5th November 2014
http://youtu.be/TPTPn8tgcPI
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8545

From Bare Dirt To Abundance Part Two B
Coming Shortly

We live for NO SYSTEM. We do not lose anything by not having a man-made system and, in fact, we gain. We gain our freedom and we gain abundance. Let go of the fear.

The Cristian Family November 2006

A Collection Of Various Love For Life Posts
Providing The Big Picture We See

Sequential Order

We ask you to NOT believe anything we say/share and instead use scrutiny like an intense blow torch and go where the logic of truth/sense takes you. This is very, very important. Put everything you believe up to the test of scrutiny to see how it stacks up. If you are true to your heart/senses and go where the logic of truth/sense takes you will find that NO belief, etc, will stand up to the test of scrutiny. They just do not stack up because they are lies/fraud.

After you have watched and read all the material and any questions are left unanswered, send us your landline number and we will use the internet phone as a free unlimited call. We are on Sydney NSW Australia time. Best times for us to chat are between 11.00am and 6.00pm.

It is critical that you fully comprehend Image Power, "Spelling", Trauma, Reaction To Trauma, Curses, Processing Curses, Full-Responsibility/Liability, Limited Liability/Responsibility (passing-the-back), Slavery, Senses/Sense vs Non-Sense/Senses, Re-Presenting Intellectual Property such as but not limited to "Name", Storytelling/Storytellers, Duality, Black-Magic, Belief, Lies, "i", All Seeing "i" (eye), etc..... These themes and others are covered over and over and over again.

If you do not comprehend these insights and are unable to use your senses to sense your way through all the non-sense/non-sensory-images that enslave MAN under their image power (darkness = "The System" = Hell), men and women will remain deeply trapped under a terrible state of trauma. Our intention is to inspire you to remedy by showing you how to move away from reacting to trauma in all its nefarious and devious forms.

IMAGE POWER
Superb Diamond Range Interviewing
Arthur & Fiona Cristian 4th February 2014
http://youtu.be/qFnuuw3kLog
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8501

His-Story/Her-Story (History)
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
2005-2007 - Re-posted July 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8529

The Dream Of Life Part 6
Under The Spell Of Intellectual Property

Arthur Cristian - 51 Minutes 52 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMK7CkU1ih8

Trauma Induced Fantasy
July 2013 Interview With
Jeanice Barcelo And Arthur & Fiona Cristian
http://youtu.be/CZVj-ddUoZw
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8500

The Dark Side Of The Moon
The Background To "The System"

Arthur & Fiona Cristian Interviewed By
Jahnick Leaunier, The Tru-Mon Show
24th August 2016
Love For Life - 142 Minutes
https://youtu.be/C5TViw1NLr4

Eric Dubay's Flat Earth Is A Cult
The Background To The System Part Two

Arthur & Fiona Cristian Chatting With
Jahnick Leaunier On The Tru-Mon Show
Love For Life - 31st August 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8585
154 Minutes
https://youtu.be/rCPWgEQg-2M

Eclipse Of The Sun - Video (Arthur swears in this video)
The Background To The System Part Three
Arthur & Fiona Cristian Chatting With
Jahnick Leaunier On The Tru-Mon Show
Love For Life - 25th October 2016
https://youtu.be/FMOsOi1kNRc

The "Name" Is The Mark Of The Beast
The Strawman Identifying
Your Slave Status In "The System"

By Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
5th February 2012 - 56 Minutes 25 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdOag66v7uo

The Satanic Craft Of Inculcation In Practice
Fiona's ACT Supreme Court Affidavit Explaining Inculcation & Illumination
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
4th March 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8578

The Spinning Top
Full Bloom Inculcation

Arthur And Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
Facebook Discussions Between The
8th December 2016
And
26th January 2017
Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/16/03/04/satanic-craft-inculcation-pra...

The Shit Of Death
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
28th January 2017
Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/16/03/04/satanic-craft-inculcation-pra...

The Selfie Of Freakenstein
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
17th March 2017
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8588

Three Sets Of Fiona Cristian Documents Filed With ACAT
Merged Into One Document For Downloading
https://www.scribd.com/document/327370355/Fiona-Cristian-Affidavit-ACT-S...

Fiona Cristian Affidavit
ACT Supreme Court / Court Of Appeal

https://www.scribd.com/doc/316218306/Three-Sets-of-Fiona-Cristian-Docume...

Dancing With Magic (Lies)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Videos, Articles, Comments
And Pending E-Book
Love Fort Life
September 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8575

Dancing With Magic Part One
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
5th September 2015
https://youtu.be/hx7qJ7r2OS4

Dancing With Magic Part Two
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
12th September 2015
https://youtu.be/b_KuEFdKmnA

Dancing With Magic Part Three
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
13th September 2015
https://youtu.be/9pJc1NfnAcI

Dancing With Magic (Lies) Part Four:
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
16th September 2015
https://youtu.be/kSVURGwm1Go

Introduction To Kindom Video
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
6th March 2015
https://youtu.be/7SspPm9wRgo

To Be Educated Is To Have No Soul
The System Is Soul Destroying

Frederick Malouf & Michael Tellinger's
Contrived Gifting
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
1st September 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8586

Illumination IS Definition
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
26th to 29th January 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8577

IMAGE POWER
The Nefarious Tactics Used
To Disguise Truth And Distract Us
From Remedy

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
24th January 2014
This post contains many recent Facebook comments
and email replies which collectively provides a big picture
into exposing the deception behind IMAGE POWER.
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8496

The Pull Of E-Motion
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
8th February 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8499

Processing Curses
A Lie Is A Curse
Liars Process Curses

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
26th February 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8503

How The System Is Really Constructed
Bouncing Back Curses Upon Curse Makers
To Stop Harm Forevermore

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
27th February 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8504

Slave To A Name
Parts One, Two, Three, Four,
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd to 6th March 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8505

Educated Slaves
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
20th March 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8506

The Only Path To Freedom
Beware The False Steps

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 2nd April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8508

Free-Dumb For All
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 5th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8510

Revoking The Ego
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 8th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8511

How MAN Commits Spiritual Suicide
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life - 3rd April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8509

How To Detect Intel Operatives Working
For The New World Order Agenda
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 10th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8512

How The Psyop Program & Intel Networks
Are Messing With Your Head +
His-Story/Her-Story

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8513

Godzilla Through The Looking Glass
Destroyed By Name"

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 20th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514

What It's Going To Take
To Co-Create Freedom Forevermore

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 22nd April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514

Falling For Fairy Stories
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 24th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514

A Disassociation From The Work
Of Kate of Gaia

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 17th May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8517

Separating The Wheat From The Chaff
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 22nd May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8516

Revolution Or Revolution
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 25th May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8520

Routing Out Psyop Programs
Routs Out Intel Operatives
Exposing Max Igan's Psyop Program

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 31st May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8524

The Psyop Program Scam
Behind Religion Belief Faith
& Associated Opinion

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
11th June 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8525

Another Delusion
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
11th June 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8526

A World Of Words Is A World Of Lies
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
13th June 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8527

E-MAN
The Name Of The Beast Is MAN

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 9th May 2014
Includes Mountain MAN Arrested
Facebook Discussion About "Name"
Uploaded 25th June 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8528

E-Motion
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 13th August 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8537

Discussion With Brother Gregory
Clearly Demonstrating Christianity
Is Part Of The Problem
And Not The Solution

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
Between the 12th May 2014 and 30th August 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8542

The Psyop Program Behind Free Food
And Permaculture

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
29th October 2014
Facebook Discussion With Unconditional Love Moon
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8544

Head So Strong
Music and Vocals Arthur Cristian
Backing Vocals and Vocal Effects Arthur Cristian & Hannah Wood
Lyrics Fiona and Arthur Cristian
Written during our spare time between Aug & Oct 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG4UQCTsqwU

The Time Of Trauma That Destroys Us
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
9th November 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8547

The Most Powerful Video On Spirituality
And Happiness FOR SLAVES
Or
How To Accept Slavery And Be Happy About It

Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
6th August 2014
Facebook Discussion About The Work Of Eckhart Tolle
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8548

What Can We Do What Can We See
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
A series of Arthur Cristian Facebook
posts and discussions
between 17th and 21st November 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8552

The Misuse Of Love By Intel Networks
To Create Doubt And Uncertainty
With The Intention To Destroy Love
And Therefore Destroy MAN
(True Freedom, Peace, Joy, Abundance And Truth
For Everyone)

By Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
26th November 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8554

The Void Of E-GO That Is Spiritual Suicide
The Justification Of Laziness
That Perpetuates System Creature Comforts
Ensuring Our Fall

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
13th December 2014
Massive Update Occurred 14th Dec 2014 3.10pm Sydney Aust time
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8556

Darkness Visible Part One A, B, C, D
The Freemasonic World In Plain Sight
Decoding George Washington Lithographs

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
14th December 2014
Part One A http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8557
Part One B http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8567
Part One C http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8568
Part One D http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8569

Darkness Visible Part Two
Yin And Yang, Duality, Spiritual Suicide
And Frank O'Collins UCADIA / One Heaven

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
14th December 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8558

Darkness Visible Part Three
How The Word Sausage
Re-Presents The New World Order
Boiling Point & Out To Get Us

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
27th December 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8560

Darkness Visible Part Four
Aleister Crowley - Thelema - OTO
And The Black Magic Psychedelia Of The Intellect

Facebook Discussion
4th to 10th January 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8561

Darkness Visible Part Five
Living MAN Fiona Cristian's Standing
+ Decoding Judeo/Judaism

Fiona Cristian & Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
24th January 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8562

Darkness Visible Part Six
The Many Fingers Of The Hidden Hand Appearing
YouTube Community Flagged A Video
Posted To The ArthurLoveForLife YouTube Channel
As Being "Hate Speech"

Fiona Cristian & Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
4th February 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8563

Darkness Visible Part Seven
The Full Responsibility For Setting
True Freedom For All Into Motion
In Present-Sense Forevermore

Fiona Cristian & Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
10th February 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8564

Who We Really Are Does Not End
At The Surface Of Our Skin

Arthur Cristian & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 22nd February 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8565

Introduction To Kindom Video
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
6th March 2015
https://youtu.be/7SspPm9wRgo

The Rot Parts One, Two, Three
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
5th June 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8571

"The Good Guys" And The "Bad Guys"
Working Together To Bring In
The New World Order

Arthur Cristian - 18th July 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8572

Can You Spot The Ego?
Where's Wally? Part One

Compilation of Facebook & Youtube
Insight Posts During Aug/Sept 2015
By Arthur Cristian
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8573

Can You Spot The Ego?
Where's Wally? Part Two

Compilation of Facebook & Youtube
Insight Posts During Aug/Sept 2015
By Arthur Cristian
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8576

Dancing With Magic (Lies)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Videos, Articles, Comments
And Pending E-Book
Love Fort Life
September 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8575

Dancing With Magic Part One
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
5th September 2015
https://youtu.be/hx7qJ7r2OS4

Dancing With Magic Part Two
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
12th September 2015
https://youtu.be/b_KuEFdKmnA

Dancing With Magic Part Three
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
13th September 2015
https://youtu.be/9pJc1NfnAcI

Dancing With Magic (Lies) Part Four:
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
16th September 2015
https://youtu.be/kSVURGwm1Go

Illumination IS Definition
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
26th to 29th January 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8577

The Satanic Craft Of Inculcation In Practice
Fiona's ACT Supreme Court Affidavit Explaining Inculcation & Illumination
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
4th March 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8578

The Dark Side Of The Moon
The Background To "The System" Part One

Arthur & Fiona Cristian Chatting With
Jahnick Leaunier On The Tru-Mon Show
Love For Life - 24th August 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8583

Eric Dubay's Flat Earth Is A Cult
The Background To The System Part Two

Arthur & Fiona Cristian Chatting With
Jahnick Leaunier On The Tru-Mon Show
Love For Life - 31st August 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8585

To Be Educated Is To Have No Soul
The System Is Soul Destroying
Frederick Malouf & Michael Tellinger's
Contrived Gifting

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
1st September 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8586

New Love For Life Kindom Facebook Group
Started March 2015
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1434747556816918
Includes 63 Minute
Introduction To Kindom Video
https://youtu.be/7SspPm9wRgo
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
and
Facebook Kindom Group Guidelines
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8566
The Love For Life website home-page provides
the bigger-picture background to the themes
touched on in this video: http://loveforlife.com.au

Crop Circles Are A Massive Hoax
Facebook Discussion On Simon Kawai's Wall
Involving Arthur & Fiona Cristian
31st August 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8470

OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
27th February 2013 onwards...
Part One: http://youtu.be/Qjp_9nlrBao
Part Two: http://youtu.be/tbybeOWZ-Bc
Part Three: http://youtu.be/yOWoxH-HbVw

Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 8th February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8350
Part One: http://youtu.be/4ze66_33wxM - 70 Minutes 5 Seconds
Part Two: http://youtu.be/43gIi-sjxJc - 81 Minutes 13 Seconds
Part Three: http://youtu.be/oooY6W63K-M - 70 Minutes 18 Seconds

What Do You Believe On Origins?
Who Said There Was A Beginning?
Who's Truth Do You Accept?
Belief Is A Strange Idea.

Discussion Lyndell, Scott and Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Between March and April 2013
Posted 29th October 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8487

So You Want The Good Bits Of "The System"
But Not The Bad Bits?

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 12th August 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8468

Turning Away From The Reflection
Of MANS Looking Glass

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
30th April 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8404

REMEDY

From Bare Dirt To Abundance
A Year In The Life Of The
Love For Life Food Forest

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
8th February 2013
51 Minutes 46 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A

From Bare Dirt To Abundance Part Two
5th November 2014
http://youtu.be/TPTPn8tgcPI
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8545

From Bare Dirt To Abundance Part Three
7th March 2016
60 Minutes
https://youtu.be/SH9i8ZStzWI

Love For Life Food Forest & Native Garden March 2016
Extension Of The Love For Life Food Forest And Establishment
Of A New Native Garden At The Front Of The Rental Property
In East Bowral - 24th October 2015 to Mid February 2016.
15 Minutes
https://youtu.be/y-Uz8HmnSIM

Control The Land
And You Control MAN On The Land
Displace MAN From Land
And You Turn MAN Into Slaves

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
April 2011 (Updated 14th September 2011)
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8237

The Divine Spark
Facebook Discussion With Raymond Karczewski
Arthur & Fiona Cristian & Others
2nd October 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8483

Capturing Another MANS Uniqueness
A Facebook Debate With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
And Raymond Karczewski
Starting 13th May 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8414

The Spell Is Broken
Taking The Land To Create Kindom

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8365

The Steps Of Kindom
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life 2006/2007
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

To explore these themes in greater detail go here where you can find links to all our Love For Life comments, articles, debates, discussions, videos, podcasts, etc: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385

All the best
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

Website: http://loveforlife.com.au
Email : action@loveforlife.com.au
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Peaceful Transition Through Sacrifice And Service

We feel there is an essential peaceful do no harm transition required to get all of MAN back to standing on MANS feet without reliance upon another MAN for water, food, shelter. As it stands everyone in "The System" are highly dependent and reliant on the "group mind-set" that forms "The System" of slaves providing services and benefits for the emotionally addicted slaves to "The System" (and you can put us in the same basket too). The transition is to get MAN back to relying ONLY on nature without 3rd party interlopers, intermeddlers, interceders getting in the way. The transition is a team effort with the foresight for setting all of MAN free down-the-line so that MAN is no longer dependent on slaves and masters providing services, benefits, privileges and exclusivity while being bound to contracts, rituals, procedures, conditions, rules & regulations which compromises MAN severely.

This transition is all about shifting from limited liability/responsibility to full liability/responsibility. This full responsibility is all about caring for our health, nature all around us, clean uncorrupted (pure) water and food, partner/co-creator, children, shelter, animal-friends in partnership, etc. In "The System", we are already together destroying each other - we have to come together to create peace together so that we can all have peace. We cannot live peacefully when we are islands, not taking full responsibility for the lives of those around us until EVERYONE can take full responsibility for their life, which means that EVERYONE is healed of system trauma. In "The System", we all come together to make slaves of each other - now is the moment to come together to set each other free, to live for each other's freedom, peace, joy and abundance. Once we have set each other free, we are free.

Control The Land
And You Control MAN On The Land
Displace MAN From Land
And You Turn MAN Into Slaves

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
April 2011 (Updated 14th September 2011)
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8237

The Spell Is Broken
Taking The Land To Create Kindom

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8365

"The Steps Of Kindom"
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

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Once we fix these issues, we or our children or our descendants to come, can start focusing on the even bigger picture of getting back to where our ancestors were, as breatharyan's, before they fell into non-sense images to be enslaved by them.

All the best to you and your family
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

The Cristian Family November 2006

The Cristian Family Declaration

The Cristian family and The Love for Life Campaign are apolitical, non-religious, non-violent, anti weapons, anti drugs (both pharmaceutical and recreational) and anti any ideology that denies the existence of Do No Harm Communities (Kindoms) and suppresses the uniqueness and freedom of all men, women and children.

The Cristian family and our Love For Life work is unaligned to any big business corporation, intelligence agency, government body, "system" law, "system" think tanks, "system" green or environmental movements, religion, cult, sect, society (fraternity, brotherhood, sisterhood, order, club, etc,) secret or not, hidden agenda, law or sovereignty group, occult, esoteric, New Age or Old Age.

The Cristian family supports and promotes the remedy that brings an everlasting peace, freedom, truth, joy, abundance and do no harm for all of life without causing loss of uniqueness or the need for having slaves and rulers. We are not into following the one in front or being shepherds for sheeple. Most importantly, we take full-responsibility for everything we think, feel and do.

The Cristian family are not Christians.

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

December 2006

The Cristian Family November 2006

THE CRISTIAN FAMILY PLEDGE

Being of clear brain, heart and intention, we each declare the following to be true:

• We have no intention of ending our own lives.

• We will not tolerate suppression of truth, ideas, freedom, or our work. We stand for freedom of speech.

• We stand together to support others in the expression of truths and freedom to speak out no matter how radical those ideas may seem.

• Standing for freedom takes courage; together we shall be strong in the face of all odds.

• If it is ever claimed that we have committed suicide, encountered an unfortunate accident, died of sickness/disease, disappeared, been institutionalized, or sold out financially or in any other way to self-interested factions, we declare those claims false and fabricated.

• We testify, assert and affirm without reservation, on behalf of all those who have dedicated their lives to the ending of secrecy and the promotion of freedom of thought, ideas and expression that we shall prevail.

• We Do Not Have Multiple Personality Disorders

Arthur Cristian
Fiona Cristian
Jasmin Lily Cristian
Emma Rose Cristian
Frances Hannah Cristian
Xanthe Jane Cristian

15th December 2006 (Edited/Updated 18th September 2011)

The Cristian Family November 2006

Update Regarding The Love For Life
Home Page And Quick User Guide

We are turning the Love for Life Quick User Guide http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608 into a blog of all the main insights of our work since March 2005, whether through articles, videos, podcasts or discussions/debates.

As we do not have the time to compile everything we have written into a book, as many have suggested we do, compiling all our most important work into one area of the website is a way of providing easy access to this work so those interested are able to fully comprehend the big picture.

Instead of having to find our different articles, videos, etc, in various parts of the website, it will all be accessible here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385.

Love For Life Videos

As amateurs and posted in the Quick User Guide below the Facebook links, we're currently creating and posting a series of videos called "The Dream Of Life" which covers the ground of all the Love For Life insights. We plan to have the videos completed by December 31st 2012. Once this is behind us, our intention is to create a 2 hour or so video covering the body of this work. All videos are embedded in the quick user guide http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608 and uploaded in Arthur's YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/ArthurLoveForLife.

Love For Life Music

We have started recording songs, with others, that express the themes of Love For Life. They are now being posted on Arthur's YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/ArthurLoveForLife and are embedded in the quick user guide http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608. We have over 100 songs to record. A few rough demos have already been used as the soundtrack on the first "Dream of Life" video.

About Us - Love For Life & The Cristian Family

Also, everything we, the Cristian family, have gone through, from bank fraud and the theft of the family home to death threats and attempts on Arthur's life, is documented in the Quick User Guide too. If you, the reader, are prepared to put the effort in, you will comprehend the extent to which we have all been tricked into becoming slaves, giving up our uniqueness and our full-responsibility for life and destroying everything of life to the point where life is in danger of dying out completely. You will also comprehend the remedy to all this chaos; a remedy that requires only love for life and the determination to do what needs to be done. Though our focus is very strongly on the remedy that creates a world of freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance and Do No Harm for all of life without loss of uniqueness or the need for slaves and rulers, we realise that it is vital to comprehend how to get there and what stops us from getting there. This is why there is so much information on the hows and whys of everything going wrong in the world today. We are not into peddling conspiracy theories, we are into routing out all forms of organised crime.

Saturday 26th November 2011

Arthur and Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

Website: http://loveforlife.com.au
Email: action@loveforlife.com.au
Mobile: 0011 61 418 203204 - (0418 203204)
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Facebook Why Aren't We Free Discussion: http://www.facebook.com/164918753537287
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MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/loveforlifemusic
Google + Fiona Cristian: https://plus.google.com/100490175160871610090
Register To The Love For Life Mailing List: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/09/05/14/mailing-list

1. For The Body Of The Love For Life Work by Arthur and Fiona Cristian

Which Unravels The Reasons For The Chaos, Mayhem and Confusion Being Experienced In The World Today, Explains The Need For "Community Immunity" and Responsibility, and Focuses On The Creation Of Kindoms - Do No Harm, Life-Sustainable Communities (As The Remedy That Heals All Mans Woes) - And How We Can Co-Create Them. For Comments, Articles And Discussions, Go Here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 - Also Go Here To See Podcasts And Videos Posted by Arthur & Fiona Cristian: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7309 - The Information Shared Comes From Inspiration, Intuition, Heartfelt-Logic And Information Gathered From Nature And Many Amazing Men And Women Along The Way. It Is Not Found In Any Books Or Channellings, Or Talked About By "Experts". Go Here To Read A Brief Synopsis Of Why We Started Love For Life: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8182

2. For Information About The Ringing Cedars of Russia Series

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1125 and for more on Eco Homes, Villages, Organic and Permaculture Gardening and Life-Sustainability, etc, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3641 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1985 and Mikhail Petrovich Shchetinin - Kin's School - Lycee School at Tekos: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5173

3. For How To Eat A Raw, Living Food Diet,

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5068 - LIFE is information. When we distort LIFE and then eat, drink, absorb, think, feel, hear, see, touch, taste, smell and perform these distortions, the information of LIFE, your LIFE, our LIFE, our children's lives, everyone's LIFE, is distorted.

4. To Find A Menu For The Extensive Research Library (over 8,000 items posted embodying over 11,000 documents, pdf's, videos, podcasts, etc)

Which Covers Topics From Health to Chemtrails/Haarp to Brain Control to Archaeology to Astronomy Geocentricity Heliocentricity to Pandemics Bird Flu Swine Flu to Fluoride to Cancer to Free Energy to Global Warming, 9/11, Bali Bombings, Aspartame, MSG, Vaccinations, Aids/HIV, Mercury, New World Order, Satanism, Religions, Cults, Sects, Symbolism, etc, etc, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/82

5. If You Would Like To Read About The Cristian Family NSW Supreme Court Case

(Macquarie Bank/Perpetual Limited Bank Fraud Condoned By Judges, Registrars, Barristers, Lawyers, Politicians, Public Servants, Bureaucrats, Big Business and Media Representatives - A Crime Syndicate/Terrorist Organisation) Which Prompted The Creation Of This Love For Life Website December 2006, And The Shooting And Torture Of Supporters Who Assisted Us In Reclaiming The Family Home, Joe Bryant And His Wife, Both In Their Late 70's, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5 And Read Some Of Our Email Correspondence With Lawyer Paul Kean - Macedone Christie Willis Solari Partners - Miranda Sydney May 17th-June 27th 2006: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7300

6. For The Stories Of Other Victims Of The System,

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/australian_stories (If you have a story you would like us to put up, we would love to here from you:
action @ loveforlife.com.au)

7. For Documentation Of Harm Done By The Powers-That-Be And Their Representatives,

Evidence Revealing How Victims Did Not Break The Peace, Caused No Crime or Harm, There Were No Injured Parties. Documenting Incontrovertible Evidence Demonstrating How The Powers That Be (PTB) And Their Lackeys Will Break All The Laws They Are Supposed To Uphold. They Will Kidnap, Intimidate, Terrorise, Rape, Pillage, Plunder And Lie And Take Responsibility For None Of It. All Part Of Their Tactics Of Using Fear And Trauma To Keep Us In Our Place. Relatives Of Those Under Their Radar Are Also Not Safe From Attack And Intimidation. All Starting From A $25 Fine For Not Voting And A $65 Fine For Not Changing A Dog Registration. We Do Not Have Freedom And Can Only Appear To Have Freedom If We Comply. Regardless How Small The Matter The PTB Throw Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars Away To Enforce Their Will.... Go Here:
Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office - Part One to Part Ten - From 17th October 2008 And Still Continuing:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6319 or
Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office
Part One: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5742 - From 17th October 2008
Part Two: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6135 - From 18th December 2008
Part Three: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6295 - From 9th January 2009
Part Four: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6296 - From 14th January 2009
Part Five: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6375 - The Sick Puppy - From 20th February 2009
Part Six: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6390 - Police Officers, Sheriff’s Officers, Tow Truck Driver and State Debt Recovery Office Blatantly Ignore the Law To Rape, Pillage and Plunder The Private Property Of Fiona Cristian - From 11th March 2009
Part Seven: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6445 - Affidavit Of Truth - Letter To The Queen + Australia: Fascism is Corporatism - From 30th March 2009
Part Eight: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6652 - The Pirates Auction And The Ghost Of VSL386 - From 4th April 2009
Part Nine: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7073 - Arthur Cristian's Letter To Pru Goward MP - From 15th December 2009
Part Ten: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7500 - Should We Be In Fear Of Those Who Claim To Protect Us? "Roman Cult" Canon Law - Ecclesiastical Deed Poll - The Work Of Frank O'Collins - From 13th October 2010

8. If You Are Interested In Information On Freedom From Statutes, Rule-Of-Law, Free Man/Free Woman, Strawman, "Person" and Admiralty Law (The Law Of Commerce),

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/895 - For Common Law, Democracy, Constitution, Trial By Jury, Fee Simple, etc, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/category/main/law-articles-documents

9. If You Are Interested In Banking and Money Created (Fiat/Credit/Debt/Mortgage/Loan/Overdraft etc) Out-Of-Thin-Air, How Banks Counterfeit Money,

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/banks

10. For A List Of All The Latest Posts In The Love For Life Website,

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/tracker

11. For Links To Many Hundreds Of Videos, DVDs And Podcasts

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/video_dvd

12. To See The Cristian Family Pledge, Legal and other Disclaimers

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/06/12/05/love-life-legal-disclaimer

13. To Read About How A Representative Of The NSW Jewish Board Of Deputies Had Threatened To Shut Down The Love For Life Website

go here: Part One: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6616 Part Two: THE STEVE JOHNSON REPORT AND VIDEO: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6665 and Part Three: Latest Update On James Von Brunn: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6673

Conscious Love Always
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
action @ loveforlife.com.au
www.loveforlife.com.au
0418 203204 (int: 0011 61 418 203204)
PO Box 1320 Bowral 2576 NSW Australia

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THE CRISTIAN FAMILY SUPPORTS
FREEDOM OF SPEECH - FREEDOM OF THOUGHT

The Cristian Family November 2006

Posted Wednesday 17th June 2009
Updated September 2011

NSW Jewish Board Of Deputies
Has Threatened To Shut Down
The Love For Life Website

No Freedom Of Speech - No Freedom Of Thought

Love For Life does not support harm doing in any shape or form. However, we are supporters of free speech and post articles, documentaries, etc, that represent a wide cross section of ideas. See the Love For Life extensive research library where over 6000 documents, articles and videos are posted: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/82. We clearly see the evidence of the destruction to MAN and the earth that has been caused by ALL religions over the centuries and are therefore not supporters of religions, cults, sects or any group that demands conformity of thought, speech or action, or has rules, regulations or rituals that must be followed. Religions, nationalities and cultural "identities" are formed as a result of the brainwashing we receive from childhood. They are part of the tactics the Establishment uses to keep us all divided from one another and fighting one another.

All religions promote discrimination and division, leading to hatred and even violence and murder. None of them have yet to produce a remedy to all the suffering, poverty, unhappiness and discrimination in the world. If any religion truly had the remedy to all the suffering on earth, there would no longer be any suffering. What have Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, atheism and the New Age done to end the suffering in the world?

Since December 2006, there have been many attempts to take down the Love For Life website. Any attempts have been thwarted by Love For Life supporters inundating the harm-doers with emails, etc, objecting to them taking down the website for a variety of reasons. The trouble makers usually back off when they realise that they can post all their views, arguments, beliefs, etc, in the Love For Life website without censorship or restriction imposed. They get to see that even the Queen, Pope, Prime Minister, President of America, etc, can post all their views without hindrance or sabotage and that we support freedom of speech/thought which means we support the right of all sides to express their views.

Of note, there is a vast amount of information posted in the Love For Life website which we do not agree with but we leave it all up because we refuse to be biased, opinionated or self-centered/self-serving. Of the many thousands of comments posted over the years we have only removed posts containing secret links to commercial advertisements, terrible foul language, threats of violence and death, etc, and attacks on other people's characters that avoid the subject/debate at hand. Besides links to advertisements, we have taken down less than six comments due to the above. We usually leave everything up, all warts and all, even those posts threatening to do terrible things to Fiona, our children, our dogs, our friends, family & supporters, etc.

The Love For Life website has information from all sides on many subjects, whether about Islam, Judaism, Christianity, Law, health, psychology, mind control, vaccination, aspartame, MSG, Chemtrails etc. There are over 11,000 articles, documentaries etc on the website and they are so diverse that we are sure that everyone would be able to find something they loved and something they hated, if they took the time to search. If we removed all the articles hated by everyone, there would probably be nothing left! We are not anti anyone but freedom of speech is freedom of speech and no one should condemn the work of another without taking the time to research the subject themselves. Yes, there are articles by those who have a less-than-rosy-viewpoint of Judaism, but there are also articles on the dark side of Tibetan Buddhism (and it is very dark) for those who are interested in the truth: Tibet - Buddhism - Dalai Lama: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6271 Should the authors of these articles be abused and imprisoned for daring to challenge the widely conceived reputation of Buddhism as being the religion of peace and love and that of the Dalai Lama as a saint, or should those interested be allowed to study the work and come to their own conclusions? The same applies to all the articles, documentaries, etc, about Christianity, Islam, Freemasonry, New World Order, etc.

The Love for Life website also shows how the Rule of Law, the Bar, the Government, the Monarchy, the system of commerce, the local, national and multi/trans-national private corporations, all the courses and careers on offer from our universities, all the educators, scientists, academics and experts, the aristocrats and the Establishment bloodlines have also done NOTHING to end the suffering in the world. The website maps the insanity of a world where there is no help for those in need, just as there was no help available for us when we were victims of terrible bank fraud: "NSW Supreme Court Case - Macquarie Bank/Perpetual Limited vs Fiona Cristian - Victims Of Bank Fraud Condoned By Judges" http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5 (orchestrated, condoned and protected by an international crime syndicate/terrorist organisation of judges, barristers, registrars, lawyers, politicians, banksters, big business representatives, media moguls and other lackeys who, all together, put up a wall of silence despite our trying many, many avenues. After the family home was stolen and business destroyed we were left close to poverty and destitution caring for 4 young daughters. Three years later not much has changed regardless of all our efforts. Where were all the followers of all the religions to help us? Or do we have to be members of those religions to receive help from others involved in them?

The New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies accused us of being anti - Jewish, see: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6616 and http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6665 because we had posted an excerpt from James von Brun's book: Kill the Best Gentiles: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6054 in which he blames Jews for the problems of the world. Obviously this is not our view because of what we have stated above. We do not hate anyone, whatever religion they follow. We are always open to talk to any religious leader or politician and meet with any judge, member of the Bar, experts, academics, educators etc to share the remedy we offer that heals all the divisions between MAN and MAN, and MAN and the EARTH.

Today, a representative of the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies is threatening to close the website down, because they have decided it is anti - Jewish and that we promote racism. What has the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies done to end the suffering in the world? Can they show that they are concerned with the suffering of ALL men, women and children AND ARE SEEN TO BE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT or are they only concerned with Jewish affairs? If so, they, along with all the other religions that only care for their own, are part of the problem, not part of the solution. The man who rang Arthur today was only concerned with Jewish affairs; he was not interested in our intentions or in anybody else, just as most Christians, Muslims, Sikhs, Catholics, etc, are only interested in their own. While we separate ourselves into groups, dividing ourselves from others with rules, regulations, rituals, procedures and conditions, we will never solve our problems.

No matter what we in the Western World Civilisation of Commerce have been promised by our politicians, religious leaders, scientists, educators, philosophers, etc, for the past two hundred years, all we have seen is ever-increasing destruction of men, women and children and the earth. None of the so-called experts and leaders we have been taught to rely on are coming up with a solution and none of them are taking full-responsibility for the fact that they can't handle the problem. All religious books talk about end times full of destruction and suffering but why do we have to follow this program when there is an alternative to hatred, mayhem and death? Why are our leaders following the program of destruction and death rather than exploring the alternatives? It seems that any mainstream politician, priest or academic are only interested in supporting the RULES OF THE DIVIDE, that maintain the haves and the have nots. For 200+ years, 99% of the world population have been so trained to pass on their responsibility for themselves, others and the earth, that the 1% of the population that make up the leaders of the rest of us are making all the decisions leading to the destruction of all of us and the earth. Let's not forget the education system that brainwashes the 99% of the population that we are free and have equal rights while, in fact, we are feathering the nests of those at the top.

At the root of all our problems is self-centredness, an unwillingness nurtured by the Establishment that keeps us concerned only with our own needs rather than the needs of others around us and the Earth. Instead of creating and releasing acts of love for those around us as gifts to benefit them and the earth, we take, take and take, until there is nothing left. The whole point of the Love for Life website is to show people the root of all our problems and to share the remedy. The extensive research library is there to attract browsers and to provide access to information not available through mainstream channels. If the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies can, after careful examination of our work, prove that anything we are saying is wrong, we will be happy to accept their proof. If they cannot, and they are still insistent on closing the website down, they will be showing themselves to be traitors to MAN because they are not interested in pursuing any avenue that can end the suffering in the world.

All religions, corporations and organisations that support and maintain the Western World Civilisation of Commerce are part of the problem because our civilisation is a world of haves and have nots, racism, violence, hatred, poverty, sickness, discrimination, abuse, starvation, homelessness, corruption, collusion, vindictiveness, social unrest, arrogance, ignorance, fear, war and chaos. While we support civilisation, we support death and destruction because ALL civilisations that have ever existed are apocalyptic by design.

If we truly want peace on earth and freedom for all, we have to let go of all that which keeps us divided, and come together as MAN, conscious living co-creators of creation. The Love For Life website offers a remedy to the problems we all face in the form of DO NO HARM COMMUNITIES: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3641 For more details see here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6511 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 - We also highly recommend that everyone read the brilliant Russian books called The Ringing Cedars: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1125 - The Love For Life Website Homepage also provides lots of inspiring remedy based information: http://loveforlife.com.au - If you want to be kept up to date with our work please register to the Love For Life Mailing List here: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/09/05/14/mailing-list. We usually send two postings per month. Presently (September 2011) there are over 7000 registrations reaching over 500,000 readers across Earth. The website now (September 2011) receives up to 12 million hits per month. Since December 2006, over 100 million people have visited the Love For Life website.

Conscious Love Always
Arthur and Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
17th June 2009

The Cristian Family November 2006

Clarification Regarding Our Intentions
Behind The Use Of Donations

The Love For Life website is offered for free without a fee and without any conditions attached. If people are inspired to donate money, then we accept their gift and have provided an avenue for them to support the work we do through Fiona's Paypal or ANZ bank account http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8515. There is no obligation whatsoever to donate and all are equally welcome to our work and to our "time", whether they donate or not. Over the last 9 years, all the Love For Life work has been put out for free and it has often been donations from supporters that have enabled us to renew the domain name, etc, to keep the website going. While some complain that we have an avenue for donations, others complained when we didn't! Either use it or don't - the choice is yours.

Since Love For Life started March 2005 and website December 2006, Arthur has worked 16 hours a day, 7 days a week unpaid for much of this period, putting together the website and sharing insights to wake people up to what has been done to them, whether through the 11,500+ individual articles, videos, podcasts, debates, discussions, pdf's, research documents, etc, found amongst the 8,500+ posts, as well as helping many, many men and women over the phone, and through email, website correspondence, Facebook and YouTube, and creating the Love For Life food forest vege garden and Love For Life music recording studio. This is our life is a gift commitment to serve MAN/Nature/Earth but we are still severely compromised by "The System" and still have to give to Caesar what is claimed to belong to Caesar, which is where the donations help us.

Fiona & Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
21st July 2014