Max Igan & The Fraud Of The OPPT (One Peoples Public Trust) - Facebook Discussion With Arthur & Fiona Cristian 17-19th Feb 2013

The Cristian Family November 2006

Max Igan & The Fraud Of The OPPT
(One Peoples Public Trust)
Facebook Discussion With Arthur & Fiona Cristian
17th to 19th February 2013

Link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/168861396594454

Arthur Cristian

17th February 2013 - Sunday at 18:52

The One Peoples Public Trust (OPPT); we are saying that it is not a remedy. We have copied a discussion on another thread involving Max Igan, which may continue. If it does, we will keep posting it here as well.

Part One

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w344_hYuB6Y&list=PLiMTFp5iNlb8BePAjF_qkrB...

Part Two

Part Three

Part Four

Part Five

The link to the discussion with Max Igan: https://www.facebook.com/mai.k.hartvagzimbleman/posts/444883058914689

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

Debate continues below the three OPPT embedded videos we made after this debate.

OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
27th February 2013 onwards.....

Part One: http://youtu.be/Qjp_9nlrBao

Part Two: http://youtu.be/tbybeOWZ-Bc

Part Three: http://youtu.be/yOWoxH-HbVw

Part Four: coming
Part Five: coming

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Links to all discussions we've had with Max Igan can be found here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8359

Max Igan & The Fraud Of The OPPT (One Peoples Public Trust - 17th to 19th February 2013: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8422

OPPT Facebook Discussion Started By Gypsy Rob 20th February 2013: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8466

OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit - The Scam Of UCC And CVAC - 27th Feb 2013: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8421

Another Facebook Conversation Between Max Igan And Arthur & Fiona Cristian - 2nd July 2013: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8467

The Continuation Of The Max Igan Saga - 21st August 2013: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8478

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Tina van der Walt:

looks like Max Igan thinks OPPT is credible?

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Arthur Cristian

It's not a remedy - Just one tiny drop of black/grey into pure white and it's no longer pure white. Just one lie is sufficient to distort everything of truth. The Love For Life videos explain all this in great detail including the remedy.

http://youtu.be/4ze66_33wxM Video: Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath) - Part One, Two and Three - Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 8th February 2013. The main theme of this video is water, how we are water and everything we think, feel and do affects water. With this background, the video explores many areas of "The System" and how our addiction to and support of "The System" has catastrophic effects on the water of life. This video is over 3 hours long so we split it into 4 parts. The full version is also being uploaded. We notice that there are a few points that we touched on but didn't come back to; we will include them in Part Four to cover what we left out.

Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 8th February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8350
Part One: http://youtu.be/4ze66_33wxM - 70 Minutes 5 Seconds

Part Two: http://youtu.be/43gIi-sjxJc - 81 Minutes 13 Seconds

Part Three : http://youtu.be/oooY6W63K-M - 70 Minutes 18 Seconds

Part Four: coming

Refer below for the continuation of the information Arthur posted

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Arthur Cristian

From Bare Dirt To Abundance - A Year In The Life Of The Love For Life Food Forest - Arthur & Fiona Cristian - 8th February 2013. When we are all creating abundance, there is so much to share that there is no need for greed and selfishness anymore, no fear of not having what we need and no need for barter, commerce and contracts ("The System"). Taking Full-Responsibility For Our Lives, For Everything We Think, Feel & Do, All We Need Is A Small Piece Of Land To Care For Including Clean Water, Shelter And A Food Forest. The Issue Is Not Over-Population, The Issue Is Greed & Selfishness, Power, Control & Ignorance. There Is More Than Enough Room For Every Family To Have A Hectare Of Land To Care For. One Of The Keys To Our Mass Exodus From "The System" Is Raw, Living Food Because When We Eat This Way We Don't Need Vast Fields Of Wheat And Cattle. The Purer We Become In The Way We Eat, The Less We Need Mining, Large-Scale Agriculture, Transportation, Electricity, Gas, Petroleum And The Less We Produce Garbage So No More Landfills... The Benefits Go On And On And On Resolving ALL Our Problems. Best Of All, We Become Free, Free From Sickness, Free From Stress, Free From Brainwashing and Free from "The System"..... When Our Intention And Determination Is To Create Freedom, Truth, Peace, Joy, Abundance, No Loss Of Uniqueness/Originality And No Slaves And Rulers In The Lives Of Everyone And Everything Around Us, And This Is What We Live For, Then We Have It And We Are Living In Paradise. This Is The ONLY Way To Create Community/Family. What A Contrast To "The System" Where We Are Taught To Live For Our-Selves, To "Look Out For No. 1".

"From Bare Dirt To Abundance"
A Year In The Life Of The
Love For Life Food Forest

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
8th February 2013
51 Minutes 46 Seconds
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8352
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A

Refer below for the continuation of the information Arthur posted

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Note: We have removed the post containing all the links to Love For Life articles, videos, debates, discussions, etc, to the bottom of this thread.

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

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Max Igan

Actually Arthur, Ive looked at it and it would appear that it is indeed a remedy and not only that but its already signed and sealed. Theres nothing to sign up for, no movement to join and nothing you need to do. All it means is that people now have two options. One is to stand in your power, free and answerable only to the creator, the other is continue participating in the slavery system. The choice is up to the individual.

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Arthur Cristian

This supposed remedy is still "The System under another guise Max, we looked into it as well when they first came up with it and asked us to take a look at it. To us, any version of "The System" is not a remedy. Though there maybe good intentions behind the makers of this document they are either naive, or are being misled or are blatantly lying to everyone when claims of a remedy are being made. It most definitely is NOT a remedy. Lets put it to the test of scrutiny. Would you like to debate about this?

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Max Igan

Well Arthur, in regard to Mankind, and our little place in the universe, ultimately the system itself, the UCC and everything about it is fiction as, in reality, all there really is, is the creator, us, the earth and the creatures it's ecosystems supports, everything else is fiction - we made the whole thing up... and Ive been standing in that one truth for quite some time. But for those who are locked into left brain and who will only ever feel free if they see it on paper, this appears very much to be remedy as it frees man using the same system that has been used to enslave them, and by the use of its very own rulebook to do so, because in this world, everything that is man made fiction, every business, every bank, every country, every state and every corporate entity comes under the UCC. And if this filing is seen to be invalid then so is the UCC and so is the system. Im still looking into it but at the moment, I cant find a flaw in the logic or in the filing. ... To be honest though brother, when I talk to you there is an issue at the back of my mind that always nags me and I will simply not be able to converse with you on an even keel until it is addressed so if we are going to debate anything, if I may be so bold, Id like to first talk about the time Anastasia from the Ringing Cedars series came to australia to visit you... Why? well, because its an issue for me brother... Why is it an issue for me? Well, because as you yourself have stated: "Just one tiny drop of black/grey into pure white and it's no longer pure white. Just one lie is sufficient to distort everything of truth.."

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Arthur Cristian

Hi Max, this is Arthur & Fiona writing here. Then we are off to have our rest. We don't ask anyone to believe in such a direct experience and do not depend on others believing it to give us some kind of standing. We have not turned this experience into a cult or sect or a following of any sort, nor have we used it to take advantage of others by commercializing a business venture/enterprise from such an experience. We are all unique not one the same as the next. Arthur's direct experience of being woken up by Anastasia "one early morning back in 2007" is Arthur's unique experience.

Have you not had any unique direct experiences?

Does Arthur's direct experience of Anastasia make him less of a MAN than another MAN who may or may not have had a direct experience?

All we have done is shared the experience and moved on.

Is there something wrong with that?

Arthur can have a direct experience with a tree but he doesn't want you to believe in that experience; he want's you to go and have a direct experience with the tree. All Arthur did was say to Anastasia, when he went to bed after first reading the books, "If this is true and we have a connection, you have his permission to contact him/visit him." and then later he was woken up by a very strong voice with a Russian like accent saying loudly, "Hello".Arthur was startled and sat up in bed and said "What do you want?" Then he started laughing and went back to rest. That was it, nothing more, nothing less. Yes, Anastasia was an inspiration of that "time" but neither of us live our lives out of such an experience, instead we use it ONLY as a reference point and move on. We don't "own" it, we don't make a claim over "intellectual property". We refuse to live our lives exclusively out of the image of another MAN.

Max, are you trying to circumscribe Arthur into an image of your expectation, of your ownership, of your claim, of your power?

What is the information that you are sitting on that is bugging you?

The "Steps Of Kindom" remedy we are sharing was partially inspired by Vladimir Megre's Ringing Cedars books because the idea of every family caring for a hectare of land to take FULL-responsibility for is sensible and workable and means there is enough room for all of us/MAN to have the space we need to take care of the land and of our families, and through peaceful contemplation create unique do no harm thoughts and dreams.

We don't carry the image of Anastasia before us in the way that Christians carry the image of Jesus before them. She is not our shield nor is she a centre of intellectual property - we do not worship her. In fact, we have been using senses and scrutinising information coming from everywhere to come up with the vast array of insights that we share in the body of the Love For Life work (videos, articles, debates/discussions/etc) so we don't need to live our lives out of Anastasia, or anyone/anything else. We live for having unique thoughts/images and unique lives.

We are determined, as we keep learning and through practice to remove more and more of the re-presentation of intellectual property from our lives and communication as in "Mankind" and "our little place in the Universe".

Can you bring forward the Universe to back the claim that we have "a little place" in it?

We do not expect anyone to live their lives out of Arthur's experience with Anastasia; we have shared it and moved on. Do you expect people to live their lives out of your claim about our "little place in the Universe"?

When it comes to the Love For Life work, the buck stops with us; we take full responsibility for everything we say, write and do. Anastasia is not a cop out for us, she is not a third party in our affairs, in our lives, in our relationships for others to deal with. She is not an "Alice in Wonderland" that we are trying to re-present.

We are determined to inspire and honour the uniqueness out of every man, woman and child's making, not to have them "fit" under the "Oneness" glue that "The One People's Public Trust" would have us moulded into. Who is the power, the authority that they are serving the non-sense papers to? Who are they answerable to and who are they claiming that we are all answerable to? Who gives them the authority to re-present every man, woman and child? Are we not all unique? Do we not have free will? Is the claimed Force going to go away now? Do these pieces of paper suddenly have the power of life, of MAN? You say, ".....if this filing is seen to be invalid then so is the UCC and so is the system." Of course they are invalid because they have nothing to do with the sensory dream of life. They are not sensory and have no life to offer life.

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Max Igan

In regards to this topic I dont really see the relevence of 90% of what was just written, but suffice to say that what bugs me is that Arthur told me that Anastasia came to Australia to visit him... that was the last time I spoke to him... because I simply do not believe it.

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Max Igan

if you look at the oppt, it doesnt claim to represent anyone. It simply offers them a way out via the methodology I previously explained. The choice of whether to take it or to remain part of the slavery system is their own.

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Max Igan

and I have no ownership and make no claim of power over anything or anyone but myself.

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Arthur Cristian

Hi Max, your comment was about whether Anastasia visited Arthur - this was what the reply was mainly about. You say you don't believe it. So what? We don't ask anyone to believe what we say, only to think about what we say/share and to use their brains/senses/scrutiny to work things out in their unique way. Arthur never said that Anastasia came to Australia, as in by plane or ship or physically moving her body, if this is what you are implying. What he said, as written on the website back in 2007 and still up now, is that he, on the land of "Australia" was woken up by her presence, her voice. This was his experience, take it or leave it, believe it or not, and is exactly what Arthur shared with you and others he spoke to about it. Why are you bringing this topic up anyway, when it is such a minor, tiny part of what we are about? Has the sharing of this experience done any harm to you or anyone? If so, can you show us the incontrovertible evidence of this harm, and we are not talking about your belief here because that is not evidence but is fantasy that is a lie?

Max, is this an attempt to thwart the topic of the thread by attacking Arthur's character by making out that he is a liar? Wasn't this thread about the fact that we are saying that the OPPT is not a remedy. What has Anastasia visiting Arthur got to do with any of this? The Love For Life videos, articles and debates that we have been posting since October 2011, clearly demonstrate why the OPPT is a fraud. Do your homework, or do we have to repeat everything essential here?

We do not see the remedy the OPPT are offering. Here lies the lie. What is the document for if it does not show us the remedy to our current lives of Hell that is "The System". So this document has been presented but what are we all doing still? Are we not still getting out of bed, driving our cars, going to work, using electricity, gas, etc, paying taxes, consuming, consuming, consuming while Earth dies around us, while people still perform as politicians, as Police Officers, as armies, as private corporations, etc, etc. Has the commerce stopped? .......LOL...... X 50. This clearly shows the absurdity of the OPPT and anything similar.

Has the FORCE of "The System" put down its weapons and gone home? Are we now free to live on the land, undisturbed and un-harassed by the re-presentatives of "The System"?

You say they are offering a way out but what are they offering a way out of?

Are they offering a way out of the obligations of "The System" while still wanting to collect the benefits of "The System"?

Do they need a force of "Good Guys" to protect them while they provide the administrative services of the OPPT, meaning the services and protection of all the claims of intellectual property superimposed over land, etc.? If there isn't any of this, then what is the point of the document? If no one is making a claim of ownership over land anymore then there is nothing to lose and nothing to fight for and nothing to be in fear of because we already have everything and there is no harm being caused to any man, woman or child. We don't need a man-made system! BUT, if people are still making intellectual property claims superimposed over land, and those behind the OPPT and others supporting the OPPT know this, then they know that the people with the claims need a system to protect their claims and provide order. So they have to give their power away to an authority and again we are back to square one, back to the gradualism of MAN's descent into abuse by the power of authority that has been developed to allow the continuation of that power and control.

This then leads to the fact that we are all the descendants of the men and women of tribes of MAN all across Earth, our ancestors, who were invaded and decimated by the power of those behind "The System" to maintain that power and control across the generations to come, us, through govern(men)t, constitution (con-stitch-u-on), democracy (de-mock-race), etc. Prior to the invasion, this system of govern(men)t and everything that comes with it, was not on this land we are standing on. In their records, it has only been here since the late 1700s, yet we are given the impression that it is eternal and that we cannot live without it or escape it. Again we have the absurdity of the small "time" frame of total control by "The System" over MAN in contrast to the vastness of the ways of tribal life of MAN without "The System". And let's not rely on their recorded His-story either, because we know we cannot trust that.

Under the OPPT, what happens to all the men, women and particularly the children - are they still being brainwashed into the conditioning that has them under-stand the con-cept of "The System" Wonderland with all its workings and accept, maintain and comply to "The System", even if it is a "new" system". Are they not still the cogs in the wheels turning the machine? How does our way of life change under the OPPT? Show us the evidence that people are moving away from "The System" because of the impact of this document.

Is this document based on belief?

Is anything else required?

Or is this another "Jesus"; we no longer have anything to worry about because Jesus, or the OPPT or the Galactic Federation or Nesara is coming to take care of everything? Sit back and relax now, everyone, with your belief by your side, comforting you in these dark times.

Who is taking full responsibility in present sense to make sure that the harm stops? If people are taking full-responsibility to stop the harm being set into motion in all its forms, where is the mass exodus from "The System" of harm? If it is just another feel-good/feel-God/Creator version of "The System", then this is just a continuation of the same garbage, of men, women and children giving up full-responsibility for their lives because they are under the influence of other men and women telling them how to think, feel and act. How can anyone take full-responsibility for their lives when they are under limited liability because they have other men and women making decisions about their lives. This is not freedom. Anything less than freedom is not freedom and is a lie which is what "The System" of govern(men)t is all about, be it spiritual, divine or not.

If the OPPT is not about moving away from "The System", then it is not a remedy and everyone supporting it is supporting a lie and the enslavement of those around them. Do you support this document, as you appear to be saying? If you do, you are part of the problem and supporting a lie too because you don't want MAN to remember who we really are. Again, refer to the Love For Life work for the bigger picture (we will post the links below) and get back to us to let us know where you stand. You have a big responsibility to ensure that what you are promoting is not a lie because you have an influence over people. Is this not why you do what you do, just as we do what we do?

You talk about the "methodology", using "The System's" rules, regulations, mathematics and languages and all the images that come from the education, media, etc. of "The System" to free us from "The System". If people need to see that they are free on a piece of paper to believe that they are free, then they have not woken up because, if they had, they would know that no piece of paper can ever set them free. Are we going to take the OPPT round to Harold and Mary watching TV and say, "Look Harold and Mary, you are now free!"? How are their lives going to change if they have not done the thinking, do not realise that they are not free and do not have the intention to be free? If we do not take full responsibility for our freedom, we are not free.

Most people have no desire to have power and control over others and therefore are not interested in being part of govern(men)t, which works very well for the few who DO want power and control over others. And then again, most people are too distracted and busy just trying to keep the roof over the heads of their families and the food on the table to really think about what is going on and why.

You say you make no claim and have no ownership over anything but you have made a claim. You are questioning Arthur's integrity, re-presenting him, making out that what you are saying is the truth about/in Arthur's life. Why should you doubt that experience? Were you present, in that room, to that experience? Are you practising the craft of black magic as in remote viewing? Do you have an all-seeing-eye? Fiona was present in the room but she was asleep and didn't wake up; does that mean the experience didn't happen? She doesn't KNOW if it happened or not but this does not mean she has to question Arthur's integrity and say that it didn't happen. As we said last night, this experience has not been used as a basis for our work or for the remedy we offer. It has no influence at all on what we are sharing, so where is the harm? We back, with full-responsibility, the remedy "The Steps Of Kindom" and are happy for others to debate with us and scrutinise. We go where the sensory logic of truth takes us and, if someone presents us with a do no harm remedy that is better than "The Steps Of Kindom", we will happily focus all our energy there.

The remedy we offer provides freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance and do no harm for all of life without causing loss of uniqueness/originality for everyone and everything and without the need for slaves and rulers. Does OPPT provide this? What are the practical steps it offers to achieve this do no harm way of life? Is this not what you dream for, and what everyone else dreams for? Why would anyone not want freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance and do no harm for all of life without causing loss of uniqueness/originality for everyone and everything and without the need for slaves and rulers? Anything less than that is a continuation of the present chaos = "The System"..

We came across one of your comments, mid-last year or so, where you said, or what we comprehended you said, that you supported the Australian Constitution and the society that is built around that, and that you stand by the laws that uphold that society. "Society" is a Freemasonic/Satanic invention, as is the Australian Constitution, i.e. it is "The System" that is causing the "wanton destruction" (quote) you are deploring on your website. Unless you have retracted that view, you are no different to Robert Arthur Mennard who says he is not "anti-government" but "pro-good government". But govern(men)t of ANY sort, a man-made system of ANY sort can only exist with slaves and rulers, power and control and loss of uniqueness/originality for all those conditioned into being 'system slave cogs". Why would you support that? This is not an attack on the living-sensory MAN you are because we don't know you, don't even know your real name and our only sensory experience of you is a phone call between you and Arthur some years ago.

"The System" is the same system that invaded these lands and decimated the tribes of MAN on the land before introducing the brainwashing of the education system, the legal system, the languages, the medicine, the mathematics and geometry with its commerce, etc, etc, in short, everything of "The System" today. They also brought over captive (deceived/conned/seduced) men and women who had already been brainwashed into "The System" to completely take over this land, which they have done very successfully. This is all Freemasonic/Satanic engineering, as is the Con-stitution, the govern-men-t, all the things you support. You are revealing facts about the darkside of "The System" but you seem to want to replace it with another version of "The System" which is only there to continue the enslavement of all the descendants of captured ancestors.You don't appear to have a remedy to get us out of this mess and you are promoting a document that doesn't have a remedy either (freedom, truth, etc...as above). We cover the ground of this in the videos we have been posting since at last October 2011. Do you homework and see if you can find fault in what we are saying in the remedy that we are sharing to fix all these problems that you expose on your website. If you can find fault, we are happy to hear how and why because we are always keen to improve anything that needs it.

Arthur & Fiona Cristian

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Max Igan

There is no way that I have time to read all that waffle Arthur, reduce it to a simple paragraph and Im all yours... but suffice to say that the more I look into the oppt the more I see clear remedy that has already been established, the type of remedy that will actually allow people to build kindomains unfettered by commerce.... In fact the majority of people I see who are apposed to it, seem those who are attempting to sell freedom to the masses and who may be in danger of losing their revenue streams... Ive even shown it to a local Judge who is a friend of the property owner and he said it is the real deal... As I said anyway, the oppt is already in place, the choice as to whether people wish to use it or whether they wish to continue in the slavery system is theirs alone to make. Im not attacking anyone here I just trust my intuition and yes, when I spoke to Arthur in Febuary 2010 he told me that he met Anastasia, when I asked how, he said she came to australia to visit him and I have felt uneasy about engagement with him ever since... I can probably even dig up the audio file of the conversation if I look. Take care and I wish you well.

Sunday at 22:44

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Arthur Cristian

So the FORCE of "The System" is going to look at this piece of paper and walk away and those behind "The System" will say, "OK, our time's up, over to you guys, here's your freedom"? After the mega-millions they have massacred, after Hiroshima and Nagasaki, after the 1st and 2nd World Wars and all the other wars and genocides, and all the chemical, poison and microwave attacks, and after all the rape, pillage and plunder, they are going to suddenly stop and stand aside, giving up all their privileges, exclusivity, power and control and everything their ancestors strived for. The list can obviously go on and on and on. And they will leave everyone involved alone. We don't know how many times we have been shown or told about paperwork that is said to be the real deal, that has been endorsed by a legal figure (in your case, a local judge), and filed or whatever and yet we see no changes around us, no freedom, no paradise. Paperwork will never give us freedom - only we will set our lives free through our thoughts, feelings, and actions. Which means withdraw, withdraw, withdraw and SUPPORT each other.

If you can't be bothered to read what we say, when all we have done is address your points and set things out clearly, then why enter into discussion with us in the first place? You have started a discussion with us but you are not willing to really explore the issues at hand or face the questions asked. If we all operate with such closed doors, we will never learn from each other and never be able to truly scrutinise what we think and feel. And feel free to dig out the audio file. We have nothing to hide. Did Arthur say Anastasia came physically by plane, by ship, by train, by car, by bicycle? Again, why the emphasis on this when it has very little to do with our work? Are you trying to start a controversy where there isn't one? All the best, Max - Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life

Sunday at 22:44

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Max Igan - wow, you really just dont get it at all do you.... get out of that left brain brother, theres a whole other side of reality your missing... take care.

Sunday at 22:55

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Arthur Cristian

What, the dark-side of non-sense? Back your claims Max. You can't be bothered to engage with us to find out what we really think and feel so, unless you have been studying all our work and comprehending it, how do you know what we know or don't know and sense? By the way you are/have been talking/writing to both of us, Fiona and Arthur. Also, bring forward "left", the first party, to back your claim.

Sunday at 22:55

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Gary Carlyle Cook

whats your problem with it. in one sentence?

23 hours ago

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Jeremy Spencer

The link to the discussion with Max Igan: https://www.facebook.com/mai.k.hartvagzimbleman/posts/444883058914689
This link doesn't work, 'page not found'. Why are you posting all this?

22 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

Gary, use your brain/senses, scrutinise ALL information shared all-around. Belief is not evidence of fact, instead it is fantasy, illusion and delusion. If the OPPT was working then it suits the FORCE behind "The System" and their long-term agenda. If FORCE was moving aside it's because they were INSTRUCTED to do so. WHO IS THIS POWER THAT CAN CAUSE THIS TO HAPPEN? Whose "law" is it? Whose Courts"? Whose Barristers? Whose Judges? Whose Lawyers? Whose Government? Whose Politicians? Whose languages? Whose Commerce"? Whose Copyright Of "Intellectual Property"? Whose His-Story? Whose Police FORCE? Whose Armies, Navies, etc? Whose Civilisation? Whose Nations? Whose Money? Whose Banks? Whose "SYSTEM"? Whose Religions? etc etc etc etc etc etc...... WHO ARE THEY ALL ANSWERABLE TO? WHO IS THEIR MASTER? Remember, All Men Are Equal. No MAN Is Master Of Another MAN.

Max Igan said this

"Actually Arthur, Ive looked at it and it would appear that it is indeed a remedy and not only that but its already signed and sealed. Theres nothing to sign up for, no movement to join and nothing you need to do. All it means is that people now have two options. One is to stand in your power, free and answerable only to the creator, the other is continue participating in the slavery system. The choice is up to the individual."

and then he said this:

"if you look at the oppt, it doesnt claim to represent anyone. It simply offers them a way out via the methodology I previously explained. The choice of whether to take it or to remain part of the slavery system is their own."

and he said this earlier in the discussion:

"Well Arthur, in regard to Mankind, and our little place in the universe, ultimately the system itself, the UCC and everything about it is fiction as, in reality, all there really is, is the creator, us, the earth and the creatures it's ecosystems supports, everything else is fiction - we made the whole thing up... and Ive been standing in that one truth for quite some time. But for those who are locked into left brain and who will only ever feel free if they see it on paper, this appears very much to be remedy as it frees man using the same system that has been used to enslave them, and by the use of its very own rulebook to do so, because in this world, everything that is man made fiction, every business, every bank, every country, every state and every corporate entity comes under the UCC. And if this filing is seen to be invalid then so is the UCC and so is the system. Im still looking into it but at the moment, I cant find a flaw in the logic or in the filing. ..."

and then he said this earlier too:

"but suffice to say that the more I look into the oppt the more I see clear remedy that has already been established, the type of remedy that will actually allow people to build kindomains unfettered by commerce.... In fact the majority of people I see who are apposed to it, seem those who are attempting to sell freedom to the masses and who may be in danger of losing their revenue streams... Ive even shown it to a local Judge who is a friend of the property owner and he said it is the real deal... As I said anyway, the oppt is already in place, the choice as to whether people wish to use it or whether they wish to continue in the slavery system is theirs alone to make."

Can you sense/see the contradiction?

AND

Who is this creator that Max is referring to?

Whose "ONEness" is he referring to?

ALL FORMS OF MONOTHEISM ARE AT THE CORE OF SATANIC/PAGAN/FREEMASONIC "PRACTICES"!

Anyone who gets sucked into this scam is seriously being misled.

What happened to FREE-WILL?

WHO IS MAX IGAN'S MASTER (CREATOR) HE IS REFERRING TO?

All Satanists/Pagans/Freemasons worship ONE CREATOR and that ONE creator is the Grand Architect of "The System", the founding father of "The System" and the father of all the Freemasons/Founding-Fathers of America, Australia, etc...... This nutter they are worshiping is known as Zeus, Ahriman, Moloch, Baal, Satan, Odin, etc, etc....

The number one is finite, it has a beginning and an end. This tells you everything about their lies. They are ALL LIARS.

We can tell you all now that none of them can bring forward this creator, 1st party to 1st party, to back their claims and if they ever tried to do so they can ONLY bring forward a MAN re-presenting this power, regardless if genetic-manipulation was involved or not, turning them into something more than MAN. If they ever try this bullshit then we will be asking this POWER to move that mountain range from here to over there...etc.

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Brett Anderson

Max Igan's rhetoric always sounds good but his remedy always leads back into the system. I dropped him a year or two ago when he started promoting Ron Paul, I just can't fathom how anyone else could fall for that shit but there he is, all over it.

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Arthur Cristian

Hi Brett and others. Have just edited the last of our posts above, have included more info. .

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Rohan Murch

I think I get what Arthur is trying to say, I think. That the UCC system itself is still the core of the OPPT procedure and therefore "the system" is still involved or in control.

I can understand some people concerned about that link. This is the way I see it from what i can gather, the UCC is just a tool, 'their' tool, and the UCC has absolutely no power or authority over me and it is not replacing government. This is just basically using their system and their ways against them, using the same system that has been at the core of our enslavery and throwing a spanner in the works, so to speak.

To put it Arthur's way, the UCC filings are still non-sense to to our reality, but to the elites its the core of their system. We are not staying in their system, just signing off with some paperwork to complete their paper-trail, and now we're all going outside to play in the sun.

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Arthur Cristian

How can any MAN play freely in the sun when there are millions of us still claiming ownership over land, etc???? To claim ownership is to have a "System" to protect that claim and therefore we are back to square one again trapped in "The System".

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Arthur Cristian

Have included more info in the larger post above Brett's. We may include a bit more. We are just reading it over again.

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Ian Schofield

in my opinion oppt provides the final move in the chess game, simply by using the system to change the rules governing a piece of it so that it can move unburdened by restrictions placed on it by the system....people are free to choose to continue to play if they wish but the game is over as far as the rulebook is concerned

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Rohan Murch

There are millions who are yet to learn what the OPPT UCC filings have done, it may take many months for the full ramifications to rise to the surface.

We are still a common law jurisdiction, so there is a system still protecting us all and providing us remedy and redress. There will always be something one could point at and call "the system", but if it is working for and by us, and not against us, then it is not "the system" of old.

If you think about it Arthur, no matter what outcome we as a peoples reach, there will always be someone who can describe it as "coming to together as one" or something along those lines, oneness. If your idea of kindoms came to reality and someone described it as "we are all one" would it be fair to say kindoms are part of the new world order and are the old system etc etc. of course not!

"System" is a rather generic term and could easily be used to explain your idea of kindoms, or my idea of individuals freedoms and responsibilities and nothing higher but God, people could call that a system.

To be frank Arthur I feel sometimes you use the word "system" to loosely. I feel that "the system" only refers to a machine that has been designed to deceive and control us and make us believe we are free, "the system" in my mind is a well designed social engineering tool that may suck wealth or other nasties but at its core it is dominating and deceiving and dehumanising.

If we dont apply the definition of "the system" strictly, then we would be running around calling everything "the system" without due diligence and we would all end up living in dark caves hiding from everything thats "the system". One could call nature and the universal laws of physics a "system", and on a technical point they would be correct, but it is not part of "the system" we are working to bring down.

22 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

There is a vast difference between SENSE and NON-SENSE. If you haven't put the effort in to learn how this applies you will continue being trapped by NON-SENSE believing it is SENSE (truth), etc.

22 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

In whose image are you performing/re-presenting the OPPT or the UCC????? Are they unique/original thoughts you have created or are they implants of "brain-control"? Who is benefiting out of this long-term? Refer to the many points we raised with Max Igan. They are all posted in this thread. If you follow the OPPT you are all admitting to being SHEEP following the ONE in front!

22 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

Joe, what is there to hope for when you already have everything? Do you need to jump 10 feet across a room to grab your next breath?

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Arthur Cristian

Rohan, there is a MASSIVE difference between WHOLENESS and ONENESS. Kindom is whole not one = sameness. In whose image do you use your free will????? YOUR LIFE. Do you comprehend what is really going on here???? The UCC is of the TALMUD and what do you think the OPPT is derived from? Who is collecting all the "names", etc, registered to "The System" when filling the OPPT????? What are they going to do with it? There is so much more to all of this.....

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Arthur Cristian

The New World Order is not the current chaos with ALL its harm. The NWO is the remedy to this Freemasonic/Satanic engineered chaos implemented by the "Bad Guys". For "years" we have been warning everyone that the NWO will be ushered in by the "Good Guys" who work together with the "Bad Guys". The NWO is the prophesied "1000 year golden reign". The NWO will come smelling like roses, all debts will be wavered, all wars will be stopped, all chaos ended, etc, etc, etc....

Enter dead-corpse instruments like the OPPT.

Who has the power to STOP all this when billions of men, women and children have no power in "The System" to stop it, they are too busy being the cogs in the wheels of "The System", too distracted. They are ALL relying on someone to act on their behalf? What happened to their free-will. Who is this power that can STOP "The System" machine dead in it's tracks, a dead-corpse fiction that can't create sensory life, that can't walk, talk, think, feel, poo, wee, negotiate, contract, contemplate, etc...

We've written so much about this deception already and have posted videos where we discuss this deception. Again, in whose image are you in? Do you realise you are giving this ONE power the "right" to act on your names behalf to use its ONE-FORCE as it so chooses to do so, no matter what, to clear the way for the entry of their ONE-NWO? How many millions/billions are you agreeing to be murdered in the name of the NWO??? This is all black-magic deception. You are all being deceived. You are complying with them, giving them authority to ACT. The Satanic/Freemasonic agenda needs your permission to ACT, to implement the changes.

Do you really believe that they will provide you with FULL-DISCLOSURE????

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Brett Anderson

A good idea of how the NWO will be ushered in is the Zeitgeist movement and the Venus project, all wrapped up in a pretty bow but underneath it all is a cold and ruthless system just like the last but less obvious.

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Arthur Cristian

Agreed, we have just posted more info in our last post above, Please read it again.

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Rohan Murch

Arthur, I understand you dont mean 'oneness' when you talk about kindoms. I have listen to 4x 90min long interviews with the OPPT team so far and I nave never heard them talk about 'oneness', exactly the opposite, same as you. All of their paperwork and doings have been completely open and transparent. My example was how easy an outsider to your inner workings of kindoms could innocently describe it as "coming together as one to fight the system" or something similar, and then be labelled 'the system'. I think you have jumped onto a similar conclusion with OPPT before you have listened to what they say and read the filing and understood the ramifications and the 'non-oneness' this movement is really about.

Ive been going over OPPT filings and notices with a fine tooth comb, and have found no fault so far. To be honest when I first heard of it I thought it was bullshit, another flavour-of-the-month freeman ucc redemption method etc, but after some serious study I found it to be legit, well so far anyway. Give it the benefit of the doubt for a moment and listen/read what the team have to say.

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Arthur Cristian

The OPPT is a dead-corpse, the UCC is a dead-corpse. All fictions are dead-corpses. "The System" is a dead-corpse and everything of it is dead too, this includes their God (creator) and "oneness".They cannot bring them forward as a sensory first party to back their claims. They can only re-present/act/perform on behalf of the dead-fiction/dead-corpse. All Satanists/Pagans/Freemasons worship the dead? People filing the OPPT are presently dead to sense, they are lost under the spells (images) of non-sense following the dead (one) in-front, The dead are all lining up following the dead out front. All is dead all-around. This clearly tells you, shows you what is really going on.

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Arthur Cristian

Rohan, you just wasted all your real life going over something dead...... Where is the REAL SENSORY MAN in all of this. You are going down the yellow brick road that is a "spell" mate. Where is your SENSE????

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Rohan Murch

Just because I may choose to use a tool, that tool does not define who I am. Fight fire with fire Arthur, yes the system is dead and non-sense, but because I chose to pick up a pen and use it as a sword does not redefine who I am, it just gives the powers that be something they can understand in their own language.

I know as we all do that silly bits of paper do not give us freedom and between us, the earth and the universe the UCC and papers and worthless. I get it I really do. I see this as more of a honourable courtesy to them in their own words and their own laws, saying thanks, but no thanks.

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Rohan Murch

Another way to look at it; yes their world is all fiction, fictional currency fictional government fictional crisis's etc. All they see is fiction and to them its the real world (the power of perspective in one's reality), the OPPT are using fictional tools to get the attention of fictional entities and to communicate with these fiction entities in a language and method they can see and touch and understand. Just to make it perfectly clear and comprehensible to them.

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Arthur Cristian

Using non-sense to deal with non-sense still does not make/create sense. Rohan, we love you lots mate, you are a beautiful soul. We have known you long enough to say this now, and its very clear you are not taking anything of what we are saying/sharing "personally". Good on you for that. All we ask is that you use your senses and with scrutiny work things out to sense/see what is really going on here.

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Arthur Cristian

Rohan, the Bible was ALL transparent yet hardly anyone saw the hidden codes??? Same with the New World Language called "English", it is transparent yet hardly anyone saw the hidden codes. Most of the buildings in cities and suburbs are transparent but very few saw the hidden codes. Can you see the hidden codes in the OPPT, its all transparent? Max Igan appears to be transparent but can you see his hidden agenda?

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Arthur Cristian

@ Jeremy, apologies for not replying sooner, we just saw your post. This link works: The link to the discussion with Max Igan: https://www.facebook.com/mai.k.hartvagzimbleman/posts/444883058914689 - It goes back to the FB wall of Mai Kari Hartvag Zimbleman: https://www.facebook.com/mai.k.hartvagzimbleman - maybe you have to be her FB friend to view this thread. Anyway all of that thread discussion is posted in this thread discussion.

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Ivan Alan Traveler

hmmm, this is a very interesting discussion. Here in the country of California or any other state/country we men and women have the right to declare our allegiance to the government of our choosing. And in doing so choose the jurisdiction and law that will be applied. Now, most do not know that the form of government in the U.S. is not the original and that it was installed by force after the civil war.

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Arthur Cristian

@ Rohan; Using the tools of "The System" does define us as still being lost; if we weren't we would know how to do what we need to do without using the prosthetics of "The System". We are all compromised and our compromises mean that we still accept and support "The System" because we are still using their money, their roads, their computers, their pens, etc. Just by using their money, we are accepting the WHOLE of "The System" because we are complying. You put your toe into the ocean, you are touching the whole of the ocean.

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Ivan Alan Traveler

paper is how they birth us and paper may free us... but first you have to know you are free and that everything you do is freeing! as long as what you do is harmless.

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Terry Wrist

Hi and respect to all working towards remedy and freedom. I am a Freeman and have been active with the WFS. I am also in NZ. Does UCC come into effect because of the registered company at the SEC in America? Because I cannot find any reference of UCC here in any legislation or codes here in NZ. Not that they don't exist, I just haven't found it.
Re OPPT etc, I am still researching and absorbing the info. A lot resonates with me, but then again, as much doesn't.

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Arthur Cristian

@Rohan; So we have signed off from "The System" and we are going out to play in the sun. So you are no longer renting or paying off a mortgage? You now have an independent source of water, food and power? You are now living free from the obligations of "The System"? Sounds great - please let us know where this is happening so that we can come and join the fun! And how about all those who don't know about the OPPT and are still struggling in "The System", still being victims of abuse, etc. Are we going to keep worrying about them while we are playing in the sun? What about all the people, hundreds of millions, who have been devastated by the rape, pillage and plunder machines of "The System" one way or another? Do they get their homes back, land, etc. Many of them are older people who can't start all over again.

How is the OPPT taking responsibility to clean up the mess we have ALL created? What happens to all the private corporations that now own the land that was once home to over 500,000 farming families and control all the food supplies and all the services that come into your life? Are they all going to stop now and go and play in the sun too? Does being in the OPPT mean that we can continue being self-centred because we have got "our" freedom when others haven't. The OPPT is OF "The System" and FOR "The System".

As we said to Max Igan last night this is not the first "amazing" document that we have come across that is supposed to be changing everything, giving us our freedom. We are still waiting for them all to take effect. So far there has been no sign of any change. Now we are back in supposed common law jurisdiction, still in "The System", where harm/lies continue to spread. Now we are in a world where the OPPT have filed their papers. Wait a minute......., hang on a bit more....................... gives it another day or so..... still nothing happening. Just a piece of paper sitting in a file somewhere. Sounds like a great stalling tactic - those holding their breath for the OPPT document to take effect are kept busy while those behind "The System" keep the wheels of their machine turning.

Who benefits?

And who benefits when it is all thrown back in their faces and we are given the message that there is nothing that can be done, as has happened on so many occasions, causing the faint hearted to give up and the lion hearted to delve further into "The System" to look for a remedy to "The System". As we have said many, many, many times before, we are the only ones who can free our lives from "The System" and the only way to do that is to withdraw, withdraw as much as we can, bit by bit, until there is no more of "The System" in our lives. Hence The Steps Of Kindom remedy.

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Arthur Cristian

Processing and Filing paper-work is a dead process. By processing and filing paper like the OPPT you are admitting to be of and for the dead world. You have further forged your bonds with HELL, "The System". With your life you are giving FORCE the power with your life and the rights with your life to execute their administrative will upon all their subjects....... note: "English" is a subject! If you are serious about withdrawing from Hell then do what Arthur did, stop renting/using the administrators copyrighted "Intellectual Property" which you do when you dabble your toes in to the ocean of "The System". Once you use the "drivers license", "car rego", "medicare", "credit card", "bank accounts", etc, you are claimed by hell and are bonded. Copy/pasted from another post last week:

The BOND IS the encapsulation of a CURSE! Those in the know DO NOT HANDLE MONEY because money is the current(cy) where the vessel, the curse, the cursed, is sailing (being processed) over the seas (sees) of commerce/finance, "The System", by ALL the captured sinners enslaved to this Freemasonic/Satanic BOND. Nothing else is going on. This is how the duped are giving their real sensory lives away, destroying who they really are and what they are really part of for a fantasy and an illusion. They are forgetting who they really are and what they are really part of.

All bounded by/to this bond, encapsulated by the "Name" (the intellectual property, the shadow/reflection of the living-sensory song of MAN they are re-presenting) ARE COMMITTING SPIRITUAL SUICIDE. Presently, they are ALL too distracted to sense it. Greed and selfishness blind them as does self-centeredness and the setting into motion of all other negative-destructive emotions (shadows) like arrogance, ignorance, fear, loneliness, distrust, emptiness, directionless, power and control trips, illusion, delusion, fantasy, lies, etc, etc.

All the prisoners (the sinners/cursed) to this bond bear the effects/imprints/signs of this darkness (negative-destructive emotions = non-sense) and they are setting these non-sense images (shadows) into motion. Anyone involved/engaged/contracted with/to money in ALL its forms (barter, gold standard, fiat, promissory notes, coins, cashless or not... etc...) are the cursed in the act of committing spiritual suicide. Their allegiance is with/to the Grand Master/Architect of "The System" now presently known as/identified as Satan, their God, a fallen MAN. They are bleeding the sensory waters of Life from their presence (image) of Life so that it is no longer present with the presence of Life. They worship the shadows of darkness and while they serve darkness they are spreading darkness (shadows) all-around, destroying sensory life all around them starting with MAN (who they really are).

The Cesti Que Trust is YOUR DEATH CERTIFICATE, your bond/allegiance to darkness/non-sense. Will they wake up before it is too late? Watch the latest series of videos we've been posting "Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath).

Miki Verse said here: https://www.facebook.com/saoirse.nabas/posts/10152551306410541 - "It isn't your trust Lisa, you didn't create it, you don't maintain it, it isn't in your NAME and if you can not accept a benefit/privilege without accepting the corresponding liabilities."

We replied to Miki Verse: The moment you are renting it which you do with anything re-presenting the "name" (drivers license, birth certificate, credit card, bank account, gas, electricity, telephone, internet, rates, taxes, mortgage, etc) you are bonded...... IT IS NOW YOURS....... YOU CLAIMED IT! It is now you're trust, you trust the fiction to perform on your "names" behalf, meaning you trust the cogs in the wheels of "The System" progress to perform on your behalf so that you can benefit from them (slaves, rulers, labourers, administrators, journalists, politicians, lawyers, judges, academics, professors, clerks, etc, etc.......)."

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REPEAT (and notice the word TRUST in OPPT): " IT! It is now you're trust, you trust the fiction to perform on your "names" behalf, meaning you trust the cogs in the wheels of "The System" progress to perform on your behalf so that you can benefit from them (slaves, rulers, labourers, administrators, journalists, politicians, lawyers, judges, academics, professors, clerks, etc, etc.......)."

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Arthur Cristian

Max Igan posted this (on the other thread): http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwakeup-world.com%2F2013%2F0...

One People’s Public Trust Lawfully Forecloses Corporations, Banks and Governments for Operating Slavery and Private Money Systems - 17 February 2013

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Arthur Cristian

What we also suspect is going on here with the OPPT is an attempt to deflect a massive curse bouncing back at the makers because, with the ushering in of the NWO, they need a way to maintain their power and control over what remains of the dream of life that is MAN. Their system of currency is the currency of curses being processed and with the NWO coming in, they need a way to process the massive curse of all the money (curses) being extinguished and to try and nullify the fallback of all the harm that has been caused. Is this just a large-scale Satanic ritual? The whole of "The System" is based on occults and esoterics, superstitions and rituals and black-magic.

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Brent Renouf

You just can't please everyone all the time!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8X8SFa3nNw&list=LLJoLKgA6rQ_a_qjj56e1y2A
Heather Jarraf-Tucci talks to Freedom Central about The One Peoples' Public Trust
This is a recorded interview with Heather Jarraf-Tucci, a pivitol soul in the formation of the One Peoples' Public Trust.

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Ian Schofield

then likewise, oppt uses 'the system' to get out of 'the system'

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Arthur Cristian

Lets see the evidence of this Ian. While we are co-creating and expanding SENSORY-LIFE all-around in PRESENT-SENSE that is "The Steps Of Kindom" we, the living with LIFE are also forcing the makers of curses and all their loved ones, beneficiaries etc, to process them exclusively with no way out, with no respite They are forced to take full-responsibility for every image they are setting into motion.

The dead cannot deal with the living, only the living can deal with the living-dead. The dead cannot do anything for the living. If the sensory information of LIFE is not amplified, not set into motion in present-sense, all the duped lost to worshiping darkness/non-sense, will continue setting more non-sense images of darkness (where there is no LIFE) into motion, needing "the system" of anti-life-force (the vacuum of life) to execute the will of those lost to non-sense.

Where are the practical steps of the OPPT?

Truth is in present sense. Lies are not in present sense - we cannot sense them, only re-present them through our lives, which means we set them (darkness/non.sense) into motion, spreading even more darkness that is harm. The OPPT is not in present sense and nothing about it is in present sense. It has no power, no force of life.

We have more to post about all this later but there is a huge Satanic deception going on here and many are falling for it.

With the OPPT, we don't see where harm ends and paradise begins.

The OPPT has no life and cannot provide life with life. All it can do is suck your life energy into darkness where nothing happens, where there is no life being set into motion, and all you are doing is still exhausting your life energy to feed the dead world, the very cage of your making that you want to break out of.

The OPPT does not exist in present sense to create life in present sense.

The OPPT cannot make the sunshine, or create gardens or re-forest the desolate lands or heal all the harm caused to MAN and Earth. Only we/MAN, of the living can do that which is why we put LIFE-energy into our gardens and encourage our brothers and sisters to create life in their gardens. Doing this we are all spreading life together all around us rather than spreading more lifeless non-sense darkness that is the OPPT where none of the Life-energy being expended on it is creating any life in present sense, spreading all around.

The OPPT is NOT a remedy.

Why are we going to something that has no life to get life? Freedom is of life, peace is of life as are truth, joy, abundance, etc. Isn't it obvious that all our waking lives should be all about focusing on life? Can't you see that we are in the mess we are in because we have been focusing on anti-life (non-sense-darkness) and spreading it all around us?

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Arthur I appreciate your diligence but personally I see no problem with making the fillings. And no it is not all their courts etc etc. They co-opted the system. They didnt invent it.

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Arthur Cristian

This video clearly reveals how the shadow world is used to deceive the living into giving up their life http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdOag66v7uo
The "Name" Is The Mark Of The Beast The Strawman
Identifying Your Slave Status In "The System"

By Arthur Cristian - Love For Life - www.loveforlife.com.au
5th February 2012 - 56 Minutes 25 Seconds

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Ian Schofield

poetry is written on paper, love letters are written on paper, socrates wrote on paper, am i to believe all of this is non life? i think you are blinded by the love of your own thought processes arthur.....you may have touched upon source, i myself have touched upon source, you clearly have also read the bible, i have also read the bible.....yet our interpretations are quite different....i am quite aware of the 'code' as you call it within the bible, i refer to it as the hidden truth within the bible, not coded but swamped by non truth so that the truth is hard to discern....And he said, Woe unto you also, ye lawyers! for ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers.....oppt releases men from under the burden, yet sensing a cow as opposed to non sensing a cow releases nobody......

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Arthur Cristian

No offence to the living MAN that you are Gary but we are not dealing with "persons" (personally) here. All you have is BELIEF...... that's it. Presently, it seems that you are confused/miss-guided as to who is behind the inventions of non-sense images. If you did you would not be posting comments like this "They co-opted the system. They didn't invent it."

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Ian Schofield

oppt also refers to BE'ing and DO'ing, to be and to do is to live and to sense

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Ian Schofield

do not judge me arthur.

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Annie Janet Elias

Whoa! Interesting thread! More like reading a book! Just wanted to pop in and say thanks to everyone. I've been doing a lot of research about OPPT and my bullshit detectors gone off quite a few times. I WANT to believe it's all true, but my gut tells me its all another ruse to calm the "awake" while they finalize their nwo agenda. Your "they are laughing their heads off sitting in their comfy leather couches spitting cognac intro the fire" really hit home too! Have to sleep on this!

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Arthur. I am saying that because it is a fact. Prove your claim?

That they didnt co-opt the concept of all money, statute laws and courts. And in fact invented it all themselves?

That is a bold claim I doubt you have any evidence for.

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Arthur Cristian

The love letters and the poetry are the inspirations of the living MAN. The paper and pens do not write the poetry. And frankly, most poems and love songs are completely within "The System" for "The System" because they are written by men and women brainwashed and hardwired to "The System". Socrates particularly. We are not judging you Ian, just scrutinising what you say, as we invite you to scrutinise what we say because this is how we all learn.

With the OPPT, belief is all you have on offer and this is not the basis of truth. Just "one" tiny lie mixed in with a lot of truth will destroy all truth down the line. Pure and sincere white will no longer be pure and sincere when a tiny bit of black/grey is mixed into it. It has become corrupted. Just one tiny lie that is a crack in a massive wall holding back an ocean of lies will provide access for liars to gradually wear away the crack permitting more lies and liars to pass through until the hole grows so big it causes the whole wall of "community immunity" to collapse. Now everyone is flooded with images of lies and they don't know anything else. We have just described the Bible for you.

If there was un-corrupted truth, you would think by now through word of mouth across the generations we would all be living in Paradise, BUT we are not. WHY IS THAT? So much for ALL the holy books, "systems" education, occults, esoterics, new age, etc, that have come and gone out of our ancestors lives and through our lives too. Love For Life videos, articles and many debates/discussions are there for you to explore the difference between sense and non-sense.

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Ian Schofield

yin and yang arthur, it forms the basis of ALL creation, without dark one cannot differentiate light as there is nothing to compare it with. a battery cannot power a device with just a positve terminal, a magnet generates no force with just one pole.

there never will be an existence of only pure white.

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Peter J Kuehlen

"There's nothing to sign up for, no movement to join and nothing you need to do."

~ Max Igan

Isn't that what the system says?

Don't worry! All is well. Stay at home!

Maybe its just another way to keep the status-quo?

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Peter. Because freedom is naturally gifted to us by the creator. What ever you want to call your creator. We dont have to fight for it. People have to fight to take it from us.

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Peter J Kuehlen

They already did take it from us long ago.

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Only if you believe that. Im quite sure they would like to take this gold watch of my wrist, yet its still there. We still have freedom. More because of OPPT-IN now.

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Arthur Cristian

Agreed Gary, As for backing our claims, this has all been covered in the Love For Life videos and articles etc. Do your homework. This ground has been covered by us since March 2005 onwards. Simply its ALL about re-presenting (renting) "Intellectual Property" that is copyrighted. Enjoy the videos, articles., etc. Also, "the creator" can imply that the creator is apart from us as of a distance imagined by time and space which are freemasonic/satanic inventions. Watch out for duality images that are non-sense. This is how we get tricked into giving up our lives to perform in a fantasy Wonderland as Alice amongst many non-sense characters..e.g.... "The Thought Of The Creator Is Not The Creator".

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Gary Carlyle Cook

I created myself. We all have our own beliefs. But beliefs are just opinions.

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Ian Schofield

sorry arthur.....but i must strenuously disagree that 'Just "one" tiny lie mixed in with a lot of truth will destroy all truth down the line'

that is pure cock and bull, the truth can never be destroyed, or did you not actually read your bible?

'For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither anything hid, that shall not be known and come to light.'

if one tiny lie can destroy truth then truth would have died an agonising final death a long long time ago, never to be heard of again

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Arthur Cristian

Gary. We (Fiona/Arthur) have NO Beliefs. Do your homework and you might learn why. Briefly, Beliefs are images without the presence of life embodied, therefore are unable to be present with the presence of life. Belief is like a cat chasing its tail without ever catching it. To believe is to be lost in a Spell that is a vortex of no life. You are throwing your life out the window, There is no original/unique thought here.

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Exactly so why not believe that people have created OPPT-IN with a pure heart. I see no issues with it. If you have any feel free to explain but I dont see that you have so far. With all due respect.

I know UCC is an elitists thing but OPPT-IN acknowledged that. Its irrelevant really.

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Arthur Cristian

@ Ian; The only reason that truth is still available to us is because of those who have always remembered truth and have kept that truth alive. Truth is set into motion in the water that we breath that we sense through our senses. Recent Love For Life videos explain this. An analogy/metaphor.... If we all believe in the Bible and we keep reproducing the Bible by chopping down more and more trees to make more and more Bibles until there are no trees left across Earth any more, just lots and lots of Bibles. Where would we be then?

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Peter J Kuehlen

Due to rising CO2 levels we have now more trees then ever and there will never be a lack of paper. We don't reproduce the bible by printing, but we reproduce Jesus by following and keeping his commandments.

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Arthur Cristian

@ Gary, We have explained it all in great detail, read over this thread and watch some of the Love For Life articles/videos. How can something DEAD like the OPPT contain the life of our pure and sincere intentions???? A sensory plant can, even a dog or bird but what about something completely void of life like the OPPT????? Remember, we/MAN are the ONLY ones who can set thoughts into motion. All thoughts are images. If we are creating something dead it is something dead (anti-life) we are setting into motion which makes us slaves to it. The dead can't create sensory life and needs the living who are dumbed down performing everything for the dead-corpse. The videos and articles cover this ground as well.

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Its not DEAD. It simply is not alive. Plenty of things are like that. The PC you are using for example is a tool. OPPT-IN is a tool too.

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Gary Carlyle Cook

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Arthur Cristian

Gary.... you are lost in BELIEF mate.....

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Arthur Cristian

We have to leave this chat but will be back later...... children, children, children....

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Peter J Kuehlen

Patronizing much?

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Ian Schofield

clearly overly enamoured of his own way of being

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Michelle Kenny

Max Egan showed his true colours when he pushed RON PAUL and when he worked with that criminal donation thief Ken O'keefe, Egan is a controlled puppet, he's less obvious than the Alex Jones and David Ickes , anything he pushes is of the old system I'd bet my last dollar on it.

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Its not a belief bro that OPPT-IN was never alive to become dead. Its a tool to inform people that they are personally responsible for unlawful actions. Regardless of whether they are paid to do so or not. Or would you rather we just left UCC the way it used to be?

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Ian Schofield

thats called paranoia mate, max talks about the system being crook, but he didnt rule out that a human could operate within the system to bring it down.....i believe in max's message, i also believed in the hope that ron paul represented, that doesnt make either me or max a control puppet, you appear to be loaded down with many buzzwords but arent using much grey matter to recognise yourself as being a controlled puppet you puppet

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Peter J Kuehlen

Ron Paul is a Mason. How can anybody put his hope into a Mason?

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Ian Schofield

lol.....the police is a corrupt organisation, does that mean all officers are corrupt people? no

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Peter J Kuehlen

Oh, so Paul is a good mason? - LOL

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Peter J Kuehlen

Never mind. Keep your idols dear if you will.

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Ian Schofield

i know a few inherently good masons.....i think you will find that most of your 'bad masons' are skull and bones

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Gary Carlyle Cook

i know masons too. not all masons are bad people. some are great people. i dont trust ron paul either but he would of been better than obama surely. not that its more than a void corporation.

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Ian Schofield

peter, out of the whole lot of the dirty dodgy bastards ron paul sounded like a breath of fresh air, if he WAS one of the bad guys then how come he isnt prez now then? why did they bother squeezing him out of the televised conferences if he was one of 'the mob' huh?
your arguments dont figure when lifted up to the scrutiny of logic

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Peter J Kuehlen

Trusting politicians is foolishness. They are all actors, acting on behalf of their agency. I have no arguments other then telling you that it is foolishness to put your trust in any man. The question is not weather Paul is good or bad? the question is: is he a politician? Paul stopped, because he was told to stop. He did his job just like all the other actors.

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Peter J Kuehlen

Max Igan is acting on behalf of an agency. We all do. I am acting on behalf of an agency as well. As a believer I am acting on behalf of God to the extend that I understand him. Nobody is independent. We are all acting on behalf of our belief system. I told you what my belief is. I follow Jesus and I believe that he is the solution to all of our problems.

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Peter J Kuehlen

According to my belief all other people who offer a solution apart from Jesus are either deceived or lying.

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Gary Carlyle Cook

What are the two contacts with God in the Bible, Peter?

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Peter J Kuehlen

What do you mean, Gary?

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Peter J Kuehlen

The contract is that I do not own myself, but that God owns me and that he has all the rights to my life and that he is a good father who keeps me safe and provides for me and my family. Out of love to him I keep the commandments of Jesus as good as I can.

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Gary Carlyle Cook

I cant remember it exactly but there are two testaments in the Bible. Contracts with God. One is the ten commandments. the other is a Prime law one. Not to steal, not to instigate violence and not to create other laws. Why there is two I dont know but I think it is safe to say the simpler ones superseded the more complicated ten commandments. Now I might be wrong but thats my understanding anyway.

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Arthur Cristian

"The Thought Of God Is Not God". Bible believers chronically break the first commandment "Though Shall Have No Other Gods Before Me"!

As shared ""The Thought Of God Is Not God"!

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Arthur Cristian

We support DO NO HARM through thoughts, feelings and actions. You need to be using your senses to comprehend this in its entirety so you can be sure of not doing harm.

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Gary Carlyle Cook

And your point is? I thought it was obvious to everyone that the thought of something isnt actually the thing being thought if. Thats like saying the thought of my phone isnt my phone, no?

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Peter J Kuehlen

You can not use the bible to refute the bible. This is called a logical fallacy.

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Arthur Cristian

Agreed, this proves the bible is not the living sound/song (satanists call it word) of living creator (Satanists call it God). Living-Creator is always in PRESENT SENSE, the written word is lost in NON-SENSE.

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Peter J Kuehlen

Either the bible is right or it is wrong. If it is wrong, like you claim, then you can not use it to prove that it is wrong. - get it?

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Gary Carlyle Cook

The 'Bible' blatantly contradicts itself so I dont need to even if I wanted to but thats not what I was attempting. I am merely saying that there is nothing wrong with OPPT-IN or Max's opinion on it and I find this attack on him to be rude and self-serving. Almost like people are jealous of his popularity.

PS. the King James Bible isnt THE Bible. Its a remix.

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Jason Mcauley

so is oppt viable, will you gyus use the courtesy notice?

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Peter J Kuehlen

After what time do your words become dead after you write them down?

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Arthur Cristian

We have free will don't we? So we don't need to use the bible to prove anything. Watch the Love For Life videos as they will help you immensely comprehend this Satanic engineered deception.

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Gary Carlyle Cook

So why not just ask people to do that rather than try and use Max's name to get views?

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Arthur Cristian

@ Peter. They are always dead. We are all severely compromised. Remember, we are all the descendants of tribes of MAN who were invaded and decimated and what remained, mainly children, were brainwashed into "The System" of Satan's (a fallen MAN) making. Again, the Love For Life videos explain all this.

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Peter J Kuehlen

OK, Arthur, I will look into it with an open mind.

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Arthur Cristian

There is no argument from us about the creator existing in present-sense. We need to get our senses/brains working around how we were all deceived by DUALITY, that are shadows, images of our projections. We have fallen into the shadows of our own making. We are prisoners enslaved by NON-SENSE THOUGHTS that are images without life of living-creator embodied.

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Arthur Cristian

@ Gary, This is a thread where Max joined the discussion and we posted it on this FB wall for all to see. We have no interest/intentions in profiting from his name. More than 100 million people have visited the Love For Life website - we are also known by millions across Earth. Gary, presently, you obviously know very little about us, our Love For Life work and the Love For Life website. We have something like 35,000 people sitting in limbo waiting for us to accept their offer of a FB friendship. We maxed out the limit a few years ago. We estimate this 35,000 or so by the volume of requests we received every week.

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Arthur Cristian

@ Ian who said "yin and yang arthur, it forms the basis of ALL creation, without dark one cannot differentiate light as there is nothing to compare it with. a battery cannot power a device with just a positve terminal, a magnet generates no force with just one pole. there never will be an existence of only pure white."

The sun casts no shadow.

When you look at the night sky you still see light, If there was darkness night would be a completely jet black wall of darkness all around without any light.

Ying and yang do not exist either. Batteries are of "The System" based on duality. Its power is finite but living-creator is infinite, is without beginning or end, is not of "time" and "space". Living creator is not a divided house because if it was it could not be! It would have been destroyed the moment it was being created, the light would be instantly swallowed by darkness.

All that exist is LIGHT, that is SENSE/CONSCIOUSNESS Ian.

You are re-presenting "Intellectual Property" that are thoughts/images made up by other men and women which you were trained/conned/brainwashed into re-presenting. When you perform "Intellectual Property" you are having no direct experience with sensory life-forms, inanimate or not. The Love For Life videos, etc, explain all this as well.

Ben Lowrey Interviews Arthur Cristian
Love For Life - 8th February 2012

95 Minutes 28 Seconds

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Arthur Cristian

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMK7CkU1ih8
The Dream Of Life Part 6 - Under The Spell Of Intellectual Property
Arthur Cristian - 51 Minutes 52 Seconds

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Arthur Cristian

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ze66_33wxM
Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 8th February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8350
Part One: http://youtu.be/4ze66_33wxM - 70 Minutes 5 Seconds

Part Two: http://youtu.be/43gIi-sjxJc - 81 Minutes 13 Seconds

Part Three : http://youtu.be/oooY6W63K-M - 70 Minutes 18 Seconds

Part Four: coming

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Arthur Cristian

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdOag66v7uo
The "Name" Is The Mark Of The Beast The Strawman
Identifying Your Slave Status In "The System"

By Arthur Cristian - Love For Life - www.loveforlife.com.au
5th February 2012 - 56 Minutes 25 Seconds

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Brett Anderson

A president has as much say in how the world is run as much as Ronalald McDonald has a say in how McDonalds is run. Anyone thinking of voting to change the world is truly totally ignorant of the real world structure and the real establishment that controls it. Max Igan, if he were genuine or truly clued in would know this and be not steering his 'followers' down the merry old path of false hope. He claimed that Ron Paul would be the only one who would stop war with Iran...really? LOL Just on the basic level, no president is going to upset the Military industrial complex and all its corporate beneficiaries because they are already higher up in the power chain and beyond them are many levels of hidden power again, nothing happens in politics unless it was meant to happen, its a closed system and a puppet show for the ignorant. The agenda rolls on because presidents are selected and groomed long before the election exists, they are place men in a chess game that no one even knows exists. I can't begin to express how totally retarded it is to be blithering about 'presidents' and 'who might be better than another' in office, its nearly as retarded as thinking that jesus is the answer. Surely 2000 years of rape, destruction and mass slaughter must surely prove that your belief in the man in the sky is utter nonsense?! The system is all encompassing, it can not be reasoned with, its very existence ensures man's ignorance of life. Any version of remedy which is submissive to any part of the system is still the system, its a program implanted in your head.

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Arthur Cristian

Brilliant Brett - agreed.

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Max Igan replying to Arthur & Fiona Cristian from the other thread......

Max Igan

you just dont get it do you... well the choice is yours brother, its all done if you would like to be free. No forms to fill out, no movement to join, no documents to file, just a choice, love and freedom, or fear and slavery its all up to you. My suggestion is to break the spell. Get out of that left brain reality, and let it sink in ...Or you can choose remain in the slavery system if you like... your choice ...but the one thing to clearly understand, is that via its own mechanism, the system no longer exist, its just up to those who are truly awake, to inform those who still believe it does, of the real truth of the matter.... Clear your mind, put away the meme and break that spell brother.... you are free.... if you want it.

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Ff...

OPPT - The End of Financial Tyranny
Host Santos Bonacci conducts a discussion with guests about the One Peoples Public Trust

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Arthur Cristian Brett, have you noticed the phonetics here of his pen name: Max I Gan?

Max = Maxing/Amplifying

I - The All Seeing Eye as in "i" which we explained in the videos "Water Is The Life Of Mans Consciousness (Breath)" and "Under The Spell Of Intellectual Property".

Gan = Gain

Maxing Out The Gaining Of "i"

What do you think the duped under the spell of the OPPT are doing?

Notice how Max does the David Icke trick of the "Universe" spell suggesting (of hypnoses) that "we are tiny aspects of the universe at the effect of greater forces than us"???? He does this heaps and heaps and heaps. This "spell" is regularly used in his videos, etc. He wrote this to us in the other thread: "Well Arthur, in regard to Mankind, and our little place in the universe, ultimately the system itself,".

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Brett Anderson

..interesting Arthur, I hadn't picked up on that before.

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Ok King Arthur

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Scarymee Wendy

youre a wanker Arthur, his birth name is Maxwell from our mothers uncle, Igan is Irish for Ian, you have no idea mate, why attack Max? you lose crediblity when you attack ppl that are good. Why are you upset about OPPT? because you didn't figure it out?. We are all in this together mate one planet we can't defeat the beast by in fighting, divide and conquer is that your goal too, maybe you are the big fat lie? Feell very sorry for you mate. This conversation looks to me like a big ad for YOU.. You recommend the UCC on your site have you changed your mind now? I think that you are a big part of the problem. GOODBYE

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Arthur Cristian

We have relatives (long-distance) caught up in the Freemasonic world too. You need to put the work in to learn what we have been learning. English letters are hieroglyphics bearing codes. Many who have sold out end up using Pen Names or Altered Names from their original family names/birth names, etc.

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Arthur Cristian

Earth is NOT a planet. Are you aware of this? Also, the word ONE is a freemasonic code.

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Arthur Cristian

We leave everything up, even when we realise down-the-line we were wrong. We support freedom of speech. As you notice we don't delete anything unless they contain terrible foul language or links to adds.

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Arthur Cristian

Our reply to Max "i" Gain", in the other thread........

Arthur exited "The System" when he gave up renting the "benefits" of "The System". Since 2006 he has gradually given up Medicare, Drivers Licence, Car Rego, Birth Certificate, contracts with ALL private corporations, etc, etc. That process ended some years ago. Yes, he can do it because those around him are still compromised and in "The System" but the power comes from the gift of life that those around him give in present sense, moment by moment. This is how we start the exodus; as the tribe expands, more and more of us can give up ties to "The System", supported by those still caught up in "The System" until we are strong enough and have the infrastructure in place for us all to turn our backs. Of course we are all free - it is who we are in present-sense if we choose to live it in present-sense and we don't need the OPPT to live it in present-sense.

This is what we have been saying for years now.

Do you have to jump 10 feet across a room to grab your next breath? Of course not, in present-sense, we already have everything and more. Why do you need to claim/fight for your freedom when you already have it? Only non-sense images like the OPPT con you into exiting present-sense. The duped already lost to the brainwashing spells of non-sense for a life-time continue getting sucked into more and more non-sense spells. The more we look into this OPPT filing while contemplating, contemplating...... we can see/sense innocent & naive people being used.

Don't forget Satanists/Pagans/Freemasons are masters of planting images into their victims brains via remote projection, remote viewing, remote control and getting their victims to think their "own" brains are coming up with them or at least believe in them so they set them into motion. The OPPT is the combined working of such a scam. We see the OPPT as just another Satanic ritual, black magic at work as those behind "The System" look for another way to deflect the curses of their making. Of course, many of those involved, if not most, are innocent of the bigger picture.

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Max Igan

you gave up the benefits of the system Arthur? Did your wife give them up too or are you simply living off her benefits and getting her and other people to drive you around? and whats with the bullshit you made up around my name. you are fucked up on vactican satanistic bullshit. you are locked in left brain and under the vatican spell brother. Plus you are a liar, you are in danger of losing your revenue stream and you are pissed off about it. End of story... and you just love airing your dirty laundry in public dont you... and you take a chapter to say what could be said in a sentence... damned if I know what anyone would bother to read all this waffle anyway. Ive not been able to give you any credence ever since you told me Anastasia came to visit you in Australia.

2 hours ago

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Max Igan Ive never attacked you ever Arthur, not ever, I simply asked for clarification on your Anatsasia story. But this thread looks like you would like that to change and want to create a bit of in fighting. So OK, even though we are all on the same side and are all finding our way to extricate ourselves from a common enemy, and even though fighting amongst ouselves is a total waste of time and I dont really see the point in perpetuating the divide and conquer paradigm as you seem to want to do. To be honest Im getting tired of the bullshit and constant self promotion at the expense of others that people like you are posting. So if you want to make it personal (as it appears you have every intention of doing on this thread) then Im ok if you want the gloves to come off and some real truths to be posted here...

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Arthur Cristian

Max, the breath of life provides the power of life for this MAN, Arthur Cristian, to use whatever dead fiction is provided for this MAN to communicate sense with those lost to non-sense, to Wonderland, without this MAN being contracted to it. This MAN is in this dead world but not of it. We have free will. The Love For Life writing and videos are there to help those use their brains to break the "spells" of non-sense. That is it's ONLY purpose. You sold out Max and YOU are the liar and deceiver you will be seen for who you really are as the veils of this deception continue to fall away and people are using their senses to sense all the lies and liars amongst them. We have nothing to be concerned about.

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Max Igan

well I'd say all anyone has to do is real this thread to see the falacies of what you just wrote.

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Max Igan

and sold out to what? You are the one selling freedom and workshops to people and using the fear of others to generate a revenue stream. Ive never sold information or empowerment to anyone. I dont even charge people for the workshops and seminars I do... so tell us all about when Anastasia came to visit you Arthur...

2 hours ago

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Brent Renouf

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomreigns/2013/02/19/oppt-in
Oppt-IN - www.blogtalkradio.com
Lisa, Chris and Bob from The Collective Imagination Show, Santos Bonacci, D. from removing the Shackles, Brian and AK from American Kabuki, Lois Tucci, Heathers mum, Heather Tucci.

Listen to internet radio with FreedomReigns on Blog Talk Radio

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Max Igan

lol... we can all do the name bullshit too Arthur... hers one.... oooo have you noticed the hidden meaning in the name folks? Arther is of course = King Arthur.. so he is promoting himself as a ruler and then we have Cristian "crist" = Christ, so he obviously views himself as a messiah and "ian" is derived from the original Irish word "Igan" which as he says himself, must of course mean "I Gain" so this guy obviously believes is is a kingly messiah figure who works to gain from you all ... see, easy isnt it? ... Arthur you are so full of shit in beggars belief. Have a nice day ...

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Arthur Cristian

@ Max, "fallacies", Back your claims Max. We are still waiting. You have still not answered many questions asked of you in this thread yet we have answered all of yours, and even then, you still snipe at us for laying it ALL out clearly with the intention of causing no misunderstanding. Hhmmmmmmmmmmmm

You are clutching at straw now, you are most definitely on the non-sense track. Almost everything you are writing now are lies. Do your homework.

The website is in Fiona's name,

The only workshop was back in 2009 and the proceeds went to Mark & Karen Pytellek and to the caterers and to the venue and others. Some dollars were left over and they were gifted to Love For Life. Arthur worked as a volunteer, as a gift, Arthur was not in commerce for "personal" gain.

Since 2005 we do everything for Love For Life for free without a fee. Arthur has never charged for his time since March 2005 working almost every-day of all this "time, for up 18 hours per day until today. Arthur has gifted everything he does for free without a fee, no contracts/conditions attached.

And yes, people can choose to gift to Love For Life and these gifts (no commerce/business) goes to Fiona's bank account or other Love For Life supporters.

EVERYTHING Arthur accesses in "The System" are not in his "name".... EVERYTHING.

Arthur is completely out of "The System" and has been for years.

There is probably very few of us who have done this, if any.

So are you now attacking Fiona?

Can you please confirm this!

Almost from the beginning of this thread you started subtly trying to undermine (attack) Arthur's character and you have not ceased from doing this. You have shown very little good will. Why is that Max? What is it about Arthur you seek to destroy/discredit? If the Truth is what you say it is why do you need to attack others, make it "personal"? Is not truth apparent and stands the test of "time". What have you got to worry about? And why are you not attacking Fiona, she is an equal team player, fully involved in this thread no less than Arthur?

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Arthur Cristian

On the birth certificate it is Athanasious Bouradas. In the early 1980's the trading name, the vessel, was amended to Arthur Cristian. Arthur no longer rents either trading names, this "Intellectual Property" is for the
re-presentatives/administrators of "The System" to do what they like with their
copy-right. All this is explained in the Love For Life videos, they are already embedded in this thread.

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Arthur Cristian

And yes, LIFE is CHRIST = SENSE while Anti-CHRIST is Anti-Life = Non-Sense. It is all explained in the Love For Life videos and articles, etc, links provided near the top of this thread. We always provide FULL-DISCLOSURE, that is what the Love For Life website is for, it is a testament of all our Love For Life work in "The System", a trail kept up on the internet to protect us from slander, lies and other nefarious tactics used by re-presentatives of FORCE down-the-line. Arthur is CHRIST as is any MAN who returns to SENSE.

34 minutes ago

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Arthur Cristian

http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8357

Max Igan & The Fraud Of The OPPT (One Peoples Public Trust) - Facebook Discussion With Arthur & Fion

loveforlife.com.au

The One Peoples Public Trust (OPPT); we are saying that it is not a remedy. We have copied a discussion on another thread involving Max Igan, which may continue. If it does, we will keep posting it here as well.

Tuesday at 14:16

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Robert Petrovski

Yes, in 2009 Mark P received the proceeds of the workshop that was held. I was there attending the workshop. Even at the workshop Arthur was standing firm on his way of life. He gave a brief outline of life and the system outside of the workshop hours.

Tuesday at 15:01

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Arthur Cristian

For all you readers who might have overlooked the link, at the beginning of this discussion is a link "continue reading" where the first of many comments are located" https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/168861396594454

Tuesday at 15:17

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Arthur Cristian

Thanks for coming forward as a witness Robert.

Tuesday at 15:18

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Arthur Cristian

Peter J Kuehlen mentioned you in a comment.

Peter wrote: "Arthur Cristian wrote: "Agreed, this proves the bible is not the living sound/song (satanists call it word) of living creator (Satanists call it God). Living-Creator is always in PRESENT SENSE, the written word is lost in NON-SENSE."

He once said: let there be light and there was light.
As far as I can tell the light is still here.
I have to believe, that his word is still in power."

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Arthur Cristian

The Satanists are lying to you while also telling you the truth at the same time when they said "let there be light and there was light" This implies there once was no light, implying light is finite!

The light they are referring to is "illumined light" shadows/reflections of "intellectual Property" that are WORDS of non-sense Fallen-MAN was/is brainwashed/tricked/seduced/conned/etc into re-presenting.

The Satanists "illumined Light" is also known as the "living word".

But we have never sensed a living word anywhere.... hello a or b or c, please talk to us??? Hello, anyone there??????

You see, their bullshit claim to the living word is NON-SENSE, you can't sense a, b, c.

This is all explained in the Love For Life videos embedded in this thread.

Light is SENSE is Consciousness is the PRESENCE of LIFE of living-creator IN PRESENT-SENSE, embodied in all sensory life-forms, inanimate or not. You can sense horse but you can't sense the word horse. We can sense Living-Creator but we can't sense the words "the creator", etc.

"The Thought Of God Is Not God"

The Freemasons/Satanists have created an "illumined word (world)" for MAN to fall into and this is where everything has gone wrong. This is the only place that we give them power and they are not prepared to give up everything they have worked for over their recorded ages (words). The current version of "The System" is wearing thin, making way for the next version of "The System", hence the OPPT.

The images of non-sense are the hooks that haul us in, following blindly in the wake of the images we worship, the illumined lights of the OPPT and the other illumined images of the NWO blinking at us as we move closer towards them. The OPPT and the NWO are constructed out of "illumined light" which are spells spun on the duped who follow this light, becoming the victims of the "recorded ages", and thus the power and control of the black-magic witches and warlocks continues.

Tuesday at 16:07

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Robert Petrovski

You're living truly as per your words. It's rather difficult to live in the freedom expressed due to the systems dependence

Tuesday at 17:32

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Arthur Cristian

Yep, we are all seriously compromised.......sigh...... But we're getting out.....

Tuesday at 18:04

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Mark Jonas

I wish Arthur & Max could come to a productive agreement - you both are incredible lights of the world

Tuesday at 23:06

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Arthur Cristian

Hi Mark, the greatest challenge for all of us is coming together as brothers and sisters caring for each other without doing harm to each other and without a 3rd party in-between our relationships, meaning, without the need for any man-made "system". This is where we stand Mark. We refuse to accept any man-made system to continue on meddling in our lives and we go to the grave living for Kindom (Do No Harm Communities). We live for obliterating "The System" in ALL its forms/guises/images/etc. We're talking about pure and sincere love, truth, peace, joy, abundance, etc, here. We have NOTHING else to live for Mark....... NOTHING. We are making another video about the OPPT and how the OPPT process IS a Satanic Ritual, no different to ancient Satanic rituals performed before armies went to war to invade, conquer and destroy another civilisation, only for the oligarchy to create a "New World/Civilisation" ("The System") in their image. All involved on all sides were under the "spell" of non-sense. We're not joking here, take us very seriously. Love & Hugs to you mate. Arthur & Fiona Cristian.

Tuesday at 23:44

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Mark Jonas

Cheers Arthur, sounds right on. Love to you and the family!

Tuesday at 23:47

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Simon Penton

I am not here to offend. Just stating my opinion and feedback about what I've read so far.

The idea that everyone around the planet can get a piece of land (1 Hectare for example) and just live off-grid and grow their food is simply not bourne-out by experiences. In Britain (Land of the Covenant) people who try to just live on the land self-sufficiently are usually removed by force. There are a few examples of folk living in certain communities and just about managing to survive by claiming welfare benefits or doing outside work (inevitably paying taxes), but these are very rare. ALL agricultural land in Britain must be used as it is licensed or the people are forcibly removed.

Then we have the issue of climate. In winter in Britain, from my experience as an organic gardener of decades, it is just possible to grow a little food, but certainly not enough to live off. Without investment into polythene and glasshouses, specialist equipment, storage facilities, etc, then growing food through the dark of winter is a fallacy. There isn't any self-sufficiency in Britain, and everyone is reliant upon food storage and distribution, importation and retail outlets. Yes, folk can supplement their food requirements here, but the idea that folk can be self-sufficient in a Cool-Temperate climate (getting colder not warmer) without substantial investment and strong community, still based upon business and taxation, and still be veggie/vegan, is total fantasy for us here! It's not useful to suggest otherwise!

I've read some of the Anastasia series. The wider movement is working in places where land is available and where community building exists strongly already. The sentiment is beautiful and inspiring and the words are healing in themselves, but the Siberian Taiga, Australian outback or other imperial colony (the Native's land anyway) is quite different to the controlled reality of Britain and other 'civilised' countries.

Time after time we see 'communities' being built by strong egos and then controlled by those that have the greatest financial input. As long as land is granted under condition of payment (ie valued per area) then the ego is what is in control. Hence, IMO, the need for a period of transition into the consciousness of not being in any part of the system, by steadily shedding each part of it. Simply dumping the lot and imagining that one can live securely is not the experience of large numbers of people. It's like those who try driving unregistered cars without a license or tax. Every one of them gets stopped and the vehicle taken. Why? Because the current 'system' cannot allow folk to break away yet. So lots of Sovereign types are not even bothering to try deregistering cars etc because they still need to get around and present vital info about not paying taxes, about Commercial Liens, about Trust Law and Fee Schedules, etc.

There are many who have lost their valuable assets because they applied the principles of deregistering but didn't have the Trusts in place to protect themselves. There are others who have been forcibly detained, sectioned, had children taken, and suffered greatly, directly because they tried part of the process without the security of strong Commercial Lien and Trust Law education.

I see and hear the 'word-smiths' and their deductions from their years of study. I see the sense and the nonsense. I see the e-motion in the conclusions that folk have come to. It's easy to feel the truth of one's own experience, but difficult to feel another's. Such is the power of polarisation coming into equilibrium (Pisces into Aquarius)!

The 'Occupy' movement failed dismally. It was infiltrated and destroyed from within. It used the terminiology of aggression and hired lawyers.
But I know some folk trained in law who are doing excellent work, and defending others and their assets from corporate claims. Whistleblowers are coming out weekly now. Folk are discovering integrity!

Unam Sanctum etc. declared ownership of the planet and the people, assets, etc upon it. Someone had to dissolve that fake 'Trust'! It couldn't be rebutted at the time because the Vatican assassinated ANYONE who disagreed with them. And look, the Vatican has controlled the planet ever since! Only now is the facade of 'consent' crumbling!

We've had the on-going UCT and Local CT processes happening for some time, with folk declaring Family and Personal Trusts and securing their assets and bodies of the Beneficiaries. Again, educating about Trust Law and what it signifies.

We've had the Administrative Process route, using Commercial Liens against the corporations to PROVE their Fraud. Again, educating about how to use Trust Law and why.

The OPPT may or may not be the solution on a local level, and maybe that is because, for some reason 'Universal' Commercial Code is not 'Universal'?

It appears that one way to look at the process is as a useful transition from one state of consciousness to another. The proof of efficacy of the method is to be seen by each and every participant. The idea that 'all the work as been done' is disinfo and not what the documentation says. In a similar way, folk in local CTs are still having to apply the methods and Admin Process to those corporations that make claims. The principle of establishing Personal Liability of every individual in each corporation is a sound process. Arguing with them about principles has never worked - in the current paradigm, what has worked is a Commercial Administrative Process that establishes their fraud. It works - I've tried it many times!

The principle of the equal distribution of the 'assets' of each and every Beneficiary of the Planetary Trust is a sound principle. It is a part of the principles behind the St Germain Trust and the NESARA process. All are 'processes' and not necessarily the expected ultimate result.

The principles of getting to grips with the 'Patrimony' process of using the Beneficiary's assets (including bodies) as collateral and therefore for the repayment of debts of bankrupt corporations, has been very important for many folk, as surely has been the knowledge of registration, 'bonds', sales of mortgage and other speculative instruments, promissory notes, etc etc

Right now the Idle No More movement is picking up speed but being misdirected into protest about climate or resources, and doing more ceremonies to bring the 'magic' into the process. The magic isn't working without the withholding of taxes, administrative process, principles of Trust Law, ending payments to banks, shifting to ethical and sustainable, etc, because as long as there is compliance with and support for the criminal corporations then the crimes continue. And yet the First Nations folk have loads of legal precedent and power from the treaties that are the prerequisite to the colonies existing at all! Affidavits and Admin Process would go a long way to make a difference!

Repeatedly, the polarisation is manifesting. Yet the solutions are in both 'sides'!

IMO, knowing that FB is being monitored and groups infiltrated to dismantle, means that cross-reference and personal study is still most important!

Wednesday at 03:32

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Max Igan

Its interesting to see how this all actually works and I'll explain why the OPPT just "feels" right to me... Basically, as you may have heard me speak of, the entire system we are/were under is essentially a vatican construct and is the result of the Unum Sanctum Trust filed in 1302 by Pope Boniface (and the following Ceste Que Ve trusts filed beneath it). Currently the corporations are under the UCC and, through sleight of hand, the people are/were placed under the corporations. What the OPPT has done is trump the Vatican Trust by stepping above it and placing everyone who "is" ...everyone alive... every one who is BE'ing..., above the UCC and therefore answerable only to the creator.

The only way the "system" can now claim ownership over you is to rebutt that claim or provide a counter claim (UCC filing) proving that they created and therefore, own you.... does that make sense? Thats why asking who is going to enforce all this is also a moot point because ultimately its up to us to KNOW who we are and to stand firm and simply say, well, This UCC filing currently stands unrebutted, so all Im asking for, is for you, if you presume to have the authority to excersise a right of ownership over me, to provide me with proof of claim by rebutting the filing. By asking that simple question nothing is really able to proceed past that point until proof of claim is provided.... and it can never be provided because it doesnt exist.... This system is a legal fiction, we made it up, it didnt create us, we created it... you see? .... as I said, I may be wrong and Im certainly not infalable but so far, from what I can see, there is no movement to join, no forms to fill out, no cost to anyone and no harm will come to anyone by asking questions...

So where is the "cult" and whats to fear? ...Lets, for arguments sake, say that its all a scam, that the whole idea is BS... whats the worst that could happen?... well, really, the worst that could happen is you clogg the system up with paper work and get a few weeks reprieve on paying ur bills... bummer... but as I said, so far, from what I can see, the logic behind what has been done by the OPPT is sound and the unrebutted filing is there so ....

Lets see where it all leads ...and you need to break the spell and break out of that vatican/ god vs satan program you are running Arthur, we are all on the same side here. Everyone has a piece of the puzzle and all perspectives are valid, life isnt "Arthurs way or the Highway" brother. Building alternative communities is just turning your back on reality and allowing the world to turn to chaos around you via your non participation in it. All it means is that you let it grow in power so you get eaten up later rather than sooner. We dont need alternate communities. We already have community, we just need to fix this one. ... Peace

Wednesday at 15:51

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Donna Evans

Max what has happened to your Self Governing stance ?

Wednesday at 12:37

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Maggie Jackson

Right on! When i first heard of this i thought it was another paper pusher for money. i understood what she was saying but i also saw how many were still sleeping in the world. When i heard the interview with you Max the clarity came thru on a whole different level. We do have community.... of One....Universal

Wednesday at 12:41

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Max Igan

My self governance stance has remained the same Donna. Thats what this is all about.

Wednesday at 15:20

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Tim Foote

Beautifully put Max.

Wednesday at 15:31

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Arthur Cristian

Hi Max & Simon & others, we are replying to your comments. As you are our brothers/sisters of LIFE, our reply comes with our very best in the form of a video. It will be up within two days, possibly tonight. Max, you obviously have no idea what you are promoting and if you did you would not do it or you are seriously compromised and loyal to the fraternity of Masons (architects of "The System") you work for/with (No offence to the living-sensory-MAN intended.). Maggie, you are re-presenting (under) the spell of non-sense ("intellectual Property): "We do have community.... of One....Universal.", this comment is a load of BULLSHIT (no offence to the living-sensory-MAN intended). Watch the Love For Life videos and WAKE UP. They are all embedded in this thread. Simon, the video will be addressing the bigger picture of your very well presented views. All the best - Arthur & Fiona Cristian

Wednesday at 16:06

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HisRoyalslyness Gozaimasu Stone

In a duality checkerboard fiction landscape if U overbalance towards either polarity it plays right into the divide & conquer dialectic trap of the makers of the fiction. Taking no sides & accepting all is the middle neutral polarity that heals the bipolarity as without light or dark there is no creation yet it always balances where they both meet in every situation at the equinox point where light meets dark.

If a man (in) himself is divided then everything becomes black & white

This is how duality is manipulated by the powers that lie

When they are allowed to get away with controlling the psychology they then get away with controlling the perception.

Wednesday at 16:32

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Max Igan

As I said Arthur, you need to break that spell and break free of that Vatican program you are running. Remember, Divide and conquer is the motto...

Wednesday at 16:39

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Bruno Ferro

Hi Max, can you prove that Arthur is running a vatican program? And what's with all the slander towards Arthur and Fiona? By the way Arthur does not perform in the system e.g. commerce, spells etc.. plus I was present also during the 2009 weekend workshop/meeting and given the amount of effort that went into organising the event Arthur did not profit a dollar, fyi. If everyones a winner why is a score taken??

Wednesday at 17:56

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Max Igan

Arthur blaims almost everything on "satanism" and "satanists" ... satan is a fiction... its a vatican program.

Wednesday at 18:17

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Max Igan

I havent slandered Arthur Bruno. I merely questioned him on his anastasia story and responded to the slander he directed at me for asking the question. He has actually slandered me to a number of people previously, Ive received a few emails from people he has spoken to about it. Its just that I have gotten tired of it and decided to respond.

Wednesday at 18:39

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Arthur Cristian

Max, you have stated openly on many occasions that you support "The System". We warn everyone to watch out for those who support "The System". Not to do so would show a lack of love for our brothers/sisters of life. This is not slander Max. Instead it is fact. We tell everyone to be very wary of anyone who openly supports "The System". The fact you peddle heaps of Satanic/Freemasonic engineered "spells" has us warn many people about you as well. Some of these "spells" have already been mentioned in this thread. This is not slander Max, it's a fact. The evidence of your "spelling" is on the net plastered everywhere. We operate under FULL-DISCLOSURE - watch the videos, there is nothing hidden.

As for Satanism, it's not what you think it is. You obviously have not been watching and comprehending the videos we've been posting and not reading and contemplating on the Love For Life articles as well.

Satanism is the practice of creating non-sense images and putting them into peoples brains through remote projection (there are many ways to do this) so that they fall into the belief of those images and set them into motion, carry them out, as in Little Mary now performing Alice in Wonderland, Billy performing Bob the Builder, Sally performing ABC, etc, etc,. We are all the victims of this through all the false images we are subjected to daily and we are so accustomed to having image after image put into our heads that we don't notice it happening and we think the images are just part of the normal river of thoughts flowing through our brains; we don't know which are our unique/original thoughts and which come from somewhere else. Used to spin spells, Satanists are brilliant non-sense "story tellers'.

You see Max, it is you who slanders here. We have never blamed the Vatican or left or right brain "constructs" for Satanic myths you claim we support. As you can see Max you have slandered Fiona And Arthur on many occasions. This is FACT, the evidence is clear for ALL to see.

To us, Satanism is NOT a Vatican program, instead it's a by-product of those who practice what we shared above.

Max, please show us the slander in this thread or the other that you claim we are guilty of.

Also, Satan is a code for the "Grand Architect' of "The System", the founding father of civilisation "The System". This fallen-MAN (not a fallen angel bullshit) has been given many names.... Odin, Zeus, Ahriman, Satan, Baal, Moloch, etc. Satan was a MAN, just like us. The legacy of his dream was passed down through his children across ALL recorded ages. This nutcase created "The Beast" that all Satanists/Freemasons/Pagans worship. They tell you clearly in their non-sense books.

Conscious or not, the fact you cast "spells" of non-sense IS the ONLY cause of divide and conquer Max. You are the culprit behind divide and conquer. Getting MAN to fall under the "spells" of NON-SENSE divides MAN from SENSE, therefore can be manipulated further,....to be used, abused, raped and exhausted of MANS life-force-energy. SENSE is consciousness/life/nature/earth/reality while NON-SENSE is unconsciousness/death/"The System"/fiction/fantasy-illusion-delusion.

We say you sold out because you openly support "The System". This is fact. If you have watched our videos, read our articles you would see clearly why we are saying it.

We even explain in this thread some of those reasons. Do you want us to lay it all out here again?

Wednesday at 22:55

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Felix Fletcher

Sam Walker

Wednesday at 23:22

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Sam Walker

Dont scare me like that! Felix Fletcher

Wednesday at 23:33

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Max Igan

Rubbish Arthur, show me where I have once said that I support the system or stand exposed as a liar. And of course I havent been watching your videos, why would I? Your still under the vatican spell and running the Vactican program.

18 hours ago

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Angel Frolicker

Seems like Arthur doesn't believe in birth control..must be under a Vatican spell...lol. What an ego of self righteousness! I'd grow tired of dealing with this kind of engagement too, Max. Sigh... This man does not listen or try to understand. Moving along. You want it public..so here's my response.

18 hours ago

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Simon Penton

Been recommended this instead:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgcW6Hzn46w
David Wynn Miller QUANTUM GRAMMAR SEMINAR SEPTEMBER 2012 FULL
Uploaded for pacsteam.org YouTube Playlist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnF3DVPWSfA&list=PLB86FB16CD021012C&featu...

16 hours ago

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Dylan Chiang

Max Igan brother with all do respect why even bother responding if you are not fully reading what Arthur is saying! i dont get it! --- what hes saying clearly has nothing to do with the Vatican at all or the common paradigms of what 'satanism ' is - give it a chance!-- Arthur Cristian is open for discussion we all want the same thing -- hes not attacking you the' man" max just the information you are presenting which even you have claimed you only have a 'skeletal " view of --so lets all work together on this there are alot of traps out there-- we are all waking up and the system is doing everything it can to trap us and trick us into accepting it again as its always done -we all know the lies wear thin thus its important to scrutinize and not take anything personally-- -love to you guys! i sooo appreciate the both of you --

16 hours ago

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HisRoyalslyness Gozaimasu Stone

Next time U go communicate with a tree Arthur, in particular an indigenous tree, see if U can be present enough in the moment to sense & hear what the tree essence is telling U. If U have trouble focusing deep enough to be present enough in the moment in order to hear the tree speak to U in the old language, i suggest that U perhaps find an aboriginal Shaman who still knows the old language (there arent many like this around but they are out there still) & he will explain many things to U that will make much deeper conscious sense of your current sense. Comprende?

Clues: Do U know which old language that the Levite priests et all pimped from to make all modern Romanized alphabet languages? The old language whose letter sounds U actually do hear in nature, & this language can only be properly/effectively communicated, spoken & heard, whilst being totally present in any moment whilst standing in the centre of your whole energetic being.

15 hours ago

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Max Igan

I dont read all he writes because he writes a chapter when all is needed is a paragraph Dylan. Its classic energy vampirism and I dont have time for it and as soon as I see the word satan, I skip to the next paragraph cos its all nonsense from there. The problem is that its impossible to discuss anything with Arthur that differs from Arthurs programmed opinion. He is under this vatican/roman/satanism spell and its always Arthurs way or the highway. Everyone I know who has ever attempted to discuss an alternate opinion to his with him, has always come up against the same wall. He's famous for it. In fact I will leave the discussion now. Ive given too much energy to this divide and conquer meme of his already.

15 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

Ok, so there is a formula that we have to fit into in order to debate with Max Igan. Could you please specify the exact number of words that is acceptable for you to read? Are there any other conditions that need to be applied before you will enter into debate? Is there a certain range of images/definitions/language that you would like us to confine our replies within? Perhaps you should put the conditions up on your website so that people know the box they have to get into to converse with you. So much for scrutiny of all information. We read everything people post so that we don't miss any gems. You ask questions, we answer them as best we can and then you can't be bothered to read the answer. So why ask the question? How can you make judgements about what we think and feel when you don't know what we think and feel because you don't read what we post???????

FYI - Satan is "The System" because it is the dream of the founder set into motion, sucking everyone's lives into its lies.

You openly support the Australian Constitution which is "The System" so you support "The System" of goven(men)t. Refer to earlier posts in this thread. You go on about us being into Vatican spells, etc, which we don't even talk about. We talk about non-sense.

Blah, blah, blah, blah - there is lots more we can say but Max will have stopped reading by now, if he even made it past the first sentence so we can just say blah, blah, blah.

BTW, it is Fiona writing this post - why does everyone love to attack Arthur but never says anything about me? I am involved in most of the stuff Arthur writes. If anyone doubts that they are welcome to call me on 0418 203 204 (International; 0011 61 418 203 204) and you can hear it directly from me. How about giving me a call Max?

Max, the vampires are the ones who cast spells to suck everyone's life energy into "The System" making them slaves to "The System" as they suck and suck and suck the non-sense of "The System" while those behind "The System" are sucking the life energy.

Divide and conquer: your determination to avoid diving into our work so that you comprehend it sufficiently to be able to have a sincere opinion about it IS the DIVIDE and placing your beliefs and opinions, etc, onto a higher standing IS the CONQUER. We have looked at your work and contemplated on it but we just don't agree with some of what you say and promote. You are just unwilling to put everything you claim, believe, etc, to the test. We are always willing to do this. We welcome your debate but what is the point when you do not know where we are coming from because you refuse to read, watch, contemplate and comprehend the information we share? Our door is always open for you, Max and we will always engage with you and anyone else.

We are not saying that everything has to be our way or no way - we are looking for the best remedy to "The System" and, at the moment, we do not see another other than "The Steps Of Kindom". If another comes along, doesn't matter whose idea it is, we will drop "The Steps Of Kindom" and go with it.

Go check out some of the debates that are on the Love For Life website - they are all there, warts and all. Most people are not willing to REALLY put their beliefs to the test and they do not want the false reality of their beliefs. faiths and associated opinions to be shattered but how are we supposed to arrive at the truth if we are not willing to scrutinise everything we know and put it to the test? If people complain about Arthur, ask them what there complaint is. It nearly always comes down to people attacking his character rather than putting the information we share to the test! People fight for their beliefs because they do not want to take responsibility for the truth and they like to blame somebody else when their beliefs are threatened. What harm do we do by scrutinising information and giving our honest and sincere feedback about it? We do not attack people or make it personal because we recognise that al men and women are our brothers and sisters and we want to co-create truth, peace, etc with all of them.

We have spoken to many, many people over the years and we have not come acoross anyone who does not want peace, truth, freedom, joy, abundance and do no harm for all without loss of uniqueness and originality for everyone/everything and without the need for slaves and rulers. This is what we live for and when we scrutinise information this is the test we put it to. Where we do not see it as being effective in creating the above, we point it out and explain why. That is all. This attitude is at the heart of all the Love For Life work we do. "The System" and the OPPT both fail to meet this criteria which is why we are having this discussion and why we say that what you are doing also fails this criteria. This is why we ask you why you say what you do? Do you not want peace, truth, etc? What do you stand for? And is it a problem if people scrutinise what you say and point out that it does not meet that criteria? How else are we going to rout out all the lies and liars everywhere and pave the way for all of us to have peace, truth, etc, in our lives, and for all our descendants to come to have it also?

12 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian @ Angel - what a lot of claims you make about someone you know very little about. Can you back any of them? Have you actually watched/read any of our work so that you can form a sincere opinion about them?

13 hours ago

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Arthur you are not even explaining yourself well or offering alternatives.. Max doesnt support the system, as you say. To be honest I find that very rude as Max has devoted his life to finding harmony for society.

13 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

@ HisRoyalslyness Gozaimasu Stone: No, we don't know what alphabet language you are talking about but we have been getting a lot of information about a very old German alphabet language which appears to be coming directly out of the Vedic cultures. There are some incredible people in Eurpoe who are working on this and sharing it with us. Once the linguists have translated it, we will put some stuff up for all to see. They are really concerned about getting the translation spot on because they had so many more letters than English so it is hard to get an accurate translation.

To us, the original language is the Song of Nature, MANS life in/as present-sense that is connected with our breath as explained in the videos we just posted "Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath)". However, it is very interesting to look at the older languages that were not as far removed from present sense as English is. If you know of any (Ab)Original Shaman who feels like sharing some of that wisdom, ask him/her if they want to come our way! If they are true Shamans then they already know about us and are observing what we do through the water of our (MANS) breath. By the way, recently we've been contacted by a few Original tribal MAN coming from various tribes across Earth. Let's see what comes. They don't disagree with the info we're sharing.

13 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

@ Gary. "Society" IS THE "SYSTEM"!!!! Are you aware of this???? Have you been reading ALL his posts on Facebook for the past 12 months or so? Also, HAVE YOU READ the remedy we share "The Steps Of Kindom?????? This is the alternative we offer. If you read it and have any comments about it, we would love to hear them. BTW: When we say things about Max it is rude but it is not rude when he says things about us? And why are you also leaving Fiona out of this? It is Fiona writing here again, with Arthur here too.

13 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

We are getting back to the video we are making so will not be around till later on.

13 hours ago

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Gary Carlyle Cook

No I havnt. Can you describe it in a succinct manner please?

You are welcome to your opinion but personally the universe is full of systems and most of them are useful to humans.

13 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

Gary - take responsibility for your life and put the effort in. We have written it and posted it so that we don't have to write it out, over and over again for those who want to know about it. In a nutshell, it provides peace, truth, freedom, joy, abundance and do no harm for all without loss of uniqueness and originality for everyone/everything and without the need for slaves and rulers. http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

BTW - can you bring forward the Universe to back your claims and all the systems that are useful. And please don't bring another MAN forward to re-present your claim; we want the Universe, the first party to come forward so we can experience it directly. Watch the videos embedded on this thread to comprehend the bigger picture of what we are sharing with you.

The Steps Of Kindom by Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 2006 to 2012
Links
"The Steps Of Kindom" http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304
or
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5788
or
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8256

13 hours ago

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Gary Carlyle Cook

I NEVER wrote that ALL systems are useful.

But thanks for the link.

May I just suggest you focus on your own work rather than trying to make Max look bad to forward your own agenda. What ever it is.

Peace.

13 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

We never said ALL systems either, we just said "all the systems that are useful". This is not the same as "all systems". What agenda? It was Max who started having a go at Arthur, questioning his integrity, etc. Are you having a go at Max about this? Go back to the beginning of the thread. Here's the link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/168861396594454 All the best - we really do have to go now.

12 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

Link to the OPPT: http://www.lisamharrison.com/2013/02/20/latest-oppt-filing

Anyone notice that MAN or man or Man, is not used anywhere in the OPPT Document.

Instead, they use "self".

Can they please bring forward "self" to back their claims that "self" exists. This is no different to "person" or "mind" or "strawman" or "ego" etc.... IN PRESENT-SENSE THEY DO NOT EXIST. They are just a reflection, an image of our projection. They are shadows of "illumined light" = "Intellectual Property".

Notice the word "person" in Blacks Law Dictionary..... SELF-DEFENCE = In criminal law. The protection of one’s person or property against some injury attempted by another. The right of such protection. An excuse for the use of force in resisting an attack on the person, and especially for killing an assailant.

http://thelawdictionary.org/self-defense

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Notice the word creator next to numeric codes....

"UCC 1-308, creator, experiencing by creation, knowingly, willingly, and intentionally manifesting self through, by, and between bondservant therefrom and any and all manifestations thereunder by Universal Contracts,......."

This creator is enjoindered to "commercial contracts".......

Now read carefully here:

Uniform Commercial Code

U.C.C. - ARTICLE 1 - GENERAL PROVISIONS

PART 1. GENERAL PROVISIONS [Table of Contents]

§ 1-103.

§ 1-103. Construction of [Uniform Commercial Code] to Promote its Purposes and Policies: Applicability of Supplemental Principles of Law.

(a) [The Uniform Commercial Code] must be liberally construed and applied to promote its underlying purposes and policies, which are: (1) to simplify, clarify, and modernize the law governing commercial transactions; (2) to permit the continued expansion of commercial practices through custom, usage, and agreement of the parties; and (3) to make uniform the law among the various jurisdictions.

(b) Unless displaced by the particular provisions of [the Uniform Commercial Code], the principles of law and equity, including the law merchant and the law relative to capacity to contract, principal and agent, estoppel, fraud, misrepresentation, duress, coercion, mistake, bankruptcy, and other validating or invalidating cause supplement its provisions.

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They are dealing with legalese here.
They filed the documents that oversees legalese = commercial courts which are defined by (and not only) blacks law dictionary.

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Money is the current(cy) (cy = see = sea) of the curse........

So the process of this OPPT document is the processing of a curse..... the combining of MANS life-force-energy as the sea of the curse.

This is blatant black-magic of the worst kind.

Where are they directing all this accumulating Life-Force-Energy?????????

Watch the video - coming shortly.

Link: http://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/1/article1.htm

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Notice the words used frequently "universe" and "universal" ------

uni verse
and
uni verse all

They are clearly telling you what this is all about.

Please bring forward the "universe" and the "universal" to back your claims. It must be a 1st party to 1st party direct experience and not the re-presentation of "universe" and "universal" performed by a man acting as "self". If so THIS IS FRAUD.

uni = ONE - ONENESS = SAMENESS
and
verse = story or his-story or her-story.

Universe means ONE-STORY
and
universal means ONE-STORY FOR ALL

meaning there is no uniqueness/originality and that ALL are under the same story = one world government, one word religion.........etc.

We say no more.

Video coming ASAP.

Love Arthur & Fiona Cristian

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Arthur Cristian

Max Igan is he truly a freethinker and a bastion of freedom of speech ---he removed our FB friendship with him today??????

5 hours ago

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HisRoyalslyness Gozaimasu Stone

Aramaic/Magyar language/Phoenician Magyars/Celts/Australian Aboriginies/Incas/Ecuadorians etc. -----> Atlantean/Lemurian Era

All modern Romanizied alphabet languages have been pimped/derived from Magyar. Latin is Etruscan backwards. Etruscan is Magyar.

The linguist and diplomat Sir John Bowring wrote the following about the Magyar language in 1830:

“The Hungarian language goes far back. It developed in a very peculiar manner and its structure reaches back to times when most of the now spoken European languages did not even exist. It is a language which developed steadily and firmly in itself, and in which there are logic and mathematics with the adaptability and malleability of strength and chords. The Englishman should be proud that his language indicates an epic of human history. One can show forth its origin; and alien layers can be distinguished in it, which gathered together during the contacts with different nations. Whereas the Hungarian language is like a rubble-stone, consisting of only one piece, on which the storms of time left not a scratch. It is not a calendar that adjusts to the changes of the ages. It needs no-one, it doesn’t borrow, does no buckstering, and doesn’t give or take from anyone. This language is the oldest and most glorious monument of national sovereignty and mental independence. What scholars cannot solve, they ignore. In philology it’s the same way as in archaeology. The floors of the old Egyptian temples, which were made out of only one rock, can’t be explained. No one knows where they came from, or from which mountain the wondrous mass was taken. How they were transported and lifted to the top of the temples. The genuineness of the Hungarian language is a phenomenon much more wondrous than this. He who will solve that will analyze a divine secret, the first thesis of which is: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”

21st Feb 2013 11.50pm

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Jessica Charms

It sad how people are so far gone. That name calling become the main topic.

21 February at 23:15

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Arthur Cristian

One way or another, mostly all of us can have our moments Jessica. Questioning our integrity over and over again can be very challenging at times. We are sincere doing the very best we can.

21 February at 23:23

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Michael Wegrzyn Sr.

great post ...sharing now

22 February at 01:00

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Arthur Cristian

Today, the question was asked to Heather Tucci-Jarraf, OPPT Trustee, as to why the word "self" was used instead of MAN, Man, man, in the OPPT document/s: tohttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/globalfactradio/2013/02/22/global-fact-radio-the-oppt-with-heather-tucci-jarraf - starts at 98 minutes 20 seconds.

This was her answer:

"Every word was chosen very specifically and essentially those attorneys who read those documents who knew exactly what was happening in their language, however the documents were meant to be read with the heart and not the mind as far as the people go".

(note: it sounded like she was reading the answer from a script - was she briefed on this?):

Note: SHE DID NOT ANSWER THE QUESTION.

She instead completely avoided it!

This was blatant gobbledygook talk no different to a politician who dribbles on and on without ever specifically answering the question.

Why does the dictionary exist?

What is the purpose of the Blacks Law dictionary?

Are they not used to clarify the exact meaning of a word to avoid misunderstandings/confusion, etc, down the-line?

If the writers are using words that ONLY the heart can know, does this not leave it open down-the-line for misunderstandings/wrong-interpretations to eventuate etc. The benefit of vagary leaves things open for abuse, manipulation, change of direction/tactics, etc, anytime down-the-line.

There is no certainty of intent here. "NO... WE DID NOT MEAN THAT..... WE MEANT THIS INSTEAD". "YOU WERE NOT USING YOUR HEART". THAT IS YOUR FAULT!

The dictionaries exist to make it CLEAR for all concerned so they know exactly and clearly where they stand with those who were/are behind the making of the OPPT document. WHAT A CLEVER COP OUT/ESCAPE CLAUSE. Watch out people you are ALL being tricked here.

AND. "Every word was chosen very specifically and essentially those attorneys who read those documents who knew exactly what was happening in their language" --- GEEESSS, they are very important people, going out of their way to help us, to care for us in times of great need,..... they must be on our side.... WE BETTER TRUST THEM. they've gone to great trouble making sure everything is spot on!!!!!!!.. What a load of butter up bullshit.

Please go here to post your comments or read all the thread: The OPPT is a FRAUD, A LIE, Refer to this discussion with Max Igan: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/168861396594454

CONSCIOUS LIVING - THE OPPT WITH HEATHER TUCCI-JARRAF
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On this episode of CONSCIOUS LIVING, we are honored to have two guests: Heather ...

22 February at 22:11

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Pj Jackson

Political Fear Mongers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OWXaIXGRsc

Political Fear Mongers
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National Liberty Party will abolish all Laws regarding Fluoride in the Water sup...

22 February at 22:03

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Arthur Cristian

And notice the wording "who knew exactly what was happening in their language". implying they know exactly the intent behind the word "self", but others must use their hearts to work it out. What a fob off.

22 February at 23:55

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Arthur Cristian

And I LOL over this one "however the documents were meant to be read with the heart and not the mind as far as the people go"..... AS FAR AS THE PEOPLE GO.... implying as far away from truth as possible AND we want you to be con-fused which you will if you just trust us by following your heart... MEANING = BELIEF (believe in us, believe in our "spells") and not look into the true meanings of these legalese words used....... it is up to you, of the people, to work things out if you can....

The word "Self" is tied to "Person". Blacks Law makes this very clear. How much more clear does it have to be? "Here's the lemon you ordered sir"... "No I never wanted that, I wanted an orange",.... "No... you were not listening to your heart, the letters form the word orange but we said we wanted a lemon" !!!!!!!

23 February at 01:02

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HisRoyalslyness Gozaimasu Stone

Btw Arthur, I have given U enough clues to sink a battleship to workout something HUGE that is already staring U right in your face lol U will work out the rest when the penny finally drops if indeed it may have done so by now already already How far can your sense dig into your DNA for answers brother? How much can U remember that is still lying dormant waiting to be revealed into the light of day?

23 February at 01:45

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Arthur Cristian

Stephen, Thanks for the info mate. To us, it is all in the breath - this is the original language, song of life/nature/MAN/Earth, and everything else has come since then. Without water, our breath, there is no DNA because the DNA is the thoughts/images of MAN set into motion through the breath and, as MAN breathes that water in and out, adding to it and expanding that, the original breath of living creator and ALL of MAN is present in present sense where we all have access to it, the DNA, and where we and all our descendants have access to our/their ancestors and everything they were dreaming, thinking, feeling and doing, i.e. the "sacred sites" where the water of their life is, although really, everything of the dream of life is sacred, in present-sense, and we are not limited by "time" and "space" to access it anywhere.

It is through the water that we (MAN) can communicate without doing harm to Earth, creating dead-corpse prosthetics like telephone, mobile, internet, radio waves, etc, and is how we can shift who we are, the consciousness of DNA in present-sense = MAN/Living-Creator, to wherever in an instant without the need for dead-corpse prosthetics like cars, bikes, aeroplanes, etc. Unfortunately, the brainwashing of NON-SENSE is so extensive that we have been trained to forget how to use SENSE to do this.

SENSE is water, is the breath of MAN, is the life of living-creator set into motion in present-sense. Refer to this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ze66_33wxM

In lineal terms, we can't go any further back than this FACT. These German linguists are saying that they have discovered a very old German language that goes right back to the very first alphabet letters made by MAN that was the birth of hieroglyphics, phonetics, etymology, cryptography. Not to say that Magyar wasn't happening then either, we don't know. The more we grow in purity and sincerity and the cleaner our bodies and brains, the more we will be able to remember and comprehend these things.

For us, it is interesting to learn this stuff about the alphabet languages and we are grateful that you and the German linguists are doing this research because it helps us become clearer as to how we gradually fell into non-sense, but the alphabet languages are not our primary focus because they are still of "The System", and therefore are not a remedy. We are focused on reconnecting with Nature http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A so that we can expand the water of our breath with the water of MANS lives/life and reconnect with all of Life/Nature.

When MAN is fully connected, we are FULLY plugged into every other sensory life form, inanimate or not; we are unlimited senses tuning in to unlimited sensory life forms, inanimate or not. As we have descended into distorted food, water, air, thoughts, feelings, dreams, poisons, chemicals, dead-corpse materials such as concrete, steel, plastic, bitumen, etc, we have unplugged more and more of our sensory connections until we have very, very few left. Instead, we have plugged into more and more non-sensory things, hence the darkness spreading all around, the cancer of sickness, disease, ageing (belief in birth-dates sets the image of "age" into motion), lies, fraud, deception, collusion, govern(men)ts, commerce, insurance, corporations, man-made-laws, oligarchy's, chaos, war, division through race, culture, creed, ignorance, fear, lies, brainwashing, etc), all the negative, destructive emotions such as fear, ridicule, arrogance, ignorance, greed, selfishness, hatred, rage, loneliness, emptiness, confusion, lack-of-direction, brain/sensory control, power trips, authority, fantasy, illusion, delusion, suicide, homelessness, poverty, starvation, malnutrition, etc, etc, etc.. We sense that ALL of the DNA of all sensory life-forms, inanimate or not, are found in MAN, be they pushed to "one" side or not, covered up or not, distorted or not.

In present-sense, WE, MAN, is LIVING-CREATOR.

The buck stops with us.

WE ARE THE POWER.

WE ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO CAN SET THOUGHTS/IMAGES INTO MOTION.

This is why it is so critical that we return to nature, sensory life, as soon as possible, healing our bodies with undistorted, raw-living food and water so that we can start unplugging from "The System" and plugging back into the information of sensory life.

We have started with a food-forest-garden at home but we want to expand this to a larger piece of land "The Steps Of Kindom": http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304 where many more of us can do it together, expanding the dream of life as we do so.

Life is a team effort; when we all learn from each other and help each other, we raise each other up through the purity and sincerity of our thoughts, feelings and actions. This is the quickest way to return to who we really are, to sense, consciousness, to life.

This is how we reconnect with ALL SENSORY IMAGES OF DNA.

Let's kiss goodbye to non-sense, to unconsciousness, to anti-life = death. Why don't you come and do it with us, and us with you, and expand our connection to DNA through the sharing of our breath, of our sensory lives, that is air, that is water, that is the sensory lives of our ancestors? Living this way, it is assured that we all live for freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, do no harm for all of life without causing loss of uniqueness/originality for everyone and everything of life and without the need for slaves and rulers. Isn't this what everyone dreams for?????

Imagine everyday waking up to no mortgages, no debts, no sheriffs, bailiffs, police, kings, queens, presidents, rulers, corporations, govern(men)ts, no worrying about getting the kids through school, keeping a roof over your head, NO SYSTEM...... just peace and tranquility ALL-AROUND living amongst a tribe of MAN who serve each other, living for each other as a/the gift of life. Just how fast can we then contemplate on the dream of life and expand who we really are with all that we are that is life/nature/MAN/living-creator, that is DNA.

Love and hugs for you Stephen
Arthur & Fiona Cristian

Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath) Part One
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23 February at 10:45

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HisRoyalslyness Gozaimasu Stone

It's exciting stuff Arthur, will be sure to keep U informed as things further progress.
I do agree that once apon a time in our most freshest original state we were indeed breathetarian where thru the living breath & the energetic symbiotic relationship we shared with the abundant nature environment we lived in where we energetically held frequency for it as much as it did so for us too & we were indeed simply able to sustain ourselves ingesting all of the elements in nature we required literally thru the air we breathed. Our bodies also held far more natural electrical charge too & we were able to manifest & dispose of all of our creations without ever harming the environment. I dare say that we were then able to communicate with each other sheerly thru sense & didn't even need to talk to communicate. Well, we are a long way away from our original state yet i find it exciting to know that at least somewhere along the way that there was an actual spoken language whose letter sounds were indeed of the same organic sounds we hear in nature, & indeed as we both well know, this is a great relief to know that at least we can rejoice the fact that not all of our spoken languages were created with artificial sounds that we don't hear in nature as with all the modern Leviathan distorted Romanized alphabet languages. In fact, i'm sure the Levite priests actually created all the Romanized alphabet languages from reverse polarising this original Phoenician Magyar language which most likely even dated back further beyond the time of what we know of the Phoenicians even re. it's origins.

I do know an old Hungarian who has pioneered the academic side of things re. this, yet he told me that i should write a book cos i arrived at the same conclusions as him but thru a slightly different independent direction/means/route.

If U do happen to run into a Aboriginal Shaman who knows the old language, he will indeed share much wisdom with U that will augment, expand & enhance further your already deep understanding of sense if U ask him the right questions.

Much love always to U & the family mate, sorry i had to tease U but kinda hard to resist cos as with us 'kNOw agers', we like to make each other think don't we? lol
And i was also looking for a way to lighten up this thread for all involved here without trolling it too hard with this info re. going too far off point. Just enough & too much all at the same time i guess lol...........................

23 February at 12:59

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Arthur Cristian

Enjoy this Stephen: http://youtu.be/OdNfueQbFaY

PFMPE, One Peoples Public Trust FAILS THE TEST
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One peoples public trust ( OPPT see page 26 ) assumes without any proof or quali...

23 February at 13:03

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Arthur Cristian

http://youtu.be/1hlj8PCB_y0

One Peoples Public Trust ( OPPT ) Fails the Test PT 2
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One Peoples Public Trust ( OPPT ) Fails the Test PT1 http://www.youtube.com/watc...

23 February at 13:04

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Arthur Cristian

Lots of love and hugs from us to you too Stephen. Love your response. All forms of his-story including "system science" story tellers acts like "carbon dating", "astrology", "astronomy", etc is ALL BULLSHIT. We've been saying for quite a while that our early ancestors before the fall were breathARYANS - remember Hitler and his search for the roots of their Aryan bloodlines?

23 February at 13:08

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HisRoyalslyness Gozaimasu Stone

We will talk again soon enough. The rabbit hole goes even deeper. Almost everything has been done in reverse. That is the main key to working this all out until U get to the info that hey hoard for themselves & make sure is not available to anyone outside their respective sphere of control. But, there are indeed other ways around that in order to get to it

24 February at 00:35

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Arthur Cristian

It's ALL in the water mate, everything comes through our ancestors as required/needed. The more we heal the faster we reconnect.

24 February at 00:47

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HisRoyalslyness Gozaimasu Stone

& water is one of the core elemental sounds of nature, & there is no separation between man & nature. All creation is music. Organic nature & it's elements has a particular sound to it & so does inorganic fiction

24 February at 02:21

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Kate Rene

the rabbits will chase their 24 carrot gold promises....if you carry cyst-em Id-entity YOU are the Id-entity in their image...it is pure idolatry and based in the vatican pogrom.....To even think of explaining my own surreal experinces of being time jumped, seeing the fabric of space time rip in front of you, waking up speaking a language you don't know etc. are the very things that others will never grasp unless THEY experience them....having no Id-entity.. period... has made life an utmost challenge to live in the basest sense but I do know this...I chose to stand in my own image and place no other mono-eye/money gods before me...I render unto Caesar that which is Caesars' that the dead may carry out the dead...I choose life at all costs....the options for me are clear...people will either stop serving the master/slave Id-entity paradigm and seek true creation/freedom or I die waiting for them to see gods they worship blindly...either way, I'm good...truth is the only master I serve and that is contained within me....ego says divide and conquer and that it must be right at all costs...same old same old that has worked all throughout our past...let me know when you've had enough of trying to solve the same problems with methods that have always failed....that is, by definition, insanity....as if voting/volting to elect(rify) a politician who spews the same lies as the last one is going to change anything....is pure madness....OPPT in?.....naw....I'll co-OPPT out, no masters required but me....

25 February at 03:56

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Kate Rene

System: Master says "slave, I will give you 10 lashes for questioning"....slave says....please master, only 5 lashes....masters says ......sure.....end result, slaves who serve their masters will only ever have that option

25 February at 03:58

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Margaret Taylor

Unfortunately, some people seem to have lost their minds

25 February at 04:53

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Margaret Taylor

And will argue to protect their insanity.

25 February at 04:53

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Tina van der Walt

Arthur Cristian, there is no use arguing with you, it really is your way or the highway like Max Igan, says, you sound so much like a doomsday cult member, you do know satan doesnt exist, do you??. none of what you say really makes sense, I dont really know who is your anger directed at?? You dont really have a foot to stand on

1 March at 04:53

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Magda Laas

I must say I don't agree with the 'satan does not exist' bit. Angels and demons...'good' aliens and 'bad' aliens. Why do they do satanic rituals in the Vatican??

1 March at 05:14

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Magda Laas

http://youtu.be/V0Y1Qg10pys

Aliens And The Vatican 2013
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Episode of Unsealed, regarding the UFO cover-up and the Vatican. ADG Facebook: h...

1 March at 05:27

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Tina van der Walt

they think Lucifer is their god, they pray to him, do the sacrifices for him etc. Like the jews worship Yahweh, the muslims Mohammed.

1 March at 05:27

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Tina van der Walt

I believe there are ET's off course, some of their ancestors were gods, the Annunaki god, some say, was Yahweh, some say Jesus was from the Pleiades. Satan was a creation of the Roman Catholic church, there is no such thing as hell either

1 March at 05:30

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Tomas Runnelskova

Right On Tina~!!

1 March at 06:53

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Arthur Cristian

@ Tina, you obviously have not been reading our posts in this thread, nor watching Love For Life videos nor reading Love For Life articles, to be clear and honest about what we are actually saying Satanism is. These claims you have made, the same as Max's claims, are SLANDER and are LIES. Do you realise you are LYING. Where have we made these claims/statements about Satan being something other than MAN, implying that Satan exists outside of present-sense as a fallen angel or whatever other Vatican or left brain bullshit images Max was/is dredging up? In this thread and in an another (see link below) we confronted Max and again explained our view on what Satanism is all about, but typically, he did not read it. Max admits this. This is IGNORANCE and is a blatant attack on our characters when you both make claims about what we're saying/implying Satanism is, a claim that we have never said.

After asking MAX to back his claims over and over again, almost two weeks has now passed and he is yet to do this. Are you aware of this? Now we are asking you to back your claims. Show us the facts/evidence of these claims you have made about us. If you read what is posted in this thread (we will copy below our post to Max from this thread that explains our view on satanism) and is posted in another, see link below, you will see that you are both in the "practice" and "craft" of performing Satanism.

So what is this Satanism Arthur & Fiona Cristian are saying?

Here is a video we posted to YouTube 24 hours or so ago which is close to hitting 2000 views. It again explains, from our perspective, what Satanism is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qjp_9nlrBao

Copied from this thread.............

"Satanism is the practice of creating non-sense images and putting them into peoples brains through remote projection (there are many ways to do this) so that they fall into the belief of those images and set them into motion, carry them out, as in Little Mary now performing Alice in Wonderland, Billy performing Bob the Builder, Sally performing ABC, etc, etc,. We are all the victims of this through all the false images we are subjected to daily and we are so accustomed to having image after image put into our heads that we don't notice it happening and we think the images are just part of the normal river of thoughts flowing through our brains; we don't know which are our unique/original thoughts and which come from somewhere else. Used to spin spells, Satanists are brilliant non-sense "story tellers'."

All UFO's, Aliens, Satan as a fallen angel, etc, ARE MAN-MADE IMAGES.

The other FB thread: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=373718059401806

OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit Part One Love For Life Arthur Cristian
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This video is an explanation about why you should not sign the OPPT, unless you ...

1 March at 11:31

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Arthur Cristian

http://youtu.be/tbybeOWZ-Bc

OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit Part Two Love For Life Arthur Cristian
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1 March at 12:01

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Brett Anderson

Still waiting for Max to answer the questions put to him from the start before all the defensive maneuvering and diversion tactics took place. I guess his followers are still free to follow him over the cliff of the OPPT scam.

1 March at 12:23

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Arthur Cristian

From another post: "Likewise, we have not attacked you the MAN, though we may not agee with some of of your views, we honour your perspectives, etc, and read/listen to them. We are just saying that some of us have to come together, no matter the circumstances, to make Kindom happen in present sense, otherwise the circumstances will be the reason why we never come together to create our true freedom. Yes, this attitude may have others believe we are saying "my way or the highway" but such views/beliefs are not true about us. We are all thirsty for freedom, some think it's over there, others think it's over here, while more again think it's just too far away, yet in present-sense, we are all standing around the edge of the very waterhole that will quench all our thirst for freedom. Who is the first to dip in and take a drink? If you don't have young children why don't you move over here to Australia and do it with us and us with you? We are talking about the freedom of ALL of MAN across Earth here. We ONLY need to get one Kindom off the ground to establish precedence, a living example of MANS true freedom without the circumstances of belief getting in the way. We must all throw belief out the door. In the middle of the word belief is the word lie and in the middle of the word lie is "i" and "i" is the greatest lie of all. "The Steps Of Kindom" http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

The Steps Of Kindom by Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 2006 to 2012 | Love for Life
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Links to "The Steps Of Kindom" http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304 orhttp://loveforlife.com.au/node/5788
or
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8256

1 March at 12:47

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Magda Laas

I really don't think OPPT has anything to do with satanism though!

1 March at 15:53

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Arthur Cristian

From our view it does, again we repeat what Satanism is... copied from above which was copied from above........... "Satanism is the practice of creating non-sense images and putting them into peoples brains through remote projection (there are many ways to do this) so that they fall into the belief of those images and set them into motion, carry them out, as in Little Mary now performing Alice in Wonderland, Billy performing Bob the Builder, Sally performing ABC, etc, etc,. We are all the victims of this through all the false images we are subjected to daily and we are so accustomed to having image after image put into our heads that we don't notice it happening and we think the images are just part of the normal river of thoughts flowing through our brains; we don't know which are our unique/original thoughts and which come from somewhere else. Used to spin spells, Satanists are brilliant non-sense "story tellers'."

1 March at 15:57

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Arthur Cristian

Are you not a "citizen" ("person"/"self") performing commerce in a private corporation jurisdiction like a "country" or a "nation" called "Commonwealth Of Australia", etc, registered under the U.C.C? If yes, now think this out.... we now have the umbrella of a new world corporation superimposing its U.C.C. jurisdiction over all "citizens" of Earth", called C.V.A.C or not, a ONE Planet, ONE People, ONE System corporation government, registered under the U.C.C.

As a "citizen", under the statute "law" of U.C.C, there will be statues in place, amongst the tens of thousands of statutes, for all "citizens" under U.C.C jurisdiction giving "rights" to their U.C.C. "nations"/etc to accept jurisdiction of a ONE WORLD Corporation Government like C.V.A.C, over their jurisdiction while in the meantime, all citizens/persons/selfs are told you do not have to do anything about this, its all been taken care off.

Is OPPT registered under the U.C.C?

Yes.

Are all involved behind OPPT "citizens"/"persons" under the jurisdiction of the U.C.C?

Yes.

Bar this MAN, Arthur Cristian, is there anyone else you know not under the U.C.C, meaning using "name" to perform money/currentcy in any way whatsoever?

What we are saying here is everyone with "name" (tied to commerce) has already agreed, regardless of filing/signing a OPPT form or not, for their "nation"/"country" to be merged under C.V.A.C.

Of course they say you do not have to sign any form because you already have via statute, and while you remain a "citizen" under the rulings of the U.C.C, and all "citizens" do not rebutt OPPT claims, you the "citizen", DO NOT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING, (they are not lying), then ALL "persons"/"selfs"/"citizens" have permitted those behind O.P.P.T and the U.C.C to push ahead with their ONE WORLD CORPORATION AGENDA to rule over all citizens under U.C.C law across Earth. Is this any different to current politics and all those of law etc, all persons registered under U.C.C (which operates outside borders and boundaries - it embraces all of Earth and probably all of space), being voted in and doing whatever they like, despite everyone complaining about what is going on? Isn't this how all citizens under U.C.C got into this present mess in the first place? ............LOL...............

1 March at 15:58

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Magda Laas

Fuck satanism. What is really your point. You don't like OPPt...so ignore it!!

1 March at 15:58

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Arthur Cristian

OPPT is a "spell" Magda as is CVAC. Watch the Love For Life videos and prove what we are saying is a lie. We can back our claims 100% and have been doing this since we got involved in routing out all the non-sense images of OPPT and now CVAC.

1 March at 16:04

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Magda Laas

If you are strong in yourself a spell can do nothing to you. Fear makes you weak. The days that fear runs the world is over. People are beginning to realise their inner strength.

1 March at 16:11

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Arthur Cristian

Then why follow the "image" of OPPT. This is an ancient satanic practice.

1 March at 16:22

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Magda Laas

It does not mean if I read about satanism I am following it. It does not mean if I read about OPPT I am following it. I only follow my nose at the moment. I am not into any religion or any thing that replaces it. I think people are curious about OPPT and are finding out about it. Most countries are corporations and the banks are corrupt. I think that is what people want to stop and how can that be wrong. I don't think OPPT is a religion for them. The ones who make it a religion will make anything a religion. It is not your task or responsibility to 'save' people from whatever. They must do it themselves. So relax and have a good day. LOL!

1 March at 16:35

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Arthur Cristian

Magda, have you really stopped to contemplate on the bigger picture? Do you comprehend what is really going on and why we got involved to break down OPPT and CVAC? Have you read the article about Laurel Canyon? It's all about why and who created the hippy flower power movement and how it was used to hijack the real-freedom-truth movement that started in America during the late 1950's to the mid 1970's, and how they used free love, sex, drugs, etc,to derail it. It was all about damage control. The same goes on now with OPPT/CVAC. "We Will Lead Every Revolution Against Us". Do you comprehend how this works in your every day life? Your sentiments are aligned with ours however, it is the lost all around us that make prisoners out of our children too. Then you have to ask the question how does that happen, how can that be? And this is why you need to learn what we have been learning since 1972, so you can sense/see/comprehend what is really going on.

1 March at 16:50

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Magda Laas

I understand what you are saying. If every single one of us stop being afraid of 'them' and what they can do to us they will be completely powerless. I know that NOTHING can ever touch my soul. I was 5 yrs old when 'a voice' said that to me. So I don't even fear death.

1 March at 17:01

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Arthur Cristian

We get that Magda, we have a lot in common however we have innocent children who need to be protected because if we don't stop this madness the cloud of the ONE world government will cast its shadow over them, which means if they are under this cloud so is everyone else, hence why we are determined to bring down OPPT & CVAC from within and from without. They will not win. They all run away, they can't even debate with us, All they can do is slander, lie while attacking our characters. It's good to see many waking up to what is really going on. They cannot stop truth from spreading - the heart of MAN is indestructible.

1 March at 17:08

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Margaret Taylor

Thank you Arthur for making the spell tangible enough for some to comprehend.

1 March at 21:14

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Brett Anderson

Magda Laas: Its a big bad world out there and deciphering it and being weary of all its deceptions and spells has nothing to do with fear. Nothing is black and white, satanism is not going look like a red devil with pointy ears, it masquerades as all sorts of wonderful things that promises love and freedom but the truly aware warrior needs to question everything and ask the hard questions, not be a slave to emotional idealistic responses. You need to listen to your own rhetoric. On one hand you say people must stop being afraid, be strong so nothing can affect them and just do it for themselves, you even accuse Arthur of trying to save everyone..yet you contradict yourself completely by championing OPPT! Isn't OPPT claiming to be saving everyone? Why do you need to part of OPPT if all you need to be is 'strong so nothing can affect you' and you can do it for yourself? You criticize religion but you defend OPPT like a religion! Strong aware people don't follow groups and movements like lemmmings, they are continually questioning the status quo and using their mind to be the leader of themselves not following the leader. "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect".

1 March at 23:15

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Arthur Cristian

Awesome post Brett ---- WOW

1 March at 23:09

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Magda Laas

NOBODY knows everything and we are all learning and exploring.

2 March at 04:09

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Magda Laas

http://www.illuminati-news.com/00363.html

| Illuminati News | Dialogue with "Hidden Hand", Self-Proclaimed Illuminati Insider
www.illuminati-news.com
All this chaos, genocide, ethnic cleansing and disaster we see in this world hav...

2 March at 04:09

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Arthur Cristian

It's a red herring Magda - One lie mixed in truths corrupts the wholeness of truth same as a drop of black into pure white distorts pure white. While truth does no damage, the lie can destroy everything. Watch out for white-washing/white-anting tactics. Remember, we/MAN are the only ones who can set images/thoughts into motion. The lie/s not detected creates the fog of distraction (images of the lies we are focusing on and setting them into motion) causing us to not sense what is really going on all around us.. The wool has been pulled over our eyes. Welcome to the "craft" and "practice" of black-magic.

2 March at 15:42

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Magda Laas

whatever

2 March at 15:43

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Arthur Cristian

Can you work out what is really going on in this video? A clue.... separate the non-sense images from sensory/sense images.

2 March at 15:47

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Brett Anderson

You can lead a horse to water...

2 March at 21:32

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Arthur Cristian

It's in the BEin Brett!

2 March at 21:34

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Arthur Cristian

A Moment In The Life Under CVAC......

Can I see your BEin identify please?

No, I've only got my divine-heart, will that do?

Sorry, but its company policy that you must have the BEin certification before you can have access to water today. It's been announced that from tomorrow, you need to bring your Universal Contract to gain access to corporation benefits.

OK, thanks.....

2 March at 21:41

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Arthur Cristian

OK, just saw your post. For starters ask Heather to read the two posts below and ask her is she prepared to back her claims by signing a notarised affidavit under her full commercial liability? If yes, we will put forward three questions based on OPPT FACTS written in legalese formed as OPPT & CVAC documents, which she must answer in the affidavit. Off to bed for rest - look forward to hearing from Heather shortly.

5 March at 23:19

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Arthur Cristian

You Are Stock Of A Corporation Without Rights - The Scam Behind OPPT & CVAC - This is a quick overview of Part 3 coming out later this week: OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit. You and your family gave your "rights" away long ago. As stock, everything has been taken care of by your stock-holders, you don't have to do anything, this includes signing and filing. The MAN is the captain of the vessel that is the "person"/'self", the "name", containing the manifest of its stock. All stock has a value which makes up the collective value of commerce. The vessel is also stock; it has been valued. Every country/state/nation/etc, is a warehouse for the stock of that country with ports for the coming and going of the vessel with its stock.

Every item of stock created (the person/name) is given a value. We don't know what that value is. The person is the vessel and the stock of the person is the acts the person performs in "The System"; engineer, father of 2, home owner, keen fisherman. This is all his value.

No value = no commerce.

The birth certificate is the registration of new stock entering the warehouse with a given value.

We are stock creating stock (children) and registering it as "names", and because the "name" has value, what we create has value; they have "names" too.

All the values in "The System" come from the values that are placed on the person. It is your value that determines the mortgage, not the value of the land which has no value because it cannot be owned. If land was owned, very little commerce would ensue, if any.

As a person, you are the Captain sailing your ship of value on the seas of commercial value. As Captain of your ship, you look after the manifest that is being traded on the stock-market of the seas of commercial value, that includes the shopping malls, the shoppers, the shop assistants, the managers and the cleaners are all performing their values to make up the sea of commerce, the sea of value.

You get paid for the value of your stock.

Now, thanks to the OPPT, based on their claims, every name registered to every warehouse in every country has been taken over by a One World Warehouse, a global corporation. We are now under CVAC instead of under the Commonwealth of Australia or the United States of America. The UCC oversees all commerce so the OPPT is filed under the UCC as a vessel.

The people behind OPPT and CVAC are telling you the truth when they say you don't have to do anything; they are attempting to take over ALL warehouses and the stock does not have to sign/contract, etc, because it already is registered to the warehouse. The administrators of the warehouse carry the responsibility for the stock. The OPPT is the instrument for the negotiation of the transfer of stock. It is the broker, doing the marketing and sealing the deal. CVAC is the client who is taking over the stock and renaming the warehouses.

A person has no rights because it is registered as stock. At law, in fiction, it is dead-stock, so how can dead-stock have any say?

Your name has already been signed over to the warehouse of your country, overseen by authorised representatives as in attorneys of law, etc. We give our children's rights away as we have given our rights away in exchange for the benefits, the commerce, of "The System".

The operators of the warehouse are dealing with human traffic that is the stock of all "names".

While you may not think you are being physically forced to move to another warehouse, the "intellectual property" of your "name" was moved. You gave those "rights' away long ago to human traffickers of the Bar & politics to do whatever they want, they are the administrators of your vessels warehouse.

The United States is the warehouse for the stock of America in a dead "state". It is The United Dead ("States").

Many good people were/are caught up in churches, religions, workforce, politics, big-business, etc. There are many good people caught up in OPPT as well however this does not negate the FACT that OPPT is being used to traffic hue-man stock for and under the umbrella of CVAC. The evidence of their intention is in their own documents. CVAC seeks to continue performing commerce with a central bank at its core and OPPT is the face of this COMPELLING transition.

To stop being used as stock you have to give up all the benefits which means stop renting/using the "name" for ANYTHING of "The System".

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit
Part One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qjp_9nlrBao
Part Two: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbybeOWZ-Bc
Part Three:
Part Four:

Link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/112774622244094

OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit Part One Love For Life Arthur Cristian
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This video is an explanation about why you should not sign the OPPT, unless you ...

5 March at 23:21

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Arthur Cristian

OPPT-IN..........

Quick breakdown of OPPT Courtesy/Curtesy Notice...... (wake up everyone - you are ALL being deceived/tricked/conned).

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s480x480/394585_2...

Courtesy: Scotch law. A right which vests in the husband, and is in the nature of a life-rent. ---- RIGHT ----- LIFE-RENT

Curtesy: The estate to which by common law a man is entitled, on the death of his wife, in the lands or tenements of which she was seised iu possession in fee-simple or in tail (luring her coverture, provided they have had lawful issue born alive which might have been capable of inheriting the estate. It is a freehold estate for the term of his natural life. . Initiate and consummate. Curtesy initiate is the interest which a husband has in his wife’s estate after the birth of issue capable of inheriting, and before tlie death of the wife; after her death, it becomes an estate “by the curtesy consummate.” ------ COMMON LAW ---- E-STATE ---- FREEHOLD ESTATE FOR THE TERM OF HIS NATURAL RIGHT

Now lets forget about Common Law for now because we are in present-sense 2013ad and not way back pre 1900s/1800's/1700's/etc. All OPPT docs are written in legalese under UCC jurisdiction, meaning they are commercial in nature abiding by statute rulings. They are not common law docs. Lets also forget about gender because under UCC no stock can discriminate against another stock, there is an equal "level playing field" - male/female are compelled under statute rulings.

CVAC is all about bringing back Common Law Under UCC rulings - UCC = commerce. Common Law way back is commerce . Serfs/Commoners = COMMON = Commoners who were paying taxes to their Land Lords/Barons/etc in the form of a % of their seasonal produce, labour, services, etc. This is commerce in the form of common law. If the slaves (serfs/commoners/renters) did not perform/deliver/supply their "values" to their masters, their rulers could remove them from their land, boot them out, or even kill all the family which happened back then.

In a nut shell, we now have the CVAC warehouse of many warehouses as the Land-Lord/Baron overseeing all land across Earth. All stock are the persons/names under CVAC/UCC jurisdiction ruled by UCC rulings provided with a life-rent (notice the word rent). All stock will have this land-right. So we are now back to serfs/commoners performing in commerce again with an Oligarchy hiding behind the TRUST of CVAC performing (DICTATING) as the Government of ONE Planet - ONE People - ONE System (notice the word "system").

Heather said "you get out of the system what you put into it. If you are not putting any value into the system, then you have no right to take any value from the system." This means that the representatives of CVAC can remove your land rights if your contribution is not deemed to be of sufficient value. So here we have the very same SLAVE (serf/commoner/renter) problem that billions of us and our ancestors have been trying to get away from. We are going out of the frying pan and into the fire. In the old days, if we were kicked of the Baron's land, we at least had the chance to go somewhere else and try to start again under another landlord. But what happens now that our Baron controls ALL the land - where can we go if we don't fit in or we don't produce enough "value"?? Could it be the liquidation camps for those of "lesser value"???? And who determines the value?

And notice the word eSTATE = ecclesiastical state which is the black-magic "spell" of your slave state-us (status and DEAD status). Magna Carta, Bill of Rights, etc, did not exist for the commoners/serfs/slaves because they were not on the radar, they were seen as scum, goi/goy/cattle, etc. They had no "rights". Magna Carta etc were for the elite, the privileged, etc. Serfs/Commoners could not even read and write any alphabet language until after 1780AD and still more than 90% were illiterate even up to 1930AD.

How can you you take FULL-responsibility for your life when you are just a renter under this CVAC trust that is in between you and the land/nature. Where is MANS true freedom? With CVAC you are under limited-liability/responsibility because you are answerable to the Oligarchy and they are interceding in your life. Where is the freedom and where is the true freedom of the generations to come, particularly our children and their children........ And

ARE NOT ALL MEN EQUAL - NO MAN MASTER OF ANOTHER MAN?

There is more to all of this to be covered in Part 3 of the video. See if you can work out the rest of this terrible scam.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s480x480/394585_2...
fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net

5 March at 23:21

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Chris Mansergh

The way I see it Arthur, whether we all exist under the "old pre-OPPT system" or the "new post-OPPT system", you and Fiona and Love for Life will be able to continue to exist as well, and you will be able to continue to pursue the Steps to Kindom, which I wholeheartedly support. It doesn't seem to really matter which system exists - the PTB will be ensuring, for the foreseeable future anyway, through their military power, that a system of some sort exists. The new system at least doesn't appear to take anything away from us, and seems to give us more wriggle-room to make changes to the way we live. At least, it gives us more options next time we are confronted by the old system. It might not be perfect, or the end result, maybe just another tiny step on the path of progress. And it is completely optional, no one is being forced to go along with it. So, since it does not appear to threaten your ability to continue on your chosen Kindom remedy, why fight against it? You can co-exist, can't you? Its no worse than what we already have, is it? I just don't understand why you feel the need to rail against it so virulently. It comes across like you are trying to restrict peoples' freedom of choice, their right to research and choose for themselves, which could be seen as a little patronizing. Why is it so necessary to fight against it?

8 March at 19:02

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Arthur Cristian

http://youtu.be/yOWoxH-HbVwPart

OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit Part Three Love For Life Arthur Cristian
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Although Many People Were Preparing Filings And Affidavits For The OPPT Under UC...

8 March at 20:11

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Dean Viall

Wow Chris - very fascist comment

8 March at 20:17

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Chris Mansergh

Really? Please explain Dean.

8 March at 20:37

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Arthur Cristian

Chris, do you and will you accept a little bit of harm (cancer) in your body there and a little bit of harm in your body over here and a little bit of harm in your body down there and a little bit of harm in your body wherever else and your immune system says "look guys we're happy to share this body with you guys, let's divvy up the body between us; you can have your harm in this part of the body and we'll have this part of the body where no harm can be."???

But how do we stop the harm part from spreading into the no harm part down-the-line?

How can we have a Kindom here and "The System", under whatever guise, there when "The System" is all about a few men and women having power and control over everything and everyone?

Are people like these blatant harm-doers going to just let us have our Kindoms and leave us alone?

Don't you think there already would be Kindoms everywhere if those behind "The System" weren't doing their best to keep us in the brain-set of "The System"?

Currently, the harm that is "The System" is spreading without cease, gradually consuming more and more of Earth. How can we have a chemical spill in the harm part and have it not effect the no harm part? What about the air and atmosphere when they hit it with nuclear contamination of the worst kind?

If you have read and comprehended "The Spell Is Broken", link provided below, you'll see that we and everyone else involved (and there are many more of us to come), live to smash "The System" to smithereens in this life-time, not the next one or the one after that..... IN THIS LIFETIME mate. The dream of Kindom has no room to co-exist with the military industrial complex, the war machines, the Freemasonic/Satanic warlocks and witches casting "spells" causing MAN to become a harm doer, etc. Their world is finished and we stand that ground to end it once and for all in this lifetime. The more of us who live this dream the faster we accelerate the outcome of this determination. There is nowhere in this Kindom dream where these harm-doers can exist. It's all over for them Chris. They either change and become peaceful or they self-destruct wiping each other out which most of MAN will do the utmost to not let it happen. Life is a dream so lets live the dream that brings freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, do no harm for all of life, no loss of uniqueness/originality for everyone and everything and no slaves and rulers. Life is in our image, in our collective co-creation. In present-sense, lets live the dream that creates that in this life.

The OPPT is not optional - your person has already been encompassed under the filing of the OPPT document - did they ask you if you wanted to be included? Were you given full disclosure as to exactly what the OPPT meant for you and your loved ones? All you are told is to Be and Do and send out courtesy notices to people who will most likely ignore them. Watch Part 3 of the "OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit" video, embedded above, it covers this ground and the courtesy notice. If there were somewhere on Earth that we could go where "The System" does not intrude, don't you think we wouldn't be there by now? Along with all the other men and women who don't want their lives interfered with.

The Spell Is Broken
Taking The Land To Create Kindom
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8365

The Spell Is Broken - Taking The Land To Create Kindom by Arthur & Fiona Cristian Love For Life 3rd.
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Images make up our lives and without them, we wouldn't exist. They are at the co...

8 March at 20:51

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Arthur Cristian

@ Blue Star Love - Part 3 is now up, embedded above in this thread. Please watch and get Heather and co to watch it as well. Let us know when you have all watched it..... is important that you have watched and comprehended parts 1 & 2. All the best - Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life

8 March at 21:12

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Phree Wil

Truth doesn't need boxing gloves.

8 March at 21:30

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Dean Viall

you've all heard this, right?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGjfKnAjnNI

Winston Shrout Talking about Truth of OPPT UCC Filing
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Host Linda Joslin interviews Winston Shrout. Winston Shrout has established hims...

8 March at 21:35

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Chris Mansergh

Many thanks Arthur. Cancer may be a tough one to beat! But our immune systems when healthy are quite capable of dealing with most normal infections that come and go. Whether these systems are a cancer or an infection I can't judge myself, but I'd be inclined toward infection as it gives us much more hope of an eventual cure!!! But regardless, people are setting up Kins Domains even now under the old system, have been for many years. Are you saying they wont be able to continue to do that under the new system? I know you have a particular model for a Kins Domain, but still I don't think that invalidates other peoples' attempts to manifest their own dreams of Kins Domains right now, in what ever forms that takes. Regarding whether participation in the new system is optional or not, as far as I can tell it is optional from the point of view that, though it IS the new reality under UCC law and they are therefore automatically eligible to take part in it, people can continue the status quo and go along with the existing system for as long as that system exists, or for as long as that system keeps denying the new reality. And likewise any of us are free to serve notice on the old system that we are no longer under them, using the OPPT method, and start participating in the new system. So, once again, I just want to ask you, is there anything inherently worse about the new system than the old system?

8 March at 21:47

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Arthur Cristian

Yes there is. Part 3 clearly explains the overall view of this inherent nightmare - "Argue for your limitations and sure enough they're yours". You accept harm in present sense then you have harm in present sense. You can talk yourself into anything Chris, like wearing rose coloured glasses, justify anything you wan't, be armed with all the information you could possibly need to validate your position, as you have done thus far in this thread, but even this still doesn't create "community immunity" to stop harm-doers in their tracks from spreading harm upon you and and all your loved ones mate. Such attitudes provide no certainty however if enough of us get together to cause an action so powerful to inspire MAN all across Earth to rise up and put an end to "The System" forevermore WILL provide us with the certainty to move on peacefully with our lives and the lives of all our descendants to come. We choose the later.

8 March at 22:27

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Arthur Cristian

@ Phre Wii. but all information needs to be SCRUTINISED and not just accepted at face value leaving it untested.

8 March at 22:29

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Barry Lyndon

i always thought winston was carabean,it just goes to show his voice under that hood worked

8 March at 22:47

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Phree Wil

@Arthur - It was a blanket statement, not aimed at anyone specifically. Having said that, I'm leaning towards your side of the conversation in this particular thread - I've never felt quite settled with regards to OPPT (or whatever it's called). I am of the opinion that you can't fight the system, period - all it does is add more energy and focus to the one thing that shouldn't be getting ANY energy or attention.

8 March at 23:12

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Arthur Cristian

@ Basrry. Winston lives for "The System". Who is his master?

8 March at 23:15

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Arthur Cristian

@ Phree - Agreed, amazes us how we give our life-energy to the very images that enslave us.

8 March at 23:16

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Phree Wil

The link to the discussion with Max Igan: https://www.facebook.com/mai.k.hartvagzimbleman/posts/444883058914689 - The link has been removed. I wonder why..

8 March at 23:18

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Arthur Cristian

Just checked, it's still up - we have it posted here as well: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8357

Max Igan & The Fraud Of The OPPT (One Peoples Public Trust) - Facebook Discussion With Arthur & Fion
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The One Peoples Public Trust (OPPT); we are saying that it is not a remedy. We h...

8 March at 23:21

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Phree Wil

Ok cool, thanks. Was checking your wall.. there's a whole bunch of people who actually take the time and energy to post nasty comments to and about your Self. It always amazes me that the ones who talk the most shit are the ones who DO the least. I wouldn't take any of it personally Arthur, they sit around all day and troll the internet, watch a few YouTube videos, read a few blogs and they think they have it all figured out.

Mud pies, that's all it is, mud pies. You can't be angry at them, they don't know any better. For, if they truly KNEW, they would understand that arguing is the exact thing that the powers-that-be want, it creates division, and division is precisely what they need.. because if we were all unified, we wouldn't be in this shit-hole in the FIRST place.

8 March at 23:39

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Arthur Cristian

Well said mate....

8 March at 23:45

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Katja Jordan-King

After reading through everything posted here I come away with a feeling of great appreciation for Arthur. My have they put you through the ringer and you are still fighting! What a wonderful human being you are. Thanks for caring. And you too Fiona!

26 March at 11:11

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Michelle Kenny

I second that, Kaja

26 March at 12:46

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The Cristian Family November 2006

Another Facebook Conversation
Between Max Igan And Arthur & Fiona Cristian


2nd July 2013

Max Igan sent us this Facebook PM Wednesday 2nd July 2013 16.07pm

Max Igan sent us this Facebook PM Wednesday 2nd July 2013 16.07pm: "Hopefully this REALITY will give you pause to question your actions before spreading lies, hatred and false information about others in future Arthur... have a nice day brother. :) https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10151533809384022&id=1... "

We replied....................................

Max, the issue here is we stand for NO SYSTEM. We will do everything we can to expose and obliterate any idea or concept, sugar coated or not, that supports "The System", a man-made system under any guise. The NWO is "The System" under another guise, it will look something like Star Trek Federation in Nature. The NWO will be brought in by all the "Good Guys" bringing a new "oneness order system" to the present chaos engineered by the "Bad Guys". We know all the trickery going on to give the "duped", the impression that "serfs/commoners" are making headway with the courts of "The System".

Having some mini "slave victories" is allowed by FORCE. If they want covert control to remain in tact, they can't always be seen to be despotic/overt. This is allowed to happen and besides, the FORCE behind "The System" have planned, when it suits them and when they are ready, to cause the present western world system to completely collapse so they can usher in their next "oneness" version of it. As an example of many: One Peoples Public Trust now called One People.........

ONE PEOPLE

ONE SPIRIT

ONE WORLD - World means "The System" - the world is not Earth/Nature.

ONE HUMANKIND - Hue-MAN - a shade/colour/reflection/shadow of MAN - In this case the reflection/image projected by a MAN upon another MAN is "oneness". The intention is to trap a MAN under another MANS image-power/spell which happens when a MAN believes in the "story-telling" (spells) of "oneness". This is blatant social engineering.

MANKIND/HUMANKIND - means a kind of MAN as in monster, monstrosity, distorted, brainwashed, idiot, fool, robot, clone, drone, slave, etc. We are MAN, all unique and original, not one the same as the next. Mankind/Humankind re-presents a shattered reality.

ONENESS means SAMENESS as in Communism and Socialism - The correct word to use here instead of one/oneness is WHOLE/WHOLENESS (meaning: NO SYSTEM) which recognises the uniqueness and originality of all of MAN without conformity to social engineering which "oneness" (sameness) is all about.

"One" is lineal, has a beginning and an end (finite), therefore is trauma based (explained further down), is a lie, believers commit fraud when they claim "one"/"oneness" is true. "One" is projected, based, imagined in/from the past and in/from the future (explained further down). "One" does not exist, is non-sensory, meaning you can't sense "one", you can only fantasise "one" because "one" is not present with the presence of life embodied in its image to sense (touch, taste, feel, smell, hear, see) it. Thanks to trauma, "One"/"Oneness" re-presents a shattered reality.

Note: Children brought up in the "wild" by "wild dogs", etc ("The System" brainwashing calls them "wild animals" in the "wild" of nature as in dark, scary, hostile, not safe environment), who are discovered and brought back to "The System" (civilisation) do not recognise the reflection of themselves in the mirror. These reflections are seen in "3rd person" and until "The System" brainwashing sets in they always communicate in 3rd person This is exactly what we would all do if we were truly conscious (not brainwashed) because there is no 1st or 3rd person. All is WHOLE. However, from "The System" side of looking through the window of our extensive repetitive, pounding, brainwashing we see everything of 3rd person as 1st person, i.e, "name" on birth certificate, drivers license, "one"/"oneness", etc, believing these reflections is who we really are when in fact these reflections are not who we really are. Someone else trained us to think, feel and act in this way. Again, recently a Russian girl, around 11 years of age was discovered. She was brought up by wolves since around age 3. She did not recognise her "i" (eye) in the mirror and communicated in 3rd person. If she was with her family of MAN living in the "wilds" and raised by tribal-MAN all around her and without "The System" brainwashing she would be a living WHOLE example of conscious-living-MAN on land in present-sense. Currently, for those of us really waking up, it may appear to the brainwashed that we are talking in 3rd person about Nature, Earth, MAN, Life, but when we are using our senses we sense/see, in present-sense, that we are air, water, leaves, trees, birds, wind, sunlight, rain, dogs, mountains, river, Earth, Nature, Life, etc, etc.... The first party/person "i","i", "i", "mine", "mine", "mine", "own", "own", "own", "one", "one", "one", etc, (shattered reality), does not exist and without it there is no 3rd person ("i"/"one")) either because we are already WHOLE, meaning we are already the unique and original of that WHOLENESS.

All these "successes" that you are seeing, and will continue to see, are part of the orchestrated plan, the blueprint, the agenda. Many of these victories, with a vast majority still to come, require a team effort of actors (judges, barristers, lawyers, politicians, priests, experts, plants portrayed as heroes, etc, etc), all in on the scam to dupe the people into believing, now and down-the-line, that the "bad guys" world is collapsing and the "Good Guys" are winning. Unless we keep waking the people up, the duped will not see/sense they have been had, got-at & set-up. They will not see/sense how they have been deceived into accepting "THE SYSTEM" GLUE of "oneness" binding them all together as "one people", "one spirit", "one consciousness", "one system", etc, etc.

This is not the first time those of "The System" have collapsed one version of "The System" and brought in another version (the phoenix rising out of the ashes - order out of chaos). They need to have the "bad guys" exposed by the "good guys" (hello Heather) so that we all start looking around for something better but very few wake up to the fact that the "something better" is just the next version of "The System" the duped are blindly being led into, with the same image-power-based families behind the scenes, the heads of the Star Trek "Federation in Nature".

We all know that they cannot use overt means to keep us under control. There are too many of us and they would have to be in constant struggle against us because we would rebel. So they use covert means to guide us into submission through propaganda that plays on our trauma, causing enough reaction in us to keep us malleable and enslaved. The marketing campaign for their 1000 year Golden Reign is obviously not going to come about with overt displays of force. Far easier to get us wanting, asking and longing for their 1000 year Golden reign. It's not as if the Knight's Templars have not already done this many times before, coming out as the heroes to rescue us from slavery, tyranny and oppression.

We don't see anything here that has not been done before with different processes. There are many "successes" in all areas of protest using law. Why? Apart from occasions where magistrates, etc, are just not good enough to think fast on their feet and deal with clever men and women who have done their homework, when we have and see successes, we are encouraged and think we are on to something and keep investing more and more of our energy into our processes which means more and more of our energy into "The System". Do you think they care?????? So long as we are still putting our energy into "The System", they are happy because it is our energy that keeps "The System" going. We have already explained this to you in great detail. They do not care how much we protest and argue just so long as we keep using their information, sleeping in their houses and using their private corporations. Which is what everyone involved in One People is doing. They are all still plugged in.

We could start bragging about the many successes Arthur has had against "The System", some involving $300k to others where tens of thousands of dollars were spent trying to get Arthur (and Fiona) to pay the SDRO a measly amount of $$, but these victories are still not a remedy that gets everyone out of "The System". With the method that Arthur has developed over the last couple of years, NO PAPERWORK is required. He is strong and smart enough to blow them all out of the water really fast. Recently, even the SDRO have sent him a letter offering Arthur to take back his drivers licence... LOL... all this after trying everything to con Arthur (and Fiona) into contracting with them. Refer to Letter Received From Roads & Maritime Services Offering Arthur Cristian His Drivers License Back - LOL - 11th June 2013: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8450 - If it wasn't for the children and the 4 assassination attempts, Arthur would be journeying on the road without plates, licence or anything and they would have to kill him to stop him, but, at present, the family does not have the support it needs for him to do this without leaving them vulnerable. And even then, being a Ned Kelly is not a remedy, which is why we prefer to focus on what we can do to bring about remedy as soon as possible.

Why no system? Because when you peel back all the layers, the dark heart of "The System" is all about trauma; trauma is behind everything of "The System", even the "good" bits. There is nothing in "The System" that can help us return to lives as conscious MAN on the land or help us create freedom, truth, joy, etc, for ALL, not just those who can do the paperwork. "The System" is all about greed and selfishness - it is what we are indoctrinated into and it is only by turning our backs on EVERYTHING of "The System" that we can remember who we are and begin the de-programming.
A lot of our Love For Life work is about exposing all the tricks of those behind "The System" so that we don't all follow along blindly down their Yellow Brick Road.

We were all once tribes of MAN on land, living with NO SYSTEM. This is where we have to return if we want true freedom, freedom from trauma. As you can see if you are willing, Max, what's going on with One People is only showing us who is taking the first steps down the Yellow Brick Road, who is still caught up in the codes, squiggles and digits, in the past and the future of System Life.

You said, "Hopefully this REALITY will give you pause to question your actions before spreading lies, hatred and false information about others in future Arthur... have a nice day brother."

What we are doing, Max, is exposing everybody who wants the system in any guise because anything to do with "The System" is lies, deception, hatred and false information and all of it is trauma based. This is why we live for no system. You have yet to say that you live for no system. Everyone who is connected to this deception will want "The System". Can you let everyone know where you stand on this, Max?

For more on trauma refer below.

All the best
Arthur & Fiona Cristian

"The System" & Everything Of It
IS Rooted In TRAUMA
Our Conditioned Reactions To TRAUMA
Is What Constructs "The System"


By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

1st July 2013

TRAUMA

Trauma needs to be healed sufficiently in all of us so we can continue progressing fearlessly towards our collective do no harm community/paradise on earth objective. What we've been learning through direct experience over these last 8 years is staggering. The depth of trauma is so extensive that hardly any of us know how to live without reaction to trauma, in one form or another, shaping the decision making which forms the outcomes of our lives from sunrise to sunrise. So totally absorbed are we by the trauma of our past and the trauma that we perceive in the future, that we have barely a moment to consider, contemplate on and be conscious of the present, here and now. We are so caught up in the false idols of codes and symbols, in squiggles and digits and fictitious values, that cause us so much reaction, so much stress, that we are incapable of being present as we are swept along in the story telling of those codes, squiggles and digits that may or may not rescue us. The whole of "The System" is trauma based and is a man-made hell. We are not of hell yet we are so compromised by it. We are determined to inspire MAN out of hell so that Earth is again the living paradise it was dreamt to be. Getting MAN out of hell is a huge team effort.

SYSTEM LIFE

If someone hurts us, we feel the trauma of that hurt, of that intention that has been imposed upon us. The trauma that reverberates in us is not of our making. What is of our making, what we do have control over, is our reaction to that trauma. Do we allow it to possess us, living our lives out of it, or do we move on from the trauma, healing our bodies and brains/senses, so that we can let go of the trauma and get on with our lives? The same applies with "System" thought control or the IMAGE-POWER another MAN has over us. Most of us are spellbound by the re-presentation of thoughts, ideas, images made up by other men and women, none of them uniquely created by us, having us trapped in the perpetual reaction of a vicious cycle mirroring the gruesome, pounding repetition of our system education, going over and over and over the constructs and concepts of "The System" in their alphabet languages so that they become habit. But these constructs and concepts are not us - they are the trauma of a SYSTEM LIFE that has been forced upon us, that we are compelled to react to, making us robots as we perform the clockwork of the programming of system life. We are no longer MAN, we are SYSTEM LIFE.

"The System" of men and women who live for and follow its instruction forces trauma upon us but it is up to us how we react to that trauma so then you could call it "trauma created from "within"", the "within" being just the echo of a residual memory of harm. But, the fact is, if a man rapes you, he is forcing trauma upon you, even though you have a choice how to react to this trauma. However, we recognise the wholeness of life and even though each aspect of sensory life, inanimate or not, tiny or not, is unique and original, we sense that there is still no separation of life which means that any trauma forced upon any aspect of life is trauma for all of life that has to be healed by all of life. It is trauma that gives us (MAN) the compelling-emotion of separation, disconnection from life that is Nature/Earth/MAN.

The reaction to harm upon sensory LIFE/MAN causes the illusion of separation as MAN reacts to the effect of trauma upon MANS life. It is this illusion which "The System" is constructed out of........ ALL OF IT IS TRAUMA BASED!

Re-Presenting "intellectual property" that are thoughts, ideas, images, made up by other men and women telling you how to think (react), feel (react) and act (re-act), is clear evidence of the effect of trauma and its purpose designed by the intender.

Where can innocent children, not exposed to "The System" or to anyone exposed to its brainwashing education, go anywhere in nature to learn about trauma, with its illusion of separation, without anyone (MAN) having to explain it to them or force them to experience it?

From our perspective, the best thing we can learn from the damage caused by "The System" is how not to repeat the damage. That is its only real benefit. There is nothing else to learn because all the empathy, compassion, strength, etc, we feel we have learned from the damage are actually qualities we naturally possess but which have been crushed out of us by our SYSTEM LIFE. We are struggling to get back what we already have! Let's create lives for those around us so that they don't have to be crushed. It does help to get off the grinding roundabout of our SYSTEM LIFE stories of pain, suffering and brainwashing because they do not free us.

Govern-MEN-t

When we live for and focus on Govern-Men-t we continue to support the enslavement of MAN under government. When we live for and focus on Kindoms of Food Forests we continue to support the freedom of MAN. It was when MAN left Food Forests of Kindoms that MAN became a slave under government. Food Forests set MAN free because we are no longer under the Image-Power of another MAN telling us how to think, feel and act.

When we each have the full-responsibility for taking care of a Food Forest, we are unique and original MAN because we create unique and original thoughts inspired by nature all around us - that is ALL that we know. There is no other MAN educating us to be under their IMAGE-POWER.

What now stands before all of us is the choice of a "SYSTEM" to live for; we either live for a man-made system of govern-men-t or we live for a natural system of Food Forest Kindoms. With the choice of government we give up our power to be under limited liability; living on land is now controlled by others dictating to (educating) us how to be a MAN on land, how to think, feel and act as a hue-MAN in their world, under their IMAGE-POWER. We have given up our "rights" to be free - we are no longer unique and original MAN. With the choice of Food Forest Kindoms we live by FULL-Responsibility to do no harm to Food Forests so that we do no harm to MAN living in those Food Forest Kindoms. We live for the co-creation of Food Forest Kindoms that is a team effort of MAN recreating Food Forest Kindoms to set each of us free to live by full-responsibility for everything we think, feel and do.

Kindom is a team effort where the best of land is for the benefit of all of our tribe/Kindom/village/community to enjoy and all other "lesser" land is turned into hectares (2.5 acres is more than enough space of land for each family to take responsibility for - 1/3 for home, 1/3 for gardens of space and 1/3 for a food forest joining all other food forests of their Kindom). With Kindoms, we help each other build our shelters/homes and gardens so that we can all be set free from being under govern-MEN-t forevermore.

For more on Food Forest Kindoms read "The Steps Of Kindom" and "The Spell Is Broken".
Links are provided below.

All the best
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

A Facebook Post

Link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10201336766849239

Andrea Smith said: "I Don't Think Many People Live Without The System, We Live In A House Or Unit, With Family, We Drive A Car, car insurance, health insurance etc We Pay Taxes. Anyone Who Claims Not To Be In The System Will Not Reply To Any Of This As They Will Not Have Electricity Or A Computer. It Would Be Rare For Someone To Just Leave Everything, Go Bush And Live Off The Land. I'm Sure You Are Still In The System, I Am Still In The System."

We replied..............

Yes, as a severely compromised family we are still in "The System". Even though Arthur no longer has any contracts with "The System" since early 2009, he is still relying on Fiona and others who do. Getting out of "The System" is a very big step, especially as most of us cannot really imagine how that would be!

However, we realise that getting out of "The System" is the only choice for freedom which is why we have been pushing so very hard since 2006 for "The Steps Of Kindom" REMEDY and with it, "The Spell Is Broken".

But nothing will happen unless there is enough of us immensely hungry, determined and FEARLESS to make it happen in present-sense.

Refer to the thread below "Richard Thompson said: "This sounds like the new age un agenda 21 sustainable bullshit and because of that i did not watch it...": https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10201318155743973 with our replies to Brett Anderson who we respect heaps BUT who appears to be like almost everyone else, not hungry or determined enough to do something about it here and now.

The inconveniences that will arise in actually doing something will arise no matter what the circumstances may be when and if we decide to do something in present-sense.

The "God" of APATHY and PASSING-THE-BUCK rules supreme.

Most of us are kept in line through the extensive trauma conditioning we've been hammered with, clearly designed to stop us taking FULL-RESPONSIBILITY to create the essential steps we MUST all take here and now to move away from the grip of fear our "System" masters have had over us and and our ancestors going right back to when they were conquered and broken down into slaves.

The trauma is so all-pervasive and powerful that it has an immense hold over us making us extremely greedy and selfish, driven by the fear of trauma and of the inconveniences of letting go of "The System" and the feeling that we cannot trust others so we have to go it alone, stuck with our private complaints and the ongoing sounds of clanging chains coming from our severely compromised victim status. We have so much fear of letting go of what we claim we "own" in "The System" and the greed and selfishness created by the uncertainty of life and the lack of abundance in "The System", that we need the FORCE of "The System" to provide protection at the cost of everyone else suffering in "The System" which includes the loss of freedom, peace, joy, abundance, etc, that comes as we continue selling each other out all-the-time.

This is all trauma.

But it is only through letting go of our fear and our greed and selfishness that we will find true-freedom.

Greed and selfishness make people go off and buy a piece of land so that they can have "their" freedom but that does not keep "The System" from the door and does nothing to create freedom in the lives of those around them and us. It is only through getting together and confronting those of "The System" when they come knocking that we get them out of our lives. Even better when the FORCE behind "The System" no longer exists to come knocking on our door.

"Community Immunity" through large numbers is what they fear and are powerless against. There is no point in half a million of us going to the city to protest and then going home again, still plugged into "The System". Those of "The System" don't give two hoots about this and, in fact, they orchestrate and control such protests because people feel they are doing something when they are still giving all their energy to "The System". They know that the thought of freedom is not freedom. They know that they can manipulate slaves to exhaust their life-energy at rallies, social-media websites, watching footy, masturbating over sexual images, getting pissed, being entertained by petitions, etc, etc, without ever giving LIFE consistently to the thought of freedom. For slaves, the dream of freedom is just that a dream, a thought, an idea always at arms length. The "spell" and PULL towards compliance and addiction to "The System" is so very strong that slaves are back at work the next day or are falling into regimental lines receiving government hand-outs.

If we want to be free of "The System" we have to change the way we are living. At it's hearts and our hearts, this is what the whole debate we recently had with Raymond Karczewski has been about - the thought of our freedom is not the same as creating and living our freedom.

Capturing Another MANS Uniqueness
A Facebook Debate With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
And Raymond Karczewski
Starting 13th May 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8414

Note: the final instalment to this debate, Parts 2 & 3, will be uploaded ASAP. They go deeply into the background of trauma. To us these posts are a huge eye opener clearly revealing how and why the Freemasonic/Satanic world create trauma and brilliantly use it to trap MAN into enclosures where they can be used as slaves for whole life-times.

We are so compromised that sometimes it seems impossible to take the steps away from "The System". They know this and know that this is why most of us are still choosing "The System" over freedom because we are not prepared to give up our system addictions and deal with the many sacrifices and potential suffering we all have to go through to get out the other side.

The power of many of us coming together as "community immunity" to show that we can live together in peace without "The System" is the only method, bar earth-wide extinction brought on by an earth fever, that will break the back of "The System" because, once we no longer need "The System" physically, mentally and emotionally, they have no power over us and "The System" will fade away because no one is giving it any life-energy any more.

When we all come together to be the gift of life for those around us, giving up our self-centredness to labour so that everyone has food, water and shelter and being prepared to stand up for each other so that we all have people we can count on is how we heal the trauma that has us locked into "The System". We are confident that, once a few of us come together to do this, we will soon be saying, "Why didn't we do this years ago?" Yes, we will work hard until we have broken down the FORCE behind "The System" and got rid of it, but the satisfaction of what we achieve will be far beyond that which we feel from the distractions of "The System". But, hey, there is nothing said here that we have not said before because this is what we have been determined to create since 2006.

The Spell Is Broken
Taking The Land To Create Kindom

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8365

"The Steps Of Kindom"
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

All the best
Arthur & Fiona Cristian

From Another Recent Facebook Post.....

"Time" is not the issue as it doesn't exist. What is really going on here is reaction to trauma. "The System" and everything of it is trauma based. Refer to our articles and videos for more on this. GeoEngineering is all trauma based too. Both those behind it and those at the effect of it are all reacting to trauma. As we shared earlier, "Trauma needs to be healed sufficiently in all of us so we can continue progressing fearlessly towards our collective do no harm community/paradise on earth objective. What we've been learning through direct experience over these last 8 years is staggering. The depth of trauma is so extensive that almost all of us don't know how to live without the reaction to trauma, in one form or another, shaping the decision making which forms the outcomes of our lives from sunrise to sunrise. The whole of "The System" is trauma based and is a man-made hell. We are not of hell yet we are so compromised by it. We are determined to inspire MAN out of hell so that Earth is again the living paradise it was dreamt to be. Getting MAN out of hell is a huge team effort.

And a copy of a reply in that post: "In the water of MANS breath where sperm and egg come from we already have all of Paradise in us, as us. Though much of it has been ignored/distracted/corrupted/distorted/suppressed/etc, thanks to trauma (impure insincere thoughts, feelings, actions, dreams that do harm), we are all still completely made out of that heavenly stuff (pure and sincere do no harm thoughts/feelings/actions/dreams).

All you have done was to take full-responsibility to repair whatever you could of the damage done to you because your natural heartfelt connection with paradise is stronger than with the bullshit hell surrounding you. We are all presently struggling through the bullshit of hell's trauma to get back to where we are now. There is still a way to go to have us all living paradise here and now.

Bar not doing harm to MAN/Earth/Nature and being conscious of not doing harm there is NOTHING else to learn from HELL. If we and our ancestors had not been interfered with, we would already be living paradise in present-sense. From the instant of conception children are already equipped with all the tools for co-creating and expanding paradise all-around. The more we start remembering who we really are the faster we can accelerate the process of co-creating Kindoms/Do No Harm Communities/Tribes/Villages and until we make this happen in large scales between us as a gift for all of MAN (us) we will continue suffering from the consequences of giving our life to Hell ("The System") causing hell to bind us all even more closer to hell as in-divide-u-all-s (individuals) with no way out.

Until we have all worked our arses off "day-after-day" to create a living paradise we will never be able to have that "private" space of love where we can each uniquely dream to create the original MAN we are at our core. We've first got to get rid of hell from all around us, from out of the lives of everyone around us and ONLY then can we start to live paradise again. Until we've made this happen nothing will change our bonds with hell. In fact, those who don't take full-responsibility to get rid of hell won't make it as hell will have consumed them as part of the collective spiritual suicide of MANS fall into it.

This post we put up yesterday on Arthur's FB wall "Raymond Karczewski posted this comment in a debate on Nigel Beckwith's Facebook wall..." goes into this subject more deeply and as you read the full extent of the debate we had with Raymond Karczewski we can see/sense what has to be done.

Capturing Another MANS Uniqueness
A Facebook Debate With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
And Raymond Karczewski
Starting 13th May 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8414

"Time Codes" makes trauma based images "self fulfilling" (self-creating), which can't be done if they are not set to a "time code". We project time-coded images from a past we're not letting go of into a future we're not letting go of because we have memorised them, causing the "story-telling" of the trauma to be be re-experienced over and over again here and now in present-sense where we've not been letting go of them.

That's what trauma does to us.

Everything about "The System" is trauma based. All "The System" education is trauma based, conditioning/brainwashing us to "time-codes" so we can be locked into them. Then we are easily manipulated which causes us to comply down-the-line whenever however............i.e....... police officer getting out of the car with lights flashing coming over to you armed with baton, taser, gun, hand-cuffs, penalty infringement notice booklet, etc... Aaaaahhhhhhhh the power of non-sensory images rooted to a time-code = trauma.

These time-coded stories of trauma form the sub-conscious = memory - which is just an echo of a trauma (non-sensory-image) bouncing to and fro between your ears. It is the past projected into the future that controls us here and now.

Trauma is a vicious circle.

How many people do you know who are free of enslavement to trauma?

Being trained/conditioned to "Time Codes" causes us to set trauma into motion so that we can re-experience its harmful-suffering-story over and over again even though nothing is really going on in present-sense........ the time-code of the trauma-story is rooted in the past of "long-ago".

"I have to go to work to keep a roof over my head, get my kids through school, put food on the table, pay the mortgage, pay the bills, etc..... and if I don't" ......... TRAUMA REACTION IS ON BIG-TIME NOW - RED LIGHT IS FLASHING EVEN BRIGHTER even though its always been flashing since being trapped to this time-code rooted in trauma. "I'd better keep getting up each day and go to work in "The System" as a good little compliant slave."

When a child falls over and hurts themselves it's best to ignore their pain by not reacting to the pain the child is experiencing in those moments and instead provide them with a remedy that helps them to move forward without dwelling on the story of the pain. Have watched many children ready to burst into tears but pulling out of it at the last moment when they realise/sense there is no attention-seeking pay-off in it for them coming from those around them. They just move on. This is what nature does to. Life is for the living. "The System" is not for the living.

A lie cannot be created without a "time code". Are you aware of this? All lies are rooted in "time codes".

There is so much more to this and we explain this in some of the Love For Life videos we've been posting and in some of the Love For Life articles too.

Arthur Cristian

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Max Igan replied again Wednesday 3rd July 2013 00:59

"Arthur, referencing yourself to "elucidate" on what you say is the height of egotism and not one single thing in the essay I skimmed over that you posted above justifies the lies, the hatred and the falsehoods you so readily created about me... you need to wake up because all you are doing is perpetuating division... I would never post hatred of another.... and even with the lies you posted about me (having never met me) I never even responded, because I have more respect for life than that.... in fact your own actions speak volumes about the you that you will not face... but anyway... the oppt did what it was supposed to do... it provided to tools for those who choose to step away from the system, to do so... the thing that has stopped more people doing so, are people like you who have a vested interest in maintaining the fight and the fiction for their own agendas ....people like you ARE the system...

and arthur, in order to create a kin domain, you need to first free the people of earth... and buying into your property in the mistaken and fictional belief that one can actually own part of the earth is simply stupid and circumvents the REAL issue completely... wake up brother

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Arthur Cristian

These words "hatred", "lies", "egotism", "falsehoods", "division", etc, are just claims made up by you MAX. They are all lies. All you are attempting to do is create a controversy where there isn't one. You are trying to kidnap/hijack our characters so that you can impersonate them, claiming these claims are our intentions, coming from us, when in fact they are your claims (lies), you made them all up. You seem to really enjoy practising black magic as in remote viewing, remote control and remote projection. Are you psychic Max? Do you have a third eye? Our conscience is very clear. When it comes to your claims, we have nothing to be concerned about.

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Arthur Cristian

Max said "and arthur, in order to create a kin domain, you need to first free the people of earth... and buying into your property in the mistaken and fictional belief that one can actually own part of the earth is simply stupid and circumvents the REAL issue completely... wake up brother".

We never made such claims Max. These are not our intentions. They are not the path you claim we are traversing.

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Max Igan

they are not "claims I made up" arthur they are an obsevation of your actions and the lies, hatred and false information you created and posted about me... people like you and the bullshit and hatred you peddle are a HUGE part of the problem because your own actions show you have a heart as black as coal

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Max Igan

anyway, Im not interested in any long discorse with you as you are way too narcissistic to ever truly see the obvious. I just wanted to demonstrate how utterly wrong you were and how the OPPT's UCC filings have actually been helping people. I dont hold any hatred, jealously or anymosity towards you, as you do towards me and as you have amply demonstrated with your hate videos and disinformation campaigns and wish you well. ... I just wish you would wake up and start working for positive change rather than helping perpetuate division to serve your own agenda.
Dont bother replying as I have no interest in conversing with you past this point unless you happen to wake up from the illusion you are living in

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Arthur Cristian

Then you are saying (claiming) you have lived with us, have had private, 1st party to 1st party dealings (direct experience) with us on an ongoing basis to know from direct experience who we really are? What you have posted here, these images, are of your own making Max and we don't buy into them. They live ONLY with you, there maker.

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Max Igan

no, Im basing my opinion of you on the unwarranted lies, hatred and false information you have spread about me without knowing one single thing about me... and just think Arthur, we could have been friends, however you chose the path of lies, anymosity and self promotion at the expense of others... pity

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Arthur Cristian

Reposted the article on Trauma, System Life & Govern-MEN-t

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Max Igan

lol... another essay referencing yourself to back up what you claim?... lol...damn you have to be the most self absorbed person on this planet Arthur...
yeah trauma is trauma ...and false information and lies directed at another to serve a personal agenda, is false information and lies directed at another to serve a personal agenda... and you sir are a nasrcissitic idiot

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Arthur Cristian

This is Fiona here Max with Arthur. Why are you so keen for a fight? You do not have to like what we say. We have no problem with that. Why don't you go and do some more One People promotion, as that seems to be the way you see to create paradise for all without leaders and followers? Unless you do not want paradise for all.

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Max Igan

Well Fiona, I think you should be asking yourselves those questions as Im not the one who posted lies, hatred and disinformation about a fellow researcher,... that was you.. it was you who decided to start the fight.... from this message, you are obviously just as sarcisstic, just as bent on division and the perpetuation of the system to serve your own agenda, and just as bent on establishing your cult and as quite obviously just as black hearted as Arthur

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Max Igan

over and out

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Arthur Cristian

All lies are a curse - all liars are cursed - with us the makers of curses/lies are forced to process and amplify them exclusively with no way out until they make whole with those they intended to harm or have harmed.

16:31

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Max Igan

then, as you have clearly stated, you are cursed
goodbye

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Arthur Cristian

Then you have nothing to be concerned about.

16:33

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The Cristian Family November 2006

OPPT Facebook Discussion Started By Gypsy Rob
20th February 2013
Includes Interchange With Max Igan & Arthur & Fiona Cristian

Link: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=373718059401806

[Note: Gypsy Rob is Freeman Delusion]

Freeman Delusion

U.S. District Judge Ronald Leighton had this to say about One Peoples Public Trust documents...

"Defendant has filed yet another document entitled “Mandatory Judicial Notice.” (See Dkts. #99, 86, 66, 59, 58.) The “Mandatory Judicial Notice” notifies the Court that Defendant “relies in good faith on the public/commercial REGISTRY entries as published at www.peoplestrust1776.org, inclusive of Universal Law Ordinance, UCC #2012096074 . . . .” For lack of a better term, this is gobbledygook. The Court is unsure of the document’s purpose, and given its undecipherable nature, no response is expected from the Government.

Defendant is apparently a member of a group loosely styled “sovereign citizens.” The Court has deduced this from a number of Defendant’s peculiar habits. First, like Mr. Leaming, sovereign citizens are fascinated by capitalization. They appear to believe that capitalizing names has some sort of legal effect. For example, Defendant writes that “the REGISTERED FACTS appearing in the above Paragraph evidence the uncontroverted and uncontrovertible FACTS that the SLAVERY SYSTEMS operated in the names UNITED STATES, United States, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, and United States of America . . . are terminated nunc pro tunc by public policy, U.C.C. 1-103 . . . .” (Def.’s Mandatory Jud. Not. at 2.) He appears to believe that by capitalizing “United States,” he is referring to a different entity than the federal government. For better or for worse, it’s the same country.

Second, sovereign citizens, like Mr. Leaming, love grandiose legalese. “COMES NOW, Kenneth Wayne, born free to the family Leaming, 20 December 1955, constituent to The People of the State of Washington constituted 1878 and admitted to the union 22 February 1889 by Act of Congress, a Man, “State of Body” competent to be a witness and having First Hand Knowledge of The FACTS . . . .” (Def.’s Mandatory Jud. Not. at 1.)

Third, Defendant evinces, like all sovereign citizens, a belief that the federal government is not real and that he does not have to follow the law. Thus, Defendant argues that as a result of the “REGISTERED FACTS,” the “states of body, persons, actors and other parties perpetuating the above captioned transaction(s) [i.e., the Court and prosecutors] are engaged . . . in acts of TREASON, and if unknowingly as victims of TREASON and FRAUD . . . .” (Def.’s Mandatory Jud. Not. at 2.)

The Court therefore feels some measure of responsibility to inform Defendant that all the fancy legal-sounding things he has read on the internet are make-believe. Defendant can call himself a “public minister” and “private attorney general,” he may file “mandatory judicial notices” citing all his favorite websites, he can even address mail to the “Washington Republic.” But at the end of the day, while sovereign citizens and Defendant cite things like “Universal Law Ordinances,” they are subject to both state and federal laws, just like everyone else.

For the reasons stated above, no response is required by the Government."

DATED this 12th day of February, 2013

United States District Judge Ronald B. Leighton

http://asdupdates.com/wordpress/archives/3676

20th February 2013 20.03

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Freeman Delusion

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread925756/pg1

The One People's Public Trust & Sovereign Citizens Movement Scams Broken Down., page 1
www.abovetopsecret.com

20 February at 20:04

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Freeman Delusion

http://mikiverselaw.blogspot.com.au/2013/02/frank-ocollins-thoughts-on-u...

MIKIVERSE LAW: FRANK O'COLLINS THOUGHTS ON U.C.C
mikiverselaw.blogspot.com

20 February at 20:05

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Freeman Delusion

Interesting comment thread: https://m.facebook.com/editnote.php?draft&note_id=372985982808347&id=100002908444732&__user=100002908444732#!/note.php?note_id=372985982808347&__user=100002908444732

Judge Leighton Re: "ONE PEOPLES PUBLIC TRUST"

Posted by ASDUpdates on February 13th, 2013 It was bound to happen, I am just surprised it took this long. Judge Leighton should be commended for his patience...
by: Freeman Delusion

20 February at 20:07

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Freeman Delusion

http://2012thebigpicture.wordpress.com/2013/01/11/drakes-take-on-toppt-h...

Drake's Take on TOPPT; He Couldn't Stand it Any More
2012thebigpicture.wordpress.com

I have nothing against Drake saying what he says... it's the WAY he says it. He and the UV group are getting increasingly disrespectful when talking about those who don't see eye to eye with them. ...

23 February at 15:54

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Freeman Delusion

http://mikiverselaw.blogspot.com/2013/02/arthur-fiona-christian-of-love-...

MIKIVERSE LAW: ARTHUR & FIONA CHRISTIAN OF LOVE FOR LIFE OPEN FIRE ON OPPT MOVEMENT
mikiverselaw.blogspot.com

23 February at 15:55

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Freeman Delusion

http://youtu.be/OdNfueQbFaYi

One Peoples Public Trust ( OPPT ) Fails the TEST
www.youtube.com

It is quite clear OPPT don't comprehend or purposely choose not to comprehend what banking & central banking implies, banks came into existence to impose a c...

23 February at 15:58

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Freeman Delusion

http://youtu.be/1hlj8PCB_y0

One Peoples Public Trust ( OPPT ) Fails the Test PT 2
www.youtube.com
One Peoples Public Trust ( OPPT ) Fails the Test PT1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdNfueQbFaY Take note of the signature from OPPT official web page? http:...

23 February at 16:00

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Alan Clark

that judge is acting in a fraudulent manner as the court has been foreclosed upon and we as sovereign be'ings have no need to prove our own personal sovereignty inside a private and foreclosed court.. Ronald Leighton needs served... he is equal to and not above any other be'ing ... ...... this is the truth but as this plays out the State is still playing out as a functioning body with means of force at its disposal.... police and military ( foreclosed entities ) be'ings need to be learning OPPT to help themselves and everyone else out... transition will take time.

23 February at 16:17

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Steven Spiers

For better or for worse, it’s the same country. YES that may be, but the NATION that lies on that country is UNLAWFUL and has corrupted the system. This judge WORKS FOR the corporation. His jurisidtion ends at the corporation. When you use stuff in a court, learn to use the language of the courts.

23 February at 16:31

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Alan Clark

the Nation in itself is a fiction

23 February at 16:35

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Robyn Christine

Sounds like a scare tactic... *they* are NOT going to give up easily!!! Wow!!! This is HUGE!!!! Excellent collection Gypsy Rob... Thankyou!

23 February at 16:37

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Freeman Delusion

No court recognises OPPT documents

23 February at 16:39

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Freeman Delusion

So there is no legal or lawful remedy in OPPT.

23 February at 16:41

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Alan Clark

Gypsy Rob we do not need the courts permission... you are somewhat missing the point here ... we stand above government and their bodies,,, they have been foreclosed.... but, they wont just roll over and die...

23 February at 16:44

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David Lopez All these noises being made against personal sovereignty sound rather arrogant and authoritarian. Whatever happened to the common sense notion of 'no victim, no crime'?

23 February at 16:45

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Freeman Delusion There is nothing that requires rebuttal, nothing has been forclosed upon, there is no evidence, just people relying One blind faith.

23 February at 16:47

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David Lopez blind faith in corporate govt, you mean?

23 February at 16:50

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Steven Spiers

I think Gypsy Rob still misses the point, and fails to understand that a fiat system can only be put in trust as long as the bankers hold up the fraud, if they were to acknowledge the slavery systems, then they would have to acknowledge the trust. Therefore, the trust only has cash in it as long as the bankers hold up the lie.

23 February at 16:50

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Alan Clark who said? and under what authority?

23 February at 16:50

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Alan Clark we dont ask for freedom. we take it!

23 February at 16:51

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Steven Spiers Thats right, and knowing you can take it is a big step.

23 February at 16:53

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Robyn Christine

hmmmm... Frank O'Collins.... he's pretty indepth and meticulous... I have been following him and doing write ups about stuff that he says on my wall from time to time... If anyone was going to crack it, I thought is would be him... Santos has been backing him too... One of my posts where I mentioned Frank O'Collins though!!! Mark McMurtrie came in and said "Robyn, you know his background???" I said yes, he is catholic...

23 February at 16:56

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Arthur Cristian

The moment you make a "claim" you are under their jurisdiction because you have admitted you are in their world and of their world. Their non-sense dead-world is "The System" of Wonderland. Entering their dead world with "name" is the worse thing you can do. What has just been explained is the reason why EVERYONE is getting trapped. Unless you learn the difference between sense and non-sense you will always remain confused and therefore trapped. By using non-sense such as paper, laws, legalese, statutes, precedents, claiming/arguing over fines, contracts with gas, phones, banks, credit cards, etc, etc, alphabet languages, commerce, seeking commercial remedies, etc, you are admitting to being in and of their world and therefore under-their-jurisdiction. Almost ALL of the freedom-truth movement is a lie of many lies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgEwY38JQWU The best thing to do is put the curse-makers curses back on them which means stop living/being the lie, stop committing fraud, and stop claiming their claims which you do through belief, faith and associated opinion causing you to argue, etc. There is a most simple way out of this mess but it comes with FULL-RESPONSIBILITY. Watch our videos, avoid getting sucked into "personality cults" and learn the difference between SENSE and NON-SENSE.

The Dream Of Life - Part 5D - Images Of Deception
The Intelligence Agents Amongst Us
"We Will Lead Every Revolution Against Us"

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - 44 Minutes 53 Seconds

23 February at 16:56

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Arthur Cristian

The Dream Of Life Part 6 - Under The Spell Of Intellectual Property
Arthur Cristian - 51 Minutes 52 Seconds

23 February at 16:56

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Arthur Cristian http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH25tucSZSo

Ben Lowrey Interviews Arthur Cristian
Love For Life - 8th February 2012

95 Minutes 28 Seconds

23 February at 16:56

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Arthur Cristian

Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 8th February 2013
Part One: http://youtu.be/4ze66_33wxM - 70 Minutes 5 Seconds

Part Two: http://youtu.be/43gIi-sjxJc - 81 Minutes 13 Seconds

Part Three : http://youtu.be/oooY6W63K-M - 70 Minutes 18 Seconds

http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8350
Part Four: coming

23 February at 16:57

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Arthur Cristian

"From Bare Dirt To Abundance"
A Year In The Life Of The
Love For Life Food Forest

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
8th February 2013
51 Minutes 46 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8352

23 February at 16:57

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Freeman Delusion

I will post other links here in comments, but go to the start of the thread and look at what the other links say. Alan, as in the above clip, we only have certain amount of gold, 10 billion each is 70 quadzillion, far exceding the current fiat too.

23 February at 16:59

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Steven Spiers

Gypsy Rob, A Statute Court is not going to recognise OPPT, And there are hardly any Constitutional Courts in the Commonwealth Countries anymore. You can however use the UCC to file documents on the individuals that act as AGENTS for the NATIONS.

23 February at 17:01

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Robyn Christine

Makes a whole lotta sense to me Arthur... Any playing with it... entangles you in it!!!!

23 February at 17:04

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Arthur Cristian

They are their rules/definitions - they change them any time they want. Statutes keep coming and coming and coming at us. It's as if every moment of our lives no matter what, even when sleeping or resting under a tree, we are breaking "statutes".

As Tami Pepperman shared with us back in early 2011.......

Criminal Coercion is a funny animal. Basically to be criminally coerced, one has to be threatened with charges for a crime they have not committed, or to be held in a contemptuous state for a crime that has not been committed, or does not exist, which is called compulsion (to be compelled)

A Statute, is a statement of compulsion, whereby entire sects of human beings, are compelled, whilst being maintained in a state of contempt, for crimes never having been committed, one such example is a DUI << no crime has been committed, HOWEVER you are being held in contempt, or being compelled by compulsory statute (extortion) to do some thing you normally would not have done, thereby at times, you are also being held hostage, and or federally kidnapped by action of fraud (held against your will) by court, or other legal process.

I ask this officer to find me the emotion that was damaged or injured when Mr. Koenig spoke his truth to various individuals, whereby he is maintaining Criminal Coercion (one of the main components, is that it has to have a victim, which is where Intent stems from...one can only commit a crime if one intends to harm (requiring a victim, requiring not an emotion, or a feeling, but a real live human victim) and Conspiring with other Actors to hold Mr. Koenig hostage, by Court Process within the Action of Racketeering, whereby various entities are deriving illegal compensation, whilst simulating legal process, making threats, and Criminally Coercing Richard Koenig. Combined, this Constitutes not only Obstruction of Justice, and Criminal Contempt of Court (impeding the ability of the court to function) but because this officer is not adhering to his job (LAW enforcement) but is actually maintaining as a Criminal whilst in such Action of Enforcing Criminal Coercion.

"I don't have to answer your question you slut, you have to answer mine."
"You lieing attorney, you out to be in a hole, you fucking bastard."
"You goddamn slut."
"go fornicate with yourself."
"Listen you fucking bitch you are going to listen to me."

Now then, non-withstanding your opinions on the Oregon Motor Vehicle Code, when you speak to people this way, they do not have to respond back to you. If you call someone, and speak in this manner, it is considered non-communicative. Let me put it in real simple terms:

A jury of your peers (or judge) is instructed to listen to your phone calls. They are told that you have been verbally abusive in the past. You have been told not to call back due to your verbally abusive past. They then listen to audio recordings of you identifying yourself, followed by the above statements. This is why you have been found guilty of telephonic harassment THREE times Richard.

This officer also misquotes, and maintains that motor vehicle statutes, derived from code, are Laws, however, once again, I will reiterate, these are statutes, or statements of compulsion, and have no thing to do with a law.

http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors

TITLE 16

CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS

Chapter 161. General Provisions

162. Offenses Against the State and Public Justice

163. Offenses Against Persons

164. Offenses Against Property

165. Offenses Involving Fraud or Deception

166. Offenses Against Public Order; Firearms and Other Weapons; Racketeering

Oregon Revised Statutes

www.leg.state.or.us

23 February at 17:04

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Steven Spiers

this is not about money, its about constitutional law and order, and not corporate statute raping and pillaging of everything. I am sick of seeing my country corporatised. I want a lawful government that i control, not a government that tells me what to do all the time. Do you see the fundemental differences between a fucked up lying debt servitude system that makes you pay off interest and keeps you in servitude.

23 February at 17:04

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Norah Holloway

UCC is THEIR forms... them and you are separated... THEM... YOU... don't tie yourself up to them is WHAT my understanding is.

23 February at 17:05

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Arthur Cristian

No response is expected from the Government...... that's because they aren't reading from their heart.....LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

23 February at 17:05

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Steven Spiers

some of you might want to runaway and be free, but the free often get oppressed by the powerful. is it not better to use their system to pull it apart and out them in their game. if the people see them to be corporate, then they lose support, and things can change, running away from it doesnt change it for everyone else. Thats why you HAVE TO USE their rules. Play their game and make them tired of playing it.

23 February at 17:08

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Steven Spiers

And UCC is the forms of nations, not the forms of statute laws used in those nations. Step outside your patriotism and realise theres law and order above your flag.

23 February at 17:09

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Arthur Cristian

Steven, please don't take this "personally", this is not an attack on you, the living-sensory-MAN, just saying that your present thinking is part of the problem. The remedy is NO SYSTEM.

23 February at 17:10

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Robyn Christine

hmmm yes... that's true Steven... look at WACO

23 February at 17:12

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Steven Spiers

how do you get NO SYSTEM when 99% of people are ASLEEP while someone else is at the wheel. You sit next to the driver and you annoy the crap out of them until they have no choice but to drive the bus off the road and wake every body up.

23 February at 17:13

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Steven Spiers

And now your free in your NO SYSTEM, how do you fight the powerful that want to keep their OLD SYSTEM.

23 February at 17:13

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Steven Spiers

Youll be dead over a loaf of bread because theres no law and order. Yay civil war, just what we needed, not signing something with a pen, bullets will be easier.

23 February at 17:14

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David Lopez

It's all well and good to not voluntarily get caught up in their system, but what remedy is available for those that are targeted by the system?

23 February at 17:15

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Arthur Cristian

Having war to stop war is more war, the war continues. The exit to remedy is to withdraw, withdraw, withdraw, mate. We/MAN are the only ones with the power/gift of life to set thoughts/images into motion. In Present-Sense, LIFE is in our image/thought. When we comprehend this it becomes plainly obvious what we ALL must do. We have to go back to where MAN was before MAN fell into non-sense/unconsciousness to find the remedy. There is no remedy to be found during MANS fall - just more of the same fall (non-sense).

23 February at 17:16

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David Lopez

That's great and I agree but it does not undermine the reality of physical cages that man is thrown into when the fail to defend themselves from the system.

23 February at 17:21

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Arthur Cristian

IN PRESENT-SENSE we have to walk-the-talk, take FULL-responsibility for Living the way of life that provides freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, do no harm for all of life, no loss of uniqueness/originality for everyone and everything and no slaves and rulers and permit others lost to "The System" to visit and experience it first party to first party.... In present-sense, if there is no light (sense) for those lost to darkness (non-sense) there is nothing of truth, peace, joy, freedom.......etc, for them to return to. All around remains in darkness/non-sense and they are lost. Isn't freedom, truth, peace.........etc, what everyone really dreams for? "The Steps Of Kindom": "The Steps Of Kindom" http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

The Steps Of Kindom
by Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 2006 to 2012
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304
or
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5788
or
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8256

23 February at 17:21

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David Lopez

Or prevent the confiscation of property

23 February at 17:21

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Kevin Middleton

Leighton?, is that a Jewish name >...Just a thought...

23 February at 17:23

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Steven Spiers

Physical cages? We live in mental ones already. Do you want to continue doing that at the risk of being put in a real one. How do you remove the corporation from your lands. Original Land Holders is the key, start suppporting them.

We can all live in fairy land, or we can get real, get smart and take them on at their own level. For if we dont, we will need enough of us to walk away from them to be secure in knowing we are safe from their tyranny.

Right now, the only answer is to use their playground to slow them down and make the house of cards crumble.

23 February at 17:25

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David Lopez

Yes I understand the mental cage, I have been deprogramming myself for some time now and have embraced the non-aggression principle. Yet, the physical cages still exist, it's called jail.

23 February at 17:29

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Alan Clark

to me it makes sense to enter into this even if it is a trap they are trying to set as it will expose the deceit.... OPPT still makes perfect sense to me, I follow instinct!

23 February at 17:29

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Steven Spiers

In Canada, Australia and New Zealand, the key to unlocking this is your CONSTITUTION and your ORIGINAL land holders. Canada signed Treaties with its land owners, and Australia and New Zealand have 1870 Island Treaties that precede their constitutions.

This is your key to unlocking the fraud. In America you may just have to go to Civil War, you have to many head strong militia types with 2nd Amendment on their brain when they forget all about 1st Amendment.

23 February at 17:31

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David Lopez

and what is wrong with the right to own a firearm?

23 February at 17:33

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Steven Spiers

did i say there was anything wrong with owning a firearm, in switzerland every person over 16 MUST own a government issued unregistered firearm of capacity to defend the country, it must be servicable at all times or you can face penalties.

When was the last murder you heard out of there. Do you see them wanting to take over their government. Now you add up whats wrong here.

On top of that they have annual shooting days where the government provides unlimited ammunition.

23 February at 17:35

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David Lopez

I inferred from your earlier post that you didn't like the 2nd amendment. Thanks for clarifying

23 February at 17:37

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Arthur Cristian

You have really bought the fear story Steven. They have done a great job on you mate. While we remain in-divide-u-all-s (individuals), we need their/"The System" glue to bind us all together as ONE, under whatever bullshit story/fable/myth they pitched to CON us all into this oneness prison we call civilisations, nations, countries, races, cultures and creeds. Through their "Bad Guys" they create the chaos and then use their/"The Good Guys to provide the "system glue" that is the Order to their engineered chaos.

We are the true power Stephen but we can't own this power otherwise we get lost in the reflections/shadows of our projections which is how we fell into a "state" of non-sense "The System". Watch the videos, they are gift for you to help you SEE/SENSE what is really going on. We are not asking you to believe in what we are saying, we just ask you to use your senses/brain and scrutinise everything and go where the logic of truth takes you mate.

23 February at 17:39

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Uwe Uehle

interesting collection Gypsy - thanks - one of the best benefits of the OPPT controversy is that it forces more and more people to actually think and reflect on the situation what one should do when recognizing that one is caught in a system of fraud - which is the common denominator we all share - regardless of opinion about the OPPT movement - it`s a movement at this stage - NOT necessarily a remedy...

23 February at 17:39

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Steven Spiers

Arthur, you cannot have that power to be, if you are oppressed in tyranny. A Global Corporate system IS servitude, how do you step away from it, when everyone else cant.

How are you going to put food on your plate, or keep a roof over your head when they are hell bent with guns to stop you from leaving their system of servitude.

YOU PULL IT APART. Until such time as enough people can walk away from it without fear of oppression. This is world wide. How do you intend to wake up 7 billion people.

And how do you intend to survive the years its going to take for this to happen. Or we could live in fairy land, and pretend this world doesnt exist. Do you think thats wise. A wise man knows both worlds and plays them both to his advantage. A scared man runs away.

23 February at 17:42

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Arthur Cristian

Behind OPPT is blatant organised crime. Good hearted people, intelligent or not, who can't sense the slight of hand that deceives them, are always used as a cover/shield while the perpetrators of this organised crime pull the strings of these good hearted people to do their dirty work. This is the same Freemasonic/Satanic tactic used over and over again. Go to our wall and explore the depth of lies and liars behind the OPPT.

23 February at 17:44

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Conscious Entity

Arthur Cristian , i keep seeing the whole OPPT is a direct clone of the " freeman of the land movement" would i be correct ?

23 February at 17:46

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Arthur Cristian

Steven, argue for your limitations (beliefs) and sure enough they're yours. Remain in the bliss of ignorance mate. It seems you prefer the prison better than what awaits for you outside of it.

23 February at 17:47

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Alan Clark

Arthur what do you suggest we do in terms of freeing ourselves from all the tyranny imposed on us?

23 February at 17:51

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Arthur Cristian

While we remain prisoners, everyone else around us are prisoners too. If everyone else around us has freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, do no harm for all of life, no loss of uniqueness/originality for everyone/everything and no slaves and rulers, then WE LIVE IN PARADISE. We live for your freedom, truth, peace.....etc, and everyone elses freedom.......etc, and if we all live like this for each other then in PRESENT-SENSE we are raising each other up and out of the prisons of our own making. BUT WE HAVE TO TAKE FULL-RESPONSIBILITY FOR FREEDOM, TRUTH.......etc, by doing it, walking-the-talk because if we don't, then we will never walk-the-talk and be lost under limited liability/responsibility passing-the-buck to a range of excuses, fears, phobias, concerns, circumstances, etc, feeling small and powerless and weak causing us to leave it to those who have the power we/you have given them to continue enFORCING their power and and control over us/you...

23 February at 17:55

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Belle Amber Angel

friends have you watched this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umVj5XQYAi8

What The FUQ? - Frequently Unanswered Questions of the "Australian Government" - Documentary
www.youtube.com
Learn more at http://www.truth-now.net/ Join us on the Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/FUQAG Frequently Unanswered Questions of the "Australian Governm...

23 February at 18:00

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Belle Amber Angel

OPPT is the first real tool that can free us.. naturally there will be concerns/optimism/pesimisms/questions.. fear/ excitement.. and in time as the ball continues to grow and we continue to build up momentum we will see clearer .. this to me feels natural and in alignment with universal prinicpals, embraces each member of humanity.. as it represents and respects us all as equal.. the first step towards a unity conscious global community.. unity in diversity

23 February at 18:02

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Steven Spiers

Arthur, what do you think the Natural, Common and Commercial Laws are for, what do you think the Holy Triniity is.

We have law and order RIGHT NOW, we are just living in the wrong section of it.

Statue remains in the Commercial Laws, and will always, these are the laws that harm our lives.

Common Laws are the laws of the people, created by the people under the vote of the people, these have grown through centuries of change for the better.

Natural Laws cannot be changed.

You can live in fairy land, but the truth is that law and order has existed on this planet for thousands of years, we just have been blinded into playing commerce instead of getting on with life.

Are you going to wake the bus up and crash through the barrier onto the Common Law Highway. Or are you going to just drive faster and faster down the Commercial Law Highway whilst your asleep in Alices Wonderland.

23 February at 18:03

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Arthur Cristian

@ Alan and everyone who reads this thread, please learn/comprehend the difference between SENSE and NON-SENSE because when you do the true veil of deception starts falling and you start to see/sense what is really going on and being truly conscious, not wanting to set harm into motion anymore in all its forms we begin to withdraw and withdraw and withdraw from all forms of harm doing until we live in the paradise of our tribes/communities making. NO SYSTEM is the remedy, it's called Nature. Do you have to jump 10 feet across a room to grab your next breath? Of course not, everything has already been taken care of and so much more IF we wake up from non-sense.

23 February at 18:03

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Jason Allen

we all die in the end so shut the fuck up!

23 February at 18:03

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Arthur Cristian

Some links already provided above.

23 February at 18:04

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Arthur Cristian

When we remember who we really are we do not die. Only those who have forgotten who they really are, thanks to setting non-sense into motion, die. Refer to the videos.

23 February at 18:05

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Uwe Uehle

what I find interesting about those OPPT opponents is that they seem not to have a problem with the fact that the cabal is closing in on open slavery every day that goes by where the masses are NOT awakened to that fact that the entire system is a fraud. There are millions of people dying as a direct or indirect consequence of the fraudulent system every week or month if not every day - and the most awakened slaves are fighting over who has the best or the correct method of how to deal or not to deal with the situation - how about genuinely helping your brother when you sincerely think he`s making a wrong move instead of satisfying ego to prove to yourself that you are right - and he`s wrong...the cabal fraction on the energetic level is probably cheering us on as we keep fighting against each other...how about presenting a true workable solution to the problem that can be debated peacefully...

23 February at 18:07

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Alan Clark

to claim our freedom then we pay no tax, debt or any other imposed energy extraction.. now at some point we will meet with force from the systems enforcers.. we need an instrument to prove our sovereignty to the enforcers and to show them their own freedom... this is a tool and I am going with it right or wrong , it FEELS right to me..... this sense/ non-sense is a lot o tosh imo. just like a form of legalese.... a deception , play on words.... I could very well be wrong ,I have been many many times before.. we all have to walk our own paths. good luck to us all !!!

23 February at 18:12

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Belle Amber Angel

if we are going to bicker about this then it is done in vain of the intention behind it. i have listened to several interview so far.. some with people i respect and value, ie Max Igan and Santos Bonacci.. if it is something that does not resonate with you that is fine.. tho allow people who do believe in it to continue.. and give them the peaceful freedom for them to exercise their sovereign right.. the OPPT is transparent and simple and a natural law.. it states the creator.. is not discriminatory of any religion/culture or belief.. it is at the very fundamental basis setting out the freedom for each person to DO and BE... so rather than argue and waste energy here.. simply allow and learn and grow

23 February at 18:21

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Conscious Entity

why was my most basic question deleted ? all i asked was.. is the OPPT a direct clone of the freeman of the land movement ?

23 February at 18:28

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Arthur Cristian

@UWE, We have since 2006, it's called "The Steps Of Kindom"/ Because of this Love For Life work we do, are you aware that our family has had 12 death threats and 4 assassination attempts over the past three years or so? Are you aware that they even kidnapped Fiona back in 2009? Are you aware that we had two attempts of FORCE thrown at us, up to 16 police, detectives, sheriffs, tow trucks, trying to steal Fiona's assets. Are you aware that close supporters in their late 70's, were hog tied, hoods placed over their heads, bullet put through one of their hips while being tortured for two hours? Are you aware how they organised the theft of the family home and destruction of two businesses forcing us close to poverty and destitution caring for our 4 young daughters? And we are only scratching the surface here. And yet we have never broken the peace, caused a crime, harmed anyone, no lies, etc.. and we still remain focused on our Do No Harm path. We are the REAL McCoy mate. We walk-the-talk. Over the years they learnt we can't be intimidated. Now they are sending in their big shots to discredit us over the net like Max Igan, but this ain't working either. Too many people are really waking up. Over 100 million people have visited the Love For Life website, our internet presence is just as powerful as Max Igan, etc.

If you check out the FB wall OPPT has been completely destroyed now COMPLETELY. Word is spreading real fast: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/168861396594454

At first many of Max's followers were so blind to see what MAX was doing from almost the beginning of that thread. He was questioning Arthur's integrity, subtly making it out that Arthur was a liar, yet Max had no evidence to back his claim. He was relying on the FORCE of his internet presence (persuasion) to convince others that Arthur, and therefore Fiona Cristian, are not to be trusted. Do you comprehend this? Why did he do that without backing his claims?????? Are you aware that he was unable to back ANY of his claims, that he just ignored them all, would not answer any of our questions, yet we answered ALL of his. Most are now taking off their Max Igan rose-coloured glasses. THEY CAN SEE/SENSE.

23 February at 18:40

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Freeman Delusion

I didn't delete any CE.

23 February at 18:40

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Belle Amber Angel

maybe it was a glitch in the system.. if you are using a smart [dumb] phone especially..

23 February at 18:42

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Arthur Cristian

@ Belle, Do your home work, OPPT has been 100% routed out. Belief is not proof of fact/truth, instead it's a "SPELL" that draws you in to their web of deception.

23 February at 18:42

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Arthur Cristian

@ Alan, go back to our first post in this thread and read again..... Who are you Alan? What are you mate? Who are you answerable too??? Are not all men equal, not one the same as the next?

23 February at 18:44

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Alan Clark

I am a sovereign spirit,having a human experience, I am answerable to my own conscience,all souls are equal.. and at soul level , conscious level I believe we are the same separated in this experience by our individual ego's and beliefs.

23 February at 18:48

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Alan Clark

Arthur good luck to you, I will travel my road and make my mistakes... you have failed to convince me or show me an alternative.. love and live

23 February at 18:49

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Lisa M Harrison

Arthur christian,

OPPT has been 100% routed out? please show where,how and by whom, very interested

23 February at 18:52

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Arthur Cristian

Scrutiny and debate is paramount in regaining our true freedom. From the Love For Life website,

Feb 2010

We have unravelled "The System" and how we are brainwashed into supporting and maintaining it. We can explain this very clearly but we find that the brainwashing of "The System" is so effective that very few see it for what it is and thus remain trapped by it. Most men and women are so taken over by their belief systems that they are unable to listen to or read anything without placing the information of their belief systems over the information they are reading or hearing. Instead of taking in the information on offer and seeing how their belief systems measure up to the information, they take the information on offer and see how it measures up to their belief systems. If it doesn't fit in, the information is tossed out the door. It is a real challenge to learn to contemplate on information without clouding the message of that information with the information of our past experiences and our beliefs. Like black paint dripping into white so that it is no longer pure white, we cannot comprehend the message of new information while we are dripping our experiences and beliefs into it.

If we do not learn to truly scrutinise what we believe to be true, searching for the evidence to back those beliefs and being prepared to move on in the search of truth as soon as our beliefs fail to stand, we will never be free because we will cling to that which we believe to be true and stand at arms against any information that threatens our beliefs. This is the state of affairs now; millions arguing and fighting over belief systems, convinced that everything will be alright if only everyone thought like them.

From a very young age, we are trained to learn and base our lives on the information of "The System", superimposing it over the information of LIFE/nature that can show us how to live freely in peace. Our greatest challenge is to learn to recognise the difference between the two because, no matter how much we long for a world of freedom, peace, joy and abundance for ALL, we will never achieve it while we are using the information of "The System". Only the information of LIFE (sense) can return us to LIFE (sense).

23 February at 18:53

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Conscious Entity

is OPPT a direct clone of the freeman of the land movement ?

23 February at 18:54

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Ben Thatcher

I reckon I got the answer! And I reckon OPPT is paramount!!

23 February at 19:02

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Belle Amber Angel

I second that Ben.. and Alan Clark and a whole bunch of us feel the same.

23 February at 19:09

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Arthur Cristian

@ Alan, you are mostly re-presenting NON-SENSE that are thoughts/images others have told you how to think, feel and act. Why are you trying to claim what you already have/are? The thought of sovereign is not sovereign. The thought of freedom is not freedom. The thought of peace is not peace. The thought of God is not God. When you set these images free and live them in Present Sense you give them power BUT you can't do that when you are trapped in the reflection of your projection that are thoughts that you have not set into motion. They have no power and this is where you are getting trapped. You are free - live it.

It is belief that causes separation. In the middle of the word belief is the word lie and in the middle of the word lie is "i" and "i" is the greatest lie of all. We all have to learn to remove "i" out of everything we think, feel and do.

Soul is water, consciousness is water, water is spirit, etc. When you breathe out you are creating water. Everything is water. Watch the video we posted above about this. Water is SENSE - In present-sense all our ancestors are (in) the water.

Truth is not invisible. This is it mate where we have always been.

Do your homework mate and please don't believe anything we say, instead use your senses and scrutinise........ etc.

We are not on a journey heading from somewhere to anywhere mate. No one can back this. Are you aware that Earth is NOT a planet and is not turning and going around the sun, part of a solar system going around a galaxy of many galaxies going around a universe of many universes? And we are not tiny aspects of a universe at the effect of greater forces than us. Please watch the videos.

23 February at 19:15

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Ben Thatcher

Arthur if we are not on a planet going through the universe where are we?

23 February at 19:21

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Uwe Uehle

Lisa I think Arthur is referring to https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/168861396594454 which he has posted further above...

23 February at 19:21

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Steven Spiers

Conscious Entity, if you call your Constitution a freeman movement you are lost in the corporation so deep its hard to see whats real. Corporate governane with lack of regard for common law values is what its all about. Regardless of what they call it.

23 February at 19:30

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Arthur Cristian

@ Ben, Where we/MAN have/has always been Ben. Watch the videos. Learn the difference between sense and non-sense.

23 February at 19:30

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Arthur Cristian

Anyone notice that MAN or man or Man, is not used anywhere in the OPPT Document.

Instead, they use "self".

Can they please bring forward "self" to back their claims that "self" exists.

This is no different to "person" or "mind" or "strawman" or "ego" etc.... IN PRESENT-SENSE THEY DO NOT EXIST. They are just a reflection, an image of our projection. They are shadows of "illumined light" = "Intellectual Property".

Notice the word "person" in Blacks Law Dictionary.....

SELF-DEFENCE :

In criminal law. The protection of one’s person or property against some injury attempted by another. The right of such protection. An excuse for the use of force in resisting an attack on the person, and especially for killing an assailant.

http://thelawdictionary.org/self-defense

What is SELF-DEFENSE? definition of SELF-DEFENSE (Black's Law Dictionary) thelawdictionary.org

Definition of SELF-DEFENSE: In criminal law. The protection of one's person or property against some injury attempted by another. The right of such protection. An excuse for the use of force in resisting an attack on the person, and especially for killing an assailant.

23 February at 19:33

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Arthur Cristian

Notice the word creator next to numeric codes....

"UCC 1-308, creator, experiencing by creation, knowingly, willingly, and intentionally manifesting self through, by, and between bondservant therefrom and any and all manifestations thereunder by Universal Contracts,......."

This creator is enjoindered to "commercial contracts".......

Now read carefully here:

Uniform Commercial Code

U.C.C. - ARTICLE 1 - GENERAL PROVISIONS

PART 1. GENERAL PROVISIONS [Table of Contents]

§ 1-103.

§ 1-103. Construction of [Uniform Commercial Code] to Promote its Purposes and Policies: Applicability of Supplemental Principles of Law.

(a) [The Uniform Commercial Code] must be liberally construed and applied to promote its underlying purposes and policies, which are: (1) to simplify, clarify, and modernize the law governing commercial transactions; (2) to permit the continued expansion of commercial practices through custom, usage, and agreement of the parties; and (3) to make uniform the law among the various jurisdictions.

(b) Unless displaced by the particular provisions of [the Uniform Commercial Code], the principles of law and equity, including the law merchant and the law relative to capacity to contract, principal and agent, estoppel, fraud, misrepresentation, duress, coercion, mistake, bankruptcy, and other validating or invalidating cause supplement its provisions.

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Money is the current(cy) (cy = see = sea) of the curse........ So the process of this OPPT document is the processing of a curse..... the combining of MANS life-force-energy as the sea of the curse. This is blatant black-magic of the worst kind. Where are they directing all this accumulating Life-Force-Energy????????? Watch the video - coming shortly.

Link: http://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/1/article1.htm

Uniform Commercial Code - Article 1
www.law.cornell.edu
UCC - Uniform Commercial Code. From the LII, a public service of Cornell Law School.

23 February at 19:33

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Arthur Cristian

Notice the words used frequently "universe" and "universal" ------

uni verse and uni verse all -

They are clearly telling you what this is all about.

Please bring forward the "universe" and the "universal" to back your claims. It must be a 1st party to 1st party direct experience and not the re-presentation of "universe" and "universal" performed by a man acting as "self". If so THIS IS FRAUD.

uni = ONE - ONENESS = SAMENESS

and

verse = story or his-story or her-story.

Universe means ONE-STORY

and

Universal means ONE-STORY FOR ALL

meaning there is no uniqueness/originality and that ALL are under the same story = one world government, one word religion.........etc.

We say no more.

Video coming ASAP.

Love Arthur & Fiona Cristian

https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/168861396594454

23 February at 19:35

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Arthur Cristian

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lisamharrison.com%2F201...

latest OPPT Filing
www.lisamharrison.com

ALL RIGHTS RESERVED WITHOUT PREJUDICE, UCC Doc. # 2000043135, the perpetuity, is hereby duly amended only to include the following additional collateral as follows,

23 February at 19:36

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Arthur Cristian

They are dealing with legalese here. They filed the documents that oversees legalese = commercial courts which are defined by (and not only) blacks law dictionary.

23 February at 19:36

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Arthur Cristian

Today, the question was asked to Heather Tucci-Jarraf, OPPT Trustee, as to why the word "self" was used instead of MAN, Man, man, in the OPPT document/s: tohttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/globalfactradio/2013/02/22/global-fact-radio-the-oppt-with-heather-tucci-jarraf - starts at 98 minutes 20 seconds.

This was her answer:

"Every word was chosen very specifically and essentially those attorneys who read those documents who knew exactly what was happening in their language, however the documents were meant to be read with the heart and not the mind as far as the people go".

(note: it sounded like she was reading the answer from a script - was she briefed on this?):

Note: SHE DID NOT ANSWER THE QUESTION.

She instead completely avoided it!

This was blatant gobbledygook talk no different to a politician who dribbles on and on without ever specifically answering the question.

Why does the dictionary exist?

What is the purpose of the Blacks Law dictionary?

Are they not used to clarify the exact meaning of a word to avoid misunderstandings/confusion, etc, down the-line?

If the writers are using words that ONLY the heart can know, does this not leave it open down-the-line for misunderstandings/wrong-interpretations to eventuate etc. The benefit of vagary leaves things open for abuse, manipulation, change of direction/tactics, etc, anytime down-the-line.

There is no certainty of intent here. "NO... WE DID NOT MEAN THAT..... WE MEANT THIS INSTEAD". "YOU WERE NOT USING YOUR HEART". THAT IS YOUR FAULT!

The dictionaries exist to make it CLEAR for all concerned so they know exactly and clearly where they stand with those who were/are behind the making of the OPPT document. WHAT A CLEVER COP OUT/ESCAPE CLAUSE. Watch out people you are ALL being tricked here.

AND. "Every word was chosen very specifically and essentially those attorneys who read those documents who knew exactly what was happening in their language" --- GEEESSS, they are very important people, going out of their way to help us, to care for us in times of great need,..... they must be on our side.... WE BETTER TRUST THEM. they've gone to great trouble making sure everything is spot on!!!!!!!.. What a load of butter up bullshit.

And notice the wording "who knew exactly what was happening in their language". implying they know exactly the intent behind the word "self", but others must use their hearts to work it out. What a fob off.

And we LOL over this one "however the documents were meant to be read with the heart and not the mind as far as the people go"..... AS FAR AS THE PEOPLE GO.... implying as far away from truth as possible AND we want you to be con-fused which you will if you just trust us by following your heart... MEANING = BELIEF (believe in us, believe in our "spells") and not look into the true meanings of these legalese words used....... it is up to you, of the people, to work things out if you can....

The word "Self" is tied to "Person". Blacks Law makes this very clear. How much more clear does it have to be? "Here's the lemon you ordered sir"... "No I never wanted that, I wanted an orange",.... "No... you were not listening to your heart, the letters form the word orange but we said we wanted a lemon" !!!!!!!

Please go here to post your comments or read all the thread: The OPPT is a FRAUD, A LIE, Refer to this discussion with Max Igan: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/168861396594454

CONSCIOUS LIVING - THE OPPT WITH HEATHER TUCCI-JARRAF
www.blogtalkradio.com
On this episode of CONSCIOUS LIVING, we are honored to have two guests: Heather Tucci-Jarraf, one of the trustees of The OPPT (The One Peoples Public Trust) and Captain Deryl Zeleny of the Canadian Armed forces. Heather will discuss all aspects of the OPPT and how it can be used to benefit the peopl...

23 February at 19:38

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Arthur Cristian

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/criticalmassradioonline/2013/02/22/leaving-... - This interview occurred yesterday. Be patient, from the law side of things, Tammi Pepperman completely exposes the stupidity behind all those at the top of the OPPT who don't know what they are really talking about. We suggest you download this mp3 file, it's about 2 hours long but Tammi is the best of the best when it comes to law. We've known her for a few years now. Listen and learn. There is lots of on and off silence for the first 5 minutes or so (possibly up to 10 minutes) but finally this internet debate kicks off.

Leaving the Pfarm
www.blogtalkradio.com
Tonight on Leaving the Pfarm, CURRENT EVENTS, and how history repeats its self. We will recap what it means to be a “citizen” of the United States Incorporated, how a citizen owes its allegiance to a governing authority, and is subject* of the laws and duties imposed upon “it”. The war on terror, an...

23 February at 19:46

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Uwe Uehle

Arthur - I've listened to one of your videos while reading in this thread - you are basically saying that pretty much every main figure in the alternative movement are agents from Icke over Tsarion to Maxwell and Bonacci etc. - those are pretty strong statements - controlled opposition is a real phenomenon - we can all agree on that - I get your concept of the spell as it ties into Ickes problem-reaction-solution scenario. But aside from all of that - what would be the purpose of the OTTP if we assume it`s controlled opposition for a moment - a FEMA camp collector list or the slow preparation of open slavery - a distraction to prepare the next false flags to occur or what is your argument...

23 February at 19:47

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Steven Spiers

Arthur, your a hippy in a changing world, has history not shown you that minorities get oppressed by majorities, regardless of whether there is a SYSTEM or not.

Lets all run around hippy hills and be happy, shit dude it doesnt work like that, there are always going to be people that want what you have, jealousy is a part of humanity.

How you gonna defend yourself, you already admit to being oppressed for you thoughts.

23 February at 19:51

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Robyn Christine

From way back in this thread... I have a super slow connection atm, dang telstra.... REALLY urking me!!! but from what Steven and Authur is saying... I can see both have excellent useable lines of thought..... It's just in the realm of the illusion of time, that both have a place.... We are vortexing, and the illusion of time has sped up.... so that we are receiving information for now and for in the future.... at the same time.... I do beleive that Steven's line of thought is the first step though... to be able to 'be' in the first place... and then those who have set up refuges of freedom scattered all over the place... can then step in and accept and share experiences.... for all.... I think going the other way around would only incite malitia force and therefore fear.... We have to look into the eye of the devil, and face it, to defeat it.... in the first place... Not in hindsight of love of freedom and therefore fear of loss... BUT, it is good that some are doing it now!!! and they will gain momentum in time, as the beast is conquered... I do love this debate.... it brings soooooo much out..... on both sides of our side.... eh! there's that dualtiy thing again!!! Remember NO divide, NO conquer It is quite possibly ALL usefull information... in time... There are a lot of people trying to crack this law thing... she's a doosey!!! Last time a person contested the vatican was 500 years ago!!! Martin Luther, but was unsuccessful.... One man, stood up.... 500 hundred years ago!!!! What a luminarie!!! for ALL of us to stand up in heart... There has also been people for the longest time.... experiencing freedom, and working out best ways of approach.... Which would defintiey come in handy... time tested experience That's an asset!!!

23 February at 20:01

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Arthur Cristian

Do your homework Uwe. We exposed David Icke in 2005. He stayed in our home for 1 week back in 1996. There is so much ground to cover so best you explore David Icke in the Love For Life website. It's best to keep watching the videos and contemplate while you scrutinise everything we are saying. Santos we feel is a good bloke who genuinely believes in what he believes in but we prove, astrotheology, etc, is all man-made NON-SENSE, "intellectual property", which he is re-presenting. There are many of the "We Will Lead Every Revolution Against Us" lackeys/deceivers, out there.... Michael Tsarion and Jordan Maxwell are just the tip of the iceberg mate. Jordan and to a lesser extent Michael have known us for years and they refuse to debate with us. Look at what happened with Max Igan (refer to the other thread, the link you provided). They know we will rout out the main gut of the info they peddle as bullshit.They cannot back it. Belief is not truth/fact. To save heaps of going over the same ole ground in this thread please watch the videos and get back to us once you fully comprehend the big picture we are sharing. Then lets have a friendly debate Uwe.

23 February at 20:01

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Robyn Christine

oh look... I hit the 100th comment!!!!

23 February at 20:02

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Arthur Cristian

@ Steven.... Our replies for you are already covered in this thread, please go back to the start and begin from there. Lets just say, that looking at the images you are presenting in this thread "we don't see where harm/chaos ends and paradise begins? You are running around the yard like a chook with its head chopped off caused by non-sense images you are projecting, none of which are not of your making, they are not unique or original, instead they are implanted into you by others telling you how to think, feel and act. Where are you Steven? Who are you Steven? What are you mate?

You see with us, we are not intimidated by these people and their use of FORCE. Your claim of us as hippies is SLANDER, this implies we smoke dope and are drop outs, etc.

You are so caught up in personality cults, you don't want to see past the MAN and contemplate on the information being shared. This is just another of many cop outs you keep using to avoid confronting your belief systems and put them to the test. It is your prerogative to do whatever but you are unwilling to put your beliefs to the test to see if they are true or not How do you know if they are true, can you back the claims you make. You seem to know what our true intentions are, how we think, feel and act. Are you psychic??? Do you practice black magic as in remote viewing. Have you had any first party dealings with us, worked with us, lived with us, etc, to know who we really are, and our true intentions, attitudes, behaviour, etc. This attitude of yours is an attempt to impersonate our characters, hijacking them and claiming your thoughts, feelings & opinions about us are ours when in fact it is you who made them up. This is slander and is fraud mate. This attitude of yours is paranoia.

We have no belief, faith or associated opinion, we are not part of a cult, sect, think tank, society, secret or not, we are not alternative or mainstream or part of any other movement and we don't believe in race or culture either. We don't drink alcohol, take drugs, carry guns etc, We are non-violent. WE ARE MAN. Truth is always in PRESENT SENSE. We do not believe in a God or a Jesus or any other non-sense image like OPPT. You are barking up the wrong tree with us Steven. The information we share frees MAN from all lies. The onslaught of lies coming from all around us which saturates the net and Facebook is the issue here, we are just chipping away relentlessly, helping our brothers/sisters see/sense the non-sense images that puts them under the "spell". All belief, faith and associated opinion are "spells", they are images of non-sense.

23 February at 20:13

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Steven Spiers

i watch your videos, and you are right, but you are wrong, societies of men are not the issue. kings law as given to the people when the crown was given to the people is not the problem. Everything you speak IS religion. The SECRET societies in our societies. You sit here on a computer makes you a hypocrit, this non-sense is giving your senses its perception.

Science and Mathematics should be the religion. We all know about this lucifer, indoctrination blah blah, but how does that fix the UCC and the system that has been stolen from us.

Some Aristrocracy knew these things and others took them over. Lets all sit in the hills and be hippies. Think about your lost little ants putting space shuttles into space because of EDUCATION.

A brainwashed man who cant sense the purpose of the forest put a fuckiing internet all over the globe so you can coverse with other BEINGS.

You are sooooo right, but dont confuse societies with religion born from SECRET socities.

23 February at 20:27

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Uwe Uehle

I`ll do my homework - the rabbit holes of deception are very deep indeed - but you better have solid material - I`ve studied most of those you`re attacking for hundreds and hundreds of hours - why are you so passionate right now with all the death threads and attempts on your lives and family - you put your family at high risk if OPPT is really a big false flag - again I asked before what`s the purpose of OPPT given it`s controlled opposition - also just the fact that Tsarion or Maxwelll refuse to debate is no proof that your claims are valid - I appreciate your efforts as they seem genuine - do you have a direct link about your quantum physics claims - you realize that you dwarf any other conspiracy theory champion....

23 February at 20:27

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Arthur Cristian

@ Conscious Entity, just another of the many controlled opposition "remedies" they use to keep the rabbits busy digging for remedy, believing there is one there, a golden egg, a silver bullet, not realising that no matter how far they dig and dig they remain trapped in the prison ("The System"), distracted without a remedy to get them out of there. They remain completely compliant to "The System" as they suck and suck on the nipples of the private corporations for almost everything. In the meantime the Oligarchy keeps pushing ahead with their agenda without any opposition to slow this beast down, "The System", and destroy it. Refer to the ant-colony metaphor we use a lot in our videos.

23 February at 20:29

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Conscious Entity

the freeman of the land prinicples did work in the beginning , but what happened was too many got caught up in it all and started to do massive mistakes because they didnt understand it all , and so it has now failed , the same will happen to the OPPT ,the creator may have many wins , but once it gets fed into the masses people will goof it up and it will fail , as far as i am concerned , the only real true sovereignty is to ditch the entire system together and dont play there game.

23 February at 20:33

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Steven Spiers

Conscious Entity, Freeman, Sovereign, OPPT, all this crap IS ABOUT YOUR CONSTITUTION which has been raped. Your CORPORATE government is DENYING you your COMMON LAW rights. End of Story. This is what the fight is. Take away the commercial statute laws and return us to a free and common society.

23 February at 20:40

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Conscious Entity

Steven yes but.. but but but.. where do you think common law rights comes from ? the very same people who control and guide constitutions to the masses. a sovereign is not bound to common law , its not in there jurisdiction. , Common law is esential to our rights and freedoms yes , but they have taken it away from us.

23 February at 20:54

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Steven Spiers

Gypsy Rob thats right, the government should serve us, we should be our own masters, law should not exist until you step into law, ie murder someone, steal someones stuff, everyone is there own master, and as a society we appoint people to serve OUR interests.

When did this change to being told what to do.

23 February at 20:54

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Conscious Entity

thats the thing steven , from the moment you get into your car you are subjected to laws..and alot of them.

23 February at 20:56

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Arthur Cristian

@ Alan who said "Arthur good luck to you, I will travel my road and make my mistakes... you have failed to convince me or show me an alternative.. love and live"

It is your prerogative Alan but what we have learned is that it is essential that we all make the effort to scrutinise as much information as we can so that we learn to separate the wheat from the chaff. We say that you are still basing your thoughts on non-sense, based on the images you have presented thus far in this chat. Looking out across the horizon we are sharing in our work will never happen if you are planting trees in front of the view. Isn't it worth having a look to test the thoughts you are basing your life on? Currently, the way we see it and we can back this, you are heading down the route of entrapment into the next version of "The System" unless you are among the 90% obliterated by the fruitcakes behind "The System". No offence or attack on the MAN you are Alan; if we don't challenge each other, we will never get to the truth.

23 February at 20:56

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Steven Spiers

Conscious Entity, Common Law comes from the PEOPLE. Its law created by the people, voted on by the people started by Alexander the Great folowed through Westminster Acts of 1102AD, Magna Carta 1215AD, Habeus Corpus, Petition of Rights, Bill of Rights, Island Treaties. The crown IS the people. Common Law is law BY THE PEOPLE. King James Bible. MEN made MAN in his own image. A book written by men for men to show man the law. Its that simple.

Secret Societies like to control things, we live in a commercial law world where our common law world has been removed from us.

We did this because people dont like to be murdered or have their stuff stolen off them. So you can be a hippy and think law doesnt matter.

The religious blinding, dark ages, destruction of knowledge is another matter altogether.

23 February at 21:26

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Arthur Cristian

@ Uwe, once you comprehend NON-SENSE and recognise it for what it is, of your doing, you will begin obliterating all forms of non-sense images you are presently believing to be truth otherwise your conscience will eat at you. This is what happens to all of us (thousands and thousands of us are presently doing this mate) when we return to SENSE. All we have done is provide you with the tools to do it. You need to learn how to use them and then pick them up and go for it.

23 February at 21:26

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Arthur Cristian

@ Steven, "Natural", "Common" and "Commercial" Laws are of "The System", they are not natural, are non-sense = "intellectual property", they are man-made, forcing other men and women to fall into them, to be in their image, to be under their standing. All forms of intellectual property IS FRAUD.

23 February at 21:36

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Steven Spiers

Arthur, you MAJOR failure is education. mathematics and science. to say thats all non sense is rediculous. And to not be accounatble for your actions in your society that was created by your peers. This is your one major failure. YOU ARE ANSWERABLE to your peers. Those other BEINGS around you.

You mix knowledge with esoteric jesuit stuff.

The Vatican is the Order of the House of Jesuits, the Black Pope, and the will to control and indoctrinate, but educated people with sense can see the non sense of the story of lucifer.

You speak 33BC, what about Plato, Aristotle, Pythagoras, do you think these thoughts, stories, and proven facts in maths are nonsense.

We have moved from a 4th dimension of single space into a 5th dimension of ethereal information already, your world is in the last dimension.

23 February at 21:40

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Steven Spiers

Arthur your not forced, you choose to run away from a society. You choose to be a hippy in the hills that doesnt want to trade with people or be accountable for your actions.

Laws were created by men for the benefit of men. Im sorry, but you make a lot of sense, but your a hippy, not everybody wants to be a friggin hippy like you.

And i still find it hypcrtical that you use a method of mathemtics to make your claim, shouldnt you be hugging trees instead of using this mathematical device that runs on magnsetism and light.

23 February at 21:46

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Lance Hull

Negative energy folks, all negative.

23 February at 22:22

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Freeman Delusion

I think this thread has gone a bit off topic. This was about OPPT.

23 February at 22:26

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Freeman Delusion

Is the foreclosure even valid.
Does the filing legally even require a rebuttal.
Is it a valid court defence.
Where is the evidence.

23 February at 22:30

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Freeman Delusion

Some faiths believe elves come out at night and paint the grass green. Nothing wrong with belief based on nothing but faith, if that is what you're seeking. But you need more than just faith and good intentions to win in court. OPPT is useless without proof of the above.

23 February at 22:40

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Arthur Cristian

Steven we use the dead-world of non-sense to reach those we can reach to inspire them to return to sense. Life is a team effort, so is the dead world so we do what we can to break down any links to team efforts setting the system into motion and inspire them to co-create team efforts with nature, setting communities/tribes/do no harm communities into motion. Everything else has already been shared in this thread.

23 February at 22:44

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Steven Spiers

until the society next door likes your food/land/housing better. thats why men created common laws for man and shaped man in his own image.

23 February at 22:51

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Arthur Cristian

Steven, we have free-will. Is there something wrong with that? What you are arguing for is the continuation of MAN under another MAN.

Have you not realised that ALL forms of MAN-made Systems no matter what require slaves and rulers, cause loss of uniqueness/originality tor everyone brainwashed into becoming the cogs(labourers/workers/blue & white collars/etc) in the wheels of the system progress. Anyone claiming "ownership" using "intellectual property" as the basis for their claim, requires the above and further to that requires FORCE to protect their claims leading to everyone being subjected to a govern(men)t again, regardless of guise. GREAT, now we are back to square one again....still trapped. More on all this in the Max Igan thread: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/168861396594454

Run away from what??????
A drop out from what Steven.... leaving something better for something worse????

Are you ok mate?

What is this something better you can bring forward to back your claim????

Does it provide freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, do no harm, no loss of uniqueness/originality, no slaves and rulers??????

Are you saying everyone is free, happy and content right now and if they are not there is something wrong with them and is why they are running away from it?????

Have you ever thought about people wanting to take FULL-RESPONSIBILITY for their lives?

Is there something wrong with that?

Why are these threads occurring, is it because we all want to chat about our love for war, death, poisons, violence, fear, greed, selfishness, injustice,............etc, and love being slaves whipped by slave masters to conform each day after a hard days work??????

So you are promoting LIMITED-LIABILITY/RESPONSIBILITY.!!!!

Tell us Steven.... WHO IS YOUR MASTER?

Show us the benefits of these laws you claim benefit MAN Steven. They must meet this criteria otherwise they ain't a benefit at all: do they provide freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance and do no harm for all of life without causing loss of uniqueness/originality for everyone and everything and no slaves and rulers?

Isn't this what you want too?? In all the years we have been doing the Love For Life work we have not yet met anyone who says they don't want this criteria.... ANYONE.

Are you the first to come forward Steven?

Or are you a closet masochist or a secret hater/saboteur of any of the above criteria?

23 February at 23:08

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Gary Carlyle

Cook Gypsy Rob. Whether they believe they dont have to rebut it or not, they have to listen. Because we are going to make them listen. Because it is right and lawful. Whether it is "legal" or not. The people getting behind it will give it the 'power' it needs. Dont support them bro. They are not your friends.

23 February at 23:10

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Alan Clark

natural law... all men are created equal... we are not answerable to their laws... I do not consent to their system, we dont ask for freedom . WE DEMAND IT

23 February at 23:13

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Exactly I dont want to hear their legal rubbish. I have better things to do with my life.

23 February at 23:14

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Arthur Cristian

And then thiis

"Arthur, you MAJOR failure is education. mathematics and science. to say that's all non sense is ridiculous. And to not be accountable for your actions in your society that was created by your peers. This is your one major failure. YOU ARE ANSWERABLE to your peers. Those other BEINGS around you.

You mix knowledge with esoteric jesuit stuff."

Back your claims Steven... Where have we said this?
This is slander Steven. You are openly lying now.

Let me tell you now, there are just a few dribbs and drabs still getting hooked into the subtle manipulation tactics you peddle on threads like these, fortunately a large majority are waking up and moving away from your nets. They don't bother wasting their precious lives amongst lies and liars, white-washers/white-anters and shit-stirrers.

The death of this scam is almost complete.

Unless we do harm we are not answerable to anyone including Freemasonic/Satanic Engineered societies that you so love and worship?

And, this MAN has no contracts with your dead-world... NONE.

23 February at 23:24

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Steven Spiers

you said this with your voice on a video streaming to me on youtube through electrical magnetic and light sources based on mathematics and science in which you describe all knowledge as a NON sense. which is just ridiculous. So no you slandered yourself with your own words in your own voice with your own tongue and its own breath from your living soul.. Its just a shame that the mathematics of the internet contradicts much of what you speak.

23 February at 23:27

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Arthur Cristian

Steven we were addressing this comment "You mix knowledge with esoteric jesuit stuff.""

As for mathematics, etc,,, yes it is non-sense and does harm to MAN/Earth, you have to destroy sensory life-forms to create dead-corpse physical.material forms of their non-sense images. It is All explained in the videos.

23 February at 23:30

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Arthur Cristian

Where there is no life it is fraud to pretend there is.

23 February at 23:31

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Arthur Cristian

All man-made knowledge is NON-SENSE. It is FRAUD.

23 February at 23:32

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Arthur. You are really opinionated. And I have never said this to anybody before but your comments are distracting all of us from trying to sort things out. Can you stop contradicting everybody out of ego please. You are not some guru. You are just another human like all of us. Peace.

23 February at 23:33

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Arthur Cristian

Back your claims Gary.... we've been waiting for you to come forward and back them... Belief is not proof of fact/truth.

23 February at 23:34

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Arthur Cristian

HUE-MAN - HU-MAN - HU/Hu/Hue is a shade/shadow of MAN.
Arthur & Fiona Cristian are MAN,
We are not less than a MAN.
Maybe you are.

23 February at 23:37

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Arthur Cristian

The Beast that is OPPT has been killed.

23 February at 23:44

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Sorry for being Harsh. Nothing personal.

23 February at 23:58

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Freeman Delusion

Is the foreclosure even valid. Does the filing legally even require a rebuttal. Is it a valid court defence. Where is the evidence. Without these its just an opinion, almost a religious faith, linked to the galactic federation of light.

23 February at 23:58

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Freeman Delusion

Is the foreclosure even valid. Does the filing legally even require a rebuttal. Is it a valid court defence. Where is the evidence. Without these its just an opinion, almost a religious faith, linked to the galactic federation of light.

23 February at 23:58

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Gary Carlyle Cook

I get your point Rob. You are being rational. Lets find that out. Although from my asking around people that know about law, from what they said, a properly filed UCC filing has to be rubutted or it becomes international law and it was properly filed.

24 February at 00:02

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Gary Carlyle Cook

It wont be a 'valid' court defense legally, because they make that up as the go along, but it is a valid defense lawfully and that counts for more.

24 February at 00:03

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Arthur Cristian

You have no idea Gary do you. The clue to your true power (and others) to defeat the beast was provided in this thread but it went right over your head, thanks to the distractions of non-sense.

24 February at 00:10

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Freeman Delusion

Without being legally binding, its just a belief, even with a huge number of devotees it has limits. It could become a nation and declare self-determination, it could become a religion and declare galactic instructions for believers, it could start a political party and defend its constituents.

24 February at 00:16

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Gary Carlyle Cook

That is all their stuff bro. According to them we are GOYIM. Are we really goyim? No, Of course not.

24 February at 00:21

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Freeman Delusion

The second sounds pretty scary actually, when their "creator" turns up and resumes authority.

24 February at 00:22

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Gary Carlyle Cook If he turns up.

24 February at 00:23

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Freeman Delusion

Without it being a remedy in law, or even having legal force, it has no use to anyone. Not even mentioning the associated charges. In what court are you getting your "lawful" remedy heard? None? It doesn't exist?

24 February at 00:30

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Thats a very good point and I will work that out with the others when I speak to them but it is work in progress bro. You don't want to help us all become free?

24 February at 00:41

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Freeman Delusion

"We know terra nullius was a lie, we really genocided your people, stole your land and are still acting unlawfully..but..we'll invade your remote communities steal your kids and further impose our will. There is not even a court that will deal lawfully on these obvious crimes, including the ICC

24 February at 00:43

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Of course but that is why exactly that it doesnt matter if it is legal or not. It is lawful and rational and good. IT is just a framework. All we need is enough support.

24 February at 00:46

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Freeman Delusion

Without a majority of population oppting per country, it is just a political/religious movement (with a portion of a vote if they registered) but nevertheless a minority group that has no power without following democratic principles.

24 February at 00:54

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Freeman Delusion

Without a majority of population oppting per country, it is just a political/religious movement (with a portion of a vote if they registered) but nevertheless a minority group that has no power without following democratic principles.

24 February at 00:54

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Freeman Delusion

Once OPPT fails the legal test, and people still maintain their not bound by the law, they will go to jail same as everyone. Is that the new "free" is it? In jail?

24 February at 01:01

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Joseph Bergrath

Sovereign Citizen is an oxymoron.

24 February at 01:10

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Alan Clark

SOVEREIGN BEING

24 February at 01:11

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Gary Carlyle Cook

nobody is bound by the law. what u are talking about rob is not the law. its just fraud.

you cant predict what is going to happen but if u want to just give up that is all good by me. you can study their system all you want but it always changes and will never be your system.

24 February at 01:50

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Freeman Delusion

If you smoke some herb and you're arrested and charged, you will be subject to this "fraud" and sentenced to jail same as everyone else. These types of defence have been declared Vexatious and Frivolous, and disregarded by precedent cases.

24 February at 03:01

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Gary Carlyle Cook

That's their stuff brother. Its up to us to force them to see sense. Its us or them. Do or die.

24 February at 03:05

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Freeman Delusion

"Giving up" lol !! It may be some "new way" to some people lol But I have been researching this train of thought for 34 years. The word ILLUMINATI was on my homeschool grade 2 spelling chart, and "new world order" was a household subject from the age of 7.

24 February at 03:14

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Gary Carlyle Cook

dude ive been researching this for 15 years myself. doesn't take a genius to work out how evil and corrupt they are. its time we all stick together rather than trying to be the smartest or something.

24 February at 03:24

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Gary Carlyle Cook

although personally i appreciate your input and your points. i will look in to them and try and think of solutions.

24 February at 03:25

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Freeman Delusion

As I said, I think OPPT is a belief system, and nothing more. 99% blind faith in a fictitious "foreclosure of everything" that will collapse the economy and forgive all debts, reinburse land title to first peoples, make us all billionaires and subject to no law. We need EVIDENCE of Lawful Remedy.

24 February at 03:48

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Gary Carlyle Cook

That is true. But we are working on that. It is not going to all fall in to place over night but it is how things should be so it will happen if people support it. And they should. Who wouldnt want that.

24 February at 03:52

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Freeman Delusion

I require Proof of claim. I read enough fairytales to my kids.

24 February at 03:52

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Gary Carlyle Cook

That will come in time.

24 February at 03:52

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Steven Spiers

OPPT isnt the belief system, its just a window into that belief system. someone will come along and close it, unless we put a chock inthat window to keep it open, then we can break into the house.

24 February at 06:27

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Pinko Commie

...and the seeds of hatred have already begun to sprout with this oppt scam.

24 February at 07:53

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Gary Carlyle Cook

its people OUTSIDE of OPPT-IN that are hating. some people. nobody here though.

24 February at 07:55

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Freeman Delusion

I don't hate, I just don't see anything to be "IN" about. As I said, without evidence it remains a belief, a theory, as far-fetched as scientology. If there's no legal remedy, its a window with bars on it.

24 February at 08:07

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Gary Carlyle Cook

i wasnt referring to you mate. but legal remedy for what?

24 February at 08:12

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Freeman Delusion

Remedy (in law, for charges) as portrayed in the whole fictitious "forclosure".

24 February at 08:35

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Freeman Delusion

I know that the "One Peoples Public Trust" supercedes all other trusts and systems. It clearly says so right here in these OPPT documents...

24 February at 08:46

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Alan Clark

Rob you sit in your cell and remain a slave... we with the BALLS demand freedom...

24 February at 08:48

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Freeman Delusion

Its funny, when I ask questions simply seeking one shred of evidence of validation, I am austracised like a holocaust realist in a room full of zionists. In this thread I have even been labelled as "evil" unless I oppt in, but "balls" Allan lol? Are any of you in court atm, actually done jail time??

24 February at 09:10

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Freeman Delusion

Have any of you beat the crown 6 times running to date, all dismissed?? Any layed the lives of your kids and them being taken from you on your own legal presumptions, and won??

24 February at 09:16

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Freeman Delusion

Squatted beside rivers on crown land all around australia and fought to stay there?? Maybe you dismissed a parking ticket??

24 February at 09:19

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Alan Clark

rob give me your address.. I will send you a fuckin medal.. just stop being negative about such an incredible bunch of people that have created the door for freedom.... I am running through it, I have nothing to loose!!! if there is NWO agents at the other side, so be it. I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees

24 February at 09:22

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Freeman Delusion

If not, then this is all a result of a program, a systematised delusion, hot air and no experience. Maybe you are the one with a lack of "balls" Allan, because my whole life has been about roaming as I please and doing no harm, subject only to the creator.

24 February at 09:28

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Alan Clark

you are doing harm now by generating negative energy

24 February at 09:31

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Gary Carlyle Cook

well there u go rob. whats ur prob with it then. we are just doing that same thing in our own way. everybody wants to be the new Winston Strout or something these days.

24 February at 09:33

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Freeman Delusion

I am sorry you believe their systematised delusion without any evidence. Thats all I seek. OPPT is not "fighting", it's mass martyrdom. I don't need prison bars to remind me of the meaning of FREE, I learnt that as a kid.

24 February at 09:36

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Gary Carlyle Cook

dude their is evidence of the filings. ALL unrebuted UCC filings become law. unless i am wrong? and even if i am wrong about that its the right thing to do anyway.

24 February at 09:38

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Freeman Delusion

That sounds almost "sheep"-ish Allan, if I question anything I'm being "negative" lol? 80% of humanity is asleep because of that philosophy. What's next, religion and politics banned from conversation? Only allowed to question certain things? Without remedy in law, there is no doorway.

24 February at 09:47

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Freeman Delusion

Just to testify of my own experience, I have never had a licence or registration either, and still DROVE AROUND AUSTRALIA SIX TIMES down every road in the last 20 years. Once from Daintree to Darwin overloaded and without number plates lol

24 February at 09:57

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Freeman Delusion

Well, Gary, shouldn't you check up on that UCC rebuttal theory, and maybe accept that without it, the most crucial, validating part of this philosophy, there is no "foreclosure". That exposes this scheme as fraud.

24 February at 10:04

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Gary Carlyle Cook

maybe i just like the movement and the pretty females in it

24 February at 10:14

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Freeman Delusion

A friend is going to court with DoCS trying to take her kids away. I'm not as blind and irresponsible to encourage her to send them a "courtesy notice" that they've been "foreclosed" upon. The kids will go to some foster home forever, because of my apparent "positivity".

24 February at 10:17

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Same thing could thing could happen because of the false beliefs FREEMEN have but I look for peoples intentions more than the technical details.

Anyway this is your wall so I wont challnge you.

24 February at 10:21

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Freeman Delusion

Leading innocent people to their slaughter by their ignorance and blind trust in a theory based in a lie, is REAL HARM not just bad vibes. It is fraud. It seems you's are perpetuating and repeating the theory, but ignoring the founding lie.

24 February at 10:28

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Earthica-Star Soveran

NOTICE OF UNLAWFUL USE OF “FICTITIOUS, FALSE,
OR ASSUMED NAME, TITLE ” IN VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAW
UNDER UNITED STATES CODE TITLE 18, SECTION 1342, & FINAL NOTICE & DEMAND OF Star: Hills1. TO THE ABOVE NAMED COURT; THE CLERK OF THE ABOVE NAMED COURT; THE EXECUTIVE OFFICER & ADMINISTRATOR OF THE ABOVE NAMED COURT; AND ALL INTERESTED PARTIES & THEIR COUNSEL OF RECORD IN THE ABOVE ENTITLED ACTION, Star: Hills IN THE ABOVE ENTITLED ACTION #: S 1500 CV 265552, HEREBY GIVES LAWFUL NOTICE OF UNLAWFUL USE OF “FICTITIOUS, FALSE, OR ASSUMED NAME, TITLE” IN VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAW UNDER UNITED STATES CODE TITLE 18, SECTION 1342 AS FOLLOWS:

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2. All of the above named Entities, Officers, Employees, Parties & Persons have been
sending written correspondence, or causing, or allowing to be sent, written correspondence to the living woman known by: Star: Hills, sui juris plaintiff in case
#’s: S 1500 CV 265552; ( Related Cases: S 1500 CL 236547 SMK; S 1500 CL 237061
SMK ) “by means of the Postal Service” of the United states mail, in violation of Federal
Law under United States Code Section 1342, which mandates the following in appropriate part: US CODE TITLE 18, SECTION 1342: “ Whoever, for the purpose of conducting, promoting, or carrying on by means of the Postal Service, any scheme or device mentioned in any section of this title or any other unlawful business, uses or assumes ” “ any fictitious, false, or assumed title, name” “or takes or receives from any post office or authorized depository of mail matter, any letter, postal card, package, or other mail matter addressed to any such fictitious, false, or assumed title, name, or address, or name other than his own proper name, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. ”

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1. All correspondence sent to the living woman known by the appellation Star: Hills, (who is called “Star” and hereafter referred to as “Star” in this document), from the said court, and from the said parties in the above Entitled Actions have been knowingly & intentionally presented under the all capitalized fictional name of “STAR HILLS” on the envelopes they were sent in, and all documents inside said envelopes sent by said court have also been presented with the same all capitalized fictional name STAR HILLS.

4. All correspondence sent to Star by all said parties to the above entitled actions

GMAC MORTGAGE, LLC, ETS SERVICES LLC, Et Al, S 1500 CV 265552;

S 1500 CL 236547 SMK; S 1500 CL 237061 SMK, have been knowingly &

intentionally presented under the all capitalized fictional name of “STAR HILLS”

on the envelopes they were sent in, and all documents inside said envelopes sent

by said parties have also been presented with the same all capitalized fictional

name STAR HILLS.

5. Previously in her opposition to the prior filed Demurrer of said parties in case #:
S 1500 CV 265552, Star provided a copy of her Notice of Status as an exhibit to the
said opposition which clearly stated her status as a sovereign under the Creator,
and not a legal fiction or a fictional person or entity or a member of the debtor class of the body politic: The District of Columbia, The United States or of the State of
California, which the above named court is hereby requested to take judicial notice of
pursuant to the express & mandatory provisions of California Evidence Code Section
451-453, Et Sequiter, which said opposition & all exhibits therein are hereby
incorporated herein as if fully set forth and made a part of this notice.

6. Attempting to engage the said Star to answer said correspondences by the said
court & said parties is an attempt to influence her into participating in a fraud and or
to commit a fraud as set forth in the prior cited United States Code Title 18, Section
1342, which is a tort by said parties against Star, for which the said parties may
be held liable in a court of law of competent jurisdiction for fraud, constructive fraud,
and billed in accordance with the Fee Schedule set forth in Star’s said Notice of Status prior served on all entities named herein.

See exhibit

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FINAL NOTICE & DEMAND

7. Star, the real live natural woman hereby serves Written NOTICE that her own
"proper name", in her common understanding of the word “name” (which has been
taught to children since pre-school age to mean “what they are called” and has been
redefined in legal understanding as to designate a ‘fictitious title’ and infers that the title
and the ‘thing’ for which the title has been given are one in the same, ie: “I am not what
I am called”), is using upper and lower case letters. Any other "name" is NOT
"proper", is fictitious, false, or assumed and a violation of the laws. Star does not
consent to & will not receive any such fictitious violative mail matter, with name spelled
any other way.

The proper mail location for Star is not a false, fictitious, or assumed non existent

two capital letter abbreviation or number area. The proper mail location

designation that is to be used for Star is spelled fully out in

upper and lowercase letters using no TRADE ZONE numbers, (ZIP CODE).

Star will receive and accept mail so designated and delivered, and any

reception of said mail is not an agreement or consent to entering into the said body

politic, nor an admission of guilt by any acceptance or association, and accepted only under duress and by force due to lack of any alternative . Any "mail matter"

designated otherwise is a false, fictitious, or assumed address, and is a clear continuing violation of Title 18, sec. #’s 1341 and 1342, and is prosecutable thereunder.
Further any use of such fictitious “name” or “title” or fictional “address” by the court in its dockets, computers, or court postings, or inter-office memoranda, court, county or
state agency communications, is a continued violation of United States Code Title 18
sections #’s 1341 and 1342; as no such fictitous person or entity exists in connection with the living breathing woman known by: Star: Hills, and consists of the same ongoing fraud cited in United States Code Title 18 section 1341 and 1342.

Star hereby gives final Notice & Demand to the said Court & Parties that she hereby demands they cease & desist from sending any correspondence through the United States Mail, or by private mail carrier bearing the said all capitalized legal fiction “STAR HILLS”, and the fictitous address and TRADE ZONE, (“ZIP”): “3018 LINDEN AVE. BAKERSFIELD, CA. 93305”, and that any and all further correspondences by mail be addressed to her as follows:

Star: Hills

temporary mailing location

care of: general post

near: [Bakersfield , California]

non domestic, without the U.S.

24 February at 11:12

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Earthica-Star Soveran

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Memorandum of Law

What English grammar experts say

One of the foremost authorities on American English grammar, style, composition, and rules is The Chicago Manual of Style. The latest (14th) Edition, published by the University of Chicago Press, is internationally known and respected as a major contribution to maintaining and improving the standards of written or printed text. Since we can find no reference in their manual concerning the use of all capitalized letters with a proper name or any other usage, we wrote to the editors and asked this question:
"Is it acceptable, or is there any rule of English grammar, to allow a proper name to be written in all capital letters? For example, if my name was John Paul Jones, can it be written as JOHN PAUL JONES? Is there any rule covering this?"

The Editorial Staff of the University of Chicago answered:
"Writing names in all caps is not conventional; it is not Chicago style to put anything in all caps. For instance, even if 'GONE WITH THE WIND' appears on the title page all in caps, we would properly render it 'Gone with the Wind' in a bibliography. The only reason we can think of to do so is if you are quoting some material where it is important to the narrative to preserve the casing of the letters.

"We're not sure in what context you would like your proper name to appear in all caps, but it is likely to be seen as a bit odd."

Law is extremely precise. Every letter, capitalization, punctuation mark, etc., in a legal document is utilized for a specific reason and has legal (i.e. deadly force) consequences. If, for instance, one attempts to file articles of incorporation in the office of a Secretary of State of a State, if the exact title of the corporation - down to every jot and tittle - is not exactly the same each and every time the corporation is referenced in the documents to be filed, the Secretary of State will refuse to file the papers. This is because each time the name of the corporation is referenced it must be set forth identically in order to express the same legal entity. The tiniest difference in the name of the corporation identifies an entirely different legal person.

It is therefore an eminently valid, and possibly crucial, question as to why governments, governmental courts, and agencies purporting to exist (in some undefined, unproved manner) within the jurisdiction of "this state" insist on always capitalizing every letter in a proper name.
Mary Newton Bruder, Ph.D., also known as The Grammar Lady, who established the Grammar Hotline in the late 1980's for the "Coalition of Adult Literacy," was asked the following question:

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"Why do federal and state government agencies and departments, judicial and administrative courts, insurance companies, etc., spell a person's proper name in all capital letters? For example, if my name is John Paul Jones, is it proper at any time to write my name as JOHN PAUL JONES?"

Dr. Bruder's reply was short and to the point:
"It must be some kind of internal style. There is no grammar rule about it."

It seemed that these particular grammatical experts had no idea why proper names were written in all caps, so we began to assemble an extensive collection of reference books authored by various publishers, governments, and legal authorities to find the answer.

What English grammar reference books say

Manual on Usage & Style
One of the reference books obtained was the "Manual on Usage & Style," Eighth Edition, ISBN I-878674-51-X, published by the Texas Law Review in 1995. Section D, CAPITALIZATION, paragraph D: 1:1 states:
"Always capitalize proper nouns... [Proper nouns], independent of the context in which they are used, refer to specific persons, places, or things (e.g., Dan, Austin, Rolls Royce)."
Paragraph D: 3:2 of Section D states:
"Capitalize People, State, and any other terms used to refer to the government as a litigant (e.g., the People's case, the State's argument), but do not capitalize other words used to refer to litigants (e.g., the plaintiff, defendant Manson)."
Either no attorney, judge, or law clerk in Texas has ever read the recognized law style manual that purports to pertain to them, or the act is a deliberate violation of the rules for undisclosed reasons. In either ignorance ("ignorance of the law is no excuse") or violation (one violating the law he enforces on others is acting under title of nobility and abrogating the principle of equality under the law) of law, they continue to write "Plaintiff," "Defendant," "THE STATE OF TEXAS" and proper names of parties in all capital letters on every court document.

The Elements of Style

Another well-recognized reference book is "The Elements of Style," Fourth Edition, ISBN 0-205-30902-X, written by William Strunk, Jr. and E.B. White, published by Allyn & Bacon in 1999. Within this renowned English grammar and style reference book, is found only one reference to capitalization, located within the Glossary at "proper noun," page 94, where it states:
"The name of a particular person (Frank Sinatra), place (Boston), or thing (Moby Dick). Proper nouns are capitalized."
There's an obvious and legally evident difference between capitalizing the first letter of a proper

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name as compared to capitalizing every letter used to portray the name.

The American Heritage Book of English Usage

The American Heritage Book of English Usage, A Practical and Authoritative Guide to Contemporary English, published in 1996, at Chapter 9, E-Mail, Conventions and Quirks, Informality, states:
"To give a message special emphasis, an E-mailer may write entirely in capital letters, a device E-mailers refer to as screaming. Some of these visual conventions have emerged as a way of getting around the constraints on data transmission that now limit many networks".

Here is a reference source, within contemporary - modern - English, that states it is of an informal manner to write every word of - specifically - an electronic message, a.k.a. e-mail, in capital letters. They say it's "screaming" to do so. By standard definition, we presume that is the same as shouting or yelling. Are all judges, as well as their court clerks and attorneys, shouting at us when they corrupt our proper names in this manner? (If so, what happened to the decorum of a court if everyone is yelling?) Is the insurance company screaming at us for paying the increased premium on our Policy? This is doubtful as to any standard generalization, even though specific individual instances may indicate this to be true. It is safe to conclude, however, that it would also be informal to write a proper name in the same way.

Does this also imply that those in the legal profession are writing our Christian names informally on court documents? Are not attorneys and the courts supposed to be specific, formally writing all legal documents to the "letter of the law?" If the law is at once both precise and not precise, what is its significance, credibility, and force and effect?

24 February at 11:38

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Earthica-Star Soveran

New Oxford Dictionary of English

"The New Oxford Dictionary of English" is published by the Oxford University Press. Besides being considered the foremost authority on the British English language, this dictionary is also designed to reflect the way language is used today through example sentences and phrases. We submit the following definitions from the 1998 edition:
"Proper noun (also proper name)."
"Noun."
"A name used for an individual person, place, or organization, spelled with an initial capital letter, e.g. Jane, London, and Oxfam."
"Name."
"Noun."
"1. A word or set of words by which a person, animal, place, or thing is known,

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addressed, or referred to: my name is Parsons, John Parsons. Kalkwasser is the
German name for limewater."
"Verb."
"2. Identify by name; give the correct name for: the dead man has been named as John Mackintosh."
"Phrases."
"3. In the name of. Bearing or using the name of A specified person or organization: a driving license in the name of William Sanders."
From the "Newbury House Dictionary of American English," published by Monroe Allen Publishers, Inc., (1999):
"name"
"n. I [C] a word by which a person, place, or thing is known: Her name is Diane Daniel."

We can find absolutely no example in any recognized reference book that specifies or allows the use of all capitalized names, proper or common. There is no doubt that a proper name, to be grammatically correct, must be written with only the first letter capitalized, with the remainder of the word in a name spelled with lower case letters.

US Government Style Manual

Is the spelling and usage of a proper name defined officially by US Government? Yes. The United States Government Printing Office in their "Style Manual," March 1984 edition (the most recent edition published as of March 2000), provides comprehensive grammar, style and usage for all government publications, including court and legal writing.

Chapter 3, "Capitalization," at ' 3.2, prescribes rules for proper names:
"Proper names are capitalized. [Examples given are] Rome, Brussels, John Macadam, Macadam family, Italy, Anglo-Saxon."

At Chapter 17, "Courtwork, the rules of capitalization," as mentioned in Chapter 3, are further reiterated:
"17.1."
"Courtwork differs in style from other work only as set forth in this section; otherwise the style prescribed in the preceding sections will be followed."

After reading '17 in entirety, I found no other references that would change the grammatical rules and styles specified in Chapter 3 pertaining to capitalization.

At ' 17.9, this same official US Government manual states:
"In the titles of cases the first letter of all principal words are capitalized, but not such terms as defendant and appellee."

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This wholly agrees with Texas Law Review's Manual on "Usage & Style" as referenced above.

Examples shown in ' 17.12 are also consistent with the aforementioned '17.9 specification: that is, all proper names are to be spelled with capital first letters; the balance of each spelled with lower case letters.

Grammar, Punctuation, and Capitalization

"The National Aeronautics and Space Administration" (NASA) has published one of the most concise US Government resources on capitalization. NASA publication SP-7084, "Grammar, Punctuation, and Capitalization. "A Handbook for Technical Writers and Editors" was compiled and written by the NASA Langley Research Center in Hampton, Virginia. At Chapter 4, "Capitalization," they state in 4.1 "Introduction:"
"First we should define terms used when discussing capitalization:
All caps means that every letter in an expression is capital, LIKE THIS.
Caps & 1c means that the principal words of an expression are capitalized, Like This.
Caps and small caps refer to a particular font of type containing small capital letters instead of lowercase letters.
Elements in a document such as headings, titles, and captions may be capitalized in either sentence style or headline style:
Sentence style calls for capitalization of the first letter, and proper nouns of course.
Headline style calls for capitalization of all principal words (also called caps & lc).
Modern publishers tend toward a down style of capitalization, that is, toward use of fewer capitals, rather than an up style."
Here we see that in headlines, titles, captions, and in sentences, there is no authorized usage of all caps. At 4.4.1. "Capitalization With Acronyms," we find the first authoritative use for all caps:
"Acronyms are always formed with capital letters.'
"Acronyms are often coined for a particular program or study and therefore require definition.'
"The letters of the acronym are not capitalized in the definition unless the acronym stands for a proper name:'
"Wrong - The best electronic publishing systems combine What You See Is What

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You Get (WYSIWYG) features...'
"Correct - The best electronic publishing systems combine what you see is what you get (WYSIWYG) features...'
"But Langley is involved with the National Aero-Space Plane (NASP) Program."
This cites, by example, that using all caps is allowable in an acronym. "Acronyms" are words formed from the initial letters of successive parts of a term. They never contain periods and are often not standard, so that definition is required..
The most significant section appears at 4.5, "Administrative Names":
"Official designations of political divisions and of other organized bodies are capitalized:
Names of political divisions;
Canada, New York State;
United States Northwest Territories;
Virgin Islands, Ontario Province;
Names of governmental units, US Government Executive Department, US Congress, US Army;
US Navy."
According to this official US Government publication, the States are never to be spelled in all caps such as "NEW YORK STATE." The proper English grammar - and legal - style is "New York State." This agrees, once again, with Texas Law.
The authors of "The Real Life Dictionary of the Law," Gerald and Kathleen Hill, are accomplished scholars and writers. Gerald Hill is an experienced attorney, judge, and law instructor. Here is how the term legal fiction is described:
"Legal fiction."
"n. A presumption of fact assumed by a court for convenience, consistency or to achieve justice.'
"There is an old adage: Fictions arise from the law, and not law from fictions."

24 February at 11:39

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Earthica-Star Soveran

New Oxford Dictionary of English

"The New Oxford Dictionary of English" is published by the Oxford University Press. Besides being considered the foremost authority on the British English language, this dictionary is also designed to reflect the way language is used today through example sentences and phrases. We submit the following definitions from the 1998 edition:
"Proper noun (also proper name)."
"Noun."
"A name used for an individual person, place, or organization, spelled with an initial capital letter, e.g. Jane, London, and Oxfam."
"Name."
"Noun."
"1. A word or set of words by which a person, animal, place, or thing is known,

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addressed, or referred to: my name is Parsons, John Parsons. Kalkwasser is the
German name for limewater."
"Verb."
"2. Identify by name; give the correct name for: the dead man has been named as John Mackintosh."
"Phrases."
"3. In the name of. Bearing or using the name of A specified person or organization: a driving license in the name of William Sanders."
From the "Newbury House Dictionary of American English," published by Monroe Allen Publishers, Inc., (1999):
"name"
"n. I [C] a word by which a person, place, or thing is known: Her name is Diane Daniel."
We can find absolutely no example in any recognized reference book that specifies or allows the use of all capitalized names, proper or common. There is no doubt that a proper name, to be grammatically correct, must be written with only the first letter capitalized, with the remainder of the word in a name spelled with lower case letters.

US Government Style Manual
Is the spelling and usage of a proper name defined officially by US Government? Yes. The United States Government Printing Office in their "Style Manual," March 1984 edition (the most recent edition published as of March 2000), provides comprehensive grammar, style and usage for all government publications, including court and legal writing.
Chapter 3, "Capitalization," at ' 3.2, prescribes rules for proper names:
"Proper names are capitalized. [Examples given are] Rome, Brussels, John Macadam, Macadam family, Italy, Anglo-Saxon."
At Chapter 17, "Courtwork, the rules of capitalization," as mentioned in Chapter 3, are further reiterated:
"17.1."
"Courtwork differs in style from other work only as set forth in this section; otherwise the style prescribed in the preceding sections will be followed."
After reading '17 in entirety, I found no other references that would change the grammatical rules and styles specified in Chapter 3 pertaining to capitalization.
At ' 17.9, this same official US Government manual states:
"In the titles of cases the first letter of all principal words are capitalized, but not such terms as defendant and appellee."

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This wholly agrees with Texas Law Review's Manual on "Usage & Style" as referenced above.
Examples shown in ' 17.12 are also consistent with the aforementioned '17.9 specification: that is, all proper names are to be spelled with capital first letters; the balance of each spelled with lower case letters.

Grammar, Punctuation, and Capitalization

"The National Aeronautics and Space Administration" (NASA) has published one of the most concise US Government resources on capitalization. NASA publication SP-7084, "Grammar, Punctuation, and Capitalization. "A Handbook for Technical Writers and Editors" was compiled and written by the NASA Langley Research Center in Hampton, Virginia. At Chapter 4, "Capitalization," they state in 4.1 "Introduction:"
"First we should define terms used when discussing capitalization:
All caps means that every letter in an expression is capital, LIKE THIS.
Caps & 1c means that the principal words of an expression are capitalized, Like This.
Caps and small caps refer to a particular font of type containing small capital letters instead of lowercase letters.
Elements in a document such as headings, titles, and captions may be capitalized in either sentence style or headline style:
Sentence style calls for capitalization of the first letter, and proper nouns of course.
Headline style calls for capitalization of all principal words (also called caps & lc).
Modern publishers tend toward a down style of capitalization, that is, toward use of fewer capitals, rather than an up style."
Here we see that in headlines, titles, captions, and in sentences, there is no authorized usage of all caps. At 4.4.1. "Capitalization With Acronyms," we find the first authoritative use for all caps:
"Acronyms are always formed with capital letters.'
"Acronyms are often coined for a particular program or study and therefore require definition.'
"The letters of the acronym are not capitalized in the definition unless the acronym stands for a proper name:'
"Wrong - The best electronic publishing systems combine What You See Is What

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You Get (WYSIWYG) features...'
"Correct - The best electronic publishing systems combine what you see is what you get (WYSIWYG) features...'
"But Langley is involved with the National Aero-Space Plane (NASP) Program."
This cites, by example, that using all caps is allowable in an acronym. "Acronyms" are words formed from the initial letters of successive parts of a term. They never contain periods and are often not standard, so that definition is required..
The most significant section appears at 4.5, "Administrative Names":
"Official designations of political divisions and of other organized bodies are capitalized:
Names of political divisions;
Canada, New York State;
United States Northwest Territories;
Virgin Islands, Ontario Province;
Names of governmental units, US Government Executive Department, US Congress, US Army;
US Navy."
According to this official US Government publication, the States are never to be spelled in all caps such as "NEW YORK STATE." The proper English grammar - and legal - style is "New York State." This agrees, once again, with Texas Law.
The authors of "The Real Life Dictionary of the Law," Gerald and Kathleen Hill, are accomplished scholars and writers. Gerald Hill is an experienced attorney, judge, and law instructor. Here is how the term legal fiction is described:
"Legal fiction."
"n. A presumption of fact assumed by a court for convenience, consistency or to achieve justice.'
"There is an old adage: Fictions arise from the law, and not law from fictions."

24 February at 11:40

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Freeman Delusion

Thanks Fukyiro, great comment and link, I'll repost for those that have blocked you in cognative dissidence of their systematised delusion. I'll repost the other links at the start of the thread too, since it's now reaching 200 comments.

24 February at 11:41

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Earthica-Star Soveran

Eye am not a citizen of any state

24 February at 11:42

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Freeman Delusion

http://www.albertacourts.ab.ca/jdb/2003-/qb/Family/2012/2012abqb0571ed1....

24 February at 11:52

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Alan Clark

Fukyiro Pinion..... State , Nation,Law are all creations by man and as such they are beneath us

24 February at 12:15

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AbsalomofCascadia AmbassadoratLarge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDBiLT3LASk

A Man for All Seasons - The Devil Speech
www.youtube.com
From Robert Bolt's "A Man for All Seasons," this is Sir Thomas More's speech about the primacy of man's laws over God's laws. I feel this is especially relev...

24 February at 12:24

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Alan Clark

now we live by our truth and see how things play out

24 February at 12:31

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AbsalomofCascadia AmbassadoratLarge

Laws is the Devil and all laws are of man...

24 February at 12:36

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Gary Carlyle Cook

anybody got any legal documents that mention whether a unrubuted UCC filing is law??

24 February at 13:03

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Arthur Cristian

Gary, STATUES ARE NOT LAW, never have and never will be. Nothing about statutes, no matter what is done with them, is law, is of law or will be law. Statutes/UCC are not LAW. You are seriously confused mate. You are lost down the yellow brick road. Oh geeeesss, go back to non-sense sleep. Those behind OPPT like Heather are lying about this, while telling you the truth as to what is really going on at the same time but unfortunately your head is swirling with so much non-sense, that you are unwilling and possibly unable to sense the truth amongst all the cleverly placed non-sense. Refer to the post earlier in this thread and read what Tammi had to say back in early 2011. or Listen to Tammi's 2 hour debate with Rob and others from OPPT. This is also embedded in this thread. We are trying to help you SEE but you have to use your SENSES to see mate. Non-Sense will never help you see/sense, thus you remain trapped in the non-sense images of your own making/projections.

24 February at 13:17

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Gary Carlyle Cook

ARTHUR.

please leave me alone. i dont like snitching but you are stalking me man.

24 February at 13:20

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Freeman Delusion

Gary, that is my main point here. Proof of OPPT claim. Without a filing being recognised by the courts as law, and further dismissed as a vexatious and frivolous defence, no response is required.

24 February at 13:23

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Brent Renouf

Bob and others from OPPT? It was only Bob,Chris got cut off. Bob was talked over by Tracey. Has everyone seen Tracey's website? Talk about fictions!!

http://www.sunketempletrust.com/DUL_Eye_of_IsIs_Eagle_Head_Terra_Covenan...

SUNKE Temple Trust | The Eye of IsIs-Eagle Head Terra Covenant Treaty (page 1 of 9)
www.sunketempletrust.com
The Head Bear Clanmother of ‘Tiamat’ Ki-Earths, ‘Earths’, Kaneh Bosm Tribal Nations, Δ 9 Lucifer- Δ 10 mDNA239-IsIs-MJB-092366 IsIs Maryjane Blackshear is the sacred C’anupa-Peace-Pipe Carrier of ‘The Eye of IsIs-Eagle Head Terra Covenant Treaty’ the Universal Sacred Sisterhoods Divine Blood Terra C...

24 February at 13:28

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Arthur Cristian

"Stalking"!!!!!!!!!!! Settle down, Gary. We are going hard on this OPPT thing because many, many people are going to get seriously hurt if it is not stopped. Do not take us personally.

24 February at 13:30

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Arthur Cristian

@ Earthica-Star Soveran who said "Eye am not a citizen of any state" ---- IF ONLY OTHERS LIKE GARY COULD COMPREHEND/SENSE THE TRUE POWER OF MAN/SENSE IN THIS COMMENT. Well said.

24 February at 13:33

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Fukyiro, lol yh every bloody post I made today. And he just rambles!

Arthur, Fukiro said:
"HEY ARTHUR, good on you for getting the OPPT right!"

24 February at 13:34

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Earthica-Star Soveran

wow... Arthur... another Gary accused ME of stalking him earlier, (for sending him too much info on natural healing... laf)

24 February at 13:35

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Arthur, I have nothing again you but your not giving me space to breathe and that very first line.

"STATUES ARE NOT LAW, never have and never will be".

Everybody knows that dude. When people start a paragraph presuming something I just ignore the rest.

24 February at 13:36

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Freeman Delusion

I think it needs reminding to go to the beginning of the thread and re-establish what is presumed, and what has been exposed as mis-information. Besides the occasional slur or offence, I think we are reaching towards a positive resolution to "the validity of OPPT" question raised.

24 February at 13:37

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Freeman Delusion

I think it needs reminding to go to the beginning of the thread and re-establish what is presumed, and what has been exposed as mis-information. Besides the occasional slur or offence, I think we are reaching towards a positive resolution to "the validity of OPPT" question raised.

24 February at 13:37

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Just got this. Regardless of our differences we need to do something.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G4EDsuoUSI

February 23rd 2013 Breaking news Russia threatens USA with Nuclear attack
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February 23rd 2013 Russia threatens USA with Nuclear attack - end times news update 2-23-13 Russia Warning in St Petersburg against interference in third-par...

24 February at 13:48

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Arthur Cristian

So Fuck Your Opinion (Fukyiro Pinion = Fuk yir o Pinion) is getting blocked elsewhere. The "intell" behind this farce has a lengthy His-story/Her-story/Their-story record. Has been routed out many many times by so many people. If it's bullshit it's bullshit. Bullshit doesn't smell sweet no matter how much perfume you spray on it!

How To Rout Out Intelligence Agents
Fukyiro Pinion
A Facebook Debate/Discussion
With Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - Feb 2012
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8260

How To Rout Out Intelligence Agents - A Facebook Debate/Discussion With Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Lo
loveforlife.com.au
I appreciate the time you are taking to try to answer my questions. Please quit assuming I have not tried to absorb and digest what you are presenting. I have read a great deal of your website over the last 2 years. I watched 90%... of the vids you provided links for. There is absolutely no reason a...

24 February at 13:50

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Robyn Christine

She's a biggy Gypsy Rob... lol.... I am promoting it, OPPT, cause it generates an awareness in the plight... whether it true or not... Some people think to fight it with *their* own weapon, the law, some people choose to fight it with no acknowledgment... all is valid...

24 February at 13:54

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Arthur Cristian

Gary as you appear so lazy........ here they are again.... see if you can extract the jewels that are sparkling so bright.

They are their rules/definitions - they change them any time they want. Statutes keep coming and coming and coming at us. It's as if every moment of our lives no matter what, even when sleeping or resting under a tree, we are breaking "statutes".

As Tami Pepperman shared with us back in early 2011.......

Criminal Coercion is a funny animal. Basically to be criminally coerced, one has to be threatened with charges for a crime they have not committed, or to be held in a contemptuous state for a crime that has not been committed, or does not exist, which is called compulsion (to be compelled)

A Statute, is a statement of compulsion, whereby entire sects of human beings, are compelled, whilst being maintained in a state of contempt, for crimes never having been committed, one such example is a DUI << no crime has been committed, HOWEVER you are being held in contempt, or being compelled by compulsory statute (extortion) to do some thing you normally would not have done, thereby at times, you are also being held hostage, and or federally kidnapped by action of fraud (held against your will) by court, or other legal process.

I ask this officer to find me the emotion that was damaged or injured when Mr. Koenig spoke his truth to various individuals, whereby he is maintaining Criminal Coercion (one of the main components, is that it has to have a victim, which is where Intent stems from...one can only commit a crime if one intends to harm (requiring a victim, requiring not an emotion, or a feeling, but a real live human victim) and Conspiring with other Actors to hold Mr. Koenig hostage, by Court Process within the Action of Racketeering, whereby various entities are deriving illegal compensation, whilst simulating legal process, making threats, and Criminally Coercing Richard Koenig. Combined, this Constitutes not only Obstruction of Justice, and Criminal Contempt of Court (impeding the ability of the court to function) but because this officer is not adhering to his job (LAW enforcement) but is actually maintaining as a Criminal whilst in such Action of Enforcing Criminal Coercion.

"I don't have to answer your question you slut, you have to answer mine."
"You lieing attorney, you out to be in a hole, you fucking bastard."
"You goddamn slut."
"go fornicate with yourself."
"Listen you fucking bitch you are going to listen to me."

Now then, non-withstanding your opinions on the Oregon Motor Vehicle Code, when you speak to people this way, they do not have to respond back to you. If you call someone, and speak in this manner, it is considered non-communicative. Let me put it in real simple terms:

A jury of your peers (or judge) is instructed to listen to your phone calls. They are told that you have been verbally abusive in the past. You have been told not to call back due to your verbally abusive past. They then listen to audio recordings of you identifying yourself, followed by the above statements. This is why you have been found guilty of telephonic harassment THREE times Richard.

This officer also misquotes, and maintains that motor vehicle statutes, derived from code, are Laws, however, once again, I will reiterate, these are statutes, or statements of compulsion, and have no thing to do with a law.

http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors

TITLE 16

CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS

Chapter 161. General Provisions

162. Offenses Against the State and Public Justice

163. Offenses Against Persons

164. Offenses Against Property

165. Offenses Involving Fraud or Deception

166. Offenses Against Public Order; Firearms and Other Weapons; Racketeering

Oregon Revised Statutes on Debra Bentley's timeline.
Oregon Revised Statutes
www.leg.state.or.us

24 February at 13:54

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Arthur Cristian

Expert in law, Tammi Pepperman obliterates the credibility of the OPPT. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/criticalmassradioonline/2013/02/22/leaving-... - This interview occurred yesterday. Be patient, from the law side of things, Tammi Pepperman completely exposes the stupidity behind all those at the top of the OPPT who don't know what they are really talking about. We suggest you download this mp3 file, it's about 2 hours long but Tammi is the best of the best when it comes to law. We've known her for a few years now. Listen and learn. There is lots of on and off silence for the first 5 minutes or so (possibly up to 10 minutes) but finally this internet debate kicks off. Enjoy........

Leaving the Pfarm
www.blogtalkradio.com
Tonight on Leaving the Pfarm, CURRENT EVENTS, and how history repeats its self. We will recap what it means to be a “citizen” of the United States Incorporated, how a citizen owes its allegiance to a governing authority, and is subject* of the laws and duties imposed upon “it”. The war on terror, an...

24 February at 13:55

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Arthur,

Its early days. Everybody wants to be the top guru. Thats normal. But thanks. And have a nice...... week.

24 February at 13:56

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Arthur Cristian

Crikey Gary, Freedom is a team effort mate so is peace, truth, love, joy, abundance, etc....... Life is a gift. All with passion for the above do whatever they can to repair the breaches to this team effort so that we don't get trapped again by another cleverly crafted "system", sneaking through the breaches to enslave our lives within.

24 February at 14:07

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Arthur, I am sure we will work together soon. Things will work out.

24 February at 14:08

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Are they not corporate policies?

24 February at 14:16

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Arthur Cristian

Through legislation in parliament/govern(men), a bill is created and if passed becomes an act which is a statute. They may say a bill is enacted into law does not mean that it is law. Such comments are tricks. The parliament/govern(men)t is a private corporation conducting business...... a BILL, (can I have the bill waiter). Business/bills are commercial enterprises so everything they do is commerce and therefore are statutes. Statutes are all related to commerce while matters of first party to first party harm are not, even though injured parties may seek a commercial remedy to cure the injuries caused. This is where it gets really tricky and messy if you do not know how to navigate through this bullshit. A court case can switch from law to statute and if you are not on the ball you will get caught because the court had changed from whatever to whatever. They tell you this but it goes over the head of everyone lost to non-sense. So yes a "bill" is in the "act" of a corporate policy = statute.

24 February at 14:32

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Jane Evershed

geez this is some thread!

24 February at 14:34

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Arthur Cristian

When you file the "name" with the UCC you are signing your real life over as surety. Is that what you want to do, because that is what the OPPT doc is telling you to do?

24 February at 14:39

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Arthur Cristian

This is why most people get nowhere with the UCC and if they do some arrive into jail while others are commercially exhausted.

24 February at 14:46

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Arthur Cristian

You SEE, as you are now the surety they can now use this insurance policy to cover damages or costs incurred by other matters elsewhere not related to those who ended up in jail or were commercially exhausted by them. Do you comprehend this. This is human trafficking. All those who offered up their real lives as surety are now part of the see/sea of commerce that is the curse being processed by those bound to that surety. Birth certificates is an example of this Talmudic deception. They are bonds of surety.

24 February at 14:54

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Jane Evershed

Does it matter if the OPPT, UCC filings are “legal” or not?

By ~ Angie Schuyler

“No power on earth can stop an idea whose time has come.”
~Rajiv Gandhi

If nothing else, the One People’s Public Trust, UCC filings, have served as a wake-up call to all of humanity. It has made us publicly aware of the corruption of our political and monetary systems. It has informed us, in no uncertain terms, that we’ve been duped. We’ve been forced to come to the stark realization that all the systems we have allowed to be built up around us, as alleged systems of support (for, of and by the people) are in reality, for-profit corporations that are draining the earth of her resources and stealing all of humanity blind.

They have no true authority over us!

Now that we know this, how can we ignore it and allow it to continue?

The way I see it, we need to face the fact that there are no real governments, no real courts, no real judges. The Federal Reserve is a for-profit, private corporation, as is the Internal Revenue Service. In reality, there is no legal entity which has any right to say that these filings are legal or illegal.

All the entities, which have been taxing us into oblivion, are privately owned, for profit, corporations that pocket and hoard everything we allow them to take from us. The so called ”legal” system is nothing more than their thug-arm collection system.

Are we going to continue to allow them to pilfer from us, or are we going to stand up and reclaim our power?

The financial sector, which is completely intertwined with the government and legal systems, is also a huge issue. Now that we understand that money is an illusion and we have been working ourselves to death, paying interest and payments on a lie, which has literally been created out of thin air, what will we choose to do in response?

Will we continue to succumb to this facade? Are we so apathetic, complacent, lazy and irresponsible as to knowingly sell our future generations into a slavery system, with ever-tightening controls and elevating levels of cruelty and greed?

Regardless of whether the One People’s Public Trust, UCC filings would be considered “legal” will we knowingly submit to the slavery system and continue to allow the corruption and crimes against humanity, to continue?

We do not need our current government, monetary and judicial systems, near as much as they need us. Without us they will falter and fail and we will be free to re-invent ourselves, according to what is the Highest Good of ALL.

It is our own energy which allows them to keep doing us harm. As long as we allow them to take it, we are complicit in our own demise. Is it not time for us to seriously consider withdrawing our energy, from their agendas, and start investing it, instead, into healing ourselves and our world?

The greatest favor the OPPT has done for us is to reveal the truth which has the power to set us free.

Freedom is an idea who’s time has come!

“Not all the armies in the world can stop an idea whose time has come”
~Victor Hugo Marroquin

24 February at 14:54

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Arthur Cristian

Coming together to stop an invasion is what helps those asleep to wake up. The OPPT invaders did not wake us up. Those behind it peddle heaps and heaps of lies. All those who stood up to this OPPT lie are responsible for the waking up of MAN. There is a very big difference here.

24 February at 14:59

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Jane Evershed

Then there are NO laws for me cuz I AM WOman.

24 February at 15:02

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Arthur Cristian

If they decide to use your surety to cover damages incurred elsewhere then they'll come after your "name" and the re-presentation of its claimed commercial assets.

24 February at 15:03

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Edward Parish

"A statute is a formal written enactment of a legislative authority that governs a state, city, or county.[1] Typically, statutes command or prohibit something, or declare policy.[1] The word is often used to distinguish law made by legislative bodies from case law" from wiki

24 February at 15:04

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Jane Evershed

I love OPPT, its been a can opener for humanity's consciousness to be opened right up. its also one of the most gentle and loving movements that I have seen in a long time. Having said that its okay to question EVERYTHING.

24 February at 15:07

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Arthur Cristian

Jane, in the middle of the word belief is the word lie and in the middle of the word lie is "i" and "i" is the greatest lie of all. Best to make no claim over "i" as in I AM, because you are now creating a breach for tricksters to con you into signing up "i" as their surety. I FORMS THE LIE THAT IS BELIEF (surety/bonds/etc/to "The System" - to HELL). Besides causing harm, MAN is not answerable to anyone so why make a claim like I AM WOman?????? The "name" on the birth certificate is "i". The "name" of the UCC docs is "i". The "name" on the OPPT docs is "i". It is best never to make a claim over "i" so that you don't fall into the reflection of Alice that is "i" in Wonderlands (The System") looking glass.

24 February at 15:13

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Edward Parish

Statutes are laws (or acts) enacted by legislatures. These legislative acts become law with or without the approval of the President. Federal statutes may be published in two formats: public and private laws and codified law. Public and private laws are published in the format that is signed by the two chambers of the United States Congress and the President" from: http://www.loc.gov/law/help/statutes.php

Federal Statutes | Law Library of Congress
www.loc.gov
Research guide from the Law Library of Congress on federal statutes

24 February at 15:17

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Arthur Cristian

Jane, OPPT is a con-script("i")on (conscription) for all the "i". This is blatant organised crime of the worst kind. The intention is to gather surety from everyone who can be conned into backing the transition from the old system into the new system which is all about gathering the combined life-FORCE energy of MAN required to create this new system called the New World Order through "i" . You see, you, the "i" are the insurance. In the old days they conscripted an army to cause change through invasion, etc, what makes OPPT any different?

24 February at 15:27

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Arthur Cristian

Now lets go back to our first post in this thread: "The moment you make a "claim" you are under their jurisdiction because you have admitted you are in their world and of their world. Their non-sense dead-world is "The System" of Wonderland. Entering their dead world with "name" is the worse thing you can do. What has just been explained is the reason why EVERYONE is getting trapped. Unless you learn the difference between sense and non-sense you will always remain confused and therefore trapped. By using non-sense such as paper, laws, legalese, statutes, precedents, claiming/arguing over fines, contracts with gas, phones, banks, credit cards, etc, etc, alphabet languages, commerce, seeking commercial remedies, etc, you are admitting to being in and of their world and therefore under-their-jurisdiction. Almost ALL of the freedom-truth movement is a lie of many lies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgEwY38JQWU The best thing to do is put the curse-makers curses back on them which means stop living/being the lie, stop committing fraud, and stop claiming their claims which you do through belief, faith and associated opinion causing you to argue, etc. There is a most simple way out of this mess but it comes with FULL-RESPONSIBILITY. Watch our videos, avoid getting sucked into "personality cults" and learn the difference between SENSE and NON-SENSE.

The Dream Of Life - Part 5D - Images Of Deception
The Intelligence Agents Amongst Us
"We Will Lead Every Revolution Against Us"

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - 44 Minutes 53 Seconds

24 February at 15:31

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Alan Clark

in case you have not noticed , we are under their jurisdiction now.... so what have we got to lose ?

24 February at 15:34

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Edward Parish

yeah the way they are overplaying the significance of this is wrong, trying to make it like a self fulfilling prophecy by hyping it up and chosing not to publish how the courts have viewed attempts in the past, or not divulging that attempts in the past have been made by various others by the same process, to me is underhanded.

24 February at 15:34

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Alan Clark

sense is OPPT and NON-SENSE is the dribble you are spouting

24 February at 15:35

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Arthur Cristian

We have shared more than enough info here now to help those who seek it. We have come to the end of our work in this thread. Those who have eyes will SEE. All the best to everyone reading/involved in this thread. Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life

24 February at 15:40

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Lisa Rene Romo Hill J

ust like the Nasara where is that. Another lie fed to the Sheeple. To be free is to stay away from any Government Documents. We are born free by are birth right so who needs UCC documents but someone who still works in commerce. I am a spirit in a vessel. Jesus had no address, no last name, no documents just a first name. Adam & Eve had just a first name. OPPT is as fraud as Alex Jones, Ventura, Fullford, David Ike. All fear mongers with no solutions should always tell us something & they make a ton of money & live to tell about conspiracy theory's. hmmmm. GN

24 February at 17:26

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Lisa, you are doing exactly that yourself. Fear mongering. And spreading fraudulent stories of a guy that apparently walked on water lol.

24 February at 17:37

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Alan Clark

if any of you have loans and use money then you are not free... give me your solutions, I am all ears... put up or shut up!!

24 February at 17:37

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Freeman Delusion

Wow, it's amazing how this thread has developed, thanks everyone for your input and ongoing interest, every opinion is valid and should be considered. We all know what is right and wrong, and it's not what's legal or illegal, or the result of a filing. The law is written in our hearts.

24 February at 18:55

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Max Igan

well, as I said on this weeks show, it will be interesting to see where all of this goes... the Tammi Pepperman link was interesting, I honestly felt embarrassed for the poor woman, she knows a lot about who filed what and when they did so but she is still very much fixated on legal fiction and is unfortunately running the same roman/vatican/god vs satan program that Arthur Cristian is running... pity...

24 February at 19:06

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Arthur Cristian

This is Fiona writing Max. Sigh...... the law is fiction, Max. The OPPT is fiction. If you want to comprehend what is going on in the fiction of the OPPT that is based on the fiction that is the law, of course you have to listen to someone who is very well versed in that fiction. Why would you be embarrassed for Tammi? She showed way more knowledge than anyone else on the show and all Bob could do was talk about how it had to resonate with you and was for those who it felt right for. LOL. Wonder how a judge would react if you went into court and told him that the parking fine just didn't resonate with you and you were waiting to see if it did further down the track! Get a grip. Interesting how you seemed to miss so many blindingly obvious problems with the OPPT that we and others are pointing out - didn't you say in your first post in this thread https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/168861396594454 that you had gone over it with a fine tooth comb and it seemed like the real deal?

24 February at 19:33

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Freeman Delusion

Yeah, umm, I wanted to say something a few times on the length of Arthurs comments lol bit hard to find the point of topic. But, I don't delete comments, I promote honest and open debate. Thanks all, much love.

24 February at 19:35

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Felix Fletcher

this is actually ridiculous... divide and conquer is the motto...

24 February at 19:43

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Max Igan

yes the law is indeed fiction Fiona, as Ive been saying for years, we made the whole thing up... its as fictional as the concept that people can just go off building kin domains before they address the corrupt government they believe is real, as fictional as the vatican spell and divisionist roman program Arthur is running, and certainly as fictional as the concept that woodland nymphs from the siberian targa come to australia to visit people... and my apologies... but I dont seem to remember using the term "fine tooth comb" in any of my posts... please show me where I made such a remark or stand exposed as someone who just kinda makes up whatever they want... ty in advance for the link Fiona... Be well ... signing off now

24 February at 20:02

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Robyn Christine

Women of the world.... We need to stand up and back our men... return them to their rightful status of manhood... so as they will be able to defeat the global tyrrany that has taken over this world.... THIS IS CRITICAL.... We must recognise the hero in our men, so as they can relclaim their honour... which has been taken away, unwittingly with the help of women, by the global psychopaths....

24 February at 20:18

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Bruno Ferro

@ max- prove your claim that Arthur is running a vatican spell and divisionist roman program? Are you running a similar program? Plus it is Siberian Tiga... are you jealous that a woodland nymph visited Arthur? What is a woodland nymph, lol? Take the rest of the week off:)

24 February at 20:28

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Wanda Vaya Con Dios

It is far too late for many men ... They are beyond it.

When I meet a worthy man. I will treat him like a God.

Until then my discernment will be my hero.

24 February at 20:37

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Max Igan

prove my claim? well bruno, as I previously pointed out, Arthur blames virtually everything on "satanism" which is a roman/vatican program.... no it is Targa not "Tiga" (please read the ringing cedars series for clarification) and no Im not jealous that "a woodland nymph came to visit Arthur" because I do not believe she did, simply because I do not believe that Anastasia would go to the trouble of getting a birth certificate so she could the obtain a passport in order to visit Arthur in Australia... Of course Arthur will tell you that she didnt actually visit him... and that it was a vision he had, but yet my conversation with him was "... but how do we even know she is real?" to which he replied. "I know because Ive MET HER" and when I asked how. He replied" She came to see me" at which point I ceased my correspondence with him... as so many others have done...

24 February at 20:54

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Robyn Christine

I am deadly serious Wanda We. women, need to build them back up.... I think the main initial psyop happened back in the 60's... when *they* unleashed "Eve".... and gave her priority status.... and drunk with her new status, after a long repression.... she took full advantage.... in doing so, she unwittingly dethroned men... I don't recomend going back to the old way.... where women were repressed.... but DO STRONGLY RECOMEND THAT WOMEN GIVE MEN THEIR RIGHTFUL STATUS.... None of this finding a worthy one and then gving, if he is worthy, it will have been because of his mother and a loving, understanding and knowing woman.... No, we have to give back what was taken.... but not to the extent of imbalance.... We have all been taken advantage of, men and women, by the global psycotics.... who are fully aware of the implications of the "battle of the sexes"..... Respect goes both ways.. but someone has to get the ball rolling.... and there is nothing wrong with us doing it..... Men.... they are our heroes.... and we should honour them as such.... Magic will then happen... cause they will then act and reclaim all our humanity.....

24 February at 20:57

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Robyn Christine

... with our love and backing

24 February at 20:59

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Wanda Vaya Con Dios

I hear the conviction & sincerity I do.

I think men can look after themselves & women need to gather & hold the space for healing.

If we are to be sovereign beings & gods and goddesses then we must walk that path & honour ourselves.

24 February at 21:03

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Arthur Cristian

You are right, Max - I have just looked back through the post and you didn't say that you had looked at the OPPT with a fine toothed comb. I thought you had. However, you have made all the comments below, all of which give the impression that you have looked at it very thoroughly. Did you not even get it checked out by a local judge who said it was the real deal?

Fiona Cristian

Link where your comments were found: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/168861396594454

"but suffice to say that the more I look into the oppt the more I see clear remedy that has already been established, the type of remedy that will actually allow people to build kindomains unfettered by commerce.."

" Im still looking into it but at the moment, I cant find a flaw in the logic or in the filing. ... "

"so far, from what I can see, the logic behind what has been done by the OPPT is sound and the unrebutted filing is there so ...."

""Actually Arthur, Ive looked at it and it would appear that it is indeed a remedy "

"Ive even shown it to a local Judge who is a friend of the property owner and he said it is the real deal..."

24 February at 21:04

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Robyn Christine

Whether OPPT is 'legally' doable or not.... does not matter.... I see the point, as it has created much attention... which was needed.... The last time the vatican was contested, was over 500 years ago.... By Martin Luther.... unsuccessfully... but what a luminary!!!! He stood up.....

24 February at 21:10

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Max Igan

Well, the trick Arthur/Fiona, is to listen to what people actually say, rather than your interpretation of what they "may have meant" based on words they didnt utter that you chose to put into their mouths.... You should try it, it works wonders...

25 February at 05:56

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Leon Mac Giolla Phoil

Forget about Arthur. He is obviously a sap.
Let's get back to brass tacks.
OPPT
Real and viable
Or false and dangerous
It's as simple as that, no rhetorical Bullshit, no childish tit for tat about fairy's and crap.

25 February at 06:06

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Gary Carlyle Cook

OPPT-IN is a movement more than it is a technical FREEMAN thing. It is a work in progress. Simple as that. I would not stop paying taxes etc quite yet though.

Challenge the "system" in various ways but not if you are risking prison. Best advice I can give, personally. Things are changing. OPPT-IN or not!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8-0csnlQqk

Max Igan - The One People's Public Trust - A Roundtable Discussion [02/15/2013]
www.youtube.com
Surviving The Matrix with Max Igan on American Voice Radio recorded on February 15, 2013 http://peoplestrust1776.org/ http://oppt-in.com/ Max Igan's website - ...

25 February at 06:23

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Alan Clark

start small , local council level first..

25 February at 06:25

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Leon Mac Giolla Phoil

Thanks Gary, that's the kind of response we need. As I see it, no one is obliged in any way to do anything with this. So where is the harm in positively following it? If not fails, it fails. No harm done. No fairies harmed

25 February at 06:27

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Well, at the same time I can understand some of the concerns. Like some people will think they can stop paying taxes/fines and go to prison. Or that the "system" will declare it terrorism. But at the end of the day its time for everybody to be adults and team together to make this work no matter what.

Its not if the elitists will try and nullify it. Its what we are going to do about it because they definitely will!

25 February at 06:30

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Alan, That was great advice.

25 February at 06:32

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Freeman Delusion

Once I discover an organisation has displayed intentional deception and fraud in their agenda, a conspiracy to increase fiat currency a hundredfold to present levels, the blatently malicious intent to deceive people into believing they are not subject to any law or government, and despite exposing them to immeasurable heartbreak, harm, the associated penalties and even loss of children, I feel it would be totally irresponsible of me, and somewhat phycopathic to promote such an organisation.

25 February at 07:39

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Gary Carlyle Cook

We are not subject to any government.

25 February at 07:42

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Except by unlawful force.

25 February at 07:42

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Freeman Delusion

If you are a citizen you are a subject. You can jump up and down about whats right and wrong but it is useless without a court of competent jurisdiction to hear such things, of which none exists. You ARE subject to the law, regardless of how intolerable it is, until it is declared invalid or altered by legislature.

25 February at 07:56

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Arthur Cristian

Max, Fiona here. We guess we could say how come you are not giving a response to our last post, i.e. telling us all why you made those comments saying that the OPPT was the real deal etc. when you seem to have missed some HUGE flaws, but then we remember that you say you don't read our posts so of course you won't answer any of our questions. As for going on about whether Anastasia visited Arthur or not, we answered that one way back at the beginning of the other thread: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/168861396594454 but, of course, you didn't read it. We feel that it is a compliment to us and our work that you avoid the questions we ask and just go on and on about the Anastasia thing which happened years ago and has very little, if indeed anything to do with our work. So what if you don't believe it Max, or it "doesn't feel right"? So what if you keep bringing it up in an attempt to discredit Arthur? We have nothing to hide Max. With us, everything is out in the open, warts and all, imperfections and all, stuff ups and all. We are not ashamed of what we write and say. Is all this just the attack on the MAN Arthur that it seems to be? Why did you remove the FB friendship and then follow us over here to attack us some more? Are you just clutching at straws? Many people are waking up to the spells of "The System" and are no longer conned by the "it just feels right" BS. As for the Vatican/Satan stuff, we answered this also but you probably didn't read it. How convenient. Your refusal to answer questions means that it is impossible to have a debate about the document with you.... but of course, we don't meet the Max Igan conditions for a debate - our post are too long, Max thinks Arthur is a liar so he doesn't want to talk to him, etc. The difference between us and you, Max, is that our door is always open and we will always read/listen to what you say. Seems that you have your door almost closed, just enough for you to send out your barbs but not enought to let us in. MAX, WHO IS YOUR MASTER?

25 February at 08:16

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Gary Carlyle Cook

I am not a citizen Rob. Thats is my point bro.

25 February at 08:34

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Arthur/Fiona. Stop this please. Max deserves love. Like we all do.

25 February at 08:35

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Rocko Van Zetti

hence "subject" matter jurisdiction

25 February at 08:38

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Freeman Delusion

So you are stateless then Gary?

25 February at 08:39

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Rocko Van Zetti

dissenting = rendering SMJ invalid

25 February at 08:40

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Yes. According to my own laws. I dont know about anybody elses.

25 February at 08:41

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Freeman Delusion

So you have renounced your citizenship?

25 February at 08:43

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Not in the sense you mean. No.

25 February at 08:50

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Freeman Delusion

Then you are a citizen Gary. You are subject to laws made for the governance of your nation. I can also pretend I'm Peter Pan from Neverland, but the facts say different.

25 February at 09:01

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Uwe Uehle

I think we can expect Max to throw in a few cents soon into the debate: http://maxkeiser.com/2013/02/24/uuc-filings-causing-global-ripples/

UUC Filings Causing Global Ripples - Max Keiser
maxkeiser.com
The members of a group calling themselves The One People’s Public Trust (OPPT) have been in the news lately, because of recent UCC filings, with regards to the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC). The UCC is not a U.S. law, rather a uniform code of conduct for Intra-State and Global commerce, drafted and…

25 February at 09:11

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Gary Carlyle Cook

There is no facts Rob. With all due respect. How can I be a part of a CITIZEN-SHIP. I am what I am. I human vehicle with a soul in it.

25 February at 10:20

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Freeman Delusion

You are registered stock, under contract with benefits and privilages and obligations to that nation. While unrenounced it remains lawfully valid.

25 February at 10:28

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Jane Evershed

That is the fraud Gypsy.

25 February at 10:33

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Freeman Delusion

Enough fairytales Gary. Fact is fact. Interpol will quickly identify me as an Australian citizen, and you the same.

25 February at 10:35

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Freeman Delusion

You would of heard how stateless people are treated in this country. Indefinate detention in a Serco centre.

25 February at 10:39

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Gary Carlyle Cook

They plan to kill us out of Serco. Maybe Serco is the safer option.

25 February at 10:43

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Freeman Delusion

OK, let's start a nation.
After we all agree on certain principles and matters for good governance, are these established rules applicable to others who want to join our nation, and their children? YES, of course they are. In fact, if these others breached these rules, then we the people are an injured party, and our government has a moral obligation to prosecute them.

25 February at 10:51

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Gary Carlyle Cook

When did I join any nation? I didnt agree on any principles. With all due respect I could secretly be from another galaxy. We were all sold by the only kings that even had a slight claim to that anyway. My country (England) has been sold to the Vatican like 7 times.

25 February at 10:54

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Freeman Delusion

I think you are delusional. Go test your theories Gary. Go to Bali and walk down the street telling all how free you are because of some ficticious foreclosure, waving a branch of juicy canabis buds to prove it. Watch how quick you scream citizen and demand your embassy provide you support. Lol, I think you should get out a bit more, test your assumptions.

25 February at 11:01

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Rob. It is work in progress. Nobody is claiming that would work. At least yet.

25 February at 11:08

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Freeman Delusion Yeah bullshit they aren't Gary. These fools are sprouting so many false and ridiculous claims of 'foreclosure' and 'game over
25 February at 11:13 · Like

Gary Carlyle Cook

Exactly. Things we have been doing up to now have not been working great for humanity.

25 February at 11:13

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Gary Carlyle Cook

That part I am not sure of myself but like I said and they have said. It is work in progress. Lets see if it works. I hope it does.

25 February at 11:16

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Freeman Delusion

"These governments have been disolved, they just don't know it yet" lol but they can still fuck you in 147 different positions lol DELUSION ALERT umm, enough with the fairytales... EVIDENCE PLEASE.

25 February at 11:20

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Gary Carlyle Cook

I dont know enough about UCC law to verify that but I am for that motion.

Have a nice life.

25 February at 11:22

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Arthur Cristian

We couldn't agree more, Gypsy Rob. Let's get our heads out of the fantasy that a few bits of paper and declaring our freedom is enough to get "The System" off our backs.

25 February at 11:29

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Freeman Delusion

Well for fucks sake, test the depth of the waterhole and let us know the measurement before you tell everybody the water is the answer to all their dreams and encourage them to dive in headfirst. I wouldn't even say it's a viable belief system. Just look at their long list of completely unverifiable, delusional claims, including their galactic federation of light affiliation.

25 February at 11:34

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Freeman Delusion

EVIDENCE PLEASE. NOT SYSTEMATIZED DELUSIONS AND FAIRYTALES.

25 February at 11:36

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Freeman Delusion

http://mikiverselaw.blogspot.com.au/2013/02/a-brief-safety-check-before-...

MIKIVERSE LAW: A BRIEF SAFETY CHECK BEFORE YOU “JUMP OFF THE CLIFF” USING PROMISED REMEDY
mikiverselaw.blogspot.com

25 February at 12:16

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Dylan Chiang

I have serious issues with this oppt and here it is

1) Lack of info with any substance.

2) Electronic funding and 1 bank is the ultimate dream of the current system and this is offering just that.

4) Money is the problem with the current system any monetary system would be open to corruption and in time will cause segregation and slavery again maybe in decades/centuries to come, so we’re just looking out for ourselves n not the future.

5) Basic economics of this theory don’t add up, if we all have 10 billion, then prices will shoot up. If I have 10b I’m not going to go to all the effort of getting u a coffee in a coffee shop for £3 its not worth my time or effort when I have so much and ur offering such a tiny weenie drop in my 10b ocean. in other words whos gonna show up to work and provide these services that our 10 billion is supposed to buy?

6) when everyone goes on a huge spending spree which they would, wheres all this money going to end up? back at large corporations, asia and into the hands we freed it from -- weve already strip mined the planet with the money system so the solution is to throw more money around getting everybody to spend their way to freedom at the planets cost?

7) Where’s the centralised money for creating more sustainable city’s and working premises, to deal with unseen disasters, set up new education plans as the current ones will be useless, medical centers and research.

We dont need 10b each and it would not solve the humanity issue we have people would still be caught in a system of consumerism and it upholds what has caused our down fall greed and desire. I would rather live in a world free of this crap, without money it would take a few days/weeks to adjust but we would we’d still work do the things we loved and work to better humanity n not self indulgence. I fail to see how this system offers any more freedom its still ties us to the money and sooner or later we’ll be forced to work any old job to maintain our cashless card, the money would run out and future generations would be trapped like us, except they will be slaves to system where u don’t even get money they get a card or a chip stating their worth that could easily be cut off it they don’t comply to new rules/governments.

That is if its even likely that those in power are going to hold their hands up n say oh yes we’ve been very bad boys enslaving you all, here you go heres your money back, coz these kind will do everything and anything to hold on to what they have and if it had ever been a concern to them the trustees would have been shot after first notice was sent.

like many I want this to be true I’ve tuned in and read countless articles/interviews and failed to find any concise details on this, plans, actions to take, acknowledgement from anyone other then OPPT themsleves, interviews are vague and skirt around questions asked.

25 February at 12:41

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Jane Evershed

The paradigm is service to others, the "money" is resources going to the people for peoples projects instead of the bank holding all precious metals etc away from the people in order to control them. Earth's resources are returned to the people. have you seen the state of the world lately? This warring destructive meme can no longer continue. There are too few in charge to deal with the awakening masses.

25 February at 12:52

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Alan Clark

law is a fiction... it was made up... we do not stand under there law.. we are not citizens.... this is all fraud and deception.... we stand above government, they are our servants within their government capacity , not our masters... but yet they enforce on us!!! you would have to be retarded not to see what is and has happened re government and law

25 February at 15:13

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Agreed with Alan.

25 February at 15:15

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Alan Clark

http://www.facebook.com/ann.bressington.7/posts/473481489373238

25 February at 15:31

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Freeman Delusion

Ann Bressington

Saturday at 14:06

"TO ALL AND SUNDRY:
Last night "in jest" I said I was preparing my resignation from parliament. Lisa harrison has taken that post on a closed page and has published it as a press release WITHOUT MY CONSENT and has made a public statement using a joke to instigate my resignation. This could do both the person I made the comment to and myself harm, I am respectfully requesting that Lisa M Harrison of OPPT group remove these posts immediately and that she apologises for posting the article as a "Press Release" without verifying the intent of the comment or without asking my express permission to publish such an article using my position and identity."

25 February at 17:38

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Alan Clark

Ann made the post that I reposted above a couple of hours ago

25 February at 17:40

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Freeman Delusion

Yeah, that's not for her though, it's for Jennifer Holt... http://www.parramattasun.com.au/story/248462/meeting-over-land-battle/

Meeting over land battle
www.parramattasun.com.au
PARRAMATTA Council plans to sell land Maori and Aboriginal leaders claim belongs to them.

25 February at 17:56

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Alan Clark

this entire thread is a waste of time and energy..... good luck to all

25 February at 17:59

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Freeman Delusion

Entertaining, to say the least. My own question has gone completely unanswered too..
PROOF OF CLAIMS
ANY COURT OR STATE EVIDENCE

I didn't think so.

25 February at 18:08

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Arthur Cristian

Welcome to Wonderland Gary. What do you expect when most are trapped in the looking glass?

25 February at 18:31

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Arthur Cristian

We're bringing out a video on the OPPT and others.

25 February at 18:32

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Steven Spiers

Arthur and Fiona, all is good and well until someone comes onto your property and forces you off at the point of a gun or just kills your stupid ass.

Fight your government any way you can, who cares about the OPPT they cant take my lifeforce, ITS A COMMERCIAL LAW JURISDICTION. Once you recognise this fact, and also recognise that a living breathing man cannot be held accountable under this jurisidction you see all you waffle on about goes away.

Yes you have a corporate self, but you also are YOU, a living, breathing soul. What is stopping you from using your corporate self to attack them in their own jurisidiction knowing you can step back into Common Law and not have to deal with UCC.

Commercial Transactions stay in Commerce not in the Common. Learn to play their game, and let us get on with FIGHTING THE FUCKING GOVERNMENT instead of copping out, running to the hills and growing vegetables. Some of us like computers internets and space ships.

You mix two different evils together, the church and the government corproate structure. The UCC is NOT BAD, nor is Commercial Law, we just shouldnt be living in Commercial Law. And with regards to a church system, that is something that can be tackled ONCE WE HAVE OUR COUNTRY BACK.

25 February at 18:39

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Arthur Cristian

Well said Dylan.

25 February at 18:44

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Arthur Cristian

Steven, with your current views on life "WE DON"T SEE WHERE HARM/CHAOS ENDS AND PARADISE BEGINS.

25 February at 19:24

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Steven Spiers

paradise begins when there is no fucking oppression mate. until that time we have a fight on our hands.

like i said, if you want to be all la di da in the hills, thats up to you, i like computers, internets and spaceships. but dont go pushing your views on everyone else thinking your right when you have two things mixed.

1. government and church state
2. commercial law/ucc and your ability to step away from it

Do you understand Kings Law, Common Law, Magna Carta, Bill of Rights. Or are you stuck in corporate world.

Do you even realise what removing a corproate government will do, and the fact we have armies, navies and air forces, and the fact that 200 million indonesions would love to invade this place, not to mention boat people in war torn countries.

No, lets all run around and be hippies. There is much more at stake here than your stupid NON sense.

Thats because half the time you make NO sense.

25 February at 19:29

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Lisa M Harrison

Hello Arthur, I look forward to your video. I assume you will bring to light the necessary Rebuttal of these filings via a duly verified rebuttal of the DECLARATION OF FACTS UCC # 2012127914, point by point, with specificity and particularity, by duly sworn declaration, with your full responsibility and liability, under penalty of perjury under governing law, or any law so long as it is identified, signed by
your wet ink signature, as this is the only way to negate the action of the One Peoples Public Trust.

25 February at 20:48

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Waza Gillbanks

The final report from the OPPT investigation. Please take note of the signature again & likewise see page 2 where you will find the following quote http://www.scribd.com/doc/118067922/PARADIGM-DOCUMENT-FROM-THE-TREASURY-... Quote page 2, from the final report from the OPPT investigation.
" 4. THE ONLY SOLUTION TO THE THREATS, AND TO MIGRATE LIABILITIES GLOBALLY IS TO CHANGE THE UNITED STATES BANKING SYSTEM TO THE TRIED & TRUE PUBLIC MONEY . FOR PRIVATE USE BANKING SYSTEM. USING STATE CENTRAL BANKS AND NATIONAL CENTRAL BANKING " end quote

PARADIGM DOCUMENT FROM: THE TREASURY FINANCE AG, INDUSTRIESTRASSE 21, CH-6055ALPNACH DORF, SWITZERL
www.scribd.com
An outline of the corruption of the worldwide banking system, the investigation into the corruption, the foreclosure on the banking system by the collateral holders, and the freeing of humanity from the debt-slave system of private banking.

25 February at 20:48

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Waza Gillbanks

It is quite clear OPPT don't comprehend what banking & central banking implies, banks came into existence to impose a currency that would overshadow the intrinsic characteristic of any preexisting form of money, allowing bankers, 'money changers', public or private to intervene on our industry & commerce, seizing for itself all the money ever created into circulation. The practise of banking will be an act of TREASON in a MPE, it will be law enacted by the people by united peoples mandate

Both public & private banks give up no consideration of their own commensurable to any debt, so a public central bank will still launder the principal & interest into their possession via all the local banks. A government Just creating money interest free or otherwise via a public central bank, spending or allegedly loaning unaccountable sums of money into circulation has to also likewise retire unaccountable sums of money out of circulation by taxation to prevent circulatory inflation which will in effect be imposing volumetric improprieties or unaccountable out of control inflation & deflation regardless , so not only we will see unjust but unaccountable taxation imposed on any individual who may not necessarily benefit from what is spent or built, to perpetually re-inflate circulation on what is spent on infrastructure , WAR etc, it may not otherwise necessarily be needed ,giving us, then, a gargantuan government out of control spending & taxing money like there is no tomorrow, possibly giving sweet heart deals to corporations or the OPPT equivalent just to build unnecessary infrastructure so all the local banks can continue stealing & laundering circulation ( principal & interest ) on the ground floor..Local banks who are likewise giving up no consideration of their own , falsifying a debt to themselves in any alleged loan to one of us, just like we have today , which equates to a * MONUMENTAL THEFT * & * ONE BIG MONEY LAUNDERING RACKET * nothing more.

25 February at 20:49

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Waza Gillbanks

MPE for dummies http://australia4mpe.wordpress.com/category/mpe-for-dummies/

Posts about MPE for dummies on Australia for Mathematically Perfected Economy™
australia4mpe.wordpress.com
Posts about MPE for dummies written by australia4mpe

25 February at 20:51

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Steven Spiers

Arthur, you do realise because we are the United Kingdom of Australia with our own King James II, and a Constitution, the UCC does not affect us in the ways you presume.

Stop spouting your shit, and start getting your facts together.

You want to scare everybody away from it you are just as bad as Alex Jones or David Icke spreading disinformation. And after reading your web site, and watching many of your videos, you either dont know the full facts, or you are purposely spreading disinformation.

Please stop it.

25 February at 20:52
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Gary Carlyle Cook

I agree. Arthur just wants to be perceived as some guru.

25 February at 20:54

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Everybody wants to be a cowboy these days.

25 February at 20:58

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Arthur Cristian

Steven, please bring forward the first parties United Kingdom of Australia, King James II, and Constitution to back your claims. Where do they live so we can visit them and have a chat? Please don't tell us they can't come forward, whereabouts are not known and need a MAN to re-present (perform/act for) them. Also, which UCC comment claimed by us are you referring to? Can you copy paste it here or provide the link's.

25 February at 22:02

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Arthur. Serious. What on Earth are you going on about. Not really that I want to know.

25 February at 22:04

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Steven Spiers

Your an idiot, proclamation, signatory by the queen has already taken place. the next step is to open the old parliament.

So like i said, get your facts straight.

You cant even disseminate between the church/vatican and the black pope and the order of the house of jesuits, AND the Old World Order or 13 families. You act like they are one. THEY ARE NOT.

You also think you know all about the UCC, when you cant even get a grip on the fact we have a Constitution.

25 February at 22:06

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Arthur Cristian

Where there is no life it is fraud to pretend there is.

25 February at 22:11

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Steven Spiers

is that more of your NON sense. seriously dude.

25 February at 22:12

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Conscious Entity

you all need to relax , we are all on the same side here , at the end of the day the only real way out of this system is to claim your sovereignty , nothing else is going to work , how you claim that sovereignty is up to you , trail and error

25 February at 22:13

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Conscious Entity

Arther has his way , i have mine , some people think OPPT is the way , some people thing self claimed is the way , some think OSTF is the way , in the end when one fails another will gain strength.

25 February at 22:13

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Nobody had tried to debunked Arthurs way. Arthur just wants to be perceived as some guru. From what I can tell.

25 February at 22:16

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Steven Spiers

you want to go back to creator.

do you want indonesia to invade while your off with the fairies.

shall i go up through this thread and point you to comments about Tammy who got the shit shot out of her in another radio show.

shall i go through our constitution, and explain the stone of scone, and the stone of scone in melbourne.

shall i go through queens changes to acts in Australia in 1953.

shall i explain the way we were corporatised by Gough Whitlam in 1975.

No ill go on about NON sense, and stupid crap that everybody will get to AFTER WE TAKE DOWN THE CORPORATION.

STOP SPREADING DISINFORMATION.

25 February at 22:16

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Arthur Cristian

Apologies for disturbing your sleep Steven. Let us know when you wake up.

25 February at 22:17

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Steven Spiers

awww gawd, yes guru. you can be all perfect, until someone takes that away from you. Thats humanity, we like to destroy stuff. How are you going to protect yourself from that. You already admit to being oppressed. How did you defend yourself. Oh thats right you relied on your NON sense and your Pride.

Pride doesnt beat a guy with a gun in his hands.

25 February at 22:20

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Steven Spiers

Arthur shouldnt be shoving HIS WAY down every bodies throats when Arthur DOES NOT have all the facts. He might have some good info, but he is also wrong in a lot of his info. He doesnt know all the facts, end of story. Why should i put up with him shoving his disinformation down other peoples throats, it only makes things worse for everybody.

25 February at 22:24

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Arthur Cristian

Invasion Of Australia And New Zealand?
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 30th November 2009
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7040

Needs to be updated Apparently the ships are still there and the flotilla is growing.

Invasion Of Australia And New Zealand? by Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 30th November 20
loveforlife.com.au
Could the hundreds of ships moored off Singapore supposedly because of the economic recession really be there for more sinister reasons? With the Establishment*** controlling the economy and the media, it has been easy for them to engineer the economic problems that provide the excuse for mooring th...

25 February at 22:37

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Arthur Cristian

One Child Policy = One Million Strong Chinese Army
Orchestrated By The Satanists For Their End-Times Pantomime:
By Arthur Cristian
Love For Life - 25th March 2010
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7274

"An extensive survey was done by one of their top generals a few years ago. He stated that roughly 87% (could be 83% can't remember) of his armed forces would have no issue or hesitation killing women and children in another country if China invaded and occupied it."

One Child Policy = One Million Strong Chinese Army Orchestrated By The Satanists For Their End-Times
loveforlife.com.au
So you realise what we are up against, the Satanists (the powers that be/the establishment bloodline families going back to their founding father in Ancient Egypt roughly 10,000 years ago - those who control all freemasonic lodges, orders, sects, fraternities, etc) orchestrated the 1 child policy in...

25 February at 22:38

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Arthur Cristian

4. To Find A Menu For The Extensive Research Library (over 8,000 items posted embodying over 11,000 documents, pdf's, videos, podcasts, etc) Which Covers Topics From Health to Chemtrails/Haarp to Brain Control to Archaeology to Astronomy Geocentricity Heliocentricity to Pandemics Bird Flu Swine Flu to Fluoride to Cancer to Free Energy to Global Warming, 9/11, Bali Bombings, Aspartame, MSG, Vaccinations, Aids/HIV, Mercury, New World Order, Satanism, Religions, Cults, Sects, Symbolism, etc, etc, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/82

Extensive Research Library On Numerous Subjects - Other Serious Issues - Links | Love for Life
loveforlife.com.au
The Extensive Research Library containing over 9000 postings was started December 2006 and continues as a documentation of all the areas of harm doing towards men, women and children on the part of the Establishment, including Chemtrails, Fluoride, Aspartame, MSG, etc,. It also contains a lot of inf...

25 February at 22:41

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Arthur Cristian

8. If You Are Interested In Information On Freedom From Statutes, Rule-Of-Law, Free Man/Free Woman, Strawman, "Person" and Admiralty Law (The Law Of Commerce), go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/895 - For Common Law, Democracy, Constitution, Trial By Jury, Fee Simple, etc, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/category/main/law-articles-documents

Free Man - Freedom From Statutes - Rules Of Law - Private Corporations - Fiction - Sovereignty - Adm
loveforlife.com.au
Freedom From Statutes - Rules Of Law - Private Corporations - Fiction Fiction - Sovereignty - Admiralty Law - Honour-Dishonour - Commercial Redemption - Accepted For Value

25 February at 22:43

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Steven Spiers

what, by empty container ships that lie in the ocean due to the financial issues with shipping goods around the world. In 2009. Which probably only got worse.

Id be more worried about an army in Indonesia that is bigger than our population mate.

Again, you try and tie something innocent to something sinister. Kudos for more disinformation.

25 February at 22:43

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Arthur Cristian

9. If You Are Interested In Banking and Money Created (Fiat/Credit/Debt/Mortgage/Loan/Overdraft etc) Out-Of-Thin-Air, How Banks Counterfeit Money,
go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/banks

25 February at 22:43

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Steven Spiers

guru just has to spam out the last words, getting frustrated there Arthur.

25 February at 22:45

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Arthur Cristian

British Empire (Freemasonic/Satanic World) controls China Steven. Took them almost 300 years but the final East-India opium wars broke China's back in the 1800's. They've been in control ever since.

25 February at 22:46

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Steven Spiers

Your preaching to the choir, hence the honour in saying to you, stop with the disinformation. I dont doubt you know a good amount, and has first hand experience. But dont spout continuously shoving across your point of view. Stick to the facts, your web site drones on about so much crap. Stick to the facts.

25 February at 22:51

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Jane Evershed

http://itccs.org/2013/02/25/guilty
To enforce its sentence, the Court has empowered citizens in Canada, the United States, England, Italy and a dozen other nations to act as its legal agents armed with warrants, and peacefully occupy and seize properties of the Roman Catholic, Anglican and United Church of Canada, which are the main agents in the deaths of these children.

itccs.org | Towards a Genuine Legal Attack on Genocidal and Criminal Institutions: A Statement regar
itccs.org
The Council of Elders of the International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State (ITCCS) has unanimously decided to withdraw from the alleged lawsuit in the Federal Court of Canada (FCC) brought by Jason Bowman on behalf of our Tribunal and our representative, Rev. Kevin Annett – Eagle Strong Voi...

25 February at 23:02

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Arthur Cristian

Steven, just showing you the extent of work we've been involved with so you might reconsider the depth of knowledge we know about. We were purchasing many hundreds of books from the mobile Heritage book shop part of the Australian League Of Rights for some years during the early-mid 1990's, then there are the many many hundreds of books purchased since 1971/72 to 1977 from the Adyar Bookshop, part of the Theosophical Society, which we've heard is now defunct. And this does not include the hundreds of seminars, workshops, talks, discussion groups Arthur participated in + all the hundreds of videos we accumulated during the 90's too. We have crates and crates of rare books from the 1700's/1800's/etc archived (stored somewhere safe) and we are still scratching the surface of the depth of research and discovery work we've been involved in over the years.

The point is Steven, WE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN POLITICS, RELIGIONS, LAWS, CONSTITUTIONS, DEMOCRACY's, HIS-STORY, ancient or not, "SYSTEMS", etc, etc.... because they are not a remedy. If there was one truth amongst any of the above, and others not mentioned, you would think by now through word-of-mouth across the ages we would all be living in paradise...... BUT THAT AIN'T THE CASE STEVEN. We worked out why and have taken full-responsibility to do something about it. We have nothing else to live for bar the do mo harm (withdrawing - withdrawing - withdrawing from harm in all its forms) path we are on. We never said it was going to be easy but we also never said it can't be done. The path we are on with all those who live for this do no harm dream of Kindom/Do No Harm Communities is completely changing the way MAN lives with each other and nature ALL ACROSS EARTH FOREVERMORE. Dreams are there for those who live them.

We are in need of rest. Al the best to you and your family Steven.

25 February at 23:07

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Freeman Delusion

"He then attempted to provide me with an envelope, presumably
containing documents. Mr. Meads said the contents of the envelope had been “filed
internationally”: a UCC! filing, a Canadian filing, a commercial security agreement, an identity
bond, “actual and constructive notices”, hold and identity agreements, non-negotiable
security agreements, an affidavit of his status, a copyright and trade-mark of his name contract,
and definitions of the words used in those documents. “UCC” means the “Uniform Commercial
Code”, which is U.S. commercial legislation.

I refused the envelope, and noted that if the envelope was abandoned then I would put
those materials in the garbage. I reassured Mr. Meads that I will apply the laws of Alberta and
Canada, and that while he is in Court, he will follow the Court’s rules. Mr. Meads’ reply was that
was “unacceptable”, and he claimed that the “UCC” is “universal law”.

Mr. Meads then left the courtroom before the completion of the hearing. He abandoned
the envelope he had attempted to provide to me. The envelope was put in the trash by the Clerk."

http://mikiverselaw.blogspot.ca/2012/10/court-of-queens-bench-of-alberta...

MIKIVERSE LAW: COURT OF QUEEN’S BENCH OF ALBERTA CITATION: MEADS V. MEADS, 2012 ABQB 571 PART 1
mikiverselaw.blogspot.com

25 February at 23:08

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Arthur Cristian

This is part of the steps of remedy we live for Steven:

From Bare Dirt To Abundance - A Year In The Life Of The Love For Life Food Forest
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - 8th February 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A

We Walk The Talk. We are not waiting around for others to get us out of this mess. If you want to fully comprehend what is going on, including our strategies in dealing with all the "bad guys" out there, read

"The Steps Of Kindom" http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

25 February at 23:18

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Steven Spiers

And how does that get humanity into space Arthur. Your a hippy. I want to travel to Mars and further.

Your Kingdom is a kingdom of old, not a kingdom of new.

No thanks. Ill study the healings, teachings, pay attention to the ancient ways, but im not doing it to go and live in a friggin mud hut.

Your trying to sell something thats not ideal. Its a fairy story.

25 February at 23:22

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Arthur Cristian

This quiet peaceful awakening of MAN is in the mega millions now Steven. Since we started Love For Life in March 2005 (and we are not claiming exclusivity or privilege or a higher standing or fame, etc....) we have received more than 30,000 emails just from families inspired by our work and who live for this dream. We can't verify this but we were told over two years ago by someone in Russia that The Ringing Cedars books which we first heard about in 2001 and first read in 2007, sold more than 30 million copies, mostly through word-of-mouth. This is just one of many many roads leading to a Do No Harm way of life destination. The head of the Freemasonic/Satanic world has been cut off completely and all we are now witnessing is its final moments of squirming life. The Beast "The System" Is Dead Steven.

25 February at 23:36

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Uwe Uehle

No matter where you are at with the OPPT topic - I highly recommend to spend the 24 min. to listen to this excellent overview given by Brian Kelly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkmq6iygNbg

Brian Kelly On Nibiru TV
www.youtube.com
Brian Kelly from American Kabuki is interviewed about the One People's Public Trust on Nibiru TV. www.americankabuki.blogspot.com

26 February at 02:37

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Robyn Christine

I am pretty sure... that the "love" psyop is a NWO New Age psyop.... Now don't get me wrong here!!! But love did not get us into this mess, and love will not get us out of it.... People DO NOT have an ample understanding of what "love" is.... and the archonic power's play on this... It has been used as a disempowering tool against humanity... like turn the other cheek, so we can slap you again!!! We need "WARRIOR'S" with HONOUR... who can fight... for humanity.... One of the reason's the archonic power's unleashed Eve, was to disempower men... and they did this very successfully.... Those men and women in the forces, military, police etc, are in DIS-HONOUR... because they fight for the corporations... not for humanity.... When you fight in honour, with the blessing of women, for humanity.... You are fighting in HONOUR... and will WIN... You can fight peaceably to a certain extent.. but when crunch time comes... *they* are not going to let go without a litteral fight.... *they* used the gun, in the first place, upon those who did not have such advanced weaponry... and took full advantage... *they* have not changed... and this is why *they* are soooooo intent on disarming the world... 9/11 showed us the weaponry *they* have now... and *they* will not be afraid to use it.... So we are going to have to step up in HONOUR... Hopefully OPPT will awaken a critical mass... to stand beside us, these people will be of Andromedan inclination... We stand at the threshold of an archonic onslaught... a HUGE last stand, that will make or break humanity, as foretold in the myth of creation... and there is only one SUPRESSED myth of creation....

26 February at 12:13

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Freeman Delusion

http://m.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmikiverselaw.blogspot.com%2F2...

MIKIVERSE LAW: ONE PEOPLE'S TRUST
mikiverselaw.blogspot.com

26 February at 17:17

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Freeman Delusion

http://m.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmikiverselaw.blogspot.com%2F2...

MIKIVERSE LAW: THE TENDER FOR LAW – THE UCC FOR IDIOTS
mikiverselaw.blogspot.com

26 February at 17:17

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Steven Spiers

LOVE 432Hz 528Hz say no more.

26 February at 17:18

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Freeman Delusion

The way their law of gravity contravenes my inalienable Sovereign rights is unforgivable.
I hereby demand my freedom from the oppression of the powers that be, who are using their occult magic of gravitation to hold me on this place.

They better either rebutt my claim, or grant me my requested immunity from these laws of gravity, or I will enact my fee schedule and charge them a quintrillion gold bars for each day such laws prevent me from visiting my home planet.

I really can't be bothered with fighting the illuminati or any other insignificant foe any longer.
Captain James Hook awaits my presence in Neverland..!!! Tinkerbell told me lastnight... I have to learn to fly again..!!! "Happy thoughts Happy thoughts".!!! lol

There is no remedy in law on this planet. I hereby supercede all earthly authority and demand the release of all Sovereign beings bound here. My fee claim is so huge that they will obviously be foreclosed, so pack your bags people, we're outa here.

Go to gravitationaltrust400:00bc.com and download your free courtesy notice to serve on your government to demonstrate your supreme sanity.

26 February at 17:23

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JJ Stringbender

Thumbs down to the mikiverselaw post. He lost me at "the war with Lybia was legal".. And yes, I can tell by the syntax that it's a "he"..

26 February at 17:27

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Wanda Vaya

Con Dios Gypsy Rob I'm coming. Please send me your proposed itinerary and I look forward to RSVP'ing my attendance ...

26 February at 17:30 via mobile

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Gary Carlyle Cook

I get your objections Rob but why only post negative stuff. Why not help us sort out any of the issues. This is having a positive effect. The only people complaining are the minority that see it and want to be the top Freeman guru themselves. There are some nice success stories coming through.

26 February at 17:34

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JJ Stringbender

By the way Rob, have you invoiced the judge?

26 February at 17:37

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Freeman Delusion

My fee schedule is invalid, so any invoice has no force of law.

26 February at 17:58

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JJ Stringbender

Send them anyways Rob. If enough of us do this it will be valid. Also, the paper trail may serve you well in the months to come, who knows?

26 February at 19:28

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Arthur Cristian

@ Lisa, Our hearts pour out to everyone enjoindered to the OPPT commercial contracts. If you fully-comprehended legalese you would most definitely not be doing it. All parts to the OPPT video should be up by this weekend. We called it "OPPT And Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit". After you watch the videos lets chat about it. Would you like to do this on air for all to hear/see?

26 February at 23:48

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Gary Carlyle Cook

Arthur. You proved your lack of knowledge once and for all. There is no commercial contracts with OPPT-IN. Not to enact as a defense anyway. And the concept of a contract itself is lawful if done in the right way. You would only go on air with Lisa to self-promote yourself.

26 February at 23:56

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Brian Alexander

the key lies in being able to back up what you say, and to do that you need to be able to liqidate their bond, or their peronsal assits. that is the missing link.

27 February at 00:56

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Arthur Cristian

@ Lisa who said "Hello Arthur, I look forward to your video. I assume you will bring to light the necessary Rebuttal of these filings via a duly verified rebuttal of the DECLARATION OF FACTS UCC # 2012127914, point by point, with specificity and particularity, by duly sworn declaration, with your full responsibility and liability, under penalty of perjury under governing law, or any law so long as it is identified, signed by your wet ink signature, as this is the only way to negate the action of the One Peoples Public Trust."

Lisa, you don't get it yet, you are in "The System" for "The System". UCC is in "The System" for "The System". OPPT is in "The System" for "The System". You are asking the living-sensoryMAN-in-present-sense, Arthur, to use (rent) a shadow of Arthur enjoindered to the UCC of "The System" by "name", to rebutt the OPPT, a fiction NOT in present-sense, of "The System" that is a fiction not in present-sense either. This offer of yours Lisa is a trap to enjoinder Arthur to "The System" under its jurisdiction.

OPPT & UCC were crafted out of "The System". OPPT & UCC are in "The System" for "The System". What you have written is ALL NON-SENSE. You are asking Arthur, trying to compell Arthur to enter the darkness ("intellectual property images" copyrighted) to use the darkness (the "person"/"self" that is intellectual property images copyrighted) to rebutt the darkness ("The System" overseeing all intellectual property images copyrighted).

Your claim has been rebutted because Arthur does not belive in UCC or OPPT, they have no power over Arthur because Arthur is not of "The System" nor for "The System". Arthur is not an authorised copyrighted (right of copy) re-presentative of "The System". Arthur does not live for the darkness nor is Arthur of the darkness. Arthur is not answerable to another MAN, that's unless Arthur has caused first party to first party harm/injury to another sensory-living-MAN in present-sense.

Behind the "intellectual property images" of the UCC & OPPT are MAN in costumes and titles acting as authorised re-presentatives of the UCC & OPPT registered copyright, the "intellectual property images", that's unless UCC & OPPT are sensory names of living-sensoryMAN-in-present-sense, be they surnames or first names with person identification including but not limited to birth certificates, passports, drivers licenses, credit cards, bank accounts, phone accounts, etc? If yes, what is the physical address/location of the MAN acting as UCC and OPPT?

Nothing of "The System" can free a fallen-MAN lost to "The System" Lisa. Instead it's just more of the same non-sense.

Also, you are admitting that you are a loyal abiding servent of "The System". Who Is Your Master?

In present-sense, the light of the necessary Rebuttal of these filings (your claims - you are enjoindered to them by claims/beliefs) has been determined and made null and void, holden for nought by living-sensory-MAN, Arthur, who refuses to buy into the bullshit of a man-made-story, the "intellectual property images" copyrighted, "story-telling spells" of UCC & OPPT that have no power, no force of life, no sense over Arthur.

By hiding behind "intellectual property images" acting in costume and title as the FORCE of UCC & OPPT copyright, the actor in the act of UCC & OPPT is under-limited liability while Arthur performs with FULL-RESPONSIBILTY/LIABITY, there is no shield (intellectual property images) for Arthur to hide behind. Arthur refuses to let another MAN, in the act of UCC & OPPT have a higher standing than Arthur, there is NO governing law. Arthur co-creates ONLY with the living, of SENSE.

"as this is the only way to negate the action of the One Peoples Public Trust."

Do you comprehend what you are saying here? This is hypocrisy of the worst kind. You are wanting/declaring the FORCE of "The System" to enFORCE/back your alliance with it. LOL...........

You STAND for a RE-LEGION

"by duly sworn declaration, with your full responsibility and liability, under penalty of perjury under governing law, or any law so long as it is identified, signed by your wet ink signature, as this is the only way to negate the action of the One Peoples Public Trust."

So the OPPT is a religion!

AND A DICTATORSHIP!

WOW

No different to Knight Templars with shields and lance in hand on the war of their crusades, you are using similar "intellectual property images" as the cause for uniting a GANG and for your enFORCEMENT of its policies over others, particularly those who refuse to be part of any religion. And to maintain the glue of this united gang and regardless of guise you'll need "The System".

WELL DONE LISA.... clap... clap.... clap.... clap.... clap.... clap.... clap....

27 February at 09:49

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Aresivaya'Ka Chian

While a 'system' is in place, and while that 'system' has any authority or power, even if it is assumed as opposed to real, we have to first release our resistance to it in order to be able to then make free will choices around or indeed within it. Not all of us can, or are ready to go and pitch a tent in the bush and live a 100% self sustained lifestyle as much as we dearly wish we could. While I concur that the OPPT works within the very system we are all striving to be released from, it is in fact more about (to the best of my understanding) exposing 'the system' for the sham that it really is by using 'the system' against itself, kinda like the snake eating it's own tail. Once 'the system' has been uncovered and collapses, we can truly start living as free men and women of the land. It is my personal belief that the OPPT offers a great foundation or stepping stone in the right direction for the common man or woman, who is still way too entrenched in 'the system' to fully exctricate themselves fully from it at this point in time. There is no money changing hands in the OPPT whatsoever, it is all free, you don't have to 'join' or 'sign up' or any such nonsense. All it 'requires' is each individual taking personal responsibility and playing their part, even if that part is nothing more than a shift in consciousness. Surely you understand this Arthur Cristian? What if, if NOTHING else, the OPPT movement gave people hope and created a consciousness shift large enough to tip the balance back in favour of freedom, truth and justice? I don't wish to cast you as mine or anyone else's enemy so let's all work together and move forward for once. At the moment, what I see is a guy who has spent a large part of his life seeking his own freedom, and now that the OPPT has come along and people are catching on and jumping on board like wildfire, in your mind that somehow devalues all the hard work you have done and makes you and your ego less important. Is it a god complex that compels you mr 'CHRISTIAN'? Let it go...

27 February at 11:53

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Aresivaya'Ka Chian

instead of wasting your life debunking, critisising, being sarcastic and throwing your intellect and ego around like you are god, why don't you walk the walk and make peace with the OPPT creators and help them come up with a better solution for humanity. and in case you missed it, we are all of the darkness AND the light. nobody escapes who and what they truly are, yin AND yang. hiding in the light is to deny half of what you are and that my friend IS the false light you speak of. I'll take my chances with OPPT over you and your egoic rantings any day.

27 February at 11:53

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Freeman Delusion

This link is not about Arthur or anyone elses rantings or agendas. It's about the legal validity of the OPPT claims, and whether they hold any force of law, or legal effect. That is the reason I started this thread, not to promote any movement. Arthurs is not the only opinion here either, many people who are well versed in redemption process and trust law, like Franco Collins and Winston Shrout openly state how impossible and laughable this ficticious foreclosure really is. It can actually cause much harm to all involved in this fraudulant claim.
http://m.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blogtalkradio.com%2Funive...

Winston Shrout Talking about Truth of OPPT UCC Filing
www.blogtalkradio.com
Host Linda Joslin will be in conversation with Winston Shrout. Winston Shrout has established himself as one of, if not the, leading authority on the philosophy of Redemption in Law. For over a decade a great many researchers have spent countless thousands of hours in an attempt to understand the tr...

27 February at 12:20

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Aresivaya'Ka Chian

hmmmmm.... lawyers speaking out to validate the very system they work within, have studied hard for and built their lives around and also get paid ridiculous amounts for. Think about it...

27 February at 12:22

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Freeman Delusion

If you think either are lawyers you haven't done much homework on what you are jumping in to.

27 February at 12:27

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Aresivaya'Ka Chian

interesting that one of the OPPT creators was a solicitor then huh?

27 February at 12:31

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Aresivaya'Ka Chian

yeah, I don't do bible quotes... sorry!

27 February at 12:33

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Arthur Cristian

@ Aresivaya'Ka Chian - Gees, you are in a "state" of belief - you have to make up slander about us (attack against the MAN) as your only form of protection for your OPPT belief. Can you please BACK YOUR CLAIMS. Are you injured, have we injured you? Please show us the injuries of your emotions. How do you really know what Arthur is like, what Arthur's true intentions are that drive him? Have you ever lived with us or worked with us or had any private dealings with us? Are you psychic? Do you practise black-magic as in remote viewing? Why are you trying to impersonate Arthur, claiming that your thoughts and feelings about Arthur are Arthur's when in fact you made them all up. This is fraud. Who said we are not at peace with MAN????? We are routing out all the lies that stops peace from spreading through MAN to MAN. Can you find lies in what we are saying and if you can't why are you attacking truth and why are you attacking the MAN who shares that truth? The Sun casts no shadow. Even in the "night-time" you can still see/sense all the lights. If there was darkness, all around would be jet-black without a glimmer of light showing through, but that ain't the case. Darkness does not exist. never has and never will. Darkness and duality are man-made story-telling lies. If duality existed the light would instantly be consumed by the dark and the dark instantly consumed by the light. Life/creation would not exist because the light and the dark would cancel each other out before they even started to spring forth. A divided house is a fallen one. Ying and yang is a LIE. As first parties, please bring forth ying and yang to back your claims. Also, bring forth the darkness as a first party to back your claims. Please don't tell us they are invisible and need a MAN to act/perform on their behalf.

It's a figment of your imagination, your posts are mostly the reflection of your mirror of your own making. The images you are making up and reflecting are nowhere else to be found. You were asked straight questions. Why don't you want to answer them. All your questions and probes about the bigger picture were already covered and answered over and over again in the other FB threads you already know about, they were posted on this wall and others that you frequent. Have you read those threads and contemplated on the information shared. We'll post the links below. We provided facts and yet you ignore those facts/truths, unable to debunk them. Are personality cults a strong interest for you? Who Is Your Master?

As you said here "(to the best of my understanding)" you are admiting that you might not be seeing the bigger picture. Is it better to put up all information to the test, particularly beliefs, to see how they stuck up under the test of scrutiny than protecting a belief by filtering all information through a belief, filtering out (ignoring) anything that does not support ones belief? How do you know if what you are thinking is true or not???? What if what you are thinking is false, how will you know??? This is what we do, all-the-time, been doing it for years and years. Between us (Fiona & Arthur), we often argue peacefully to sort out what is what. We go where truth/facts take us, we refuse to fall for a belief.

27 February at 12:35

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Aresivaya'Ka Chian

feel free to add me as a friend if you want to have a real conversation with me, that goes for any of you.

27 February at 12:35

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Aresivaya'Ka Chian

arthur, don't make me post the pudding response again. why must you trifle with me so???

27 February at 12:36

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Arthur Cristian

You are in good hands here. There are many strong for fact, blessed with excellent bullshit detectors, applying the test of scrutiny. Freedom is a team effort and here is where some of them can be found. We wish you only the best in your discovery.

27 February at 12:42

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Aresivaya'Ka Chian

if it's a team effort how come you believe your way is the only way?

27 February at 12:44

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Arthur Cristian

The criteria that everybody dreams for is freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance and do no harm for all of life without causing loss of uniqueness/originality for everyone and anything and no slaves and rulers. This was determined over many years asking thousands of people before we arrived at this criteria. We have not met anyone who says they go against this and that's because no one will admit openly for all to see that they seek to do harm to others and Earth. Through extensive research and thousands of discussions, debates, since March 2005, "The Steps Of Kindom" evolved into shape late 2006, was updated a few times during 2007 and has not been rebutted by anyone since it was posted all those years ago. Why is it OK to support and even protect the trustees, etc, behind OPPT, and yet with us, ignore the info we are sharing preferring to attack our characters while remaining almost completely ignorant of "The Steps Of Kindom" that is a clear remedy for creating the criteria. Has our work harmed you in any way, have we injured you somehow? Should we not be passionate about pushing such a remedy? We are determined to create the criteria in the lives of everyone and everything around us so that we can have it too. If they don't have it then we and our children live in hell. We see life is a gift. Is there something wrong about all of this? If we don't stand for this criteria and stay focused on spreading it into the lives of everyone we can reach should we just give it up? Is there something else out there that is an unrebutted remedy, a cure that clearly achieves this criteria without being caught up in a Waco scenario, etc?

27 February at 13:00

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Debra Bentley

ahahaa luv the pix I in Team in the A hole - classic

28 February at 23:57

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Wu Ming

The Charlie Veitch conspiracy

This is the interview your probably waiting for if your looking for answers.
Please note at 10:00 into this interview CharLIE Veitch say's it was not him shouting medic and was not talking in 3rd person (in reference to Charlie's BBC interview just after Ian Tomlinson's death)
BUT...
Later in the interview you admit that it was you on a megaphone shouting medic...
This amongst many other confusing things you say must bring up many questions for people.
This Interview has so many points raised that many have wanted to ask charlie, also Holo comes in to air his views if you dont know who holo is just look in the comments he will be there for sure he cant help himself lol thanks to all cant do it with out ya xx
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmlKMEbc8eM&feature=youtu.be

The Charley Veitch conspracy
www.youtube.com
Interview on dark city radio with host Commonly known as Dom. I as host wanted to ask Charlie about the many story's that surround him online. This was every...

1st March 2013 at 11:35

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Arthur Cristian

Part Two Is Now Up - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbybeOWZ-Bc - OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit Part Two Love For Life Arthur & Fiona Cristian - This video is an explanation about why you should not sign the OPPT, unless you FULLY comprehend it and agree to what you are signing up for. We saw the problems with the OPPT within about 30 seconds of looking at it but, rather than just pointing out the problems, we have gone into the details of WHY the OPPT is written as it is, why it is having the effect it is, why you might feel like signing it and where it will lead you if you sign it. Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life

OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
27th February 2013 onwards.....
Part One: http://youtu.be/Qjp_9nlrBao

Part Two: http://youtu.be/tbybeOWZ-Bc

Links to OPPT, Tammi Pepperman Podcast, UCC 1-31, Heather Tucci-Jarraf Podcasts, Love For Life Comments, Debates/Discussions About OPPT, Max Igan, Mathematically Perfected Economy: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8359

From Bare Dirt To Abundance - A Year In The Life Of The Love For Life Food Forest : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A

The Dream Of Life Video Series
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8235
Part One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5O-S6wFgts
Part Two: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOHTJpWcH-4
Part Three: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGwxAk4mAPU
Part Four: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6irTeSZtP4s
Part Five A http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej0mCoMjRrY
Part Five B: http://youtu.be/_TgKkTqwPPQ
Part Five C: http://youtu.be/Rucn4YXOYDo
Part Five D: http://youtu.be/KgEwY38JQWU
Part Six: http://youtu.be/IMK7CkU1ih8
Part Seven: Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath):

Part One: http://youtu.be/4ze66_33wxM

Part Two: http://youtu.be/43gIi-sjxJc

Part Three: http://youtu.be/oooY6W63K-M

Ben Lowrey Interviews Arthur Cristian 8th February 2012
http://youtu.be/iH25tucSZSo

The "Name" Is The Mark Of The Beast
The Strawman Identifying Your Slave Status In "The System"
http://youtu.be/DdOag66v7uo

Under The Spell Of Intellectual Property
http://youtu.be/IMK7CkU1ih8

"The Steps Of Kindom"
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5788

Song: Save Our Lives
Written by Arthur & Fiona Cristian - August 2007

Copyright information for "Save Our Lives"
is provided here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMgcLqO7VrQ
and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8252

The Love For Life Work by Arthur and Fiona Cristian:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385

Love For Life is committed to the creation of Do No Harm, Kin Domain communities throughout the world. Kindoms, where we grow our own food and support one another away from the endless rules and obligations we currently struggle under, are the only way to achieve lives of peace, joy and abundance for all and take care of Earth so that Earth flourishes. Love For Life shines a light on the darkness of the world we live in so that we may all recognise that darkness and until there is nowhere left for it to hide. March 2005 - Arthur & Fiona Cristian

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian
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OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit Part Two Love For Life Arthur Cristian
www.youtube.com
This video is an explanation about why you should not sign the OPPT, unless you FULLY comprehend it and agree to what you are signing up for. We saw the prob...

1 March at 12:15

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Arthur Cristian

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbybeOWZ-Bc

OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit Part Two Love For Life Arthur Cristian
www.youtube.com
This video is an explanation about why you should not sign the OPPT, unless you FULLY comprehend it and agree to what you are signing up for. We saw the prob...

1 March at 12:15

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Debra Bentley

Ir is so obvious it is a deception & people are so desperate to escape the slavery of the ' system' I am concerned many will jump into this without full comprehension & understanding of the scam to trap them without any way out later

1 March at 12:18

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Debra Bentley

PS all that glitters is not GOLD - most often it is FOOLS GOLD

1 March at 12:18

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Ken Crabb

LOL

1 March at 12:19

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Arthur Cristian

From another post: "Likewise, we have not attacked you the MAN, though we may not agree with some of of your views, we honour your perspectives, etc, and read/listen to them. We are just saying that some of us have to come together, no matter the circumstances, to make Kindom happen in present sense, otherwise the circumstances will be the reason why we never come together to create our true freedom. Yes, this attitude may have others believe we are saying "my way or the highway" but such views/beliefs are not true about us. We are all thirsty for freedom, some think it's over there, others think it's over here, while more again think it's just too far away, yet in present-sense, we are all standing around the edge of the very waterhole that will quench all our thirst for freedom. Who is the first to dip in and take a drink? If you don't have young children why don't you move over here to Australia and do it with us and us with you? We are talking about the freedom of ALL of MAN across Earth here. We ONLY need to get one Kindom off the ground to establish precedence, a living example of MANS true freedom without the circumstances of belief getting in the way. We must all throw belief out the door. In the middle of the word belief is the word lie and in the middle of the word lie is "i" and "i" is the greatest lie of all. "The Steps Of Kindom"
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

The Steps Of Kindom by Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 2006 to 2012 | Love for Life
loveforlife.com.au
Links to "The Steps Of Kindom" http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304 orhttp://loveforlife.com.au/node/5788 orhttp://loveforlife.com.au/node/8256

1 March at 12:45

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Arthur Cristian

Are you not a "citizen" ("person"/"self") performing commerce in a private corporation jurisdiction like a "country" or a "nation" called "Commonwealth Of Australia", etc, registered under the U.C.C? If yes, now think this out.... we now have the umbrella of a new world corporation superimposing its U.C.C. jurisdiction over all "citizens" of Earth", called C.V.A.C or not, a ONE Planet, ONE People, ONE System corporation government, registered under the U.C.C.

As a "citizen", under the statute "law" of U.C.C, there will be statues in place, amongst the tens of thousands of statutes, for all "citizens" under U.C.C jurisdiction giving "rights" to their U.C.C. "nations"/etc to accept jurisdiction of a ONE WORLD Corporation Government like C.V.A.C, over their jurisdiction while in the meantime, all citizens/persons/selfs are told you do not have to do anything about this, its all been taken care off.

Is OPPT registered under the U.C.C?
Yes.

Are all involved behind OPPT "citizens"/"persons" under the jurisdiction of the U.C.C?
Yes.

Bar this MAN, Arthur Cristian, is there anyone else you know not under the U.C.C, meaning using "name" to perform money/current-cy in any way whatsoever?

What we are saying here is everyone with "name" (tied to commerce) has already agreed, regardless of filing/signing a OPPT form or not, for their "nation"/"country" to be merged under C.V.A.C.

Note: Persons have no standing because they are registered...

Of course they say you do not have to sign any form because you already have via statute, and while you remain a "citizen" under the rulings of the U.C.C, and all "citizens" do not rebut OPPT claims, you the "citizen", DO NOT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING, (they are not lying), then ALL "persons"/"selfs"/"citizens" have permitted those behind O.P.P.T and the U.C.C to push ahead with their ONE WORLD CORPORATION AGENDA to rule over all citizens under U.C.C law across Earth. Is this any different to current politics and all those of law etc, all persons registered under U.C.C (which operates outside borders and boundaries - it embraces all of Earth and probably all of space), being voted in and doing whatever they like, despite everyone complaining about what is going on? Isn't this how all citizens under U.C.C got into this present mess in the first place? ............LOL...............

1 March at 15:39

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The Cristian Family November 2006

Frank O'Collins And His Ucadia
And One-Heaven.org
Worships "The System"
That Is The Beast And Is Hell


By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8407

5th March 2013

We received an email from Jon Lovell 5th March 2013 and below that is our reply.

Firstly a comment from Arthur & Fiona Cristian.

More On OPPT, Frank O'Collins and UCADIA.

The point is "The Intellect Will Never Lead You To Truth". It can't, because the intellect is just thoughts/ideas/images made up by other men and women telling you how to think, feel and act about sensory life-forms you observe all around you.

If you hold up a mirror to reflect the sensory image of the whole of nature/earth/MAN, this reflection/picture is not real. The reflection cannot give you the truth about nature/Earth/MAN because it is not nature/Earth/MAN. The only way to get the truth about nature/Earth/MAN is through direct, sensory experience/perception with nature/Earth/MAN. This reflection is a shadow, an illusion.

ALL of the information of "The System" is made up of reflections and the intellect is an impostor impersonating information of sensory life-forms, inanimate or not. This act of performing as an impostor is committing fraud and is a lie, because we claim that the information is coming directly from the sensory life form when it is not.

The intellect is a reflection of a non-sensory image bouncing to and fro as a memory, and it floats aimlessly around because it has no home to rest, no sensory purpose for the dream of sensory life. This reflection, the intellect, is just an echo of another man's image, no different to the reflection of that man in the mirror. The intellect is not present to sensory life because it is not of sensory life and, worshipping the intellect makes us also not present to sensory life and then able to harm and destroy sensory life because we have become unconscious of the affects of our actions.

The intellect is the matrix, it a fantasy world of make believe. All "system science" is make believe. The education system, the university degrees and all the books and learned texts of "The System" occur only in the intellect. Where can our children go and learn this information without being exposed to the intellect? Where can they naturally experience it in nature?

The reflections of the intellect perform like echoes that have no home to rest. They are bodiless thought-forms empty of life/consciousness and without eternal peace. All we can do is put them to sleep forevermore which we do when we forget about them, no longer giving them life by setting them into motion as demons to possess (HOOD) us because that is ALL they can do, they have nowhere else to go.

If you are relying on the intellect, you are looking for the MAN in the reflection and you will never find him. If you have been exposed to the intellect and trained to use it, you have been hijacked from truth and, while you keep using the intellect to find truth, you will always be searching and truth will always be at arms length.

The whole of the dream of Life is sacred because every MAN is created uniquely out of nature and has original thoughts embodied with the power, the life, the gift of living creator that we are, but we destroy the image of pure and sincere MAN when we craft a man out of the intellect. OPPT and UCADIA are used to create a reflection of MAN and Earth, which means that we are creating a MAN out of another MAN's image, giving our power away to the creator of the image and giving him/her the status of a God. We are not meant to be created in the image of another MAN and the mess that we are in, the mess that is "The System", has been created this way because it is all the images of other men and women that we have fallen for.

OPPT and UCADIA are fashioned out of the intellect. They are the images of other men and, if we continue to create MAN in the image of OPPT and UCADIA, we will only be creating reflections of MAN. This is the apocalypse, this is genocide, this is chaos, and this is the hell often referred to as "The System".

For more on these insights refer to these posts (videos are embedded further down in this webpage):

Turning Away From The Reflection
Of MANS Looking Glass

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
30th April 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8404
https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10201022455671656

Frank O'Collins And His Ucadia
And One-Heaven.org
Worships "The System"
That Is The Beast And Is Hell

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
30th April 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8407

A Spell Master At Work
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
21st April 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8401

OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
27th February 2013 onwards...
Part One: http://youtu.be/Qjp_9nlrBao
Part Two: http://youtu.be/tbybeOWZ-Bc
Part Three: http://youtu.be/yOWoxH-HbVw
Part Four: coming
Part Five: coming

The Spell Is Broken
Taking The Land To Create Kindom

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8365

"The Steps Of Kindom"
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

Ben Lowrey Interviews Arthur Cristian
Love For Life - 8th February 2012
95 Minutes 28 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH25tucSZSo

The Dream Of Life Part 6 - Under The Spell Of Intellectual Property
Arthur Cristian - 51 Minutes 52 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMK7CkU1ih8

The "Name" Is The Mark Of The Beast The Strawman
Identifying Your Slave Status In "The System"
By Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
5th February 2012 - 56 Minutes 25 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdOag66v7uo

Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 8th February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8350
Part One: http://youtu.be/4ze66_33wxM - 70 Minutes 5 Seconds
Part Two: http://youtu.be/43gIi-sjxJc - 81 Minutes 13 Seconds
Part Three: http://youtu.be/oooY6W63K-M - 70 Minutes 18 Seconds
Part Four: coming

All the best to you and your family
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

Email received from Jon Lovell

“Arthur,

Greetings, my name is Jon Lovell. I stand on the firm-land of America; in the province of Virginia, & am 30 years of age. I think this will be the third time I've written to you; concerning your subtle, inert attempts in subverting the model of UCADIA.

Rather, than engage in ad hominem, to which I must hold myself responsible for doing, in my previous e-mails to you, I will despond in less-fallacious devices & guard my honor-as well as yours.

I disagree with many of the philosophies on your website, as well as the various posts by you & your agents, scattered about the internet, respectively. Yet, what is most disconcerting to me, is the bevy of contradictory suppositions, inherent in your message. Yes, make no mistake, Arthur, you too, are not above the specter of belief, though you may fancy yourself to be; purely, comprised of ‘love & life.’ Your misbelief & distrust, in UCADIA, presupposes “half of the story.” Say one, blindly, accepts your postulation: that we are ‘conscious love’ & light. Now, how do you prove it? Where is the proof? Then, you say, “Well, the proof is in nature. Just look at the song of life.” Alright then, how would you account for your unique form in dimension, your weight & substance bonding you to the earth, the note-worthy inclusion of 48 chromosomes in every species of primate, except ‘humanity?’ You reply, “Oh, well, that’s because we’re conscious love & light.” Dissimulation & “half-truths” are far more dangerous than lies. They undermine, stuffily; castigate. As much as one may want to, one must not ‘over-simplify’ one’s way towards the discovery of ‘truth.’ One must construct a model of simple axiom, which instructs itself to the resolution of, both, simple & complex axiom. This is the only way to navigate the ‘paradox.’ You cannot resolve it by saying, ‘we’re all made up of sugar, spice, & everything nice, so we don’t need rules to exist-’I trust that rhetorical device was sufficiently useful. Yes, the greatest expression of free will is in the form of ‘anarchy.’ However, at the risk of appealing to force, I must say, if we were ever to experience pure free will, in this dimension, then existence, in form, would cease. There must be co-dependency, to some degree, at all times, & the only way to circumnavigate this conundrum is in the form of an idea, a model; a dream. There will always be rules, whether in heaven, nature, or in society. You can either reconcile this through diminutive, infantile emotion or through reason, logic, & truth.

In closing, my sincere hope is that, you, thoroughly, read & digest the material of UCADIA before engaging in public denouncement. It is not Frank’s model anymore; it is it’s own & all of ours. So you longer offend him-you offend me. I realize how easy it is to whine, first, & ask questions later, yet the key to UCADIA is: you have to keep reading. Every, single reservation & incomprehension expressed, in your denouncements or through your website, is within the model of UCADIA; you just haven’t read it or computated it, correctly. It has nothing to do with the model, & more likely, something to do with the efficacy of your message. I urge you to remove any & all vestiges, of public vilification of UCADIA, from your website & publications; lest you place yourself & your authors in grave dishonor. If your desire is to criticize, then do so on a point for counter-point basis, with a model equally as or more superior than UCADIA. You have no right to cause doubt & conflict, in people, not as well-versed in the art of propaganda, purely, to satisfy some superstitious predilection of yours or your wife’s to ‘balance mother nature-’ this is not an appeal ‘pathos,’ yet “notice to agent is notice to principal.” This is a private transmission, & I am not speaking on behalf of UCADIA, only myself..

The Cristian Family November 2006 We replied to Jon Lovell 5th March 2013……………..

Hi Jon
Ucadia is not a remedy. It is “intellectual property” that you have been trained to re-present while under the “spells” of that intellectual property.

Ucadia is not present with the presence of Life; only a dumbed-down MAN present with the presence of LIFE can act on behalf of Ucadia.

This means the MAN is possessed by a demon – possession as in possesZION/possesSION.

If they were not exposed to “The System” or to anyone else exposed to "The System", where could our children go to in nature to learn about Ucadia? Would they be able to find out and comprehend Ucadia without a brainwashed MAN explaining it to them?

We are not meant to be IN the image (under-the-standing ) of another MAN. We are all meant to be creating unique/original thoughts.

Do you have to jump 10 feet across a room to grab your next breath? Of course not; in PRESENT-SENSE everything of LIFE is provided.

Living Creator (truth/life/nature/earth/MAN) is in PRESENT-SENSE – we breathe only here and now and all MANS thoughts occur only here and now. Past and future thoughts/images/information require MAN/us to exist in present-sense to think and feel them. Without MAN in present-sense all past and future thoughts/information/images cannot be.

There is so much to all of this so if you feel inspired to do so you can watch Love For Life videos, articles, debates/discussions to help you comprehend the bigger picture. Links provided below.

Frank O’Collins cannot back his claims about Ucadia.

“Hello Ucadia please talk to us”??? “Hellooooo — “Hellllooooooo” — “Uuuuuccccaaadddiiiaaa” “Anyone Home”?

You see Jon, only a brainwashed MAN can come forward to re-present Ucadia and this is FRAUD and a LIE.

Ucadia is not a first party, instead it’s a third party.

All you have here is a MAN-made story and that’s it!

There is no sensory life-form embodying this information, therefore Ucadia is NON-SENSORY/non-sense.

Ucadia is Wonderland and the brainwashed/trained re-presentative of Ucadia is Alice through Ucadia’s looking glass.

Ucadia is a shield, an IMAGE Frank O’Collins uses to hide behind to derive power and control over another MAN, meaning “The System”.

Ucadia COMPELS another MAN to perform. This is black-magic and is demonic-possession.

Ucadia is a false-idol.

Ucadia is a story and Frank is its story-teller – All Freemasons/Satanists are brilliant clever story-tellers.

Images of deception are non-sense IMAGES that are the “spells”.

Are you under the “spell” of Ucadia, Jon?

Put it to the test – back your claims, bring forward the first parties.

It is so very important to learn the difference between SENSE and NON-SENSE.

Everything will start becoming clear for you, that’s if you are willing to go where logic of truth/sense/life/consciousness takes you.

If you are filtering everything through belief, and discard all other information that does not meet with your belief, this is the evidence of the “spell” at play on you, Jon.

In the middle of the word belief is the word lie and in the middle of the word lie is the word “i” and “i” is the greatest lie of all.

The greatest lie and liar is the one closest to truth.

It only takes one drop of black (lie) into pure sincere white to distort the whole of truth (white).

Truth is always in PRESENT-SENSE while lies are bound to NON-PRESENT-SENSE (past or future).

Lies are NON-SENSE. The IMAGES of lies are never in PRESENT-SENSE You cannot touch, taste, feel, smell, hear, see them as SENSORY LIFE-FORMS of nature – remember we are talking about a living-creator in present-sense and not a dead-corpse-fiction. Example: “The Thought Of God Is Not God”. All liars can do is destroy sensory life-forms of nature/earth to construct dead-corpse physical/material images that are now without sensory-life. They can’t talk, walk, think. feel, poo, wee, negotiate, contract, contemplate, create-life, etc. They are DEAD IMAGES (NON-SENSE) as in A, B, C or 1, 2, 3 or compass, square, etc., and everything that comes out of these abominations are dead too, which is why they need dumbed-down MAN to re-present these IMAGES.

We, MAN are not meant to follow non-sense-IMAGES, Jon……. as in Crucified MAN on a cross – look where this has got us! Or Coca Cola or McDonalds.

Please watch the videos, read the articles and get up to speed.

Don’t believe in anything we say. Instead use your brain/senses and scrutinise ALL information and go where the logic of truth/sense takes you. We/MAN are not meant to DO HARM to the dream of LIFE starting with MAN. We/MAN are the ONLY ones who can set images into motion – to give them life. If we are on the true path, IMAGES set into motion are sensory life-forms with the FORCE of Life to take full-responsibility for their image in present sense. We do not have to slave for these sensory life-forms, inanimate or not. But it all goes wrong when we fall into motion having to act everything on behalf of a non-sense image which makes slaves out of us. This non-sense image is a lie. Note: All thoughts are images.

Frank O’Collins re-presents “The System”, as Ucadia is "The System" under another guise. When you fall for belief you are under the “spell” of a re-legion (religion) and behind all religions/myths/fairytales/occults/esoterics/Gods/etc., as documented across all recorded ages is “THE SYSTEM” which is HELL.

Frank O’Collins is a practising black-magic warlock casting “spells" of NON-SENSE.

We met Frank face to face back in 2010 and we knew then, after asking him questions, that he was a trained liar.

Whether he is conscious of this or not (under a “spell) we don’t know yet. Up until now, Frank hasn't let his beliefs be put to the test of scrutiny with us.

Watch these videos and read the articles and get back to us once you fully comprehend what is really going on.

We suggest you also check out Arthur’s CIA’s Facebook wall for all the latest – use the scam of OPPT/CVAC information we've been posting for 8 days now as the test for UCADIA and Frank O'Collins.

All the best
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

Below are mostly recent links to Love For Life, videos, articles, songs, debates/discussions and podcasts.

All videos are embedded below, just scroll down to find them.

They contain a vast amount of insights for you to contemplate on.

It's best you do not believe in anything we say and instead use your brain/senses to scrutinise all information and go where the logic of truth takes you.

Links to all other videos, etc, can be found here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385

Background information about us, can be found by scrolling down the Love For Life website Quick User Guide: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608

All the best to you and your family
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
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QUICK INTRODUCTION INTO
THE LOVE FOR LIFE INSIGHTS

Check out the Food Forest we created in a very short period of time.
We demonstrate how to grow lots of organic food in small spaces quickly.

"From Bare Dirt To Abundance"
A Year In The Life Of The
Love For Life Food Forest

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
8th February 2013
51 Minutes 46 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A

Capturing Another MANS Uniqueness
A Facebook Debate With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
And Raymond Karczewski
Starting 13th May 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8414

A Spell Master At Work
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
21st April 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8401

Turning Away From The Reflection
Of MANS Looking Glass

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
30th April 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8404

Frank O'Collins, His Ucadia
And One-Heaven.org
Worships "The System"
That Is The Beast And Is Hell

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
30th April 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8407

Comment About The Video
"Satanic Ritual Child Sacrifices Exposed"

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
12th October 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8232
http://youtu.be/-jTdc04ODU4

A Little Bit About ORGASM & WATER
And
Re-Presenting Intellectual Property
Will Never Get You To Truth

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
20th to 22nd May 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8418

Ben Lowrey Interviews Arthur Cristian
Love For Life - 8th February 2012
95 Minutes 28 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH25tucSZSo

The Dream Of Life Part 6 - Under The Spell Of Intellectual Property
Arthur Cristian - 51 Minutes 52 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMK7CkU1ih8

The "Name" Is The Mark Of The Beast The Strawman
Identifying Your Slave Status In "The System"

By Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
5th February 2012 - 56 Minutes 25 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdOag66v7uo

OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
27th February 2013 onwards...
Part One: http://youtu.be/Qjp_9nlrBao
Part Two: http://youtu.be/tbybeOWZ-Bc
Part Three: http://youtu.be/yOWoxH-HbVw
Part Four: coming
Part Five: coming

The Spell Is Broken
Taking The Land To Create Kindom

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8365

"The Steps Of Kindom"
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
2006 to 2007 - Updated/Revised 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 8th February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8350
Part One: http://youtu.be/4ze66_33wxM - 70 Minutes 5 Seconds
Part Two: http://youtu.be/43gIi-sjxJc - 81 Minutes 13 Seconds
Part Three: http://youtu.be/oooY6W63K-M - 70 Minutes 18 Seconds
Part Four: coming

Also check out
The Dream Of Life Video Series Part 5A, 5B & 5C - System Science Is Fraud And The Timeline Of Chaos
All links provided below in the video section.

More videos coming shortly:

LINKS

Link To Find A List Of All
Articles, Debates, Discussions, Videos & Podcasts
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian

http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385

BACKGROUND

Macquarie Bank
To learn what happened with Macquarie Bank from 2005 onwards go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5

The Cristian Family
To explore what happened since March 2005 to change our lives and fill us with so many inspiring insights
can be found by scrolling down through this webpage: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608
The disclaimers will fill you in even more.

Extensive Research Library
Over 11,000 individual articles, research documents, podcasts, videos, discussions/debates, etc,
are contained within the Extensive Research Library: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/82
Well over 100 million browsers have visited the website since December 2006.

Examples Of Many:

Astronomy - Geocentricity - Heliocentricity - Does The Earth Go Around The Sun Or Does The Sun Go Around The Earth?
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3455

Dinosaurs - Are They Still Amongst Us? Evidence Says They Are
Dinosaurs: Science Or Science Fiction by David Wozney
Dinosaur DECEPTION! Dinosaurs Never Existed! Dinosaur Fossils Are A Hoax

http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3457

Raw Food - Living Food - Vegetarian Websites - Recipes - Lots Of Information On Why A Living Food Diet
This link provides embedded videos created by Gary Yourofsky
and a documentary "A Delicate Balance - The Truth" created by Aaron Schiebner.
He is the grandson of Dr Vera Scheibner, a very well-known anti-vaccine campaigner.
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5068

Facebook


We also post lots of information including Love For Life debates/discussions on Facebook.
As examples of many, links to some of these debates/discussions, like Julian Assange, are provided in this email/post.
Links to Arthur's Facebook wall and other Love For Life group pages are also provided below.

SONGS

Song - Save Our Lives - Rough Demo - With Lyrics
Written By Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
August 2007 - 5 Minutes 38 Seconds

Song - Celebrate Death To The Living - Rough Demo - With Lyrics
Written By Hannah Wood & Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
July 2012 - 6 Minutes 30 Seconds

More professionally made Love For Life videos & songs will be posted in the coming months.
We've been on a massive learning curve in almost all areas of the Love For Life work we do.
We basically started as amateurs/novices.

RECENT ARTICLES / DEBATES / DISCUSSIONS

A Little Bit About ORGASM & WATER
And
Re-Presenting Intellectual Property
Will Never Get You To Truth

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
20th to 22nd May 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8418

Capturing Another MANS Uniqueness
A Facebook Debate With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
And Raymond Karczewski
Starting 13th May 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8414

Turning Away From The Reflection
Of MANS Looking Glass

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
30th April 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8404

Frank O'Collins And His Ucadia
And One-Heaven.org
Worships "The System"
That Is The Beast And Is Hell

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
30th April 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8407

Comment About The Video
"Satanic Ritual Child Sacrifices Exposed"

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
12th October 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8232
http://youtu.be/-jTdc04ODU4

A Spell Master At Work
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
21st April 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8401

The Spell Is Broken
Taking The Land To Create Kindom

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8365

Control The Land
And You Control MAN On The Land
Displace MAN From Land
And You Turn MAN Into Slaves

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
April 2011 (Updated 14th September 2011)
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8237

The Incarceration of Dean Clifford
Email Sent To Wayne Swan
Govern(men)t Of Canada
Just(us) Department
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
9th February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8349

Difference Between Limited Liability/Responsibility
And Full Liability/Responsibility

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Facebook - 13th July 2012
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8295

Alloidal Rights/Natural Rights Is "Intellectual Property"
The Basis Of "Ownership"

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Facebook - 19th July 2012
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8297

The Deception Of Alphabet Languages
Causing MANS Spiritual Suicide
The True Purpose Behind The Invention
Of Phonetics & Etymology

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 20th July 2012
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8299

The Dual In Duality
Trapped In The Reflection Of 'i" Projection

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 3rd August 2012
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8301

We Are Saying That "Going Within" Or "Going Without"
Is Non-Sense, Is "Intellectual Property",
Is Part Of The "System Science" "Spells"

A Facebook Discussion & Debate
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 8th to 11th August 2012
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8302

Yellow Never Told Us It Was Yellow
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
12th September 2012
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8319

The Non-Sense Obstacles
Of The "Sustainability Movement"
How The "Haves" (Rulers)
Still Want The "Have Nots" (Slaves)

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Facebook - 5th May to 2nd June 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8178

Vortex Of Deactivation And Inactivity
Possible Facebook Espionage
Or Almost Undetectable Hacking

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
24th August 2012
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8316

Julian Assange - Wikileaks
Another Of The Many "Good Guys" Coming Out
Of The Freemasonic/Satanic Production Line
With The Intention To Lead The Duped Sheeple
Into Entering The New World Order

A Facebook Discussion
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
Starting 27th August 2012
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8347

Example: A4 page/Fax Sent To Gatton Court House Qld
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
15th December 2012
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8346

REMEDY

Links to "The Steps Of Kindom"
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304
or
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8256
or
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5788

Link to "The Steps Of Kindom Background"
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8305

VIDEOS

OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
27th February 2013 onwards.....
Part One: http://youtu.be/Qjp_9nlrBao

Part Two: http://youtu.be/tbybeOWZ-Bc

Part Three: http://youtu.be/yOWoxH-HbVw

Part Four: coming
Part Five: coming

"From Bare Dirt To Abundance"
A Year In The Life Of The
Love For Life Food Forest

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
8th February 2013
51 Minutes 46 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8352

Love For Life Kindom Garden Bowral
Created By 18 Year Old Aidan

5th December 2012
4 Minutes 27 Seconds
http://youtu.be/eJQTSZk3kmQ
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8344

Ben Lowrey Interviews Arthur Cristian
Love For Life - 8th February 2012

95 Minutes 28 Seconds

The "Name" Is The Mark Of The Beast The Strawman
Identifying Your Slave Status In "The System"

By Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
5th February 2012 - 56 Minutes 25 Seconds

The Dream Of Life Part 6 - Under The Spell Of Intellectual Property
Arthur Cristian - 51 Minutes 52 Seconds

Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 8th February 2013
Part One: http://youtu.be/4ze66_33wxM - 70 Minutes 5 Seconds

Part Two: http://youtu.be/43gIi-sjxJc - 81 Minutes 13 Seconds

Part Three : http://youtu.be/oooY6W63K-M - 70 Minutes 18 Seconds

http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8350
Part Four: coming

The Dream Of Life - Part 5A - System Science Is Fraud And The Timeline Of Chaos
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - 57 Minutes 35 Seconds

The Dream Of Life - Part 5B - System Science Is Fraud And The Timeline Of Chaos
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - 67 Minutes 26 Seconds

The Dream Of Life - Part 5C - System Science Is Fraud And The Timeline Of Chaos
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - 67 Minutes 25 Seconds

The Dream Of Life - Part 5D - Images Of Deception
The Intelligence Agents Amongst Us
"We Will Lead Every Revolution Against Us"

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - 44 Minutes 53 Seconds

The Dream Of Life - Part One
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
62 Minutes 47 Seconds

The Dream Of Life - Part Two
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
83 Minutes 47 Seconds

The Dream Of Life - Part Three
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
91 Minutes 10 Seconds

The Dream Of Life - Part Four
Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
57 Minutes 30 Seconds

Key To Kindom - Co-Creation Of Do No Harm Communities
Causing A Mass Exodus From "The System"

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - February 2011
24 Minutes 48 Seconds

Dream Of Life - Kindom Garden Update
4th February 2012 - Love For Life
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
17 Minutes 16 Seconds

Once Upon A Time by Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
Short Stories Recorded Mid 2009
8 Minutes 38 Seconds

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The Cristian Family November 2006

Turning Away From The Reflection
Of MANS Looking Glass


A Facebook Post
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

30th April 2013

Facebook Link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10201022455671656

L...........(sanitised) sent us this PM........ "I was reading your materials, as my husband has recently started on this journey. I noticed you say you are not Christians, I would like to know what your faith based religion is. I see you use living creator and say there is no God. Explain please."

We replied.......

Hi L.........(sanitised), the Love For Life videos explain almost everything in great detail. Links provided below. For example "The Thought Of God Is Not God". The thought of God is not a direct first party to first party experience. The thought of God is just thoughts made up by other men and women telling you how to think and feel about a God. This is not direct experience/perception of God.

All thoughts are images and the thought of God is an image made up by others. This is no different to looking at the reflection of you in the mirror expecting the reflection of you to talk to you as you talk to it. The reflection can't. All you can do is fantasise/pretend that this reflection is talking to you.

This is no different to you pretending/acting/performing as Alice In Wonderland. Alice is not present with the presence of life, neither is Wonderland. Only you are present with the presence of life. In present sense, the presence of life is embodied in your image BUT the presence of life is not embodied in the image of Alice and Wonderland. We can't sense them, hence they are non-sense images (non-present-sense-images).

We can sense (touch, taste, feel, smell, hear, see) you, the living MAN in present sense but we can never sense Alice or Wonderland even while you are acting as Alice in Wonderland. No matter how clever and brilliant you might be in trying to convince us you are Alice in a real living Wonderland, you will never be able to bring forward Alice or Wonderland or The Mad Hatters as first parties to back your claims so that we can have a direct first party to first party sensory experience with Alice and Wonderland.

While you pretend to RE-PRESENT (act/perform) Alice and Wonderland, claiming Alice and Wonderland exist but unable to bring them forward to back your claims, you are actually committing fraud and you are lying. You are trying to get us to accept that the reflection is real.

All you have got as evidence is you acting as Alice and all the household furniture, clothes and toys you use to make up the props and settings of Wonderland and the Mad Hatters, etc. These props, costumes and titles do not make Alice and Wonderland true.

The same applies when Bob and Judy knock on our front door claiming they have the living word of God with them.

We say "Have you?'

We say, "Please bring forward this God to back your claims.... Hello God...... HELLLLOOOOOOOO GOOOOOODDDDDD ....... anyone there?"

We then say to Bob and Judy, "Why is your God invisible? Why can't it talk for itself directly with us, first party to first party without another MAN, a 3rd party interloper, intermeddler, interceder, pretender, actor, performer, having to RE-PRESENT this God we can't sense (touch, taste, feel, smell, see. hear,) in present-sense?????

Can you please bring forward someone who was present when God wrote or instructed others to write God's living word in the Bible?"

Without them bringing forward this God, or anyone who was present, to back their claims, they are committing fraud and lying while they act/perform as this "God" and all other characters requiring re-presentation in the Bible. None of these characters are present with the presence of Life. This God/IMAGE and these characters/IMAGES are not present with the presence of life. There is no LIFE in their images, instead they are reflections, shadows of another man-made thought.

All they have got is belief, faith and associated opinion in these NON-SENSORY-IMAGES. No matter how clever and brilliant they make their belief, faith and associated opinion with a "God" or a "Jesus/Je-Zeus, or "Galactic Federation" or "Supreme Court" or "Citibank" or "Money", etc, etc, to be, they STILL CANNOT MAKE IT TRUE. In the middle of the word belief is the word lie and in the middle of the word lie is "i" and "i" is the greatest lie of all. Refer to parts 1 - 3 of the OPPT videos.

It is so easy to create morally and naturally correct images that have only one lie amongst them. That lie creates monumental damage, despite the truths. The Bible, and all other holy/spiritual/esoteric/occult books, are full of morally, naturally correct truths but the lies trap us in the reflections that are images made up by other men and women that we worship. All Bible believers break the First Commandment; 'thou shalt have no other God before me", because they are worshipping the image, the reflection of a God instead of having a direct first party to first party sensory experience/perception of living creator in present sense.

The greatest lie/liar is the one closest to the truth.

As we have the power/gift of life to set images into motion the lies/liars we set into motion (believe/faith in/trust/etc) do all the damage/harm while truths do no harm. The reason that we cannot work out why everything is going wrong is that we are unable to recognise what is lies and what is truth. We are unable to stop the harm spiralling out of control because we cannot see the cause of the harm. All the while we have good intentions, crying out, "We've got to stop this", we keep setting the harm into motion. Nothing seems to stop the destruction. What is it going to take to stop it? Stop living the lies. Our work is all about learning to recognise the lies so that we can stop the harm and create Do No Harm Communities, Kindoms where we do no harm to life and live for the lives of those around us, pulling away completely from "The System" of harm so that we no longer give it life to harm MAN/LIFE/NATURE/EARTH (anyone/anything) with.

Living Creator is present with the presence of life, while a "God" is not present with the presence of life. In present-sense, LIFE is the LIFE of horse or wind or rain or forests or mountains or MAN, etc.... LIFE is LIVING-CREATOR PRESENT WITH THE PRESENCE OF LIFE. We can sense LIFE (Living-Creator) in all sensory images of life/nature/earth, inanimate or not, but we can't sense a "God" or any other non-sensory image. Remember, we are talking about a living creator (God) here and not a dead God that is not present amongst the living.

MAN has the power/gift of life to set images/thoughts into motion which we do through our breath that is the water of LIFE (consciousness) of LIVING-CREATOR in present-sense. Unfortunately, because of MANS free-will, some of our ancestors created non-sensory images and made them out to be true. Using scrutiny to comprehend the clearly defined distinction between sense and non-sensory images is the challenge we all have to face and, until we rout out all the lies, we will continue doing harm to each other as we force each other to becomes slaves in a man-made "system" (image) of non-sense.

We are lost in the shadows of non-sensory images and, while we are lost, we are destroying the living, sensory dream of life. We are committing spiritual suicide because we are giving our power, our real lives, away to other men and women who have fallen for the lie that some men and women have a higher standing than others. This is what "The System", the reflection that is the lie of non-sensory images (DARKNESS), is all about and this is the lie that is killing everything of life, including our lives. Too busy lost in the shadows and serving the shadows, we have forgotten who we really are. This is what belief, faith and associated opinion does to us. This is why we are not "Christians" and why we have NO faith or belief in any man-made image. Truth does not require belief. Do we have to believe in a tree before we can sense it? Do we have to jump 10 feet across a room to grab our next breath?

Below, we have copied an email we sent yesterday...............

The Cristian Family November 2006 Hi Benjamin
Thanks for writing to us.
In a rental property, we are in the suburb of East Bowral, Southern Highlands, 70-80 minute drive-time south west Of Sydney Airport When it comes to co-creating real Kindoms/Do No Harm Communities/Tribes which a food forest is part of, and since early 2005, no, we don't know anyone else doing what we are doing. We say this with clarity because well over 100 million people have visited the Love For Life website and we've spoken with thousands of "alternative" type people all across Earth.

To save lots of time explaining our views here we have copied one of our Facebook posts from yesterday further down in this email. And below this post you will find mostly recent links to Love For Life videos, articles, songs, debates/discussions and podcasts.

They contain a vast amount of insights for you to contemplate on.

It's best you do not believe in anything we say and instead use your brain/senses to scrutinise all information and go where the logic of truth takes you.

Links to all other videos, etc, can be found here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385

Background information about us, can be found by scrolling down the Love For Life website Quick User Guide: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608

All the best to you and your extended family
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

The Cristian Family November 2006

Can We Get Past The Distractions
To Create Our True Freedom?

Facebook Post
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

28th April 2013

Link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10201010715618162

How do we apply this "free" way of life in a practical sense without "The System"?

How do we live with each other & nature/earth without doing harm to MAN/Earth/Nature?

Please read & watch:

"The Spell Is Broken": http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8365,

"A Spell Master At Work": http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8401,

"The Steps Of Kindom": http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304,

"OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit": Parts 1, 2, 3 (parts 4 & 5 soon) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qjp_9nlrBao,

"Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath)": Parts 1, 2, 3 (part 4 soon) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ze66_33wxM and

"From Bare Dirt To Abundance - A Year In The Life Of The Love For Life Food Forest": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A

All videos are embedded below.

All links and so much more information can be found here: www.loveforlife.com.au/node/8369.

The answer to the questions above is what we have been working on since 2005, learning how to walk the talk of true freedom without harm. We have found that, for most, this is so hard to do because of the extent that we are all compromised by "The System", hence the videos we are making to show how and why we are trapped. When we comprehend this, we can begin to turn our backs on "The System".

Put it this way, we have experienced 12 death threats, 4 assassination attempts, a kidnapping the torture of supporters in their late 70s, one with a bullet put through his hip,& then tortured for hours, the theft of family home & destruction of 2 businesses & being forced close to destitution & poverty with 4 young daughters to care for. & this is only scratching the surface.

This is not about getting into fear about it or giving it energy but if we can't see how "The System" works with it's intelligence networks & Freemasonic/Satanic orders, you won't be able to break the spells that keep you trapped. Yes, we need the courage to break free but also the clear vision to recognise just exactly what we are breaking free from, & the steps to break free & how not to re-create our enslavement under another guise for our descendants to come.

The work we have created is the gift that shows clearly the steps to take. The question is, who is willing to do what it takes? Taking full responsibility for your life is daunting but the ONLY way to true freedom.

We are ruled by images that are thoughts & we, MAN, are the only ones that can set images into motion. The trauma of our brainwashing is so great that these non-sensory (non present sense) images rule us, keeping us serving "The System".

Our true power is in present sense & it is in present sense that we focus on present sense images of life, who we really are, what we are really part of & how we walk the talk of a do no harm way of life.

The remedy is simple if we can see past the distractions. Once you/we/us fully comprehend the difference/distinction between non-sensory images (intellectual property) and present-sense images we can clearly move forward without recreating the same mistakes of enslavement made by our ancestors and us up to now.

Since 2005/2006, NO ONE can find fault in what we are saying and therefore be able to debunk the information and the Love For Life website has had well over 100 million people visit it thus far, and that is not forgetting the large traffic coming through Facebook and YouTube as well.

The Cristian Family November 2006

Life Is A Gift

Everything of "The System", including "The System", is trauma based and unless MAN (we) learn/s how not to react to trauma anymore, we will continue being compromised by "The System" and forever remain trapped in "The System". Reaction to trauma is how "The System" is constructed. There is no other way to do this. Getting past our reactions to trauma is the most challenging thing for us to do and the most necessary thing to do if we are ever to walk away from "The System". If we bring our reactions to trauma to Kindom, we will sabotage and destroy it. The last 8.5 years or so of Love For Life work has been all about learning how we all got into this mess ("The System" that is a man-made living hell) and the remedy to get us all back out of it.

We feel we are coming to the end of this work. Now it's all about walking-the-talk of Kindom while helping others learn what we have learnt without causing loss of uniqueness and originality to anyone/anything and without the ongoing need for slaves and rulers, without causing more harm to be set into motion, without causing another WACO scenario and without depriving everyone of abundance, joy, peace, freedom and truth. Most people will wake up from their deep programmed sleep when they can have a direct experience of Kindom through their senses as they see that there is another way to live.

When people witness/learn how to live with each other with NO man-made SYSTEM required, when they can experience that LIFE IS A GIFT and take full-responsibility for creating/being a gift of life/love, then paradise is being created all around us, meaning we live for your freedom, truth, peace, joy, health, abundance, etc, so that we can have it to. When everyone gives up being self-centred (no more "i","i", "i", "mine", "mine", "mine", "own", "own", "own", etc, etc, "my land", "my freedom", "my truth", "my belief", "my money", "my spirituality", "my spiritual journey", "my labour", "my judgements", "mine", "mine", "mine", etc, etc, etc,) and see and live for Life is a gift, then they all make sure that everyone has freedom, truth, peace, joy abundance, etc, so that they can have it too. If, as a community, tribe, village, we all see Life Is A Gift and we all make sure that everyone has truth, freedom, joy, peace, abundance, etc, then we all have it and we are all living in paradise.

Love is life - life is love. We/MAN set/s into motion the life that is the creation of MAN'S love for life. Life is love because we do not claim ownership over what we create, over the life we gift with our life to set dreams of life into motion. Arthur has given up ALL contracts with the "State"/"Commonwealth", etc, so he is no longer in commerce to be party to accumulating anything for "SELF". If we "own" (not let go of) our last breath, drink or meal, we die. We also die (fall from sense/consciousness/life/do no harm) when we own "intellectual property" by claiming it as truth through our belief, faith and associated opinion of it. The power is in the love for life we gift everyone and everything around us and when we redirect this power back on "self" by focusing on my money, my land, my freedom, my peace,...etc, we are lost.

Imagine the sun believing in the ownership of its life, of its outgoing rays so that it turns its rays back on itself, not wanting to share its light. Now the sun is a black-hole void of life. Where life (light) once was is now empty of life (darkness). This is what becomes of a MAN lost to "self". Take a really good look out the window to see the truth of this fact going on all around us. Darkness is a man-made construct - the sun casts no shadow and we can still see all the lights in the night sky.

Imagine a colony of ants given a new program called in-divide-u-all-s (individuals); each ant can now have its "own" politically correct truth backed by the maker of this new program called "The System". The God (Grand Architect) of this program says, "You can now be whatever you want to be, you no longer need to be an ant in an ant colony". So the ants go off to be punk rockers, engineers, scientists, jews, christians, muslims, republicans, democrats, rich, poor, new agers, gay, etc, etc... In the meanwhile very few are now taking care of the elderly ants or their babies, leaving it to "The System" to take care of their health, life, etc.... Worst of all the ant colony is no longer being maintained until it collapses with all the in-divide-u-all ants going down with it. The ants forgot who they really are and what they were really part of. Their true purpose was hijacked. This is what is now happening to MAN (there is no word in English that describes man, woman, child collectively in wholeness/synergy so we use MAN). For a reality check, pop your head out and take a very good look outside your window.

Do we have to jump 10 feet across a room to grab our next breath???

Of course not, everything we need of life and so much more is already taken care of.

We just have to let go of the reflection in the mirror that we believe is real due to the education/brainwashing we have all received in "The System". When we believe that the reflection is real, alive of its own free-will & can walk, talk, think, feel, poo, wee, negotiate, contract and set its own image/life into motion, we believe that it is who we really think we are, when it just a story being re-presented by a story-teller who told us how to think, feel and act.

This is all explained in great detail in our Love For Life work which is spreading and spreading all across Earth, with the Love For Life website due to hit 200 million visitors by the middle of next year. Now we have facilitators of internet radio stations wanting us to syndicate (with their support) a weekly Love For Life Radio Show which appears to be starting up shortly, possibly this week, but more than likely next week. We recently had an internet radio Skype interview with Jeanice Barcelo (www.freedomslips.com - www.revolution radio) that goes into the subject of trauma and the subtle deception that is Quantum Physics and "universe"/"universes" which come out of trauma. It provides a gateway into the insights we share as do the many videos, debates, articles, podcasts, etc, we've been posting on YouTube, Facebook, Love For Life website, etc. since 2005. We will be posting this interview on YouTube shortly and notifying everyone when its up. We plan to create a second video ASAP, be it an interview with someone or just us talking to the video camera, to fill in all the information we didn't have time to cover in the Jeanice Barcelo interview.

The Cristian Family November 2006

The Answer/Remedy Is NO SYSTEM

When we FULLY reconnect with our SENSES we already have a natural "social" way of life requiring NO SYSTEM, no man-made social-engineering, no education, no being under another MANS IMAGE-POWER. This insight goes right over most people heads as they find it almost impossible to comprehend because all they have ever known is chaos (trauma) and enslavement to that chaos (trauma). We are fighting for something we already are and already have. All that is required is that we give up "The System" of trauma. Let go, let go, let go of trauma (non-sense) and work with our SENSES. DO WE HAVE TO JUMP 10 FEET ACROSS A ROOM TO GRAB OUR NEXT BREATH? Of course not, we already have everything we need and so much more. Refer to the TRAUMA, SYSTEM LIFE & Govern-MEN-t http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8428 as behind all this chaos is TRAUMA causing us to react to "chaos" with "social-engineered "order".

Most of us are still locked in non-sense, unable to sense the intentions coming from another and this clearly demonstrates why such a vast and terrible breakdown in communication occurred between those of "civilisation" (social-engineering) recording those not of "civilisation" (tribes of MAN on land). This problem continues on between us all trying to sense each others intentions while using a non-sense language to communicate with each other.

The conditioning behind words like "social" are extremely misleading. "System" words like "social" are mostly identified with hierarchical structures and other man-made IMAGE-POWER forms of order. The more we look into nature the more we are meeting men and women coming forward sharing information past down from their ancestors pre "The System" invasion. We are also discovering facts such as the Portuguese introducing the caste "system" into the lands we now call "India" somewhere around the mid 1400's/1600's and that before the caste system was introduced there were ONLY tribes/families of MAN spread out for thousands of kilometres.

When we learn to disregard what "The System" his-story/her-story tells us how to think and feel and act about our history we learn to reconnect with our ancestral ways/roots that have nothing to do with "The System" his-story/her-story of the "dark ages" or "cave man" or neanderthal man" or "wars" or "evolution" or "carbon dating/time" or the misleading wonders of "ancient civilisations", etc, etc.

Basically, all this Freemasonic/Satanic recorded history in any read and write alphabet language is severely compromised. Let's face it, were any of us present, that we remember, during the vast majority of their his-story? Can the writers of the his-story bring forward some first parties to back their stories? "Social systems is a system construct. It is when we learn to re-connect with the information of our ancestors that would have been passed down by word of mouth, through tribal tongues rather than read-and-write alphabet languages, probably through song, that we can learn the truth about how our ancestors lived. "The System" doesn't want us to remember this so it is highly unlikely that they put any of it in their his-story!

Also, the way Aboriginal "languages" were translated would have been way off the mark because they did not have the same constructs and concepts in the way they lived as those translating their communication would have been brainwashed into. How can the language of one way of life describe a completely different way of life. This is also why it is sometimes hard to describe our true capabilities and the way we sense we can live as free MAN on the land when all we have to communicate with is the dead language of"The System". Dead language because, when we use it, we are not using our senses. Instead, we are lost to non-sense when there is no sense. How do we describe what we sense with the language of non-sense? No doubt this is why there are so many "misunderstandings" between us. We end up in non-sensory story telling, repeating what others have told us.

When we are using our SENSES we are consciously connected with all of life as WHOLENESS - there is no separation causing "chaos" requiring "social engineered system glues" to bind us all together into a contrived "order", which is ALL about being under the IMAGE-POWER of another MAN.

Copied from another FB post to save "time"..............

For us, the answer is NO system, and everyone taking full responsibility for their lives - as you say, we are capable of creating what we need for abundant, truly free lives. However, we had a look at Trivium Education - we can clearly tell its flawed on many, many fronts. We use scrutiny to rout out all forms of NON-SENSE/SENSORY images/imagery so that all that is left standing is SENSE/SENSORY images. We go where the logic of truth/sense takes us - we never argue for any belief, faith or associated opinion, all of which are rooted in NON-SENSE. We have been working at unravelling all the BS and spells of "The System" since 2006. All alphabet languages are constructed out of mathematics which is derived from geometry/sacred-geometry. All three are abominations derived from black-magic and are cleverly crafted to trap the duped into fallen "states" of NON-SENSE (unconsciousness/death-to-sense).

This wonderland is designed brilliantly, cleverly trapping victims into living contrived lives that are fictionalised story-telling performances where they continue setting into motion non-sensory images that they believe are true but which will never lead them to truth and to stepping out of this man-made matrix. We see this all through the freedom truth movement. Here is a link http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8369 where you can find our videos and articles, etc, that explain all this and so much more in greater detail, if you are interested in putting the work in.

An interesting debate is the one with Raymond Karczewski http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8414 which gets very intense and we get what you mean about attacks for just disagreeing with people! We are committed to creating Do No Harm communities that are not of "The System" but are all about living as MAN co-creating with nature that we are. Everything we need is already provided for us. We created a food forest video in February this year http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A (embedded below) which touches on some of the vision of Do No Harm communities.

Trauma + System Life + GovernMENt +
True Purpose Behind Chemtrails And HAARP

By Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
1st June 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8428

The Cristian Family November 2006

Transition Shifting From Limited Liability/Responsibility
To Full Liability/Responsibility

Posted by Virginie Delame in the Love For Life Discussions Group: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=656198334409324&id=164...

Hi Christian there are interesting things on this site and i thank you for your work.However,if you want freedom then perhaps you should free yourself from the illusion that you can live and not do any harm. You live on the death of fellow life forms be it animal or vegetable. Does a vegetable have any less right to life than an animal?To truly do no harm you would have to kill yourself. But we are to selfish for that.And it looks like you have a lovely family but does multiplying your dna by three contribute to the welfare of the other life forms inhabiting the planet? Perhaps if you want freedom you should free yourself of the need to put a legal disclaimer on this site and trust that no body, person, legal fiction will sue your all capital letter corporate name that you are the agent for. What exactly are you afraid of? Free yourself of the law you purport to have a handle on. Say what you say...post what you post..and live by it. I dont see any legal disclaimers at the end of any truth speakers during the course of history. But i guess you don't want to get in trouble.. heh (: Still one of the sheeple you dont want to be.

We replied................

Thanks for sharing your views but to us you are completely lost in story-telling Virginie. All you are really doing here is trying to kidnap our characters so that you can impersonate them, which you do by the claims you have made here, making them out to be ours, of our making, of our intention, when in fact this is not true because you made them all up, they are your claims and most definitely not ours.

Also, there is no Christian here so it seems you have ended up on the wrong planet. Suggest you recheck your navigation equipment and get back on track with your out of this world wonderland journey. Maybe, and if this destination temporarily appeases your sensory indulgences ,you could visit, explore and contemplate on the information we share in many of the Love For Life articles, videos, debates, podcasts, etc, posted in this FB wall, scroll down to find them or you can go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8369

To us, it is more than likely that our original ancestors, original MAN was breatharyan and that we, the descendants co-creating MAN across many many generations, have gradually fallen from purity and sincerity of do no harm. As we are awakening in the middle of a man-made hell called "The System" and seeing how we are severely compromised with none of us, when we were children, provided with idiot friendly full-disclosure of what would become of our lives by setting trauma based non-sensory images into motion, we have taken full-responsibility to start working our way back out of this long, deep, dark dark tunnel that is "The System" and back towards the light we see outside of it that is sensory-nature/sensory-life all around us.

From Arthur's FB wall, posted a while ago.........

Peaceful Transition Through Sacrifice And Service

We feel there is an essential peaceful do no harm transition required to get all of MAN back to standing on MANS feet without reliance upon another MAN for water, food, shelter. As it stands everyone in "The System" are highly dependent and reliant on the "group mind-set" that forms "The System" of slaves providing services and benefits for the emotionally addicted slaves to "The System" (and you can put us in the same basket too). The transition is to get MAN back to relying ONLY on nature without 3rd party interlopers, intermeddlers, interceders getting in the way. The transition is a team effort with the foresight for setting all of MAN free down-the-line so that MAN is no longer dependent on slaves and masters providing services, benefits, privileges and exclusivity while being bound to contracts, rituals, procedures, conditions, rules & regulations which compromises MAN severely.

This transition is all about shifting from limited liability/responsibility to full liability/responsibility. This full responsibility is all about caring for our health, nature all around us, clean uncorrupted (pure) water and food, partner/co-creator, children, shelter, animal-friends in partnership, etc. In "The System", we are already together destroying each other - we have to come together to create peace together so that we can all have peace. We cannot live peacefully when we are islands, not taking full responsibility for the lives of those around us until EVERYONE can take full responsibility for their life, which means that EVERYONE is healed of system trauma. In "The System", we all come together to make slaves of each other - now is the moment to come together to set each other free, to live for each other's freedom, peace, joy and abundance. Once we have set each other free, we are free.

Control The Land
And You Control MAN On The Land
Displace MAN From Land
And You Turn MAN Into Slaves

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
April 2011 (Updated 14th September 2011)
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8237

The Spell Is Broken
Taking The Land To Create Kindom

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8365

"The Steps Of Kindom"
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

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Once we fix these issues, we or our children or our descendants to come, can start focusing on the even bigger picture of getting back to where our ancestors were, as breatharyan's, before they fell into non-sense images to be enslaved by them.

Also, we have no need for legal disclaimers because we operate under full-responsibility/full-liability which forces everyone/anyone, who wants to take us on, to operate under full-liability/responsibility too. We won't let any third party interlopers, intermeddlers, interceders, operating under limited liability/responsibility, get in the way and be used as shields/props of story-telling, for the benefit of hiding behind them for protection while attacking us with the determination of seeking validation & justification for their reactions to claims of trauma/story-telling harm-doing. They need to bring forward all first parties to their claims. This stuffs up ALL troublemakers trying to create a controversy where there isn't one. Our approach to do no harm is peaceful and dismantles all story tellers trying to use the semantics/constructs/story-telling of capital letters or not, or using "name" as agents-in-commerce or not. They no longer have power or FORCE in law, statute or not. We don't give a stuff about whatever shields they try to use to hide behind for protection - when you force them to come out from hiding behind shields of story-telling/trauma, the "game"/story-telling is over, that's unless they want to be clearly seen by everyone as harm-doers hell-bent on blatantly doing harm, then their intentions are exposed for all to see/witness.

All the best to you and your family
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

The Cristian Family November 2006

Trapped In Story-Telling

Karl Grubmayer implied: "How can you co-create with corporate slaves who are not aware they are corporate slaves, particularly when all they think and live for is wanting to be right, to win, to be better than others, to be first and to profit from their "story-telling"?

Karl was referring to this post we posted 11th July 2013 "We live to create freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance......etc in the lives of everyone around us so that we can have it too......... and in service/reverence for MAN/Earth/Nature, with everyone in their unique original ways living for the virtues (co-creation) of MANS love as that service in everyday practice, then we all live in paradise. This is very different to living for my freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, etc, for my land, my food, my truth, my money, my, my, my, mine, mine, mine, own, own, own, "i", "i", "i", etc, and forming an eco village/community around this self-centered attitude is no different to how everyone lives in "The System" today.

We replied to Karl...............

You can't, it's impossible because they are lost/trapped in story-telling. There is no uniqueness/originality of thought/dreams there, therefore there is no freedom, no MAN, there is no full-responsibility either because they are bound to the limited-liability, limited-limitations/responsibilities of story-telling which are just thoughts, ideas, feelings and actions made up by others telling them how to think, feel and act. These reactions to story-telling (re-presenting "intellectual property"), that is trauma based, is what constructs robots, drones, corporate slaves, fictions, persons, ego's, in-divide-u-all-s, etc, and is how the "The System" is constructed into a make-believe fantasy-world. Without getting many men and women to perform/act as the characters of Alice in Wonderland the story can't be performed. Same with corporate fictions, etc, no actors, no "system" can be set into motion - no performance of "The System" can happen." Max Igan, David Icke, etc, are just the many many snakes used to con/trick/seduce/manipulate MAN into performing the Story-Telling they peddle. Shows you how nasty, sick and devious these "story-tellers" (liars) are. They are shaping the feel good/god/oneness/cosmic-galactic "story" of the New World Order and conning others to fall into these stories so that they create the story-telling and thus are living these stories and therefore are creating the outcomes already pre-determined for them down-the-line. We have to wake everyone up to what is really going on.

Love Arthur

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Natalie Guest

you nail it on the head ... having said that, "i" is not easy to shed ...

24 July at 18:33

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Commonlyknownas Maddy

When you say David and Max are liars....do you think this is deliberate and planned ?? Or they are genuinely believing what they say and have good intentions, maybe ??...x

24 July at 18:42

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Commonlyknownas Maddy

Unaware pawns in a "game" they don't know they are playing ??

24 July at 18:47

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John T Bastiaan

We all need to come together as one not as groups of (gangs and counter gangs) Keep well my friends.

24 July at 20:06

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Arthur Cristian

Hi Maddy & Natalie, to us it's intentional/blatant. They are specifically trained for what they do. Like specific judges used in mortgage court cases to control the playing field of this game. They are trained to know the boundaries and the consequences that arise if/when combatants step outside of them. It is their job to keep contestants inside the playing field, inside the game, otherwise they lose. Is why law is so corrupt, they can't afford precedence and news of this to spread fast all-around, that's unless it suits the outcomes pre-determined by their orders/sects/fraternities/etc.

25 July at 00:01

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Natalie Guest

it sounds like studying the law is a very good investment of time, if one can make sense of it .. it is certainly not what they cover on any courses

24 July at 23:33

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Arthur Cristian

@ John, not disregarding your good intentions, coming together as "one" is actually the sameness-glue of "The System" binding everyone to the new world order. The true/correct path is WHOLENESS where the uniqueness and originality of all men, women and children is honoured, protected, encouraged and nurtured so that all of MAN co-creates Life As A Gift with NO SYSTEM coming in-between MAN and MAN and in-between MAN and Earth/Nature.

NO-SYSTEM because all of MAN claims no "ownership" over "intellectual property". It's only in claiming ownership (belief, faith and associated opinion is all about claiming ownership over "story telling") that we need man-made systems to protect what men and women claim they own and thus a man-made system (coming together as "one") binds everyone under the "same" man-made system and therefore we end up with slaves and rulers and all the other issues that have plagued us and the many generations trapped under man-made systems since this non-sense started long ago in Egypt which means "The System".

NO SYSTEM is what we all must live for if we all want to reclaim freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, no loss of uniqueness/originality for everyone/everything and no slaves and rulers or WACO scenarios, for all men, women and children. This means we have to break the "spell" of education because it is through the "story telling" that we become "educated-slaves" creating prisons/systems of our own enslavement. Outside of our ancestors being invaded, humiliated, decimated, raped, pillaged and plundered, education is the most terrible thing ever done to all of us. We were never meant to be educated which is all about being under the IMAGE-POWER of those who seek to have power and control over us. There is no other purpose for "education".

Do we have to jump 10 feet across a room to grab our next breath? Of course not - everything we need is already taken care off. We have just forgotten who we really are and what we are really part of.

From the moment of creation/inception our children already have all the truth of life embodied/encoded as their life. The FORCE behind The System" has interfered so that our children and us do not connect with our true power, gifts, skills, purpose, etc, for the dream of Life. We have all been hijacked/distracted. TRUTH does not require story-telling. Truth is already evident all around us, that's unless we keep destroying nature in all its magnificent myriad forms.

24 July at 23:52

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Geoffrey Franklin

It certainly is not easy to wake up folks that are asleep like Snow white.

25 July at 03:56

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Commonlyknownas Maddy

Thanks @Arthur ;0) x

25 July at 07:20

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Matt King

Thank-you Karl I also was struggling with Arthur on that same broad concept ... As Always Arthur/Fiona put it so beautifully .... First RESPONSIBILITY/FOUNDATION has to be seen or it still is a System Virus. story telling a Wolfe in sheep's clothing discussing iit's virus self and trying to bring in the NEW WORLD ORDER through deception/deceit/storytelling wiley ways ... from: Lynne Via matt

27 July at 05:59

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Karl Grubmayr

i am not struglig,iunderstand verry well!!!!!dont listen to you mother he he he

Monday at 23:07

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The Cristian Family November 2006

How To Create Remedy/Kindom In Present Sense

Karl Grubmayr implied: "Thanks Arthur and Fiona, This MAN comprehends but how to create Kindom? People are not able to listen. Not one. They get reactive, violent, abusive, nasty, etc. No One, everyone, this includes the educated ones. Their trauma has them be in is such a severe state they will not look at themselves, how to do what needs to be done. Max Igan and Kazinsky are perfect examples. So...... how to create Kindom? - 25 July at 11:50.

We replied...........

Hi Karl. Walk-the-talk of your standing of Kindom with those who live to walk-the-talk of Kindom too. Unless you are walking-the-talk you are not creating Kindom. The thought of Kindom is not Kindom. THE THOUGHT OF KINDOM DOES NOT CREATE KINDOM. We must give LIFE to the thought of Kindom so that it is a living/sensory-dream in present-sense. Kindom is the life of Kindom we live, that we set into motion. In our current compromised state, thanks to many many many years of intensive, moment by moment repetitive and reinforcing brainwashing, if we don't give life to Kindom in present-sense we are instead giving life to "The System" regardless of whatever other version is unfolded as the New World Order shortly.

We see Life Is A Gift and Do No Harm is the path to true freedom, peace, joy, abundance, truth, etc....... which is at the heart of Kindom/Do No Harm Communities. Unless we walk-the-talk of Life Is A Gift & Do No Harm we are completely lost in "The System" of a man-made Hell made up of self-centered men, women and children isolated from each other as in-divide-u-all-s. All requiring "The System" GLUE of "ONENESS", etc, to bind everyone together under the umbrella of a uniformed commercial code (UCC).

You are right about the extent of trauma, how deeply entrenched it is. However, if our intention is sincere and we are willing to persevere, persevere, persevere, no matter how much the trauma tells us to run away, tells us to wait for others, tells us to pass-the-buck, etc, we will get through it and create lives we dream of here and now.

Kindom starts by the way we live (set into motion) Kindom in present-sense. With Kindom in our intention, we start to co-create as best we can in our severely-compromised "state", learning, letting go, learning, letting go. This is all we can do. It is a deconstruction process of unlearning/deprogramming/letting go of all "The System" story-telling brainwashing/braindirtying we've endured thus far.

We learn to walk-the-talk by actually walking-the-talk which has us learning Kindom in present-sense, learning what it takes to walk, trying (practising) to take steps and falling over again and again and again. Our no-back-door commitment (what stand/live for) is no different. Eventually, we learn to truly live again (BE) as free MAN.

We must not wait for a story teller to come along with a system to give us peace, freedom, etc, and we have to be wary of the many, many system story tellers offering us their version of another system that has us conform and give our power away to be under another MAN's image power once more.

We have to get rid of the duality. With duality, we are thinking about Kindom, freedom, etc, which makes us apart from Kindom, freedom, love, peace, joy, abundance, etc. We have to be Kindom and create it in the lives of those around us by serving (living freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, etc, for) them.

We have to create Kindom by living it here and now, learning that we do not need any man-made system in the form of a trust or govern-MEN-t or a "star trek federation", etc, in-between MAN and MAN and in-between MAN and nature/earth.

We only get trapped in the New World Order ("The System") when we allow the story tellers to keep us believing in their duality stories/images so that we only think freedom, as a concept/construct/etc, rather than living/being it.

When we get past duality, there is nothing more to complain about; there is only the life of freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, etc, to live.

Now you have broken the spell, broken the grip the story tellers have over you.

While you are listening to David Icke, Max Igan, "Thrive", Zeitgeist", "One Earth/Planet/World", etc, you are still trapped in the spells set-into-motion by a man still reliant on "The System" and you are still not taking FULL-responsibility for your life, for living Kindom, for being peace, truth, freedom, etc, and standing up for everybody around you so that they are peace, truth, freedom, etc, too.

Listening to the shepherds/light-bearers of the NWO is no different to voting for politicians.

Being the gift of life, being do no harm creates Paradise.

Not disregarding our/your FULL-responsibility for living Kindom here and now, even on our "own", the simplest way to start Kindom is to get together with others who stand for truth, freedom, etc, in present-sense. Move to rental properties right near each other, start creating gardens together and sharing what you grow. Get into each others lives so that everyone is taken care of. Support each other's children, maintain each other's homes and pool ALL your money (no one "owns" anything - it's all shared as Kindom in practice) to get what you need from "The System" until you have the infrastructure of a living-community in place to sever all ties completely, to cause a MASS EXODUS OUT OF "THE SYSTEM". Heal each other and live for each other without contracts or conditions. Without expectations, just giving and letting go, giving and letting go, giving and letting go, giving and letting go................

Do we have to jump 10 feet across a room to grab our next breath? Of course not, everything we need is already taken care of. We just need to let go, let go, let go, let go.......... of all "The System" brainwashing and behind it, all the conditioning to trauma that has us be in a "state" of perpetual reaction to trauma and therefore trapped as the glue of "The System".

Imagine hundreds and hundreds of us coming-together living like this in present-sense.

Land isn't the problem - we are already on land, even when we are in the suburbs or apartment blocks. This is what we are doing, so come and do it with us. If you are in another country and don't have anyone around you to start doing it with, come over here to Bowral, NSW, Australia. Lets deal with visas, passports, etc, down-the-line. Creating "community immunity" in vast numbers quickly that is Kindom and spreading our immune system of LOVE-FOR-LIFE(MAN) (Life Is A Gift - Do No Harm) out and out and out in all directions is what Freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, etc, is all about, is made of.

We are not bound to countries, races and creeds; we are MAN as Earth and the whole of Earth is our paradise to co-create. When enough of us make the sacrifices and get together, we will be (ARE) strong enough to stand up to the re-presentatives of the FORCE of "The System" when they turn up, if they turn up. The more we start doing this, the more we start taking FULL-responsibility for our lives and the lives of those around us, the less and less and less we need "The System" of govern-MEN-t and its "services", "benefits", privileges", etc.

All things considered, what sacrifice is too great to make when healing Earth/MAN is at stake and sure catastrophe if we don't take action. All it is, is a change in attitude/behaviour/direction/values/etc and setting that change into motion here and now.

More on all this here:

"From Bare Dirt To Abundance"
A Year In The Life Of The
Love For Life Food Forest

(Video embedded below)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
8th February 2013
51 Minutes 46 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A

and here

Love For Links: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8369

and here

Control The Land
And You Control MAN On The Land
Displace MAN From Land
And You Turn MAN Into Slaves

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
April 2011 (Updated 14th September 2011)
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8237

and here

The Spell Is Broken
Taking The Land To Create Kindom
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8365

and here

"The Steps Of Kindom"
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

and here

Capturing Another MANS Uniqueness
A Facebook Debate With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
And Raymond Karczewski
Starting 13th May 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8414

and here

OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
27th February 2013 onwards...
Part One: http://youtu.be/Qjp_9nlrBao
Part Two: http://youtu.be/tbybeOWZ-Bc
Part Three: http://youtu.be/yOWoxH-HbVw
Part Four: coming

Love Arthur

The Cristian Family November 2006

Refuse To Re-Present The Story-Telling
Of Other Men And Women's Making

Reaction To Trauma - First party to first party, we always go where the sensory logic of truth/sense/direct-sensory-experience takes us. We refuse to re-present the story-telling of other men and women instructing/guiding/manipulating/conning us into how we should think, feel, act, live, etc, which effects everything we are sensing (touch, taste, feel, smell, hear, see) in present-sense. If we allow this sham/scam to effect us by inviting the story-teller into our lives so we can perform his/her thinking, etc, we fall under the "spell" of belief, faith and associated opinion to that story-teller.

Through story-telling we disconnect/disassociate from the direct-experience of sensory-life all-around-us, meaning, in present-sense we are no longer MAN, we are no longer freedom, no longer peace, no longer joy, no longer abundance, etc, meaning, we have given up who we really are in present-sense to be in the image/thoughts/ideas/emotions, to be the reaction of this trauma made up by others forcing us to act/perform their story-telling of "peace", "freedom", etc, NOT in present sense.

Look at how many of us are striving for freedom in the FUTURE. Instead of being peace, we think "peace", instead of being freedom, we think and fight for "freedom", "joy", "abundance", etc.

Now we are LOST in the story-telling.

The stories are many and varied, and often not obviously nasty.

For example, in response to the above post (names & websites sanitised)

She said: "Take what you can use and leave the rest - no need to pick up what is not needed or ours All the best always in abundance and joy."

We replied: A lie is a lie - a liar is a liar - if we do not use our senses to scrutinise and rout out all forms of lies and liars we can easily fall under the spell of belief causing us to set lies/liars into motion. We do this by giving life to lies/liars with our lives, innocent or not. This is the basis of MANS fallen "state" and is the cause of all forms of harm-doing. While under the spell of belief, etc, we have given up taking full-responsibility to do no harm and instead are now under limited liability/responsibility which permits the lie and liar to spread harm all-around. It spreads because we are that lie/liar spreading the harm.

She replied: "Thanks Arthur- I think what a person focuses on they magnify and I have found that everyone comes to truth in their own time and their own way -we can not force it on anyone- we can only do our part within ourselves to improve our own state of disillusion and delusion which ripples across the eathers and increases in love".

We replied: The issue is about people/us not being conscious of the images/thoughts/ideas they/we are focusing on throughout their/our waking-lives. While asleep in denial and ignorance, under the "spell" of belief, etc, we are causing immense harm in present-sense.

She replied: "I am much more calmer and feel very much loved - like a great wave of emotion has bathed me in beautiful loving warmth and friendship all around (heart) (F) (hug), this is not everyone's path Arthur we are very fortunate to be here NOW and to have each other (heart)".

We replied: The virtues of love includes confrontation - it's all in the intention to do no harm. Apathy is a major sickness in MAN today, the gossamer spray that is the story-telling of "love" and "peace", etc, turns MAN into a pathetic wimp, a MAN gutless and afraid to stand up and say NO to harm in all its forms. But not only stand up, but to back it all-the-way until harm has been completely dissolved. An immune system compromised is a very sick MAN.

He replied: "Are you saying if I understand you correctly speaking of Love and Peace is a wimpy thing?".

She replied: "You sound very angry Arthur and that will never increase your joy (heart)".

We replied: No anger here - you are just story-telling.

He replied: "Perhaps the path for you this time round is to discover that which is the essence and core of creation. At times we express the opposite of what we truly yearning for... that being love".

We replied: Fiona Cristian: Read again (names sanitised).

She replied: "We have a very tight nit family here Arthur that operates with tolerance and love and we do not call each other names although we do discuss issues and share our views in a very loving manner- I invite you to join us in the weekly round up and we can share our views together (heart)".

We replied: More story telling (name sanitised). Best not try to kidnap this MANS character by impersonating it so that you can make claim over this MAN with claims you have made up about this MAN, claiming they are coming from this MAN when in fact they are only coming from you, you made them all up. This is the basis of fraud and slander. No offense intended, just sharing facts/truth.

He replied: "Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. You seem very angry at the world, tough living from fear. May you find Peace, as for those who may never understand it they will always try defend their pain. Have a lovely day and may you discover your truth either in Light or darkness, after all life is about choice".

We replied: (names sanitised), the story-telling of your wonderland will not have you sense this MAN. This MAN, Arthur, is not in your story. Step outside of this non-sense to sense this MANS intention/presence/life, etc.

We replied: So its OK for both of you to take pot shots at Arthur and then ignore Arthur by writing him off as an angry man, etc????

She replied: "(heart) Yes we are all amazing even when we act otherwise (heart)".

We replied: While acting "ugly" we forget the "amazing" we are so that in present-sense we are setting harm into motion without no way of stopping it. Reality is quite different to fantasy and illusion.

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In the original post we also wrote this at the end....

ps: watch out for David Icke, he is a full-on re-presentative of the FORCE behind "The System". To us, his new tv/radio show is a direct attack on MAN - we are now upping our tempo on the net to counteract this agenda. Nice sweet tasting lollies wrapped and marketed beautifully containing a little, nasty poison, nice smiling politicians kissing babies, nice friendly smiling banking commercials with banksters shaking hands with duped innocent lambs to the slaughter, etc. We are drowning in niceness all around. We are being destroyed by niceness. It only takes one lie/liar to do all the damage. David can be very charming but it is the charm of the snake charmer.

An immune system compromised is a very sick MAN. True love is strong and stands up to harm. True love does not "accept" harm and excuse it as being "not my reality". True love does not back down until harm has been completely dissolved.

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

The Cristian Family November 2006

GOD MEANS FULL-RESPONSIBILITY/LIABILITY

To us, the word "God" or creator or living-creator really means/implies FULL-RESPONSIBILITY/LIABILITY. We say that MAN IS God IS Living-Creator which means THE BUCK STOPS WITH US but this all falls apart when we become lost in the story-telling of belief, faith & associated opinion of a "God" apart from us/MAN, now we are under limited-responsibility/liability because we have passed the buck to a "higher power" than us/MAN. This story telling, based in duality, is the brilliant craft and practice of Freemasonry/Satanism at play. Instead of God they now use words like "one" or "oneness" or "divine" or "universal consciousness" or "astrology" or "astronomy" or "science" or "judge" or "politician" or "president" or "prime minister" or "queen" or "emperor" or "caesar" or "bank" or "stock market" or "economy" or "executive" or "ceo" or "person" or "money" or channeled matthew/ramtha/kryon/galactic federation of light/etc, or "global warming" or "alien invasion" or "mayan calendar" or "bible", or "time", etc, ............ there are many many many thousands of these pass-the-buck lies circulating as part of man-made alphabet languages causing MAN to set these false-images/idols into motion and thus fall under the influence of these story-telling lies that are "spells" of black-magic. Watch out for story-tellers as there are many many thousands of these Freemasons/Satanists conning MAN/us to fall into their stories to become actors in plays/pantomimes of their own making, that being "The System". Refer to Love For Life articles, videos, debates, etc, for more on this subject http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8369. Scrolling down this Facebook wall is helpful too.

All the best - Arthur

The Cristian Family November 2006

Controlled Opposition

Due to controlled opposition, we are extremely vigilant and discerning when these type of scenarios come about. The NWO is "The System" under another guise, it will look something like Star Trek Federation in Nature. The NWO will be brought in by all the "Good Guys" bringing a new "oneness order system" to the present chaos engineered by the "Bad Guys". As many of you already know we life/stand for NO SYSTEM. We will do everything we can to expose and obliterate any idea or concept, sugar coated or not, that supports "The System", a man-made system under any guise. We know all the trickery going on to give the "duped", the impression that "serfs/commoners" are making headway with the courts of "The System". For more on this please read our recent reply to Max Igan here: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10201394869221762 - We've already posted this video before but we thought we would put it up again.

Sarah McLeod - OPPT is a fraud. The truth from the horses mouth: Neil Keenan - Published on Apr 23, 2013 - An extended interview with Neil Keenan in Jakarta, Indonesia, in which he reveals just what a dangerous game the One People's Public Trust (OPPT) was attempting to play with people's lives and freedom - not only in Indonesia, but around the world. It is, however, a game that has been shut down, as Keenan tells how OPPT went from one Global Accounts scammer to another (Adnan Sahkli, White Spiritual Wonder Boy, and now UN Swissindo) hoping to find someone to fund their totalitarian revolution - a phony movement that gives every appearance of being the bankster cabal's attempt to co-opt the real and profound global awakening that spells the end of their control. "We had to be devious in the beginning" said one OPPT principal in a taped call that was sent anonymously to Keenan. Now Keenan simply warns them that their arrests are likely imminent....and warns people longing for freedom not to buy into the OPPT "rose garden" false promises of instant wealth. Help is on the way...from global humanitarian programs funded (with the blessing of the nations) from the Global Collateral Accounts.

Part One

Part Two

The Cristian Family November 2006

Love For Life Background

Briefly, for almost 20 years until 2005, Arthur built an office automation sales & services business with few dollars and no background experience to start with. Over the years, while going up and down financially, we employed many hundreds of staff and turned over big $$$$. Then in 2005 we were attacked by organised crime led by banksters which led to the theft of the family home worth $1.2m, and the destruction of two cash flow businesses leaving us close to destitution and poverty caring for four young daughters. Everything we worked for and owned was stolen. This fraud was protected by judges, barristers, lawyers, politicians, priests, media representatives, etc. What shocked us the most was that there was no "community immunity", no tribe or community prepared to stand up to what was going on.

So, with no experience, we decided to take on the crime syndicate and wake people up to what was going on while working out why "community immunity" did not exist. Thus began the Love For Life campaign in March 2005 and the www.LoveForLife.com.au website in December 2006.

What we have experienced since starting Love For Life....... there have been many many terrible things said about us, including descriptions of horrific things they would like to do to Fiona and the children. We have experienced humiliation, ridicule, abuse, hatred, Fiona being kidnapped, break and enter attempts, 4 assassination attempts on Arthur and 12 death threats to the family. Close supporters, a married couple in their 70's were hog tied, hooded, a bullet put through the man's hip and both tortured for hours. We have experienced extensive big brother surveillance in every way imaginable including being followed everywhere and helicopters hovering overhead. On two separate occasions swarms of police, detectives, sheriffs, tow trucks (up to 16 of them providing attention to a non-violent family who carry no weapons, live a do no harm path and who have never broken the peace or caused a crime or injured anyone) came to our rental family home to steal family assets such as the family car, and then, after collecting the stolen car from the pirates auction, we had a very large squad of police harass, intimidate and threaten us repeatedly on the long journey back home.

But we leave everything, warts and all, out in the open on the Love For Life website, YouTube Channel www.youtube.com/arthurloveforlife & Facebook Walls www.facebook.com/arthurcristian for all to see because we have nothing to hide and nothing to be ashamed of. We are not the problem. TRUTH stands. We have not changed except to get stronger and stronger and stronger. We do not see what other people say and do as being our problem when it comes to this stuff - it is what we do and how we behave/live that we are responsible for. They will have to kill us to stop us.

Since March 2005, all our Love For Life work has been done for free, all given away as gifts to benefit others. There are no conditions or contracts attached. And poverty and destitution still lingers nearby for us but we are not in fear of this; we keep living the dream of Love For Life because there is nothing else for us to live for.

We are now learning to be professional songwriters, producers, engineers, singers, etc, to spread the many insights we have connected with since 2005. We know very little about making music hands-on and Arthur, now 55, could not sing until his voice started opening up last year without lessons or practice. Then gifts started rolling in from supporters and we started accruing audio production hardware & software listed here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8459. Audio technology with its jargon is extremely intimidating but we are not giving up. We realise we need lots of help to complete all links to the unbroken chain. What we have to offer is a vast range of lyrical content that is far from your average love song, all set to a story-telling landscape of music that has its base in the late 60s and early 70s but is not limited to a particular genre.

The themes we touch on can be considered controversial but we write with great imagery. A current 9 minute song we are working on is about paedophilia and child sex rings/gangs. It is set to a dreamy landscape of psychedelia with strong melodic hooks to capture all the reactive moods of trauma. We write about factual themes and ones that we have direct experience with, the point being to bring such subjects to people's awareness and inspire them to walk away from this system of harm and abuse to co-create peaceful lives for all. We are looking to work with people who want to help support Love For Life by helping with recording and production. We do not do this for money and are not looking for contracts. With support from others with professional skills with programs such as Powerpoint, we plan to create audio-visual driven seminars, talks and workshops. Eventually we want to create documentaries, too. Love For Life is at the forefront of a team-effort grassroots movement without leaders or followers and without links to "The System" or societies, secret or not.

As amateurs with very basic equipment and some help from a friend in August 2011, we wrote & recorded "Save Our Lives" as a rough demo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMgcLqO7VrQ - We plan to record/produce it professionally later this year. We've come a long way since then. We have over 100 inspired songs to record and are keen to collaborate with others to help spread the Love For Life work.

All the best
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

The Cristian Family November 2006

The Thought Of Freedom Is Not Freedom

First party to first party, we always go where the sensory logic of truth/sense/direct-sensory-experience takes us. We refuse to re-present the story-telling of other men and women instructing/guiding/manipulating/conning us into how we should think, feel, act, live, etc, which effects everything we are sensing (touch, taste, feel, smell, hear, see) in present-sense. If we allow this sham/scam to effect us by inviting the story-teller into our lives so we can perform his/her thinking, etc, we fall under the "spell" of belief, faith and associated opinion to that story-teller. Through story-telling we disconnect/disassociate from the direct-experience of sensory-life all-around-us, meaning, in present-sense we are no longer MAN, we are no longer freedom, no longer peace, no longer joy, no longer abundance, etc. We have given up who we really are in present-sense to be in the image/thoughts/ideas/emotions, to be the reaction of this trauma made up by others forcing us to act/perform their story-telling of "peace", "freedom", etc, NOT in present sense.

Look at how many of us are striving for freedom in the FUTURE. Instead of being peace, we think "peace", instead of being freedom, we think and fight for "freedom", "joy", "abundance", etc.

Now we are LOST in the story-telling.

The stories are many and varied, and often not obviously nasty.

For example, in response to the above post (names & websites sanitised)

She said: "Take what you can use and leave the rest - no need to pick up what is not needed or ours All the best always in abundance and joy."

We replied: A lie is a lie - a liar is a liar - if we do not use our senses to scrutinise and rout out all forms of lies and liars we can easily fall under the spell of belief causing us to set lies/liars into motion. We do this by giving life to lies/liars with our lives, innocent or not. This is the basis of MANS fallen "state" and is the cause of all forms of harm-doing. While under the spell of belief, etc, we have given up taking full-responsibility to do no harm and instead are now under limited liability/responsibility which permits the lie and liar to spread harm all-around. It spreads because we are that lie/liar spreading the harm.

She replied: "Thanks Arthur- I think what a person focuses on they magnify and I have found that everyone comes to truth in their own time and their own way -we can not force it on anyone- we can only do our part within ourselves to improve our own state of disillusion and delusion which ripples across the eathers and increases in love".

We replied: The issue is about people/us not being conscious of the images/thoughts/ideas they/we are focusing on throughout their/our waking-lives. While asleep in denial and ignorance, under the "spell" of belief, etc, we are causing immense harm in present-sense.

She replied: "I am much more calmer and feel very much loved - like a great wave of emotion has bathed me in beautiful loving warmth and friendship all around (heart) (F) (hug), this is not everyone's path Arthur we are very fortunate to be here NOW and to have each other (heart)".

We replied: The virtues of love includes confrontation - it's all in the intention to do no harm. Apathy is a major sickness in MAN today, the gossamer spray that is the story-telling of "love" and "peace", etc, turns MAN into a pathetic wimp, a MAN gutless and afraid to stand up and say NO to harm in all its forms. But not only stand up, but to back it all-the-way until harm has been completely dissolved. An immune system compromised is a very sick MAN.

He replied: "Are you saying if I understand you correctly speaking of Love and Peace is a wimpy thing?".

She replied: "You sound very angry Arthur and that will never increase your joy (heart)".

We replied: No anger here - you are just story-telling.

He replied: "Perhaps the path for you this time round is to discover that which is the essence and core of creation. At times we express the opposite of what we truly yearning for... that being love".

We replied: Read again (names sanitised).

She replied: "We have a very tight nit family here Arthur that operates with tolerance and love and we do not call each other names although we do discuss issues and share our views in a very loving manner- I invite you to join us in the weekly round up and we can share our views together (heart)".

We replied: More story telling (name sanitised). Best not try to kidnap this MANS character by impersonating it so that you can make claim over this MAN with claims you have made up about this MAN, claiming they are coming from this MAN when in fact they are only coming from you, you made them all up. This is the basis of fraud and slander. No offence intended, just sharing facts/truth.

He replied: "Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. You seem very angry at the world, tough living from fear. May you find Peace, as for those who may never understand it they will always try defend their pain. Have a lovely day and may you discover your truth either in Light or darkness, after all life is about choice".

We replied: (names sanitised), the story-telling of your wonderland will not have you sense this MAN. This MAN, Arthur, is not in your story. Step outside of this non-sense to sense this MANS intention/presence/life, etc.

We replied: So its OK for both of you to take pot shots at Arthur and then ignore Arthur by writing him off as an angry man, etc????

She replied: "(heart) Yes we are all amazing even when we act otherwise (heart)".

We replied: While acting "ugly" we forget the "amazing" we are so that in present-sense we are setting harm into motion without no way of stopping it. Reality is quite different to fantasy and illusion.

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In the original post we also wrote this at the end....

Ps: watch out for David Icke, he is a full-on re-presentative of the FORCE behind "The System". To us, his new tv/radio show is a direct attack on MAN - we are now upping our tempo on the net to counteract this agenda. Nice sweet tasting lollies wrapped and marketed beautifully containing a little, nasty poison, nice smiling politicians kissing babies, nice friendly smiling banking commercials with banksters shaking hands with duped innocent lambs to the slaughter, etc. We are drowning in niceness all around. We are being destroyed by niceness. It only takes one lie/liar to do all the damage. David can be very charming but it is the charm of the snake charmer.

An immune system compromised is a very sick MAN. True love is strong and stands up to harm. True love does not "accept" harm and excuse it as being "not my reality". True love does not back down until harm has been completely dissolved.

The Cristian Family November 2006

Transition

We live to create freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance......etc in the lives of everyone around us so that we can have it too......... and in service/reverence for MAN/Earth/Nature, with everyone in their unique original ways living for the virtues (co-creation) of MANS love as that service in everyday practice, then we all live in paradise. This is very different to living for my freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, etc, for my land, my food, my truth, my money, my, my, my, mine, mine, mine, own, own, own, "i", "i", "i", etc, and forming an eco village/community around this self-centred attitude is no different to how everyone lives in "The System" today. All else is a distraction stopping us from creating this. The reaction to trauma is this distraction that stops us. In everyday "System Life", there are millions of distractions showing up as story-telling. This is brilliantly executed/implemented by the Freemasonic/Satanic-world and almost everyone is asleep to it.

We feel there is an essential peaceful do no harm transition required to get all of MAN back to standing on MANS feet without reliance upon another MAN for water, food, shelter. As it stands everyone in "The System" are highly dependent and reliant on the "group mind-set" that forms "The System" of slaves providing services and benefits for the emotionally addicted slaves to "The System" (and you can put us in the same basket too). The transition is to get MAN back to relying ONLY on nature without 3rd party interlopers, intermeddlers, interceders getting in the way. The transition is a team effort with the foresight for setting all of MAN free down-the-line so that MAN is no longer dependent on slaves and masters providing services, benefits, privileges and exclusivity while being bound to contracts, rituals, procedures, conditions, rules & regulations which compromise MAN severely. This transition is all about shifting from limited liability/responsibility to full liability/responsibility. This full responsibility is all about caring for our health, nature all around us, clean uncorrupted (pure) water and food, partner/co-creator, children, shelter, animal-friends in partnership, etc. In "The System", we are already together destroying each other - we have to come together to create peace together so that we can all have peace. We cannot live peacefully when we are islands, not taking full responsibility for the lives of those around us until EVERYONE can take full responsibility for their life, which means that EVERYONE is healed of system trauma. In "The System", we all come together to make slaves of each other - now is the moment to come together to set each other free, to live for each other's freedom, peace, joy and abundance. Once we have set each other free, we are free.

Control The Land
And You Control MAN On The Land
Displace MAN From Land
And You Turn MAN Into Slaves

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
April 2011 (Updated 14th September 2011)
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8237

The Spell Is Broken
Taking The Land To Create Kindom

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8365

"The Steps Of Kindom"
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

The Cristian Family November 2006

No System Required

When we FULLY reconnect with our SENSES we already have a natural "social" way of life requiring NO SYSTEM, no man-made social-engineering, no education, no being under another MANS IMAGE-POWER. This insight goes right over most people heads as they find it almost impossible to comprehend because all they have ever known is chaos (trauma) and enslavement to that chaos (trauma). We are fighting for something we already are and already have. All that is required is that we give up "The System" of trauma. Let go, let go, let go of trauma (non-sense) and work with our SENSES. DO WE HAVE TO JUMP 10 FEET ACROSS A ROOM TO GRAB OUR NEXT BREATH? Of course not, we already have everything we need and so much more. Refer to the TRAUMA, SYSTEM LIFE & Govern-MEN-t http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8428 (above) as behind all this chaos is TRAUMA causing us to react to "chaos" with "social-engineered "order".

Most of us are still locked in non-sense, unable to sense the intentions coming from another and this clearly demonstrates why such a vast and terrible breakdown in communication occurred between those of "civilisation" (social-engineering) recording those not of "civilisation" (tribes of MAN on land). This problem continues on between us all trying to sense each others intentions while using a non-sense language to communicate with each other.

The conditioning behind words like "social" are extremely misleading. "System" words like "social" are mostly identified with hierarchical structures and other man-made IMAGE-POWER forms of order. The more we look into nature the more we are meeting men and women coming forward sharing information past down from their ancestors pre "The System" invasion. We are also discovering facts such as the Portuguese introducing the caste "system" into the lands we now call "India" somewhere around the mid 1400's/1600's and that before the caste system was introduced there were ONLY tribes/families of MAN spread out for thousands of kilometres.

When we learn to disregard what "The System" his-story/her-story tells us how to think and feel and act about our history we learn to reconnect with our ancestral ways/roots that have nothing to do with "The System" his-story/her-story of the "dark ages" or "cave man" or Neanderthal man" or "wars" or "evolution" or "carbon dating/time" or the misleading wonders of "ancient civilisations", etc, etc.

The Cristian Family November 2006

The Maze Of Language

Basically, all this Freemasonic/Satanic recorded history in any read and write alphabet language is severely compromised. Let's face it, were any of us present, that we remember, during the vast majority of their his-story? Can the writers of the his-story bring forward some first parties to back their stories? "Social systems is a system construct. It is when we learn to re-connect with the information of our ancestors that would have been passed down by word of mouth, through tribal tongues rather than read-and-write alphabet languages, probably through song, that we can learn the truth about how our ancestors lived. "The System" doesn't want us to remember this so it is highly unlikely that they put any of it in their his-story!

Also, the way Aboriginal "languages" were translated would have been way off the mark because they did not have the same constructs and concepts in the way they lived as those translating their communication would have been brainwashed into. How can the language of one way of life describe a completely different way of life. This is also why it is sometimes hard to describe our true capabilities and the way we sense we can live as free MAN on the land when all we have to communicate with is the dead language of"The System". Dead language because, when we use it, we are not using our senses. Instead, we are lost to non-sense when there is no sense. How do we describe what we sense with the language of non-sense? No doubt this is why there are so many "misunderstandings" between us. We end up in non-sensory story telling, repeating what others have told us.

When we are using our SENSES we are consciously connected with all of life as WHOLENESS - there is no separation causing "chaos" requiring "social engineered system glues" to bind us all together into a contrived "order", which is ALL about being under the IMAGE-POWER of another MAN.

For us, the answer is NO system, and everyone taking full responsibility for their lives - as you say, we are capable of creating what we need for abundant, truly free lives. However, we had a look at Trivium Education - we can clearly tell its flawed on many, many fronts. We use scrutiny to rout out all forms of NON-SENSE/SENSORY images/imagery so that all that is left standing is SENSE/SENSORY images. We go where the logic of truth/sense takes us - we never argue for any belief, faith or associated opinion, all of which are rooted in NON-SENSE. We have been working at unravelling all the BS and spells of "The System" since 2006. All alphabet languages are constructed out of mathematics which is derived from geometry/sacred-geometry. All three are abominations derived from black-magic and are cleverly crafted to trap the duped into fallen "states" of NON-SENSE (unconsciousness/death-to-sense).

This wonderland is designed brilliantly, cleverly trapping victims into living contrived lives that are fictionalised story-telling performances where they continue setting into motion non-sensory images that they believe are true but which will never lead them to truth and to stepping out of this man-made matrix. We see this all through the freedom truth movement. Here is a link http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8369 where you can find our videos and articles, etc, that explain all this and so much more in greater detail, if you are interested in putting the work in. An interesting debate is the one with Raymond Karczewski http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8414 which gets very intense and we get what you mean about attacks for just disagreeing with people! We are committed to creating Do No Harm communities that are not of "The System" but are all about living as MAN co-creating with nature that we are. Everything we need is already provided for us. We created a food forest video in February this year http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A which touches on some of the vision of Do No Harm communities.

Trauma + System Life + GovernMENt +
True Purpose Behind Chemtrails And HAARP

By Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
1st June 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8428

The Cristian Family November 2006

Too Many Chiefs And Indians

The fact is, not withstanding all the brainwashing and damage under the image power of another man's version of system life, and we think that most reading here would agree with this, we already are living creator (god- chief), we are already gifted in God's/living creator's (Chief's) likeness/image and have everything we need to create the lives we dream of and take full responsibility for our lives and for creating paradise for all to experience. We don't need leaders and followers, chiefs and indians. We are all chiefs and, if we are taking full responsibility for our lives and our tribes, we are all indians too. Can you comprehend that a true chief has never been under another MAN, has never been "educated" or forced under the image power of another MAN? This is at the heart of paradise.

The problem we keep seeing, is that everybody is trying to make indians out of chiefs and chiefs out of indians, to have others be under their image power, which is what "The System" is all about. This is what we have to work on - not sabotaging each other's uniqueness/originality, meaning we are not undermining the chiefs that we are and making us less than that. We are the true power but we have turned into petty, nitpicking, bickering re-presentations of MAN, none of whom have the guts to stand up and be who we really are as MAN, not reliant on any other MAN or any system, allowing people to be the chief and indian they are without being a slave or a ruler and without interfering while we work together.

Learning not to react or feel insulted or attacked or powerless when others speak what they are thinking and perceiving is part of being MAN healed from trauma. Under the image power of "The System", chiefs have been turned into wimps. They tell us there are 7 billion of us now but hardly any of us are chiefs, not reliant on anything except the life (water, living food, shelter) they are part of. Read "Control The Land And You Control MAN On The Land Displace MAN From Land And You Turn MAN Into Slaves" link posted below.

Most of the 7 billion are in chicken coups, producing eggs for their masters and squawking about their living conditions while not doing anything to take responsibility for their living conditions. Useless food eaters indeed - consumers of materialism and superficiality. Very few are living otherwise.

Paradise is being able to visit chiefs wherever we go, MAN of MAN creating unique lives of no harm, and being able to experience the full glory of the chiefs and how they live. This is very different from visiting Raymond in his caravan, plugged into "The System", surrounded by harm and reliant on slaves and rulers while he claims to be a Christ (chief). The only way we can reach our full chief potential is when we have land to care for where we can take full responsibility for our lives without having to answer to anybody else's expectations (thought control). When you are a chief, you are not under anyone else providing you with everything, you do not need contracts with councils or power companies and you do not need the shops to provide you with food and comforts.

We are not trying to tell people how to live (create) their lives, only pointing out the present pathways of harm that only lead to more harm and more harm and never to paradise. Most people are too lost to create their lives as chiefs because they are too busy following the navigational directories others have written for them. This is image power and Max Igan and One People are just a continuation of that image power.

Raymond, you have said nothing new to us. To us, co-creating paradise is paramount. Taking full-responsibility for that to happen is beneficial for everyone. With us, we live for no system because, once there is no more power and control over land, we all can have access to land to take full responsibility for our lives. There is room for everyone. We have already explained all this over and over and over again so we won't offend the "under 500 words" crowd by repeating it. Info can be found here: "The Spell Is Broken - Taking The Land To Create Kindom" & "The Steps Of Kindom": links provided below.

In reference to this present exchange with Raymond Karczewski & Max Igan here: Link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10201394869221762 - we replied to Raymond:

You missed out something here Raymond - the creation of our lives as MAN - do you sense them?

It seems you are only interested in promoting the creation of your life, Raymond. What seems to be happening here is that we are surrounded by people wanting us (everyone) to fit into their boxes. We shouldn't write so much is a common complaint - what if we just have a lot to say and try to communicate it as clearly as we can?

Is that a crime?

Is that Satanic mirroring?

And then our replies are knee-jerk, defensive, etc. As we have said over and over, who among you is here with us so they can see us getting angry, reactive, face saving etc? There is already so much stuff around about us, both negative and positive and we are past trying to please everybody. We are not worried what people think. We are not attached to the outcomes. We cannot force others to want to create paradise. We just put information out there so that those who want to can be inspired to find their own unique ways to co-create paradise. Like the sun that shines constantly, we do what we do for a purpose.

But.......sigh....all this has already been said over and over so what can we conclude from that? Either that no one reads what we write and makes the effort to comprehend what we are saying or we are completely oblivious morons with absolutely no idea about who we are. Yes, there are obviously those who would agree with that and that is fine, and maybe some of those people who think we are doing it all wrong and should be doing it according to x, y and z should come and live our lives for us, raise the children for us, walk the dogs, run the hectic household, take care of the gardens, take over the website, write all the articles and posts, answer the phone calls, greet the visitors, wear our clothes, etc, so that they can be sure that everything is done according to their expectations and instructions so then Arthur and Fiona Cristian will fit into the boxes required. Then they might as well dig holes for us and put us in them because there will be no reason for us to have a life anymore.

And no doubt this reply will be written off as knee-jerk, defensive, etc, but actually we are laughing at the absurdity of people who continually want to change who we are so that we act according to their navigational directory of acceptable thought processes and acceptable expression of those thought processes so we don't get "lost" and arrive safely at the destination they have pre-determined for us, something Raymond does again and again. Will the penny drop? And as for attacking Max, we didn't remove the FB friendship, we have no gripe against Max and he is welcome to visit anytime as are Raymond, Brad and all other detractors. Just give us warning so that we can polish the throne and get Arthur dressed in his ceremonial robes, with the collection box alongside (cheques/postal orders made out to Fiona Cristian) and please be extra generous if you would like a personal blessing from Arthur. Only takes about 16 hours to get everything in place.

So yes, we get what you all say, we just don't agree and we will continue to do what we see best as long as we have the energy to do so. Maybe we are wrong about everything we do. Well, if we are, then maybe others will learn from our mistakes and we will still have been useful in showing others what not to do and they will go ahead and create paradise for ALL, showing us the error of our ways as we see nature healed and restored and living MAN once again walking undisturbed through the food forests across Earth.

Let's see if Chief (Christ) Raymond's navigational directory of acceptable thought processes and acceptable expression of those thought processes so we don't get "lost" and arrive safely at the destination Raymond has pre-determined for us, kicks in again.

Link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10201394869221762

Regarding Raymond's Facebook Wall: https://www.facebook.com/raymond.karczewski.9 - To us, what is very clear here is your ongoing attempt to plaster your Facebook wall with more and more lies about us Raymond. It's becoming pathetic. All correspondence we've been experiencing with you since 13th May 2013 is posted here http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8414 so that everyone who comes to your Facebook wall can see the bigger picture coming from all sides. We are shortly to complete our final instalment to the exchange we had with Raymond "Capturing Another MANS Uniqueness" and we will post it on Raymond's Wall and here:

Capturing Another MANS Uniqueness
A Facebook Debate With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
And Raymond Karczewski
Starting 13th May 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8414

All the best
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

Max Igan & The Fraud Of The OPPT
(One Peoples Public Trust)
Facebook Discussion With Arthur & Fiona Cristian
17th to 19th February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8357

Control The Land
And You Control MAN On The Land
Displace MAN From Land
And You Turn MAN Into Slaves

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
April 2011 (Updated 14th September 2011)
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8237

The Spell Is Broken
Taking The Land To Create Kindom

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8365

"The Steps Of Kindom"
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

The Cristian Family November 2006

A System Remedy Is Not A Remedy

Max Igan sent us this Facebook PM Wednesday 2nd July 2013 16.07pm: "Hopefully this REALITY will give you pause to question your actions before spreading lies, hatred and false information about others in future Arthur... have a nice day brother. :) https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10151533809384022&id=1... "

We replied....................................

Max, the issue here is we stand for NO SYSTEM. We will do everything we can to expose and obliterate any idea or concept, sugar coated or not, that supports "The System", a man-made system under any guise. The NWO is "The System" under another guise, it will look something like Star Trek Federation in Nature. The NWO will be brought in by all the "Good Guys" bringing a new "oneness order system" to the present chaos engineered by the "Bad Guys". We know all the trickery going on to give the "duped", the impression that "serfs/commoners" are making headway with the courts of "The System".

Having some mini "slave victories" is allowed by FORCE. If they want covert control to remain in tact, they can't always be seen to be despotic/overt. This is allowed to happen and besides, the FORCE behind "The System" have planned, when it suits them and when they are ready, to cause the present western world system to completely collapse so they can usher in their next "oneness" version of it. As an example of many: One Peoples Public Trust now called One People.........

ONE PEOPLE

ONE SPIRIT

ONE WORLD - World means "The System" - the world is not Earth/Nature.

ONE HUMANKIND - Hue-MAN - a shade/colour/reflection/shadow of MAN - In this case the reflection/image projected by a MAN upon another MAN is "oneness". The intention is to trap a MAN under another MANS image-power/spell which happens when a MAN believes in the "story-telling" (spells) of "oneness". This is blatant social engineering.

MANKIND/HUMANKIND - means a kind of MAN as in monster, monstrosity, distorted, brainwashed, idiot, fool, robot, clone, drone, slave, etc. We are MAN, all unique and original, not one the same as the next. Mankind/Humankind re-presents a shattered reality.

ONENESS means SAMENESS as in Communism and Socialism - The correct word to use here instead of one/oneness is WHOLE/WHOLENESS (meaning: NO SYSTEM) which recognises the uniqueness and originality of all of MAN without conformity to social engineering which "oneness" (sameness) is all about.

"One" is lineal, has a beginning and an end (finite), therefore is trauma based (explained further down), is a lie, believers commit fraud when they claim "one"/"oneness" is true. "One" is projected, based, imagined in/from the past and in/from the future (explained further down). "One" does not exist, is non-sensory, meaning you can't sense "one", you can only fantasise "one" because "one" is not present with the presence of life embodied in its image to sense (touch, taste, feel, smell, hear, see) it. Thanks to trauma, "One"/"Oneness" re-presents a shattered reality.

Note: Children brought up in the "wild" by "wild dogs", etc ("The System" brainwashing calls them "wild animals" in the "wild" of nature as in dark, scary, hostile, not safe environment), who are discovered and brought back to "The System" (civilisation) do not recognise the reflection of themselves in the mirror. These reflections are seen in "3rd person" and until "The System" brainwashing sets in they always communicate in 3rd person This is exactly what we would all do if we were truly conscious (not brainwashed) because there is no 1st or 3rd person. All is WHOLE. However, from "The System" side of looking through the window of our extensive repetitive, pounding, brainwashing we see everything of 3rd person as 1st person, i.e, "name" on birth certificate, drivers license, "one"/"oneness", etc, believing these reflections is who we really are when in fact these reflections are not who we really are. Someone else trained us to think, feel and act in this way. Again, recently a Russian girl, around 11 years of age was discovered. She was brought up by dogs from around age 3. She did not recognise her "i" (eye) in the mirror and communicated in 3rd person. If she was with her family of MAN living in the "wilds" and raised by tribal-MAN all around her and without "The System" brainwashing she would be a living WHOLE example of conscious-living-MAN on land in present-sense. Currently, for those of us really waking up, it may appear to the brainwashed that we are talking in 3rd person about Nature, Earth, MAN, Life, but when we are using our senses we sense/see, in present-sense, that we are air, water, leaves, trees, birds, wind, sunlight, rain, dogs, mountains, river, Earth, Nature, Life, etc, etc.... The first party/person "i","i", "i", "mine", "mine", "mine", "own", "own", "own", "one", "one", "one", etc, (shattered reality), does not exist and without it there is no 3rd person ("i"/"one")) either because we are already WHOLE, meaning we are already the unique and original of that WHOLENESS.

See this article but remember it is written by the brainwashed and references everyone brainwashed called "experts", "scientists", etc... Always use your senses and go where the logic of truth takes you that are the insightful jewels found amongst the voluminous garbage of non-sensory images. Always be on the look out for non-sensory/non-sense images and rout them all out because they are trauma based, are lies, and are blatant "story telling" made up by other men and women telling us how to think, feel and act = IMAGE POWER.

http://www.ranprieur.com/readings/wildthings.html

All these "successes" that you are seeing, and will continue to see, are part of the orchestrated plan, the blueprint, the agenda. Many of these victories, with a vast majority still to come, require a team effort of actors (judges, barristers, lawyers, politicians, priests, experts, plants portrayed as heroes, etc, etc), all in on the scam to dupe the people into believing, now and down-the-line, that the "bad guys" world is collapsing and the "Good Guys" are winning. Unless we keep waking the people up, the duped will not see/sense they have been had, got-at & set-up. They will not see/sense how they have been deceived into accepting "THE SYSTEM" GLUE of "oneness" binding them all together as "one people", "one spirit", "one consciousness", "one system", etc, etc.

This is not the first time those of "The System" have collapsed one version of "The System" and brought in another version (the phoenix rising out of the ashes - order out of chaos). They need to have the "bad guys" exposed by the "good guys" (hello Heather) so that we all start looking around for something better but very few wake up to the fact that the "something better" is just the next version of "The System" the duped are blindly being led into, with the same image-power-based families behind the scenes, the heads of the Star Trek "Federation in Nature".

We all know that they cannot use overt means to keep us under control. There are too many of us and they would have to be in constant struggle against us because we would rebel. So they use covert means to guide us into submission through propaganda that plays on our trauma, causing enough reaction in us to keep us malleable and enslaved. The marketing campaign for their 1000 year Golden Reign is obviously not going to come about with overt displays of force. Far easier to get us wanting, asking and longing for their 1000 year Golden reign. It's not as if the Knight's Templars have not already done this many times before, coming out as the heroes to rescue us from slavery, tyranny and oppression.

We don't see anything here that has not been done before with different processes. There are many "successes" in all areas of protest using law. Why? Apart from occasions where magistrates, etc, are just not good enough to think fast on their feet and deal with clever men and women who have done their homework, when we have and see successes, we are encouraged and think we are on to something and keep investing more and more of our energy into our processes which means more and more of our energy into "The System". Do you think they care?????? So long as we are still putting our energy into "The System", they are happy because it is our energy that keeps "The System" going. We have already explained this to you in great detail. They do not care how much we protest and argue just so long as we keep using their information, sleeping in their houses and using their private corporations. Which is what everyone involved in One People is doing. They are all still plugged in.

We could start bragging about the many successes Arthur has had against "The System", some involving $300k to others where tens of thousands of dollars were spent trying to get Arthur (and Fiona) to pay the SDRO a measly amount of $$, but these victories are still not a remedy that gets everyone out of "The System". With the method that Arthur has developed over the last couple of years, NO PAPERWORK is required. He is strong and smart enough to blow them all out of the water really fast. Recently, even the SDRO have sent him a letter offering Arthur to take back his drivers licence... LOL... all this after trying everything to con Arthur (and Fiona) into contracting with them. Refer to Letter Received From Roads & Maritime Services Offering Arthur Cristian His Drivers License Back - LOL - 11th June 2013: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8450 - If it wasn't for the children and the 4 assassination attempts, Arthur would be journeying on the road without plates, licence or anything and they would have to kill him to stop him, but, at present, the family does not have the support it needs for him to do this without leaving them vulnerable. And even then, being a Ned Kelly is not a remedy, which is why we prefer to focus on what we can do to bring about remedy as soon as possible.

Why no system? Because when you peel back all the layers, the dark heart of "The System" is all about trauma; trauma is behind everything of "The System", even the "good" bits. There is nothing in "The System" that can help us return to lives as conscious MAN on the land or help us create freedom, truth, joy, etc, for ALL, not just those who can do the paperwork. "The System" is all about greed and selfishness - it is what we are indoctrinated into and it is only by turning our backs on EVERYTHING of "The System" that we can remember who we are and begin the de-programming.
A lot of our Love For Life work is about exposing all the tricks of those behind "The System" so that we don't all follow along blindly down their Yellow Brick Road.

We were all once tribes of MAN on land, living with NO SYSTEM. This is where we have to return if we want true freedom, freedom from trauma. As you can see if you are willing, Max, what's going on with One People is only showing us who is taking the first steps down the Yellow Brick Road, who is still caught up in the codes, squiggles and digits, in the past and the future of System Life.

You said, "Hopefully this REALITY will give you pause to question your actions before spreading lies, hatred and false information about others in future Arthur... have a nice day brother."

What we are doing, Max, is exposing everybody who wants the system in any guise because anything to do with "The System" is lies, deception, hatred and false information and all of it is trauma based. This is why we live for no system. You have yet to say that you live for no system. Everyone who is connected to this deception will want "The System". Can you let everyone know where you stand on this, Max?

For more on trauma refer below.

All the best
Arthur & Fiona Cristian

Taken from this post:

"The System" & Everything Of It
IS Rooted In TRAUMA
Our Conditioned Reactions To TRAUMA
Is What Constructs "The System"

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
1st July 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8449

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Max Igan replied again Wednesday 3rd July 2013 00:59

"Arthur, referencing yourself to "elucidate" on what you say is the height of egotism and not one single thing in the essay I skimmed over that you posted above justifies the lies, the hatred and the falsehoods you so readily created about me... you need to wake up because all you are doing is perpetuating division... I would never post hatred of another.... and even with the lies you posted about me (having never met me) I never even responded, because I have more respect for life than that.... in fact your own actions speak volumes about the you that you will not face... but anyway... the oppt did what it was supposed to do... it provided to tools for those who choose to step away from the system, to do so... the thing that has stopped more people doing so, are people like you who have a vested interest in maintaining the fight and the fiction for their own agendas ....people like you ARE the system...

and arthur, in order to create a kin domain, you need to first free the people of earth... and buying into your property in the mistaken and fictional belief that one can actually own part of the earth is simply stupid and circumvents the REAL issue completely... wake up brother

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Arthur Cristian

These words "hatred", "lies", "egotism", "falsehoods", "division", etc, are just claims made up by you MAX. They are all lies. All you are attempting to do is create a controversy where there isn't one. You are trying to kidnap/hijack our characters so that you can impersonate them, claiming these claims are our intentions, coming from us, when in fact they are your claims (lies), you made them all up. You seem to really enjoy practising black magic as in remote viewing, remote control and remote projection. Are you psychic Max? Do you have a third eye? Our conscience is very clear. When it comes to your claims, we have nothing to be concerned about.

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Arthur Cristian

Max said "and arthur, in order to create a kin domain, you need to first free the people of earth... and buying into your property in the mistaken and fictional belief that one can actually own part of the earth is simply stupid and circumvents the REAL issue completely... wake up brother".

We never made such claims Max. These are not our intentions. They are not the path you claim we are traversing.

01:12

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Max Igan sent another PM

they are not "claims I made up" arthur they are an obsevation of your actions and the lies, hatred and false information you created and posted about me... people like you and the bullshit and hatred you peddle are a HUGE part of the problem because your own actions show you have a heart as black as coal

anyway, Im not interested in any long discorse with you as you are way too narcissistic to ever truly see the obvious. I just wanted to demonstrate how utterly wrong you were and how the OPPT's UCC filings have actually been helping people. I dont hold any hatred, jealously or anymosity towards you, as you do towards me and as you have amply demonstrated with your hate videos and disinformation campaigns and wish you well. ... I just wish you would wake up and start working for positive change rather than helping perpetuate division to serve your own agenda.

Don't bother replying as I have no interest in conversing with you past this point unless you happen to wake up from the illusion you are living in

Wednesday 3rd July 2013 11:13

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Arthur Cristian

Then you are saying (claiming) you have lived with us, have had private, 1st party to 1st party dealings (direct experience) with us on an ongoing basis to know from direct experience who we really are? What you have posted here, these images, are of your own making Max and we don't buy into them. They live ONLY with you, there maker.

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Max Igan

no, Im basing my opinion of you on the unwarranted lies, hatred and false information you have spread about me without knowing one single thing about me... and just think Arthur, we could have been friends, however you chose the path of lies, anymosity and self promotion at the expense of others... pity

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Max Igan replied (after he received the posts on Trauma, System Life & Govern-MEN-t) from us.

lol... another essay referencing yourself to back up what you claim?... lol...damn you have to be the most self absorbed person on this planet Arthur...
yeah trauma is trauma ...and false information and lies directed at another to serve a personal agenda, is false information and lies directed at another to serve a personal agenda... and you sir are a nasrcissitic idiot

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Arthur Cristian

This is Fiona here Max with Arthur. Why are you so keen for a fight? You do not have to like what we say. We have no problem with that. Why don't you go and do some more One People promotion, as that seems to be the way you see to create paradise for all without leaders and followers? Unless you do not want paradise for all.

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Max Igan

Well Fiona, I think you should be asking yourselves those questions as Im not the one who posted lies, hatred and disinformation about a fellow researcher,... that was you.. it was you who decided to start the fight.... from this message, you are obviously just as sarcisstic, just as bent on division and the perpetuation of the system to serve your own agenda, and just as bent on establishing your cult and as quite obviously just as black hearted as Arthur

over and out

16:14

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Arthur Cristian

All lies are a curse - all liars are cursed - with us the makers of curses/lies are forced to process and amplify them exclusively with no way out until they make whole with those they intended to harm or have harmed.

16:27

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Max Igan

then, as you have clearly stated, you are cursed
goodbye

16:31

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Arthur Cristian

Then you have nothing to be concerned about.

3 July at 18:03

The Cristian Family November 2006

The Thought Of A Christ Is Not A Christ

Raymond, we would never claim that we are fully conscious MAN, free from the influence of the brainwashing of "The System", thinking unique thoughts inspired by the dream of life. This is the case for the vast majority of us across Earth; we are still compromised and still under the influence of our conditioning as we wake up to what we have allowed to happen to who we are. As many of us are realising more and more, all our thoughts of awakening, and our discussions and debates about our awakening, while helping us get clearer about truth and what our awakening means, are not the same as living as awakened, fully conscious MAN.

All of us involved in these discussions, whether actively or just through reading, are still plugged into "The System", still relying on it to provide for us in many areas. If we were fully conscious MAN, we would be communicating with each other through our senses rather than through satanic alphabet languages, equipment, services, materials and consumer products. If we were fully conscious MAN, we would no longer be plugged into "The System".

So where does this leave you, Raymond?

You claim to be a Christ, but in present-sense you are not living the life of a Christ. A Christ is what we call a fully conscious MAN setting the life of that consciousness in motion so that the presence of this consciousness (Christ) is present in present-sense. As you have said before, "The thought of God is not God". Well, the thought of a Christ is not a Christ, either. We cannot be Christs while we are still plugged into "The System", still supporting "The System" and especially while we are calling for a "better" system. A true Christ does not need a man-made system. At present, you do, Raymond.

A true Christ senses his/her brothers and sisters of life and feels their intentions, senses their lives in present-sense, whether agreeing with them or not. Under these present circumstances, when your brothers and sisters come to you via the internet, etc, Raymond, they are met by your mirror that is the conversation (thoughts) going on ONLY between your ears that they have to enter into to converse with you. With us, you try to trap who we really are in the mirror of your making that is constructed ONLY out of your thoughts.

Your mirror is not "another level of consciousness"; it is just constructed from your thoughts and you refuse to see anybody except through the thoughts of your mirror. You are trying to embed who we are in your mirror which makes you trapped in the mirror of your own thoughts. This is an example of the Satanic trap that binds MANS' lives to it. When you converse with us through your mirror, you are setting the boundaries for our interaction, bringing us into your conversation. This is Satanic ruled consciousness. Your mirror is a claim of your making that goes against everything you are saying. It is intellectual and limited in scope. Repeat, ONLY your thoughts of us are in the mirror of your own making.

Our challenge is how to learn to live with each others differences by becoming more empathetic and learning to sense each others intentions. When we sense each others intentions we are now outside the power and control structure of an individual (in-divide-u-all) satanic ruled intellect.

Our challenge is to learn how to set into motion ideas that change the way we live so that we stop causing so much harm to who we are. You are still trapped in the idea of being a Christ still plugged into "The System" and criticising us for setting into motion the idea of living without a system of harm. We cannot "be in this world but not of it". While you are living in "The System" you are of "The System" because your life energy is still maintaining and perpetuating "The System". While you are still plugged in to "The System", you are feeding "The System". While you continue being plugged into "The System", presently via your caravan, it is clear that you are both of "The System" and in "The System".

It is not just ideas that are responsible for hell on Earth. Ideas are just ideas. It is MAN setting those ideas into motion (giving these images LIFE) and maintaining and perpetuating them that is fully-responsible for hell ("The System") on Earth and we are fully-responsible for creating Paradise on Earth if we choose to. We cannot escape thought. Everything is a thought in a thought; it is the choices we make about what thoughts to give life to (set into motion) that determine our lives. The fabric of the dream of life is a thought of many thoughts all threaded together by the thread of life MAN/Living-Creator set into motion. It is MAN weaving the fabric of life. DNA is the thread of MANS thought being set into motion (given LIFE) by MAN.

Imagine that you had 100 photos in front of you. You pick them up, one after another, looking at the images and putting them back down again. Then you pick up one that appeals to you. Instead of putting it back down, you pore over it, taking every detail, thinking about what you see. Now, if the image you see really affects you, you may decide to give life to it by creating that image in your life. It could be a picture of far off countries that inspires you to save up your money and go travelling, it could be a beautiful house that gives you ideas for redecorating your home, it could be a photo of a sports star that gets you out of bed in the mornings to get fit, or it could be a baby gorilla orphaned by poachers that has you pack up and volunteer with a rescue organisation. Or it could be an image of a sustainable, living home surrounded by a food forest with no signs of any harm to life that has you begin to withdraw from "The System" back to a life as fully conscious MAN. The images we choose to give life to (set into motion) become the world (LIFE) we live in.

Yes, ideas are fantasies (reflections) and your mirror is an idea, a fantasy, reflection of your own making, a dualistic (duel-i-stick-c) idea that you try to trap people in. Your mirror is of the intellect of your reflection so how can it reveal truth if truth only comes when the intellect is silenced. In your case, how can it be silenced when it still bounces to and fro between your ears as a reflection of your own projection?

We all have our unique thoughts, that are "private", more or less (to us, what "private" really means is that we each have, or were supposed to have had, unique original thoughts of our making, of our dreaming, of our dream-time, stimulated and inspired by the sensations of Nature/Earth/Life/MAN that is the dream of life all around us). It is when we try to impose our thoughts (dreaming) on others (MAN), to capture them (MAN) in the reflections of our thought projections by claiming that we know more about them than they do because of our thoughts about them, that it all goes wrong. What we are now describing IS the artificial DNA that weaves the non-sensory-fabric that is "The System" and this is how we create drones and robots.

How can we know the true intentions of others when we cannot hear them above the noise of all the reflections of our thoughts? When we use our senses, we can communicate with someone from another culture who does not share our alphabet language because we sense their intentions and use sign language, etc. We do not need to trap them in our alphabet language reflections which is what we all do to each other through English and other Satanic engineered alphabet languages.

You talk about the resurrection of the "spirit of divine awareness"? What are the practical steps for setting this "spirit of divine awareness" into motion in our everyday lives? Isn't it all about empathy, compassion and sensing the intentions of others so that we learn to live without doing harm to others, without trapping others in the reflections (mirror) of our thought projections (dreaming)?

To us, it is clearly obvious that honouring, protecting, encouraging, inspiring, nurturing, supporting, etc, (all the virtues of love) the uniqueness and originality of MANS dreaming is paramount, that every MAN needs to have that creative "space" of love to dream their unique lives into motion. To us, this is the practice of the "spirit of divine awareness" in everyday, practical, doable sense. If all our ancestors were not trapped in the reflections (intellectual thought control) coming from other men and women manipulating and interfering through their enFORCED projections of how we should be thinking, feeling, doing, living, etc, their descendants, us, would still be living in Paradise. But that ain't the case, we're currently too busy being distracted, entertained, compromised and trapped in "The System" that was given birth by another MAN'S dreaming.

The photo you have chosen to give life to, Raymond, is the photo of you in your caravan, keeping everyone at arms length with your mirror, talking about setting into motion a new govern-MEN-t, a new system. How does this stop the harm? Along the way, we have examined many, many photos and the one we keep coming back to is the photo of Kindom because it is the only one that we have come across that puts an end to the harm, an end to the dualistic lies through the living demonstration of non-dualistic truth.

This is what we are about, Raymond, but, like everyone else, we are compromised and still reliant on the dual(duel)-istic system. We would love to stop duelling, to learn to live together without harm, without fighting and bloodshed, to inspire enough people to take full-responsibility to stop setting the images of harm (dreams of another MAN) into motion, to put down the photos of harm and pick up the ones that heal the damage. You do not say you want to do harm but neither do you say you want to live with no harm.

Your mirror is a dual/duel because you claim it is non-dualistic but then you insist on putting other men and women into it, without their permission. Why don't you just keep your mirror for you rather than imposing it on others? This is a dual/duel; why are we in your mirror? Why can't you see/sense who we really are outside your mirror? Leave us outside your mirror and recognise us for who we are, just as we do for you. This is the "spirit of divine resurrection" in process, the intellect silenced, the "dual/duel", the power struggle, gone. Why are you "arguing over every jot and tittle"?

Your release from hell comes when you give up your mirror (with your CHRIST in it) and honour the uniqueness and originality of another MAN.

You talk about giving up the lies but you are still living a lie. Your caravan is a lie and your use of "The System" is a lie and your support of the continuation of slavery through a new, "better" govern-MEN-t is a lie. Your caravan and other trappings of "The System" are the "cultural clutter" that you surround yourself with. Getting out of "The System", i.e., co-creating Kindoms, is getting "beyond the influence of Satanic thought". You are still holding up the photo of "The System" and giving it your life. Why don't you put that photo down and give life to the idea of the living Christ that you are (that we all are), free from the influence of Satanic thought and free from doing harm?

A Christ is a conscious, living MAN who does not put another MAN under the images of his thought; why then are you putting us in your mirror under the labels of face-saving, paranoid, disturbed, etc? Can we bring out the Arthur and Fiona from your mirror and find out from them whether they are face-saving, paranoid and disturbed? This is the illusion you are creating in your mirror. It is only your thoughts of us that are in your mirror, not us or our thoughts of us. You, with the shield of your mirror, are unable to discern (sense) who we really are.

You claim that the reflection in your mirror is truth. Can we hear that from the reflection? Can we hear from the reflection of Arthur and Fiona that it is truth and that Raymond knows our intentions (our dreaming) all the while he disregards our intentions? Are you practising black-magic remote projection, remote viewing, remote control? Here in "Bowral", "NSW", "Australia", are you in the room with us while we struggle to "save face"?

We are the living, Raymond. In present-sense, we are MAN that is Living-Creator (God) that is the resurrection of the divine spirit of truth, just as you are. MAN is the living truth that is always with you. However, the thoughts of Arthur & Fiona Cristian that you have, are just thoughts. We are not trying to put you in a mirror, we are not labelling you and your responses. We honour both the living-MAN(creator), Raymond, and the work he does, at the same time as pointing out that we do not see a remedy in it. When you sense us, you are sensing the presence (LIFE) of the living MAN (creator) present to you in present-sense. Your thoughts of us are not in the picture, are not involved. There is no mirror here. But when you create a mirror, it is of your thoughts; we (the living) are not there.

You perceive that things are wrong and explain your perceptions very clearly but you are not prepared to do anything to change the disturbed, traumatised, natural environment around you. When are you going to give life to your perceptions? If you want to bring heaven on Earth, can we come and see how you are living it as a shining inspiration for others? When are you going to give life to your work (set thoughts into motion) so that everything around you (LIFE) changes?

We have seen the illusion of the photo we have been holding and how compromised that image makes us. We want to pick up another photo that shows MAN living in nature, out of the grip of "The System", taking full responsibility for our lives, no longer educated slaves. The Satanists don't want us to walk away because without us, they have nothing. You say truth is beyond the limited scope of the Satanic intellect. We agree. So let's start putting into place the way of life that gets us there.

26th June 2013

All the best
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

Note: The thread of this debate on Nigel Beckwith's Facebook wall is posted in its entirety within another lengthy debate we've been having with Raymond Karczewski. See:

Capturing Another MANS Uniqueness
A Facebook Debate With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
And Raymond Karczewski
Starting 13th May 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8414

A final instalment to this debate (Part 2 & Part 3) will be coming from us shortly, hopefully later this week. Reading this debate fills in the details of the bigger picture we see/sense and touched on in this post.

The Cristian Family November 2006

Raymond Karczewski Posted This Comment
In A Debate On Nigel Beckwith's Facebook wall:

Link: https://www.facebook.com/nigel.beckwith/posts/10200170425611396?comment_...

16th June 2013 8.54am

nb = Nigel Beckwith
rk = Raymond Karczewski

nb: "It may not be popular, but the truth is, we have to work hard together with Ego under control if we are to make a difference in this world. That is the only way."

rk: < It is impossible to change anyone else but yourselves. Therefore it is impossible to change the world ruled by thought. That is the satanic trap which binds men's souls. It is that enslavement to satanic thought which is demonstrated when men argue with one another about the validity of their images and illusions, ghostly spectres which captivate their conditioned ego driven intellects. One must step out of such satanic ruled consciousness to "be in this world but not of it." Speak only Truth and you shall be seen as an enemy of the Civilized World.

nb: > We are always influencing each other Raymond. It happens all the time. The reason the Satanic world works like clockwork..for them is because they DO work together. Just what do you expect to happen? When we change ourselves do we change our surroundings? I mean be clear and say how you expect to get out of this trap? Looking after No 1? Or trying to raise your own consciousness, and then that of those who have ears to hear?

rk: Nigel, your focus is intellectual therefore limited in scope. A hundred people working together based on an ideal, is not any different from One whose life is lived on an ideal. Ideals are satanic illusions. All Ideas are fantasies, be they positive or negative. They are dualistic mechanisms which make for division, conflict, violence, power. It is responsible for Hell on Earth --NO EXCEPTIONS.

rk: The release from such hell comes only with the resurrection of the Spirit of Divine Awareness, Truth, once the intellect is silenced. Why continue with all this nonsense of arguing over every "jot and tittle." when all you have to do is mirror the dualistic lie with nondualistic Truth.

rk: Here is how you change yourself and therefore your world. From this moment forward until the moment of your death, NEVER TELL ANOTHER LIE. Not a Black lie, nor a White lie. Nor a lie of ommission. Nor do you support any lie. You BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT LIES. Do that, and you are FREE, BEYOND THE INFLUENCE OF SATANIC THOUGHT.

rk: When the lie is not, the illusion is not -- TRUTH IS. I assure you, that YOU WILL RAISE HELL WITH THE WORLD AROUND YOU. Have you not seen that clearly demonstrated in damned near, just about all of my relationships with others on the Internet? Why is that? We use the same language, don't we, the same words, yet my energy disturbs their status quo of belief padded cubbyhole in hell, does it not?

rk: You see, Nigel, and all others reading this, the Lie, is the basis of the Civilized world, ruled by a Satanic thought-based Intellect.

rk: I acknowledge that is is a given that we must use Intellect to solve technical problems and to communicate through language with other intellects, but it is only the Christ, the simple man/woman of Truth who is master of his/her own Intellect, while all others remain slaves to their satanic, dualistic, opposing, outer directed/conditioned intellects -- the computer-like instrument which makes up their CULTURAL view of the world.

rk: You've heard the adage, "You can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear." Nor can you or anyone else make a Master out of a Slave.
Such transition comes only when the lie is seen for what it is and falls away only to reveal what has been previously hidden from view by all the cultural clutter -- TRUTH.

rk: Truth is unassailable, invulnerable to harm from attacks by Illusion. It just pisses pompous satanists off when their illusions are reflected back to them by the simple "Mirror of Truth". That is the only change that can come about in a relationship between the mass mind of satanic illusion and a simple man in resonance with holistic Truth.

rk: Many view me as a pompous "knowitall" In their conditioned, complexity, but ignorant-ridden state of dualistic confusion, they are incapable of discerning the simple, nondualistic energy of a man of Truth.

rk: The satanic ruled intellect must be silenced for the Resurrection of the Divine Spirit of Truth, God to reveal itself. Truth, God is always with you, but has allowed Satan, the "petty god of Intellect" to seduce you away from it with promises of Illusions which are fleeting at best when one comes to understand the eternity which is life.

rk: Arthur Cristian, a good man, stands proudly when he demands first party proof of Truth that cannot be proven but remains self-evident to the spiritually sensitive, the spiritually sighted. Arthur stubbornly remains at the intellectual level of the "Idea of Truth," a mechanical, dead concept which he shares with lawyers, other wordmeisters, and manipulators of such images which can and is indeed, subject to proof. Truth is well beyond the limited scope of the Satanic Intellect and therefore is immune from the slings and arrows of Illusion.

rk: That is what is meant when a Christ, a Simple Man/Woman of Truth states that he/she "are in this world, but not of it."

rk: Nigel, I hope this clarifies a few things for you.

The Cristian Family November 2006

How Many Visitors

We created 3 OPPT YouTube videos to explain the bigger picture (they are intentionally long-winded), links provided below. A 4th OPPT video was made in March as well and has been sitting in limbo awaiting us to finish a 9 minute piece of music (Pink Floyd like song) that got sabotaged due to faulty new equipment forcing us to re-record the whole project (sigh).

Through gifts received (everything we do is through gifts received) we not only created a food forest garden demonstrating how to grow a vast amount of abundance in small spaces (YouTube link provided below "From Bare Dirt To Abundance" posted Feb 2013) we are also building a professional standard home recording studio to record/produce over 100 inspired songs we've written.

Without being compromised The Love For Life website broke mainstream in mid 2007. A few years ago we were told by a software engineer systems analyst working in the military industrial complex that out of 140 million or so websites up on the net and based on traffic flow the Love For Life website was sitting around position 144,000, which means it's sitting below the 1% mark right up there with the big boys biting their ankles. Another fella around that same time showed us a software method to view traffic occurring on a day to day basis on Arthur's Facebook wall. During a two week period Facebook was saying anywhere between 20 thousand and half a million browsers had visited Arthur's Facebook wall on a daily basis. The ability to monitor this traffic flow was stopped by Facebook not long after we were running this software. We still are not sure if we were being misled/deceived or not by this software.

However, recently we were contacted over the phone by the head of a group of private "freedom-truth" investigators and researchers who told us that over a 4 hour period and from a 100 different locations across Earth, all using different ip addresses, they clicked on the same Love For Life video posted in Arthur's YouTube channel: OPPT And Slavery........ part 1. The head was monitoring the click counter over a 24 hour period and noticed that it had only gone up by three clicks. Including 20 other videos created by others found on different YouTube channels, none related to Arthur's work, all who were posting truth (not compromised) information, they performed the same experiment over and over again during a two week period and found similar click count results. We (Fiona and Arthur) have always sensed there was a problem with YouTube click counters and it was great to have this confirmed by a bunch of strangers who we have never met. We still don't know who they are or where they are from. It's obvious why those behind YouTube are messing with click counters, they don't want the general public to see the popularity of such work spreading and spreading. What a bunch of idiots, as if messing with click counters is going to stop truth from spreading all around or even stop us from continuing. We don't give up, we are relentless in spreading Love For Life work and we don't get concerned about click counts either, we create, release and move on to the next create and release, and then we create and release again and again and again. Whether click counts go up or not does not matter to us, we are not emotionally attached, even if only one MAN watched our videos, this will not shape our attitudes. Through the blowtorch of scrutiny, we always go where truth takes us, we refuse to argue/protect beliefs and statistics. Lets see how beliefs stack up - they always get demolished. Truth does not require belief, faith or associated opinion.

The Cristian Family November 2006

The Hidden Codes

David Icke stayed in our family home for 1 week back in 1996. He knows us just as Jordan Maxwell and so many others out front of the freedom, truth, consciousness awakening, alternative, etc, movements know us. We've corresponded with many of them over the years,mostly instigated by them. Almost ALL of them (thousands of them) are working against all of us. Why and How? Let's chat over Skype/landline or give up heaps of your waking life to dive into Love For Life articles, debates, videos, etc.

During that week, everyday Arthur was around David Icke looking after him, driving him around here and there, Arthur kept having periods of terrible sick gut feelings as if he was going to buckle over and enter into a horrible state of convulsion. He kept thinking something was wrong with him. It was not until 2005 when the court case over the theft of the family home started that we learnt about the secret codes (meanings) of every English alphabet letter. A script analysis was done on David's book "The Truth Shall Set You Free" and BINGO out leaped in every page another language blatantly written in code for those initiated into "seeing" them as in "all seeing" (eye = i). We were shocked and in denial for up to two weeks until we realised what was really going on...... "We Will Lead Every Revolution Against Us". We rang David overseas and confronted him about how he knew these codes and why was he (or whoever is writing these books with him or for him) using them throughout his book. He refused to answer, fobbed us off and ignored us until two years or so ago when he wrote to us again. Through email (we keep all correspondence) we again asked him about how he learnt to use these codes? He refused to answer.

The layman who came into our lives back in 2005 to share his 35+ years researching old autobiographies written by archbishops, bishops, etc, during the 1700's/1800's, found that the bibliography sections contained extensive information about the codes (meanings) of the English letters. These books are almost non-existent now. They've almost all been removed. The craft of making the new English alphabet language back in the 1200's was called the "New World Language". This elderly layman also researched very old Thesaurus and Oxford Dictionaries as well. Those terrible sick-gut feelings Arthur was getting around David was just like the "Lost In Space Robot" calling out "Warning Warning Warning Will Robinson",........ it was consciousness through our ancestors in the water of our breath warning Arthur about David. The New World order is being led in by the "Good Guys" who are providing a path-way (cure) to all the chaos caused by the "Bad Guys". The current chaos of harm and terrible corruption, destruction, etc, is not part of the New World Order, it is the remedy to this engineered chaos that is the NWO which really is "The System" under another guise. The "Good Guys" work together behind the scenes with the "Bad Guys". They all come out of the same Freemasonic/Satanic orders, clubs, sects, fraternities, societies, etc.

Things are not what they seem with David Icke (and so many others like Benjamin Fulford, Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, Kevin Annett, Brian Gerrish, Project Camelot/Avalon, Thrive, Peter Joseph/Zeitgeist, etc, etc).

The Cristian Family November 2006

TRAUMA

By Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

1st June 2013

Trauma needs to be healed sufficiently in all of us so we can continue progressing fearlessly towards our collective do no harm community/paradise on earth objective. What we've been learning through direct experience over these last 8 years is staggering. The depth of trauma is so extensive that hardly any of us know how to live without reaction to trauma, in one form or another, shaping the decision making which forms the outcomes of our lives from sunrise to sunrise. So totally absorbed are we by the trauma of our past and the trauma that we perceive in the future, that we have barely a moment to consider, contemplate on and be conscious of the present, here and now. We are so caught up in the false idols of codes and symbols, in squiggles and digits and fictitious values, that cause us so much reaction, so much stress, that we are incapable of being present as we are swept along in the story telling of those codes, squiggles and digits that may or may not rescue us. The whole of "The System" is trauma based and is a man-made hell. We are not of hell yet we are so compromised by it. We are determined to inspire MAN out of hell so that Earth is again the living paradise it was dreamt to be. Getting MAN out of hell is a huge team effort.

SYSTEM LIFE

If someone hurts us, we feel the trauma of that hurt, of that intention that has been imposed upon us. The trauma that reverberates in us is not of our making. What is of our making, what we do have control over, is our reaction to that trauma. Do we allow it to possess us, living our lives out of it, or do we move on from the trauma, healing our bodies and brains/senses, so that we can let go of the trauma and get on with our lives? The same applies with "System" thought control or the IMAGE-POWER another MAN has over us. Most of us are spellbound by the re-presentation of thoughts, ideas, images made up by other men and women, none of them uniquely created by us, having us trapped in the perpetual reaction of a vicious cycle mirroring the gruesome, pounding repetition of our system education, going over and over and over the constructs and concepts of "The System" in their alphabet languages so that they become habit. But these constructs and concepts are not us - they are the trauma of a SYSTEM LIFE that has been forced upon us, that we are compelled to react to, making us robots as we perform the clockwork of the programming of system life. We are no longer MAN, we are SYSTEM LIFE.

"The System" of men and women who live for and follow its instruction forces trauma upon us but it is up to us how we react to that trauma so then you could call it "trauma created from "within"", the "within" being just the echo of a residual memory of harm. But, the fact is, if a man rapes you, he is forcing trauma upon you, even though you have a choice how to react to this trauma. However, we recognise the wholeness of life and even though each aspect of sensory life, inanimate or not, tiny or not, is unique and original, we sense that there is still no separation of life which means that any trauma forced upon any aspect of life is trauma for all of life that has to be healed by all of life. It is trauma that gives us (MAN) the compelling-emotion of separation, disconnection from life that is Nature/Earth/MAN.

The reaction to harm upon sensory LIFE/MAN causes the illusion of separation as MAN reacts to the effect of trauma upon MANS life. It is this illusion which "The System" is constructed out of........ ALL OF IT IS TRAUMA BASED!

Re-Presenting "intellectual property" that are thoughts, ideas, images, made up by other men and women telling you how to think (react), feel (react) and act (re-act), is clear evidence of the effect of trauma and its purpose designed by the intender.

Where can innocent children, not exposed to "The System" or to anyone exposed to its brainwashing education, go anywhere in nature to learn about trauma, with its illusion of separation, without anyone (MAN) having to explain it to them or force them to experience it?

From our perspective, the best thing we can learn from the damage caused by "The System" is how not to repeat the damage. That is its only real benefit. There is nothing else to learn because all the empathy, compassion, strength, etc, we feel we have learned from the damage are actually qualities we naturally possess but which have been crushed out of us by our SYSTEM LIFE. We are struggling to get back what we already have! Let's create lives for those around us so that they don't have to be crushed. It does help to get off the grinding roundabout of our SYSTEM LIFE stories of pain, suffering and brainwashing because they do not free us.

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

The Cristian Family November 2006

GovernMEN-t


By Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

1st June 2013

When we live for and focus on Govern-Men-t we continue to support the enslavement of MAN under government. When we live for and focus on Kindoms of Food Forests we continue to support the freedom of MAN. It was when MAN left Food Forests of Kindoms that MAN became a slave under government. Food Forests sets MAN free because we are no longer under the Image-Power of another MAN telling us how to think, feel and act.

Each of us provided with the full-responsibility for caretaking of a Food Forest allows us to be unique and original MAN because we have created unique and original thoughts inspired by nature all around us - that is ALL that we know. There is no other MAN educating us to be under their IMAGE-POWER.

What now stands before all of us is the choice of a "SYSTEM to live for; we either live for a man-made system of govern-men-t or we live for a natural system of Food Forest Kindoms. With the choice of government we give up our power to be under limited liability; living on land is now controlled by others dictating to (educating) us how to be a MAN on land, how to think, feel and act as a hue-MAN in their world, under their IMAGE-POWER. We have given up our "rights" to be free - we are no longer unique and original MAN. With the choice of Food Forest Kindoms we live by FULL-Responsibility to do no harm to Food Forests so that we do no harm to MAN living in those Food Forest Kindoms. We live for the co-creation of Food Forest Kindoms that is a team effort of MAN recreating Food Forest Kindoms to set each of us free to live by full-responsibility for everything we think, feel and do.

Kindom is a team effort where the best of land is for the benefit of all of our tribe/Kindom/village/community to enjoy and all other "lesser" land is turned into hectares (2.5 acres is more than enough space of land for each family to take responsibility for - 1/3 for home, 1/3 for gardens of space and 1/3 for a food forest joining all other food forests of their Kindom). With Kindoms, we help each other build our shelters/homes and gardens so that we can all be set free from being under govern-MEN-t forevermore.

For more on Food Forest Kindoms read "The Steps Of Kindom" and "The Spell Is Broken". Links can be found here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8369

All the best
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

The Cristian Family November 2006

A Facebook Post

23rd June 2013

Link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10201336766849239

Andrea Smith said:

"I Don't Think Many People Live Without The System, We Live In A House Or Unit, With Family, We Drive A Car, car insurance, health insurance etc We Pay Taxes. Anyone Who Claims Not To Be In The System Will Not Reply To Any Of This As They Will Not Have Electricity Or A Computer. It Would Be Rare For Someone To Just Leave Everything, Go Bush And Live Off The Land. I'm Sure You Are Still In The System, I Am Still In The System."

We replied..............

Yes, as a severely compromised family we are still in "The System". Even though Arthur no longer has any contracts with "The System" since early 2009, he is still relying on Fiona and others who do. Getting out of "The System" is a very big step, especially as most of us cannot really imagine how that would be!

However, we realise that getting out of "The System" is the only choice for freedom which is why we have been pushing so very hard since 2006 for "The Steps Of Kindom" REMEDY and with it, "The Spell Is Broken".

But nothing will happen unless there is enough of us immensely hungry, determined and FEARLESS to make it happen in present-sense.

Refer to the thread below "Richard Thompson said: "This sounds like the new age un agenda 21 sustainable bullshit and because of that i did not watch it...": https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10201318155743973 with our replies to Brett Anderson who we respect heaps BUT who appears to be like almost everyone else, not hungry or determined enough to do something about it here and now.

The inconveniences that will arise in actually doing something will arise no matter what the circumstances may be when and if we decide to do something in present-sense.

The "God" of APATHY and PASSING-THE-BUCK rules supreme.

Most of us are kept in line through the extensive trauma conditioning we've been hammered with, clearly designed to stop us taking FULL-RESPONSIBILITY to create the essential steps we MUST all take here and now to move away from the grip of fear our "System" masters have had over us and and our ancestors going right back to when they were conquered and broken down into slaves.

The trauma is so all-pervasive and powerful that it has an immense hold over us making us extremely greedy and selfish, driven by the fear of trauma and of the inconveniences of letting go of "The System" and the feeling that we cannot trust others so we have to go it alone, stuck with our private complaints and the ongoing sounds of clanging chains coming from our severely compromised victim status. We have so much fear of letting go of what we claim we "own" in "The System" and the greed and selfishness created by the uncertainty of life and the lack of abundance in "The System", that we need the FORCE of "The System" to provide protection at the cost of everyone else suffering in "The System" which includes the loss of freedom, peace, joy, abundance, etc, that comes as we continue selling each other out all-the-time.

This is all trauma.

But it is only through letting go of our fear and our greed and selfishness that we will find true-freedom.

Greed and selfishness make people go off and buy a piece of land so that they can have "their" freedom but that does not keep "The System" from the door and does nothing to create freedom in the lives of those around them and us. It is only through getting together and confronting those of "The System" when they come knocking that we get them out of our lives. Even better when the FORCE behind "The System" no longer exists to come knocking on our door.

"Community Immunity" through large numbers is what they fear and are powerless against. There is no point in half a million of us going to the city to protest and then going home again, still plugged into "The System". Those of "The System" don't give two hoots about this and, in fact, they orchestrate and control such protests because people feel they are doing something when they are still giving all their energy to "The System". They know that the thought of freedom is not freedom. They know that they can manipulate slaves to exhaust their life-energy at rallies, social-media websites, watching footy, masturbating over sexual images, getting pissed, being entertained by petitions, etc, etc, without ever giving LIFE consistently to the thought of freedom. For slaves, the dream of freedom is just that a dream, a thought, an idea always at arms length. The "spell" and PULL towards compliance and addiction to "The System" is so very strong that slaves are back at work the next day or are falling into regimental lines receiving government hand-outs.

If we want to be free of "The System" we have to change the way we are living. At it's hearts and our hearts, this is what the whole debate we recently had with Raymond Karczewski has been about - the thought of our freedom is not the same as creating and living our freedom.

Capturing Another MANS Uniqueness
A Facebook Debate With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
And Raymond Karczewski
Starting 13th May 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8414

Note: the final instalment to this debate, Parts 2 & 3, will be uploaded ASAP. They go deeply into the background of trauma. To us these posts are a huge eye opener clearly revealing how and why the Freemasonic/Satanic world create trauma and brilliantly use it to trap MAN into enclosures where they can be used as slaves for whole life-times.

We are so compromised that sometimes it seems impossible to take the steps away from "The System". They know this and know that this is why most of us are still choosing "The System" over freedom because we are not prepared to give up our system addictions and deal with the many sacrifices and potential suffering we all have to go through to get out the other side.

The power of many of us coming together as "community immunity" to show that we can live together in peace without "The System" is the only method, bar earth-wide extinction brought on by an earth fever, that will break the back of "The System" because, once we no longer need "The System" physically, mentally and emotionally, they have no power over us and "The System" will fade away because no one is giving it any life-energy any more.

When we all come together to be the gift of life for those around us, giving up our self-centredness to labour so that everyone has food, water and shelter and being prepared to stand up for each other so that we all have people we can count on is how we heal the trauma that has us locked into "The System". We are confident that, once a few of us come together to do this, we will soon be saying, "Why didn't we do this years ago?" Yes, we will work hard until we have broken down the FORCE behind "The System" and got rid of it, but the satisfaction of what we achieve will be far beyond that which we feel from the distractions of "The System". But, hey, there is nothing said here that we have not said before because this is what we have been determined to create since 2006.

The Spell Is Broken
Taking The Land To Create Kindom

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8365

"The Steps Of Kindom"
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

All the best
Arthur & Fiona Cristian

From A Recent Facebook Post.....

"Time" is not the issue as it doesn't exist. What is really going on here is reaction to trauma. "The System" and everything of it is trauma based. Refer to our articles and videos for more on this. GeoEngineering is all trauma based too. Both those behind it and those at the effect of it are all reacting to trauma. As we shared earlier, "Trauma needs to be healed sufficiently in all of us so we can continue progressing fearlessly towards our collective do no harm community/paradise on earth objective. What we've been learning through direct experience over these last 8 years is staggering. The depth of trauma is so extensive that almost all of us don't know how to live without the reaction to trauma, in one form or another, shaping the decision making which forms the outcomes of our lives from sunrise to sunrise. The whole of "The System" is trauma based and is a man-made hell. We are not of hell yet we are so compromised by it. We are determined to inspire MAN out of hell so that Earth is again the living paradise it was dreamt to be. Getting MAN out of hell is a huge team effort.

And a copy of a reply in that post: "In the water of MANS breath where sperm and egg come from we already have all of Paradise in us, as us. Though much of it has been ignored/distracted/corrupted/distorted/suppressed/etc, thanks to trauma (impure insincere thoughts, feelings, actions, dreams that do harm), we are all still completely made out of that heavenly stuff (pure and sincere do no harm thoughts/feelings/actions/dreams).

All you have done was to take full-responsibility to repair whatever you could of the damage done to you because your natural heartfelt connection with paradise is stronger than with the bullshit hell surrounding you. We are all presently struggling through the bullshit of hell's trauma to get back to where we are now. There is still a way to go to have us all living paradise here and now.

Bar not doing harm to MAN/Earth/Nature and being conscious of not doing harm there is NOTHING else to learn from HELL. If we and our ancestors had not been interfered with, we would already be living paradise in present-sense. From the instant of conception children are already equipped with all the tools for co-creating and expanding paradise all-around. The more we start remembering who we really are the faster we can accelerate the process of co-creating Kindoms/Do No Harm Communities/Tribes/Villages and until we make this happen in large scales between us as a gift for all of MAN (us) we will continue suffering from the consequences of giving our life to Hell ("The System") causing hell to bind us all even more closer to hell as in-divide-u-all-s (individuals) with no way out.

Until we have all worked our arses off "day-after-day" to create a living paradise we will never be able to have that "private" space of love where we can each uniquely dream to create the original MAN we are at our core. We've first got to get rid of hell from all around us, from out of the lives of everyone around us and ONLY then can we start to live paradise again. Until we've made this happen nothing will change our bonds with hell. In fact, those who don't take full-responsibility to get rid of hell won't make it as hell will have consumed them as part of the collective spiritual suicide of MANS fall into it.

This post we put up yesterday on Arthur's FB wall "Raymond Karczewski posted this comment in a debate on Nigel Beckwith's Facebook wall..." goes into this subject more deeply and as you read the full extent of the debate we had with Raymond Karczewski we can see/sense what has to be done.

Capturing Another MANS Uniqueness
A Facebook Debate With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
And Raymond Karczewski
Starting 13th May 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8414

"Time Codes" makes trauma based images "self fulfilling" (self-creating), which can't be done if they are not set to a "time code". We project time-coded images from a past we're not letting go of into a future we're not letting go of because we have memorised them, causing the "story-telling" of the trauma to be be re-experienced over and over again here and now in present-sense where we've not been letting go of them.

That's what trauma does to us.

Everything about "The System" is trauma based. All "The System" education is trauma based, conditioning/brainwashing us to "time-codes" so we can be locked into them. Then we are easily manipulated which causes us to comply down-the-line whenever however............i.e....... police officer getting out of the car with lights flashing coming over to you armed with baton, taser, gun, hand-cuffs, penalty infringement notice booklet, etc... Aaaaahhhhhhhh the power of non-sensory images rooted to a time-code = trauma.

These time-coded stories of trauma form the sub-conscious = memory - which is just an echo of a trauma (non-sensory-image) bouncing to and fro between your ears. It is the past projected into the future that controls us here and now.

Trauma is a vicious circle.

How many people do you know who are free of enslavement to trauma?

Being trained/conditioned to "Time Codes" causes us to set trauma into motion so that we can re-experience its harmful-suffering-story over and over again even though nothing is really going on in present-sense........ the time-code of the trauma-story is rooted in the past of "long-ago".

"I have to go to work to keep a roof over my head, get my kids through school, put food on the table, pay the mortgage, pay the bills, etc..... and if I don't" ......... TRAUMA REACTION IS ON BIG-TIME NOW - RED LIGHT IS FLASHING EVEN BRIGHTER even though its always been flashing since being trapped to this time-code rooted in trauma. "I'd better keep getting up each day and go to work in "The System" as a good little compliant slave."

When a child falls over and hurts themselves it's best to ignore their pain by not reacting to the pain the child is experiencing in those moments and instead provide them with a remedy that helps them to move forward without dwelling on the story of the pain. Have watched many children ready to burst into tears but pulling out of it at the last moment when they realise/sense there is no attention-seeking pay-off in it for them coming from those around them. They just move on. This is what nature does to. Life is for the living. "The System" is not for the living.

A lie cannot be created without a "time code". Are you aware of this? All lies are rooted in "time codes".

There is so much more to this and we explain this in some of the Love For Life videos we've been posting and in some of the Love For Life articles too.

Arthur Cristian

The Cristian Family November 2006

True Purpose Behind Chemtrails And Harp


By Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

28th May 2013

Everything going on about Chemtrails, HAARP, etc, is all about the INTENTION to break/disrupt PRESENT-SENSE connection with all our ORIGINAL (MANS) ancestors,

to break/disrupt PRESENT-SENSE connection with ORIGINAL dreams of life set into motion by ORIGINAL ancestors (living co-creators) that we all are (MAN/descendants are their ORIGINAL living-sensory-dreams set into motion)

and to break/disrupt PRESENT-SENSE connection with all ORIGINAL sensory life forms, inanimate or not, so that we cannot learn about who we really are (our ORIGINALITY), what we are really part of (our ORIGINALITY) and what is our true purpose (our ORIGINALITY).

The Freemasonic/Satanic World is doing everything possible to stop us remembering who we really are (our ORIGINS) because, when we do, we stop setting "The System" (their fantasy "alien" world - not of our ORIGINS), and everything of it, into motion, meaning, we are no longer slaves to their non-sensory (false idol) images (this alien gobbledygook/martian-talk world not of our ORIGIN).

We are creating ORIGINAL water every "time" we breathe out (ORIGINAL breath). All our (MANS) ORIGINAL dreams, intentions, thoughts & ideas are embodied/encoded in the ORIGINAL water of our breath (our ORIGIN) and there these images remain in present-sense forevermore (ORIGINAL) unless we destroy/corrupt the water of our breath (our ORIGINS)....... enter in Chemtrails, HAARP, etc.

The water of our breath embodies the dreams of our ORIGINAL ancestor who created the ORIGINAL dream of life, who created the ORIGINAL mountains, the valleys, the trees, the birds, the insects, etc.... EVERYTHING of the dream of life (IS ORIGINAL).

Everything of the sensory dream of life is of MANS ORIGINAL dreaming. As we wander through the forests and explore the beauty of nature in all its incredible forms, what we are experiencing is the ORIGIN-ALL dreams, the creations of our ORIGINAL ancestors set into motion.

When we observe a bird, we are observing the creation of the dream of our ORIGINAL ancestor. That dream had a purpose for the dream of life, for nature. We have all been hijacked through distraction and thought control to create non-origin/non-original dreams that serve "The System" (nothing original here). We set these non-original dreams into motion and create "The System" hell we live in today.

We do not realise the power of our ORIGINAL ancestors before they fell (into non-original dreams/thoughts), the power to create that we all have but that we have forgotten. This power is in our ORIGINAL DNA, which is the ORIGINAL DNA of ORIGINAL MAN (our origins) sustained in present sense in the ORIGINAL water of MAN's ORIGINAL breath, the power and the purpose of living creator that is the ORIGINAL dream of life that is nature.

ORIGINAL MAN IS PRESENT SENSE (living-sensory consciousness = LIFE/Nature/Earth). There is no lineal (time-code) images here as they are not of our ORIGIN.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/941743_6368171696...

Light is Water - Sound is Water - Smell is Water - Sight is Water - Touch is Water - Feel is Water - Taste is Water - Hear is Water - Without Water No Sense Can Be Experienced - Can't Be Thought or Felt or Acted on.

To us, everything (all thoughts/images we think and feel) is man-made and its done through the water of our breath that we share and co-create life with and which can also be severely compromised by our brothers/sisters turning against each other (us), thus corrupting the water of our life (breath) with distorted, impure, insincere, intentions that are non-sensory thoughts/images = demons, apparitions, phantoms, ghosts, et's, aliens, higher beings, gods, divine angels with wings, etc, etc.

Capturing Another MANS Uniqueness
A Facebook Debate With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
And Raymond Karczewski
Starting 13th May 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8414

In present-sense, we are, MAN IS, living creator - we co-create and breathe life with the ORIGINAL breath of living-creator. MAN is the ONLY one present with the presence of LIFE, all else are MAN-made images that are non-sensory apparitions, ghosts, phantoms, demons, etc, set into motion by MAN. Life (MAN) maketh the creator of Life (MAN). Who is there to think, feel and experience Life if MAN did not exist? All thoughts/images of the past and future requires MAN to exist in present-sense to think, feel and experience them. Without MAN, all thoughts of the past and the future cannot be thought or felt. All thoughts of the past are MANS making as are all thoughts of the future are MANS making too. Every thought/image we (MAN) experience can only be experienced in present sense where all of MANS thoughts/images were created and set into motion. All of MAN that ever was and ever will be is who we really are and at the effect of, here and now, in present-sense. The buck stops with us. Through the water of our breath and our intentions set into motion through our breath, we are creating our collective experience and are either rejoicing in elation or suffering terribly.

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

The Cristian Family November 2006

LOVE FOR LIFE

Below are mostly recent links to Love For Life, videos, articles, songs, debates/discussions and podcasts.

All videos are embedded below, just scroll down to find them.

They contain a vast amount of insights for you to contemplate on.

It's best you do not believe in anything we say and instead use your brain/senses to scrutinise all information and go where the logic of truth takes you.

Links to all other videos, etc, can be found here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385

Background information about us, can be found by scrolling down the Love For Life website Quick User Guide: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608

All the best to you and your family
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

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The Cristian Family November 2006

Love For Life Links


Below are mostly recent links to Love For Life, videos, articles, songs, debates/discussions and podcasts.

All videos are embedded below, just scroll down to find them.

They contain a vast amount of insights for you to contemplate on.

It's best you do not believe in anything we say and instead use your brain/senses to scrutinise all information and go where the logic of truth takes you.

Links to all other videos, etc, can be found here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385

Background information about us, can be found by scrolling down the Love For Life website Quick User Guide: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608

QUICK INTRODUCTION INTO
THE LOVE FOR LIFE INSIGHTS

Check out the Food Forest we created in a very short period of time.
We demonstrate how to grow lots of organic food in small spaces quickly.

"From Bare Dirt To Abundance"
A Year In The Life Of The
Love For Life Food Forest

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
8th February 2013
51 Minutes 46 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A

What Is Really Going On
Behind Barrack Obama's Plan
For The Chinese To Invade America
When The U.S. Dollar Collapses

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
23rd June 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8438

System Life + GovernMENt +
True Purpose Behind Chemtrails And HAARP

By Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
1st June 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8428

Capturing Another MANS Uniqueness
A Facebook Debate With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
And Raymond Karczewski
Starting 13th May 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8414

A Spell Master At Work
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
21st April 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8401

Turning Away From The Reflection
Of MANS Looking Glass

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
30th April 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8404

Frank O'Collins, His Ucadia
And One-Heaven.org
Worships "The System"
That Is The Beast And Is Hell

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
30th April 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8407

Comment About The Video
"Satanic Ritual Child Sacrifices Exposed"

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
12th October 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8232
http://youtu.be/-jTdc04ODU4

A Little Bit About ORGASM & WATER
And
Re-Presenting Intellectual Property
Will Never Get You To Truth

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
20th to 22nd May 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8418

Ben Lowrey Interviews Arthur Cristian
Love For Life - 8th February 2012
95 Minutes 28 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH25tucSZSo

The Dream Of Life Part 6 - Under The Spell Of Intellectual Property
Arthur Cristian - 51 Minutes 52 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMK7CkU1ih8

The "Name" Is The Mark Of The Beast The Strawman
Identifying Your Slave Status In "The System"

By Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
5th February 2012 - 56 Minutes 25 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdOag66v7uo

Control The Land
And You Control MAN On The Land
Displace MAN From Land
And You Turn MAN Into Slaves

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
April 2011 (Updated 14th September 2011)
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8237

OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
27th February 2013 onwards...
Part One: http://youtu.be/Qjp_9nlrBao
Part Two: http://youtu.be/tbybeOWZ-Bc
Part Three: http://youtu.be/yOWoxH-HbVw
Part Four: coming
Part Five: coming

Max Igan & The Fraud Of The OPPT
(One Peoples Public Trust)

Facebook Discussion With Arthur & Fiona Cristian
17th to 19th February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8357

OPPT Is A Scam
Why "Self" Is Not MAN

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
21st February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8363

The Spell Is Broken
Taking The Land To Create Kindom

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8365

A Facebook Discussion
About OPPT

Involving Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Chris Mansergh and Mark McMurtrie
8th March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8452

"The Steps Of Kindom"
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
2006 to 2007 - Updated/Revised 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 8th February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8350
Part One: http://youtu.be/4ze66_33wxM - 70 Minutes 5 Seconds
Part Two: http://youtu.be/43gIi-sjxJc - 81 Minutes 13 Seconds
Part Three: http://youtu.be/oooY6W63K-M - 70 Minutes 18 Seconds
Part Four: coming

Comment From Arthur & Fiona Cristian Regarding The Summary
About The NASA Future Strategic Issues & Warfare Circa 2025
Dr Dennis M Bushnell - Warfare Strategy Document - Video & PDF

24th June 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8439

Also check out
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Dinosaurs - Are They Still Amongst Us? Evidence Says They Are
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Comment From Arthur & Fiona Cristian Regarding The Summary
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Dr Dennis M Bushnell - Warfare Strategy Document - Video & PDF

24th June 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8439

What Is Really Going On
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For The Chinese To Invade America
When The U.S. Dollar Collapses

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
23rd June 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8438

System Life + GovernMENt +
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A Little Bit About ORGASM & WATER
And
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Will Never Get You To Truth

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Love For Life
20th to 22nd May 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8418

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Turning Away From The Reflection
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Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
30th April 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8404

Frank O'Collins And His Ucadia
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Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
30th April 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8407

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By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
12th October 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8232
http://youtu.be/-jTdc04ODU4

A Spell Master At Work
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
21st April 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8401

The Spell Is Broken
Taking The Land To Create Kindom

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8365

Max Igan & The Fraud Of The OPPT
(One Peoples Public Trust)

Facebook Discussion With Arthur & Fiona Cristian
17th to 19th February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8357

OPPT Is A Scam
Why "Self" Is Not MAN

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
21st February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8363

A Facebook Discussion
About OPPT

Involving Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Chris Mansergh and Mark McMurtrie
8th March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8452

Control The Land
And You Control MAN On The Land
Displace MAN From Land
And You Turn MAN Into Slaves

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
April 2011 (Updated 14th September 2011)
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8237

The Incarceration of Dean Clifford
Email Sent To Wayne Swan
Govern(men)t Of Canada
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Arthur & Fiona Cristian
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9th February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8349

Difference Between Limited Liability/Responsibility
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Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Facebook - 13th July 2012
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8295

Alloidal Rights/Natural Rights Is "Intellectual Property"
The Basis Of "Ownership"

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Facebook - 19th July 2012
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8297

The Deception Of Alphabet Languages
Causing MANS Spiritual Suicide
The True Purpose Behind The Invention
Of Phonetics & Etymology

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 20th July 2012
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8299

The Dual In Duality
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Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 3rd August 2012
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8301

We Are Saying That "Going Within" Or "Going Without"
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http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8302

Yellow Never Told Us It Was Yellow
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
12th September 2012
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8319

The Non-Sense Obstacles
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How The "Haves" (Rulers)
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Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Facebook - 5th May to 2nd June 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8178

Vortex Of Deactivation And Inactivity
Possible Facebook Espionage
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Arthur & Fiona Cristian
24th August 2012
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8316

Julian Assange - Wikileaks
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http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8347

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95 Minutes 28 Seconds

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A Spell-Master At Work by Arthur & Fiona Cristian 21/04/2013

The Cristian Family November 2006

A Spell-Master At Work


By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

21st April 2013

This 11 minute 44 second Max Igan video "Painting Mankind Into A Corner" Part 2: http://youtu.be/ImgOHAGd_4I (embedded below) is a spell crafted to keep us apart, divided and individualised. It is a spell to prevent us coming together to form tribes where we take care of the land without the need for a system to control and manage us and the land. The spell is telling us that we cannot form community immunity so that we all take care of each other and harm done to one is harm done to all.

An ocean is formed by water droplets merging and working together; if the droplets all went their separate ways, what would become of the ocean? If the droplets decided to go within, taking their life energy away from other droplets, what then? Can a droplet be an ocean without other droplets? If all of nature went within, there would be no Earth, no forests, no mountains and no valleys.

So how will going within help us to get out of "The System"? How does going within bring freedom, truth, peace, joy and abundance for all of life without loss of uniqueness/originality and without the need for slaves and rulers? If we cut our bodies open to look for within, all we will find is organs, glands, bones, tissues, cells, etc, consisting of water. If we keep going to the other side and out, we will find more water. All of life is connected to all of life and, when it is not distorted and corrupted, there is nowhere in life that water is not. Water is living-sensory consciousness. We CANNOT go within to consciousness when we already are consciousness. We cannot cut our lives off from life without affecting life. Searching for freedom when you already have it will never set you free. Our true power is not found within; our true power is in coming together with no back door to clean up the mess we are all responsible for and co-creating the paradise we all dream of. We don't need to go within to do this.

As a gift of life we need to shine out our love and our power to share it with those around us. If we are all shining our love and power out for all, as the sun shines its rays, then we are all receiving the warmth of that love and power. If we are all going within, none of us are shining our love and power for the benefit of life and we are not receiving the warmth of that love and power. If the sun decided its outgoing expanding rays of light would now turn back on self into its within, where the sun once was would now be jet black darkness, a black hole void of life. It would no longer exist, the flames of life have faded away into oblivion. The spell of going within disconnects us from consciousness causing spiritual suicide because we have fallen into the reflection of consciousness that is the image taught to us by another man or woman. When you are thinking about being conscious, you are not being conscious.

Going within keeps us in-divide-u-all-ised and powerless. While we are all individuals, we will never achieve anything because we are all pulling in different directions rather than being the drops that form the ocean, not one the same as the next but all part of the whole, all co-creating the ocean.

Who says we can't get together in large groups to form our tribes? Who says that getting together is just about listening to speeches? Why can't we put our collective energy into creating food forests to feed us and creating shelters for all of us? Living as tribes in Kindoms is co-creating freedom, truth, peace, joy and abundance for all of life without loss of uniqueness/originality and without the need for slaves and rulers and no Waco scenarios, in the lives of all those around us. This is our true power. Everybody lives for the tribe and the tribe lives for everyone. Together we carry the weight of our full responsibility to the dream of life that is the tribe so that none of us have a heavy burden. When we go within, we are giving up that responsibility, not taking our share of the weight. As people come to a tribe, they take on some of the weight of the responsibilities of that tribe, doing what needs to be done for the tribe. It is a team effort. When we observe nature, we can see that all life forms take their share of the weight of the responsibility that is the forest. They live for the dream of the forest. All the life forms of the forest make up the forest and the forest takes care of all the life forms. The forest is the dream of all the life forms of the forest.

To break out of "The System", we need to create the Kindom tribes that are our forests. This means men, women and children coming together with no back door to do what needs to be done, to work with discipline and dedication until the tribe is fully formed and strong. We can't be half-there, semi-committed, "I feel like going to the beach for the afternoon", "I'm just disappearing for three days to meditate in the forest". Who takes on their workload whilst they are gone? When we have the strength to disconnect from "The System" and the infrastructure in place so that everybody has shelter and food and we have Kindoms spreading all across Earth, then we will be able to enjoy Earth's beauty knowing that nobody is having to slave for us to have our play. Until then, it is head down, tail up, hard at work with a splash in the river at the end of the day to wash off the mud. There are always going to be distractions to tempt us away from our responsibilities; it is up to us to recognise them so that we do not allow them to distract us from our purpose. Do No Harm, Life is a Gift and Community Immunity are the pillars Kindom is built on.

Imagine if the sun said, "Hi guys, I am off to galaxy 45xy321z for a break and will be back in a few days." What would happen to all the life forms that rely on the sun for warmth, light and nutrition? Life as we know it would no longer exist. The sun perpetually shines in present-sense as that is its FULL responsibility to the dream of life just as it is our responsibility to shine life on the dream and the labour of Kindom so that the Kindom dream may live in present-sense too. Living the dream of Kindom is shining our light on the lives of those around us by creating freedom, truth, peace, joy and abundance for all of life without loss of uniqueness/originality and without the need for slaves and rulers and no Waco scenarios, in the lives of those around us. Just as the sun radiates it's warmth, so we have to radiate freedom, etc, into the lives of others by taking on the responsibility of making sure they have that freedom, etc. This is what "radiating" means; radiating that freedom, etc, in their lives. This means you have to stand up for it, to be present to freedom for them and be counted on. This is the basis of community immunity because you won't let anything get in the way of that freedom. How can you do this when you are going within?

If you are not present to the dream of life, you are not committed and cannot be responsible for it which means that you cannot be counted on. When you are present to the presence of life, you are being responsible for the dream of life. Otherwise you are not present and cannot be responsible for it. To go within is to neglect our responsibilities to the dream of life because, while we are focusing on our within, we are not focusing on life. Anything less than life is not freedom, is not truth and joy, etc. It is compromised and empty. While we live for the car and the journey of the car, we make that our responsibility and this is what we live for. But while we live for the dream of the journey of the car, we are also living for the destruction of Earth because that is what a car represents, and we are taking responsibility for destroying Earth. Taking responsibility for the image of consciousness provided for you by someone else is not being conscious. Taking on someone else's image of what it is to be spiritual is not being spiritual.

The New Age is full of men and women thinking they are spiritual and conscious when all they are doing is acting out the image, the reflection of that spiritual consciousness given to them by other men and women telling them how to think, feel and act about spiritual consciousness. This shapes a falseness in how they show up and makes them lost - they are not taking responsibility to be conscious in present sense because the image of consciousness they re-present is in past tense. It is not present with the presence of life because they are not living it, not taking responsibility for their consciousness being present with the presence of life. They give up the freedom, truth, peace, etc, that they already have to go on a journey to find it, looking to the creator, source, God or Higher Beings to show them how to be it. This is the falseness of their act. This is giving up power and full responsibility to the force behind whoever they are following as they allow that force to tell them how to think, feel and act.

The reason people find it so hard to get together and create tribes is that most people do not want to take on the responsibility of being a Kindom tribe, of taking on the weight of that tribe. They prefer to sit around complaining that they don't have it and talking about how to do it but not actually doing it because they do not want to give up the self-centred distractions that keep them from being the tribe. We have to be a tribe, to live it and this means giving up everything that is not beneficial to the tribe which is everything that is about "me", "mine", "I", "own" and anything that comes along to take you away from your responsibility to the dream. If you start a relationship with someone, that relationship should be adding to and supporting the dream of Kindom, not diminishing it. If we keep the image of the tribe at arms length, we will never reach it. If we want to be part of the ocean, we work with all the other droplets in the ocean. We cannot be part of the ocean while we are on our individual droplets journeys with our individual droplet truths. A tribe can start with the attitude of just two people who take responsibility to care for each other.

Of course we can't please everybody and why should we try to? If some do not want to create freedom, truth, peace, joy and abundance for all of life without loss of uniqueness/originality and without the need for slaves and rulers then there is no one pointing a gun at their heads but why should we be limiting our actions, providing we are doing no harm, based on what they are thinking. Not getting together because some people might not like it is ridiculous!

Going within is reminiscent of the Dalai Llama telling us that to find peace in our environment, we must first find peace within. This is telling us to accept the chaos, accept the harm and accept the destruction around us. Instead of accepting this, shouldn't we be standing up to the chaos, harm and destruction? Should we be peaceful when we are cogs in the machine that is "The System" that is causing so much destruction to life? While we accept the chaos, harm and destruction, we are perpetuating it. While we look for justifications to keep "The System" or not to stand up to "The System", we are supporting and maintaining the chaos, the harm and the destruction. While we don't stand up for each other, we are perpetuating the chaos, harm and destruction of our brothers and sisters of life. This is apathy, being trapped in the reflections of truth, peace, etc. While we accept "The System" in our lives, "The System" is still present in our lives. If we do not want "The System" in our lives, we have to take responsibility for not having it in our lives and in the lives of those around us.

The true purpose of the message to go within is to keep us from creating the dream of Kindom because this is the only way to get rid of "The System" This is also the reason behind the Boston Bombings, 9/11 and every other harm doing event going on that sucks our attention and energy so that we are no longer giving our attention and energy to Kindom. We could write a thousand books about the various forms of distraction that keep us from creating Kindom, all there to make us feel powerless and that we cannot take on that responsibility. Anything less than Kindom needs a man-made system and this is what those behind "The System" are working on; they need us to need their system so that we accept the latest version, the NWO. This is what OPPT is all about, what Thrive is all about and what Zeitgeist is all about. If these movements succeed, we are a step along the path to the NWO. If they fail, we are persuaded to accept what those behind "The System" have to offer because we have fallen for the story that we are incapable of choosing freedom, truth, joy, etc, for our lives and the lives of those around us. Thus, we are also prepared for the next "movement" they throw at us, possibly Frank O'Collins Ucadia. "We Will Lead Every Revolution Against Us," they said, and, while everybody is still going within and being distracted, they are being lead, still sucking on the nipples of their private corporations, through their "revolution" to the next phase of their game plan because they have not taken the FULL-responsibility to have no system in their lives and in the lives of those around them.

No, we do not need to point fingers at each other; we are all the result of system brainwashing, including the Freemasons and the powers behind the smokescreens. However, this does not mean that we should not thoroughly scrutinise information to see whether it is truth or lies, whether there are good intentions behind it or not. We have no need to attack the MAN sharing the information but to point out that information is not leading us to freedom, truth, peace, joy and abundance for all of life without loss of uniqueness/originality and without the need for slaves and rulers is not pointing the finger. It is clearing the fog so that we all may see clearly what we are putting our energy into, the images we are setting into motion.

It only takes one lie mixed into a mountain of morally correct truths to cause all the damage. The greatest lie/liar is the one closest to the truth. If we don't learn to recognise the lies, we will never find truth. It is the lies that separate us and the lies that we cling to. We can't form community immunity when we are separated and divided. The actions of each of us affect all of us. We cannot each create our own world based on our own beliefs without causing the mess we are part of today. "The System" has not served us in any way - all 'The System" has done is taught us to destroy who we are and what we are really part of. It has filled our brains with non-sensory images that teach us to forget our true purpose, distracting and tempting us into creating our "selves", our "journeys" and our "inner peace" rather than co-creating and expanding the dream of life that is peace, freedom, truth, etc.

The visual images in this video are strange. They are of nature, and yet it is not real nature. Nature is altered and mystified and there are buildings ("The System") entwined amongst nature. There are ancient pyramids, mystical writing, faces and statues suggesting Buddhism and meditation, orbs of light, floating, sparkling lights and images reminiscent of the all-seeing-eye. All these images are of "The System", of occultic, esoteric black magic crafts and practices. The combination of the slow, hypnotic tones of Max Igan, the ethereal, mystical, cosmic images and the message that we cannot get together send out the steady message of "The System", "The System", "The System".

The spell being cast here is telling MAN to be less than MAN, to give up full responsibility for being the MAN of freedom, of truth, of joy, etc, in present sense, and for radiating that all around. If this is not present, then we are not MAN. This is committing spiritual suicide. If we are not fully MAN, who are we? And if we give up everything that it is to be MAN, then we are nothing of MAN. Therefore, we have committed spiritual suicide. The dream of life that is the dream of MAN has been given up, forsaken, rejected. It is no more.

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All the best
Arthur and Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

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We Stand For NO SYSTEM

Kindom (Do No Harm Communities) is the dream for freedom, but it is the dream for the freedom of those around us who also live the dream of freedom, because it is in living for the freedom of others that we get our freedom. When we live for the dreams of Kindom of those around us, we live life as a gift because we live for (dedicate our lives to) their dream of freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, etc, just as they live for our Kindom dreams too. This is true co-creation (cooperation) with no attack on the uniqueness of each of us. When we live this way, we have no need for any man-made system - everything/everyone has already been taken care of by our love for life.

Just as we do not have to jump 10 feet across the room to grab our next breath, neither do we have to worry about food, water and shelter because it has all been taken care of as we each co-create Kindoms/Kin-Domains for everyone. Now everybody and everything of the dream of life that is Kindom/Paradise is free (has been set free once again). The issue is greed and selfishness, power and control trips, arrogance, ignorance, being fed many many lies and being traumatised. The issue is not overpopulation - there is more than enough land available for every family to have a hectare (2.5 acres Kin-Domain) to care for. The land of Australia can provide a Kin-Domain for every family across Earth, each with a food forest, clean fresh drinking water and plenty of space for building natural do no harm habitats and with plenty of land left over.

Everyone must have the freedom to take full-responsibility for their lives, for the water they drink, the food they eat and for their shelter. Currently, "The System" forces everyone to give up taking full-responsibility so that we become grown up children accustomed to sucking on the nipples of "The System" corporations for everything, having to use money to get by and to follow the rules of money because we are not co-creating freedom, peace, truth, joy and abundance for each other. Money only leads to haves and have nots and all the abuse, manipulation and distractions that we are subjected to as slaves to money.

When we give up living for other's Kindom dreams, we start creating hell ("The System") all around us because we become self-centred - now it's all about "my freedom","my money", "my land", "my belief", "my saviour", "mine", "mine","mine", "i","i", "i", "own", "own", "own", etc. To protect what we claim we own requires a man-made system with FORCE to protect those self-centred claims. This is ALL trauma based and all story-telling (brainwashing/braindirtying).

NO SYSTEM = KINDOM/DO NO HARM COMMUNITIES
NO SYSTEM = KINDOM/DO NO HARM COMMUNITIES photo Kindom_zpsa6d24e8a.jpg

Our true freedom comes when we set our thoughts of freedom into motion so that we live freedom rather than just talking and thinking about it while we still slave for "The System". Kindom will not happen while we meditate for hours in the bush or do yoga retreats or wait for Jesus or follow the processes of the OPPT (One People's Public Trust now called One People). This is not freedom because we are not living freedom because we are living the story-telling of Jesus or Zeitgeist or The Secret or Thrive or One Earth/Consciousness/People.

Living Kindom is very, very hard work as we set about repairing the damage to MAN/Earth/Nature that we are ALL responsible for but the burden becomes lighter the more of us put our life-energy into the dream of returning Earth to Paradise. Day-after-day, we all have to work our arses off until Kindom is all around us (MAN) once again. This is the price we pay to set each other free on a piece of land (Kin-Domain), so that no one is under the image-power (education/brainwashing/story-telling) of another MAN anymore and so that everyone can have their space of love to create and live their unique, do no harm dreams. This only happens once we have the Kindoms set up so that everyone is provided for.

Once we re-create the food forests, whether on land or in the suburbs, we can re-claim our freedom, breaking the strangle-hold of "The System" because we are no longer reliant on its services and benefits and no longer turning each other into slaves of "The System", cogs in the wheels of "The System" machine. If we don't put the effort in to set everyone and everything free all around us then we still live in HELL ("The System"). The key is to live for everyone else's freedom so that we can have it too.

From Bare Dirt To Abundance
A Year In The Life Of The
Love For Life Food Forest

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
8th February 2013
51 Minutes 46 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A

We live for NO SYSTEM. We do not lose anything by not having a man-made system and, in fact, we gain. We gain our freedom and we gain abundance. Let go of the fear.

The Cristian Family November 2006

A Collection Of Various Love For Life Posts
Providing The Big Picture We See

Sequential Order

We ask you to NOT believe anything we say/share and instead use scrutiny like an intense blow torch and go where the logic of truth/sense takes you. This is very, very important. Put everything you believe up to the test of scrutiny to see how it stacks up. If you are true to your heart/senses and go where the logic of truth/sense takes you will find that NO belief, etc, will stand up to the test of scrutiny. They just do not stack up because they are lies/fraud.

After you have watched and read all the material and any questions are left unanswered, send us your landline number and we will use the internet phone as a free unlimited call. We are on Sydney NSW Australia time. Best times for us to chat are between 11.00am and 6.00pm.

It is critical that you fully comprehend Image Power, "Spelling", Trauma, Reaction To Trauma, Curses, Processing Curses, Full-Responsibility/Liability, Limited Liability/Responsibility (passing-the-back), Slavery, Senses/Sense vs Non-Sense/Senses, Re-Presenting Intellectual Property such as but not limited to "Name", Storytelling/Storytellers, Duality, Black-Magic, Belief, Lies, "i", All Seeing "i" (eye), etc..... These themes and others are covered over and over and over again.

If you do not comprehend these insights and are unable to use your senses to sense your way through all the non-sense/non-sensory-images that enslave MAN under their image power (darkness = "The System" = Hell), men and women will remain deeply trapped under a terrible state of trauma. Our intention is to inspire you to remedy by showing you how to move away from reacting to trauma in all its nefarious and devious forms.

His-Story/Her-Story (History)
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
2005-2007 - Re-posted July 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8529

The Dream Of Life Part 6
Under The Spell Of Intellectual Property

Arthur Cristian - 51 Minutes 52 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMK7CkU1ih8

The "Name" Is The Mark Of The Beast
The Strawman Identifying
Your Slave Status In "The System"

By Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
5th February 2012 - 56 Minutes 25 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdOag66v7uo

IMAGE POWER
The Nefarious Tactics Used
To Disguise Truth And Distract Us
From Remedy

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
24th January 2014
This post contains many recent Facebook comments
and email replies which collectively provides a big picture
into exposing the deception behind IMAGE POWER.
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8496

The Pull Of E-Motion
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
8th February 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8499

IMAGE POWER
Superb Diamond Range Interviewing
Arthur & Fiona Cristian 4th February 2014
http://youtu.be/qFnuuw3kLog
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8501

Trauma Induced Fantasy
July 2013 Interview With
Jeanice Barcelo And Arthur & Fiona Cristian
http://youtu.be/CZVj-ddUoZw
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8500

Processing Curses
A Lie Is A Curse
Liars Process Curses

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
26th February 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8503

How The System Is Really Constructed
Bouncing Back Curses Upon Curse Makers
To Stop Harm Forevermore

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
27th February 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8504

Slave To A Name
Parts One, Two, Three, Four,
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd to 6th March 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8505

Educated Slaves
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
20th March 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8506

The Only Path To Freedom
Beware The False Steps

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 2nd April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8508

Free-Dumb For All
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 5th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8510

Revoking The Ego
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 8th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8511

How MAN Commits Spiritual Suicide
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life - 3rd April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8509

How To Detect Intel Operatives Working
For The New World Order Agenda
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 10th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8512

How The Psyop Program & Intel Networks
Are Messing With Your Head +
His-Story/Her-Story

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8513

Godzilla Through The Looking Glass
Destroyed By Name"

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 20th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514

What It's Going To Take
To Co-Create Freedom Forevermore

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 22nd April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514

Falling For Fairy Stories
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 24th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514

A Disassociation From The Work
Of Kate of Gaia

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 17th May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8517

Separating The Wheat From The Chaff
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 22nd May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8516

Revolution Or Revolution
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 25th May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8520

Routing Out Psyop Programs
Routs Out Intel Operatives
Exposing Max Igan's Psyop Program

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 31st May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8524

The Psyop Program Scam
Behind Religion Belief Faith
& Associated Opinion

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
11th June 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8525

Another Delusion
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
11th June 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8526

A World Of Words Is A World Of Lies
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
13th June 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8527

E-MAN
The Name Of The Beast Is MAN

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 9th May 2014
Includes Mountain MAN Arrested
Facebook Discussion About "Name"
Uploaded 25th June 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8528

Crop Circles Are A Massive Hoax
Facebook Discussion On Simon Kawai's Wall
Involving Arthur & Fiona Cristian
31st August 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8470

OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
27th February 2013 onwards...
Part One: http://youtu.be/Qjp_9nlrBao
Part Two: http://youtu.be/tbybeOWZ-Bc
Part Three: http://youtu.be/yOWoxH-HbVw

Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 8th February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8350
Part One: http://youtu.be/4ze66_33wxM - 70 Minutes 5 Seconds
Part Two: http://youtu.be/43gIi-sjxJc - 81 Minutes 13 Seconds
Part Three: http://youtu.be/oooY6W63K-M - 70 Minutes 18 Seconds

What Do You Believe On Origins?
Who Said There Was A Beginning?
Who's Truth Do You Accept?
Belief Is A Strange Idea.

Discussion Lyndell, Scott and Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Between March and April 2013
Posted 29th October 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8487

So You Want The Good Bits Of "The System"
But Not The Bad Bits?

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 12th August 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8468

Turning Away From The Reflection
Of MANS Looking Glass

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
30th April 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8404

REMEDY

From Bare Dirt To Abundance
A Year In The Life Of The
Love For Life Food Forest

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
8th February 2013
51 Minutes 46 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A

Control The Land
And You Control MAN On The Land
Displace MAN From Land
And You Turn MAN Into Slaves

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
April 2011 (Updated 14th September 2011)
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8237

The Divine Spark
Facebook Discussion With Raymond Karczewski
Arthur & Fiona Cristian & Others
2nd October 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8483

Capturing Another MANS Uniqueness
A Facebook Debate With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
And Raymond Karczewski
Starting 13th May 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8414

The Spell Is Broken
Taking The Land To Create Kindom

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8365

The Steps Of Kindom
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life 2006/2007
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

To explore these themes in greater detail go here where you can find links to all our Love For Life comments, articles, debates, discussions, videos, podcasts, etc: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385

All the best
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

Website: http://loveforlife.com.au
Email : action@loveforlife.com.au
Mobile : 0011 61 418 203204 - (0418 203204)
Snail Mail: PO Box 1320 Bowral 2576 NSW Australia
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Links below will kick in when the professionally recorded Love For Life music is released.

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Peaceful Transition Through Sacrifice And Service

We feel there is an essential peaceful do no harm transition required to get all of MAN back to standing on MANS feet without reliance upon another MAN for water, food, shelter. As it stands everyone in "The System" are highly dependent and reliant on the "group mind-set" that forms "The System" of slaves providing services and benefits for the emotionally addicted slaves to "The System" (and you can put us in the same basket too). The transition is to get MAN back to relying ONLY on nature without 3rd party interlopers, intermeddlers, interceders getting in the way. The transition is a team effort with the foresight for setting all of MAN free down-the-line so that MAN is no longer dependent on slaves and masters providing services, benefits, privileges and exclusivity while being bound to contracts, rituals, procedures, conditions, rules & regulations which compromises MAN severely.

This transition is all about shifting from limited liability/responsibility to full liability/responsibility. This full responsibility is all about caring for our health, nature all around us, clean uncorrupted (pure) water and food, partner/co-creator, children, shelter, animal-friends in partnership, etc. In "The System", we are already together destroying each other - we have to come together to create peace together so that we can all have peace. We cannot live peacefully when we are islands, not taking full responsibility for the lives of those around us until EVERYONE can take full responsibility for their life, which means that EVERYONE is healed of system trauma. In "The System", we all come together to make slaves of each other - now is the moment to come together to set each other free, to live for each other's freedom, peace, joy and abundance. Once we have set each other free, we are free.

Control The Land
And You Control MAN On The Land
Displace MAN From Land
And You Turn MAN Into Slaves

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
April 2011 (Updated 14th September 2011)
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8237

The Spell Is Broken
Taking The Land To Create Kindom

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8365

"The Steps Of Kindom"
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

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Once we fix these issues, we or our children or our descendants to come, can start focusing on the even bigger picture of getting back to where our ancestors were, as breatharyan's, before they fell into non-sense images to be enslaved by them.

All the best to you and your family
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

The Cristian Family November 2006

The Cristian Family Declaration

The Cristian family and The Love for Life Campaign are apolitical, non-religious, non-violent, anti weapons, anti drugs (both pharmaceutical and recreational) and anti any ideology that denies the existence of Do No Harm Communities (Kindoms) and suppresses the uniqueness and freedom of all men, women and children.

The Cristian family and our Love For Life work is unaligned to any big business corporation, intelligence agency, government body, "system" law, "system" think tanks, "system" green or environmental movements, religion, cult, sect, society (fraternity, brotherhood, sisterhood, order, club, etc,) secret or not, hidden agenda, law or sovereignty group, occult, esoteric, New Age or Old Age.

The Cristian family supports and promotes the remedy that brings an everlasting peace, freedom, truth, joy, abundance and do no harm for all of life without causing loss of uniqueness or the need for having slaves and rulers. We are not into following the one in front or being shepherds for sheeple. Most importantly, we take full-responsibility for everything we think, feel and do.

The Cristian family are not Christians.

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

December 2006

The Cristian Family November 2006

THE CRISTIAN FAMILY PLEDGE

Being of clear brain, heart and intention, we each declare the following to be true:

• We have no intention of ending our own lives.

• We will not tolerate suppression of truth, ideas, freedom, or our work. We stand for freedom of speech.

• We stand together to support others in the expression of truths and freedom to speak out no matter how radical those ideas may seem.

• Standing for freedom takes courage; together we shall be strong in the face of all odds.

• If it is ever claimed that we have committed suicide, encountered an unfortunate accident, died of sickness/disease, disappeared, been institutionalized, or sold out financially or in any other way to self-interested factions, we declare those claims false and fabricated.

• We testify, assert and affirm without reservation, on behalf of all those who have dedicated their lives to the ending of secrecy and the promotion of freedom of thought, ideas and expression that we shall prevail.

• We Do Not Have Multiple Personality Disorders

Arthur Cristian
Fiona Cristian
Jasmin Lily Cristian
Emma Rose Cristian
Frances Hannah Cristian
Xanthe Jane Cristian

15th December 2006 (Edited/Updated 18th September 2011)

The Cristian Family November 2006

Update Regarding The Love For Life
Home Page And Quick User Guide

We are turning the Love for Life Quick User Guide http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608 into a blog of all the main insights of our work since March 2005, whether through articles, videos, podcasts or discussions/debates.

As we do not have the time to compile everything we have written into a book, as many have suggested we do, compiling all our most important work into one area of the website is a way of providing easy access to this work so those interested are able to fully comprehend the big picture.

Instead of having to find our different articles, videos, etc, in various parts of the website, it will all be accessible here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385.

Love For Life Videos

As amateurs and posted in the Quick User Guide below the Facebook links, we're currently creating and posting a series of videos called "The Dream Of Life" which covers the ground of all the Love For Life insights. We plan to have the videos completed by December 31st 2012. Once this is behind us, our intention is to create a 2 hour or so video covering the body of this work. All videos are embedded in the quick user guide http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608 and uploaded in Arthur's YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/ArthurLoveForLife.

Love For Life Music

We have started recording songs, with others, that express the themes of Love For Life. They are now being posted on Arthur's YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/ArthurLoveForLife and are embedded in the quick user guide http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608. We have over 100 songs to record. A few rough demos have already been used as the soundtrack on the first "Dream of Life" video.

About Us - Love For Life & The Cristian Family

Also, everything we, the Cristian family, have gone through, from bank fraud and the theft of the family home to death threats and attempts on Arthur's life, is documented in the Quick User Guide too. If you, the reader, are prepared to put the effort in, you will comprehend the extent to which we have all been tricked into becoming slaves, giving up our uniqueness and our full-responsibility for life and destroying everything of life to the point where life is in danger of dying out completely. You will also comprehend the remedy to all this chaos; a remedy that requires only love for life and the determination to do what needs to be done. Though our focus is very strongly on the remedy that creates a world of freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance and Do No Harm for all of life without loss of uniqueness or the need for slaves and rulers, we realise that it is vital to comprehend how to get there and what stops us from getting there. This is why there is so much information on the hows and whys of everything going wrong in the world today. We are not into peddling conspiracy theories, we are into routing out all forms of organised crime.

Saturday 26th November 2011

Arthur and Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

Website: http://loveforlife.com.au
Email: action@loveforlife.com.au
Mobile: 0011 61 418 203204 - (0418 203204)
Facebook Arthur Cristian: http://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian
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Facebook Music: http://www.facebook.com/loveforlifemusic
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Facebook Do No Harm Community: http://www.facebook.com/151811728195925
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Google + Fiona Cristian: https://plus.google.com/100490175160871610090
Register To The Love For Life Mailing List: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/09/05/14/mailing-list

1. For The Body Of The Love For Life Work by Arthur and Fiona Cristian

Which Unravels The Reasons For The Chaos, Mayhem and Confusion Being Experienced In The World Today, Explains The Need For "Community Immunity" and Responsibility, and Focuses On The Creation Of Kindoms - Do No Harm, Life-Sustainable Communities (As The Remedy That Heals All Mans Woes) - And How We Can Co-Create Them. For Comments, Articles And Discussions, Go Here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 - Also Go Here To See Podcasts And Videos Posted by Arthur & Fiona Cristian: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7309 - The Information Shared Comes From Inspiration, Intuition, Heartfelt-Logic And Information Gathered From Nature And Many Amazing Men And Women Along The Way. It Is Not Found In Any Books Or Channellings, Or Talked About By "Experts". Go Here To Read A Brief Synopsis Of Why We Started Love For Life: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8182

2. For Information About The Ringing Cedars of Russia Series

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1125 and for more on Eco Homes, Villages, Organic and Permaculture Gardening and Life-Sustainability, etc, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3641 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1985 and Mikhail Petrovich Shchetinin - Kin's School - Lycee School at Tekos: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5173

3. For How To Eat A Raw, Living Food Diet,

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5068 - LIFE is information. When we distort LIFE and then eat, drink, absorb, think, feel, hear, see, touch, taste, smell and perform these distortions, the information of LIFE, your LIFE, our LIFE, our children's lives, everyone's LIFE, is distorted.

4. To Find A Menu For The Extensive Research Library (over 8,000 items posted embodying over 11,000 documents, pdf's, videos, podcasts, etc)

Which Covers Topics From Health to Chemtrails/Haarp to Brain Control to Archaeology to Astronomy Geocentricity Heliocentricity to Pandemics Bird Flu Swine Flu to Fluoride to Cancer to Free Energy to Global Warming, 9/11, Bali Bombings, Aspartame, MSG, Vaccinations, Aids/HIV, Mercury, New World Order, Satanism, Religions, Cults, Sects, Symbolism, etc, etc, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/82

5. If You Would Like To Read About The Cristian Family NSW Supreme Court Case

(Macquarie Bank/Perpetual Limited Bank Fraud Condoned By Judges, Registrars, Barristers, Lawyers, Politicians, Public Servants, Bureaucrats, Big Business and Media Representatives - A Crime Syndicate/Terrorist Organisation) Which Prompted The Creation Of This Love For Life Website December 2006, And The Shooting And Torture Of Supporters Who Assisted Us In Reclaiming The Family Home, Joe Bryant And His Wife, Both In Their Late 70's, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5 And Read Some Of Our Email Correspondence With Lawyer Paul Kean - Macedone Christie Willis Solari Partners - Miranda Sydney May 17th-June 27th 2006: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7300

6. For The Stories Of Other Victims Of The System,

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/australian_stories (If you have a story you would like us to put up, we would love to here from you:
action @ loveforlife.com.au)

7. For Documentation Of Harm Done By The Powers-That-Be And Their Representatives,

Evidence Revealing How Victims Did Not Break The Peace, Caused No Crime or Harm, There Were No Injured Parties. Documenting Incontrovertible Evidence Demonstrating How The Powers That Be (PTB) And Their Lackeys Will Break All The Laws They Are Supposed To Uphold. They Will Kidnap, Intimidate, Terrorise, Rape, Pillage, Plunder And Lie And Take Responsibility For None Of It. All Part Of Their Tactics Of Using Fear And Trauma To Keep Us In Our Place. Relatives Of Those Under Their Radar Are Also Not Safe From Attack And Intimidation. All Starting From A $25 Fine For Not Voting And A $65 Fine For Not Changing A Dog Registration. We Do Not Have Freedom And Can Only Appear To Have Freedom If We Comply. Regardless How Small The Matter The PTB Throw Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars Away To Enforce Their Will.... Go Here:
Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office - Part One to Part Ten - From 17th October 2008 And Still Continuing:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6319 or
Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office
Part One: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5742 - From 17th October 2008
Part Two: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6135 - From 18th December 2008
Part Three: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6295 - From 9th January 2009
Part Four: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6296 - From 14th January 2009
Part Five: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6375 - The Sick Puppy - From 20th February 2009
Part Six: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6390 - Police Officers, Sheriff’s Officers, Tow Truck Driver and State Debt Recovery Office Blatantly Ignore the Law To Rape, Pillage and Plunder The Private Property Of Fiona Cristian - From 11th March 2009
Part Seven: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6445 - Affidavit Of Truth - Letter To The Queen + Australia: Fascism is Corporatism - From 30th March 2009
Part Eight: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6652 - The Pirates Auction And The Ghost Of VSL386 - From 4th April 2009
Part Nine: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7073 - Arthur Cristian's Letter To Pru Goward MP - From 15th December 2009
Part Ten: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7500 - Should We Be In Fear Of Those Who Claim To Protect Us? "Roman Cult" Canon Law - Ecclesiastical Deed Poll - The Work Of Frank O'Collins - From 13th October 2010

8. If You Are Interested In Information On Freedom From Statutes, Rule-Of-Law, Free Man/Free Woman, Strawman, "Person" and Admiralty Law (The Law Of Commerce),

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/895 - For Common Law, Democracy, Constitution, Trial By Jury, Fee Simple, etc, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/category/main/law-articles-documents

9. If You Are Interested In Banking and Money Created (Fiat/Credit/Debt/Mortgage/Loan/Overdraft etc) Out-Of-Thin-Air, How Banks Counterfeit Money,

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/banks

10. For A List Of All The Latest Posts In The Love For Life Website,

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/tracker

11. For Links To Many Hundreds Of Videos, DVDs And Podcasts

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/video_dvd

12. To See The Cristian Family Pledge, Legal and other Disclaimers

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/06/12/05/love-life-legal-disclaimer

13. To Read About How A Representative Of The NSW Jewish Board Of Deputies Had Threatened To Shut Down The Love For Life Website

go here: Part One: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6616 Part Two: THE STEVE JOHNSON REPORT AND VIDEO: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6665 and Part Three: Latest Update On James Von Brunn: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6673

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Love For Life
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ADDITIONAL DISCLAIMER

THE CRISTIAN FAMILY SUPPORTS
FREEDOM OF SPEECH - FREEDOM OF THOUGHT

Note: Updated Wednesday 17th June 2009 8.00pm Sydney Time.

Love For Life does not support harm doing in any shape or form. However, we are supporters of free speech so we post articles, documentaries, etc, that represent a wide cross section of ideas. See the Love For Life extensive research library where there are over 11,000 individual documents, articles, videos, podcasts and debates/discussions are posted: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/82. We clearly see the evidence of the destruction to MAN and Earth that has been caused by ALL religions over the centuries and are therefore not supporters of religions, cults, sects or any group that demands conformity of thought, speech or action, or has rules, regulations or rituals that must be followed. Religions, nationalities and cultural "identities" are formed as a result of the brainwashing we receive from childhood. They are part of the tactics the Establishment uses to keep us all divided from one another and fighting one another.

All religions promote discrimination and division, leading to hatred and even violence and murder. None of them have yet to produce a remedy to all the suffering, poverty, unhappiness and discrimination in the world. If any religion truly had the remedy to all the suffering on earth, there would no longer be any suffering. What have Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, atheism and the New Age done to end the suffering in the world?

Freedom Of Speech - Freedom Of Thought

Since December 2006, there have been many attempts to take down the Love For Life website. Any attempts have been thwarted by Love For Life supporters inundating the harm-doers with emails, etc, objecting to them taking down the website for a variety of reasons. The trouble makers usually back off when they realise that they can post all their views, arguments, beliefs, etc, in the Love For Life website without censorship or restriction imposed. They get to see that even the Queen, Pope, Prime Minister, President of America, etc, can post all their views without hindrance or sabotage and that we support freedom of speech/thought which means we support the right of all sides to express their views.

Of note, there is a vast amount of information posted in the Love For Life website which we do not agree with but we leave it all up because we refuse to be biased, opinionated or self-centered/self-serving. Of the many thousands of comments posted over the years we have only removed posts containing secret links to commercial advertisements, terrible foul language, threats of violence and death, etc, and attacks on other people's characters that avoid the subject/debate at hand. Besides links to advertisements, we have taken down less than six comments due to the above. We usually leave everything up, all warts and all, even those posts threatening to do terrible things to Fiona, our children, our dogs, our friends, family & supporters, etc.

The Love For Life website has information from all sides on many subjects, whether about Islam, Judaism, Christianity, Law, health, psychology, mind control, vaccination, aspartame, MSG, Chemtrails etc. There are over 11,000 individual articles, documentaries, podcasts, etc on the website and they are so diverse that we are sure that everyone would be able to find something they loved and something they hated, if they took the time to search. If we removed all the articles hated by everyone, there would probably be nothing left! We are not anti anyone but freedom of speech is freedom of speech and no one should condemn the work of another without taking the time to research the subject themselves. Yes, there are articles by those who have a less-than-rosy-viewpoint of Judaism, but there are also articles on the dark side of Tibetan Buddhism (and it is very dark) for those who are interested in the truth: Tibet - Buddhism - Dalai Lama: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6271 Should the authors of these articles be abused and imprisoned for daring to challenge the widely conceived reputation of Buddhism as being the religion of peace and love and that of the Dalai Lama as a saint, or should those interested be allowed to study the work and come to their own conclusions? The same applies to all the articles, documentaries, etc, about Christianity, Islam, Freemasonry, New World Order, etc.

The Love for Life website also shows how the Rule of Law, the Bar, the Government, the Monarchy, the system of commerce, the local, national and multi/trans-national private corporations, all the courses and careers on offer from our universities, all the educators, scientists, academics and experts, the aristocrats and the Establishment bloodlines have also done NOTHING to end the suffering in the world. The website maps the insanity of a world where there is no help for those in need, just as there was no help available for us when we were victims of terrible bank fraud: http://loveforlife.com.au/court_case orchestrated, condoned and protected by an international crime syndicate/terrorist organisation of judges, barristers, registrars, lawyers, politicians, banksters, big business representatives, media moguls and other lackeys who, all together, put up a wall of silence despite our trying many, many avenues. After the family home was stolen and business destroyed we were left close to poverty and destitution caring for 4 young daughters. Three years later not much has changed regardless of all our efforts. Where were all the followers of all the religions to help us? Or do we have to be members of those religions to receive help from others involved in them?

We have been accused of being anti - Jewish because we had posted an excerpt from James von Brun's book: Kill the Best Gentiles! http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6054 in which he blames Jews for the problems of the world. Obviously this is not our view because of what we have stated above. We do not hate anyone, whatever religion they follow. We are always open to talk to any religious leader or politician and meet with any judge, member of the Bar, experts, academics, educators etc to share the remedy we offer that heals all the divisions between MAN and MAN, and MAN and EARTH.

Today, a representative of the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies is threatening to close the website down, because they have decided it is anti - Jewish and that we promote racism. What has the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies done to end the suffering in the world? Can they show that they are concerned with the suffering of ALL men, women and children AND ARE SEEN TO BE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT or are they only concerned with Jewish affairs? If so, they, along with all the other religions that only care for their own, are part of the problem, not part of the solution. The man who rang Arthur today was only concerned with Jewish affairs; he was not interested in our intentions or in anybody else, just as most Christians, Muslims, Sikhs, Catholics, etc, are only interested in their own. While we separate our lives into groups, dividing our lives from others with rules, regulations, rituals, procedures, conditions and contracts, we will never solve our problems.

No matter what we in the Western World Civilisation of Commerce have been promised by our politicians, religious leaders, scientists, educators, philosophers, etc, for the past two hundred years, all we have seen is ever-increasing destruction of men, women and children and Earth. None of the so-called experts and leaders we have been taught to rely on are coming up with a solution and none of them are taking full-responsibility for the fact that they can't handle the problem. All religious books talk about end times full of destruction and suffering but why do we have to follow this program when there is an alternative to hatred, mayhem and death? Why are our leaders following the program of destruction and death rather than exploring the do no harm alternatives? It seems that any mainstream politician, priest or academic are only interested in supporting the RULES OF THE DIVIDE, that maintain the haves and the have nots. For 200+ years, 99% of the world population have been so trained to pass on their responsibility for their lives, others and Earth, that the 1% of the population that make up the leaders of the rest of us are making all the decisions leading to the destruction of all of us and Earth. Let's not forget the education system that brainwashes the 99% of the population that we are free and have equal rights while, in fact, we are feathering the nests of those at the top.

At the root of all our problems is self-centredness, an unwillingness nurtured by the Establishment that keeps us concerned only with our own needs rather than the needs of others around us and Earth. Instead of creating and releasing acts of love for those around us as gifts to benefit them and Earth, we take, take and take, until there is nothing left. The whole point of the Love for Life website is to show people the root of all our problems and to share the remedy. The extensive research library is there to attract browsers and to provide access to information not available through mainstream channels. If the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies can, after careful examination of our work, prove that anything we are saying is wrong, we will be happy to accept their proof. If they cannot, and they are still insistent on closing the website down, they will be showing themselves to be traitors to MAN because they are not interested in pursuing any avenue that can end the suffering in the world.

All religions, corporations and organisations that support and maintain the Western World Civilisation of Commerce are part of the problem because our civilisation is a world of haves and have nots, exclusivity, privilege, racism, violence, hatred, poverty, sickness, discrimination, abuse, starvation, homelessness, corruption, collusion, vindictiveness, social unrest, arrogance, ignorance, fear, war and chaos. While we support civilisation, we support death and destruction.

If we truly want peace and freedom for all, we have to let go of all that which keeps us divided, and come together as MAN, conscious living co-creators of creation/life. The Love For Life website offers a remedy to the problems we all face in the form of DO NO HARM COMMUNITIES (KINDOMS): http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608 - http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3641 For more details see here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6511 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 - We also highly recommend that everyone read the brilliant Russian books called The Ringing Cedars: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1125 - The Love For Life homepage/front-page also provides lots of inspiring remedy based information: http://loveforlife.com.au - If you want to be kept up to date with our work please register to the Love For Life mailing list here: http://loveforlife.com.au/campaign_list We usually send two postings per month. Presently (September 2011) there are over 7000 registrations reaching over 500,000 readers across Earth. The website now (September 2011) receives up to 12 million hits per month. Since December 2006, over 100 million people have visited the Love For Life website.

Conscious Love Always
Arthur and Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
17th June 2009

The Cristian Family November 2006

Clarification Regarding Our Intentions
Behind The Use Of Donations

The Love For Life website is offered for free without a fee and without any conditions attached. If people are inspired to donate money, then we accept their gift and have provided an avenue for them to support the work we do through Fiona's Paypal or ANZ bank account http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8515. There is no obligation whatsoever to donate and all are equally welcome to our work and to our "time", whether they donate or not. Over the last 9 years, all the Love For Life work has been put out for free and it has often been donations from supporters that have enabled us to renew the domain name, etc, to keep the website going. While some complain that we have an avenue for donations, others complained when we didn't! Either use it or don't - the choice is yours.

Since Love For Life started March 2005 and website December 2006, Arthur has worked 16 hours a day, 7 days a week unpaid for much of this period, putting together the website and sharing insights to wake people up to what has been done to them, whether through the 11,500+ individual articles, videos, podcasts, debates, discussions, pdf's, research documents, etc, found amongst the 8,500+ posts, as well as helping many, many men and women over the phone, and through email, website correspondence, Facebook and YouTube, and creating the Love For Life food forest vege garden and Love For Life music recording studio. This is our life is a gift commitment to serve MAN/Nature/Earth but we are still severely compromised by "The System" and still have to give to Caesar what is claimed to belong to Caesar, which is where the donations help us.

Fiona & Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
21st July 2014