So Where Are These Kin-doms (Families) And What Of This "Love" You Bear Witness Too?

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So many dictionaries and so much confusion ;-(

So it is that I question, what is your definition of "Love"?

And where are these "Kin-doms"?

Has anyone embraced simplicity?

"Mutant message from down under" most certainly revealed a simple and spiritual life.

Re: So Where Are These Kin-doms (Families) And What Of This Love

Hello Francis,
Love is when we are prepared to give up ownership, greed, selfishness and everything that does harm to the living dream of the living creator - the natural, life sustainable world - and live our lives in harmony with the natural, living world, creating gifts (acts of love) for others. When everybody looks after everybody else, we are all taken care of.

It is ONLY through gifts (love) that Kindom is created.

You can't own (hold on to) your last breath, drink or meal without dying, the same applies with all our thoughts and feelings. While we continue owning (believing in/worshiping) thoughts and feelings, our actions will never be gifts that serve/benefit others. In "owning" (being possessed by demons) thoughts and feelings, MAN fell from consciousness (reality) into a state of unconsciousness of reality, and while thinking, feeling and acting on thoughts and feelings of fantasy, illusion, delusion and fiction we remain trapped in the real matrix unable to co-create Kindom with each other.

Although there are many men and women who are realising that Kindom is the ONLY remedy to our problems, as yet, there is no true Kindom on the earth. The creation of a Kindom is vital so that we can demonstrate that it is possible for men, women and children to live in harmony with one another and the natural world. A few men and women have embraced lives of simplicity, but they tend to be doing so on their own, living mostly in the bush or wherever. For those with families and who wish to live with others, this is not really an option.

For more information about our work, we suggest you read the following articles, comments below, as well as reading the Ringing Cedars of Russia series: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1125

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Kin-dom(Family) is The Way yet there is only ONE Father(Creator)

Are we not to listen too and receive from HIM?

Or are we to be of those wayward children who continue to deny and defy HIM, many of whom have had their Creator consciousness seared with a hot iron? Sadly brain(conscience)dirtyed to the utmost ;-(

Yet Creation still communes with those who seek a common union with The Creator and Father of ALL.......

The greatest natural teacher i have had in The Life given me was a burro named Feliciano.

Lesson #1, "if there is a problem in The Life given me, "I" am the problem".......

You testify, "MAN fell from consciousness (reality) into a state of unconsciousness of reality, and while thinking, feeling and acting on thoughts and feelings of fantasy, illusion, delusion and fiction we remain trapped in the real matrix unable to co-create Kindom with each other. " ?

You write such and then encourage others to read?

"the real "matrix""? Sounds as if an unreal movie has influenced you as well ;-(

In Truth it seems most of that which you bear witness too has come via the written word or personal thoughts and feelings ;-(

What of experience?

Share that which you have seen(experienced) and heard(received in and thru experience and not mere colored marks written on a dead tree).......

Kin-dom(Family) is The Only Way and yet that was revealed thousands of years ago, and if there is to be a 'religion' it would be Family.

"Pure And Undefiled Religion"

"Pure religion and undefiled before Our Father is this, to visit the fatherless (those children who know not their Father{Great Spirit,G-D,Creator} of ALL) and widows(those who have not "experienced The Messiah and The Power{Our Father} that raised Him from among the dead") in their affliction and to keep oneself uncontaminated by the world......." (James 1:27)

Simply, all other religion is impure and defiled.......

And notice that "pure and undefiled" religion is "oneself(individual)", a Brother or Sister doing The Will of Our Father, led of The Holy, Set Apart, Great Spirit.......

Simply, corporate "religion" is pagan and of this wicked world.......

And "Brothers and Sisters" is not "religion", for what are Brothers and Sisters if not Family?

Would not The Family of Our Father(Great Spirit,G-D,Creator), "The Body of The Messiah", be much closer than a natural, fleshly family?

And so it is that most of those who have chosen to follow The Messiah on The Narrow Way have had to "forsake their natural father, mother, brothers, sisters" and all others who "love this wicked world and their own life in and of it".......

The Brethren of The Messiah have "forsaken all for The Kingdom of Heaven's sake".......

Father Help! and HE does.......

What is declared to be "religion" today is truly the 'd'evil's playground.......

Simply, Faith will not create a system of religion.......

Hope is there would be those who take heed unto The Call of Our Father(Great Spirit,G-D,Creator) to "Come Out of her, MY people"!

For they will "Come Out" of this wicked world(babylon) and it's systems of religion, and enter into "the glorious Liberty of The Children of Our Father(Great Spirit,G-D,Creator)".

And so it is that they will no longer be of those who are destroying the earth(land, air, water, vegetation, creatures)" and perverting that which is Spirit(Light, Truth, Life, Love, Peace, Hope, Faith, Mercy, Grace, Miracles, etc.) and their heart's desire is for a common union realized in a simple and spiritual life.......

Peace, in spite of the dis-ease(no-peace) that is of this world and it's systems of religion, for "the WHOLE(not just a portion) world is under the control of the evil one" indeed and Truth....... francis

Yet the "I" Must Die for The "WE(Kin-dom/Family)" To Be:

The "I" Must Die!

In as much as i can 'see',
That which is of the 'I' in me,

So it is i yearn, and to Our Father cry,
For deliverance from all that is of the 'I'.

The 'I', born of "imag"ination and selfish desire,
As lust, greed, and pride, stoked a consuming fire ;-(

A fire burning out of control, as 'I' leads the way,
It's smoke concealing the fleshly mind that leads one astray ;-(

Yet even in the smoke, searing heat, and blindness of 'sight',
Truth can pierce the blackness of darkness, revealing "The Light"!

And nothing can hide from "The Light", so "Light" reveals the "I",
Allowing one to "see" clearly, and clearly the "I" must die!

But to live, yet die, seems an impossible task,
And so we need of "Our Father", the impossible to ask.

Help me to "deny myself(die to self)(die to 'I')" Father!

And as HE Helps, HE reveals more and more of "The Selfless One", The One Who leads His Brethren on "The Way to The Truth of The Life". He Who was, and is The Messiah, The Son of The Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL!

And as The Messiah desired above all else, so also will His Brethren desire above all else, "Father, not my will, But THY Will Be Done".......

The poem above was begun in Creel, Chih, Mexico in '92, a time when i sought to live and experience a simple and spiritual life and it was there that i received and embraced Simplicity. Left Mexico in '93, yet returned in '04. Then on 1/26/05 the poem was completed, and 'completion' is near for each and every one of us. And for "the poor and needy", thankfully so.......

Translated, "corruptible to incorruptible" indeed and Truth.......

Home at last.......

Forever free from The "I".......

All Thanks, Praise and Glory Be Unto "Our Father".......

And while there is breath(spirit) there is hope many will "see",
"see" The "I" for what it is, and then desire to be set free!

And that Spirit that was in The Messiah shall "set you free, free indeed"!

So, There Is Hope!

For Miracles do happen!

Hope is there would be those who experience The Miracle that is receiving "a love of The Truth" for they will "see" The Light that is The Messiah, they will "see" that The Life is of The Spirit(not seen with the natural eye), and most certainly not of the flesh or fleshly mind("I").......
Peace, in spite of the dis-ease(darkness) that is of this world and it's systems of religion, for "the WHOLE world is under the control of the evil one"(1Jn5:19) indeed and Truth.......

Truth is never ending.......

(Returned to this place called the u.s. of a. in June of '05, yet a return to the simplicity that is rural Mexico would be welcomed, however, i realize that in all things it must be "Father(Creator) not my will, But THY Will Be Done.......)

re: Kin-dom(Family) is The Way yet there is only ONE Father(Crea

Francis,

your false idol God worship will not be tolerated forever by the great Cosmic Mother. She is a patient Mother, but if you continue to reject Her, She will do what all Mothers do - kick your scrawny arse until you come to your senses. What is this male demon deity that you speak of? The Father of all? Bullshit! SHE creates all in the great cosmic womb. And there is no need for the Father. PATHOGENESIS - the mother comes before the father. Please show me what father ever gave birth to anything - the Father cannot ever be the Creator. Wake up and stop your idolatry before your soul is destroyed! You need a miracle, as I fear you lack the intelligence to see what is before your eyes every minute of every day in the trees, animals, everything that surrounds you. The scriptures say: Satan took the truth and made it a lie. Stop believing the lie, Francis!

Your vision is so clouded

Your vision is so clouded you cannot grasp the deeper concept of "God" or "The Father". Pray to gain insight into your ignorance and lack of insight. I sense much rebellion in you - Pray that you find the wherewithal to Love!
And to Francis, try not to be so engrossed in your personal philosophizing that you forget to add Love and consideration for others in your communications. You tend to come across as very haughty and proud. If you have testimony to give do so to the glory of the Creator and Universal Energy-Body - not to yourself or to the putting down of others.

Love conquers all!

reply to :Your vision is so clouded

Quote: Pray that you find the wherewithal to Love!

I hope that you pray to find the wherewithal to know. Knowing comes before everything - even love. You are the one totally lacking insight, you dickwad. A fact is a fact - truth is simply truth. It is unemotional and I don't give a rat's arse if it doesn't agree with your so-called pre-concieved deeper concept of "God" or "the Father". Show me one single thing that wasn't born of a woman.

Quite obvious that religion has had it's way with you ;-(

Simply sad for you ;-(

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