Philosophy Of Love For Life In Question

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Your philosophy, under my simple understanding of it, is portrayed in the dependence of two things.

One, to rid ourselves of the understanding of man and society as we know it (which apparently benefits only the few "educated" elite).

And two, to emulate nature.

In your understanding of things, to be a part of nature, is to love, and to share the fruits of your efforts with everyone else for no other reason than to "love". I am inclined to wonder then, in which geographical region you are accustomed to witnessing such actions? Nature is not kind, it is dominant and greedy. Natural beings seek only their own survival, and exploit the weaknesses in other "lesser" beings to accomplish their surety of existence. The only partnerships in nature are those that exist for the benefit of both parties. Nature does not teach equality of all things living, it teaches survival.

Don't misinterpret me. Given the choice, I would choose your proposed society vs. that of my current state of affairs. But to be fair, your society, built under the pretense that all things in existence are in such a state only as to contribute to the benefit of another being, would soon be discovered as false (through observations in nature) and the foundation would crumble.

Please give me a reason to believe otherwise. My neigh saying days have caused nothing but confusion and despair.

Re: Philosophy Of Love For Life In Question

Hello Bangoll,
There are too many documented instances of children brought up in the wild by animals, who grew up into teenagers or adults not comprehending anything to do with civilisation and ideas like "nature is hostile". The question we have to ask is, "Who created the hostility between MAN and nature?" We know, first hand, men and women who have had peaceful interactions with snakes (one was a brown snake) because THEIR attitude was peaceful and loving rather than fearful or aggressive.

Just about every man or woman who works with animals and people says that most of their time is spent educating people how to interact with the horse or dog, for example, rather than training the horse or dog to interact with the man or woman. Animals already know how to love unconditionally.

There are also many instances of men and women taking the time to become accepted by animals that could easily over power and even kill them. Gorillas, chimps, lions, etc. Have a look at this video: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6434 of a three year old girl living in Africa who plays with lions, also of the reunion between two men and a lion, after the men had brought up the lion from a baby, released it into the wild and then not seen it for a year or so. What is awesome is the lion has wild lions as friends who never met the men before but they are totally passive towards them: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/4021

We also recommend that you read The Ringing Cedars series about a woman living deep in the Siberian Taiga (forest) with the wild animals as her friends: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385

We are the ones who have created the hostility between our lives and nature, not the other way round. How you think, feel and act on (putting your energy/power of creation into) these feelings and thoughts creates the world in the image of your creation.

As part of the natural living world, we have access to the information of consciousness, which is the information of the living creator that every life form adds to and expands by freely offering the information of the life form that it is. Most of us choose not to tap into this information as we have been trained by our "education" to ignore it and listen to the "experts" who tell us that the civilisation of commerce is normal, that there is no other way to live and that nature is hostile. One of the most important things along the path to freedom, is learning to distinguish between the information of consciousness that tells us how to Do No Harm and to live peacefully as part of the living world, and the information of the civilisation of commerce that is designed to keep us maintaining and perpetuating that civilisation.

We cannot see the benefits of a system that is designed so that, for everyone who "succeeds", many, many others must suffer. We do not see the benefit of a civilisation of commerce that is destroying the natural world that we need to survive and keeping us enslaved to money, rules and regulations. You have no choice about being part of this world because, if you don't comply, you are swiftly and sharply put in your place, as often as necessary with increasing brutality. The civilisation of commerce does not offer freedom, joy and abundance for ALL which is what we are focused on creating. If this is what you would like to be part of, we recommend that you read the articles listed below which explain more fully what this is all about and how we can co-create the remedy.

By the way, we don't suggest "believing" in anything. Anything that requires belief is not of the natural world because you cannot experience it with your senses of creation and, without your belief, it would not exist. Do you have to believe in a tree for a tree to exist? Of course not, the tree is life sustainable and exists whether we believe in it or not. Do you have to believe in a messiah coming to solve all our problems? Yes, you do because there is nothing that you can experience with your senses of creation that can confirm that this is true and, if no one believed in the messiah, no one would be putting their thoughts and feelings into propping up the image of the messiah coming to save us and that image would not exist.

A tree can be touched, felt, seen, heard, smelled and tasted. The image of the messiah cannot.

And if a messiah is brought forward claiming he/she is the messiah and with all our senses of creation engaged (sight, sound, touch, taste, feel, smell), we need the first party God interacting with 1st party you, me, us, etc, to confirm that this messiah has been authorised by God as his/her/its representative. There must be no third parties involved otherwise the claim is a fairytale, is a fantasy, is invisible (invented/imagined out of thin air) and is BULLSHIT.

All our Love For Life work is focused on REMEDY

The Way of Love Or The Way Of Commerce by Arthur Cristian - Love For Life - 26th December 2009:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7096

All Of The Earth Is Sacred - Correspondence About Sovereignty, Fee Simple & Free Man Between Anonymous & Arthur Cristian - 11th January 2010:
Which includes: And their GOD of "Practice" is SATAN - A "PRACTISED" GOD:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7110

The Good Guys Who Protect The Status Quo by Arthur Cristian - Love For Life - 22nd January 2010:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7138

Where Is "Community Immunity"? by Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 1st February 2010:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7173

Peaceful Permaculture Community On The East Coast Of Australia Threatened With Act Of Terrorism (War) By Local Council
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 26th January 2010:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7174

What Shirt Are You Wearing? by Arthur Cristian - Love For Life - 15th January 2010:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7115

Letter From And Reply To Giltimi Of The Haisla Indigenous Tribe British Columbia Canada - Correspondence with Arthur Cristian - 24th January 2010:
http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/01/22/good-guys-who-protect-status-...

Sovereignty: The People's First Choice and Last Stand - Reply From Arthur Cristian To Thomas Anderson - 24th January 2010
http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/01/22/good-guys-who-protect-status-...

Freedom in Court, Again - The Courts Are Not There To Give Us Freedom
Reply From Arthur Cristian to Dr John Wilson 15th January 2010 4:15 PM
http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/01/22/good-guys-who-protect-status-...

Australian Satanism - Australia’s Global Satanic Legacy And Future (Part 1 to 3) By Frater 616 - Alpha Lodges Do Exist: - 2nd January 2010
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7103
and
SATANISM IS REAL AND IT RUNS THE WORLD by David Icke - David Icke Newsletter Preview - 17th January 2010
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7118

Every Dream Has A Creator As Does Atheism - Correspondence With Arthur Cristian - 24th January 2010
Re: Let Me Tell You That I Am An Absolutely Atheist Human Being:
http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/01/22/good-guys-who-protect-status-...

A Girl Talks To The Birds by Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 11th October 2009:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6964

A Do No Harm Community "KINDOM" Motherland In The Southern Highlands In Between Sydney & Canberra 26th December 2009:
AFTER FOUR YEARS WE HAVE FINALLY FOUND THE MOTHERLAND - NOW WE HAVE TO GET IT!:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7095

How Do We NOT SELL OUT Our Integrity, Sincerity, etc, And Still Generate Fictional $$$$$$$ In The Meantime......:
http://loveforlife.com.au/content/09/12/26/do-no-harm-community-kindom-m...

Fiona Cristian / Arthur Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office Part Nine - NOTICE AND DEMAND - LETTER TO PRU GOWARD MP - 15th December 2009:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7073

Many other articles, podcasts and a video can be found here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385

All the best

Conscious Love Always
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
action @ loveforlife.com.au
www.loveforlife.com.au
0418 203204 (int: 0011 61 418 203204)
PO Box 1320 Bowral 2576 NSW Australia

Simply sad for you ;-(

"There must be no third parties involved otherwise the claim is a fairytale, is a fantasy, is invisible (invented/imagined out of thin air) and is BULLSHIT."

Sadly, it seems that is your way ;-(

Yet there is hope!

For Miracles do happen.......

And i believe YOUR selfconsciousness will be revealed.

Are We There But Don't See Paradise? Giant Humans & Dinosaurs

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From: Christopher Grech
Date: Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 8:00 PM
Subject: Fw: Humans Skeleton---MUST SEE

Dear Everyone,
I hope that this email finds you in good health.
The below is proof that the Bible is right, when it mentioned giants.

This must be interesting no?

Kindest regards,
Christopher

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It's little John come home to roost!

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Giant Humans and Dinosaurs
From Website: BibleBelievers.org




This petrified finger found in cretaceous limestone, belonged to a "prehistoric" human. Broken short of the middle joint, it measures 7.6 cm (3 inches). At full length it would measure about 15 cm (6 inches). In the photo, it is compared to a regular full-length finger. Excavations of this limestone has also revealed a child's tooth and human hair.

Sectioning reveals the typical porous bone structure expected in a human finger. Cat-scan and MRI identified joints and traced tendons throughout the length of the fossil.

Cat-scan shows dark areas interpreted as the interior of bones and marrow. Areas less dense than surrounding stones, easily pass X-rays, causing darkening of the image. Black area is caused by sectioning.


This dinosaur footprint in cretaceous limestone on the banks of the Paluxy River is approximately 30 cm (one foot) across, and located with similar tracks. Early excavations in this area revealed human footprints inside the dinosaur tracks leading to rumors that the human prints had claws–later excavations uncovered human footprints up to 64 cm long (25 inches) next to the dinosaur prints—this discounted the doubters. A human handprint was also found. This confirms that dinosaurs occupied the arbitrary and spurious "cretaceous" period of geological history. Human prints contemporary with dinosaurs contradict modern evolution theories because mankind was not to evolve for another 75 to 100 million years.


One of many human footprints contemporary with dinosaurs taken from the Paluxy River located in Dinosaur Park near Glen Rose, Texas. Pictured with my foot, it exceeds 45 cm (18 inches) in length. The cross-sectional cuts determined by compression studies that it was a woman's footprint. Estimates indicate her stature approximately 305 cm (10 feet) and 454 kg (1,000 lbs). Several strata of human prints with dinosaur prints have been excavated in this park. According to Dr. Carl Baugh, the archeologist who coordinated the excavations, these strata were laid down during the first few days of Noah's flood when water levels were low enough to allow daily tidal changes to form layers of mud so fleeing creatures could seek higher ground—the upper strata showed no prints.

Obviously the people who lived contemporary with dinosaurs were intelligent, and the footprints indicate that they were quite human, as the large toe on primates is located close to the heel to facilitate clinging to branches.

Dr. Hilton Hinderliter of Apollo Campus Pennsylvania

continues below: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7178
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From The Excellent Website: SteveQuayle.com


Text Courtesy of Proving The Bible.com Website

The following chart represents the comparative sizes of giants throughout history.

A. Present day modern man which averages about 6-feet tall + or - several inches or more.

B. 15-foot human skeleton found in southeast Turkey in late 1950's in the Euphrates valley during road construction. Many tombs containing giants were uncovered here. This pertains to the picture of the giant human femur and myself above.

C. Maximinus Thrax Ceaser of Rome 235-238 A.D. This was an 8' 6" skeleton.

D. Goliath was about 9 feet + or - a few inches. I Samuel 17:4 late 11th century.

E. King Og spoken of in Deuteronomy 3:11 whose iron bedstead was approximately 14-feet by 6-feet wide. King Og was at least 12-feet tall, yet some claim up to 18.

F. A 19'6" human skeleton found in 1577 A.D. under an overturned oak tree in the Canton of Lucerne.

G. 23-foot tall skeleton found in 1456 A.D. beside a river in Valence, France.

H. A 25' 6 " skeleton found in 1613 A.D. near the castle of Chaumont in France. This was claimed to be a nearly complete find.

I. Almost beyond comprehension or believability was the find of the two separate 36-foot human remains uncovered by Carthaginians somewhere between 200-600 B.C.

Source for the above information:
Joe Taylor, Mt. Blanco Fossil Museum
124 West Main St., P.O. Box 550, Crosbyton, TX 79322
(805) 675-7777 (office) and (806) 675-2421 (fax)
Mt Blanco.com
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Jonathan Gray - The Killing of Paradise Planet


International explorer, archaeologist and author, Jonathan Gray has traveled the world to gather data on ancient mysteries. He has penetrated some largely unexplored areas, including parts of the Amazon headwaters. The author has also led expeditions to the bottom of the sea and to remote mountain and desert regions of the world. He lectures internationally.
Link: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7882254197636889307 - 52 Minutes

See many other Jonathan Gray videos and articles here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3082 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/08/01/05/archaeology-answers-about-anc...

Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7123

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State University, studied the evidence presented at the Glen Rose, who excavations and stated: "I would have to say that the belief in evolution is in a state of terminal illness but its death will only be admitted by a new generation of scientists whose minds have not been prejudiced by the type of education now prevalent in the nation's public schools, an education which starts with the belief that evolution has happened, which interprets all evidence according to that faith and simply discards any evidence which cannot be fitted into the evolutionary framework" (Quoted from "Dinosaurs" by Dr. Carl E. Baugh, 1987. Promise Publishing Co., Orange, CA 92667.


This interesting photograph is of a hammer found in similar strata. It's iron head and wooden handle are solidified in sandstone. Metallurgical studies show that it was constructed of a type of iron that could not have been made under present atmospheric conditions. It is believed that before the flood our atmosphere was compressed to approximately twice its current density, and no ultraviolet radiation.

In June 1934, the Hahn family discovered a rock, sitting loose on a ledge beside a waterfall outside of London, Texas. The site primarily consists of 75-100

Modern industry cannot consistently produce iron castings with this quality, as evidenced by test results that show bubbles and density variations that have caused pump and valve bodies to break. The handle eye is partially coalifed with quartz and calcite crystalline inclusions, oval shaped, and roughly 1" x 1/2".

A Personal Testimony

Several years ago, I heard about human footprints being found alongside dinosaur tracks in a Cretaceous limestone in the vicinity of Glen Rose, Texas. There were newspaper accounts in both the Fort Worth Star-Telegram (June 17, 1982) and The Dallas Morning News. Also, Dallas area television stations Channel 5 and Channel 8 reported on the finds. I did not think much about this at the time but later, because of my extensive reading on the subject of evolution, I was reminded of it. In January, 1995, I made a trip to Glen Rose specifically to visit the Creation Evidences Museum and find out all I could about these footprints.

I discovered that the excavation work there is done for about two weeks in summer each year as the Paluxy River is too high in the other seasons. Also, the landowner allows the digging to proceed for only this limited time.

I visited the area of the river bank and observed for myself the large and clear left-right trails of dinosaur prints. Many are 6-10 inches deep, 2-3 feet across, and show a three-toed foot. I decided to visit the museum and find out all I could about these footprints.

During a long conversation that afternoon at the museum, I learned that human tracks had been uncovered in this area since at least 1910. Geologist Clifford Burdick, Ph.D., verified human tracks here in the 1940's. The work of the individuals connected now with the museum began about 1982. Since then, 57 footprints of man have been found in excavations along the Paluxy River and in at least one other site in the same general area. During my visit, I was shown casts of some of the footprints found previously. One section of rock is displayed which was cut out of the river bed because it contains one of the clearest footprints found to date. A cross-sectioning of one of the best finds is also displayed. Pressure laminations consistent with a human footprint in mud are clearly shown.

During our visit, I was shown casts of some of the footprints found previously. One section of rock is displayed which was cut out of the river bed because it contains one of the clearest footprints found to date. A cross-sectioning of one of the best finds is also displayed. Pressure laminations consistent with a human footprint in mud are clearly shown.


Several well-credentialed scientists had witnessed and testified to the genuineness of the discoveries. Media from around the country had witnessed at least some of them. Evolutionists, however, dismissed the human footprints as carvings of Indians, the tracks of a sick dolphin, a case of misidentification, or even an outright fraud. One gentleman was so threatened by the discoveries that he actually took a hammer, went to the river, and broke up some of the footprints to make them useless for study.

Some of the human footprints have been found right next to those of a dinosaur. One was even found inside the animal track! The relatively soft limestone rock is subject to rapid weathering from exposure. The human tracks are shallow and look like a footprint made in mud or wet cement. Because of this the details of the human prints are lost within days of the time of exposure.

I knew that the human footprints, found side by side with dinosaur tracks, if genuine, destroyed the theory of evolution all by themselves. Still, I wanted to see for myself. See agoracosmopolitan.com

Along with two of my friends, Ted and Jorge Gomez, I went to Glen Rose to observe and participate in an excavation on June 19, 1995. We helped to remove the exposed rock ledge at the work site. This ledge covered the limestone layer in which the tracks had been previously discovered at other sites along the river. Each portion of the ledge we removed (approximately 50 sf.) weighed at least 2000 pounds. The removal of each piece took several men with sledge hammers and three heavy duty jacks hours of heavy work to accomplish. No Indian had ever lifted and then replaced this covering rock to carve anything! A dinosaur track, but no human track, was discovered on our first day.

Jorge and I returned to work on another site on June 29, 1995. This site was about 150 feet down river from our earlier location. Both sites were chosen because previous findings indicated a trail of footprints might extend to them. Dr. Carl Baugh (Ph.D. Anthropology, M. Archeology), was in charge of the excavation. Several of the people there had been working for the entire two week period.

When we arrived Dr. Baugh was beginning to carefully excavate clay from a depression in the target limestone. Several of us worked with hand trowels to remove the 3-4 inches of clay which overlay the fossil layer. This clay had been uncovered when the exposed covering rock had been removed the previous day. It was quite obvious that the clay layer had never been disturbed since its deposition. I worked within 3 feet of Dr. Baugh.

Once he suspected that the depression on which he was working could possibly be a human track, all other activity in the area ceased. Everyone then focused their attention on his work. Dr. Baugh removed the clay with utmost care and no chipping or sculpting occurred. Several of those in attendance testified to this on camera and that the site was previously unexposed or disturbed in any way. The rock ledge and clay had completely covered the depression until we removed them.

The depression in the limestone was clearly made by a large human foot. It was a right foot. The big toe and three rightmost toes made very clear impressions and rock ridges were found between the toe marks. The second toe made a lesser impression which is consistent with the way humans walk. There was a rock bump in front of each of the toes made when they pushed up the mud. The shape fit the arch and also the right side of a foot. The heel was not clear but looked as if the individual had slid in the mud. The depth of the impressions was consistent with the depth of tracks made by someone walking in mud. The toes were round and smooth. Everything was in the proper proportion.

Since I had the largest foot in attendance, size 13, my bare foot was used as a comparison for the extensive video tapes and photographs that documented the excavation. As my foot was both beside the footprint and in it for quite a while, I was able to examine it very closely.

Without any doubt, it was a human footprint.

I testify that everything I witnessed I have reported faithfully and without exaggeration.

M. Coppedge

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Plaster casts of similar footprints found in Australia are in the possession of Rex Gilroy, together with many other interesting artifacts. In old river gravels near Bathurst, NSW, huge stone artifacts—clubs, pounders, adzes, chisels, knives and hand axes—all of tremendous weight, lie scattered over a wide area. These weigh anything from 8, 10, 15, to 21 and 25 pounds, implements which only men of tremendous proportions could possibly have made and used. Estimates for the actual size of these men range from 10 to 12 feet tall and over, weighing from 500 to 600 lbs.

A fossicker searching the Winburndale River north of Bathurst discovered a large quartzitised fossil human molar tooth, far too big for any normal modern man. A similar find was made near Dubbo, N.S.W.

Prospectors working in the Bathurst district in the 1930's frequently reported coming across numerous large human footprints fossilised in shoals of red jasper.

Even more impressive were fossil deposits found by naturalist Rex Gilroy around Bathurst. He excavated from a depth of 6 feet (2 m) below the surface a fossil lower back molar tooth measuring 67 min. in length by 50mm. x 42 mm. across the crown. If his measurements are correct, the owner would have been at least 25 ft. tall, weighing well over 1,000 lbs!

At Gympie, Queensland, a farmer, Keith Walker, was ploughing his field when he turned up the large fragment of the back portion of a jaw which still possessed the hollow for a missing lower back molar tooth. This is now in Rex Gilroy's possession. The owner of the tooth would have stood at 10 feet tall.

In the Megalong Valley in the Blue Mountains NSW, a Mr P. Holman found in ironstone protruding from a creek bank the deeply impressed print of a large human-like foot. The print was that of the instep, with all 5 toes clearly shown. This footprint measures 7 inches across the toes. Had the footprint been complete it would have been at least 2 feet (60 cm in length, appropriate to a 12 foot human. However, the largest footprint found on the Blue Mountains must have belonged to a man 20 feet tall!

A set of 3 huge footprints was discovered near Mulgoa, south of Penrith, N.S.W. These prints, each measuring 2 ft long and 7 inches across the toes, are 6 ft. apart, indicating the stride of the 12 ft. giant who left them. These prints were preserved by volcanic lava and ash flows which "occurred millions of years" before man is supposed to have appeared on the Australian continent (if one is to believe the evolutionary theory):

Noel Reeves found monstrous footprints near Kempsey, N.S.W. in sandstone beds on the Upper Macleay River. One print shows a toe 4 inches (10cm) long and the total toe-span is 10 inches (25cm) — suggesting that the owner of the print may have been 17 feet tall.

It is certain the Aborigines were not the first to reach Australia. Anthropologists maintain mainland Aborigines are in fact quite recent arrivals who ate their predecessors who were akin to the New Guinea natives.

Aborigines themselves admit in their ancient folklore that this land was inhabited by several groups of men, as well as giants, before they settled here.

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Fossilised human footprints have also been discovered in Sweden, and in Mexico.

Giant skeletons have been discovered throughout the United States.

Photos of giants from recent times.

An article from Strand magazine (December,1895) reprinted in "Traces of the Elder Faiths of Ireland" by W.G. Wood-Martin mentions this fossilized giant discovered during mining operations in County Antrim, Ireland: "Pre-eminent among the most extraordinary articles ever held by a railway company is the fossilized Irish giant, which is at this moment lying at the London and North-Western Railway Company's Broad street goods depot, and a photograph of which is reproduced here. . . This monstrous figure is reputed to have been dug up by a Mr. Dyer whilst prospecting for iron ore in County Antrim. The principal measurements are: entire length, 12ft. 2in.; girth of chest, 6ft. 6in.; and length of arms, 4ft. 6in. There are six toes on the right foot. The gross weight is 2 tons 15cwt.; so that it took half a dozen men and a powerful crane to place this article of lost property in position for the Strand magazine artist. Dyer, after showing the giant in Dublin, came to England with his queer find and exhibited it in Liverpool and Manchester at sixpence, sixpence a head, attracting scientific men as well as gaping sightseers".

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The Original Sin 1/3
The Original Sin 2/3
The Original Sin 3/3
But the Woman being deceived, was in the Transgression

The seed of the serpent produced Cain. If his daddy was a great big giant of a fellow, what would Cain be like? His daddy. And he went to the land of Nod and took one of his sisters. Only way he could, there were no other females. . .

Cain went to the land of Nod, and produced giants. They were smart educated, intelligent people. Is that right? They were builders, inventors, scientists: Not through the seed of the righteous, but through the seed of the serpent. They were scientists, builders, and great men, educators; the Scripture says so. They worked brass; they worked iron; they worked metals. They invented things. They tempered different metals and built houses.

The Scripture says one of those giants had fourteen inch fingers. Now, your finger is just as long as your closed hand. Open it up; that would be a twenty-eight inch hand.

And they were scoffers at the seed of the woman: Noah, the righteous. Jesus said, "As it was in the days of Noah, so will it be when the Son of man is revealed." That's today. And it is so. Genesis 6:1-4, "And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare them children who became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."

". . . daughters of man . . ." signifies the MORTALITY of the serpent seed in contrast to the immortality of the sons of God. Their EARTHLY origin is contrasted with the heavenly origin of the "Sons of God," created in the likeness of Father God by His spoken Word. The "daughters of man" are Cain's race, the earthly, carnal offspring of the Satan-incarnate Serpent, they are hybrid and not a spoken Word of God's creation.

The phrase, "came in unto" refers in this connection only to the male who visits a woman's quaters and describes the immorality of "free love" which has repeated in this day along with miscegenation between the descendants of Cain and the children of Adam as Jesus foretold and lauded as "multiculturalism" (Genesis 30:16; 38:16; Matthew 24:37; Luke 17:26-27).

"Men of renown" speaks of men with an enduring name. Genesis describes these people as great builders and engineers, musicians, inventers, craftsmen, unbelievers and scoffers at the righteous of Adam's race. The same race are renouned in these occupations today. Undaunted by the Flood their descendants declare " . . .let us make us a name . . ." and erect a tower in carnal defiance of the Lord God.

The Hebrew word "Nephilim" is rendered "giants" in our English Bibles, but the form of the word indicates a verbal adjective or noun of passive or neuter signification, from Naphal, "to fall" and means "the fallen ones," that is, the descendents of Cain. Afterwards the term is transferred to their offspring, the only other passage in which it occurs.

In their evil report of the land of Canaan, the ten spies say, "All the people we saw in it were men of great stature. And there we saw the Nephilim, the sons of Anak, descended from the Nephilim: and we seemed to ourselves as grasshoppers, and so did we to them" (Numbers 13:32-33).

It was doubtless the mention of the great stature of these men, together with the Septuagint rendering that suggested our translation "giants." However the roots of the Greek word, have no reference to great stature and signify "earth-born". The meaning of "giants" in our sense of the term is secondary, arising from the fact that these beings of mixed birth are said to have displayed a monstrous growth and strength of body.

God commanded Moses to exterminate the whole race of these people from the Land of Canaan whom He said would corrupt their morals and pervert their heart to paganism if they intermarried or made agreements with them. Sadly, history, the Bible and telephone directories in every city record how the sons of Israel intermarried with daughters of men until today their identity and their land has been usurped by "men of renown"—clever inventers, actors, musicians, businessmen, singers, writers, traders, bankers and outright liars.

The Lord Jesus said, ". . . the children of this world are in their lineage wiser than the children of Light" (Luke 16:8).

Paul wrote, "Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: for which things' sake the wrath of God comes on the children of disobedience" (Colossians 3:5-6).

Immediately after the commission of the antediluvian sin, God pronounced the doom of the world. And prophecy assures us the present-day great rebellion will call forth the Lord Jesus in flaming Fire to take vengeance. Only those whose Names are written on the Lamb's Book of Life will not be deceived—the Bride of Christ manifesting the sons of God, and the 144,000 elect Israelites who are Israelites of the flesh and of the faith.

Links to further resources:-
Dinosaur Tracks and Giant Men
Genesis Park
Giants around the world giants.htm

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Link to this webpage: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/giants.htm

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Are We There But Don't See Paradise? Giant Humans & Dinosaurs

love that stuff!

check these out Mark.......

Jonathan Gray - The Killing of Paradise Planet


International explorer, archaeologist and author, Jonathan Gray has traveled the world to gather data on ancient mysteries. He has penetrated some largely unexplored areas, including parts of the Amazon headwaters. The author has also led expeditions to the bottom of the sea and to remote mountain and desert regions of the world. He lectures internationally.
Link: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7882254197636889307 - 52 Minutes

See many other Jonathan Gray videos and articles here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3082 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/08/01/05/archaeology-answers-about-anc...

Hidden Discoveries


International explorer, archaeologist and author Jonathan Gray has traveled the world to gather data on ancient mysteries. Over the past 37 years, he has penetrated some largely unexplored areas, including parts of the Amazon headwaters. He has also led expeditions to the bottom of the sea and to remote mountain and desert regions of the world. In the course of his explorations, Jonathan began to uncover evidence of surprising "out of place" artifacts. According to what he was taught at school, these were impossible! They simply should not exist! And these were not just isolated anomalies. There was a global pattern to them, suggesting an ancient worldwide civilization of astonishing proportions. His book, Dead Men's Secrets, catalogues more than a thousand pieces of evidence of a lost super science and technology, including dozens of achievements ahead of our day. Archeologist Jonathan Gray described a variety of anomalous and ancient discoveries. These findings are evidence of a "super science and technology" that civilizations around the world once had but lost, he said. The ability to lift enormous weights through "sound waves" was documented in Egyptian records, as well as in Bolivia and India, and there was also a capacity to have lights that can burn for thousands of years, he detailed.

There's a human civilization living today in ancient underground tunnel systems near the Andes in South America, he reported. Their tunnels use a sensor-like lighting system in which the lights grow brighter as a person approaches. Many of the tunnel walls appear to be glass, as though they were cut out, and a greenish radiating light helps to grow plants underground. Gray said he hopes to conduct an expedition at this secretive location.

Among some of the other reports he touched on-- evidence of a Celtic visit to New Zealand 4,000 years ago, an ancient smelter for refining gold in Oklahoma, a man turned into glass crystals inside a subterranean chamber in India, a bullet hole found in an Egyptian mummy, and the discovery of 8-foot tall skeletons that were six-fingered and six-toed in New Mexico.
March 27th, 2007
http://www.beforeus.com
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2007/03/27.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g-T6Ud110c

Hidden Discoveries: Part One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g-T6Ud110c - 9 Minutes 30 Seconds

Hidden Discoveries: Part Two: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jzok29ugiS4 - 9 Minutes 51 Seconds

Hidden Discoveries: Part Three: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWzvUM2AGeE - 9 Minutes 55 Seconds

Hidden Discoveries: Part Four: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjib9hZBKHQ - 10 Minutes

Hidden Discoveries: Part Five: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kxSdGDGreE - 10 Minutes 1 Second

Hidden Discoveries: Part Six: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKyMBLW59B8 - 10 Minutes

Hidden Discoveries: Part Seven: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB8IIL_OQT4 - 10 Minutes

Hidden Discoveries: Part Eight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyK0HCA6kdI - 10 Minutes

Hidden Discoveries: Part Nine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DERyf5ivSvw - 5 Minutes 8 Seconds

Jonathan Gray - Ark of the Covenant - Ronn Wyatt


Surprising Discoveries presented by Jonathan Gray. Goes into some detail about the findings by Ronn Wyatt and Jonathan at Skull Hill, and the finding of Jesus' blood.
Jonathan Gray - Ark of the Covenant: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=99311203091155341 - 2 Hours 20 Minutes

Jonathan Gray - Who's Playing Jesus Games?


International explorer, archaeologist, lecturer and author, Jonathan Gray was interviewed by Dr. Bill Deagle on the Nutrimedical Report radio show, on the GCN network, Nov. 26th, 2008. The topic was his latest book WHO'S PLAYING JESUS GAMES? Gray brings forth compelling evidence about the true origin of Christianity, dispelling New Age propaganda about Jesus being a copied deity of Pagan origins, answering questions, such as: 1. Did early historians never mention Jesus? 2. Was Jesus' resurrection a hoax, hallucination, or history? 3. Do Gospel writers really "contradict" one another? 4. What about the Dead Sea Scrolls? 5. Are there "missing" books of the Bible? This is a gripping and compelling report, based upon scripture, archaeological discoveries and over 25 years of ground-breaking research. Discover who the real Jesus is, and who the fakes are! See: http://www.beforeus.com/shopcart_ebooks.html
Jonathan Gray - Who's Playing Jesus Games?: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4335657064255356870 - 34 Minutes 23 Seconds

MEGALITHOMANIA 2008: Semir Sam Osmanagich - The Bosnian Valley of the Pyramids - 50 Minutes 24 Seconds
220 Meters Bosnian Pyramids Discovered And Ignored By Mass-Media

The Bosnian Pyramid, Visocica Hill, is the first European pyramid to be discovered and is located in the heart of Bosnia, in the town of Visoko. The pyramid has all the elements: four perfectly shaped slopes pointing toward the cardinal points, a flat top and an entrance complex. On top of the pyramid are also the ruins of a Medieval walled town, once the base of a Bosnian king Tvrtko of Kotromanic (1338-1391). Because of its similarities to the Pyramid of the Sun in Teotihuacan, Mexico, it has been named the “Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun” ('Bosanska Piramida Sunca').

There are also a four more ancient structures on the site, the Bosnian Pyramid of the Moon ('Bosanska Piramida Mjeseca'), Bosnian Pyramid of the Dragon ( 'Bosanska Piramida Zmaja'), Bosnian Pyramid of the Love ('Bosanska Piramida Ljubavi') and Temple of the Earth, ('Hram Zemlje').'We have already dug out stone blocks which I believe are covering the pyramid', said Semir (Sam) Osmanagic, a Bosnian American archaeologist who has spent the last 15 years studying the pyramids of Latin America. 'We found a paved entrance plateau and discovered underground tunnels'..... (October 2005)

MEGALITHOMANIA 2008: Semir Sam Osmanagich - The Bosnian Valley of the Pyramids - 50 Minutes 24 Seconds - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7114044731466139530&hl=en#

Filmed at the annual Megalithomania Conference on 17th & 18th May 2008 in Glastonbury......(Also available on a high-quality DVD from www.megalithomania.co.uk)..... The existence of a monumental pyramidal complex in Central Bosnia, stone spheres and tunnel system (town of Visoko) has caught the world by surprise and shook the global scientific community, because it may require a part of world history to be rewritten. Semir Sam Osmanagich discovered these amazing structures in 2005, and an Egyptian team of experts confirmed in September 2007 that these structures in Visoko were man-made. With a total of five huge stone structures, perfectly oriented, followed by the network of the underground tunnels it represent a sensational archaeological discovery, and it serves as a testimony about one civilization that we know nothing about..... Sam is presently the Chairman of the Board of Directors of the ‘Archaeological Park: Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun Foundation’, Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegowina, and is the author of ten books about ancient civilizations (The Mayan World, Peruvian, Mexican, and Pacific civilizations) published internationally. His PhD Thesis was on The Maya at the University of Sarajevo, Bosnia......http://www.piramidasunca.ba/en/

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From: Love For Life Campaign
To: Mark
Cc: Ant; Christopher Grech
Sent: Fri, February 5, 2010 7:31:23 AM
Subject: Giant Humans - From 6' to 36' - Re: Humans Skeleton---MUST SEE

Interesting how Christopher Grech took all video links from the Love For Life website: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/08/01/05/archaeology-answers-about-anc... and removed anything to do with Love For Life so he can protect his belief (and the beliefs of others) in the Bible. Obviously the Love For Life work is too threatening to his belief systems and thus he removes all credit for the Love For Life Astronomy/Archaeology work posted since January 2008 so that no one linked to Christopher's mailing list, etc, knows where the information came from so that they are not exposed to the Love For Life work.

Everything we post like: Giant Humans and Dinosaurs: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7178 are always linked back to where the information was derived, where possible.

We always give credit where credit is due!

Lets have some transparency here and allow people to explore where they wish.

Obviously this all came about after we posted the article: The Good Guys Who Protect The Status Quo by Arthur Cristian Love For Life 22nd January 2010: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7138 which had the link to Jonathan Gray's video: The Killing of Paradise Planet - 52 Minutes - and many other embedded video links to all the other videos listed including: Archaeology Answers About Ancient Civilizations: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3081

The Sun Goes Around The Earth (MAN)

As uncompromised archaeology is proving - see here: Video: Jonathan Gray - The Killing of Paradise Planet - 52 Minutes: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7123 and here: Archaeology Answers About Ancient Civilizations: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3081 for fascinating information about what the earth used to be like, although there are a few beliefs (demonology) archaeologist Jonathan Gray has that are the result of brainwashing and have no evidence to back them - e.g. the earth is round and is a planet of planets. Also important to recognise is that, just as we are the destroyers of the earth, so we were the co-creators of the marvellous earth Jonathan attributes to the Son of God - all this New World Order Civilisation has been tried before without success, leading only to chaos and the destruction of the life sustainability of the Earth (MAN). Obviously the current batch of Establishment reincarnees haven't learnt the lessons from the stuff ups of their ancestors. They failed with Horus and Zeus and now they are going to produce Jesus (Jezeus) The Christ.

Remember that the Establishment has complete control of all space technology, engineering and science (including official astronomy) and many scientists have gone missing or died in suspicious circumstances. One of the biggest lies of all, if not the biggest, that which says the earth is round and goes around the sun, has to be preserved at all costs. (See: Astronomy - Geocentricity - Heliocentricity - Does The Earth Go Around The Sun Or Does The Sun Go Around The Earth?: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3455). When we finally realise that the earth is the centre (the heart) of creation (the universe that MAN thinks and feels) and that MAN is the living embodiment of the living creator rather than at the mercy of the elements of the universe, all the other lies, delusions and illusions of the Establishment are turned on their head and revealed for the bullshit they really are.(See: All Of The Earth Is Sacred by Arthur Cristian 9th January 2010: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7110). Unfortunately, the work of Jordan, Bill and Kerry (and Lord Monckton) only supports the deception because it encourages us to keep focusing on the lies and deception rather than focusing on the truth that we, as MAN, are creation and are more powerful than law, government, statues, institutes, commerce, science, occults, esoterics, aliens, UFO's, saviours, messiahs, etc. Believing that there are influences more powerful than us is what makes us accept the Jezeuses and the aliens.

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What we are documenting in the Love For Life website is the fact that we have been heavily lied to about who we are and our true history. The Bible is just another example of what we call the James Bond syndrome at work; there are many truths in the Bible but it is also heavily laced with lies so that we, in accepting the truths that we recognise, we also accept the lies. James Bond (the lies) has sneaked into the compound and is already wreaking havoc with much more to come unless we wake up and stop feeding the lies with our energy/power of creation.

We are always open to debate on anything relevant to truth and freedom but we have found that many Christians (not all), while willing to debate about many matters, become very sneaky or start character assassinations (including back-stabbing), using these as distractions to avoid an honest, pure and sincere debate/confrontation, or they go very quiet and/or stop debating as soon as they are asked a few questions about their faith. They do not like answering questions asked of them if the answers threaten and undermine their faith (does the creator conceal the truth? - does the creator play cat and mouse? - is the creator in fear of darkness? - is the creator all powerful?).

These are all Clear and Present Danger signs of being possessed by DEMONS. They fight to protect the darkness that has become them. The light of truth is not what a demon seeks to be exposed to. After our experience with the crime syndicate operation in Australia, it was "all cards off the table". We realised that we had to follow the truth no matter where it took us, which is why we are always open to debate about ANY of the insights we share and, if someone can prove us wrong, we will drop whatever it was that we previously thought to be the truth. If we are to get to the bottom of the great deception that has been, and still is being, waged against us, we MUST all be willing to closely examine EVERYTHING we have been taught to think and feel so we work out if we are working with demonology or the information of creation of the living God that we are all part off (if we remember).

The Bible was created by the Satanists to be used as one of its primary tools for ushering in their new civilisation of commerce (NWO).

The James Bond Syndrome Bible is being used as the CON of all CONS; its SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECIES (including those of many others like Nostradamus and the Mayan Calendar) were engineered by the Satanists and created by every man, woman and child who felt, thought and acted on the information. This continues as generations pass their belief to the next generation, who pass them to the next generation and so on. This way, the Satanists are ensured of a continuing source of energy to maintain their dead world and their demons and apparitions. They are assured of their power and control. Just because a belief has been around for a long time, it is not necessarily true!

We see every man and woman as our brother and sister and this is not an attack on the men and women who consider themselves Christians. All we are doing is pointing out the demons that keep us trapped. Those who turn their backs or deliver the character assassinations are not acting out of love; they either have an agenda or are arrogant or ignorant about the demons that are possessing them. A man or woman of truth has nothing to fear because they know that the man or woman they are, are not their beliefs. A man or woman of love has the attributes of the creator and walks the talk of the creator.

Just one lie mixed in with mountains of truths is more than enough to bring destruction into goodness. This is the signature tune of the Establishment; of the Satanic world, just a little lie from the judge, just a little lie from the politician, just a little lie from the priest, just a little fluoride in the water, just a little MSG in the food, just a little poison in the rivers, just a little destruction of the rainforest, just a little vaccination here, just a little mercury there, just a little aspartame in the lolly wrapped in nice packaging here, just a little lie in the nice shaking hands banking commercial there, just a little lie behind the image of the nice politician kissing the baby here, etc, etc. The list is endless, literally endless. Niceness (James Bond Syndrome) is one of our greatest enemies of all..... We are all literally drowning in niceness today.

Watch out for the Bible........ it might just be nice too!!!!!!!

And watch out for all the deceivers working against ALL of us.. there ALL nice too........!!!!!

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

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Christopher Grech wrote:
Dear All,

Good afternoon, and I hope that this email finds you all well.

I wonder how I was copied in. When I sent the email to Ant, I forwarded it and did not know the origin, and therefore, it would be difficult to get to grips with the situation.

Furthermore, it was not a publication, just an email.

I understand that Arthur Cristian, may consciously mean well, but he is tricked by Satan. Since he does not believe in the Bible, that makes him an opposer, like Satan is. Arthur does get many other things right, like the NWO, the cons of politicians and scientists, etc. I have repeatedly written to Arthur about God, and Christ, and the Bible, and hence this argument is closed!

Frankly, exposing Arthur's site of Love for Life, is against God's will, and hence do not want to expose that component of the web-site, with is harmful to ones' soul. As Satan, has got to grips of control with 99.99999999999% of humankind, he wants to have total dominion.

Peace and prayers upon you,

Christopher Grech

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7th February 2010 2:29 AM

Hello Christopher
Thanks for the courtesy of replying and sharing your life views with us... the witnesses. I reply in this colour

Christopher Grech wrote:
Hello Arthur,
Good afternoon, and I thank you for your reply.

It is not my style to be dragged into this kind of discussion, but will nevertheless answer you, in front of these two witnesses, Mark and Ant.
Please see my answers to your paragraphs below, after my initials CG.

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From: Love For Life Campaign
To: Christopher Grech
Cc: Mark ; Ant
Sent: Fri, February 5, 2010 2:21:49 PM
Subject: Re: Giant Humans - From 6' to 36' - Re: Humans Skeleton---MUST SEE

Hello to the messenger of...........???

Hhhhmmmmmm lets just wait and see exactly who and what you represent Christopher.......

CG: I honour Father (God) and His Son (Christ), and to try to be a good disciple of Christ. I am NOT a Christian, because they usually are full of idolatry, and go against what God and Christ told everyone on earth, via the Bible.

Where is the incontrovertible evidence that the living God you speak/write of, a 1st party, wrote the Bible? Without a first party living God backing the claim that he/she/it is the creator of the Bible, the claim is as NOTHING, it has no standing. There is no living-sentient God or MAN/WOMAN, a 1st party, taking full-responsibility for this claim before living-sentient men and women of a tribe, village or community.

Hearsay that suggests God wrote the Bible is not sufficient to back the claim that God is the 1st party creator of the Bible. Without a living God to back the claim that the Bible is its/his/her creation, the claim defaults back to the claimer who must then bring forward incontrovertible evidence that the living God wrote the Bible, i.e a letter or audio or video tape of the living God telling us that he/she/it wrote the Bible and that he/she/it has authorised the man or woman making the claim to represent him/her/it. The claimer should also provide the address of the living God so that we can verify the claims of the claimer with the living God first hand.

If such proof cannot be produced, then the claimer can be seen to be supporting the psychological extortion, bribery, blackmail and fraud contained in the Bible and by those who peddle and profit from it.

If you, in the private, wish to believe in the Bible as the word of God, then you have every right to do so but, if you espouse your beliefs publicly, or with others in the private, with the aim of getting others to believe in the Bible as the word of God, then you are doing great harm if you do not admit that you have no evidence for the claim you make. If there is no evidence that God wrote the Bible, then what you believe is a fiction, a fairytale and others need to be given full disclosure upfront that you have no evidence to back your claim and that you take full responsibility for the claims made in the Bible, in the absence of anyone else to do so.

Also, without the living God coming forward to make the claim that he has a son, known as the Son of God or Christ, how are we to know that this is so? We already know that we cannot believe the Bible because it has no backer, so where else can we be given proof by the living God that Christ is his son?

Ant, Mark and I can all stand up as first parties to confirm that the work with our names written underneath have, in fact, been written by us. We can back the claim and can be visited to confirm that we exist.

As an honourable and distinguished MAN with good standing, "Now", please back your claims with SUBSTANCE Christopher.

CG: I would do my best to substantiate, what I write.

Lets see/hear/touch/smell/taste/feel the life-sustainable substance (the evidence) of the living God, 1st party to 1st party.

CG: The evidence is all around you. Can't you see the wood because of the trees, or does one have ears to hear, and eyes to see? The same is true for a believer in God. Those who do not, are spiritually blind.

We have been saying for years in the body of the Love For Life work that the evidence of the existence of a living creator and its living information is all around us in the living world of nature. Why, then, do we need the Bible if all the living information of the living creator is found in nature? Its absurd to think that on one hand, living nature contains all the living information of the living God yet on the other hand, the Bible, promoted as the living word of God, is not living (has no life/will embodied), can't represent itself, can't think or feel or talk or sing or contemplate or negotiate or contract with the living and needs 3rd parties (of the living), to perform on its behalf. This clearly reveals that the Bible is a dead-corpse. The Bible can't even drink or eat or breathe or walk or poo, is not part of the sensitive eco system of nature, and required immense destruction to the living nature of God to manufacture this dead-corpse. Yes, we can see the woods for the trees only that more trees, plants, creatures, streams, hills, valleys, mountains, etc, are being destroyed to produce the supposed living word (and instructions) of God, the Bible, leaving behind large voids of emptiness and nothingness, dead-spaces once filled with the enriched joyous living information of the living creator!!!!!!

If you claim the Bible is the living Gods bible lets hear it from the tongue of the living God, the 1st party to all of us 1st parties.

Please arrange a time and location suitable for all of us, when we living sentient MAN can all meet with 1st party living God to hear God assert that the Bible is his/her/its Bible?

CG: We can arrange the place and time as of now. God has spoken to many men in our history, and as a testimony we have the Bible. There are no defects in the Bible, only our vision of God the Father, is imperfect. All prophecies in the Bible, have come true, and the last 1% to come, (the End Times) is the last thing to come true, and soon!

As you weren't there when your birth certificate was written, you have only hearsay knowledge from your parents or guardians that the birth certificate is yours. The truthful answer to the question, "Is this your birth certificate?" should be, "I don't know for sure, having only hearsay evidence that it is mine. I wasn't there at the time."

The same is true about the Bible and the "many men" God has supposedly spoken to. We weren't there at the time so how do we know if it was really God they were speaking to or, if indeed, they even spoke to anyone? As for there being no defects in the Bible, the fact that there is no living God to back it, as explained above, seems to be a pretty major defect! The defect in "our vision" is that those who believe in the Bible are unable to face the fact that there is no living God to back the Bible. Another defect is that the Bible, on almost every page, is full of constructs that are of the civilisation of commerce, are invisible, and are nowhere to be seen/found/experienced with our senses of creation (sight, sound, touch, taste, feel, smell) in the natural world of the living God.

As to the prophecies - what you focus on (the images - the information) and put your energy/power of creation into, is what you create. If you believe in the Bible and focus on the prophecies in the Bible, you will create the prophecies in the Bible, just as everyone caught up in the hateful images of the civilisation of commerce creates those images, just as the powers-that-be want them to. The "end times" is a self fulfilling prophecy that we (men, women, children) are creating because of the energy we put into these images as a result of all the information that we have been taught to think and feel. If the information about Jesus being the Son of God, or the end times had never been thought or felt by man, the information (the images - the forms) wouldn't exist, just as it does not in the real world of nature, and men and women would not waste their time putting their energy into it. The information was created for us to believe in it and create it. As this information is not found in the real world of nature, it has to be memorised and passed down from generation to generation so that we can all think, feel and create it. We are the common denominator here. And if you say that God created that information, please prove it, as above.

As the living God is omnipotent, omnipresent and omnipotent and as we need three good witnesses of good standing and moral character, and since the majority of the parties in this discussion walk upon Gondwanaland, please make arrangement for 1st party living God to meet with us here on Gondwanaland.

CG: You do not understand God at all. You in one statement say that God "allegedly exists", and at the same time you secretly do not think that God exists, but in humankind only? Satan is the author of confusion, and God, is of love and truth. Do not know where Gondwanaland is! You cannot ask a question, when embedded in the question, are you hidden agendas of confusion, that Satan and his minions try to instill in your mind. Please try (if you believe in God, that is) to pray for illumination, and to be shielded from the powers of evil. It works if you "believe".

No, we are not under-the-standing of any God, but we do feel the information of the living God of creation in the living world of nature. We don't need to "believe" because the information of the living God of creation is available for all to tap into whenever they choose to. There is no exclusivity or privilege with the living God. We don't need to believe in a tree for the tree to exist because the tree exists whether we believe in the tree or not, same as the living creator and everything created by the living creator. The need to "believe" only occurs when someone is asked to put their faith in something that is invisible and cannot be detected with our senses of creation that were created by the living creator so that we are able to recognise the creations of the living creator as being true and real and living.

If you can't do this, bringing forward the1st party living God to back your claims Christopher, within 90 days from today 6th February 2010, then your claims rest ONLY with 3rd parties who you have passed on the responsibilities too for backing your claims. These 3rd parties are fantasies, illusions, delusions, DEMONS, dead corpses, dead gods, etc.

CG: I do not know what 1st party living God, you are referring to. We are "sons of God" true, but we are not God. Please do not perverse this simple principal, and you may have confused many souls, due to this. I felt it and had to intervene in order to rest those poor souls, who may be entrapped with confusion.

We (MAN) in our true form (if we remember all the natural-living-information of the living-creator who created us) are the living embodiment of the creator and have been given the power to either nurture or destroy the living creation of the living creator. We have the responsibility to create our lives in the image of the creators information, but we are gifted with free will as well, and is why we have the FULL-responsibility for cleaning up the mess we have all created, rather than waiting for Christ to come and do it for us. The mess was/is caused by all of us and our ancestors, thinking, feeling and acting on information not of the living God. All dreams come with full responsibility otherwise they will be destroyed one way or another.

Every dream embodies all the information of its creator/s. Creation (MAN, Earth, Nature etc) is a living-dream bearing ALL the information of its natural-living-creator. Because we have access to ALL the natural-living-information created by the living God, we are gifted with the ability to think and feel ALL the living-information of creation embodied in this living-dream and therefore, we also have the full-responsibility to a duty-of-care of this living dream as well. A dream can only exist while it has a dreamer who thinks, feels and puts its energy/power of creation into the information of the dream. This clearly and incontrovertibly reveals the truth that all of MAN that ever was and ever will be is the co-creator of the creators living dream. It's tragic when we realise just how many of our brothers and sisters of MAN have forgotten who they really are, what they are really part of and their true purpose. Fiona and I have taken on the responsibility, to help as many of our brothers and sisters, re-connect with what remains of the living information of the living creator, so they can be inspired to remember who they really are, what they are really part of and remember their true purpose. If no MAN remembers the living information, MAN will no longer exist and this living dream is dead forevermore. We are determined to not let this happen.

The living God is not invisible Christopher and neither is Ant, Mark Pytellek, Arthur Cristian, Fiona Cristian (and others).

CG: I never stated that God is invisable, in my spiritual eyes.

What are your spiritual eyes? Do they see differently from your normal eyes? Are they found in nature? We feel that MANS living-senses of creation are our true eyes of creation, of truth, reality, consciousness. Everything that is true and real has substance of the living creator fully embodied. No aspect of the living creator is invisible. It is in forgetting to use all our senses of creation, forgetting to use all of our brain, that many of us have fallen from reality (consciousness) and are now worshippers of the invisible, dead-corpse, false-idol information of life, where fantasy, illusion, delusion and fiction permeate as the demons, apparitions, thought-forms, entities, ghosts and phantoms, that plague and block our true sight.

And, if it is true in what you say, why would you visit Satans Den to gather fruits from Satan if you believe in what you have just stated???

CG: I would prefer to stay far away from Satan and his den!

If you prefer to stay away from Satan's den, why do you visit the Love For Life website which you describe as "against God's will"? And why do you consider you have the right to determine for others what they do or do not experience? Who gave you the authority to decide that men and women should be "protected" from the Love For Life website?

Peace and holy rites upon you Christopher.

CG: May Father bless you and comfort you. peace and prayers upon you.

PS I hate this life in this world, as it is a punishment from God, because we are all evil and deserve it, save Christ, who came on his own free will to save us. Yet, God loves us, and truly! Imagine evil spirits out there not caring for anyone. As souls do not have a need to eat or drink, they can wreck havoc in the universe. God the Father is teaching us humility which is very short supply on earth.

As above, please prove these claims. If God is a God of love, why would he/she/it punish those that he/she/it loves? How can a rotten seed produce fruit? We are not waiting for the after-------life to do something about the mess we grew up in and have contributed to. We have all been compromised by our experiences in this civilisation of commerce but we have taken on the responsibility to do something about it NOW, as can be seen in all our work which encourages everyone to take FULL-responsibility for stopping the harm doing so that we can all work together to heal the creators living dream of earth we are all part of. As we realise that many people are not even aware of all the areas of harm doing in their lives, we have taken a good deal of trouble to document the harm so that they can learn to recognise where they are causing destruction to the creation of the living God. Only the living can fix the problems of the living, only each man or woman can make the choice to stop the destruction he/she is causing.

Below is a response to a friend from earlier today that bears information I encourage you to feel as you read it.

Conscious Love Always
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

Hi ................
We had a quick glance at your new website.... in the education section, you praise, Jordan Maxwell, David Icke, Mary Croft, Jeff Rense, Alex Jones, Zecharia Sitchin, etc..(we have had dealings with all of them, some are still on the Love For Life mail list like Jordan Maxwell, Bill & Kerrie (Project Camelot) and, up to a few weeks ago, Mary Croft who is as conniving as hell)... Are you aware that they are ALL working against us (are deceivers/confusers/plants) and that we are out to bring them ALL down (and many others) with truth. The reason we say this is because NONE of them offer a remedy outside the system and, therefore, are supporting the system even as it evolves into the NWO (another version of the civilisation of commerce which is HELL). They run in the opposite direction to remedy just like vampires from sunlight. It is clear who their master is!

The civilisation of commerce is HELL and can only be entered with demons cloaking the man, woman or child. Any form of commerce, no matter what, requires demonization for it to appear to exist and to perform. It is the demon that fictitiously crystallises a "self" (person/strawman/agent-in-commerce/mind/ego/individual) that covets and maketh a man, woman or child separated and isolated from MAN (men, women, children), nature, earth........ the in-divide-u-all (individual). The DEMONS make their victims forget who they really are, what they are really part of and their true purpose. The demons make them serve a false god with a false identity and with a false purpose. The selfish demons make their victims accumulate for "self" and this accumulation is the energy of DARKNESS, they offer up as SACRIFICES OF DEATH, to their master, their LORD of HELL. Demons, and their master, are incapable of creating, which is why they need men, women and children to do it for them.

A MAN free of demons is a gift (an act of love) for creation and this is all that he/she sees and lives for. A MAN is creation in the act of creation without beginning or end to the gifts of love he/she creates, without reference points, boundaries, values, measurements, conditions, contracts or ownership placed upon the MAN as ONLY demons can do this. MAN, free of demons, is the full embodiment of the living creator. This IS the REMEDY. Anything less than the remedy keeps men, women and children trapped in HELL, regardless of version or preference. A MAN cannot serve two masters; either we serve creation which means that we Do No Harm to the living dream of the living creator that is creation, OR we serve the demons representing the LORD of HELL that destroy, destroy and destroy the living because they are incapable of doing anything else. If we are doing ANYTHING that is part of the civilisation of commerce, we are destroying the living dream.

Only HELL has a LORD because MAN already IS the full-embodiment of the living creator and takes full responsibility for everything he/she thinks, feels and does. As soon as anyone accepts a Lord, they are no longer taking responsibility for their lives in creation. They are serving another master. Only in a dead-corpse civilisation of commerce can the demon of any Lord be thought of to tempt you.

Conscious Love Always
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

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Re: Fakes Can Discredit Even The Genuine Ones: Giant Humans - From 6' to 36'

5th February 2010 5.00PM

Mark wrote:

Am sure Arthur that a lot of those shots of giants are fakes.
Nevertheless there were giants walking the earth as there are many records of them

Bestest

Marko

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5th February 2010 6.26PM

Hi Marco
The powers that be are working overtime to discredit this type of information because it destroys the Satanists bullshit slant on evolution/creation/history/dinosaurs/who we really are/what we are really part of and our true purpose etc etc.....

The Satanists will do anything to maintain a flock of sheeple (slaves) to serve them.

One of the common tactics of the Satanists is to relentlessly slam the truth in your face so that eventually the sheeple are worn out (brainwashed).... "its just a conspiracy theory" and "that only happens in the movies" etc, etc.

Love Arthur

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The Bible

5th February 2010 7:10 PM

Arthur,
You've made it quite clear that you have a philosophy of "self help" for mankind's problems and it's future, along the guidelines you've clearly indicated, "no harm kindom" etc.) and I drew the impression that you have little time for Christianity.

Tell me, do you believe the bible to be creditable?

Don

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5th February 2010 11:10 PM

Hi Don,
Firstly its not a "self" as there is no such thing in reality as a "self" - only MAN of MAN exists .... a big difference here.
Are you a "self" or are you MAN ---
A "self" is a construct.

Secondly, it's not a philosophy... reality is not a philosophy... it's reality .... a big difference here.
Philosophy is a construct.

Thirdly, I do not believe in anything... Do you need to believe in the tree for the tree to exist? Of course not..... the tree exists regardless if you believe in the tree or not! Do you need to believe in the creator? Of course not.............. the MAN repeats..... MAN Does Not Believe In Anything ----- In the middle of the word believe is the word lie ===== be-----lie----v-----e ===== be the lie.
Belief is a construct.

Fourthly, Christianity is a construct and constructs are not part of the reality created by the living God. All constructs are fictions, fairytales, not to be found anywhere in creation no matter how hard you look, no matter how long you look for and no matter where and when you look. Would Creation (life/reality) suffer, if not perish and die if Christianity did not exist???? What does Christianity do for creation that aids creation in rolling along here and now??? Can you eat it or drink it or breathe it or touch it or feel it etc??? Is Christianity life-sustainable like the living God??? If so, where is it, show me where it co-creates 1st party to 1st party with the living God??? If you can't demonstrate life-sustainable Christianity 1st party to 1st party then Christianity is a fiction, a fairytale, a fantasy, illusion and delusion (just like Police Officer or President or Pope or Judge etc)..... Christianity does not exist unless you believe in the construct.

All constructs are Demons Don.

So yes..... The MAN is interested ONLY in MAN (my true brothers and sisters of reality/life/creation/consciousness). The MAN is not interested in Christianity. As MAN, a sentient first party, I can put my energy/power of creation into MAN, a sentient first party, and watch MAN (brother, sister, wife, child, friend, mother, father, etc) expand (grow) but I can't do this with Christianity because its a dead-corpse. Christianity can't re-------present as a sentient 1st party, it can't walk or talk or contemplate or negotiate or contract or create/co-create. Therefore Christianity is incapable of taking full-responsibility for life, creation, nature, Earth, MAN (men, women, children) - therefore Christianity is a 3rd Party Don. Meaning, its a DEMON, an interloping, interceding, interfering, intermeddling apparition, ghost, phantom, thought-form, entity, that will do harm to anyone passing the buck on to Christianity to take responsibility for their life, to get them out of here and into the after-------life. The Pharaohs tried this and failed miserably. Christianity is a construct. (We go more deeply into this subject here..... We have also updated this post with lots more information/insights today that relate to this discussion: Where Is "Community Immunity"? by Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 1st February 2010: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7173

No.... the Bible is not creditable because its not life-sustainable. In the fiction of time, it was written by hordes of Satanists probably around 1200AD to 1500AD. Satanists always tempt with truths but they ALWAYS hide lies amongst the truth/s. If the Bible was TRUTH, you would think by word of mouth spoken across the ages, across many, many, many generations until here and now, the word of TRUTH, with billions of MAN hearing TRUTH, putting their energy/power of creation into words of TRUTH,.......... TODAY, we would all be living in paradise, but that ain't the case Don.... WHY?????

A bit of hijacking going on....... hey????

I think so.

The Bible is a construct (refer above to Christianity regarding passing the buck).

CON-struct: the structures of the CON - the instructions of the CON

All the best
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

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Re: Fakes Can Discredit Even The Genuine Ones: Giant Humans - From 6' to 36'

5th February 2010 7:35 PM

Mark wrote:
Yes, they do that. 'Thomas' has already shown 2 examples of the photos used were enlargements of normal size skeletons I am no expert but he appears to know how to check the fakes from the real thing

Certainly there are also genuine large skeletons. My point is the fakes can discredit even the genuine ones

Bestest
Mark

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5th February 2010 11:28 PM

Marko,
Your last point "the fakes can discredit even the genuine ones" is one of the common Satanic tactics used AND... they are often the ones instigating the fakes as well..... Then they say.... its the reptilians from blah blah blah or they're the Nephilim aka Anunaki, Sumerian Tablets, Zacharia Sitchin etc..... "MAN was seeded by aliens/reptilians/ET'S" blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,..... so says Jordan Maxwell, David Icke and every other confuser working against us....... ALL BULLSHIT....... to keep us off the trail from discovering/remembering who we really are, what we are really part of and our true purpose.

The Satanists work both sides (real & fake - good & bad - right & wrong) always heading into the middle.

MAN generally was over 30' in height before the fall from consciousness - look at the animals that were around too. How come the dinosaurs were so big. They couldn't survive in today's atmosphere. The massive drop in Oxygen (etc) in the atmosphere (etc) caused MANS shrinkage. We had to survive/adapt and we did at a HUGE price/consequence..... There were those who still loved creation. There is a lot to be said about the destruction of the water canopy the Earth had in its atmosphere. This canopy reflected our consciousness. In fact everything going wrong is reflected as the continuing fall of MANS consciousness (sense of reality).

It seems that oxygen carries an immense amount of consciousness information and the more pure and sincere our thoughts and feelings we act on, the more we readily CREATE and absorb the oxygen (the consciousness), which made up a bigger % of the air, water, plants, etc, back then. Oxygen is in the air, the water and the food we eat. It maintains the DNA. The more oxygen (consciousness) absorbed, the bigger and stronger things grow (for bigger creatures and bigger MAN to eat as well).

The opposite applies when the oxygen content of the air is diminished. BUT we have to co-create this consciousness and expand it. If we don't there won't be any, it will run out/fade away. If you don't breathe you die, if you don't drink you die, if you don't eat (get nutrition) you die. All are acts of creation. So is consciousness via oxygen. So if we don't think and feel the purity and sincerity of consciousness and act on these forms, Gods information about life/creation will fade away, be forgotten. We are in that last stage of the slide down into oblivion but it its still not too late to pull out of this kamikaze nose dive into eternal nothingness.

I guess there was so much enriched pollen in the air and water (including minerals) before the Fall that MAN was almost a breatharian, if not one. As long as we did not do harm (no insincere or impure thoughts and feelings to act on) our purity and sincerity was perfectly attuned to God and all we had to do to maintain our full-responsibility of the creation of MAN and MANS body of Earth was to ONLY think and feel pure and sincere thoughts and feelings and act on them (put our energy/power of creation into) the forms (the images) of our creation/co-creation. Each breath of air in the garden of Eden was so full of nutrition that MAN barely eat. Everything was nature... as perfect as God created life.

Today, we are living in concrete, steel, plastic, bitumen and all the dead artificial constructs of civilisation (including read and write alphabet languages, mathematics and sacred geometry) so we cannot really begin to comprehend what life was like. How can we even begin to fully comprehend, envisage/perceive/feel and appreciate the Garden Of Eden when we have fallen so very far away from reality that today, that something like 1 word in three words coming out of our mouths, all day, everyday, is a CON-STRUCT. The alphabet languages are strangling us (our links to consciousness) to death. We are almost completely deaf, dumb and blind to consciousness. The power of our creation is in the purity and sincerity of every thought and feeling we act on (put our energy/power of creation into) but we can't do that because these dead-corpse alphabet languages are gagging us from thinking and feeling consciousness.

We are the paraplegics to the Usain Bolt, when compared to MAN in the Garden of Eden. We rely on aeroplanes, helicopters, trains, buses, cars, trucks, bikes, NASA rocket ships to get us around; back then Adam and Eve travelled the whole of creation (the universe) using their consciousness, as fast as they could think and feel this information consciously. They could do everything they needed to with their bodies, 1st parties to 1st parties, whereas today we have forsaken our full-responsibility to the creation of MAN and MANS Earth by defaulting to 3rd parties in every way imaginable.... we need mobile phones, cars, air conditioning, media, supermarkets, BP, CitiBank, NRMA Insurance, Medicare, farmers, plumbers, money, assets, land-titles, fee simple, democracy, constitution, government, rule of law, statutes and would take many many hours to list another 10% of the 100% enormity of the nightmare of our abdication from being MAN etc. We just don't want to be MAN anymore. Instead we want to be a nothing man, a space, a void, empty of consciousness.

We have survived because we have adapted to the fall in oxygen in the atmosphere.

We are the 1st parties to co-creating and expanding consciousness with other 1st parties and this means we have to take FULL-RESPONSIBILITY for this act of creation in every instant of our creation of the MAN/WOMAN/CHILDREN we are creating/co-creating. As there is no one else who will or can take on this responsibility, its up to MAN, you, me, our families, our children, our friends, our partners, our tribes/villages/communities etc HERE AND NOW. If we don't, no one else will either. Look what happens when we don't do this, when we pass the buck to 3rd parties (to fantasies)????? Is not the creation of the Earth and MAN AS IS here and now a result of us passing the buck to 3rd parties (thinking, feeling and acting on this dead-corpse information) which include Santa Clause, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy and to the constructs of Christian, Arab, Buddhist and Jew, Messiah, Prophet, Guru, Buddha, Ashtar Command, Galactic Federation, Son Of God, God in the after ------ life, etc, etc!!!!!

"Oh.... gees here comes Santa Claus just in time".... "Hey look over there... its the Easter Bunny coming to the rescue" ..... "Hey.... LOOK.. its the Son Of God coming to save us... thank God for that"...."Thanks God for handling everything"............. "Hey............whose turn is it to roll a joint?"... "Whose the jockey riding horse 3 in the Supreme Handicap on Saturday?, I am thinking of putting a wager on that one!" .... "Don't forget to tune in to Lord Monckton on Tuesday night 8.30pm, he is talking about that Global Warming issue!!!" .... "Thanks for the offer but I have an appointment with my bank manager at that time".... etc, etc, etc,.....

Have you watched this Jonathan Gray video about the earth before the fall? The Killing of Paradise Planet - 52 Minutes: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7123

Also, there is evidence coming to light that the Ancient Egyptians (the Satanists 8000BC going forward) experimented with a lot of cloning/genetics, which is now blamed on aliens as usual or Neanderthal man or Neolithic man or Palaeolithic man, etc, etc.... again ALL BULLSHIT.... Evolution.. Darwinism... Big Bang..... They are always trying to disassociate themselves from their past because, otherwise, they can't pull off their lies.

There is so much coming to light about Sumerians and Phoenicians but they are just Ancient Egyptians. How can we tell? The good old read and write alphabet languages, mathematics and sacred geometry of course, that turn up in every version of the civilisation of Ancient Egypt.

A well-known robber must disguise himself if he is to be successful in committing any more robberies. Ancient Egyptians (Satanists) have to disguise their civilisations so we don't realise that we are just being fobbed off with another version of the same, rather than the completely different civilisation they claim to offer. We have written much about Ancient Egypt as found in many of our postings going back to 2007 here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 Read this: ANCIENT EGYPTIAN TREASURES IN THE GRAND CANYON: Suppressed Archeological Information & Metaphysical Paradox? by Barry McEwen: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7179 - We will post more from here shortly: http://www.stevequayle.com/Giants/index2.html - all this archaeology info will be posted here shortly: Archaeology Answers About Ancient Civilizations: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3081

If you are interested we have also updated this post with lots more information/insights today that relate to this discussion: Where Is "Community Immunity"? by Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 1st February 2010: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7173

All the best

Love
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

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5th February 2010 7:08 PM

Marcel wrote:
I'm not entirely sure I believe that the Bible was 'created' by satanists, but the oldest one in use today was heavily modified by King James to suit his political agenda. He needed to make a more passive populace so he reworded many things in the Bible. For example, 'Blessed are the meek' reads 'Blessed are the diligent" in the Greek transcripts and Koran, he also removed God's name from the Bible well over 1000 times and replaced it with "Lord"...which means Baal in Hebrew I'm pretty sure. So I try to view the original Greek transcripts of the Bible, the King James 1611 Edition, and the Koran to paint a picture in my mind of what God would have wanted for us.

One nice feature among the evil-doers of the world is that they think they're smarter than everyone else, but they make mistakes too and in their vanity they overlook details; so by viewing multiple sources of more or less the same thing you can find what is common and what is commonly altered. Then it just comes down to pattern recognition and cross referencing after that, because they are especially creatures of habit what with thinking their way is superior.

In all likelihood however, I could spend the rest of my life researching those 3 books and never uncover the full truth; because they all are likely based off something more ancient and lost in time and to the translations and interpretations of men, both good and evil but still flawed...but there are some things we all can agree on. The word 'Love' is in just about every book in the Bible and God often speaks of it along with many of the other people within, so I'm pretty sure he wanted that to be predominant in our lives. Knowledge as well was a big focus, especially in Proverbs, so I'm sure he did not want us living 'ignorantly' in Domestifu*ked Bliss. There are also many examples of where things like Jealousy can get you, for it only begets anger and contempt, so we ought to remove Jealousy from our lives. This list could go on for a while, but you get the idea, a negative can only breed a negative so positive things are what we ought to focus on...which just makes sense.

Peace,
Marcel

PS: ''Domestifu*ked'' is one of my words from back in Highschool. I'm working on getting it added to a dictionary but in the meantime its loosely defined as "minivans and SUVs, suburbia, dogs who would get eaten by my cat, trophy wives/husbands, a false sense of security in paper, and push-button living", a joining of the words 'domestic' and 'fu*ked'. :-p

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Re: Are We There But Don't See Paradise? However, Gondwanaland Was Never Paradise

6/02/2010 6:40 AM

Maxwell wrote:

Hi Arthur,
Thanks, I quickly scanned the long message... perhaps its easier to digest in smaller but more frequent meals and deserves same, most of it is correct, however, Gondwanaland was never paradise and the natives were not at peace, they warred within and outside their territory... they ate their own in famine and ate others in feast, they were malnourished, held hostage by visions, traditions and laws, they farmed with a firestick until only the petrol tree eucalyptus survived, and other fire trees thrived itself a fire starter by design and adaption, other brutal and ignorant tribes conditioned others until all were similar.

Today better and improved trades, trad-itions, exist amongst the natives, they have improved their lives and most desire a mixed selection of west, east, north, and south, great southern traits... Today Gondwanaland is a dream maybe of the past, maybe of the future, in what civilised world or uncivilised work and world, in recorded known history, would you care to belong to? Have we ever had Paradise? Where and what was it like...? To have paradise what do we need? How is it controlled? Are all controls lost in paradise? Or are we already lost in paradise? Are we there but don't/can't see paradise?

Without Prejudice
MM

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7th February 2010 11:28 PM

Hi Mike
Over the past few years we have had the great fortune of being contacted over the phone or visited by tribal elders from many tribes around Gondwanaland, their information, all unrelated to each other (in the present). Their tribe's beautiful, powerful word-of-mouth history passed down over the last few thousand years, some of which they shared with us, is so very very different to the stories pitched by the Satanists who control ALL read and write alphabet languages, who control ALL the biased information distribution and education channels, that it appears you are reliant on to explain your version of the Originie Mans background on this land. Let me tell you here and now, IT'S ALL SATANIC INDUCED BULLSHIT.

Also interesting, are a few phone calls we received from a few women, all very elderly, Anglo Saxon and unrelated, who all grew up on large outback ranches and had extensive exposure and adventures/travels with the local Originie tribes - some were brought up by them. The beautiful stories they shared with us all tie in perfectly with the stories shared by the tribal elders and all this information perfectly ties in with all the heartfelt inspired logic/insights Fiona and I have been unravelling along the way since 2005.

Many a Dutch, Portuguese, Spanish, French, English, etc, ship anchored on the shores of Gondwanaland from at least the early 1500's. It also appears that some of these ships were there as early as the 1200's. Many of them brought with them tribes from other islands and countries close and far away, and it is these often in-bred tribes who brought the disease, burnt forests, war, violence, rape, cannibalism, malnutrition, meat eating traditions, etc, etc. The extensive genocide campaign against the Originie men, women and children on Gondwanaland by the British Empire (representing all the European houses/families/flags of Europe/Ancient Egypt) started in full during the 1500's, and not after the bullshit twisted story of Captain Cook's landing in 1770.

Just as the Satanists plotted the down fall of the American Indians over many many centuries (all this information is recorded, Have you read books like "Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3wtz7oWikg This is a 2007 TV series based on this awesome book or explore Google: http://www.google.com.au/search?q=Bury+My+Heart+At+Wounded+Knee&ie=utf-8... ) so they plotted the downfall of the Originie MAN on Gondwanaland as well.

This is all part of their (SATANS) evil NWO (New Civilisation of Commerce) campaign/agenda that they have been working very hard to bring to fruition, particularly since the Canaanites (The Vikings) invaded Britain as the Norman Conquest in the eleventh century. These Canaanites were the Aryan-Bloodline, Ancient Egyptian Satanists, one of the bullshit 13 lost tribes of Is-Ra-El who remembered all the information (the abominations - the triumvirate & the trinity) of Ancient Egypt's Civilisation of Commerce. Part of this deception was to appear to separate Rome from Britain (British Empire) while they continued working very closely together behind the scenes even until today.

From the Norman Conquest through the journeys (often fictitious/rewrites to lose the Satanic/Ancient Egypt trail) of the Knights Templars, The Black Nobility, The Roman Catholic Church, The Crusades, The Moor Wars (the brilliantly engineered restructure of many parts of Europe by Satanists to suit their NWO agenda... Spain, Portugal, Dutch, etc,), the Napoleonic Wars resulting in Europe's first Central Bank, the brilliantly crafted French, English, Spanish, Dutch wars to conquer all of the Americas, Pacific Islands, Oceania, the Boar wars in Africa, the psychological wars in India leading to the partitioning of Pakistan, the wars by the British/Satanic controlled Dutch East India company, particularly its opium wars in China that helped establish Masonic controlled ports/bases like Singapore, Sumatra, Manilla, Shanghai, Hong Kong, as well as Bombay and Bangladesh amongst many others, the threads of the Canaanites remained unbroken as Ancient Egyptian Satanists weaved a trail of espionage, subterfuge, manipulations, divide and rule tactics over the Earth and across their recorded His-Story in their read and write alphabet languages.

The Satanists knew from way back, probably as far back as 3500BC that Gondwanaland was their "promised land", their "lucky country", the head office of their New World Order = Is (Isis) Ra (Ra) El (Satan) = The Ancient Egyptian / Roman Catholic Christian Trinity = The Royal Family divinely appointed by God (Isis), The High Priest Hood divinely appointed by God (Ra), The Rule Of Law divinely appointed by God (Satan) and God = Their Dark Lord Satan now called Jesus The Christ = the constructs = the information the trinity imposes on all its captors to have them think and feel and worship/believe in (act on) these constructs so they can put their energy/power of creation into these false idols (dead-corpse-information) of God. Why else is the new parliament of Canberra, 4 pyramids built on top of each other like Russian dolls and why is it capped with a glass pyramid as well???? The All Seeing Eye of Horus = Satan = Jesus The Christ, the all thinking/feeling Satanic information of their Son of God they will want everyone on Earth to think, feel and act on (NWO), information not found anywhere in the living-nature created by the living creator of creation.

The Freemasonic Satanic cleverness behind 9/11, Pearl Harbour, 7/7, WW1, WW2, Fluoride, Vaccinations, Global Warming, Swine Flu, etc, etc, will give you a very good clue into the evil ingenuity and cold-hearted cleverness of those who engineered the long-term planned take over of Arnhem Land and the bullshit propaganda campaign put in place to dupe generations to come. Their propaganda also entrenched the idea of some "god given" right (refer to comments like yours below Mike) for the British to conquer and rule over this land spoilt by sadism, inequity and tribal/savage filth. And lets not forget the importing of European, and Asian, working class rabbits (yes, my parents too), who breed profusely and swarm like pests over this land and trumpet the great glory of Britain's dark LORD SATAN, disguised as Jesus the Christ. The Greek orthodox Church praises Jesus Christ, as do The Roman Catholics, The Protestants, The Methodists, The Anglicans, etc etc.

With confidence, backed by the insights of Satanic trickery coded within the secrets of their English language and recognising a construct for what it really is, for me it is so very very very clear now that The New Testament of the Bible is their Satanic Religion, all about SATAN, THE DARK LORD, (Their Dark Lord), JESUS THE CHRIST (HORUS). This is why Christianity and Freemasonry have had very close ties for many many hundreds of years. The animal and human sacrifices, the dying pharaohs and Jesus placed in tombs, the 3 nights in a tomb, the resurrections, the after----------life, the cock crowed three times (about commerce/statute law/contract law), Jesus visiting Egypt, the virgin birth (representing the reincarnation of a demon), etc, etc, the list goes on and on and on and on........ ALL SATANIC PRACTISED RITUALS OF THE SATANIC RELIGION. When freedom permits I will go more deeply into this subject but anyone who reads the new testament and has studied Satanic ritualised practices will clearly see heaps of Satanic practised belief systems and rituals/worships to their Dark Lord Satan jumping out of every page of the New Testament.

Also, going back to the distortions of history, have a read of this correspondence: New World Order - Conversation Taken From The Ringing Cedars rEvolution Website Involving Arthur & Fiona Cristian 13th May 2009: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6566 and watch the videos of the true black History of America which we posted a few years ago, also located here: Videos: UNTOLD BLACK HISTORY - The True History Of Black Americans - "Everyone Should Watch These Videos": http://loveforlife.com.au/node/4912 There will come a time when the true history of what happened here on Gondwanaland will come out, sooner rather than later (wishful thinking on my behalf). Australia has been their promised land from long ago. The Canaanites already knew about it and dreamed of making it their IS-RA-EL, the fruition of their NWO. Our parents and everyone else's parents/grand parents/great-grand parents who came to this land, and unbeknown to almost all of them since they migrated, were Egypt's slaves building the infrastructures and bases/temples of Satans New World Order homeland to oversee its earthly empire.

How about that Mike......... can you swallow this??????

"Only HELL Has A DEMON"

This Is A Brief Reply To Information Found In A Website - "Only HELL Has A DEMON"

Hi ................
We had a quick glance at your new website.... in the education section, you praise, Jordan Maxwell, David Icke, Mary Croft, Jeff Rense, Alex Jones, Zecharia Sitchin, etc..(we have had dealings with all of them, some are still on the Love For Life mail list like Jordan Maxwell, Bill & Kerrie (Project Camelot) and, up to a few weeks ago, Mary Croft who is as conniving as hell)... Are you aware that they are ALL working against us (are deceivers/confusers/plants) and that we are out to bring them ALL down (and many others) with truth. The reason we say this is because NONE of them offer a remedy outside the system and, therefore, are supporting the system even as it evolves into the NWO (another version of the civilisation of commerce which is HELL). They run in the opposite direction to remedy just like vampires from sunlight. It is clear who their master is!

The civilisation of commerce is HELL and can only be entered with demons cloaking the man, woman or child. Any form of commerce, no matter what, requires demonization for it to appear to exist and to perform. It is the demon that fictitiously crystallises a "self" (person/strawman/agent-in-commerce/mind/ego/individual) that covets and maketh a man, woman or child separated and isolated from MAN (men, women, children), nature, earth........ the in-divide-u-all (individual). The DEMONS make their victims forget who they really are, what they are really part of and their true purpose. The demons make them serve a false god with a false identity and with a false purpose. The selfish demons make their victims accumulate for "self" and this accumulation is the energy of DARKNESS, they offer up as SACRIFICES OF DEATH, to their master, their LORD of HELL. Demons, and their master, are incapable of creating, which is why they need men, women and children to do it for them.

A MAN free of demons is a gift (an act of love) for creation and this is all that he/she sees and lives for. A MAN is creation in the act of creation without beginning or end to the gifts of love he/she creates, without reference points, boundaries, values, measurements, conditions, contracts or ownership placed upon the MAN as ONLY demons can do this. MAN, free of demons, is the full embodiment of the living creator. This IS the REMEDY. Anything less than the remedy keeps men, women and children trapped in HELL, regardless of version or preference. A MAN cannot serve two masters; either we serve creation which means that we Do No Harm to the living dream of the living creator that is creation, OR we serve the demons representing the LORD of HELL that destroy, destroy and destroy the living because they are incapable of doing anything else. If we are doing ANYTHING that is part of the civilisation of commerce, we are destroying the living dream.

Only HELL has a LORD because MAN already IS the full-embodiment of the living creator and takes full responsibility for everything he/she thinks, feels and does. As soon as anyone accepts a Lord, they are no longer taking responsibility for their lives in creation. They are serving another master. Only in a dead-corpse civilisation of commerce can the demon of any Lord tempt you.

Conscious Love Always
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

Skull Hoax photos: Fakes Can Discredit Even The Genuine Ones

Thomas Anderson wrote:

Hi Guys,
As you know, the latest batch of Giant Skull photos are ALL hoaxes, as proven by James Colmer - www.ianjamescolmer.com

Here is an example of the stupidity of the hoaxers.

Best
Thomas




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Skull Hoax photos: Fakes Can Discredit Even The Genuine Ones
The Inter-Dimensional Virgins From Outer Andromeda And The Angelic Dairy Maids From The Sirius Constellation

Hi Thomas, no argument, there are lots of hoaxes by the ptb to throw us off the trail of truth.

Everything was big back then before the water canopy busted and oxygen levels dropped between 20% and 30%.... but not little ole MAN!!!! Oh no! He/she has always been tiny compared to all the other creatures and plants regardless of the extra 20%/30% oxygen intake and purity of air, water, soil, nutrition, etc. Everything was big so being big was normal. The effect of oxygen on life is HUGE and with less of it, we too are less. Also, the Ancient Egyptians experimented with genetic manipulation and cloning before the fall. We are actually in an abnormal state, living in abnormal times, having adapted to survive the huge FALL from consciousness (includes oxygen).

I have met and spoken in depth with a few researchers over the years, one a film maker back around 1990/91. He told me heaps of stories and showed me many pictures of large bodied around 30' MAN skeletons found around the globe from 1934 to 1975. He has had quite a few attempts on his life and could never make the films he dreamt off without the very real possibility that he would be saying bye bye to all those he loved for the last time. The Theosophical Society (Adjar bookshop in Sydney Castlereagh St early 1970's - I used to go there a lot) also had books on the subject, although I don't suppose you would find them now.

When you add on the bullshit of Darwinism, Evolution, The Big-Bang, MAN being seeded by aliens (compliments of Satanic engineered events.. i.e. Nephilim aka Anunaki, Sumerian Tablets, Zacharia Sitchin etc), Roswell, Hollywood & TV Sci-Fi, be careful to duck tomorrow as an asteroid is coming in close to the earth and there is a meteor shower the following week and another one the week after that, that the earth goes around the sun which goes around another galactic central point, which goes around another one, which goes around another one, etc, etc, that the earth is round, that MAN went through the Van Allan Belt to the moon, that a huge focus is placed on "OUT THERE" - "OUT THERE" - "OUT THERE" - "OUT THERE" - "OUT THERE" - "OUT THERE".

What they are telling us is that we are "tiny aspects of the universe" (thanks David Icke) at the mercy of the stars, the moon, the ETs, UFO's, Reptillians and God. Everything is greater than us and more powerful than us, as we learn through all the reports of so-called communications, channellings and visits from other worldly, galactic, cosmic, dimensional life-forms, beings, entities, angels. And while on this subject lets not forget the inter-dimensional virgins from outer Andromeda and the angelic dairy maids from the Sirius constellation who interchanged their cosmic juices to create a shield of love to shift our consciousness. Also protecting us are the 6 million Asian Triad, Nesara, the Galactic Federation, The Secret White Brotherhood, countless deities, angels, the Archangel Michael, the Saints and a cast of a thousand more. Phew, aren't we lucky that we don't have to do anything about our lives with all their beings taking care of everything for us.

Are we smelling a Satanic rat here of the worst Biblical kind imaginable, a Lie so monstrous, so evil and so coordinated, built up over many hundreds of years, to prepare us all for their "End Time" sting.....
'You Can't Handle The Truth" Jack Nicholson - A Few Good Men

Once the message that we are insignificant and helpless has been pounded into us enough, are we not then ripe for the picking, meekly accepting the Satanic world's Son Of God, the remedy we all grasp because we are too tiny, dumb and stupid to create one that works for all of us????

They are laughing at us; they tell us that we only use up to 10% of our brains but they also tell us that the life forms of the universe developed from grubby things as necessitated by survival. So just what was life like at the point in evolution that we were using ALL of our brains? And they tell us that we are at the pinnacle of our achievements and that we are smarter than ever before. Let's not point out that we are also fatter, sicker, more violent, poorer, more stressed and unhappier than ever before. We are so used to giving our power away that we are incredibly naive, gullible and trusting of our masters who dish us only dirt. We have withdrawn into our shells to become the insignificant, powerless nothings we have been trained to be.

Whatever anyone says, in the world as the creator created it, we were physically fit and strong beyond anything we can imagine now. As archaeologist Jonathan Gray says: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3082 in the video: The Killing Of Paradise Planet, with the increased oxygen content of the air, as we are now, we would be able to run 200miles without tiring.

Just think - when you are feeling calm and peaceful, you also begin to feel your power and you know what to do and say and you are the passion and the love expanding and expanding, you actually feel bigger and stronger...... and you/we are!!!!!!. In contrast, when you are feeling stressed and harassed (as living in the system does to you), you feel powerless and helpless, overwhelmed by everything, and smaller. Imagine our potential when we start living in nature again, growing our food, having time to contemplate with the security of your tribe around you, without the financial pressure and the other 1001 distractions of the system. How are our children going to develop (expand) when they are raised away from the brainwashing of the system and allowed to connect with their strength and passion, especially as the quality of the environment improves as we stop polluting everything. When the air is filled with pollen again and the water increases with colloidal minerals and the oxygen content increases. Not only will we become bigger and stronger again, we will not have to eat or drink as much and we will tread lightly on the earth as men and women of love.

All the best
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

The next headline in an ever-lusting power struggle.

I'm not sure how my simple scrutinies of this project ever led to such a debacle, but let me be clear. I am not interested in 10-20 ft skeletal remains of men that once where, whether they be fiction or fact. I am concerned with the philosophy of this program. It (being the program) is one of the few plausible options left to humanity. My problem is just and concerns the foundations of such a structure.

My questions have, (although been replied to) not been answered. I was given, (with many thanks to your reply) a series of articles and videos concerning nature and it's supposed forgiving attitude towards human beings. Under your "Child and the Cheetah" video, it is, through little research, obvious that the whole scenario was fixed. The parents were film-producers, and the daughter interacted with a domesticated animal. I don't discredit all of your links, however, through consideration of your citations, it would be considered extrapolation to judge the entirety of human to nature interaction through a few, rare, documented, occasions.

Nature is simply not what you make it out to be. Your interpretation of nature and its interactions would be the foundation of your society. Why would you discredit the harsh reality of it? It makes us stronger. It is not a forgiving entity. Those that fall to apathy and a number of other maladies do not progress as prominent figures to the betterment of our race. THAT is the reality of nature. The survival of the fittest.

Granted, today the survival of the fittest means something entirely different than what nature purportedly intended. We are the forever developing and evolving race of our own imagination. Life in agricultural/stationary societies is the antithesis of nature (as we know it). But what is to say, that the mental capacity we are experiencing today is not within the construct of nature? As far as nature goes, I would go so far as to say that this "illusion" is more like nature than your perception of it. We have a dominating class, whereas in a lion's society, the figurehead might be borne of strength and dexterousness, the prominent figure of men, in mirrored-image, is that of intelligence, deceptiveness and charisma.

Your philosophy maintains a huge fallacy. Please alleviate this problem for me.

Re: The Next Headline In An Ever-Lusting Power Struggle....

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How We Are Killing Who We Are In Ways Beyond The Comprehension Of Most

By Arthur And Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

14th February 2010

http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7198

Quantum Physics is presumably suggesting that the world of nature is also a hologram but we see one very important difference between the world of nature and the superimposed world of fiction, which is that the world of nature is life-sustainable, not needing our energy/power of creation to be maintained, although, we being part of that life sustainable world, it does need us to love, to think and feel the information of that living-dream for us and it to exist. We (MAN) need to think and feel the information of consciousness in order to act upon it (put our energy/power of creation into - LOVE) and co-create with the life forms of the living world (the-living-dream). The real illusion, however, the world of fiction (the hologram), needs our energy/power of creation to appear to physically/materially exist. What a price we and the rest of the natural world pays for this, as we have to destroy our REAL lives and that of the rest of the REAL world to give the hologram a physical/material form to interact with. For example, we destroy a mountain to create skyscrapers.

Every Dream Has A Creator - A Dream Home Embodies All The Information Of The Architect And Family Who Dreamt It

The living creator created a living dream and filled all the information (the consciousness) the creator felt and thought into the living dream and created MAN to embody the FULL power (the consciousness and the WILL) of the living-creators creation to interact with the information (the consciousness) of this living dream (LIFE) so that we (MAN) can choose to either co-create or destroy the living dream. The other life forms of creation need the energy we put into creation so that they can bounce it back at us in the form of their creation. The sun shines because it is bouncing back the love (the consciousness) we project. If we were no longer thinking, feeling and projecting our love into the living dream, the sun would have no energy with which to shine, just as the hologram will fade away when we stop putting our energy into it, just as any relationship will fade away and die if we stop loving our partner, just as Kellogg's will perish if we all stop buying their products

We are loved because we love. While we love we are loved by everything we love. The more we can remember who we really are, what we are really part of and our true purpose, the more we will love and the more we remember to love every bird, flower, insect and mountain, the more they will turn around and love us so that we can return to our true role. If nature is hostile to us, it is because we have made it so. The more we love nature, the less hostile it will become. What we see as "ferocious" beasts, will not harm us when we truly love them. For the Garden Of Eden to be restored we have to get rid of the hologram; stop feeding it with our energy. It is this hologram that has turned creatures into wild beasts and we, including ALL our ancestors, are responsible for this. The creatures, now hostile, are ONLY bouncing back the darkness we project and that darkness is the information of the hologram we think, feel and act on. The animals are trying to fit into the hologram. They are only doing what is asked of them because they love us.

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When conscious, and through consciousness, we think and feel the dream to create a table, we then act on this dream by putting our energy/power of creation into it to create it. In the same way, when conscious, we create the dream of our children and embody the dream with all our thoughts and feelings and explode this information (consciousness) into the dream though our egg and sperm. When do we need to get out a compass, square and tape-measure to size up our children before we create them?????

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We (MAN) cannot interact with the hologram with any of our senses of creation (sight, sound, touch, taste, feel, smell) without first destroying the natural world to create some physical/material form for the hologram that we can see, touch, taste, etc. We can only IMAGINE the hologram and project the IMAGES (the shadows) of the hologram for other men, women and children to imagine them as well, but at no time can we experience them with our senses of creation without first destroying LIFE (reality). We have to create a hologram (a shadow) that is our invisible SELF, Person, Strawman, etc, a DEMON cloaks the MAN we are because we have to think and feel the information of the hologram in order to interact with the hologram of the system. We had to create darkness (shadows) to interact with darkness (shadows) because the light can't see the darkness because it doesn't exist. The darkness is invisible but the Satanists revere it as being "illumined", and ALL powerful, The All Seeing Eye (and shadow/apparition/ghost/phantom/demon) Of Their Lord And God Satan. The non-life-sustainable thoughts and feelings of darkness are the invisible mind, the invisible intellect and the invisible ego that form the demon that cloaks (shadows) the MAN.

The disaster of this is that we are now slaves (worshipers) to the physical/material representation of the hologram because it is not life-sustainable and cannot maintain its form without our energy/power of creation. Note: it is a form (a shadow) rather than a life form. It has no life because it has no consciousness of the creator embodied in its form and this is why it is a dead-corpse. The creator put its consciousness into every life form the creator created so that it could be life-sustainable and re-create its form., e.g. seed to flower to seed to flower, etc,. Everything re-creating life (not after-----life) is embodying the consciousness (the life) of the creator.

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Bangoll

Step out of the hologram and you are back in paradise, no longer thinking, feeling and putting your energy/power of creation into the distortions that are the interweaving threads forming the evil fabric of the hologram (chaos, harm-doing, destruction, ridicule, abuse, persecution, arrogance, ignorance, fear, indifference, rage, anger, lust, greed, selfishness, power & control trips, isolation, separation, loneliness, emptiness, suicidal, insincerity, impurity, darkness, hell, etc, etc,).

All the best
Conscious Love Always
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

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