The Size And Structure Of The Universe According To The Bible And Non-Theoretical Science - Part I To Part III

The Size and Structure of the Universe - According to the Bible and Non-Theoretical Science
Part I - Star Reflections in The Biblical Model
From: http://www.fixedearth.com

The Size And Structure Of The Universe According To The Bible And Non-Theoretical Science - Part I To Part III: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6540
The Size And Structure Of The Universe According To The Bible And Non-Theoretical Science - Part IV To Part VII: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6536

Some twenty years of investigating claims that the the Earth rotates on an axis and orbits the Sun, and that the universe began evolving 15 billion years ago and is 15 billion light years thick, have left me without the slightest doubt:

a) That The Earth Is Not Moving;

b) That the Bible’s repeated declarations that it is the Sun that moves and not the Earth http://www.fixedearth.com/sixty-seven%20references.htm & http://www.fixedearth.com/links/gram_semant.htm are absolutely accurate;

c) That the Big Bang Model ruling today’s cosmology is handcuffed to the Copernican Heliocentricity Model;

d) That both of these Models are built solely on contra-scientific assumptions held together by occult mathematics http://www.fixedearth.com/Assumptions.htm and fraudulent use of computerized technology

1: http://www.fixedearth.com/Virtual%20Reality%20Fraud.htm
2: http://www.fixedearth.com/nasas_hanky-panky.htm
3: http://www.fixedearth.com/Redshift%20Fraud.htm
4: http://www.fixedearth.com/Size%20&%20Structure%20Part%20V.htm
5: http://www.fixedearth.com/Size%20and%20Structure%20Part%20VI.htm

e) That those deceptive and vulnerable assumptions now undergird the entirety of modern man’s "knowledge" http://www.fixedearth.com/knowledge%20impact.htm

f) That both the Heliocentricity and the Big Bang Models represent the fulfillment of a "creation scenario" of Kabbalic Judaism masquerading as "science" http://www.fixedearth.com/nasas_spiritual_roots.htm & http://www.fixedearth.com/kabbala%20VI.htm

g) That the purpose of this hidden religious agenda has been to destroy the "creation scenario" of the Bible and thereby destroy the credibility of the rest of the Bible right on through Jesus and the New Testament....

h) That the time for all who love truth over deception to give this issue their most careful and prayerful attention is now. This is especially true for all Christians who realize that their religion stands or falls on the the restoration of the absolute credibility of the Bible. This Biblical non-moving Earth issue alone can force that restoration and expose all the lies now connected with evolution-based false science (I Tim. 6:20,21).

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The Scriptural portrait of the size and structure of the universe that will be presented in this series of discourses involves many heretofore neglected Bible passages...and exposures of unfounded claims from the science community. As will be seen, these two factors combine to downsize the universe way beyond "dramatically". Indeed, this scriptural portrait downsizes the universe to a thickness that is absolutely unthinkable to all of our minds which have become so thoroughly indoctrinated into Kabbalist Kosmology’s Big Bang Model. That Model--with its billions of galaxies, trillions time trillions of stars in a 15 billion light year thick universe...swarming with evolving extraterrestrial life and still expanding at tremendous speed--is what we are bombarded with relentlessly in all media outlets. It is always called "science" and never called "religion", and we believe it and trust it.

In contrast to all those claims and the world’s acceptance of them, it will be demonstrated in this Series that the Bible’s description of the universe is backed by well-understood optically observed facts. Those facts and those Scriptures combine to shrink the size of the universe from the 15 billion light year thickness mantra of the Kabbala-derived Big Bang Paradigm to a radius of less than one light day.

We have already seen that not only is the Moving Earth Model constructed entirely of assumptions, but so also is all of modern cosmology that is built upon that Model http://www.fixedearth.com/Assumptions.htm More, we have seen that the Big Bang Paradigm now in firm control of modern cosmology is the fulfillment of an anti-Bible "creation scenario" taken from a "holy book" of the religion of Pharisaic Judaism. We have seen, in short, a religion disguised as "science" that has established a "creation scenario" which is well on the road to destroying Bible credibility and with it Christianity, the real enemy of Talmud/ Kabbala rooted Judaism

1: http://www.fixedearth.com/kabbala%20I.htm
2: http://www.fixedearth.com/kabbala%20II.htm
3: http://www.fixedearth.com/kabbala%20III.htm
4: http://www.fixedearth.com/kabbala%20IV.htm
5: http://www.fixedearth.com/kabbala%20V.htm
6: http://www.fixedearth.com/kabbala%20VI.htm
7: http://www.fixedearth.com/kabbala%20VII.htm

The only real obstacle to exposing this duplicity is the current computer-programmed Virtual Reality Technology http://www.fixedearth.com/Virtual%20Reality%20Fraud.htm upholding the Big Bang Expanding Universe Model. The speed required in that Model for getting the stars around the Earth every night is the only thing preventing a revolt against this mountain of deception masquerading as "science"...and forcing a return to the Biblical Model.

This new optically supported Biblical Model presented in the series of essays beginning here has the capability of removing that obstacle. See why this is so....

***The Size & Structure of the Universe According To The Bible***

The current cosmological fantasies of billions of galaxies extending out billions of light year distances from the Earth can be replaced with a model of the universe that has the happy capacity to satisfy both Geocentric Bible Scriptures and non-theoretical science.

With minimal commentary, let’s begin with some of the neglected size and structure mandates that the Biblical Model of the Universe authorizes. Then, once these are understood, we can bring in more evidence in Parts II thru VII. Taken together, this evidence will end any substantive reason for denying the Scriptural Model and will present a clear choice to all who hear of it.

Aside from anti-Copernican and anti-evolution information stressed throughout this web page, a great part of everything any of us need to know about the Biblical Model of the Universe can be found on its first page. Accordingly, before going on to less familiar and rarely considered verses, let’s make a very careful study of the word meanings found in Genesis I--particularly verses 1, 2, 6-10, 14-18,& 20--which describe the structure of the Universe...and see what they tell us:

Genesis 1:1

In the beginning God created

the HEAVEN and the EARTH.

NOTE: In Strong’s Concordance the Hebrew for HEAVEN (#8064) is: "lofty, high, exalted", and EARTH (#776) is: "firm land, ground...".

Genesis I:2

And the EARTH was without form, and void;

and darkness was upon the face of the DEEP.

And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the WATERS.

NOTE: DEEP (#8415): an abyss (as a surging mass of water), deep...sea....WATERS (#4325): "water"....

Genesis 1:6

And God said,

Let there be a FIRMAMENT

in the MIDST of the WATERS,

and let it [the firmament] DIVIDE the WATERS

from the WATERS.

NOTE: FIRMAMENT: #7549 (7554) - "an expanse...apparently the visible arch of the sky." Also #7554 - to expand...to overlay...stretch. MIDST: #8432 - "middle - between - half". DIVIDE: #914 - "separate".

Comment: So, the Firmament, i.e., the expanse we call the visible arch of the sky, is located in the middle, between "the waters" and separates "the waters...."

Genesis 1:7

And God made the Firmament,

and Divided [separated] the Waters [covering earth, v.2]

which were UNDER the Firmament

from the Waters which were

ABOVE the Firmament:

and it was so.

NOTE: UNDER #8478: "below...underneath...beneath...."

ABOVE #5921: "above...over..." Can mean "against"...("yet always in this last relation with a downward aspect") [i.e., the Firmament can be "against", but only on the bottom side of those Waters.]

Comment: Again, we notice three distinct entities, namely: 1) the "Waters" on the earth (v.2) which are specifically located UNDER the Firmament; 2) the "Firmament" itself which is the expansive visible arch of the sky, and; 3) the "Waters" which are ABOVE the expansive arch of the sky, i.e., ABOVE the Firmament.

Genesis 1:8

And God called the Firmament HEAVEN....

Comment: Heaven is located in the Firmament, i.e., Heaven IS the Firmament; the Firmament IS Heaven. HEAVEN (#8064)--as noted in verse one--means "lofty, high, exalted". Scripturally, the two words are interchangeable as far as designated location in the structure of the universe goes. (Psalm 150:1: "Praise God in His sanctuary; praise Him in the firmament [expanse] of His power.")

Genesis 1:9

And God said,

Let the Waters under the Heaven [firmament]

be gathered together into one place,

and let the dry land appear:

and it was so.

Comment: This verse confirms that the Waters UNDER the Heaven/Firmament is a reference to the water that covered the EARTH totally, and which was then "gathered" (#6960 - "bind together - collect") so that the land appeared.

Genesis 1:10

And God called the dry land Earth;

and the gathering together of the Waters

called He seas;

and God saw that it was good.

Comment: Another affirmation that the Waters under Heaven (the firmament) is a reference to the Waters on the Earth. [Verses 11,12,13 speak of the creation of grass, herbs, fruit, trees...and the emphasis on the seeds and everything "after its kind" (an unbroken botanical--and biological--law, nullifying evolutionism...)].

Genesis 1:14

And God said:

Let there be LIGHTS [#3974 - luminous bodies]

in the Firmament of Heaven

to Divide the day from the night,

and let them [the lights] be for signs and seasons

and for days and years.

NOTE: LIGHTS: #3974: "luminous bodies"....

Comment: So, these luminous bodies (lights) are set inside of and restricted to the Firmament where there is Water both beneath and above. These lights serve specific purposes, all for mankind alone.

Genesis 1:15

And let them [the luminous bodies] be for lights

IN the Firmament of the Heaven

to give light upon the earth:

and it was so.

Comment: Confirms the location and purpose of the "lights", viz., they are IN the Firmament/Heaven, and they are there purposefully to give light upon the earth.

Genesis 1:16

And God made two great lights;

the greater light to rule the day [the sun],

and the lesser light to rule the night [the moon]:

He made the STARS also.

Comment: Three sources of Light are created and situated in the Firmament, namely, the Sun, the Moon, and the Stars.

Genesis 1:17

And God set them [all three sources of light]

IN the Firmament of Heaven

to give light upon the Earth.

Comment: Lest there be any doubt, we again see that these three sources of Light (sun, moon, stars) are specifically located IN the Firmament/Heavens and have the specific purpose of giving "light upon the Earth".

Genesis 1:18

...And to rule over the day and over the night,

and to Divide the Light from the Darkness:

and God saw that it was good.

Comment: The specific purpose of the different Lights (sun, moon, stars) is again stressed. God uses the Lights to dispel the Darkness (which He also creates: Is. 45:7) in the daytime with the Sun, and to illuminate the Darkness at night with the Moon and the Stars. All three Light sources are situated inside the Firmament/Heaven.

Genesis 1:20

And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly

the moving creature that hath life,

and fowl that may fly above the earth

in the open firmament [expanse] of heaven.

Comment: Here we see that the firmament/expanse of heaven comes right down to where the fowls of the air fly, and they fly right down to the earth to snap up a rodent or a fish don’t they? So the "waters below" fit the Hebrew connotation of "below" (#8478) which is: "below, underneath, beneath", i.e., they are underneath this 1st part of the firmament/heaven.

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Thus, regardless of speculations and interpretations, the six rudimentary Biblical facts about the structure of the universe given in Genesis I are:

1) The Earth is the focal point of everything...the first created part of the structure of God’s Creation of the Universe. (Since the universal acceptance of Copernicanism, of course, cosmologists have relegated the Earth to the status of an infinitesimal speck of cosmic flotsam indebted to the sun’s fortuitous proximity for its ineffable array of plant and animal and human life and all that goes with it. Copernicanism re-activated a not-so-subtle form of Pagan Sun-Worship and we call it "science".)

2) The second part of the structure of the universe is the space--and its components (the atmosphere where birds fly, the clouds, magnetosphere, Van Allen Belt, ozone layer, etc.)--between the Earth and the limit of its gravitational and/or electromagnetic influence. This distance is said to be 216,000 miles, just 5000 miles short of the Moon at perigee or 36,000 miles at apogee.

3) The third part of the structure of the universe is the one that starts where the Earth’s influence ends, i.e., basically the Moon, and also includes the sun and all the way to the end of the accepted accepted influence of the sun (the heliopause)...which is the (recently demoted) planet Pluto. This third part of the Biblical structure of the universe is the second of three regions or zones of what the Scriptures call the "Firmament" and the "Heavens". Scripturally, there are three "heavens" (II Cor. 12:2), i.e., three parts to the "firmament". This part--the moon, sun, and planets--constitute the second part of the firmament...or the second heaven.

4) The fourth part of the structure of the universe is the realm of the stars. Scripturally, as we shall see, the stars are in the 3rd Heaven of the firmament.

5) The fifth part of the structure of the universe according to the Scriptures is a zone above the stars where God’s temporary Throne and all His activities are located (Is. 66:22; 65:17; Jn. 14:2; Rev. 21:1, 3; etc.). This is still the 3rd heaven (II Cor. 12-2), i.e., it is still the 3rd part of the firmament where the stars are located... but is it is above and beyond the last star in that zone.

6) The sixth and final part of the structure of the universe according to the Scriptures (explained just ahead) is called "the waters above the firmament". (This sixth part is the outer limit beyond which the existence of no other entity is indicated).

That’s it. That is a verbal description of a static cut-away view of the physical structure of the universe from the Earth outward, according to the Bible. (Graphic descriptions of this and related schematics are given in the seventh essay...after all the written information and explanations have been furnished.)

We begin here with some very interesting details which flow from these six rudimentary Biblical facts,

details which tell us much more about size and structure. For example:

1) The Moon --as we’ve seen--is described as being inside the Firmament/ Heaven (Gen. 1:14-17). Since the Moon at Perigee comes as close to the Earth as c.221,000 miles and goes no further out from the Earth at Apogee than c.252.000 miles, it follows that what the Bible defines as the entrance into the 2nd Firmament (Heaven) is never any further away from Earth in this Biblical structure of the universe than just over a quarter of a million miles.

2) At first glance, this distance...this dimension seems to be the only one that is actually inherent in the structural facts that are given. But a closer look at the components (moon, sun, planets) of the 2nd zone of the firmament, i.e., the 2nd zone of the three heavens, actually gives us a distance marker which--inflated or not--is pretty standard in the books, viz., the distance from Earth to the last "planet" Pluto. That distance is given as 3,670, 000,000 miles. So, from a Scriptural standpoint, we can confidently assert that the second part of the Firmament/Heaven--which begins at the Moon’s average negligible distance from Earth of c. 238,000 miles and ends at the furthermost reach of the last "planet"--is actually some 3,670,000,000 miles thick. Thus, we know that the thickness of the 2nd heaven part of the three-part firmament begins with the Moon’s position between Perigee and Apogee and that it ends just beyond the last most distant "planet" (Pluto). That distance is standardized in the books as being 3,670,000,000 miles... and is acceptable for the conclusions of these essays even though there is good reason to suspect that this figure--as with all other deep space distances--is substantially inflated.

3) Beyond that 2nd heaven, as we have seen, there is another zone, a 3rd heaven, which completes the Biblical firmament. Scripturally, this 3rd zone of the firmament/heaven contains ALL of the stars. They are "sealed up" in that zone (Job. 9:7). Also, Scripturally, we know there is yet another structural entity "above the stars" (Isaiah 14:13) but which is still located in the 3rd part of the firmament/heaven, being designated as the location of God’s Throne (II Cor. 12:2). We will look at those verses in the appropriate place. Already, though, it should be obvious that the part of the Biblical structure of the universe where the stars are located is: a) A finite, specified band around the Earth; b) A zone where ALL stars are confined; c) A zone/band in the firmament which is above that zone/band which contains the sun, moon, and planets and is 3,670,000,000 miles thick; d) A zone in the firmament which includes God’s Throne and His present operations above all the stars but still in the 3rd heaven/firmament...the thickness of which is estimable from Scripture, as will be seen further along; e) The star-filled 3rd heaven of the firmament is revolving around the Earth every 23 hours and 56 minutes; f) Its thickness is finite and, Scripturally, needs be no more than the thickness of the 2nd part of the firmament/heaven, i.e., 3,670,000,000 miles. Indeed, it could be substantially less given a Scriptural design feature in the structure of the universe which provides a mechanism for innumerable reflective reproductions of the finite and comprehensible number of stars that are really known to exist. More later on this....

4)The final part of the structure of the universe is described as the "Waters" that are "Above" the Firmament. As to the description of these "Waters Above" and how far above the Firmament they are--and even how thick they are-- the curious connotation of the Hebrew word "Above" in this context provides information that forces conclusions about all three of these questions.

Let’s focus here on this Biblical extremity of the structure of the universe for a bit and then continue with those other distance markers: Observe:

a) As quoted in the Note under Genesis 1:7, "Above" can mean "against". In other words, the "Waters Above" the Firmament could begin right where the Firmament ends. Under this connotation, the part of the structure of the universe called "the Waters Above the Firmament" could be just "on top of"--i. e., "above"--the Firmament...much as the cover of a ball would be "above" or "on top of" the air inside. According to the Hebrew meaning of "above" in the context, the final part of the structure of the universe ("the Waters Above the Firmament") could be--but is not necessarily--against the Firmament itself.

b) However, this indecision causes us to focus on the use of the words MIDST and DIVIDE in verse 6. The note there tells us that the meaning of MIDST is also flexible in this context. It can mean the MIDDLE or it can mean BETWEEN. If it means "middle" then it could be "against" the waters above just like the waters under the firmament/heaven are "against" the Earth. Also, even if MIDST means "between", the firmament/heaven could be "against" the ‘waters above" as it is against the "waters below" and still be "between" the waters below and above, and thus also seem to accommodate the Scriptures on this point.

c) Furthermore, the meanings of the words DIVIDE and DIVIDED in verses 6 and 7 are non-elastic. The words mean "separate". Thus, grammatically and semantically, the only solution is to conclude that the firmament at both extremes is "against" (contiguous with) the "waters below and above"...but, nevertheless, they are still physically separate entities by reason of their functions and roles in the overall structure. Strong additional confirmation of this conclusion was seen in the verse from Gen. 1:7 (p. 3) where the Hebrew definition of "above" (... "from the waters which were above the firmament....") prepares us for an inescapable conclusion about the final part of the Biblical structure of the universe. Remember that definition of "above" #5921? It said that it can mean "against"...("yet always in this last relation with a downward aspect"). That is to say: The firmament/heaven can be "against" the "waters above" but only on the bottom side of those waters. If those "waters above" have a bottom side, they must have a top side. Whatever has a bottom and a top is a finite entity that has a thickness. We will see the Biblically inescapable composition of this final part of the size and structure of the universe in Part II, ("The Biblical Role of Water Crystals in Determining the Size and Structure of the Universe" http://www.fixedearth.com/Ssize%20and%20Structure%20Part%20II.htm So, grammatically and semantically, this understanding puts the Firmament literally in the middle/MIDST of the Waters Under the Firmament and the Waters Above the Firmament, and also literally BETWEEN the two.

d) The reason for this rather tedious analysis is to underline three things: FIRST, It’s not smart to mess around with God’s words. He says exactly what He means and He means exactly what He says. (Apply that truism to: "Sun, stand thou still" and other geocentricity Scriptures http://www.fixedearth.com/sixty-seven%20references.htm especially if you are a Bible-believing Christian or Jew [or a Koran-believing Moslem for that matter: http://www.fixedearth.com/koran.html ] and see where you come out!) SECOND, though we still don’t know how thick the entire Scriptural Firmament/Heaven is, we know that the distance from the 1st to the 2nd heaven is in the quarter-million mile range and the thickness of the 2nd heaven--which begins with the Moon and ends with the last "Planet" Pluto--is rounded off in the books at 3,670,000,000 miles. These are definitely the kinds of distance figures that tell us that we can expect equally intelligible distances when we determine the thickness of the starry realm and, indeed, the entire universe according to the Bible. THIRD, the assurance that the outer and final part of the structure of the universe incorporates a watery rim or boundary of some sort underscores the certainty that the Scriptural "lights in the Firmament"-- specifically the Stars in the 3rd heaven--ARE BEING REFLECTED off of that watery shell back toward the Earth.

Indeed, these REFLECTIONS speak loudly of a fact endorsed by both the Bible and by optical science, a fact which devastates any cosmological model of the universe which claims billions of galaxies with zillions of stars that are billions of light year distances away from Earth!

If, in short, we limit ourselves to what the Bible actually says and what optical science confirms about the structure of the universe, it becomes immediately obvious that the stars that are really out there are in a finite zone no thicker than the 2nd heaven--i.e., well under four billion miles; and they are in a configuration that makes it optically certain that they are being REFLECTED innumerable times off of "the waters above" the firmament.

And, equally obvious in such a structure is the realization that these REFLECTIONS are what are being mistakenly (or knowingly!) counted as actual stars! From a Scriptural standpoint (certified by non-theoretical physical science) this false count and description is what is giving credibility to the size and makeup of the universe as taught in the Big Bang Expanding Universe Paradigm.

Since that Paradigm has been demonstrated http://www.fixedearth.com/nasas_spiritual_roots.htm & http://www.fixedearth.com/kabbala%20VI.htm to be nothing more nor less than the establishment of the "creation scenario" of anti-Bible Kabbalist Phariseeism, the contest about the structure and size of the universe must henceforward never be treated as a contest between a discredited Biblical Model and a non-religious Science Model, as the world has been led to treat the issue. Al contraire! The truth of the matter is simply that two religions with two irreconcilable "creation scenarios" are in a death struggle for the control of men’s minds about the content of all knowledge and the ultimate concept of God (g-d).

That struggle began in earnest when the Copernican Revolution succeeded in theoretically turning the Earth into a lucky cosmological accident orbiting a mediocre star in a universe that never ended. That struggle will be brought to a close when the deceptions now hiding the Kabbalist success are exposed and the size and the structure of the universe is seen to be the Biblical Model after all.

In Part II and beyond we will look further into the Scriptural and Optical reasons for these innumerable reflections as they relate to the "thickness", i.e., the distance through the Firmament/ Heaven, and thus to the size of the universe.

To finish here, though, we must take a closer look at the Scriptural reference to the "Third Heaven" mentioned in II Cor.12:2 and "Paradise" mentioned in verse 4:

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II Corinthians 12:2-4

"I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago,

(whether he’s dead or alive, God knows);

such an one caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. (v.2)

And I knew such a man

(whether he’s dead or alive, God knows); (v.3)

How that he was caught up into PARADISE.... (v.4)

As we saw earlier, the Greek meaning of the word for "Heaven" (#3772) in the context of v.2 is: "...the sky; by extension, heaven (as the abode of God)".... A companion derivative (#3735) incorporates "the idea of elevation"....

Since, as we’ve also seen, Scripture repeatedly makes it plain that HEAVEN is synonymous with FIRMAMENT as far as structural location in the universe is concerned, the reference by the Apostle Paul to a THIRD heaven demands the conclusion that the Firmament/Heaven itself contain three distinct parts or areas or zones...since no fourth or fifth heaven is mentioned nor would fit the Scriptures as they stand. (Interestingly, here is one of the connotations given in the second reference for "firmament", i.e., #7554: "...to expand (by hammering); by implication, to overlay (with thin sheets of metal)...spread abroad (...into plates)." The definition of HEAVEN in verse 2 tells us that the THIRD area or zone or realm is the most elevated one in the firmament. (...elevated from what if not from those on Earth reading about it?!) This is the zone which harbors God’s abode during this temporary creation of heaven and earth (Isaiah 65:17;66:22; Rev. 20:11; 21:1,3: http://www.fixedearth.com/newrenew.htm). Indeed, this is the "Paradise"(#3857) of God, i.e., the New Jerusalem with "the tree of life" in its midst", (Rev. 2:7), and resting gloriously on the New Earth planned some 2700 years ago (Is. 66:22; Jn.14:2,3;etc.)

The definition #7554 tells us that this most elevated zone is somehow "expanded" due to some kind of "overlay". We shall look at those aspects of the structure of the universe very specifically in Part II. But for now, this parenthetical note regarding clues about the size of the New Heavens (Is. 65:17; 66:22; II Pet. 3:10-13; Rev. 21:1) i.e., the New Universe, seems appropriate: (According to my calculations, the promised eternal New Earth will have to be immensely larger to accommodate the dimensions of the New Jerusalem as given in Rev. 21:16, if all things are kept proportional to the present earth.... The "floor plan" of the New Jerusalem alone is bigger than the sub-continent of India, and France, and England combined, so the New Earth could hardly be otherwise than vastly larger than this old earth. The size and distance of the moon and sun in the promised New Heavens would also be proportionally different. If the "City Foursquare" is pyramidal (as is most likely) the height of the outer walls (216 ft: Rev. 21:17) could be an indication of the distance of the offset for each layer to the top...which is fifteen hundred miles from the base. The present size and structure of the Earth and heavens is just a small scale temporary model compared to the promised eternal model!)

So, regardless of their size, the chief distinctions of the New Heavens and New Earth are that they are eternal rather than temporary, and--as is stated plainly (Rev.21:3)--God the Father and Jesus the Son will dwell with redeemed mankind on the New Earth http://www.fixedearth.com/trinity%2012%20pg.%20Clarification.htm rather than out at the extremity of the New Heavens as They do now in these temporary heavens (John 7:34; Acts 2:33; John 14:2,3)...and as They will continue to do until this first stage of His eternal Plan is completed and the Old Heavens and Old Earth are gone (Is. 65:17; II Pet. 3:10-12; Rev.20:11; 21:1; http://www.fixedearth.com/trinity%2012%20pg.%20Clarification.htm again). From this and all the foregoing information, Scripture-based logical proof exists for the present earth being the precise stationary center of the universe. That is to say, we are not talking about the current Machian Geocentricity Model anymore, but rather we are talking about a Geocentrism/Geostatic Model wherein this Earth is the absolute center of everything in the universe.

This is a good place to be reminded of what we find in Job 22 about the shape of God’s present abode in heaven:

Job 22:14

"...and HE walketh in the circuit of heaven."

NOTE: "walketh": #1980: "to walk".

"circuit": #2329: "a circle".......properly #2287: "to move in a circle", cf: #2328: "to describe a circle; a compass", cf #2283: "TO REVOLVE".

Comment: Since God’s temporary dwelling place has been established as being above the stars in the furthermost part of the Third Heaven--and since we see here in Job that the shape of that Third Heaven is circular--it follows inexorably that, not only the 2nd heaven below it--and the 1st heaven below the 2nd--are circular as well, but also that the "waters above" are on the underside of a circular "overlaying" dome of some sort which encompasses the entire universe. These structural features confirm what seemed clear but was not stated in the previous Scriptural descriptions, and they will be made even more certain in Scriptures yet to be stressed in Parts II and III and beyond.

Equally significant, is the Scriptural demand that the 3rd heaven zone of the three-zone Firmament, i.e., the part with ALL the stars in it, MUST REVOLVE NIGHTLY AROUND THE EARTH TO ACCOMMODATE THE MULTIPLE SCRIPTURES DECLARING A STATIONARY EARTH http://www.fixedearth.com/sixty-seven%20references.htm

The other point about God "walking" in the 3rd heaven tells us plenty too! It corroborates verses such as II Chron. 16:9: "For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro through the whole earth..." These tell us that the 3rd part of the heaven/ firmament where God presently dwells also revolves around the Earth, and that means that--Biblically--the Earth is at the center of the whole structure!

This should be no surprise. According to Scripture--and before the Copernican Paradigm laid the foundation for supplanting true science with false science--the Earth was obviously the center of the universe and everything-- including the starry realm and God’s heavenly but temporary dwelling place--was going around it. "Science falsely so called" (I Tim. 6:20,21) has changed people’s perception of that reality, but it has not changed the reality!

The Earth--both cosmographically and spiritually--is the specially created focus of Creation where God the Father would reveal Himself and His Eternal Plan for mankind through His Son Jesus the Christ and through His inspired, infallible Old and New Testaments of the Bible (II Tim. 3:16,17). The Earth is not "...an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people..." (http://www.fixedearth.com/theoretical_science_establishmen.htm p.11) as the late famed (or infamous) "exobiologist" Carl Sagan dutifully opined (in keeping with his monumental contribution to the furthering of the Kabbalist "creation scenario" and the resulting rapidly accelerating decline in Bible credibility that his fantasies have furthered). That reigning nihilistic concept of modern cosmology, and all that is derived from it, is Satan inspired deceptive pagan mythology and is right on track to being exposed as such. http://www.fixedearth.com/Sola%20Scriptura%20IV.htm

So, to sum up these last additions regarding some of the Scriptural Specifications about the size and structure and function of the present Universe and the one to come, and ask a few more relevant questions, let’s recap and amplify:

1) Heaven--God’s present location at the very extremity of the third zone of the firmament--is only conceivable when considered from the vantage point of a stationary earth at the center of the universe.

2) God changes His location from that extremity of the third zone of the present Heaven in this first creation to a new location on the promised New Earth where it is stated that He will dwell with mankind eternally (Rev. 21:3). (Q.) But where is that New Earth to be located relevant to the New Heavens? (A.) The Center, just as in the Old Earth pattern.

3) We read that this old earth is dissolved and melts away (II Pet. 3:10-13), and that it flees away and is never seen again (Rev. 20:11) nor is even "remembered nor comes to mind" (Is. 65:17). So there is a certain place in these old heavens where this first earth is located in God’s "stage one" Plan for Eternity...before it is destroyed and removed from that location forever. (Q.) Where is that spot? (A.) Scripturally, the center of the universe.

4) John, The Revelator, said: "...I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away....And I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven...." (Rev. 21:1,2). (Q.) Down to where? (A.) The New Jerusalem that "comes down" rests on the ground of the New Earth in the same way the Old Jerusalem is built on the ground of this Old Earth. When the city "comes down out of heaven", the New Earth on which it sets comes with it. The statement that the New Earth with the New Jerusalem "comes down out of heaven", i.e., out of the most elevated part of the "heaven/ firmament" of the present structure, indicates that it is coming to the same structural location in the New Heavens as the old earth Biblically occupies in the present heavens (until it flees away and is forgotten: Rev. 20:11; Is. 65:17), i.e., the center of the (New) Universe.

5) "...Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself shall be with them, and be their God" (Rev. 21:3). (Q.) So, again, where is this eternal New Earth dwelling place of God and redeemed mankind located in the New Heavens? (A.) In the New Jerusalem on the New Earth in the center of the New Heavens.

6) For the New Jerusalem on the New Earth http://www.fixedearth.com/newrenew.htm to be coming down out of the disappearing Old Heavens into the New Heavens means there is a point at the center where the New Earth has to stop lest it go right past the center and somewhere back into the firmament zone much like it occupied in the Old Earth system! So, does this New Earth stop coming down when it reaches the spot that is the precise and immovable center of the New Heavens? Well, Scripturally, logically, and probably electromagnetically, that is where it will stop and remain eternally. Scripturally, there is no detectable difference in the structure of the New Universe with its New Heavens and New Earth except that the eternal thrones of God the Father and Jesus the Son are moved from their location in the most elevated part of the 3rd heaven in this temporary universe to the center of the New Heavens in the eternal universe. (...About those thrones: http://www.fixedearth.com/trinity%2012%20pg.%20Clarification.htm p.7). This is the location that befits the Creators of this New Universe, New Earth, and New Jerusalem (Is. 65:17,18; 66:22; John 14:2;), And, again, Scripturally, it differs from the old earth design only in the re-location of the New Jerusalem on the New Earth from its present "construction site" at the extremity of the 3rd heaven to the center of the eternal New Heavens (II Cor. 12:2,4; John 14:2; Is. 66:22). (See, p.11). As noted, the scale of the New Earth and the New Heavens--as required by the obviously literal dimensions of the New Jerusalem: Rev.21:16,17--will doubtless be enormously larger).

7) Since this New Earth will be immovable at the center of the revolving moon and sun in the New Heavens (Is. 66:23; http://www.fixedearth.com/dayheaven.htm), and since Jesus has been working on townhouse mansions in the New Jerusalem for the redeemed on that same New Earth (John 14:2,3), it is a Scriptural imperative that the relocation of the New Earth at the center will emulate the location of the old earth which Scripture placed at the center in the first creation (Gen. 1:1-16; Josh. 10:12; http://www.fixedearth.com/sixty-seven%20references.htm).

So--considering everything up to now--the Scripturally certified rebuttal to what cosmologists tell us are gazillions of stars in billions of galaxies that are billions of years old and are billions of light years distant from we earthlings, is--in purely Bible terms--a fantasized, false concept of the universe. This fantasized concept has nothing whatsoever to do with real science, but stems from the "creation scenario" of another "holy book" belonging to an implacably vengeful anti-Christ religion. (So there is ample MOTIVE behind this mega scam to defeat the Plan of God the Father through Jesus the Son by destroying the credibility of the Bible through the establishment of an evolved-- instead of a created--universe and mankind, you see...)

So too, in purely Biblical terms--as we are beginning to see--there is really a large but limited number of stars being REFLECTED off of a watery shell (which shell we will examine in some detail in Part II). The very entrance of the concept of reflections into an understanding of how our universe is perceived is--as we will continue to see--a concept that is unavoidable in Scripture and undeniable in basic optical science.

And--to the big point in these discourses--it is a concept that shrinks the size of this temporary universe super-dramatically from the size pounded into all our heads today...to a size that allows the stars to go around nightly as mandated in the Bible and as we see them do from our non-moving Earth platform at the center of the universe.

How dramatically is "super-dramatically"? Well, as noted early on: From a thickness of over 15 billion light years to a thickness to barely 1/2 of one light day.... (That’s about one ten trillionth as big as the BB Paradigm.) Is that dramatic enough??

Alpha Centuri, for example, is said to be 4.1 light years away. The would be about 24 trillion miles. As with all light year distances--now dumped on the public with the greatest air of exactitude (much as evolutionary "scientists" throw out time frames of hundreds of millions of years from their deceptive time dating techniques http://www.fixedearth.com/the_bible/evolutionsales.html pp. 21-27), we must realize that we are talking pure fantasy here; fantasy based on metaphysically contrived mathematical models locked into the Kabbalist Expanding Universe Model and promoted through fraudulent use of technology

But, if Scripture puts all the stars in the third zone of the Firmament (the second zone of which includes the moon, the sun, and the planets to Pluto...some 3,670,000,000 miles thick), we can be assured that the true realm of the stars from the closest one to the furthermost does not require a zone one inch thicker than the zone from the Moon to Pluto. (After all, we are talking 3,670 x 1 million miles thick! That is plenty of room for all the known stars. All the rest is attributable to reflections!)

In short, the sum of these real distances in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd heavens describes the radius of the universe from Earth through the starry realm of the 3rd heaven. To that radius can be added the thickness of the 3rd heaven itself which is above the stars and can also be estimated from the Scriptural requirement for the space needed for God’s operations there on the New Earth which He promised to create 2700 years ago (Is. 66:22; 65:17; II Pet. 3:10-13; Rev. 21:1-3). That dimension could easily be much, much less than we are going to allot to it and, as will be apparent, even thus magnified it will have only a small impact on the overall radius.

Thus, even when we allow the distance through the starry realm (the stellatum) of the 3rd heaven to be the same as the 2nd heaven thickness, namely, 3,670,000,000 miles, we have a radius from the Earth to the last star of some 7,340,000,000 miles. The thickness that is required of God’s Paradisical 3rd heaven zone itself is related to the space necessary for carrying out the temporary operations going on there, most notably the promised creation of the New Earth, which will doubtless be enormously larger than this present temporary Earth. How much space is necessary for that project? Would a zone around this old Earth that is fifty million miles thick be enough room? A hundred million miles? One hundred and sixty million miles (to round off the combined distances to 7 1/2 billion miles)?? Why not Six hundred and sixty million miles which rounds the whole distance off to Eight Billion Miles?? We would still be looking at a radius of the entire universe that includes very generous distance allowances to meet the Scriptural requirements and would still be barely one half of one light DAY thick! (The thickness of the "waters above" has no substantive effect at all on the overall dimension, as we shall see in Part II; nor does the 1/4 million miles from the Earth to the Moon. So, basically, the inflated eight billion mile radius easily accommodates the size of the universe that the Bible endorses, and flatly defies the size required by Kabbalist Kosmology which is at least an incomprehensible, unverifiable, and utterly mythological ten trillion times bigger.)

Plainly, as will become increasingly clear, this radically sanforized Model of the Universe accommodates not only Scripture, but all that is actually known scientifically! It is still huge, but not fantastically huge beyond belief and beyond what is required! It is a reasonable size from our reasonable God (Isaiah 1:18). In plain fact, Biblically speaking, these shrunken dimensions are doubly reasonable. After all, this universe is repeatedly labeled a preliminary "stage one" structure of a system scheduled to be utterly destroyed, removed, and forgotten (Is. 65.17; 66:22; II Pet.3:1-12; Rev. 20:11; http://www.fixedearth.com/newrenew.htm). When it is gone it is then replaced with a New Heavens and a New Earth which--as we’ve seen--include a New Jerusalem wherein God the Father and the Lord Jesus will dwell along with redeemed mankind eternally (Is. 65:17; 66:24; Rev. 21:3; 22:1,3). There is simply no Scriptural or scientific or logical reason for the billions of light years distances required by the Kabbalist fantasy about the thickness of the universe. There is a Religious reason however, namely, establishing the victory of the Kabbalist g-d over the Biblical God.

Does Lucifer’s boast (Isaiah 14:13,14) have no bearing on all this?:

"...thou (O Lucifer) hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God... I will be like the most High...."

With all this in mind, we can go now to Part II and get a very clear Scriptural understanding of the nature and the role of the "waters above" in the present structure of the universe.

"Highly Reflective Water Crystals Are The ‘Waters Above’ the Biblical Firmament"

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Link to this posting: http://www.fixedearth.com/Size%20and%20Structure%20Part%20I.htm

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The Size and Structure of the Universe - According to the Bible and Non-Theoretical Science
Part II - Highly Reflective Water Crystals

Are the "Waters Above" the Biblical Firmament

The part of the whole Biblical concept of the size and structure of the universe that stumped me the most involved the "waters above" the firmament. It seemed readily apparent that these waters not only could provide a reflective surface for all the stars below, but that, indeed, there could be no way that such reflection could be avoided.

Also, it seemed equally apparent that--given the enormous possibilities involved in the dispersion of those reflections--that some very great percentage of all the stars ever allegedly seen are really reflections... either of real stars or of other reflections. The effect of such an understanding upon the actual number of stars there are, and the corresponding dramatic shrinkage of the size of the universe could be missed by no one. Then, with corroborating evidence that star reflections are not only Biblically but also scientifically capable of producing a viable model of the universe that would scrap all of modern cosmology since Copernicus, the true size of the universe could indeed be spectacularly sanforized and tailored to somewhat less than a radius of one light day...as we have already begun to see.

Fine, I thought. But how could the stars and their reflections always be where they actually are if they were reflected off of "water" ...unless somehow the water was perfectly undisturbed? If, however, the water itself were perfectly still with the starry "stellatum" of the 3rd heaven in the firmament revolving nightly around the Earth and the "waters above" synchronously revolving with it, such a structure would definitely fit the Scriptures and would seem to satisfy all that is actually seen and known.

Yet, since only about 6000 stars can be seen with the naked eye in both hemispheres, and since it would be certain that these would be reflected off of those "waters above", we would probably conclude that only one reflection per star would be produced off of water that is perfectly still. That would only give us 12000 points of light--half stars and half reflections--in the entire universe. Modern cosmology claims there are billions of galaxies with trillions of stars in each galaxy.

One may detect a slight discrepancy in those comparative numbers....

The obvious solution? Well, scoff at this or any other small number, of course!

But wait! What if the "science" behind those gazillions of stars is demonstrably built on observation denying assumptions at every step from the Copernican Model to the Big Bang Model http://www.fixedearth.com/Assumptions.htm ?? And what if occult math and fraudulent use of technology are shown to be behind every phony piece of Big Bang hype dosed out in all media http://www.fixedearth.com/Virtual%20Reality%20Fraud.htm & http://www.fixedearth.com/nasas_hanky-panky.htm & http://www.fixedearth.com/Redshift%20Fraud.htm ...& much more to come in Parts V & VI)? And what if the long held secret is out that the entire Big Bang Paradigm is actually the fulfillment of a "creation" scenario" from ancient Rabbinic writings in the mystic Kabbala, a holy book of Pharisaic Judaism http://www.fixedearth.com/kabbala%20VI.htm & http://www.fixedearth.com/nasas_spiritual_roots.htm ? And what if the NASA-controlled space program is boldly designated "The Origins Program" devoted to "finding our cosmic roots", i.e., devoted to spending billions of taxpayer’s money to promote factless extraterrestrial evolutionism http://www.fixedearth.com/nasas_agenda.htm ? And what if a cadre of latter-day Saganite cyberpunks have admittedly turned computer-programmed space technology into a Virtual Reality video game that aids and abets the Kabbalic Kosmology http://www.fixedearth.com/Virtual%20Reality%20Fraud.htm ? And so what if the Biblical Model of a non-moving Earth fits all the observational and experimental evidence http://www.fixedearth.com/Size%20and%20Structure%20Part%20I.htm ?

So what??

Well, Kabbalic Kosmology masquerading as "science" is Biblically scheduled to get its mask ripped off "one hour" after a One World Government is seated (Rev. 17:12-14; 18:2; 13:2b-8), that’s so what.... It’s called "The Fall of Babylon", i.e., "The Fall of Confusion" (Rev. 14:8; 17:5,14,18; 18:2,4, 8-19).

The only thing holding the whole mountain of cosmological deceptions together is the belief that all of them are safe and secure because "science" has put the stars so far away from the Earth that even God couldn’t get them around nightly...as the Biblical Model and observation demand. Ipso facto, the Devil says smugly: ‘The Copernican foundation to all the rest of my deceptions can never be convincingly defeated and Bible credibility can never be restored. The hold that the Bible has on a dying generation of its faithful followers is doomed to collapse in short order, dragging Jesus and New Testament Christianity down with it!’ (This is the assessment of all attempts to expose and defeat the powerful forces upholding Satan’s Empire of Babylon in the world today as expressed in Revelation 18:7: "...for she [Babylon- Satan’s Empire] saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow". And, even after Babylon is brought down - Rev. 17:14-18 - and regroups - R. 18:2 - and becomes overtly Satan-worshipping - R. 13:4 - there is only defiance - v.4).

Now, although the geocentric Machian Model of the "solar" system and the universe may be just as good mathematically as the current Kabbalic Model, it will never attract more than a few windmill tilters as long as a 15 billion light year thick universe holds the fort and prevents an intelligibly small universe model from getting those stars close enough to go around nightly as observed. A demonstrably viable "Small Universe Model" would change all that very quickly. It would, in effect, remove the only objection to validating the non-moving Earth model and would pull the plug on the entire Kabbalic Kosmos and all the Bible-bashing lies riding on it.

With that said, let’s return to a closer look at the Biblical "waters above" the 3rd heaven of the firmament and see just how star "reflections" could be counted as trillions of stars and how computerized slight-of-hand is fueling the fantasy of a 15 billion light year thick universe...and thus confirming Kabbalic Big Bangism. We can start by taking a look at a few examples of "Water Crystals":

The first row of enhydro (water within) crystals can be found on pages 1 and 2 at this web site: http://www.kacha-stones.com/crystals_enhydros_himalayan.htm.

The second row of water crystals comes from the Adhikara Art Gallery and can be viewed at this web site: http://www.akhikara.com/pagine/water-6.htm (& 3.htm-8.htm).

There are hundreds of other such pictures on the net. Each one has a unique geometrical design, and each one is not ice, but nevertheless is water in solid form.

Obviously, the Designer behind such designs can do anything. (The argument that no such Designer exists is over: http://www.fixedearth.com/athiest.html & http://www.fixedearth.com/intelligent_design_pitfalls.htm When the Bible describes the structure of the universe as containing "waters above" the firmament, i.e., as something that exists at the furthermost extremity from the Earth (a Biblical 8 billion miles at most, not 15 billion light years! http://www.fixedearth.com/Size%20and%20Structure%20Part%20I.htm we are clearly talking Designer with a capital "D". And just as clearly, those "waters" could just as easily be crystalline as liquefied and still fit the Biblical description perfectly. Water is water, whether it be crystals, ice, or liquid! Indeed, as we proceed with some exceptional Scriptural references in Part III, we will see that water crystals supply the precise feature in the Biblical structure of the universe that allows it to have a radius of no more than one light day while simultaneously revealing how the Kabbala Kosmoligists can falsely claim 15 billion light years thickness and trillions of stars.

Before that, however, it behooves us to realize that Scripturally and logically--Big Bang mythology notwithstanding--there is an outer spherical shell or dome which covers and encases all material objects in the universe within itself. We recall the second reference in the Hebrew for "firmament" (#7554) given on page 8 in Part I.... That definition is: "...to expand by hammering; by implication, to overlay (with thin sheets of metal)...spread abroad (...into plates)."

It is plain that the connotation of the word "overlay" fits with the Hebrew connotations of the other relevant words in Genesis. More, it was established semantically and grammatically that the firmament is "against" but separate from the spherical integument encasing the universe. Notice now how the Hebrew connotations describe a global dome through the word "overlay": 1)"to lay or place (one thing) over or upon another. 2) "to cover [to place something over or upon], overspread [to spread or diffuse over], or surmount [to be on top of or above] with something...."

So far then, all that is directly overhead to everybody in any place on the Earth and at all times--insofar as the Biblical size and structure of the universe is concerned --progresses upward from the Earth in this order:

a) A space--with its atmosphere and various other components--between the earth’s surface and the Moon of about 1/4 million miles. This space constitutes the 1st heaven, i.e., the 1st part of the firmament;

b) Next is: The 2nd part of the heaven/firmament some alleged 3.670,000,000 miles thick containing the sun, moon, and planets with all their motions around a stationary Earth;

c) Next is: The 3rd part of the heaven/firmament--of no greater than equal thickness to the 2nd part (another 3,670,000,000 miles)--contains ALL of the stars. This starry realm of the 3rd heaven/firmament (the Stellatum) revolves around the Earth every 23 hours and 56 minutes as observed. (See Part IV http://www.fixedearth.com/Size_and_Structure%20Part%20IV.htm).

d) Next: Also in the 3rd part of the heaven/firmament is a Biblically described zone that is specifically located "above the stars" (Is. 14:13). The Bible describes this zone as being the temporary location of God’s Throne and all of His preparations for the eternal New Heavens and New Earth (Is. 65:17,18; 66:22; II Pet. 3: 10-13; John 14:2,3). This 3rd part of the heaven/firmament also revolves around the Earth, possibly--but not certainly or even probably--in synchronization with the stellatum (II Chron. 16:9). The Prophets Ezekiel and Daniel wrote of fiery "wheels within wheels" as we shall see. As we saw in Part I, there are Bible clues which enable us to make an almost wildly generous estimate of the thickness of this part of the 3rd heaven and still stay within a radius of one light day for the whole universe. Note:

(* Thickness of the 3rd Heaven: As noted in Part I, God says in Isaiah 66;22 --written in 712 BC--that He "will make new heavens and the new earth...." That project has been ongoing in the 3rd part of the heaven/firmament that is above the stars...to be completed on schedule (Rev. 3:12; 21:2) with no cost overruns. Some 741years after Isaiah’s message--in John 14:2--Jesus tells us of the work in progress: "In my Father’s house [the New Jerusalem on that New Earth: Rev. 213] are many mansions...I go to prepare a place for you...." (Q) How thick then does that part of the 3rd heaven which is God’s present dwelling place and which is "above" the stars, need to be? (A) Thick enough to accommodate the New Earth which, extrapolated from the size of the New Jerusalem on it (Rev. 21:16), will require a diameter of several million miles...still only a tiny fraction as thick as the 2nd heaven or the starry realm of the 3rd heaven. This is negligible in the overall thickness calculations. Certainly an allowance of a 660 million mile thick "construction site" is at least ten times too generous-- as noted in this breakdown (http://www.fixedearth.com/Size%20and%20Structure%20Part%20I.htm p. 15.)

e) Next and last: A global dome encases all that is in the universe. Its under surface is covered (or strategically embedded) with highly reflective water crystals (sample of shapes on p. 2). Obviously, such incredible designs are capable of sending innumerable scattered reflections...accompanied by a full range of spectrum colors for our Redshift Theorists to play with and continue to expand their Expanding Universe fantasy. Reflections from multi-angled facets of these precisely embedded crystals off of a comprehensible number of actual stars are sent to locations of non-luminous entities (e.g., our moon without the sun, asteroids, nebulae). There in the blackness of space where many are retro-reflected off of the crystalline dome and are seen or captured by spectrographic technology and are yet other innumerable reflections that are being counted as actual dim stars or "night lights" behind nebulae, etc. The thickness of this global "dome" overlaying the present universe is vaguely suggested in the Hebrew connotation of "firmament" (#7554) that we just saw, viz., "...to expand by hammering, by implication, to overlay (with thin sheets of metal)...spread abroad (...into plates)...." So, how thick?? "Hammering" and "thin sheets" suggest not thick at all...perhaps measurable in inches or a cubit or two.... Who knows? Whatever it is, it is certainly not a figure that plays any substantive role whatever in the overall thickness of the Biblical Universe.

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As you will have noticed in those photos of "water crystals", they come in every shape imaginable from plain flat surfaces to the most ornate jewel-like patterns. The one characteristic they all have, however, is that they are all highly reflective. The crystals in the pictures are quite small. But, obviously, given that the interior surface of the dome encapsulating even our Biblically "small" universe would cover trillions of square miles, they are probably huge by present standards. (When it is recalled that the size of the Biblical God can vary from human size (Heb. 1:3) to one where God "measured out the waters of the earth in the hollow of his hand and meted out the heaven with a span, and comprehended the dust of the earth in a measure and weighed the mountains in scales and the hills in a balance (Isaiah 40:12)...the huge crystals required for the function they have in this part of the structure of our universe are not hard to conceptualize....)

In order for these crystals to either cover that total surface or a good percentage of it with precisely designed embedments which would complete the Biblically specified and optically supported design, some of the "water crystals above" would likely be as big as the Indian Ocean, while others areas could be quite small. (Since the Biblical "waters below" do not cover the total surface of the Earth, the "waters above" could--but very well may not--cover the total underside of the encasing dome.. I lean toward the view that they do not cover it totally, but that God has set the variegated water crystals in various locations and postures to produce all of the effects that are actually known. How about a supernova here and there? Think of the flash of mirrored sunlight on a certain spot, or that blinding reflection from the sun shinning on the rear window of the car in front of you...or even the intense sparkle from a certain facet in a diamond ring.... This is easy stuff for the God of all creation! (The spectrums which allow all the redshift speculations and other technology-produced simulations of clusters, spiral shapes, nebulas, supernovas, etc., which are now automatically fit into today's Cosmological Paradigm of a universe that is 15 billion light years thick, can more sensibly be fit into the Biblical Paradigm of a universe that is less than 8 billion miles thick.). {...Go here http://www.fixedearth.com/nasas_hanky-panky.htm to get an idea of how easily tech fraud can contribute to the furtherance of this Kabbalist Paradigm with the placement of many-sided mirrors of various shapes in the computerized telescopes that are configured in some pretty remarkable ways... ostensibly just to report what’s out there!}

Anyway, the point is that each water crystal--regardless of size and shape--has been set jewel-like in "hammered" bezels on the underside of the global encasement with a supernatural precision that makes the finest 21 jewel Swiss watch of old about as sophisticated as a mud pie. Thus affixed and perfectly arranged these crystals reflect the light from whatever number of real stars there are. That real number of stars is multiplied (and even magnified) and scattered reflectively with all of the spectral array that is precisely positioned and timed to produce the number and specific locations of individual points of light and all other deep space phenomena that is actually known to exist.

These are the points of light that astronomers can actually distinguish without resorting to easily manipulated computer-programmed imaging produced by Simulation Artists. These folks are marinated in what they think is a "scientific" paradigm which demands an evolutionary concept of the Origin of everything stretched over 15 billion years. To a man/woman--unless they are knowledgeable Kabbalists--these "space scientists" worldwide have accepted and are unwitting evangelists for that Pharisaic Religion’s "Creation Scenario". Consciously or not, they are promoting the atheist or agnostic religious philosophies held by the noted Rabbinical (Rebbes) Kabbalists of the past and present. (It is time for the honest ones to start thinking about spilling the beans concerning the factless high-tech fraud of which they have personal knowledge or suspicions...)

Consequentially, all extrapolations and guesstaments beyond the number of points of light being called stars that are in excess of what can actually be seen and known are--as with other cosmological fantasies--just assumptions resting upon other assumptions which are "certified" by all manner of ultraviolet photon hypotheses and redshift wave-theory voodooism (Part VI: http://www.fixedearth.com/Size%20and%20Structure%20Part%20VI.htm). The Biblically Small Universe declares all such extrapolations to be false, unnecessary, and confusing deceptions. These deceptions serve only two purposes, viz., 1) To validate Kabbalic Kreationism and all that is built on it; 2) To simultaneously discredit the Biblical creation scenario and all that is built upon it. Again, this is a battle between the religion of Talmud/Kabbalism and the religion of the Bible and the kind of g-d/God each projects. Pseudo-science supports the former and true science the latter....

With those thoughts in mind, those interested will want to examine some other astonishingly pertinent Scriptures which fit the Biblically described structure of the universe seen thus far. As far as I can tell, the application of these Scriptures to an understanding of the size and structure of the universe has not been made before now, as is evident by their absence in the Models of the universe proposed by Medieval Churchman.

Nevertheless--considering that not even a telescope was available--those earth-centered models with a "stellatum" containing all of stars diurnally revolving around the earth as in the Ptolemaic Model--were not that far off the true mark! The errors that were built into those models because of technological deficiencies were quite small really. For example, the planets Uranus, Neptune, and "Pluto" had not been discovered and were not included in the model and thus the starry zone called the stellatum began after Saturn, rather than after Pluto.

Since our books assure us that it is some 2, 825,000,000 miles from Saturn to Pluto, we add that distance to the distance from Earth to Saturn and get the end point of the Biblical 2nd heaven. That end point is also the beginning point of the 3rd heaven, i.e., the stellatum containing all the stars plus the Biblically specified zone of God’s operations "above" those stars. The thickness of this star-filled 3rd heaven of the Biblical firmament is finite and is more than adequately accommodated by the thickness assigned to it with the explanation given earlier..

Beyond the starry realm (stellatum), the Medieval Church also postulated a zone that was called the "Primum Mobile". This was a region which "carried no luminous bodies and was invisible to the human eye" (www.lancs.ac.uk. p.4). Then: "In Christian Cosmology, the answer to the question of what lay ‘beyond’ the Primum Mobile was: God. It was the heaven ‘beyond’ all the other heavens, or ‘the very heaven’...."(Ibid.)

Again, this was not far off the mark considering the times and even all that is actually known today! If it had been realized that the 3rd heaven where God’s Throne--and hence God--is located according to Scripture (II Cor. 12:2), then God wouldn’t have been placed beyond the "Waters Above" and the door wouldn’t have been closed on the search for and discovery of other Scriptures which would complete an understanding of the size and structure of the universe that no true knowledge of the heavens denies today.

As we are seeing, those mis-applied and underappreciated Scriptures plainly put God and all His operations in a revolving 3rd Heaven just beyond the starry realm (stellatum) and Biblically contiguous with the Scriptural "waters above". Furthermore, those Scriptures decree that those "waters above" be crystalline starlight reflectors embedded in the underside of a thin but substantive dome encasing our entire temporary universe (Isaiah 65:17;66:22; II Pet. 10-13; Rev. 21:1), and beyond which there is no created entity.

To most people today it will seem utterly ridiculous to even consider that a Biblical Model of a Small Universe with the Earth at the center could be the true state of affairs. Surely, we reason, it cannot be that four and a half centuries of progressively ignominious defeat of the Biblical Creation Scenario and its triumphant replacement by another "holy book’s creation scenario"--certified in all learning centers and hyped relentlessly in all the media by a Theoretical Science Establishment--has been a deception so grand in its scope and purpose as to rule out purely human plotting and conniving!!

Yet, the closer one studies what has happened, the more certain it becomes that the fruits of this massive deception provide all the evidence that is needed to identify the perpetrator. As it is beyond argument that what people believe about the Origin of the sun, moon, earth, stars, and themselves is foundational to all other beliefs and philosophies, it is equally beyond argument that the Kabbalic Kreation Model is diametrically opposed to--and hence the implacable enemy of--the Biblical (and Koranic) Creation Model.

Are the Talmudist/Kabbalists the sole perpetrators? Certainly not! Are they the primary perpetrators? Yes. They have been the initiators, the facilitators, the undercover perpetrators probably since their Babylonian Captivity. But the scheme is too focused on a single-minded goal over too many centuries not to have been derailed a thousand times by circumstances if it were not supernaturally conceived, directed, and promoted by a host of people (non-scientists and church leaders included), virtually all of whom have had no known allegiance to Talmudism/Kabbalism.

Nevertheless, of all the major religions, Pharisaic Judaism is the only one that--for the most part--has a priesthood that has no belief in either a personal God or a Satan-like adversary (http://www.fixedearth.com/kabbala%20III.htm p. 4 - http://www.fixedearth.com/kabbala%20IV.htm p.2, http://www.fixedearth.com/Sola%20Scriptura%20IV.htm). Consequently, unlike the ancient Hebrews, this kind of belief--this intellectual agnosticism--has provided no God-given supernatural support nor protection nor any defense for the Jewish people against a supernatural enemy. Neither--in their view--exists. Or, if g-d is allowed, he has no contact with mankind (a la Rambam Maimonides, Einstein, Sagan, et al), and Satan is just a bogeyman for retarded Christians and Moslems (New http://www.fixedearth.com/Sola%20Scriptura%20IV.htm). Yet, over the centuries there has been an unflagging resolve by the Talmutic/Kabbalic Rabbinate to mastermind a way to break the back of Bible Credibility and hence genuine Christianity, whereby a very personal and loving God and a very personal and vindictive Satan are central to the whole plan of God http://www.fixedearth.com/the_bible/satansales.html

Satan--the Bible teaches--is every man’s "...adversary who comes as a roaring lion seeking who he may devour" (I Pet 5:8). He has no truth in him (John 8:44). He is the "god of this world (II Cor. 4:4; Matt. 4:4). His ministers are very frequently in Christian pulpits preaching Christ (II Cor. 11:13-15). Also, "doctrines of devils" (aka Satan’s "demons", I Tim. 4:1) are allowed to mess up church doctrines...(and what a job they’ve done! http://www.fixedearth.com/the_bible/bibledoctrines.html & http://www.fixedearth.com/Sola%20Scriptura%20II.htm). Endeavoring to destroy the Plan of God revealed through Jesus is precisely the single-minded role which Satan is assigned in the Bible. Is it not way beyond coincidence that this same single-minded goal is also the leitmotif of Talmudic/ Kabbalic Pharisaic Rabbinism...the bane of Jews everywhere throughout their history from their Babylonian Captivity to this very hour?? "I will ascend above the stars of God [above the 3rd heaven]...I will be like the most High [God], Satan boasts (Isaiah. 14:13,14)." God replies: "Wanna Bet??! You will be a museum attraction that my flesh and blood redeemed children (Is. 66:24;Gal. 3:29;Rev. 22:15) will look at and study and comment with astonishment: ‘Is This the dude that caused all the trouble throughout history??!’" ( Isaiah 14:15,16; Ezek. 28:16-18) http://www.fixedearth.com/the_bible/satan.html & http://www.fixedearth.com/the_bible/satan.html).

Likewise, of all the major religions, Judaism is the only one that mocks and hates Jesus and His New Covenant with a deadly passion and claims that their spiritual leaders (Rabbis, Rebbes) are smarter than g-d (http://www.fixedearth.com/talmud.html p.4). These are those whose single-minded mission is the destruction of the Bible’s credibility from Creation to Jesus to Heaven. "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools..." (Rom. 1:22; Is.44:25). And that goes for all of us in the non-Jew masses who also have been deceived by the utterly insane Kabbalist "creation scenario" which tells us that a "cosmic egg" exploded 15 billion years ago and created all that exists.

But now the hour draws very close when the Biblical God of Creation--first revealed to the world by the Hebrew Moses--is going to restore sanity about the Origins and nature of all that exists and thereby set in motion the final scenes of the Last Act of God’s End Time Drama for this old Earth (http://www.fixedearth.com/the_bible/endtimedrama.html & http://www.fixedearth.com/the_bible/endtimedramasales.html). Compared to the factless fantasizing of Big Bang Kosmology founded upon and fueled by observation-denying assumptions from start to finish, the Bible’s Cosmology is a model of clarity, simplicity, and scientific realism. No "quarks", no "black holes", no "superstrings", no evolving Klingons and E. T’s swarming through the universe in space ships; no hidden occult religion disguised as science deceiving its devotees... who then, in turn, employ every device to deceive the rest of the world! In place of all that, we have an intelligible structure of our universe from the "waters below" to the crystalline "waters above", a structure which conforms to all that is actually known, a structure which was described in writing through men by the Almighty God Who can and will bring it all to pass as promised in His Infallible Word.

In preparation for this Scripturally guaranteed revolt that is to come against the madness of Kabbalist Kosmology (Rev. 17:14) (and all that is riding on that mountain of deception all the way back to Copernicus...and Pythagoras, Aristarchus, and Nachmonides et al before him!), let us move on to Part III. In those pages we will examine, relish, and apply still more Biblical descriptions of the size and structure of our "small" universe which is scheduled to be replaced with eternal and much larger New Heavens and New Earth....

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The Size and Structure of the Universe - According to the Bible and Non-Theoretical Science
Part III - Rare Scriptural Confirmation of the Role

Of Reflections in the Biblical Model of the Universe

As promised at the end of Part II, there are several more Scriptures that amplify and certify the conclusion that the Earth occupies the central location in a universe that is almost infinitely smaller than what we have all learned (over ten trillion times smaller!). Inside the 3rd heaven the stars are in a circular band which is rotating around the Earth every 23 hours and 56 minutes. During these nightly observed and ceaseless revolutions, every true and actual star is being reflected (repetitiously and with laser-like accuracy) countless times off of precisely situated water crystals embedded in the underside of a dome which encases the universe. It is these countless reflections that make up the theorized billions of galaxies with trillions of stars in a 15 billion light year thick universe claimed by mythematical Kabbalist sorcery to be scientific fact.

Psalm 147.4 is very interesting regarding these alleged zillions of galaxies and mega-zillions of stars that the Theoretical Science Establishment has palmed off on the world as factual entities complimenting first their "Steady State Paradigm" and more recently, their "Big Bang Paradigm". Those who believe the Scripture’s words from Parts I and II--and these now being added--to be from God Who Created and named the stars, will continue to see an altogether different explanation about the size and age of the universe from that explanation with which the world has been relentlessly bombarded. This "new" explanation dramatically reduces both the fictitious numbers of stars claimed by the Kabbala-Fulfilling, Evolution Manufacturing, Theoretical Science Establishment, and the equally fictitious distances from earth assigned to those stars. Those who doubt or reject God’s authorship of the words below, might want to keep them in mind anyway, and consider well what is going on with this revival of a Biblically structured universe based on a non-moving Earth (and the certification of Bible credibility on all subjects that will be the culmination of this revival).

Psalm 147:4

HE telleth the number of the stars;

HE calleth them ALL by their names.

"Telleth": #4447 means: "allot, prepare, set, count...". "Names": #8064 means: "...an appellation, as a mark or memorial of individuality: from #7760: through the idea of definite and conspicuous position...."

Comment: All of the meanings of "telleth" indicate a finite number. The use of "ALL" refers to the named ones and likewise tells us the number is finite. We are informed that each and every star has a name which God has given to it. Again, finiteness is assured, and some large but comprehensible number is implied.

(The acceptance of an infinite universe by the Creationist leadership at ICR and AIG has been a major roadblock thwarting a movement by Creationists to broaden their attack to include Copernicanism as another pseudo-scientific deception; one which demonstrably paved the way for the success of Darwinism and which is as plainly anti-Scriptural.

1: http://www.fixedearth.com/fininfinite.htm
2: http://www.fixedearth.com/geni15.htm
3: http://www.fixedearth.com/Hardball-stonewalling.htm

Deuteronomy 28:62

And you shall be left few in number,

whereas ye were as the stars for multitude....

"Multitude": #7230 - 7231: "...abundance in any respect...great number, plenty: #7231: to multiply by the myriads...ten thousands. #7241: a rain, as an accumulation of drops. #7233: many, million, ten thousand.

Comment: Note the flexibility in the meaning of this word "multitude" all the way from the comprehensible "great number and plenty, etc." to the incomprehensible "accumulation of rain drops". This flexibility of connotations of the Hebrew word for "Multitude" is obviously important relevant to determining whether the number of stars in the Biblical Universe is a comprehensible number or not.

For example, as seen above, "Multitude" is specifically compared to the population of the Hebrew Tribes at a time before this was written (Deut. 28:62). That number is generally considered to have been between two and three million people, a large number in one sense, but certainly neither incomprehensible nor even necessarily a large number where counting stars is concerned. But, note again the inherent connotational flexibility in this word for "multitude" which is evidenced in these other citations: Judges 6:5; 7:12: "plague of grasshoppers" & I Sam. 13:5: "sand of the sea".... These--much as "raindrops" in Deut.28:62 (#7241) --describe incomprehensible numbers. Yet, the very same word for "multitude" refers to these easily comprehended numbers: Ex.: "words": Job 32:7; 35:9*** "thoughts": Ps. 94:19*** "words, counselors, people, rubies, dreams": Prov. 10:19, etc.*** "chariots, sorceries": Is. 37:24; 47:9 *** "iniquities": Jer. 30:14,15*** "idols, branches, wares": Ezek.14:4; 19:11; 27:18 *** "7 weeks": Deut. 16:9, etc.

So--insofar as Bible teaching is concerned--is there a comprehensible number of stars in the 3rd heaven stellatum or is the number incomprehensible as the "science" books tell us??

Being reminded that we are here continuing to seek exclusively the Bible’s teaching about the stars, let’s examine some more clues that relate to and amplify the findings we’ve just seen as well as those in Parts I and II and then apply what we come up with to that Biblical Model....

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Notice, for example, these further clues...clues from the oftentimes super-abstract book of Ezekiel:

Ezekiel 1:22

And the likeness of the firmament upon the heads

of the living creatures was as the color of

the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their heads above.

Note "likeness", #1823 from #1819": "...resemblance, model, like, similitude. #1819: a primary root. To compare, resemble, liken...use similitudes." *** Biblical definitions for "Similitude" (#’s 1823, 8403, 8544) all match the dictionary definitions, viz., : likeness, resemblance, counterpart, match, semblance, image, copy. *** "terrible": "fearsome"...Amplified Bible renders it "awesome". *** "crystal": #7140 from #7139: "...ice, as if bald, smooth...by resemblance, rock crystal...crystal, frost, ice. *** #7139: "...a primary root: to depilate, make (self) bald.

Comment: All of these definitions refer not to the entity itself, i.e., not to the firmament, but rather to a likeness, a semblance, an image, i.e., A REFLECTION of entities within the firmament that are being "sent back" with a mirror-like, laser-directional scattering off of a smooth faceted water crystal extremity. These water crystals are attached/ embedded in the "hammered" underside of the dome-like encasement of the entire universe. This Biblically certified dome lies just beyond the outer edge of the 3rd heaven/firmament which is revolving beneath it. (Interestingly, the Amplified Bible renders the verse this way: "Over the head of the living creatures there was a likeness of a firmament, to look upon like the terrible and awesome dazzling of shining crystal or ice, stretched across the expanse of sky over their heads." I think one can see where Bible scholars with no axe to grind can begin to understand the authenticity of a "Small" Universe Model wherein star reflections off of "waters above the firmament" are being mistakenly counted as real stars...and how this misconception is upholding Big Bang, Expanding Universe cosmology...and all evolutionary mythology.)

These reflections/likenesses are stretched forth "over the heads" of the living creatures residing in the last reaches of the third heaven part of the firmament. As seen in Part I, the Bible specifically refers to some kind of watery shell-like, dome-like reflective entity above the firmament (Gen. 1:6,7). This "watery", spherical "ceiling" of probable rock-crystal-pure transparency and reflectability--and piezo-electrical capabilities on its smooth symmetrical and asymmetrical faces--totally surrounds and encases the universe. That is to say, this spherical "ceiling" encases the three layers of the firmament which extend inward from God’s heavenly abode to the stars, to the sun and the planets, the Earth’s Moon, on through the Earth’s atmosphere, and finally to the Earth itself at the center of the Created Universe.

In this Scriptural model it is axiomatic that the stars are "imaged, copied, modeled, etc." from their fixed locations relevant to one another in their perpetually revolving 3rd heaven/firmament Ezekielian "wheel". Also, the light they emit is marvelously synchronized with specified facets of water crystals on the revolving universe-encasing dome to be REFLECTED back toward Earth. This is accomplished in a way that keeps the stars (and their reflections) always precisely in the place where they have always been...(just as the lights on revolving ballroom mirrors always present the same pattern and always follow the same paths...and as is reminiscent also in some respects of star projections in a planetarium.)

Hence, while modern cosmology assures us that the universe is populated by mega-zillions of stars that are billions of light years distant from the Earth, the Bible instead assures us that there are a very few million at the most and they are not one ten-trillionth as far away as we are told. The "likenesses" of this limited number of named stars are then being "imaged" and "reflected" billions of times off of the mirror-like facets in the crystalline outer dome as it revolves synchronously with the starry stellatum in the lower part of the 3rd heaven. It is these reflections that are being counted--along with the real stars--as individual stars and clusters of stars in those unseen hypothesized galaxy simulations.

Think again of the just mentioned mirrored globes hanging and turning in "ballrooms" and old night clubs. These were/are mirrors that consistently and precisely reflect whatever light is shone on them like little stars moving around in a complete circle in a darkened room. Now to envision a Biblical Model of the universe, simply have the mirrors on the inside of the globe (concavo-convex) turning around the Earth at the center (inside).

The mirrored encasement is the watery crystal-embedded "dome or shell" around the universe. The 3rd heaven with the stars is an Ezekialian "fiery wheel within a wheel " (Ezek. 10:10) that moves around the Earth every 23 hours and 56 minutes as always observed. That same "wheel" may include that part of the 3rd Heaven where God’s Throne in the New Jerusalem on the New Earth is located "above" the stars. But Scripturally, unless I am missing something, that God-occupied zone--though it also revolves (or is capable of turning) around the Earth (e.g., II Chron. 16:9), at an unspecified--and quite possibly variably regulated and even sometimes synchronized--time frame, is not forced to be in synchronous movement with the stellatum, but could be another one of the Ezekielian "fiery wheels within a wheel" (Ezek. 10:10).

This Biblical model gives an intelligible, observationally corroborated, and scientifically sound understanding of what is really going on in our Earth-centered universe. Given God’s ineffably wondrous and meticulous attention to design detail (as can be appreciated even in the supernaturally-incredible arithmetic detail in the language configurations in His Word: http://www.fixedearth.com/Panin.htm or a fruit-fly: http://www.fixedearth.com/THIRTY-SIX%20BRISTLES.htm), this model of the universe--with its crystalline facets precisely fixed to cast myriads of reflections of stars--is a marvel of simplicity to grasp in comparison to a model which attributes such precision (and everything else) to an explosion of a "substanceless substance" 15 billion years ago. Combine this comparatively simple, scientifically supportable, and radically more intelligible and sensible model with the Bible’s repeated descriptions of a non-moving Earth http://www.fixedearth.com/sixty-seven%20references.htm as the foundation upon which the entire Scriptural Model has been conceived and created, and we can see that God has given us the true design of the structure of the universe. We just had to begin to open our eyes as to the true nature of the spiritual battle that has been characterized to the world as a battle between altruistic secular science and Bible fairy tales. And we’re only about thigh-deep in the evidence at this point! There is plenty more to come, and it will pin that "fairy tale" label where it belongs, i.e., on the Theoretical Science Establishment, before we are through!

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Also, in this Biblical Model of the Universe, the tens or hundreds of thousands--or possibly few million--actual, named stars are confined to the 3rd zone in the firmament, which needs to be no thicker than the 2nd zone with the sun, moon, and planets, as we saw in Part I. Indeed, this Biblical universe in its entirety--from Earth to the domed "ceiling" (less than 8 billion miles)--will be destroyed and never seen again (II Pet. 3:10-12; Rev.20:11; etc.) to make way for the Biblically promised New Heavens and New Earth (Isaiah 66:22; 65:17; Rev. 21:1;etc. See HERE http://www.fixedearth.com/newrenew.htm also). This temporary universe was designed on a scale to fit that temporal reality, and there was no need whatever for it to be created anywhere near the size promoted, nay, evangelized by the Kabblist inspired Big Bang, Expanding Universe Conglomerate.

Judging by the dimensions given for the New Jerusalem on the New Earth--obviously meant to be taken literally (otherwise why bother?)--we underscore again the highest Scriptural probability that the scale of the Scripturally promised New Universe with the New Earth at its center (just as with this first Earth)--will be vastly larger (Part I http://www.fixedearth.com/Size%20and%20Structure%20Part%20I.htm p. 11). The Biblical New Heavens and New Earth--unlike the present design--will actually need to be vastly larger because there will be flesh and blood families eternally reproducing new offspring (Is. 11:6,8: 65:17:23)...though on a greatly slowed conception cycle (Gen. 3:16). False doctrines have so thoroughly twisted the Scriptures about the nature of Heaven with its flesh and bone people (Is. 65:18,19’ 66:23,24; Luke 24:36-43) that one has to take those doctrines apart piece by piece and force them to conform to precept upon precept, line upon line (Is. 28) until the truth emerges. You can see how this Biblically endorsed approach to doctrinal purity relevant to the size and structure of the universe impacts on the families in heaven issue (Is. 11:6,8; 65:21,23) when you get a grip on Jesus’ introduction to His teaching concerning marriage http://www.fixedearth.com/the_bible/heavensales.html & http://www.fixedearth.com/the_bible/endtimedramasales.html ...

This is just one of many key teachings that is completely ignored and one which absolutely turns around the "no marriage, nor giving in marriage" verse parroted from pulpits. The point being that with growing families on the eternal New Earth-- even with greatly slowed conception (Gen. 3: 16)--not only will that New Jerusalem and New Earth need to be humungous in size, but, rest assured, there will be other earth-like bodies in those New Heavens to handle the population growth millions and billions of years into eternity. Present cosmological fantasies about finding evolved life on other planets is just another cheap counterfeit of what God has in store for those who are raised (I. Thess. 4:13-18) or resurrected to eternal life (Jn. 5:28,29 - http://www.fixedearth.com/Heaven,%20Chr.only.htm & http://www.fixedearth.com/the_bible/Judgement%20Sales.html

Whereas all who desire Truth in all matters can confidently trust the Bible with its scores of documented prophecy fulfillments, its 2000 year old description of modern day technology, its equally old description of a Global Government now staring us in the face, the mind-blowing mathematical evidence for the inspiration of the Scriptures http://www.fixedearth.com/Panin.htm etc., it becomes surpassingly obvious that the Author of this Book can be trusted when He gives us the structure and size of the universe! More, it should become equally obvious that another model from another religious source which hates and blasphemes the Biblical God and His Son Jesus (and mocks the Bible while upholding the g-d of the Talmud/Kabbala) is a source with a spiritual motive to use "science falsely so called" and every academic and media backup it can control in any way it can to achieve what God has allowed it to achieve (Acts 15:18).

When all the hype from NASAdom is put aside, modern theoretical cosmology does not have the first piece of indisputable evidence to support its crazy declaration that an explosion of an infinitesimal "substanceless substance" 15 billion years ago created all that is. It’s "creation scenario" is an expensive, tax-funded mandate to establish evolutionism in space and on Earth through the media and "education". This fundamentally religious deception has been made possible by the acceptance of the pseudo-scientific, assumption-anchored, Copernican Mythology which is wedded to the Darwinian Mythology, now evolving rapidly into Panspermia Mythology http://www.fixedearth.com/theoretical%20sci.Part%20I.htm This symbiotic union of false physical science with false biological science has produced these and several other offspring: (Marxism, Freudianism, Dewyism, Einsteinism, Saganism...). Taken together, the teachings from this Bible-denying brood of "thinkers" now constitutes the entire woof and warp of modern man’s allegedly secular "knowledge" http://www.fixedearth.com/knowledge%20impact.htm

Now consider more of the extraordinary Biblical support for the size and structure of the real universe, made "small" by the dazzling water crystal studded "astrodome" precisely scattering myriads of reflections back toward the star zone and the non-luminous bodies and "dark matter" below it:

Ezekiel 1:23, 25,26 & 10:1

"...and under the firmament were their wings straight...." (v.23)

"And there was a voice (v.24) from the firmament

that was over their heads...." (v.25)

"And above the firmament was the likeness [resemblance, model]

of a throne, as the appearance of a man above upon it". (v.26)

"Then I looked, and behold, in the firmament that was above the head

of the cherubims there appeared over them as it were a sapphire stone, as the

appearance and likeness of a throne." (Ez. 10:1)

Comment: All of these references are describing certain things taking place in the 3rd firmament where God dwells with Jesus and the angels. Just like the stars beneath that dwelling place in the 3rd firmament, there is a "likeness", a match, a counterpart, an image, a similitude of those creatures and objects, and also the likeness of a man upon a throne, all of which are being REFLECTED in the crystal-embedded "waters above the firmament".

More clues leading to the same conclusion pop up in other Scriptural passages such as this one:

Daniel 12:3

"And they [the resurrected dead] that be wise [teachers]

shall shine as the brightness of the firmament;

and they that turn many to righteousness [shall shine]

as the stars for ever and ever."

Note: "Shine", #2094 means: "A primary root; to gleam; fig. to enlighten...shine, teach, give warning." "Brightness", #2096, comes from #2094 and means "brilliancy". Since the root word for both is "Gleam", and since there is no Hebrew word given for "gleam", we will lean on definitions from Webster’s Dictionary and Roget’s Thesaurus:

Webster gives these related connotations for "gleam": 1) A flash or beam of light. 2) A dim or subdued light.... 4) To send forth a gleam or gleams - Akin to "brightness"; See: glimmer, glimpse. Syn. 1. Gleam, Glimmer, Beam, Ray, are terms for a stream of light....(a paragraph of delineations follows...all of which fit starlight characteristics).

Roget: "Gleam" noun: 1) light...radiation, irradiation, emanation shine, starlight. 3) ray, beam, etc. 4) flash, blaze, glint....

Roget: "Gleam" verb: 17) shine, shine forth, give light, fulgurate (to flash or dart like lightning) ["Electric Universe" fans take note: HERE http://www.fixedearth.com/electric.html ])....

Comment: The stars in this allegory about heavenly rewards are resident in the eternal ("for ever and ever") New Heavens (Is. 66:22; Rev. 21:1; etc), of course. Yet, the "shine" and "gleam" connotations referring to the "brightness of the firmament" could refer to either the present firmament or the one in the New Heavens.

The New Heavens will probably be structured similarly to the present heavens...with the one significant difference mentioned earlier, namely: We know from the Scriptures that for sure and certain one key aspect of the structure of the New Heavens will be different, namely, the place of God’s abode. Whereas His temporary abode is plainly described as being located at the furthermost (highest) extremity of the Third Heaven in the firmament--which abode is what is plainly represented as being reflected mirror-like two Scriptures back--it is equally clear that His eternal abode will be on the New Earth (Rev. 21:3) in its "New Jerusalem" (with its 1,440,000,000,000 acre floor plan) which "comes down" (Rev. 21:2) from that Third Heaven wherein The Lord Jesus has created "mansions/town houses" in that New Jerusalem for all of redeemed mankind (John 14:2,3). (For Scripture endorsed farm and family life outside the City of New Jerusalem, consider: Is. 65:21-23; 11:6,8; Rev. 21:25-27...also: http://www.fixedearth.com/dayheaven.htm & http://www.fixedearth.com/the_bible/heavensales.html

(Does the New Jerusalem on the eternal New Earth that "comes down" quit coming down when it reaches the center of the New Heavens? Of course it does! If it didn’t, it would be going "up" again and have to come back "down", wouldn’t it?! The "center" is "down" to everything else, isn’t it? Does it remain there as the hub of the New Universe just as this temporary Old Earth has been the hub of this Old Universe? It’s logical, and there is no Scriptural or "mechanical" reason to conclude otherwise.)

Thus, Scripturally, the picture that continues to emerge of the present universe is one which declares that there is a comprehensible, intelligible number of stars being imaged and reflected almost endlessly but very precisely off of both multi-faceted and also great smooth mirroring crystals (such as mirror God’s Throne area) which are set in the underside of a canopy covering the universe just beyond the outer limit of the firmament.

The double error of modern cosmology lies in interpreting these reflections as zillions of galaxies and stars, and then extrapolating from that interpretation an incomprehensibly large and old universe because of the first error. The Apostle Paul recorded God’s timeless warning about:

...avoiding profane and vain babblings,

and oppositions of science falsely so called:

Which some professing have erred

concerning the faith....

(I Timothy 6:20,21)

Go to Part IV entitled: "Star Trails: A Picture Is Worth A Thousand Words" - http://www.fixedearth.com/Size_and_Structure%20Part%20IV.htm - (after 10/1/03)

Part V: "Fraud At Work In The Measurement Of Distances In Space" - http://www.fixedearth.com/Size%20&%20Structure%20Part%20V.htm - also after 10/1/03))

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