Truth Movement Australia Website Hosted By Adam Davis

TRUTH MOVEMENT AUSTRALIA WEBSITE
TAKEN DOWN BY ADAM DAVIS
27TH MAY 2010

6th June 2010

.............................. @hotmail.com wrote:

J M sent a message using the contact form at http://loveforlife.com.au/contact.

Hi,
I was just wondering about the --truth movement au-- forums-- ( http://truthmovementaustralia.com.au ) I have not been able to access them for weeks now and did also get a message that they had been stopped till further notice when I have tried to access and also most of the time I get a 404 error. I was wondering if there has been a problem with accessing the site or is it me?

Thanks

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6th June 2010

Hi J M
Adam Davis took it ( http://truthmovementaustralia.com.au ) down because of this:

Jerry & Joe Kane - Father & Son Killed In West Memphis By Police For Protecting Their Property - Media Twists Abound
http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/05/26/jerry-joe-kane-father-son-kil...

Message from Adam Davis to us is below.

See other posts like these one: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/05/27/adelaide-doomsday-cult-media-... and http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/05/21/we-will-lead-every-revolution...

All the best
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

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27th May 2010 3:02 PM

Adam Davis sent a message using the contact form at http://loveforlife.com.au/contact.

Hi Arthur,
With the recent assassination of redemption members in the US I am doing my best to step away from anyone who is using this information. Because of this I would like to kindly ask that you remove my interview with Thomas Anderson from your website.

I got involved in the straw man research when I was still new to things, and although I completely agree with the right of every man to be free, I have to think about my family now, and am backing away from this kind of material completely. I hope you respect and understand my reasoning.

You are a good person and I sincerely wish you the best on your journey towards the truth.

regards,

Adam Davis

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OUR MISSION

Our mission is simple - to offer as much relevant information on Local, National, International and even Universal knowledge for you to research for yourself - and decide what the truth is for you. As well as offering a safe haven for people to express their views and meet up with other members in your area.

Click Here For The Truth Movement Australia Website

About Truth Movement Australia

-excerpt taken from first post on the TMA website-

Dear Truth Seekers,

It is my absolute pleasure to announce that Truth Seekers in Australia now have a place to learn, discuss, grow and connect.

Q: What is a Truth Seeker, how do I know if this site if for me?

* Do you find that you question ‘the truth’ that is told to you by the media, politicians and other so called ‘experts’ in their field?
* Have you got an interest in learning information which is outside the realm of what is known as ‘common knowledge’?
* Are you seeking to find yourself, who you really are and why you are really here?

If you answered yes to any of these questions then this site is for you.

I want to take the time in this very first post on TMA to discuss with you what my vision for this website, and this movement, is.

Our understanding of the world is that you, as the individual are a co-creator of the reality which we see all around us… and it is YOU that needs to become fully aware in your thoughts feeling and actions of the truth that lies within you.

Our mission is simple - to offer as much relevant information on Local, National, International and even Universal knowledge for you to research for yourself - and decide what the truth is for you. As well as offering a safe haven for people to express their views and meet up with other members in your area.

TMA IS NOT ABOUT CONVERTING PEOPLE to a particular view point or belief system, we are not hear to prove to people that 911 was an inside job, that Atlantis was real or that chemtrails are in the sky… these things may very well be true, however it is for you to decide through your own research, we will simply offer you the tools to begin to question and find the truth within.

We are about seeking the truth, not telling you the truth.

Fox News is known for offering up a rather interesting catch phrase ‘We Report, You Decide’, however reporting on something doesn’t necessarily mean that it is what is being reported on is true.

So on this website ‘We Suggest, You Decide”.

Sign up to the newsletter and join the movement now, and let’s learn and grow together.

Yours with the utmost respect and sincerity

Adam Davis

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Link to this website: http://www.truthmovementaustralia.com.au

The Cristian Family November 2006

Adam Davis Being Knighted


Links (full copy of each thread provided below)

1: Adam Davis Being Knighted - Copy Of Forum Post Taken From TMA: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/09/05/13/new-world-order-conversation-...

2: Anyone Up On Their Knights Hospitaller 'Conspiracies'?: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/09/05/13/new-world-order-conversation-...

3: Leader of Truth Movement Australia being Knighted: https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=77343

4: Time To Take My Leave - A Post From Adam Davis In The TMA Forum: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/09/05/13/new-world-order-conversation-...

Time To Take My Leave: http://www.truthmovementaustralia.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1906

Adam Davis Being Knighted: http://www.truthmovementaustralia.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1879

Adam Davis Being Knighted
Copy Of Forum Post Taken From TMA

Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/09/05/13/new-world-order-conversation-...

Adam Davis Being Knighted - Copy Of Forum Post Taken From TMA Website:
http://www.truthmovementaustralia.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1879

Adam Davis Being Knighted

Postby nwoexposer » Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:21 pm

Interestingly I was shown these pictures of Adam Davis being Knighted in 2007 on Facebook. Adam quotes

"In 2007 I was initiated into the School.

"To serve, as our lords, the sick and the poor"."

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=73638&id=723305567

nwoexposer
Truth Seeker

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Re: Adam Davis being Knighted

Postby Ree » Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:02 pm

Okaaaaaaaaayy!!!!! :shock: :shock:

What's goin on???

Is this for real ADAM??

Ree
Condemnation without investigation is the highest form of ignorance

Ree

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Postby gavinj » Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:20 pm
Wow, complete with a knights of malta cross on the gettup. Adam, are you a live roleplaying game nerd?
I have come to chew buggle gum and kick arse, and im all out of bubblegum

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gavinj

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Postby Andy » Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:41 pm
Gav I think you will find it is a Knights Hospitaller robe...I know thats a fine point....Hmmm begs questions :roll:
Lets, let Adam address this unless others have more info than the 3 photos.
Andy



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Postby Reunite » Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:46 am
I'm most curious about the pictures hanging up on the wall in the background, lets wait to see what Adam has to say first.

I knew Adam was into internet marketing but not to how sucessful he is to the point of screaming girls asking for his autograph and over 500 clients in 4 countries.

He has a Traffic Intensive seminar on Saturday 23 and Sunday 24 August 2008 on the Gold Coast

Adam Davis, The AdWords Guy

Few people, at 21, have travelled the world as a sought-after speaker, had girls screaming for autographs and been recognised as an international expert on a topic that is one of the most talked about subjects in the marketing world.

Not to mention run their own marketing firm with several employees that consult with multi-million dollar companies which are managed by people twice their age and discussing with them how best to increase their profits - using the power of the internet. Yet this is precisely what Adam Davis does.

Based in Perth, Australia, Adam specialises in driving massive amounts of qualified traffic to a website using Google AdWords, and has a track record of success in managing campaigns for businesses large and small and bringing better leads, higher conversions and more profits. Some of Adam's customers have even gone so far as to say he works miracles... of the business kind!

Adam will not only show you the insider tips and secrets to run a successful Google AdWords campaign, but he'll reveal how you can drive hundreds of visitors to your site within just a few hours. And better yet, you can have an international expert in Google AdWords personally run your campaign if you wish. Or you can learn to do it yourself with Adam's valuable home study course that is an international bestseller!

With Adam, you'll be able to turn your website from an expensive white elephant to a moneymaking monster! You will be astounded at how this young man can transform your online business!

http://www.inspirationalevents.com.au/31.html

Adam Davis is an internet entrepreneur who’s knowledge and experience transcends his chosen profession.

He was born in 1986 and grew up in the most isolated city in the world – Perth, Western Australia.

Adam Davis Reading books like Rich Dad, Poor Dad and Think and Grow Rich from the age of 12, Adam’s passion has always revolved around personal development. As he grew older, he became fascinated with personality profiling and how it could assist people in understanding themselves and the world around them.

Adam Davis at 17, summoned up the courage to follow his passion and was led on a path that saw him learn from some of the masters in online marketing. Then with extensive knowledge of the ins and outs of Internet Marketing, Adam launched an Internet consulting business, in 2005 when he was just 18, going by the alias of ‘The PPC Kid’. His business rapidly expanded and in a short space of time he was managing many Google AdWords accounts for not only his own websites, but also consulted with some highly respected individuals, like Jay Abraham, Stephen Pierce, Matt Bacak, Jack Canfield and Brett Mcfall.

Adam’s areas of expertise drive increased traffic to websites; converting this traffic into sales and use effective follow-up methods to keep visitors returning to your business such as through press releases.

At the age of 20, Adam has grown his consultancy business into one of the most recognised traffic generation consulting services in the world, with over 500 clients in four countries. He has spoken in front of crowds of over 1,500 people in Singapore, Australia, the UK, Indonesia and Malaysia on how to effectively send traffic to any website and make a profit, even if the site is only a day old. So for traffic generation, it has to be Adam Davis.

http://www.createthelifeclub.com/cp/Adam-Davis

Reunite

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Postby unmovable_2 » Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:54 pm
Hahahahaha.......

I think we may have all been taken on a little information collation ride here, if this is true.

Adam "servant of the Pope" Davis?

Knight of Malta and therefore SLAVE of the Jesuits!!!!!!!

"To serve, as our lords, the sick and the poor".........He either KNOWS he is serving the Farnese' or he is a profane pion who enjoys his servitude......

I would hope he is a honest and forthright man.

Let us hope he rebukes these charges.

Unmovable
"The Church cannot be held responsible for the guilt of its members"
Pope John Paul II

unmovable_2

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Postby mr_anderson » Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:33 pm

Uh-oh

This came out of left field! :|

I await for more information..

Did he upload those pics on purpose to create controversy or has nooooo idea on what that robe represents.

mr_anderson

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Postby gavinj » Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:02 pm
I thought that the Knights Hospitaller where blood thirsty butchers from the crusades who hid under the guise of providing medical care. Why are marketing professionals 1400 years later donning these robes and playing with pointy bits of metal. He really looks like one of those guys you see running around melbourne uni high school football oval dressed up as knights or orcs or something, ehehe. On the other hand, the black robe also looks a little like something from the bohemian grove video.

I have come to chew buggle gum and kick arse, and im all out of bubblegum

gavinj

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Postby trajectory » Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:21 pm

trajectory

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Postby unmovable_2 » Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:36 pm
gavinj ,

I thought that the Knights Hospitalet where blood thirsty butchers from the crusades who hid under the guise of providing medical care. Why are marketing professionals 1400 years later donning these robes and playing with pointy bits of metal.

The Knights, of all Romish branches, are the Knights of Malta. Be they Hospitalers, Garter, St. Gregory or Templar, they are united by the Roman Knights of Malta with their 8-pointed star.

The Knights are the great merchants of Babylon. The great commerce machine for the Roman powerhouse.

That’s why men like Knight of Malta J Peter Grace who ran and owned Time Life was used to cover up the Kennedy assassination.

That’s why men like Knight of St Gregory Rupert Murdoch run that Fascist Network, Fox.

Or men like Knight of Malta Bill Gates run Microsoft.

Or Lee Ioacoca who ran Ford during Kennedy's administration, he being a loyal Knight of Malta was used to clean up the assassination car so as to leave NO EVIDENCE......

I could go on and on…… This club isn’t exclusive to powerful men of commerce and commercial profit, but they do dominate it.

Adam needs to answer to this charge…..

Will he spin it off into a minor initiation like Dr Ken Horwitz did after he was knighted?

Unmovable

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Postby gavinj » Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:03 pm


Have chuck and adam ever been seen in the same room, oh dear, is adam an unwitting cia operative protected by a hot australian model whos good with swords?

I have come to chew buggle gum and kick arse, and im all out of bubblegum

gavinj

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Postby Guan Thwei » Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:57 pm
Errr so what if he is a Knight?

"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."

David Rockefeller

Guan Thwei

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Postby Love For Life » Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:16 pm

It appears Adams conscience has got the better of him and this is his way of destroying what he has created so he can opt out. In Adams case & circumstance when an initiates conscience kicks in he finds himself trapped in an evil shadow-world spider web surrounded by ferocious venomous spiders. How to get out...... self-destruct and fade away and hope you are left alone to live your life. He is between a rock and a hard place. I feel Adam has a good heart but has been seriously lied too over and over again (and he realises this --- who to trust) by those who influenced his thinking (for years) leading up to the launch of this freedom-truth website.

I don't think this publishing of photos is a prank because its not his style and he will quickly lose respect and trust of those who trusted him. I wish you all the best Adam in everything you do and that you one-day find the courage to join with Fiona and I (and others) in co-creating Kindom. Its possible that the long chat we had between us back in January 2009 and the encouragement provided to read all 9 of the Ringing Cedars books contributed to these recent actions by Adam.

I wrote to Thomas Anderson about Adam Davis 21/01/2009 3:31 AM
See below
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
http://www.loveforlife.com.au
action & loveforlife.com.au

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21/01/2009 3:31 AM

Apologies about this lengthy email but everything needs to be explained to get across to you the message that you are in PRESENT DANGER of being harmed BIG-TIME.

Private discussion.

I am also very tired, stressed out and overworked so apologies if my writing is crap.

Very strange occurrences going on since I started receiving many emails & phone calls a few weeks ago, particularly from early last week
1. from a string of young bright & intelligent men asking me lots of questions about Mark McMurtrie or about us and Love For Life or about our dealings with him or about our dealings with you
2. lots of phone signals and pitches with wobble sounds like an oscilloscope
3. wobble sounds over the voip like oscilloscopes (not normal at all)
4. unmarked cars coming and going
5. being followed when driving
6. noises on roof
7. Dogs barking next door at fence adjoining our home at odd hours during the night
etc
etc

I have not said anything to Fiona about this. She has so much on her plate going back the last 3 months and with her parents coming to stay shortly I don't want to burden her anymore.

After noises & dogs, went out 3.00am two nights ago with torch and saw in the distance strange silhouette's of two men in full black tights drifting away, I could be wrong but I felt a strong pull of emotion in my gut so my body was telling me something is going on.

Even had intense dreams almost every-night (late-nights) which I would awake out of.

The last time I experienced this kind of circumstance was when Joe Bryant got shot through the hip and both he and wife in their mid-70's were horribly hog-tied for hours by two men in balaclavas who broke into their home 5.00am, a few days after he helped me change locks on the beach house to reclaim possession of home for Fiona May 2006.

I remember chatting with a research friend (can't disclose) early last year who told me that ASIO was using Facebook to establish profiles of young men and women who then advance on to bigger better things in the wider community with community support developed through Facebook.

I just received an email from one of the many young guys who established a friendship with Adam Davis over Facebook. This young guy purchased Mark Pytellek's manual and DVD from us and is a good guy, heart in the right place. He never mentioned anything to me about his dealings with Adam Davis. I wrote to him earlier today after I saw comments from him posted on Adam's website. I mentioned to him what happened with my comment and sent him a copy of this posting including the 1st email I sent to Adam 4.00am. It felt right to do this so I did it.

What I am telling you now has not been discussed with him or anyone else bar a few close friends.... I intentionally posted a comment 4.00am, 21.5 hours ago (twice) on Truth-movement Australia website, it is written specifically in code (how I was trained back in 2005 - can't discuss as we are under oath) to see how Adam would react to it, what he would do to it, to see if his heart is in the right place etc.

I then emailed the comment as well to Adam using the email address he used to contact me a few days ago to let him know about this comment being posted, covering all bases.

I always trust my real feelings and I have had a a most uncomfortable vibe hanging around for 1 week or so now and it all came to a head when I went back on Adams website an hour ago to see if he had posted this comment (I sent you a copy of this comment), it is still not posted, though many others had been posted since mine was posted around 4.00am. I tried reposting it and the "highly sophisticated" data-base software said this comment is a duplicate of one already posted. This also occurred when I posted it a second time 4.00am 21.5 hours ago. Even the next day the software even remembers all my details in the comment section with name, website and email addresses already showing without even pressing a key or mouse.

The young guy who wrote to me in reply to my email about Adam said his comments (and everyone he knows) get instantly posted to the website. This means that the software Adam's got has detected the ip address I am using to post my comment and has refused to post it. WHY??????

I then watched Adams video and looked into his eyes (I am trained in body language but now more aligned to listening to the feelings/information I receive from ones sudden facial and body gestures like twitches) and huge alarm signals came on instantly. Adam is operating another agenda to the one he is selling. Look at his eyes. They are not sincere or pure, they are hard and cold, they are not in spirit/in-flame with the subject at hand. Did you notice this???? What comes out of his mouth does not come out of his heart.

He is a parrot brilliantly trained. I remember the first time I went to this website I got a cold shiver rush over me.

Things are most definitely not what they seem to be. I was laying in bed this mid-morning and a strong vision of a brown young bird like a starling was laying on its side dead, it had just died.

It appears that he is a plant to subvert this freedom-truth movement. I Hope I Am Wrong but even as I wrote those words I feel I am selling myself short.

It just came back to me that twice over the past 6 weeks or so David Icke came into my dreams and I consciously/instantly woke up so I would remember them. David Icke has been in our website looking around and is fully aware of what we have posted about him, but more than this he is fully briefed on what he must do while in Australia. Our work has been spreading very fast over the past twelve months but it takes a long-time for the information to sink in and the pennies to drop, but at some point it will explode in a huge rush just as we dreamt it/intend it, the effect being like the hundred monkey syndrome.

I now issue you a "BIG WARNING", you, a few others and us, who I consider are true-sincere freedom-truth determiners are being set up to be harmed in whatever way possible, possibly by being discredited through association with material at hand based on possibly your "pending phone conversation" (Providing LEGAL AD-VICE) or by other means brewing away in these secret service agents evil, scheming minds. They want to establish controversy with precedence like they did with the Fitzgibbon/Ian Henke case in London and Hague a few years ago. They white-ant to establish precedence just as they did with the two judges a few years ago over traffic/parking/speeding fines, with 1 judge they broke into his home and the message to the sheeple "Hey, if they can break into a judges home anytime they feel like it, gees, they could break into my home or mums home at anytime either and do what they like ....... shit no one is safe".

Have you noticed a wave of change, like a cool breeze after a hot day, come across the freedom-truth movement over the past week or so, most of it related to young intelligent men coming on board???

There is no doubt there has been a flush of young men and women trained by ASIO etc who have been released into the freedom-truth movement, and others like cosmic consciousness/galactic channellings websites to control as much influence as possible so that the good guys can't influence enough sheeple to break away from these enclosures during this coming 12 months. We are presently causing massive damage to their spells over the sheeple and it appears Fiona and I are being targeted to stop the influences we presently have. The information we are now providing destroys all-their-lies.

I hope I am wrong about Adam Davis (I wonder if that is his real name? he looks more like Jewish to me than an anglo-saxon) but its best to be on the side of great caution and let them make all the moves because they are the ones pushing ahead, so best to stay laid back and casual and just observe what comes your/our way and when it does feel if it is a temptation to draw/suck you/us in or not.

Cut and pasted from this posting back in July 2007 which is very relevant to this situation, particularly about monitoring the sheeple breaking away from their enclosures etc etc:

What Are We Waiting For? by Arthur & Fiona Cristian 25th July 2008: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5147

We invite you to spend some time in the Love For Life website because it contains a mountain of information on many, many subjects, most of it information that does not reach the mainstream media and all of it information that could save your life and the lives of your children and grandchildren. If you have any concern about the way the world is headed, please inform yourself and do something! Global genocide is on the cards as intended by the establishment. Don't think you are safe because you have money, assets, land, home and security. The establishment grim reaper is indiscriminate. We feel fortunate to have found the truth but with it comes the burden of the information of a global tsunami that is coming everyone’s way. When you realise what the establishment have been up to over the years you might view the steps you think you have taken towards your "security" a little differently.

There is no doubt that a huge global financial crash is on the way, even though the mainstream media is keeping mum. Now is the time to use any money or assets you have before they are worthless, and they will be, just like credit cards which are pieces of plastic that have caused destruction to the earth! Also worthless is the mountain of knowledge that most of us base our lives on. None of our history, religions, politics, philosophies, science, freedom movements, new age, environmental movements, businesses or organisations have brought us peace so why do we keep thinking they will? All the knowledge that we rely on leads us into endless enclosures where we get stuck, espousing the knowledge that we have learnt and pitting our wits against those in other enclosures who think their knowledge is better than our knowledge! Even the freedom movement has many different enclosures that ensure we remain at odds and under the thumb.

There are many of us fighting in the enclosures of Honour-Dishonour, Admiralty Law, Commercial Redemption, Contract Law, Common Law, Biblical Law, Trial By Jury, Land Rights, Property Rights, Fraud etc, which is exactly what the establishment planned from the beginning. Each enclosure is treated as a containment field (distraction) to keep those who are breaking away from inspiring the global herd to break away as well. With many small enclosures at play, the establishment is able to monitor their present hold over the global herd while taking stock of everyone who is trying to break away. All rebels are classified as major threats to the establishment because if the establishment loses power and control over the global herd it will perish. The establishment knows everything about the rebels and plans to deal with them all at the appropriate time, just as Lenin and Stalin did when they murdered 60 million Soviets.

With the establishment cowboys manipulating the global herd to enter one final enclosure called their New World Order (microchipped population - cashless economy - one world government, banking, economy, language, law, religion, education etc), they do not want any rebels influencing the global herd into rebelling and breaking away. The containment fields collectively provide the establishment with a measuring stick as to how fast they need to go into pushing the global herd towards their final New World Order enclosure. The internet provides another measuring stick as the rebels all use the internet (part of Big-Bother) to communicate.

With the incontrovertible evidence of the establishment's past 10,000 years of mind control tactics now revealed for all to see and spreading quickly around the globe, those of the establishment are panicking. They are now pushing as hard as they possibly can to engineer local and international events (terrorism, wars, civil wars, lack of food and clean drinking water, close down/collapse of the internet, economic depression, government collapse, global warming/environmental issues, pestilence, pandemics, alien invasion etc) that will cause military curfews/police state, the culling of all rebels and a global microchipped population.

We receive mountains of emails from men and women relying on knowledge and blaming someone, anyone for our current crisis but none of them are game enough to shoulder the responsibility themselves and start DOING something to stop destroying MAN and the earth. We have become so clever, so full of the knowledge that we have been pumped with, that we have forgotten that we are creators who are capable of creating the world we desire. Instead, we spend our time re-creating the world of destruction that we are experiencing.

The work that we do in our careers has us be the horses of the chariots of the establishment, pulling along the "civilization" they have created and which we believe in, despite the fact that it is to our detriment to do so. Be it judge, barrister, lawyer, politician, executive, director, educator, expert, academic, professor, journalist, sheriff, policeman, law enforcement officer, military personnel, big business/private corporation employee or observer, etc, we are all creating the world of chaos the way it presently is, pitting ourselves against one another as we claw for the scraps thrown from establishment tables. Being clever is a very dangerous game. Is it worth it, keeping in mind that members of the establishment are also very clever. Are we a ship of fools drifting aimlessly, led by fools? Isn't it time to get together instead of snarling at one another from opposing corners?

While we spend our waking time espousing all the clever knowledge we believe in, only the establishment benefits because we are too distracted (sitting on the fence) from creating and being the remedy HERE AND NOW. By walking-the-talk of the remedy we create here and now, we are relinquishing the hold the establishment has over us (horses), setting ourselves free to enjoy the beauty of our earth while completely disempowering the establishment. How else will we arrive at a world of true peace, freedom, joy and abundance for all?
Please tell me I am wrong, that I am just tired, overworked, stressed out and need a few days off to just relax and smell the roses.

Even if I am wrong about Adam, there is still something sinister going on in the background, things just do not feel right. As one of the comments posted in his website indicated, where did all this money suddenly come from, the costs to cover David Icke, the website, the marketing/network, etc etc. At first impression everything seems too well organised/sophisticated/professional for a 22 year old young MAN involved in a freedom-truth movement to be penetrating this network at super-speed.

I can't think of one freedom-truther who I respect and trust (and there are many), regardless of differences of opinion, who have not put in many years of toil to become the polished-skilled switched on freedom-truther he/she has become after being terribly harmed by the system/the establishment in the first instance.

For a long-time I felt SOS news was an establishment plant website targeting its marketed of disenfranchised farmers etc, now we have another one tailor made for the free man strawman movement. They did this with 9/11 as well.

Let me know what you think?

Do you still think your notebook might have been hacked??????

All the best
Arthur Cristian

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16/01/2009 12:19 PM

info.tma @ sanitised wrote:

Arthur,

Adam Davis here from TruthMovementAustralia.com.au

I need to urgently get in touch with Mark Mcmurtie, can you please send me his
email address.

thanks in advance - you are an inspiration.

Adam Davis

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20/01/2009 4:07 AM

Hi Adam
This is a comment we just posted to your website
All the best
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

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The matrix goes as deep as the fiction goes. Until we are able to see (feel) fiction for what it really is in all its forms we will never be able to step out of the matrix (fiction).

The matrix is built on lies and those who believe in fiction are liars trapped in the matrix. True freedom exists outside the matrix in the real world called creation.

The truth can only ever be found in creation and The Establishment knows this so they work very very hard to keep everyone trapped in the fiction all-the-time. They do this by sending forth wave after wave of their "We Will Lead Every Revolution Against Us" lackeys.

Hi Adam, thanks for contacting us and letting us know about this website. We will do whatever we can to support this Truth-Movement Website. For starters we will post full details of your website in various locations around the Love For Life Website shortly.

Also, David Icke stayed in our family home for around 1 week back in 1995/96 in Sydney, he even put on a talk for our friends in the living room. Many strange occurrences happened during that week but it took until 2005 when a script analysis was performed on one of his books to realise that David Icke is one of The Establishment "We Will Lead Every Revolution Against Us" lackeys.

Unrelated to our work or influences, there are now hundreds who have contacted us since 2005 who have come to the same conclusion about David Icke working against all sincere freedom-truth seekers. Some of them worked very closely with David.

You need to study the body of our work to comprehend how The Establishment and their lackeys have been conning MAN for the past 10,000 years.

Once you can recognise the clearly defined distinction between the information that is creation and the knowledge that is fiction you will finally have the tools that will assist you in stepping out of the matrix. Our work is based on this very subject culminating in the remedy we now have on offer called "Kindom".

As we have now unraveled the scam in all its forms we have began the steps of providing, talks and workshops for those interested in learning to remember who they really are and what life really is all about. We have also began the initial steps of creating music/songs, videos, film and documentaries to assist anyone who is determined to step out of the fiction and return back to creation (Kindoms).

The remedy that solves all MANS woes can only ever be found where MAN was before MAN fell from creation. No Remedy can ever be found during the time of MANS falling from creation.

For those interested in learning everything there is to know about creation and fiction then for starters please visit the body of our work. Here is a link to a few of our recent postings......

IT IS VERY EASY TO TELL THE TRUTH FROM ALL LIES
THERE ARE SO MANY LIES TO POINT OUT + The Earth's Fever by Arthur Cristian 7th January 2009:
http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/6193

Stepping Out Of The Matrix by Arthur Cristian 17th January 2009:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6268

PLASTIC BARBIE PLASTIC KEN & THE CONSCIOUSNESS OF RESPONSIBILITY by Arthur Cristian 18th January 2009:
http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/6268#comment-1028

Life Is Good If Your The Predator by Arthur Cristian 16th January 2009:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6269

Many others can be found here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385

It is man-made Knowledge invented out-of-thin-air that is destroying MAN, Earth & Nature. The Establishment are very clever at conning us into trapping ourselves into their matrix of lies and we do this by believing in and worshiping their knowledge "on offer".

You will be staggered by just how deep the rabbit hole goes, so deep that nearly everyone in the freedom-truth movement, particularly those in the free man / strawman arena are still trapped in the fiction and they don't even realise it.

Good on you Adam for the work you now do. It brings great joy to our hearts to see young men like you taking a stand against lies and liars.

All the best to you, your extended family and other loved ones

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
action & loveforlife.com.au
http://www.loveforlife.com.au

ps. the website receives around 5000 visitors per day, around 1.6 million strikes per month and we receive around 300 emails/website comments per day so we apologise in advance if it takes days/weeks for us to respond.

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20th Jan 2008

Hi Grant
Adam Davis contacted us originally by phone call (or someone else young who lives in Perth) and by email a few days ago, regarding Mark McMurtrie & we have also had an increase in younger people contacting us recently as well, some looking for Mark McMurtrie. Some asked us what our thoughts were about Mark McMurtrie and we explained that we can only work with what we are given to work with (substance) meaning we do not talk behind someone else's back to back-stab them or undermine their character etc.

Basically we are not interested in creating a controversy where there isn't one but we did point out that Mark McMurtrie has created a controversy about us, the accusations being all lies and when we confronted him on a few occasions via email about his accusations (we heard from others that he had been back-stabbing us etc) all he offered each time was foul, most abusive, nasty, aggressive and hateful/spiteful venom at us without any evidence to back his claim that he had been injured/harmed by us whatsoever.

So we warn everyone that Mark McMurtrie is a fallen man not to be trusted until he cleans up his act. We explain that the MAN he is creating offers impure and insincere feelings and thoughts which will effect everything that stems from the MAN he is creating, and those who allow themselves to be influenced by Mark McMurtrie will also be effected by the impure and insincere feelings and thoughts created by Mark McMurtrie leading to Harm being done upon those being influenced by Mark McMurtrie.

A light that is pure and sincere is a light that is pure and sincere. A light that has shadows (impure and insincere feelings, thoughts, words and deeds) intermingled is a light not to be trusted. We become in the image of what we focus on and if we focus on impurity and insincerity that is what we project/create in the image of the MAN we are creating. We are all creating MAN, its just that very very very few of us are conscious of the MAN we are creating.

Anyway out of all of this I finally had a look around Adams website and decided to post this comment (see below) around 4.00am this morning. We allow all comments to be posted to the Love For Life website as is instantly without going through an approval process. We remove only those that are hateful and spiteful or racist or contain lots of nasty foul language or promotes sex, violence, hatred, etc or contain links to websites for commercial advertising purposes/means.

A lot will be said about young Adam and his website based on whether this comment is allowed to be posted or not. Its now 1.13pm and its not posted as yet. I will check again tonight.

Did you or family receive the Mark Pytellek parcel we sent New Years Eve?

How is life in offshore Japan???

All the best
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

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20th Jan 2008

Ok, I've known Adam through facebook for quite some time (long before he got his site up and running) now and I have become friends with him since. He seems like a very open minded young guy (not that I'm much older lol) and has a lot going for him. He seems to handle criticism quite maturely and well in my opinion, I don't know why ur post would not have gone up on there??? If i post it appears instantly so I'm not aware of any screening process at all. His site has already been attacked by some really negative and idiotic comments and they still appear without discretion so I'm unsure of why urs may not have posted. Maybe it would be good to ask him? I can't see him lying to you or being deceitful at all.

Mark McMurtrie I spoke to on the phone once on a call and a few times via text and he seemed good to me too. What has happened between the love for life campaign and Mark that could have created a division? To me it really seems a shame when good people don't get along, especially when u have 2 brilliant minds with a lot of knowledge and truth between them that could really find common ground and kick some goals (so to speak). I don't doubt u for a second that if Mark didn't like someone or what they stood for that he'd certainly cuss and react in quite a volatile manner though. I'm sorry if u guys were on the receiving end of that too, u can tell by talking to him that he is as rough as guts and as Aussie or Ocker as they came haha.

Oh and come to think of it... Adam has received a lot of criticism for organizing to bring David Icke to Australia as a kick off and I feel for him there. As has been stated his goal is not for anyone to be brainwashed by what David says at all but rather to unite a lot of like minded free thinking people that have at least taken the first step from fully being one of the sheeple. Getting so many good intended people in the same place at the same time can really create some good possibilities and great vibes. I will attend the Icke talk for this purpose, I mean some there might really think he is onto it all and the ducks nuts but I have some questions I want to raise myself in the after talk and I know a fair few that do also. And not about his talk. U for starters raised a few points that made me think twice about David and then quite a few other things have started to get my attention that don't sit with me. I mean take a look at this picture of him (below the video and read the text under it) http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/18696/48 ... it's like they are trynna market him as some sought of God himself and he certainly plays along with it well.

[deleted .......... a large paragraph]

Hope all is well my friend,
love and peace,
Grant.

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21/01/2009 10:56 AM

Hi Arthur,

I tested their system this morning, posting your message under a different email, and it wouldn't go through, so I shortened it and it was fine. It must just have a word count limit that's all...and you do tend to write too much. Less is more.

Best
Thomas

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21/01/2009 12:41 AM

Hi Adam,
Just following up to see what happened with this posting?
All the best
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Love For Life Website
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 04:07:32 +1100
From: Love For Life Campaign
Reply-To: action @ loveforlife.com.au
Organization: Love For Life
To: info.tma@ sanitised

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21/01/2009 11:52 AM

Hi Arthur,
Sorry I wasn't on last night,

I loved your post, thanks for sharing

David Icke is just one of many speakers that I will be promoting, so his agenda
does not really matter, its about bringing everyone together to share and
discuss.

Sincerely

Adam Davis

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21/01/2009 11:06 AM

Have you seen these:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 2813528043

http://www.inspirationalevents.com.au/31.html

Adam Davis, The AdWords Guy

Few people, at 21, have travelled the world as a sought-after speaker, had girls screaming for autographs and been recognised as an international expert on a topic that is one of the most talked about subjects in the marketing world.
Not to mention run their own marketing firm with several employees that consult with multi-million dollar companies which are managed by people twice their age and discussing with them how best to increase their profits - using the power of the internet. Yet this is precisely what Adam Davis does.

Based in Perth, Australia, Adam specialises in driving massive amounts of qualified traffic to a website using Google AdWords, and has a track record of success in managing campaigns for businesses large and small and bringing better leads, higher conversions and more profits. Some of Adam's customers have even gone so far as to say he works miracles... of the business kind!

Adam will not only show you the insider tips and secrets to run a successful Google AdWords campaign, but he'll reveal how you can drive hundreds of visitors to your site within just a few hours. And better yet, you can have an international expert in Google AdWords personally run your campaign if you wish. Or you can learn to do it yourself with Adam's valuable home study course that is an international bestseller!

With Adam, you'll be able to turn your website from an expensive white elephant to a moneymaking monster! You will be astounded at how this young man can transform your online business!

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21/01/2009 11:24 AM

Adams Websites

http://www.createthelifeclub.com/cp/Adam-Davis

http://www.xing.com/profile/Adam_Davis

http://www.yoursuccessclub.com/Expert-P ... Adam-Davis

http://uk.youtube.com/user/AdamDavisTV

Thomas

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21/01/2009 2:36 PM

Reply to Thomas..

Then what about this comment posted here: http://www.truthmovementaustralia.com.a ... omment-221 pasted below???
It had no problem being posted.
Mine is below it condensed to same font & size (the 2 samples are not included in this post)

Less is more for those trapped in the knowledge (true matrix) but more is not enough for those outside the matrix. Remember, we are talking about the worship of the intellect (knowledge) here which is the basis of all mind-control (lost in fiction). The sun shines, have you ever seen it stop shining? Your statement "less is more" is only relevant for those who live out of their intellects (in the matrix). We never shorten or edit (apart from the odd grammatical error) anyone's postings because we support freedom of speech and we publish everything relevant to the subject.

Do they want us to fit neatly into their paradigm so they don't grow beyond what they already know? Should we be fitting in with the herd? Only those still in the fiction put up barriers when it comes to freedom of information, speech, thought, etc. Those who truly want to grow with the truth are open to finding it wherever it may be, not just where they expect or hope it to be. Those not really interested in growing are those who censor and control. They prefer to fit in with the standards of the herd and reject all else.

Only those still in the fiction want to fit in with the fiction and behave the right way to be accepted by the herd. Fiona and I will not conform to the fiction, will you? By becoming them (less is more) you join them. If we write the way they do, fit in the way their brains were hard-wired by the education of fiction and the "norms" of the society that unfolds out of it what difference do we make? How do we stand out from the herd???? Is it not a compliment that we are getting plenty of reaction from the sheeple, that the sheeple are lifting their heads to notice the distraction from their grazing amongst the grass of knowledge?

Knowledge is where all the sheeple are grazing. Those that wish to remain with the sheeple will ignore people like us and our work so we don't threaten the barriers to their enclosures. They do not want to lift their heads and look over the fence to other possibilities. The freedom truth movement, including strawman/freeman/honour/dishonour/admiralty law/commerce etc is an enclosure (maze) of many enclosures (mazes) for those who don't like the fiction but it is not a remedy because they are still trapped within the fiction of knowledge. Yes we use the fiction to deal with the "norms" of the society of fiction (keep the wolves at bay) until enough sheeple have awakened and together we drift away from fiction to rejoin creation.

Until the sheeple learn to distinguish between the information that is creation and the knowledge of fiction they will always be trapped and the destruction will continue. They will fight to protect their knowledge with their stances of arrogance and or with their lives because they value their knowledge above themselves, others and the earth. This is the problem we have been facing for the last 10,000 years. The slaves are fighting to wear their manacles and protest vigorously whenever someone tries to loosen them.

The carefully crafted education we undergo, if we choose to follow through to the top, refines and hones our fictitious intellect to the point where we say "less is more" . Less is more is conditional, it is arrogance to tell one man or woman that they should only say so much or in such a way. These masters of the intellect are the leaders of the packs, the lawyers, barristers, top business men and women, politicians, judges etc, still part of the herd but at the top of the pyramids. This education, this pure knowledge, is the basis of the British Empire, and forms the backbone of the true practise of Freemasonry (worship of the intellect of knowledge). At the top they are the leaders of the herd, all grazing in the fictitious fields of fiction, therefore regardless of how brilliant their clever intellects maybe they offer no remedy to step out of the fiction. All their cleverness does nothing to solve our problems, does not offer any remedy. David Icke, Steven Spielberg, Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, Jordan Maxwell, Paul Keating, Einstein, Robert Arthur Menard, Churchill, etc etc, hundreds of thousands of brilliant intellects.... how many more of us are going to join the worship of the fiction in rebellion against creation????

I go to great trouble to point out statements like these "More Is Less" to show what is the more behind the less. I only do this because I love you and care about you and only wish the very best for you at all times. The sun shines and all is life.

Arthur Cristian

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21/01/2009 2:48 PM

To Thomas......

I reduced it down to a slightly smaller size (see below) than the other one posted that was approved and it still gets rejected. I reduced it 1/2 size as a test and it still gets rejected.
Bullshit......

Arthur

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21/01/2009 3:06 PM

To Thomas.....

All the reason that he was intellectually prepared by his masters for what he now does. He is a plant. The true masters are gardeners who plan their gardens of society in their image well in advance, they know what plants need nurturing amongst the garden of society in their image until the time is right, forecasted for when their plants bear fruit (when they are put before the sheeple to lead the way - "We Will Lead Every Revolution Against Us").

The plants are given plenty of fertiliser, plenty of attention/support and guidance, plenty of weeding all around so there is no competition for nutrition (money, finance, advice etc) and no shade cast over them by other strong-tall trees, until their standing has been achieved amongst the sheeple who graze in the paddocks of their masters gardens of knowledge. Adam Davis is a plant. He has been prepared for what he now does just as David Icke was prepared for what he now does (they both have eyes of ice) as do all other liars and deceivers who work for their masters in maintaining power and control over the sheeple.

Remember, its all about keeping the sheeple trapped in knowledge. Doesn't matter what knowledge, as long as it is knowledge because then they can still control them.

The masters do not want the sheeple to awaken to the fiction, to see it for what it really is and flee it in great droves.

Arthur Cristian

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21/01/2009 3:23 PM

Hi Adam
Thanks for writing back, Could you then put it up please in its entirety here: Without You, There Would Be No Truth Movement, because it keeps getting blocked.
I tried twice again today and both times it was rejected.

Its pasted again below

All the best
Arthur Cristian

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21/01/2009 3:50 PM

Arthur, I loved your post and think it is all very useful information.

I am going to do my best to figure out why its not posting.

Give me a call anytime on 0439 995503

Love your work, you are truly an inspiration

Adam Davis

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21/01/2009 3:51 PM

Hey Arthur,

I think the comment must simply be too big for word-press to allow - I will post
this manually for you ok?

Adam

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21/01/2009 4:00 PM

Arthur,

I have found the problem - your post was being picked up as spam.

I sincerely apologize for this! I love your posts and your website, and want to
help spread the message.

Sorry for the inconvenience mate,

It's great to see everyone moving towards a common goal - lets get this
information out to as many people as possible.

Adam Davis

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On 21/01/09 5:23 PM, "Love For Life Campaign" wrote:

21st January 2009

Hello Thomas, Richard, Grant and Adam
I finally had a very long chat with Adam Davis today and it became obvious very quickly that he is indeed a good guy with good intentions with a good heart. So I apologised to him profusely for all the accusations I placed on him for being a plant. I told Adam everything I said about him and I am sending "all" the emails I wrote about him (see above) to Adam as part of my purging for thinking such negative/wrong thoughts about Adam.

Again, I am very sorry Adam

To think I said you had icy eyes like David Icke and looked Jewish. Gees, !!!! please book me in quick...... Well at least it proves to everyone that I am not perfect either as some are still led to believe, yes we get such emails. I need a real break from all this work. There is always a first time for everyone. It is very hard to trust anyone in this line of work, trust issues come with the territory. Its so important to have regular sleep, go to bed early, go out amongst nature in bare feet and eat well, "raw-living food". I fail miserably with the first three.

It was great having such a long chat today with Adam and finding another blood-brother on the path of true-freedom for all and it inspired me immensely that he fully comprehended the defined distinctions between the information that is creation and the knowledge that is fiction. Adam is focused on creating a tribe, has purchased the 1st of 9 Ringing Cedar books and wants to study the body of our work.

Thomas Anderson has received this email but I have bcc his email address as I do not have his permission to give it out at this stage.

Its obvious I am burnt out and need a break. I have been working 16/18 hour days 24/7 since Nov 08 right through Christmas/New Year until today, working to 4.00am lately. With everything else going on with children, wife, police, sheriffs, SDRO wanting to take our cars, mountains of administrative paper work and now still having to look out for who is behind all the weird occurrences and what they are up to, no wonder I need a break.

Also, yesterday I got a call from the Wollongong Sheriffs office, the young man was very nervous and upset saying he wanted us to take all the photos down of Wollongong sheriffs, police & detectives and threatened to have our website taken down etc etc. I kept saying "put it in writing and sent it to whatever address you have to the Arthur Cristian (I wouldn't tell him who I was) your looking for". He was incredibly nervous telling me that the Sheriffs, police and detectives in the photos are not happy about it. hahahahahahaha - Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office 17th October 2008 - Part One: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5742 Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office Part Two - Today, A Standoff Between Us & 4 Sheriff Officers & 4 Policeman: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6135

Little do they realise that those at the top of the SDRO may not be too happy when they realise that by "apologising for any confusion" they have caused Fiona and family in the letter dated 23 December 2008, http://loveforlife.com.au/files/Resized ... 8_0001.jpg and http://loveforlife.com.au/files/Resized ... 8_0002.jpg they have actually given us a lawful valid claim for injury. We will counter sue them for the harm and damages caused to us by their gross negligence, not to mention breaking the law, the trespass, the attempted rape (piracy-theft), the stress, the breach of office, the lack of valid court order or warrant, the breach of their duty of care.............can anyone think of any others?

We had every right to take photos of them trespassing on our property and being caught in the act of piracy etc.... for dumbo's Gods sake what were they doing there in the 1st place??? having a Devonshire tea party, socialising.....

Removing Adam out of the picture, what I have stated above is still true about the tactics used by the establishment and the brainsets/attitudes of the sheeple moulded by the education of the British Empire.

Thanks for showing me the way to love and forgiveness Adam
Your Awesome

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

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22/01/2009 1:32 AM

Arthur I already accept your apology, it is ok I completely understand your hesitation towards me and your skepticism.

I am very happy we spoke on the phone today, I got a lot out of our conversation, and we definitely connect on a higher level.

As you now know, my purpose in all of this is simply to bring everyone together, and show that we are all on the same side.

The TMA website has launched in a big way, and I am networking well, because these are the 2 skills that I have from being ‘in the system’ as an Internet Marketing expert and a seminar presenter.

Obviously my website and marketing has been professional, because I have spent the last 5 years showing people how to market their products and services online :)

I want to use my skills for the greater good now, instead of showing people how to profit from the system that does not serve them, only enslaves them.

I love what your doing Arthur, and I look forward to seeing what comes of it.

When I am in your area we will meet up in person.

Yours with the utmost respect and sincerity,

Adam L Davis
Truth Movement Australia

Mobile: 0439 995503
Email: Adam @ AdamDavis.tv
http://www.TruthMovementAustralia.com.au

“Instead Of Success, Money or Fame...Give Us Truth”

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22/01/2009 3:07 PM

There you are Adam: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6293 it shows up in many locations around the Love For Life Website.
This is my mark of respect and recognition for a beautiful young MAN (soul) committed to loving REAL life.

How is reality going for you since our chat yesterday? Are you noticing how everything is changing beyond anything you could have comprehended until our chat?

Just how deep does the rabbit hole (fiction) go?

There comes a point in our awakening when we stop being the lie and liar and be Truth.

Welcome to Kindom
A Do No Harm Community Of Conscious Creators
Truly Free - No Beliefs - No Ownership

You will also force yourself to change the motto: "Because The Only Good Is Knowledge And The Only Evil Is Ignorance".
You will know why when your expanding consciousness kicks your conscience up its rear end.

Conscious Love Always
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

ps: " When I am in your area we will meet up in person" (you will be looking a long time to find the person Adam, I suggest you ring us when in town and we will guide you in to the meet the MAN we are creating).

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22/01/2009 7:14 PM

Thank you Arthur, I appreciate the support.

And I also appreciate you catching me on saying ‘person’ :)

Adam

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Postby Oldie » Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:25 pm
So much speculation caused by something so, well, ridiculous.

The threads title says "Adam Davis being Knighted", so tell me where is this? Where is he being knighted in those photos? I can't see anyone performing any type of Knighting ritual.

I do see photos of a fairly young guy dressed up like in a high school play, or being one of those pretendy type teens that fantasise a lot and dress up accordingly, or many other possibilities.

Talk about tarred and feathered in quick time. Anyone want to throw the rope over a high branch so everyone is ready to lynch the guy when he does show up? Shit people. Wake up, there is no such a thing as trial in forum, finding someone guilty of an alleged "crime" before you know squat.

I think the Opening Poster should also be grilled to understand what the motivation for this most interesting allegations based on photos that show nothing of what he alleges.

* Why is it Kosher to post other people's emails up on a forum, possibly without permission, and what has this got to do with the thread, what is it hoped to achieve?

Seems something is afoot and it smells bad to me. Methinks I will lurk for some time now to see how this unfolds.. and leave the forum if it becomes a shitfight between a variety of parties with different agendas.

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Madness takes a toll, so please have correct change.

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Postby Love For Life » Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:26 pm

"In 2007 I was initiated into the School.
"To serve, as our lords, the sick and the poor"."

To Serve As Our Lords = The Establishment Of Fallen MANS True Freemasonry

The Sick And The Poor = The Serfs/Commoners/Goi/Goy/Slaves/Renters (99.99% of the total global population).

Now that Adam knows what the above really means he is opting out as best he can as quick as possible. He really didn't know what he was getting into.

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

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New postby Guan Thwei » Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:58 am

metatron wrote:**** me....Andy, you have **** up big time. First of all, **** all of you stupid motherfuckers for being ignorant and lazy.

Second, I'm closing in on you Andy, you pathetic motherfucker. We''ll find you, you ****, don't worry about that.

LOT is who he says he is, but that was private information, and you had no right to publish it.

LOT will be lodging court documents tomorrow, he's going to sue you Andy, and the admin of the site for breech of privacy.

Then he'll deal with you Andy...you **** scumbag!

If he really lodges court documents, he's gonna cut in his own wrists because he threathened to harm another person.
So if I was Andy, I'd lodge counter court documents because you are threatening me multiple times to harm me.

"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."
David Rockefeller

Guan Thwei

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New postby Oldie » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:38 am
It has always amazed that some people think it is okay to say and do what they want, to threaten how they wish, then get truly angry when their Lowness is shown to the public. What's the go with that?

So, on that note.....

Can someone explain to me how it is that conversations and it seems a little anger by one or two members leads to promises or threats of physical and or legal action ?

Are we adults here? Then why are some choosing to act as dumbarse-teenagers?

Who cares what Biker group anyone represents? And why must the power of the Red Machine be brought to bear on someone who speaks there mind against one person claiming that membership?

That's seriously screwed up folks, seriously.

Just as seriously screwed up is threatening to use the power of that club to sort out something totally unrelated to Clubs and Bikes.

So now not only are the PTB of concern to us, now we have to pussyfoot around and choose words extra carefully so that we don't upset the Outlaw Representatives. That's bullshit!!

I rode as a free man all my years, never being involved in Outlaw clubs that only want you for what business you can do for them, and made friends in one or two clubs with guys who were Real and not into the bullshit Power game of "I'm a 1%'er" mentality. Screw that bullshit and anyone who tries to use it as leverage for no GOOD reason.

Perhaps it is time to lock this thread.
Madness takes a toll, so please have correct change.

Oldie

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New postby mr_anderson » Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:25 pm

metatron wrote:**** me....Andy, you have **** up big time. First of all, **** all of you stupid motherfuckers for being ignorant and lazy.

Second, I'm closing in on you Andy, you pathetic motherfucker. We''ll find you, you ****, don't worry about that.

LOT is who he says he is, but that was private information, and you had no right to publish it.

LOT will be lodging court documents tomorrow, he's going to sue you Andy, and the admin of the site for breech of privacy.

Then he'll deal with you Andy...you **** scumbag!

Riiiiiiiiiight.

Your not very good at your job ;)

Please stop provocateuring, distracting and diverting people away from the issue which has now been resolved. You'll note the seatbelt sign is now off and your free to get the hell of the plane...thanks for flying busted airways.

mr_anderson

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New postby Love For Life » Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:52 pm

Adam wrote:oh and for any people who feel that this is the end, its not. It is the beginning.

I do not mind any attacks on me, I have a thick skin and can handle people saying stupid shit. They are bound to. What I will not tolerate is attacks on my family, that is too far.

There is nothing wrong with this website or its contents, it is simply the smallest of minorities which ruin it for everyone else. I have learnt so much from this site, and it will live on even if these people do not wish it to.

The meet ups are still happening, and there is a lot more respect shown there than on this forum thats for sure.

The Truth Movement in Australia, or around the world, will never have unity. Thats where they've got you by the balls. Because some of you see love, unity and respect as all New Age, New World Order crap.

Well if thats the case for you, then good luck to you.

My new website about Self Sustainabilty will be up soon. And I will make it a happy, friendly and compassionate place to be, mark my words.

Adam.

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by Love For Life » Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:52 pm

Change it to Life Sustainability Adam.... the Self is a fiction and is the cause of so much destruction to creation (to life).

Have posted links to podcasts (internet radio interviews with Giorgio Repeti from Talking Alternative.com) that go into greater detail about the fictitious self (amongst so many other subjects) here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608 (scroll down to find them)

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

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New postby Morganti » Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:43 pm

Just sent an email through to the the Sovereign Grand Commander at The Supreme Council of the 33rd Degree in Wasington DC, Ronald Searle.

Sending emails to media agencies or secret societies (other than the SMOM here in Australia) is pointless.
None of them would engage in forum discussion, and even if they did they aren't the authority you need to engage with.
And I wouldn't trust the Knights of Malta either, even if you could get in contact with them.

The Supreme Council of the 33rd Degree will have NO association with the Knights of Malta, correct me if I am wrong.

EDIT:

Mark *****, authorised spokesman for the Hells Angels Motorcycle Club, Queensland, 'UMC QLD' membership number 00**.

If you are a member of an Outlaw Motorcycle Gang or associate with one you NEED to rethink about how you approach things.
The people in the truth movement are generally not at all like people who are in OMG's or associate with them. You can't just come on here threatening violence for any reason, we are not a group of bikies.

And it only makes you look stupid doing so, no one here is impressed by the fact that you claim to be connected with the Hells Angels. Shame on you, we need to be working together not threatening to bring violence for reasons that are CLEARLY NOT JUSTIFIED.
Also mentioning that you are a member of or associate with such an organization is not good for the truth movement.

This is really going off topic, and I suggest if anyone is going to make any posts on this thread. They SHOULD BE addressing the issue the thread is about.

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New postby Erik » Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:20 am

metatron wrote:If you're wondering why Andy hasn't been posting here much today, it's because he's been busy over at 9/11oz, trying to make himself seem credible, I think they fiqured him out pretty quickly, decide for yourself

http://www.911oz.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=5351

Their thread has nearly as many hits as TMA's thread does! The really interesting part is NOT one comment from their spy Erik? Quick to judge on these boards, but not on HIS own home turf. I bet the folks at 9/11oz don't even know that Erik's here nearly everyday, trolling the TMA boards...

Plus, he banned 'least_of_these_2' again. You really are an idiot Andy, fair dinkum.

Wow I just saw this.. I feel special.. ♥

I love threads about me.

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New postby Nooby » Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:09 am
Is this thread still going?

I ran out of popcorn 5 pages ago.
The Admin and Moderators of TMA hold personal views, beliefs and opinions that do not necessarily reflect the beliefs and opinions of TMA as a whole.

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New postby change » Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:21 am

Nooby wrote:Is this thread still going?

I ran out of popcorn 5 pages ago.

...so did the thread. :mrgreen: http://www.holocaustdenialvideos.com

I'm not a Nazi...I just don't think the Holocaust happened.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6C9BuXe2RM&feature=player_embedded

burn him! burn him!

http://toughtalk.proboards.com
The censorship free zone.

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New postby Oldie » Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:35 am

Popcorn? Awww, I missed out again :?

Anyone Up On Their Knights Hospitaller 'Conspiracies'?

Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/09/05/13/new-world-order-conversation-...

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 12:14 — Arthur Cristian

RE: Adam Davis Being Knighted - Copy Of Forum Post Taken From TMA Website:
http://www.truthmovementaustralia.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1879

Anyone Up On Their Knights Hospitaller 'Conspiracies'?
A discussion in the 9/11oz forum regarding Adam Davis:
http://www.911oz.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=27462&posted=1#post27462
There are 11 pages in this forum string as of 23rd August 2009

Posted by The Watcher
20 Aug 2009, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 911oz View Post

The photos appear to have been taken in a hotel or club or convention centre - I say that because the down lights, paint and furnishings have that feel.

Add that to the plaques and certificates on the wall and it all points to the Masonic Centre in Sydney.

This view is further supported by images from the Masonic Centre posted on this thread which show the Knights' regalia in wall mounted show cases.

I am not intending to malign Adam in saying this, it is a reasonable assumption.

It looks like the key questions have been ignored and now forgotten due to all the in-fighting and name calling.

Amazing.

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Yes. The explanations have been as ambiguous and unsatisfactory as the reasons for 'stepping down' have been varied, as noted by Cams2. Though the true believers - many of them apparently adults - over there seem to be incapable of processing the possibility that thay have been misled, whether intentionally, maliciously or otherwise.

'The truth knocks on the door and you say, "Go away, I'm looking for the truth", and so it goes away. Puzzling'.

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To continue reading page 1 to page 11 of this 9/11oz forum string please go here:
http://www.911oz.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=27462&posted=1#post27462

Leader of Truth Movement Australia being Knighted

From David Icke's Forum

Link: https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=77343

13-08-2009, 02:38 PM

Photos of the leader of Truth Movement Australia, Adam Davis, on his Facebook profile claiming to be Knighted. He is dressed in a Knights Hospitaller robe. A few people have asked him to come clean with these pictures but he has failed to reply. I urge everyone to ask him what school he was initiated into and who he serves.

https://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=73638&id=723305567&ref=mf

Time To Take My Leave
A Post From Adam Davis In The TMA Forum

Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/09/05/13/new-world-order-conversation-...

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 12:39 — Arthur Cristian

Time To Take My Leave - A Post From Adam Davis In The TMA Forum:
http://www.truthmovementaustralia.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1906

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by Adam » Sat Aug 15, 2009 12:18 pm
I realise now that I am doing the Truth Movement more harm than good from running this forum and trying to put on events. Because of this I will be leaving TMA in the hands of people who you trust.

I don't know who that is, and because of that I would like you to vote for who should take over TMA.

TMA gets roughly 40 - 60 emails per day that will need to be answered to, I find this hard myself, so if someone wants to volunteer to help the person who takes over this will help.

I've also organised for Jordan Maxwell and Peter Joseph to come out sometime this year, so someone can either take the reigns and run these events, or I will tell them its cancelled. Please let me know asap for their sakes.

A complete revamp of Admins is also possible if you wish.

The site costs around $150 a month to run and you will need to host it, I also use iContact for sending out emails to the database of roughly 2000 truth seekers Australia wide.

For those that understand why I won't keep 'defending' myself, thank you for the good times on this thread, I am happy to still post and contribute to meet ups where possible.

Where to from here for me? I'm going to focus on helping Tomorrows Youth Australia and other fantastic organisations like Lifeline, and focus on become more self sustainable.

Thanks everyone, please post your votes.

Adam.

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by Krane » Sat Aug 15, 2009 12:28 pm
*makes chicken noises*

Just kidding bro, or maybe not. Do what you must, I'm more of a jester than an answer-guy.

Though this does seem to be your baby. If people don't like it they should make their own site. It's a big interweb. Whoever runs this site after you will be suspect anyway.

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by mr_anderson » Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:19 pm
A bit of an over-reaction for those who asked genuine questions and only received general replies like it 'was a friend'.

I doubt this should be the moment you back away from TMA because of the chosen few you've chosen to listen to rather than the genuine questioners.

All I ask, as I can only speak for myself is more specifics of the get-up and if you really knew what the symbol meant and the implication of setting up a website dedicated to exposing secret societies? (Among other topics)

Wearing that robe and setting up this website will peak some interest and it's not fair that you play the victim and shy away from giving specifics.

You may be 100% correct that it's your friend's robe but that's all I've been given in way of a response so I do apologise for the bluntness of my post.

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by change » Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:27 pm

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Adam wrote:I realise now that I am doing the Truth Movement more harm than good from running this forum and trying to put on events.
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Which Truth Movement is being referred to here? This same rhetoric came through in this thread...
http://www.truthmovementaustralia.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1435

I see EVERY SINGLE deactivation from this forum as a loss for the truth movement in australia and around the world. All opinions, beliefs and philosophies are welcome here....

...I'm not having a go at Adam, far from it, he needs to find his feet and get back on the job. It just needs to recognised that this places is new, is not 'The' truth movement, it is a midget which stands on the shoulders of giants. It can however make a difference if it finds a direction and cause.

I say thumbs up to Adam for getting this place happening, it bears testament to his skills, but what is it really about and where is it heading? Is this place about spiritual/new age/theosophical Truths or about hard hitting real political Truths?

I'm getting pissed off with talking, I want action. I think we need to work out a national group evolutionary precision placement strategy, starting with the emulation and infiltration of GetUp!.org. We need Adam because he has the marketing skills and is able to inspire people. Propaganda/marketing is everything.

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by jacksomc+ » Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:32 pm
change, there is one difference between you and Adam, you talk about something, and Adam has acted, he has walked the talk.
If you don't like what's on the site why do you bother with it.

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by change » Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:44 pm

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jacksomc+ wrote:change, there is one difference between you and Adam, you talk about something, and Adam has acted, he has walked the talk.
If you don't like what's on the site why do you bother with it.
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Now why would come out with a spastic retarded comment like that jacksomc? I have a vision you arsehole, I just don't know how to connect with like minded people, that's why I came to this site.

Fu.ck you, you apathetic retard. If every one sat around like you trying to suck Adams cock and saying how he is doing such a wonderful job then this place will surely die.

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by Nooby » Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:46 pm
Settle petals.

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by jacksomc+ » Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:50 pm
change, l would like to see what you said above to my face,then you would see how weak l am, l found your information on the Holocaust interesting,but that's where it ends.

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by mr_anderson » Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:53 pm

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jacksomc+ wrote:change, l would like to see what you said above to my face,then you would see how weak l am, l found your information on the Holocaust interesting,but that's where it ends.
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Ok fellas back to your corners... No need for speculation to morph into little tiffs.

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by change » Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:03 pm

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jacksomc+ wrote:change, l would like to see what you said above to my face,then you would see how weak l am, l found your information on the Holocaust interesting,but that's where it ends.
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haha...I didn't say you were weak, just a retard. Get over it mate. Or are you insinuating that you would like to physically demonstrate to me that you are not 'weak'.

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by Nooby » Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:06 pm
Hey my epenis is bigger than yours, lets go out into the carpark and have an ewang fight!

geez guys.....

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by jacksomc+ » Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:10 pm
Change, why don't you reframe from personnel attacks, that would be a good start.

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by change » Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:14 pm

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jacksomc+ wrote:Change, why don't you reframe from personnel attacks, that would be a good start.
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Jacksomc, when you stop dribbling this sort of shit...change, there is one difference between you and Adam, you talk about something, and Adam has acted, he has walked the talk.

If you don't like what's on the site why do you bother with it....then I'll start being nice. OK, so you stop attacking me in the first place ok? I don't feel like taking shit today ok?

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by change » Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:16 pm

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geez guys.....

Nooby, that's not fair and you know it.

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by Calem Smith » Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:32 pm
ANYWAY

I own my business Southside Digital, its a .com.au hosted @ Hostsmart. I have very little knowladge with hosting ect, but if adam cant pay to keep it up, ill donate my space and bandwidth if its possible. Someone else would have to set it up and move everything ect, but i do have unlimited bandwidth. I have the "business package" http://hostsmart.com.au/

My online store is a as good as dead and never got off the ground unfortuanetly. Just an offer. Im not sure if i can even help. just throwing it out there. it would be a shame to see such a brilliantly put together forum die because of something lame.

If hosting is an issue, i think i might be able to help. I have to foot the bill for my dead site anyways

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by Erik » Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:03 pm
OK I have some comments that I want to share about all that has happened...

Anyone who criticises Adam is a f u c k knuckle. However I don't blame you if you do, it's not your fault. Society has betrayed you, you woke up one day and realised all was a lie. Your belief system was destroyed and through this event you began to question everything. The phrase "why do I believe what I do? Why do I think what I do?" probably went through your head. You let go of everything and started analysing everything to reconstruct what was real and what was fake in the world.

How do I know? Because in 2006, I saw loose change 2nd edition. This caused me to go through what I described, I fell into a black whole of confusion, what was true, what wasn't?... However I have balanced out and have come to some conclusions that I hold to be true, but also open to new information, as we all should be.

Some of you have not balanced out and so you see "devils" and "satan worshippers" and "spooks" and whatever else... it can just get a bit stupid at times, calm down...

I've seen the attacks on Adam and I find them to be the most ignorant thing ever. Adam, just tell em all to get f u c ked and keep doing what you want to do. That's what I do when I butt heads with f u c kwits in the movement.

As for the cost of the Forum.... $150 a month? Crikey I host 10+ sites with forums etc.. costs me $9 a month.

Adam, keep in touch aye, you're a smart kid and don't let f u c kwits ruin your day.

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by Guan Thwei » Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:59 pm
How I see it:

If you, Adam, were some sort of activist leader, I'd probably call you and ask what's going on with these pics, well the background thing.
Just because there would be an uncertainty about safety.

But, you are the admin of an internet site, it doesn't matter what you do in your privat life, it doesn't have any effect on me.
Because it's on the internet, it can't physically harm me.

I say all we really need on these forums are guidelines of behaviour, to stop people from insulting/threatening others, without any penalties against them.

It's not right that someone sits behind his pc and insults anothers person intelligence etc. without any consequences.

The safety of the internet shouldn't allow such people to do whatever they please.

Yes, it is a censorship.....against INSULTS and THREATS.

If I really wanted to insult someone, call him names etc, I'd do that in a PM, and not in a public thread, just so I can get attention from the forummembers, try to make myself look soooo cool, or whatever reason people may have here.

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by TruthMirror » Sat Aug 15, 2009 5:52 pm
Its not going to help anyone to 'shut-down' down the site...

I really respect you Adam and what you have achieved in TMA however I believe that its not you doing more harm than good to TMA rather that its TMA (some members in particular) that is doing more harm than good to you. As you said you've achieved what you wanted by starting TMA.. and you have achieved allot. Its probably best for yourself that you dont let this get you down and bow out before it ruins all the good that you have created, from all these non-sense accusations. The problem is that these constant petty arguments and accusations against you regardless whether you did anything or not, has undermind the effectiveness of the forum to cooperate.

I agree you now need to appoint someone else and step back as the forum head of TMA and let someone else handle the burden of the forum ONLY because time is running out and we cant afford to have TMA members arguing with each other all day long about you. I think as a forum leader your ability to draw public awareness was your greatest achievement however I think its also what has allowed everyone to target you. I think you should remain as head of TMA in all other respects just let someone else handle the forum side of it to dilute all this mistrust, many hands make light work, joint control. Give away unanimous control to save the rest if you catch my drift, i dont think anyone could organise the meetups and speakers better than yourself (i loved the Icke presentation). Hopefully it may make the focus shift away from "attack adam davis" and get back to what the forum is about "sharing information".

Surely you would be just as able if not better able to contribute your immense talents to TMA when you dont have this sort of pressure on your shoulders. The last thing I would want is for you to turn away from TMA over this BS, because none of this is your fault, you did nothing wrong as far as I know. But I guess proof becomes irrelevant once people have made their mind up your guilty. Lighten the load for your own sake, not because others have it in for you.

Peace.

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by Calem Smith » Sat Aug 15, 2009 6:30 pm

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TruthMirror wrote:Its not going to help anyone to 'shut-down' down the site...

I really respect you Adam and what you have achieved in TMA however I believe that its not you doing more harm than good to TMA rather that its TMA (some members in particular) that is doing more harm than good to you. As you said you've achieved what you wanted by starting TMA.. and you have achieved allot. Its probably best for yourself that you dont let this get you down and bow out before it ruins all the good that you have created, from all these non-sense accusations. The problem is that these constant petty arguments and accusations against you regardless whether you did anything or not, has undermind the effectiveness of the forum to cooperate.

I agree you now need to appoint someone else and step back as the forum head of TMA and let someone else handle the burden of the forum ONLY because time is running out and we cant afford to have TMA members arguing with each other all day long about you. I think as a forum leader your ability to draw public awareness was your greatest achievement however I think its also what has allowed everyone to target you. I think you should remain as head of TMA in all other respects just let someone else handle the forum side of it to dilute all this mistrust, many hands make light work, joint control. Give away unanimous control to save the rest if you catch my drift, i dont think anyone could organise the meetups and speakers better than yourself (i loved the Icke presentation). Hopefully it may make the focus shift away from "attack adam davis" and get back to what the forum is about "sharing information".

Surely you would be just as able if not better able to contribute your immense talents to TMA when you dont have this sort of pressure on your shoulders. The last thing I would want is for you to turn away from TMA over this BS, because none of this is your fault, you did nothing wrong as far as I know. But I guess proof becomes irrelevant once people have made their mind up your guilty. Lighten the load for your own sake, not because others have it in for you.

Peace.
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Adam, Ive barely begun to know you, But you can still do so much. Pass the torch to a degree, but by the looks of it, the people who matter are behind you 100%

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by Adam » Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:07 pm
Let me make something clear here, I wish to leave because I feel that my skills have been put to good use with setting up this site, and forum however this is where my skills end. The above posts are an absolute example of why I feel that the Truth Movement will never have solidarity. There is simply no respect. People who feel that they know more than others, always end up putting the other person down in some way shape of form.

It is this elitist mindset that some people have that I believe needs to be addressed if the Truth Movement (not just this website which IS a grain of sand in the grand scheme of things) is to continue to grow.

The reason I am taking a complete back seat role is NOT because of personal attacks against me, if people look at my post history they can see that I have had people talking shit about me since I first started this website, I am used to such issues.

What has really got to me, is that fact that my little sister called me yesterday, crying on the phone saying someone messaged her on facebook and said 'You little Knights of Malta whore I should kill you'. When my family is starting to get abused because of my actions, its time to realise enough is enough.

People may speculate all they wish, I will not say my friends name for obvious reasons at this point. If you don't like it, tough. I completely understand why some people would have an issue with these pictures, and my honest reply is that I forgot about these pictures for a very long time, they were taken in 2007. I only learnt through Unmovable that the Knights had connections to some sinister plots in 2009. In between that a tma member reminded me of the photos, but I had no idea they would be an issue until now.

I believed that through Unity would come a solution. But what I now realise is that the Truth Movement is vast, and has a LOt of differing opinions. So without respect and trust for one another things can move knowhere.

There are those of you who became truth seekers because you felt that the world was insane, and through knowledge would come the understandings of the world, and through knowledge of the world comes self improvement and development. It is these people I respect in this movement, people who don't just think everything is out of their control, but realise that the only way to make change is to take some sort of action.

I've met people this year who I know will be my friends for life, and I appreciate them for who they are, and I hope that if I am nearby we can get together and talk. You know who you are and my door is always open to you.

However there are others that trust no'one apart from themselves, and will point the finger at everything and anything before pointing the finger at themselves.

I leave it in your hands, what do you wish for from TMA, I don't wish to destroy all the progress we have, but i'm sure that you would understand why I feel I have done my dash. If anything TMA can grow stronger with no decision maker, if the people who wish to respect one another come together to run it for the betterment of everyone else.

TMA is everyones, that is how I feel about it, its not mine, I don't feel ownership towards it. If people think I have this huge ego about it, so be it.

I was told once that only 5% of people will ever take action in their lives, and I'm learning that slowly.

Change hit the nail on the head, there are TWO Truth Movements, and thats the issue. One is dealing with the 'real world events' of government control and manipulation. And the other is a movement towards spiritual truths and mutual respect for everyone, and forgiveness towards those who wish us harm.

I'm not here to say which one is more important, but what I will say is that this website has become more about real world issues, and love and respect (at least on the forum) has almost entirely gone out the window, which isn't a surprise considering how easy it is to attack someone from behind a keyboard.

Peace

Adam.

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by Adam » Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:35 pm

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mr_anderson wrote:A bit of an over-reaction for those who asked genuine questions and only received general replies like it 'was a friend'.

I doubt this should be the moment you back away from TMA because of the chosen few you've chosen to listen to rather than the genuine questioners.

All I ask, as I can only speak for myself is more specifics of the get-up and if you really knew what the symbol meant and the implication of setting up a website dedicated to exposing secret societies? (Among other topics)

Wearing that robe and setting up this website will peak some interest and it's not fair that you play the victim and shy away from giving specifics.

You may be 100% correct that it's your friend's robe but that's all I've been given in way of a response so I do apologise for the bluntness of my post.
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you've made some fantastic points mate, however there is a bigger picture at play that you must understand, this isn't about this one issue, its about my realisation that there are some people out there who will take things too far, and threaten my family with little evidence to back them up. This is SCARY for me, and I hope you understand.

Adam.

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by TruthMirror » Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:01 pm

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Adam wrote:The above posts are an absolute example of why I feel that the Truth Movement will never have solidarity. There is simply no respect. People who feel that they know more than others, always end up putting the other person down in some way shape of form. It is this elitist mindset that some people have that I believe needs to be addressed
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I agree with what you say in reference to a minority in the movement in general but 'The above posts'??.... As in 'all' above posts?

...from what i could tell there were only two posters in this thread having a go at each other for whatever personal reasons, but other than that I thaught we were all quite respectfull, im not sure to whom youre referring...

Peace.

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by allyoops59 » Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:30 pm
People are very quick to judge and so often it ends up with criticisms and rudeness, so often I see this and it saddens me to see it on this site. Abuse is not the way to go here or anywhere. We are all here to be enlightened on what is really happening around the world and although we might not agree with everything we read or hear it does not give us the right to ridicule, that is anti-productive. Ask questions and then make your mind up and then choose to disagree if you want to and then move on, that is your right to do so.

I’ve been a member for a few months now and this is my first reply. I am in amazed of what has been discussed hear, things I had no idea about and it is thanks to everyone here.

I now feel I have to say something and that is I have made many mistakes in my life and I have a feeling everyone here has too and I bet we have all learned by them, well guess what, Adam didn’t make a mistake more of an error of judgement and guess what, we’ve all done those as well.

Adam you will always come across negative mined and abusive people but the good will always override them, I’m sorry to say, it’s the nature of human beings. Sometimes you just have to hang in there and let people have their say, the good the bad and the dam right ugly.

Sorry to have taken up so much of your time but before I go I hope Adam that you stay and I would like to thank you for all your hard work. I saw David Icke and just remember what he had to go through and he’s still here. We need to unite not separate.

allyoops59

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by moonchild73 » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:06 pm
Adam,

Please don't leave. I can understand you feeling this way. I think there are a few people that are jealous, unbalanced and full of righteousness all based on fear. I think you started TMA with a loving intention. I think you are made of sterner stuff. Surely you can just ban all these trouble makers. Either way please know you have my support.

I hope that the people that are making the trouble actually take a moment to look inside their hearts, be honest with themselves and realise they are making a big mistake.

Hugs and Love,
Moonchild73

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by mr_anderson » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:29 pm

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Adam wrote:What has really got to me, is that fact that my little sister called me yesterday, crying on the phone saying someone messaged her on facebook and said 'You little Knights of Malta whore I should kill you'. When my family is starting to get abused because of my actions, its time to realise enough is enough.

Adam.
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Well that's cointelpro dude, easy.

No doubt they have a presence on this board and scoping out the situation to find any vulnerabilities they can exploit and one is threats against family. It could be some mentally ill loser.. But I'd pursue that through the Police, I really would.

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Adam wrote:I completely understand why some people would have an issue with these pictures, and my honest reply is that I forgot about these pictures for a very long time, they were taken in 2007. I only learnt through Unmovable that the Knights had connections to some sinister plots in 2009. In between that a tma member reminded me of the photos, but I had no idea they would be an issue until now.
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That added a little more clarity, thankyou.

Yeah again Facebook has added profile security, I'd use it to guard against the stalkers and freaks.

mr_anderson

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by mr_anderson » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:33 pm

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Erik wrote:OK I have some comments that I want to share about all that has happened...

Anyone who criticises Adam is a f u c k knuckle. However I don't blame you if you do, it's not your fault. Society has betrayed you, you woke up one day and realised all was a lie. Your belief system was destroyed and through this event you began to question everything. The phrase "why do I believe what I do? Why do I think what I do?" probably went through your head. You let go of everything and started analysing everything to reconstruct what was real and what was fake in the world.

How do I know? Because in 2006, I saw loose change 2nd edition. This caused me to go through what I described, I fell into a black whole of confusion, what was true, what wasn't?... However I have balanced out and have come to some conclusions that I hold to be true, but also open to new information, as we all should be.

Some of you have not balanced out and so you see "devils" and "satan worshippers" and "spooks" and whatever else... it can just get a bit stupid at times, calm down...

I've seen the attacks on Adam and I find them to be the most ignorant thing ever. Adam, just tell em all to get f u c ked and keep doing what you want to do. That's what I do when I butt heads with f u c kwits in the movement.

As for the cost of the Forum.... $150 a month? Crikey I host 10+ sites with forums etc.. costs me $9 a month.

Adam, keep in touch aye, you're a smart kid and don't let f u c kwits ruin your day.
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Dude you seriously need to calm down, your sounding like an Obama / Bush supporter in your claim people can't criticise.

I asked legitimate questions whilst others went off on tangents and even one guy wanted a meetup about the issue *cough* It's a trap *cough*.

And Adam responded eventually with answers. It's all good.

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by Ree » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:43 pm
Adam

The first thing I'd like to say is...

I'm sorry for jumping the gun and assuming when I made the statement about your silence being louder than AJ's bullhorn. That was my bad, I apologize. :oops: Everyone's entitled to time out.
One of my faults is impatience when it comes down to finding out the truth and undiplomatic in my words in this regard.

I've always respected you and honestly think that your motives have been sincere and I still think that. As I've come to learn who you are over these months ( we do reveal who we are by what we say) I've thought, what a sweet young man, the type I want to gather under my wing so to speak.

What I needed to hear was your response and I was thinking about phoning you when you made the offer and I still may do but not before I say this publically, since this has been so public.
What you said in your post above explained a bit more, particularly this...

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I completely understand why some people would have an issue with these pictures, and my honest reply is that I forgot about these pictures for a very long time, they were taken in 2007. I only learnt through Unmovable that the Knights had connections to some sinister plots in 2009. In between that a tma member reminded me of the photos, but I had no idea they would be an issue until now.
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As has already been mentioned we have all done and said things we wished we had not of.
There's also the possibility you were set up to take the fall if things did not go according to plan.
One can never underestimate the enemy.

I'm saddened with the threat made to your sister, that's just crazyiness, hatred and spitefull and I do understand if you want to take more of a back seat. You haven't done your dash if you regret being in the order. It will be quite the conrtray if you are no longer in it's ranks.

Sincerely
Ree

PS..The disrespect and plain nastiness among members will tear up this site from the inside and the enemy wins.

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by mclmm-2 » Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:17 am
I'd like to sincerely apologise to the forum for the disrespect I displayed to Patrick and his ilk in the various threads. I have been accused many times of being a "blunt instrument" when it comes to interpersonal conflict and especially so when acting out of any sense of outrage at perceived "injustice". In hindsight, it's clear that words do echo and it's the intent behind them that creates or does damage.

I'm working on it.

Peace out.

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by Calem Smith » Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:25 am

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What has really got to me, is that fact that my little sister called me yesterday, crying on the phone saying someone messaged her on facebook and said 'You little Knights of Malta whore I should kill you'. When my family is starting to get abused because of my actions, its time to realise enough is enough.
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Say no more Adam. I look forwed to meeting you in the future.

If theres anything I can do for the TMA forum, I think its the Hosting issue.

Once again tho. I have no idea how this stuff works. So ill need someone to help me.

I also have a close friend who stands by the Truth Movement, who also set up my online store and handles all the techy stuff ive needed in the past. He knows php, c++ ect.

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by Erik » Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:13 am
Well....

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What has really got to me, is that fact that my little sister called me yesterday, crying on the phone saying someone messaged her on facebook and said 'You little Knights of Malta whore I should kill you'. When my family is starting to get abused because of my actions, its time to realise enough is enough.
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Mate, that's something to go to the police with straight away.

Mr Anderson...

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Dude you seriously need to calm down, your sounding like an Obama / Bush supporter in your claim people can't criticise.
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Ye mate, I'm a Bush / Obama supporter, nice one , niiiiiccceeee one.. :roll: As you know people can say anything, but to criticise someone for a made up fantasy is absurd

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by Reunite » Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:31 am
Adam don't give up.

You are young and I believe you didn't know the repercussions of dressing up as a knight. I hope you didn't take any of my comments as a personal attack. I would never inquire into someone's financial situation but since you publicly posted how much you have in the bank I saw a discrepancy of a successful businessman.

The truth movement needs to continue so a new shift in focus needs to be addressed. Yes this forum does need a restructure. No admin/moderator should ever post a member's personal info or photo's whether or not they have an unknown agenda. It's all speculation at this stage.

Adam I'm going to PM you for some protection techniques for you and your family.

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by mr_anderson » Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:11 pm

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Erik wrote:Well....

What has really got to me, is that fact that my little sister called me yesterday, crying on the phone saying someone messaged her on facebook and said 'You little Knights of Malta whore I should kill you'. When my family is starting to get abused because of my actions, its time to realise enough is enough.
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Mate, that's something to go to the police with straight away.

Mr Anderson...

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Dude you seriously need to calm down, your sounding like an Obama / Bush supporter in your claim people can't criticise.
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Ye mate, I'm a Bush / Obama supporter, nice one , niiiiiccceeee one.. :roll: As you know people can say anything, but to criticise someone for a made up fantasy is absurd.
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Erm sounding like one... You know the whole 'Can't criticise our President' type deal.

But asking questions of the pictures is fair and the answers Adam gave is equally fair.

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by Morganti » Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:17 pm

Ye mate, I'm a Bush / Obama supporter, nice one , niiiiiccceeee one.. :roll: As you know people can say anything, but to criticise someone for a made up fantasy is absurd.

He didn't say that, he said LIKE a Bush / Obama supporter, and I am sure you know what he meant.
The idea that anyone that critcizes Adam is a "fxxk .." is BULLSHIT.

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by Erik » Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:21 am
You know what? I've seen Adam get Attack from many different angles over the last few months and the only thing I see and smell is bullshit from the attackers.

I'm kind of sick of it to be honest. Being an investigative type of person, who knows what it means to be self employed and hard working, I would turn red when i heard bullshit about making money and intentions, it drove me made. Poor/ignorant idiots jelous and stupid people. Sums it up well...

So, if you think someone who's looked into all the facts and come up with a conclusion is "like" an Obama support then, good for you. And yes I did know that was the meaning.

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by Reunite » Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:44 am

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Erik wrote:You know what? I've seen Adam get Attack from many different angles over the last few months and the only thing I see and smell is bullshit from the attackers.

I'm kind of sick of it to be honest. Being an investigative type of person, who knows what it means to be self employed and hard working, I would turn red when i heard bullshit about making money and intentions, it drove me made. Poor/ignorant idiots jelous and stupid people. Sums it up well...

So, if you think someone who's looked into all the facts and come up with a conclusion is "like" an Obama support then, good for you. And yes I did know that was the meaning.
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I could pick apart your response concerning the grammer, spelling and the hypocrisy but I won't.

What I will suggest is to do some internal reflection and ask yourself why do you let others push your buttons so easily. Be the master of your own domain without snap judgements. Everyone is entitled to ask questions without being labeled by the numerous offensive names you so elegantly expressed.

I run my own forum and this is one of the guidelines.

"Respect to others is mandatory. Disagreeing beliefs are beneficial towards developing new ideas and discoveries however it is to be conducted in a respectable manner. This includes no rude or aggressive behavior, targeting individuals or petty name calling"

Very similar format to TMA concerning all related topics and close to 13,000 posts as well and I've only ever had to ban 1 person because a mutual and common understanding is reflected amongst all the members.

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by mr_anderson » Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:39 pm

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Erik wrote:You know what? I've seen Adam get Attack from many different angles over the last few months and the only thing I see and smell is bullshit from the attackers.

I'm kind of sick of it to be honest. Being an investigative type of person, who knows what it means to be self employed and hard working, I would turn red when i heard bullshit about making money and intentions, it drove me made. Poor/ignorant idiots jelous and stupid people. Sums it up well...

So, if you think someone who's looked into all the facts and come up with a conclusion is "like" an Obama support then, good for you. And yes I did know that was the meaning.
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Show me where I attacked Adam...

Your making no sense dude. I said you sound like an Obama / Bush supporter for saying any criticism of Adam is a person who is a f*** knuckle.

All your doing though is painting me with the same brush of the other people who have attacked Adam and allegedly threatened his family.

I'm not ignorant, jealous or stupid... I ask questions, demand answers. If you tell the truth nothing can touch your words.

And as I've said before a few times before, Adam has responded with fair answers. I'll take them at face value whether they be true or not... it's done, over. Time to move on.

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by mclmm-2 » Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:56 pm
Erik,

From my perspective, I saw mr-anderson as seeking info in order to make an informed choice. He didn't seem to be leaning one way or the other.

Peace out

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by Erik » Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:30 pm
I was speaking generally of the people criticising Adam, not anyone in particular.

As for my spelling and grammer, I'm slightly dyslexic so I type badly, mix up words etc..

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by jacksomc+ » Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:40 pm
Erik, your not alone l am the some, l generally have to edit my posts a fews times

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by zoo brick » Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:08 pm
Reunite,

Grammar.

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by change » Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:12 pm

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zoo brick wrote:Reunite,

Grammar.
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hahahaha!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: You gotta have a sense of humour in this world.

I got busted the same way earlier this year calling someone unintelligent whilst unwittingly spelling 'unintelligent' incorrectly.

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by Reunite » Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:33 pm
that's brilliant.. I deserved it

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by zoo brick » Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:02 pm
smile/laughter

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by Love For Life » Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:33 am

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Adam wrote:

mr_anderson wrote:A bit of an over-reaction for those who asked genuine questions and only received general replies like it 'was a friend'.

I doubt this should be the moment you back away from TMA because of the chosen few you've chosen to listen to rather than the genuine questioners.

All I ask, as I can only speak for myself is more specifics of the get-up and if you really knew what the symbol meant and the implication of setting up a website dedicated to exposing secret societies? (Among other topics)

Wearing that robe and setting up this website will peak some interest and it's not fair that you play the victim and shy away from giving specifics.

You may be 100% correct that it's your friend's robe but that's all I've been given in way of a response so I do apologise for the bluntness of my post.

you've made some fantastic points mate, however there is a bigger picture at play that you must understand, this isn't about this one issue, its about my realisation that there are some people out there who will take things too far, and threaten my family with little evidence to back them up. This is SCARY for me, and I hope you understand.

Adam.
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Adam,
Going back to 2005 when we went full-time searching for "remedy" (99% of the time being unpaid because we willingly do this Love For Life work as acts of love to benefit/inspire others), we have had all kinds of attempts on our lives or wellbeing including
three recent death threats,
attempts to run Arthur off the road,
one of our supporters being hog-tied (and his wife - both in their 70's) with bullet fired into his hip while both being terrorised/tormented for a few hours,
Arthur followed by what appeared to be two Federal Police (or ASIO) along the dangerous narrow very windy dirt-track road running along the side of the Snowy River for around 50 minutes or so from Suggan Buggan Vic to almost Ingebirah NSW with speeding Fed car trying to cause an unfortunate or fatal accident,
with 2 year old in her care Fiona's body being kidnapped by a very aggressive, abusive and nasty Police officer who later tried to terrorise Arthur in a haka like state for almost 10 minutes at the back of the police station,
experiencing a series of many police officers and sheriffs coming together to rape, pillage, plunder and terrorise us breaking all the laws they are supposed to uphold in the process,
over 4 years receiving thousands of emails (some phone calls) full of hatred, violence, abuse or wishing us dead or getting threats to take our children away etc etc etc etc.

The list of attacks goes on and on and on and on.

When you are determined to apply remedy as in Kindom, it becomes the greatest threat imaginable to the PTB. The thought of mass exodus from the fairytale that is the western world civilisation of commerce (of ancient egypt) unfolding out in the open as acts of love to benefit and inspire others (including the wider communities) is absolutely terrifying to the PTB.

The work of love (our intended energy/power of creation) is not completed until the covert, shadow spiderweb, freemasonic world of the British Empire (inc all houses of Europe), supposedly left behind after it retreated from an overt standing, has completely collapsed and is no more.

As these Do No Harm Communities (Kindoms) thrive and expand they sound the death knell to this evil fairytale that is a program of chaos (The Rules Of The Divide) that has caused ALL the destruction to the living dream of MANS co-creation.

We are now in pre-production of a 2 hour documentary that includes/encapsulates the remedy of Kindom. As mentioned in a previous/recent post, many of these heartfelt-inspired insights are discussed in the podcasts and video here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608 (scroll down to find them). The documentary is the culmination of all our work. We are shortly to move on to land to begin the first steps of co-creating Kindom with others who live this dream.

Lets not be the fox who thought it had crossed the stream, relaxed and got its tail wet . Every dream comes with full-responsibility and if we let go of this responsibility, regardless of the justifications and circumstances, the dream fades away and dies. Its all explained in the podcasts.

One of the common tactics of the freemasonic world is to build up hope and then smash what has been created into the faces of everyone involved. And the message.... we can't get together, we cant stand united, we remain weak, fragile, isolated individuals who remain easy pickings for the establishment to pick off.

They do not want us to remember who we really are and what we are part of because if we did we will co-create "COMMUNITY IMMUNITY".

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

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by Von Curtis » Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:50 am
Arthur , it is great all the good work you are doing to get out of this bad fairytale/nightmare we have been in for too long. i agree with what you say and are striving for but I find it hard to see how we can do no harm to plants and animals when we must eat to stay alive and healthy.
We look after our beef cattle very well here even though we have had awful droughts ( not by chance I don't believe) , my husband and son are very kind to animals all the time. We do sell them eventually and they do end up as steak , sausages , mince - and many people enjoy those types of food.

I think it is a bit unrealistic to cut out all meat. chicken, fish etc out of our diets and do no harm to anything.

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by starseed » Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:38 pm
Adam,

A friend just reminded me that when you hold something too tight, you kill it. I have been watchful of your tma movements and your personal progress along the way. I am astounded by your maturity and balance. I draw on my wisdom as an older woman, developed through a lifetime of experiences that I hope no one else ever has to endure when I say to you: I admire your grace Adam and your ability to let go. The biggest gift you can give someone is giving them back to themselves, maybe what some members need. As for the dual paths of the movement, I believe all paths lead to the same destination, but some are a little less laborious, which I believe is the path you I have both taken.

Namaste Adam.

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by Love For Life » Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:51 am

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starseed wrote:Adam,

A friend just reminded me that when you hold something too tight, you kill it. I have been watchful of your tma movements and your personal progress along the way. I am astounded by your maturity and balance. I draw on my wisdom as an older woman, developed through a lifetime of experiences that I hope no one else ever has to endure when I say to you: I admire your grace Adam and your ability to let go. The biggest gift you can give someone is giving them back to themselves, maybe what some members need. As for the dual paths of the movement, I believe all paths lead to the same destination, but some are a little less laborious, which I believe is the path you I have both taken.

Namaste Adam.
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Dear Starseed
A dream only lives as long as the energy/power of our creation is put into it. Without our energy/power of creation the dream fades away until it is no more. Relationships/partnerships are dreams. Our babies, our children, our families, our communities/tribes/villages are dreams as well.

Creation (life) is a dream of co-creation, of partnership. Community is a dream of co-creation but unfortunately almost no longer exists anymore because MAN has fallen from the dream of co-creation in preference to surviving fictitious stories of a fictitious self invented/imagined out-of-thin-air which keeps he/she apart from others, rendering him/her incapable of creating dreams of co-creation.

Most men and women have a trail of broken dreams behind them because they have not taken full responsibility for those dreams.

When we no longer put our energy into our relationships, families, communities, etc, they are destroyed. When we take full-responsibility for our dreams, we act as gifts of love to those dreams, co-creating the acts of love that keep those dreams alive. Beliefs keep us acting for our SELVES, apart from others and unable to be the gifts of love that take responsibility for our dreams.

While we are conscious of our dreams we nurture them; when we become unconscious, we neglect our responsibilities to our dreams which means we destroy them.

MAN fell from consciousness because of a shift in focus. The shift in consciousness, a term so widely used these days but rarely comprehended by anyone of its true meaning is ONLY just a shift in focus. Being conscious of our living-dreams has us be fully responsible and accountable to DO NO HARM to our living-dreams of co-creation.

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

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Von Curtis wrote:Arthur, it is great all the good work you are doing to get out of this bad fairytale/nightmare we have been in for too long. i agree with what you say and are striving for but I find it hard to see how we can do no harm to plants and animals when we must eat to stay alive and healthy.
We look after our beef cattle very well here even though we have had awful droughts ( not by chance I don't believe) , my husband and son are very kind to animals all the time. We do sell them eventually and they do end up as steak , sausages , mince - and many people enjoy those types of food.
I think it is a bit unrealistic to cut out all meat. chicken, fish etc out of our diets and do no harm to anything.
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Hello Von Curtis
No creature with consciousness embodied (warm or cold blooded) has ever given its permission to be killed by MAN, have its consciousness removed by MAN to become dead corpses that are eaten by MAN.

If you believe they do so, then why the hunt, why the traps, why the spears, arrows, boomerangs, guns, knives and other man-made implements of death?

Why doesn't the consciousness of any creature just willingly lay down before you and die???????

Being conscious of our living-dreams has us be fully responsible and accountable to DO NO HARM to our living-dreams of co-creation. Have we not forsaken our responsibilities of co-creation by capturing animals, enclosing animals and then rounding them up and killing them. Where is the co-creation in these acts? Where is the willing co-operation of the animals?

As a 15 year old Arthur worked as an apprentice butcher for 6 months and then in a abattoir for a few weeks until he could no longer stand the suffering of the animals arriving, their stress, trauma and conscious-sense that they were about to die being only too obvious as they tried to get away.

Our beliefs may tell us that its alright to kill animals because we have some god given right to do so but has anyone asked the animals?

ALL beliefs are apparitions that act as demons of possession (possesSION/ZION) that covet the consciousness of MAN so that MAN forgets who he/she really is and what he/she is really part of. ALL beliefs become the distractions that are the shift in focus which cause MAN to fall from consciousness down and down and down into a state of unconsciousness. In a state of unconsciousness a fallen man/woman will do harm and have a series of justifications in place to support the harm doing (destruction/murder/genocide/rape/pillage/plunder/greed/selfishness/power/control/arrogance/ignorance/righteousness etc).

We are meant to eat, drink & breathe the fruits of labour (GIFTS) co-created by the conscious-living creatures (inanimate or not) of creation (GIFTS), of co-creation, without doing harm to the co-creators of their fruits of labour (GIFTS). And we don't meant the offspring of any flesh and blood creature. Both the creators and their creations are GIFTS and we are not meant to do harm to any GIFT of creation. MAN is a conscious-living raw/living food eater who does not cook food or water and who eats berries, fruits, nuts, weeds, vegetables etc that are freshly picked from their food forests/gardens ideally moments before. When we cook/boil/process etc food and water we destroy the GIFTS of creation (enzymes, nutrients etc) they have to offer. Consciousness is the information of creation and when we destroy that living-information (conscious-living DNA), the food becomes lifeless (unconscious strands of dna) and even harmful to us.

Consciousness means MANS eating, drinking and breathing are GIFTS of co-creation that DO NO HARM to the fabric of the conscious-living dream of creation that we are. But when we are unconscious we are doing harm to the conscious-living dream of creation.

Every act of love created by MAN is a thread (a gift) that weaves into the fabric of creation (life), that is a wave that expands the consciousness of creation that WE ARE. Every act of harm-doing unthreads man from the fabric of creation, meaning both MAN and MANS creation are fading away until it has been completely forgotten about (dies).

It's in remembering who we really are and what we are really part of that stops us doing harm to the LIFE of the dream of MAN, otherwise the dream of MAN will be destroyed. Killing creatures without their permission is part of the destruction to the living dream of creation that WE ARE. Only when we start taking full-responsibility for every thought, feeling and action are we able to rescue the dream of MANS creation from utter oblivion.

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

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by Von Curtis » Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:48 am
One battle at a time and step by step I think Arthur - first we have to survive and wind back the fascist/ communist attack on all of us and survive the weather war on us as The Watcher says on http://www.911oz.com/vbulletin/showthre ... #post27270
'Perhaps NASA can't afford to acknowledge that it cannot go to the moon at all, let alone 'return'. Imagine what would happen if the whole 'civilian exploration' facade of NASA were to crumble, exposing what lies beneath; a military operation aimed at complete control of the earth via satellite technology and space based weapons. The militarisation of space cloaked beneath 'the innate curiosity of mankind'.'
For now , as farmers we will keep looking after our animals to the best of our ability as we have been doing over 24 years here through droughts and floods until this extreme globalisation is turned around.
We would not still be here unless we were hardy and resillient .

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by Lucius » Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:18 pm

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Adam wrote:I realise now that I am doing the Truth Movement more harm than good from running this forum and trying to put on events. Because of this I will be leaving TMA in the hands of people who you trust.

I don't know who that is, and because of that I would like you to vote for who should take over TMA.

TMA gets roughly 40 - 60 emails per day that will need to be answered to, I find this hard myself, so if someone wants to volunteer to help the person who takes over this will help.

I've also organised for Jordan Maxwell and Peter Joseph to come out sometime this year, so someone can either take the reigns and run these events, or I will tell them its cancelled. Please let me know asap for their sakes.

A complete revamp of Admins is also possible if you wish.

The site costs around $150 a month to run and you will need to host it, I also use iContact for sending out emails to the database of roughly 2000 truth seekers Australia wide.

For those that understand why I won't keep 'defending' myself, thank you for the good times on this thread, I am happy to still post and contribute to meet ups where possible.

Where to from here for me? I'm going to focus on helping Tomorrows Youth Australia and other fantastic organisations like Lifeline, and focus on become more self sustainable.

Thanks everyone, please post your votes.

Adam.
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A small victory for logic and reason. Lets hope that others follow this example.

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by Lucius » Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:20 pm

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change wrote:

jacksomc+ wrote:change, there is one difference between you and Adam, you talk about something, and Adam has acted, he has walked the talk.
If you don't like what's on the site why do you bother with it.

Now why would come out with a spastic retarded comment like that jacksomc? I have a vision you arsehole, I just don't know how to connect with like minded people, that's why I came to this site.
Fu.ck you, you apathetic retard. If every one sat around like you trying to suck Adams cock and saying how he is doing such a wonderful job then this place will surely die.
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by Naomi - 9-11 Truth » Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:11 pm
Just wasted an hour of my life trawling through the Adam in Fancy Dress crap. Big deal.

The only thing parts worth noting are the threat against Adam's sister (maybe worth going to the police) and the quickness that some TMA members turned against Adam on the basis of nothing. Unfortunately there are childish morons on all truther forums.

Adam has my total respect. This website has been a great success in such a short time and the Icke event was fantastic. I have met some awesome truthers through TMA and while I don't post a lot (lost interest after the 911oz v. TMA drama earlier this year) I enjoy this website regularly.

Please reconsider Adam. You would be a great loss to the "Truth Movement" and I say that as a 9/11 Truther and member of 911oz. I know others at 911oz who feel the same.

Thanks to TMA for putting the Icke event on Youtube. Reminded me again of how well run the event was. The filming and audio are perfect. Congratulations!

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by change » Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:10 pm

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Naomi - 9-11 Truth wrote:
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I only just realised it is now on youtube, cheers. As much as I think david Icke is a fruit loop, I still find him strangely interesting and valid.The audio and lighting for the show is first rate. The guy pointing the spotlight at David sure had his work cut out for him, David doesn't stop moving!

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by keech » Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:02 pm

Adam
Thankyou for the great work you've done in creating this site. I only started visiting it a few months ago and have found so much information of value.

You are an inspirational young man. The forum comments by some at times have been disappointing and there are always those who have no focus except to be petty & sit back and criticize. There is so much action that is required in getting the truth out there and you have been instrumental in taking action with the TMA website.

I too think you should stay with TMA but have someone else moderate the forum. Don't let the critics defeat you. There will always be critics and unfortunately when something negative is said over and over again then some people believe it...you know the saying 'muds sticks'. That's life.
Just stick to your truths & protect yourself spiritually.

The threat made to your sister should definitely be reported.

Websites such as this will attract the sinister types; as well as those seeking truth, peace and awareness.

keech

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by Love For Life » Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:28 pm

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Von Curtis wrote:One battle at a time and step by step I think Arthur - first we have to survive and wind back the fascist/ communist attack on all of us and survive the weather war on us as The Watcher says on http://www.911oz.com/vbulletin/showthre ... #post27270
'Perhaps NASA can't afford to acknowledge that it cannot go to the moon at all, let alone 'return'. Imagine what would happen if the whole 'civilian exploration' facade of NASA were to crumble, exposing what lies beneath; a military operation aimed at complete control of the earth via satellite technology and space based weapons. The militarisation of space cloaked beneath 'the innate curiosity of mankind'.'
For now , as farmers we will keep looking after our animals to the best of our ability as we have been doing over 24 years here through droughts and floods until this extreme globalisation is turned around.
We would not still be here unless we were hardy and resillient .
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Hello Von Curtis,
You are right that we cannot do everything at once but all our steps need to be towards a Do No Harm lifestyle. Anything other than a Do No Harm lifestyle is a destructive lifestyle (deathstyle) and a continuation of everything we are dealing with now.

ALL CIVILISATIONS OF COMMERCE ARE APOCALYPTIC BY DESIGN

We have not been vegetarian for long (a couple of years) and became so because we could not escape the fact that eating meat causes harm to animals, many of which go through immense suffering throughout their lives as well as at the time of their death, even though there are also those, like yours, that are well cared for until their execution. Have you ever done some research on what really goes on in abattoirs?

Giving up eating meat (whether cold turkey or gradually) is an easy step towards Do No Harm that anyone can do NOW.

The problem is that most of us have some part of the fiction (fairytale) that we don't really want to give up, even though we can see/feel the destruction it is causing. When we are unwilling to give up the fiction, our intent being to hold onto it and protect it, we are maintaining the destruction. Commerce/Money, lots, plots, ALL belief systems, democracy, constitution, insurance, man-made laws/statutes, race, culture, creed, ALL esoterics and occults, cooked/processed/altered/manipulated/artificial food, water, shelter, energy, transport and education are some of the many deathstyles of fiction we worship.

It all comes down to our intent; if our intent is to move away from doing harm completely, we will find and apply remedy, even though we may still use the fiction along the way as we quickly learn how to live without doing harm. However if our intent is to hold onto some part of the fiction while getting rid of other parts of it, we will never find remedy because ALL fiction is destruction to creation and while we have fiction we have destruction.

The fiction is the beast of the apocalypse and we are maintaining the beast and fuelling the fires of the apocalypse with the energy/power of our creation we put into the beast. Yes, it is going to take some sacrifice from all of us and yes it is going to be painful at times because we are addicted to the fiction, both physically, mentally and psychologically just as surely as a heroin addict is addicted to heroin.

And we don't have much time. With the Establishment increasing the speed of their preparations for global eugenics and the earth (the true body of MAN) preparing to cleanse itself (Earths Fever) if we don't do the job, we don't have time to pick and choose which bit of destruction to maintain and which to give up.

It's time to let go, let go, let go, let go of the fairytale. There is no part of the fairytale we can use to heal another part of the fairytale. Everything of the fairytale is a dead-corpse (a man-made con-struct imagined/invented out-of-thin-air) unable to provide remedy for the living.

Only in the living can we find remedy.

It may seem daunting, but how exciting to have the opportunity to turn the tide of destruction and return the earth (the true body of MAN) to the paradise of KINDOM it was dreamed to be.

Conscious Love Always
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

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by change » Fri Aug 21, 2009 2:10 pm

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Luv $ life Wrote:
And we don't have much time. With the Establishment increasing the speed of their preparations for global eugenics and the earth (the true body of MAN) preparing to cleanse itself (Earths Fever) if we don't do the job, we don't have time to pick and choose which bit of destruction to maintain and which to give up.
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So the earth is competing with the NWO to see who can wipe out humanity first? Sounds like the planet is out of control and needs to be taught a lesson courtesy of the human race it built to house.

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by Von Curtis » Fri Aug 21, 2009 2:22 pm
ITs going to be a long long long long time before the Asian , Arab, African people etc stop eating a little meat in their diets - they haven't done any large scale harm on earth. By the way I only eat a little meat in my diet. I think a lot of western people could cut back a lot on meat.

First things first - first we have to face up to the BIG LIES that have gone on in the 20th century such as this person said in their comment on http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2009/ ... verywhere/

' This is the point that needs to be made. When you say that we cannot accept the fact that we were duped about WW2 — boy, that is a mouthful of truth. WW2 has been glorified, glamorized, legitimized, and even been made into a symbol of our identity. But cracks are appearing — Buchanen’s popular book (The Unnecessary War)is just one example. It’s a tough nut to crack, but crack it must.'

We were duped then and we still cannot seem to accept that fact today.

'The Nazi era in Germany lasted but 12 years and in that time it was a regime, a movement that was for a brief moment able to win a round in the heavyweight contest between evil and good, and I mean that the Nazis were the “good” guys. The Nazis actually had the audacity to challenge the Zionist beast and made them stagger, go down for the count and taste their own blood. Too bad it was not Herzl, Weizmann or the Warburgs that suffered the blows but their largely innocent brethren who took the blame and the fall. And despite that, they still got their false state of Israel.'

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by change » Fri Aug 21, 2009 2:35 pm
The problem is Von, these new'new-agers believe that the earth is one interconnected life system of which no one creature is above. The honest happy conservative christian approach says that man exists above creation and as such the earth and it's bounty are ours to enjoy. If we feel like cow for dinner then that is ok, the cows were created just for us to turn into hamburgers or pot roasts, there is no moral dilemma. Chicken anyone?...off with the head!

The barbarian eugenicist's job is to convince us that we are just another species on the planet which is a pest and needs to be 'managed' accordingly.

I see a blur between everything we are against and luv4lifes doctrines. I'm not having a go at luv4life BTW, I am just singling out some of his writings which seem quite commonplace these days. He is probably a nice guy.

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by mclmm-2 » Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:20 pm
I've been weaning myself off meat and hope to go mainly vegan in the near future. It's been hard because I love steak, roasts, bacon, and even lips and bums sausages and salami. It's not because I can't bear to see any other sentient creature as a food source - that's part of the natural balance, but rather it was a tactical decision. I hope that you never understand my reasoning. :shock:

Interesting points about WWII Von.

As we all know, history was written by the victors. I hope I don't provoke any sense of outrage here. I have served, and I come from a family with a long tradition of military service dating back to the Sudan campaign of the 1880s. My current career revolves around telling the stories of WWII veterans, including former POWs of the Japanese.

I have nothing but the utmost respect for those Diggers, Pussers and Blue Orchids who put themselves into harm's way fighting the evil that was Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. I just happen to think that WWII was fully orchestrated by TPTB. "Civilised" coalitions versus "pariah" states.

Here's the scenario:

Germany - The Weimar Republic is a shambles. The nazis come along and IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GREAT DEPRESSION, drag their nation kicking and screaming back to economic prosperity. Unfortunately, their leader was a whackjob and his economic ideas pissed off TPTB because it meant they got a smaller slice of the pie. Germany reacts to economic pressures by annexing various parcels of land and soon everyone declares war on everyone else. So how did Germany manage to throw off the yoke of TPTB in the first place? Their whackjob leader was not one of the Elite. Interestingly, he appears to have been aware of the methodologies of the Elite because he started implementing them himself.

Japan - Japan is racist. It thinks that it deserves the resources that the various gaijin are greedily keeping to themselves in their colonies. Japan takes out a big part of China and makes overtures towards the southern areas. Things heat up diplomatically. Countries such as the US try to starve the resource-poor Japanse Islands by cutting off supplies of oil, steel, coal, wheat and rubber. Japan is in danger of becoming an economic backwater and not able to implement its stated aim of developing and ruling the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere. Japan was essentially forced into the Pacific War by sanctions. Japan, being a relatively new state in the modern sense has not yet been usurped by TPTB. Japan's leaders were not part of the Elite. In war the Japanese were animals, but I firmly believe they were gently nudged towards their conquest of the Pacific by TPTB, so that they could be destroyed as a military threat.

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by mr_anderson » Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:49 pm

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Love For Life wrote:

Von Curtis wrote:One battle at a time and step by step I think Arthur - first we have to survive and wind back the fascist/ communist attack on all of us and survive the weather war on us as The Watcher says on http://www.911oz.com/vbulletin/showthre ... #post27270
'Perhaps NASA can't afford to acknowledge that it cannot go to the moon at all, let alone 'return'. Imagine what would happen if the whole 'civilian exploration' facade of NASA were to crumble, exposing what lies beneath; a military operation aimed at complete control of the earth via satellite technology and space based weapons. The militarisation of space cloaked beneath 'the innate curiosity of mankind'.'
For now , as farmers we will keep looking after our animals to the best of our ability as we have been doing over 24 years here through droughts and floods until this extreme globalisation is turned around.
We would not still be here unless we were hardy and resillient .
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Hello Von Curtis,
You are right that we cannot do everything at once but all our steps need to be towards a Do No Harm lifestyle. Anything other than a Do No Harm lifestyle is a destructive lifestyle (deathstyle) and a continuation of everything we are dealing with now.

ALL CIVILISATIONS OF COMMERCE ARE APOCALYPTIC BY DESIGN

We have not been vegetarian for long (a couple of years) and became so because we could not escape the fact that eating meat causes harm to animals, many of which go through immense suffering throughout their lives as well as at the time of their death, even though there are also those, like yours, that are well cared for until their execution. Have you ever done some research on what really goes on in abattoirs?

Giving up eating meat (whether cold turkey or gradually) is an easy step towards Do No Harm that anyone can do NOW.

The problem is that most of us have some part of the fiction (fairytale) that we don't really want to give up, even though we can see/feel the destruction it is causing. When we are unwilling to give up the fiction, our intent being to hold onto it and protect it, we are maintaining the destruction. Commerce/Money, lots, plots, ALL belief systems, democracy, constitution, insurance, man-made laws/statutes, race, culture, creed, ALL esoterics and occults, cooked/processed/altered/manipulated/artificial food, water, shelter, energy, transport and education are some of the many deathstyles of fiction we worship.

It all comes down to our intent; if our intent is to move away from doing harm completely, we will find and apply remedy, even though we may still use the fiction along the way as we quickly learn how to live without doing harm. However if our intent is to hold onto some part of the fiction while getting rid of other parts of it, we will never find remedy because ALL fiction is destruction to creation and while we have fiction we have destruction.

The fiction is the beast of the apocalypse and we are maintaining the beast and fuelling the fires of the apocalypse with the energy/power of our creation we put into the beast. Yes, it is going to take some sacrifice from all of us and yes it is going to be painful at times because we are addicted to the fiction, both physically, mentally and psychologically just as surely as a heroin addict is addicted to heroin.

And we don't have much time. With the Establishment increasing the speed of their preparations for global eugenics and the earth (the true body of MAN) preparing to cleanse itself (Earths Fever) if we don't do the job, we don't have time to pick and choose which bit of destruction to maintain and which to give up.

It's time to let go, let go, let go, let go of the fairytale. There is no part of the fairytale we can use to heal another part of the fairytale. Everything of the fairytale is a dead-corpse (a man-made con-struct imagined/invented out-of-thin-air) unable to provide remedy for the living.

Only in the living can we find remedy.

It may seem daunting, but how exciting to have the opportunity to turn the tide of destruction and return the earth (the true body of MAN) to the paradise of KINDOM it was dreamed to be.

Conscious Love Always
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
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"Population, consumption, technology, development, and the environment are linked in complex relationships that bear closely on human welfare in the global neighbourhood. Their effective and equitable management calls for a systemic, long-term, global approach guided by the principle of sustainable development, which has been the central lesson from the mounting ecological dangers of recent times. Its universal application is a priority among the tasks of global governance."

- United Nations Our Global Neighborhood 1995

I want to eat meat, have a system of government, capitalism, shelter, energy and transport. However all of those are manipulated to benefit others and that's where people go wrong. They blame the institution rather than seeing the bigger picture that the manipulators are ruining the institution by design to usher in a new form of governance. World Governance, not government, that mandates sustainable development through one child policies, Agenda 21 with 99% of the Earth off-limits to humans, shoved into compact mega-cities with a strict diet with no meat and we're all taught 'we are one'.

Just need to take one look at the Venus project... (rolling eyes)

mr anderson

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by Von Curtis » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:05 pm
'The honest happy conservative christian approach says that man exists above creation and as such the earth and it's bounty are ours to enjoy'
I must be a bit like that with my old presbyterian upbringing sitting in church bored to tears, giggling up the back but some of it must have got in.
Its all very interesting and I don't know whether we are above creation - I love creation so I am happy to be a part of it.
I don't want to work in an abbatoir , my husband went through one once and he said he would find it very depressing if he had to work there.
Should we be breeding animals when most of them do end up at the abbatoir , I don't know but we are not just going to stop right now as there is definitely a big attack on the Australian beef industry to wipe it out instantly.
That stupid add they run on SBS about cows killing the planet is stupid and boring. I believe that big flood up north that killed a huge number of cattle may have been done by weather warfare.
We will get the LIES sorted out first and kill this global governance vile idea first and then we will decide whether we should have meat in out diet.

Brzezinski recently said “there is a massive global political awakening that is interfering with our plans”

A better world dawns – be sure.

http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2009/08/20/%e2%80%9cnazis%e2%80%9d-her...

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by Von Curtis » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:19 pm
There have been so many lies about Germany and Japan mclmm-2 it is hard to tell if your scenarios are close to the truth , they may be right I don't know - all I know is what we have been taught at school and in the media about WW1 and 2 is not right as are the corporate wars in Iraq and the Taliban and Al Queda , and the false flags and terrorism not right.

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by change » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:30 pm

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mr_anderson wrote:
"Population, consumption, technology, development, and the environment are linked in complex relationships that bear closely on human welfare in the global neighbourhood. Their effective and equitable management calls for a systemic, long-term, global approach guided by the principle of sustainable development, which has been the central lesson from the mounting ecological dangers of recent times. Its universal application is a priority among the tasks of global governance."

- United Nations Our Global Neighborhood 1995

I want to eat meat, have a system of government, capitalism, shelter, energy and transport. However all of those are manipulated to benefit others and that's where people go wrong. They blame the institution rather than seeing the bigger picture that the manipulators are ruining the institution by design to usher in a new form of governance. World Governance, not government, that mandates sustainable development through one child policies, Agenda 21 with 99% of the Earth off-limits to humans, shoved into compact mega-cities with a strict diet with no meat and we're all taught 'we are one'.

Just need to take one look at the Venus project...
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oooooh yuck! the venus project! "oh but living in those collectivist Fresco Prisons would be so liberating"...hahahahah :lol: :lol: :lol:

I concur with you mr.anderson...our infrastructure and way of life is fundamentally sound, we just need to weed out the mongrels who have hijacked the system. To use a really cliche it is 'like throwing the baby out with the bathwater'.
By the way, I'm so bored of that disgusting word 'sustainable', it has no place in this world bar a UN climate change propaganda meeting, the mods here should ban members on the spot for using the word IMRO.

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by Von Curtis » Fri Aug 21, 2009 5:13 pm
Yeah talk about HI-JACKED - the ABC TV and radio , SBS ,the rest of TV/radio , The Australian and the rest of newspapers , agricultural and farm organisations , the green movement WWF etc , religions , all political parties , much of big buisness . that's just a few and there's more .........

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by Soxism » Fri Aug 21, 2009 5:39 pm
Just Read this Whole Thread, VERY sad to hear, this Site Has so much potential, and if i could afford to take over the Hosting, I Would, Plain n simple.

I dissapear for two weeks, and a shit storm has occurred.

The Sad thing is, that, when truth is told, Its always going to be the truth, groups of people dont like that and resort to tactics like Smear, and Threats.

But Good thing is, More people are being coming aware of the Truth, Day by Day, and you can never Hide the Truth forever.

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by mynameisnobody » Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:54 pm
Hi Adam.

Don’t know how this came about, just wanted to say, stick with it, don’t leave. I know exactly how you feel having had my family threatened about two years ago. It shakes you up bad and cuts you to the bone but most times threats are nothing more than nasty words.

It will most likely pass uneventful.

A few have written that you should go to the police. I did when my family where threatened. This much I can tell you. THE POLICE ARE USELESS! They will do nothing. They will tell you they can’t do anything till something happened.

So don’t waste your time.

What ever you decide God be with you.

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by mr_anderson » Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:53 pm

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mynameisnobody wrote:Hi Adam.

Don’t know how this came about, just wanted to say, stick with it, don’t leave. I know exactly how you feel having had my family threatened about two years ago. It shakes you up bad and cuts you to the bone but most times threats are nothing more than nasty words.

It will most likely pass uneventful.

A few have written that you should go to the police. I did when my family where threatened. This much I can tell you. THE POLICE ARE USELESS! They will do nothing. They will tell you they can’t do anything till something happened.

So don’t waste your time.

What ever you decide God be with you.
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Well it's by a case by case basis so I would go the Police for any threats against life, it's kinda of a crime. :|

Adam, let us know what the Police say.

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by Love For Life » Sat Aug 22, 2009 4:41 pm

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mr_anderson wrote:

Love For Life wrote:

Von Curtis wrote:One battle at a time and step by step I think Arthur - first we have to survive and wind back the fascist/ communist attack on all of us and survive the weather war on us as The Watcher says on http://www.911oz.com/vbulletin/showthre ... #post27270
'Perhaps NASA can't afford to acknowledge that it cannot go to the moon at all, let alone 'return'. Imagine what would happen if the whole 'civilian exploration' facade of NASA were to crumble, exposing what lies beneath; a military operation aimed at complete control of the earth via satellite technology and space based weapons. The militarisation of space cloaked beneath 'the innate curiosity of mankind'.'
For now , as farmers we will keep looking after our animals to the best of our ability as we have been doing over 24 years here through droughts and floods until this extreme globalisation is turned around.
We would not still be here unless we were hardy and resillient .
-------------------------

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Hello Von Curtis,
You are right that we cannot do everything at once but all our steps need to be towards a Do No Harm lifestyle. Anything other than a Do No Harm lifestyle is a destructive lifestyle (deathstyle) and a continuation of everything we are dealing with now.

ALL CIVILISATIONS OF COMMERCE ARE APOCALYPTIC BY DESIGN

We have not been vegetarian for long (a couple of years) and became so because we could not escape the fact that eating meat causes harm to animals, many of which go through immense suffering throughout their lives as well as at the time of their death, even though there are also those, like yours, that are well cared for until their execution. Have you ever done some research on what really goes on in abattoirs?

Giving up eating meat (whether cold turkey or gradually) is an easy step towards Do No Harm that anyone can do NOW.

The problem is that most of us have some part of the fiction (fairytale) that we don't really want to give up, even though we can see/feel the destruction it is causing. When we are unwilling to give up the fiction, our intent being to hold onto it and protect it, we are maintaining the destruction. Commerce/Money, lots, plots, ALL belief systems, democracy, constitution, insurance, man-made laws/statutes, race, culture, creed, ALL esoterics and occults, cooked/processed/altered/manipulated/artificial food, water, shelter, energy, transport and education are some of the many deathstyles of fiction we worship.

It all comes down to our intent; if our intent is to move away from doing harm completely, we will find and apply remedy, even though we may still use the fiction along the way as we quickly learn how to live without doing harm. However if our intent is to hold onto some part of the fiction while getting rid of other parts of it, we will never find remedy because ALL fiction is destruction to creation and while we have fiction we have destruction.

The fiction is the beast of the apocalypse and we are maintaining the beast and fuelling the fires of the apocalypse with the energy/power of our creation we put into the beast. Yes, it is going to take some sacrifice from all of us and yes it is going to be painful at times because we are addicted to the fiction, both physically, mentally and psychologically just as surely as a heroin addict is addicted to heroin.

And we don't have much time. With the Establishment increasing the speed of their preparations for global eugenics and the earth (the true body of MAN) preparing to cleanse itself (Earths Fever) if we don't do the job, we don't have time to pick and choose which bit of destruction to maintain and which to give up.

It's time to let go, let go, let go, let go of the fairytale. There is no part of the fairytale we can use to heal another part of the fairytale. Everything of the fairytale is a dead-corpse (a man-made con-struct imagined/invented out-of-thin-air) unable to provide remedy for the living.

Only in the living can we find remedy.

It may seem daunting, but how exciting to have the opportunity to turn the tide of destruction and return the earth (the true body of MAN) to the paradise of KINDOM it was dreamed to be.

Conscious Love Always
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
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"Population, consumption, technology, development, and the environment are linked in complex relationships that bear closely on human welfare in the global neighbourhood. Their effective and equitable management calls for a systemic, long-term, global approach guided by the principle of sustainable development, which has been the central lesson from the mounting ecological dangers of recent times. Its universal application is a priority among the tasks of global governance."

- United Nations Our Global Neighborhood 1995

I want to eat meat, have a system of government, capitalism, shelter, energy and transport. However all of those are manipulated to benefit others and that's where people go wrong. They blame the institution rather than seeing the bigger picture that the manipulators are ruining the institution by design to usher in a new form of governance. World Governance, not government, that mandates sustainable development through one child policies, Agenda 21 with 99% of the Earth off-limits to humans, shoved into compact mega-cities with a strict diet with no meat and we're all taught 'we are one'.

Just need to take one look at the Venus project... :roll:
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Von Curtis wrote:'The honest happy conservative christian approach says that man exists above creation and as such the earth and it's bounty are ours to enjoy'
I must be a bit like that with my old presbyterian upbringing sitting in church bored to tears, giggling up the back but some of it must have got in.
Its all very interesting and I don't know whether we are above creation - I love creation so I am happy to be a part of it.
I don't want to work in an abbatoir , my husband went through one once and he said he would find it very depressing if he had to work there.
Should we be breeding animals when most of them do end up at the abbatoir , I don't know but we are not just going to stop right now as there is definitely a big attack on the Australian beef industry to wipe it out instantly.
That stupid add they run on SBS about cows killing the planet is stupid and boring. I believe that big flood up north that killed a huge number of cattle may have been done by weather warfare.
We will get the LIES sorted out first and kill this global governance vile idea first and then we will decide whether we should have meat in out diet.

Brzezinski recently said “there is a massive global political awakening that is interfering with our plans”

A better world dawns – be sure.

http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2009/08/20/%e2%80%9cnazis%e2%80%9d-her...
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We poison the water and we feel it.
We poison the air and we feel it.
We poison the soil and we feel it.
We destroy the forests, the rivers, the mountains, the seas, the atmosphere etc and we feel it.
We witness the death of animals and we feel it.

And if we didn't have senses to feel the experiences we would have no sense, no comprehension of what we are part of and therefore would not know who we really are. The suffering we feel with the Earth and MAN is the suffering we are experiencing with our true body of life. Why else are men, women and children fighting to clean the water, air, soil, food, atmosphere etc??????? Why else do we feel we need to save the EARTH and MAN?????

We feel (experience) the suffering of the Earth because its our body. We are not separate from it. We are not apart from the experiences of suffering, instead we have a direct-relationship with the experiences of suffering, engaged and activated by our senses of creation (life) sight, sound, touch, taste, feel smell/scent.

We have been brainwashed/braindirtied by man-made (freemasonic) knowledge/education that operates as a conveyor-belt running through factory planet earth, designed to train us to focus on (believe in/worship) images (con-structs of the Rules Of The Divide dressed up as science, astronomy, astrology etc, all imagined/invented out-of-thin-air) that are not of creation (life-reality-consciousness) and we are trained to place these fictitious ideas on to any life-form of creation, inanimate or not, to tell us how we must think and feel about them.

Instead of observing a flower (1st party to 1st party) allowing the plant to share all the information (consciousness) of its creation (life) to expand our consciousness (our true connections with life) which tells and helps us to remember who we really are and what we are really part of, we block out (blunt) what the flower is telling us, therefore we become estranged from life (reality) and without the sense of belonging from our awareness of our links with creation (consciousness), we are unconscious of creation, instead relying on the man-made knowledge we are braindirtied with to tell us who we are and how to think, feel and behave, which also tell us what we are part of.

When we are no longer in a state of consciousness we can do harm to life (to reality) because we can shut out the suffering we are causing. Once we no longer feel the connection with creation we can kill it - chop down the tree because it is just one of ten trees rather than a unique tree of trees filled with life force energy. Only when we are estranged from the animals can we kill them. We have become a SELF and our SELFish needs, desires and wants override everything else. Our taste buds demand meat so we kill a cow, happy in our deluded belief that we are higher than them and so can do what we want with them. Sounds rather like how the Establishment think of us!

We worship the fairytales at the cost of creation.

When we put our energy into these images we harm creation because these images have nothing to offer creation (life), nothing to give back. They have no life (consciousness) embodied and require that we cause destruction to the body of the earth to give them some physical/material semblance of life. Unable to maintain the fictitious physical/material images they also require our (MANS) energy/power of creation which takes us away from our real families, homes, tribes/villages/communities and gardens while we prop up these dead-corpse-fictions (do the walking, talking, thinking, feeling, contemplation, reasoning, negotiations, contracting, acting, pushing paper, pressing keyboards etc) and think we are satisfied with the megre "rewards" we get back. This is why many today feel they are strangers in society, particularly with family. Loneliness, unhappiness, isolation and suicide are rapidly on the increase.

As we spend all our time on the images of fiction, of the fairytale that is the western world civilisation of commerce, we become numb to the harm being done to creation, lulled by a thousand and one stories of fantasy, illusion, delusion and fiction that tell us its "o.k." and "normal" to destroy that which sustains us. It's o.k. to use 2400 litres of water to produce 1 beefburger (about 150g of beef), even though this is totally unsustainable.

The Rules of the Divide keep us believing we are separate from one another and the earth, that we are tiny isolated/individuals (in-divide-u-alls) of the universe at the effect of greater forces around us like stars & planets which determine our destiny/what happens to us. That we are all heading from somewhere and heading to somewhere, through time and space, meaning that we do not have to take full-responsibility here and now for all the harm we are causing and supporting and that its all ok because Jesus is coming back and the faithful will all be saved or the Galactic Federation will beam us up if necessary, or that a 6 million Asian triad is on standby to protect us, or that a white-brotherhood of man is working behind the scenes in our best interests, etc etc, This is all part of the freemasonic deception to keep us being sheeple, sitting on the fence passing the buck on to others (all 3rd parties) who are taking care of everything for us.

We have a penchant for surviving fairytales at the cost of life, of reality. The freedom/truth movement is full of fairytales just as the freeman and new age movement are as well, and all together with religions, esoterics and occultic practices, they keep us numb, unconscious and distracted from recognising REMEDY and applying it.

I don't like the expression that "we are all one" - I prefer to say that we are all unique aspects of creation (of consciousness) and we all have the full-responsibility to care for the creation of the dream of MAN & EARTH we are part of HERE AND NOW. How we can care for something whilst doing it harm, I don't know. That seems to me a bit like saying you are caring for your child when you are beating it and feeding it coca-cola and Maccas!

Consumption really means destruction and the con-structs of meat-eating, cooking-food/water, government/governance, rule of law/courts of law, private corporations, statutes, commerce, economics, banking, finance, insurance, debt/credit/loans/mortgages/overdrafts/bonds/bills, concrete, steel, plastic, synthetics, Hollywood, soap operas, TV, internet, telecommunications, technology etc, etc, ARE THE LIVING/FACTUAL EVIDENCE OF DESTRUCTION/CONSUMPTION of MAN & EARTH.

If an image you focus on cannot be found anywhere in creation and has no substance (life-consciousness-reality) to back-it/embody it, you can be sure that the time you spend putting your energy/power of creation into it is the time you spend acting in a fairytale consuming (destroying) MAN & EARTH.

Anything of creation will show you its part in creation and how it aids creation in rolling along here and now. If you cannot see how the image you are focusing on aids creation in rolling along then it has no part of creation and can only cause destruction to creation. Ask yourself if MAN and the EARTH would fade away and die if the image you are focusing on didn't exist. If they wouldn't, then the image you are focusing on is doing nothing for MAN or creation and you need to walk away from it and start focusing your energy on an image of creation.

If you look at the ideas you are supporting, you will see how entwined they are with the fiction and if they are entwined with fiction, they are causing destruction and you are lost in the fairytale, the true matrix.

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

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by Love For Life » Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:54 am

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Love For Life Wrote:

And we don't have much time. With the Establishment increasing the speed of their preparations for global eugenics and the earth (the true body of MAN) preparing to cleanse itself (Earths Fever) if we don't do the job, we don't have time to pick and choose which bit of destruction to maintain and which to give up.
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So the earth is competing with the NWO to see who can wipe out humanity first? Sounds like the planet is out of control and needs to be taught a lesson courtesy of the human race it built to house.
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Just as our body has a fever when we do harm to it so does the earth. Creation (nature) is perfection and whenever we drift away from perfection there is a natural pull back to order (to harmony) to maintain the natural order of this living dream (nature), so that the natural dream of MAN & EARTH does not fade away and die.

This pull is CONSCIOUSNESS, so when we drift away from consciousness (doing no harm - remembering who we really are and what we are part of) to unconsciousness (doing harm - forgetting who we really are and what we are part of), there is a natural pull back towards consciousness. This is the true meaning of love - love is acts of consciousness healing the unconscious and expanding consciousness until there is nowhere left for unconsciousness (darkness - forgetting who we are and what we are part of) to hide.

All sickness and disease reflects destruction to the natural harmony of nature (our body is nature) and the fever kicks in (the pull back to consciousness) to heal the damage done, to transmute the chaos (the unconsciousness) of toxicity, poisons, chemicals, negative/destructive thoughts, feelings and actions etc.

We were not meant to tamper with natural conscious-living DNA (the threads that form the fabric of this living dream) but we do when our thoughts, feelings and actions are impure and insincere. We were meant to expand the consciousness (the information) of living DNA, not to manipulate it, cook it, dissect it, corrupt it, lie about it, distort it, superimpose it, disguise it, process it etc etc.

And what are some of the symptoms of this feverish pull back to harmony, back to nature????? Sweating (heavy rain for weeks on end), shaking/trembling (earthquakes appearing all over the earth, many in unexpected places, the earth moving), vomit (lava), heavy bowel motions/diarrhea (volcanoes exploding, lands rising up & down, up to 4000 foot tidal waves rolling inland up to 400 miles in some locations), farting (300+ mph winds, cyclones, storms, tornadoes, hurricanes coming and going for weeks on end), drowsiness/vagueness (volcanic dust and particles in the atmosphere blocking out the sun, in some places up to 12 months), etc etc.

MAN creates the fever because the EARTH is MANS body. Those who love the earth are attracting the pull back to nature (back to consciousness) because they love the dream of creation and do not want it to fade away (be forgotten about) and die.

Those who are lost, the unconscious who have forgotten they are part of the dream, are doing harm through their impure, insincere thoughts, feelings and actions (the lust for power and control, greed, selfishness, arrogance, ignorance, fear, lies, deception, collusion, corruption, loneliness, despair, unhappiness, joylessness, uncertainty, directionless, powerlessness, manipulation, jealousy, envy, ridicule, abuse, hatred, intolerance, unfairness, sabotage, fiction, fantasy, illusion, delusion, etc, etc.....).

We have been so brainwashed by the man made education that has come out of sacred geometry, mathematics and ALL read and write alphabet languages, that we have become lost in the freemasonic matrix of their Rules Of The Divide (the con-structs - the structures of the con) and cannot make sense of what is really going on.

The reality is that what we focus on is what we create. If we have a relationship and we put lots of loving energy into that relationship, it will flourish and blossom. If we do not put energy into it it will fade away and die. If we want to live in a world of peace, freedom and harmony, this is what we have to put our energy into, to focus on. If MAN stops loving this dream of MAN & EARTH the sun will fade away and die. If we are distracted for whatever reason and forget our relationships, our relationships fade away and die just as the sun will if we forget the relationship we have with it (with this dream/life/creation).

MANS brain is like a film projector; images (thoughts, ideas, feelings, actions) are scanned across the lens and we focus on those images, projecting them out into the cinema of life where they either do harm or expand consciousness. Whatever we have chosen to focus on then comes bouncing back at us from the canvass (the cinema of life) in the image of our projection (CREATION). All relationships good and bad, strong and weak, are created this way.

We are creation; we are not going to or coming from creation and everything we think, feel and do has an effect on creation here and now. Either we are putting our loving energy into nurturing and co-creating with creation or we are focusing on everything that does harm to creation. When we do this we are destroying creation (our relationships - our dreams).

We are each responsible for creating the conscious living MAN that we are creating but most of us have forgotten this and are instead creating dead corpses (hu-mans) that have no connection to the dream of creation. This reflects the fading away of the living dream that is creation. The Earth's fever is MANS fever.

While some of us still love and focus on this dream, the earth will have its fever and millions of the lost will be consumed as the dream continues to live. If none of us loved the dream of creation, we would all just continue our deathstyle lives of destruction until there was nothing left of the EARTH and MAN to sustain us. The dream of creation would have died (completely forgotten about).

Under our present circumstances, as we awaken to the true nightmare of our situation, we all have a choice; keep putting our energy into any of the con-structs of the Western World Civilisation of Commerce that have us do harm, including commerce, the government, the law, the freedom truth movement, New Age, all esoterics and occults, every course and career, degree and title coming out of University, or we can focus all our energy/power of creation on the living dream of creation, growing food, weaning ourselves off all our harmful habits and working with creation rather than against it.

We are all brothers and sisters of MAN, all the creatures are our brothers and sisters as well and all together we co-create the dream of EARTH. We are not separate from each other, instead we are each uniquely entwined and interconnected as the fabric of the conscious-living dream of creation that rolls along here and now. It is the intent behind the acts of love we create for the living dream that form the fabric of the dream. We are all responsible for this living dream. Lets remember who we really are and our responsibilities to what we are part of. The living threads of the dream are created, nurtured, maintained and expanded by the purity and sincerity behind everything we feel, think and do. What a tragedy it will be if we all forget and loosen our threads from the fabric of creation until it completely frays away to dust.

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

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Adam Davis and the Truth Movement Australia

I always knew Davis was a sordid egg. Anyone who puts their face and persona in front of an organisation like TMA has both major ego and major backing. Total propaganda redirect agent for the ill guided. His tag line ... ' on this website ‘We Suggest, You Decide'.. speaks volume. Davis has done a real good job wiping TMA from the web, even all cached has disappeared!
Keep up the good work on Love For Life.

Mercenary Cops - Truth Movement Australia Website Taken Down

From here: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/04/21/cannot-hand-back-australian-t... and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/04/21/cannot-hand-back-australian-t...

Relinquishing TFN

Wednesday 9th June 2010 - 3:49pm

Hi,
Could you please explain to me what this voluminous reply has to do with the topic supposedly discussed here, to wit the relinquishing of the TFN?

Furthermore, the kind of verbal venom that taints the entire exchange puts me off!

My first ever post on the "loveforlife" website was intended to answer a question in a manner both polite and, hopefully, helpful.

I have no time for this nonsense! I'll withdraw from this discussion for good and I doubt very much that I will ever bother again with your website.

Cheers

Bernard: WeckMann

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9th June 2010 11.19pm

Hi Bernard
This is Arthur Cristian here. It was of my own instigation to post this correspondence here to show others how representatives of the PTB are increasing the bashing's/violence upon innocent men & women, particularly pregnant women. There are many freedom-truthers being targeted now. We are being saturated by letters, phone calls & emails from victims telling us their stories (many want their stories to be kept private for now). Some are dealing with TFN, others with speed fines, others with credit card debts, others with mortgages, others with courts, others with DOCS, others with sex crimes & pedophile gangs etc, others with the Queen, Gov Gen, etc, to do with Claim Of Rights/Life etc.....

We have a duty of care to point this out to anyone who visits the Love For Life website. The posting above shows how divided & ruled the freedom-truth movement really is. It shows how nasty some supposed freedom-truthers can be..... If we do not post this information around the Love For Life website as we have done here, we will be seen to be irresponsible and misleading innocent, naive & gullible men & women searching for cures to remedy their woes and help make their freedom dreams come true.

All the best
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

Here is another recent posting.................................

This is what we posted last night on FB and elsewhere, also please check out the links provided:

I think the term "mercenary cops" hits the nail on the head.

It seems the powers that be have created small operational pockets of thugs (like mafia gangs) in different regions to perform these dirty deeds. Based on suitability and tests, etc, these thugs are invited in and initiated into the satanic/masonic orders they now owe allegiance to. They feel bonded to the bigger global order/agenda of their masters. They are under oath and secrecy, they feel privileged, feel protected and they know that no matter what harm/chaos they cause to the community, the order will protect them because the order controls the judges, police department, police station, police commissioners, politicians, press, governors, etc, etc. These thugs will do anything for their order....

The PTB know that these incidents, while getting no mainstream coverage, spread like wildfire through alternative freedom/truth networks. The message??? We are everywhere and everywhere and we are coming to get you if you do not comply. You cannot escape us and our big brother surveillance, police state, etc, etc. Freedom truthers, etc, are targeted because the PTB know we will spread the news. They know who regularly chats and who doesn't so its obvious who they target.

The message is not true, of course, as these incidents are not happening daily or to everyone stopped by the police. If this was the case, it would hit the mainstream and there would be an uprising against such blatant brutality by all of the community.

It also takes a certain type of man or woman to be willing to bash up unarmed, peaceful men and women, especially pregnant women. Most police men and women are not thugs and do have consciences that would prevent them behaving in this manner.

We guess there are only a few pockets of these thugs operating in each city and just one or two men (possibly women) in satellite/rural towns and they thin out as the population thins out. There is probably one thug to every 500 cops ... something like this.

The thugs (soldiers) will be monitored and controlled from a central command point of generals, coordinating all facets of the "attack" on us, including child snatches by DOCS, financial raids, etc. Remember - they are at war with us even if we have no wish to be at war with them! In the end after all is said and done it's all just propaganda, espionage, spies, surveillance, reconnaissance, counter-terrorism, infiltration, psychology, etc, etc.... all attributes of WAR.

None of this happens by chance; it is all organised from the very top, at international level, down to the local hubs giving the orders to those that do the dirty work. Push forward, push back, hold off, go there, do this, find that, etc, etc.... GRADUALISM

It's not hard to give the impression that a bashing like the one Stone got or the NZ family received can happen anywhere at anytime by any police man/woman.

Perhaps we should be keeping a record of all these incidences in one place that we could then send off to Police Commissioners, Heads of Police regions, etc, asking for an explanation. Might get some of those police men and women with consciences thinking about what they are part of.

Maybe its time to do what they do, document enough evidence and target a specific region of police stations and make sure we reach all their police men and women.... ask them... do you support this???, condone this???, are you aware of this??? Make sure its all recorded.. maybe give out a small booklet/DVD with all the solid evidence to them,.... then target lawyers/prosecutors/courts etc...

Make sure the local press is aware of these actions including the politicians. If we do this it has to be a concerted effort by many and if harm comes to one WE ALL GET INVOLVED. WE ALL TURN UP AT THE POLICE STATION WHERE OUR BROTHERS/SISTERS OF LIFE ARE HELD....

"COMMUNITY IMMUNITY"

IMAGINE 1000 OF US TURNING UP AND SURROUNDING A POLICE STATION???? or wherever/whatever.

Let's put the pressure back on their soldiers. In each region we will need to have a reasonable size group working together to do this. We can all do this peacefully, with love for the soldiers and show we respect what they do as a police man/woman and are valued BUT make sure we have clearly defined the line that must never be crossed where harm is done upon those who have never broken the peace or caused a crime or injured anyone, etc...

Let's become organised hubs, establish extensive interconnected support networks... there are hundreds of thousands of victims, in fact millions, at the hands of child support agencies, paedophile gangs, police, banksters, lawyers, judges, etc, etc.

Let's create the reason that brings everyone together to support each other rout out all the mobsters from each region. Let's do what they (PTB) do and be ORGANISED. If we don't do something like this, who is going to come along and fix it?

"COMMUNITY IMMUNITY"
"COMMUNITY IMMUNITY"
"COMMUNITY IMMUNITY"

I don't know anyone who is truly happy and I am noticing that more and more people are getting more and more down.

If we don't all come together as communities so, things will only get worse and worse.

"COMMUNITY IMMUNITY" (love for our brothers/sisters of LIFE) is the remedy to fix this problem.

Instead of each of us being a thread that has frayed from the fabric of community, we need to weave our lives back together again.
Lets not expend all our energy in forums, etc, let's use all our energy doing something about it. There are a 1001 distractions the PTB provide for us to vent our emotions/feelings to ensure that we never get together and actually do something about the situation. We cannot do this as individuals. The only way to stand up to the PTB is together.

Life is a team effort as is truth, freedom, peace, prosperity, doing no harm and community immunity.

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Jerry & Joe Kane - Father & Son Killed In West Memphis By Police For Protecting Their Property - Media Twists Abound: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/05/26/jerry-joe-kane-father-son-kil...

Brutalised - How New Zealand Police Treat The Peaceful - Even If No One Is Harmed & There Are No Injured Parties You Get Bashed: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/06/07/brutalised-how-new-zealand-po...

Video: New Zealand Police Stealing Wrong Child Away From Peaceful Parents! - 8 Minutes 29 Seconds : http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/06/07/video-new-zealand-police-stea...

The Sick Puppy - The Kidnap Of Fiona Cristian: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6375

Please post these articles on as many other walls as possible.

Also, can any of you please post your full stories (or others) of brutality in the comments section here: http://loveforlife.com.au/comment/reply/7329#comment-form - I can then turn them into articles. Please send links to videos or photos as well or email article/story/video link/photos etc to action @ loveforlife.com.au Please put in header "MERCENARY COPS" all in upper case so I can quickly pick them out amongst the 500/600 emails I receive daily.

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6th June 2010

.............................. @hotmail.com wrote:

J M sent a message using the contact form at http://loveforlife.com.au/contact.

Hi,
I was just wondering about the --truth movement au-- forums-- ( http://truthmovementaustralia.com.au ) I have not been able to access them for weeks now and did also get a message that they had been stopped till further notice when I have tried to access and also most of the time I get a 404 error. I was wondering if there has been a problem with accessing the site or is it me?

Thanks

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6th June 2010

Hi J M
Adam Davis took it ( http://truthmovementaustralia.com.au ) down because of this:

Jerry & Joe Kane - Father & Son Killed In West Memphis By Police For Protecting Their Property - Media Twists Abound
http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/05/26/jerry-joe-kane-father-son-kil...

Message from Adam Davis to us is below.

See other posts like these one: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/05/27/adelaide-doomsday-cult-media-... and http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/05/21/we-will-lead-every-revolution...

All the best
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

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27th May 2010 3:02 PM

Adam Davis sent a message using the contact form at http://loveforlife.com.au/contact.

Hi Arthur,
With the recent assassination of redemption members in the US I am doing my best to step away from anyone who is using this information. Because of this I would like to kindly ask that you remove my interview with Thomas Anderson from your website.

I got involved in the straw man research when I was still new to things, and although I completely agree with the right of every man to be free, I have to think about my family now, and am backing away from this kind of material completely. I hope you respect and understand my reasoning.

You are a good person and I sincerely wish you the best on your journey towards the truth.

regards,

Adam Davis

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Below is the post Bernard complained about............................

Freeman Of Australia Forum Discussion Regarding Freedom Remedy

Monday 31st May 2010 3:42pm

Posted by Arthur Cristian - Love For Life

Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/04/21/cannot-hand-back-australian-t...

This is what we posted to the Freeman Of Australia Forum and the discussion that unfolded. Firstly, please read the posting to do with Jerry & Joe Kane http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7322 before continuing.

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

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http://freemenofaustralia.ning.com/forum/topics/jerry-joe-kane-father-so...

Friday 27th May 2010 at 8:54pm

Jerry & Joe Kane - Father & Son Killed In West Memphis
By Police For Protecting Their Property
Media Twists Abound

Jerry Kane and his beautiful son Joe (age 16) were shot to death during an alleged traffic stop by law enforcement on Thursday, May 20th, 2010. Jerry, Joe and their two dogs, while on their way back to their home in Florida have been made out to be everything from drug smugglers to Hispanics, which we all know is typical of the media spinners. The police said it was a traffic stop. But their van had more bullet holes in it than Bonnie and Clyde's.

http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7322

This is only the beginning. Since 2007 we have been warning everyone we can reach (those who are using their brains) that the free man/sovereignty/commercial redemption/honour-dishonour, etc, route in the long run will not work, that it will be revealed as a complete waste of life-force-energy unless we apply the ONLY remedy that will work.... "COMMUNITY IMMUNITY" (KINDOMS - DO NO HARM COMMUNITIES), but to create that means completely overcoming self-centeredness. We have written heaps about this since 2005.

We also received two phone calls today explaining that Jerry & Joe Kane were assassinated, that it was cold-blooded, that witnesses are frightened for their lives.

Adam Davis (TMA http://truthmovementaustralia.com.au ) also contacted us today asking us to take down the interviews he did with Thomas Anderson. He is concerned for his family and future! He is pulling out of the freeman/sovereignty movement.

We also received a phone call today from a stranger (who knew his stuff - possibly Federal police or other intel) warning us that our lives are now on the line, that plans are a-foot to kill us too. This is the second call we have received from this stranger, the 1st call was about the pending raid raid on Agape Ministry Of God. This call is on top of the 4 death threats we have already received since November 2009. We had one call traced back to the NSW Head Office of Police in Surry Hill, Sydney.

As we indicated quite a few times since 2005, the PTB are pushing their plans forward by 3 to 4 years.

Copy/Paste from a recent comment..........

"Once the rule of law sedatives and prescripted medications (claim of right/life) wear thin the PTB are left with one final solution to control the sheeple..... FORCE as in genocide. The scam has now come full-circle. The final solution is all they have left. After invading all the supposed new lands across the earth, genocide/eugenics was used to clear the way (hundreds/thousands of millions murdered) before they introduced their rule-of-law sedatives and other prescripted medications to keep dumb and stupid subjects as their slaves. Are the PTB really going to allow millions/billions of claim-of-rights to burst through the gates of all their enclosures? Do you really think they will gracefully stand aside?

A base Molotov cocktail of poisons, chemicals and toxins has been placed in the bodies of most of us and with the addition of electronic/magnetic/digital frequencies/pulses, earth-wide genocide is just around the corner with a flick of a switch. The PTB planned for this long ago. (Philadelphia experiment, Haarp, Reagan Star-War Laser Satellites, Chemtrails, Digital Towers, etc).

The earthly culling will be blamed on others..i.e, alien invasion, ufo attacks, nations, collateral damage, etc,. While culling back to roughly 500 million people, the PTB will be introducing, via their "Good Guys", their updated Anti-Life system, again loaded with sedatives and prescripted medications for their subjects. Don't forget the PTB still control all aspects of the present anti-life system. The "Good Guys" include many PTB planted heroes and a self-fulfilling prophecy saviour/messiah/prophet/pahana/bahana/meitreya/metraya, etc.

There is a remedy but it ain't found in the PTB anti-life system."

"We Will Lead Every Revolution Against Us"
So Say The Hooded Ones Of Black-Magic
by Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
22nd May 2010
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7317

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We also received a text message today that a large flotilla of war ships with aircraft and troops are already heading or will be shortly heading to the Middle East. Message says to stock up food for at least one month because international (and inevitably domestic) transport is going to be effected.

The PTB needs to create a major issue now, one that will erupt into a series of chaotic waves leading to military law/curfews/police state/economic collapse, etc, etc, and use this heavy fog of chaos to go about their business, with little interruption and exposure, rounding up everyone they have listed. We warmed everyone back in 2007/2008 that the internet is a great intelligence gathering tool, a measuring stick, a thermometer for assessing how fast the PTB need to accelerate their plans and what plans or back-up plans they implement. Remember, this is a full-on waged war against all of us

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Received news via mobile phone about this pending Agape Ministry Of God media event around 4 months ago from an insider, possibly from within Federal Police. We are not sure where he was from but he knew his stuff, had a very good grip on this Agape Ministry Of God matter (photos and many links provided below) and had a finger on the pulse of the goings on behind the scenes of police, government and other agencies. He also read all the Ringing Cedars books a few times over, was fully aware about the dream of Kindom and could tell in his voice that this MAN was troubled by a conscience that was awakening real fast. It seems to be the only reason why he rang us. He had children and deeply loved nature.

We realised 4 months ago the Agape Ministry Of God was going to be a PTB white washing event (there are others in the pipeline too), to establish precedence causing changes in law and public perception about people coming together to co-create communities. This PTB media event is along similar lines to 9/11 and the resulting Patriot Act. We have written about such whitewashing/white-anting scenarios coming down the line orchestrated by the PTB since 2007. This Agape Ministry Of God media event tells us all very clearly that "community immunity" is the PTB greatest fear of all and is what we must co-create OUT IN THE OPEN for all to see as a gift of life. We briefly touched on the Ten Steps of Kindom originally back in 2007: The Ten Steps Of Kindom by Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life 23rd October 2008: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5788 We'll shortly revisit & upgrade this general discussion into a polished article.

There is not a week goes past where phone calls from plants are received acting as interested parties in the dream for Kindom and its so easy to suss them out within 30 seconds or so of answering their calls. We feel them, feel their intent. Some ring regularly while others only ring once. It's obvious they record the chats hoping to catch us out and use these recordings against us one day. The truth keeps being brought up in a variety of ways which stuffs up their recordings. It is also very important that we keep posting everything we say and do out in the open for all to see. The dream of Kindom we created taps into the energy of the PTB and all their lackeys. Everytime they do anything against the Cristian Family, others, including community immunity/Kindoms/Do No Harm Communities, etc, there energy feeds the Kindom dream 100 fold. No matter what they do their actions exposes them out in the open for all to see, evokes the conscience in many for the first time, both white collar lackeys and average Joe's & Mary's, supports the dream of Kindom, inspires co-creation of Kindom for the first time in the hearts of many and causes many of their white collar lackeys to begin the planning steps of fleeing the anti-life system they are caught up in. More on this shortly in another article.

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Reply by Peter Lalor on May 28, 2010 at 8:33am

Don't suppose Arthur ever considered reducing his consumption of pot ?? The world looks a bit different when not viewed through a haze of marijuana. Do you really think that if the PTB want to get you, being ensconsed in nirvana a mere couple of hours away from their enlaves will constitute a significant barrier ??

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Reply by Arthur & Fiona Cristian on May 28, 2010 at 9:26am

The slander indicates no presence of MAN. MAN feels with heart to use brain. A short-circuit between heart and brain causes distortion (illusions, delusions, fantasies) leading to slander, ridicule, abuse & character assassination. Being apart from the hearts and brains embodied amongst many brothers and sisters of MAN is the cancer that spreads. Thank you for offering this dis-ease but this offer has been declined. You are most welcome to contact the living upon your return. We will be at the gate of the living-world waiting to greet you with open arms.

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Reply by GAz on May 28, 2010 at 10:23am

Has there been made public yet, any indication that the first shooting involved th kanes?

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Reply by Arthur & Fiona Cristian on May 28, 2010 at 10:51am

Hi Gaz
No, If we receive any further news we will post the info in the Love For Life link provided. It's been more than 7 days since the shooting. It's obvious if the PTB had solid evidence to back up their position/agenda the recordings would have been released within hours or at worst with 1 day of the shooting and they would have flogged this evidence to death across the USA and elsewhere.

Also, don't forget to study this documentation (posted below) where we exhausted the administrative process and then used their system of statute law/contract law (the law understood & applied by the force of law) and have exhausted this lawful/legal process as well just to create a cure. Either way, the evidence clearly reveals the PTB will break their own laws, the very laws they force everyone else to abide by, to keep us in our place. They even kidnapped the body Fiona is creating with our youngest daughter, Xanthe, just turned 2 sitting in the back seat exposed to all the horror unfolding.

All the best
Arthur

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For Documentation Of Harm Done By The Powers-That-Be And Their Representatives,

Evidence Revealing How Victims Did Not Break The Peace, Caused No Crime or Harm, There Were No Injured Parties. Documenting Incontrovertible Evidence Demonstrating How The Powers That Be (PTB) And Their Lackeys Will Break All The Laws They Are Supposed To Uphold. They Will Kidnap, Intimidate, Terrorise, Rape, Pillage, Plunder And Lie And Take Responsibility For None Of It. All Part Of Their Tactics Of Using Fear And Trauma To Keep Us In Our Place. Relatives Of Those Under Their Radar Are Also Not Safe From Attack And Intimidation. All Starting From A $25 Fine For Not Voting And A $65 Fine For Not Changing A Dog Registration. We Do Not Have Freedom And Can Only Appear To Have Freedom If We Comply. Regardless How Small The Matter The PTB Throw Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars Away To Enforce Their Will.... Go Here:
Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office - Part One to Part Nine - From 17th October 2008 And Still Continuing:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6319 or
Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office
Part One: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5742 - From 17th October 2008
Part Two: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6135 - From 18th December 2008
Part Three: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6295 - From 9th January 2009
Part Four: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6296 - From 14th January 2009
Part Five: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6375 - The Sick Puppy - From 20th February 2009
Part Six: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6390 - Police Officers, Sheriff’s Officers, Tow Truck Driver and State Debt Recovery Office Blatantly Ignore the Law To Rape, Pillage and Plunder The Private Property Of Fiona Cristian - From 11th March 2009
Part Seven: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6445 - Affidavit Of Truth - Letter To The Queen + Australia: Fascism is Corporatism - From 30th March 2009
Part Eight: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6652 - The Pirates Auction And The Ghost Of VSL386 - From 4th April 2009
Part Nine: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7073 - Arthur Cristian's Letter To Pru Goward MP - From 15th December 2009

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Reply by Janis Ferguson on May 28, 2010 at 11:10am

I RECKON IF YOU CHALLENGE EM THEY BITE....MAYBE THE BEST THING IS NOT TO AND JUST IGNORE THEM, DONT OPEN MAIL, OR TRY TO GET INTO COURT....WHERE THE CORRUPTION IS RIOT...... LOOK HOW FAR THE GOVERNMENT WENT WITH MARTIN BRYANT......... ANYTHING TO ACHIEVE THEIR GOAL AND A COUNTRY OF SHEEPLE WHO BELIEVE THE CRAP ON TV..... HOW MANY KNOW THAT THE LIKES OF PACKER MADE THEIR MONEY ON THE MISERY OF MANY WITH BRINGING HARD DRUGS INTO THE COUNTRY.....I GUESS PUTTING THE APPLIANCES INTO AMBULANCES WAS FIRSTLY FOR HIMSELF THEN AN EFFORT TO MAKE HIMSELF LOOK GOOD.... AAAAHHHHHHH THE GOV ARE GOOD AT CONDONING THIS SORT OF BEHAVIOR BECAUSE THEY ALL PLAY A PART IN TREASON.....WHAT ELSE WOULD ONE EXPECT FROM PIRATES.....

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Reply by Peter Lalor on May 28, 2010 at 1:26pm

There is a VAST difference between exercising care not to arouse the ire of the PTB and taking the totally defeatist attitude demonstrated by Arthur Cristian. The clown clearly lives in la-la land, constantly bitching about the system whilst happily accepting whatever handouts he can glean, funded I might add by those of us who actually work for a living. Since we've never been informed about any productive endeavour on the part of Arthur we can only assume he's still happily accepting the largesse of Centrelink. I don't think its necessary to say much about the 'MP3 Studio' other than that the income generated would be highly unlikely to affect the Centrelink handouts. A reasonable person would assume someone claiming freeman status would take all possible steps to earn funds (whether fictional or otherwise) necessary to support ones wife & offspring. To my way of thinking, the dole & parenting allowance don't quite rate as 'productive'.

I notice that this mornings rant by Arthur describes most if not all the topics considered by most as part and parcel of freeman philosophy, however there doesn't appear to be any concerted move to remove references to these subjects from the loveforlife website. Surely someone who has a website full of supposedly relevant information and who has just had a change of heart as to the legitimacy of the stuff he promotes would be frantically removing any objectionable material in order to maintain honor, or is the situation that of Google hits being more important than honor ?? Note that it may well be that at least some & possibly all the sacred cows need to be put out to pasture, however claiming on one hand that its a load of crap whilst maintaining a website full of the so called crap doesn't exactly do a lot for the credibility of the site.

Its hard to imagine the Cristians ever being a target of the PTB let alone being warned of such by a federal oinker or whatever. There are infinitely jucier targets out there, folk like Mark McMurtrie who actually do stuff that makes a difference. Even Pytellec would be far higher on the hit list although in his case the PTB are probably the least of his problems.

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Reply by Janis Ferguson on May 28, 2010 at 2:06pm

well said pL .......

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Reply by Arthur & Fiona Cristian on May 28, 2010 at 2:57pm

Armed with slander upon slander upon slander is this present behaviour. Making so many claims without backing them up with evidence. Grabbing whatever meanings can be dredged up from the morass of your harm to place the harm over the living so that the truth of the living can be completely ignored/blocked out. The sun shines but some prefer to close the windows & blinds and draw the curtains and remain in their righteous darkness of SELF-CENTEREDNESS. Creating a mould that others must conform to or be written off if they don't comply. Is this not what the PTB do? Bickering and backstabbing is part of the divide and rule the PTB love so much.

Who do you represent?

You know almost nothing about us or our circumstances.

Is it possible to communicate without harm entwined? Is it possible to co-create with others without harm? How do we create a world of no harm while participating in harm.

We live for (our dream) a world without harm.

What about you?

What are you offering?

Where is the good will?

Also, unless you can prove otherwise, we have never lived with you, have never worked with you, have had no dealings with you, have never harmed you (ripped you off, back-stabbed you, used you, etc,, etc) or your family/loved ones, and yet as a stranger you come to us as if we have injured you!. If we have not harmed you why are you acting injured?

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Reply by Janis Ferguson on May 28, 2010 at 3:10pm

There is no slander in fact, and there is a lot of verbal diarrhoea , is it not written...ye know them by their works?

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Reply by Peter Lalor on May 28, 2010 at 3:50pm

EXACTLY, some folk are preceded by their reputation. Now what was it Comrade McMurtrie had to say on the subject ??

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Reply by Arthur & Fiona Cristian on May 28, 2010 at 3:53pm

Hi Janis
We are all renters of "The Crowns" intellectual property (their copyright - right-of-copy) that encompasses every aspect of their (PTB) civilisation of commerce (the fairytale). We are all severely compromised and as innocent children, we were not provided with idiot-friendly full disclosure, which clearly explained to each of us that by entering into their education system (includes having fairytales read to us repeatedly), we were going to create a fictitious character who will enter stage and be their slave for a lifetime performing as their fictitious character in their fairytale (the system). Without returning to nature how can we avoid dealing with the PTB while we continue performing for them??????? The PTB always have an interest (a claim) over their renters (serfs/commoners/goi/slaves/labourers/etc).

And then there is the reality of the extensive harm doing going on all around us all-the-time.

It appears there are well over 300,000 victims of sexual abuse, of all ages, just along the east coast of Australia including Melbourne & Geelong, and when you add on the other hundreds of thousands of victims at the hands of the PTB anti-life system... stolen children, broken families, fraud, loss of home, poisoned or murdered by chemicals. toxins, disease, and what about violence and robbery and brainwashing, and lets not forget the everyday stress from the constant pull of debts, mortgages, keeping a roof over ones head, food on the table and the dream of access to non toxic land, clean drinking water and fresh unpolluted air where the true freedom of life-sustainability can be experienced

The freedom to contemplate and rejoice in the beauty of life is freedom but most don't have such freedom, they are too distracted rejoicing the PTB anti-life system,

There are too many of our brothers and sisters of life out there suffering for us to turn our backs. Until we all actually start thinking about how we can serve (live for) others and be that walk-the-talk gift of life for the benefit of others every day, the PTB anti-life system, without resistance (no "community immunity"), will continue to expand until there is nothing of life remaining for any of us to have a life.

Life (nature) is a team effort as is truth, freedom, peace, prosperity and health.

While we remain in the system we are slaving-team-players for the PTB system. Who benefits? Hardly anyone anymore.

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Reply by Peter Lalor on May 28, 2010 at 4:31pm

Some of us could do without the type of 'team effort' which requires us to squander hard earned dollars (fictional or otherwise) to support bone lazy layabouts unwilling or incapable of supporting themselves or their dependants. Spreading unadulterated crap doesn't rate in my book as a worthwhile pursuit. I note that the prime recipients of the 'overcoming self-centeredness' philosophy are folk who claim to espouse freeman values but who are perfectly happy to sponge off their less work-phobic brethren.

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Reply by Arthur & Fiona Cristian on May 28, 2010 at 4:46pm

Hello Peter & Janis,
We take full responsibility for everything we say and do. We don't pass the buck to another or play with words in clever ways so they can be used as a shield to hide from others particularly after throwing lots of claims (spears) at them, especially claims that can't be backed up. If claims can't be backed up then an apology is in order otherwise it will be seem that you are troublemakers determined to create a controversy where there isn't one.

What has Mark McMurtrie got to do with the words you have both typed into this cyberspace discussion??? Are you both impersonating Mark McMurtrie?? or are you both authorised representatives of Mark McMurtries life-force & brain?? or are you implying that there is an us and them determination, a gang of us with Mark McMurtrie?? Can you please clarify exactly what are you implying by bringing in a 3rd party into this discussion who is not involved, not here

The last time we spoke with Mark McMurtrie was less than two weeks ago, it was left with Mark coming to visit us shortly so we can meet for the first time, to get to know each other and to discuss each others body of work.

Are you suggesting/implying that you have had discussions with Mark McMurtrie since we last spoke to him????

We have already explained in great detail why there is no long-term remedy/cure to be found in the freeman/honour-dishonour/commercial redemption/sovereignty movement and we are happy to debate this. But perhaps you should look at our work first so you really comprehend where we are coming from rather than making assumptions based on hearsay.

In this discussion we stand by everything we say word for word, we do so because we are accountable and can be counted on.

What about you????

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Reply by Arthur & Fiona Cristian on May 28, 2010 at 5:25pm

Hello Peter
Again you are making so many claims without any evidence to back these claims.

All men are equal are they not?

Are you implying by judgment that you are placed on to a higher standing than another MAN ??? or are you not a man but GOD (or a god) of a higher authority? If so, can you please bring forward proof of your claim

The PTB promote: All men are equal but some are more equal than others!!!

Who do you represent Peter?
Who is your master?

Also, do you have an "all seeing eye" to know all about us??

Are you practising black magic or sorcery or some kind of invisible esoteric or occultic witchcraft transportation to be all knowing.???

Where does all this knowledge you claim about us come from?????

Don't tell us its all made up or hearsay!!!!

Please bring forward the 1st party to back your claim that you are supporting us?

Please bring forward the substance of life that gives us life which you claim we sponge off. Note: It has to be something real, meaning it must have consciousness/life embodied in its form, and remember what is invisible offers nothing for the living.

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

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Reply by Janis Ferguson on May 28, 2010 at 6:49pm

I HAVE NEVER MENTIONED MARK MCMURTRIE TO YOU , SIMPLY BECAUSE I DO NOT BELIEVE IN CASTING PEARLS AMONG SWINE....

SOME TIME AGO I BLOCKED YOUR COMMENTS AND CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS NOT HAPPENING

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Reply by Debra: Bentley. on May 28, 2010 at 7:07pm

Spot on Peter - I DO know this man - he receives NO benefits from Centrelink, so has NO income to support himself or his family - his wife Fiona receives Centrelink to support herself & the children & has to support Arthur as well.

His wants everyone else to chip in for his 'Dream' (keep dreamin) of a Kindom (kingdom) where he can live without having to work for it - That is a Moocher to me - one only needs to read Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand to see where his moral code is.... Who is John Galt? so apt in this situation - & yes he puts his mouth (or his fingers on the keyboard) into gear without first engaging his brain (what there is of it) & claims he believes in 'DO NO HARM' yet I have heard it from others & been on the receiving end of it myself - hypocrite - LMFAO

A MAN needs to earn his own living & be productive if he wants to live - not bludge on others for handouts or depend on his wife to support him & take what is supposed to be to feed his children for himself.... Great intellect / principles / morals here I see.....

The only thing that appears to matter is how many HITS he gets on his website that counts as being 'somebody of importance' to feed his desperate ego... he sits at home all day at his computer - really should get out more & get a life... Any fool can talk on the phone to people or email them - big deal - talk is cheap, actions speak louder... Losing a Drivers Licence & challenging them over a car isn't a big deal in the big scheme of things..... Arthur still has his licence, but Fiona has lost hers ..... he says he NEEDS his to drive the children.... Freemen do NOT need a licence - I no longer have one or rego...

The information he posts is stuff mostly gleaned from others on the www & sent to him to make him appear as though he is 'connected' & somehow in the clique of those that do know..... plagarism to the extreme.... where is the mind? Who is John Galt? LOL

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Reply by Adam Michael Birkbeck on May 28, 2010 at 11:56pm

George Tran (who was raised in Australia but went to the USA in 1993), who was on Angela's talkshoe on the 20th, and who used info from her and Jerry, amongst others, to clear the debt on 4 properties (as he was notified on 24 May 2010), and put up an e-book about the process (his bank was an subsidiary) of Bank of America on his website www.freeandclearin90.com put a distressing message on his site today.

2 burly men appeared and banged on his door on the 26th - he did not answer. They came back and tried the front and back doors on the 27th and again he did not answer for the 15 minutes they were there. He now says he fears for his life, too and is 'freaking out' (to quote him). This happened after his 'victory' and after the announced on his site he was initiating a document preparation service to assist other people.

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Reply by Shakti on May 29, 2010 at 8:00am

Quite frankly, Peter, I find your attitude becoming rather monotonous, tedious and extremely unhelpful. You are being manipulative, you certainly do not offer any useful information, and you are beginning to sound like a fascist. Quite relevant to this thread, do you propose that we just shoot all these, supposed layabouts, who you claim to contribute nothing. Well I have to say that unless you have a degree in science, engineering, technical or have a trade, you do not have the potential to contribute anything either. The reality today is that most people contribute contribute nothing to the wellbeing of the whole, that is why we are in the mess that we are in. It is estimated that just 5 percent of the work then being done would satisfy our minimal needs for food, clothing, and shelter. Directly or indirectly, most work serves the unproductive purposes of commerce or social control (which is what you are advocating). 80% of people are salesmen, soldiers, managers, cops, stockbrokers, clergymen, bankers, lawyers, teachers, landlords, security guards, ad-men, and are all non productive. So very little effort is required to maintain our supposed lifestyle in this moment, despite its gross inefficiency.

So wake up to yourself and do something about your bad attitude before someone shoots you. You, like everyone else, has something very important to contribute to the good of everybody. If you think about it clearly, unless everybody's wellbeing is being adequately taken care of, everybody's security is compromised. So it is in your interest to care about others. You don't have to do everything, but if what is being done, is being done efficiently, then there is not much burden. The challenge is to get everybody to do their bit, and fascism does not work.

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Reply by Janis Ferguson on May 29, 2010 at 10:37am

Would you class that as a bad attitude? Well, I would totally disagree with your comments re PL ..... and obviously have no idea what you are raving about..... Not everyone has the ego some have on this site or any of the others for that matter, therefore have no need to exaggerate what in reality is no more than information taken from the efforts of others for their own self glorification, shadowed in the name of ....'team effort', nor do they need to brag about their efforts or input to others to feel acceptable ...... not many are able to take truth, or any form of constructive criticism, most often they cannot take it and pump up their ego by professing they know or have a good rapport with people when in actuality they do not. These types are more often a hindrance than a help. Some admire straight shooters, most just cant take unadulterated truth.....and that is more in line with why the world is the way it is today.

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Reply by Peter Lalor on May 29, 2010 at 10:44am

The very last thing we need is more false prophets, particularly those who promote concepts they don't comprehend & aren't prepared to put in the effort required to gain a proper understanding. Far too many self professed 'freemen' are only interested in issues that involve less than five minutes study & which promise a quick buck regardless of what underhanded activities are involved. Before you get up on your hind legs, consider the real motive of most if not all A4V attempts. Despite common belief that even a minor error in a contract immediately negates the contract, there is no truthb whatever in the idea. At most an error / lack of full disclosure / etc is grounds for a claim of unconsionable conduct with appropriate compensation, however the contract is still in force. Attempts to acquire assets without paying are nothing but fraud & false pretences. The only thing that can be said in favour of loveforlife is that unlike certain obvious profiteers there is no blatant attempt to extract money directly from followers. Arthur loves filling his totally fucked up site with all manner of material, including stuff he claims is unworkable, all in the hope it might get a few more google hits. Needless to say the honorable approach would be to host only material he believes is legitimate. His expectation that the world owes him a living is completely untenable and contrary to true freeman / sovereignity principles. Your contention that salespersons etc are non-productive is also nonsensical, if that were the case their employer would have no need of their services.

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Reply by Peter Lalor on May 29, 2010 at 11:27am

You gotta be joking !!!!! I most certainly do NOT accept any responsibility to support layabout fuckwits who sponge off those of us who put in an honest days work or who contribute significantly to the freeman movement. Running a tenth rate website focussed only on google hits is hardly 'productive' in any language. Clowns who spend their days stuffing around with inconsequential bullshit whilst expecting others to feed and house them are nothing less than parasites & as such they have no part in the freeman movement and definitely no right to claim sovereign status. What sort of freeman / sovereign requires his spouse to claim the dole to support not only her and their kids but his worthless hulk as well ??

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Reply by Arthur & Fiona Cristian 1 day ago

There are many slaves fighting to wear their manacles and
protesting vigorously whenever someone tries to loosen them.
Arthur Cristian

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Reply by Arthur & Fiona Cristian 1 day ago

As for Jerry & Joe Kane, here are a few more comments....

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That Jerry thing was pretty obvious... I mean look at the photos... where is the number plate they claim they used to identify them as the same two "men" that killed two police officers 45 minutes earlier with an AK47..??

And why is the car riddled with bullet holes, and the boy handcuffed face down on the ground when he was supposed to have been shot.

Why were they in a WalMart car park after supposedly shooting police officers 45 minutes earlier and not in hiding somewhere?

Why in the video does it look like their car was run over by a tank?

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I would not be surprised the two dead cops were killed by the powers that be (PTB). The two cops might have seen too much and the PTB had to get rid of them. The PTB have special task forces for such occasions to prevent cops having to kill their "mates", which they would baulk at. The PTB have been known to do this over the ages, often killing shiploads of men who might return to their homelands and spread the word about the massacres of men and women on the land that they had been forced to take part in. "Things Are Not What They Seem".

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We know of other murders here on Gondwana Land, we have the stories, but we have promised not to publish them until we are given the go ahead. It's going to get worse from here on end.

Then there is Edward Jay Robin Belanger (Minister Belanger), in Canada, he and friend are in the lockup since 8th/9th March 2010. He operated as a minister for his faith (his church). Since 2005 we have constantly communicated/debated points of view. We warned him that the PTB will do anything to protect their higher standing and that his religion, faith, paper work, words, etc, will not protect him. He thought we were arrogant etc.

Many freedom-truthers wellbeing (their lives) and their families are on the line now.

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From here: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/09/05/13/new-world-order-conversa... - 13th June 2009

Back in the early/mid 1980's a new media company started up in Sydney (in Alexandria/Waterloo/Rosebery ---- within 4 miles/6ks of the Sydney CBD), with plans to be another media force (Newspapers, magazines, tv, radio etc) challenging the Murdoch Press and the Packer Press who controlled almost all of Australia's media one way or another (and both are controlled by the Rothschilds - this is a fact). This new competitor set up in a massive industrial estate with many hundreds of staff, backed by vast amounts of fictional $$$$$. Within days of commencing operation the huge industrial estate building was raided by a very large gang of thugs one early evening mid-week and many of the new staff working there were ALL brutally and severely bashed, some with broken bones, etc, etc. The building was ransacked and then completely burnt to the ground. All the workers were tied, gagged and warned to keep their mouths shut or they and their families etc would ALL be killed etc etc. The only news to come out to this day was the building on fire. Nothing else was ever mentioned anywhere, no police involved, no politicians, no enquiries, just absolutely nothing. And yet many police, politicians, journalists etc knew what really happened and said/did nothing. A close friend who was involved deeply in politics and was also a media man and a known film director with all the right connections told me everything about this event. He said nothing as well and so the public were kept in the dark. This is just one example of many, in fact of many many thousands when you also consider Waco, Jones Town massacre. 9/11, Bali Bombings, Ruby Ridge massacre etc etc.

Today, we have many many thousands of Australians in Jail who sought freedom. All innocent, all having done no harm to man, earth or nature. In the eyes of the establishment all they did wrong was to stand up to the establishment system determined to have their true freedom. More than 100 hundred alternative communities around Australia have been raided and destroyed since the 1960's. Some were set up as cults, sects etc, others were set up with drugs and yet others were set up with kidnapping children or supposedly harbouring criminals etc etc. Yet again many others were infiltrated and destroyed from within. They even destroyed the spirit of Byron Bay. Now its known as not a safe place. In Australia alone we already have a 10,000 strong law enforcement operative in place to deal with break away communities etc. They have tasers, laser weapons, a range of chemical sprays amongst a vast array of other evil equipment for both attack and defence.

And then there is the Soviet holocaust of 60 million killed within the space of 15 years...(less than 80 years ago).... the Chinese Holocaust that killed 60 million Chinese less than 50 years ago...... can you truly comprehend the extent of murder carried out by the establishment behind the Soviets and the Chinese, the same bloodline establishment in control today, the same establishment behind all the major wars which caused billions and billions of innocent men, women and children to die over the last 300 years. The same establishment behind the Jewish holocaust of 250,000 (not 6 million - all bullshit), the same establishment behind the Cambodian holocaust, the Romanian Holocaust, the Nigerian Holocaust, The Rhodesian Holocaust, The Palestinian Holocaust, The American North/Central/South American Indian holocausts which killed over 1 billion men, women and children over the past 500 years, the Aboriginal Holocaust on Gondwanaland which killed over 40 million less than 300 years ago, The American Civil War Holocaust, etc.

The same establishment bloodlines behind HAARP, Chemtrails, Regan Star Wars Laser Satellites, ELF, Vaccinations, Mercury, MSG, Aspartame, Fluoride, Fast Food, Obesity, Food Additives, genetics, altering seeds, nutritional deficiencies, 100,000+ poisons/chemicals circulating and absorbing the planet and man, recycled sewage, poo and wees as drinking water, etc etc etc etc all preparing the way for the soon-to-be-global holocaust of men, women and children in the billions if we don't stop it. This is a Molotov cocktail triggered by highly explosive and brilliant intellects who are without consciousness embodied, leading the way towards a soon-to-be mass genocide, who together act like a racehorse who has already turned the final corner and is bolting down the finishing line as fast as possible.

ARE YOU PREPARED???

Do you know how to handle these psychopaths???

Do you have the remedy that will truly stop all these psychopaths???

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Please tell us how paperwork, administrative processes, etc, create a consciousness that brings peace for ALL of us, INCLUDING those of the establishment? How will these processes invoke a sense of love and conscience in the members of the PTB so that they too will want to create a world of peace for ALL? How effective is a piece of paper against a gun?

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

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Reply by Shakti 1 day ago

Peter and Janis, if you live in a house (bigger than a Sydney bedsitter) and drive a (fossil fuel) car, then you are already beyond your footprint, and thus not qualified to make any comment about others. The collapse is only a couple of years away.

By the way if you use a television, refrigerator, washing machine, computer, live in a house, drive a car, can walk down to the shop and buy food, etc. etc, then you get all of these absolutely free. Apart from the fact that you are embezzled debt notes to do it, at least half the population of the earth do not have access to these things even if they had the money to pay for it.

Peter, If you are concerned with others do then how about discovering utility, instead of slavery, which seems to be where you are at the moment. Why else would you be such a grump?

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Reply by Shakti 1 day ago

As for understanding, Peter, put up or shut up. I am open to discussion but not argument. If you claim to have understanding then you must have some answers, otherwise what good is it. This is very typically Australian, whinge and do nothing. I am actually very curious to know what you are actually doing for the freeman movement, apart from discrediting it. What is it exactly that you are working hard at that you are so protective of your "taxes"?

By the way, about the A4V, the banks in America are now getting audited, because they are steeling the A4V's, monetising them, and leaving the debtor in dishonour, when it could have been resolved. This doubles the debt. Who is the scumbag?

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Reply by Derek 1 day ago

Accept the things to which fate binds you, and love the people with whom fate brings you together, but do so with all your heart.

Because your own strength is unequal to the task, do not assume that it is beyond the powers of man; but if anything is within the powers and province of man, believe that it is within your own compass also. "

The only wealth which you will keep forever is the wealth you have given away.

Marcus Aurelius

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Reply by Peter Lalor 1 day ago

Go teach your grandmother to suck eggs, I happen to have one of the smallest carbon footprints of any flesh & blood entity in southern Queensland & it will be reduced even more within the next six months. Furthermore I couldn't give a rats whether or not any collapse occurs as I arranged my affairs years ago to minimize any effect on me. Janis is likewise in a far better position than most to weather any collapse, to the point where even the sky falling in wouldn't cause her any significant angst. As for contributions to the freeman movement, some of us are making far more real progress behind the scenes than will ever be published openly. There are very good reasons which I will not elaborate on at this point why certain intelligence is being kept under lock & key, the only point I'm willing to share is that violence is NOT on the agenda.

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Reply by Arthur & Fiona Cristian 1 day ago

There will never be found a remedy in the fiction. In fact it is impossible to find a remedy in fiction to cure all the woes of the living. Only what is living can cure the ailments of the living. The perfection of LIFE (creation) is in the purity and sincerity of every thought and feeling we think, feel and act on. Fiction is the distortion to this perfection. Every emotion, thought and action of fiction represents HARM (distortion/destruction) of LIFE, to LIFE. We (MAN) are LIFE. We are creating the LIFE of the MAN/WOMAN we are creating in the image of the thoughts and feelings we act on (put our energy/power of creation into) here and now.

The greatest gift given to MAN is the power of thought and the power to feel.

To destroy (harm) LIFE we (LIFE) MUST already be destroyed (harmed). It is impossible for a conscious MAN to do harm because he/she thinks and feels (creates) ONLY a LIFE of purity and sincerity (no harm).

Harm comes out of harm (distortion/destruction) while love comes out of love, just as peace comes out of peace and freedom comes out of freedom, just us honesty comes out of honesty and respect comes out of respect, just as being dead comes out of already being dead, just as he/she must first be unconscious to act unconsciously, just as the destroyed are destroying and the harmed are doing harm.

The world (LIFE) is in the image of the thoughts and feelings we act on here and now.

If we don't take full responsibility for the harm we are creating LIFE (your life, our life) is doomed.

WE ARE LIFE or WE ARE DEAD

It's a choice.

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Reply by Shakti 1 day ago

[Peter Lalor said: There are very good reasons which I will not elaborate on at this point why certain intelligence is being kept under lock & key, the only point I'm willing to share is that violence is NOT on the agenda.]

Unless you include everyone else in your little utopia, you will definitely have to carry a gun and build walls, so much for your "no violence strategy", they will all be banging the door down wanting to come in.

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Reply by Shakti 1 day ago

Arthur, my life is Playing Music.

A virtuoso knows how to love, and in that moment life is being celebrated.

They have stolen my sound and turned it into noise, I am reclaiming it.

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Reply by Peter Lalor 1 day ago

This thread is unlikely to go anywhere, so I'm bailing out of any future discussion. I'm not in the habit of attempting to communicate with those who are obviously spaced out on who knows what.

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Reply by Adam Michael Birkbeck 23 hours ago

I totally fail to see how people who claim to be freemen can be so manipulative (as Shakti said) and just plain insulting. Not to mention those who never actually share information but are willing enough to take it...or revile the people from whom they have wanted things.

But to falsely claim that they and another are in a better position to survive any sort of collapse beggars belief, when they are NOT in such a position and the other person they mention lives off Centrelink benefits and public housing.

Where is there any honour in this? My post was put up because I wanted to make people aware that there are decent people out there who are in trouble...and publicly making it known that George Tran thinks his life is in danger for beating the banks. This one about what happened to Jerry Kane and his son (who was found shot dead face down and handcuffed, but is supposed to have been on the attack?) is about a man who stood up for his and other people's rights and HELPED them. Unlike certain people here! Instead these posts have been used by some, as usual, to carp, whinge and run down people just to big-note themselves. And then run off because they cannot debate, just argue - badly. Shakti and Derek and Arthur & Fiona are right in what they've said, as far as I am concerned.

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Sent May 28th 2010

Dear Arthur and Fiona,

I just wanted to say, don't pay too much attention to those three who were giving you such grief on here today - Janis 'Peter' and Debra just love trying to tear down anyone who disagrees with them.

I've watched them refer to Mark McMurtrie as 'Comrade Mark' and Peter certainly acts as if he knows Mark, Max Igun and Thomas Anderson, but to my knowledge he doesn't: he and Janis met Mark once, and that was in a group meeting which they were an hour late for (they didn't factor in daylight savings) and he only got info from Mark when he promised to make an official website for him, which is the last I heard of one!

Peter backed out of a meeting with Max... and I went with Janis for company. That is the one time she met Max. None know Thomas Anderson except through his books and he would never answer emails. Janis is in contact with mark via facebook, but then so am I, and I do not profess to know him.

Janis put Peter onto me, Peter put Debra onto me (I was a paralegal and they wanted some docs redrafted), but I found them all rude, angry and judgemental. Especially when I wouldn't assist them.

I find it unfair that they turn on you for a difference of opinion considering how much material they have taken from your site. I think it unfair to accuse you of taking advantage of Centrelink benefits, when Janis is on benefits (a widow's pension despite NOT being a widow) and in public housing.

I think it is great that you will see Mark; the only reason I could see that he was brought into the thread was to big-note themselves. Please ignore the nastiness of what they say...they truly are not worth worrying about.

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Hello ................

Thanks for sharing some insights into your life experience and views of life with us. It's gratefully appreciated. We don't buy into other peoples non-productive anti-life "stuff". We don't feel grief. If anything we can sometimes feel sad for what has become of our brothers and sisters of life. We are focused on waking up whoever we can reach without invalidating them.

Since 2005, we have had many many hundreds of such dealings with promoters of anti-life, all of these discussions/comments are posted in the Love For Life website, warts and all. You will find in many of these anti Arthur & Fiona Cristian comments/discussions, hatred, abuse, ridicule, nastiness, arrogance, ignorance, character assassination, etc, etc. Some are really bad but we leave them all up (hundreds of these type of comments). Everyone is entitled to share their points of view. It's not our place to deny them their freedom to express who they are. Have a read of this article:

The Battle For Our Brains
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
4th April 2010
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7288

This article reveals how most think they are free but in truth are control freaks unwilling to accept others as they are... It's interesting to experience this on an almost daily/weekly basis. During those times when we are going through difficulties the truth will always bring us closer together while lies push us further and further apart. The common denominator is the information we think, feel and act on (put our energy/power of creation into). We are creating LIFE (our lives) in the images of our making/choosing. When we contemplate on the men and women who are anti-life (we are part of life) we can zoom in to the distorted information they are creating their lives out of.

We are not into looking good or holding up a false image. We are true promoters of freedom of speech and we support everyones point of view regardless if we agree with them or not. We only sensor very foul nasty language or edit comments with links to adds. And we encourage debate, to scrutinise and contemplate all information, particularly our work We tell everyone not to believe anything we say, to use your brain and go where the logic of truth takes you. We do everything within our means/powers to inspire others to use their brains. Unfortunately most are lazy these days, they prefer to reflect what others have told them to think and feel. One of our sayings....

Whoever controls how others think & feel & causes them to act on these feelings & thoughts is given all the power by those whose thoughts & feelings are controlled. Slaves willingly create a world in their masters image.

We know Thomas Anderson (who he really is). Over the past few years we have had many lengthy discussions with him (including phone calls) on many subjects. He sent an email last night which still needs our response. Between 2006 and 2007 Mark McMurtrie has had quite a few email discussions with us. None were pleasant from his end.

We posted this article http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7315 recently which caused Mark McMurtrie to contact us by mobile phone. Like so many others lost in the morass of "emotional stuff" he assumed too many things about us that were not true. Lets see if he will visit us shortly. He was supposed to already have been and gone by now.

Debra Bentley, forgets the many many many hours of discussion she had with us since 2008 including the 1/2 day visit same year. She told us so many times how grateful she was for the work we do for free without a fee (no conditions attached/no contracts etc) and the many many hours she has spent in the Love For Life website learning and learning so much new information on so many different subjects. Even up until a two weeks ago she regularly sent us links or documents/articles to post in the Love For Life website.

Here is our correspondence with Debra Bentley ...............................................................................................

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Deb May 12 at 10:59am

Request From Mark McMurtrie
He wishes that you would remove him from your website - could you do that please?
I don't know his reasons - but he put it on his Facebook status.

Regards Deb

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Debra Bentley posted something on your Facebook Wall and wrote:

"I sent you a PRIVATE MESSAGE Arthur - just a request to remove someone's stuff from your website & you chose to publicly display that (http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7315) & cause me embarrassment for that with your extremely long rant - once again, this is the second time you & I have had a disagreement over your actions, you have offended me & betrayed my trust - sorry Arthur, Fiona & family - but I will now remove you from my FB friends - goodbye."

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Thursday May 13th 2010 at 4:59 PM

Hi Debra

Firstly, finally since 2007 Mark McMurtrie (MM) rang this morning and we had a long chat and together we cleared the air of many issues. He apologised for all his misunderstandings about us and for all his dishonours towards us. We have tried many many times to get him to have a chat with us (with no back-door). For almost three years we have embedded MM Youtube & Google videos in the Love For Life website. From the beginning we wrote to him and informed him of these actions and not once has he complained/objected. All this time MM has been flooded with men & women contacting him via the MM videos embedded in the Love For Life website and via us forwarding on these messages to his private email address. Again, not once did MM complain about this. All this time we were under the impression that these videos were posted by him or by close supporters representing MM and his best interests. He now says that he has been trying (not sure for how long) to get these videos taken down from Youtube and Google. We have now agreed to remove them from the Love For Life website which will be done shortly.

We apologised to Mark for embedding these videos.

He is planning on visiting us in the near future.

As we can't see what is posted on MM Facebook wall we had no idea that you had directly posted a comment on his wall that you would contact us. When we posted your comment to us we removed the Facebook links to you and your full name. We just left Deb in thinking that no one would know who Deb was.

We now apologise for this Debra. There was never any intention to do you harm or to make public who you were.

If we are on the right path whenever issues arise they bring us closer together rather than letting them push us apart.
If we can't be there for each other when things/issues come up then we will never be able to heal LIFE together.

Again, we are sorry for this unintentional dishonour.

Love Arthur & Fiona Cristian

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In response to your letter

15th May 2010 10:31 PM

Dear Debra,

Please take this email as it is intended; it is our pure and sincere intention to explain to you where we are coming from and why others feel effected by what we say and do. Remember - open eyes equals an open, loving heart that feels the true intent of the writer. Our intentions towards you are nothing but love. Please re-read our original postings to see if you can see where we are coming from. We feel that there are a lot of good insights in what we have written below so we will be posting this (our reply only) to the website and face book but we will ensure that there are absolutely no references to you. We will also reply to Eilish, responding to her comments but re wording it so that she can comprehend the message.

We don't question your work, the huge sacrifices you have made and continue to make to help those who are suffering as a result of those behind the system we all struggle under. We don't question the dedication of Mark, which is why we have supported the work he does despite his chronic backstabbing verbal abuse of us (since 2007 we have received many hundreds of phone calls etc from those terribly upset with Mark, even from his own family, particularly his brother, but we don't back-stab Mark and we tell them all to confront Mark and sort it out directly with him - we know he has been chronically back-stabbing us by the numerous people, all independent/unrelated of/to each other, who have told us about this, and we have never met any of them ---- originally by emails since 2007 and now again over the phone yesterday, we shared this feedback news with Mark).

We support all those who are trying to make a difference despite the fact that we have differing views to nearly all of them. How, then, can you say that we attack everyone who does not agree with us? Arthur has spent hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of unpaid hours posting the work of all those who are trying to make a difference, even if we do not agree with their approach. This is why the Love For Life website has probably the widest range of information of any uncompromised freedom/truth website on the net. Do you know that traffic is heading towards 12 million strikes this month. Do you know how many THOUSANDS have written to us thanking us, often sobbing and in rejoice, for all the work we do, that has helped them. THE EVIDENCE IS INCONTROVERTIBLE, WE HAVE REACHED MANY MILLIONS OF MEN AND WOMEN WHO KNEW NOTHING ABOUT WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON UNTIL THEY CAME ACROSS THE LOVE FOR LIFE WEBSITE. Do you know that over 95% of those who have learnt about Mark's work came originally through the Love For Life website??? This goes for almost all others including Thomas Anderson, Claude Memma and Mark Pytellek, etc, etc, and we charge nothing for this work and seek no glory for this work or pats on the back.

In fact, we are the only ones out there with a website who offer that support to ALL those trying to make a difference - nearly everyone else seems too caught up in their negative-destructive emotions, biased beliefs, faiths and viewpoints to comprehend that, unless we ignore our differences and work together, we will never overcome the rules of the divide that keep us apart. The whole freedom truth movement is rife with bitching, gossiping, fighting and VICTIMISATION (POOR ME, SOB, SOB, SOB, BLAME, BLAME, BLAME, PASS-THE-BUCK, PASS-THE-BUCK). How are we ever going to create a world of peace out of that?

We talk to anyone who wishes to talk to us and, like you, spend many many hours every week unpaid talking and corresponding to those suffering under the system, in the many different ways (disease, health, fraud, debts, paedophilia, sexual abuse, intimidation, being followed, corrupt courts/lawyers etc, media slander, electronic surveillance & electro-magnetic attacks, etc, etc,), helping them as best we can with no conditions attached. For every one victim we have sent you add another three to five hundred for all the others we are helping elsewhere. We also confront anything we see as being untrue but we DO NOT attack the messengers of what we see as being untrue unless we have the incontrovertible evidence that they are an establishment plant. You should know this because we have spent a lot of time talking to you about our views on the freeman, sovereignty, etc, movement which you are now involved in but I do not attack the living-woman you are and I support you where I can.

We all need to be prepared to examine everything we think to be true (when it comes to our Love For Life work you call it a rant which says you dismiss this work, write it off, which means you don't want to connect with what we are learning and sharing etc, so you often miss out on the truths we share and this is apparent by the way you react as reflected in your words and actions - you pull further away from us rather than bonding with us), prepared to debate and learn from each other. We wrote what we wrote not as an attack on you or Mark but to show how we will never get anywhere unless we are prepared to give up our pride and fixations with belief systems and just do what needs to be done. Sometimes the pot needs stirring and good has certainly come out of the pot being stirred this time; Mark finally rang us, we talked and he now plans to visit us when he is in Sydney soon. Great - we can be allies for each other despite differing ideas and we can support each other. No more back-stabbing.

The truth is, we have not back-stabbed anyone, have done no harm to anyone and we are not the creators (the originators) of all this negative-destructive emotion which includes whatever emotions have come up for you Debra. All we have done is bring out into the open what was already being created and being spread by those party to this negative-destructive emotion.

As we explained - we cannot see Mark's Facebook wall so we did not know that you had publicly offered to contact us. We do not see how this has damaged you - you were only the messenger. Perhaps Mark will learn that he could have just contacted us himself in the first place and explained his reasons for wanting his videos removed, thus avoiding the whole kerfuffle.

None of us have anything to hide or be embarrassed about when we are working with purity and sincerity for the good of LIFE. All this Freeman stuff about "public" and "private" plays right into the hands of the Establishment. The more we are open, the more details that are out there about the outrages being perpetrated against our brothers and sisters of LIFE, the more people will no longer be able to ignore what is going on and will be pricked by their consciences into taking some responsibility for what is going on and becoming a team player for LIFE. The more we fuss about keeping things "private", the more we are diving into "SELF-CENTEREDNESS" (POOR ME, VICTIM-MENTALITY = POWERLESSNESS AND DESTRUCTION OF WHAT GOOD WAS BEING CREATED), the less people know and the more isolated people feel when they are under attack. Unless we join together as brothers and sisters of LIFE, the Establishment will keep laughing as we bicker amongst our SELVES (which are fictions). A victim mentality is only with the one who sees themselves as a victim, someone who does not take full responsibility for the emotions they create, vent at others and blame them for the emotions they have created within their own brains.

We know and can prove that the whole freeman/sovereignty movement (including the Originie man sovereignty) is rubbish and will never bring freedom and abundance for all. However, no one in the freeman movement seems willing to debate with us about this, even though debating (without back doors) is critical to us using our brains and learning from each other. Very few are really prepared to go where the truth takes them, letting go of whatever belief systems that are keeping them from the truth. People are so fixed on their belief systems that they create a version of reality out of that belief system and place it over all information they come across, thus shielding their lives from the often uncomfortable and painful truth. This shows just how weak most men and women are and all the backstabbing, anger, arrogance, etc, that people express comes out of this unwillingness to go wherever the truth leads. The truth doesn't pull people apart, it strengthens the bonds between men and women. Only lies keep us apart and unable or unwilling to co-create a marvellous world together.

The truth does not make us angry. People do not make us angry. We become angry because of the stories we attach to what we are reading, talking about, doing, etc. If you pick an apple from a tree, does it make you angry? Does the sun make you angry? How can a man or woman talking to a group of people "make" someone angry when, for the one man or woman feeling angry, there is another feeling happy, sad, joyful, etc?

What is there to be embarrassed about?? Who are we embarrassed too? If the great Man existed long ago, do you think he was embarrassed about his body being nailed on a cross, being lashed over and over again, being spat at, having rocks thrown at him, being scorned, ridiculed, abused, tortured and tormented? Being embarrassed is a reflection of how much we worry about what others think of us and how much we pass on the responsibility for others to create our lives for us. If we take full responsibility for the man or woman we are creating with good intention, we don't have to worry about what others think of us. There will always be those brothers and sisters who feel our hearts no matter if we are short, tall, fat, thin, rich, poor, etc.

The real fight for our freedom is not between us and the system; it is about all of us growing up, taking responsibility for our thoughts, feelings and actions and learning how to be together. This is what we are concentrating on and, yes, we cause upset but the upset is not ours and we do not set out with the intention to cause upset, only with the intention to leave no stone unturned in our efforts to bring freedom, joy and abundance for ALL.

All the me, me, me, I, I, I, my home, my beliefs, my philosophies, me sovereignty, my freeman status, my money, etc, is what is keeping us apart because it is all based on negative, destructive emotions which is why people get upset when we broach these topics! If people cannot stop clinging to their beliefs, we will all drown in the mire of fear, trauma, blame, passing-the-buck and taking no responsibility, so encouraged and loved by the PTB. This is the energy of the system (IS the system) and the energy behind Wicca, Galactic Federation, religion, etc, whatever belief we cling to. These beliefs are all attempts to compensate for what we feel to be going wrong but they never work because they are still based on self-centredness and fear over what will happen to us. While we cling to beliefs, we are not free; we are still serving the masters of the system.

The truth is that nearly all of us spend nearly all our waking time serving the system and, if we don't wake up, we will just find our lives under the same masters of just another version of the same system, still apart from each other and unable to co-create with each other without the system to keep order. Most of the talk about supporting one another and joining together, etc, is just lip-service. While men and women prefer to pull away from others rather than face the truth, we will never be free. As MAN together, the Establishment have no hold over us. While we cling to the system and all its constructs, we are theirs to manipulate and traumatise.

Anyone who goes into the courts, etc, with all this negative, destructive emotion hanging around will be steam rollered. This is the stuff they thrive off. This is what we have been trying to teach Eilish because, in her present state, she is a lamb to the slaughter. She thinks she needs to keep everything "private" but she does not realise that by making her case public, we are putting pressure on the PTB because there are more eyes watching them in a case where there is a lot of sympathy for her. If she really wants to push away from us and drown in the mire of her own making, she has the free choice to do so and we will respect that BUT, perhaps, further down the track, she will appreciate what we have done for her and that by pushing her to her discomfort zone, we are helping her rid her life of the demons that got her into this situation in the first place and will allow the PTB to crush her. All her beliefs, crafts and practices in Wicca, New Age, etc, are doing nothing to help her in this situation and neither is the freeman stuff. The PTB monitor anyone they want to so they certainly know exactly who she is involved in, what she is planning, etc.

The harrowing journey she is undergoing is harrowing of her making, not ours. We are just willing to expose what is there underneath which is exactly what the system will use against her. Her emotions are entwined in her belief systems like a mish, mash, the one going hand-in-hand with the other. We willingly take the punches on the chin she throws our way but the system will use this stuff against her which is why we are showing her that she can learn from this not to take her emotions into court with her. She needs to go into court as a free woman but to be a free woman, she has to be a gift. Unless she can wake up and confront her fears, coming to terms with the lies of her beliefs, she will never go in as a free woman because she will still be bound to her beliefs and to those around her who agree with her and encourage the continuation of beliefs that are harming her and heading her to experience real harm from the PTB.

The problem with surrounding our lives with those who agree with us is that we never get to deal with our repressed garbage because it is never confronted. This is why the world is so rigidly divided into groups of "like minded" people, i.e. those who won't ruffle our feathers by making us have a look at things from another direction and will allow us to remain in denial. Our unwillingness to look at our garbage is what has us comply and continue to suck on the nipples of the private corporations.

Remember, the real war is about this. Our garbage is what feeds the system and has us cling onto the system. When we give up our garbage, we will no longer need the system and we will have returned to the real world where we are all true brothers and sisters of LIFE and all gifts for LIFE. This comes with full responsibility and very few are ready to take on this responsibility. We feel responsible for our brothers and sisters of LIFE because we choose to, not as victims or martyrs. We have taken on Eilish because we choose to because we take on the responsibility to give her our very best. What happens to her happens to all of us so if we all take on the responsibility to make sure nothing happens to her, we are making sure nothing happens to the rest of us. We are all connected, aren't we? This is the difference between lip-service and doing something. We take on the responsibility to write this email to you rather than just saying, "Oh well, Debra's angry, what can we do?" and leaving it at that.

If we are not willing to really get into each others lives and say the tough stuff, even do the tough stuff, like a parent locking up their heroin addict child so they can cleanse their bodies, we will never be doing more than talking when we say we want to help each other. You know this Debra because you walk-the-talk when it comes to helping those you help.

The work we do is all about freeing men and women of the demons of SELF (the negative, destructive emotions) that have them hang onto the system and all the blame, fear, anger, self-centredness, etc, that comes up is not ours. If you really look at the emails, articles, responses, etc we put out there, you will be unable to find examples of us attacking the men and women we are corresponding with. We don't do it, despite the fact that we cop attacks from men and women when they can no longer answer us in debate but are too chicken to admit it because then they would be admitting that what they stood for was not of the truth. It is not about us being right, Debra. We are happy to be proven wrong and will go where the truth takes us which means that we will move on from whatever we currently feel to be the truth if someone shows us otherwise. This is how we have come so far in five years; we have explored, explored and explored and let go, let go and let go.

MAN is supposed to be a gift for LIFE. There is no gift in "my" or in the demons of SELF. There is no gift in "poor me" or "you make me angry, upset, embarrassed", etc. Gifts are love, generosity, kindness, confrontation, and anything else that comes out of the intention to love another, do no harm and give your very best to another. This is the world we dream for - we don't dream for the system. True freedom is when we have nothing to hide and nothing to protect. We are free to be the sun radiating into the lives of our brothers and sisters.

We are accused of being self-noting, of seeking attention for the website, etc, etc. This is not what we live for. All we want to do is to get the information out there so that people can use their brains and debate it. We have taken on the responsibility to co-create a world of freedom, joy and abundance for all and that is the sole reason why we do what we do.

We will also forward you an email we sent today as a response to a response we got following what we wrote in relation to MM. In it we explain how even the Originie Man sovereignty is based on lies, as well as showing just how much ground we have covered over the past few years. All the evidence is there for those who want to put the effort in and research this incontrovertible evidence.

All the best to our true sister of life.

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

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That email we forwarded to Debra Bentley is now this article:

"We Will Lead Every Revolution Against Us"
So Say The Hooded Ones Of Black-Magic
By Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
22nd May 2010
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7317

We will make some further comment in reply to Deborah etc maybe later today or tomorrow.

Also: check this out, particularly the bit about Joe Bryant... http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5

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Hi Arthur and Fiona,

Thank you for your reply, it has given me a little more insight but also confirmed for me that the negativity that these guys have aimed towards me isn't an isolated instance. I fell foul of Debra simply because I am both Jewish AND indigenous in parts of my heritage (and here I mean ethnic origins, not religious, because I don't subscribe to one form over any other), and I asked her to stop inundating my personal email address with paedophilia links (I was abused as a child which is dealt with, and I didn't feel the need to be re-educated to have rage about it, if you understand? I prefer to have let go), 'Origine' 'quantum syntax' and stuff about Hebrew never having vowels (and I KNOW archaic Hebrew and the different ancient vowel systems, and they just do not equate to English). I only asked her to stop, that was all, really. And I did ask Debra for concrete contributions to a redraft she had asked me to do of a document called a 'Commonwealth Public Official' which is purported to give a sovereign freeman immunity in Australian courts. I pointed out that similar documents have had holders charged with fraud... plus the discrepancy of claiming to be a freeman under Common Law, while claiming Federal protection as a vassal of Queen Elizabeth. I don't understand how you can claim the illegitimacy of 'government' and invoke the protection of a monarch you also claim as illegitimate? Asking me brought the house down on me from them. Debra told me I was not showing due gratitude to her... but she hadn't done anything for me, only asked things from me. Unfortunately she turned Janis against me and got Peter involved (he was of the opinion the CPO document I redrafted is worth 'millions')

As to the freeman movement... all I am interested in sovereignty for is to live my life under Common Law peaceably and help others do the same... not vengeance. I know that if you charge into court claiming common law jurisdiction, you have entered into controversy and, under a commercial court, you automatically place yourself into dishonour under ITS system. With UNICITRAL being adopted, there is a way using an International Exchange Bill to protect yourself but I cannot share this with some people because they are so wrapped up in asserting jurisdiction... and showing belligerency in court *which gets them steamrollered).

I am eclectic in my approach. As to Thomas Anderson, I know the name is fictional (it's the name of the character from The Matrix after all) I just don't know why some people don't see that when they claim knowledge.
Again - thank you both:-)

Cheers

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31st May 2010

Hi .............
Fantastic, and we have taken everything you say on board.

Note: This is not a lecture.. just sharing our view...

We repeat one of our comments posted in the forum: Please tell us how paperwork, administrative processes, etc, create a consciousness that brings peace for ALL of us, INCLUDING those of the establishment? How will these processes invoke a sense of love and conscience in the members of the PTB so that they too will want to create a world of peace for ALL? How effective is a piece of paper against a gun?

The difficulty for most (particularly Peter, Janis & Debra) is getting their brains around the fact that FICTION = HARM, and no matter what form/image of fiction we think and feel, when we put our energy/power of creation into (act on) fiction we are harming & destroying who we are which is LIFE. All the harm coming out of them is the FICTION they worship in the form of distortion/impurity/insincerity that they become when that's what they put their energy into. A dead corpse state is where Peter, Janis & Debra presently reside. The consciousness embodied in their form has been severely depleted just like what happens to a bucket after puncturing many holes so it can only hold a small amount of water. The bucket (their form - who they are creating) is almost empty of LIFE/consciousness and that empty space is filled with unconsciousness = all forms of harm doing upon LIFE (reality).

To create any physical, material, intellectual form of fiction means we have to destroy LIFE and what remains is a dead corpse without LIFE (consciousness) embodied in that form/image. Then we become slaves to this dead-corpse because it needs the living to perform for it which takes men, women and children away from LIFE (reality - nature - families, tribes/villages/communities - relationships). This taking away is MANS fall from paradise/garden of Eden. Today, we have billions lost in a fairytale supporting the supposed existence of a dead-corpse world (the civilisation of commerce) at the cost of forsaking/rejecting/ignoring LIFE (reality - who we really are - what we are really part of & our true purpose). This is what this saying points too: There are many slaves fighting to wear their manacles and protesting vigorously whenever someone tries to loosen them.

We were never meant to worship anything, including nature, MAN, God, etc, but that is what the believers of any form/image of fiction are doing. We are actually destroying who we are until there is nothing left of who we are (LIFE) to remind us who we really are.

We have documented all facets of this spiritual suicide and if you are interested in learning what we have been unravelling from outside the square since 2005 please read the articles posted here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 and the podcasts & videos posted here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7309 - We are ONLY interested in REMEDY and with the help of others along the way we have unravelled the remedy as well. You are always most welcome to contact us and if you ever feel inspired to co-create KINDOM (do no harm communities, the remedy) with us and us with you & others, do not hesitate to get in touch with us. If you want to have a long chat over the phone, we can ring you on the voip (we don't use skype for moral/ethical reasons) so send us your land-line number and we can call you for free and chat for as long as required.

If we are on the right path whenever issues arise they bring us closer together rather than letting them push us apart.
If we can't be there for each other when things/issues come up then we will never be able to heal LIFE together.

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

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1st June 2010

Hey guys,

No, I didn't take your last message as a lecture at all...I actually appreciate it when people explain their point of view.

I have decided that I really do not like this site or most of the people on it. They are rife with bile and anger generally and there is so little on here that is constructive.

VioL8d, who is a site admin, has told me that my response to having Janis post MY research as being something she found from being pointed to it by some fictitious facebook friend is a personal attack, no matter how subtle.

She lied, outright and bald-faced. How am I the one to blame for pointing out that it was an untruth? Or put on the spot and held accountable when told that I should share the court process I discovered when I gave enough clues how to research it themselves, without handing it to people who wish me harm, on a platter?

Peter doesn't get told off like that... and he uses the foulest language and NEVER offers anything concrete in the way of a remedy, he only ever tears people down and abuses them. And there are other people who are hinting all the time that they have the solutions to problems but will let others sort out how to do it.... Karl does that all the time. Globalman, bitter divorce or not, and justified in his stance against some people on this site or not, is still a very misogynistic man. I am sorry guys, but if I'd have been his wife I don't know how I could have restrained myself from killing him and keeping everything, lol He is very intelligent though.

I was not very polite in my response to Viol8d. I pointed out the hypocrisy quite graphically. And I am afraid I said that I don't give a rat's for his opinion when someone gets criticised by an admin for pointing out a simple fact (an easily exposed lie) while those who run over anyone at will are allowed and encouraged to do so? I might not be here much longer.

No wonder this site has so few members. GAz had complained to me that freemen in Australia constantly bitch at each other, back-stab, lie and steal without recognition. And yet, it is encouraged under the guise of 'freedom of expression.' One simply cannot deal with these people and remain in honour. On a minor note... their inability to spell infuriates me, lol.

I do understand what you are saying about LIFE and the enormous expenditure of negative energy of these people. My own personal conclusion about their 'dead corpse state' is that they are happy, in their ways, with a new god: instead of YHWH they have TPTB (or just PTB, Powers-That-Be). I guess that not creating something positive and focusing on everything possible that is negative can give some comfort. But it is not constructive, is it?

Personally I use the term 'energy vampires' for these kinds of people...because they do draw the energy out of others and feed on it.

I have an ACN Iris3000 VoiP digital videophone home phone. It's blu-ray (has it's own HD 7 inch screen, doesn't go through the computer but does use the adsl connection. All my local and national calls are free. Plus I can call anyone anywhere in the world with one and its free, too. There will be 267 million of these in circulation by 2012, so that is pretty good. I don't use skype, never did like it.

Right now though I am busy trying to use the strategies with my bank to clear my mortgage, pretty much the way George Tran has, so while do fully intend to check out the links you have given me and I am interested in your kingdom concept, a lot depends on how this month goes for me.

My home number is ................................ Wherever I move to, that number remains the same as the number is tied to the phone, not the house.

I often let it go to voicemail first though and call back to the number that is left in a message... as Janis and company got it, (Janis has one also) and she still gets people to call, so I am screening.

I would certainly enjoy talking to you both,

Cheers
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2nd June 2010

"I don't want to lie on my yoga mat, think peace and do nothing." The Powers That Be have designed a thousand and one distractions to prevent us from co-creating remedy. We expend so much energy on truth, freedom, peace & prosperity for all without ever creating it. We have created a dream but we refuse to give it life.
Arthur Cristian

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The Cristian Family November 2006

We Stand For NO SYSTEM

Kindom (Do No Harm Communities) is the dream for freedom, but it is the dream for the freedom of those around us who also live the dream of freedom, because it is in living for the freedom of others that we get our freedom. When we live for the dreams of Kindom of those around us, we live life as a gift because we live for (dedicate our lives to) their dream of freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, etc, just as they live for our Kindom dreams too. This is true co-creation (cooperation) with no attack on the uniqueness of each of us. When we live this way, we have no need for any man-made system - everything/everyone has already been taken care of by our love for life.

Just as we do not have to jump 10 feet across the room to grab our next breath, neither do we have to worry about food, water and shelter because it has all been taken care of as we each co-create Kindoms/Kin-Domains for everyone. Now everybody and everything of the dream of life that is Kindom/Paradise is free (has been set free once again). The issue is greed and selfishness, power and control trips, arrogance, ignorance, being fed many many lies and being traumatised. The issue is not overpopulation - there is more than enough land available for every family to have a hectare (2.5 acres Kin-Domain) to care for. The land of Australia can provide a Kin-Domain for every family across Earth, each with a food forest, clean fresh drinking water and plenty of space for building natural do no harm habitats and with plenty of land left over.

Everyone must have the freedom to take full-responsibility for their lives, for the water they drink, the food they eat and for their shelter. Currently, "The System" forces everyone to give up taking full-responsibility so that we become grown up children accustomed to sucking on the nipples of "The System" corporations for everything, having to use money to get by and to follow the rules of money because we are not co-creating freedom, peace, truth, joy and abundance for each other. Money only leads to haves and have nots and all the abuse, manipulation and distractions that we are subjected to as slaves to money.

When we give up living for other's Kindom dreams, we start creating hell ("The System") all around us because we become self-centred - now it's all about "my freedom","my money", "my land", "my belief", "my saviour", "mine", "mine","mine", "i","i", "i", "own", "own", "own", etc. To protect what we claim we own requires a man-made system with FORCE to protect those self-centred claims. This is ALL trauma based and all story-telling (brainwashing/braindirtying).

NO SYSTEM = KINDOM/DO NO HARM COMMUNITIES
NO SYSTEM = KINDOM/DO NO HARM COMMUNITIES photo Kindom_zpsa6d24e8a.jpg

Our true freedom comes when we set our thoughts of freedom into motion so that we live freedom rather than just talking and thinking about it while we still slave for "The System". Kindom will not happen while we meditate for hours in the bush or do yoga retreats or wait for Jesus or follow the processes of the OPPT (One People's Public Trust now called One People). This is not freedom because we are not living freedom because we are living the story-telling of Jesus or Zeitgeist or The Secret or Thrive or One Earth/Consciousness/People.

Living Kindom is very, very hard work as we set about repairing the damage to MAN/Earth/Nature that we are ALL responsible for but the burden becomes lighter the more of us put our life-energy into the dream of returning Earth to Paradise. Day-after-day, we all have to work our arses off until Kindom is all around us (MAN) once again. This is the price we pay to set each other free on a piece of land (Kin-Domain), so that no one is under the image-power (education/brainwashing/story-telling) of another MAN anymore and so that everyone can have their space of love to create and live their unique, do no harm dreams. This only happens once we have the Kindoms set up so that everyone is provided for.

Once we re-create the food forests, whether on land or in the suburbs, we can re-claim our freedom, breaking the strangle-hold of "The System" because we are no longer reliant on its services and benefits and no longer turning each other into slaves of "The System", cogs in the wheels of "The System" machine. If we don't put the effort in to set everyone and everything free all around us then we still live in HELL ("The System"). The key is to live for everyone else's freedom so that we can have it too.

From Bare Dirt To Abundance
A Year In The Life Of The
Love For Life Food Forest

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
8th February 2013
51 Minutes 46 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A

From Bare Dirt To Abundance Part Two A
5th November 2014
http://youtu.be/TPTPn8tgcPI
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8545

From Bare Dirt To Abundance Part Two B
Coming Shortly

We live for NO SYSTEM. We do not lose anything by not having a man-made system and, in fact, we gain. We gain our freedom and we gain abundance. Let go of the fear.

The Cristian Family November 2006

A Collection Of Various Love For Life Posts
Providing The Big Picture We See

Sequential Order

We ask you to NOT believe anything we say/share and instead use scrutiny like an intense blow torch and go where the logic of truth/sense takes you. This is very, very important. Put everything you believe up to the test of scrutiny to see how it stacks up. If you are true to your heart/senses and go where the logic of truth/sense takes you will find that NO belief, etc, will stand up to the test of scrutiny. They just do not stack up because they are lies/fraud.

After you have watched and read all the material and any questions are left unanswered, send us your landline number and we will use the internet phone as a free unlimited call. We are on Sydney NSW Australia time. Best times for us to chat are between 11.00am and 6.00pm.

It is critical that you fully comprehend Image Power, "Spelling", Trauma, Reaction To Trauma, Curses, Processing Curses, Full-Responsibility/Liability, Limited Liability/Responsibility (passing-the-back), Slavery, Senses/Sense vs Non-Sense/Senses, Re-Presenting Intellectual Property such as but not limited to "Name", Storytelling/Storytellers, Duality, Black-Magic, Belief, Lies, "i", All Seeing "i" (eye), etc..... These themes and others are covered over and over and over again.

If you do not comprehend these insights and are unable to use your senses to sense your way through all the non-sense/non-sensory-images that enslave MAN under their image power (darkness = "The System" = Hell), men and women will remain deeply trapped under a terrible state of trauma. Our intention is to inspire you to remedy by showing you how to move away from reacting to trauma in all its nefarious and devious forms.

IMAGE POWER
Superb Diamond Range Interviewing
Arthur & Fiona Cristian 4th February 2014
http://youtu.be/qFnuuw3kLog
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8501

His-Story/Her-Story (History)
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
2005-2007 - Re-posted July 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8529

The Dream Of Life Part 6
Under The Spell Of Intellectual Property

Arthur Cristian - 51 Minutes 52 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMK7CkU1ih8

Trauma Induced Fantasy
July 2013 Interview With
Jeanice Barcelo And Arthur & Fiona Cristian
http://youtu.be/CZVj-ddUoZw
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8500

The Dark Side Of The Moon
The Background To "The System"

Arthur & Fiona Cristian Interviewed By
Jahnick Leaunier, The Tru-Mon Show
24th August 2016
Love For Life - 142 Minutes
https://youtu.be/C5TViw1NLr4

Eric Dubay's Flat Earth Is A Cult
The Background To The System Part Two

Arthur & Fiona Cristian Chatting With
Jahnick Leaunier On The Tru-Mon Show
Love For Life - 31st August 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8585
154 Minutes
https://youtu.be/rCPWgEQg-2M

Eclipse Of The Sun - Video (Arthur swears in this video)
The Background To The System Part Three
Arthur & Fiona Cristian Chatting With
Jahnick Leaunier On The Tru-Mon Show
Love For Life - 25th October 2016
https://youtu.be/FMOsOi1kNRc

The "Name" Is The Mark Of The Beast
The Strawman Identifying
Your Slave Status In "The System"

By Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
5th February 2012 - 56 Minutes 25 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdOag66v7uo

The Satanic Craft Of Inculcation In Practice
Fiona's ACT Supreme Court Affidavit Explaining Inculcation & Illumination
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
4th March 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8578

The Spinning Top
Full Bloom Inculcation

Arthur And Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
Facebook Discussions Between The
8th December 2016
And
26th January 2017
Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/16/03/04/satanic-craft-inculcation-pra...

The Shit Of Death
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
28th January 2017
Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/16/03/04/satanic-craft-inculcation-pra...

The Selfie Of Freakenstein
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
17th March 2017
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8588

Three Sets Of Fiona Cristian Documents Filed With ACAT
Merged Into One Document For Downloading
https://www.scribd.com/document/327370355/Fiona-Cristian-Affidavit-ACT-S...

Fiona Cristian Affidavit
ACT Supreme Court / Court Of Appeal

https://www.scribd.com/doc/316218306/Three-Sets-of-Fiona-Cristian-Docume...

Dancing With Magic (Lies)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Videos, Articles, Comments
And Pending E-Book
Love Fort Life
September 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8575

Dancing With Magic Part One
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
5th September 2015
https://youtu.be/hx7qJ7r2OS4

Dancing With Magic Part Two
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
12th September 2015
https://youtu.be/b_KuEFdKmnA

Dancing With Magic Part Three
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
13th September 2015
https://youtu.be/9pJc1NfnAcI

Dancing With Magic (Lies) Part Four:
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
16th September 2015
https://youtu.be/kSVURGwm1Go

Introduction To Kindom Video
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
6th March 2015
https://youtu.be/7SspPm9wRgo

To Be Educated Is To Have No Soul
The System Is Soul Destroying

Frederick Malouf & Michael Tellinger's
Contrived Gifting
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
1st September 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8586

Illumination IS Definition
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
26th to 29th January 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8577

IMAGE POWER
The Nefarious Tactics Used
To Disguise Truth And Distract Us
From Remedy

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
24th January 2014
This post contains many recent Facebook comments
and email replies which collectively provides a big picture
into exposing the deception behind IMAGE POWER.
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8496

The Pull Of E-Motion
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
8th February 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8499

Processing Curses
A Lie Is A Curse
Liars Process Curses

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
26th February 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8503

How The System Is Really Constructed
Bouncing Back Curses Upon Curse Makers
To Stop Harm Forevermore

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
27th February 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8504

Slave To A Name
Parts One, Two, Three, Four,
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd to 6th March 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8505

Educated Slaves
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
20th March 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8506

The Only Path To Freedom
Beware The False Steps

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 2nd April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8508

Free-Dumb For All
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 5th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8510

Revoking The Ego
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 8th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8511

How MAN Commits Spiritual Suicide
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life - 3rd April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8509

How To Detect Intel Operatives Working
For The New World Order Agenda
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 10th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8512

How The Psyop Program & Intel Networks
Are Messing With Your Head +
His-Story/Her-Story

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8513

Godzilla Through The Looking Glass
Destroyed By Name"

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 20th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514

What It's Going To Take
To Co-Create Freedom Forevermore

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 22nd April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514

Falling For Fairy Stories
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 24th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514

A Disassociation From The Work
Of Kate of Gaia

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 17th May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8517

Separating The Wheat From The Chaff
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 22nd May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8516

Revolution Or Revolution
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 25th May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8520

Routing Out Psyop Programs
Routs Out Intel Operatives
Exposing Max Igan's Psyop Program

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 31st May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8524

The Psyop Program Scam
Behind Religion Belief Faith
& Associated Opinion

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
11th June 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8525

Another Delusion
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
11th June 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8526

A World Of Words Is A World Of Lies
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
13th June 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8527

E-MAN
The Name Of The Beast Is MAN

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 9th May 2014
Includes Mountain MAN Arrested
Facebook Discussion About "Name"
Uploaded 25th June 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8528

E-Motion
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 13th August 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8537

Discussion With Brother Gregory
Clearly Demonstrating Christianity
Is Part Of The Problem
And Not The Solution

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
Between the 12th May 2014 and 30th August 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8542

The Psyop Program Behind Free Food
And Permaculture

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
29th October 2014
Facebook Discussion With Unconditional Love Moon
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8544

Head So Strong
Music and Vocals Arthur Cristian
Backing Vocals and Vocal Effects Arthur Cristian & Hannah Wood
Lyrics Fiona and Arthur Cristian
Written during our spare time between Aug & Oct 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG4UQCTsqwU

The Time Of Trauma That Destroys Us
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
9th November 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8547

The Most Powerful Video On Spirituality
And Happiness FOR SLAVES
Or
How To Accept Slavery And Be Happy About It

Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
6th August 2014
Facebook Discussion About The Work Of Eckhart Tolle
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8548

What Can We Do What Can We See
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
A series of Arthur Cristian Facebook
posts and discussions
between 17th and 21st November 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8552

The Misuse Of Love By Intel Networks
To Create Doubt And Uncertainty
With The Intention To Destroy Love
And Therefore Destroy MAN
(True Freedom, Peace, Joy, Abundance And Truth
For Everyone)

By Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
26th November 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8554

The Void Of E-GO That Is Spiritual Suicide
The Justification Of Laziness
That Perpetuates System Creature Comforts
Ensuring Our Fall

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
13th December 2014
Massive Update Occurred 14th Dec 2014 3.10pm Sydney Aust time
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8556

Darkness Visible Part One A, B, C, D
The Freemasonic World In Plain Sight
Decoding George Washington Lithographs

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
14th December 2014
Part One A http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8557
Part One B http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8567
Part One C http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8568
Part One D http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8569

Darkness Visible Part Two
Yin And Yang, Duality, Spiritual Suicide
And Frank O'Collins UCADIA / One Heaven

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
14th December 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8558

Darkness Visible Part Three
How The Word Sausage
Re-Presents The New World Order
Boiling Point & Out To Get Us

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
27th December 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8560

Darkness Visible Part Four
Aleister Crowley - Thelema - OTO
And The Black Magic Psychedelia Of The Intellect

Facebook Discussion
4th to 10th January 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8561

Darkness Visible Part Five
Living MAN Fiona Cristian's Standing
+ Decoding Judeo/Judaism

Fiona Cristian & Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
24th January 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8562

Darkness Visible Part Six
The Many Fingers Of The Hidden Hand Appearing
YouTube Community Flagged A Video
Posted To The ArthurLoveForLife YouTube Channel
As Being "Hate Speech"

Fiona Cristian & Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
4th February 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8563

Darkness Visible Part Seven
The Full Responsibility For Setting
True Freedom For All Into Motion
In Present-Sense Forevermore

Fiona Cristian & Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
10th February 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8564

Who We Really Are Does Not End
At The Surface Of Our Skin

Arthur Cristian & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 22nd February 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8565

Introduction To Kindom Video
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
6th March 2015
https://youtu.be/7SspPm9wRgo

The Rot Parts One, Two, Three
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
5th June 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8571

"The Good Guys" And The "Bad Guys"
Working Together To Bring In
The New World Order

Arthur Cristian - 18th July 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8572

Can You Spot The Ego?
Where's Wally? Part One

Compilation of Facebook & Youtube
Insight Posts During Aug/Sept 2015
By Arthur Cristian
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8573

Can You Spot The Ego?
Where's Wally? Part Two

Compilation of Facebook & Youtube
Insight Posts During Aug/Sept 2015
By Arthur Cristian
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8576

Dancing With Magic (Lies)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Videos, Articles, Comments
And Pending E-Book
Love Fort Life
September 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8575

Dancing With Magic Part One
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
5th September 2015
https://youtu.be/hx7qJ7r2OS4

Dancing With Magic Part Two
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
12th September 2015
https://youtu.be/b_KuEFdKmnA

Dancing With Magic Part Three
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
13th September 2015
https://youtu.be/9pJc1NfnAcI

Dancing With Magic (Lies) Part Four:
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
16th September 2015
https://youtu.be/kSVURGwm1Go

Illumination IS Definition
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
26th to 29th January 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8577

The Satanic Craft Of Inculcation In Practice
Fiona's ACT Supreme Court Affidavit Explaining Inculcation & Illumination
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
4th March 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8578

The Dark Side Of The Moon
The Background To "The System" Part One

Arthur & Fiona Cristian Chatting With
Jahnick Leaunier On The Tru-Mon Show
Love For Life - 24th August 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8583

Eric Dubay's Flat Earth Is A Cult
The Background To The System Part Two

Arthur & Fiona Cristian Chatting With
Jahnick Leaunier On The Tru-Mon Show
Love For Life - 31st August 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8585

To Be Educated Is To Have No Soul
The System Is Soul Destroying
Frederick Malouf & Michael Tellinger's
Contrived Gifting

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
1st September 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8586

New Love For Life Kindom Facebook Group
Started March 2015
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1434747556816918
Includes 63 Minute
Introduction To Kindom Video
https://youtu.be/7SspPm9wRgo
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
and
Facebook Kindom Group Guidelines
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8566
The Love For Life website home-page provides
the bigger-picture background to the themes
touched on in this video: http://loveforlife.com.au

Crop Circles Are A Massive Hoax
Facebook Discussion On Simon Kawai's Wall
Involving Arthur & Fiona Cristian
31st August 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8470

OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
27th February 2013 onwards...
Part One: http://youtu.be/Qjp_9nlrBao
Part Two: http://youtu.be/tbybeOWZ-Bc
Part Three: http://youtu.be/yOWoxH-HbVw

Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 8th February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8350
Part One: http://youtu.be/4ze66_33wxM - 70 Minutes 5 Seconds
Part Two: http://youtu.be/43gIi-sjxJc - 81 Minutes 13 Seconds
Part Three: http://youtu.be/oooY6W63K-M - 70 Minutes 18 Seconds

What Do You Believe On Origins?
Who Said There Was A Beginning?
Who's Truth Do You Accept?
Belief Is A Strange Idea.

Discussion Lyndell, Scott and Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Between March and April 2013
Posted 29th October 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8487

So You Want The Good Bits Of "The System"
But Not The Bad Bits?

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 12th August 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8468

Turning Away From The Reflection
Of MANS Looking Glass

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
30th April 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8404

REMEDY

From Bare Dirt To Abundance
A Year In The Life Of The
Love For Life Food Forest

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
8th February 2013
51 Minutes 46 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A

From Bare Dirt To Abundance Part Two
5th November 2014
http://youtu.be/TPTPn8tgcPI
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8545

From Bare Dirt To Abundance Part Three
7th March 2016
60 Minutes
https://youtu.be/SH9i8ZStzWI

Love For Life Food Forest & Native Garden March 2016
Extension Of The Love For Life Food Forest And Establishment
Of A New Native Garden At The Front Of The Rental Property
In East Bowral - 24th October 2015 to Mid February 2016.
15 Minutes
https://youtu.be/y-Uz8HmnSIM

Control The Land
And You Control MAN On The Land
Displace MAN From Land
And You Turn MAN Into Slaves

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
April 2011 (Updated 14th September 2011)
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8237

The Divine Spark
Facebook Discussion With Raymond Karczewski
Arthur & Fiona Cristian & Others
2nd October 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8483

Capturing Another MANS Uniqueness
A Facebook Debate With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
And Raymond Karczewski
Starting 13th May 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8414

The Spell Is Broken
Taking The Land To Create Kindom

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8365

The Steps Of Kindom
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life 2006/2007
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

To explore these themes in greater detail go here where you can find links to all our Love For Life comments, articles, debates, discussions, videos, podcasts, etc: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385

All the best
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

Website: http://loveforlife.com.au
Email : action@loveforlife.com.au
Mobile : 0011 61 418 203204 - (0418 203204)
Snail Mail: PO Box 1320 Bowral 2576 NSW Australia
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Peaceful Transition Through Sacrifice And Service

We feel there is an essential peaceful do no harm transition required to get all of MAN back to standing on MANS feet without reliance upon another MAN for water, food, shelter. As it stands everyone in "The System" are highly dependent and reliant on the "group mind-set" that forms "The System" of slaves providing services and benefits for the emotionally addicted slaves to "The System" (and you can put us in the same basket too). The transition is to get MAN back to relying ONLY on nature without 3rd party interlopers, intermeddlers, interceders getting in the way. The transition is a team effort with the foresight for setting all of MAN free down-the-line so that MAN is no longer dependent on slaves and masters providing services, benefits, privileges and exclusivity while being bound to contracts, rituals, procedures, conditions, rules & regulations which compromises MAN severely.

This transition is all about shifting from limited liability/responsibility to full liability/responsibility. This full responsibility is all about caring for our health, nature all around us, clean uncorrupted (pure) water and food, partner/co-creator, children, shelter, animal-friends in partnership, etc. In "The System", we are already together destroying each other - we have to come together to create peace together so that we can all have peace. We cannot live peacefully when we are islands, not taking full responsibility for the lives of those around us until EVERYONE can take full responsibility for their life, which means that EVERYONE is healed of system trauma. In "The System", we all come together to make slaves of each other - now is the moment to come together to set each other free, to live for each other's freedom, peace, joy and abundance. Once we have set each other free, we are free.

Control The Land
And You Control MAN On The Land
Displace MAN From Land
And You Turn MAN Into Slaves

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
April 2011 (Updated 14th September 2011)
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8237

The Spell Is Broken
Taking The Land To Create Kindom

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8365

"The Steps Of Kindom"
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

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Once we fix these issues, we or our children or our descendants to come, can start focusing on the even bigger picture of getting back to where our ancestors were, as breatharyan's, before they fell into non-sense images to be enslaved by them.

All the best to you and your family
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

The Cristian Family November 2006

The Cristian Family Declaration

The Cristian family and The Love for Life Campaign are apolitical, non-religious, non-violent, anti weapons, anti drugs (both pharmaceutical and recreational) and anti any ideology that denies the existence of Do No Harm Communities (Kindoms) and suppresses the uniqueness and freedom of all men, women and children.

The Cristian family and our Love For Life work is unaligned to any big business corporation, intelligence agency, government body, "system" law, "system" think tanks, "system" green or environmental movements, religion, cult, sect, society (fraternity, brotherhood, sisterhood, order, club, etc,) secret or not, hidden agenda, law or sovereignty group, occult, esoteric, New Age or Old Age.

The Cristian family supports and promotes the remedy that brings an everlasting peace, freedom, truth, joy, abundance and do no harm for all of life without causing loss of uniqueness or the need for having slaves and rulers. We are not into following the one in front or being shepherds for sheeple. Most importantly, we take full-responsibility for everything we think, feel and do.

The Cristian family are not Christians.

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

December 2006

The Cristian Family November 2006

THE CRISTIAN FAMILY PLEDGE

Being of clear brain, heart and intention, we each declare the following to be true:

• We have no intention of ending our own lives.

• We will not tolerate suppression of truth, ideas, freedom, or our work. We stand for freedom of speech.

• We stand together to support others in the expression of truths and freedom to speak out no matter how radical those ideas may seem.

• Standing for freedom takes courage; together we shall be strong in the face of all odds.

• If it is ever claimed that we have committed suicide, encountered an unfortunate accident, died of sickness/disease, disappeared, been institutionalized, or sold out financially or in any other way to self-interested factions, we declare those claims false and fabricated.

• We testify, assert and affirm without reservation, on behalf of all those who have dedicated their lives to the ending of secrecy and the promotion of freedom of thought, ideas and expression that we shall prevail.

• We Do Not Have Multiple Personality Disorders

Arthur Cristian
Fiona Cristian
Jasmin Lily Cristian
Emma Rose Cristian
Frances Hannah Cristian
Xanthe Jane Cristian

15th December 2006 (Edited/Updated 18th September 2011)

The Cristian Family November 2006

Update Regarding The Love For Life
Home Page And Quick User Guide

We are turning the Love for Life Quick User Guide http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608 into a blog of all the main insights of our work since March 2005, whether through articles, videos, podcasts or discussions/debates.

As we do not have the time to compile everything we have written into a book, as many have suggested we do, compiling all our most important work into one area of the website is a way of providing easy access to this work so those interested are able to fully comprehend the big picture.

Instead of having to find our different articles, videos, etc, in various parts of the website, it will all be accessible here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385.

Love For Life Videos

As amateurs and posted in the Quick User Guide below the Facebook links, we're currently creating and posting a series of videos called "The Dream Of Life" which covers the ground of all the Love For Life insights. We plan to have the videos completed by December 31st 2012. Once this is behind us, our intention is to create a 2 hour or so video covering the body of this work. All videos are embedded in the quick user guide http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608 and uploaded in Arthur's YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/ArthurLoveForLife.

Love For Life Music

We have started recording songs, with others, that express the themes of Love For Life. They are now being posted on Arthur's YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/ArthurLoveForLife and are embedded in the quick user guide http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608. We have over 100 songs to record. A few rough demos have already been used as the soundtrack on the first "Dream of Life" video.

About Us - Love For Life & The Cristian Family

Also, everything we, the Cristian family, have gone through, from bank fraud and the theft of the family home to death threats and attempts on Arthur's life, is documented in the Quick User Guide too. If you, the reader, are prepared to put the effort in, you will comprehend the extent to which we have all been tricked into becoming slaves, giving up our uniqueness and our full-responsibility for life and destroying everything of life to the point where life is in danger of dying out completely. You will also comprehend the remedy to all this chaos; a remedy that requires only love for life and the determination to do what needs to be done. Though our focus is very strongly on the remedy that creates a world of freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance and Do No Harm for all of life without loss of uniqueness or the need for slaves and rulers, we realise that it is vital to comprehend how to get there and what stops us from getting there. This is why there is so much information on the hows and whys of everything going wrong in the world today. We are not into peddling conspiracy theories, we are into routing out all forms of organised crime.

Saturday 26th November 2011

Arthur and Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

Website: http://loveforlife.com.au
Email: action@loveforlife.com.au
Mobile: 0011 61 418 203204 - (0418 203204)
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Register To The Love For Life Mailing List: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/09/05/14/mailing-list

1. For The Body Of The Love For Life Work by Arthur and Fiona Cristian

Which Unravels The Reasons For The Chaos, Mayhem and Confusion Being Experienced In The World Today, Explains The Need For "Community Immunity" and Responsibility, and Focuses On The Creation Of Kindoms - Do No Harm, Life-Sustainable Communities (As The Remedy That Heals All Mans Woes) - And How We Can Co-Create Them. For Comments, Articles And Discussions, Go Here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 - Also Go Here To See Podcasts And Videos Posted by Arthur & Fiona Cristian: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7309 - The Information Shared Comes From Inspiration, Intuition, Heartfelt-Logic And Information Gathered From Nature And Many Amazing Men And Women Along The Way. It Is Not Found In Any Books Or Channellings, Or Talked About By "Experts". Go Here To Read A Brief Synopsis Of Why We Started Love For Life: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8182

2. For Information About The Ringing Cedars of Russia Series

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1125 and for more on Eco Homes, Villages, Organic and Permaculture Gardening and Life-Sustainability, etc, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3641 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1985 and Mikhail Petrovich Shchetinin - Kin's School - Lycee School at Tekos: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5173

3. For How To Eat A Raw, Living Food Diet,

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5068 - LIFE is information. When we distort LIFE and then eat, drink, absorb, think, feel, hear, see, touch, taste, smell and perform these distortions, the information of LIFE, your LIFE, our LIFE, our children's lives, everyone's LIFE, is distorted.

4. To Find A Menu For The Extensive Research Library (over 8,000 items posted embodying over 11,000 documents, pdf's, videos, podcasts, etc)

Which Covers Topics From Health to Chemtrails/Haarp to Brain Control to Archaeology to Astronomy Geocentricity Heliocentricity to Pandemics Bird Flu Swine Flu to Fluoride to Cancer to Free Energy to Global Warming, 9/11, Bali Bombings, Aspartame, MSG, Vaccinations, Aids/HIV, Mercury, New World Order, Satanism, Religions, Cults, Sects, Symbolism, etc, etc, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/82

5. If You Would Like To Read About The Cristian Family NSW Supreme Court Case

(Macquarie Bank/Perpetual Limited Bank Fraud Condoned By Judges, Registrars, Barristers, Lawyers, Politicians, Public Servants, Bureaucrats, Big Business and Media Representatives - A Crime Syndicate/Terrorist Organisation) Which Prompted The Creation Of This Love For Life Website December 2006, And The Shooting And Torture Of Supporters Who Assisted Us In Reclaiming The Family Home, Joe Bryant And His Wife, Both In Their Late 70's, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5 And Read Some Of Our Email Correspondence With Lawyer Paul Kean - Macedone Christie Willis Solari Partners - Miranda Sydney May 17th-June 27th 2006: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7300

6. For The Stories Of Other Victims Of The System,

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/australian_stories (If you have a story you would like us to put up, we would love to here from you:
action @ loveforlife.com.au)

7. For Documentation Of Harm Done By The Powers-That-Be And Their Representatives,

Evidence Revealing How Victims Did Not Break The Peace, Caused No Crime or Harm, There Were No Injured Parties. Documenting Incontrovertible Evidence Demonstrating How The Powers That Be (PTB) And Their Lackeys Will Break All The Laws They Are Supposed To Uphold. They Will Kidnap, Intimidate, Terrorise, Rape, Pillage, Plunder And Lie And Take Responsibility For None Of It. All Part Of Their Tactics Of Using Fear And Trauma To Keep Us In Our Place. Relatives Of Those Under Their Radar Are Also Not Safe From Attack And Intimidation. All Starting From A $25 Fine For Not Voting And A $65 Fine For Not Changing A Dog Registration. We Do Not Have Freedom And Can Only Appear To Have Freedom If We Comply. Regardless How Small The Matter The PTB Throw Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars Away To Enforce Their Will.... Go Here:
Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office - Part One to Part Ten - From 17th October 2008 And Still Continuing:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6319 or
Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office
Part One: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5742 - From 17th October 2008
Part Two: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6135 - From 18th December 2008
Part Three: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6295 - From 9th January 2009
Part Four: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6296 - From 14th January 2009
Part Five: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6375 - The Sick Puppy - From 20th February 2009
Part Six: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6390 - Police Officers, Sheriff’s Officers, Tow Truck Driver and State Debt Recovery Office Blatantly Ignore the Law To Rape, Pillage and Plunder The Private Property Of Fiona Cristian - From 11th March 2009
Part Seven: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6445 - Affidavit Of Truth - Letter To The Queen + Australia: Fascism is Corporatism - From 30th March 2009
Part Eight: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6652 - The Pirates Auction And The Ghost Of VSL386 - From 4th April 2009
Part Nine: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7073 - Arthur Cristian's Letter To Pru Goward MP - From 15th December 2009
Part Ten: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7500 - Should We Be In Fear Of Those Who Claim To Protect Us? "Roman Cult" Canon Law - Ecclesiastical Deed Poll - The Work Of Frank O'Collins - From 13th October 2010

8. If You Are Interested In Information On Freedom From Statutes, Rule-Of-Law, Free Man/Free Woman, Strawman, "Person" and Admiralty Law (The Law Of Commerce),

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/895 - For Common Law, Democracy, Constitution, Trial By Jury, Fee Simple, etc, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/category/main/law-articles-documents

9. If You Are Interested In Banking and Money Created (Fiat/Credit/Debt/Mortgage/Loan/Overdraft etc) Out-Of-Thin-Air, How Banks Counterfeit Money,

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/banks

10. For A List Of All The Latest Posts In The Love For Life Website,

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/tracker

11. For Links To Many Hundreds Of Videos, DVDs And Podcasts

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/video_dvd

12. To See The Cristian Family Pledge, Legal and other Disclaimers

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/06/12/05/love-life-legal-disclaimer

13. To Read About How A Representative Of The NSW Jewish Board Of Deputies Had Threatened To Shut Down The Love For Life Website

go here: Part One: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6616 Part Two: THE STEVE JOHNSON REPORT AND VIDEO: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6665 and Part Three: Latest Update On James Von Brunn: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6673

Conscious Love Always
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
action @ loveforlife.com.au
www.loveforlife.com.au
0418 203204 (int: 0011 61 418 203204)
PO Box 1320 Bowral 2576 NSW Australia

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THE CRISTIAN FAMILY SUPPORTS
FREEDOM OF SPEECH - FREEDOM OF THOUGHT

The Cristian Family November 2006

Posted Wednesday 17th June 2009
Updated September 2011

NSW Jewish Board Of Deputies
Has Threatened To Shut Down
The Love For Life Website

No Freedom Of Speech - No Freedom Of Thought

Love For Life does not support harm doing in any shape or form. However, we are supporters of free speech and post articles, documentaries, etc, that represent a wide cross section of ideas. See the Love For Life extensive research library where over 6000 documents, articles and videos are posted: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/82. We clearly see the evidence of the destruction to MAN and the earth that has been caused by ALL religions over the centuries and are therefore not supporters of religions, cults, sects or any group that demands conformity of thought, speech or action, or has rules, regulations or rituals that must be followed. Religions, nationalities and cultural "identities" are formed as a result of the brainwashing we receive from childhood. They are part of the tactics the Establishment uses to keep us all divided from one another and fighting one another.

All religions promote discrimination and division, leading to hatred and even violence and murder. None of them have yet to produce a remedy to all the suffering, poverty, unhappiness and discrimination in the world. If any religion truly had the remedy to all the suffering on earth, there would no longer be any suffering. What have Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, atheism and the New Age done to end the suffering in the world?

Since December 2006, there have been many attempts to take down the Love For Life website. Any attempts have been thwarted by Love For Life supporters inundating the harm-doers with emails, etc, objecting to them taking down the website for a variety of reasons. The trouble makers usually back off when they realise that they can post all their views, arguments, beliefs, etc, in the Love For Life website without censorship or restriction imposed. They get to see that even the Queen, Pope, Prime Minister, President of America, etc, can post all their views without hindrance or sabotage and that we support freedom of speech/thought which means we support the right of all sides to express their views.

Of note, there is a vast amount of information posted in the Love For Life website which we do not agree with but we leave it all up because we refuse to be biased, opinionated or self-centered/self-serving. Of the many thousands of comments posted over the years we have only removed posts containing secret links to commercial advertisements, terrible foul language, threats of violence and death, etc, and attacks on other people's characters that avoid the subject/debate at hand. Besides links to advertisements, we have taken down less than six comments due to the above. We usually leave everything up, all warts and all, even those posts threatening to do terrible things to Fiona, our children, our dogs, our friends, family & supporters, etc.

The Love For Life website has information from all sides on many subjects, whether about Islam, Judaism, Christianity, Law, health, psychology, mind control, vaccination, aspartame, MSG, Chemtrails etc. There are over 11,000 articles, documentaries etc on the website and they are so diverse that we are sure that everyone would be able to find something they loved and something they hated, if they took the time to search. If we removed all the articles hated by everyone, there would probably be nothing left! We are not anti anyone but freedom of speech is freedom of speech and no one should condemn the work of another without taking the time to research the subject themselves. Yes, there are articles by those who have a less-than-rosy-viewpoint of Judaism, but there are also articles on the dark side of Tibetan Buddhism (and it is very dark) for those who are interested in the truth: Tibet - Buddhism - Dalai Lama: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6271 Should the authors of these articles be abused and imprisoned for daring to challenge the widely conceived reputation of Buddhism as being the religion of peace and love and that of the Dalai Lama as a saint, or should those interested be allowed to study the work and come to their own conclusions? The same applies to all the articles, documentaries, etc, about Christianity, Islam, Freemasonry, New World Order, etc.

The Love for Life website also shows how the Rule of Law, the Bar, the Government, the Monarchy, the system of commerce, the local, national and multi/trans-national private corporations, all the courses and careers on offer from our universities, all the educators, scientists, academics and experts, the aristocrats and the Establishment bloodlines have also done NOTHING to end the suffering in the world. The website maps the insanity of a world where there is no help for those in need, just as there was no help available for us when we were victims of terrible bank fraud: "NSW Supreme Court Case - Macquarie Bank/Perpetual Limited vs Fiona Cristian - Victims Of Bank Fraud Condoned By Judges" http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5 (orchestrated, condoned and protected by an international crime syndicate/terrorist organisation of judges, barristers, registrars, lawyers, politicians, banksters, big business representatives, media moguls and other lackeys who, all together, put up a wall of silence despite our trying many, many avenues. After the family home was stolen and business destroyed we were left close to poverty and destitution caring for 4 young daughters. Three years later not much has changed regardless of all our efforts. Where were all the followers of all the religions to help us? Or do we have to be members of those religions to receive help from others involved in them?

The New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies accused us of being anti - Jewish, see: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6616 and http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6665 because we had posted an excerpt from James von Brun's book: Kill the Best Gentiles: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6054 in which he blames Jews for the problems of the world. Obviously this is not our view because of what we have stated above. We do not hate anyone, whatever religion they follow. We are always open to talk to any religious leader or politician and meet with any judge, member of the Bar, experts, academics, educators etc to share the remedy we offer that heals all the divisions between MAN and MAN, and MAN and the EARTH.

Today, a representative of the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies is threatening to close the website down, because they have decided it is anti - Jewish and that we promote racism. What has the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies done to end the suffering in the world? Can they show that they are concerned with the suffering of ALL men, women and children AND ARE SEEN TO BE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT or are they only concerned with Jewish affairs? If so, they, along with all the other religions that only care for their own, are part of the problem, not part of the solution. The man who rang Arthur today was only concerned with Jewish affairs; he was not interested in our intentions or in anybody else, just as most Christians, Muslims, Sikhs, Catholics, etc, are only interested in their own. While we separate ourselves into groups, dividing ourselves from others with rules, regulations, rituals, procedures and conditions, we will never solve our problems.

No matter what we in the Western World Civilisation of Commerce have been promised by our politicians, religious leaders, scientists, educators, philosophers, etc, for the past two hundred years, all we have seen is ever-increasing destruction of men, women and children and the earth. None of the so-called experts and leaders we have been taught to rely on are coming up with a solution and none of them are taking full-responsibility for the fact that they can't handle the problem. All religious books talk about end times full of destruction and suffering but why do we have to follow this program when there is an alternative to hatred, mayhem and death? Why are our leaders following the program of destruction and death rather than exploring the alternatives? It seems that any mainstream politician, priest or academic are only interested in supporting the RULES OF THE DIVIDE, that maintain the haves and the have nots. For 200+ years, 99% of the world population have been so trained to pass on their responsibility for themselves, others and the earth, that the 1% of the population that make up the leaders of the rest of us are making all the decisions leading to the destruction of all of us and the earth. Let's not forget the education system that brainwashes the 99% of the population that we are free and have equal rights while, in fact, we are feathering the nests of those at the top.

At the root of all our problems is self-centredness, an unwillingness nurtured by the Establishment that keeps us concerned only with our own needs rather than the needs of others around us and the Earth. Instead of creating and releasing acts of love for those around us as gifts to benefit them and the earth, we take, take and take, until there is nothing left. The whole point of the Love for Life website is to show people the root of all our problems and to share the remedy. The extensive research library is there to attract browsers and to provide access to information not available through mainstream channels. If the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies can, after careful examination of our work, prove that anything we are saying is wrong, we will be happy to accept their proof. If they cannot, and they are still insistent on closing the website down, they will be showing themselves to be traitors to MAN because they are not interested in pursuing any avenue that can end the suffering in the world.

All religions, corporations and organisations that support and maintain the Western World Civilisation of Commerce are part of the problem because our civilisation is a world of haves and have nots, racism, violence, hatred, poverty, sickness, discrimination, abuse, starvation, homelessness, corruption, collusion, vindictiveness, social unrest, arrogance, ignorance, fear, war and chaos. While we support civilisation, we support death and destruction because ALL civilisations that have ever existed are apocalyptic by design.

If we truly want peace on earth and freedom for all, we have to let go of all that which keeps us divided, and come together as MAN, conscious living co-creators of creation. The Love For Life website offers a remedy to the problems we all face in the form of DO NO HARM COMMUNITIES: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3641 For more details see here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6511 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 - We also highly recommend that everyone read the brilliant Russian books called The Ringing Cedars: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1125 - The Love For Life Website Homepage also provides lots of inspiring remedy based information: http://loveforlife.com.au - If you want to be kept up to date with our work please register to the Love For Life Mailing List here: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/09/05/14/mailing-list. We usually send two postings per month. Presently (September 2011) there are over 7000 registrations reaching over 500,000 readers across Earth. The website now (September 2011) receives up to 12 million hits per month. Since December 2006, over 100 million people have visited the Love For Life website.

Conscious Love Always
Arthur and Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
17th June 2009

The Cristian Family November 2006

Clarification Regarding Our Intentions
Behind The Use Of Donations

The Love For Life website is offered for free without a fee and without any conditions attached. If people are inspired to donate money, then we accept their gift and have provided an avenue for them to support the work we do through Fiona's Paypal or ANZ bank account http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8515. There is no obligation whatsoever to donate and all are equally welcome to our work and to our "time", whether they donate or not. Over the last 9 years, all the Love For Life work has been put out for free and it has often been donations from supporters that have enabled us to renew the domain name, etc, to keep the website going. While some complain that we have an avenue for donations, others complained when we didn't! Either use it or don't - the choice is yours.

Since Love For Life started March 2005 and website December 2006, Arthur has worked 16 hours a day, 7 days a week unpaid for much of this period, putting together the website and sharing insights to wake people up to what has been done to them, whether through the 11,500+ individual articles, videos, podcasts, debates, discussions, pdf's, research documents, etc, found amongst the 8,500+ posts, as well as helping many, many men and women over the phone, and through email, website correspondence, Facebook and YouTube, and creating the Love For Life food forest vege garden and Love For Life music recording studio. This is our life is a gift commitment to serve MAN/Nature/Earth but we are still severely compromised by "The System" and still have to give to Caesar what is claimed to belong to Caesar, which is where the donations help us.

Fiona & Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
21st July 2014