Australia To Implement Mandatory Internet Censorship from Herald Sun Australia 29th October 2008

Australia To Implement Mandatory Internet Censorship - News.com.au 29th October 2008

Australia To Implement Mandatory Internet Censorship - Herald Sun 29th October 2008

[Blanket Ban On Internet In Australia For Dodgy Websites - Here is the excuse "The Establishment" will use to place censorship filters on websites like Love For Life.com that contain information they do not want the sheeple to awaken to. A fine example of the Hegelian Dialectic (problem-reaction-solution): create a problem such as rampant child porn sites on the net and then, when the sheeple react, offer the "solution", blanket censorship which, of course, can include anything to do with "terrorism", "anti-government" and "slander".

This is the usual "James Bond Syndrome" story: put out a few truths and slip in the lies (secrets) that you don't want picked up. In accepting the truths, the sheeple also swallow the lies (secrets) that do all the damage. (Refer "James Bond Syndrome" here: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5231)

Behind all this "The Establishment" and their big businesses (including all forms of federal-state-local government as they are all private corporations under the control of The Establishment") and their need to keep us all reliant on them so they can control us. Who Benefits? When it comes to matters of "The Establishment", anyone who is not a sheeple will know that whoever offers the solution is always the one who created the problem in the first instance.

Mind Control is what its all about.

Now that the Love For Life website is receiving 1.4 million strikes per month (heading rapidly towards 2,000,000), with over 7,700 pages being looked at and over 41,000 files opened daily, and is penetrating into the mainstream and the lives of the sheeple, we are posing a serious threat. We are a sincere freedom/truth/information website that is remedy oriented and we offer a fantastic remedy to the current chaos. Do you not think the powers that be would like to see restricted access to Love for Life?

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life.com.au - 31st October 2008 ]

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Australia To Implement Mandatory Internet Censorship
News.com.au
29th October 2008

AUSTRALIA will join China in implementing mandatory censoring of the internet under plans put forward by the Federal Government.

The revelations emerge as US tech giants Google, Microsoft and Yahoo, and a coalition of human rights and other groups unveiled a code of conduct aimed at safeguarding online freedom of speech and privacy.

The government has declared it will not let internet users opt out of the proposed national internet filter.

The plan was first created as a way to combat child pronography and adult content, but could be extended to include controversial websites on euthanasia or anorexia.

Communications minister Stephen Conroy revealed the mandatory censorship to the Senate estimates committee as the Global Network Initiative, bringing together leading companies, human rights organisations, academics and investors, committed the technology firms to "protect the freedom of expression and privacy rights of their users".

Mr Conroy said trials were yet to be carried out, but "we are talking about mandatory blocking, where possible, of illegal material."

The net nanny proposal was originally going to allow Australians who wanted uncensored access to the web the option of contacting their internet service provider to be excluded from the service.

Human Rights Watch has condemned internet censorship, and argued to the US Senate "there is a real danger of a Virtual Curtain dividing the internet, much as the Iron Curtain did during the Cold War, because some governments fear the potential of the internet, (and) want to control it"

Groups including the System Administrators Guild of Australia and Electronic Frontiers Australia have attacked the proposal, saying it would unfairly restrict Australians' access to the web, slow internet speeds and raise the price of internet access.

EFA board member Colin Jacobs said it would have little effect on illegal internet content, including child pornography, as it would not cover file-sharing networks.

"If the Government would actually come out and say we're only targeting child pornography it would be a different debate," he said.

The technology companies' move, which follows criticism that the companies were assisting censorship of the internet in nations such as China, requires them to narrowly interpret government requests for information or censorship and to fight to minimise cooperation.

The initiative provides a systematic approach to "work together in resisting efforts by governments that seek to enlist companies in acts of censorship and surveillance that violate international standards", the participants said.

In a statement, Yahoo co-founder and chief executive Jerry Yang welcomed the new code of conduct.

"These principles provide a valuable roadmap for companies like Yahoo operating in markets where freedom of expression and privacy are unfairly restricted," he said.

"Yahoo was founded on the belief that promoting access to information can enrich people's lives, and the principles we unveil today reflect our determination that our actions match our values around the world."

Yahoo was thrust into the forefront of the online rights issue after the Californian company helped Chinese police identify cyber dissidents whose supposed crime was expressing their views online.

China exercises strict control over the internet, blocking sites linked to Chinese dissidents, the outlawed Falun Gong spiritual movement, the Tibetan government-in-exile and those with information on the 1989 Tiananmen massacre.

A number of US companies, including Microsoft, Cisco, Google and Yahoo, have been hauled before the US Congress in recent years and accused of complicity in building the "Great Firewall of China".

The Australian Christian Lobby, however, has welcomed the proposals.

Managing director Jim Wallace said the measures were needed.

"The need to prevent access to illegal hard-core material and child pornography must be placed above the industry's desire for unfettered access," Mr Wallace said.

Link to this article: http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24568137-2862,00.html

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Australia To Implement Mandatory Internet Censorship
Article from: Herald Sun
October 29, 2008 12:00am

INTERNET censorship will be compulsory for all Australians, and controversial websites on euthanasia and anorexia may be banned.

The Federal Government will not let users opt out of the proposed national internet filter when it is introduced.

The Government's $44 million internet censorship plan would include two tiers -- mandatory filtering for all, and an optional level that will provide a "clean feed" censoring adult material, said Communications Minister Stephen Conroy.

Despite planning to hold trials before the end of the year, Senator Conroy said it was not known what content the mandatory filter would bar, but euthanasia and pro-anorexia sites may be on the chopping block.

"We are talking about mandatory blocking, where possible, of illegal material," he told a Senate estimates committee.

The net nanny proposal was originally going to allow Australians who wanted uncensored access to the web the option of contacting their internet service provider to be excluded from the service.

Groups including the System Administrators Guild of Australia and Electronic Frontiers Australia have attacked the proposal, saying it would unfairly restrict Australians' access to the web, slow internet speeds and raise the price of internet access.

EFA board member Colin Jacobs said it would have little effect on illegal internet content, including child pornography, as it would not cover file-sharing networks.

"If the Government would actually come out and say we're only targeting child pornography it would be a different debate," he said.

The Australian Christian Lobby yesterday welcomed the proposals.

Managing director Jim Wallace said the measures were needed.

"The need to prevent access to illegal hard-core material and child pornography must be placed above the industry's desire for unfettered access," Mr Wallace said.

Link to this article: http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24568137-2862,00.html

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COMMENTS

29th October 2008

G'day sheeples...,

This is the thin edge of the wedge...

Don't leave it to the squeaky hinges .... time to get active, tell these Gestapo merchants where to get off!!

Remember .. if you do nothing you will fully deserve the milking, shearing, shafting and slaughtering you'll surely receive!!

Regards
Col

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29th October 2008

Thanx Col.
The internet was mainly started to spread easy-access pornography and all other FILTH around the globe, so that is not what the JEW corksuckers want to censor! They want to censor any truth that people hold, and want to share with others of like mind! IT IS TOO LATE, THEY ARE SCRAMBLING TO COVER THEIR SATANIC PAEDOPHILE ARSES!!! Invest in HEMP rope b/c it will be valuable soon, to meet the demand for the mass hangings of these mfers..... coming soon!!! Nick.

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Don't let this happen to your country. Fight this with all of your might. They took away your guns and some said okay, and now they're going after your ability to communicate openly. Next is what you can say and after that who you can say it to. Don't let this happen to your country.

Posted by: Frank of USA 9:03am today
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Get stuffed Rudd - Australia is a free country I'm entitled to my freedom of speech where I see fit. Vote NO on idiotic leaders Censorship ploy! - DO WANT LIBERALS BACK!

Posted by: Tim of free country Australia? 8:57am today
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Wow there, I see you Ozzies have a government that mistakes Parliament House for Zhongnanhai and Canberra for Beijing. That's what happens when you don't insert into your constitution something like our "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." Think about it. Do you really want Oz to become a People's Republic of China?

Posted by: Rickie of New Jersey, USA 8:56am today
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Dear Australian Cousins, Word is spreading that your politicians and my politicians are attempting to censor us by "protecting" us. Ours might be next year with a newer "Fairness Doctrine". The funny part I find is that politicians are usually WAY behind the technology curve and plan to use it for control. The number of computer savvy people far outnumber any government constraints. These people will try to use censorship for our "safety". Find out who they are, cousins, and remember it during the next election. From the mouths and pens of people who said it better than me: The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen. ~Tommy Smothers Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so, too. ~Voltaire Freedom is not merely the opportunity to do as one pleases; neither is it merely the opportunity to choose between set alternatives. Freedom is, first of all, the chance to formulate the available choices, to argue over them -- and then, the opportunity to choose. ~C. Wright Mills

Posted by: Ken of Oregon, USA 8:45am today
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How long before the filter is extended to 'Enemies of the State'? I'm tempted to ask 'What the hell has happened to Australia?', but we may soon be heading down the same path.

Posted by: Ed of Pittsburgh USA 8:43am today
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Australians have only themselves to blame for this encroachment on their liberties. For years now you have consistently turned a blind eye to the government's ever increasing march against your rights. Only when things affect you directly do you complain, if not then its back to the BBQ. When they took away the rights of people on welfare and made them work on menial jobs to show how "tough" they were, you said "I'm not a dole bludger so I don't care". Now we have a skills shortage because back then they did not put into place a suitable skills training program to get these people When they lock people up in detention centres for 10 years you said "I'm not an illegal alien and they don't have the same human rights as me so I don't care" When they violate the rights of people who broke the law and paid their debt you said " So what I'm not a criminal I don't care" How long did you fools think they would go before they started interfering with your rights "Work Choices"? After all they restricted everyone else's. Nice job...now back to the BBQ

Posted by: A bit Confused of Sydney 8:42am today
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The people of the world need to unite in someway and overthrow these damm politicans who hold themselves up as kings and take back our countries. We've all done it before throughout the ages, maybe it's time we did it again.

Posted by: Kenn Brown of Tampa, FL 8:29am today
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It's not only Australia that is taking this path. If Obama becomes America's 44th president, you can bet that our freedoms, too, will disappear faster than a Foster's on a hot summer day. The shameful thing is that our people have been warned, just as yours have been, but we vote these liberals in anyway. I guess we both just live among idiots....

Posted by: Rodger of California, USA 8:19am today
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Just a thought..or two.. Why not make everyone go to Church, or Temple, or Mosque, etc.? Wouldn't that make us all better? Of course, we'd need a law for that too. And, it seems only fair, when you think of it to put TV cameras in every motel and hotel room; yes, even the toilet. And while we're at it, trying to institute Orwell's wonderland of 1984, let's put cameras in every room of every house in every country. Then, again, if the death penalty were not such a dark little tabbo, we could put everyone in prison to death (call it 'Social Abortion'). Hay! They do it to innocent pre-borns, why not to people who actually deserve a little time on the rack getting their heads crushed? That would make everyone perk up and behave a little better, wouldn't it?. Oh! And it would sure save tax money too. Then we could turn the prisons into churches, mosques, and temples. Wouldn't that be nice?

Posted by: Mike Murray of Southern Middle North America 8:15am today
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I am thinking that both the US and Australia will have to completely collapse in order for the people to regain control of our runaway governments. Voting is about as productive as wishing when both parties are identical faces of the same excesses and desire for power. We both have the best governments that corporations can buy....

Posted by: James Shamburger of Texas 8:14am today
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This makes no sense There are incredible desktop filters avail, like Net Nanny, that already do a great job of filtering and acting as parental controls on everything from illegal downloads to helping with Cyberbullying, time management, etc. Australians need to have the choice to have these filters and to use them as fits their families values. If I am an Aus citizen, I would be raising hell if I found my teenage daughter had anorexia, and I as a parent could not go online to get information on this disease What is next? Blocking Breast Cancer sites, cause they use the word breast? This blacklist supplied by ACMA to the ISPs is a very, very slippery slope of government control and censorship

Posted by: vj 8:13am today
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We shall determine what you see and hear not you. You are children needing constant guidance.

Posted by: William of Orange of Mind Filter 8:09am today
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Is this a joke? Australia joining China in censorhip? WTF?

Posted by: Lori of Canada 7:58am today
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The evils we experience flow from the excess of democracy.

Posted by: Practical Person 7:55am today
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I am sorry to hear of this happening in one of my favorite nations. Come next Tuesday, we may have electeda "nanny state" government, and have such things as internet censorship on the horizon.

Posted by: Bob T of Texas 7:52am today
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First they took your guns, now they're taking your Internet. You Aussies did it to yourselves.

Posted by: Zeb Arthur 7:47am today
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I understand that you don't want government intrusion. But for those Aussies that are against this, are you also against the draconian gun control laws in your country?

Posted by: Mike 7:32am today
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I would like to say that [===Censored===] and that this Governent is just [===censored===] What a bloody disgrace we are letting this happen.

Posted by: Buckets of Censored 7:08am today
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"The net nanny proposal was originally going to allow Australians who wanted uncensored access to the web the option of contacting their internet service provider to be excluded from the service." Leave in this provision and I will support it. Leave it out and I will fight it till death.

Posted by: Geoff Muspratt of Brisbane 7:05am today
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So will Anne Geddes be allowed through this morality filter? A slippery slope indeed, greased by liberal ideals and attitudes.

Posted by: MacRandall of USA 6:51am today
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I am a Christian, but I believe the Australian Christian Lobby is being terribly shortsighted here: Wait until the Gov't starts censoring the Bible and sermons. Censorship is wrong.

Posted by: man_in_tx of USA 6:44am today
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Why is it that Left Wing Governments are so into censorship?

Posted by: John Hooper of Spring Hill 6:42am today
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In other news, sales of shell accounts in the United States are expected to skyrocket... never thought I'd have to start tunnelling my SSH browsing through America.

Posted by: beedogs 6:39am today
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In America there is fear that if the Democrats win total control of the government that they will attempt to initiate the so-called "Fairness Doctrine". This states, simply put ,that all opinions that appear in the media must be balanced by an opinion from the other side. This has the effect of dampening conservative radio talk shows wich are very popular here and will certainly be a thorn in the side of a liberal Democrat gonernment. Why is it that so-called "liberals" are so afraid of unregulated acess to information and free speech.

Posted by: Ron Barrett of California 6:37am today
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This is insane. The real reason is not censorship of websites, but monitoring all email activity.

Posted by: Steve 6:36am today
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what does the government think its doing? this is incredible to me. i want these idiotic leaders to back the hell off my freedom of information. i never asked for this Mr Kevin Rudd. and who is this Jim Wallace sounds like a freedom supressing information censoring criminal. i do no want people like this speaking and choosing on my behalf. and this Australian Christian Lobby sounds like a controlling entity this ant the dark ages. where do these stupid ideas come from? its simple, people want freedom to choose and freedom to seek any information they wish to. we need to control our goverments before they control us. wake up guys come on start informing all your friends and families.

Posted by: david of nsw 7:46pm October 30, 2008
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Well what did you expect. Just like USA we have a two party system run by people who suck up to the shadow government. We had the liberals who based on a lie was happy to invade Iraq and even admitted it was for oil and then we have Rudd who is a close mate with the head puppet Bush Jr. At some point they will cross a line and I say this is it. The question is HOW DO WE FIGHT THIS. Do we have anyone entrepreneurial who can set up a protest website and co-ordinate grassroot action like emailing and phoning to politicians? They need to be reminded they are here to serve us, not the otherway around. ..Micki

Posted by: Micki of Sydney 5:29pm October 30, 2008
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Australia is joining China in its censorship efforts,there's something to be proud of ! Lets go to the beach and have a coldie....

Posted by: clinteas of Melbourne 12:18pm October 30, 2008
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Last century governments had to burn books to stop people from reading what they did not like. Now they just have to filter...

Posted by: Angus Crosby 11:57am October 30, 2008
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How many of you "erudite" Aussies have actually lived in the USA to actually have the right to criticize it the way you do? I am not a rah, rah rah, go USA, guns blazing American, but DO take issue with those of you that criticize something you know nothing about. I have traveled all over the world (including Australia), have lived in three other countries besides my own, and now live in yet another. My honest, somewhat educated opinion is that most Aussies are sheep. If your people are not responsible enough to regulate themselves (like us wild Americans), why do you think that a politician is more able to, or has the moral right to do so?

Posted by: Shane Backman of Slovenia 11:45am October 30, 2008
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This is a load of rubbish and anyone with an ounce of sense should fight against its implementation. Start writing letters to anyone and everyone involved in politics and send copies of this article just in case they are somehow unaware of the issue.

Posted by: Michael Blackman of Australia 10:08am October 30, 2008
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People's Republic of Australia 8:42am today We don't have the anarchy of your US origin, free guns , free porn ,free obesity, free to sue whatever, free interest loan., unregulated financial junk businesses , freedom for Ku Klux Klan, Freedom to satanic churches.We don't intend to sink to the depths and hole as what America is today. You leave every thing to the individual to self regulate, that is a fantasy! It has failed in America and we don't want to be America, so get use to it.

Posted by: FairGuy2 of Doncaster 10:02am October 30, 2008
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I knew just it was too good to be true, the Internet was the last bastion of free speech and now they're going to erode that too. I am so Angry I can not express it!!!!!!!! Please don't let this 'false flag' (Child porn) happen, the people who want to look at such things will always find a way.

Posted by: Brad Taylor of Melbourne 10:01am October 30, 2008
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In response to "People's Republic of Australia" I hate to say it but I agree with you. Aussies are used to being told what to do by the man .... its a remnant of our days as a jail where the convicts wouldnt dare stand up to the jailers ... it embarasses me to see how soft and complinat Aussies are when push comes to shove, and all the while they tell you they 'love a larrikin" when in real life larrikins (an old Irish word meaning "delinquent") are mercilessly flogged into submission by the authorities while the population stands by watching too scared to say anything. Australia voted for the ALP so they can be happy with the year 12 bureaocracy running the show at the moment ....Gotta say Id rather be here than in the USA where every unintelligent axe grinding scumbag has the "right" to ram their puerile opinions down your throat ... if thats' "freedom" you can keep it in America.

Posted by: The last real Aussie of everywhere 10:00am October 30, 2008
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Once again, thanks SO SO SO MUCH to all you labor voters. This makes me absolutley mental. I might move to korea so i have a bit more freedom.

Posted by: brett of melbourne 9:56am October 30, 2008
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This is downright disgusting. Who is anyone to decide what you are able to view! I guess this is simply another freedom the majority will be willing to give up in exchange for happy smiling faces of ignorance.

Posted by: Joshua Conti of Perth Australia 9:41am October 30, 2008
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I am an American married to an Aussie and I lived in Australia for over 3 years now. I cannot get over the Big Brother mentality of the people here. The government rules their lives, and fines the bejesus out of you for violating one of their draconian rules (You cannot ride a bicylce without a helmet and reflectors, for instance). The Aussie government completely banned guns in 1996, and now there is more gun violence per-capita than in America, and it grows each day. Australians, unlike Americans, DEMAND that government be big and nanny-like, and Aussies do not have a Bill of Rights. Let¿s hope these two things are what keeps America from becomming like Australia.

Posted by: People's Republic of Australia 8:42am October 30, 2008
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This will be extended to include political sites opposed to their own. On top of this i'll assume they can then shut down sites of their choosing due to the fact the wording will be so vague. The mass media ratings are way down, not only because people are far less interested now days but also alot of them just arn't reporting on the real issues(i'm sorry reporting on a football team going on their 50th drinking trip is not news). The real aims of this will be to shut down any political decent and "child pornography" is nothing but marketing tool, it sounds good to us the public.

Posted by: Kadin of Qld Australia 8:30am October 30, 2008
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we absolutely have to fight this. the legislation has nothing to do with protecting our children from internet pornography. think about it. its so simple and easy to install internet filtering software if you want it at your home, and you can customize to your own specifications. letting each individual decide exactly what they deem appropriate for themselves. everyones happy. if this was about protecting children from pornographic images do we really need government intervention? is this a sensible coarse of action? i think not. its not about pedophilia either. i remember a psychologist telling us on an episode of Insight that the evidence simply does not suggest that viewing underage pornographic material leads to the subject committing child abuse. when i think of the type of men who view such material i think of ugly old men who probably hate themselves. many i believe do not want to harm children in any way. and would not forgive themselves if they did. i pity them. i dont hate them. perhaps theyre like gay men and just born that way. i dont know. its not my place to judge these people. realize that viewing such material is a VICTIMLESS "crime". so why do we waste our resources attacking these individuals when the REAL criminals, the men and women who do rape and molest small children arent being targeted? cant you people see that by having these people post their material on the net theyre leaving themselves exposed? dont censor the internet. use it to track these criminals down. its not like pedophiles r going to stop molesting kids just cus they cant post their videos on the internet. please. the purpose of this legislation clearly isnt to protect citizens in any way. using kids as justification to censor the internet is just a smokescreen folks. wake up. so what is the government interested in? CENSORING AND CONTROLLING INFORMATION. what if i told you that all western mainstream media (in fact 96% world wide) was run by the same group of people? not only that, but hollywood 100%? what if i told you they owned the reserve bank of australia that prints and issues our currency, as well as government using their propoganda juggernaut, bribery, blackmail and government agents. ive outlined the current situation on my imvu webpage for anyone who cares to read it. i bring this up to illustrate how dire the situation really is. that aside. whether you agree with me on all these topics or not. the real issue here is freedom of speech. which is an issue we should all be able to come together and agree upon. im posting a few links that might be of interest to those of u who care about protecting our civil liberties. dont forget to sign this petition: http://petitions.takingitglobal.org/oznetcensorship http://nocleanfeed.com/ http://www.hinet.net.au/censor/ www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=7968823265 thanks for your support. please notify us of any political action being organized that we might participate in. peace PROTESTS! -Event for Melbourne protest on Nov 1 here: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=30642499217 -Info about nationwide protest at http://www.myspace.com/NOCLEANFEED

Posted by: Samson Estacado 6:12am October 30, 2008
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We allready got the "Family Filter" That should do it! And what will come next!? It´s a dangerous path! Nobody can control the outcome if Coorperations,Organisations, private compagnys, political groups etc. etc. will have demands, ideas, stories etc. to be restricted or censored!! Think about that for a while! :)

Posted by: Jan Steffensen of Denmark 5:44am October 30, 2008
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Welcome to the New World Order Australia. Once this national net filtering system is in place you won't even be able to read this article or any other that your Government deems forbidden.

Posted by: David of Oregon, USA 5:15am October 30, 2008
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Change the government, change the country............................

Posted by: Jane 3:01am October 30, 2008
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Ha, this story has hit the web sites all over the world.One is saying Aust will join China.... We all should be sooo pleased with this....Thanks Kevin07...hay Kevin did you use "You Tube" to con the new and young voters that we need a change ? A young face ?....new progressive Australia ?....lets see what the voters say to you, at the next election.

Posted by: Jerabek of Qld 2:39am October 30, 2008
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This is a blatant breach of our civil liberties and to all of our free speech. Any such implementation would be a disastrous turn for the worst for modern democracy. They seem to have formulated a plan which is quite simple that being picking an issue which all people see as totally unacceptable and using it as tool to commence censorship. This problem undoubtedly requires a solution although stomping on the rights on all citizens in its name is an utter disgrace. People shouldn't allow themselves to be taken for fools as everyone knows that once a precedent is set there will be no stopping the government from blocking any material they deem to be controversial in the future such as dissenting political discussion just as they are doing now in China. This first step is nothing but testing the water for a reaction of the people.

Posted by: Pete 2:27am October 30, 2008
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I am heartened by all the comments here, you are overwhelmingly against this piece of ill-conceived civil right infringement. That's the kind of Australians I know!! Independent, they decide for themselves. You're a unique, beloved Country -- don't let them do this to you. It happens in stages, chipping away at your freedoms, a bit at a time. I know, I live in America, and Bushco. and his religious-nut base has ruined this country beyond belief. We're pinning our hopes on Obama do un-do the damage to our civil rights. ( We'll see.) Meantime, best of luck to Australia in fighting this sort of insidious, dangerous govt. control.

Posted by: Bob Bergschneider of San Diego CA USA 2:22am October 30, 2008
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This is yet another NWO ruse to take more freedom away from people. Remember the only truly free press left is via the Intenet. No one wants child pornography or a lot of other objectionable stuff but those who do will access it despite this tactic. This is only about shutting down dissent a la Patriot Act. All of those websites that may disagree with govt policy or expose govt fraud and waste will find themselves offline all of a sudden. What is most scary is the lack of opposition outcry here. Where are the Greens and the Liberals when you really need them to fight for you!

Posted by: Richard Wilson of Sydney 2:05am October 30, 2008
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Next to be "filtered": Any opposition to the ALP All non union employers All newspapers Senator Conroy and his cohorts need to taker a long hard look at themselves. This is joke policy from an incompetent minister who should be sacked AND: It is simply not possible to do what these clowns are suggesting in any case. All that will happen is Australia's 3rd world internet access speeds will just be slower and slower

Posted by: Ron O 1:29am October 30, 2008
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How far will your government go before you rise up and smash the state? Have they already taken your guns?

Posted by: Lando Calrissian of Chicago 12:33am October 30, 2008
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Hey, Rudd, can we be China too? Come on! How about trying to crack down on the people who publish the material, rather than simply censoring it, hm? No, that's too far-fetched. "but could be extended to include controversial websites on euthanasia or anorexia." What is this, 1984?

Posted by: Lauren 9:18pm October 29, 2008
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Australia the lucky country - You've gotta be joking me ! DICTATORSHIP at it's best - Wait till you become a REPUBLIC - No Free Speech !

Posted by: Pete 8:28pm October 29, 2008
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"helped Chinese police identify cyber dissidents whose supposed crime was expressing their views online" how nice that they are no1w bringing the dictatorship home. banning of expression/sexuality/political dissent all under the disguise of protecting you and me and "the children". why not ban violent content first? is not murder worse than sex? --not by their logic-- of course to ban violent images would require banning all murder-mystery films including sherlock Holmes. Just as banning nakedness would include the Michelangelo's David. The real issue is they think Sex, the source of life itself, is inherently bad. It follows then that recreational or celebrational sex and educational sex as well as general nudity are all bad. And then ¿masturbation is bad¿ and suddenly here we are...back in The Dark Ages. Next comes the banning of political dissent and freedom of assembly and freedom of movement . and of course I would be imprisoned in China for saying all this. Guantanamo for everyone. Actually Life is a good thing, it is What We Are. And Sex, is the source of Life. And nakedness? Is not a flower naked?

Posted by: huckleberry 8:25pm October 29, 2008
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If if loose the battle for internet freedom we loose our freedom. Do not believe this excuse about child pornography. The truth is that they want to restrict truth movements and alternative media rising on the Internet. Great tyranny awaits us if we do not stand up.

Posted by: JD 7:43pm October 29, 2008
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Krudd, your Mandarin-speaking, communist masters, would be proud. Unbelieveable! And still at least another 2 years of this to go!

Posted by: LDR of Melb. 7:26pm October 29, 2008
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So don't sit around, do something about it. It's great that mainstream media is starting to take this up, but we need people to know what they are giving up if they let this go. Never mind that Conroy probably doesn't have senate numbers. Never mind the trial that will highlight this as useless/legless/pointless and expensive. Fight it as if it were just around the corner, because pretty soon it will be. Don't make allowances, free thinkers have done that too often in the past. No censorship. Not now, not ever. Leave illegality to the police (that's what they get paid for) and let the rest of us live free.

Posted by: Asmodai 7:00pm October 29, 2008
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Our Kevvie has obviously been yapping away in Mandarin to his commie mate then presents this as an original idea.

Posted by: John 6:56pm October 29, 2008
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Well done comrade. Very red of you.

Posted by: Anton of Dont care 6:25pm October 29, 2008
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'Rudd'y good job Labor. This supposed plan for the country will cause nothing but less money to implement elsewhere. A day after this supposed filter is published, a 13 year old somewhere will crack it and put it on the internet. Everyone will go and see, and the filter will be rendered useless. Where is this so called 'democracy' when we can't even access the internet? I don't need people telling me what to see on the internet, I don't want an internet a snail could outpace twice, and I don't want the government to have the power to block any website they choose. What's next? TV channels only being allowed to speak good of our kind and benevolent leader, The Mighty Big Brother? Silly idea, silly premise, silly government. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go to the Ministry of Truth.

Posted by: Daniel 6:24pm October 29, 2008
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We clearly have our own Manchurian Candidate

Posted by: Kent F of Melbourne 6:15pm October 29, 2008
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Is this an April Fool's Day prank on the wrong day? This ranks up there with guaranteeing ALL bank deposits as one the worst political knee jerks ever. Whatever happened to the separation of Chruch & State? No church has any right to lobby the government on any subject whatsoever. This country is going down the toilet at a great rate of knots and is not being helped by the supercilious twerp we elected for PM.

Posted by: Rhys of Melb 3:50pm October 29, 2008
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I think its about time (k)Rudd went back to China (and stay there this time)!

Posted by: Jack 3:41pm October 29, 2008
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"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - attributed to Voltaire. I don't want anyone deciding for me what I may and may not view. I set my own standards and switch off programs & close websites that I find disgusting. I certainly don't need the Australian Christian Lobby or Family First thinking for me. Long live Richard Dawkins.

Posted by: Michael of Melbourne 3:40pm October 29, 2008
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you've got to be kiddng. next we'll be having a government minder in our bedrooms.

Posted by: michael jones of delahey 3:37pm October 29, 2008
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Simon B, you are obviously a christian. I do not need Jim Wallace's "approval" to view stuff on the internet. Yes child porn is a horrible crime, but dont blame me for what a very very small minority of people do. Do you really think this will stop anything like that?? No. simple answer All it will do is allow twits like Jim Wallace (and governments) to dictate to law abiding citizens what they can view on the net It is my right as an Australian citizen NOT to be interfered with by the government, or to be persecuted or denied access to information and media (based on your ASSUMPTION that anyone that complains about this MUST be into child porn) because some freaks want to use it for illegal activities. Once again the judgmental side of the Christian right shows its head.. So religious leaders have been proven to abuse children, SO LETS BAN THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION, totally, all of it, because a few are abusers.. (SAME ETHOS BUDDY!) ya know what Simon, me and my partner ENJOY porn.. OMG sinners!!! we love to watch it, sex between two (or more) consensual adults.. OMG we are terrible people aren't we!! (It also has recently been proven by an Australian University that the main group of users of pornography are ACTUALLY CHRISTIANS!) I also totally object to the Christian lobbying of the government (on this and other issues). Keep your religious fairy tales and biased opinions OUT of the running of MY country. SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE is the basis of true democracy and freedom

Posted by: Matt R of Melbourne 3:30pm October 29, 2008
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I'm sick of the whole fear campaign and its for your own good after 8 years of John Howard, now we have this which WILL NOT stop the modern boogyman the pedophile. ACA and various other 2nd rate "News" media have a lot to answer for as do those who worry about what is heinous crime but not the everpresent danger its made out to be, I also blame the christian right and am not a fan of this being put into practice with Family First's willingness to use their power to get their views put forth on the way we should live our lives...the balance of power has a lot to answer for. Disillusioned and I really dont need you looking after me and my children Kev, go back to buying our votes with more largess just like johnny and stay out of our lives.

Posted by: Jamie of Melbourne 3:30pm October 29, 2008
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Welcome to KRUDD's brave new world.

Posted by: Mort Dexter of Melbourne 3:22pm October 29, 2008
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Simon B, no one has a problem with restricting websites that advocate child exploitation but if you think thats what this legislation is about your mistaken and you should do some more reading on the topic. It the biggest suppresion of civil liberties this country has ever undertaken...

Posted by: AB of Melbourne 3:18pm October 29, 2008
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a totalitarian government move which is completely untenable in a democracy. big brother running rampart and deciding what you can do or watch. and don't come up with it will allow "reasonable" access as nobody has ever yet defined what is reasonable. what is reasonable to one person is bad to another. the only place for this BAD IDEA is in the garbage bin.

Posted by: nruce westcott of darwin 2:53pm October 29, 2008
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The Australian xtain Lobby wants for Austrailia what is happening in the US, xtain promotion of ignorance as a source of future indoctrination. It will take years to rid ourselves of the xtain ignorance infection in this country. Austrailia, many in the US look to you as models of freedom and democracy; please work to prevent this ignorance in you country.

Posted by: jimbo 2:47pm October 29, 2008
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Jim Wallace states that the ACL agrees with the need to ban access to "illegal hardcore material" anc "child porn". Why does this so offend you people? Is it because you can't live without your illegal material and exploitation of children?

Posted by: Simon B of Melbourne 2:46pm October 29, 2008
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this is pitiful - I was thinking about having toast & jam in the morning - who in the government should I contact to get the ok -

Posted by: ad of brisb 2:35pm October 29, 2008
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political censorship will be next..... yayyyy go nazis, bring out the thought police and you will push voters into pulling their heads out of the sand.

Posted by: Udo of Melbourne 2:34pm October 29, 2008
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This censorship plan (we know its going to happne, right??) shall come back and bloweth up in ye face! Who gets to decide? What about debate on e.g. supplements, pro or anti-vaccination or even non-government friendly rallies and etc.. Debate allows a "balance" to extremes. Internet was once the domain of a few, then it became the ultimate platform of free thought worldwide. Are we regressing??? Censorship is not the answer. Even cigarettes are still being sold albeit with a warning label ! Sounds like even an open discussion towards a possible solution may not be even possible due to the censorship !!Australia is not China !

Posted by: Stzzzz of Melbourne 2:31pm October 29, 2008
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Look, look, look, if yers don't know how to set up a proxy server - or use a proxifying software program - yer obviously deserve to be subject to full-spectrum, intrusive state surveillance, OK? How else are King George and his band of corporate tyrannosauraus rexes goin to keep tabs - he WINKS - keep tabs on the dangerous and seditious activities of all yer treacherous little ppl? It's too late to change events, so yers will just have to live with the consequences of yer appalling online behaviours and pathetique political inclinations. Yers were given plenty o warning. Better luck in tha next life, OK?

Posted by: Ugly BWOOCE MBA is the big boss of The Fat Cat Conservation Society 2:30pm October 29, 2008
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Bravo. They should censor all porn, since its nothing more than videotaped prostitution. When will our society learn that watching others get paid to have sex on camera is disgusting. If you want to do it, pay for it and legalize prositution [sex without a camera]

Posted by: Raul the Puppett 2:28pm October 29, 2008
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What a joke. Why should the government restrict what people want to view, just because some parents can't control their kids' access to online material ? This country is going mad. If they are going to restrict what we can view online, then they might as well pay for our pretty poor internet service as it is. Filters my a$$.

Posted by: Jim G of Melbourne 2:24pm October 29, 2008
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But the internet is for porn! Where am i gonna get my hardcore porn from if they do this?!? Bah, it will never go ahead, they're just kicking up a stink and wasting money for the fun of it.

Posted by: Jebus of Brunswick 2:21pm October 29, 2008
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We live in a liberal democratic society with a constitution that has come around after thousands of years of struggle. All it will take is a populist government with a populist leader like Chairman Dudd and a few ignorant Australians to throw it all out the window. Do we want to end up like communist China? Cuba? Venezuela? Such countries where it's decided whether the time is right to purchase a computer. There is nothing better than self autonomy, liberty and choice; exercising an independant judgment as to what you will look at or not look at. We have that now, but it could soon be taken away slowly or completely eroded by the current set of proposals. Rudd must stop the communist dictatorship.

Posted by: RG of Melbourne 2:21pm October 29, 2008
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I didn't see this inthe pre-election offering. Might have changed the outcome if comrade Krudd had announced this versionof events.

Posted by: Ian of Mandurah 2:17pm October 29, 2008
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Who Said Gillard was not a pro Communism, and not supporter of the Russian Political system in the 80s? Dont complain if you voted for Rudd/Gillard, you were warned of the nanny politics that Labor Government introduce when they get into power. Internet is just the start.

Posted by: Troy of Melb 2:16pm October 29, 2008
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Um b3zz of Melbourne, your comments show your total lack of knowledge regarding content filtering. I am a programmer and I can tell you that it is very easy to circumvent ISP filtering. They cannot filter an encrypted secure tunnel to a server in the US for example, or anywhere for that matter that has true unrestricted access to the internet.

Posted by: lt 2:13pm October 29, 2008
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I understand there needs to be control of computers to prevent children accessing websites that are inappropriate, however, the censorship must be controlled by parents or guardians. The censorship of any media by government is abhorent, as we know from history, that an ignorant citizenry is subject to government abuse. What next? Will be have to indicate all our plans for our day to some gov run agency? No! say no to government dictatorship.

Posted by: Adrian Prophet 2:07pm October 29, 2008
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This Government MUST go! Any time a Government gets in and starts trying to restrict freedoms and basic rights, it's time to knock them on the head before too much damage is irreversibly done. Rudd has been a love-fingers from the moment he got in. Everything he touches... He loves the whole Chinese thing so much he wants us to BE Chinese. Warning to ANY Government - you mess with our freedom to use unrestricted internet and you've got a fight! Politicians are bloody idiots.

Posted by: Jeff Citizen of Melbourne 2:02pm October 29, 2008
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Good to see that the rabid anti-religious posters are once again blaming religion for everything. In case you didn't notice, this move to censor child porn on the internet is a government initiative, which merely has the backing (according to the article) of a single christian group. How this amounts to some sort of religious conspiracy I'll never know. Further, the issue isn't whether or not the ACL or the government want to censor everything that appears before your eyes (they don't) - the issue is the government merely wishes to crack down on morally reprehensible activities, such as child pornography, which the ACL supports. Can any of you honestly say that child pornography has a place in our society? This may not be the correct way of doing anything about child porn, but at least it's a start. I for one do not support censorship, but I especially do not support child porn - and I'm sure that's the case with the rest of you too.

Posted by: Simon B of Melbourne 2:02pm October 29, 2008
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Who decides what is to be censored and what is not? Not amused Kev.

Posted by: Paul Pearce 2:01pm October 29, 2008
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Good Good Double Plus Good. Big brother is not only watching now he is telling us what to think. Bring out the brown shirts and hoist the swastika. Democracy is dead

Posted by: John of braaaaytin 1:52pm October 29, 2008
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It's a technology solution that will be awarded to the lowest bidder...... I'm sure a 13 year old will work out a way around it.

Posted by: al 1:46pm October 29, 2008
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One by one liberties are being stripped away by our almost wall-to-wall state and federal social engineering, control-everything-you-do, ban-this, ban-that, (or make it mandatory) two-faced Labor governments. The only "worker" Labor ever cared about was the one brain-washed by Labor into naively believing Labor would look after them. These scary socialist, loony-leftist governments need to be booted out next time around -- it gets worse day by day. As for the imbecile who is PM, what a disgrace he has shown himself to be... and so dangerously incompetent!

Posted by: Dean Kennedy of Moonee Ponds 1:39pm October 29, 2008
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All those "free speech" lefties must be wondering exactly who they voter for now. I wonder if book burning is the next step.

Posted by: David 1:20pm October 29, 2008
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Hands up if you are sick and tired of these so called "do gooders"telling you what you can or can't watch,read,view,listen to etc etc.... Senator Conroy, you sir, are a dictator- people are not going to put up with you telling Australians what they can see on their computer screen and what they can't, same goes for steve fielding and his Famly First Party(as well as other christian based groups). I think Kevin Rudd has been spending a bit too much time in china, now he and chairman conroy are trying to turn us into another Communist State with this BS censorship.

Posted by: Matt of elsternwick 1:18pm October 29, 2008
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Whichever political party vows to never implement this ridiculous censorship will win the next election. Nobody with a sound mind could possibly think this garbage is a good thing.

Posted by: Brad of Melton 1:16pm October 29, 2008
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Hint: VPN. Fail = Conroy

Posted by: Barrington Womble Esq of Lovetown 1:14pm October 29, 2008
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It is time we all stood up screamed ENOUGH! Mr. Rudd, sort this out and get out of my living room or the masses will end up in yours. I think it's time for a good old fashioned revolution. Stop this and stop it now dear polititians or the people will...

Posted by: Garth Williams of Melbourne 1:13pm October 29, 2008
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Jim Wallace = Nutbag. Back to the days of book burning.

Posted by: Stoat666 of Richmond 1:12pm October 29, 2008
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IN 1948 the United Nations General Assembly adopted the universal declaration of human rights ( UDHR ) Article 19 affirms the right to free speech .Article 19 , everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression , this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek , receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers " . Rudd you are not listening to the people of Australia and the United Nations .Does this make you and your Government Communists/ dictators ? In my opinion yes.You will lose the next election and these internet censorship laws will go with you .

Posted by: Michael of WA of Perth 1:09pm October 29, 2008
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Should a person be persecuted or prosecuted because they choose to read about Euthanasia or any other subject matter that fails the fraudulent standard of religions? The denial of the right to information, show the plans for our govt to suppress the truth of many matters, in a manner that can only be described as unethical and dishonest, using a dishonest ethos as its base argument for why this is necessary. Our forefathers fought against such tyranny, yet here have govt yet again introducing such tyranny upon its citizens. Our govt should stop pandering to lunatic religions and represent our society as a whole. the fact that lobby groups influence elections and then collect pay offs such as these show just how corrupted our system has become. A "free" Australia is what we claim to be , yet Australia is hardly free. Australians are happy to be dictated to, by the comparative religious nutcases they so openly ridicule?

Posted by: Wake up Australia of Melbourne 1:09pm October 29, 2008
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Thats a shame. I moved to this country from a more developed one because I felt that basic human rights were upheld more justly here. I feel like this is slowly changing with all the new laws the Federal Gov has been implementing over the years.

Posted by: Param of Melbourne 1:08pm October 29, 2008
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No politician has the right to interfere with the internet...it is out of their jurisdiction...and from the group involved who are supposedly telling us what we can view, its a grab bag of loony leftists, who are by default totalitarian by nature and do not believe in individual freedom.

Posted by: Gavin of South Yarra 1:03pm October 29, 2008
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only way this will get thrown out is the next poll showing a 10% drop in voter satisfaction of the rudd gov

Posted by: rob c of melb 1:02pm October 29, 2008
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Church leaders the world over have been molesting our children for years in the name of christianity. The church has no place whatsoever in shaping societies values, they forfeited that right years ago by their repulsive actions. It is also the church and missionaries that are responsible for the unfortunate plight of aboriginal societes the world over, including australia. The fact that the moronic Conroy jumps on this as good policy is an even bigger joke. For gods sake we have a new GG, let her get on and follow John Kerrs lead so we can get rid of this rabid dog of a government.

Posted by: Trev C of Melbourne 1:02pm October 29, 2008
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Here's a bad idea that's just gotten worse. Why are we so quick to emulate China's censorship?

Posted by: Tommy Hammond of Melbourne 1:00pm October 29, 2008
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This is an absolute joke. It will be expensive, unworkable and subject to the whims of any power-seeking authority. Steve Fielding has already put in his request - no doubt the government will be taking a serious look at buying his vote...

Posted by: John 12:58pm October 29, 2008
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This is rediculous. If I had an inkling that this sort of law would be propsed in parliment at the last election there is not way I would have voted for Rudd. Why block anything when its only the small number of people that access illicit material such as child porn. Heres an idea, spend the money on catching these people instead of stuffing up the internet speeds for the whole country.

Posted by: John of Gordon 12:57pm October 29, 2008
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Blocking access to "unacceptable" sites doesn't make the problem go away, it simply sweeps it further under the carpet. Surely the authorities should be tracking the source of these sites and targeting those responsible for posting the illegal content in the first place. The problem with censorship has always been that it becomes a propaganda tool that those in charge use to control the thought processes of the masses. You only have to think back to the false information spread during the various World Wars, and the restrictions imposed on free speech in China to see that. Target the criminals by all means, but don't impinge on the rights of the masses.

Posted by: David of Melbourne 12:56pm October 29, 2008
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Enjoy writing your posts and comments while you can, people. This government might just as easily decide that blogging and voicing contrary opinions on the internet constitute activities which must be censored. All "for our own good," of course. This is scary, and goes way beyond socialism to outright totalitarianism and tyranny. I seem to remember a guy named Hayek writing about this over 60 years ago. Will history end up comparing 21st century Australia to Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union in the 20th century? Think about that possibility long and hard before you vote on the next election day...

Posted by: Original Mike of Melbourne 12:55pm October 29, 2008
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The problem with this type of censorship is the resentment it causes. I am totally against it and will like everyone else work to find a way around it AND of course wait anxiously for the day we can vote out the cretins who sit in Canberra dreaming up ways to restrict our freedom. Go to hell Rudd and take you socialism/totalitarianism with you.

Posted by: John Saxon of Melbourne 12:52pm October 29, 2008
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No friggin way. This cannot EVER be allowed. The Internet is our last opportunity to speak freely without censorship. Sign the petition Chris Weir talked about. Time to get off our bums and get serious about our basic rights!

Posted by: Steve of Melbourne 12:52pm October 29, 2008
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This is so wrong, it beggars belief

Posted by: Jon M of Kew 12:48pm October 29, 2008
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Oh, so now Australia is a communist nation too...god help us all. I thought the U.S. was bad.

Posted by: heather Fields 12:44pm October 29, 2008
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Once again the right wing Christian lobby groups decide how the rest (majority) of Australia should hear, read, and view Do not impose your pathetic, biased, ill informed, Christian agenda on me I am NOT Christian, i do NOT have children, I do NOT download kiddie porn, and do not believe that I should have my access to the net (and therefore my civil rights and freedoms) interfered with by the Government, or because BAD parents cant keep their kids off the net (SIMPLE, TURN IT OFF OR SUPERVISE THEM YOU FOOLS!). I am a Labor voter, but THIS IS A DEAL BREAKER FOR ME!! KEEP YOUR BIASED, ILL INFORMED CHRISTIAN RELIGIOUS VALUES and AGENDA (based on a fairy tale that is no more real that Father Christmas) OUT OF MY HOUSE, OUT OF MY INTERNET and OUT OF MY GOVERNMENT!!

Posted by: Matt R of Melbourne 12:42pm October 29, 2008
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The bible itself in Corinthians Book 1 6:12 (and 10:23-24): ``Everything is permitted to me, but not everything is beneficial. Everything is permitted to me, but nothing shall enslave me. Everything is permitted to me, but not everything is constructive.'' It is up to the individual to decide what is beneficial for them and what isn't.

Posted by: lachness 12:40pm October 29, 2008
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This attempt to censor the single greatest communication tool developed by mankind needs to be halted. The 'free' internet has resulted in the global exchange of news, ideas and philosophies that is now tearing apart the old-school elitist neo-conservative 'machine' that has enslaved us all for the past 100 years. Fight the good fight for freedom of information; past, present, and future - without censorship. Let history reflect truth regardless of savagery or pain, and let our children and their children be unafraid to contemplate ideas and philosophies of all ideologoies. LET THERE BE FREEDOM OF THOUGHT AND FREEDOM OF EXCHANGE ! FIGHT THIS ATROCITY ! FIGHT "THOUGHT CRIME" ! AUSSIE, AUSSIE, AUSSIE AUSSIE !

Posted by: Richard Bee of expatriate 12:40pm October 29, 2008
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a sad state of affairs , its farcical to call ourselves a democracy , we can shake hands with the US , ouir once great country is slowly going down the proverbial toilet , oh will this comment be allowed to post !

Posted by: Vince 12:38pm October 29, 2008
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How am I gonna download porn now!!!!!

Posted by: Whacko JAcko of Collingwood 12:36pm October 29, 2008
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And that my friends is the end of freedom in Australia. The country is now no better than communist China. How pathetic. I thought this country was better than that.

Posted by: Clint 12:32pm October 29, 2008
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A Totalitarian State at work now no longer even pretending to be a democracy..

Posted by: Heil Rudd of Melbourne 12:25pm October 29, 2008
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I'm very much against this - It's one thing to have an opt in system that filters out 'undesirable' content if you choose, but to restrict access based on what the Government (or anyone else) says we should see is wrong. Using God / Jesus is a crock. God gave us free will and wants us to choose a relationship with him. He doesn't stop us doing otherwise, even sinning. We're supposed to live in a free democratic country, not communist china. Dont forget too how much slower and more expensive the internet will be if this is successful! While I understand the motive, the result is censorship = BAD IDEA.

Posted by: Im a Christian of Caroline Springs 12:07pm October 29, 2008
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Good if i'm going to have restrictions on my internet services i want the government to pay for my service,i'm sick and tierd of being told what i can watch,see listern to or do, fed up with it.

Posted by: one eyed maggie of Melb........ 12:03pm October 29, 2008
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Ahh Bob the Lamington, or should that be Fruit Cake... Your narrative about filtering demonstrates your total lack of knowledge in the areas of networking, IP traffic, traffic shaping, and PC security in General.. If the Government is to implement this totalitarian solution, there would be little you could do, because it will not be implemented at the end user level on your PC, it would be done similar to the way China do it, by shaping traffic at the international links or at the ISP.. Your kids can circumvent your meagre PC nanny software because they are better with PC's than you will ever be.. My kids cannot access what I don't want them to, because I have learned how to manage their access properly.. You should stop depending on/hiding behind the Government to replace your responsibility as a parent and start acting like a responsible parent and manage your kids internet access appropriately.. Censorship does not work, history has proved that to use..

Posted by: b3zz of Melbourne 12:02pm October 29, 2008
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Chairman Rudd doesn't need tanks to squash oppression in this country, The Unknown Rebel of Tiananmen Square 9:21am today,Comment 18 of 27, he has the self righteousness of a fraud called religion to prove his righteousness to the world, and any opposition is stifled by abuse. Australia is not a democratic country in case you didn't know so do not expect democratic rights.

Posted by: Cynic of Melbourne 11:57am October 29, 2008
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The current proposal is unworkable on many fronts. The first is even by the Government's own admission these dynamic filters will slow down internet speeds on average by 30%, sometime even more. The reliability of the filters is also very poor, again by the Government's testing the most accurate software, and the slowest would incorrectly block 10,000 sites in every million! What happens to the small business owner who's site gets incorrectly blacklisted? Add to this that only illegal material on web sites can be targeted, missing completely technologies where most illegal content exists such as BitTorrent. Even if the content is on a web site the filter could be bypassed using several existing technologies. Finally such a filter would given parents a misplaced feeling that their children are now safe on the internet.

Posted by: Michael Specht of Melbourne 11:48am October 29, 2008
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This is a horrible idea, which totally removes any right for an individual to decide for themselves what information they choose to access on the internet. This level of censorship is offensive. What exactly is it about Australians that strikes fear into the heart of our government? We have become the nation of 'No' while still thinking we enjoy freedom. This is just another step in gaining more control, as if we are not on a short enough leash already. This kind of oppression kills my love for my nation, its not the Australia I grew up in; and emigration looks more and more attractive with each attempt of the government to 'parent' our country and our peolpe. What an embarrassment.

Posted by: Felix White of Melbourne 11:00am October 29, 2008
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The only way such "filtering" could work is if the "fllter" was installed on the user's computer. Even trying to filter from the server would not work as all you need to do is find a portal or zine that is ok then use the hyperlinks to navigate anywhere you want to go. I already have a filter on my computer, the kids turn it off when i'm not around. However there is now one reason I hope they go ahead with it - so that b3zz @ 14 will stand by his word to leave our shores forever.

Posted by: Bob the lamington 10:08am October 29, 2008
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Ok I absolutely HAVE to give my opinion about this. now im a 16 year old male i got to school i surf the net i do all the stuff teenagers do and i like many other mates of mine think this filter is a waste of time AND money. the filter is designed to block adult content and euthanasia right?? well i have one word. FAIL!! at my school the network admin does the EXACT same they use filters they get the ISP to block websites for them no matter what they do we run rings around them wether it be by going to the IP address' or using a proxy and a few other methods (which ill keep to myself) this filter will be blocking nothing at all. it is the parents role to monitor what their child looks at and when the other free optional filter came out no one really wanted it (ive also tested this filter, man, i could get everything i wanted including hardcore porn) this is censorship and the government just wants to control EVERYTHING SIGN THE PETITION!! http://petitions.takingitglobal.org/oznetcensorship sincerely ME!!!

Posted by: Chris Weir of Melbourne 10:07am October 29, 2008
Comment 26 of 148
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Every time they close the door they take away freedom == AND YOU WILL NEVER GET IT BACK ==This reminds me of a film called == TRX-1138

Posted by: martin of bayside 9:55am October 29, 2008
Comment 25 of 148
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This is insane. They cannot just restrict access to the internet as gthey see fit. Censorship is killing free speach, with the power to restrict what ever they deem inapropriate that will make us just as bad as China's Great Firewall. How long till they block sites critical of the current government. If they put this inplace I will leave Australia indefinatly

Posted by: Joshua of Frankston 9:52am October 29, 2008
Comment 24 of 148
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"The need to prevent access to illegal hard-core material and child pornography must be placed above the industry's desire for unfettered access," Mr Wallace said. This really goes to show that Mr Wallace has no idea on what this all about.

Posted by: Freedom Firs 9:41am October 29, 2008
Comment 23 of 148
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Obviously this is a civil rights matter that our draconian govt plan to impose on a once free society. Rather than punish illegal actions it is easier to make all of society conform to their narrow beliefs. The first site on the ban list should be the fraudulent site listed above, run by the Christian lobby. Never before have so few impacted so many as the collusion between religious buffoons and our corrupt govt.

Posted by: Cynic of Melbourne 9:40am October 29, 2008
Comment 22 of 148
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This sounds like a left wing and ring wing extreme in one. Extreme Socialism has taken away peoples freedom in some countries while extreme Capitalism has just ruined the whole world economy. I would support an opt-in internet filter because that would still allow us freedom of choice while allowing the government the freedom to be babysitter (no nanny here) to those who chose. This would be a democratic policy for a democratic country.

Posted by: Daniel Crljen of Fuselage Party 9:34am October 29, 2008
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Well if this gets up, then I'm leaving Australia forever, censorship is the greatest threat to our freedom and Australian way of life.. I'm an atheist, as is my right in this free country, I have as much proof of the non existence of God as these religious nutbags have of the existence of God, what about my rights to access the internet how I see fit and not how others want to dictate to me.. Conroy you are an idiot...

Posted by: b3zz of Melbourne 9:22am October 29, 2008
Comment 20 of 148
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How long before Chairman Rudd starts using Tanks to crush protesters?

Posted by: The Unknown Rebel of Tiananmen Square 9:21am October 29, 2008
Comment 19 of 148
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Yeah that's a great plan, block sites about Anorexia so that sufferers and their loved ones can't access more information in private, thus hampering recovery. How stupid can you be? Sites of a controversial nature such as anorexia or abortion are very important websites and like it or not, people need to be able to access this information from the privacy of their home computer.

Posted by: Candice of Hawthorn 8:57am October 29, 2008
Comment 18 of 148
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Bring on the next election. This Dudd will find himself in the gutter. I should be able to look and search what i want as long as it is not criminal.

Posted by: Rod of Melbourne 8:46am October 29, 2008
Comment 17 of 148
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they can put the price as high as they like because if i cant look up sites i want to as an adult living in what was suppose to be a free country then i will get rid of it.Rudd if you want to be a dictator go run for government in China

Posted by: graham white of communist Australia 8:39am October 29, 2008
Comment 16 of 148
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Welcome to the new Australia

Posted by: Bob of Melbourne 8:30am October 29, 2008
Comment 15 of 148
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So a consenting adult such as myself cant lookup normal adult pornographic material because some religious nuts dont want me to?

Posted by: hellaeon of Melbourne 8:17am October 29, 2008
Comment 14 of 148
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Its ironic that Krudd is so enamored with the chinese. Since this is the same sort of thing the Chinese government would do.

Posted by: James 8:01am October 29, 2008
Comment 13 of 148
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Apparently Krudd not only speaks and looks Chinese, he's now behaving like a censorious communist dictator.. The next step will be 're-education camps'! The "Australian Christian Lobby" has ALWAYS opposed access to free thought and speech, since restraint of uncensored communication aids in the spreading of religious superstitions and ignorance...and provides its obscenely massive income. If the Australian public puts up with this bullshyte I'm leaving for somewhere more sane and sensible and free.....Zimbabwe or North Korea, perhaps!

Posted by: Dave Collins 7:42am October 29, 2008
Comment 12 of 148
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What a surprise! Labor governments are so against letting people take responsibility for their own actions that they come up with this nonense. Guess what Senator Conroy we don't all need nannying!! This is an attack on freedom and is not so distant from the banning of sites prevalent in China. Allow mature adults the option not to have this unnecessary filtering and get your noses out of my computer!!

Posted by: Patrick Kelly of Camberwell VIC 7:37am October 29, 2008
Comment 11 of 148
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This is wholesale censorship. We are the next China where we are only allow to see what the government deems correct.Religion and the NWO will try and control the people through ignorance and the lack of knowledge.

Posted by: Gerty of Shepparton 7:18am October 29, 2008
Comment 10 of 148
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WHAT!!?? Now Big brother is telling us what we can view on our internet? Child porn I agree with but as it states in the article it doesnt include shareware. Are we to become a communist country now?

Posted by: Rebecca 7:16am October 29, 2008
Comment 9 of 148
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Another broken Labor promise forcing complusory internet censorship and a crippling of internet speeds. Why should I pay for a ADSL2 connection if the nanny blocker halves my connection speed?

Posted by: graeme of of Melbourne 6:46am October 29, 2008
Comment 8 of 148
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How can this obscene proposal even be brought before government. We pay these politicians ridiculous amounts of money to use their time wisely - NOT TRY AND INFRINGE UPON OUR BASIC RIGHTS. PM RUDD will soon be seeking advice from his Chinese friends on how to control our access to information. This is money better spent on enforcing laws and educating people in relation to illegal activities.

Posted by: Adam of Melbourne 5:24am October 29, 2008
Comment 7 of 148
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As long as the government keeps its grubby paws off my porn sites, they can go nuts.

Posted by: JM 3:16am October 29, 2008
Comment 6 of 148
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Thanks Hitler. Oh sorry, I meant the Australian Christian Lobby.

Posted by: Rob C 2:09am October 29, 2008
Comment 5 of 148
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And we dare call the Chinese Communist Governments control over their citizens use of the internet censorship? Australia has more rules and regulations than any country I have ever visited; are Australians in general so stupid that they feel they need such legislation? By saying yes, you are acknowleding the fact that the vast majority of the population cannot be trusted to act responsibly. Geez, talk about the dumbing down of an entire country! Australia the "lucky" or "clever" country.....more like the they'd be lucky to be clever country!

Posted by: Anti-censorship of Melbourne 1:56am October 29, 2008
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here is a good place to start http://www.acl.org.au/

Posted by: relious nutcases of Melbourne 1:49am October 29, 2008
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what we need is no religious involvement in govt after religion is nothing more than afraud upon society.

Posted by: Cynic of Melbourne 1:48am October 29, 2008
Comment 2 of 148
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Australia a free country, i think not

Posted by: Cynic of Melbourne 1:45am October 29, 2008
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The Cristian Family November 2006

We Stand For NO SYSTEM

Kindom (Do No Harm Communities) is the dream for freedom, but it is the dream for the freedom of those around us who also live the dream of freedom, because it is in living for the freedom of others that we get our freedom. When we live for the dreams of Kindom of those around us, we live life as a gift because we live for (dedicate our lives to) their dream of freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, etc, just as they live for our Kindom dreams too. This is true co-creation (cooperation) with no attack on the uniqueness of each of us. When we live this way, we have no need for any man-made system - everything/everyone has already been taken care of by our love for life.

Just as we do not have to jump 10 feet across the room to grab our next breath, neither do we have to worry about food, water and shelter because it has all been taken care of as we each co-create Kindoms/Kin-Domains for everyone. Now everybody and everything of the dream of life that is Kindom/Paradise is free (has been set free once again). The issue is greed and selfishness, power and control trips, arrogance, ignorance, being fed many many lies and being traumatised. The issue is not overpopulation - there is more than enough land available for every family to have a hectare (2.5 acres Kin-Domain) to care for. The land of Australia can provide a Kin-Domain for every family across Earth, each with a food forest, clean fresh drinking water and plenty of space for building natural do no harm habitats and with plenty of land left over.

Everyone must have the freedom to take full-responsibility for their lives, for the water they drink, the food they eat and for their shelter. Currently, "The System" forces everyone to give up taking full-responsibility so that we become grown up children accustomed to sucking on the nipples of "The System" corporations for everything, having to use money to get by and to follow the rules of money because we are not co-creating freedom, peace, truth, joy and abundance for each other. Money only leads to haves and have nots and all the abuse, manipulation and distractions that we are subjected to as slaves to money.

When we give up living for other's Kindom dreams, we start creating hell ("The System") all around us because we become self-centred - now it's all about "my freedom","my money", "my land", "my belief", "my saviour", "mine", "mine","mine", "i","i", "i", "own", "own", "own", etc. To protect what we claim we own requires a man-made system with FORCE to protect those self-centred claims. This is ALL trauma based and all story-telling (brainwashing/braindirtying).

NO SYSTEM = KINDOM/DO NO HARM COMMUNITIES
NO SYSTEM = KINDOM/DO NO HARM COMMUNITIES photo Kindom_zpsa6d24e8a.jpg

Our true freedom comes when we set our thoughts of freedom into motion so that we live freedom rather than just talking and thinking about it while we still slave for "The System". Kindom will not happen while we meditate for hours in the bush or do yoga retreats or wait for Jesus or follow the processes of the OPPT (One People's Public Trust now called One People). This is not freedom because we are not living freedom because we are living the story-telling of Jesus or Zeitgeist or The Secret or Thrive or One Earth/Consciousness/People.

Living Kindom is very, very hard work as we set about repairing the damage to MAN/Earth/Nature that we are ALL responsible for but the burden becomes lighter the more of us put our life-energy into the dream of returning Earth to Paradise. Day-after-day, we all have to work our arses off until Kindom is all around us (MAN) once again. This is the price we pay to set each other free on a piece of land (Kin-Domain), so that no one is under the image-power (education/brainwashing/story-telling) of another MAN anymore and so that everyone can have their space of love to create and live their unique, do no harm dreams. This only happens once we have the Kindoms set up so that everyone is provided for.

Once we re-create the food forests, whether on land or in the suburbs, we can re-claim our freedom, breaking the strangle-hold of "The System" because we are no longer reliant on its services and benefits and no longer turning each other into slaves of "The System", cogs in the wheels of "The System" machine. If we don't put the effort in to set everyone and everything free all around us then we still live in HELL ("The System"). The key is to live for everyone else's freedom so that we can have it too.

From Bare Dirt To Abundance
A Year In The Life Of The
Love For Life Food Forest

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
8th February 2013
51 Minutes 46 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A

From Bare Dirt To Abundance Part Two A
5th November 2014
http://youtu.be/TPTPn8tgcPI
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8545

From Bare Dirt To Abundance Part Two B
Coming Shortly

We live for NO SYSTEM. We do not lose anything by not having a man-made system and, in fact, we gain. We gain our freedom and we gain abundance. Let go of the fear.

The Cristian Family November 2006

A Collection Of Various Love For Life Posts
Providing The Big Picture We See

Sequential Order

We ask you to NOT believe anything we say/share and instead use scrutiny like an intense blow torch and go where the logic of truth/sense takes you. This is very, very important. Put everything you believe up to the test of scrutiny to see how it stacks up. If you are true to your heart/senses and go where the logic of truth/sense takes you will find that NO belief, etc, will stand up to the test of scrutiny. They just do not stack up because they are lies/fraud.

After you have watched and read all the material and any questions are left unanswered, send us your landline number and we will use the internet phone as a free unlimited call. We are on Sydney NSW Australia time. Best times for us to chat are between 11.00am and 6.00pm.

It is critical that you fully comprehend Image Power, "Spelling", Trauma, Reaction To Trauma, Curses, Processing Curses, Full-Responsibility/Liability, Limited Liability/Responsibility (passing-the-back), Slavery, Senses/Sense vs Non-Sense/Senses, Re-Presenting Intellectual Property such as but not limited to "Name", Storytelling/Storytellers, Duality, Black-Magic, Belief, Lies, "i", All Seeing "i" (eye), etc..... These themes and others are covered over and over and over again.

If you do not comprehend these insights and are unable to use your senses to sense your way through all the non-sense/non-sensory-images that enslave MAN under their image power (darkness = "The System" = Hell), men and women will remain deeply trapped under a terrible state of trauma. Our intention is to inspire you to remedy by showing you how to move away from reacting to trauma in all its nefarious and devious forms.

IMAGE POWER
Superb Diamond Range Interviewing
Arthur & Fiona Cristian 4th February 2014
http://youtu.be/qFnuuw3kLog
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8501

His-Story/Her-Story (History)
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
2005-2007 - Re-posted July 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8529

The Dream Of Life Part 6
Under The Spell Of Intellectual Property

Arthur Cristian - 51 Minutes 52 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMK7CkU1ih8

Trauma Induced Fantasy
July 2013 Interview With
Jeanice Barcelo And Arthur & Fiona Cristian
http://youtu.be/CZVj-ddUoZw
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8500

The Dark Side Of The Moon
The Background To "The System"

Arthur & Fiona Cristian Interviewed By
Jahnick Leaunier, The Tru-Mon Show
24th August 2016
Love For Life - 142 Minutes
https://youtu.be/C5TViw1NLr4

Eric Dubay's Flat Earth Is A Cult
The Background To The System Part Two

Arthur & Fiona Cristian Chatting With
Jahnick Leaunier On The Tru-Mon Show
Love For Life - 31st August 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8585
154 Minutes
https://youtu.be/rCPWgEQg-2M

Eclipse Of The Sun - Video (Arthur swears in this video)
The Background To The System Part Three
Arthur & Fiona Cristian Chatting With
Jahnick Leaunier On The Tru-Mon Show
Love For Life - 25th October 2016
https://youtu.be/FMOsOi1kNRc

The "Name" Is The Mark Of The Beast
The Strawman Identifying
Your Slave Status In "The System"

By Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
5th February 2012 - 56 Minutes 25 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdOag66v7uo

The Satanic Craft Of Inculcation In Practice
Fiona's ACT Supreme Court Affidavit Explaining Inculcation & Illumination
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
4th March 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8578

The Spinning Top
Full Bloom Inculcation

Arthur And Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
Facebook Discussions Between The
8th December 2016
And
26th January 2017
Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/16/03/04/satanic-craft-inculcation-pra...

The Shit Of Death
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
28th January 2017
Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/16/03/04/satanic-craft-inculcation-pra...

The Selfie Of Freakenstein
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
17th March 2017
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8588

Three Sets Of Fiona Cristian Documents Filed With ACAT
Merged Into One Document For Downloading
https://www.scribd.com/document/327370355/Fiona-Cristian-Affidavit-ACT-S...

Fiona Cristian Affidavit
ACT Supreme Court / Court Of Appeal

https://www.scribd.com/doc/316218306/Three-Sets-of-Fiona-Cristian-Docume...

Dancing With Magic (Lies)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Videos, Articles, Comments
And Pending E-Book
Love Fort Life
September 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8575

Dancing With Magic Part One
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
5th September 2015
https://youtu.be/hx7qJ7r2OS4

Dancing With Magic Part Two
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
12th September 2015
https://youtu.be/b_KuEFdKmnA

Dancing With Magic Part Three
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
13th September 2015
https://youtu.be/9pJc1NfnAcI

Dancing With Magic (Lies) Part Four:
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
16th September 2015
https://youtu.be/kSVURGwm1Go

Introduction To Kindom Video
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
6th March 2015
https://youtu.be/7SspPm9wRgo

To Be Educated Is To Have No Soul
The System Is Soul Destroying

Frederick Malouf & Michael Tellinger's
Contrived Gifting
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
1st September 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8586

Illumination IS Definition
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
26th to 29th January 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8577

IMAGE POWER
The Nefarious Tactics Used
To Disguise Truth And Distract Us
From Remedy

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
24th January 2014
This post contains many recent Facebook comments
and email replies which collectively provides a big picture
into exposing the deception behind IMAGE POWER.
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8496

The Pull Of E-Motion
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
8th February 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8499

Processing Curses
A Lie Is A Curse
Liars Process Curses

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
26th February 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8503

How The System Is Really Constructed
Bouncing Back Curses Upon Curse Makers
To Stop Harm Forevermore

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
27th February 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8504

Slave To A Name
Parts One, Two, Three, Four,
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd to 6th March 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8505

Educated Slaves
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
20th March 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8506

The Only Path To Freedom
Beware The False Steps

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 2nd April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8508

Free-Dumb For All
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 5th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8510

Revoking The Ego
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 8th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8511

How MAN Commits Spiritual Suicide
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life - 3rd April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8509

How To Detect Intel Operatives Working
For The New World Order Agenda
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 10th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8512

How The Psyop Program & Intel Networks
Are Messing With Your Head +
His-Story/Her-Story

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8513

Godzilla Through The Looking Glass
Destroyed By Name"

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 20th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514

What It's Going To Take
To Co-Create Freedom Forevermore

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 22nd April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514

Falling For Fairy Stories
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 24th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514

A Disassociation From The Work
Of Kate of Gaia

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 17th May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8517

Separating The Wheat From The Chaff
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 22nd May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8516

Revolution Or Revolution
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 25th May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8520

Routing Out Psyop Programs
Routs Out Intel Operatives
Exposing Max Igan's Psyop Program

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 31st May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8524

The Psyop Program Scam
Behind Religion Belief Faith
& Associated Opinion

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
11th June 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8525

Another Delusion
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
11th June 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8526

A World Of Words Is A World Of Lies
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
13th June 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8527

E-MAN
The Name Of The Beast Is MAN

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 9th May 2014
Includes Mountain MAN Arrested
Facebook Discussion About "Name"
Uploaded 25th June 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8528

E-Motion
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 13th August 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8537

Discussion With Brother Gregory
Clearly Demonstrating Christianity
Is Part Of The Problem
And Not The Solution

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
Between the 12th May 2014 and 30th August 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8542

The Psyop Program Behind Free Food
And Permaculture

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
29th October 2014
Facebook Discussion With Unconditional Love Moon
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8544

Head So Strong
Music and Vocals Arthur Cristian
Backing Vocals and Vocal Effects Arthur Cristian & Hannah Wood
Lyrics Fiona and Arthur Cristian
Written during our spare time between Aug & Oct 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG4UQCTsqwU

The Time Of Trauma That Destroys Us
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
9th November 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8547

The Most Powerful Video On Spirituality
And Happiness FOR SLAVES
Or
How To Accept Slavery And Be Happy About It

Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
6th August 2014
Facebook Discussion About The Work Of Eckhart Tolle
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8548

What Can We Do What Can We See
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
A series of Arthur Cristian Facebook
posts and discussions
between 17th and 21st November 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8552

The Misuse Of Love By Intel Networks
To Create Doubt And Uncertainty
With The Intention To Destroy Love
And Therefore Destroy MAN
(True Freedom, Peace, Joy, Abundance And Truth
For Everyone)

By Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
26th November 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8554

The Void Of E-GO That Is Spiritual Suicide
The Justification Of Laziness
That Perpetuates System Creature Comforts
Ensuring Our Fall

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
13th December 2014
Massive Update Occurred 14th Dec 2014 3.10pm Sydney Aust time
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8556

Darkness Visible Part One A, B, C, D
The Freemasonic World In Plain Sight
Decoding George Washington Lithographs

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
14th December 2014
Part One A http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8557
Part One B http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8567
Part One C http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8568
Part One D http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8569

Darkness Visible Part Two
Yin And Yang, Duality, Spiritual Suicide
And Frank O'Collins UCADIA / One Heaven

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
14th December 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8558

Darkness Visible Part Three
How The Word Sausage
Re-Presents The New World Order
Boiling Point & Out To Get Us

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
27th December 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8560

Darkness Visible Part Four
Aleister Crowley - Thelema - OTO
And The Black Magic Psychedelia Of The Intellect

Facebook Discussion
4th to 10th January 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8561

Darkness Visible Part Five
Living MAN Fiona Cristian's Standing
+ Decoding Judeo/Judaism

Fiona Cristian & Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
24th January 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8562

Darkness Visible Part Six
The Many Fingers Of The Hidden Hand Appearing
YouTube Community Flagged A Video
Posted To The ArthurLoveForLife YouTube Channel
As Being "Hate Speech"

Fiona Cristian & Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
4th February 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8563

Darkness Visible Part Seven
The Full Responsibility For Setting
True Freedom For All Into Motion
In Present-Sense Forevermore

Fiona Cristian & Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
10th February 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8564

Who We Really Are Does Not End
At The Surface Of Our Skin

Arthur Cristian & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 22nd February 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8565

Introduction To Kindom Video
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
6th March 2015
https://youtu.be/7SspPm9wRgo

The Rot Parts One, Two, Three
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
5th June 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8571

"The Good Guys" And The "Bad Guys"
Working Together To Bring In
The New World Order

Arthur Cristian - 18th July 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8572

Can You Spot The Ego?
Where's Wally? Part One

Compilation of Facebook & Youtube
Insight Posts During Aug/Sept 2015
By Arthur Cristian
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8573

Can You Spot The Ego?
Where's Wally? Part Two

Compilation of Facebook & Youtube
Insight Posts During Aug/Sept 2015
By Arthur Cristian
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8576

Dancing With Magic (Lies)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Videos, Articles, Comments
And Pending E-Book
Love Fort Life
September 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8575

Dancing With Magic Part One
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
5th September 2015
https://youtu.be/hx7qJ7r2OS4

Dancing With Magic Part Two
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
12th September 2015
https://youtu.be/b_KuEFdKmnA

Dancing With Magic Part Three
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
13th September 2015
https://youtu.be/9pJc1NfnAcI

Dancing With Magic (Lies) Part Four:
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
16th September 2015
https://youtu.be/kSVURGwm1Go

Illumination IS Definition
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
26th to 29th January 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8577

The Satanic Craft Of Inculcation In Practice
Fiona's ACT Supreme Court Affidavit Explaining Inculcation & Illumination
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
4th March 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8578

The Dark Side Of The Moon
The Background To "The System" Part One

Arthur & Fiona Cristian Chatting With
Jahnick Leaunier On The Tru-Mon Show
Love For Life - 24th August 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8583

Eric Dubay's Flat Earth Is A Cult
The Background To The System Part Two

Arthur & Fiona Cristian Chatting With
Jahnick Leaunier On The Tru-Mon Show
Love For Life - 31st August 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8585

To Be Educated Is To Have No Soul
The System Is Soul Destroying
Frederick Malouf & Michael Tellinger's
Contrived Gifting

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
1st September 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8586

New Love For Life Kindom Facebook Group
Started March 2015
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1434747556816918
Includes 63 Minute
Introduction To Kindom Video
https://youtu.be/7SspPm9wRgo
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
and
Facebook Kindom Group Guidelines
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8566
The Love For Life website home-page provides
the bigger-picture background to the themes
touched on in this video: http://loveforlife.com.au

Crop Circles Are A Massive Hoax
Facebook Discussion On Simon Kawai's Wall
Involving Arthur & Fiona Cristian
31st August 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8470

OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
27th February 2013 onwards...
Part One: http://youtu.be/Qjp_9nlrBao
Part Two: http://youtu.be/tbybeOWZ-Bc
Part Three: http://youtu.be/yOWoxH-HbVw

Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 8th February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8350
Part One: http://youtu.be/4ze66_33wxM - 70 Minutes 5 Seconds
Part Two: http://youtu.be/43gIi-sjxJc - 81 Minutes 13 Seconds
Part Three: http://youtu.be/oooY6W63K-M - 70 Minutes 18 Seconds

What Do You Believe On Origins?
Who Said There Was A Beginning?
Who's Truth Do You Accept?
Belief Is A Strange Idea.

Discussion Lyndell, Scott and Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Between March and April 2013
Posted 29th October 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8487

So You Want The Good Bits Of "The System"
But Not The Bad Bits?

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 12th August 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8468

Turning Away From The Reflection
Of MANS Looking Glass

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
30th April 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8404

REMEDY

From Bare Dirt To Abundance
A Year In The Life Of The
Love For Life Food Forest

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
8th February 2013
51 Minutes 46 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A

From Bare Dirt To Abundance Part Two
5th November 2014
http://youtu.be/TPTPn8tgcPI
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8545

From Bare Dirt To Abundance Part Three
7th March 2016
60 Minutes
https://youtu.be/SH9i8ZStzWI

Love For Life Food Forest & Native Garden March 2016
Extension Of The Love For Life Food Forest And Establishment
Of A New Native Garden At The Front Of The Rental Property
In East Bowral - 24th October 2015 to Mid February 2016.
15 Minutes
https://youtu.be/y-Uz8HmnSIM

Control The Land
And You Control MAN On The Land
Displace MAN From Land
And You Turn MAN Into Slaves

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
April 2011 (Updated 14th September 2011)
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8237

The Divine Spark
Facebook Discussion With Raymond Karczewski
Arthur & Fiona Cristian & Others
2nd October 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8483

Capturing Another MANS Uniqueness
A Facebook Debate With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
And Raymond Karczewski
Starting 13th May 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8414

The Spell Is Broken
Taking The Land To Create Kindom

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8365

The Steps Of Kindom
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life 2006/2007
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

To explore these themes in greater detail go here where you can find links to all our Love For Life comments, articles, debates, discussions, videos, podcasts, etc: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385

All the best
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

Website: http://loveforlife.com.au
Email : action@loveforlife.com.au
Mobile : 0011 61 418 203204 - (0418 203204)
Snail Mail: PO Box 1320 Bowral 2576 NSW Australia
Facebook Arthur Cristian : http://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian
YouTube Arthur Cristian : http://www.youtube.com/ArthurLoveForLife

Register To The Love For Life Mailing List: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/09/05/14/mailing-list

Facebook Group Why Aren't We Free Discussion : http://www.facebook.com/164918753537287
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Links below will kick in when the professionally recorded Love For Life music is released.

SoundCloud : http://soundcloud.com/loveforlife
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Peaceful Transition Through Sacrifice And Service

We feel there is an essential peaceful do no harm transition required to get all of MAN back to standing on MANS feet without reliance upon another MAN for water, food, shelter. As it stands everyone in "The System" are highly dependent and reliant on the "group mind-set" that forms "The System" of slaves providing services and benefits for the emotionally addicted slaves to "The System" (and you can put us in the same basket too). The transition is to get MAN back to relying ONLY on nature without 3rd party interlopers, intermeddlers, interceders getting in the way. The transition is a team effort with the foresight for setting all of MAN free down-the-line so that MAN is no longer dependent on slaves and masters providing services, benefits, privileges and exclusivity while being bound to contracts, rituals, procedures, conditions, rules & regulations which compromises MAN severely.

This transition is all about shifting from limited liability/responsibility to full liability/responsibility. This full responsibility is all about caring for our health, nature all around us, clean uncorrupted (pure) water and food, partner/co-creator, children, shelter, animal-friends in partnership, etc. In "The System", we are already together destroying each other - we have to come together to create peace together so that we can all have peace. We cannot live peacefully when we are islands, not taking full responsibility for the lives of those around us until EVERYONE can take full responsibility for their life, which means that EVERYONE is healed of system trauma. In "The System", we all come together to make slaves of each other - now is the moment to come together to set each other free, to live for each other's freedom, peace, joy and abundance. Once we have set each other free, we are free.

Control The Land
And You Control MAN On The Land
Displace MAN From Land
And You Turn MAN Into Slaves

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
April 2011 (Updated 14th September 2011)
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8237

The Spell Is Broken
Taking The Land To Create Kindom

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8365

"The Steps Of Kindom"
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

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Once we fix these issues, we or our children or our descendants to come, can start focusing on the even bigger picture of getting back to where our ancestors were, as breatharyan's, before they fell into non-sense images to be enslaved by them.

All the best to you and your family
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

The Cristian Family November 2006

The Cristian Family Declaration

The Cristian family and The Love for Life Campaign are apolitical, non-religious, non-violent, anti weapons, anti drugs (both pharmaceutical and recreational) and anti any ideology that denies the existence of Do No Harm Communities (Kindoms) and suppresses the uniqueness and freedom of all men, women and children.

The Cristian family and our Love For Life work is unaligned to any big business corporation, intelligence agency, government body, "system" law, "system" think tanks, "system" green or environmental movements, religion, cult, sect, society (fraternity, brotherhood, sisterhood, order, club, etc,) secret or not, hidden agenda, law or sovereignty group, occult, esoteric, New Age or Old Age.

The Cristian family supports and promotes the remedy that brings an everlasting peace, freedom, truth, joy, abundance and do no harm for all of life without causing loss of uniqueness or the need for having slaves and rulers. We are not into following the one in front or being shepherds for sheeple. Most importantly, we take full-responsibility for everything we think, feel and do.

The Cristian family are not Christians.

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

December 2006

The Cristian Family November 2006

THE CRISTIAN FAMILY PLEDGE

Being of clear brain, heart and intention, we each declare the following to be true:

• We have no intention of ending our own lives.

• We will not tolerate suppression of truth, ideas, freedom, or our work. We stand for freedom of speech.

• We stand together to support others in the expression of truths and freedom to speak out no matter how radical those ideas may seem.

• Standing for freedom takes courage; together we shall be strong in the face of all odds.

• If it is ever claimed that we have committed suicide, encountered an unfortunate accident, died of sickness/disease, disappeared, been institutionalized, or sold out financially or in any other way to self-interested factions, we declare those claims false and fabricated.

• We testify, assert and affirm without reservation, on behalf of all those who have dedicated their lives to the ending of secrecy and the promotion of freedom of thought, ideas and expression that we shall prevail.

• We Do Not Have Multiple Personality Disorders

Arthur Cristian
Fiona Cristian
Jasmin Lily Cristian
Emma Rose Cristian
Frances Hannah Cristian
Xanthe Jane Cristian

15th December 2006 (Edited/Updated 18th September 2011)

The Cristian Family November 2006

Update Regarding The Love For Life
Home Page And Quick User Guide

We are turning the Love for Life Quick User Guide http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608 into a blog of all the main insights of our work since March 2005, whether through articles, videos, podcasts or discussions/debates.

As we do not have the time to compile everything we have written into a book, as many have suggested we do, compiling all our most important work into one area of the website is a way of providing easy access to this work so those interested are able to fully comprehend the big picture.

Instead of having to find our different articles, videos, etc, in various parts of the website, it will all be accessible here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385.

Love For Life Videos

As amateurs and posted in the Quick User Guide below the Facebook links, we're currently creating and posting a series of videos called "The Dream Of Life" which covers the ground of all the Love For Life insights. We plan to have the videos completed by December 31st 2012. Once this is behind us, our intention is to create a 2 hour or so video covering the body of this work. All videos are embedded in the quick user guide http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608 and uploaded in Arthur's YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/ArthurLoveForLife.

Love For Life Music

We have started recording songs, with others, that express the themes of Love For Life. They are now being posted on Arthur's YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/ArthurLoveForLife and are embedded in the quick user guide http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608. We have over 100 songs to record. A few rough demos have already been used as the soundtrack on the first "Dream of Life" video.

About Us - Love For Life & The Cristian Family

Also, everything we, the Cristian family, have gone through, from bank fraud and the theft of the family home to death threats and attempts on Arthur's life, is documented in the Quick User Guide too. If you, the reader, are prepared to put the effort in, you will comprehend the extent to which we have all been tricked into becoming slaves, giving up our uniqueness and our full-responsibility for life and destroying everything of life to the point where life is in danger of dying out completely. You will also comprehend the remedy to all this chaos; a remedy that requires only love for life and the determination to do what needs to be done. Though our focus is very strongly on the remedy that creates a world of freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance and Do No Harm for all of life without loss of uniqueness or the need for slaves and rulers, we realise that it is vital to comprehend how to get there and what stops us from getting there. This is why there is so much information on the hows and whys of everything going wrong in the world today. We are not into peddling conspiracy theories, we are into routing out all forms of organised crime.

Saturday 26th November 2011

Arthur and Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

Website: http://loveforlife.com.au
Email: action@loveforlife.com.au
Mobile: 0011 61 418 203204 - (0418 203204)
Facebook Arthur Cristian: http://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian
YouTube Arthur Cristian: http://www.youtube.com/ArthurLoveForLife
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Nimbit Music: http://www.nimbitmusic.com/loveforlife
Twitter: https://twitter.com/loveforlifemusi
Facebook Music: http://www.facebook.com/loveforlifemusic
Facebook Why Aren't We Free Discussion: http://www.facebook.com/164918753537287
Facebook Do No Harm Community: http://www.facebook.com/151811728195925
YouTube Love For Life Music: http://www.myspace.com/loveforlifemusic
MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/loveforlifemusic
Google + Fiona Cristian: https://plus.google.com/100490175160871610090
Register To The Love For Life Mailing List: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/09/05/14/mailing-list

1. For The Body Of The Love For Life Work by Arthur and Fiona Cristian

Which Unravels The Reasons For The Chaos, Mayhem and Confusion Being Experienced In The World Today, Explains The Need For "Community Immunity" and Responsibility, and Focuses On The Creation Of Kindoms - Do No Harm, Life-Sustainable Communities (As The Remedy That Heals All Mans Woes) - And How We Can Co-Create Them. For Comments, Articles And Discussions, Go Here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 - Also Go Here To See Podcasts And Videos Posted by Arthur & Fiona Cristian: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7309 - The Information Shared Comes From Inspiration, Intuition, Heartfelt-Logic And Information Gathered From Nature And Many Amazing Men And Women Along The Way. It Is Not Found In Any Books Or Channellings, Or Talked About By "Experts". Go Here To Read A Brief Synopsis Of Why We Started Love For Life: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8182

2. For Information About The Ringing Cedars of Russia Series

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1125 and for more on Eco Homes, Villages, Organic and Permaculture Gardening and Life-Sustainability, etc, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3641 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1985 and Mikhail Petrovich Shchetinin - Kin's School - Lycee School at Tekos: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5173

3. For How To Eat A Raw, Living Food Diet,

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5068 - LIFE is information. When we distort LIFE and then eat, drink, absorb, think, feel, hear, see, touch, taste, smell and perform these distortions, the information of LIFE, your LIFE, our LIFE, our children's lives, everyone's LIFE, is distorted.

4. To Find A Menu For The Extensive Research Library (over 8,000 items posted embodying over 11,000 documents, pdf's, videos, podcasts, etc)

Which Covers Topics From Health to Chemtrails/Haarp to Brain Control to Archaeology to Astronomy Geocentricity Heliocentricity to Pandemics Bird Flu Swine Flu to Fluoride to Cancer to Free Energy to Global Warming, 9/11, Bali Bombings, Aspartame, MSG, Vaccinations, Aids/HIV, Mercury, New World Order, Satanism, Religions, Cults, Sects, Symbolism, etc, etc, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/82

5. If You Would Like To Read About The Cristian Family NSW Supreme Court Case

(Macquarie Bank/Perpetual Limited Bank Fraud Condoned By Judges, Registrars, Barristers, Lawyers, Politicians, Public Servants, Bureaucrats, Big Business and Media Representatives - A Crime Syndicate/Terrorist Organisation) Which Prompted The Creation Of This Love For Life Website December 2006, And The Shooting And Torture Of Supporters Who Assisted Us In Reclaiming The Family Home, Joe Bryant And His Wife, Both In Their Late 70's, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5 And Read Some Of Our Email Correspondence With Lawyer Paul Kean - Macedone Christie Willis Solari Partners - Miranda Sydney May 17th-June 27th 2006: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7300

6. For The Stories Of Other Victims Of The System,

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/australian_stories (If you have a story you would like us to put up, we would love to here from you:
action @ loveforlife.com.au)

7. For Documentation Of Harm Done By The Powers-That-Be And Their Representatives,

Evidence Revealing How Victims Did Not Break The Peace, Caused No Crime or Harm, There Were No Injured Parties. Documenting Incontrovertible Evidence Demonstrating How The Powers That Be (PTB) And Their Lackeys Will Break All The Laws They Are Supposed To Uphold. They Will Kidnap, Intimidate, Terrorise, Rape, Pillage, Plunder And Lie And Take Responsibility For None Of It. All Part Of Their Tactics Of Using Fear And Trauma To Keep Us In Our Place. Relatives Of Those Under Their Radar Are Also Not Safe From Attack And Intimidation. All Starting From A $25 Fine For Not Voting And A $65 Fine For Not Changing A Dog Registration. We Do Not Have Freedom And Can Only Appear To Have Freedom If We Comply. Regardless How Small The Matter The PTB Throw Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars Away To Enforce Their Will.... Go Here:
Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office - Part One to Part Ten - From 17th October 2008 And Still Continuing:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6319 or
Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office
Part One: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5742 - From 17th October 2008
Part Two: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6135 - From 18th December 2008
Part Three: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6295 - From 9th January 2009
Part Four: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6296 - From 14th January 2009
Part Five: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6375 - The Sick Puppy - From 20th February 2009
Part Six: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6390 - Police Officers, Sheriff’s Officers, Tow Truck Driver and State Debt Recovery Office Blatantly Ignore the Law To Rape, Pillage and Plunder The Private Property Of Fiona Cristian - From 11th March 2009
Part Seven: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6445 - Affidavit Of Truth - Letter To The Queen + Australia: Fascism is Corporatism - From 30th March 2009
Part Eight: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6652 - The Pirates Auction And The Ghost Of VSL386 - From 4th April 2009
Part Nine: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7073 - Arthur Cristian's Letter To Pru Goward MP - From 15th December 2009
Part Ten: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7500 - Should We Be In Fear Of Those Who Claim To Protect Us? "Roman Cult" Canon Law - Ecclesiastical Deed Poll - The Work Of Frank O'Collins - From 13th October 2010

8. If You Are Interested In Information On Freedom From Statutes, Rule-Of-Law, Free Man/Free Woman, Strawman, "Person" and Admiralty Law (The Law Of Commerce),

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/895 - For Common Law, Democracy, Constitution, Trial By Jury, Fee Simple, etc, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/category/main/law-articles-documents

9. If You Are Interested In Banking and Money Created (Fiat/Credit/Debt/Mortgage/Loan/Overdraft etc) Out-Of-Thin-Air, How Banks Counterfeit Money,

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/banks

10. For A List Of All The Latest Posts In The Love For Life Website,

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/tracker

11. For Links To Many Hundreds Of Videos, DVDs And Podcasts

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/video_dvd

12. To See The Cristian Family Pledge, Legal and other Disclaimers

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/06/12/05/love-life-legal-disclaimer

13. To Read About How A Representative Of The NSW Jewish Board Of Deputies Had Threatened To Shut Down The Love For Life Website

go here: Part One: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6616 Part Two: THE STEVE JOHNSON REPORT AND VIDEO: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6665 and Part Three: Latest Update On James Von Brunn: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6673

Conscious Love Always
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
action @ loveforlife.com.au
www.loveforlife.com.au
0418 203204 (int: 0011 61 418 203204)
PO Box 1320 Bowral 2576 NSW Australia

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THE CRISTIAN FAMILY SUPPORTS
FREEDOM OF SPEECH - FREEDOM OF THOUGHT

The Cristian Family November 2006

Posted Wednesday 17th June 2009
Updated September 2011

NSW Jewish Board Of Deputies
Has Threatened To Shut Down
The Love For Life Website

No Freedom Of Speech - No Freedom Of Thought

Love For Life does not support harm doing in any shape or form. However, we are supporters of free speech and post articles, documentaries, etc, that represent a wide cross section of ideas. See the Love For Life extensive research library where over 6000 documents, articles and videos are posted: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/82. We clearly see the evidence of the destruction to MAN and the earth that has been caused by ALL religions over the centuries and are therefore not supporters of religions, cults, sects or any group that demands conformity of thought, speech or action, or has rules, regulations or rituals that must be followed. Religions, nationalities and cultural "identities" are formed as a result of the brainwashing we receive from childhood. They are part of the tactics the Establishment uses to keep us all divided from one another and fighting one another.

All religions promote discrimination and division, leading to hatred and even violence and murder. None of them have yet to produce a remedy to all the suffering, poverty, unhappiness and discrimination in the world. If any religion truly had the remedy to all the suffering on earth, there would no longer be any suffering. What have Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, atheism and the New Age done to end the suffering in the world?

Since December 2006, there have been many attempts to take down the Love For Life website. Any attempts have been thwarted by Love For Life supporters inundating the harm-doers with emails, etc, objecting to them taking down the website for a variety of reasons. The trouble makers usually back off when they realise that they can post all their views, arguments, beliefs, etc, in the Love For Life website without censorship or restriction imposed. They get to see that even the Queen, Pope, Prime Minister, President of America, etc, can post all their views without hindrance or sabotage and that we support freedom of speech/thought which means we support the right of all sides to express their views.

Of note, there is a vast amount of information posted in the Love For Life website which we do not agree with but we leave it all up because we refuse to be biased, opinionated or self-centered/self-serving. Of the many thousands of comments posted over the years we have only removed posts containing secret links to commercial advertisements, terrible foul language, threats of violence and death, etc, and attacks on other people's characters that avoid the subject/debate at hand. Besides links to advertisements, we have taken down less than six comments due to the above. We usually leave everything up, all warts and all, even those posts threatening to do terrible things to Fiona, our children, our dogs, our friends, family & supporters, etc.

The Love For Life website has information from all sides on many subjects, whether about Islam, Judaism, Christianity, Law, health, psychology, mind control, vaccination, aspartame, MSG, Chemtrails etc. There are over 11,000 articles, documentaries etc on the website and they are so diverse that we are sure that everyone would be able to find something they loved and something they hated, if they took the time to search. If we removed all the articles hated by everyone, there would probably be nothing left! We are not anti anyone but freedom of speech is freedom of speech and no one should condemn the work of another without taking the time to research the subject themselves. Yes, there are articles by those who have a less-than-rosy-viewpoint of Judaism, but there are also articles on the dark side of Tibetan Buddhism (and it is very dark) for those who are interested in the truth: Tibet - Buddhism - Dalai Lama: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6271 Should the authors of these articles be abused and imprisoned for daring to challenge the widely conceived reputation of Buddhism as being the religion of peace and love and that of the Dalai Lama as a saint, or should those interested be allowed to study the work and come to their own conclusions? The same applies to all the articles, documentaries, etc, about Christianity, Islam, Freemasonry, New World Order, etc.

The Love for Life website also shows how the Rule of Law, the Bar, the Government, the Monarchy, the system of commerce, the local, national and multi/trans-national private corporations, all the courses and careers on offer from our universities, all the educators, scientists, academics and experts, the aristocrats and the Establishment bloodlines have also done NOTHING to end the suffering in the world. The website maps the insanity of a world where there is no help for those in need, just as there was no help available for us when we were victims of terrible bank fraud: "NSW Supreme Court Case - Macquarie Bank/Perpetual Limited vs Fiona Cristian - Victims Of Bank Fraud Condoned By Judges" http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5 (orchestrated, condoned and protected by an international crime syndicate/terrorist organisation of judges, barristers, registrars, lawyers, politicians, banksters, big business representatives, media moguls and other lackeys who, all together, put up a wall of silence despite our trying many, many avenues. After the family home was stolen and business destroyed we were left close to poverty and destitution caring for 4 young daughters. Three years later not much has changed regardless of all our efforts. Where were all the followers of all the religions to help us? Or do we have to be members of those religions to receive help from others involved in them?

The New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies accused us of being anti - Jewish, see: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6616 and http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6665 because we had posted an excerpt from James von Brun's book: Kill the Best Gentiles: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6054 in which he blames Jews for the problems of the world. Obviously this is not our view because of what we have stated above. We do not hate anyone, whatever religion they follow. We are always open to talk to any religious leader or politician and meet with any judge, member of the Bar, experts, academics, educators etc to share the remedy we offer that heals all the divisions between MAN and MAN, and MAN and the EARTH.

Today, a representative of the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies is threatening to close the website down, because they have decided it is anti - Jewish and that we promote racism. What has the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies done to end the suffering in the world? Can they show that they are concerned with the suffering of ALL men, women and children AND ARE SEEN TO BE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT or are they only concerned with Jewish affairs? If so, they, along with all the other religions that only care for their own, are part of the problem, not part of the solution. The man who rang Arthur today was only concerned with Jewish affairs; he was not interested in our intentions or in anybody else, just as most Christians, Muslims, Sikhs, Catholics, etc, are only interested in their own. While we separate ourselves into groups, dividing ourselves from others with rules, regulations, rituals, procedures and conditions, we will never solve our problems.

No matter what we in the Western World Civilisation of Commerce have been promised by our politicians, religious leaders, scientists, educators, philosophers, etc, for the past two hundred years, all we have seen is ever-increasing destruction of men, women and children and the earth. None of the so-called experts and leaders we have been taught to rely on are coming up with a solution and none of them are taking full-responsibility for the fact that they can't handle the problem. All religious books talk about end times full of destruction and suffering but why do we have to follow this program when there is an alternative to hatred, mayhem and death? Why are our leaders following the program of destruction and death rather than exploring the alternatives? It seems that any mainstream politician, priest or academic are only interested in supporting the RULES OF THE DIVIDE, that maintain the haves and the have nots. For 200+ years, 99% of the world population have been so trained to pass on their responsibility for themselves, others and the earth, that the 1% of the population that make up the leaders of the rest of us are making all the decisions leading to the destruction of all of us and the earth. Let's not forget the education system that brainwashes the 99% of the population that we are free and have equal rights while, in fact, we are feathering the nests of those at the top.

At the root of all our problems is self-centredness, an unwillingness nurtured by the Establishment that keeps us concerned only with our own needs rather than the needs of others around us and the Earth. Instead of creating and releasing acts of love for those around us as gifts to benefit them and the earth, we take, take and take, until there is nothing left. The whole point of the Love for Life website is to show people the root of all our problems and to share the remedy. The extensive research library is there to attract browsers and to provide access to information not available through mainstream channels. If the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies can, after careful examination of our work, prove that anything we are saying is wrong, we will be happy to accept their proof. If they cannot, and they are still insistent on closing the website down, they will be showing themselves to be traitors to MAN because they are not interested in pursuing any avenue that can end the suffering in the world.

All religions, corporations and organisations that support and maintain the Western World Civilisation of Commerce are part of the problem because our civilisation is a world of haves and have nots, racism, violence, hatred, poverty, sickness, discrimination, abuse, starvation, homelessness, corruption, collusion, vindictiveness, social unrest, arrogance, ignorance, fear, war and chaos. While we support civilisation, we support death and destruction because ALL civilisations that have ever existed are apocalyptic by design.

If we truly want peace on earth and freedom for all, we have to let go of all that which keeps us divided, and come together as MAN, conscious living co-creators of creation. The Love For Life website offers a remedy to the problems we all face in the form of DO NO HARM COMMUNITIES: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3641 For more details see here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6511 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 - We also highly recommend that everyone read the brilliant Russian books called The Ringing Cedars: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1125 - The Love For Life Website Homepage also provides lots of inspiring remedy based information: http://loveforlife.com.au - If you want to be kept up to date with our work please register to the Love For Life Mailing List here: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/09/05/14/mailing-list. We usually send two postings per month. Presently (September 2011) there are over 7000 registrations reaching over 500,000 readers across Earth. The website now (September 2011) receives up to 12 million hits per month. Since December 2006, over 100 million people have visited the Love For Life website.

Conscious Love Always
Arthur and Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
17th June 2009

The Cristian Family November 2006

Clarification Regarding Our Intentions
Behind The Use Of Donations

The Love For Life website is offered for free without a fee and without any conditions attached. If people are inspired to donate money, then we accept their gift and have provided an avenue for them to support the work we do through Fiona's Paypal or ANZ bank account http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8515. There is no obligation whatsoever to donate and all are equally welcome to our work and to our "time", whether they donate or not. Over the last 9 years, all the Love For Life work has been put out for free and it has often been donations from supporters that have enabled us to renew the domain name, etc, to keep the website going. While some complain that we have an avenue for donations, others complained when we didn't! Either use it or don't - the choice is yours.

Since Love For Life started March 2005 and website December 2006, Arthur has worked 16 hours a day, 7 days a week unpaid for much of this period, putting together the website and sharing insights to wake people up to what has been done to them, whether through the 11,500+ individual articles, videos, podcasts, debates, discussions, pdf's, research documents, etc, found amongst the 8,500+ posts, as well as helping many, many men and women over the phone, and through email, website correspondence, Facebook and YouTube, and creating the Love For Life food forest vege garden and Love For Life music recording studio. This is our life is a gift commitment to serve MAN/Nature/Earth but we are still severely compromised by "The System" and still have to give to Caesar what is claimed to belong to Caesar, which is where the donations help us.

Fiona & Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
21st July 2014