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To make interstellar travel believable NASA was created. The Apollo Space Program foisted the idea that man could travel to, and walk upon, the moon. Every Apollo mission was carefully rehearsed and then filmed in large sound stages at the Atomic Energy Commissions Top Secret test site in the Nevada Desert and in a secured and guarded sound stage at the Walt Disney Studios within which was a huge scale mock-up of the moon.

All names, missions, landing sites, and events in the Apollo Space Program echo the occult metaphors, rituals, and symbology of the Illuminati's secret religion. The most transparent was the faked explosion on the spacecraft Apollo 13, named "Aquarius" (new age) at 1:13 (1313 military time) on April 13, 1970 which was the metaphor for the initiation ceremony involving the death (explosion), placement in the coffin (period of uncertainty of their survival), communion with the spiritual world and the imparting of esoteric knowledge to the candidate (orbit and observation of the moon without physical contact), rebirth of the initiate (solution of problem and repairs), and the raising up (of the Phoenix, the new age of Aquarius) by the grip of the lions paw (reentry and recovery of Apollo 13).

13 is the number of death and rebirth, death and reincarnation, sacrifice, the Phoenix, the Christ (perfected soul imprisoned in matter), and the transition from the old to the new. Another revelation to those who understand the symbolic language of the Illuminati is the hidden meaning of the names of the Space Shuttles, "A Colombian Enterprise to Endeavor for the Discovery of Atlantis... and all Challengers shall be destroyed."

Exploration of the moon stopped because it was impossible to continue the hoax without being discovered. And of course they ran out of pre-filmed episodes.

No man has ever ascended much higher than 300 miles, if that high, above the Earth's surface. At or under that altitude the astronauts are beneath the radiation of the Van Allen Belt and the Van Allen Belt shields them from the extreme radiation which permeates space. No man has ever orbited, landed on, or walked upon the moon in any publicly known space program. If man has ever truly been to the moon it has been done in secret and with a far different technology.

The tremendous radiation encountered in the Van Allen Belt, solar radiation, cosmic radiation, Solar flares, temperature control, and many other problems connected with space travel prevent living organisms leaving our atmosphere with our known level of technology. Any intelligent high school student with a basic physics book can prove NASA faked the Apollo moon landings

If you doubt this please explain how the astronauts walked upon the moons surface enclosed in a space suit in full sunlight absorbing a minimum of 265 degrees of heat surrounded by a vacuum... and that is not even taking into consideration any effects of cosmic radiation, Solar flares, micrometeorites, etc. NASA tells us the moon has no atmosphere and that the astronauts were surrounded by the vacuum of space.

Heat is defined as the vibration or movement of molecules within matter. The faster the molecular motion the higher the temperature. The slower the molecular motion the colder the temperature. Absolute zero is that point where all molecular motion ceases. In order to have hot or cold, molecules must be present.

A vacuum is a condition of nothingness where there are no molecules. Vacuums exist in degrees. Some scientists tell us that there is no such thing as an absolute vacuum. Space is the closest thing to an absolute vacuum that is known to us. There are so few molecules present in most areas of what we know as "space" that any concept of "hot" or "cold" is impossible to measure. A vacuum is a perfect insulator. That is why a "Thermos" or vacuum bottle is used to store hot or cold liquids in order to maintain the temperature for the longest time possible without re-heating or re-cooling.

Radiation of all types will travel through a vacuum but will not affect the vacuum. Radiant heat from the sun travels through the vacuum of space but does not "warm" space. In fact the radiant heat of the sun has no affect whatsoever until it strikes matter. Molecular movement will increase in direct proportion to the radiant energy which is absorbed by matter. The time it takes to heat matter exposed to direct sunlight in space is determined by its color, its elemental properties, its distance from the sun, and its rate of absorption of radiant heat energy. Space is NOT hot. Space is NOT cold.

Objects which are heated cannot be cooled by space. In order for an object to cool it must first be removed from direct sunlight. Objects which are in the shadow of another object will eventually cool but not because space is "cold". Space is not cold. Hot and cold do not exist in the vacuum of space. Objects cool because the laws of motion dictate that the molecules of the object will slow down due to the resistance resulting from striking other molecules until eventually all motion will stop provided the object is sheltered from the direct and/or indirect radiation of the sun and that there is no other source of heat. Since the vacuum of space is the perfect insulator objects take a very long time to cool even when removed from all sources of heat, radiated or otherwise.

NASA insists the space suits the astronauts supposedly wore on the lunar surface were air conditioned. An air conditioner cannot, and will not work without a heat exchanger. A heat exchanger simply takes heat gathered in a medium such as freon from one place and transfers it to another place. This requires a medium of molecules which can absorb and transfer the heat such as an atmosphere or water. An air conditioner will not and cannot work in a vacuum. A space suit surrounded by a vacuum cannot transfer heat from the inside of the suit to any other place. The vacuum, remember, is a perfect insulator. A man would roast in his suit in such a circumstance.

NASA claims the spacesuits were cooled by a water system which was piped around the body, then through a system of coils sheltered from the sun in the backpack. NASA claims that water was sprayed on the coils causing a coating of ice to form. The ice then supposedly absorbed the tremendous heat collected in the water and evaporated into space.

There are two problems with this that cannot be explained away.

1) The amount of water needed to be carried by the astronauts in order to make this work for even a very small length of time in the direct 55 degrees over the boiling point of water (210 degrees F at sea level on Earth) heat of the sun could not have possibly been carried by the astronauts.

2) NASA has since claimed that they found ice in moon craters. NASA claims that ice sheltered from the direct rays of the sun will NOT evaporate destroying their own bogus "air conditioning" explanation.

Remember this. Think about it the next time you go off in the morning with a "vacuum bottle" filled with hot coffee. Think about it long and hard when you sit down and pour a piping hot cup from your thermos to drink with your lunch four hours later... and then think about it again when you pour the last still very warm cup of coffee at the end of the day.

The same laws of physics apply to any vehicle traveling through space. NASA claims that the spacecraft was slowly rotated causing the shadowed side to be cooled by the intense cold of space... an intense cold that DOES NOT EXIST. In fact the only thing that could have been accomplished by a rotation of the spacecraft is a more even and constant heating such as that obtained by rotating a hot dog on a spit. In reality a dish called Astronaut a la Apollo would have been served. At the very least you would not want to open the hatch upon the crafts return.

NASA knows better than to claim, in addition, that a water cooling apparatus such as that which they claim cooled the astronauts suits cooled the spacecraft. No rocket could ever have been launched with the amount of water needed to work such a system for even a very short period of time. Fresh water weighs a little over 62 lbs. per cubic foot. Space and weight capacity were critical given the lift capability of the rockets used in the Apollo Space Program. No such extra water was carried by any mission whatsoever for suits or for cooling the spacecraft.

On the tapes the Astronauts complained bitterly of the cold during their journey and while on the surface of the moon. They spoke of using heaters that did not give off enough heat to overcome the intense cold of space. It was imperative that NASA use this ruse because to tell the truth would TELL THE TRUTH. It is also proof of the arrogance and contempt in which the Illuminati holds the common man.

What we heard is in reality indicative of an over zealous cooling system in the props used during the filming of the missions at the Atomic Energy Commissions Nevada desert test site, where it is common to see temperatures well over 100 degrees. In the glaring unfiltered direct heat of the sun the Astronauts could never have been cold at any time whatsoever in the perfect insulating vacuum of space.

As proof examine the Lunar Lander on display in the Smithsonian Institute and notice the shrouded and encased cone of the rocket engine INSIDE the Lander which is attached above the rocket nozzle at the bottom center of the Lander. It is this rocket engine which supposedly provided the retro thrust upon landing on the moon and the takeoff thrust during takeoff from the moon. In the actual Lunar Lander this engine is present but in the film and pictures of the inside of the Lunar Lander that was "said" to be on the moon the engine is absent. Then examine the Lunar Lander simulator and you will see exactly where the fake footage was filmed.

It would also be a good idea for you to measure the dimensions of the astronauts in their spacesuits and then measure the actual usable dimensions of the hatch that they had to use to egress and ingress the Lander. Also measure the inside dimensions of the actual Lander and you will see that the astronauts (liars) could not have possibly left or entered in their suits through that hatch. Notice the position of the hinge of the hatch and then examine the Lunar Lander training simulator and measure all the dimensions noted above taking care to note the position of the hinge on the much larger hatch and you may become "illumined"... so to speak.

NASA claims that the space suits worn by the astronauts were pressurized at 5 psi over the ambient pressure (0 psi vacuum) on the moon's surface. We have examined the gloves NASA claims the astronauts wore and find they are made of pliable material containing no mechanical, hydraulic, or electrical devices which would aid the astronauts in the dexterous use of their fingers and hands while wearing the gloves. Experiments prove absolutely that such gloves are impossible to use and that the wearer cannot bend the wrist or fingers to do any dexterous work whatsoever when filled with 5 psi over ambient pressure either in a vacuum or in the earth's atmosphere.

NASA actually showed film and television footage of astronauts using their hands and fingers normally during their EVAs on the so-called lunar surface. The films show clearly that there is no pressure whatsoever within the gloves... a condition that would have caused explosive decompression of the astronauts resulting in almost immediate death if they had really been surrounded by the vacuum of space.

If you don't believe it try it yourself... it is a very simple experiment and does not require a rocket scientist to perform. These are just a few of over a hundred very simple and very easy to prove valid scientific reasons why NASA and the Apollo Space Program are two of the biggest lies ever foisted upon the unsuspecting and trusting People of the world.

We attempted to obtain data on Solar activity and in particular Solar flares which may have been active during the Apollo Moon Missions. We found that data is available for any day of any year during which data has been collected EXCEPT the days and hours of all of the Apollo Moon shots.

That data can not be obtained from any government agency including NASA, NOAA, or the Naval Observatory. This is data that is normally collected and would have been used in calculating the dates of launch, dates and times of EVAs, and extreme radiation hazard. It would have been monitored during times of extra vehicular activity (EVA) of the astronauts while on the moon... that is if any astronauts were ever on the moon. The data is not available because it would demonstrate that the so-called astronauts would have been fried crisp. They would have returned to the earth DEAD if they had actually attempted any such missions.

In addition most, if not all, of the photos, films, and videotape of the Apollo Moon Missions are easily proven to be fake. Anyone with the slightest knowledge of studio photography, studio lighting, and the reality of Lunar physics can easily prove that NASA faked the visual records of the Apollo Space Program. No color film known to man, then or now, had or has the latitude to produce the excellent detail found in shadow and highlighted areas of the photographs supposedly taken on the moon.

Any professional photographer can tell you that those photographs could only have been produced in a controlled environment using studio lighting and could not possibly have been produced in full sunlight in a vacuum on the moon. Some are so obviously fake that when the discrepancies are pointed out to unsuspecting viewers an audible gasp has been heard. Some have actually gone into a mild state of shock. Some People break down and cry. I have seen others become so angry that they have ripped the offending photos to shreds while screaming incoherently.

Kleinknect, the head of Operations at NASA at the time of the Apollo Space Program, is now is now a 33rd Degree Freemason who's brother is the Sovereign Grand Commander of the Council of the 33rd Degree of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry of the Southern Jurisdiction. It was his reward for pulling it off. All of the first astronauts were Freemasons. There is a photograph in the House of the Temple in Washington DC of Neil Armstrong on the surface of the Moon (supposedly) in his spacesuit holding his Masonic Apron in front of his groin. All of the senior officials of NASA have been, and are, members of the Illuminati, Marxists, or communists.

The Soviet Union planned only one manned moon mission. Soviet cosmonauts related to me that their astronauts were literally COOKED by the extreme radiation in space when sent into high orbit through the Van Allen Belt. The USSR never again attempted to send men into or above the Van Allen Belt. If man could not survive the extreme radiation of the Van Allen Belt how could they put a man on the Moon? The Soviet Union scrapped their Man On The Moon program.

The effect upon the people of the world was that if we could go to the moon other creatures from other worlds could travel to our Earth. The escalation of the artificial alien threat scenario since that time is obvious.

The recent revelations of the fraudulent nature of NASA and the Apollo space program by the Intelligence Service and others has resulted in a flood of propaganda, television programs, and films designed to keep the sheople trapped in an ignorant deep sleep. The most ambitious are "Apollo 13" and "From the Earth to the Moon", both involving the actor/producer Tom Hanks. The latter opens with a monologue by Mr. Hanks who walks forward revealing a huge representation of the "God" Apollo (Sun, Osiris, lost word, etc.) guiding his chariot pulled by 4 horses through the heavens.

Why Apollo? Why the Sun? Why the dawn? Get a clue. Go to the Rotunda of the Capitol Building in Washington D.C., stand in the exact middle of the Rotunda and look straight up. Covering the inside of the dome for all to see is a the painting entitled "The Apotheosis of George Washington". The huge painting depicts George Washington transformed as Satan promised into a new "Sun god" (Apollo) in the chariot of Apollo being pulled by four horses across the heavens. The painting is surrounded by all the old pagan "gods" of the old Roman Empire.

More HERE: MAJESTYTWELVE by William Cooper

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Statement: The Moon Generates Its Own Luminosity

See Here: My Spin On Lunacy by Dr James M Palmer: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5933
See Here: Illumination Of The Moon by Dr Neville Thomas Jones, Ph.D: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5934

Response: "In my opinion the Moon is neither transparent, nor does it radiate its own light. Both of these ideas are nullified by what happens during a solar eclipse, when the Moon is totally black . . . . . . [ But ] the conventional explanation for moonlight being simply sunlight reflected off a convex spherical surface is inadequate for describing what we see.

Neville Jones

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Apollo was an "Inside Job" (inside a movie studio )

See Here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5936

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Documented Evidence of a Moon Landing Hoax

See Here: MoonMovie.com - MOON LANDING HOAX: Documented Evidence Of A Hoax: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5937

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"Lying is against the moral standards of many people and is specifically prohibited as a sin in many religions. So why do we do it? A liar is a person who is known to have a tendency to tell lies. People's tolerance for liars is generally very small, and it is often only necessary to be caught lying once (NASA caught in BIG LIE claiming moon landing) to be labelled as a liar and not trusted again."

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NASA promotes Star Wars

"Is NASA a group of scientists? Or a Hollywood entertainment show?

Why are we wasting 16,000,000,000 tax dollars every year on this group?"

EH

See Here: http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-082807a.html

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Moon Landing HOAX:

Apollo 16 - Lifted by wires at 2:17 ( 2 minutes 17 seconds )

We can see the wires, people!

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Fake Jap Moon Photo:

It's the curvature relative to the feature sizes in the Japanese photo and then compared with the larger curvature and lesser detail in the NASA photo. Regarding the high definition of the Japanese photo, the NASA photo was supposed to have been taken on film - a very much higher resolution because of the emulsion grain size. The two moons shown cannot possibly be the same moon with or without stars... The craters appear to be too big compared to the horizon curvature.

Jack Lewis

Note: For a much larger shot of this photo see: http://earthdeception.googlepages.com/hdtv_006_1_l.jpg/hdtv_006_1_l-full...

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News item: One Giant Blunder for Mankind: How NASA Lost Moon Pictures

See Here: One giant blunder for mankind: how NASA lost moon pictures - Sydney Morning Herald by Richard Macey
August 5, 2006 Note: After clicking scroll up to top of this page to view this news article.

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One giant blunder for mankind: how NASA lost moon pictures
by Richard Macey
Sydney Morning Herald
August 5, 2006

Inset… the high-quality footage that was transmitted to Parkes. Main..."There will only ever be one first moon walk", John Sarkissian at the Parkes telescope.

THE heart-stopping moments when Neil Armstrong took his first tentative steps onto another world are defining images of the 20th century: grainy, fuzzy, unforgettable.

But just 37 years after Apollo 11, it is feared the magnetic tapes that recorded the first moon walk - beamed to the world via three tracking stations, including Parkes's famous "Dish" - have gone missing at NASA's Goddard Space Centre in Maryland.

A desperate search has begun amid concerns the tapes will disintegrate to dust before they can be found.

It is not widely known that the Apollo 11 television broadcast from the moon was a high-quality transmission, far sharper than the blurry version relayed instantly to the world on that July day in 1969.

Among those battling to unscramble the mystery is John Sarkissian, a CSIRO scientist stationed at Parkes for a decade. "We are working on the assumption they still exist," Mr Sarkissian told the Herald.

"Your guess is a good as mine as to where they are."

Mr Sarkissian began researching the role of Parkes in Apollo 11's mission in 1997, before the movie The Dish was made. However, when he later contacted NASA colleagues to ask about the tapes, they could not be found.

"People may have thought 'we have tapes of the moon walk, we don't need these'," said the scientist who hopes a new, intensive hunt will locate them.

If they can be found, he proposes making digitalised copies to treat the world to a very different view of history.

But the searchers may be running out of time. The only known equipment on which the original analogue tapes can be decoded is at a Goddard centre set to close in October, raising fears that even if they are found before they deteriorate, copying them may be impossible.

"We want the public to see it the way the moon walk was meant to be seen," Mr Sarkissian said.

"There will only ever be one first moon walk."

Originally stored at Goddard, the tapes were moved in 1970 to the US National Archives. No one knows why, but in 1984 about 700 boxes of space flight tapes there were returned to Goddard.

"We have the documents to say they were withdrawn, but no one knows exactly where they went," Mr Sarkissian said.

Many people involved had retired or died.

Also among tapes feared missing are the original recordings of the other five Apollo moon landings. The format used by the original pictures beamed from the moon was not compatible with commercial technology used by television networks. So the images received at Parkes, and at tracking stations near Canberra and in California, were played on screens mounted in front of conventional television cameras.

"The quality of what you saw on TV at home was substantially degraded" in the process, Mr Sarkissian said, creating the ghostly images of Armstrong and Aldrin that strained the eyes of hundreds of millions of people watching around the world.

Even Polaroid photographs of the screen that showed the original images received by Parkes are significantly sharper than what the public saw. While the technique looks primitive today, Mr Sarkissian said it was the best solution that 1969 technology offered.

Among the few who saw the original high-quality broadcast was David Cooke, a Parkes control room engineer in 1969.

"I can still see the screen," Mr Cook, 74, said. "I was amazed, the quality was fairly good."

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"But just 37 years after Apollo 11, it is feared the magnetic tapes that recorded the first moon walk - beamed to the world via three tracking stations, including Parkes's famous "Dish" - have gone missing at NASA's Goddard Space Centre in Maryland." "Also among tapes feared missing are the original recordings of the other five Apollo moon landings."

Response: Tapes "disintegrating into dust before they can be found," all alleged missions have suffered from the tape grabbers, tapes could never be copied or played even if 'found', too good for TV at the time, had to be played onto a screen . . . Who believes this garbage?

Neville Jones

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Now Chinese as well are exposed as Space Exploration Liars!

China's lunar probe pictures taken last week, left, and the 2005 NASA pictures, right. The head

scientist of China's flagship lunar probe programme has been forced to defend the authenticity of its first published photograph after internet moon-gazers suggested it might be a copy.The Chinese prime minister, Wen Jiabao, unveiled the first photograph sent back on the inaugural mission of the Chang-e 1 lunar probe amid much patriotic emotion last week.

But in a response to public scepticism unusual for such a token of national pride, internet bulletin boards began pointing out the similarity of the photograph to one published by NASA, the American space agency, two years ago. But one bulletin board poster, who called himself IMCC, wondered if it was a coincidence that the picture was so similar to the NASA version. "The two pictures are not just alike," he wrote. "They are actually are the same."

Excerpted from Here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1571359/China-defends-lunar-pr...

China defends lunar probe pictures
By Richard Spencer in Beijing
Last Updated: 2:41AM GMT 06 Dec 2007

The head scientist of China's flagship lunar probe programme has been forced to defend the authenticity of its first published photograph after internet moon-gazers suggested it might be a copy.

* Beijing to target bike thieves with identity scheme: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/12/04/wchina10...
* Richard Spencer's Beijing blog: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/foreign/richardspencer/

The Chinese prime minister, Wen Jiabao, unveiled the first photograph sent back on the inaugural mission of the Chang-e 1 lunar probe amid much patriotic emotion last week.

But in a response to public scepticism unusual for such a token of national pride, internet bulletin boards began pointing out the similarity of the photograph to one published by NASA, the American space agency, two years ago.

Ouyang Ziyuan, head scientist of the China Lunar Exploration Project, issued a statement insisting the photograph had not been copied and really was genuine.

"China's first moon photo is absolutely not a fake,” he said, adding that though the two shots were of the same part of the moon's surface, a new crater was shown in the Chinese version.

Chang'e 1, named after a fairy who fled to the moon from an unhappy marriage, was launched in October to much fanfare.

It represents the start of the second phase, after manned space flight, of China's long-term goal of putting a man on the moon by 2020.

When the first photograph, a compilation of 19 individual shots, was unveiled to the public, Mr Wen was described by state media as "passionate", an unusual epithet for a Chinese Communist Party leader.

"Chinese people's dream of flying to the moon for more than 1,000 years has started to materialize," he said.

"It showcases eloquently that the Chinese people have the will, the ambition and the capability to compose more shining new chapters while ascending the science and technology summit."

But one bulletin board poster, who called himself IMCC, wondered if it was a coincidence that the picture was so similar to the NASA version.

"The two pictures are not just alike," he wrote. "They are actually are the same. If this is indeed a fake, I feel truly sorry. How can such a big country try to fool the public?"

The suggestion might be regarded as another coming-of-age ritual for the fast-developing China, like the space programme itself.

After all, the allegation that Neil Armstrong's moon landing of 1969 was faked by NASA is one of the international conspiracy theorist's favourites.

However it comes at a time when China's 160 million internet surfers scent blood.

The most widely discussed dispute of recent weeks has been about whether a photograph allegedly of a South China tiger in a forest, which would have been the first sighting for years of an animal now thought only to survive in zoos, was created by photoshop.

The photograph was widely publicised and welcomed by government wildlife officials.

An official inquiry yesterday pronounced it fake - two weeks after an internet hunt which eventually found a calendar shot of a tiger whose appearance was identical to that apparently photographed in the forest.

"When the tiger-man was eventually shown to be a fake, the whole world laughed," IMCC went on. "Maybe this is the same. What on earth is going on?"

Not everyone agreed. One pointed out that since NASA had photographed the entire surface of the moon, a Chinese version could only be a fake if it didn't have a perfect match in the American set.

Close examination of the two lunar photographs does suggest that they were of the same section of the moon - a highland area located between 54 to 70 degrees south latitude and 57 to 83 degrees east longitude.

But there does seem to be an extra hole in the Chinese version, which Mr Ouyang attributed to the possibility that the surface had been struck by a meteorite or other celestial body in the last two years.

Or, he added, the Chinese photograph might just be of better quality than the American.

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"And look at NASA. How much longer are we going to pretend that astronauts landed on the moon? NASA claims they have two rovers on Mars, but I have a feeling they're both in the Australian desert.
In the world today, anybody who gets a PhD is referred to as a scientist. We assume that scientists are intelligent people who we can look to for advice, but we're not going to get sensible advice from an educated monkey.

Don't be impressed by a college diploma. The people who graduate from college are certainly capable of memorizing information, and some excel at performing math operations, but many of them are criminals or mental defects. Just look at how many of them are lying to us right now about 9/11, the Apollo moon landing, and the Holocaust."

E.H.

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The part on phoney space travel--and the moon specifically--is almost certainly correct, and a very, very big conspiracy certifier, if proven. But, at this stage, something more in the way of hard proof is needed to certify the conspiracy which, by definition, is deception promoted by a cabal of conspirators. And we now have all the evidence required to show that the whole NASA led space fraud is the tool for the establishment of the Pharisee Religion's alternative creation scenario through the Big Bang Paradigm of 15 billion years of evolutonism, etc.

To the need for proof about the moons landings being faked, I agree with the Van Allen Belt argument and a score of other powerful pieces of evidence. I can only add this: I could never figure out how--say with the Apollo 13 shot ( Hanks movie too ) where everything went wrong and there was not enough power to operate much of anything--they would be able to catch up to the Earth allegedly going some 67,000 MPH and them going much slower... The LEO speeds are c.18,000 MPH.

Presumably, the alleged orbit speed around the moon would be in that ball park. So they come around the moon, can't land, and yet "steer" for the Earth retreating from them 3-4 times faster than they're going. They can't step on the gas; nothing's working. They're flopping around, not even knowing where the Earth is.

Then, in the movie anyway, they spot it out of the window and rejoice that all they have to do is keep it in the window and head on in...not just to anyplace on Earth that happens to have allegedly rotated to where they bust through, but to within hollering distance of a bunch of ships sent out to pick them up. And, of course, they do it; everybody saw the pickup on real-timeTV. But how did they accelerate to the speed needed to not only boost them to 67,000 MPH just to stay even, but an additional X thousand MPH to cover the c.200,000 mile gap between them and a precise landing spot?

That increase in speed would have to be precise. They had no such boosters, and no power to operate them even if they had them. Gravity explains nothing that could remotely solve this need ... there being practically none of it at 150,000 to 200,000 miles out; and certainly none that would drive the ship to a programmed entry and splash-down location. Houston, we have a problem!

Marshall Hall

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Any ideas as to why NASA has put rubbish like this up on its web sites? Neville Jones

The Earth's clouds don't look natural, they look painted.

The sun's glow about the Earth is too perfect - no variation.

No stars to be seen.

If you double-click on the photo and then scroll down there is shown the moon's surface - shouldn't it be dark on the moon?

Also must be very hot inside those space suits.

"The whole image is just an artist's impression, but the point is why would a science institute be putting such drawings on its web site? Surely they have enough real images of space?"
Neville Jones

"A slow and subtle substitute of reality over time for more and more imagination/art . . . calling it "science" . . . till folk don't know and can't distinguish the difference between the imagination and the reality . . . thus becoming . . . 'Reality Provided'."

Allen Daves

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The Grandaddy of all Deceptions

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