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Videos: The Charlie Rose Science Series: Pandemics
The Charlie Rose Science Series: Pandemics Sir Paul Nurse, David Nabarro, Laurie Garrett, Larry Brilliant, Jeff Koplan - The Charlie Rose Science Series: Pandemics - The panel discusses the possibility of a global pandemic, including influenza, drug resistant tuberculosis, and polio, and considers issues of worlwide preparedness and response preparation to potential threats.
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Comment by Kayla Moonwatcher, ND, Chom. on Monday, Oct 22 at 12:52 PM
RE: H5N1 Pandemic Preparedness I want people to know that they do not have to feel helpless. There are several simple things that everyone can do to be well prepared. 1) Purchase the Homeopathic remedy Ocsillococinum and keep it on hand for your family. This remedy is specific to bird flu and can be taken preventatively as well as curatively, and can be purchased at any health food store. Each packet contains clear instructions (or contact a Classical Homeopath) and can be stored for several years (exp. date on each packet). 2) Perelandra-ltd.com offers seasonal Flu Solution and a specific bird flu (FSBS+) solution that will support your body's microbial balance and immune system. Again, these solutions can be used both preventatively and curatively. 3) Keep your home stocked with both food and water supplies for your entire family (including pets) for at least 3 months. Be smart about quantities necessary for drinking, bathing, toilet flushing, etc. I also encourage you to have some type of camping cook stove and fuel, fire pit and wood, matches, etc., as well as candles, flashlights, wool blankets, sleeping bags (keeping warm/preventing a chill also protects you from susceptibility to viruses). The old saying, "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" is absolutely true for this situation. Spending a little time and money now will save you from panic and tragedy later.
Comment by al medina on Friday, Oct 19 at 01:30 AM
Dear Folks, Thank you for a fine show. H5N1 is grossly underreported and misdiagnosed as other diseases in Asia. It's worse than we are led to believe. I track Henry Niman's www.recombinomics.com for a more truthful and detailed expose. Lastly, get your pantry together. . .food and water and other essentials and plan for minimum of three months of being holed up in your home if H5N1 becomes transmissable (or another type of virus). There are plenty of bird flu websites to help in your planning. It's only a little money but you'll feel a lot better. Relying on the "system" is not wise. Good luck.
Comment by Ben Andrews on Friday, Aug 24 at 09:53 PM
REPEAT POST (no changes except formating): THE key observation of this panel was that there have been no significant advances medical-technical, administrative, or regulatory that would allow us a better outcome than what occurred in 1918! ONE of the panelists asserted that during the 1918 pandemic those municipalities that acted sooner to eliminate all public gatherings fared much better than other communities that waited. IF THE U.S. is to significantly reduce death rates below that of the 1918 pandemic than it must have more than just a plan (if it even has that) to quickly stop all land, air, and sea travel into the country (within hours of the national public health officer's emergency order). ALL preparations for the subsequent emergency travel resumption and screening program must also be in complete readiness. THE best outcome will only be achieved if almost all countries can implement such temporary travel suspension and emergency travel resumption programs. RETAIL businesses big and small must eliminate the use of common purchase transaction instruments (both electronic and manual) by all customers. THESE businesses will also have hand sanitizer dispensers installed at every customer check-out point whether employee or customer operated. OTHERWISE retail business sales will be an insidious vector of disease transmission and will therefore probably be restricted to essential products and services. AND of course there will have to be an emergency "surgical" mask and hand sanitizer (2 oz pocket containers) distribution programs on the shelf ready to go for those citizens who have not already purchased such items (presumably during a declared public health precautionary period prior to the actual public health emergency declaration. TO RESTATE the obvious we have not yet reached a significant level of pandemic preparedness. AND to paraphrase one of the panelists the lack of a reasonable political discussion of this and other public health issues may preclude us from ever reaching a significant level of pandemic preparedness. WE MUST create a national public health officer to be appointed on the basis of past public health experience, demonstrated administrative competence, and relevant public health research qualifications. THIS national public health officer must have adequate proactive regulatory powers, exigent preparedness powers, and emergency police powers. (We can't rely on a patchwork of state and county public health officials to control the next pandemic.) WE MUST create an appointment board of qualified and preeminent public health experts to ensure that the national public health officer meets to above criteria and is insulated from political interference. THAT board must also have sufficient clout to ensure that there is adequate funding of the national and local public health functions.
Comment by Kelly on Wednesday, Aug 22 at 10:29 AM
I thought the show was informative. I'd like to see another show based on how individuals should best prepare for a pandemic, especially one that may be as severe as 1918 or worse.
Comment by Terry Miller on Tuesday, Aug 21 at 02:18 PM
Probably one of the best most informative shows to date on Pan Flu. Thank you Charlie!!
Comment by Concerned on Tuesday, Aug 21 at 11:44 AM
Where can you buy the mask that you spoke about on the show?
Comment by Marcia Miner on Monday, Aug 20 at 02:56 PM
I spoke to my town's health department following your great show on the pandemic. The health officer was very generous with all the town is doing. They have a huge number of volunteers in addition to the 40 health providers who have been having workshops regularly to keep them ready. This October when they give out the regular flu shots they are going to do it as a training period. The procedure will be done ALL by volunteers and as quicky and efficiently as possible as though it were shots for the pandemic. We have a town population and a large senior population, so it will be an excellent readiness experiment.
Comment by Richard Karbowski Jr. on Friday, Aug 17 at 03:33 PM
Thanks for another great show!! One quick point(maybe trivial) for Laurie Garrett when she mentioned near the start of the show of a flu outbreak which affected horses in the military and called it the Calvary (the purported site of Jesus' Crucifixion also known as Golgotha) instead of the correct term: cavalry. She did the same during an interview for one of her books awhile back. She's very intelligent and a pleasure to listen to; hopefully she'll see this and correct the error. Thanks for your dedication to an outstanding series--it's a pleasure to watch.
Comment by Dan on Friday, Aug 17 at 02:39 PM
ummm... the plural of "nemesis" is "nemeses". :o) wow. Nobel Prize winners! great program as always, Mr. Rose.
Comment by M. Messerschmidt on Friday, Aug 17 at 12:13 AM
The commentators occasionally touched on the importance of poverty in the role of disease outbreak and disease spread (e.g. new flues regularly developing in poor countries like Indonesia, 31 fold greater death rate in poor vs. rich countries during the 1918 flu, and the scenario of pandemic flu starting in Jakarta or other rapidly growing globalized city with poor containment capability). These examples highlight the self interest that people in wealthy nations have in funding development work to build the capacity of the developing world to reduce the current burden of communicable disease (thereby reducing the risk pool from which pandemics emerge) and to implement containment and treatment strategies (thereby reducing the rate of pandemic spread). I am grateful for the work organizations such as the Gates Foundation have done with in this vein and would like to see my own (US) governmentâ??s commitment grow further.
Comment by Sandra Wallach Laurie on Thursday, Aug 16 at 10:03 PM
I have been following this bird flu for more than 2 years, and to see these people that are in the know, know nothing more than I read from the start. The news on TV is so lacking in any real way. Dont you guys get it? We need to know how not to get infected. Every person needs a check list, maybe the best our goverment can do is to mail and tell people to read it and keep it up to date with 1. what is the name of the face mask and buy them now, and gloves people during the 1918 wore them 2. what food to have I would think not fresh but canned, 3.medicine you take have a month on hand 4. to not go to work or school if you are sick(remember when we were taught that years ago) 5. and if you do get ill, what to do in your home with others, keep them in one room, open the windows to let the air out wear a mask and gloves when helping them eat and when you change their clothes contain the clothes in the sheets and keep it clean as possible,wash clothes in hot water. simple stuff like dont keep tooth brushes all together and change yours out for a new one anyway once a month, when you come home think of taking off your coat then hat, then shoes in your garage or porch area, keeping the mask on and gloves take your clothes off and wash them, I dont think Im going to far with this, you want to remember you get infected through the air and your hands what they touch and if you rub your eye, nose or bite your nails , I am just thinking that people have not been taught how to do this.
Comment by Sandra Wallach Laurie on Thursday, Aug 16 at 09:16 PM
I must say that once again I watch a show and nobody is telling people what to do. They talked about some face mask, yet didnt inform what to buy or how to choose one. Sounds like we will be on our own, it will be like Katrina what we need to know we arent getting, our newspapers should do front page news on this every month, none of this look it up online, or ask the county where you live, it needs to be made public, front page and these people need to tell us what is known to do real stuff like we need what 3 weeks of food? and when we buy buy food what kind? the masks what kind and I think gloves also. My grandmother lived through the 1918 flu, and she told me about entire families being whiped out, people putting their dead out on the street, and what if there are little childern . we need to get to know our neighbors, which I can say has changed for me and I have lived in my home for 30 years, my grandmother told me how people looked after each other, it just scares me that no one on that panel had a plan for the people didnt even go into that, all you did was scare me. And that is wrong, if you know so whats the secret? give me a list of what to buy have on hand, and if I must leave my home what I should do
Comment by Ben Andrews on Thursday, Aug 16 at 06:42 PM
The key observation of this panel was that there have been no significant advances medical-technical, administrative, or regulatory that would allow us a better outcome than what occurred in 1918! One of the panelists asserted that during the 1918 pandemic those municipalities that acted sooner to eliminate all public gatherings fared much better than other communities that waited. If the U.S. is to significantly reduce death rates below that of the 1918 pandemic than it must have more than just a plan (if it even has that) to quickly stop all land, air, and sea travel into the country (within hours of the national public health officer's emergency order). All preparations for the subsequent emergency travel resumption and screening program must also be in complete readiness. The best outcome will only be achieved if almost all countries can implement such temporary travel suspension and emergency travel resumption programs. Retail businesses big and small must eliminate the use of common purchase transaction instruments (both electronic and manual) by all customers. These businesses will also have hand sanitizer dispensers installed at every customer check-out point whether employee or customer operated. Otherwise retail business sales will be an insidious vector of disease transmission and will therefore probably be restricted to essential products and services. And of course there will have to be an emergency "surgical" mask and hand sanitizer (2 oz pocket containers) distribution programs on the shelf ready to go for those citizens who have not already purchased such items (presumably during a declared public health precautionary period prior to the actual public health emergency declaration. To restate the obvious we have not yet reached a significant level of pandemic preparedness. And to paraphrase one of the panelists the lack of a reasonable political discussion of this and other public health issues may preclude us from ever reaching a significant level of pandemic preparedness. We must create a national public health officer to be appointed on the basis of past public health experience, demonstrated administrative competence, and relevant public health research qualifications. This national public health officer must have adequate proactive regulatory powers, exigent preparedness powers, and emergency police powers. (We can't rely on a patchwork of state and county public health officials to control the next pandemic.) We must create an appointment board of qualified and preeminent public health experts to ensure that the national public health officer meets to above criteria and is insulated from political interference. That board must also have sufficient clout to ensure that there is adequate funding of the national and local public health functions.
Comment by edward j shanley on Thursday, Aug 16 at 06:41 PM
Excellent show. People were clear and concise even though the subject has soo many variables. I came away that I must understand this subject more for my family's protection. Also I will write my business leader to see if they have done a pre planning concerning this subject. It is clear from the discussion if a pandemic occurs our governments- national & local will be unable to help if the a large percentage of the population is affected.
Comment by Lisabeth Wright, RN (retired) on Thursday, Aug 16 at 03:01 PM
I was glad to see the program on pandemics. There has been a lack of interest by the general media lately in this looming subject. Your show brought up the following considerations in my mind. I would like information about a pandemic in terms of the average citizen. When should the decision be made to isolate? What would isolate mean? Not leaving the house, not answering the door? Going out but with a mask and not touching anyone? What about handling objects, like mail? I have heard it said by experts in the World Health Organization and other distinguished scientists in the field, that each household should have three months supply of food, medicines, etc. Everyone should be ready to â??go it aloneâ?? for three months, no services whatsoever. This would mean garbage pickup, but would it mean that no water would come out of our taps? Would our toilets still flush? How would we cope with that? These are some of the questions if everyone remained healthy. What if a family member became ill with the Avian Flu? What are the symptoms? What should we do for the family member? Throw them out the door? I would believe we should isolate them in a room, shutting the door, allowing only one caretaker. Should the ventilation be cut off to that room, so that a separate heating and cooling system is required? Does the average person know how to care for a sick person without getting sick themselves? What home care could be given to a person with avian flu? What medications should we have on hand now to be able to give that patient? Will bedpans and urinals be needed? Will the human waist need to be bagged and disposed of separately? What mask should the caretaker be wearing? Why arenâ??t the Departments of Health mailing out comprehensive circulars with this information, now? I havenâ??t received one have you?
Comment by doris on Thursday, Aug 16 at 02:38 PM
August 16 rerun of Aug. 15 show..terrific show..astute guests...wow: Jeff Koplan was, for all the world, Dick Cavett = same voice, same body language, same manner!!! I was sure that, at least, his last name was going to be Cavett (maybe Dick's brother?)Did anyone else notice that? ..the more he moved and talked, the more Dick Cavett he was....
Comment by Enoch Page on Thursday, Aug 16 at 11:54 AM
As a university professor, I was so glad to hear this discussion and particularly the comments of the professor or administrator from Emory University where they already have a plan in place and have develop a shared understanding of the tie between global warming, natural disasters and pandemics. When student activists ask me what should be their focus, they naturally want to work on the more attractive and popular issues, and they have looked at me incredulously when I direct them to get behind a movement for preparedness. I suspect that this sounds reactionary to them and I know their blindness is just a function of how their priorities have been shaped in schools, by peer groups and especially through the media. Preparing for being able to make a reasonable response to an inevitable pandemic currently exceeds their political imaginations, but hopefully this program will help them to grasp the urgency of the situation. Careful planning can't always save people, but it was helpful to hear the report that in the last influenza epidemic of the 19th century that communities which had prepared fared far better than those whose early response to the question was dismissal. Thanks for much for airing these important issues.
Comment by Denise C., Alaska on Thursday, Aug 16 at 03:58 AM
After following the genetics of this issue for over 2 years, itâ??s encouraging to see conversations evolve from the skepticism of the past. H5N1 poses far too much risk of serious consequences to be taken lightly. It was good to see both sides of the pendulum â?? David Navarroâ??s optimistic â??3 weeks to contain itâ?? scenario to Laurie Garrettâ??s â??all bets are off once itâ??s in a major cityâ??. Laurieâ??s explanation of a global spread within a day is not all that far-fetched. Families should take the discussion about the importance of planning seriously. The possibility of an extended quarantine shows the need for individual preparation. Waves during 1918 lasted 6 weeks. What other insurance premiums can you eat if the disaster youâ??re insuring for doesnâ??t materialize? Nobody every answered the question about pre-pandemic vaccines. It was especially good to see them emphasize that during a pandemic the government will NOT come riding in on white horses to rescue folks. They made the point well that contingency planning for businesses should define what core activities need to be continued and how that will be accomplished without staff reporting to work, possible lack of materials due to shipping cessation, etc. We are all well served by PBS keeping this topic in the public discussion arena. Thank you PBS & Charlie Rose.
Comment by Catherine Moseley on Thursday, Aug 16 at 03:44 AM
Mr. Rose, Re: Panel Discussion of Pandemic Virus, broad-cast in my area Wednesday, August 15, 2007. Many times I have thoroughly enjoyed the topics and interviews you navigate with such class and intelligence. It takes an extraordinary and gifted person to extract relevent information during a given interview, and a uniquely confident person to accomplish that without a need to become the central character of each discussion. What I would like to say is that I found the above-mentioned forum to be timely, necessary and very enlightening (even to a lay person)! It would be wonderful to partner with a major network, for an encore presentaton, during the "prime time" hour(s). This would maximize viewership and intellengently address many private fears people from all walks of life are currently experiencing on these very subjects. Without much additional effort, the panel's views, discussion and statistics could successfully be incorporated into a Junior High or High School science and/or health cirriculum as well. Perhaps the frightening but accurate remarks about the return of Polio and Small Pox would help to drive home the need for child immunizations, as well as adult booster innoculations to reduce the risk of repeating the epedemic breakouts of the 1940's and 1950's. Thank you so very much for your continuing integrity, dedication to current events, and the preparedness you regularly bring to the table. With warmest regards, Catherine Moseley
Comment by Jeremiah V. Parunak on Thursday, Aug 16 at 01:00 AM
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Comment by Patrick Friel on Wednesday, Aug 15 at 12:21 AM
Dear Mr. Rose and Ms. Vega, My wife and I DVR the â??Charlie Roseâ?? show every day. We watch regularly and are among your biggest fans. Thank you for all youâ??ve done and your recent interview with several world-class HIV/AIDS experts. The show focused on AIDS vaccine research and the difficulties of making treatment accessible in developing countries where 90+ per cent of the epidemic is occurring. It was a terrific show; however, I must say we think you and your producers should give equal time to the subject of prevention, and in particular to the importance of investing in behavior change and male/female condom programming. As I recall condoms were mentioned twice by your panel and then only in passing. (Iâ??m an old hand at counting the number of times AIDS experts mention condoms: I was invited to work with Dr. Jonathan Mannâ??s team at the WHO Global Programme on AIDS in April 1988 and started a group there called â??Condom and Virucide Servicesâ??. GPA had been in existence for more than a year before it occurred to anyone that condoms were not on the agenda in a serious way. This is something I tried, with limited success, to change.) Itâ??s estimated by UNAIDS that some 13,700 people are infected with HIV every day! The stigma attached to HIV positive people is a well-known subject; less well known is the stigma associated with condom use. Seth Berkley is right that new HIV infections are vastly outpacing access to treatment and that monogamous married women in many countries are at highest risk but that little is being done to address their plight. Prevention is critical. Scott Hammer says male circumcision falls into the â??non-vaccine prevention discussionâ?? which is an interesting turn of phase I had honestly not heard before. The development of a microbicide is another non-vaccine prevention method. Julie Lieberman says that the private pharmaceutical industry has no interest in microbicides yet investments in this method now total in the range of $1 billion. When male circumcision is eventually rolled out and a microbicide is developed, delivered and made accessible to women and girls it is estimated that each will be in the range of 50-60 per cent effective. And, the effectiveness of both will be heavily dependent on the same programming factors that restrain existing efforts to distribute and promote male and female condoms. Ideologues tell us that even though condoms can be 95-99 per cent effective in use, abstinence is 100 per cent. (â??Would you jump out of a plane wearing a parachute that was judged 95 per cent effective?â??) We know (or should know) that these folks are comparing theoretical effectiveness with use effectiveness. Yes, abstinence is 100 per cent effective if it is practiced 100 per cent of the time, but because it is not, its use effectiveness is commensurately less. Fair and balanced news media allow these inaccurate pictures of condom effectiveness to circulate as if every scientific truth has to be presented with a countervailing faith-based truth to be balanced. This is nonsense: the public needs accurate information to make informed choices. The upshot of all this is that condoms have a bad name. â??If everyone engaging in risky sex were to start using condoms today the epidemic would be over tomorrow.â?? We are nevertheless still more attracted to medical, pharmaceutical and research-laden solutions. I can show you some field research conducted in three hard-hit African countries that lays this out in a forceful way. In spite of the many studies and success stories about the effectiveness of condom programming to reduce the incidence of STD/HIV infection, the global dispensers of AIDSâ?? programme money are more drawn to investing in treatment and the elusive cure. Prevention strategies are well documented and disseminated but the investments to make them work in a sustainable way are just not there at the same levels. Overall levels of AIDS funding for prevention, treatment, care and support that are available today are a fraction of the $48 billion/year Seth Berkley says we need, and the prevention share of that sum is probably the least well understoodâ?¦ not to mention the capacity of resource poor countries to absorb the needed resources. Complicating the picture are structural or environmental factors in developing countries such as gender inequality, lack of education (especially for girls), and weak physical and administrative infrastructure. Because they are so difficult and because they involve shifting the focus from individual donor-driven projects, they tend to be de-emphasized. In short, there are a number of important prevention-related issues that should be aired. Please let me propose to you a panel of individuals who can explore these issues in a compelling way: 1. John Stover, The Futures Group, lead author of the only technical article cited by the UN Secretary Generalâ??s report on HIV/AIDS in June 2006. At the first UN General Assembly meeting on AIDS in 2001 Stover presented a short list of prevention interventions that if funded and implemented would help halt and begin to reverse the epidemic. At the review meeting in 2006 UNAIDS had to report that we were still where we were 5 years earlier. Condoms are used in 9 per cent of risky sex acts. HIV infection rate continues to climb. 2. Julia Kim, with her husband, headed up the Rural AIDS Development and Action Research (RADAR) in Acornhoek, South Africa, with the University of Witwatersrand and the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, and carried out ground-breaking work in community-based AIDS education combined with microfinance projects for village women. 3. Bunmi Makinwa, Director of the UNAIDS Office in New York City, has his finger on the pulse of the global prevention picture. 4. Bidia Deperthes, in charge of male and female condom programming at UNFPA, the only UNAIDS related agency that is focused on condom programming. At the moment, she is the only full-time staff dealing with condoms. I guarantee you will have a stimulating discussion and most importantly you will stimulate much-needed debate on HIV/AIDS prevention funding levels and priorities. Thanks for this opportunity to suggest some programming of vital public interest. (Needless to say there is also need for a similar programme that focuses on the AIDS problem here in the US. (Letâ??s make sure that never again a Vice-Presidential Debate (Edwards-Cheney) will display such ignorance of a critical national issue.) Patrick Friel Patrick Friel, PhD Reproductive Health HIV/AIDS Consultancy Tel: 212-972-0912 Cell: 917-902-4240
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Ben Lowrey benlowrey.com Interviews Arthur Cristian www.loveforlife.com.au - 8th February 2012 - 89 Minutes 47 Seconds. Arthur discusses a wide range of subjects from Freeman & the law to how "The System" is designed to have us process the curses of "The System". He talks about his and Fiona's experiences with the law & why Love For Life started. Arthur also discusses the remedy to the tyranny of "The System" & the way back to peace, truth,freedom, joy, abundance & Do No Harm for all of life without loss of uniqueness or the need for slaves & rulers. Who we really are, what we are really part of & our true purpose is very different to what we are taught by the brainwashing of "The System" that has us re-present the thoughts of other men & women rather than thinking unique thoughts inspired by direct experience, perception interaction with nature. Everything we, the Cristian family, have gone through, from bank fraud and the theft of the family home to death threats and attempts on Arthur's life, is touched on.
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56 Minutes 25 Seconds
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
21st October 2011
63 Minutes
"The Dream of Life" is the first in a series of videos from Love For Life with Arthur Cristian explaining some of the key insights of Love for Life, interspersed with text accompanied by music from the Love For Life Art House Studio. The music is still a work in progress but we preferred to use Love For Life music than music unconnected with Love for Life. When the songs have been recorded to a professional standard, they will be released on You Tube. Arthur explains Freemasonic/Satanic tools such as duality - re-presenting methods used to cause MAN to fall into the fairytale that is "The System". He explains how to spot the traps of "The System" and the remedy that brings about a world of peace, freedom, joy, abundance & Do No Harm for all of life without causing loss of uniqueness and without the need for slaves and rulers. Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
83 Minutes 47 Seconds
23rd October 2011
An impromptu video recorded after a day gathering recycled materials for a shelving system for plants that will become the framework of a hot house at the tip. We will take some more videos as we go so that people can see how we do it. Arthur, Hannah and Andy discuss planting food, community living, the spells of "The System" and the importance of coming together to co-create a world of freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance and Do No Harm for all of life. They revisit a few of the themes discussed in The Dream of Life Part One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5O-S6wFgts
The revisions of the 2006/2007 article, "The Ten Steps of Kindom": http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5788 is nearly finished and this gives very clear steps as to how to wean our lives out of "The System" and back to living as who we really are. We are still determined to create a tribe and, having Hannah and Andy in our lives is the first step. It is amazing how much difference it makes having just two more people on board, in terms of what we are achieving and the fun we are having. The sooner people come, the sooner we create a world of Do No Harm.
For the past few weeks, Arthur has been appearing on the Skid Row radio program http://www.skidrow.com.au & http://www.radioskidrow.org with Workers Radio Jack Frost: http://www.radioskidrow.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&l... and other guests on Thursday mornings. He is on from 6.15am - 7.00am, Sydney time, and you can listen to the show here: http://60.242.197.162/stream.
Missing Minister: The Wars Between Us Or The War Against Us?
(Top-Secret Spy Plane Was Used In The Hunt For Missing State Government Minister Tim Holding
ABC News 2nd September 2009)
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
7th September 2009
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6822
Also see: Invasion Of Australia And New Zealand?
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
30th November 2009
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7040
The Dream Of Life - Part One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5O-S6wFgts - Video embedded below.
See also: Key To Kindom - Co-Creation Of Do No Harm Communities Causing A Mass Exodus From "The System": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uYjq5oxz2I. Video embedded below.
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Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
26th October 2011
In this impromptu video Arthur Cristian discusses the law and the way we are tricked into making claims over and taking responsibility for our strawman/legal person so that we put our lives under the standing of men and women whose authority we accept. Our belief systems con us into accepting "representatives" of "The System" as people who have power over us, even though we have never been asked if we agree to this. Who are you answerable to? All legal paperwork, including UCC forms are an admittance and acceptance of slave status which is why those doing all their Freeman/Sovereignty paperwork are no freer and under no more protection than the rest of us. The paperwork is also a distraction that keeps people from the remedy to their slave status. Arthur discusses how he would handle going to court and dealing with the enforcers of "The System". This video also covers the ownership of intellectual property and the curses of "The System" that are the lies of "The System" that we accept when we comply with and support the law of "The System". "The System" gives us a false sense of being on the right path while all the time we are really up against and at the mercy of the force of "The System". The only remedy to "The System" is to do away with "The System"; everything else is just a distraction that keeps us enslaved to "The System". The insights Arthur shares break the spells of "The System" for those who truly want to wake up and be part of a mass exodus from harm. In this video, Arthur is not providing legal advice. He is explaining how he would handle going to court. Anyone is welcome to use these ideas but they may not work if you are still in "The System".
"Introduction To "The Curses Are Being Returned" (article embedded below)
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8183
The revisions of the 2006/2007 article, "The Ten Steps of Kindom": http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5788 is nearly finished and this gives very clear steps as to how to wean our lives out of "The System" and back to living as who we really are. We are still determined to create a tribe and, having Hannah and Andy in our lives is the first step. It is amazing how much difference it makes having just two more people on board, in terms of what we are achieving and the fun we are having. The sooner people come, the sooner we create a world of Do No Harm.
For the past few weeks, Arthur has been appearing on the Skid Row Radio Station: http://www.skidrow.com.au & http://www.radioskidrow.org with Workers Radio Jack Frost: http://www.radioskidrow.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&a...... and other guests on Thursday mornings. He is on from 6.15am - 7.00am, Sydney time, and you can listen to the show here: http://60.242.197.162/stream.
Control The Land
And You Control MAN On The Land
Displace MAN From Land
And You Turn MAN Into Slaves (article embedded below)
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
April 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8237/
Key To Kindom
Co-Creation Of Do No Harm Communities
Causing A Mass Exodus From "The System"
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uYjq5oxz2I. (video is embedded below)
Love For Life is committed to the creation of Do No Harm, Kin Domain communities throughout the world. Kindoms, where we grow our own food and support one another away from the endless rules and obligations we currently struggle under, are the only way to achieve lives of peace, joy and abundance for all and take care of Earth so that Earth flourishes. Love For Life shines a light on the darkness of the world we live in so that we may all recognise that darkness and until there is nowhere left for it to hide. March 2005 - Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
26th October 2011
The Steps To Kindom Is an explanation of the steps we take to get out of "The System" & achieve a world of freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance & do no harm for all of life, without loss of uniqueness or the need for slaves & rulers.
What is Kindom? A group of brothers & sisters of life who feel the bonds of kinship & form a tribe together to support & care for each other, working together to provide the needs for everyone of the tribe.
A Kin Domain refers to the area of land given to each family, usually a hectare is sufficient, where they build their home & grow their food forest. When we eat only raw, living food, we can easily grow all we need &, as our bodies adapt more & more to this way of life, we no longer need refrigerators, electricity, gas, air conditioning, heating, etc. Our footprint on Earth is feather light.
Life/nature is information & the information we put into our bodies determines our lives. When we feed our bodies with lifeless, processed food full of toxins, we end up with a sick, toxic body. If we want a body & brain that are vibrantly healthy, we have to feed them with pure living unprocessed food that is full of the information of life. Eating dead food brings death. Eating live food gives life.
The Dream Of Life Part One:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5O-S6wFgts
and
www.loveforlife.com.au/node/8235
The Dream Of Life Part Two:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOHTJpWcH-4
and
www.loveforlife.com.au/node/8236
The Dream Of Life Part Three:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGwxAk4mAPU
and
www.loveforlife.com.au/node/8240
The revisions of the 2006/2007 article, "The Ten Steps of Kindom": http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5788 is nearly finished and this gives very clear steps as to how to wean our lives out of "The System" and back to living as who we really are. We are still determined to create a tribe and, having Hannah and Andy in our lives is the first step. It is amazing how much difference it makes having just two more people on board, in terms of what we are achieving and the fun we are having. The sooner people come, the sooner we create a world of Do No Harm.
Videos: Narayanan Krishnan
A Companion To The Forgotten
LIFE Is Love
How To Bring Peace Freedom Joy & Abundance For All
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
22nd February 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7925
Video: The Garbage Warrior - EarthShip.com
Michael Reynolds & Sustainable Living
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8128
The Ringing Cedars of Russia Series:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1125
Eco Homes, Villages, Organic and Permaculture Gardening and Life-Sustainability:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3641 & http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1985
Mikhail Petrovich Shchetinin - Kin's School - Lycee School at Tekos:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5173
Raw, Living Food Diet:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5068
Control The Land
And You Control MAN On The Land
Displace MAN From Land
And You Turn MAN Into Slaves
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
April 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8237/
See also: Key To Kindom - Co-Creation Of Do No Harm Communities Causing A Mass Exodus From "The System": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uYjq5oxz2I.
For the past few weeks, Arthur has been appearing on the Skid Row radio program http://www.skidrow.com.au & http://www.radioskidrow.org with Workers Radio Jack Frost http://www.radioskidrow.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&l... and other guests on Thursday mornings. He is on from 6.15am - 7.00am, Sydney time, and you can listen to the show here: http://60.242.197.162/stream.
The Love For Life Work by Arthur and Fiona Cristian:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385
Love For Life is committed to the creation of Do No Harm, Kin Domain communities throughout the world. Kindoms, where we grow our own food and support one another away from the endless rules and obligations we currently struggle under, are the only way to achieve lives of peace, joy and abundance for all and take care of Earth so that Earth flourishes. Love For Life shines a light on the darkness of the world we live in so that we may all recognise that darkness and until there is nowhere left for it to hide. March 2005 - Arthur & Fiona Cristian
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Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
30th November 2011
System Science is Fraud and the Timeline of Chaos is about the way the belief systems of "The System" trap us in "The System" so that we can learn how to recognise how we give our power away and let our lives be ruled by others. This is how we learn to extricate our lives from "The System" so that together we can co-create lives of freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance & do no harm for all of life without loss of uniqueness or having slaves & rulers. We discuss many of the tools of the Freemasonic/Satanic world used to brainwash us and keep us under their spell. Their spells are intellectual property that are demons that possess us, keeping us trapped in "The System". We are taught to create other worlds/realities by putting our energy into self fulfilling prophecies that we have been brainwashed into worshiping. This is how we become slaves. We create the outcomes that we have been taught to believe in, like actors being given their roles in a play. The stage for our lives is set through our brainwashing. Also discussed are the New World Order, the next version of "The System", and how to spot its leaders and tacticians, the flaws in the message they spread and the consequences of falling for their message. As this video has got very long, we have divided it into four parts. These include many pictures and extracts from YouTube videos, as well as text and us talking.
The Dream of Life - System Science is Fraud and the Timeline of Chaos - Part 5A - 57 Minutes 36 Seconds
The Dream Of Life - System Science is Fraud and the Timeline of Chaos - Part 5B - 67 Minutes 25 Seconds
The Dream Of Life - System Science is Fraud and the Timeline of Chaos - Part 5C - 67 Minutes 25 Seconds
The Dream Of Life - Part 5D - Images Of Deception - The Intelligence Agents Amongst Us - 44 Minutes 53 Seconds
17 Minutes 16 Seconds
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
August 2007
Save Our Lives is a song we wrote August 2007. We created a rough demo of this song late last year and used it in the first of "The Dream Of Life" videos. Many have asked for a copy of the full song so here it is.
Save Our Lives
Rough Demo
Written by Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
August 2007
Vocals: Hannah Wood
Harmonies: Hannah Wood & Andrew Pope
Acoustic Guitar: Arthur Cristian
Electric Guitar, Bass, Drum Machine Click Track & ProTools Recording: Stephen aka, Mr Gozaimasu
Arrangement: Arthur Cristian & Hannah Wood
Harmony Arrangement: Hannah Wood
Lyrics and copyright info are provided in the video and in this post: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8252
Save Our Lives - Rough Demo - With Lyrics - Written By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - August 2007 - 5 Minutes 37 Seconds
April 2011
This is an extract taken from a recent Facebook Discussion.
Links to all these Facebook discussions/debates can be found here:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385
Control the land and you control MAN on the land
Displace MAN from land and you turn MAN into slaves
All men, women and children have a natural inheritance to a piece of land (a hectare is sufficient) to care for and co-create life with, land with access to clean water and shelter where they can grow food and raise their families in peace and freedom, doing no harm to the land, to their lives and all of life, and passing on the land and its abundance to their descendants and tribes/villages/communities.
Is there any man, woman or child who will come forward and say we do not have that natural inheritance?
For what are we without land?
Our natural inheritance comes without the threat of being stolen or sold, and is unencumbered by debt or any other man-made restriction BUT comes with full responsibility for nurturing that land and doing no harm. Once we give up our responsibility, we need masters and, once we need masters, we become slaves. We lose our freedom and we lose our uniqueness.
We were never meant to be in the image/likeness of another MAN'S thought but, once we have masters, we are forced to mould the men, women and children we are into the likeness of the thoughts of our masters. When we are displaced from land, we have to rely on our masters for everything, thus acquiescing our freedom, uniqueness and responsibility as we accept the handouts and "The Systems" of our masters. We become the cogs of "The System", drones turning on our brothers and sisters of life, once all MAN on the land, in the name of "The System" which only benefits the tiny few who control "The System". The local councils, etc, have become the Land Barons of "The System", at the beck and call of the Priests who control everything.
Free on the land, able to provide our families with all they need, we are free to be the unique men, women and children we are meant to be, thinking thoughts that are unique to each of us as we contemplate on and interact with nature all around us.
All our problems stem from the lie that some men and women have the right to have power and control over others and, when we accept this lie, we support and maintain it.
No MAN is master of another MAN
All men are equal
Displacing MAN from land is slavery
MAN on the land is where true peace and freedom for all begins
The statutes of Council rules, etc, are all part of the scam to keep MAN from being free on the land. Common Law, Democracy and Constitutional Rights, etc, do nothing to solve this problem as they also support the displacement of MAN from land because most people cannot compete in "The System" of commerce as their natural skills lie elsewhere and they are not good at making money out of other men and women; they don't like it. Those who cannot compete are discriminated against; they have lost their uniqueness and their freedom on the land and they become the garbage collectors, the sewerage workers and all the other cogs through the rank and file of the blue and white collar workers. The dog-eat-dog, survival-of-the-fittest-and-smartest "System" keep the few in control of all the land so that they can control all the men and women residing on that land.
The Church, The Bar, The Courts, The Aristocracy, The Governments and Councils are the means by which the few maintain control of the land and maintain the lie of some having power and control over others. They are not to be found anywhere in nature and anywhere there are tribes still living peacefully in pristine forests. Where they exist is where all the tribes were displaced from the land and where the remnants of the tribes and those sent in to live amongst them, live under the control of the Church and its systems. Operating out of this lie, those who work for "The System" can only do harm. If they want to go with truth, they can only stop working for "The System" and do all they can to get it out of our lives.
The cogs of "The System" can come and do harm to anyone on the land at any time without having to take responsibility for it, although all harm is a curse and curses always return to the makers and holders of the curses.
The key to our freedom is in removing the power & control of the few over the land. Once we do that, they have nothing.
Who are they to think they can tell us we are not free?
All man-made systems require slaves and rulers. It is impossible to avoid this fact, this circumstance. Being forced to live under the rules, regulations, rituals, procedures, conditions and contracts of any man-made system causes a loss of uniqueness to everyone exposed to them. No man, woman or child is answerable to anyone or anything re-presenting a man-made system. We were never meant to give up FULL-responsibility for our lives, which is what we do when we acquiesce to any man-made system, be it cashless or not, gold standard or not, religious, political, legal, social, environmental, spiritual, philosophical, commercial, esoteric, international or domestic or not, and fall under the standing of its authorities, representatives and enforcers. All man-made systems are a scam as will be the coming New World Order system with its cosmic, galactic, Christianised, feel good/feel god, "Oneness" glue remedy to cure the present earth-wide chaos engineered by the tiny few who still want all the power and glory. This cashless "one-world" remedy will be overseen by an earth-wide power structure no different to the Federation overseeing the non-sense cashless world of Star Trek.
Tools used by those behind man-made systems to indoctrinate the masses include all religions, holy books, history books, science, the New Age and all forms of education stemming from any of the many universities presently offering "system career" courses across Earth. Placed on the conveyor belt running through factory planet earth, brainwashed men and woman are being manufactured in sameness moulds to produce individuals (in-divide-u-all-s). We are already unique, not one the same as the next, but all man-made systems trick us through propaganda and manipulation into giving up our uniqueness so we can become the willing slaves and rulers in "The System". All man-made systems (all beliefs, faiths & associated opinions) cause loss of uniqueness. As already mentioned we were never meant to be in the image/likeness of another mans thought.
Broken up into individuals, we no longer feel the bonds between us which is why we think we need an artificial system to co-exist. All Freemasonic/Satanic holy books, and belief systems exist to keep us in an individualised state so that we accept "The Systems" that control us therefore giving our power and life-force-energy away to those hiding behind "The Systems" to rule us with. There is no other reason or purpose for their existence. They are all designed to con us into being ruled by man-made systems, to con us into accepting third party figures, whether saviours or "leaders" so that we give up the responsibility for our lives here and now to them. Even to the point where we no longer think that what is happening on Earth is important because we believe in "life after death" or the ascended masters of the Galactic Federation or some "other world" out there where we will have peace from the pressures of life under "The System". They all come packaged as fairytales with fairytale props and characters for us to give up our responsibility for our lives to here and now so that we can be ruled by those Freemasons/Satanists hiding behind "The System" of those fairytales.
This is why the Freemasonic/Satanic world always operates in the shadows. They are the master puppeteers pulling at the strings of the belief, faith and associated opinion of their marionettes. Just as little Mary is unable to bring forward the Alice in Wonderland characters and settings she is playing to prove they exist neither are those who believe in "The System" fairytales able to bring forward 1st party to 1st party proof/substance of their existence. All they can do is re-present them but they are the only ones present; the characters are not. No matter how intense and for how long they believe in their fairytales and how much they argue for them and protect them, the believers only have their belief, faith and associated opinion. The brainwashing is extensive.
Individualism is as if we go to the ants and say, "Hey ants! We are changing your values and giving you a new program called individualism. You are now free to be in-divide-u-all-s; you can each have your own truths and no one has the right to take them away from you." And so the ants go off to become materialists, Buddhists, Christians, Jews, atheists, republicans, democrats, New Agers, conservatives, punk rockers, journalists, psychologists, politicians, priests, banksters, judges, lawyers, etc, etc. Meanwhile back in the ant world colony, who is taking care of the babies and the elderly and maintaining the nest? Inevitably, the ant-world perishes and all individualised ants go with it! This is what is happening to MAN and MANS Earth. Is this the consequence we all want? We each need to take full-responsibility for our lives so that together the responsibility for taking care of Life is taken care of. Passing the buck to a 3rd party God, man, woman, fiction, law, political party, piece of paper, electronic/digital recording device, etc, stops each of us from taking full-responsibility for life.
We are determined to co-create Kindoms/Do No Harm Communities to be the living-remedy that provides an everlasting peace, freedom, truth, joy, abundance and do no harm for all of life without the need for having slaves and rulers or causing loss of uniqueness.
Note: To continue exploring the information we share and fill in all the other missing pieces please read the articles: "Re-Presenting Is The Pull Of Duality Into False Consciousness" 19th April 2011: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8129, "Introduction To "The Curses Are Being Returned" 11th June 2011: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8183 and explore the many videos, podcasts, articles and recent Facebook/email discussions/debates posted here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au.
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
April 2011
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Love For Life does not support harm doing in any shape or form. However, we are supporters of free speech and post articles, documentaries, etc, that represent a wide cross section of ideas. See the Love For Life extensive research library where over 11,000 individual documents, articles, videos, podcasts and debates/discussions are posted: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/82. We clearly see the evidence of the destruction to MAN and Earth that has been caused by ALL religions over the centuries and are therefore not supporters of religions, cults, sects or any group that demands conformity of thought, speech or action, or has rules, regulations or rituals that must be followed. Religions, nationalities and cultural "identities" are formed as a result of the brainwashing we receive from childhood. They are part of the tactics the Establishment uses to keep us all divided from one another and fighting one another.
All religions promote discrimination and division, leading to hatred and even violence and murder. None of them have yet to produce a remedy to all the suffering, poverty, unhappiness and discrimination in the world. If any religion truly had the remedy to all the suffering on earth, there would no longer be any suffering. What have Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, atheism and the New Age done to end the suffering in the world?
The Love For Life website has information from all sides on many subjects, whether about Islam, Judaism, Christianity, Law, health, psychology, mind control, vaccination, aspartame, MSG, Chemtrails etc. There are over 11,000 individual articles, documentaries, etc on the website and they are so diverse that we are sure that everyone would be able to find something they loved and something they hated, if they took the time to search. If we removed all the articles hated by everyone, there would probably be nothing left! We are not anti anyone but freedom of speech is freedom of speech and no one should condemn the work of another without taking the time to research the subject themselves. Yes, there are articles by those who have a less-than-rosy-viewpoint of Judaism, but there are also articles on the dark side of Tibetan Buddhism (and it is very dark) for those who are interested in the truth: Tibet - Buddhism - Dalai Lama: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6271 Should the authors of these articles be abused and imprisoned for daring to challenge the widely conceived reputation of Buddhism as being the religion of peace and love and that of the Dalai Lama as a saint, or should those interested be allowed to study the work and come to their own conclusions? The same applies to all the articles, documentaries, etc, about Christianity, Islam, Freemasonry, New World Order, etc.
The Love for Life website also shows how the Rule of Law, the Bar, the Government, the Monarchy, the system of commerce, the local, national and multi/trans-national private corporations, all the courses and careers on offer from our universities, all the educators, scientists, academics and experts, the aristocrats and the Establishment bloodlines have also done NOTHING to end the suffering in the world. The website maps the insanity of a world where there is no help for those in need, just as there was no help available for us when we were victims of terrible bank fraud: http://loveforlife.com.au/court_case orchestrated, condoned and protected by an international crime syndicate/terrorist organisation of judges, barristers, registrars, lawyers, politicians, banksters, big business representatives, media moguls and other lackeys who, all together, put up a wall of silence despite our trying many, many avenues. After the family home was stolen and business destroyed we were left close to poverty and destitution caring for 4 young daughters. Three years later not much has changed regardless of all our efforts. Where were all the followers of all the religions to help us? Or do we have to be members of those religions to receive help from others involved in them?
We have been accused of being anti - Jewish because we had posted an excerpt from James von Brun's book: Kill the Best Gentiles! http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6054 in which he blames Jews for the problems of the world. Obviously this is not our view because of what we have stated above. We do not hate anyone, whatever religion they follow. We are always open to talk to any religious leader or politician and meet with any judge, member of the Bar, experts, academics, educators etc to share the remedy we offer that heals all the divisions between MAN and MAN, and MAN and EARTH.
Today, a representative of the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies is threatening to close the website down, because they have decided it is anti - Jewish and that we promote racism. What has the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies done to end the suffering in the world? Can they show that they are concerned with the suffering of ALL men, women and children AND ARE SEEN TO BE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT or are they only concerned with Jewish affairs? If so, they, along with all the other religions that only care for their own, are part of the problem, not part of the solution. The man who rang Arthur today was only concerned with Jewish affairs; he was not interested in our intentions or in anybody else, just as most Christians, Muslims, Sikhs, Catholics, etc, are only interested in their own. While we separate our lives into groups, dividing our lives from others with rules, regulations, rituals, procedures, conditions and contracts, we will never solve our problems.
No matter what we in the Western World Civilisation of Commerce have been promised by our politicians, religious leaders, scientists, educators, philosophers, etc, for the past two hundred years, all we have seen is ever-increasing destruction of men, women and children and Earth. None of the so-called experts and leaders we have been taught to rely on are coming up with a solution and none of them are taking full-responsibility for the fact that they can't handle the problem. All religious books talk about end times full of destruction and suffering but why do we have to follow this program when there is an alternative to hatred, mayhem and death? Why are our leaders following the program of destruction and death rather than exploring the do no harm alternatives? It seems that any mainstream politician, priest or academic are only interested in supporting the RULES OF THE DIVIDE, that maintain the haves and the have nots. For 200+ years, 99% of the world population have been so trained to pass on their responsibility for their lives, others and Earth, that the 1% of the population that make up the leaders of the rest of us are making all the decisions leading to the destruction of all of us and Earth. Let's not forget the education system that brainwashes the 99% of the population that we are free and have equal rights while, in fact, we are feathering the nests of those at the top.
At the root of all our problems is self-centredness, an unwillingness nurtured by the Establishment that keeps us concerned only with our own needs rather than the needs of others around us and Earth. Instead of creating and releasing acts of love for those around us as gifts to benefit them and Earth, we take, take and take, until there is nothing left. The whole point of the Love for Life website is to show people the root of all our problems and to share the remedy. The extensive research library is there to attract browsers and to provide access to information not available through mainstream channels. If the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies can, after careful examination of our work, prove that anything we are saying is wrong, we will be happy to accept their proof. If they cannot, and they are still insistent on closing the website down, they will be showing themselves to be traitors to MAN because they are not interested in pursuing any avenue that can end the suffering in the world.
All religions, corporations and organisations that support and maintain the Western World Civilisation of Commerce are part of the problem because our civilisation is a world of haves and have nots, exclusivity, privilege, racism, violence, hatred, poverty, sickness, discrimination, abuse, starvation, homelessness, corruption, collusion, vindictiveness, social unrest, arrogance, ignorance, fear, war and chaos. While we support civilisation, we support death and destruction.
If we truly want peace and freedom for all, we have to let go of all that which keeps us divided, and come together as MAN, conscious living co-creators of creation/life. The Love For Life website offers a remedy to the problems we all face in the form of DO NO HARM COMMUNITIES (KINDOMS): http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608 - http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3641 For more details see here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6511 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 - We also highly recommend that everyone read the brilliant Russian books called The Ringing Cedars: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1125 - The Love For Life homepage/front-page also provides lots of inspiring remedy based information: http://loveforlife.com.au - If you want to be kept up to date with our work please register to the Love For Life mailing list here: http://loveforlife.com.au/campaign_list We usually send two postings per month. Presently (September 2011) there are over 7000 registrations reaching over 500,000 readers across Earth. The website now (September 2011) receives up to 12 million hits per month. Since December 2006, over 100 million people have visited the Love For Life website.
Conscious Love Always
Arthur and Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
17th June 2009
Being of clear brain, heart and intention, we each declare the following to be true:
• We have no intention of ending our own lives.
• We will not tolerate suppression of truth, ideas, freedom, or our work. We stand for freedom of speech.
• We stand together to support others in the expression of truths and freedom to speak out no matter how radical those ideas may seem.
• Standing for freedom takes courage; together we shall be strong in the face of all odds.
• If it is ever claimed that we have committed suicide, encountered an unfortunate accident, died of sickness/disease, disappeared, been institutionalized, or sold out financially or in any other way to self-interested factions, we declare those claims false and fabricated.
• We testify, assert and affirm without reservation, on behalf of all those who have dedicated their lives to the ending of secrecy and the promotion of freedom of thought, ideas and expression that we shall prevail.
• We Do Not Have Multiple Personality Disorders
Arthur Cristian
Fiona Cristian
Jasmin Lily Cristian
Emma Rose Cristian
Frances Hannah Cristian
Xanthe Jane Cristian
15th December 2006 (Edited/Updated 18th September 2011)
We are turning this Love for Life Quick User Guide http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608, also found on the Love For Life Home Page http://loveforlife.com.au, into a blog (scroll down this page below points 1 to 13 & after the Facebook links) of all the main insights of our work since March 2005, whether through articles, videos, podcasts or discussions/debates. As we do not have the time to compile everything we have written into a book, as many have suggested we do, compiling all our most important work into one area of the website is a way of providing easy access to this work so those interested are able to fully comprehend the big picture. Instead of having to find our different articles, videos, etc, in various parts of the website, it will all be accessible here (scroll down this page below points 1 to 13 & after the Facebook links), from either the Quick User Guide or the Home Page. As amateurs and posted below the Facebook links, we are currently creating and posting a series of videos called "The Dream Of Life" which covers the ground of all the Love For Life insights. We plan to have the videos completed by March 2012. Once this is behind us, our intention is to create a 2 hour or so professionally made documentary covering the body of this work. We have started recording songs, with others, that express the themes of Love For Life. These will be posted on Arthur's YouTube channel, www.youtube.com/user/ArthurLoveForLife, when they are ready. Some have already been used as the soundtrack on the first "Dream of Life" video. Also, everything we, the Cristian family, have gone through, from bank fraud and the theft of the family home to death threats and attempts on Arthur's life, is documented below too. If you, the reader, are prepared to put the effort in, you will comprehend the extent to which we have all been tricked into becoming slaves, giving up our uniqueness and our full-responsibility for life and destroying everything of life to the point where life is in danger of dying out completely. You will also comprehend the remedy to all this chaos; a remedy that requires only love for life and the determination to do what needs to be done. Though our focus is very strongly on the remedy that creates a world of freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance and Do No Harm for all of life without loss of uniqueness or the need for slaves and rulers, we realise that it is vital to comprehend how to get there and what stops us from getting there. This is why there is so much information on the hows and whys of everything going wrong in the world today. We are not into peddling conspiracy theories, we are into routing out all forms of organised crime.
Saturday 26th November 2011
Arthur and Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
Which Unravels The Reasons For The Chaos, Mayhem and Confusion Being Experienced In The World Today, Explains The Need For "Community Immunity" and Responsibility, and Focuses On The Creation Of Kindoms - Do No Harm, Life-Sustainable Communities (As The Remedy That Heals All Mans Woes) - And How We Can Co-Create Them. For Comments, Articles And Discussions, Go Here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 - Also Go Here To See Podcasts And Videos Posted by Arthur & Fiona Cristian: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7309 - The Information Shared Comes From Inspiration, Intuition, Heartfelt-Logic And Information Gathered From Nature And Many Amazing Men And Women Along The Way. It Is Not Found In Any Books Or Channellings, Or Talked About By "Experts". Go Here To Read A Brief Synopsis Of Why We Started Love For Life: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8182
go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1125 and for more on Eco Homes, Villages, Organic and Permaculture Gardening and Life-Sustainability, etc, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3641 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1985 and Mikhail Petrovich Shchetinin - Kin's School - Lycee School at Tekos: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5173
go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5068 - LIFE is information. When we distort LIFE and then eat, drink, absorb, think, feel, hear, see, touch, taste, smell and perform these distortions, the information of LIFE, your LIFE, our LIFE, our children's lives, everyone's LIFE, is distorted.
Which Covers Topics From Health to Chemtrails/Haarp to Brain Control to Archaeology to Astronomy Geocentricity Heliocentricity to Pandemics Bird Flu Swine Flu to Fluoride to Cancer to Free Energy to Global Warming, 9/11, Bali Bombings, Aspartame, MSG, Vaccinations, Aids/HIV, Mercury, New World Order, Satanism, Religions, Cults, Sects, Symbolism, etc, etc, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/82
(Macquarie Bank/Perpetual Limited Bank Fraud Condoned By Judges, Registrars, Barristers, Lawyers, Politicians, Public Servants, Bureaucrats, Big Business and Media Representatives - A Crime Syndicate/Terrorist Organisation) Which Prompted The Creation Of This Love For Life Website December 2006, And The Shooting And Torture Of Supporters Who Assisted Us In Reclaiming The Family Home, Joe Bryant And His Wife, Both In Their Late 70's, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5 And Read Some Of Our Email Correspondence With Lawyer Paul Kean - Macedone Christie Willis Solari Partners - Miranda Sydney May 17th-June 27th 2006: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7300
go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/australian_stories (If you have a story you would like us to put up, we would love to here from you:
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Evidence Revealing How Victims Did Not Break The Peace, Caused No Crime or Harm, There Were No Injured Parties. Documenting Incontrovertible Evidence Demonstrating How The Powers That Be (PTB) And Their Lackeys Will Break All The Laws They Are Supposed To Uphold. They Will Kidnap, Intimidate, Terrorise, Rape, Pillage, Plunder And Lie And Take Responsibility For None Of It. All Part Of Their Tactics Of Using Fear And Trauma To Keep Us In Our Place. Relatives Of Those Under Their Radar Are Also Not Safe From Attack And Intimidation. All Starting From A $25 Fine For Not Voting And A $65 Fine For Not Changing A Dog Registration. We Do Not Have Freedom And Can Only Appear To Have Freedom If We Comply. Regardless How Small The Matter The PTB Throw Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars Away To Enforce Their Will.... Go Here:
Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office - Part One to Part Ten - From 17th October 2008 And Still Continuing:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6319 or
Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office
Part One: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5742 - From 17th October 2008
Part Two: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6135 - From 18th December 2008
Part Three: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6295 - From 9th January 2009
Part Four: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6296 - From 14th January 2009
Part Five: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6375 - The Sick Puppy - From 20th February 2009
Part Six: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6390 - Police Officers, Sheriff’s Officers, Tow Truck Driver and State Debt Recovery Office Blatantly Ignore the Law To Rape, Pillage and Plunder The Private Property Of Fiona Cristian - From 11th March 2009
Part Seven: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6445 - Affidavit Of Truth - Letter To The Queen + Australia: Fascism is Corporatism - From 30th March 2009
Part Eight: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6652 - The Pirates Auction And The Ghost Of VSL386 - From 4th April 2009
Part Nine: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7073 - Arthur Cristian's Letter To Pru Goward MP - From 15th December 2009
Part Ten: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7500 - Should We Be In Fear Of Those Who Claim To Protect Us? "Roman Cult" Canon Law - Ecclesiastical Deed Poll - The Work Of Frank O'Collins - From 13th October 2010
go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/895 - For Common Law, Democracy, Constitution, Trial By Jury, Fee Simple, etc, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/category/main/law-articles-documents
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go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/06/12/05/love-life-legal-disclaimer
go here: Part One: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6616 Part Two: THE STEVE JOHNSON REPORT AND VIDEO: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6665 and Part Three: Latest Update On James Von Brunn: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6673
Conscious Love Always
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
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