SAME SEX MARRIAGE: Till AIDs Do Us Part - Til Death Do Us Part? - By Dr. Paul Cameron - HOMOSEXUALITY

SAME SEX MARRIAGE: Till Death Do Us Part?
By Dr. Paul Cameron

(or is it Till AIDs Do Us Part: Comment By Nick Maine)

SAME SEX MARRIAGE: Till Death Do Us Part?

[Note: The Cristian Family Is Not Anti Love Between Man and Man and Woman and Woman - Instead The Cristian Family Has Great Difficulty Comprehending The Hetero-Sexual/Homo-Sexual Acts That Are Not Acts Of Creation (Acts Of Love) And Show Up To Be Acts Of Harm Doing As In Lust, Desire, Anal Sex, Deep Throat etc. We Don't See What Love Has Got To Do With Ramming It Up Someone's Bum-Hole or Shoving It Down Someone's Throat etc - We have had male & female friends who have same sex partners but they are not into the sex act, instead they truly love (care) for one another as friends and this is the basis of their live-in relationships - So many relationships, both hetero and homosexual have nothing to do with love and all to do with loneliness, unhappiness, deep emotional trauma, anger, hatred, frustration, insecurity, power, control, dissatisfaction etc etc. Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life]

Other pamphlets in the series include:

What Causes Homosexual Desire?

Child Molestation and Homosexuality

Medical Consequences of What Homosexuals Do

Violence and Homosexuality

Born WHAT Way?

The Psychology of Homosexuality

Same Sex marriage: Til Death Do Us Part?

Dr. Cameron is Chairman of the Family Research Institute http://www.familyresearchinst.org/index.html of Colorado Springs, Colorado USA. Click here http://www.familyresearchinst.org/FRI_EduPamphlet7.html#info for more information about this organization. You may contact him at: Family Research Institute, PO Box 62640, Colorado Springs, CO 80962 USA. Phone number: (303) 681-3113.

Society has a vested interest in prohibiting behavior that endangers the health or safety of the community. Because of this, homosexual liaisons have historically been forbidden by law.

Homosexuals contend that their relationships are the equivalent of marriage between a man and woman. They demand that society dignify and approve of their partnerships by giving them legal status as 'marriages.' They further argue that homosexuals should be allowed to become foster parents or adopt children.

The best scientific evidence suggests that putting society's stamp of approval on homosexual partnerships would harm society in general and homosexuals in particular, the very individuals some contend would be helped.

A large body of scientific evidence suggests that homosexual marriage is a defective counterfeit of traditional marriage and that it poses a clear and present danger to the health of the community:

Traditional marriage improves the health of its participants, has the lowest rate of domestic violence, prolongs life, and is the best context in which to raise children.

Homosexual coupling undermines its participants' health, has the highest rate of domestic violence, shortens life, and is a poor environment in which to raise children.

The Facts About Homosexual Marriage

Fact #1: Homosexual marriages are short lived.

When one examines homosexual behavior patterns, it becomes clear that the plea for legal homosexual marriage is less about marriage than the push for legitimacy. Most gays and lesbians are not in monogamous relationships, and in fact often live alone by preference.

* In a study (1) of 2,000 U.S. and European gays in the 1960s, researchers found that "living by oneself is probably the chief residential pattern for male homosexuals. It provides the freedom to pursue whatever style of homosexual life one chooses, whether it be furtive encounters in parks or immersion in the homosexual subculture. In addition, homosexual relationships are fragile enough to make this residential pattern common whether deliberate or not."

* A 1970 study in San Francisco (2) found that approximately 61% of gays and 37% of lesbians were living alone.

* In 1977, the Spada Report (3) noted that only 8% of the gays in its sample claimed to have a monogamous relationship with a live-in lover.

* The same year (4) over 5,000 gays and lesbians were asked: "Do you consider or have you considered yourself 'married' to another [homosexual]?" Only 40% of lesbians and 25% of gays said "yes." The authors noted that with "gay male couples, it is hard to even suggest that there are norms of behavior. [One] might expect to find a clear pattern of 'categories' emerging from the answers to the questions about lovers, boy friends, and relationships. In fact, no such pattern emerged."

* In the early 1980s, a large non-random sample (5) of almost 8,000 heterosexual and homosexual couples responded to advertisements in alternative newspapers. The average number of years together was 9.8 for the married, 1.7, for cohabiting heterosexuals, 3.5 for the gay couples, and 2.2 for the lesbian couples.

Variety Over Monogamy

Although gay activists often argue that legalizing homosexual marriage would help make such relationships more permanent, the reality is that most gays desire variety in their sex partners, not the monogamy of traditional marriage.

* In 1987, only 23% of gays in London (6) reported sexual exclusivity "in the month before interview."

* In 1990, only 12% of gays in Toronto, Canada (7) said that they were in monogamous relationships.

* In 1991, in the midst of the AIDS crisis, Australian gays (8) were monitored to see whether they had changed their sexual habits. There was essentially no change in 5 years: 23% reported a monogamous relationship, 35% a non-monogamous relationship, and 29% only "casual sex." The authors reported that "there were almost as many men moving into monogamy as out of it, and out of casual-only partnerships as into them."

* In 1993, a study (9) of 428 gays in San Francisco found that only 14% reported just a single sexual partner in the previous year. The vast majority had multiple sex partners.

* In 1994, the largest national gay magazine'° reported that only 17% of its sample of 2,500 gays claimed to live together in a monogamous relationship.

Even gays who do have long-term partners do not play by the typical 'rules.' Only 69% of Dutch gays" with a marriage-type 'partner' actually lived together. The average number of "outside partners" per year of 'marriage' was 7.1 and increased from 2.5 in the first year of the relationship to 11 in the 6th year.

Why are homosexual marriages shorter and less committed than traditional marriages?

At any given time, less than a third of gays and approximately half of lesbians are living with a lover. Because the relationships are so short, the average homosexual can anticipate many, many 'divorces.'

At any instant, about 10% of gays live together in monogamous relationships. Their monogamy seldom lasts beyond a year. Perhaps half of lesbians live together in monogamous relationships. These typically dissolve in one to three years.

These same patterns appear in the scientific literature over the last 50 years, both long before and during the AIDS epidemic. This consistency suggests a reality associated with the practice of homosexuality, one unlikely to be affected by changes in marriage laws.
The Danish Experience

In Denmark, a form of homosexual marriage has been legal since 1989. Through 1995, less than 5% of Danish homosexuals had gotten married, and 28% of these marriages had already ended in divorce or death. (12)

The Danish experience provides no evidence that gay 'marriage' is beneficial. Men who married men were three times more apt to be widowers before the age of 55 than men who married women! Similarly, a woman who married a woman was three times more apt to be a widow than a woman who married a man.

Fact #2: Studies show homosexual marriage is hazardous to one's health.

Across the world, numerous researchers have reported that 'committed' or 'coupled' homosexuals are more apt to engage in highly risky and biologically unsanitary sexual practices than are 'single' gays. As a consequence of this activity, they increase their chances of getting AIDS and other sexually transmitted or blood-borne diseases.

* In 1983, near the beginning of the AIDS epidemic, gays in San Francisco (13) who claimed to be in "monogamous relationships" were compared to those who were not. Without exception, those in monogamous relationships more frequently reported that they had engaged in biologically unhealthful activity during the past year. As examples, 4.5% of the monogamous v. 2.2% of the unpartnered had engaged in drinking urine, and 33.3% v. 19.6% claimed to practice oral-anal sex.

* In a sample of London gays (6) in 1987, those infected with HIV were more apt to have regular partners than those not so infected. In 1989, Italian researchers (14) investigated 127 gays attending an AIDS clinic. Twelve percent of those without steady partners v. 28% of those with steady partners were HIV+. The investigators remarked that "to our surprise, male prostitutes did not seem to be at increased risk, whereas homosexuals who reported a steady partner (i.e., the same man for the previous six months) carried the highest relative risk."

* During 1991-92, 677 gays in England (15) were asked about "unprotected anal sex." Those who had 'regular' partners reported sex lives which were "about three times as likely to involve unprotected anal sex than partnerships described as 'casual/one-night stands."' Sex with a regular partner "was far more important than awareness of HIV status in facilitating high-risk behaviour."

* A 1993 British sexual diary study (16) of 385 gays reported that men in "monogamous" relationships practiced more anal intercourse and more anal-oral sex than those without a steady partner. It concluded that "gay men in a Closed relationship... exhibit... the highest risk of HIV transmission."

* In 1992, a sample (17) of 2,593 gays from Tucson, AZ and Portland, OR reinforced the consistent finding that "gay men in primary relationships are significantly more likely than single men to have engaged in unprotected anal intercourse."

* Similarly, a 1993 sample (18) of gays from Barcelona, Spain practiced riskier sex with their regular partners than with casual pick ups.

* Even a 1994 study (19) of over 600 lesbians demonstrated that "the connection between monogamy and unprotected sex,... was very consistent across interviews. Protected sex was generally equated with casual encounters; unprotected sex was generally equated with trusting relationships. Not using latex barriers was seen as a step in the process of relational commitment.

Choosing to have unprotected sex indicated deepening trust and intimacy as the relationship grew."

Why is homosexual marriage a health hazard?

While married people pledge and generally live up to their vows of sexual faithfulness, participants in both gay and lesbian "marriages" offer each other something quite different. They see shared biological intimacy and sexual risk-taking as the hallmark of trust and commitment. Being exposed in this way to the bodily discharges of their partner increases the risk of disease, especially so if that partner was 'married' to someone else before or engaged in sex with others outside the relationship.

The evidence is strong that both gays and lesbians are more apt to take biological risks when having sex with a partner than when having casual sex. The evidence is also strong that gays disproportionately contract more disease, especially AIDS and the various forms of hepatitis, from sex with "partners" than they do from sex with strangers. There is also some evidence (20) that gays with partners are more apt to die of both AIDS and non-AIDS conditions than those without partners.

Like gays, 'married' lesbians are more apt to engage in biological intimacy and risk-taking. However, there is insufficient evidence to conclude whether disease or death rates are higher for partnered or unpartnered lesbians.

Fact #3: Homosexual marriage has the highest rate of domestic violence.

Domestic violence is a public health concern. Among heterosexuals, not only is it an obvious marker of a troubled marriage, but media attention and tax dollars to aid 'battered women' have both grown tremendously in recent years. What is not reported is the empirical evidence suggesting that homosexual couples have higher rates of domestic violence than do heterosexual couples, especially among lesbians.

In 1996, (21) Susan Holt, coordinator of the domestic violence unit of the Los Angeles Gay Lesbian Center, said that "domestic violence is the third largest health problem facing the gay and lesbian community today and trails only behind AIDS and substance abuse... in terms of sheer numbers and lethality."

The average rate of domestic violence in traditional marriage, established by a nationwide federal government survey (22) of 6,779 married couples in 1988, is apparently less than 5% per year. During their most recent year of marriage, 2.0% of husbands and 3.2% of wives said that they were hit, shoved or had things thrown at them. Unmarried, cohabiting heterosexuals report (23) higher rates of violence, a rate of about 20% to 25% per year.

When the same standard is applied to gay and lesbian relationships, the following evidence emerges:

* In 1987, (24) 48% of 43 lesbian, and 39% of 39 gay Georgia couples reported domestic violence.

* In 1988,(25) 70 lesbian and gay students participated in a study of conflict resolution in gay and lesbian relationships. Adjusted upward for reporting by only one partner in the couple (i.e., "only one side of the story"), an estimated 29% of gay and 56% of lesbian couples experienced violence in the past year.

* In 1989, (26) 284 lesbians were interviewed who were involved "in a committed, cohabitating lesbian relationship" during the last 6 months. Adjusted for reporting by just one partner, an estimated 43% of the relationships were violent in the past year.

* In 1990, (27) nearly half of 90 lesbian couples in Los Angeles reported domestic violence yearly. 21% of these women said that they were mothers. Interestingly, of those mothers who had children living with them, 11 lived in "violent" and 11 in "nonviolent" relationships. Thus, unlike traditional marriage where parents will often forego fighting to shield the children from hostility, there was no evidence from this investigation that the presence of youngsters reduced the rate of domestic violence.

Overall, the evidence is fairly compelling that homosexual domestic violence exceeds heterosexual domestic violence. The limited scientific literature suggests that physical domestic violence occurs every year among less than 5% of traditionally married couples, 20% to 25% of cohabiting heterosexuals, and approximately half of lesbian couples. The evidence is less certain for gays, but their rate appears to fall somewhere between that for unmarried, cohabiting heterosexuals and lesbians.

Fact #4: Homosexual domestic violence is a logger problem than gay bashing.

Gay activists and the media are quick to assert that discriminatory attitudes by 'straight' society lead directly to violence against homosexuals (i.e., 'gay bashing'). In fact, evidence suggests that homosexual domestic violence substantially exceeds, in frequency and lethality, any and all forms of 'gay bashing.' That is, the violence that homosexuals do to one another is much more significant than the violence that others do to homosexuals.

In 1995, a homosexual domestic violence consortium conducted a study (28) in six cities Chicago, Columbus, Minneapolis, New York, San Diego, and San Francisco where reports of anti-homosexual harassment or same sex domestic violence were tabulated.

The harassment incidents ranged from name calling (e.g., 'faggot,' 'queer') to actual physical harm or property damage. Homosexual domestic violence, on the other hand, referred only to incidents in which actual physical harm occurred or was seriously threatened (i.e., met the legal standard for domestic violence).

The results? Nationwide, (29) as well as in these cities, around half of anti-homosexual harassment reports in 1995 involved only slurs or insults, thus not rising to the level of actual or threatened physical violence.

In San Francisco, there were 347 calls about same-sex domestic violence and 324 calls about anti-homosexual harassment. In three of the five other cities there were also more calls reporting same-sex domestic violence than anti-homosexual harassment. The same ratio was reported for the study as a whole.

Given that half of the harassment reports did not rise to the level of violence, while domestic violence meant exactly that, if the data gathered by this consortium of homosexuals corresponds to the underlying reality, the physical threat to homosexuals from same-sex domestic violence is more than twice as great as the physical threat they experience from 'the outside.'

Rather than being a 'shelter against the storms of life,' as traditional marriage is sometimes characterized, being homosexually partnered actually increases the physical dangers associated with homosexuality.

Fact #5: Homosexuals make poor parents.

Fewer than 20 empirical studies have been done on homosexual parents. These studies have been small, biased, and generally fail to address many of the traditional concerns regarding homosexual parenting. However, the limited evidence they have generated supports what common sense would expect.

The largest study, (30) and the only one based on a random sample, estimated that less than half of a percent of Americans have had a homosexual parent. Those who did were more likely to:

1. report having had sex with a parent,

2. experience homosexuality as their first sexual encounter,

3. be sexually molested,

4. become homosexual or bisexual, and

5. report dissatisfaction with their childhood.

The various studies, (31) added together, suggest that the children of homosexuals are at least 3 times more apt to become homosexual than children raised by the traditionally married.

Further, there is reasonable evidence, both in the empirical literature and in dozens of court cases dealing with the issue, (32) that children of homosexuals are more apt to be sexually exposed to the homosexual lifestyle and/or molested.

Finally, substantial evidence (31) suggests that children of homosexuals are more apt to doubt their own sexuality, be embarrassed by their homosexual parent(s), and be teased and taunted by their peers.

What Can We Conclude?

Homosexual marriage is a bad idea, While traditional marriage delivers benefits to its participants as well as to society, gay marriage harms everyone it touches especially homosexuals themselves. Not only does it place homosexuals at increased risk for HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases, but it also subjects them to an increased threat of domestic violence and early death.

Homosexual marriage is nothing like traditional marriage. Homosexual unions are not built around lifetime commitments, nor are they good environments to raise children.

Those who support legalizing homosexual marriage include the same compassionate people who championed the right of singles to become parents. We know the results of that campaign: a third of the nation's children do not have a father. We also know that children without fathers much more often do poorly in school, get in trouble with the law, and become dysfunctional parents themselves.

It would be foolish to tamper with something as vital to personal and social health as traditional marriage in order the placate the same troubled souls that pushed for our current cultural mess.
References

1. Weinberg, M.S. Williams, C.J. Male homosexuals: their problems adaptations. NY: Penguin, 1975.

2. Bell, A. P. Weinberg, M.S. Homosexualaies NY:Simon Schusver, 1978.

3. Spada, J. The Spada repon. NY:Sigmet, 1979

4. Jay, K. Young, A. The gay report. NY:Summit, 1979.

5. Blumstein, P. Schwartz, P. American couples NY:Morrow, 1983.

6. Hunt, A. J., et al. Genitourinary Medicine, 1990, 66, 423427.

7. Orr, K., Morrison, K. Doing it in the 90s. Univ. Toronto Laval Universities, 1993.

8. Kippax, S., et al. AIDS, 1993, 7, 257-263.

9. Osmond, D. H., et al. Amer I Public Health, 1994, 84, 1933-1937.

10. Lever, J. Advocate, Issue 661/662, August, 23, 1994, 15-24.

11. Deenen, A. A., et al. Archives Serual Behavior,1994, 23, 421431.

12. Wockner, R. Advocate, Issue 726, February 4, 1997, 26.

13. McKusick, L., et al. Amer I Public Health, 1985, 75, 493-496.

14. Franceschi, S., et al. Lancet, 1989, 1, 42.

15. Dawson, J. M., et al. AIDS, 1994, 8, 837-841.

16. Coxon A.P.M., et al. AIDS, 1993, 7, 877-882.

17. Hoff, C.C., et al. I Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndromes, 1997, 14, 72-78.

18. Wang, J. et al. Soc Sci Med, 1997, 44, 469-77.

19. Stevens, P. E. Soc Sci Med, 1994, 39,1565-78.

20. Cameron, P., Playfair, W. L., Wellum, S. The longevity of homosexuals. Omega, 1994, 29, 249 272.

21. Holt S. Ending the cycle of domestic violence. Gay Lesbian Times, 9126196, p. 39.

22. Sorenson, J, et al.. Amer I Public Health. 1996, 86, 3540.

23. Ellis, D. Violence Victims, 1989, 4, 235-255.

24. Gardner, R. Method of conflict resolution correlates af physical aggression victimization in heterosezual, lesbian, gay male couples. Unpub Doc Dis, U Georgia, 1988.

25. Waterman, C.K, et al. J Sel Research 1989, 26, 118 124.

26. Lockhart, L.L., et al. I Interpersanal Vialence, 1994, 9, 469492.

27. Coleman, V. Violence in lesbian couples: a berween groups comparison. Unpub Doc Dis, CA Sch Prof Psych:LA, 1990.

28. Merrill, G. Press release from National Coalition of Anti-Violence Programs, October 22, 1996 from San Francisco various inteniews in November, 1996 with senior author Memll, Jem Lynn Fields in Chicago, Bea Hanson in New York.

29. Anti-Lesbian/Gay Violence in 1995. Horizons Community Senices. Self published.

30. Cameron, P. Cameron, K. Homosexual parents, Adolescence, 1996, 31, 757-776.

31. Cameron, P. Cameron, K. Did the APA misrepresent the scientific literature to couns in suppon of homosexual custody? I Psychology, 1997, 131, 1-20.

32. Cameron, P. Cameron, K. Homosexual parents: a natural comparison. Psychol Repts, 1997, in press.

This educational pamphlet has been produced by Family Research Institute, Inc., Dr. Paul Cameron, Chairman. A complete report is available for a donation of $25 in the U.S., $40 foreign, postage included. Other pamphlets in the series include:

What Causes Homosexual Desire?: http://www.familyresearchinst.org/FRI_EduPamphlet1.html

Child Molestation and Homosexuality: http://www.familyresearchinst.org/FRI_EduPamphlet2.html

Medical Consequences of What Homosexuals Do: http://www.familyresearchinst.org/FRI_EduPamphlet3.html

Violence and Homosexuality: http://www.familyresearchinst.org/FRI_EduPamphlet4.html

Born WHAT Way?: http://www.familyresearchinst.org/FRI_EduPamphlet5.html

The Psychology of Homosexuality: http://www.familyresearchinst.org/FRI_EduPamphlet6.html

Same Sex marriage: Til Death Do Us Part?: http://www.familyresearchinst.org/FRI_EduPamphlet7.html

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Comments

Same sex marriage.

You say you're not anti gay.
However, the links you have posted are from a website which state its mission is to defend traditional family values. Traditional being heterosexual, with children. 5mins of internet research on Dr Paul Cameron reveals his ties to Christianity and long demonstrated bigotry towards homosexuals.
If you are telling the truth when you say you're not anti-gay then you will investigate further into this matter and consider taking down this highly offensive (anti-gay, religious rhetoric) link.

idiot

i guess as long as there is free speech, every moron out there will embarrass themselves in this fashion.

your pseudo-science was discredited a long time ago buddy.

you're probably one of those disgusting christian types who have polluted the human family for 2,000 years.

you should come out of the closet, its ok. really.

Unlawful Article

I was so warmed and excited to find this website - until I came accross this article. I am from the UK and if this was published over here - the author would be prosecuted.

I feel dishonoured by the corrupt, bias and unfounded view. If we are to look at this from a research perspective - there are simply not enough samples or subjects to present any conclusions that have any credibility.

It is merely (and I include the Cristian's introduction) the usual bigoted obsession with the physical act. It really is very simple -

Love. it is just love. Man-Woman, Man-Man, Woman-Woman - it is irrelevant as long as it is consensual, equal and safe.

Any health implications are down to individual behaviour (you can't dismiss a whole community based on this) and present in all sexual relationships, as are domestic, social and psychological problems. I was born into a 'normal' heterosexual marriage. My mum and dad were both alcoholics, both violent and I never felt safe.

Give me gay dads anyday....

Be truly free and judge no-one. We are freemen/women no better or worse than the next.

I will not be back to this site.

Much love, without condition,

M xx

Paul Cameron is a debunked pseudo-psychologist...

Paul Cameron is a debunked pseudo-psychologist who has been thrown out of the American Psychological Association. Cameron is the laughing stock of modern psychology; he makes his living spreading lies and exploiting hatred against the GLBT community in the United States. His propaganda of deceit and his false so-called "facts" that he dishonestly manufactures for the anti-gay, anti-family, and anti-Christian ersatz "Family Research Institute" is purely for profiteering as well as for promoting hate for political gain. Paul Cameron has, and always will be, held in the lowest regard by the psychological profession for his demagoguery, bigotry, and for his unethical practices.

According to AmericaBlog, "[Cameron] was kicked out of the American Psychological Association, and was publicly rebuked by the Nebraska Psychological Association and the American Sociological Association. And he has been called the leader of a "hate group" by the Southern Poverty Law Center, America's number one civil rights organization for tracking the klan, neo-Nazis and white supremacists."

Cameron's "research" has been debunked numerous times, but appears to present him as a legitimate expert on the issue.

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"Religion is the Crack Cocaine of Humanity" ~ by Bud Evans M.A.

Even in the face of a multitude of attacks which the LGBT community has suffered in the last several years under the dictatorship of der Fuhrer Bush and the RepubliNazis; regardless of these cretins' desperate and cynical machination by making same-sex marriage equality a wedge issue by which to goose their spiteful lynch-mob into a frenzied stampede to the polls on election day; notwithstanding the Democrats cowardly "playing it safe" official national policy of standing for absolutely nothing until the polls say it's ok to do so; despite it all, my bubble of optimism remains unbroken.

The tide of history is rising at our side. It is just a matter of time before we are free. Nothing will prevent it; nothing will deter it. It is far past time that the phrase, "Liberty and Justice for All", means something in the USA. Soon it will, and all of the homophobes can go put keffiyehs on their heads and immigrate to Saudi Arabia if they want the law to impose their religious lunacy on those who do not wish to live their kind of hate-filled lives.

The horrors that are committed in the name of any alleged "god" makes one wonder if there is anything in any religion that is worth bothering with. Organized religions are either private clubs; political caucuses or lynch mobs. Far too many are simply a curse on humanity.

Someone once told me that it isn't religion that does these things, it's the people. To which I responded: Yeah, that's kind of like the simple-minded mantra of the NRA which moronically claims, "Guns don't kill people, people kill people" -- as if no contributing relationship or association exists. Nope, sorry that wont wash anymore.

Furthermore, religions often provide a twisted justification for violence --they always have. This is especially true when you have people in the Protestant Evangelical Cults; in the Catholic Klan, and in the Muslim Mob who constantly belittle, persecute, and attack the hundreds of millions of Gays and Lesbians in this world. Anything that threatens their limited world view, based on their irrational obsession with superstition, must be controlled, altered or destroyed -- according to them.

I ask all people of “faith” to give me one rational reason; just ONE carefully thought-out and intelligent justification for the maltreatment and the limitations on the civil rights of Gay and Lesbian citizens around the globe. But they can't give you one. That is why these hate-filled depots turn to the superstitious mandates of religion in order to justify their evil acts. None of the powerful, of any faith, can hold the moral high-ground -- especially when self-styled "Christian" and militant Muslim leaders encourage and incite violent anti-social knee-jerk reactions in their adherents through their perpetually demeaning rhetoric and their pathological behavior towards Gay and Lesbian human beings.

As I've always said, religion is the last refuge for the scoundrel. It will always be that until people respect the humanity in their fellow man and woman, and not try to force people to be just like them. Nothing is more destructive to one’s sense of individuality and to the human spirit or to one’s pursuit of happiness than imposing one group’s beliefs on another -- either through legislative action or through force of violence.

If the old maxim: "I may not agree with what you say, but I’ll fight to the death for your right so say it", could be amended to include, "I may not agree with the choice of what kind of non-related, adult human being you choose to love in a monogamous relationship, but I’ll defend your right to make that decision for yourself." Then, if only people could mind their own business and not try to take away from others the rights they so easily take for granted for themselves….well, then it would be a safer and a more respectful world for millions more.

There is hardly a mole-hill of good that religion has done compared to the mountain of evil that most Abrahamic religions (extreme Orthodox Judaism, Fundamentalist Protestantism and current Catholic Christianity as well as militant Islam) have directly and indirectly perpetuated by forcing their tenets on others who do not bend a knee willingly to these retrograde expressions of tribalism. Yet some people say that organized religions have performed some good functions. By comparison, yes, some people can legitimately admire Hitler because his socialist policies helped to get the German people out of the Great Depression. But do we forgive him for all of his atrocities because he did some good too? I think not.

Likewise, in light of all the bad that has been done in the "cause" of religion, wouldn't we be better off without any of it? Just like we’re better off without Communism and Nazism. Wouldn't humanity function better and grow more creatively and be more productive in a secular, rational society where the individuality is more encouraged than blind conformity to a herd mentality that make a virtue out of ignorance and superstition?

If you can't be a good person and teach the ethics of right and wrong and proper social behavior to your children without beating some religious dogma into their heads, then you are a bad parent. Reliance on superstition is a poor substitute for reason. Religion most often relies on stifling curiosity about the natural world and about life's great mysteries– and that makes religion very dangerous and extremely detrimental to human advancement.

Many religions have so much in common with communism and fascist regimes which have created similar cult messiahs (Stalin, Mao, Jerry Falwell, Fidel Castro, Pat Robertson, Ronald Reagan, Ayatollah Khomeini, Adolf Hitler, many former Popes, especially the current one, etc). And similar demands are made on mindless conformity for "the greater good" of society. In other words, to quash opposition to their despotic grip on power. Communist, Fascist, Muslims and Christians all burned books when so-called "dangerous thoughts or ideas" were promulgated in them. Moreover, similiar brainless "religion-based" censorship often targets art and even music. It is so obvious that religion is antithetical to human development. It retards rather advances mankind. It is a millstone that we should no longer have to endure.

"Religion is the opiate of the people," Karl Marx used to say. Too bad ol' Karl substituted one form of totalitarianism and self-delusion for another. Although, regarding one thing he was right -- it’s about time most of the planet heads to the Betty Ford clinic and gets detoxed off from organized religions of all persuasions. It would be a far, far better world if they did.

(c) Bud Evans, M.A.

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I do not agree with any person or entity that promotes Hate

I do not agree with any person or entity that promotes Hate. I find it quite sad that Cristian has put this article on her page, I ask her to remove it and follow the theme of the website which is promoting good things.

Re: I do not agree with any person or entity that promotes Hate

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All the best
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Love For Life

Re: I do not agree with any person or entity that promotes Hate

Here is our slant on sexuality and creation.. The propaganda of the system has forced sex down our throats to such a degree that we now live in a world of sexual obsession, fuelled by the media, movies, literature, fashion, etc. We have been taught to believe that if we are not bonking several times a week, we are missing out. Our children are being taught that sex is all important and, as teenagers, are encouraged by the atmosphere of booze, drugs, system and peer pressure to get on with it as soon as possible. The result, of course, is many unhappy boys and girls wondering why they are feeling so empty and used, not to mentioned the unwanted, unplanned for babies. The scale of loneliness, unhappiness, isolation, boredom, directionless, emptiness and suicidal tendencies among young people, not to mention other age groups, is reaching previously unheard of levels. Sex is not the whole problem but a big part of the problem.

We are not anti-gay and would willingly co-create a world of peace, freedom, joy and abundance with anyone who has the same dream regardless of whether they love someone of their sex or the opposite sex.

The power of creation is an incredible tool of LOVE but can be used to do immense harm, which is what is happening in the world today.

We would also be more than happy to publish any material debunking any material in this website.

Fiona & Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

Co-Creation And Our Creation Of LIFE

Another way of looking at consciousness and how the conscious behave is this.... thanks to Anastasia's (The Ringing Cedars Books from Russia) input in this brief expose.

Has anyone ever thought or felt that each time a man orgasms/ejaculates he is creating a spirit? Now if that spirit is not intended for the co-creation of a child, then that spirit remains bodiless and suffers an eternity. Briefly.........

All dreams come with full responsibility. When we dream of a partner and then meet a partner, we are creating the physical/material form of that dream. From our dream of a partner, we have created a partnership with someone we love. This dream comes with full responsibility; if one of the partners stops putting their energy/power of creation (love) into the other, the relationship (the dream) will fade away and die.

Now, imagine that both partners dream of creating a child and are fully conscious of their responsibility for every thought, feeling, word and deed that go into the creation of that child. The dream is now a form of love, a space of love they are creating together for the child they wish to create. Together they think and feel everything in great detail about the child they dream for. Being conscious of the FORM of the child they are creating, they have taken full-responsibility for this dream. They are focused on creating a pure and sincere LIFE-FORM in their image, always focused on the information (consciousness) they are embodying into the LIFE-FORM of the child.

They know that all food and liquid is information (consciousness), so they are raw/living food eaters. They know that to cook/heat/process/manipulate food distorts its original natural form and corrupts all the information (the consciousness) the seed/the plant/the fruit has to offer LIFE. They grow their own food, put organic seeds under their tongues for 9 minutes to activate the purpose of the LIFE of the seeds and plant them. They talk and feel the plant's LIFE. They then eat the fruits of their making, in the image of their making.

They detox their bodies and they think and feel ONLY pure and sincere thoughts and feelings. They focus on staying calm, make sure each morning they wake up thinking & feeling happy joyous thoughts. They spend lots of time in nature contemplating and rejoicing in nature and then, when the moment comes that they both FEEL the call of co-creation, they come together to explode all the information they are both thinking and feeling into the LIFE-FORM of the child that is the physical form of their dream.

The loved child is expanding in it's mother's womb and together mum and dad are contemplating and rejoicing in LIFE everyday. The purity and sincerity of their intent, their pure and sincere feelings and thoughts are maintained at a standard where no corruption/distortion enters into the form of the dream they are co-creating.

The child is now in their arms, they don't vaccinate, and the make sure the child spends as much time in unpolluted/unspoiled nature contemplating and rejoicing in nature without his/her parents telling he/she how to think and feel about every life-form, inanimate or not. The parents have more children, the children grow up contemplating on LIFE, create their dreams that are spaces of love (living forms), find the partners of their dreams and co-create the children of their dreams and all the tribe is contemplating on and rejoicing in LIFE and expanding LIFE (Earth, Sun, MAN).

The dream of LIFE lives.

LIFE goes on.....

This joyous coming together to co-create a child is the ONLY reason for having sex.

Sex is the power of creation and we (MAN) have thrown the responsibility for what we are creating out the door. Every sperm is sacred! - MAN IS CREATION IN THE ACT OF CREATION. The poor, bodiless spirits created when Man ejaculates are part of that dark energy plaguing billions today. A lot of these spirits are disfigured because of the information the man and woman were thinking and feeling at the time of creating them..... loneliness, boredom, lust, insecurity, unhappiness, emptiness, late night on the booze or drugs, etc, etc...

Now imagine all the children created through loneliness, boredom, unhappiness, insecurity, feeling horny, late night drunkenness, rape, etc, etc.... what is the information being embodied into that LIFE-form of a child without an intended dream for its LIFE-form? There is no intention to co-create a pure and sincere living-child in the image of the dream co-created by the co-creators. Imagine the love involved from those who take responsibility for this child (if the child is lucky) and the responsibility of the child when it grows to heal all the damage done.... How many heal all the distortions and how many pass on the aberrations to their children?

LOVE IS A GIFT - WITHOUT THE GIFT OF LIFE THERE IS NO LIFE EMBODIED IN OUR DREAMS- WE ARE NOW DEALING WITH A DEAD CORPSE MANNEQUIN.

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

Sacredness

"Love's greatest gift is its ability to make everything it touches sacred."- Barbara De Angelis

Sacredness. All of EARTH (LIFE) is sacred and nowhere is it not. This is why we must learn how to Do No Harm through feelings, thoughts, words or deeds.

Consciousness is the consciousness of every MAN that ever was and ever will be. All of Earth is Sacred because Earth IS the consciousness of MAN and that consciousness goes where MANS thoughts and feelings are. All of creation is the LIFE of MAN. There is nowhere in creation where MAN isn't.This consciousness is what EARTH is made out of. Earth has been expanding out of this consciousness. Every part of the Earth is the consciousness of MAN. Everything we have ever felt and thought about LIFE has been felt and thought by our ancestors. This is why EVERYTHING of Earth is sacred and should not be harmed. This consciousness of MAN is your consciousness, my consciousness, everyones consciousness and consciousness is without beginning or end and can't be divided to be ruled and can't be split into higher and lower, first or last, rich or poor, tall or short, strong or weak, close or far, 1 & 2, A & B, etc, etc.

It is impossible for the consciousness of MAN to be split, though fantasy can persuade otherwise. We are all the living roots of MAN. MAN is all the Earth and there is nowhere on earth that the consciousness of MAN is not. Earth is everything we think and feel, including everything we see in the night sky.

A tree is of trees as MAN is of MAN and LIFE is who we really are and that LIFE is expanding without beginning or end.

MAN sings the song of LIFE that is their ancestors LIFE, that is their LIFE and is their descendants to come. The song of LIFE sings praise to GOD and rejoices in the living creator who created all of LIFE.

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

The Difference Between Emotions And Feelings.....

Emotions are feelings distorted. Feelings are pure and sincere consciousness (love) uncorrupted. While feelings are the rays of the sun radiating out to benefit LIFE, emotions are linked to SELF.

Emotions are the rays (thoughts/feelings) turning back on SELF. Emotions are not a gift of life, for life.

Feelings are.

It's all in the intent.

Just because many have forgotten love does not mean it is not there!

They will never find love while they act emotionally = me, me, me, i, i, i, mine, mine, mine, own, own, own, etc.

Children are compromised and taught to use their brains like dimmer switches. They are trained (subliminally instructed) to turn down their dimmer switch until life is completely based on SELF - complete jet-black darkness. The dimmer switch is being turned down through all the me, me, me, i, i, i, mine, mine, mine, own, own, own, grey scales of emotion that is distorted feelings and thoughts.

All the feelings radiating out to benefit others are pure and sincere. There is no SELF attached - no conditions, contracts or expectations connected.

Life is a gift but when we try to own information, feelings or LIFE we are no longer being that gift for life.

Instead we are serving SELF ........ my trauma, my fear, my pain, my taxes, my roof over my family's head, my security, my savings, my assets, my insurance, my career, my course, my money, my football team, my fashion, my diet, my appearance, my saviour, my messiah, my redeemer, my lord, my god, my son of god, my prophet, my guru, my ascension, my rapture, my after-life, my destiny, my beliefs, my faiths, my opinions, etc, etc, etc, etc......

All our me, me, me, mine, mine, mine, i, i, i, own, own, own, are compensation for the fear and trauma we are experiencing which is the love for LIFE we have given up.

Instead of the sun radiating love for LIFE outwards, the rays are turned back on SELF, turning the sun into a black-hole void of LIFE (consciousness). The black-sun has no love for LIFE on offer = SELF-CENTEREDNESS = INDIVIDUALISM = NO LOVE FOR LIFE.

Love has no fine line because there ain't no back door. What goes on outside of love has nothing to do with love.

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

"The Law Of Attraction"!!! - what are you using it for?

We have the ability to create but, if we want to create with the truth, then everything we create must be LIFE sustainable; it must be able to live, sustain LIFE and be contemplated on and expanded. Whatever we use and create must not have its LIFE-FORCE removed. If we follow this through to its logical conclusion, it can be seen that this happens only in nature which shows us that it is in contemplating on and co-creating with the LIFE forms of nature that we are able to create consciously for LIFE.

When our DNA merges with the LIFE force of the LIFE forms of nature, the force of LIFE flows and we can expand it. However, when we begin to concentrate on and create with dead things that have the LIFE force removed, we are severing the links between us and the rest of LIFE. The power of LIFE rests in not severing our links with the FORCE of LIFE.

Rather than our power of creation being used to create material goods and wealth for our fictitious SELVES, we should be creating LIFE-forms embodied with the LIFE-FORCE of LIFE, for the benefit of all of LIFE. The measure of our 'success' lies not with our possessions but in whether the information of what we create has LIFE force that will be able to be accessed by our children and our great, great, great, great grandchildren, be contemplated on and expanded. Will it be a gift for LIFE or cause more destruction to LIFE? Our greatest challenge is to use our brains to expand LIFE for LIFE rather than engaging in the worship of the fictitious SELF. The more we focus on dead things that have no LIFE force, the more the man or woman of LIFE that we are is fading away and being taken over by the invisible SELF which has no LIFE force and cannot create gifts to benefit LIFE.

If something we have created isn't living, having no LIFE-FORCE embodied in its form, no one can do anything with it or gain from it, now or in 10,000 years. Accumulating dead-LIFE is not a success and using the 'law of attraction' to create dead-LIFE is not a success. Using the 'law of attraction' to create a more "fulfilling", comfortable life for your invisible SELF is not creating LIFE. The LIFE-FORCE in the twig that falls from the tree continues to create LIFE sustainability as it blends into the earth to create a more nutritious soil. The LIFE-FORCE has not been short-circuited.

The consciousness of our ancestors is our consciousness today and our consciousness is the consciousness of our children, grand children and great grandchildren. This consciousness IS OUR LIFE-FORCE. If we do not create for this consciousness of LIFE, we are severing the link between us and our ancestors and descendants. This severing of the links is all the forms of harm going on today, everything that has no LIFE-FORCE and is not a gift for LIFE. When we are severing our links with LIFE, we are severing our lives because the LIFE-FORCE is who we really are and is our living-body.

All this talk of divine love, law of attraction, etc, etc, is being used to create for the invisible SELF. True divine love is the labour of creating for LIFE and is our gift for LIFE. Divine love is the refusal to support harm doing of any kind. What is happening is that the concept of divine love and "law of attraction" is being used to accumulate material wealth for our invisible SELVES. We need to use divine love to create a world of no harm for the generations to come which means that there is no place for consumerism, materialism and commerce as these cause only harm. Creating dead things that support a dead system is not creating for and supporting LIFE. Imagining that we are creating with divine love while all we are creating is consumer benefits and material standings only for our invisible SELVES, causing destruction to LIFE as we do so, is absurd!

The artificial system of the Powers That Be (PTB) that we live under relies on keeping us distracted from the world of nature and keeping us focused on all the distractions that keep us supporting the PTB system without LIFE-force because, without our support, the PTB artificial system would no longer exist. This is the problem with the New Age, personal development coaching, life coaching, law of attraction coaching, etc; it mostly keeps our focus firmly on the PTB system of wealth accumulation and SELF gratification, ensuring we continue to destroy the living world, that we are, rather than expanding it. This is why we use so little of our brains now - the more we cut off from the force of LIFE, the less of our brains we use and the more we strengthen our connections with LIFE, the more our brains open up again. Look at the brain as a battery; the more we focus on dead things, the more we are depleting the LIFE-force of the battery and the more we focus on LIFE, the more we are recharging our batteries with LIFE force.

The world is as it is because we have not been creating for LIFE sustainably. We have not been using our power of creation to sustain the living-dream of LIFE. Without LIFE-FORCE we are as nothing. ONLY LIFE-FORCE can sustain LIFE. DNA is the force of LIFE, is Consciousness, is the information of the force of LIFE that we are and are part of. We all connect through this force of LIFE. LIFE-FORCE is GOD, the living-creator of LIFE and the MAN who co-creates with LIFE-FORCE without doing harm to the LIFE-FORCE is CHRIST. To bring about a world of divine love, we have to replace everything that has no LIFE force with what is living and does have LIFE force. We can only expand into LIFE (the "universe") using LIFE force. There is no separation between MAN and MAN and Earth and MAN and the rest of LIFE. When we co-create ONLY with LIFE FORCE, we will have heaven on earth and we will be living in the REAL Paradise of our making.

Using the "law of attraction" to create material wealth and a sense of belonging attached to consumerism and the material world is causing the destruction of LIFE and all LIFE forms of LIFE. Only when we create with LIFE force for LIFE, are we nurturing and supporting the living world. The measure of our 'success' lies not with our possessions but in whether the information of what we create has LIFE force that will be able to be accessed by our children and our great, great, great, great grandchildren, be contemplated on and expanded. Will it be a gift for LIFE or cause more destruction to LIFE? Our greatest challenge is to use our brains to expand LIFE for LIFE rather than engaging in the worship of the invisible SELF.

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

Here And Now Is All There Is......

We are creation in the act of co-creation. We are not on a journey heading from somewhere to anywhere. Everywhere and somewhere is HERE AND NOW. The sun only shines here and now, it rains only here and now and MAN can ONLY think and feel here and now. The past and the future needs MAN to exist here and now because without MAN, there is no thought or feeling of the past or future to be felt or thought here and now.

Without MAN there is no LIFE. Who is there to think and feel LIFE if MAN does not exist??? ONLY a MAN can hear to answer this question. Imagine rubbing MAN off the blackboard..... who is there to think and feel life if MAN does not exist????

There is nothing to work through because ALL is creation here and now in the act of co-creation BUT, unfortunately, parents dump so much rubbish on their children after their parents dumped rubbish on them, whose parents dumped rubbish on them, that children spend a lifetime co-creating the rubbish they have become in the image of their parents (and extended family, peers & others) making HERE AND NOW.

It seems that ONLY a few get to use their brains to work through all the garbage and gladly take on the responsibility required to not pass on the garbage to their children. They have learnt that the buck stops with them. This is an act of co-creation here and now and this is all that is going on.

There is no evolution of the soul because it is impossible for the consciousness of MAN here and now to be split.

Time and space do not exist. They are just man-made CON-structs (part of the Satanic "Rules Of The Divide") invented/imagined out-of-thin-air. Time and space cannot be touched, tasted, smelt, seen felt or heard in nature, therefore they cannot be found........ "hello time" ............ "hello space", "please talk to me"???? "Where are you time and space"??? "Where do you sleep, walk, talk, rest, think, feel, poo, wee, contemplate, rejoice, co-create, negotiate, contract, etc, here and now??? Where can I visit your parents and your ancestors???? "Hellooooooooo time and space..... anyone homeeeeeeeeee????? " Nope....... no one there"!!!!!!!!

Please don't take this the wrong way, but too much of the New Age, consciousness, law of attraction and soul stuff floating around the net and in books and other media is ALL BULLSHIT......

In the real world the bodies of parents and all ancestors were buried in Earth and all the information of their conscious lives (their consciousness - every thought and feeling they created) is in the rocks, the soil, the minerals, the creatures, the plants, the trees, the air, etc, and all their descendants are able to visit these sacred sites to commune with the consciousness of their ancestors and expand their consciousness. Consciousness IS the consciousness of every MAN that ever was and ever will be HERE AND NOW. All of Earth is Sacred because Earth IS the consciousness of MAN and that consciousness goes where MANS thoughts and feelings are. All of creation is the LIFE of MAN. There is nowhere in creation where MAN isn't.

This consciousness of MAN is your consciousness, my consciousness, everyone's consciousness and consciousness is without beginning or end and can't be divided to be ruled and can't be split into higher and lower, first or last, rich or poor, tall or short, strong or weak, close or far, 1 & 2, A & B, etc, etc. They are all man-made con-structs just like time and space. NO CONSTRUCTS EXIST. They are all fantasies, the rubbish, and they remain in our brains until we forget to think these distortions of reality.

EARTH IS THE LIVING BODY OF MAN. As MAN contemplated on the information of LIFE, MAN rejoiced and created dreams of MAN (LIFE) &, with other dreamers of LIFE, MAN co-created children of MAN who also contemplated on EARTH (LIFE) and as MAN expanded into larger families, tribes, villages, communities etc so did EARTH & SUN. The consciousness of MAN is expanding and there is always room for everyone (MAN). We are all the living roots of MAN. MAN is all the Earth and there is nowhere on earth that the consciousness of MAN is not. Earth is everything we think and feel, including everything we see in the night sky.

What has happened to us is that our brains have been manipulated to get us to exhaust our energy on things of the fictional world so that we no longer put our energy into and feel our connection with ALL of LIFE (reality). Brothers and sisters of MAN have turned against their brothers and sisters of MAN. A fairytale world was imagined out-of-thin-air and all of LIFE was given a role in the fairytale. We were all taught how to think and feel about every LIFE-form, inanimate or not, and this rubbish is what traps us in the rubbish while we continue to think and feel the rubbish and put our energy/power of creation into the rubbish. Dimensions, planes, levels, souls, individuals (in-divide-u-all-s), self, person, galaxies, universes, solar systems, planets, suns, relativity, quantum mechanics, aliens, UFO's, crop circles, the other side, the after-----life, etc, etc, is this garbage. MAN has created the fairytale and only MAN can close the covers.

We have been trained/instructed to place all the garbage on every life-form so that the garbage blocks out all the information (consciousness) the LIFE-forms are sharing with us (MAN), for free without a fee, no conditions or contracts attached. In a state fallen from consciousness, we live for the garbage instead of remembering who we really are, what we are really part of and our true purpose.

A tree is of trees as MAN is of MAN and LIFE is who we really are and that LIFE is expanding without beginning or end.

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

Were We Created In The Image Of A Slave Or A Free MAN? - A conversation with a Christian

The truth brings us all closer and closer together while lies push us further and further apart; it is ONLY lies that have us be divided and ruled.
Do we (MAN) not have the power to take responsibility for our actions?

Why would God want to create MAN to be less than God? Would you want your children to be weaker, dumber and slower than you and would you want them to be always dependent on you? Do you not rejoice in your children's learning and expanding independence from you? Do you not teach them responsibility? Would you not want them to be unique? Would you prefer them to be moulded into a sameness and to be powerless and directionless?

Why would God want to create MAN in this image? Would God not want God's creation of MAN to be all that God is and to have all God's power of creation within him/her? Would God not want MAN to have the power to expand God's magnificent dream even more so that it became even more magnificent?

If God is all love, why would God put limitations on God's creation of MAN? Love has no limits.

We are talking about freedom now - are we slaves to God or did God give true freedom to MAN, the freedom of free will, the freedom to make choices and live with the consequences of those choices, the freedom to be responsible for our lives and the lives of those around us? Surely waiting around for God or Jesus to come and fix our problems is not taking responsibility for the fact that we created our problems?

Do you not expect your children to clean up the mess they make or do you think it's ok for them to grow up leaving their mess for others to clean up?

Do you want to make your children slaves to you? Does God want us to be slaves to God? Are we on a drip to GOD?

How can there be LIFE without free will? If we are all puppets on a string what is there to live for???

If GOD did not provide MAN with free will, GOD created a fraud when GOD created MAN. Remember.... MAN is created in the image (likeness) of GOD.

After supporting the destruction to this living dream, what will the saved do once they are back in heaven? How will God feel about the fact that they could not be bothered to take responsibility for the perfect world, the Paradise God created as part of the LIFE that MAN is part of? Remember, most didn't really care about Paradise because they believed the after life with GOD was the real life (the real paradise), rather than the LIFE God created for them.

Would you be happy if your children destroyed your house, thinking that there is always another one, so what's the worry? Would you trust them to take care of another on, if they had destroyed the first without remorse?

Every dream comes with full-responsibility. Do you really think the destroyers of this living Paradise, THE SAVED, will be seen by GOD as being accountable and reliable enough to take care of heaven or whatever other worlds/universes GOD creates for them???????

Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/05/13/fighting-keeps-us-fighting-ar...

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

What Is LIFE And Where Does It Come From? - More conversation with a Christian

We are unable create LIFE out of nothing? LIFE comes out of LIFE which is the dream of the living creator of LIFE, who you call God. All the information of the living creator is the LIFE of the creator embodied in the living dream of the living creator. We (MAN) are that LIFE. LIFE has no beginning or end, it is infinite - there has never been a nothing, only LIFE. The interweaving strands of DNA is the consciousness (the information) of LIFE (GOD). The DNA is the living body of GOD. Remember, we are talking about a living GOD, not a dead God or an invisible God. The living DNA is the thoughts and feelings of GOD that IS LIFE that we are.

We are most definitely not in two worlds. LIFE is the ONLY world that exists but we have billions of our brothers and sisters of LIFE believing they are of an invisible world, somewhere out there or in there, with some invisible God, consciousness, dimension, galaxy, etc, that they are going to return to. They think that what happens to this world, this LIFE, that they are experiencing does not matter because the next one (the one that is always invisible) is the important one.

And yet, all around them is the LIFE that they are part of and they think we are crazy for pointing this out! This is it, folks, this is LIFE and what we do here and now determines whether LIFE continues to live or whether LIFE is completely destroyed. There is no after.......LIFE because, if what comes "after" is not LIFE, it can only be death.

Under the present conditions, for those of us who are really waking up, being a team player of LIFE is hard work because it involves facing up to and taking responsibility for the harm we are causing to LIFE and for the harm to LIFE that we support, whether passively or actively. Being a team player of LIFE means coming together, regardless of looks, brains, wealth, possessions, etc, and co-creating together for the benefit of ALL LIFE.

Belief in the invisible allows us to continue being individuals, not fully present to LIFE because we are focusing on the invisible and giving it higher standing than we give LIFE.

Satan can only deceive us using the invisible because otherwise we would be able to perceive the deceit, just as if someone tells us a big tree is small, we can see that it is not and that they are not speaking the truth.

If we want to comprehend LIFE, we must study (contemplate/observe) LIFE, just as if we want to know Julie Williams, we must go to Julie Williams and spend time with her. What is happening in the world today, however, is that we are taught to spend our lives away from LIFE so that we never learn what LIFE has to teach us. Is a building LIFE? Is a book LIFE? Is a house LIFE?

We spend nearly all our lives surrounded by life-less things, relying on our memorisation of the things we are taught as we grow up to form the images we live our lives out of. When we are young and our carers put us on their laps and read us a story, they are starting our journey into the world of dead things. Far better would be for them to allow us to be in LIFE (nature) so that we could learn about LIFE from LIFE.

Very, very few of us use more than 10% of our brains anymore and most of us use far less. We create lives out of the information we have memorised from dead books rather than from LIFE. Very little of the information we create our lives out of can be found in LIFE; where is the Supreme Court in LIFE? Where is the Bible in LIFE? Where are TV and video games in LIFE? Where are right angles, hexagons and algebra in LIFE? Nearly ALL of the images we create our lives out of are not from LIFE, not of the dream of the creator of LIFE and exist only between our ears in the information we have memorised with the tiny part of the brain that is our memory.

This is why we feel so disconnected from the LIFE that we ARE and why we have become individuals who no longer feel their connection with their brothers and sisters of LIFE and are therefore able to cause and support harm being done to them.

The information of LIFE is the information of the living creator and this is the living word of the creator. All the information of the living creator is in the air we breathe, the trees we plant and the animals around us. Where is the living word of the Bible? What is living about those printed words on the page? Can they breathe, think, walk, talk, etc,? Can they give and support LIFE?

Please show me this living word that is found in the Bible and don't tell me it is something I have to "experience" or "believe" in or have "faith" in. I can see the living word of LIFE everywhere I go that has some access to nature. Where can I see the living word of the Bible? Where is it easily accessible for ALL to experience without the need for third parties to explain it and without having to spend years learning to read in order to be able to comprehend the squiggles on the page?

Everything of LIFE is accessible for all. Everything of the dead world has to be taught, memorised and fed with our energy to "exist" without fading away into the oblivion whence it came.

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

The System

After MAN had lived peacefully as part of the natural-system of LIFE that is nature for uncountable lifetime, along came the Powers that Be with their system of commerce to enslave us all. Gradually, gradually they sucked us in, introducing myriad distractions to tempt us away from LIFE. From God, religion, saviours, messiahs, prophets, sons of god, SELF-realisation, Divine Love and "oneness" to sport, fashion, drugs, alcohol, sex, common law, contract law, admiralty law, gold standard, silver standard and cashless fiat standard, democracy, communism, socialism, capitalism, race, culture, environment, our attention was turned away from LIFE to a system of death to LIFE.

From land to land, the Powers that Be brought their "civilisation", torturing and murdering MAN in the billions, traumatising the few they left so they no longer had the strength to stand up for who they really were, what they were really part of and their true purpose.

As each generation has begun to see through the lies, the Powers that Be have adapted and adapted and adapted their DEAD-CORPSE-SYSTEM to keep our attention and energy always focused in the direction they want. Severing our links with our true past, the Powers that Be have, across the ages, rewritten our true history as one of darkness and drudgery so that we believe their lies about the "progress" of "civilisation" and the "enlightenment" of our time.

From being team players in the natural-system of LIFE, we have been programmed to become "individuals" (in-divide-u-all-s), concerned only with our own wants, needs and desires, including our individual "journeys" to enlightenment and salvation sitting by the side of the Lord God or Jesus or the divine source or the Galactic Federation, depending on our belief system. We have been divided up into time, space, rules, regulations, rituals, procedures, conditions and contracts so that we need their system to keep us glued together in some sort of "natural" order.

The Powers that Be are shortly to introduce their latest version of their civilisation of commerce. It will smell and look like roses with the futuristic Venus Project and appearance of a new civilisation but will actually consist of more power and control for the Powers that Be, a cashless economy and more rules, regulations and rituals disguised as spirituality and inter-cosmos enlightenment for us to comply to. In short, another system that requires their "glue". Underneath the shiny cover, all there will be is death to LIFE.

The thing to look for is not what's going to happen but what the system is going to be; is it going to be the system of nature created by the living creator, the only system that allows true freedom, or is it just another version of the fairytale, a system that keeps us enslaved, requiring all our energy to be maintained. No matter how rosy the new system looks, if it needs our energy to be maintained, it is just another version of the fairytale that offers anything but freedom. To the Powers that Be, the system is their Holy Grail; it is the thing that ensures their power, control, the best pickings and, for the true Satanists, a seat at the side of their Lord after the death of their physical body. They don't care what we think, feel, say or do so long as we do not threaten their system and those that do threaten their system through non-compliance, are quickly met with the FORCE of the minders of the system, the Police, the Army, etc.

The "progress" of the Powers that Be is all about death to LIFE and all about keeping us dumbed down, using only a very small percentage of our brains so that we never remember who we really are, what we are really part of and our true purpose. Their true power lies in getting us to focus on their dream of the system so that this what we create.

While we remain as "individuals, separated from the soil, the sky, the trees and all other LIFE forms of LIFE, we will never be free, no matter how much we believe in divine love and that we are tiny aspects of consciousness on a journey from somewhere to somewhere. While we remain as individuals, we don't stand up for our brothers and sisters of LIFE when we see harm being done to them which is why there is war, poverty and suffering, the very things that allow the Powers that Be to maintain their power and control.

We are LIFE and LIFE is all there is. Only when we begin to act as team players of LIFE again, doing no harm to LIFE again, supporting "community immunity", will we have lives of freedom, peace, joy, abundance again.

We have written and talked lots about this brilliant, clever, "craft" and "practice" of the PTB here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 and here http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7309

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

Same sex marriage.

I think what you have done here is side step responsibility for a homophobic agenda. You clearly believe that men shouldn't be having sex (in case they create empty "spirits"), though you skip over female to female intercourse.. There also seems to be a strong sense coming from you that children are for hetero couples and those alone.
Do you deliberately make it so difficult for people to read what you write? your articles are so overly long and convoluted that maintaining concentration is difficult.
I'm done with this site, and with your "organisation". what worries me is that you have managed to suck in 2 friends of mine.

Every English Letter Has A Meaning Only Taught To The Privileged

Every English letter has a meaning not taught to anyone bar those privileged, those selected few invited in and initiated.

Each letter/meaning is an incantation and as you combine letters (sounds) they form spells and is why all children are taught/forced to spell so they will be under the spell (under-the-standing - understanding the meanings) their whole lifetime.

In & outside of court, certain lawyers, barristers, judges, etc, and others, while in communication with each other, will use these letters between them as codes of instruction/determinations, etc.

They often speak "old english" as do some politicians when they talk to the people via the media.

But the codes/meanings/sounds/language go right over the heads of the people.

They are not conscious of what is really going on, what is really being said.

This is the real Orwellian Doublespeak/Triplespeak that occurs.

The English language was called "The New World Language".

You can learn about some of this Freemasonic/Satanic deception in the Love For Life.com.au website.

English roots are not only in Greek, Latin, Hebrew, French, etc, but also in symbolism which very few know anything about.

It is this symbolism used since these nut cases "crafted" the "practise" of Ancient Egyptian Hieroglyphics (which is rooted in mathematics and sacred geometry as all read & write alphabet languages are) that is being used against everyone.

The symbolism is the true Freemasonic/Satanic language everyone is using without realising. These symbols are images and it is these images formed out of sounds that create our lost state where we need all the prosthetics of "The System" to survive in this unnatural chaotic state, you call "socialisation".

It is the symbolism behind the language we use that forms the spells that most are under.

A few years ago, we filed docs in the supreme court before the judges (not prior), that had the judges quickly flee the court.

When you realise what the Judeo-Judaic world is really all about you will see why it is imperative they want all the people brainwashed.

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The Norman invasion & genocide of MAN on land now known as Britain were the Vikings, the Canaanite bloodlines of Is Ra El part of the thirteen "Orders" or Freemasonic sects of Ancient Egypt. The Normans planned & conquered all supposed new lands across Earth murdering over 1 billion MAN on the land. The bloodline families of this "order" is what this girl documented & is the global family behind their New World Order

Video: 12 yr Girl Discovers ALL U.S. Presidents
Except One Related to One British King - 1 Minutes 46 Seconds



The total population of Man from today going back to the Norman Conquest will be somewhere around 1,000 billion, maybe far more than this. We know it's well beyond 800 billion. When you consider how many tribal people were murdered across the Americas, the "British Isles" and across vast parts of Europe, Asia and the Pacific region the total size of our family of MAN makes the bloodline families of these Vikings incredibly tiny.

Are you aware that up to roughly 1780AD 99.99% of the total population of MAN could not read and write any alphabet language? They couldn't, all they had was their village & tribal talk. Even up to 1930AD still more than 90% were literate.

This means that today's supposed 6.7 billion population, bar a tiny few, and going back through all recorded history ever written, all their ancestors had absolutely nothing to do with recording any alphabet language history.

The only ones who could read and write were the owners of the castles, the land lords, barons, aristocrats, royal families, high priest hoods, the law, and all their lackeys and scribes.

You had to be invited in to learn the black-magic "craft" & "practise" of an alphabet language which took the better part of 20 years to master and these studies included mathematics and sacred geometry. These three abominations were required to con-struct all civilisations of commerce = "The System". All civilisations of commerce were created by these bloodlines. No one else could do it.

The serfs, commoners, slaves & goi were forced to learn English, called the "New World Language", from around 1780AD onwards but it took until very recent times before a majority could read and write.

English was "crafted" primarily out of Latin, Hebrew, Greek, French & Egyptian Hieroglyphics (symbolism = imagery). It was crafted by French Judeo-Judaic legals, draftsmen of law, today known as Barristers. This invention started early 1200's and concluded early 1500's.

The letter j (J) did not even exist until the 1500's when it was first used by Francis Bacon alias William Shakespeare with the word Jew. The word Jesus came out of Lesus (lesus) and Iesus (iesus)which came out of Zeus (JeZeus) and Isis. The letters s and z are interchangeable.

Today, everyone is looking through the windows of alphabet language history (including all genealogy) written ONLY by these Satanic/Freemasonic bloodlines - "The Victors Always Write The History" and it was always biased to suit their agendas - "The outcomes of our lives are the the thoughts we think". If they can control everyones history they can manipulate a world today in the image of their making". The past will rule how people live today. "If they can get you to think and feel what they want you to think and get you to put your life energy into these thoughts you will create that world, their world. Slaves willingly create a world in their masters image without realising".

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Control the land and you control MAN on the land.

Displace MAN from land and you turn MAN into slaves.

All men, women and children have a natural inheritance to a piece of land (a hectare is sufficient) to care for and co-create life with, land with access to clean water and shelter where they can grow food and raise their families in peace and freedom, doing no harm to the land, to their lives and all of life, and passing on the land and its abundance to their descendants and tribes/villages/communities.

Is there any man, woman or child who will come forward and say we do not have that natural inheritance? For what are we without land?

Our natural inheritance comes without the threat of being stolen or sold, and is unencumbered by debt or any other man-made restriction BUT comes with full responsibility for nurturing that land and doing no harm. Once we give up our responsibility, we need masters and, once we need masters, we become slaves. We lose our freedom and we lose our uniqueness.

We were never meant to be in the image/likeness of another MAN but, once we have masters, we are forced to mould the men, women and children we are into the likeness of the thoughts of our masters. When we are displaced from land, we have to rely on our masters for everything, thus acquiescing our freedom, uniqueness and responsibility as we accept the handouts and "The Systems" of our masters. We become the cogs of "The System", drones turning on our brothers and sisters of life, once all MAN on the land, in the name of "The System" which only benefits the tiny few who control "The System". The local councils have become the Land Barons of "The System", at the beck and call of the Priests who control everything.

Free on the land, able to provide our families with all they need, we are free to be the unique men, women and children we are meant to be, thinking thoughts that are unique to each of us as we contemplate on and interact with nature all around us.

All our problems stem from the lie that some men and women have the right to have power and control over others and, when we accept this lie, we support and maintain it.

No MAN is master of another MAN.

All men are equal.

Displacing MAN from land is slavery. MAN on the land is where true peace and freedom for all begins.

The statutes of Council rules are all part of the scam to keep MAN from being free on the land. Common Law, Democracy and Constitutional Rights, etc, do nothing to solve this problem as they also support the displacement of MAN from land because most people cannot compete in "The System" of commerce as their skills lie elsewhere and they are not good at making money out of other men and women; they don't like it. Those who cannot compete are discriminated against; they have lost their uniqueness and their freedom on the land and they become the garbage collectors, the sewerage workers and all the other cogs through the rank and file of the blue and white collar workers. The dog-eat-dog, survival-of-the-fittest-and-smartest "System" keep the few in control of all the land so that they can control all the men and women residing on that land.

The Church, The Bar, The Courts, The Aristocracy, The Governments and councils are the means by which the few maintain control of the land and maintain the lie of some having power and control over others. They are not to be found anywhere in nature and anywhere there are tribes still living peacefully in pristine forests. Where they exist is where all the tribes were displaced from the land and where the remnants of the tribes and those sent in to live amongst them, live under the control of the Church and its systems. Operating out of this lie, those who work for "The System" can only do harm. If they want to go with truth, they can only stop working for "The System" and do all they can to get it out of our lives.

The cogs of "The System" can come and do harm to anyone on the land at any time without having to take responsibility for it, although all harm is a curse and curses always return to the makers and holders of the curses.

The key to our freedom is in removing the power & control of the few over the land. Once we do that, they have nothing.

Who are they to think they can tell us we are not free?

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

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Dena says: THAT'S WHY MY ONLY "MASTER" IS JESUS CHRIST. I CAN PUT UP WITH HIM, THESE OTHER NUTS, NO THANK YOU!!!

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We replied:

Hi Dena, Doesn't solve the problem we have just laid out. We, MAN, have to fix this problem. Passing the buck on to the Re-Presentation of a 3rd party fiction (we were never meant to be in the image/likeness of another MANS thought - what happens to our uniqueness?) who comes along and with one whoosh of their magic wand instantly solves all our problems means we are unwilling to take full-responsibility for everyones uniqueness, for all the harm we have caused and supported thus far, for life, for our lives, for the lives of our family, for the lives of our community and for the lives of everyone.

If we don't take full responsibility for freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, uniqueness and do no harm for all of life, then no one will have them either.

The Life I have is the Life given to me by Life. Life exists so that this MAN can have life. This MAN lives so that you may live. If this MAN lives for freedom, peace, truth, joy, abundance, uniqueness and Do No Harm for all of life and if you live for freedom, peace, truth, joy, abundance, uniqueness and Do No Harm for all of life and if we all live for everyone to have freedom, peace, truth, joy, abundance, uniqueness and Do No Harm for all of life then we all live in Paradise. By taking full-responsibility for your freedom, for your peace, for your truth, for your joy, for your abundance, for your uniqueness, etc, and by you taking Full-responsibility for this MAN to have freedom, peace, truth, joy, abundance, uniqueness, etc, and if we all take FULL-responsibility for each other, then we ALL have, freedom, peace, truth, abundance, joy, uniqueness and do no harm to all of life,

AND, no one has been invalidated or discriminated against.

If we don't take full-responsibility and we are waiting for a Jesus or a Galactic Federation or a Prophet or a Maitreya, etc, to come along then we may as well just sit back in front of the television, eating McDonalds, drinking Coca Cola, slugging lots of beer, smoking heaps of joints, while watching Days Of Our Lives, the footy and a current affairs. "It's all ok everyone, no matter what you believe, don't worry, relax, just sit down, get pissed, get stoned, etc, because Jesus is coming along shortly. He is going to make everything alright. He is going to remove all our bad habits and we will all be angels again. We don't have to do anything. Just let the wars, harm and chaos continue!!!!"

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Nikeesh Patel asked: how do we solve these problems?

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Stuart Russell said: Agreed, a family home of their origins should be a natural inheritance then non would never be homeless and the true homeless could inherit the properties of those that died intestate without relatives.

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We replied:

While we move forward co-creating Do No Harm Communities (Kindoms) we also bounce the curses back to the makers (link provided below on how to do it). The more of us who bounce the curses the more powerful the effect will be, the faster we resolve this issue. We must walk-the-talk the way of Life dream putting our life-force-energy into this dream - take the full-responsibility for life into our own hands and not wait around for someone else to do this for us.

All those behind "The System" are truly lost, they are all trapped in "spells", ALL OF THEM, all of the way to the very top of their Satanic/Freemasonic "orders".

We, the living, who remember who we really are, what we are really part of and our true purpose must help the lost be saved from these "spells" or perish into the darkness of their own making, of their own choice. There is no point waiting around for the cancer (the "spell") to stop spreading because it won't, it keeps growing because those lost to the "spell", and there are many of them, are feeding it.

It will be of no benefit for us and our children if this cancer of non-sense engulfs all of us very shortly because most of us will be dead. Very few of us will make it. We know what the remedy is and how to apply it NOW. Millions of us doing it NOW will head off this darkness, cause it to self-destruct. Bouncing back the curses to their makers is a vacuum sucking out the impure and the insincere from life altogether, to be no more.

Arthur Cristian

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Introduction To "The Curses Are Being Returned"
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
11th June 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8183

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@ Stuart

And when we all return to natural raw-living food diets - no more cooking, processing, altering, manipulating, refrigerating, chemicalising & heating nature, and with happy bright thoughts, joyous in the gift of life, giving thanks for all of life giving us life, and being pure and sincere with all our intentions to do no harm to all of life, we will heal ALL diseases & sicknesses known to MAN as well. We will all have returned to Paradise.

Arthur Cristian

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Link: http://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/131145450300195

Arthur, what Is Your Socio-Economic Solution If You Think The...

Arthur, what is your socio-economic solution if the you think the Venus Project is an elite scheme to rob us all of freedom. Please describe how you would propose the way of structuring society, including food and goods production & distribution, resource access, means of exchange, dwelling and townships, education, communications, and transport & infrastructure. I notice that to date religion is notoriously unpragmatic as far as LIFE improvement goes. When compared relative to science, that is. Lets keep in mind that science is also the reason why we can have this conversation. Thank you for offering your logistical solutions to our social challenges....

Re: Reply To Brad About The Venus Project & Remedy

Hi Brad, to gain a very clear insight into how we think and feel and what is the "remedy" that brings an everlasting, peace, freedom, truth, joy, abundance and do no harm to all of life, inanimate or not, without the need for slaves or rulers, and without loss of uniqueness, start reading our articles and Facebook discussions/debates. Please contemplate on all the information we share and go where the heartfelt-inspired logic of truth takes you. If this dream of life resonates with you as it does with us, then nothing will stop many of us from coming together to co-create Do No Harm Communities (Kindoms) with each other. We will post a few links to articles, Facebook discussions/debates, etc, below. Please do get back in touch with us once you are clear about our intentions, our views on Life and the dream, the remedy of Kindom that is the co-creation of Paradise we support wholeheartedly.

All the best
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

The Non-Sense Obstacles
Of The "Sustainability Movement"
How The "Haves" (Rulers)
Still Want The "Have Nots" (Slaves)

A Facebook Discussion With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
5th May 2011 To 2nd June 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8178

This above article is embedded below.

Re-Presenting Is The Pull Of Duality
Into False Consciousness
Unravelling Lies And Liars
And The Remedy To The Lies

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
19th April 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8129

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Facebook Status/Discussions/Sharing

Will post the core of all this information/discussions below Brad

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To have money you must have slaves and rulers, some men and woman are on a higher standing than others - some men and women acting as masters over other men and women, making the money, administering the money, deciding who can and cannot have the money, etc. This is a curse, a lie, a sin.

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http://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/2112267894353

It's impossible to have democracy constitution government capitalism rule-of-law & free-enterprise without having slaves & rulers. This is at the heart of all our problems. People under these systems claiming "The Land Of The Free" are deluded & living a monumental lie; they are slaves or rulers. All Men Are Equal, No MAN Is Master Of Another MAN. Who amongst us wants slaves? Please come forward so we can all see you.

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http://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/2108335956057

It is a battle over our brains and the progress of "The System" is the evolution of the lie that we keep unfolding to keep us in our individualised state and keeps us under the thumb of both the "Good Guys" and the "Bad Guys". The "Good Guys" of "The System" create stories for us to walk into and take on as our own stories. These are the spells they weave to keep us mesmerised and focused on "The System".

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Without MAN life will no longer exist. Where our thoughts go so goes all of Life. We are the co-creators of the dream of Life. We are the life in the dream of Life. Without MAN existing who is there to think & feel the information of Life? Note: no MAN exists to hear & answer the question so again, without MAN existing in the dream of Life who is there to sense to touch taste feel smell hear & sing the song of Life?

It is a battle over our brains and the progress of "The System" is the evolution of the lie that we keep unfolding to keep us in our individualised state and keeps us under the thumb of both the "Good Guys" and the "Bad Guys". The "Good Guys" of "The System" create stories for us to walk into and take on as our own stories. These are the spells they weave to keep us mesmerised and focused on "The System".

These Freemasonic priests, masters of black-magic, are all around you: David Icke, George Green, Michael Tsarion, Jordan Maxwell, etc, are just a few of the many in just one particular field of many fields/endeavours - just one head of the many heads of this evil satanic hydra.

The outcomes of our lives are the thoughts we think.

If they can get you to think and feel what they want you to think and get you to put your Life-Energy into these thoughts you will create that world (their world). Slaves willingly create a world in their masters (of black-magic) image without realising.

Life is in our image.

"WE WILL LEAD EVERY REVOLUTION AGAINST US". Bill Gates, Al Gore, etc, etc, they are every-which-way we turn. Their thoughts are spread across all medias to tempt us, seduce us and enslave us with their magic spells.

It's all about a battle over our brains that has been going on since this non-sense started way back in Ancient Egypt, their Freemasonic/Satanic "Egypt" which the Western World Civilisation Of Commerce is in its image/likeness. We are still in Egypt, we have never left its spell over us.

Those who control the thoughts we think (the images - all thoughts are images) have all the power and control over our lives.

This is what it is all about Peter. Nothing else is going on - all else is a distraction from this fact.

Fantasy, illusion, delusion, emotional-negative-destructive thoughts-feelings-actions being part of the many distractions that keep us from seeing what is really going on - what is really happening to our brains - who is meddling with our brains, etc, etc.

These masters of black-magic need to create chaos (distractions) all around so that they can keep creating their organised/administered "order" to their" engineered "chaos".

If the duped people had any inkling as to what is really going on they would have already risen up and put an end to this Freemasonic/Satanic non-sense/nightmare long ago. All esoterics, occults, sciences, mathematics, geometry, politics, environmental issues, all university courses & careers, all rules of law, statutes or not, all systems of commerce, be they in a civilisation or not, all conspiracies, all man-made disasters, all health issues, etc, are ALL the DISTRACTIONS that stop us from remembering who we really are, what we are really part of and our true purpose for Life.

Do you comprehend Peter?

The Levite priests are mostly seen as everyday people just like you and I, but inside the Freemasonic/Satanic world ("Their 13 Orders") and bar a few at the very top, these warlocks and witches are more powerful than their puppets like the Pope, Queen, President, etc, even though some of them are Levite priests as well.

The Freemasonic/Satanic world is the true power of the shadow world, It controls everything of "The System", their system!

While everyone is duped looking at America or the City Of London or Russia or the Chinese or the Aliens or the Bilderbergers or the Rothschilds or the Club of Rome or the Knights of Malta or the Knights Templers or Knights Hospitallers or the Communists or the Liberals, or the Roman Catholics, or the Church of England, or the Jesuits, or the Jews or the Zionists or the Christians or the Arabs or the Muslims, or the Committee of 300, or the Trilateral Commission or the Council on Foreign Relations, or the British Institute on International Affairs or the Fabians, etc, etc, etc, all the while it is really this Freemasonic/Satanic "Order" whose 13 orders embrace Earth, enslaving all of us, including all of the above, with their magic and spells.

Can you see with eyes wide open?

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The brilliant, clever psychological tactics these Satanists use are very subtle but their effects control the destiny of everyone conned by them! It has been this way since Ancient Egypt.

The "Good Guys" expose all the lies peddled and enforced by the "Bad Guys" of "The System", both the past "bad deeds" and the present "bad deeds" but both the "Good Guys" and the "Bad Guys" come from the same 13 Satanic/Freemasonic Orders as the "Good Guys". Showing up the crimes of "The System" makes the "Good Guys" appear to be sincere and pure in their intent. So the naive and gullible get sucked in to trusting what these "spell makers" say. All they are doing is exposing all the lies and all the harm caused by association to those lies.

What these "Good Guys" are doing is massaging our brains to prepare us for the next version of "The System". If those behind "The System" did not want the "Good Guys" out there, they would silence them very quickly. They are very good at this; there are many sincere men and women who have been exposing truth who have had mysterious accidents, disappearances, etc. So those behind "The System" are allowing the "Good Guys" to have huge exposure; they are giving them their power.

Those behind "The System" need us to experience more and more of the horrors of "The System" so that we will receive the new version of "The System" with open arms. All versions of "The System" are apocalyptic by design - they always self-destruct and those behind "The System" need to be ready with the latest version, set up as the answer to all the problems of the current version of "The System" so that the sheeple happily swallow the pill without realising that the same old, same olds are still in power.

All their versions of "The System" are apocalyptic because there is no love, no intention to be a gift of life, set free for the benefit of all of Life. When we are free as a gift of Love in service to Life we are on the true path. Through clever manipulation, "The Systems" hijack us from being the gift of Love - Life is Love and Love is Life and MAN is the gift of Life/Love - We are the Life/Love in the dream of Life/Love. Satanists do not want us to remember who we really are.

Most people do not use their brains. Most are too lazy, always looking for the easy way out, the quick fix of information that gives them their silver bullet of truth, i.e, the movie "The Matrix", as one example of many. Therefore, they do not see that the Christianised, feel good (feel god), cosmic, galactic, "ONENESS" glue called the New World Order, the next system on the way, is actually just the same Satanic world under another guise. The "truth sayers" of "The System" expose the lies but do not offer any remedy that brings true everlasting peace, freedom, abundance, joy and do no harm to all of Life. Neither will the remedy on offer from the new version of "The System" bring true everlasting peace, freedom, abundance, joy and do no harm to all of Life.

We already have a natural system, that of nature and of living our lives as gifts for LIFE, serving the living dream of LIFE. Their system of commerce, lies, etc, has us give that up by getting us to serve our (their manufactured) belief systems rather than serving LIFE. This is what they don't want us to remember which is why they provide us with so many distractions. By providing us with "The System", they are our God. In nature, there is no system, just co-creation with the living creator of the dream of LIFE. which we all really are.

"The System" keeps us apart by breaking everyone down into in-divide-u-all-s (individualism is a Satanic instrument of deception), each with their "own" truth, path, beliefs, faiths, associated opinions, destiny, etc, etc, all protected by political correctness and other "statute rules". This stops the belief systems from being scrutinised so that the lies can be routed out. We are not allowed to point out flaws in people's belief systems in case we "upset" (wake up) people.

With everyone on their individual paths with their individual "lifestyles" heading from somewhere to somewhere (even from the atheistic big bang to one life death & that's it, its all over), all tiny aspects of the universe at the effect of greater forces than them, i.e, astrology, numerology, astronomy, science, channelling, New Age, religions, secret tablets, papyri, scrolls, etchings, scribbles (old codes decoded, old hieroglyphic symbols/languages decoded, etc), disclosure, and all other esoterics and occults which collectively create the world of individualism we see today (includes all races, cultures, creeds), the only place we are heading is total destruction.

Including those behind "The System".

While our belief systems have us erect barriers between us, we can never come together which is why "The System" focuses so much on "individual belief systems".

The "Good Guys" of "The System" create stories for us to walk into and take on as our own stories. These are the spells they weave to keep us mesmerised and focused on "The System".

It is a battle over our brains and the progress of "The System" is the evolution of the lie that we keep unfolding to keep us in our individualised state and keeps us under the thumb of both the "Good Guys" and the "Bad Guys".

We have written heaps about all the various themes touched on in this comment. Please read and contemplate on the information we have shared, particularly since September 2010 here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 - All the best - Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life

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Charlotte, The answer is in the last post "Continuing from this other post: Hi Russell," - Please go looking for it and when you have found it, please repost it here.

People need to comprehend how they got to where they now are. If they cannot recognise darkness (non-sense/lies/con-structs. etc) in all their forms they will continue putting their Life-Energy into thoughts (images) that will keep them trapped in the matrix - "The System", still traversing the same "system" path with billions as "the lost".

All do not know how they got to where they now are, who they really are, what they are really part of and their true purpose for Life!

Reading Love For Life articles, article by article, each day or week is not a required many hours per day journey absorbed in reading/scanning zillions of letters, words, phrases, paragraphs, chapters, books, encyclopaedias, bibles/holy books, internet reading & watching, news reading & observing, New Age books & videos, channellings, Conspiracy literature & videos, etc, etc, etc, which take up a phenomenal amount of waking life hours, out of each day, week, month and year for all those still compliant to "The System". 20 to 30 minutes per day or per week is all that is required.

Our Love For Life work lives for those who are determined to be free and who live for everyone to be free too. They dream for everyone to live truth, have peace, abundance and joy and are committed to doing no harm to all of Life.

For those still fighting to maintain and protect the "spells" (belief systems) that rule & control them, the Love For Life work is not for them. We intentionally do not write in spells to keep/trap people under our spells.

The Love For Life articles, videos, podcasts, Facebook debates/discussions, etc, cover all the ground: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 - There is no stone left unturned.

We don't offer a quick fix of fast-food truth. Our work exists for those who are not lazy and who are determined to use their brain to contemplate, contemplate, contemplate, contemplate, contemplate on the information we share. We intentionally do not write in spells to keep or trap people under our spells.

Those who use their brains motivated with pure and sincere intentions to Do No Harm to all of Life are the camels whose lives are being thread through the eye of the needle.

We are already unique, not one the same as the next, however "The System" is used as a mould to create individuals out of. - all are following the one in front - all are compromised by "system" thoughts, none have unique thoughts.

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Tom, please read the last two posts again.

Note: Michael Tsarion & co do not provide a remedy that gets you and everyone else out of "The System".

Their mantra of helping you remember who you really are, are always tied to any of the many esoterics & occults of Satanism = "the rules of the divide" = time, space, levels, dimensions, plains, aliens, ufo's, reptilians, other beings, something else out there, etc, etc, they use.

Their information is always tied to us being at the effect of greater forces than us and that we are all on a journey heading from somewhere to somewhere.

They do not inspire you to co-create a mass exodus out of "The System", returning to nature/earth/reality, co-creating Kindoms, Kins Domains, Spaces Of Love, Do No Harm Communities, etc, where we all live to serve each other with our gifts of love, no longer requiring any version of a man-made "system" for us all to get along with each other.

No More commerce/money, cashless or not, no more insurance, rules of law, governments, law enforcement, private corporations,taxes, interest, fees, fines, contracts, tolls, certificates, degrees, ;licenses, registrations, religions, trade, barter, etc, etc.

No more belief, faith or associated opinions are required - no more ownership, either.

Being a gift of Life/Love means taking full-responsibility to be a gift of Love/Life.

When we take full-responsibility for Love For Life, we no longer require a fiction, a shadow, a con-struct of life/love to re-present because we already are.

Our Love/Life for each other and all of Life already is medicare, insurance, money, trade, barter, education, entertainment, truth, health, transport, etc, etc.

Why do we need a dead world to re-present which makes us all slaves when we already have a living world which we all are really part of.

All our articles and recent Facebook, discussions/debates covers this subject in great detail: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385

Also, ask Tsarion or Icke etc, "What Is Your Remedy That Brings An Everlasting Truth, Peace, Freedom,.Abundance, Joy And Do No Harm To All Of Life Without The Need For Slaves Or Rulers And Without Invalidation Of Uniqueness"?

If they can't answer this question clearly and simply (without vaguery) providing you with a clear simple step by step breakdown of how to do it - then walk away from them because they are already doing you harm. These Satanic deceivers are also meant to keep you distracted with their "talk spells" so that you never arrive to the inspiration that has you be determined to be a Man Of Love/Life, living Life as a gift of Life/Love, in service to all of Life.

Regardless how they do it, If they fob you off and don't answer the question then you know they are DECEIVERS or MISLEADERS or are on EGO TRIPS.

We unravelled the remedy between 2006 and 2007 - we called it "The Ten Steps Of Kindom": http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5788 - it came to us in a moment of inspiration while quickly writing an email to friends in the UK - we decided to leave it alone until we felt we had learnt everything there is to know about the Satanic world. Now we are ready to revisit it, to update and complete it using a much simpler way of explaining everything. We will put it to video, and booklets as well. The Ten Steps Of Kindom is a Gift of Life. Here is a recent video with us about this subject: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7866

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Good on you Tom - you nailed it here" We Will Lead Every Revolution Against Us" - We will cast the spells that will have you under our spells.... etc, etc.. And how true this is for all of us Tom "I do keep finding myself wanting some outside force to come and do it all for us but I know in my heart it has to come from me". Well said Mate. And how true this is as well "it's knowing that the dark forces are moving in ever closer that at times i feel helpless and isolated," - this is all part of their Satanic tactics - in-divide-u-all-ism causes a complete breakdown of "Community Immunity" rendering us all easy pickings to be picked off one by one as they choose whenever they choose, without a "Community Immunity" to protect us. We wrote a song some years ago about this very subject, will post it below.

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RED ALERT
© Psychic Reign March 2006

The monster’s reached the edge of town
He’s taken two and it gets me down
But never mind I’ll do my Job

Red lights, green lights, amber too
Stop the cars, tell us when to move
Keep us safe. No red Alert

He’s still at least three streets away
And that still leaves me time to play
So never mind I’ll play the game

It doesn’t matter if you’re rich or poor
Or if you’re big or small
Take your rose-coloured glasses off
This monster’s at your door
It’s too late now; he’s come for you
It’s a red alert

Put down your knife, your fork and spoon
Leave the restaurant, cork the wine,
It’s happening now, a red alert

Leave the gym, stop pumping iron
Your muscle tone won’t help you now
It’s time to act, a red alert

The politicians tell us green for go
But, look around, it isn’t so
It’s crisis point, a red alert

It doesn’t matter if you’re rich or poor
Or if you’re big or small
Take your rose-coloured glasses off
This monster’s at your door
It’s too late now; he’s come for you
It’s a red alert

He’s come to take your freedom away
He’s come to take your freedom today
He’s ruthless, he doesn’t care about the paintwork
He’s ruthless, he won’t be waiting for your answer

No government will help you now
No banks or courts will save you now
It’s too late now; he’s come for you

He’s come to have his dinner today
He’s come to take you all away
He’s ruthless, he eats your children for his breakfast
He’s ruthless, he doesn’t care who’s first or last

The Educators don’t know how
Religious words won’t show you how
It’s too late now; he’s come for you

It’s a Red Alert

Did you have a flutter on the race today?
Did you here what Lawsy had to say?
Did you like that girl?
Who won the game?
The imported marble was the same
It cost a bomb
But never mind

There’s a new show on the T.V soon
That hunky guy, he plays a hoon
The cost of childcare’s gone up some more
At this rate, we’ll soon be poor
What can we do?
We’ve got to eat

Did you see she wore that dress again?
I wonder if botox goes to the brain?
My new Smeg oven works like a dream
Have you had these tarts, caviar and cream?
They’ll make us fat
Oh never mind

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Also, please revisit this: Once Upon A Time - Fiona Cristian - 8 minutes 37 Seconds: http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1388008508321&comments - It says it all.

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Ron Paul is preparing people to accept the NWO but most don't see the psychological tactics being waged against them. Many of them work to close down all exits (thoughts/ideas) from "The System" enclosure presently trapping billions because they think such thoughts and give life to them with their compliance, beliefs and associated opinions. With all options removed and all past options rendered useless, the people will be left on their knees begging for mercy from the hell of the Satanists police state and harm in all its forms belting them left, right and center etc. Collectively, the "Good Guys" and the "Bad Guys" will cancel each other out until, with Chaos running supreme the Satanists/Freemasons will bring forward their NWO remedy, the gates finally opening from the enclosure of man-made Hell, and most people will gleefully jump for it thinking it is the remedy that sets man free from all forms of harm, injustice, suffering, slavery, etc, little suspecting that they have been CONNED. The present police state and all the forms of harm being done on us, raising controversy and the ire of the people, etc, is not the NWO. The real NWO is their remedy to the current chaos, the one that they will bring forward when we are all on our knees. The thoughts being peddled by men and women such as Ron Paul are thoughts that traps most people in their brains and prepare their thinking to accept the NWO remedy when it comes along. RP is a Freemason.

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To have money you must have slaves and rulers, some men and woman are on a higher standing than others - some men and women acting as masters over other men and women, making the money, administering the money, deciding who can and cannot have the money, etc. This is a curse, a lie, a sin.

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Money is the currentcy (current-cy) of spreading and processing curses. Money is not the remedy to slaves problems. All forms of monetary systems, "benevolent" or not, require slaves and rulers Fred.

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The Egyptian high-priests, the Levite Priests, used to direct their curses into animals and then send them over the cliff to die, or they sacrificed them in fires, etc, but, this did not work in the long run so they started sacrificing children, babies, teenagers, virgins, adults, which they still do, but this did not work in the long run as well, and still doesn't, so they created "money" to direct all their curses into the cursed.

Do you know why Popes, Archbishops, Queens, Kings, etc, do not handle / touch money???? This is also how the clergy get past the fact that they are supposed to be poor; they own vast assets but don't touch the money or have money in their pockets.

Do you know why all lands are carved up into Parishes with a church/priest (Church Of England Or Roman Catholic) located in each parish to oversee the sinners in his/her parish?

Change the word sinners to the cursed and you get closer to the truth.

Do you know why the Land Titles office does not involve land - it only deals with the scribbles and marks on paper coveting land?

Do you know why the priests with their manual, the bible, deal only with MAN on Land???? On the surface they do not deal with "The Crown" and all the administration of commerce administered by "The Crown" - that is left for their Freemasonic world to handle - the freemasonic/shadow/satanic world is the link between the priests and "The Crown" and all the arms of "The System" to maintain a distance from their curses.

Do you know that all mort-gage-s are contracts for MAN to process the priests curses?

Money is not energy - physically/materially, money is destroyed mountains, valleys, hillsides, forests, trees, rivers, etc, AND DESTROYED MAN. All this harm is a curse of many curses. The energy you talk about is MANS spiritual suicide in action.

The energy of money is a lie created by its maker, the High Priest.

To have money you must have slaves and rulers, some men and woman are on a higher standing than others - some men and women acting as masters over other men and women, making the money, administering the money, deciding who can and cannot have the money, etc. This is a curse, a lie, a sin.

All who use money in all its forms ARE CURSED

They are processing CURSES.

The greatest lie of "The System" is that some men and women have the right to be placed/place themselves on a higher standing than others. It started when one man decided he wanted to be God over other men and women and to have higher standing than others. This lie/curse could only bounce back to him so he had to come up with ways to deflect the curse. Thus the birth of "The System" and the "progress of civilisation" of "The System" is just the progress of the deflection of the High Priests curse and all who have created curses ever since! All the technology, all the sciences, all of the space age, etc, and including all occults, esoterics, all university courses and careers, etc, is the curse spreading to destroy the dream of LIFE, to destroy MAN - nothing else is going on. All we see in "The System" is the SPIRITUAL SUICIDE OF MAN.

Can you comprehend what happened to Anastasia when she realised her relatives were the ones responsible for creating the curse/curses and went about making things whole so that the curse will not spread on to the lands of her ancestors and on to her glade. She started processing the curses - she took on her relatives to stop them. She started inspiring dachniks on their dachas - This is also why I have directed and continue to direct all the curses back to the High Priest and to the other idiots, her relatives, still living amongst us - This also means that Anastasia is burdened by my actions as well. She is my living sister in those "other lives" and her family, including her, are being forced to come out into the open to help us put an end to this non-sense once and for all.

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Introduction To "The Curses Are Being Returned"
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
11th June 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8183

Dealing With "Spells" And Their "Curses"
How To Handle Claims On Offer
From Those Of "The System"
Direct The Curses Back Onto The Makers
The Red Mass

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
15th February 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7900

Ruled By Numbers - The Anti Christ (666)
Awakening To Paradise - Part Seven

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
28th January 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7831

The Creators Standing
How To Handle The Courts of "The System"

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
14th January 2011
Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7777

The Manufactured World Of The Founding Father
The Grand Architect

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
23rd October 2010
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7514

Awakening To Paradise - Part One To Part Seven
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
16th to 22nd January 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7805

The Song Of Life
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
Part Two - 3rd November 2010: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/09/26/free-land-unownedunclaimed-et...
Part Three - 10th November 2010: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/09/26/free-land-unownedunclaimed-et...
Part Four - 19th November 2010: How To Create A Slave: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/09/26/free-land-unownedunclaimed-et...
Part Five - 21st November 2010: Returning Drones To LIFE: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/09/26/free-land-unownedunclaimed-et...
Part One - 31st October 2010: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/09/26/free-land-unownedunclaimed-et...

Facebook Discussion: Turning Away From "The System"
Exposing The Scam Of Re-Presenting

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
25th January to 3rd February 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7939

Darwin Was An Illuminati Shill
Between 9th and 20th March 2011
http://www.facebook.com/#!/permalink.php?story_fbid=103145519768731&id=100000088210319

LIFE Is Who We Really Are But Most Prefer A Carbon-Copy
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
Between 19th and 25th March 2011
http://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/1893416383202
and
http://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/212116118804361

Are Your Eyes Open?
Can You Spot The Scams?

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
23rd February 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7930

Re-Presenting Is The Pull Of Duality
Into False Consciousness
Unravelling Lies And Liars
And The Remedy To The Lies

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
19th April 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8129

We Are The Life Of The Dream Of Life
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
6th September 2010
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7417

The Meaning Of The Crucifix
A Facebook Discussion
With Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
24th February 2011
http://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/192461317442235

Narayanan Krishnan
A Companion To The Forgotten
LIFE Is Love
How To Bring Peace Freedom Joy & Abundance For All

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
22nd February 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7900

The Gift Of LIFE
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
9th January 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7760

Alien Invasion?
Or Just Another CON?

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd February 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7851

The Ascension Of
The New Age Drones

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
4th February 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7856

Who Are We, What Are We Part Of
And What Is Our True Purpose

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
Written During 2006/2007
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7834

Facebook Discussion: Turning Away From "The System"
Unravelling The Lies

25th January to 2nd February 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/content/11/01/30/who-are-we-what-are-we-part-a...

Explore more articles and Facebook discussions/debates, videos and podcasts here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385

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It's impossible to have democracy constitution government capitalism rule-of-law & free-enterprise without having slaves & rulers. This is at the heart of all our problems. People under these systems claiming "The Land Of The Free" are deluded & living a monumental lie; they are slaves or rulers. All Men Are Equal, No MAN Is Master Of Another MAN. Who amongst us wants slaves? Please come forward so we can all see you.

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Extracts (bits & pieces chopped from here and there) from a new article we are releasing shortly. "No Man Is Master Of Another Man - The Lie That Is Common Law, Trial By Jury And Democracy"

Displacement Is Slavery

There are very few men and women whose families and their ancestors haven't been displaced from land at some point and we are still being displaced by multiculturalism, citizenships, passports, nationality, colour, creed, race, fraud, democracy, constitution, etc. If we try to divide Earth up and send everyone "back to where they came from", we would have to build colonies on Mars to house the vast majority of the population because, even in their "countries of origin", there is no land available for them. How many years do those of European descent have to go back to find where and when their families were last on the land? How can they reclaim their land? Where do the people now living on that land go? What about the millions who have lost the homes they worked and saved for for years, only to have them stolen by the banksters and the effects of money? Where do they go?

All across Earth there are people living on land that others have been displaced from that others were previously displaced from that others were displaced from before that........ and on and on and on. We cannot go backwards. Greed and selfishness means that a few "own" all the land and they have the force of "The System" on their side if other men and women try to establish the natural inheritance that is their true freedom.

If we drive into the country or go up in an aeroplane, we see hectares and hectares of land given over to agriculture and animal husbandry. The trees have been chopped down and the soil ruined. This damage can all be repaired and we can return devastated land to being fertile, productive land that can feed and provide shelter for many of the displaced.

Rather than sharing the land between everybody, people in positions of power are subtly suggesting eugenics, "natural" culling, as a way of gaining even further power and control. Already they are culling us with vaccinations, introduced disease epidemics, HAARP engineered weather extremes, nuclear disasters (why are so many nuclear power stations built on fault lines?), prison camps and wars. Only psychopaths create war and chaos and consider "natural" selection, including religious selection, as a way of solving population issues and control problems. A world created in this image can only be one of haves and have nots, of masters and slaves, of diseased and dying.

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The Common Law Jungle

Common Law, purported by many to be the key to our freedom, can never give us what we seek because it is tied to constitution, democracy, free enterprise, capitalism and economics, all of which are the cause of displacement of men and women from land. In a dog-eat-dog, survival of the fittest system, there are always those who thrive and those who succumb, not because they are stupid but because their skills do not lie in making money out of others. They end up enslaved to rent, food bills, power bills and water bills, working most of their waking hours to meet these demands while even the "haves" are enslaved to the demands of their money and "their" land as they have to pay the rates, the taxes and the bills. If they do really well, they make enough money to service all these obligations without worry but they still have to keep making money if they are to maintain their wealth. Common Law protects the inequality of haves and have nots, of rich and poor.

All systems, whether monarchies, dictatorships, republics or any other form of system, displace MAN from land and nothing of any system solves the problem of displacement from land. Until we solve this problem, we will never have freedom. We all know that all men, women and children are equal but we support and fight for systems that give some men and women standing over others. How can any system that supports this lie give us truth, peace and freedom? How can any of the laws, religions, processes, economic systems, etc, that are all based on inequality, provide freedom for all? Putting our energy into anything that is not providing men and women with their natural inheritance is a waste of time. Land is freedom. Displacement from land is slavery.

Common Law is an impostor of natural law. Natural law is based on love whereas Common Law is based on selfishness. Common Law is based on some having higher authority than others, on the Christian hierarchy of God the almighty, the powerful, the frightening, his Son and his ranks of angels. Belief in hierarchies sets us up to accept the hierarchies forced upon us in "The System". So we go to the judge and demand trial by jury, common law and constitutional law. We demand that he follow the Magna Carta but, all the while we are doing so, we are accepting his authority, accepting his higher standing and the higher standing of "The System" and confirming that we are slaves.

Who is your master? If you know that all men and women are equal, why do you go to men and women to ask for or demand freedom? We are so in the habit of having masters that we have forgotten what it is to be free.

The Great Man of long ago, known now as Jesus, son of God, didn't just destroy the temples and protest about usury; he stood up against everything of "The System". Realising that his influence was too strong to be ignored, those behind "The System" has to rewrite history, to turn him from being an ordinary man with the courage to stand up against slavery into a mystical Son of God with powers we, as unconscious men and women, could never match.

Common Law is very different from men and women in communities taking responsibility when things go wrong and coming together to workout solutions based on the uniqueness of those involved and the situation. Common Law is a continuation of the lie that one man has higher standing over another that is the lie of the whole system and the lie that we re-present through our engagement in "The System". This is the lie, the curse that those behind "The System" want to continue at all costs.

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Control Of Land Means Control Of MAN

Everything of "The System" is about keeping MAN displaced from the land and under the power and control of the tiny few who control "The System". All the invasions of lands and the dissemination of all the tribes is about having power and control over land and, therefore, MAN. The United Nations, governments and the New World Order is all about having power and control over land and, therefore, MAN. All religions, New Age channellings and cosmic/galactic phenomena are about keeping MAN off the land and distracted from focusing on MAN's natural inheritance. No matter how much we adapt and change "The System", it always comes back to some being the masters of others, the great lie that keeps MAN off the land.

The vaccinations, TV, the education system, poisons and chemicals, pollution, dead food, drugs, alcohol and entertainment are designed to keep us dumbed down and distracted from the fact that we have been conned out of our natural inheritance and that, while we are displaced from land, we will always be controlled. Even those who think they "own" land have only a piece of paper saying they are tenants - tenants to whom? - and "their" land is still tied to "The System" and comes with all sorts of system obligations. This is no different to the feudal systems where the land barons demanded payment and produce in return for allowing the serfs to live on "their" land.

Fighting for Fee Simple in a bid to "keep" land is all part of the greed and selfishness of "The System". It is all about me, me, me and nothing about others who have already lost everything in "The System". While we are greedy and want more land than we need, there will always be some without land. Should they all be exterminated so that one man can keep his hundreds and thousands of acres?

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Without MAN life will no longer exist. Where our thoughts go so goes all of Life. We are the co-creators of the dream of Life. We are the life in the dream of Life. Without MAN existing who is there to think & feel the information of Life? Note: no MAN exists to hear & answer the question so again, without MAN existing in the dream of Life who is there to sense to touch taste feel smell hear & sing the song of Life?

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Earth is androgynous just as nature is androgynous just as we are all androgynous, just as living-creator is androgynous.

Without us, MAN, earth-life-creation as we know it will no longer exist. Where our thoughts go so goes all of Life. We are the co-creators of the dream of Life - We are the life in the dream of Life.

Without MAN existing, who is there to think and feel the information of Life, to sing the song of Life? Note: no MAN exists to hear the question to be able to answer the question! So I ask again, without MAN existing in the dream of Life who is there to sense, to touch, taste, feel, smell, hear and sing the song of Life?

Life is in our image. All dreams come with full-responsibility - Life is our responsibility so when we pass the buck on to something else other than MAN, us, we start destroying the dream of Life. Once we start forgetting who we really are, what we are really part of and our true purpose, we start committing spiritual suicide.

Everything you see including all celestial bodies is your/our living body of Life. We are Earth and Earth is us, our living body, which includes all that we SENSE. We are the birds, the trees, the creatures, the air, the sunlight, the flowers, the rivers, the mountains, etc.

All thoughts and feelings of the past and the future needs MAN to exist here and now to think and feel them. Without us existing here and now all information of the past and the future cannot be thought or felt.

All thoughts and feelings are sensed here and now. The sun only shines here and now, we can only breathe here and now, we walk here and now and all of Life-co-creation occurs only here and now, where we, MAN, have always been.

The consciousness of all of MAN that ever was and ever will be is our consciousness here and now, your consciousness and my consciousness here and now.

MAN is sacred - Earth is sacred - All of Life is sacred.

We must not forget who we are.

Our articles and Facebook discussions/debates go into these themes in great detail: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385

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Agreed, which is why Life comes with full responsibility, unfortunately most have forsaken that responsibility. By forgetting who we really are, are part of and our true purpose we drift away from SENSE, from REALITY, from LIFE. We get seduced by information that is NON SENSE, not of LIFE and this leads us into fantasy, illusion and delusion, living unconscious-lives that are doing harm to LIFE. As we are LIFE, this means doing harm to us and, as you say, committing suicide! Harm done to one is harm done to all. The Satanic NWO is an instrument designed for MAN to commit spiritual suicide. There are no winners, instead we all are losers.

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Eating a Raw-Living food diet, nothing cooked/processed/altered/manipulated etc, no eating dead animal/flesh and blood creatures, warm or cold blooded, no dairy or wheat or deadly whites, etc, all grains sprouted and eaten raw, all organic food preferably grown by them and picked & eaten fresh, and with creating pure and sincere thoughts and feelings with all these "growing food actions", they will heal and remove all the distortions that are demons (distortions of Life) that possess them. They will not require "meds" or any other artificial, unnatural drugs that are without Life-force-energy. There is so much to this topic but the main point is this: Life is information and when we distort this information which we do when we heat, cook, process, manipulate, etc, nature, and we eat, drink, breathe, touch, taste, feel and smell these distortions of Life, we, our Life become distorted too. Our Life information is in the image of our making, in the image of the Life information that becomes us. All diseases existing across Earth, mental or not, are MAN-MADE, they are not natural.

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Also, all of nature lives to maintain and expand the perfection of this dream of Life. Any Life-form wavers from perfection another Life-form comes to transmute that imperfection to maintain wholeness and purity. Why? So that the dream of Life does not fade away and die through decay/distortions/impurity. We were never meant to interfere with Nature which our ancestors and us have done in a 1001 ways. We were raw-living food eaters, as our bodies sensed the need for whatever nourishment it requires to maintain wholeness, we just picked and eat directly from nature there and then. We were never meant to create agriculture or animal husbandry running flocks, etc or artificial "systems" we now call kitchens, with refrigeration, etc. Nature is Paradise and if we did not interfere we would still be living in Paradise here and now. All of nature are MANS servants/partners in co-creating Life, team-players of Life, and through SENSE, we can communicate with all SENSORY life-forms of Life, inanimate or not, and through pure and sincere thoughts and feelings, of SENSE, all Life-forms will do what we ask of them. Unfortunately, we have fallen so far into non-sense that creatures will kill us and even eat us because they sense the distortions of our non-sense (includes all negative-destructive emotions) and the signals of our non-sense, the distortions, instinctively instruct the creatures to transmute the distortions that has become us, to make things whole. Bar training creatures to kill, this is the only reason why creatures like white pointer sharks, crocodiles, etc, will kill us.

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Hi Ram, your comment is in reference to? If it is to this "There is no life without thought" or "Without MAN life will no longer exist. Where our thoughts go so goes all of Life. We are the co-creators of the dream of Life. We are the life in the dream of Life. Without MAN existing who is there to think & feel the information of Life? Note: no MAN exists to hear & answer the question so again, without MAN existing in the dream of Life who is there to sense to touch taste feel smell hear & sing the song of Life?"

You are MAN and it was/is MAN who answered the question!!!!! What if no MAN existed to both hear the question and answer the question? Without MANS thought there is no LIFE. All thoughts are thought by MAN. No matter what argument is raised it is MAN raising the argument, it is MAN thinking those thoughts that make up the argument. Without MAN in the dream of Life, Life and everything of Life no longer exists. The point in all of this, is MAN, us, IS, Living-Creator, co-creating the dream of Life. The consciousness (Life) of Living-Creator is embodied in MAN and we are all gifted with the gift of Life and the full-responsibility that comes with this because we have the power to give Life-Force-Energy to any thought we think. The challenge is to create thoughts that are gifts for Life, set free for the benefit of the whole dream of Life, because then, these thoughts are Life-sustainable, are sustained by the power of Love we gave them. Presently, all other thoughts we think today make us slaves to them, they do not set us free. Only thoughts intended and charged with the power of the gift of Life set us free because they are free. It is the intention that gives them life. The articles & debates explain all this in great detail.

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Hi Arthur! Thanks for the updates of posts and links. I read over the conversation ''There Is NO SUCH PLACE AS HELL, HELL IS HERE AND NOW, HELL Is Every Thought And Feeling Not Embodied With LOVE' And after reading this and after our conversation also it has become so much clearer to me what you were talking about. It's so simple, and easy. LOVE IS, unconditional. And Love is Life and Life is Love. And therefore Man is Love as Man is Life. Life is Love, Happiness, Joy, Equality, Freedom, Forgiveness..Without consequence. And to see God as the Creator is perfect, as long as Man knows that he IS GOD. To BeLIEve in someone that does not exist, that Man cannot see, feel, touch or taste or hear is to shift the responsibility of Creation somewhere, to which and where (Creation) does not and cannot exist. To act, feel or think anything that is not of Love is to deny life itself, as Love is Living, breathing, endless beauty...

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Hi Hannah, if we have comprehended what you are saying correctly, the only change we would make is that we are the Co-Creators of the dream of Life and collectively we are in esSENCE the Life of Living-Creator creating the dream of Life. We are not "GOD" - we are all unique aspects of Living-Creator - we are the children of Living-Creator - we are in the likeness, in the image of Living-Creator, and everything Living-Creator can do, we can do as well, and just as loving unconditional parents wish/dream for their children to do better than them throughout Life so we, MAN, can expand on the dream of Life far beyond what Living-Creator created.

It is only the re-presenting of Non-Sense that is man-made con-structs such as all beliefs, faiths and associated opinions, that hold most people back from taking Full-Responsibility for co-creating the dream of Life, as team-players. They have fallen into a lie that has them pass the buck on to a 3rd-party duality-god allowing the "owners" of this "intellectual property" (GOD), to act as re-presentatives/re-presenters/impostors of a fictitious God, permitting/allowing them to place their lives, their standings, on to a higher standing than other men, women and children, to rule them with their righteousness, arrogance and FORCE, etc....

Please read this article and contemplate on the information we share:

Re-Presenting Is The Pull Of Duality
Into False Consciousness
Unravelling Lies And Liars
And The Remedy To The Lies

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
19th April 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8129

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Wow...After much contemplation and reading i feel your explanation to be more true than the initial wording i used, mainly for my use of the word 'God'..It has also furthered my realisation into the twists of language and words as i have known them to be to them now with more clarity.xx Hannah

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With food for thought: Both Andrew and i don't feel it right to kill animals for food! (or at all!!) and we have been discussing why animals would kill each other for food? We have thought, (MAN) not taking responsibility for life has caused in-equality in the environment and therefore caused dis-ease of their creation making them bound to the fate of those who created the curse/s and while MAN is re-presenting them this will always be. We are presently still discussing this, What are your thoughts?

Han and Andy

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It's just about becoming conscious of "duality" in all its forms because "duality" is the cause of our fallen "state" into "non-sense" where all forms of harm-doing, including fantasy, illusion and delusion, occur.

We were all meant to take FULL-RESPONSIBILITY for Life but through "duality" we create fictitious 3rd parties to pass on our our full-responsibility too, thus diluting our full-responsibility becoming the limited liability (passing-the-buck) that we all live under today.

Something other than us now has all the power and all the responsibility so we can rest easy as none of the harm doing is our fault if we are not in charge. Phew!

This also enables us to feel that we are all tiny aspects of the universe at the effects of greater forces than us. Again, phew! And that we are all on a journey heading from somewhere to somewhere. Again, phew! We are all heading to heaven or ascension so nothing to worry about here and now OR Jesus or the Galactic Federation is coming and with one whoooooosh of their magic wand, they will make right everything we have all made wrong. Again, phew!

Lets get back in front of the tv, drinking booze, eating maccas, kit-kats, twisties, etc, our saviours are going to change all our harm-doing habits for us."Honey, can you please flick over to "Days Of Our Lives" - I want to see what Brutus has done to Mary-lamb?" - "Sure Honey, I'm just watching the sport news to see who won last night, will be 2 minutes, is that ok." "Sure honey"......

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Our take on why "animals kill each other" is this. Living-Creator's dream of Life is perfect, is Paradise, and to keep it that way so that the physical form of the dream of Life does not fade away and die, all Life-Forms sense the perfection of Life, they all instinctively sense their purpose in Life as team players so that collectively all their fruits of labour, all their actions are designed to maintain, protect and expand the dream of Life. Any Life-form wavers from that perfection attracts another Life-Form to transmute that imperfection to maintain wholeness to the dream of Life.

This is ALL that is happening - nothing else is going on.

There is no death, just moving from one form of consciousness to another - the tree becomes humus, etc. Unless we forget who we really are, what we are really part of and our true purpose there is no death to MAN either.

We were never meant to interfere with Nature's way - instead our purpose is to co-create and expand the dream of Life by working with all Life-Forms of Life without doing harm to any Life-form, inanimate or not, which impacts harm upon all of Life.

All of Life is so intricately interconnected with all of Life.

We, MAN, are the custodians, caretakers, stewards and co-creators of the dream of Life; unfortunately our brains have been hijacked and are now used to think and feel thoughts that are not of the dream of Life, causing us to destroy the dream of Life as we give our Life-Force-energy to these thoughts of "duality".

Creatures who attack and kill MAN were either trained to do so or through SENSE, sense the distortion in fallen men, women and children, and do what they were created to do; transmute that imperfection.

There is no other reason why crocodiles, white pointer sharks, snakes, etc, attack us. It is us, transmitting our distortions into the forests, the oceans, the valleys, the hillsides, the mountains, etc, which TELLS the creatures to attack and transmute our imperfections.

If MAN remains perfect (pure and sincere), no creature will harm MAN. Instead they are our friends, partners, brothers/sisters, companions and co-creating team players of Life, all keen and willing to do whatever we ask of them through any of the many virtues of Love.

Also, we are not physically designed to eat meat - we have no claws, no sharp teeth to tear flesh, no short intestines for the meat to pass through quickly so that it does not putrefy in the gut. Also, the vast tracts of land and the gallons and gallons of water that it takes to produce the meat everyone eats could be used to provide land and water for many, many millions of people. Restoring and regenerating land used for agriculture and animal husbandry is one of the tasks/responsibilities before us.

The Love For Life articles, Facebook discussions, videos, podcasts, etc, go into these topics and so much more: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385

Love and hugs and sloppy xxxxxxxx
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

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The Cristian Family November 2006

The Non-Sense Obstacles
Of The "Sustainability Movement"
How The "Haves" (Rulers)
Still Want The "Have Nots" (Slaves)
A Facebook Discussion With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
5th May 2011 To 2nd June 2011

Hello to everyone,
We are sharing some of the obstacles we come up against in our efforts to create truly sustainable living. We were recently approached by Gregor who visited us almost a year ago to join a new Facebook discussion group/Grass Roots Movement: SUN - Sustainability United Network

This is their motto:

""S.U.N. is a global Not-for-Profit, grass roots movement that coaches willing individuals on how to live sustainably. It is a self-funding, independent organisation, that empowers individuals to commit to a personal behaviour and consumer choice pattern, which is long term sustainable and in harmony with the environment and nature. Its principal method is professional personal coaching, which is free of charge to the individuals requesting it. The information provided and recommendations made by SUN come from the most credible sources of the Sustainability movement. The movement will gain momentum and spread globally through personal references, referrals and funding of its participants and partners, until sustainable living becomes mainstream behaviour, allowing future generations to enjoy a peaceful, positive and inspiring existence."

The point of this discussion is that we have found that most people, ESPECIALLY those with fictional wealth, are unwilling to look at the truth about the fact that for them to be wealthy, indeed for any of us to be supporting an economy based system, is supporting slavery because for every article of clothing and cup of coffee, someone, somewhere has slaved for it. For every cent and every dollar there is a slave somewhere. This is why we are determined to create a Do No Harm Community (Kindom) that is not part of "The System" and is not based on commerce in any way. When there are enough of us, our LIFE-energy is all we need to make sure we all have everything we need. Sure, to start with, we need "The System" but the aim is to wean off it until we turn our backs completely. More and more communities doing it and its goodbye system and goodbye slavery!

This discussion clearly shows that many of us are just as brainwashed by the religions of the "New Age", "Self-Empowerment", "Life Empowerment", "Materialism", "Consumerism", "Oneness", "Science", etc, as we are by the religions of worship and how trained we are to ignore logic instead of following it to truth. Almost everything we learn in the education system of "The System", particularly in the courses of universities, is designed to keep our brains addled and confused. For more information on how to determine truth from fiction, read the article, "Re-Presenting Is The Pull Of Duality Into False Consciousness" here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8129 - We have all been got at and compromised and this is not about making anybody right or wrong but about how, together, we all have to help and learn from each other, if we are ever to lift the fog of non-sense (unconsciousness) from our brains and return to sense (consciousness) and living lives of sense.

Below S.U.N.S. most recent Facebook posts is the recent Facebook communication we had with them.

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

Monday 6th June 2011

Join the SUN Cause! Self Sustainable, Self Replicating

What We Do and How Do We Do It?

SUN offers coaching to individuals, who request help in order to move towards a sustainable way of life. Our coaches are committed, trained and professional people, who support individuals on their sustainability journey by means of personal interview, offering better choices and advice, then holding the individual accountable to an agreed strategy of implementation over time.

The key to success is taking full personal responsibility for our actions, choices and consumption behaviours. It is through our personal, proactive and continual enquiry and education about the impact of our choices, that we can affect global human behavior and facilitate the shift that is necessary towards sustainable living.

Who Are We?

SUN is a grassroots movement made up of individuals, who believe that a sustainable future for all of us is possible. We are not waiting for government, big business or the science community to take the lead on the journey to a sustainable future. In our view, we have the opportunity to be in partnership with nature and inhabit this planet in a way that allows us and all future generations to live a good life, indefinitely. We believe that personal commitment to sustainable living and the passing on of our transformation to an ever-increasing number of people will result in a situation in the near future, where responsible, sustainable human behavior will be mainstream.

We invite you to join our rapidly growing movement, if you share our beliefs.

Where Do We Get Our Information?

SUN has a think-tank, made up of credible, clear thinking and sustainability minded people with a big picture and end-to-end focus. They choose the information which is used for coaching purposes.

Information is obtained from leading scientific research in consultation with other sustainability movements and is assessed to ensure that it is not biased by hidden agendas or political policy. The aim of this panel is simply to produce the best information available, considering the need of the environment and all stakeholders.

What Makes Us Different From Other Sustainability Movements?

We recognise that many groups and organisations share our goal of a sustainable future.

Our points of difference are:

SUN is an engine of growth to the sustainability movement. Exponential expansion is being generated through a commitment from each of the coached participants, to open a door for two or more new individuals to request sustainability coaching.

SUN is transformational. Our coaches hold individuals accountable to producing the personal shift towards sustainable living that they have committed to, over an agreed period of time.

SUN is independent and self-funding. We ask participants who receive coaching to provide funding in form of an ongoing monthly donation, which will allow the movement to pass on the gift of coaching to others.

It is our intention to form synergies with all people and organisations who are aligned with our objectives, whilst maintaining total independence, so that we can choose the best way of addressing the challenges ahead of us at any time.

Get Involved!

SUN is in its formative phase, and we are looking for people and organisations to join us and help with the following:

* Request Sustainability coaching from SUN for when this becomes available
* Register interest to become a paid, professional sustainability coach with SUN
* Become a member of our movement
* Become part of our managing committee
* Be part of our team that assembles the coaching curriculum and its sustainability information content
* Help with initial seed funding or become a fundraiser for SUN
* Help to create awareness for our movement amongst other sustainability minded people and organisations

To get involved, please message us here: or call us:

Mobile: 0405 355 899

CAREERS

As our funding platform expands, we will rapidly engage more paid coaches to deliver SUN’s services of coaching and accountability to an ever-increasing number of people. Coaches will be carefully selected, trained, supported and paid for their efforts, in a way that allows them to earn a living, live a fulfilling life and make a real difference.

As our movement expands, we will also require leaders, managers, trainers, administrative personnel and professional fundraisers.

Watch this space for details and position descriptions as they become available.

Arthur & Fiona Cristian

Hello, we have been asked/invited to join this group but before we progress any further we need to ask you this question: What is the remedy you have that will bring everlasting truth, peace, freedom, joy, abundance and do no harm for all of life without the need for slaves or rulers?

5th May 2011

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Hi Arthur, this group is set up to help people move towards sustainable behaviour. We do not claim to have any remedy, but we invite you become part of a movement that voluntarily commits to transforming individual behaviour towards sustainable living and enroll more people into the vision of a future in harmony with the environment.

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Hi Gregor, this is Fiona and Arthur here. As you know, our commitment is to move away from "The System" until we have learnt how to live without it. So, yes, we are all for people learning how to live sustainably but we are NOT about living as sustainably as possible within "The System" or any new version of "The System", although, of course, we will still be temporarily using "The System" until we learn how not to.

To be fully sustainable means to take full responsibility for everything we think, feel and do, which means we no longer need "The System" of harm doing. To be fully sustainable means everyone is free, everyone is equal and everyone has abundance. While there are still some with dollars and others without, some able to choose nice places to live while others live in grotty places, some able to afford to make "healthy" consumer choices while others cannot afford to buy other than clothes from sweatshops and pesticide-ridden food, there will always be exclusivity and privilege and there will always be slaves.

We can make healthy consumer choices, but, however, environmentally friendly they are, someone has still had to slave to produce them for their masters who profit from them. While we are living in "The System" we are living in a world that is based on exclusivity and privilege, on haves and have nots, on compliance, slavery and "some are more equal than others". This applies to ANY man-made system; they all require slavery and rulers. To have commerce/money, cashless or not, is to have slavery. This is unavoidable.

The fruits that grow from the seed are in the image of the information in the seed. What image do you want your fruit to grow in? One of freedom, truth, joy, abundance and do no harm for ALL of LIFE, or sustainable living for those who can afford it in a man-made "system"?

How can we live sustainably when we are using dollars that form a system of slavery? Is living sustainably only for those who can afford to join with others to buy a beautiful piece of land and afford to set up sustainable infrastructure and grow organic veges? What about those who can't afford that? Sustainable is a word that is trendy and misused, as are the words "love", "freedom" and "truth". They are usually used to mean exclusivity, privilege and compliance and are based on individualism (in-divide-u-all-ism) and the wearing of rose coloured glasses. Their true meanings are lost in the duality of belief.

Real sustainability comes when we learn to live peacefully with each other and this has nothing to do with consumer choices. This has to do with learning what it is that keeps us apart as in-divid-u-al-s, glued together by "The System" glue of rules and regulations, slaves and rulers. Yes, we have to learn how to live without doing harm to nature but also without doing harm to each other, which is the main cause of the destruction of LIFE, including Earth and us. While we are lost in duality, we will still be individuals and will still need "The System" glue to bind us all together, as "One", so that we can get along with each other. To us "Oneness" is a scam.

Do we move forward with individualism, each of us caught up in our individual beliefs of duality that means we need others to take on the responsibility of making sure we all get on with each other because we are not taking full responsibility for getting on with our brothers and sisters of LIFE. Again, this means masters and slaves, rulers and ruled. Is this not what we have now?

Any time there are men and women seeing others having more than them, more land, comfort, choice, food, etc, there will be a problem down the line. This is at the heart of our problems now but we have been so brainwashed that we think it is normal that one man has more food than his body can ever need while another has nothing to eat.

At the moment, only some of us can pull out whilst being supported by others still in "The System". Arthur has been out of "The System" for 5 years now but this is only possible because Fiona and others give gifts that support him in doing the Love For Life work he does.

Without distraction through our waking LIFE since March 2005, we have been contemplating on the remedy to the way we currently destroy LIFE so we see very clearly what prevents men and women successfully living truly sustainable lives without doing or supporting harm to all of LIFE. The difficulty is that we are so compromised by duality, but most don't see this and bring the baggage of the duality of their system beliefs to "sustainable living", community, their relationships, whatever. We suggest you read this recent article, "Re-Presenting Is The Pull Of Duality Into False Consciousness" here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8129 and contemplate on the information we share. The comments section of this article contains even more information - Arthur's Facebook Wall also contains heaps of information found within the many debates/discussions: http://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian

What is it that SUN is offering? For us to coach or be coached? We are very clear on how to co-create a world of everlasting freedom, truth, joy, abundance and do no harm for all of LIFE. How would joining SUN support that?

SUN mentions nothing about communities, but what are we if not communities of men, women and children? How can we live sustainably without supporting each other?

LIFE is a team effort and we cannot progress forward while we are not a team. The creatures live for the forest and the forest takes care of all the creatures and altogether, they maintain the perfection of LIFE. Men, women and children live for the tribe and the tribe takes care of everyone and altogether, they maintain the perfection of LIFE. The only way froward is without greed, selfishness and self-centredness. Without "MY" sustainability, "MY" beliefs, "MY" truth," MY" freedom, "MY" abundance, "MY" enlightenment, "MY" money, "MY" land, "MY" food, "MY" water, "MY" assets ................

If everyone around us is not free, then we are not free. If everyone around us does not have peace, truth, joy, abundance and do no harm for all of LIFE, then we don't have peace, truth, joy, abundance and do no harm for all of LIFE either.

All the best,
Arthur and Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

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Adding community into the wording of the synopsis is something we should look at - this group is in its very early conceptual stages and this facebook group's intention is to obtain valuable opinions via discussions. Thank you Arthur and Fiona.

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Hi Arthur and Fiona, we have a Freeconomy group here in Brisbane you may interested in becoming a part of. We had out first meting last night and are setting up a Facebook page to facilitate communication between interested parties.

05 May at 13:57

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Lauren

Hi Arthur and Fiona

You may be interested in the Brisbane chapter of this Freeconomy group. We are a loose collection of similarly inclined individuals interested in moving towards a less cash-based economy. We had our first meeting last night. Check out Mark Boyle's blog and features on The Guardian... he's also written a book you may already know about.

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We define something as a system by conceptual scope of language. Nothing exists outside a system. To claim to be " outside" a system simply implies a deliberate choice of operating with a system that seeks to exclude certain parameters. What you really are objecting to is certain values. Values are always an individual choice. Integrity is a value we can choose to act by, or not. An empowered individual's actions are not governed by a system but by his or her values. If you want to change a system or anything for that matter, you need to get your values right first. Your behaviour will be the most powerful instrument of change.

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Exactly, which is why we must be always conscious of the images we are thinking. The world becomes in the image of the thoughts we are thinking which we put our LIFE-energy into.

All thoughts are images.

Our values are thoughts.

The challenge is to create an image (a value) of LIFE that does not require MAN to be a slave for the image to exist because then the image of LIFE is LIFE-SUSTAINABLE.

An empowered LIFE is an image of LIFE free from all forms of slavery systems.

An Empowered LIFE is one where no man, woman or child or any LIFE-form of nature, needs to be a slave for the system (the image) to exist. Refer to our original post/comment. What values (images) do you uphold?

An empowered LIFE is one where no harm is caused to any LIFE-forms of LIFE, inanimate or not.

All dreams come with FULL-responsibility.

LIFE is a dream made up of many thoughts. Who is taking full-responsibility for the dream of LIFE? If we go to the ant world and say "hey ants, we are changing your values, your program, you are all now free to be in-divid-u-al-s, you can each have your own truths and no one has the right to take them away from you." And so the ants go off to become materialists, Buddhists, Christians, Jews, republicans, democrats, New Agers, conservatives, punk rockers, journalists, psychologists, politicians, priests, banksters, judges, lawyers, etc, etc. Meanwhile back in the ant world colony hardly any ant is there to take care of the babies and the elderly and no ants are available to maintain the nest. Inevitably the ant-world perishes and ants no longer exist! Is this consequence we all want? Who is taking FULL-responsibility for the dream of LIFE?

Just how many people today are taking full-responsibility for "The System" of commerce (the image - their values) they support which they are compliant to and from which they benefit great profits off the back of others who must suffer and slave and be harmed for the privilege of fictional wealth and "standing" in "The System"?

In "The System", the image of commence, for every man, woman and child rising up in the see-saw status of commercial "standing", "privilege" and "exclusivity", many, many others must fall down in the see-saw lower status of LIFE that is poverty, homelessness, uncertainty, minimal options, loss of freedom, slavery, malnutrition, etc, and this includes all other negative-destructive emotions and consequences they may experience and endure arising out of the struggles for having a LIFE in "The System" of commerce. Not only must they take responsibility for their lives but also the lives of their children, extended family and other loved ones.

An unedited extract from our next article about MANS displacement of Land - to be posted very shortly in the Love For Life website and its mailing list:

"No Man Is Master Of Another Man
The Lie That Is Common Law, Trial By Jury And Democracy

A Natural Inheritance"

"Common Law, purported by many to be the key to our freedom, can never give us what we seek because it is tied to constitution, democracy, free enterprise, capitalism and economics, all of which are the cause of displacement of men and women from land. In a dog-eat-dog, survival of the fittest system, there are always those who thrive and those who succumb, not because they are stupid but because their skills do not lie in making money out of others. Their skills are elsewhere. They end up enslaved to rent, food bills, power bills and water bills, working most of their waking hours to meet these demands while even the "haves" are enslaved to the demands of their money and "their" land as they have to pay the rates, the taxes and the bills. If they do really well, they make enough money to service all these obligations without worry but they still have to keep making money if they are to maintain their wealth and their standing.

Common Law protects the inequality of haves and have nots, of rich and poor. "The System" of commerce discriminates against the uniqueness of billions of men, women and children. Common Law supports this discrimination. In "The System", all individuals are created out of the same mould and those who break away from this mould suffer immense consequences.

All systems, whether monarchies, dictatorships, republics or any other form of system, displace MAN from land and nothing of any system solves the problem of displacement from land. Until we solve this problem, we will never have freedom. We all know that all men, women and children are equal but we support and fight for systems that give some men and women standing over others. How can any system that supports this lie give us truth, peace and freedom? How can any of the laws, religions, processes, economic systems, etc, that are all based on inequality, provide freedom for all? Putting our energy into anything that is not providing men and women with their natural inheritance to land is a waste of time. Land is freedom. Displacement from land is slavery."

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I am unique. I believe freedom is in my heart. I chose to pour my energy into learning and choosing ways to create less waste.

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Good for you for trying to cut down on waste, something we all need to do. In the dream of LIFE we are all unique, yet whole, not separate from each other. In wholeness, we are all entwined with each other and how you think and feel impacts our lives and the lives of our children. Should we all be taking full-responsibility for all of life or should we just remain as in-divide-u-all-s and continue living the way things are in "The System" of commerce today?

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Dear Arthur and Fiona,

By your very elaborate posts using a medium of human communication that exist entirely as a byproduct of what you call "the system" you convey unequivocally a willingness not only to participate on the system, but to also take advantage in it for personal agendas.

I suggest that in order not to further compromise the values that you so vehemently advocate, you limit your posting on this forum to brief contributions that are relevant to this forum. Please do not use this forum as a means to promote your websites and organizations, that is not the purpose of S.U.N.

We seek people who are interested in nurturing and promoting viable, practical and effective strategies for global wellbeing and prosperity in a truly sustainable manner. We gladly acknowledge that you are effectively declining the invitation to be part of S.U.N. and hence will cease posts on this forum.

We wish you all the best on your out-of-system journey.

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Winfried, It appears those at S.U.N do not stand for freedom of speech, or is this just you? Last time we looked, we were not living in the ex-Soviet Union, or China. Is thought control part of individual empowerment?

In our first reply, we asked whether the invitation from S.U.N. was to be coaches or to be coached? Please clarify. You seem very keen to be rid of us as quickly as possible but we would like to know why we were invited to join. We have had some very detailed discussions with Gregor, after he came into our lives in October 2010 having been reading the Love For Life information we share for some time previously. He is still on the Love For Life mailing list and he knows who we are and what we are about and he extended the invitation.

By your comments, however, we obviously do not fit the mould of man and woman "suitable" for S.U.N. Have you realised that we will never have peace and freedom for all while we pick and choose who we talk to, work with, join forces with, etc? Picking and choosing the "right" people is exactly the problem we have today in this world of divide and rule, where we are divided up into herds following the one in front according to our belief systems, ignoring, ridiculing, abusing and ostracising those who don't fit in with those belief systems. As Gregor knows, our energy is put into overcoming these divisions so that we can learn to work together for the benefit of LIFE despite our differences.

You request that we keep contributions to this discussion relevant; everything we have shared has been a response to information put out by S.U.N. members. The Love For Life work we do is all about sustainable living, but it is sustainable living not just on a consumer level but across the whole horizon of values that co-create freedom, truth, peace, abundance, joy and do no harm for everyone, every man, woman and child, meaning that there is no harm, no suffering and no stress because of a system where a few think they have the right to have power and control over many.

As it is, life in "The System", for more than 90% of the population, is getting more and more stressful and difficult and this all has an effect on sustainable living which impacts everyone's life, i.e, they are at the effect of theft, fraud, rape, pillage, plunder, abuse, lies, collusion, corruption, deception, harm, etc. The effects of these experiences induce trauma, fear, uncertainty, distrust, arrogance, ignorance, indifference, righteousness, loneliness, emptiness, self-centeredness, fantasy, illusion, delusion, etc. Collectively these stories resonating through "The System" language, form a morass of baggage that pulls everyone away from true sustainable-living. How can we all have true sustainable living when most of us live behind alarm systems, security grills,

Frankly, most people just cannot afford to buy sustainable products, build sustainable homes and eat organic food. There is a far deeper problem to be addressed here. Going for sustainability on a consumer level is something only a very, very few people can do.

We have been on the front line of hearing and often directly experiencing the problems that people across a broad spectrum of life are dealing with for the past 6 years and we can assure you that most people are struggling with issues far deeper than whether they buy biodegradable washing up liquid. For your interest, the website receives up to 12 million hits per month, we receive up to 1000 emails/comments a day and, through the sprouting offshoots and networks, the mailing list reaches over half a million readers. The point is, we are saturated with phone calls, emails and visits from people suffering and desperate for help. We do what we can for them and we do not charge for anything, just as we do not charge for access to any of the information on the Love For Life website, despite the fact that, since March 2005, Arthur has put most of his waking hours into it and Fiona does what she can around raising the children and keeping the house together. There is also no advertising on the website because we refuse to sell out.

We promote real sustainable living which means we have to rout out all the non-sense of "The System", which we do as part of this work. In the past 22 months, our family has received 12 serious death threats and over the past 12 months, there have been 3 attempts on Arthur's life, the last time with the youngest of our four daughters in the car.

We say all this because you talk about integrity, love and empowerment. We have been doing this for 6 years, which is why we ask what it is S.U.N. thinks we can offer. We have both also done the Landmark Forum, Fiona once in the 1990s and Arthur once in the 1980s and once in the 1990s, so we comprehend the brainset of the way you and other S.U.N. members talk.

The extent of the harm being done as a result of how "The System" operates is something that terrifies most people. They would rather put on their blinkers or their rose-coloured glasses than confront what is really going on. This is because most people are selfish and do not want to share what they have. Perhaps we are wrong, as we don't know you, but it seems that you are unaware of just how deep the chaos goes. We estimate that, just along the East Coast of Australia, swinging around to Victoria, there are at least half a million men, women and children alive today who have suffered and/or are suffering from the effects of sexual abuse, paedophile gangs, sex rings, Satanic ritual abuse, etc, and the same figure, probably even up to a million, of people who are suffering from bank fraud, tax fraud and abuse at the hands of bureaucrats, the law, politicians and representatives of the private sector. We are only giving a very brief overview here.

Do you now comprehend why we say that sustainable consumerism is just for the privileged few?

Just because what we share does not fit into what is acceptable to you, does not mean it is not relevant. The fact is that you are adding meaning to what you are reading and making assumptions about our intent. You are painting your own picture over the one we are sharing, blocking out the information we share. It is as if we are not on your radar. Some of the comments you make suggest that you have not actually read our posts because the answers to your points are right there in plain English. You suggest that we are using "this forum as a means to promote your websites and organisations"; we are not an organisation and the website is there for those who wish to comprehend further what we are sharing. Do you not wish for others to have access to information they might find relevant? No one is under any obligation to go to the website.

And yes, like everyone, we are compromised and have to use "The System" to get out of "The System". This is neither right or wrong but about taking responsibility to stop the harm. Are you and other S.U.N. members not doing what you think is best to get people thinking about sustainability? Using the internet is the quickest way to communicate so we use it, all the while looking forward to the day when we no longer need to have computers in our lives. We recognise that we can only walk to a world of peace, freedom, joy, abundance and do no harm for all together, so there is no point in disappearing into the bush. Most people are in a deep sleep when it comes to really comprehending "The System" and they will not wake up without someone shaking them, with good intention, with love.

Some choose to go back to sleep but others are grateful to whatever caused them to open their eyes. If people can't open up their brains to the bigger picture, they will never make a difference because all their good efforts will be tied to a system of chaos and suffering in the system of languages and stories, whether the current system or the next version to be ushered in shortly, the "sustainable", feel good (feel God), cosmic, galactic, Christianised, New Age, "Oneness" system. It may feel and look good but it will still require slaves and masters. We no longer wish to be anyone's slave and we no longer wish to live in a world where some have and some do not.

S.U.N. is about " nurturing and promoting viable, practical and effective strategies for global well being and prosperity in a truly sustainable manner." Just how is it possible to have prosperity for all? Who is going to collect the garbage and clean the sewers if they are prosperous? People only do those jobs because they have no choice and they do them for wages that do not allow them to make sustainable consumer choices.

The fact is, organisations such as SUN allow the "haves" to assuage their consciences by "doing something" about the destruction we are all responsible for, just as the wealthy elite buy tickets to charity balls and donate expensive items for auction, without actually addressing the glaring, global, inequality of wealth and the deep divisions between us all.

We have found that most people, especially those with fictional wealth, are unwilling to look at the truth about the fact that for them to be wealthy, and indeed for any of us to be supporting an economy based system, is to be supporting slavery because for every article of clothing and cup of coffee bought, someone, somewhere has had to slave to produce it. For every cent and every dollar there is a slave somewhere. This is why we are determined to create a community that is not part of "The System" and is not based on commerce in any way. When there are enough of us, our LIFE-energy is all we need to make sure we all have everything we need. Sure, to start with, we need "The System" but the aim is to wean off it until we turn our backs completely. More and more communities doing it and its goodbye system and goodbye slavery.

S.U.N. may influence the far less than 1% of the population that can afford to make sustainable consumer choices but wouldn't it be more useful to address the deeper issues that allow some to be "haves", others to be "have nots" and everyone to think that this is normal and acceptable.

30th May 2011 at 12:55

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Ken Aberdeen

Very interesting discussion! (please, nobody cut me down!) :)

30 May at 20:42

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Shhevaun Pix

Content for SUN needs to be run through the Contents Committee. Please limit all communication here to short points. For further info see the docs to the right and if you have further concerns please message the person who added you to the group.

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Gregor

[Note: This is an email we received from Gregor. It was not posted to this Facebook discussion]

Dear Arthur and Fiona,

Thanks for your posts on the SUN forum on facebook.

I have invited you join the movement, in case you see it as an opportunity and feel alignment with our cause and method.

I am well aware that SUN uses elements of the "system" in order to attempt widespread and fast transformation of human behaviour.

I agree that it does not deal with some of the root causes of the problems that we are facing in Humanity.

However, a bunch of enthusiastic individuals, including myself, feel inspired by the movement and feel it is worthwhile to grow it.

If you do not feel alignment with what we stand for and how we want to go about it, then I totally respect that.

Your posts are overwhelming to some to the people that I am working with, so I would ask you kindly to keep them positive and succinct, alternatively not to contribute.

Many thanks,
Gregor

31st May 2011 6:01 PM

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Arthur & Fiona

Hi Gregor,

Yes, realise that what we say is not suited to SUN and that we will not be popular there! :-)

Just remember, we don't have anything against you or others of SUN but we have broader horizons and, no matter how successful SUN is in inspiring people to buy more sustainably, the root problems are still there and still have to be faced sometime if we are to ever have peace, etc.

We will most likely not be posting more to this thread but we just wanted to reply to Winfried because he was very dismissive of us and did not appear to have made the effort to comprehend what we were on about or our intention. Many people caught up in their stories lose the ability to feel people they are communicating with and this leads to much harm, disconnection and confusion.

By the way, how would SUN coach Fiona to be a more sustainable consumer when she has $700 a fortnight after rent to feed, clothe, run the car, pay bills, etc for a family of 6? Not possible! And most people are worse off than her. You don't have to answer this question.

All the best,
Arthur and Fiona

2nd June 2011 12:59 PM

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The Cristian Family November 2006

Videos: Key To Kindom
Co-Creation Of Do No Harm Communities
Causing A Mass Exodus From "The System"
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

7th February 2011

24 Minutes 47 Seconds

WELCOME TO LOVE FOR LIFE. Love For Life is committed to the creation of Do No Harm, Kin Domain communities throughout the world. Kindoms, where we grow our own food and support one another away from the endless rules and obligations we currently struggle under, are the only way to achieve lives of peace, joy and abundance for all and take care of Earth so that Earth flourishes. Love For Life shines a light on the darkness of the world we live in so that we may all recognise that darkness and until there is nowhere left for it to hide. March 2005 - Arthur & Fiona Cristian

7th Feb 2011, 837pm, Sydney time. Please read "The Ten Steps Of Kindom" here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5788 to see how we achieve the dream of Kindom. This email was written in 2007 as a rough, sketchy idea that we intentionally left alone while we continued our search for truth and the remedy to our problems. We have come a long way since then, particularly in the ways we now word things so we are shortly to update it into a full working model. We will also be posting more information on the topics covered, either in other videos or by adding to this one.

Please read our articles to explore all the insights we have been unravelling and putting to the test to be sure we are on the path of Do No Harm: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385

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Hi Everyone
We released another video. A long time coming. We plan to do more shortly.
Thank you to Justin & Bruno for coming out to Bowral one afternoon and making this spontaneous video with us.
Children thoroughly enjoyed your company as we did.

You can see how much weight Arthur has put on since March 2010 after being followed,
the three serious attempts on his life over the past 8 months or so,
the last time with 3 year old Xanthe in the back-seat of the family car
and the 12 serious death threats to the family over the past 18 months or so.
Its effected him much more than he realised.

Even though he is a dedicated raw-food eater (no meat or dairy or cooked food)
he hasn't managed the change in his lifestyle as well as he could have.
He used to fast walk 2 hours per day at least 5 days per week.
He has probably had around 7 walks since March 2010,
He stays in doors for weeks on end working 16 to 18 hours per day for Love For Life.
He feels his life is of better use serving LIFE over the net, doing what he does, reaching out
to anyone he can help wake up than being locked up or dead and lost to the cause of true freedom.
Fiona looks beautiful as always.

All the best
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

Once Upon A Time

Fiona Cristian - 8 minutes 37 Seconds
by Arthur Cristian (videos)

A Grandmother and her grandchildren are walking through a forest when one of the grandchildren breaks a small branch off a tree. The Grandmother stops walking.

Grandmother - Did you break that branch to bring sunlight to the flowers beneath?

Tom - No, Grandmother, they are violets that like the shade.

Grandmother - Did you break it because you wanted to take blossoms to your mother?

Tom - No, Grandmother, there are no blossoms on this branch.

Grandmother - Then why did you break the branch, Grandson?

Tom - I guess I wasn’t thinking, Grandmother. I have broken the tree for no reason.

Sam - But there are so many trees in the forest, Grandmother, why does it hurt that Tom broke just one?

Grandmother - Children, if there are many of you and I hurt just one of you, does it matter? Do you think it matters for Katie if I choose to hurt her rather than Judy? And if I hurt Katie, will I not also be harming the rest of you because you will now have doubt about how I might behave towards you. If I can hurt Katie, might I not one day hurt any of you?

Come children, this is a nice place to sit - I have a story to tell you.

THE FAIRYTALE

Once upon a time there was a world full of people who loved to be slaves. They so loved being slaves that, if anyone suggested that there might be a way not to be a slave, the slaves raised their eyebrows, gave an embarrassed laugh and turned away as quickly as they could.

The slaves lived in a beautiful world full of natural wonders; of waterfalls, lakes and powerful seas, of mountains, valleys and majestic forests and of everything they needed to live lives of joy, freedom and abundance.

Their beautiful world was what sustained them, giving them air to breathe, water to drink and food to eat. Without their beautiful world, the slaves could not survive but they had been slaves for so long that they no longer noticed that their enslavement was slowly killing the world that gave them life.

They had forgotten that they were part of their beautiful world and their beautiful world was part of them. They had forgotten who they really were.

The slaves spent most of their time giving their energy to an artificial world, a fairytale that had been superimposed over the natural, life giving one. As the fairytale had no life force energy of its own, it needed the constant input of the slaves to appear to function.

Like all slave masters, the fairytale was not kind. The slaves had to spend hours away from their families and homes “working”, just in order to have a place to live and food on the table.

There were rules and regulations that the slaves were expected to conform to and those that transgressed were severely punished.

Of course, all the slaves had to do to be free was to get together and remove their energy from the fairytale because, without them, it could only collapse. But the fairytale had systems in place to teach the slaves that they were all individuals, isolated and alone, and that a life of slavery was the only one possible.

They learnt that only slaves belonging to their particular slave group could be trusted, that their slave group was superior to any other slave group and, in some cases, that they must be prepared to fight other slaves and even die for their slave group. The fear and trauma generated by the images of the fairytale kept them firmly in their places.

Thus it was impossible for the slaves to unite despite the fact that, deep down, every slave was aware that their addiction to slavery was killing the world that gave them life.

So why did the slaves keep working for the fairytale and giving up their freedom if they knew the consequences? It was partly because the hole seemed too deep and frightening to climb out of, partly because they had been taught to expect someone else to solve their problems for them and partly because they were too tired from working so hard for the fairytale to think about it. But the main reasons the slaves kept their heads down and tails up was that they were unwilling to give up the temptations of the fairytale.

Concoctions of chemicals disguised as food, with tantalising tastes that induced cravings, despite the damage done to the body. Drinks full of poison that sent you out of your mind for a while so you could forget your worries. Shops full of things to possess, bigger, better places to live, smarter, more powerful means of transport, more exotic and exclusive places to travel to, countless coverings for the body, and an endless array of ways and means to fill the time not spent in the service of the slave master.

Upon all these things the slaves placed more value than their freedom. As long as they could have their fairytale addictions, they were willing to be slaves.

A few slaves tried to turn the tide. They tried to break free of their shackles but it was very hard. Often they were punished, ridiculed and starved back into submission, even though all they asked was to be able to take on the responsibility of caring for themselves, others and the natural world.

As time went on, the fairytale became an increasingly harsh master, demanding more and more energy from its slaves until even previously happy slaves began to feel that all was not right.

As the demands grew, so did the restrictions until the few avenues available for the slaves to take back their freedom dwindled away and the punishments for slaves attempting to do so became even more severe.

The fairytale spread over more and more of the natural world, raping, pillaging and plundering until the rivers were choked, the mountains gouged beyond recognition and the forests reduced to matchsticks teetering in dusty, barren soil.

As the air became too thick to breathe, the water too contaminated to drink and the food lost all its life forces, the slaves began dying too quickly and in numbers too large not to notice.

Too late, the slaves realised that the fairytale had nothing to offer them and that they had all but destroyed their only means of existence. Chaos all around them, the remaining slaves realised they had to change their ways before it was too late.

But where to start?

There were a few slaves who had seen the signs and hidden themselves away. They had stored clean water, kept some seeds and found the few trees left that could provide them with clean air.

As the relentless destruction trickled to a halt and Earth breathed a sigh of relief, these slaves came out of their hiding places and gathered together with the others, ready and willing to take on the job of repairing the damage done.

And perhaps, even as they looked around at the desolate remains of their once beautiful land, they smiled because they had remembered who they really were and at last they were free.

Katie – And did they do it, Grandmother? Did they save Earth?

Grandmother – Have a look around, children. Did we do it?

Judy – We? We, Grandmother? Were you one of those slaves?

Grandmother – I was.

Tom – And Grandfather?

Grandmother – Yes he was, children. Grandfather, Great Uncle Collin and Great Aunt Danielle and many of the other older men and women you know.

Sam – But how did you do it, Grandmother? How did you make Earth better? If it was all broken and dirty, how did you fix it?

Grandmother – The first thing we had to do was to look at everything we had been doing and see how we had hurt Earth. And then we had to work out how to live in ways that didn’t hurt Earth.

We realised that the only way to help Earth become the beautiful paradise it had once been was to make sure that everything we did helped Earth and didn’t hurt Earth.

Sometimes we do break branches or chop down a tree but we never do it if we don’t have a good reason. That’s why I asked Tom why he had broken the branch.

He was not thinking or feeling the tree when he broke the branch and so he was able to do harm to the tree. And you are right Sam – just one little branch doesn’t make much difference in a beautiful forest like this one, but imagine if everybody began breaking branches, thinking that just one branch wouldn’t make any difference. In time, the forest would be full of broken trees.

This is how we start to do harm children, and one seemingly small act of harm leads to complete destruction if it is repeated enough times. Now I have told you the story of how we nearly destroyed Earth before you were born, I hope that you will always be mindful of your actions so that you will never do harm to this beautiful Earth we are so lucky to live on.

Children – We will, Grandmother. Of course, Grandmother.

The End

THE HOUSE

Fiona Cristian - 8 Minutes
by Arthur Cristian (videos)

There was once an enormous house with hundreds of rooms. In these rooms lived many, many people, sleeping, waking up, eating, drinking and going about their daily business.

The house was not a very safe house; things were always going wrong and many unfortunate accidents were had by the people of the rooms.

For the most part, the people accepted this as part of life in the house. They thought that unfortunate accidents were to be expected because nothing is perfect and the builders of the house had surely done the best they could when building it.

Occasionally a few people got upset, especially when they were the ones affected by the unfortunate accidents, and complained to the builders who usually sent a representative round to fix the odd hole in the wall, patch up a few windows, assure the people that all was well and generally smooth things over.

The complainers were not always satisfied but, with no other recourse at hand and surrounded by others telling them that everything was ok and not to worry, they soon found it too difficult to swim against the tide and turned back to their distractions.

And distractions there were aplenty for the thoughtful builders had not only built a place for people to live, they had built a place where the people could have FUN! There was sport, entertainment, recreational activities, an endless array of courses to learn about an endless array of subjects, gardens for those who liked to grow flowers, any number of different spiritual centres and, on the more illicit side, there was easy sex, alcohol, drugs and gambling. There was something for everyone.

Of course a few of the diehard complainers said that the builders only provided the distractions so that people would spend all their time on them rather than focusing on all the accidents their shoddy building work was causing but they were written off as trouble makers or slapped on the back and told to come to a distraction centre and forget about it.

If they persisted in making a noise, House Security would come and have a word with them and, if necessary, look after them in a secure place for a little while so that they did not interfere with the enjoyment of the rest of the inhabitants of the house.

For the most part, the people of the house were too caught up debating and even fighting over whose distraction was the best and which distraction everybody ought to follow to spend time thinking about the builders and their failure to provide a safe house.

Given the problems with the house, most of the inhabitants were happy to leave it to the builders and had little time for anyone who suggested that there might be ways to improve the house or even do away with it altogether.

As well as distractions, the builders of the house provided learning centres for children where, from an early age, they were instructed on and taught to memorise how the house worked, the rules of the house, the infrastructure of the house and how to do their part in maintaining the house.

It was also explained to them that there wasn’t really any other way to live apart from in the house and that, unfortunate though the accidents were, there wasn’t really anything the inhabitants of the house could do and that the builders were doing their best to set things right and would be able to do so if they had the support of the inhabitants of the house.

As they grew up, the children of the house could either continue learning about the hows and whys of the house or they could start “working” for the house. This was another way the inhabitants of the house filled their time.

Most of them spent many of their waking hours working for the builders of the house in all areas of the house. Some added new rooms for new people, others worked maintaining the infrastructure of the house while still more worked in the area of distractions, running the sport, entertainment, etc. Others worked for the builders making “improvements” to the house which were always widely broadcast as “progress” but which somehow never seemed to solve the problems of the house.

There were those who learnt how to instruct children in the learning centres, those who joined House Security and also those who learned how to provide medication for those suffering from the ill effects of their distractions and life in the house in general.

These medications did not cure the sufferers but allowed them to get back to work and to their distractions as quickly as possible. Indeed, they did not expect to be cured because most people around them were not completely healthy so they accepted ill health as the norm. Of course, the builders of the house tried to help them with all sorts of initiatives but somehow disease and ill health persisted.

“Work” was considered very important because the type of work a man or woman did determined how they lived within the house. Those whose work was deemed very important were given bigger, smarter rooms and access to more supplies than others whose work was not thought to be so important, even though there was often little difference in time spent working.

Not surprisingly, those who received less for their effort felt resentful towards those who received more which lead to the erection of barriers between different parts of the house.

Barriers were also erected between those who felt so strongly about their chosen distraction that they could not live near supporters of a different distraction without coming to blows.

A few inhabitants tried to bring everyone together to focus on how to deal with the problems of the house but habits were entrenched and common ground not to be found.

So the unfortunate accidents and problems with the infrastructure of the house continued.

There were problems with food and water supplies, overcrowding, roomlessness due to people not working hard enough to keep their rooms and a House Security that was over stretched dealing with inhabitants who refused to obey the rules of the house.

Suffering was growing to such an extent that even the usually most contented house inhabitants began to murmur about improvements being needed. Too many people were hurting, too many people were sick and too many people were struggling just to have food and a ceiling over their heads. Something had to be done.

Finally the builders of the house called a meeting. They had a solution. They had built a new house, an improved house for everyone to live in.

The new house had a much stronger and more powerful House Security whose job would be much easier because all the inhabitants of the new house would have a member marker in them so that they could be instantly identified.

This would make it less complicated for them to get supplies of food, water and whatever else they needed and easier for them to travel about.

Even better, no one would be allowed to live in the new house unless they received injections that would keep them safe from the many diseases of the old house and ensure that they were happy and willing to accept the rules of the new house.

The builders would be able to keep a much closer eye on everything to ensure that life ran smoothly and that any unfortunate accidents were kept to a minimum.

The builders ensured the people that they had looked at all the alternatives and were more than satisfied that a new house was the best solution available for everyone, especially as the new house was equipped with even more distraction centres than the old one.

There would be even more fun for all.

Most of the people were happy; they would be able to move to the new, improved house and get on with their lives of working for the house and enjoying the distractions of the house.

A few were not happy and voiced their discontent.

They did not see how the new house was an improvement to the old house, especially as it seemed to just be an updated version of the same.

They questioned how the problems of the old house would not begin to appear in the new house. They appealed to the builders to reconsider and even said they would like to build their own houses, without help from the builders.

The builders smiled and gently suggested that they had done the research and it was not possible for the people to take on such responsibility.

Without House Security in place, anything might happen, without the new injections, who knew what diseases might run rampant and without the learning centres, how would the children understand the importance of the house?

To be sure of food, water and a place to stay, the new house was the only option. The demolition team was booked for the old house and systems were already set up for the transition from the old house to the new one.

There really wasn’t anywhere else to go.

THE ORIGINS OF THE HOUSE

Fiona Cristian - 4 Minutes 57 Seconds
by Arthur Cristian (videos)

Once upon a time there was no house. The people lived simply on the land in harmony with the rest of creation and with each other.

They did not see themselves as apart from creation but as part of creation. Like a ray of sunlight, a grain of sand on a beach or a drop of water in the ocean, they knew they were linked to every other living thing of creation and that every other living thing of creation was linked to them.

It was because of this that they were careful to live without doing harm to any other part of creation because they knew that if they harmed one part of creation they were also harming themselves and the rest of creation. They lived like this for many, many years.

Then, one day, the people of the land saw an enormous ship sailing towards the shores of the land they lived on. As it grew closer, they saw men covered from head to toe in strange garments carrying objects they had never seen before.

The ship stopped and some men climbed down into a smaller boat and headed for the shore. Wary but curious, the people of the land moved to meet them.

A man got out of the boat and walked towards them.

The people of the land greeted him courteously, stifling their amusement at the way he was dressed.

The man opened his mouth and spoke gobbledygook. Again muffling their giggles the people of the land used sign language to try and communicate. They offered food and water.

The man offered them some brightly coloured objects which seemed to have no use but which were accepted gracefully by the people of the land who did not want to seem ungrateful. The man went back to his ship.

Days passed and the men from the ship visited daily. The people of the land continued to be polite but they could not comprehend what the men wanted or why they persisted in giving them so many useless objects made from materials they had never seen before.

Most of the people of the land tried to get on with their usual way of life but one or two of them spent time with the strange men, learning their gobbledygook in an attempt to find out what they were doing there. Eventually, they called a gathering of the people of the land.

They explained that the men on the ship wanted to build a great house, which was a place for everyone to live. The men on the ship would teach the people of the land how to live in the house and new ways of living with each other. They would teach them their gobbledygook and show them how to cover themselves like the men on the ship. They would show them new ways to keep healthy, new ways to eat and new ways to raise their children. They would give the people of the land some of their strange things and teach them how to use them.

The people of the land talked for a long time. They did not see anything wrong with the way they already lived their lives in harmony with the rest of creation.

They had also seen the men from the ship behaving in ways they did not like; the men killed some of their animal friends with things called guns, made fires and sometimes drank something that made them behave very stupidly and even made them ill.

The food the men gave the people of the land made them feel unwell and some of them had also felt ill just from being in contact with the men. They could not see what benefit the house would bring them.

The people of the land politely refused the offer of the men on the ship and went about their business, expecting the ship to leave. To their surprise, the next morning, they found all the men from the ship lined up on the shore holding their guns. They said they had come to build the house for the people of the land.

The people of the land repeated their disinterest in the house and asked the men to leave. One of the men from the ship fired his gun into the air. The house was to be built.

So began a time of terror for the people of the land; anyone who refused to go along with the men from the ship was killed. Women were taken and children beaten.

Other people of the land arriving to help were killed or forced to help with the building of the house. More men arrived on ships with more guns and the mass murders began.

The people of the land resisted as they could until they were worn down by the endless murder and destruction.

For the sake of their children, the remaining people of the land subjected themselves to the will of the men from the ship.

They helped to build the house and took up residence in it. They learned the ways of the men on the ship, to work for the men on the ship and to send their children to the learning centres of the house.

They tried to teach their children the stories of their previous peaceful way of life but they were so traumatised they found it hard to talk about and the stories they did tell were usually contradicted by what their children were taught at the learning centres.

Many of the older people of the land died of broken hearts.

More men, women and children arrived on ships and also moved into the house. They were given the best rooms and the important work. The people of the land who had the energy to care were aggrieved by this and complained.

The builders of the house smoothed things over with a few promises but nothing much changed; the problems of the house had begun.

Note: See other videos - It's A Wonderful World? Eight Short Videos By Fiona & Arthur Cristian - Love For Life: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7275

The Cristian Family November 2006

Disclaimer
Written By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
18th October 2010
In response To The One-Heaven Work of Frank O'Collins

Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7500

All the information provided below regarding the "Ecclesiastical Deed Poll" and all other information provided by Frank O'Collins (and others) and from Frank O'Collins websites One-Heaven.org and Ucadia.com has not been tested by us. Frank says that others have had great success with the Ecclesiastical Deed Poll but we have learnt from experience that what works for some does not always work for others, although this document does seem to be vastly superior to any others that we have seen. Like all legal/freeman, sovereign, health, etc, information on the Love For Life website, this information is there for those who are interested in studying it, not as tried, tested and guaranteed to work. Make sure you comprehend it before you use it; as Frank says, if you cannot explain what you are doing and the information you are using in at least three ways you do not comprehend it sufficiently to use it effectively, especially when it comes to challenging "officials" and being tested in court (caught).

We have been saying for years that all man-made laws are derived from black magic and Frank's work explains the devious Roman Cult technicalities of this black magic and all its spells and rituals. Canon Law is derived from this wizardry which has been around for a very long time, all civilisations coming out of it. Across all his recorded his-story, Canon Law is just one of the many "crafts" (abominations) invented by the Grand Architect and "practised" by his descendants and devotees.

As we have stated before, pieces of paper do not create consciousness and we see the Ucadia System (includes information from One-Heaven) and Positive Canon Law as being just another system, albeit a "good" system. The problem with systems of any kind, bar the system of nature/LIFE that we are part of, is that they are dead-corpses and need to be administered by 3rd parties and need some (3rd parties) to have higher standing than others. Any manufactured system allows some to let go of taking full-responsibility for how they live their lives and to rely on others to tell them how to think, feel and what to do..... to "PASS THE BUCK"!!!

What Love For Life is all about is men and women taking FULL-responsibility for how they think, feel and act and learning to live in ways that do no harm to LIFE through feelings, thoughts, words and deeds. We have found that many who are attracted to the Love For Life work are really enthusiastic until they realise that going down this path means a complete change in how they live their lives and the possible/probable alienation of at least some family members and friends who don't wish to wake up to the fact that they are slaves from birth to death. When you have been used to others telling you how to think and feel and what to do all your life, it is sometimes a scary proposition to take complete responsibility for your LIFE. Therefore, we predict that Positive Canon Law and the Ucadia System will become enormously well known across earth over the next twenty four months and will be used successfully by many.

Herein lies the deception; we feel that Ucadia is part of the new, feel-good (feel god), New World Order (the prophesied one thousand year golden millennium - the new civilisation of commerce) that we have been warning everyone about for the past few years. Here is "good", "just" law, based on spirituality and conscience, law that sends the curses of "The System" back onto the cursers, freeing those who use it of their binds to "The System". BUT just ask your brains a few questions: where has all this information come from? Where does Canon Law come from? What history and knowledge is Canon Law based on? What System does it come out of? Is it part of the information of nature/LIFE or is it part of "The System"? If all men, women and children are equal, why is Ucadia full of hierarchies, both "spiritual" and "earthly"? This is no different from the current "System" that teaches those who are looking for spirituality that there are the heavenly hierarchies of Archangels down to cherubs. This acclimatises and persuades us to accept the hierarchies that govern us as "normal" and even "necessary" for the sake of order. Please read our recent article: We Are The Life Of The Dream Of Life: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7417 and listen to this recent one hour thirty four minute American Freedom radio interview with Arthur and Vinnie Eastwood: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7483 which explains CON-structs that are the basis of all "Systems" (All Civilisations Of Commerce Are Apocalyptic By Design) and all darkness and destruction. We are also writing further articles on the topics mentioned here so, if you are not registered to the Love For Life mailing list and would like to receive them, please register here: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/09/05/14/campaign-mailing-list - We feel that comprehending CON-structs and the difference between the information of LIFE and the information of "The System" is vital if we are to regain our true freedom.

Frank also talks about the connections between the spiritual side of his work and the Celtic culture of Ireland. We feel, however, that this Celtic culture goes back to the culture of Ancient Greece which goes back to Ancient Egypt. These civilisations and all those between are all civilisations of "The System", following the trail of the Aryan bloodlines of the Grand Architect and his descendants who have been the founding fathers of all the civilisations of "The System" and who are behind the creation of this new system now being imagined out of Ucadia, One Heaven and Positive Canon Law. Constructs, constructs and more constructs.

CON-structs are without connection to the information of LIFE and are the basis of all occults and esoterics, including Positive Canon Law and Ucadia. CON-structs include all read and write alphabet languages, mathematics and sacred geometry/geometry. None of the CON-Structs we think and feel have anything to do with reality/LIFE and have everything to do with distortion and destruction to LIFE. If you can't find the form of every thought and feeling you think and feel in the information of LIFE/nature, if your thoughts and feelings are not LIFE-sustainable, needing your LIFE to perform for them and maintain them, then you are thinking and feeling CON-structs and destruction to LIFE/nature. To return to being who we really are, we have to stop thinking and feeling CON-structs and start thinking and feeling the information of LIFE/nature. All CON-structs make slaves out of every man, woman and child who believe, serve and worship them. Please explore all our Facebook discussions posted here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 some of which go into this subject in great detail.

To recognise a construct, look for the substance to back it; where is the natural substance of One Heaven and Ucadia? Ask,.... would we all suffer if not fade-away and die if they did not exist? What do they do for LIFE that aids LIFE in rolling along here and now? Where are their ancestors buried? Where do their children play? Where do they live so we can visit and have a chat with them? Does anything natural in LIFE depend on their existence, their LIFE, to exist? Do we have to rely on invisible, third party spiritual beings for information which is passed down to us through third party men and women to comprehend One Heaven and Ucadia?

Another topic discussed with Frank was the Song of LIFE; Frank talks about the need for all cultures to sing the song of earth and life to bring us all together. While we agree that there is a Song of LIFE, we are talking about the Song of LIFE that is the song of the living creator, made up of all the thoughts and feelings (not negative, destructive emotions) of the living creator that make up the dream of LIFE. This song is LIFE sustainable because it IS LIFE. It is the DNA of LIFE that is all LIFE and is made up of the sounds of LIFE that are not sounds found in any of the information of "The System", including sounds made by CONstructed musical instruments following mathematical scores. Beware the Song of LIFE that has words. The true Song of LIFE is the living word of LIFE, the true language of MANS tongue and the true image of the creator who embodied the dream of LIFE with the LIFE of the creator. The information of the Song of LIFE is something the Grand Architect was not able to work with because he was creating anti-LIFE rather than LIFE, which is why it is not to be found in his System. As for the substance of the Song of LIFE - we are the substance of the Song of LIFE (if we remember who we really are) because we are the embodiment of the dream of the living creator.

The breaking down of civilisation is getting the majority to stop thinking and feeling (believing in) the information that forms the old civilisation, so they can walk away from it and into the new system on offer from the powers that be, like sheep walking through open gates from one enclosure to the next. It's all about getting us to think and feel what the Powers that Be want us to think and feel, and manipulating us through seduction and temptation to get us to put our energy (power of LIFE) into these feelings and thoughts so we create a world (the new "System") in the image of the powers that be without ever realising that the new system does not have our, and the next 100 generations to come, best interests at heart.

The Powers that Be have to use the truth to get people to break away from the old system so that they learn to walk into the new system because most men and women, especially those searching for truth and freedom, recognise the truth when they see, hear and feel it. Those promoting the new system are not necessarily "baddies", just good people with good intentions who are being used to ensure that the new system is just the old system in shiny, new wrapping paper. Many who work for "The System" are controlled by remote projection from those at the very top and are totally unaware that their thoughts and ideas are not always their own. A lot of these people are targeted young for their intellectual brilliance and prepared for their roles in "The System" even if it takes those preparing them 30 to 40 years to do so. We have written about this and will be writing more - again see “We Are The Life Of The Dream Of Life”: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7417. We are not claiming that Frank O'Collins is a baddie, just that he is a product of years of "The Systems" brainwashing that teaches him (among others) to believe (put his energy/power of LIFE) in the CON-structs that are the basis of all demonology which are all the fairytales that we are performing in and giving LIFE to. We do, however, feel that he is sincere in his work.

So, by all means learn all you can about Canon Law and perhaps it will help some of you get "The System" off your back, especially if its goons are breathing down your necks, but don't say we didn't warn you when you realise it is just "The System" in another guise. We will certainly let everyone know what happens with the Ecclesiastical Deed Poll. Just REMEMBER, pieces of paper and CON-structs are dead and can do nothing without the LIFE force energy of living, breathing man and women. If Canon Law works, it is because the men and women of "The System" are ALLOWING it to work. "The System" is nothing without our energy and we have the power to put our LIFE force energy into "The System" or into LIFE and, if we choose LIFE, there is nothing those of "The System" can do to stop us.

Above the prescripted medication and sedatives that is the fog of paperwork, words and numbers, we are dealing with men and women whose ancestors murdered hundreds of millions and who will murder more millions to get what they want but ONLY if we accept what they tell us and fall into their game plan. They think they can take on LIFE and defeat LIFE, keeping just enough LIFE to maintain their System. What they don't realise is that no one can take on LIFE and win and, the more destruction they cause to LIFE, the more their curses will come back to them. A distortion cannot cure a distortion. With billions now thinking and feeling distorted images, we are creating LIFE in this image and there is nowhere for this distortion to go but LIFE because LIFE, which we are, is all there is.

Frank talks about how those behind “The System” deflect their curses into money but money is still a fiction that has no LIFE force. Eventually the curses will come back and the only way for LIFE to absorb them is by taking them into earth in the physical form of a FEVER, as in numerous, massive earthquakes, tidal waves, volcanoes, cyclones, tornadoes, floods and other "natural" disasters, just as our body has a FEVER when sick with distortion, with diarrhoea, other explosive bowl motions, vomit, sweating, mucus flow, shaking, disorientation, etc. Collectively, through pure and sincere feelings, thoughts, words and deeds which Do No Harm to LIFE, we can quickly heal the curses (the distortion), otherwise, shortly, the Earth's FEVER will come and go unexpectedly across Earth for weeks on end to heal the distortion. Earth FEVER mirrors the distortion of MANS negative destructive emotions, thoughts and deeds. We are already experiencing locust swarms and the disruption of nature with bees disappearing and fish dying off. There is nowhere the cursers can hide. The fever of their making will complete the cycle of curses, transmuting the cause. LIFE is tenacious and far tougher than “The System”. Whatever happens, LIFE will be triumphant.

"The System" has to have its "Good Guys" and its "Bad Guys". Only the good guys can usher in the new system because if all the enclosures of "The System" were seen to be controlled by the bad guys from all sides, people would revolt against it. The people have to believe they are part of what is good and then they will do everything to protect their enslavement and the enclosures of "The System" that enslaves them.

The real system is the system of LIFE that is who we are and what we are part of. Our true purpose is to co-create LIFE with all other LIFE forms of LIFE, doing no harm to LIFE because, while we do harm to LIFE, we are destroying who we are and what we are really part of. We are the gift of LIFE and the information of LIFE that each of us is, is our unique gift for LIFE. However, if the information we share is distorted because of our brainwashing by "The System", all we can create is distortion. The great challenge for all of us is to learn to recognise which of our thoughts and feelings are "The Systems'" distortions and which are the true, sincere thoughts and feelings of LIFE.

“A lot of efforts have been made to distort past reality. The possibility of distortion arises when Man abandons his own reasoning powers and forms constructs of the past based on somebody else’s words and conclusions.” Anastasia - Ringing Cedars of Russia series: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1125 and http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3641 - LIFE is information. When we distort Nature and then eat, drink, absorb, think, feel, hear, see, touch, taste, smell and perform these distortions, stress over these distortions, work, live, dream and play with these distortions, the information of LIFE, your LIFE, our LIFE, our children's lives, everyone's LIFE, is distorted - Arthur Cristian.

So, we continue our call to Kindom, Do No Harm Communities of Conscious Men, Women and Children, Truly Free, No Beliefs, No Ownership, No Ones Sheep Nor Shepherd, Taking Full Responsibility for our Feelings, Thoughts and Actions.

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
18th October 2010

The Cristian Family November 2006

Re-Presenting Is The Pull Of Duality
Into False Consciousness

Unravelling Lies And Liars
And The Remedy To The Lies

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

19th April 2011

This article is about what we feel is the kernel of the heartfelt-inspired insights we have been unravelling from outside-the-square over the past six years. We have spent thousands of hours sifting through the information we have come across, keeping that which we find to be truth and discarding that which is lies, until we have been able to simplify everything down to a remedy that does not require hours of reading law dictionaries and memorising Laws, Acts and Statutes. It does not require knowledge of how to prepare and file legal documents.

What we share in this article can be used to unravel all the lies we have been fed and to step out of "The System" to freedom. Once anyone can comprehend this information and is inspired, they can apply it in whatever area they are working with, whether religion, law or whatever, so long as they are unwavering in their determination to see their objective through. They will be able to prove that all men are equal and that no one has authority over another, and to make right what has been made wrong, particularly if they have a large, strong force of committed men and women beside them, to stand up to brute force tactics.

Applying this information successfully, we will be able to free innocent men and women from jail and release others from the grip of harm-doers seeking to rape, pillage and plunder their fruits of labour while exhausting their LIFE-force-energy. This approach will only work for those who are prepared to take full responsibility for LIFE and are not looking for something of "The System", i.e. financial gain, which will only keep them in "The System". This method will not work for those who have motives of greed and selfishness, power and control, self-centered glory and righteousness. It only works with love.

This information can be used to discern whether new information is truth or lies. The real purpose of this work is to enable men and women to pull out of "The System" altogether and not be sucked into another one. To keep this article as brief as possible we have provided links below to seven recent Facebook discussions/debates and links to articles which collectively expand on the themes we touch on in great detail. We also want to thank three friends, Tom, Glen & Raymond, who shared some key insights with us over the past six years. They provided missing pieces to a very large puzzle we finally completed late last year.

Arthur and Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

Re-Presenting Is The Pull Of Duality
Into False Consciousness

Learning To Re-present

We are so accustomed to re-presenting, learning how to do it from an early age, that we do it automatically, without awareness or comprehension of what we are doing. From the stories we are read to the belief systems we are indoctrinated into, we learn to place what is not real over what is real and to give up our uniqueness for a fairytale character within "The System". Thus when little Mary is looking at pictures of Alice in Wonderland while mum reads the story over & over again, Mary is learning to re-present someone she is not. She starts playing the game. When little Peter plays Superman, he is re-presenting someone he is not. This may seem harmless enough - the children are using their imaginations and having fun BUT, while they are in fantasy, they are not experiencing the real world and, once we learn this behaviour, we continue our fantasy life into adulthood although the fantasy characters we portray change as our scenarios change as we grow. It is this behaviour that keeps us apart and in conflict with each other because we are in conflict with who we really are and the real world we are part of. When we learn to re-present a Christian, a Muslim, a Frenchman, an Icelandic woman, a New Ager, a politician, a democrat, a lawyer, etc, we are being someone we are not and re-presenting a fictitious character in "The System".

The Baggage

So strongly do we identify with the characters that we are re-presenting, that we will hurt our brothers and sisters of LIFE before we will give them up. So the Jews fight the Arabs, the Americans fight the Iraqis, citizens fight the Bar and government, politicians of one party fight with the politicians of another party and fans of opposing football teams fight with each other. See how we are kept apart by this baggage? And baggage it is, baggage that we can let go of if we choose and baggage that we have to let go of if we are ever to get together and co-create a world of peace, joy, freedom, truth, abundance and do no harm for ALL. This baggage makes us greedy, selfish, suspicious, uncooperative, ignorant, arrogant, righteous and harmful. It blinkers us from ever seeing clearly what needs to be done to create the world of love we all dream of. Even amongst those of the freedom-truth movement who are supposed to be fighting for a just, free world, there is bickering, back-stabbing and enmity with feuds amongst different factions.

We Won't Let Go Of The Baggage

Let's have a look at what happens when we ask Mary and Peter to stop playing and get ready for bed; first they ignore us - they don't want to slip out of fantasy back to reality. Then, when we persist, they resist; "I don't want to stop playing!" "I don't want to go to bed!". They may get really upset, throwing a tantrum and hurling abuse, "I hate you, Mummy!", and even physically lashing out, so much do they want to continue in their fantasy world, being the fantasy figure of their choice in the fantasy story of their choice. The same thing happens when, as adults, we are asked to question our belief systems; "Give up my religion? No way!" "Let go of years of research into the legal system? No way!" "Give up booze and meat pies? No way!" "Give up slavery? No way!" "I want my Common Law!" "I want my Law Degree!" "I want my trial by jury!" "I want my constitution!" " I want my democracy!", etc, etc.

We cling on to what we have been taught to re-present even if there is clear evidence that the way we are living is causing destruction to LIFE that is who we are. We would literally rather die and cause the death of all LIFE forms of LIFE than give up our belief systems. Our addictions to baggage are so strong that we will resist truth and get angry, attacking those who show us truth and even maiming and killing our brothers and sisters of LIFE to defend our addictions. It is the baggage doing the attacking because their baggage is all they have to offer and the baggage is who they have become. Are we any different from Mary and Peter clinging to their fantasy characters? The baggage we have become includes our "self", whose needs and desires we are enslaved to and our system "person/strawman" whose responsibilities in "The System" we have to fulfil.

From early childhood, from Alice and Superman, we move onto pre-school and then school and perhaps university where we are given more and more stories to re-present, more fantasy to become addicted to and more and more information that is not of LIFE to place over LIFE in the name of politics, science, evolution, religion, spirituality, consciousness, the cosmos, etc, until we have forgotten how to connect with the reality of LIFE any more. Everything of the real world has been labelled in many different ways by the information of "The System" and our heads are so busy re-presenting this man-made out-of-thin-air information that we are unable to feel, hear, see, touch, taste or smell the natural, pure and sincere information of LIFE that each LIFE form is offering us unconditionally for free. Most of our waking life, most of the thoughts in our head are not thoughts of LIFE but are thoughts of "The System" and we form crowds, flocks and groups with others who like re-presenting the same "system" thoughts as we do and resist mixing with those who re-present other "system" thoughts. Thus we are divided and ruled, burdened by the growth of baggage that becomes us. "The System" is the baggage that has become all of us.

With every re-presentation that we enact, there is both the scenery and the character we are acting in that imagining that occurs only between our ears - nowhere else is this occurring, be it a story about relativity, darkness, time, money, the universe, other worlds or quantum physics. We are superimposing this fiction over LIFE just as Mary turns the family dining table into the setting for the Mad Hatters Tea Party. When we focus on 1, 2 or 3 or a, b, or c or that Mars is a planet, for example, we can't bring forward 1, 2 or 3 or a, b or c or Mars or compass, square, universe, law or magnetic north to back our claims that they exist. We are just re-presenting fiction that is the thoughts of other men & women that we echo as re-presenters. Our brains are like film projectors and the re-presentation information is what we are re-creating through the projection of these thoughts that we superimpose over LIFE just as little Mary re-presents wonderland over the real world.

Getting to grips with the way we re-present everything of "The System" of baggage is the key to our escape from the enslavement of "The System". Recognising that "The System" is a copy of LIFE, a shadow, that has been placed over LIFE and needs our LIFE-energy to appear to exist is how we discern what is truth and what is not. Is what we are feeling or experiencing of LIFE? Can we feel it, see it, smell it, touch it, hear it and taste it? Does it have purity and sincerity? Does it still have the presence of LIFE present? Is it LIFE sustainable, meaning, is it free, not needing our LIFE-energy, the fruits of our labour, to live? Or does it need us to interact with it, to start it, stop it, manufacture it, mine it, process it, explain it, manage it, enforce it, build it, repair it and believe it. Everything that is not of LIFE and is not LIFE sustainable is fraud and it is this fraud, this re-presenting, that creates the duality that is the basis of all belief systems of "The System".

How We Accept The Lies Of Duality

Re-presenting the thought of God is lying. The God of the thought of God does not exist and therefore is not God. Living creator exists because its presence of LIFE is present amongst us, here and now. Mary re-presenting Alice in Wonderland does not make Alice or Wonderland real either. Only Mary is present with the presence of LIFE and she has to re-present Alice and Wonderland because they are not present to LIFE and are both without the presence of LIFE. This is duality. This is baggage. Mary has become a slave to Alice and Wonderland and has to re-present these thoughts to give them her LIFE so they can temporarily have the illusion of being real. But they will never have the presence of LIFE to be present amongst the living, amongst what is real. They are not LIFE-sustainable.

All forms of duality are satanic; Mary is real but Alice isn't. This is duality. Satanism is the practise of creating fairytales, the baggage, and then hijacking men, women and children to fall into those fairytales so that they give their power away to them so they can be ruled by the rulers in the fairytale. Satanism is getting men, women and children to shoulder burdens of baggage so that they limp through LIFE weighed down, enslaved and under the standing of the inventors and rulers of the baggage.

Satanism is the practise of duality, i.e. heaven and hell or we are tiny aspects of a universe at the effect of greater forces than us or we are all on a journey heading from somewhere to somewhere. These ideas are lies. They do not have the presence of LIFE present. Because the believers in heaven and hell have been brainwashed to accept and believe in the hierarchies of archangels down to cherubs in heaven and the authority of the devil in hell, they accept the hierarchies of "The System". They agree to be ruled over by the re-present-atives of hell. They accept judges, priests, Police Officers and other "authority figures" as having authority and standing over them here and now. Those who are "good", law abiding, compliant and peaceful citizens of their faith go to heaven while those who are "bad" and break the rules of their faith go to hell. In "The System", those who are "good", law abiding, compliant and peaceful citizens of "The System" are "allowed" to earn their money, buy their houses and live unmolested by the enforcers of "The System" while those who are "bad" feel the full force of the enforcers of "The System". They have been so familiarised with their chosen fairytale that they view their lives through their beliefs, just as little Mary turns her home, garden and family into scenery and props for her performance of the Alice in Wonderland fairytale.

As Above So Below Is The Duality Of Baggage

All Satanic thoughts are without the pure and sincere substance of LIFE. All substance is SENSE because it has LIFE, is LIFE-sustainable, and its presence of LIFE is always present amongst us. Alice and Wonderland are NON-SENSE while Mary isn't. Yes, she is presently lost in a fairytale but Mary has pure and sincere senses of LIFE; sight, sound, touch, taste, feel and smell - it is just that she is forgetting to use them all here and now. Mary is caught up in a world of thought without sense embodied. This satanic practise is often referred to as the "worship of the intellect" which is at the core of all Freemasonic teachings. Mary believes that Alice and Wonderland exist, even though she cannot experience them here and now with all her senses of LIFE. As Alice and Wonderland are without sense, Mary has to act on their behalf, use her sense, to re-present them. Mary's performance of Alice and Wonderland is based in non-sense. Mary will never be able to bring forward Alice or Wonderland to back her claim that Alice or Wonderland exists. All satanic thoughts are without the presence of LIFE to be present amongst us, the living.

Bible believers claim the bible is the living word of God but they are unable to bring forward their God to back their claims here and now. Just as little Mary's Alice always remains invisible so does the God of the bible believers. We say: "Hello God, can you please come forward to back John and Rachael's claims. We want to touch, taste, see, smell and feel you while we hear your tongue confirm John and Rachael's claims." Because John and Rachael are unable to bring forward their God to back their beliefs, their claims default back to them as fraudsters. They are both impersonating a God so they can, acting as impostors of a God, place their claims and their lives on to a higher standing than other men, women & children. This means they are both re-presenting a God of NON-SENSE. This non-sense is causing conflict and chaos between other men and women, of equal standing, caught in the crossfire of John and Rachael spreading their righteousness all-around. John and Rachael have been dumbed down by the baggage of a God that has become them. Due to non-sense, they are incapable of seeing the harm they are causing and spreading all around and they are unable to take full-responsibility for stopping the harm.

The same thing occurs in "The System" where the clergy, judges, politicians and law enforcement officers, etc, all believe that they have authority over those who do not have those titles. They are re-presenting NON-SENSE, especially when there is a maxim of law that states, "All men are equal before the law"! And those who go to the courts or accept Police, lawyers and barristers telling them what to do also believe in this imagined authority. It works both ways. We support the Wonderland structures that enslave us and even fight to keep them or strengthen them. But where is democracy? Where is Court? Where is Common Law? Who can bring them forward for us all to experience with our senses and hear from them, first party to first party, the proof that they have authority over us? All they can bring forward is a man, woman or child to back their claim. Again, this is re-presenting non-sense for the purpose of power and control. This is all duality. This is a continuation of the baggage. All fairytales/non-sense is baggage.

The challenge is to become detached from duality so that we can see it for what it really is. The duality of non-sense only exists as part of belief systems and our belief in duality keeps us locked in our belief systems - without belief systems, there is no duality, there is no baggage, there is no re-presenting non-sense.

As someone wrote to us recently through Facebook after reading our articles and Facebook discussions/debates, "I am aware how duality comes in all its many forms only to keep us going back and forth almost like a dog chasing its own tail. Around and around we go and every time we go around the bend, we don't recognise that we've been down that road before. The same old thing, just a different dressing to make it new and improved, only to be had once more. But good news is I, like others, have caught on."

The Belief Systems Of Duality (baggage)

These belief systems of duality are the spells woven by the "We Will Lead Every Revolution Against Us" men and women of "The System". In order to keep us enslaved to "The System", they have to convince us that "The System" is changing and that we are responsible for making some of those changes. Those behind "The System" provide us with the chaos of "The System" and then offer us the remedy to the chaos. They have all bases covered and we fall for their spells, attaching our fiction "selves" to the remedies they offer, not realising that no remedy with or of "The System" will give us freedom. Hence the effect of the dog chasing its tail; the remedy we pour our energy into only continues our enslavement. We are the ones with the power of co-creation so the world we see around us is what we are responsible for creating. When those behind "The System" trick us into thinking the thoughts they want us to think, we oblige by creating the world in the image of those thoughts. Those behind "The System" even provide physical/material "evidence" to support those thoughts. They are black-magic masters of deception, remote projection, remote viewing and remote control and we, unwittingly, fall for their thoughts. Not conscious of our gift for co-creation, our true power, our brains, is being used against us.

It is hard to comprehend that the baggage of "The System" is in nearly every area of our lives. The moment we stop doing what is natural to LIFE and start re-presenting what we have been taught by "The System", we are weighing our lives down with more baggage. When we process/cook food and liquids, this is baggage. When we kill and eat flesh and blood creatures, this is baggage, When we worship false idols, this is baggage. When we cause pain and trauma in others, this is baggage that they then start re-presenting and carry as baggage. It is no wonder that there are so many unhappy, lonely, frightened, distrustful people around, carrying both the baggage they have been taught by "The System" and the baggage of others that has been pushed onto them. Even the read and write alphabet languages that we read and speak, all the mathematics, geometry and all university courses and careers add to the baggage. It is all stuff that we have to re-present, meaning that we don't have much LIFE any more. We are totally bogged down being slaves, almost totally disconnected from LIFE.

The Baggage Continues

So immersed are we by the baggage that some of us even work against our brothers and sisters of LIFE to maintain the baggage. Throughout the freedom, truth, consciousness, health, education, science, New Age, spiritual & all alternative movements are intelligence agents whose job is to make sure that we are not putting down our burdens of baggage. Some we think are friends and on our side. Some we've known for years and have worked together with. "We Will Lead Every Revolution Against Us" - they get to know our thoughts, who we are talking too, the groups that we are part of or the new groups/grass-root-movements we are creating with others and the true intentions behind them. They get to know what our plans and dreams are, what we eat and drink, when we sleep, where we socialise, what we like and dislike, how we feel and how we think. They get to know almost everything about us because we let them into our private lives and accept them when they set themselves up as trusted leaders/shepherds/influential guides of their flocks.

The tactics they use to get us to trust them are brilliant but very predictable once you become conscious of them. They may be thrown in jail and roughed up, picked on by Police, done over in court, etc. Things are not what they seem. "If they can get you to think what they want you to think and get you to put your LIFE-energy into these thoughts & feelings, you will create that world (their world). Slaves willingly create a world in their masters image without realising." The deception is far deeper than most realise.

Not only are these agents both the "good guys" and the "bad guys", they often also create scenes between them, getting their followers to "take sides" and thus be still more divided. See this link for an example: Dr Len Horowitz Talking About Benjamin Fulford - web.mac.com/len15/Newsletter_&_Blog/Knighting_Controversy.html - Knighting Controversy - AFFIDAVIT AND TESTIMONY OF DR. LEONARD HOROWITZ REGARDING THE MURDER OF JOURNALIST EDWARD HARLE INVOLVING AGENT-PROVOCATUERS AND CO-CONSPIRATORS BENJAMIN FULFORD, GREG SZYMANSKI, AND OTHERS LINKED TO LIBEL AND A PLOT TO ASSASSINATE DR. LEONARD HOROWITZ

These intelligence agents then report all information back to their central intelligence networks which filter the information back to the Levite priests who control all sides of everything in "The System", their "system of systems", their enclosure of many enclosures, their mazes within many mazes, their matrix, their fairytales. As we said "We Will Lead Every Revolution Against Us". Whose thoughts are we thinking and most importantly, who benefits long-term through our compliance to these thoughts? By knowing our thoughts, they control the outcomes to suit their agenda.

Change Agents Of Baggage

Not only are the intelligence agents the leaders of their fields, they are also men and women who work across the internet in forums and social networks to discredit and bring down those who are pure and sincere in the inspiration to co-create freedom for ALL. These agents send abusive attacks and character assassinations. They try to emotionally manipulate their targets and those they are in contact with to break down bonds that are forming between them. Many of these agents are themselves controlled remotely by the Levite Priests and their lackeys through Black Magic. In "The System", this manipulation occurs in every area of life; there is nowhere the presence of this satanic agenda is not present. It is all pervasive. And those managing the network of the Satanic agenda are the higher Freemasonic orders, the henchmen of the Levite Priests that are above the "benevolent", lower levels of Freemasonry. This is all more baggage.

Having a man-made "system" with currentcy, laws, governments, etc, requires slavery. It is impossible to have a man-made "system" without having slavery. Currentcy, insurance, commerce, laws, governments, rulers, law enforcement, etc, do not exist and are of duality. There is the presence of MAN whose flesh lives and blood flows present amongst us and then there is currentcy, insurance, commerce, laws, governments, rulers, law enforcement, etc, which do not exist, requiring MAN to re-present them. There are billions of slaves presently amongst us.

A copy of LIFE is the shadow world that is the man-made darkness. The Freemasonic world rules over the shadow world. Re-presenting forms the shadows that disconnect us from who we really are and what we are really part of, from each other, all other LIFE forms of LIFE and our true purpose. Just as the Obelisk in Washington DC is erected over water so that it has a reflection, "The System" is just a poor reflection of LIFE. Why do you think the obelisk was placed there? They always show us the truth but they do not teach us how to recognise it. We are being ruled by the shadows of our own projections. Mary's Alice is a shadow.

How They Keep Us Apart

The freedom truth information is already showing up as not working. We are hearing of more and more cases of men and women using this information still being evicted from their homes and of many other cases where those of "The System" are ignoring their own laws just to ensure that we remain enslaved and that no precedents are set that could free us all. This situation is true to one of the tactics of the change agents of "The System" whereby they raise our hopes by seeming to have remedies, only to dash down those hopes when the remedies don't work. The mantra is always, "We can't beat "The System"".

All the supposed roads to freedom are whitewashed/white-anted. Men and women waking up become aware of their enslavement, look for the way out and are overjoyed when the "good guy" of "The System" comes along, seeming to have all the answers. Like a shepherd to his flock, he leads them along to what they think is freedom but is actually only another enclosure of "The System". The methods that should work don't work and, slowly, the men and women realise that they have not found freedom after all. They try again but each new enclosure is still in "The System" and they are still enslaved.

Those behind "The System" do have a remedy planned for the problems we are all experiencing and it will be one that most will jump at because it will sound wonderful, erasing all debt and other enticements of that nature. However, it will not be freedom but just a new version of the current system, a New World Order (NWO) system wrapped in shiny paper with sparkling ribbons but still backed by the same force only, this time, the force will be stronger and more pervasive and our "rights" will be fewer and we will be even more under control than we are now. We will jump at it because nothing seems to be working; all the remedies are failing, life in "The System" is getting harder and harder, we are working longer and longer hours and seeing our families less and less. Earth is becoming more and more polluted and we are becoming sicker and sicker. Why wouldn't we jump at a remedy that seems to offer relief from all this suffering? We will be on our knees and delighted when the Chosen One of "The System" comes along to wipe out all our worries.

The NWO is not the present chaos led by the "bad guys" with their police state, forced vaccinations, global warming, wars, terrorism, injustice, loss of rights and freedoms, etc, the NWO is the remedy to this chaos led out front by the "good guys". Both the "bad guys" and the "good guys" all come from one of the thirteen Ancient Egyptian Freemasonic "orders" (13 lost tribes of IS RA EL) spread out across Earth.

As we have written many, many times, the only remedy to our situation is to form do no harm communities where we take care of each other and nature. Those behind "The System" also know that this is the only way we will cause a mass exodus from "The System" and away from their clutches, so do you think they are going to let us set up communities without trying to have some sort of influence? Of course not. We have noticed that some of the leaders in the freedom truth movement are starting to talk about community as a remedy. If they are pure and sincere in their intent, this is great. However, some of them are there to set these communities up for failure down-the-line, to show us that we cannot get together and overcome our baggage. The baggage everyone brings to community destroys it and the change agents know this which is why they don't teach everyone how to let go of all the baggage. If necessary, they will also infiltrate communities to bring about their downfall by stirring up problems and creating divisions. This is easily dealt with if we are forming our communities with pure and sincere information driven by the intent for purity and sincerity in everything we think, feel and do but they will no doubt have some success with communities that are not prepared for this tactic of destruction. We do not want to be sucked into re-presenting the "as above, so below" duality that will have us be enslaved in the next version of "The System", the NWO.

Why Re-Presenting?

So why all the effort to teach us to re-present?

Those behind "The System" need our energy and our belief to keep "The System" intact and active. Without us, there is nothing. Without Mary there is no Alice or Wonderland to re-present. They need us to be slaves to "The System", re-presenting/performing the constructs of "The System" and giving our power away to the black-magic masters of "The System". We are already of LIFE which is a natural "system", a way of co-creating with LIFE through SENSE that is natural to us. In order for us to forget our connections to LIFE and to abandon and destroy LIFE so that it no longer has the presence of LIFE present, we have to be taught from early childhood to put our energy into something other than LIFE, into the fake, contrived, man-made system of civilisation which we are taught to place over LIFE. As none of the constructs of "The system" have LIFE, if we do not put our LIFE energy into them, they are nothing. For those behind "The System" to keep the status quo of everything for them and crumbs for the rest of us, we need to be persuaded to maintain that situation for them.

We have been conned into living in a world of man-made constructs and there is not ONE construct (CON-struct) of "The System" that can be backed up by those who worship it because ALL constructs of "The System" exist nowhere but as fantasy, illusion and delusion between the ears. They are fraudulent ideas without LIFE that we must support and maintain, enslaving our lives in the process. If we are to escape "The System", we must be vigilant in routing out all the fraud. It is vital that we all scrutinise thoroughly ALL the information we come across rather than just accepting that which fits our belief system, and that we all learn to go where truth takes us if we are pure and sincere in our intent to co-create a world of peace, freedom, abundance, joy and Do No Harm for all.

LIFE is love and love is LIFE and we are the ones with LIFE/love. "The System" has no love/LIFE and so is nothing without the LIFE/love we put into it. In a community, it is the LIFE/love that we put into that community that sustains it.

Thought Without LIFE Are Not Real

The thought of God is not God just as the thought of Jesus, consciousness, love, peace, freedom, joy, abundance and do no harm for all are not Jesus, consciousness, love, peace, freedom, joy, abundance and do no harm for all. All dreams have a creator. Imagine the dream of LIFE is a bubble (a metaphor); Living-creator thought out the dream of LIFE in great detail, held all the thoughts that make up the whole of LIFE in focus and then put its LIFE into those thoughts to give LIFE to the dream of LIFE. The presence of Living creator is always present to everything Living-Creator created. If Living-Creator removed its LIFE from the dream of LIFE, the bubble, the dream of LIFE would fade away and die. TRUTH always has the presence of LIFE present (here & now). Truth is LIFE-sustainable and does not require MAN to be a slave for its existence. TRUTH always has SENSE (sight, sound, touch, taste, feel, smell) while lies are always based on NON-SENSE.

LIFE is the LIFE of Living-Creator and is the living body of Living-Creator. All thoughts without the LIFE of Living-Creator present, are Satanic, and are fraud and lies. This is why we say the thought of God is not God, instead it is a dead God. It's when we give LIFE to thoughts that are LIFE-sustainable that they are real and LIFE-sustainable. LIFE is the Gift of LIFE. In paradise, every breath is a gift of LIFE, every drink of water is a gift of LIFE, every bite of raw-living food is a gift of LIFE, every step we make is a Gift of LIFE and is an act of co-creation with LIFE. Every thought given LIFE is sacred. We were all meant to be taking full-responsibility for everything we think, feel & do; unfortunately most don't because they have fallen into fairytales that have them lost and re-presenting lies. Mary, as Alice, does not want to take responsibility for the things she has to do as Mary in the real world. Mary has left it to others to take care of her responsibilities in the real world. This is what we are all doing in "The System"; we have forsaken our responsibility for LIFE and allowed others to make the decisions for us, which means that we now have rulers who take care of things provided we DO WHAT THEY SAY, i.e. be their slaves. "The System" is Wonderland for adults. It is impossible to have any man-made system without rulers and slaves. Re-presenting a system, cashless or not, requires slaves and rulers.

Re-presenting is the basis of "The System" and learning not to re-present is the basis of freedom from "The System". Re-presenting is at the heart of all religions, all occults and esoterics, all university courses and careers, all science, mathematics and read and write alphabet languages. It is the basis of all false prophets.

Waiting For Salvation

All dreams come with full responsibility and it is our role to take full responsibility for LIFE. However, we have leant to pass on that responsibility to false gods, prophets and laws and, in doing so, we have forsaken the dream of LIFE to the point where it is dying and we, as LIFE, are dying. Rather than face up to the mess we have created, we place all our hopes on someone, something, somehow, somewhere to solve everything for us. And there are plenty of false prophets willing to tell us that, if we just sit tight and hold on, everything will come out all right. See this example:

"Isa 25 (Stones - Hebrew text & NKV)
Yahweh will eliminate death forever, And YAHWEH will wipe away tears from all faces;
He will remove the shame of His people and the shame of His nation Israel for ever;
For YAHWEH has spoken.
Then he said to me: “Son of man, these bones are the people of Israel. They say, ‘Our bones are dried up and our hope is gone; we are cut off.’ And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, Some to everlasting life, (Some to shame and everlasting contempt. Those who are wise shall shine Like the brightness of the firmament, And those who turn many to righteousness Like the stars forever and ever.) And it will be said on that day: “Behold, this is our God; We have waited for Him, and He will save us. This IS YAHWEH; We have waited for Him; We will be glad and rejoice in His salvation.”"

This is Re-Presenting The Pull Of Duality Into False Consciousness

If 6 billion children were brought up in forests not exposed to "The System" or to anyone exposed to "The System", would they all know about Alice and Wonderland? Would they know about Yahweh? Would they all be re-presenting NON-SENSE or would they all be present to the presence of LIFE of Living-Creator and all equal team-players of LIFE, all taking full-responsibility for LIFE?

How many people are waiting for God, Jesus, Yahweh, the Prophet, the Galactic Federation, the White Brotherhood, the Asian Triad, Nesara, Maitreya, someone, anyone, to come along and make it all better with one whoosh of their magic wand? How many are waiting to be proven right; that their way was the right way and that they are among the chosen? This is all re-presenting NON-SENSE. Where is Yahweh? Why is Yahweh limited to time? Why is he invisible? If he is our father or whatever, why is he removed from us? Would parents erect barriers between them and their children? Can Yahweh appear before all of us so that we can all experience him with all our senses of LIFE? Can he move a mountain range 100 kilometres with us all watching? How will he stop us all thinking and feeling satanic thoughts and feelings? Are we puppets on a string? If we don't each have full-responsibility for LIFE then who and what are we? Where are his ancestors buried? Where do his children play? What is his address so we can visit to have a chat while having a bite to eat and a drink between us? Would we all suffer, if not fade away and die, if he did not exist? For more on this, see the Facebook discussions/debates referred to below.

Don't those waiting for their chosen prophet realise that freedom for one means freedom for all? That abundance for one is only possible when there is abundance for all? That do no harm for one is only possible when there is do no harm for all?

Even many of those who do not believe in a saviour still think of the "Universe" as something separate, greater and more powerful than them and that the "forces" of the Universe will sort things out and "right the balance" between light and dark, good and evil. This is still duality - light balanced by dark, good balanced by evil. Can they bring forward the universe to back their claim? Can they bring forward darkness? Is not what they call "universe" just part of the body of LIFE that we are? Is darkness not just the absence of light (LIFE/reality/sense)? LIFE is information, darkness is information and words like spirit and soul and light are information but does darkness have the presence of LIFE present amongst us? Or is darkness just another pretend shadow we made up just as Alice is a shadow of Mary's projection? SENSE is consciousness, is LIFE - NON-SENSE is unconsciousness, is death to LIFE - sense is information - non-sense is information and we become in the image of the information we put our LIFE-energy into and project.

All men are equal - this means that no one has authority over another and that all of us are equally responsible for LIFE. This also means that there is no almighty father figure with more power than any of us. Until we learn how not to be slaves or rulers or deceivers we will always have the problems we are experiencing now.

The Matrix


Written by Andy Wachowski & Larry Wachowski

Morpheus: I imagine that right now you're feeling a bit like Alice. Tumbling down the rabbit hole?

Neo: You could say that.

Morpheus: I can see it in your eyes. You have the look of a man who accepts what he sees because he's expecting to wake up. Ironically, this is not far from the truth. Do you believe in fate, Neo?

Neo: No.

Morpheus: Why not?

Neo: 'Cause I don't like the idea that I'm not in control of my life.

Morpheus: I know exactly what you mean. Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know, you can't explain. But you feel it. You felt it your entire life. That there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there. Like a splinter in your mind -- driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I'm talking about?

Neo: The Matrix?

Morpheus: Do you want to know what it is?

(Neo nods his head.)

Morpheus: The Matrix is everywhere, it is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window, or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work, or when you go to church or when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.

Neo: What truth?

Morpheus: That you are a slave, Neo. Like everyone else, you were born into bondage, born inside a prison that you cannot smell, taste, or touch. A prison for your mind.

(long pause, sighs)

Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself. This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back.

(In his left hand, Morpheus shows a blue pill.)

Morpheus: You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe.

(a red pill is shown in his other hand)

You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes.

(Long pause; Neo begins to reach for the red pill)

Remember -- all I am offering is the truth, nothing more.

(Neo takes the red pill and swallows it with a glass of water)

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Why was this film made? Why were we "allowed" to see so much of the "truth"? Because, while they show us the rabbit-hole, they don't show us the full extent of the rabbit-hole and how deep it really goes. They don't show us about re-presenting and how the only way out of the rabbit-hole is through our love, our gifts for LIFE and our willingness to come together with our brothers and sisters of LIFE for the benefit of LIFE. "The Matrix" is the feel-good, quick fix, the confirmation that all is not right with the world, without a way out or any responsibility required.

Have We Got What It Takes?

When we wake up to the fact that everything of "The System" is Wonderland and, however much fear and pressure is forced upon you by the actors in Wonderland, it is still Wonderland, you realise that nothing of benefit to LIFE can be found in Wonderland. Just as Mary has to pack up her game and join her family in the real world, so we have to have the courage to let go of Wonderland. We need to pack up all the costumes, throw away all the titles and everything else we are re-presenting and return to the real world. Wonderland is not a remedy to Wonderland; behind all the trickery and treachery there is only force and force cannot co-create a world of peace, freedom, truth, joy, abundance and do no harm for all.

We need to stop using their books and their laws and just show them the fraud. They can never prove that any of the constructs of "The System" exist; all they can bring forward is another man and they will never admit that all men are not equal. Exposing the fraud is the remedy to dealing with the law and is the way to solving all our issues. But ONLY if we are brave enough to give up our baggage and stop re-presenting the lies that keep us enslaved. If we go into the courts, we go in as living co-creators of LIFE. We do not go in to use their laws, their books or to partake in their rituals. We go in to expose the fraud and show that they have no authority or jurisdiction because they cannot bring forward any proof to back their claims that they do, just as we, who have created our own Alice and Superman to act in "The System", cannot bring forward Alice or Superwoman, only the living man or woman whose flesh lives and blood flows, the living-creator/living-co-creator.

When we have peeled away all the re-presenting baggage all that remains is LOVE FOR LIFE and, from being selfish, self-centred, greedy, fearful individuals (in-divide-u-all-s), clinging on to our beliefs and our possessions, we become like the rays of the sun, shining our love for life outwards for the benefit of LIFE, secure in the information that, as we pour all our LIFE into taking care of LIFE, so LIFE will take care of us. The thoughts of Living Creator given LIFE of Living Creator are the gift that we have. We can be present to those thoughts, to the pure and sincere information of LIFE, anywhere, throughout all our waking LIFE, if we chose to and if we are prepared to let go of the baggage that keeps us from being present to those thoughts. When we stop re-presenting the fear, trauma, distrust and indifference of "The System", we connect with the real dream of LIFE and experience (remember) the true working of the dream of LIFE and our natural inheritance as co-creators of LIFE.

When we take full responsibility for our baggage, we start to forgive instead of blaming, harming and dumping. We can forgive the men and women we are and forgive all the baggage and devastation we have caused to us, each other and nature. We realise that it is not about first or last, rich or poor, have or have not, but about taking care of the dream of LIFE so that it doesn't fade away and we don't fade away with it.

Even the masterminds of "The System" and their henchmen need to be forgiven because they too have been brainwashed, they were all once innocent babies. All the impure and insincere thoughts they send out are curses that cannot escape LIFE because LIFE is all there is. This is also true of all the impure and insincere thoughts we send out; they cannot escape LIFE and, in the end, they return to the maker but not before causing harm to LIFE. We can learn to stop thinking impure and insincere thoughts and stop sending out curses but we cannot stop others doing so. What we can do is not accept the curses of others, instead, sending them back to their maker. Forgiving those behind and of "The System" does not mean that we do not stand up to them or accept their curses, only that we forgive them even as we stand our ground. We need to break the Freemasonic/Satanic spell over those bound by the oath of death and thus break the perpetuation of this NON-SENSE. Most, if not all, are in fear of each others reprisals and missing out on sitting by the side of their Lord in their after-LIFE.

Communities Without Baggage

We are currently re-writing the Ten Steps Of Kindom (Freedom) in which we set out the steps to take in order to co-create Do No Harm Communities, Communities Without Baggage and, when we have found a venue and the support necessary, we will start running workshops based on the Ten Steps Of Freedom where we can all learn how to start letting go of our baggage and taking responsibility for our thoughts, feelings and actions.

Nothing can escape our making. We are responsible for everything we are experiencing around us and for everything being experienced by our brothers and sisters of LIFE. It is our thoughts and the energy we give them that is the world we are all experiencing here and now. Our thoughts cannot escape LIFE and are what is used to create the world we all experience here and now. All the natural disasters are created by us as well. All we learn from "The System" is how to do harm and all this harm is curses that we send out in the image of our thoughts.

Do No Harm communities are for those who want to stop creating and supporting the curses that are destroying LIFE, as well as providing a sanctuary for those fleeing "The System".

We already are LIFE, we already are unique and we already have everything we need for lives of freedom, truth, joy, abundance and do no harm for all. All we have to do is help each other remember how to create those lives. Individualised and alone, we will achieve nothing. Together, strong in our commitment and through love, we can do anything we aspire to.

As To Who Is The True Power Behind "The System"
This Post Will Provide You With A Lot Of Clues

Dealing With "Spells" And Their "Curses"
How To Handle Claims On Offer
From Those Of "The System"
Direct The Curses Back Onto The Makers
The Red Mass

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
15th February 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7900

Check Out The Disclaimer We Wrote October 2010


It was written in response to the one-heaven work of Frank O'Collins.
Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7500
We also posted it below.

Here Is An Example Into The Insights We Have

The Creators Standing
How To Handle The Courts of "The System"

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
14th January 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7777

Here Is A Current Matter Showing Clearly
How We Handle Representatives Of "The System"

Part Ten: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7500
Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office
:
Should We Be In Fear Of Those Who Claim To Protect Us?
"Roman Cult" Canon Law - Ecclesiastical Deed Poll
The Work Of Frank O'Collins - From 13th October 2010

In this series of posts scroll down to view the latest goings on and the documents we created to deal with the representatives of "The System". So many of their documents, letters, etc, are designed to deceive, trick and intimidate; note how on the last letter back from the SDRO says that "no further correspondence of this nature will be considered" but then there is a reference number at the bottom of their letter for replies!!!! Start asking lots and lots of questions. Point out when they do not answer your questions. Think everything through very clearly to work out what they are really saying in legalese. All their documents are written in legalese, not English. Since 2007, they have not wanted Arthur anywhere near their courts, so they use thugs/force to deal with us, providing no avenue for Arthur to enter their dread-world (fairytale) court (caught) system to confront their fraud. This may obviously change - lets wait and see.

7. For Documentation Of Harm Done By The Powers-That-Be And Their Representatives, Evidence Revealing How Victims Did Not Break The Peace, Caused No Crime or Harm, There Were No Injured Parties. Documenting Incontrovertible Evidence Demonstrating How The Powers That Be (PTB) And Their Lackeys Will Break All The Laws They Are Supposed To Uphold. They Will Kidnap, Intimidate, Terrorise, Rape, Pillage, Plunder And Lie And Take Responsibility For None Of It. All Part Of Their Tactics Of Using Fear And Trauma To Keep Us In Our Place. Relatives Of Those Under Their Radar Are Also Not Safe From Attack And Intimidation. All Starting From A $25 Fine For Not Voting And A $65 Fine For Not Changing A Dog Registration. We Do Not Have Freedom And Can Only Appear To Have Freedom If We Comply. Regardless How Small The Matter The PTB Throw Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars Away To Enforce Their Will....

Go Here: Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office
Part One to Part Ten - From 17th October 2008 And Still Continuing
: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6319
or
Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office
Part One: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5742 - From 17th October 2008
Part Two: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6135 - From 18th December 2008
Part Three: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6295 - From 9th January 2009
Part Four: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6296 - From 14th January 2009
Part Five: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6375 - The Sick Puppy - From 20th February 2009
Part Six: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6390 - Police Officers, Sheriff’s Officers, Tow Truck Driver and State Debt Recovery Office Blatantly Ignore the Law To Rape, Pillage and Plunder The Private Property Of Fiona Cristian - From 11th March 2009
Part Seven: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6445 - Affidavit Of Truth - Letter To The Queen + Australia: Fascism is Corporatism - From 30th March 2009
Part Eight: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6652 - The Pirates Auction And The Ghost Of VSL386 - From 4th April 2009
Part Nine: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7073 - Arthur Cristian's Letter To Pru Goward MP - From 15th December 2009
Part Ten: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7500 - Should We Be In Fear Of Those Who Claim To Protect Us? "Roman Cult" Canon Law - Ecclesiastical Deed Poll - The Work Of Frank O'Collins - From 13th October 2010

The End

ManMade Systems Do Nothing To Address Our Displacement From Land

To us, none of the sciences, education, university courses and careers, read and write alphabet languages, mathematics, rules-of-law, governments, politics, "ancient history", discoveries, occults, esoterics, religions, etc, found in any of these man-made "systems", do anything to address the problem of our displacement from land, in fact they are distractions that only serve to maintain the status quo of "The System", the haves and the have nots, the slaves and the masters, and the continued devastation of nature. Unless they make the sun shine, are required for nature to exist, put food on the table and clean water in the rivers and seas, and stopping all harm to Life including MAN, they are not of interest to us. Remedy to the problems of "The System" is our interest and, to us, endless discussions about law, science, religion, etc, do nothing to bring about the remedy of Do No Harm Communities (Kindoms), which we have also written so much about. Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life -

Email communication from yesterday & today

On 23/06/2011 1:40 AM, Todd Sekulich wrote:

Todd sent a message using the contact form at http://loveforlife.com.au/contact.

hi there guys,

First of all I would like to say I am absolutely bedazzled by the extent and depth of your research and writing. Especially in association with human-made laws. Thank you very much for all your work, it is an inspiration.

I am undertaking research for a book and I have a couple of questions I would like to pose.

I see that you claim that all government departments of Australia are private US corporations. I found a small handful, including the COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA on the US Securities Exchange website. Would you be kind enough to point me towards your sources in regards to the rest of the departments?

Secondly, I notice that you support creationism and geocentricity. I am unbiased and open to all possibilities regarding this. I have a couple of questions surrounding some claims on your site. First of all you are claiming the earth is not round (well scientists acknowledge a bulge due to centrivocal force at the equator but we otherwise know earth as a sphere). So my question is this, as we have photographic evidence of the earth being round, can you please explain this evidence and why you do not believe it?

Could you also please explain our observations of shadowing on the earths surface also supporting a round earth? And could you also explain why the other planets we observe are spheres, inherently consistent with Newton's Laws, yet the earth is not and is therefore the non-spherical shape you propose?

Next, I notice that it seems that you are claiming that the Bible is a technical authority in a literal sense. Yet this would ignore the allegorical nature of it. Am I wrong in interpreting the bible as allegorical? If so, how and why? Also, if the authors of the bible were holders of divine knowledge, why did they not more clearly and succinctly open this knowledge to the wider populace? "Do not throw pearls before swine" ??

I have many more questions, but I will leave just one more train of thought as not to inundate you all. If we have an intelligent creator, and I believe that that is a possibility, then must the creator not have a creator? And following from that, who would that creator be? And how and why has our creator made so many erroneous decisions, such as having people born with a hole in their heart, our excretory organs being intermingled with our reproductive organs, our inability to detect radiation and other harmful frequencies and/or matter, our need to be comatose for close to one third of our existence, and the list goes on and on. Just wondering what your take on this is?

I appreciate you taking the time to read this.

Kind Regards
Todd

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On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Love For Life Campaign action@loveforlife.com.au wrote:

Hello Todd
Thanks for writing to us.

We suggest you read this article

Re-Presenting Is The Pull Of Duality
Into False Consciousness
Unravelling Lies And Liars
And The Remedy To The Lies

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
19th April 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8129

a few times over, contemplating on all the information we share and then follow the links provided within this article (keep scrolling down you will find more - check the one on Gravity - they are now posted below as well in this email) and start reading and contemplating on all the information we share in all the Facebook discussion/debates we had.

Doing this will give you a much better insight and clarity into our thinking helping you to comprehend where we are at and heading, etc. This may take you a few weeks or so in your spare time, maybe much longer, but once you fully comprehend what we are actually saying and where we are coming from you are most welcome to write back again to cover old and new questions that have not been answered for you thus far.

Also recommend reading many of the recent & current Facebook posts (headers provided below - some or many of our comments overlap/are-duplicated between these discussions) on Arthur's Wall: http://facebook.com/arthurcristian - It's open for anyone to view and post comments. If you want to become a FB friend just ask and post a message about this email correspondence between us.

What you might find in reading these posts/articles, particularly the many Facebook discussions/debates, is our determination to explore as many avenues as possible that evoke the re-using of SENSE which helps people to re-connect with reality (SENSE) again. To start using their brains to connect with SENSE which helps them to reconnect with nature/earth/life/reality/SENSE while at the same time helping them to learn how to recognise NON-SENSE information in all its forms and exploring the many ways of how to walk away from giving their life-force-energy to NON-SENSE. This causes a massive shift in consciousness, which really is just a pealing away of the onion rings of bullshit to reveal who they really are, that was forgotten about, buried underneath all the NON-SENSE. By remembering who they really are what they are really part of and their true purpose for Life, they will be determined to walk away from supporting all forms of harm-doing which includes being lost in fantasy, illusion and delusion (all of NON-SENSE). Through the use of SENSE, many of us will start co-creating Do No Harm Communities (Kindoms) which leads us and our descendants back to a Paradise in the SENSE-ory image of our making.

Our main focus which absorbed most of our waking Life since March 2005 was in the creation of a remedy that brings an everlasting peace, freedom, truth, joy, abundance and do no harm to all of life without the need for slaves and rulers and without loss of uniqueness. We have fulfilled this dream and are now re-writing the Ten Steps Of Kindom. Regardless how compromised we all are by "The System", we are now putting in to motion the walk-the-talk that inspires the co-creation of a Kindom involving hundreds of families, couples, etc. This is all about a mass exodus from "The System" back to nature.

and these ones

Dealing With "Spells" And Their "Curses"
How To Handle Claims On Offer
From Those Of "The System"
Direct The Curses Back Onto The Makers
The Red Mass

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
15th February 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7900

The Creators Standing
How To Handle The Courts of "The System"

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
14th January 2011
Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7777

Awakening To Paradise - Part One To Part Seven
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
16th to 22nd January 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7805

Ruled By Numbers - The Anti Christ (666)
Awakening To Paradise - Part Seven

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
28th January 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7831

The Manufactured World Of The Founding Father
The Grand Architect

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
23rd October 2010
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7514

while links to all other articles can be found here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385
(we have now posted quite a few links below as well)

A Brief Synopsis Of Why
We Started Love For Life

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
10th June 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8182

Facebook Status/Discussions/Sharing

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http://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/2114114540518

To have money you must have slaves and rulers, some men and woman are on a higher standing than others - some men and women acting as masters over other men and women, making the money, administering the money, deciding who can and cannot have the money, etc. This is a curse, a lie, a sin.

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http://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/2112267894353

It's impossible to have democracy constitution government capitalism rule-of-law & free-enterprise without having slaves & rulers. This is at the heart of all our problems. People under these systems claiming "The Land Of The Free" are deluded & living a monumental lie; they are slaves or rulers. All Men Are Equal, No MAN Is Master Of Another MAN. Who amongst us wants slaves? Please come forward so we can all see you.

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http://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/2108335956057

It is a battle over our brains and the progress of "The System" is the evolution of the lie that we keep unfolding to keep us in our individualised state and keeps us under the thumb of both the "Good Guys" and the "Bad Guys". The "Good Guys" of "The System" create stories for us to walk into and take on as our own stories. These are the spells they weave to keep us mesmerised and focused on "The System".

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http://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/2106909480396

Without MAN life will no longer exist. Where our thoughts go so goes all of Life. We are the co-creators of the dream of Life. We are the life in the dream of Life. Without MAN existing who is there to think & feel the information of Life? Note: no MAN exists to hear & answer the question so again, without MAN existing in the dream of Life who is there to sense to touch taste feel smell hear & sing the song of Life?

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Unravelling The Lies
Re-Presenting Is The Pull Of Duality
Into False Consciousness

Facebook & Email Discussions/Debates

If we contemplate on the information shared in these Facebook discussions/debates about non-duality and re-presentation, and go where the logic of truth takes us, they wipe out ALL belief, faith and associated opinion, showing them up as the false flags they are. Debates are brilliant for testing truth because when we go where the logic of truth takes us instead of fighting for a belief system that keeps us enslaved we can see duality for what it really is, a belief system superimposed over LIFE/Reality. The ones listed below still with a Facebook link will be uploaded to the Love For Life website ASAP. Links will be found here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 Some of these discussions were started by others and we joined in. Arthur's Facebook wall is open for anyone to visit, there are no restrictions.

Gravity
The Re-Presentation Of Another MAN's Thought
Or Reality?

A Facebook Discussion
With Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
During May 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8177

The Non-Sense Obstacles
Of The "Sustainability Movement"
How The "Haves" (Rulers)
Still Want The "Have Nots" (Slaves)

A Facebook Discussion With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
5th May 2011 To 2nd June 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8178

Are Your Eyes Open?
Can You Spot The Scams?

by Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
23rd February 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7930

Through Black-Magic
We're Tricked Into Re-Presenting
A Person We Are Not

A Facebook Discussion With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
19th April to 23rd April 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8179

Turning Away From "The System"
Exposing The Scam Of Re-Presenting

Facebook Discussion
With Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
25th January to 3rd February 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7939

The Meaning Of The Crucifix
A Facebook Discussion
With Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
24th February 2011
http://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/192461317442235

Darwin Was An Illuminati Shill
Between 9th and 20th March 2011
http://www.facebook.com/#!/permalink.php?story_fbid=103145519768731&id=100000088210319

LIFE Is Who We Really Are But Most Prefer A Carbon-Copy
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
Between 19th and 25th March 2011
http://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/1893416383202
and
http://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/212116118804361

Videos: Narayanan Krishnan
A Companion To The Forgotten
LIFE Is Love
How To Bring Peace Freedom Joy & Abundance For All

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
22nd February 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7900

The Main Insights Of The Love For Life Work
Can Be Researched Amongst These Recent Posts

These posts will help you to comprehend where we are at and heading and why the REMEDY of KINDOM (Do No Harm Communities)
Is the ONLY remedy that frees MAN from the slavery to man-made HELL.

We suggest reading & contemplating each post sequentially as listed below:

We were all sharing long before we were invaded and conquered by those who brought us an artificial system and we were sharing naturally through love without having to do harm to MAN, Earth, Nature. Does your child need to pay you before you will share your apple with him or do you share out of love? Now, we are still sharing with each other but we share with each other using an artificial system that is a third party between us and which does absolute harm to MAN, Earth, Nature! Instead of giving an apple to our neighbour, we sell the apple to the apple buyer, who sells it to the shopkeeper, who sells it to our neighbour. Wouldn't it be simpler to just pass the apple over the fence for your neighbour to enjoy, and enjoy the days when your neighbour passes an orange over the fence to you. And we're not even going into all the taxes and other tariffs placed onto the apple!

We give you a box of apples if we have more than we need and you give us a box of oranges because you have more than you need; you do not give us the box of oranges BECAUSE we have given you the box of apples. Both boxes of fruit are freely given with no conditions attached. The giving does not have to be done at the same time. The giver of the apples gives them because he/she has them to give when he/she has them to give, and the giver of the oranges gives them because he/she has them to give when he/she has them to give. It is an act of giving done freely without conditions or expectations.

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We Are The Life Of The Dream Of Life
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
6th September 2010
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7417

The Manufactured World Of The Founding Father
The Grand Architect

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
23rd October 2010
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7514

The Gift Of LIFE
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
9th January 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7760

The Creators Standing
How To Handle The Courts of "The System"

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
14th January 2011
Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7777

Awakening To Paradise - Part One To Part Seven
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
16th to 22nd January 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7805

Ruled By Numbers - The Anti Christ (666)
Awakening To Paradise - Part Seven

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
28th January 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7831

Who Are We, What Are We Part Of
And What Is Our True Purpose

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
Written During 2006/2007
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7834

Turning Away From "The System"
Unravelling The Lies

Facebook Discussion With Arthur & Fiona Cristian
25th January to 2nd February 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/content/11/01/30/who-are-we-what-are-we-part-a...

Alien Invasion?
Or Just Another CON?

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd February 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7851

The Ascension Of
The New Age Drones

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
4th February 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7856

Latest Video Releases February 2011
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
February 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7866

Dealing With "Spells" And Their "Curses"
How To Handle Claims On Offer
From Those Of "The System"
Direct The Curses Back Onto The Makers
The Red Mass

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
15th February 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7900

Narayanan Krishnan
A Companion To The Forgotten
LIFE Is Love
How To Bring Peace Freedom Joy & Abundance For All

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
22nd February 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7900

Are Your Eyes Open?
Can You Spot The Scams?

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
23rd February 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7930

The Meaning Of The Crucifix
A Facebook Discussion
With Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
24th February 2011
http://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/192461317442235

Gravity
The Re-Presentation Of Another MAN's Thought
Or Reality?

A Facebook Discussion
With Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
During May 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8177

The Non-Sense Obstacles
Of The "Sustainability Movement"
How The "Haves" (Rulers)
Still Want The "Have Nots" (Slaves)

A Facebook Discussion With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
5th May 2011 To 2nd June 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8178

Through Black-Magic
We're Tricked Into Re-Presenting
A Person We Are Not

A Facebook Discussion With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
19th April to 23rd April 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8179

The Song Of Life
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
Part Two - 3rd November 2010: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/09/26/free-land-unownedunclaimed-et...
Part Three - 10th November 2010: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/09/26/free-land-unownedunclaimed-et...
Part Four - 19th November 2010: How To Create A Slave: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/09/26/free-land-unownedunclaimed-et...
Part Five - 21st November 2010: Returning Drones To LIFE: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/09/26/free-land-unownedunclaimed-et...
Part One - 31st October 2010: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/09/26/free-land-unownedunclaimed-et...

When You Are In Commerce
It Is Clear Whose World You Are In
And Who You Are Serving

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
28th November 2010
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7597

Children Have Their Community School
Snatched By The Powers That Be

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
26th November 2010
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7594

Do You Really Support Slavery?
Commerce = Slavery
Freedom Truth Websites Being Pulled

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
6th December 2010
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7639

Disclaimer - Regarding The "Ecclesiastical Deed Poll"
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
18th October 2010
http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/10/24/manufactured-world-founding-f...

The Chatter That Overflows The Cup
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
12th November 2010
http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/09/26/free-land-unownedunclaimed-et...

Podcast

Arthur Cristian Interview On American Freedom Radio
The Vinny Eastwood Show
Wednesday 6th October 2010 5.00am Sydney Time

1 Hour 34 minutes
In This Recording The Interview Starts At 24 Minutes 8 Seconds
Link To Podcast & Download - 86.4mb:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7483

See Incontrovertible Evidence Of The Powers That Be
Admitting To Involuntary Servitude (Slavery)

Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office
Part Ten - From 13th October 2010
Should We Be In Fear Of Those Who Claim To Protect Us?
"Roman Cult" Canon Law - Ecclesiastical Deed Poll - The Work Of Frank O'Collins

http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7500

Videos

Videos: Key To Kindom

Co-Creation Of Do No Harm Communities
Causing A Mass Exodus From "The System"

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
7th February 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7866

ONCE UPON A TIME
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian - 8 Minutes 37 Seconds
Created Mid 2009
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1388008508321

THE HOUSE
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian - 8 Minutes
Created Mid 2009
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1387930506371

THE ORIGINS OF THE HOUSE
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian - 4 Minutes 57 Seconds
Created Mid 2009
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1387970627374

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On 23/06/2011 9:00 AM, Todd Sekulich wrote:

Hi there

Thanks for the response. I read the article on duality. I agree with certain tenets of it. I notice it is highly repetitive and convoluted writing but that is not a relevant topic here and now.

I asked only a very few questions in my first email which could be answered in a few lines. I appreciate you probably have a lot of work keeping the website going and responding to people so I am happy to wait a little while for a response.

I notice your website posts some highly dubious articles such as that one on same sex marriage, which you posted on as not necessarily agreeing with. The logical fallacies in said article are abundant and the author clearly over-represents the research in a biased manner. That is to say, the author clearly had an agenda. However you present it on your website which makes your ethics questionable. It is an article driven by fear and ignorance and hence hate, yet you profess conscious love, whilst at the same time consciously posting conscious fear and ignorance and intolerance. It doesn't matter that you were not the author, you are hosting it upon your communication platform.

If you could address my questions succinctly and directly, without making assumptions regarding what I may or may not already know or believe, that would be much appreciated.

I shall quickly bullet point the key queries that I am very interested in your thoughts about:

- Photographic evidence of a round Earth
- Marker-Shadowing evidence of a round earth
- Astronomical evidence of a round Earth via observation of the other planets and the consistency in Newtons Laws found therein
- Also, how old do you believe the Earth to be? and based on what evidence? (feel free to leave this one out, its the least important of these here points)
- Bible as solar system allegory. Is it not so?
- Obvious massive flaws in "intelligent" design. How do you explain these?
- Creator's creator? how did the creator come to be, and in turn, who is its creator?

Many thanks if you are able to respond to these matters! Additionally, thanks for your tireless work presenting so much thought provoking information to the community.

Warm Regards
Todd

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On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Love For Life Campaign action@loveforlife.com.au wrote:

Hi Todd,
We support freedom of speech, there is a vast amount of information posted in the website that we do not agree with, but we leave it all up for others to use their brains and go where the logic of truth takes them. We are not biased, we are not anyone's thought police, nor do we promote censorship - the last time we looked outside the window we could see we were not living in the ex-soviet union or china, etc.

Bar excessive foul language, pornography, character assassinations, premeditated or not, designed to attack the messenger with the intention to invalidate, ridicule, abuse, sabotage, undermine, ignore, distract, etc, from his/her message/information, all negative destructive emotions and ads secretly hidden within posts/comments, all of which we will remove from the website, we do not remove any comments or posts from the website. We support the expression of all forms of thought so that we may learn from each other and learn, through discussion, debate and scrutiny, the thoughts we have that lead to harm and the thoughts we have that lead to freedom, truth, peace, abundance, joy and do no harm for all of Life without loss of uniqueness and without the need for slaves and rulers.

In the information we come across, including all the information posted in the website, we always look for the remedy to all our woes, the remedy that feeds, shelters and keeps safe all our brothers and sisters of Life. If we cannot find it, we know the information is of no use. The reality is "The System" and all man-made systems that all men, women and children live under, and how they impact the lives of everyone caught up in them, is of no benefit to all of Life, including us, if it means millions of men, women and children are displaced from land and are continually being discriminated against having a piece of land to take care of, with FULL-Responsibility, for them, their family and their descendants to come, without fear of it being taken away from them or being forced into slavery over this land due to debt, taxation, etc.

To us, none of the sciences, education, university courses and careers, read and write alphabet languages, mathematics, rules-of-law, governments, politics, "ancient history", discoveries, occults, esoterics, religions, etc, found in any of these man-made "systems", do anything to address the problem of our displacement from land, in fact they are distractions that only serve to maintain the status quo of "The System", the haves and the have nots, the slaves and the masters, and the continued devastation of nature. Unless they make the sun shine, are required for nature to exist, put food on the table and clean water in the rivers and seas, and stopping all harm to Life including MAN, they are not of interest to us. Remedy to the problems of "The System" is our interest and, to us, endless discussions about law, science, religion, etc, do nothing to bring about the remedy of Do No Harm Communities (Kindoms), which we have also written so much about.

You are asking questions that cannot be explained in a few sentences but the answers to all your questions can be found in our work, many times over, which is why we have directed you to the posts, articles and Facebook discussions/debates below. It is up to you to put in the work and read and contemplate, putting aside your beliefs until you have really comprehended what we are sharing, because only then will you really have a grasp on how we are thinking and feeling and our intentions. Each of us takes full responsibility for how he/she thinks, feels and acts. If you particularly study the Facebook discussion on gravity, you will be able to apply the information there to your questions on the shape of Earth, shadowing, etc. Its all there for you, if you want to put the effort in.

We have many discussions with those using the terms and information of science but we don't use those terms or information. We ask those who make the claims of science to back their claims by providing us with first party to first party incontrovertible evidence of those claims. None of them are able to - perhaps you are? Again, refer to the discussion on gravity to see how those who rely on science are just parroting (re-presenting) third party information with no way to prove if it is right or wrong.

If the information you are working on, if what drives you, provides the remedy to the issues that we are confronting and brings freedom, peace, truth, joy, abundance and do no harm for all of Life, we would be happy to delve into working with you and see if your dream can complement ours. Otherwise, it is just a distraction from creating freedom, peace, truth, joy, abundance and do no harm for all of Life.

We support uniqueness and do not wish to squeeze our lives into the mould you are asking us to perform for you in, just as we do not expect or wish you to fit into our way of thinking if it is not your way. We are not interested in creating individuals (in-divide-u-all-s) out of the same mould, all in the same likeness of thought. We honour and support unique thinking. We are not here to tell you how to think and how to feel, what is right and what is wrong so that you will be in our image. We say that all great leaders have no followers because they know that all men and women are equal and inspire them to take Full-Responsibility for their lives and their share of the workload. They know that everyone is unique, not one the same as the next, and that Life is a team effort.

The Love For Life articles we write are the living foods and natural liquids we offer on our dining table. It is up to you if you want to come and sit at the table and enjoy the produce of our fruits of labour. No MAN is master of another MAN - All men are equal. We have no higher standing over you just as you have no higher standing over us. You are not our master just as we are not your master but how we learn to live with each other and get on with each other, without doing harm to each other and to all of Life, is our passion, our only interest.

The repetition is intentional. There are very good reasons why we do it. How you react to this is all up to you. We do not write in spells in order to get people under our spell.

All the best
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

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On 23/06/2011 10:43 PM, Todd Sekulich wrote:

Hello Arthur / Fiona

You wrote:

"We support freedom of speech, there is a vast amount of information posted in the website that we do not agree with, but we leave it all up for others to use their brains and go where the logic of truth takes them. We are not biased, we are not anyone's thought police, nor do we promote censorship - the last time we looked outside the window we could see we were not living in the ex-soviet union or china, etc.

Bar excessive foul language, pornography, character assassinations, premeditated or not, designed to attack the messenger with the intention to invalidate, ridicule, abuse, sabotage, undermine, ignore, distract, etc, from his/her message/information, all negative destructive emotions and ads secretly hidden within posts/comments, all of which we will remove from the website, we do not remove any comments or posts from the website. We support the expression of all forms of thought so that we may learn from each other and learn, through discussion, debate and scrutiny, the thoughts we have that lead to harm and the thoughts we have that lead to freedom, truth, peace, abundance, joy and do no harm for all of Life without loss of uniqueness and without the need for slaves and rulers."

Yet you have physically gone and sourced an article founded by destructive emotions (not even so secretly hidden within the message) and posted it on your site. You are in utter contradiction of your own values. I am heterosexual by the way so this is not a personal bias / vendetta.

You have changed the nature of my initial argument, by stating that you support free speech / no censorship, but that is not what this is about, as you actively pursued that article and transferred it to your communications outlet. This implies support. The article was available elsewhere on the net before you grabbed it, so censorship has nothing to do with this. It is not a case of someone else posted it to your site and you chose to leave it up. So this is clearly "Do as we say not as we do" ? Or is it "hits are more important than integrity" ?

I went to your facebook wall and I cant find the gravity discussion. Can you link me directly to it?

One does not need to be a scientist, or to represent, as you say, what science tells us. It is relatively easy to test the "roundness" of the world by using shadow markers at different latitudes and taking readings at the exact same time thereby rendering a picture of the curve of the surface of the earth using very very simple geometry. This does not require technicians, mathematicians or scientists. Just a rudimentary appreciation for observed trial. This has been shown to further enforce the truth of the roundness of the earth. Can you explain this away please? And the photos of the earth sphere? I would like to see the validity of your assertion.

I hope you are not requesting that I suspend my appreciation for observation through trial and error, and my appreciation for basing my assumptions about reality upon evidence that I can see for myself, such as this shadow exercise.

At this point I also note, that as it seems you are part of the remedy and claim to knowing a different truth than institutional science, may I ask what have been your methods of arriving at your conclusions? Or is it more appropriate to ask, who are you re-presenting? If I was to take a wild guess the names David Icke and Jordan Maxwell would be two of them. Both I notice have the same tendency of wanting people to believe their truth whilst suspending their own observation and the need for evidence. Imagine that before microscopes no one even knew about bacteria. Imagine how many lives the microscope has saved, through smarter practices in hospitals, amongst other things, only by expanding our powers of observation. Have you ever looked at bacteria through a microscope. I have, from a swathe of my own saliva, and urine. The saliva is far more active with potentially harmful bacteria, contrary to intuition. I must mention that I do respect both David and Jordan greatly, I just choose to not follow them blindly as many unfortunately do. We of course should follow no one but ourselves, as you would attest to.

We are all free to come to our own conclusions. And I appreciate you have arrived at yours. My red flag goes up as soon as someone starts talking about being a "truth-seeker". The truth, how can one claim to be a truth seeker. For to understand everything, the truth, you would have to claim to understand the absolute truth of everything. Yet without a microscope you wouldn't even know about bacteria. And considering how limited the human senses are this claim to truth is the height of human arrogance, which is based on ignorance, which is based on fear and apathy. Not love. We cant even see the Ultra-Violet Rays of the sun whilst they burn us.

I realise you will keep avoiding my extremely simple questions, so I bid you adieu, unless you want to address the shadowing issue, which refutes your claim to a wonky shaped earth.

Also, I hope you appreciate that the science you so regularly lash against, is the same science that built your computer, invented the internet which you connected to to read this, provided the construction of your dwelling, your transport, the refrigeration to keep your food longer, the phone you use for communication, for permaculture and aquaponics which are the future of organic food production, for energy harvesting including renewables such as solar panels, actually the more I think about it, basically everything we use daily to make life more efficient, and potentially better, comes back to science.

The allegorical bible does not even come close to what science has provided us. Or maybe I have missed something. Can you direct me to the parts in the bible that will help me build my renewable energy system, my permaculture, my irrigation, my self-thermally-regulating dwelling, the machinery i shall be using to get all this working. Or do I need to rely on satanic maths to ensure my dwelling stays upright under any weather, including earthquakes?

Warm Regards
Todd

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On 24/06/2011 8:35 PM, Arthur & Fiona Cristian wrote:

Hi Todd,
You will get nowhere with us because you are unwilling to read and contemplate on our work: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 - The link to the Facebook discussion on gravity, posted in the Love For Life website, is staring you in the face, bolded, in the first email we sent to you, it's still there, see below!!!! Here is the link again: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8177 - Are you very lazy Todd?

Unfortunately, you are trapped in the same prison of the NON-SENSE information of "The System" as most men and women in that you assume that where we, men and women, are at is the best we can be. Actually, we are but non-sense-shadows of our true SENSE-ory potential. You laud science as being the provider of many comforts that most take for granted but science is necessary in "The System" of non-sense as a form of prosthetics (dead-corpse infrastructures of "The System") to compensate for the fact that most of us have lost our ability to be fully conscious men and women of SENSE who can communicate, eat, drink, make shelter, and generally live peacefully with nature, through SENSE, without causing the constant destruction to sensory-LIFE that science causes.

If we do not turn things around very soon, MANS unhealthy obsession in using dead-corpse-non-sense-science to provide what we can no longer do, we will have completely destroyed Earth and all of LIFE, including our lives. The "progress" of science is just the progress of "The System" of harm (the progress of the Western World civilisation of commerce = the expansion of MANS spiritual death across Earth) that rules us and teaches us to destroy, destroy, destroy. And you place more weight on the non-sense information of this system of destruction that you do in being prepared to really communicate with your brothers and sisters of LIFE, of SENSE, who are living. By communicate, we mean prepared to explore sensory information rather than just compare it to a rigid set of beliefs, founded in non-sense, that have been instilled in you by someone else lost to non-sense, a third party, who has told you how to think and feel about Earth, LIFE, etc, using non-sense information. Example being your "shadow test".

(And yes, we know we are using dead-corpse-non-sense read and write alphabet languages and computers but we too have been brainwashed/braindirtied and seriously compromised with non-sense and still have to use these methods of non-sense communication to communicate with the dead, those lost to non-sense. Our articles and Facebook discussions/debates go into these themes in great detail. Also, as growing children, we were not provided with idiot-friendly full-disclosure that we were going to be brainwashed/braindirtied with non-sense otherwise we would not have chosen this non-sense path to live and create our lives out of, preferring to co-exist and co-create with nature, with sense.)

You are insisting that we discuss your shadowing test for the roundness of Earth but, as you would perhaps comprehend if you read the gravity discussion, you are using dead constructs of the dead "System" to explain dead non-sense ideas. Earth is living, not dead but you want to ignore the SENSE of Earth by blanketing it with the NON-SENSE information of "The System" which you were brainwashed into re-presenting. Your non-sense information is based on mathematics, geometry and read and write alphabet languages, all of which are of non-sense, which do not exist as part of LIFE, of SENSE, of REALITY. Can you produce them for us? Can we meet and interact with the SUBSTANCE of them, first party to first party, sense to sense? Or do we need to spend years being taught how to use, understand, re-present and work with non-sense information that is man-made non-sense CON-structs?

Yes, the natural shapes of trees, mountains, land, etc, exist, but not the angles, squares, levels, dimensions that are geometry or the compass and square. How can constructs not of LIFE, that are without SENSE, tell us about LIFE, about SENSE, about Earth? How can the compass and square of "The System" tell us about Earth, about LIFE? 1,2,3 and ABC do not exist in nature. There is only a tree of trees, a flower of flowers; not first or last. A child can go to a tree and receive all the sense-ory information of LIFE that the tree has to offer, provided the child has not been brainwashed by "The System's" education, but what can the child learn about the tree or anything of LIFE from a compass and square?

Not brainwashed and interacting directly with the tree, the child will have unique thoughts about the tree, thoughts that you or us cannot even imagine. You would not have any unique thoughts about the tree because you are in a non-sense state, echoing the non-sense thoughts of other men and women in a non-sense state. Based on your writing this far, you, your uniqueness, hardly exists; all we can see are the shadows of other men and women's non-sense thoughts/ideas you are re-presenting. Who are you Todd? Where are you Todd? What are you Todd? Are you amongst the living, amongst sense, Todd?

From here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8179 "How can something dead tell us about what is living? How can a telescope or a microscope, both of which are the remnants of destroyed LIFE, tell us about LIFE? All they can give us is a small glimpse at one aspect of LIFE, it's physical appearance. The information of both the telescope and the science that explains what we see through the telescope is re-presenting baggage information of "The System". They have no LIFE or thoughts or feelings to share with us. This is no different from Mary playing Alice in Wonderland, or a child using a stick for a wand and a broom for a horse."

Your comment: "One does not need to be a scientist, or to represent, as you say, what science tells us. It is relatively easy to test the "roundness" of the world by using shadow markers at different latitudes and taking readings at the exact same time thereby rendering a picture of the curve of the surface of the earth using very very simple geometry. This does not require technicians, mathematicians or scientists. Just a rudimentary appreciation for observed trial. This has been shown to further enforce the truth of the roundness of the earth. Can you explain this away please? And the photos of the earth sphere? I would like to see the validity of your assertion." To us this is all just complete and utter NON-SENSE - your performance is no different to the child using a stick for a wand and a broom for a horse. The scientists, mathematicians, technicians are lost in NON-SENSE. The photos of Earth are created through cervical, convex, elliptical lenses. Check this photo from "supposedly" Google Earth: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8207 - A lot more information can be found amongst many of the posts located here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3455

You have no sensory evidence Todd. All you can bring forward to back your claims are non-sense-fictions. You, re-presenting these con-structs does not make the non-sense information true. Even if you had 50 million people thinking the same way as you presently do still does not make this non-sense information correct. The arc does not mean Earth is completely round - it just indicates the Sun is moving across an arc. There is no SENSE-ory evidence that proves Earth is spinning the way "experts" of "The System" say it does, nor is there any sensory evidence that Earth is going around the Sun or that Earth is a planet, part of a solar system, that is going around a galaxy of many galaxies, all together going around a universe of many many universes, etc. This is all Alice in Wonderland NON-SENSE.

Have you seen (through sense - 1st part to 1st party) the "solar system" the way it is depicted in drawings? - Have you seen (through sense - 1st party to 1st party) the "roundness" of Earth the way it is depicted in photos or drawings? What about A, B, or C or 1, 2, or 3 or Compass or Square or Angle or Dimension, have you visited them (through sense - 1st party to 1st party), sat around and had a bite to eat, a drink and a laugh??? Have you seen where there ancestors were buried? Have you seen where their children play? If you have, can you please arrange for us to meet them too! If they exist, can you please arrange for each of them to stand on a podium in an auditorium where they can talk to a packed audience which we will arrange to come.

If you can't bring them forward to back your claims, then all your claims default back to you making the claims. Then it becomes an issue of whether you have a multiple personality disorder or that you are just a con-artist committing fraud, trying to impersonate other men and women or you have created a scam trying to convince other men, women and children into believing the non-sense wonderland lies you are peddling. We will need to site your birth certificate, drivers license, bank account and credit card details, tax file number, vehicle registration number, power, gas and telephone bills, etc, to see if your first, middle and surnames are not A, B, C, 1, 2, 3, Compass, Square, Shadow, Earth, Roundness, Mathematics, Mathematicians, Geometry, Latitudes, Technicians, Scientists, Shadow Marker, etc.

We need to be sure who are you Todd? And who we are really dealing with here? If all these claims are true but only a Todd Sekulich can come forward to back them, or for that matter, any other sentient, man, woman or child, whose flesh lives and blood flows comes forward to back these claims, then those present will know who is responsible for creating and spreading all the lies and, in doing so, having caused immense harm to billions of men, women, children and uncountable Life-forms of nature, inanimate or not, which have been destroyed as part of the attempted corruption and intention to deceive the people.

You talk about seeing bacteria with a non-sense microscope as if this is a great thing, but you only get very incomplete information about the sensory LIFE-form that is bacteria through a dead-corpse microscope. You are sort of engaging one SENSE only. (From the above comment: "The information of both the telescope and the science that explains what we see through the telescope is re-presenting baggage information of "The System".) A fully conscious man, woman or child would get a far more complete picture of the sensory LIFE-form that is the bacteria by using his/her SENSE to communicate directly with the SENSE embodied in the bacteria rather than relying on the non-sense prosthetics and third parties of "The System".

To say that we would not even know about bacteria if it weren't for microscopes is true about men and women in their dumbed-down non-sense state but not true for fully conscious men and women. But, of course, you will not be able to comprehend this because you are not willing to study our work and the work of others that we recommend in various parts of the website. One example of many being the series of Russian books called "The Ringing Cedars": http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1125 - Other locations where you can find such information mixed in amongst more non-sense are: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3641 - http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1985 - http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5173 - http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5068 - http://loveforlife.com.au/node/2167 - http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3432 - You are stuck firmly in the sandpit of "The System" playing with the non-sense toys of "The System", refusing to consider anything outside the non-sense-sandpit and refusing to listen to anyone outside the sandpit saying, "Hey, look over here. There is sensory information here that you have never even imagined or realised!"

You say that posting an article to the website implies support. This is your assumption. For example, we post many, many articles about Freeman information, Common Law, etc, but we do not support the Freeman route, or fighting "The System" with the laws of "The System" as we realise that they do not do anything to co-create a world of peace, freedom, truth, abundance, joy and do no harm for all. We post many things we do not support but we put the information up for those who want it. We are no one's thought police. Did you choose to comment on this particular article because it was on a controversial topic, we wonder? You are not trying to start a controversy, are you? Are you a troublemaker Todd?

We have written many articles and have been involved in many debates with devotees of common law, constitution, democracy, government, money, trial-by-jury, freeman, sovereignty, admiralty law, ecclesiastical law, honour-dishonour, etc. Some of those involved have got very upset and angry with us, others have just turned their backs on us and ignored us ever since. Here are just a few examples of many: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7939 - http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/10/24/manufactured-world-founding-f... - http://loveforlife.com.au/content/11/04/19/re-presenting-pull-duality-fa... - The next article we are posting shortly "No Man Is Master Of Another Man - The Lie That Is Common Law, Trial By Jury And Democracy" rips the guts out of all these non-sense movements and belief systems. A few extracts can be found amongst these Facebook discussions/debates: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/08/08/03/same-sex-marriage-till-aids-d...

As for the article you focus on being founded on negative, destructive emotions, so is "The System" and everything of "The System". "The System" is based on anger, greed, selfishness, hatred, dishonesty, rape, pillage, plunder, arrogance, ignorance, indifference, righteousness, etc, so if we are not going to post anything founded on negative, destructive emotions, we might as well ditch the website and you may as well ditch all non-sense science too!. Much of the Freeman stuff is based on greed - "my land", "my freedom", my strawman account" - and other articles are based on belief systems - "my belief system" - so should we take down that section of the website? The fact that the whole of "The System" is based on negative, destructive emotions is the reason we are committed to co-creating LIFE outside "The System". Science is based on selfishness - "I want to see what this animal looks like inside so I will kill it and cut it open", "I want to go to the moon so I will cause immense destruction to mountains, trees, rivers, etc, to build space ships that cause immense destruction to LIFE as they take off and travel".

The author of the article you are talking about was expressing his opinion on the topic of his choice. This is freedom of speech. Should we censor your correspondence because it does not fit in with what we think and feel? Young children living in secure environments often turn around to their brothers and/or sisters and say, "I hate you!". They do this because it is what they feel in the moment and because they feel secure enough to express how they feel, rather than keeping their feelings and thoughts hidden for fear of being yelled at or beaten. This is where negative, destructive emotions set in. Intolerance is something we ALL (yes, even the politically correct amongst us) need to work through but stamping on anyone who dares express an opinion contrary to the politically correct way of thinking does not seem to have created a world of peace, freedom, truth, abundance, joy and do no harm for ALL. Listening and learning, listening and learning, discussing and debating; this is the only way.

The comment "all negative-destructive emotions" was in reference to debates, discussions and posts, regarding any particular subject found in the Love For Life website. You have just taken it out of context and used it for your own particular agenda/argument: "Bar excessive foul language, pornography, character assassinations, premeditated or not, designed to attack the messenger with the intention to invalidate, ridicule, abuse, sabotage, undermine, ignore, distract, etc, from his/her message/information, all negative destructive emotions and ads secretly hidden within posts/comments, all of which we will remove from the website, we do not remove any comments or posts from the website. We support the expression of all forms of thought so that we may learn from each other and learn, through discussion, debate and scrutiny, the thoughts we have that lead to harm and the thoughts we have that lead to freedom, truth, peace, abundance, joy and do no harm for all of Life without loss of uniqueness and without the need for slaves and rulers."

No, we don't re-present David Icke and Jordan Maxwell. They do not offer a remedy to "The System", only bring people's attention to the dirt of "The System" in order to prepare the sheeple for the next version of "The System". They are of "The System", not of remedy. Again, we have written a lot about this. Here is the latest comment on this subject, scroll down to find it: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/08/08/03/same-sex-marriage-till-aids-d... "It is a battle over our brains and the progress of "The System" is the evolution of the lie that we keep unfolding to keep us in our individualised state and keep us under the thumb of both the "Good Guys" and the "Bad Guys". The "Good Guys" of "The System" create stories for us to walk into and take on as our own stories. These are the spells they weave to keep us mesmerised and focused on "The System"."

You say," And considering how limited the human senses are this claim to truth is the height of human arrogance, which is based on ignorance, which is based on fear and apathy and trauma." It is the refusal to consider that "The System" and its belief systems are not the best we can do that is the height of human arrogance, which is based on ignorance, which is based on fear, apathy and trauma. As Fiona read in a book recently, "It is not the stupidity of humans that I hate, it is their love of stupidity." Most men and women are too lazy to use their brains and think things through, to notice the glaring contradictions in the information of "The System" and to examine their own brainwashing. How can we know if what we believe is true, if we are not prepared to scrutinise and examine that which we believe? Could it be that most men and women are too terrified to do this because, if their belief system was found lacking, they would have to change everything about the way they live? Oh yes.. the PRIDE, the PRIDE, lets not forget about that either Todd! Many are too ashamed to admit that almost everything they were taught at school and university is garbage.

How do we arrive at our conclusions? Love, logic, the willingness to go outside the square and not cling onto any belief systems and information from brothers and sisters of LIFE along the way. We scrutinise all information and go where the sensory-logic of truth takes us. We don't only look for information that protects, reinforces, glorifies, approves, worships and expands a "belief system", while disregarding all other information which is thrown into the non-sense garbage bin conceived out of arrogant, ignorant, indifferent and righteous behaviour.

As for the Bible, we do not study the Bible or think of it as anything other than the blueprint of "The System" that it is. Again, see our work. And yes, many people have built dwellings, tables, chairs, without using mathematics and geometry. All LIFE forms except MAN manage without mathematics and geometry and they live without destroying Earth. Who has it right, we wonder? Have you seen any parents in nature (tribes, villages, communities) needing to use mathematics and geometry to design the physical and sensory characteristics of their child as a critical part of the process of creating their baby??? Can you show us how a man-made, dead-corpse, non-sense con-struct has the power of Life to do create anything without the need for MANS involvement to re-present/perform for them?

This discussion has been posted to the Love For Life website and on the Facebook wall for others to contemplate and learn from because, unless we are willing to listen and learn, we will never create a world of truth, freedom, peace, joy, abundance and do no harm for all.

Here are is a link to another brief current Facebook discussion: http://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/211594438626

All the best
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

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On the 24th June 2011 10:33 PM, Todd Sekulich wrote:

Hi Arthur

First of all I want to clarify that if I had known you would be so prone to evading direct questions I would not have wasted my time emailing you. However these communications have been of some value, so thank you.

1) Our "system", I agree is filled with nonsense, garbage and negative emotions, and misinformation. I however will not throw out the baby with the bathwater. That is to say, I am more than happy to "cling" to the best of science, which is allowing this communication between us, which allows for the construction of buildings and homes so as they stay upright, and so on and so forth. At the same time I am aware science has many flaws, as do the scientists themselves working within it.

On your question about whether I am just re-presenting, well lets see, I had a landscaper design an irrigation system for me via his SENSE-ory intuition, which I implemented. I noticed it was inefficient with some sections of the vegetation receiving too much water and others not. So I took it upon myself to apply SATANIC geometry (god forgive me) and what do you know Arthur? Stunningly efficient, even results. Next onto my wind turbines. Well I tried my SENSE-ory logic once again however it just wouldn't make the damn thing work. I know, I know I need to tap into the creators' power and all that.

So anyway, I consulted a scientific electrical engineering book (two actually) and what do you know again Arthur? I am harvesting wind energy. Babies and bathwater Arthur. You may not like it Arthur, but that doesn't change the fact that geometry is everywhere. I can see it, and touch it, I don't need to re-present it. The table my computer is sitting on as I type this...well the carpenter used geometry to make it effective. Granted, something so simple can be applied without knowing geometry, but when we get to the notion of a house, and I apologise for this Arthur, but I am going to go with a constructor that applies mathematics, a tradesman that measures lengths, angles etc instead of using just his sensory logic.

2) It appears I do choose not to invest the amount of time sitting at the evil computer as you do. I have music (beauty) to produce and give to the world, so I choose to play my nonsense instrument more, plus the other daily requirements I have.

3) Whilst I appreciate the need to only follow one's self and ones intuition and sensory logic, I also have a healthy respect for how limited my senses are.

4) Its difficult to debate with someone so ignorant to the CONTRAdictions in their own discourse, so hypocritical. You can not simply denounce science and stay on the computer and the internet, whilst at the same moment retain credibility... just by claiming you are brainwashed. If you were brainwashed you would not be able to recognise your brainwashing, however you are well aware yet continue without cognitive dissonance. You are in "doublethink" as Orwell eloquently used it.

5) Thanks for introducing me to the fun to be had in capitalising SECTions of words to highlight the fact that more than one word is CONtained therein.

Please add this, my final response to you, to the website post you have added to your science-built internet site LOL :) (BTW - is this a habit of yours, posting emails to your site without asking for the consent of the author of the emails contained therein? It happens that I dont mind at all, but is it not disrespectful not to at least first check that I am ok with it?)

So, in closing, I am following my own SENSE-ory logic to DETER-mine haha that I am wasting time in communique with you.

All the best, Todd.

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On the 25/06/2011 1:45 AM, Todd Sekulich wrote:

As a postscript i would like to add... (for clarity's sake)

i heartily agree with many of your views on life. we are only disagreeing on the strategies involved with making the world a better, more honest, more equitable place for everyone, not just select groups or individuals.

my view is that there are some scientific applications which can improve society. however as with all things we must be deeply thoughtful in how we apply technology.

unfortunately we live in a monetary and market system that undermines honesty and integrity and discounts human concern, by putting profit above life. until the day this system ends we will get the same problems over and over. in this type of system there is no social capital (trust), only material capital.

also agreed is that the entire indoctrinating education system is a complete control mechanism designed for obedience and destruction of critical thinking and creativity. this is why i left university very early in the course, as I awoke to the fact that alot of the information was not relevant just like the methods of teaching it too.

i believe to make the world better we have to get of our arses and work to make it happen. words are not enough.

if i can use the best parts of science combined with my concern for other sentient beings to create resource abundance and design out the competition involved with scarcity i will do that, I am doing that in fact. At the same time I also recognise that true lasting change only happens in the hearts and minds of people, and so all my projects revolve around projecting compassion for the earth and for fellow humans. I also recognise that community spirit (i think you call this immunity?) is our last and only true insurance. My work also encourages this.

i dont have the time to go into detail but hopefully you catch my philosophy.

in relation to your comment that there is no A B C or 1 2 3 i agree to this premise, yes. ironically this was taught at the start of a sociology subject in the one semester of uni i actually endured. but thats not to say i learned it there.

also ironically, cognitive psychology, yes an instituted science which you deplore, backs this up through studies that show the power of our brain when learning via imagery as opposed to lingual concepts is much much greater. that is to say, if you explain to me how to play a certain chord on the piano, for example, instead of saying nothing and just playing it in front of me, then I will have a much decreased chance of understanding and connecting to the actual thing (the creation of music - which is more real than the words used to describe it or to teach it).

Beauty is important and it is not an intellectual concept, nor is life. This is the core of my point and i take it to be yours. it is within us not as words or ideas or beliefs. it is our foundation and it is not. our essence and non-essence. our everything and nothing. our inner and outer world. we are god and not god. we are the universe and it is us. creator and created. when we find this tranquility within ourselves, decisions will ONLY be based upon concern and empathy for others. for we shall see that it is all symbiotic. our intellectualism becomes not relevant. and so when our actions are driven by empathy we will employ our logic and reasoning to commit to the genius of our ability to design WITH nature, not against it, for the purpose of constantly and never-endingly improving life for ourselves and all of humanity, which of course are one and the same thing.

All the best, Todd.

Have You Seen Earth Spin? Our Eyes Of SENSE Do Not Lie

Have You Seen Earth Spin?
Our Eyes Of SENSE Do Not Lie


Facebook Discussion/Debate
With Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
26th to 27th June 2011

Link: http://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/2123061324182

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Arthur Cristian
Our eyes of SENSE do not lie; what you see moving across the sky is TRUTH. Have you seen Earth spin? No one in a satellite or space station or rocket ship can see Earth spin either. While they are "up there" we can see them moving across the sky but we are not moving & they "up there" can't see us on the land moving either. Our eyes are not lying to us. Photos taken from "up there" show clear delineation of all land.

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Larry Hurdiss

Hi, Arthur...i love it !! what you been smoking ??....lol

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Arthur Cristian

Nobody can prove Earth is spinning or that it is going around the Sun - no one. It's all just theory/fantasy/illusion.

No expert can prove this Google photo http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8207 has been doctored either. They have had almost 4 years since we became aware of it to disprove it. In our networks, particularly the Love For Life mailing list with all its network offshoots reaching over half a million readers, some who are experts in these fields, some involved with Hollywood special effects, have not been able to come forward to prove this photo has been doctored. No One!

The idea earth has an edge or has a bowl http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6542 is not our belief, they come from others (3rd parties) but again no one can prove or disprove this idea either. This information could be spot on.

The idea we are at the very edge of the milky way is NON-SENSE as well - no one hardly knows where we are or what we are part of and how life/reality all really works and comes together.

The idea that Earth is a planet, part of a solar system of many planets all going around a sun is NON-0SENSE too - are just ideas/theories.

No one can prove planets exist, yet alone galaxies and universes.

No one can prove A, B, C or 1, 2, 3 or compass or square exist either.

The fact is they do not exist.

They can't exist because they have no SENSE.

So how can this scientific information tell us anything about Truth, about Reality, about SENSE-ory Life???? And yet all sciences come out of this NON-SENSE and billions are running around saying it is all true.

Whatever you are looking at in the "night sky", it is best you commune/observe/contemplate directly with these celestial bodies, through SENSE, to access all the SENSE-ory information these life-forms have to share with you, first party to first party. Where else or how else can you receive truthful (sense-ory) information?

There is no point relying on 3rd party strangers to tell us/you what they are, what they do, what their purpose for Life is, etc, particularly anyone using mathematics or geometry, or any man-made con-struct derived of mathematics and geometry, because they will be lying to us/you.

Mathematics and Geometry do not exist, are fiction, fantasy and illusion. They have no SENSE. What is dead is without SENSE and therefore cannot tell us anything about the living. We now tell people to throw out ALL information to do with astronomy, astrology, numerology, sciences, occults, esoterics and all university courses, careers, religions and commerce in the garbage bin because all this information is made up out of thin air, it does not exist.

All information pertaining to or deriding from time, space, weights, levels, measurements, dimensions, values, commerce, etc, come out of mathematics and geometry. They have no SENSE therefore they do not exist.

Even east, west, north, south, up, down, left right, first, last, within, without, etc, do not exist.

Please study the debates, links provided, because they prove incontrovertibly what we are sharing here to be true.

Collectively, all we can do is scrutinise all information to eliminate all the lies, all the NON-SENSE, until whatever is left standing will get us closer to truth, to SENSE. This is why we test all information to find SENSE while disregarding all NON-SENSE. Only the information of SENSE can tell us truth and we can only access this information directly first party to first party from whatever sensory life-form we choose to observe.

This is the ONLY way we will SENSE truth and is the ONLY way we create our unique thoughts which makes us all truly unique not one the same as the next. If our experiences are derived from NON-SENSE then that is what we get!

There is so much more information to share about SENSE and NON-SENSE which you can access by contemplating the information we share in the many Facebook debates/discussion and articles, videos and podcasts we have posted here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 particularly the links provided in the earlier post above.

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Arthur Cristian

We are the heart of all of Life. Without us, MAN, Life, the dream of Life will not exist.

Please refer to the Facebook discussions posted here: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/08/08/03/same-sex-marriage-till-aids-d... and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8177 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/08/08/03/same-sex-marriage-till-aids-d... - These discussions and this article: "Re-Presenting Is The Pull Of Duality Into False Consciousness - Unravelling Lies And Liars And The Remedy To The Lies" By Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life 19th April 2011: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8129 - will explain why we are saying this: It's obvious why all forms of technology (prosthetics) cannot reveal truth.

Also, almost all telescopes use convex lenses, try using a flat lens with no concave or convex flickerings through the glass.

Also, how do you know what you are looking at are planets?

Also, we, Fiona and Arthur, are not saying that Earth is a bowl shape or is flat or whatever because we really don't know yet, but what we do know, is that so far since 1997, we have found no incontrovertible evidence that proves a MAN in a ship, rocket, satellite, hot-weather balloon, plane, or not, has gone non-stop from north to south back to north again or visa-versa and documented such a journey around Earth without pause. We can't find any shred of sensory evidence.

We liken Earth more like a sprouting/expansion outwards of consciousness, just like a seed explodes into a massive tree of Life. That Earth is MAN and MAN is Earth and without MAN this dream of Life will no longer exist.

We sense that most definitely we are not tiny aspects of a universe at the effect of greater forces than us (thats what the lying Satanists/Freemasons want us to believe), and, we are most definitely not on a journey heading from somewhere to somewhere, (which again, the deceiving colluding Freemasons/Satanists want us to believe).

We say, that all we see, including all celestial bodies, is our living body of Life, no different to the bones, blood, organs and glands in your body being part of your whole body of Life.

Anyway, we have tested all this information, both non-sense and sense, in heaps of debates/discussions thus far and no one can fault the information we are sharing, and yet we are finding thousands of faults in whatever man-made con-structs are brought forward to be used as supposed evidence to back their claims be it any aspect of science or occults or esoterics or belief systems.

If you or your brother would like to debate so together we can peacefully and lovingly test all the information thoroughly through scrutiny, and all-together, go where the logic of truth takes us all, will be very helpful for all of us. Unless we test all information how will we ever know the information anyone believes in is true or not and if it is non-sense, that they realise they have been conned, misled, used and abused.. Most people won't do this, they prefer to hang on to their belief systems at all costs and ignore all other new information that comes along.

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Arthur Cristian

Also, our eyes, of SENSE do not lie; what you see moving across the sky is moving across the sky, is TRUTH. Have you seen Earth spin?

No one in a satellite or space station or rocket-ship, can see Earth spin either. While they are "up there" we can see them moving across the sky but we are not moving and they "up there" can't see us on the land moving either. Our eyes are not lying to us. This is also why all the photos they take from "up there" show clear delineation of all land adjoining oceans, seas, lakes, rivers, etc.

If Earth was spinning at the phenomenal speeds they claim it is doing, then all coast line photos taken from "up there" would be terribly blurred, but that ain't the case. It is the man-made Satanic/Freemasonic information of NON-SENSE that is used to superimpose over everything we SENSE (touch, taste, feel, smell, hear, see) that is lying to us.

The outcomes of our lives are the thoughts we think! - This is fact!

If they can get you to think and feel what they want you to think and get you to put your Life-Energy (your focus) into these thoughts you will create that world / "Their World"! Slaves/Drones willingly create a world in their masters image without realising. This is FACT! - This is what is really going on.

Why do you think most of our parents and us and our children have been FORCED into the indoctrination of "The System" brainwashing agenda, placed on the conveyor belt running through factory-planet-earth to be pounded with NON-SENSE information repeatedly for anywhere between 12 and 28 years? And lets not forget all the media of "The System" information pounding us chronically every which way we turn as well, almost all of our waking and resting Life as well. What a Coincidence Anna!

Is there a coincidence between this fact and you saying "For your hypothesis to be true, the earth would have to stop spinning to produce night and day and the sun, and it's entire solar system would be orbiting us, because we are THAT important - that is pure archaic narcissism, the sort of thinking that religions were built on."

Remember that once people thought Earth was flat and anyone who dared to suggest otherwise was ridiculed. Now everyone believes Earth is spherical and anyone who suggest different is ridiculed! And anyone who suggests that things are not as we have been taught to believe is ridiculed.

We have come across so many blatant lies peddled as truths that we have realised we have to question EVERYTHING we have been taught to wean out truth from lies. History has been re-written and re-written and re-written and the people indoctrinated into whatever version of history fits the current agenda of "The System". Supposedly "secret" information is revealed by those of "The System" as they deem it necessary for the continued control of our thoughts. Our articles and many Facebook debates/discussions go into these themes in great detail. The truth is you and the rest of us have all been had, we have all been done over, braindirtied/brainwashed by NON-SENSE! This is fact!

The more we keep focusing on using our senses to feel nature around us, the closer we will get to the truth of what LIFE, including us, really is.

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Arthur Cristian

Let's keep expanding consciousness together, let's keep co-creating with SENSE together and all shall be revealed to us very shortly. Very few, if any of us know what shape Earth really is, what forces of consciousness are at play that keep Life/Earth together and whole without dissipation and erosion etc. Like everything else we have been unravelling from outside the square, the truth is just staring at us right now, its as clear as daylight, but we have been so addled with non-sense that our SENSE is like fractured light, split into zillions of singular rays, each ray distracted from another, all pushing away from each other, all unable to come together to restore wholeness, to restore truth.

Now that some of us are learning how to restore SENSE it's only a matter of us coming together using our brains to expand SENSE. As more and more of us unite/attune to wholeness again, our speed of thought (of sense) will accelerate so fast (metaphor) that whatever time and space non-sense kept us imprisoned in its CON-structed bullshit will no longer be able to contain us. We will be able to anticipate its dark-energy so much faster that we will always be able to be present to the presence of SENSE (light/consciousness/truth), and never again be imprisoned to the seductions of fiction, no longer trapped in the past or the future, no longer slaves to non-sense in the image of our own making.

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Arthur Cristian

‎@ Larry, it's more like what have you been smoking!

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Anna Galdorcræft

No but I can see the stars, the moon and the sun going past, it's a giant hint that we are spinning. And as we keep seeing different sides to planets I'm guessing they are spinning too, and the fact that we actually do see different sides of the sun is because we are going around it. Now the moon, that's not spinning, but I'm pretty sure we aren't orbiting it. Perhaps it is the centre of the universe?

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Elvis Azard

Talk about constructs and imagination! Ok so there is no proof of the shape of the Earth or our place in the universe, only what others have told us. I grant you that. BUT (!) what is your source of information that we were once 33 feet tall and could run at incredible speeds, or that the Earth had a water sack/canopy, or any of the other claims made? If we are not to believe NASA then what makes your ideas any more real? Where is your proof of the paradise our ancestors once lived in?

To me it just sounds like more Sew-Age BS, delivered from Aliens who live with Jesus and Elvis, and speak to Indigo Children through Buddha incarnated as a Dolphin.

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Daniel Kemp

You are using such a tool to communicate to us. Does this mean that the tool or mind construct should be ignored as NON SENSE.

The truth cannot be described much like an apple's taste cannot be described. I agree that we must experience all things in an of ourselves together to get to the truth. By relating our truth we expand our truth to eliminate doubts.

All tools such as math space time weights and measurements serve us well for now. And when and if we change we will drop them.

These tools help us identify with ourselves. We need them. You use them constantly yourself or you would not have these ideas to begin with!

Peace!

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Ram Ayana

Epistemology IS important; fair enough. How do we know what we know? I appreciate where you're coming from but must point out that your interpretation of photographic blurring is incorrect. We live on a spinning sphere in a spiral path around a spiraling path. I have witnessed all this with my senses and run the interpretations through the sieve of mind, and the result is close to what contemporary science avers - despite the fact that the universe is actually infinite, there was no big bang OR creation event, the cosmos is fundamentally electrical, not nuclear, and the unholy babble, like all religious texts, is a whopping lie and mostly misdirection. The greatest teachers of the past were only that, and we have better ones today - each other. The Earth is neither flat nor still - but the centre point of each of us is.

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Ann Sawyer

A lot of the things we "see" moving actually appear that way because our planet is actually the thing moving. Like the sun. We are moving around it.

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Arthur Cristian

‎@ Daniel.
In reference to your points of view please refer to the ongoing discussion we are having with Andrew here: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/08/08/03/same-sex-marriage-till-aids-d... (or scroll down this Facebook wall to find it) as we cover the ground of the information we'd use in response to your post, in great detail (more comments from us to be posted over the next few sunrises/sunsets). This saves us having to repeat everything again here.

Briefly, we are all severely compromised and this is the ONLY reason why we still use them. We have forgotten how to communicate without them and, while we are still slaves, we have to use the tools of enslavement to communicate with each other. Being content with these NON SENSE tools is to be content to be dumbed down, enslaved men and women.

Not disregarding having to survive in "The System", it is our need to be compliant to the dictates of "The System" with all its rules, regulations, rituals, procedures, conditions and contracts that keeps us using the tools of "The System" if we do not want to be met with the FORCE of "The System" and all the consequences of that.

This is the ONLY reason why we are all still using them.

It is NON-SENSE to think anything else. To think you are not a slave in "The System" is to be ignorant and in denial. Just don't pay your taxes, mortgages, rents, bills, fines, fees, penalties, tolls, licenses, registrations, certificates, deeds, passports, credit cards, bank charges, electricity, gas, petrol, telephones, internet, etc, and see what happens!

The only place where these man-made con-structs are needed and essential is in "The System" of commerce that is WONDERLAND, the MATRIX.

Almost all trapped in this illusion have to be deluded, fooled into thinking they are free and have freedom when they are not free at all because they are really SLAVES performing commercially as SLAVES, re-presenting all this "intellectual property" Non-Sense, slaving away their whole lives producing and giving up most of the fruits of their labour for the sole benefit of the owners of this "intellectual property", which they copyrighted.

The privileged Freemasonic/Satanic networks who administer and govern (rule over) "The System", on behalf of its owners, the Levite Priests, are the ones who benefit from these commercial spoils. Our articles posted since 1st September 2010 go into these subjects in great detail: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385

This chat with Brad includes bits and pieces of insights that we have been posting on Facebook that our articles go into in great detail. http://loveforlife.com.au/content/08/08/03/same-sex-marriage-till-aids-d...

As you say Daniel (with a few edits and inclusions from us): "All tools such as math, space, time, weights and measurements serve SLAVES well for now. And when and if SLAVES change we will drop them. These commercial tools help SLAVES identify with our commercial SLAVE status. SLAVES need them. You, a SLAVE, use them constantly as SLAVES or you would not have these ideas to begin with!"

Yes, in making things very clear Daniel, we actually agree with you! We were all braindirtied/brainwashed into claiming our commercial slave status and yes, we can all walk away from slavery if we are prepared to help each other do this here and now. We don't need any of this non-sense to live healthy, happy, free and abundant lives co-creating life with Nature peacefully without the need to do harm to any sensory life-form, inanimate or not.

As you say "And when and if we change we will drop them." - This is what we are here for, to show a way out of this slave-status non-sense, here and now. See this quickly put together 25 minute video: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7866

Again, our current discussion/debate with Andrew http://loveforlife.com.au/content/08/08/03/same-sex-marriage-till-aids-d... and the one we had with Min in the Gravity debate/discussion http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8177 go into all the non-sense side of things in great detail.

Most of us slaves don't think there is another way of living without all these fictions (see: Once Upon A Time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RasKY5xv6U) but we are here to say there is another way to live without being slaves, a way that has us all moving away from the fantasy, illusion and delusion currently plaguing billions of us every which way we turn. What we are doing is showing the way out of this HARM, having all of us who take Full-Responsibility for Life returning to co-creating SENSE-ory Paradise using ONLY our SENSE.

We are determined to inspire a mass exodus from "The System" of harm, non-sense, unconsciousness and lies back to nature, sense, truth, do-no-harm/consciousness.

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Arthur Cristian

‎@ Ann & Ram,

Your "claims" Ann and Ram are Non-Sense.

Prove what you are saying is true.

Many scientists, experts, etc, in debate with us have tried and have all failed miserably.

What about you?

Let's put your beliefs ("claims") to the test using scrutiny to see if they stack up.

This is not an attack on the living-sentient-sensory MAN (men, women, children whose flesh lives and blood flows) that you really are as we respect, protect and honour the sensory life of living-creator embodied in your physical forms, you are our living brothers/sisters/co-creators of Life. We intend no harm to you, however, scrutinising information that are not your unique thoughts is another matter.

Please bring forward proof of all your claims to back all your claims.

Our reply to Anna and Elvis to be posted straight after this comment fills in all the rest of the detail and we ask both of you to read and contemplate the information shared in all the recent Facebook debates/discussions, links posted in other comments in this thread above, as well as the articles, AND also please dig deep into this discussion about Gravity as well, will post the link below.

You will need to take us directly to the source where you got the 1st party to 1st party information from, i.e. "We live on a spinning sphere in a spiral path around a spiraling path. I have witnessed all this with my senses and run the interpretations through the sieve of mind, and the result is close to what contemporary science avers" AND "A lot of the things we "see" moving actually appear that way because our planet is actually the thing moving. Like the sun. We are moving around it."

Gravity
The Re-Presentation Of Another MAN's Thought
Or Reality?

A Facebook Discussion
With Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
During May 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8177

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‎@ Anna & Elvis

We tell everyone not to believe anything we say - to use their brains uniquely (not become re-peaters in our image) and go where the SENSE-ory-logic of truth takes them. Nature has so much sensory information to share with each of us uniquely, not one the same as the next, as have those 30 to 60 years strict raw-living-food eaters demonstrating how their bodies coped in conditions cooked/processed food eaters could not cope with or perform in. The skeletons of many bodies 14' and well beyond have been uncovered thousands of times over the last 400 years.

Just as the coordinated (co-order-innate d) efforts performed to cover up truths behind 9/11, 7/7, Bali-Bombings, Fluoride, Vaccinations, "Man On The Moon" etc, etc, "hundreds of thousands of lies", they have also been doing this with the many NON-SENSE distractions they invented like the "Annunaki", Shape-Shifting-Reptilians, etc, to have us not remember our true SENSORY heritage.

If you put the effort in and do your research, you will find many examples where intensely pressured/concentrated "oxygen" tests/experiments performed inside enclosed environments produced sensory life-forms such as tomatoes growing in sizes far beyond the "norms" of a tomato today - just one vine producing over 1,300 tomatoes, a vine that refused to stop growing and stop producing more fruits many months after the experiment began.

Do you think "dinosaurs" were the only ones who had the privilege of being "BIG"? Have you ever contemplated on the fact that most sensory Life-Forms of Nature were much bigger as the oxygen content of the air was far greater before the water canopy was burst? Most indigenous tribes across Earth, through word-of-mouth, passed down the true information of the "falling down" of water. i.e. the "40 days and nights" of torrential rain over Earth. Why is it that many hundreds of "old civilisations" are being discovered under water? To us this is ONLY the tip of the iceberg of what is buried under all oceans and seas.

For more on the water canopy, the effects of more oxygen in the air and more, see this video "The Killing of Paradise Planet" http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3082 by archaeologist Jonathan Gray here: he does peddle non-sense as well but there is a lot of factual sensory information to dive into as well.

The most important challenge for all of us is to have the courage to examine everything we have been taught and to see if we can find evidence of it through our SENSES.

Anna: You say, "I can see the stars, the moon and the sun going past, it's a giant hint that we are spinning." Or is it a giant hint that they are moving across or revolving around us/Earth? Trust your eyes; you can "see the stars, the moon and the sun going past". If we can see you going past us, are we moving or are you? As for planets, can we see them spinning? How do we know Earth is a "planet" and "spinning", therefore accepting and believing "The System" dictates that Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, etc, are planets spinning and therefore Earth, a planet, is spinning and moving around the Sun too? Do we see different sides of the sun because we are going round it or because it is going across or round us/Earth.

How do you know what they are Anna?

Have these Life-Forms told you what they are or are they thoughts coming from 3rd Parties who rammed their images of what these Life-Forms are?

With your own eyes, have you seen the solar system exactly the way it is depicted in drawings???

Let's think about whose thoughts we are thinking here. Are the thoughts you think about the sun, moon, starts, planets, Earth, etc, your unique thoughts that have arisen from direct contemplation and communication with the sun, moon, stars, planets and Earth? Or are they the thoughts of other man and women that you have been trained to remember and "Re-Present"?

Where are your unique thoughts Anna? What happened to them? Did you create any? Why is it that your thoughts, based on the discussions we have had with you thus far, are just other peoples thoughts", "A SAMENESS", and not yours? What does that say? And why are you defending other peoples thoughts about "planets", "Earth turning", "solar system", etc, when you can't incontrovertibly prove these images to be true?

Are you an individual (in-divide-u-all) created out of the same mould which billions of others were created out of or are you really unique? To be unique you must have/create unique thoughts and to create unique thoughts means you have contemplated on sensory Life to inspire your unique thoughts into making.

This scrutinising of all information and going where the sensory logic of truth uniquely takes us all is critical and is key to unlocking and deprogramming the the hypnotic "spells" cast over billions of us here and now. "Whose Thoughts Are You Thinking" Anna, when you post them in such discussions here on Facebook? Again, the many Facebook debates/discussions and articles we have posted, links provided above or can be found here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385

Before you doubt that we have the capacity to contemplate on and communicate with other SENSE-ory LIFE forms of LIFE and/or think that we are the best we can be, remember that we only use anywhere between 1% and for the lucky few up to 10% of our brains; what do you think the rest is for? And the fact that we have all this currently unused brain suggests that we once used all of it or why would we have it?

Elvis: We agree with you about Sew-Age information, as you call it. It is just a distraction to keep us from the truth about who we really are, what we are really part of and our true purpose and to keep us looking for something or someone else to take responsibility for the mess we have caused. Maybe some of the information we share is not true (yet to be proven that it is not) but the important thing is to wake up to the fact that we have been lied to big time in every way imaginable and that we need to keep sifting, sifting, sifting the truth from the lies of NON-SENSE until all we are left with is truth (SENSE). This is what we are doing, what we stand for and are about.

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Arthur Cristian

‎@ Anna, Daniel, Ram & Ann

All the NON-SENSE that is going on is to make us think and feel that there are bigger, more powerful forces out there than us and that we are at the effect of those forces, including that we have no effect on the "universe" with its vast galaxies, distances and unknowns. This illusion is the out that allows us to pass on the responsibility for the mess we are making, here & now, to these greater, mysterious forces and carry on doing harm, harm and more harm, blindfolding and ear-muffing our real lives to the fact that we are all heading for total destruction!

Thus, we don't worry about what we are doing on Earth because we are going to Jesus when we "die" or we are going to be beamed up by the Galactic Federation and all will be perfect and wonderful. Or we just die and that's it, swept up by the big-bang roller coaster that turns our dead-corpses into whatever non-sense the "experts" dredge up.

Just one example of many, the Christian brainwashing As Above - So Below, Heaven and Hell illusion with Heaven having hierarchies from Archangels down to cherubs, massages our brains to accept the hierarchies of "The System" to rule over us as slaves here & now, even though we all know that all men, women and children are equal and that no MAN is master of another MAN. The believers in Christ Consciousness, The Galactic Federation, Ramtha Channeling, etc, all New Age info, contains the same psychological As Above - So Below slave status terrorist attacks. Duality in all its forms is a scam and all information requiring us to re-present is the practise of duality at play. Please read this article:

Re-Presenting Is The Pull Of Duality
Into False Consciousness
Unravelling Lies And Liars

And The Remedy To The Lies
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
19th April 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8129

History has also been severely re-written to tell us that we have gone from being dumb, stupid Neanderthals struggling the "dark ages" to being really clever intellectuals (so clever we are destroying everything) and that we have gone from lives of slavery, war & chaos to living peacefully in "democracies" where we have the freedom to do what we want - so long as it agrees with those behind "The System", of course!

All this brainwashing makes us happy, contented slaves who don't resist. These As Above - So Below psychological terrorist attacks on all of us is why we remain passive and compliant to "The System" and when we experience and endure chaos we are the sheeple moving from an old enclosure into another and yes, we close all the gates behind us and al around us so that we remain as slaves.

There is no other reason why all this non-sense information exists. They use Non-Sense to rule us with Non-Sense - it is very important for them that all around us, the slaves, no matter which we turn, there is only non-sense information, services and systems so we do not realise that there is anything else.

It is the non-sense that disconnects us from sense, Earth being a planet, spinning around amongst many spinning planets, all going around a sun of many suns, all going around each other as part of a galaxy of many galaxies, all going around each other as part of a universe of many universes, all going around each other as part of....... is the non-sense that has you accept your slave status here and now, to be ruled by FORCE.

The smart ones have provided all slaves with an escape out of the illusion but it really ain't an escape at all, but another deception, because their children and great grand children will remain as slaves under the FORCE of their slave-masters children and great grand-children, all in the same image of their ancestors way of life, a history which tells them why they must remain who they are in "The System", regardless how many times "The System" keeps changing and adapting its facade.

Please read the articles here because we explain all this in great detail. http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385

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Jonathan Finlayson

I think that this link explains a lot.

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Jonathan Finlayson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2G0Llp5-8U&feature=related

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Arthur Cristian

LOL - LOL - LOL - The Badger Song - Talk about Drones In Fantasy Under Trauma And Fear Bouncing to the beat that controls them - Badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger

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Ann Sawyer

You are absolutely right, Arthur, I cannot personally prove what I am saying. There are lots of things I cannot prove without doubt - that what my eyes see is what other people see, that most people are basically good at heart, that there are great miraculous beauties in the world (I don't mean people!), that there is more to people and many animals than be seen or felt (soul, personality, whatever one wants to call it). But it does seem to me that the alignment of the planets, especially the rotation of the earth around the sun, was studied and believed by scientists of long ago who, I don't think, would have had as the agenda to let people ruin the earth by tricking them into believing these things about the solar system. Not that I don't believe the government can lie to us. I don't know, I'm not sure that any ideas about the universe can be proven by non-scientists like me. It is good to question things instead of taking in predigested information like a baby bird takes in food, but it seems we can spend our whole lives speculating on these things and never really prove anything beyond a shadow of a doubt. Seems like we have to accept some things so we can do the things we need to do, learn new information, etc.

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Link: http://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/2123061324182

The Outcomes Of Our Lives Are The Thoughts We Think

The Outcomes Of Our Lives Are The Thoughts We Think
The Bible Is A Self-Fulfilling Prophecy


A Facebook Discussion/Debate
With Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
27th June 2011

Link: http://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/2176328095818

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Arthur Cristian

The outcomes of our lives are the thoughts we think. If our ancestors are exposed to the prophecies of the Bible & their descendants are exposed to them as well the collective power of all the men women & children thinking & feeling this information (IMAGES) & putting their Life-Force-Energy into these images are collectively creating these outcomes. It is Self-Fulfilling. We, MAN, are creating everything going wrong

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Arthur Cristian

The outcomes of our lives are the thoughts we think. If our ancestors are exposed to the prophecies of the bible and their descendants are exposed to them as well, the collective power of all the men, women and children thinking and feeling this information (IMAGES) and putting their Life-Force-Energy into these images, are collectively creating these outcomes.

It is ALL Self-Fulfilling.

We, MAN, are creating everything going wrong.

If they can get you to think and feel what they want you to think and feel and get you to put your life-energy into these thoughts you will create that world, "their world". Slaves willingly create a world in their masters image without realising.

The Bible is a blue-print of MANS destruction - all who follow its dictates are responsible for the billions of men, women and children committing spiritual suicide.

It is so easy to blame everything going wrong on something else "out there", whatever fantasy, illusory image you want to pass all your responsibilities on to ------ all the while the full-responsibility for life was always at our/your feet.

Life is in our image, if you can't comprehend this and the full-responsibilities that come with this, then you need help before it is too late. Once you forget who you really are, what you are really part of and your true purpose for Life, it is all over forevermore. There is no turning back for the lost.

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We are the Life-Force Energy.

There is nowhere we are not.

Imagine Life is a bubble (metaphor): Living-Creator thought out the dream of Life in great detail and then held all this information in focus to put its Life into the dream of Life, giving Life to the dream, the bubble. The presence of Living-Creator is always present (pre - sent). We are that presence (pre-SENSE) and we are the Only ones present to all the thoughts living creator created, IF, we remember who we really are, what we are part of and our true purpose.

Our thoughts PRE-SENT (present) the PRE-SENSE (presence) of Living-Creator. We are creating Life in the image of our making. We sense the thoughts of LIFE and the thoughts we have are what we create. We put the present into the image we think and feel, be it SENSE or NON-SENSE.

The masters of all deception are the black-magic warlocks and witches skilled in remote projection, remote viewing and remote control. They put thoughts in your brain and get you to think that it is your brain creating them. This is how MAN fell from SENSE (consciousness/life/reality/do no harm) into NON-SENSE (unconsciousness/fiction/fantasy/illusion/delusion/doing harm).

The Zionists, the Illuminati, the Jews, etc, are all "out there" scapegoats to pass the buck, the blame, on to but all the while it is us serving these Satanic thoughts.

Behind all costumes and titles is MAN and behind everything going wrong with Life are thoughts created and given Life-Energy to by Man (us).

Without MAN, life does not exist.

Who is there to think and feel the information of Life if MAN does not exist?

Note: no MAN can hear the question to answer it, so again: Who is there to think and feel the information of Life if MAN does not exist?

All information of the past and the future needs MAN to exist here and now to think and feel this information. Without MAN existing here and now, the information of the past and the future cannot be thought or felt.

WE, MAN, are the Co-Creators of the dream of Life. We are the Life in the dream of Life. Where our thoughts go, so goes the world (the bubble).

Again, everything going wrong with the dream of Life is created by MAN, by our Androgynous brothers/sisters of LIFE.

All of MAN that ever was or ever will be is who you/we really are here and now.

The consciousness (SENSE - pre-SENSE) of Living-Creator is the consciousness of MAN.

There is no separation between MAN and MAN.

Time and space do not exist.

We are not on a journey heading from somewhere to somewhere neither are we tiny aspects of the universe at the effects of greater forces than us. This is all Satanic/Freemasonic Non-Sense.

It was and still is our lost-brothers-sisters of Life rebelling against their own who caused all this non-sense that led to us all giving our Life-Force-Energy to these Satanic thoughts not of the dream of Life,

An extract from the beginning "We Are The Life Of The Dream Of Life" - September 2010 - here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7417

"In an unbroken thread from our ancestors to our descendants, every feeling and thought we have is created as the dream of LIFE bouncing back in the image of our feelings and thoughts. There is nowhere in LIFE that are feelings and thoughts that are not painted on the canvas of LIFE. The feelings and thoughts of the information of the dream of LIFE are the feelings and thoughts of our ancestors and will be the feelings and thoughts of our descendants when we remember Paradise. We are all brothers and sisters, co-creators of the painting of LIFE.

Everything that is happening to LIFE is what we are painting collectively on the canvas of LIFE through our feelings and thoughts. The pictures we paint with our feelings and thoughts bounce back at us in the image of our feelings and thoughts. All the wars, the storms, tsunamis, fires, earthquakes, droughts and floods, violence, bitterness, hatred and rage, poverty, homelessness, malnutrition, sickness, injustice, disease and suffering, loneliness, loss-of-direction, emptiness and hopelessness, lies, secrets and collusion, fantasies, illusions and delusions, arrogance, ignorance, indifference, self-righteousness, lust, abuse and jealousy, greed, selfishness, power and control trips, self-centeredness and chaos are the result of the way we are feeling and thinking. We have changed the painting of paradise to a painting of distortion and destruction.

We are both artist and audience, feeling, thinking and painting the images that come back at us in the form of all the harm, destruction and distortion in our lives. Everything ever felt and thought by MAN has been created by us. The original painting of Paradise that is the dream of LIFE has been covered over by layers and layers of paint depicting images of "The System" that represent the distortion in the form of fantasy, illusion and delusion, the root of all harm, chaos and destruction to LIFE."

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Arthur Cristian

The Bible Is SELF-Fulfilling - it has no power - we give the information contained in the bible the power by thinking its thoughts and giving our life-force energy to therm = self-fulfilling. Here is a link to our latest Facebook discussion which provides links to many others: http://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/2123061324182

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‎"The Thought Of God Is Not God"

"The Bible" is not God or the "living word of God"; this is all Satanic/Freemasonic Non-Sense. The Bible does not make us loving and caring - we already have that natural ability. The Bible cannot be responsible for making you loving and caring - only YOU can choose to act that way. The Bible is a pile of paper, with typing on, bound together.

The Bible cannot do anything for the living, you can't eat it or drink it, and it does not make the sun shine. Nothing of nature needs the bible to exist so that it may exist. Where can we go to visit "Bible" so we can sit around, have a chat while having a bite to eat, a drink and a few laughs? Where are its ancestors buried and where do its children play. What does the Bible do for life that aids life in rolling along here and now? The Bible is just a destroyed mountain, valley, hill, forest, etc. The Bible is NON-SENSE while MAN, Nature, Living-Creator is SENSE.

You need to comprehend the use of duality in all its forms because the Freemasonic/Satanic world traps you with their "spells' using duality to put you under their "spells". They suck you in to thinking Non-Sense so that you will forget/fall-away from SENSE. They CON (seduce/tempt) you into Re-Presenting their thoughts/images/symbols so that you can be under-their-standing (understand) - understand their meanings.

Please read: "Re-Presenting Is The Pull Of Duality Into False Consciousness" http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8129

Living-Creator is not a him or her or a he or a she. Living-Creator is androgynous just as Nature, Earth, MAN (us), is androgynous.

All "Rules Of The Divide" are Non-Sense. All man-made con-structs are Satanic thoughts (images - symbols), i.e. time, space, past, future, location, dimension, weights, measurements, commercial values, levels, plains, etc, and this includes ALL thoughts that come out of mathematics and geometry, i.e, A, B, C, 1, 2, 3, compass, square, etc. This is what the Bible is crafted out of, these trademarks of Satanism.

Mathematics and geometry are Satanic/Freemasonic inventions. ALL read and write alphabet languages being used, ancient or not, are Satanic/Freemasonic. None of this information exists or has SENSE - it is all made up out of thin air = NON-SENSE.

This is all part of "The Rules Of The Divide" (THEIR DIVIDE). The Bible is a Freemasonic/Satanic instrument that is made up of geometry, mathematics and read-and-write-alphabet languages. The brilliant, clever tactics the Satanists use to deceive the people are all documented in our articles and many Facebook/Email discussions/debates.

Yes, there are many morally correct truths in the Bible but there are many lies entwined around the truths as well. We recognise truth (SENSE) and so accept the lies (NON-SENSE) which do all the damage. They provide you with heaps of truths and hide the lies amongst them and, in accepting all the truths into your life, you mistakenly accept the lies into your life as well (we do this chronically with drinking corrupted water, air, soil, minerals, nutrition, foods, sweets, vaccinations, dentistry, media, law, politics, etc, etc) and it is the lies (Non-Sense) causing all the damage down-the-line.

Why do you think Earth/Nature is getting closer and closer to extinction? With all the hundreds of millions of Bibles out there and circulating across "their" recorded ages and all the other "holy books", texts, papyri, scrolls and tablets, all written in read and write alphabet languages/symbols/images, circulating across Earth, how come we are now close to extinction? The Bible and the reading of the Bible is doing nothing to stop this. All this chaos is man-made Non-Sense. Living-Creator, its essence being all the virtues of Love at play, has nothing to do with all this harm.

Since 2005, we have debated with the best of them, many of them, and we keep challenging theologians, "biblical experts", believers in the bible, the clergy, etc. Most of them end up running away with their tails between their legs. While we remain, calm, peaceful, loving, sincere, caring, etc, many of them end up becoming personal and start attacking us with hatred, aggression, arrogance ignorance, righteousness, and indifference.

All information needs to be tested through scrutiny but most people cling to their "spells" which are all the beliefs, faiths and associated opinions they "own" and protect. They only look for information that supports, protects and expands their beliefs while disregarding all other information that comes their way, new or not. In the middle of the word belief is the word lie.

If you want to explore this work of scrutiny, for starters read these recent/current Facebook debates/discussions: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8177 - http://loveforlife.com.au/content/08/08/03/same-sex-marriage-till-aids-d... and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/08/08/03/same-sex-marriage-till-aids-d... - and the "Re-Presenting" article mentioned above provides links to many other debates/discussions on duality etc: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8129

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Benny Priest

Would love a chat sometime soon my brother, Many exciting possibilities ahead,
Next time I am near a landline I will let you know.

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Alan Dorchak

LOVE IT LIVE IT!

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Arthur Cristian

Look forward to it Benny.

Love & Hugs From Us to both of you xxx

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Arthur Cristian

Alan, Yep, lets get on with it - lets take full-responsibility

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James Leslie

ommg energy , force on 14th jan 1933 the biggest team on earth took the biggest upset ever , and that energy force was grandad against the odds . last night i find the original elizabeth st clair , daughter of william had 3 children through her marraige to andrew leslie , she had john , goerge and William all Leslie , now me grandad s george william john , and he told me to turn the energy on nimrod . but we are fcuking nimrod , and the William Leslie bloke is related to parker bowls and diana very possibly so . nasa are the nazi s , armstrong never got to the moon . and so man has never been there since . i used to like music , but now i know who musicians are , equity card holders , i dont really like em no more . Arthur the uk royal family seems rela6ted to attila as leslie is and worse they picked up the hashishians on the way , some one somewhere has given me an impossible redemption , maybe madly pot dont let these bleambeam frequencys get to you so bad . i want to be a good man, the more i look the more i see i dint want to be a god man , it all looks owned . he seems more interested in members than being good ,. maybe i should just be charging me nimrod force just up lie you say to return o boy o boy , i got energy , i got the energy to uoset the world orders applecart . they just have a certain amount of families and keep re breeding . i mean im bloody odd to a lot whats around me , cannabos smokers a few year back where dead excentric , they aint no more trust me , i know me pot , arthur cheers for being a m8 . i was never let in so much was a damn fine salesman in boom town , who was nt lol , and then i had me boy put in care and i went to court with many bust s for just pot nothing else . i ve got bad , when the chips were down , i was the only one left and i seen this line they abandoned their most ultimate warrior alexander . i am there terroist tribe , but in many ways i ant this lot on the grounds of cicvic responsibilities , i feel civic duty for the poor unfortuante plebs who are brainwashed , i feel strong like i never felt before , i ll never follow trends . grandad i know who you are , and you taught me to go against em , i never faught at school , i was not now a pacisift , and my fear not losing at violence but winning , cause ill eat the fcukers lol . peace and like the romans , i ve learnt we got one arrow left . i know she is gonna be one of them , but i like the story of boudicea going at dans romans . and always think they sent the one with the native cornish and orkney blood to as far away on this rock as one can get , we livemin the lands of robert kett . if they give us workhouse once again , then i solemnly do swaer , i will show em the ludd in me , peace lets hope it dont happen . it gives me horror , lear is israels lears spear , leslie brought christs fake dan cross 1067 with st clair , and and me mrs clan shaw brought israels stone , as jacob chantged his name . i ant anti any body bar me own at the top . now i tracked both shakespear and centuries later edward lear , the dude i ment to be distantly related too , they both centuries apart were put in with the stanley s the lord derby s . i kill a few many stand behind its futile , so any one in my direct way , i ask you nice please please move , if not now i will have to make myself do something i dont want to . i believe in peace not me satanik ancient ancestors . all religions are now at the hip artur , i got a faith but its not heriarchy bud . i still search . i still feel fated bud . my arsenal 1933 aint happend yet lol . peace cheers for your mind m8!

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Arthur Cristian

You have unique thoughts James.
A great sign you are using your brain.

What I posted last night is relevant here.

Will post it below.

Love Arthur

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We only have to bounce back the curses to their makers while co-creating living examples of community/tribal living out-in-the-open for all to see, demonstrating the walk-the-talk that Life is the Gift of Life and we are that Gift of Life in the dream of Life. Love is Life and Life is Love. We are Love and we are Life.

Running and hiding away, etc, from Earth Changes will only attract it to you wherever you are.

We are all responsible for all the harm to nature (cities, concrete, plastic, telecommunications, transport, bitumen, sciences, etc,) and these curses will come back to their makers to be made whole.

It's through love (Gifts of Life) that we restore/embody love where love is presently missing/ignored/rejected.

This means we all have to give up the me, me, me, mine, mine, mine, i, i, i, own, own, own, over everything we claim, including our lives, and start being in service to each other as gifts of love/life for each other. This is the way of nature, of life, of love and of truth, etc.

Life is a team effort, just as love is a team effort, just as truth, freedom, peace, joy, abundance and do no harm to all of life is a team effort.

The creatures live for the forest and the forest takes care of all the creatures and all together they maintain and expand the perfection of life. Men, women and children live for the tribe and the tribe takes care of everyone and all together they maintain and expand the perfection of life.

Do you have to jump ten feet across a room to grab your next breath? Of course not, Life, Love, already takes care of everything we need in the moment, so why are we clinging to "ownership" over anything and everything of Life?

We can't "own" anything of Life without dying/falling from sense/consciousness/do-no-harm into unconsciousness/non-sense/harm.

We can't own (not let go) our last breath, drink or meal without dying, what do you think happens to us when we "own" "intellectual property" which we do through beliefs, faiths and associated opinions??? We fall from sense into a non-sense state.

Only curses make us fall from sense into non-sense.

We have to stop being the cancer of harm that spreads which we do when we worship all the information of self-centeredness that makes us greedy, selfish and self-centered. All forms of self-centeredness are curses and is the darkness (unconsciousness) we spread as we indulge in our self-centeredness.

The remedy is not in stockpiling and creating bunkers inside caves for me, me, me, mine, mine, mine, i, i, i, own, own, own?

Why are we running away from Love/Life that we already really are?

We are the power of Life and we, MAN, are the only ones who can fix this mess we have all created/contributed to.

It is gifts of Life that are acts of Love which we all should be creating all our waking lives as gifts of life/love to serve each other with, this is how we change chaos back into paradise.

When two love each other the love each creates for each other bounces back to each partner twofold. Imagine when 100 or 500 or 1000 of us bounce love back to each other as a tribe/community/village, it comes back not only 100 or 500 or 1000 to each of us, it also starts bouncing back 10,000, 250,000 and 1 million times to all of us.

So why would you want to hide in a cave or cower away from the fear of FORCE of those behind "The System"????

Where is the Love For Life in all of this???

Why are we denying who we really are???

We cannot own Love/Life, we can only create love/life and bounce it off each other and nature which we do when all our thoughts are pure and sincere and all are intended as acts of love to serve others with these gifts of life.

We know what the remedy is and how to apply it. We've spent six years on remedy, focusing on this 16 hours per day, 7 days per week of almost all this time since March 2005. We only found the last of the missing pieces around 6 months ago. We have written so much about all of this. Please read and contemplate on the information we share: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385

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James Leslie

cardinal beaton was murdered by the ones with the same names as us today , not sure of this , they are nimrod , but they say levite , is this as i say they killed levite and wear his clothes . levite is a preacher so the scots preachers killed the english preacher.

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In response to this post from last night:

"We only have to bounce back the curses to their makers while co-creating living examples of community/tribal living out-in-the-open for all to see, demonstrating the walk-the-talk that Life is the Gift of Life and we are that Gift of Life in the dream of Life. Love is Life and Life is Love. We are Love and we are Life.

Running and hiding away, etc, from Earth Changes will only attract it to you wherever you are.

We are all responsible for all the harm to nature (cities, concrete, plastic, telecommunications, transport, bitumen, sciences, etc,) and these curses will come back to their makers to be made whole.

It's through love (Gifts of Life) that we restore/embody love where love is presently missing/ignored/rejected.

This means we all have to give up the me, me, me, mine, mine, mine, i, i, i, own, own, own, over everything we claim, including our lives, and start being in service to each other as gifts of love/life for each other. This is the way of nature, of life, of love and of truth, etc.

Life is a team effort, just as love is a team effort, just as truth, freedom, peace, joy, abundance and do no harm to all of life is a team effort.

The creatures live for the forest and the forest takes care of all the creatures and all together they maintain and expand the perfection of life. Men, women and children live for the tribe and the tribe takes care of everyone and all together they maintain and expand the perfection of life.

Do you have to jump ten feet across a room to grab your next breath? Of course not, Life, Love, already takes care of everything we need in the moment, so why are we clinging to "ownership" over anything and everything of Life?

We can't "own" anything of Life without dying/falling from sense/consciousness/do-no-harm into unconsciousness/non-sense/harm.

We can't own (not let go) our last breath, drink or meal without dying, what do you think happens to us when we "own" "intellectual property" which we do through beliefs, faiths and associated opinions??? We fall from sense into a non-sense state.

Only curses make us fall from sense into non-sense.

We have to stop being the cancer of harm that spreads which we do when we worship all the information of self-centeredness that makes us greedy, selfish and self-centered. All forms of self-centeredness are curses and is the darkness (unconsciousness) we spread as we indulge in our self-centeredness.

The remedy is not in stockpiling and creating bunkers inside caves for me, me, me, mine, mine, mine, i, i, i, own, own, own?

Why are we running away from Love/Life that we already really are?

We are the power of Life and we, MAN, are the only ones who can fix this mess we have all created/contributed to.

It is gifts of Life that are acts of Love which we all should be creating all our waking lives as gifts of life/love to serve each other with, this is how we change chaos back into paradise.

When two love each other the love each creates for each other bounces back to each partner twofold. Imagine when 100 or 500 or 1000 of us bounce love back to each other as a tribe/community/village, it comes back not only 100 or 500 or 1000 to each of us, it also starts bouncing back 10,000, 250,000 and 1 million times to all of us.

So why would you want to hide in a cave or cower away from the fear of FORCE of those behind "The System"????

Where is the Love For Life in all of this???

Why are we denying who we really are???

We cannot own Love/Life, we can only create love/life and bounce it off each other and nature which we do when all our thoughts are pure and sincere and all are intended as acts of love to serve others with these gifts of life.

We know what the remedy is and how to apply it. We've spent six years on remedy, focusing on this 16 hours per day, 7 days per week of almost all this time since March 2005. We only found the last of the missing pieces around 6 months ago. We have written so much about all of this. Please read and contemplate on the information we share: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 "

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Ashiya Austin posted this comment:

If it is true that a pole shift is going to happen and this is about to occur, according to the elders who hold the knowledge as well as being guardians of the tribes..we need to do everything we can to survive and to THEN create the new way of being.

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We replied to Ashiya Austin:

There is no pole shift - this is all NON-SENSE - Earth is having a fever because of us, the way we think, feel and act. Earth is in our collective image - change the way we think and take full-responsibility for them, Earth changes. The whole of creation/Life is in our image. We are the co-creators of Life. We are creation. We are the birds, the trees, the soil, the mountains, the air, the sun, the sky, etc, There is nowhere we are not. We are LIFE. We are the power, we just have to take full-responsibility for who we really are, what we are really part of and our true purpose and stop passing the buck onto NON-SENSE. Love, peace, truth, freedom, joy, abundance and do no harm for all of life.

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Ashiya Austin replied:

So then Arthur..WHAT is the huge object coming at us from behind the sun?

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Arthur Cristian

We replied to Ashiya:

We are creating it - just as we create the foreign objects in our body called disease that spreads.

LIFE is OUR LIVING BODY; what you are seeing (sensing) is the crystallising of all our collective impure and insincere thoughts and feelings (IMAGES) congregating and bouncing back at us, in the image of our projections.

Imagine you are inside your flesh and blood body. You notice a tiny speck, a black-grey thing in the distance, hanging around your liver. As the days go by you notice it growing bigger. As the weeks go by it is getting bigger and bigger as it spreads out, reaching closer to you. As the months go by it starts getting very big, it's now looming above you casting darkness all around as it blocks out all the light. And then shortly BANG, its upon you.

Now imagine we, MAN, all of us, co-creating the living-body of Life as a team effort. Everything you see including all celestial bodies are your body's organs, glands, tissues, ligaments, cells, fluids, blood, bones, hair, etc, etc, and, with all of us together, making up the living-body-of-Life, no different to your flesh and blood body.

Everything happening in this living body of LIFE happens because we are creating it. Just as we create the cancer in our bodies through what we eat, drink and take in through our skin, and through all the impure and insincere thoughts, feelings and actions, so we create everything of LIFE through our thoughts and feelings. Collectively all the information of harm-doing to life is embodied in an image of harm.

The more of us who focus on the same image the more the information contained in that image expands and expands because we are telling this image to expand. If the information of Planet X, Nibiru, etc, did not exist and all the information that coveted all negative-destructive thoughts and feelings which do harm to MAN, Life, Earth, Nature, did not exist either, then we would be living in Paradise because the only information that existed for us to think and feel was of Paradise.

The world of "The System", however, is filled with thoughts and feelings of greed, anger, hatred, distrust, loneliness, unhappiness, despair, destruction, fantasy, illusion & delusion, righteousness, arrogance, ignorance, indifference, fear, trauma, power, control, and all the other negative, destructive emotions that are currently swirling around us all.

LIFE is all there is. There is nowhere that is not LIFE for all these thoughts and feelings to go. They do not just disappear because we have imbued them with our LIFE energy. All the negative, destructive thoughts and feelings that we think and feel today merge with all the negative, destructive thoughts and feelings of our ancestors and, just as the cancerous cells amass and multiply, so the thoughts and feelings have become Nibiru.

LIFE is in the image of the thoughts and feelings we put or energy into; if we want to create Paradise, we had better start learning to focus on the thoughts and feelings that create Paradise, taking responsibility for the mess we have all caused and repairing the damage as we learn.

Refer to the other posts about Self-Fulfilling Prophecies, etc, that are posted below (all posted above in this thread).

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Link: http://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/2176328095818

"Is The Earth Not Spherical?" - Google Image Of Flat Earth?

How On Earth Was This Image Made

By Robert Simmon
25th March 2003
NASA Earth Observatory

Link To This NASA Article
or try
NASA.gov/vision/earth/lookingatearth/Detective_Work.html

Fiona & Arthur Cristian - Love For Life.com.au ask... "Is The Earth Not Spherical?"

"Is The Earth Not Spherical?"
Google Image Of Flat Earth?


A Facebook Discussion
With Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
24th to 26th June 2011

Link: http://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/163364687064191

This image presents a remarkable view of the North Atlantic Ocean, stretching from the equator and western Africa northward to Iceland and Greenland, with sunset occurring over Scandinavia, France, Spain, Algeria, Mali, and the Ivory Coast. As you look at this image, think for a moment about how it was made. Is it a photograph? If so, was it taken from space? Is it a painting, a map, or something else?

Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8207

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Anna Galdorcræft

More likely it is a serious of cloudless photos doctored together and straightened, with various filters applied, it is a lot easier than one might think. I have read the article, it is interesting, but it doesn't explain why home astronomers such as my brother and friends, one of which who has the biggest home observatory in Qld, can see spherical planets with their telescopes. Nasa can't doctor our eye sight. If the earth were a bowl, our horizon would bend the opposite direction, and as for motion blur when photographing the earth, if we have the technology to photograph a humming bird in flight we can photograph a still of the earth. The article seems to encourage the narcissistic views of old, reverting back to religious ideals of us being so very important, with the universe revolving around us, rather than us being a speck in a multiverse.

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Arthur Cristian

We are the heart of all of Life Anna. Without us, MAN, Life, the dream of Life will not exist.

Please refer to the Facebook discussions posted here: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/08/08/03/same-sex-marriage-till-aids-d... and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8177 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/08/08/03/same-sex-marriage-till-aids-d... - These discussions and this article: "Re-Presenting Is The Pull Of Duality Into False Consciousness - Unravelling Lies And Liars And The Remedy To The Lies" By Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life 19th April 2011: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8129 - will explain why we are saying this: It's obvious why all forms of technology (prosthetics) cannot reveal truth.

Also, almost all telescopes use convex lenses, try using a flat lens with no concave or convex flickerings through the glass.

Also, how do you know what you are looking at are planets?

Also, we, Fiona and Arthur, are not saying that Earth is a bowl shape or is flat or whatever because we really don't know yet, but what we do know, is that so far since 1997, we have found no incontrovertible evidence that proves a MAN in a ship, rocket, satellite, hot-weather balloon, plane, or not, has gone non-stop from north to south back to north again or visa-versa and documented such a journey around Earth without pause. We can't find any shred of sensory evidence.

We liken Earth more like a sprouting/expansion outwards of consciousness, just like a seed explodes into a massive tree of Life. That Earth is MAN and MAN is Earth and without MAN this dream of Life will no longer exist.

We sense that most definitely we are not tiny aspects of a universe at the effect of greater forces than us (thats what the lying Satanists/Freemasons want us to believe), and, we are most definitely not on a journey heading from somewhere to somewhere, (which again, the deceiving colluding Freemasons/Satanists want us to believe).

We say, that all we see, including all celestial bodies, is our living body of Life, no different to the bones, blood, organs and glands in your body being part of your whole body of Life.

Anyway, we have tested all this information, both non-sense and sense, in heaps of debates/discussions thus far and no one can fault the information we are sharing, and yet we are finding thousands of faults in whatever man-made con-structs are brought forward to be used as supposed evidence to back their claims be it any aspect of science or occults or esoterics or belief systems.

If you or your brother would like to debate so together we can peacefully and lovingly test all the information thoroughly through scrutiny, and all-together, go where the logic of truth takes us all, will be very helpful for all of us. Unless we test all information how will we ever know the information anyone believes in is true or not and if it is non-sense, that they realise they have been conned, misled, used and abused.. Most people won't do this, they prefer to hang on to their belief systems at all costs and ignore all other new information that comes along.

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Anna Galdorcræft

What about East to West and every other direction though, North and South is one of an almost infinite number of pathways? If there was an edge to our earth I think we would have found it by now, enough people have sailed and flown in many directions, that it would be nigh on impossible not to have found an edge or a bowl's waterfall effect.

I am very much about revealing the illusion, but I'm not sure that this is not grasping at straws, especially when using an image which is obviously doctored together, as someone who studied computer graphics at university, I can tell you that the image is most likely a flattened composite and not really something that could count as evidence. And in all that, it doesn't explain our horizon, no matter how you pose it, if we are a bowl then someone has to have a concave horizon, and nobody does, neither do they have a flat horizon...anywhere. And ruling out the hollow earth theory rules out centuries of people's personal experiences.

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Arthur Cristian

Well, lets keep expanding consciousness together Anna, lets keep co-creating with SENSE together and all shall be revealed to us very shortly. Very few, if any of us know what real shape Earth is, what forces of consciousness are at play that keeps Life/Earth together and whole without dissipation and erosion etc. Like everything else we have been unravelling from outside the square, the truth is just staring at us right now, its as clear as daylight, but we have been so addled with non-sense that our SENSE is like fractured light, split into zillions of singular rays, each ray distracted from another, all pushing away from each other, all unable to come together to restore wholeness, to restore truth.

Now that some of us are learning how to restore SENSE it's only a matter of us coming together using our brains to expand SENSE. As more and more of us unite/attune to wholeness again, our speed of thought (of sense) will accelerate so fast (metaphor) that whatever time and space non-sense kept us imprisoned in its CON-structed bullshit, will no longer be able to contain us. We will be able to anticipate its dark-energy so much faster, that we will always be able to be present to the presence of SENSE (light/consciousness/truth), and never again be imprisoned to the seductions of fiction, no longer trapped in the past or the future, no longer slaves to non-sense in the image of our own making.

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Anna Galdorcræft

Next you'll be saying we are a bowl sitting on turtle's back. There is a point where sense is taken too far into nonsense. For your hypothesis to be true, the earth would have to stop spinning to produce night and day and the sun, and it's entire solar system would be orbiting us, because we are THAT important - that is pure archaic narcissism, the sort of thinking that religions were built on. And even though we are at the very edge of the milky way, it is probably spinning around us too?

It is simply too narcissistic to be true and detracts from experience, how is it that no one has found our flipside then? Not all intrepid explorers are funded by illuminati coffers. You cannot tell me that in our entire existence we have by shear luck or stupidity, never found the edge to our bowl. This isn't just about the poles, for us to be flat, it would mean you could not navigate the world East to West and that, has been done time and again, flights criss cross this globe 24 hours a day 7 days a week. What countries could possible be near the edge and not notice?

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Arthur Cristian

Hi Anna, you are making some claims we have not claimed to be true or stated we believe in. Nobody can prove Earth is spinning or that it is going around the Sun - no one. It's all just theory/fantasy/illusion.

No expert can prove this Google photo has been doctored either. They have had almost 4 years since we became aware of it to disprove it. In our networks, particularly the Love For Life mailing list which reaches over half a million readers, we have many experts in these fields, some involved with Hollywood special effects, as members, and yet, no one has been able to come forward to prove this photo has been doctored. No One!

The idea earth has an edge or has a bowl is not our belief, they come from others (3rd parties) but again no one can prove or disprove this idea either. This information could be spot on.

The idea we are at the very edge of the milky way is NON-SENSE as well - no one hardly knows where we are or what we are part of and how life/reality all really works and comes together.

The idea that Earth is a planet, part of a solar system of many planets all going around a sun is NON-0SENSE too - are just ideas/theories.

No one can prove planets exist, yet alone galaxies and universes.

No one can prove A, B, C or 1, 2, 3 or compass or square exist either.

The fact is they do not exist.

They can't exist because they have no SENSE.

So how can this scientific information tell us anything about Truth, about Reality, about SENSE-ory Life???? And yet all sciences come out of this NON-SENSE and billions are running around saying it is all true.

Whatever you are looking at in the "night sky", it is best you commune/observe/contemplate directly with these celestial bodies, through SENSE, to access all the SENSE-ory information these life-forms have to share with you, first party to first party. Where else or how else can you receive truthful (sense-ory) information?

There is no point relying on 3rd party strangers to tell us/you what they are, what they do, what their purpose for Life is, etc, particularly anyone using mathematics or geometry, or any man-made con-struct derived of mathematics and geometry, because they will be lying to us/you.

Mathematics and Geometry do not exist, are fiction, fantasy and illusion. They have no SENSE. What is dead is without SENSE and therefore cannot tell us anything about the living. We now tell people to throw out ALL information to do with astronomy, astrology, numerology, sciences, occults, esoterics and all university courses, careers, religions and commerce in the garbage bin because all this information is made up out of thin air, it does not exist.

All information pertaining to or deriding from time, space, weights, levels, measurements, dimensions, values, commerce, etc, come out of mathematics and geometry. They have no SENSE therefore they do not exist.

Even east, west, north, south, up, down, left right, first, last, within, without, etc, do not exist.

Please study the debates, links provided, because they prove incontrovertibly what we are sharing here to be true.

Collectively, all we can do is scrutinise all information to eliminate all the lies, all the NON-SENSE, until whatever is left standing will get us closer to truth, to SENSE. This is why we test all information to find SENSE while disregarding all NON-SENSE. Only the information of SENSE can tell us truth and we can only access this information directly first party to first party from whatever sensory life-form we choose to observe.

This is the ONLY way we will SENSE truth and is the ONLY way we create our unique thoughts which makes us all truly unique not one the same as the next. If our experiences are derived from NON-SENSE then that is what we get!

There is so much more information to share about SENSE and NON-SENSE which you can access by contemplating the information we share in the many Facebook debates/discussion and articles, videos and podcasts we have posted here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 particularly the links provided in the earlier post above.

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Arthur Cristian

Also, our eyes, of SENSE do not lie; what you see moving across the sky is moving across the sky, is TRUTH. Have you seen Earth spin?

No one in a satellite or space station or rocket-ship, can see Earth spin either. While they are "up there" we can see them moving across the sky but we are not moving and they "up there" can't see us on the land moving either. Our eyes are not lying to us. This is also why all the photos they take from "up there" show clear delineation of all land adjoining oceans, seas, lakes, rivers, etc.

If Earth was spinning at the phenomenal speeds they claim it is doing, then all coast line photos taken from "up there" would be terribly blurred, but that ain't the case. It is the man-made Satanic/Freemasonic information of NON-SENSE that is used to superimpose over everything we SENSE (touch, taste, feel, smell, hear, see) that is lying to us.

The outcomes of our lives are the thoughts we think! - This is fact!

If they can get you to think and feel what they want you to think and get you to put your Life-Energy (your focus) into these thoughts you will create that world / "Their World"! Slaves/Drones wilingly create a world in their masters image without realising. This is FACT! - This is what is really going on.

Why do you think most of our parents and us and our children have been FORCED into the indoctrination of "The System" brainwashing agenda, placed on the conveyor belt running through factory-planet-earth to be pounded with NON-SENSE information repeatedly for anywhere between 12 and 28 years? And lets not forget all the media of "The System" information pounding us chronically every which way we turn as well, almost all of our waking and resting Life as well. What a Coincidence Anna!

Is there a coincidence between this fact and you saying "For your hypothesis to be true, the earth would have to stop spinning to produce night and day and the sun, and it's entire solar system would be orbiting us, because we are THAT important - that is pure archaic narcissism, the sort of thinking that religions were built on."

Remember that once people thought Earth was flat and anyone who dared to suggest otherwise was ridiculed. Now everyone believes Earth is spherical and anyone who suggest different is ridiculed! And anyone who suggests that things are not as we have been taught to believe is ridiculed.

We have come across so many blatant lies peddled as truths that we have realised we have to question EVERYTHING we have been taught to wean out truth from lies. History has been re-written and re-written and re-written and the people indoctrinated into whatever version of history fits the current agenda of "The System". Supposedly "secret" information is revealed by those of "The System" as they deem it necessary for the continued control of our thoughts. Our articles and many Facebook debates/discussions go into these themes in great detail. The truth is you and the rest of us have all been had, we have all been done over, braindirtied/brainwashed by NON-SENSE! This is fact!

The more we keep focusing on using our senses to feel nature around us, the closer we will get to the truth of what LIFE, including us, really is.

Sunday 26th June 2011 at 13:45

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Larry Hurdiss

Hi, Arthur...i love it !! what you been smoking ??....lol

10 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

Nobody can prove Earth is spinning or that it is going around the Sun - no one. It's all just theory/fantasy/illusion.

No expert can prove this Google photo http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8207 has been doctored either. They have had almost 4 years since we became aware of it to disprove it. In our networks, particularly the Love For Life mailing list with all its network offshoots reaching over half a million readers, some who are experts in these fields, some involved with Hollywood special effects, have not been able to come forward to prove this photo has been doctored. No One!

The idea earth has an edge or has a bowl http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6542 is not our belief, they come from others (3rd parties) but again no one can prove or disprove this idea either. This information could be spot on.

The idea we are at the very edge of the milky way is NON-SENSE as well - no one hardly knows where we are or what we are part of and how life/reality all really works and comes together.

The idea that Earth is a planet, part of a solar system of many planets all going around a sun is NON-0SENSE too - are just ideas/theories.

No one can prove planets exist, yet alone galaxies and universes.

No one can prove A, B, C or 1, 2, 3 or compass or square exist either.

The fact is they do not exist.

They can't exist because they have no SENSE.

So how can this scientific information tell us anything about Truth, about Reality, about SENSE-ory Life???? And yet all sciences come out of this NON-SENSE and billions are running around saying it is all true.

Whatever you are looking at in the "night sky", it is best you commune/observe/contemplate directly with these celestial bodies, through SENSE, to access all the SENSE-ory information these life-forms have to share with you, first party to first party. Where else or how else can you receive truthful (sense-ory) information?

There is no point relying on 3rd party strangers to tell us/you what they are, what they do, what their purpose for Life is, etc, particularly anyone using mathematics or geometry, or any man-made con-struct derived of mathematics and geometry, because they will be lying to us/you.

Mathematics and Geometry do not exist, are fiction, fantasy and illusion. They have no SENSE. What is dead is without SENSE and therefore cannot tell us anything about the living. We now tell people to throw out ALL information to do with astronomy, astrology, numerology, sciences, occults, esoterics and all university courses, careers, religions and commerce in the garbage bin because all this information is made up out of thin air, it does not exist.

All information pertaining to or deriding from time, space, weights, levels, measurements, dimensions, values, commerce, etc, come out of mathematics and geometry. They have no SENSE therefore they do not exist.

Even east, west, north, south, up, down, left right, first, last, within, without, etc, do not exist.

Please study the debates, links provided, because they prove incontrovertibly what we are sharing here to be true.

Collectively, all we can do is scrutinise all information to eliminate all the lies, all the NON-SENSE, until whatever is left standing will get us closer to truth, to SENSE. This is why we test all information to find SENSE while disregarding all NON-SENSE. Only the information of SENSE can tell us truth and we can only access this information directly first party to first party from whatever sensory life-form we choose to observe.

This is the ONLY way we will SENSE truth and is the ONLY way we create our unique thoughts which makes us all truly unique not one the same as the next. If our experiences are derived from NON-SENSE then that is what we get!

There is so much more information to share about SENSE and NON-SENSE which you can access by contemplating the information we share in the many Facebook debates/discussion and articles, videos and podcasts we have posted here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 particularly the links provided in the earlier post above.

10 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

‎@ Larry, it's more like what have you been smoking!

9 hours ago

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Anna Galdorcræft

No but I can see the stars, the moon and the sun going past, it's a giant hint that we are spinning. And as we keep seeing different sides to planets I'm guessing they are spinning too, and the fact that we actually do see different sides of the sun is because we are going around it. Now the moon, that's not spinning, but I'm pretty sure we aren't orbiting it. Perhaps it is the centre of the universe?

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Elvis Azard

Talk about constructs and imagination! Ok so there is no proof of the shape of the Earth or our place in the universe, only what others have told us. I grant you that. BUT (!) what is your source of information that we were once 33 feet tall and could run at incredible speeds, or that the Earth had a water sack/canopy, or any of the other claims made? If we are not to believe NASA then what makes your ideas any more real? Where is your proof of the paradise our ancestors once lived in?

To me it just sounds like more Sew-Age BS, delivered from Aliens who live with Jesus and Elvis, and speak to Indigo Children through Buddha incarnated as a Dolphin.

9 hours ago

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Daniel Kemp

You are using such a tool to communicate to us. Does this mean that the tool or mind construct should be ignored as NON SENSE.

The truth cannot be described much like an apple's taste cannot be described. I agree that we must experience all things in an of ourselves together to get to the truth. By relating our truth we expand our truth to eliminate doubts.

All tools such as math space time weights and measurements serve us well for now. And when and if we change we will drop them.

These tools help us identify with ourselves. We need them. You use them constantly yourself or you would not have these ideas to begin with!

Peace!

7 hours ago

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Ram Ayana

Epistemology IS important; fair enough. How do we know what we know? I appreciate where you're coming from but must point out that your interpretation of photographic blurring is incorrect. We live on a spinning sphere in a spiral path around a spiraling path. I have witnessed all this with my senses and run the interpretations through the sieve of mind, and the result is close to what contemporary science avers - despite the fact that the universe is actually infinite, there was no big bang OR creation event, the cosmos is fundamentally electrical, not nuclear, and the unholy babble, like all religious texts, is a whopping lie and mostly misdirection. The greatest teachers of the past were only that, and we have better ones today - each other. The Earth is neither flat nor still - but the centre point of each of us is.

7 hours ago

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Ann Sawyer

A lot of the things we "see" moving actually appear that way because our planet is actually the thing moving. Like the sun. We are moving around it.

6 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

‎@ Daniel.
In reference to your points of view please refer to the ongoing discussion we are having with Andrew here: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/08/08/03/same-sex-marriage-till-aids-d... (or scroll down this Facebook wall to find it) as we cover the ground of the information we'd use in response to your post, in great detail (more comments from us to be posted over the next few sunrises/sunsets). This saves us having to repeat everything again here.

Briefly, we are all severely compromised and this is the ONLY reason why we still use them. We have forgotten how to communicate without them and, while we are still slaves, we have to use the tools of enslavement to communicate with each other. Being content with these NON SENSE tools is to be content to be dumbed down, enslaved men and women.

Not disregarding having to survive in "The System", it is our need to be compliant to the dictates of "The System" with all its rules, regulations, rituals, procedures, conditions and contracts that keeps us using the tools of "The System" if we do not want to be met with the FORCE of "The System" and all the consequences of that.

This is the ONLY reason why we are all still using them.

It is NON-SENSE to think anything else. To think you are not a slave in "The System" is to be ignorant and in denial. Just don't pay your taxes, mortgages, rents, bills, fines, fees, penalties, tolls, licenses, registrations, certificates, deeds, passports, credit cards, bank charges, electricity, gas, petrol, telephones, internet, etc, and see what happens!

The only place where these man-made con-structs are needed and essential is in "The System" of commerce that is WONDERLAND, the MATRIX.

Almost all trapped in this illusion have to be deluded, fooled into thinking they are free and have freedom when they are not free at all because they are really SLAVES performing commercially as SLAVES, re-presenting all this "intellectual property" Non-Sense, slaving away their whole lives producing and giving up most of the fruits of their labour for the sole benefit of the owners of this "intellectual property", which they copyrighted.

The privileged Freemasonic/Satanic networks who administer and govern (rule over) "The System", on behalf of its owners, the Levite Priests, are the ones who benefit from these commercial spoils. Our articles posted since 1st September 2010 go into these subjects in great detail: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385

This chat with Brad includes bits and pieces of insights that we have been posting on Facebook that our articles go into in great detail. http://loveforlife.com.au/content/08/08/03/same-sex-marriage-till-aids-d...

As you say Daniel (with a few edits and inclusions from us): "All tools such as math, space, time, weights and measurements serve SLAVES well for now. And when and if SLAVES change we will drop them. These commercial tools help SLAVES identify with our commercial SLAVE status. SLAVES need them. You, a SLAVE, use them constantly as SLAVES or you would not have these ideas to begin with!"

Yes, in making things very clear Daniel, we actually agree with you! We were all braindirtied/brainwashed into claiming our commercial slave status and yes, we can all walk away from slavery if we are prepared to help each other do this here and now. We don't need any of this non-sense to live healthy, happy, free and abundant lives co-creating life with Nature peacefully without the need to do harm to any sensory life-form, inanimate or not.

As you say "And when and if we change we will drop them." - This is what we are here for, to show a way out of this slave-status non-sense, here and now. See this quickly put together 25 minute video: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7866

Again, our current discussion/debate with Andrew http://loveforlife.com.au/content/08/08/03/same-sex-marriage-till-aids-d... and the one we had with Min in the Gravity debate/discussion http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8177 go into all the non-sense side of things in great detail.

Most of us slaves don't think there is another way of living without all these fictions (see: Once Upon A Time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RasKY5xv6U) but we are here to say there is another way to live without being slaves, a way that has us all moving away from the fantasy, illusion and delusion currently plaguing billions of us every which way we turn. What we are doing is showing the way out of this HARM, having all of us who take Full-Responsibility for Life returning to co-creating SENSE-ory Paradise using ONLY our SENSE.

We are determined to inspire a mass exodus from "The System" of harm, non-sense, unconsciousness and lies back to nature, sense, truth, do-no-harm/consciousness.

3 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

‎@ Ann & Ram,

Your "claims" Ann and Ram are Non-Sense.

Prove what you are saying is true.

Many scientists, experts, etc, in debate with us have tried and have all failed miserably.

What about you?

Let's put your beliefs ("claims") to the test using scrutiny to see if they stack up.

This is not an attack on the living-sentient-sensory MAN (men, women, children whose flesh lives and blood flows) that you really are as we respect, protect and honour the sensory life of living-creator embodied in your physical forms, you are our living brothers/sisters/co-creators of Life. We intend no harm to you, however, scrutinising information that are not your unique thoughts is another matter.

Please bring forward proof of all your claims to back all your claims.

Our reply to Anna and Elvis to be posted straight after this comment fills in all the rest of the detail and we ask both of you to read and contemplate the information shared in all the recent Facebook debates/discussions, links posted in other comments in this thread above, as well as the articles, AND also please dig deep into this discussion about Gravity as well, will post the link below.

You will need to take us directly to the source where you got the 1st party to 1st party information from, i.e. "We live on a spinning sphere in a spiral path around a spiraling path. I have witnessed all this with my senses and run the interpretations through the sieve of mind, and the result is close to what contemporary science avers" AND "A lot of the things we "see" moving actually appear that way because our planet is actually the thing moving. Like the sun. We are moving around it."

Gravity
The Re-Presentation Of Another MAN's Thought
Or Reality?

A Facebook Discussion
With Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
During May 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8177

3 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

‎@ Anna & Elvis

We tell everyone not to believe anything we say - to use their brains uniquely (not become re-peaters in our image) and go where the SENSE-ory-logic of truth takes them. Nature has so much sensory information to share with each of us uniquely, not one the same as the next, as have those 30 to 60 years strict raw-living-food eaters demonstrating how their bodies coped in conditions cooked/processed food eaters could not cope with or perform in. The skeletons of many bodies 14' and well beyond have been uncovered thousands of times over the last 400 years.

Just as the coordinated (co-order-innate d) efforts performed to cover up truths behind 9/11, 7/7, Bali-Bombings, Fluoride, Vaccinations, "Man On The Moon" etc, etc, "hundreds of thousands of lies", they have also been doing this with the many NON-SENSE distractions they invented like the "Annunaki", Shape-Shifting-Reptilians, etc, to have us not remember our true SENSORY heritage.

If you put the effort in and do your research, you will find many examples where intensely pressured/concentrated "oxygen" tests/experiments performed inside enclosed environments produced sensory life-forms such as tomatoes growing in sizes far beyond the "norms" of a tomato today - just one vine producing over 1,300 tomatoes, a vine that refused to stop growing and stop producing more fruits many months after the experiment began.

Do you think "dinosaurs" were the only ones who had the privilege of being "BIG"? Have you ever contemplated on the fact that most sensory Life-Forms of Nature were much bigger as the oxygen content of the air was far greater before the water canopy was burst? Most indigenous tribes across Earth, through word-of-mouth, passed down the true information of the "falling down" of water. i.e. the "40 days and nights" of torrential rain over Earth. Why is it that many hundreds of "old civilisations" are being discovered under water? To us this is ONLY the tip of the iceberg of what is buried under all oceans and seas.

For more on the water canopy, the effects of more oxygen in the air and more, see this video "The Killing of Paradise Planet" http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3082 by archaeologist Jonathan Gray here: he does peddle non-sense as well but there is a lot of factual sensory information to dive into as well.

The most important challenge for all of us is to have the courage to examine everything we have been taught and to see if we can find evidence of it through our SENSES.

Anna: You say, "I can see the stars, the moon and the sun going past, it's a giant hint that we are spinning." Or is it a giant hint that they are moving across or revolving around us/Earth? Trust your eyes; you can "see the stars, the moon and the sun going past". If we can see you going past us, are we moving or are you? As for planets, can we see them spinning? How do we know Earth is a "planet" and "spinning", therefore accepting and believing "The System" dictates that Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, etc, are planets spinning and therefore Earth, a planet, is spinning and moving around the Sun too? Do we see different sides of the sun because we are going round it or because it is going across or round us/Earth.

How do you know what they are Anna?

Have these Life-Forms told you what they are or are they thoughts coming from 3rd Parties who rammed their images of what these Life-Forms are?

With your own eyes, have you seen the solar system exactly the way it is depicted in drawings???

Let's think about whose thoughts we are thinking here. Are the thoughts you think about the sun, moon, starts, planets, Earth, etc, your unique thoughts that have arisen from direct contemplation and communication with the sun, moon, stars, planets and Earth? Or are they the thoughts of other man and women that you have been trained to remember and "Re-Present"?

Where are your unique thoughts Anna? What happened to them? Did you create any? Why is it that your thoughts, based on the discussions we have had with you thus far, are just other peoples thoughts", "A SAMENESS", and not yours? What does that say? And why are you defending other peoples thoughts about "planets", "Earth turning", "solar system", etc, when you can't incontrovertibly prove these images to be true?

Are you an individual (in-divide-u-all) created out of the same mould which billions of others were created out of or are you really unique? To be unique you must have/create unique thoughts and to create unique thoughts means you have contemplated on sensory Life to inspire your unique thoughts into making.

This scrutinising of all information and going where the sensory logic of truth uniquely takes us all is critical and is key to unlocking and deprogramming the the hypnotic "spells" cast over billions of us here and now. "Whose Thoughts Are You Thinking" Anna, when you post them in such discussions here on Facebook? Again, the many Facebook debates/discussions and articles we have posted, links provided above or can be found here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385

Before you doubt that we have the capacity to contemplate on and communicate with other SENSE-ory LIFE forms of LIFE and/or think that we are the best we can be, remember that we only use anywhere between 1% and for the lucky few up to 10% of our brains; what do you think the rest is for? And the fact that we have all this currently unused brain suggests that we once used all of it or why would we have it?

Elvis: We agree with you about Sew-Age information, as you call it. It is just a distraction to keep us from the truth about who we really are, what we are really part of and our true purpose and to keep us looking for something or someone else to take responsibility for the mess we have caused. Maybe some of the information we share is not true (yet to be proven that it is not) but the important thing is to wake up to the fact that we have been lied to big time in every way imaginable and that we need to keep sifting, sifting, sifting the truth from the lies of NON-SENSE until all we are left with is truth (SENSE). This is what we are doing, what we stand for and are about.

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Arthur Cristian

‎@ Anna, Daniel, Ram & Ann

All the NON-SENSE that is going on is to make us think and feel that there are bigger, more powerful forces out there than us and that we are at the effect of those forces, including that we have no effect on the "universe" with its vast galaxies, distances and unknowns. This illusion is the out that allows us to pass on the responsibility for the mess we are making, here & now, to these greater, mysterious forces and carry on doing harm, harm and more harm, blindfolding and ear-muffing our real lives to the fact that we are all heading for total destruction!

Thus, we don't worry about what we are doing on Earth because we are going to Jesus when we "die" or we are going to be beamed up by the Galactic Federation and all will be perfect and wonderful. Or we just die and that's it, swept up by the big-bang roller coaster that turns our dead-corpses into whatever non-sense the "experts" dredge up.

Just one example of many, the Christian brainwashing As Above - So Below, Heaven and Hell illusion with Heaven having hierarchies from Archangels down to cherubs, massages our brains to accept the hierarchies of "The System" to rule over us as slaves here & now, even though we all know that all men, women and children are equal and that no MAN is master of another MAN. The believers in Christ Consciousness, The Galactic Federation, Ramtha Channeling, etc, all New Age info, contains the same psychological As Above - So Below slave status terrorist attacks. Duality in all its forms is a scam and all information requiring us to re-present is the practise of duality at play. Please read this article:

Re-Presenting Is The Pull Of Duality
Into False Consciousness
Unravelling Lies And Liars

And The Remedy To The Lies
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
19th April 2011
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8129

History has also been severely re-written to tell us that we have gone from being dumb, stupid Neanderthals struggling the "dark ages" to being really clever intellectuals (so clever we are destroying everything) and that we have gone from lives of slavery, war & chaos to living peacefully in "democracies" where we have the freedom to do what we want - so long as it agrees with those behind "The System", of course!

All this brainwashing makes us happy, contented slaves who don't resist. These As Above - So Below psychological terrorist attacks on all of us is why we remain passive and compliant to "The System" and when we experience and endure chaos we are the sheeple moving from an old enclosure into another and yes, we close all the gates behind us and al around us so that we remain as slaves.

There is no other reason why all this non-sense information exists. They use Non-Sense to rule us with Non-Sense - it is very important for them that all around us, the slaves, no matter which we turn, there is only non-sense information, services and systems so we do not realise that there is anything else.

It is the non-sense that disconnects us from sense, Earth being a planet, spinning around amongst many spinning planets, all going around a sun of many suns, all going around each other as part of a galaxy of many galaxies, all going around each other as part of a universe of many universes, all going around each other as part of....... is the non-sense that has you accept your slave status here and now, to be ruled by FORCE.

The smart ones have provided all slaves with an escape out of the illusion but it really ain't an escape at all, but another deception, because their children and great grand children will remain as slaves under the FORCE of their slave-masters children and great grand-children, all in the same image of their ancestors way of life, a history which tells them why they must remain who they are in "The System", regardless how many times "The System" keeps changing and adapting its facade.

Please read the articles here because we explain all this in great detail. http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385

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Jonathan Finlayson

I think that this link explains a lot.

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Jonathan Finlayson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2G0Llp5-8U&feature=related

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Arthur Cristian

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Ann Sawyer

You are absolutely right, Arthur, I cannot personally prove what I am saying. There are lots of things I cannot prove without doubt - that what my eyes see is what other people see, that most people are basically good at heart, that there are great miraculous beauties in the world (I don't mean people!), that there is more to people and many animals than be seen or felt (soul, personality, whatever one wants to call it). But it does seem to me that the alignment of the planets, especially the rotation of the earth around the sun, was studied and believed by scientists of long ago who, I don't think, would have had as the agenda to let people ruin the earth by tricking them into believing these things about the solar system. Not that I don't believe the government can lie to us. I don't know, I'm not sure that any ideas about the universe can be proven by non-scientists like me. It is good to question things instead of taking in predigested information like a baby bird takes in food, but it seems we can spend our whole lives speculating on these things and never really prove anything beyond a shadow of a doubt. Seems like we have to accept some things so we can do the things we need to do, learn new information, etc.

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The Cristian Family November 2006

We Stand For NO SYSTEM

Kindom (Do No Harm Communities) is the dream for freedom, but it is the dream for the freedom of those around us who also live the dream of freedom, because it is in living for the freedom of others that we get our freedom. When we live for the dreams of Kindom of those around us, we live life as a gift because we live for (dedicate our lives to) their dream of freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, etc, just as they live for our Kindom dreams too. This is true co-creation (cooperation) with no attack on the uniqueness of each of us. When we live this way, we have no need for any man-made system - everything/everyone has already been taken care of by our love for life.

Just as we do not have to jump 10 feet across the room to grab our next breath, neither do we have to worry about food, water and shelter because it has all been taken care of as we each co-create Kindoms/Kin-Domains for everyone. Now everybody and everything of the dream of life that is Kindom/Paradise is free (has been set free once again). The issue is greed and selfishness, power and control trips, arrogance, ignorance, being fed many many lies and being traumatised. The issue is not overpopulation - there is more than enough land available for every family to have a hectare (2.5 acres Kin-Domain) to care for. The land of Australia can provide a Kin-Domain for every family across Earth, each with a food forest, clean fresh drinking water and plenty of space for building natural do no harm habitats and with plenty of land left over.

Everyone must have the freedom to take full-responsibility for their lives, for the water they drink, the food they eat and for their shelter. Currently, "The System" forces everyone to give up taking full-responsibility so that we become grown up children accustomed to sucking on the nipples of "The System" corporations for everything, having to use money to get by and to follow the rules of money because we are not co-creating freedom, peace, truth, joy and abundance for each other. Money only leads to haves and have nots and all the abuse, manipulation and distractions that we are subjected to as slaves to money.

When we give up living for other's Kindom dreams, we start creating hell ("The System") all around us because we become self-centred - now it's all about "my freedom","my money", "my land", "my belief", "my saviour", "mine", "mine","mine", "i","i", "i", "own", "own", "own", etc. To protect what we claim we own requires a man-made system with FORCE to protect those self-centred claims. This is ALL trauma based and all story-telling (brainwashing/braindirtying).

NO SYSTEM = KINDOM/DO NO HARM COMMUNITIES
NO SYSTEM = KINDOM/DO NO HARM COMMUNITIES photo Kindom_zpsa6d24e8a.jpg

Our true freedom comes when we set our thoughts of freedom into motion so that we live freedom rather than just talking and thinking about it while we still slave for "The System". Kindom will not happen while we meditate for hours in the bush or do yoga retreats or wait for Jesus or follow the processes of the OPPT (One People's Public Trust now called One People). This is not freedom because we are not living freedom because we are living the story-telling of Jesus or Zeitgeist or The Secret or Thrive or One Earth/Consciousness/People.

Living Kindom is very, very hard work as we set about repairing the damage to MAN/Earth/Nature that we are ALL responsible for but the burden becomes lighter the more of us put our life-energy into the dream of returning Earth to Paradise. Day-after-day, we all have to work our arses off until Kindom is all around us (MAN) once again. This is the price we pay to set each other free on a piece of land (Kin-Domain), so that no one is under the image-power (education/brainwashing/story-telling) of another MAN anymore and so that everyone can have their space of love to create and live their unique, do no harm dreams. This only happens once we have the Kindoms set up so that everyone is provided for.

Once we re-create the food forests, whether on land or in the suburbs, we can re-claim our freedom, breaking the strangle-hold of "The System" because we are no longer reliant on its services and benefits and no longer turning each other into slaves of "The System", cogs in the wheels of "The System" machine. If we don't put the effort in to set everyone and everything free all around us then we still live in HELL ("The System"). The key is to live for everyone else's freedom so that we can have it too.

From Bare Dirt To Abundance
A Year In The Life Of The
Love For Life Food Forest

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
8th February 2013
51 Minutes 46 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A

From Bare Dirt To Abundance Part Two A
5th November 2014
http://youtu.be/TPTPn8tgcPI
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8545

From Bare Dirt To Abundance Part Two B
Coming Shortly

We live for NO SYSTEM. We do not lose anything by not having a man-made system and, in fact, we gain. We gain our freedom and we gain abundance. Let go of the fear.

The Cristian Family November 2006

A Collection Of Various Love For Life Posts
Providing The Big Picture We See

Sequential Order

We ask you to NOT believe anything we say/share and instead use scrutiny like an intense blow torch and go where the logic of truth/sense takes you. This is very, very important. Put everything you believe up to the test of scrutiny to see how it stacks up. If you are true to your heart/senses and go where the logic of truth/sense takes you will find that NO belief, etc, will stand up to the test of scrutiny. They just do not stack up because they are lies/fraud.

After you have watched and read all the material and any questions are left unanswered, send us your landline number and we will use the internet phone as a free unlimited call. We are on Sydney NSW Australia time. Best times for us to chat are between 11.00am and 6.00pm.

It is critical that you fully comprehend Image Power, "Spelling", Trauma, Reaction To Trauma, Curses, Processing Curses, Full-Responsibility/Liability, Limited Liability/Responsibility (passing-the-back), Slavery, Senses/Sense vs Non-Sense/Senses, Re-Presenting Intellectual Property such as but not limited to "Name", Storytelling/Storytellers, Duality, Black-Magic, Belief, Lies, "i", All Seeing "i" (eye), etc..... These themes and others are covered over and over and over again.

If you do not comprehend these insights and are unable to use your senses to sense your way through all the non-sense/non-sensory-images that enslave MAN under their image power (darkness = "The System" = Hell), men and women will remain deeply trapped under a terrible state of trauma. Our intention is to inspire you to remedy by showing you how to move away from reacting to trauma in all its nefarious and devious forms.

IMAGE POWER
Superb Diamond Range Interviewing
Arthur & Fiona Cristian 4th February 2014
http://youtu.be/qFnuuw3kLog
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8501

His-Story/Her-Story (History)
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
2005-2007 - Re-posted July 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8529

The Dream Of Life Part 6
Under The Spell Of Intellectual Property

Arthur Cristian - 51 Minutes 52 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMK7CkU1ih8

Trauma Induced Fantasy
July 2013 Interview With
Jeanice Barcelo And Arthur & Fiona Cristian
http://youtu.be/CZVj-ddUoZw
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8500

The Dark Side Of The Moon
The Background To "The System"

Arthur & Fiona Cristian Interviewed By
Jahnick Leaunier, The Tru-Mon Show
24th August 2016
Love For Life - 142 Minutes
https://youtu.be/C5TViw1NLr4

Eric Dubay's Flat Earth Is A Cult
The Background To The System Part Two

Arthur & Fiona Cristian Chatting With
Jahnick Leaunier On The Tru-Mon Show
Love For Life - 31st August 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8585
154 Minutes
https://youtu.be/rCPWgEQg-2M

Eclipse Of The Sun - Video (Arthur swears in this video)
The Background To The System Part Three
Arthur & Fiona Cristian Chatting With
Jahnick Leaunier On The Tru-Mon Show
Love For Life - 25th October 2016
https://youtu.be/FMOsOi1kNRc

The "Name" Is The Mark Of The Beast
The Strawman Identifying
Your Slave Status In "The System"

By Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
5th February 2012 - 56 Minutes 25 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdOag66v7uo

The Satanic Craft Of Inculcation In Practice
Fiona's ACT Supreme Court Affidavit Explaining Inculcation & Illumination
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
4th March 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8578

The Spinning Top
Full Bloom Inculcation

Arthur And Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
Facebook Discussions Between The
8th December 2016
And
26th January 2017
Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/16/03/04/satanic-craft-inculcation-pra...

The Shit Of Death
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
28th January 2017
Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/16/03/04/satanic-craft-inculcation-pra...

The Selfie Of Freakenstein
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
17th March 2017
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8588

Three Sets Of Fiona Cristian Documents Filed With ACAT
Merged Into One Document For Downloading
https://www.scribd.com/document/327370355/Fiona-Cristian-Affidavit-ACT-S...

Fiona Cristian Affidavit
ACT Supreme Court / Court Of Appeal

https://www.scribd.com/doc/316218306/Three-Sets-of-Fiona-Cristian-Docume...

Dancing With Magic (Lies)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Videos, Articles, Comments
And Pending E-Book
Love Fort Life
September 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8575

Dancing With Magic Part One
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
5th September 2015
https://youtu.be/hx7qJ7r2OS4

Dancing With Magic Part Two
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
12th September 2015
https://youtu.be/b_KuEFdKmnA

Dancing With Magic Part Three
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
13th September 2015
https://youtu.be/9pJc1NfnAcI

Dancing With Magic (Lies) Part Four:
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
16th September 2015
https://youtu.be/kSVURGwm1Go

Introduction To Kindom Video
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
6th March 2015
https://youtu.be/7SspPm9wRgo

To Be Educated Is To Have No Soul
The System Is Soul Destroying

Frederick Malouf & Michael Tellinger's
Contrived Gifting
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
1st September 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8586

Illumination IS Definition
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
26th to 29th January 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8577

IMAGE POWER
The Nefarious Tactics Used
To Disguise Truth And Distract Us
From Remedy

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
24th January 2014
This post contains many recent Facebook comments
and email replies which collectively provides a big picture
into exposing the deception behind IMAGE POWER.
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8496

The Pull Of E-Motion
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
8th February 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8499

Processing Curses
A Lie Is A Curse
Liars Process Curses

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
26th February 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8503

How The System Is Really Constructed
Bouncing Back Curses Upon Curse Makers
To Stop Harm Forevermore

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
27th February 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8504

Slave To A Name
Parts One, Two, Three, Four,
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd to 6th March 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8505

Educated Slaves
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
20th March 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8506

The Only Path To Freedom
Beware The False Steps

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 2nd April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8508

Free-Dumb For All
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 5th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8510

Revoking The Ego
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 8th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8511

How MAN Commits Spiritual Suicide
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life - 3rd April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8509

How To Detect Intel Operatives Working
For The New World Order Agenda
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 10th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8512

How The Psyop Program & Intel Networks
Are Messing With Your Head +
His-Story/Her-Story

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8513

Godzilla Through The Looking Glass
Destroyed By Name"

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 20th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514

What It's Going To Take
To Co-Create Freedom Forevermore

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 22nd April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514

Falling For Fairy Stories
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 24th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514

A Disassociation From The Work
Of Kate of Gaia

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 17th May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8517

Separating The Wheat From The Chaff
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 22nd May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8516

Revolution Or Revolution
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 25th May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8520

Routing Out Psyop Programs
Routs Out Intel Operatives
Exposing Max Igan's Psyop Program

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 31st May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8524

The Psyop Program Scam
Behind Religion Belief Faith
& Associated Opinion

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
11th June 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8525

Another Delusion
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
11th June 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8526

A World Of Words Is A World Of Lies
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
13th June 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8527

E-MAN
The Name Of The Beast Is MAN

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 9th May 2014
Includes Mountain MAN Arrested
Facebook Discussion About "Name"
Uploaded 25th June 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8528

E-Motion
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 13th August 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8537

Discussion With Brother Gregory
Clearly Demonstrating Christianity
Is Part Of The Problem
And Not The Solution

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
Between the 12th May 2014 and 30th August 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8542

The Psyop Program Behind Free Food
And Permaculture

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
29th October 2014
Facebook Discussion With Unconditional Love Moon
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8544

Head So Strong
Music and Vocals Arthur Cristian
Backing Vocals and Vocal Effects Arthur Cristian & Hannah Wood
Lyrics Fiona and Arthur Cristian
Written during our spare time between Aug & Oct 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG4UQCTsqwU

The Time Of Trauma That Destroys Us
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
9th November 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8547

The Most Powerful Video On Spirituality
And Happiness FOR SLAVES
Or
How To Accept Slavery And Be Happy About It

Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
6th August 2014
Facebook Discussion About The Work Of Eckhart Tolle
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8548

What Can We Do What Can We See
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
A series of Arthur Cristian Facebook
posts and discussions
between 17th and 21st November 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8552

The Misuse Of Love By Intel Networks
To Create Doubt And Uncertainty
With The Intention To Destroy Love
And Therefore Destroy MAN
(True Freedom, Peace, Joy, Abundance And Truth
For Everyone)

By Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
26th November 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8554

The Void Of E-GO That Is Spiritual Suicide
The Justification Of Laziness
That Perpetuates System Creature Comforts
Ensuring Our Fall

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
13th December 2014
Massive Update Occurred 14th Dec 2014 3.10pm Sydney Aust time
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8556

Darkness Visible Part One A, B, C, D
The Freemasonic World In Plain Sight
Decoding George Washington Lithographs

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
14th December 2014
Part One A http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8557
Part One B http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8567
Part One C http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8568
Part One D http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8569

Darkness Visible Part Two
Yin And Yang, Duality, Spiritual Suicide
And Frank O'Collins UCADIA / One Heaven

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
14th December 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8558

Darkness Visible Part Three
How The Word Sausage
Re-Presents The New World Order
Boiling Point & Out To Get Us

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
27th December 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8560

Darkness Visible Part Four
Aleister Crowley - Thelema - OTO
And The Black Magic Psychedelia Of The Intellect

Facebook Discussion
4th to 10th January 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8561

Darkness Visible Part Five
Living MAN Fiona Cristian's Standing
+ Decoding Judeo/Judaism

Fiona Cristian & Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
24th January 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8562

Darkness Visible Part Six
The Many Fingers Of The Hidden Hand Appearing
YouTube Community Flagged A Video
Posted To The ArthurLoveForLife YouTube Channel
As Being "Hate Speech"

Fiona Cristian & Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
4th February 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8563

Darkness Visible Part Seven
The Full Responsibility For Setting
True Freedom For All Into Motion
In Present-Sense Forevermore

Fiona Cristian & Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
10th February 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8564

Who We Really Are Does Not End
At The Surface Of Our Skin

Arthur Cristian & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 22nd February 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8565

Introduction To Kindom Video
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
6th March 2015
https://youtu.be/7SspPm9wRgo

The Rot Parts One, Two, Three
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
5th June 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8571

"The Good Guys" And The "Bad Guys"
Working Together To Bring In
The New World Order

Arthur Cristian - 18th July 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8572

Can You Spot The Ego?
Where's Wally? Part One

Compilation of Facebook & Youtube
Insight Posts During Aug/Sept 2015
By Arthur Cristian
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8573

Can You Spot The Ego?
Where's Wally? Part Two

Compilation of Facebook & Youtube
Insight Posts During Aug/Sept 2015
By Arthur Cristian
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8576

Dancing With Magic (Lies)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Videos, Articles, Comments
And Pending E-Book
Love Fort Life
September 2015
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8575

Dancing With Magic Part One
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
5th September 2015
https://youtu.be/hx7qJ7r2OS4

Dancing With Magic Part Two
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
12th September 2015
https://youtu.be/b_KuEFdKmnA

Dancing With Magic Part Three
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
13th September 2015
https://youtu.be/9pJc1NfnAcI

Dancing With Magic (Lies) Part Four:
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
16th September 2015
https://youtu.be/kSVURGwm1Go

Illumination IS Definition
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
26th to 29th January 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8577

The Satanic Craft Of Inculcation In Practice
Fiona's ACT Supreme Court Affidavit Explaining Inculcation & Illumination
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
4th March 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8578

The Dark Side Of The Moon
The Background To "The System" Part One

Arthur & Fiona Cristian Chatting With
Jahnick Leaunier On The Tru-Mon Show
Love For Life - 24th August 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8583

Eric Dubay's Flat Earth Is A Cult
The Background To The System Part Two

Arthur & Fiona Cristian Chatting With
Jahnick Leaunier On The Tru-Mon Show
Love For Life - 31st August 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8585

To Be Educated Is To Have No Soul
The System Is Soul Destroying
Frederick Malouf & Michael Tellinger's
Contrived Gifting

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
1st September 2016
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8586

New Love For Life Kindom Facebook Group
Started March 2015
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1434747556816918
Includes 63 Minute
Introduction To Kindom Video
https://youtu.be/7SspPm9wRgo
By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
and
Facebook Kindom Group Guidelines
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8566
The Love For Life website home-page provides
the bigger-picture background to the themes
touched on in this video: http://loveforlife.com.au

Crop Circles Are A Massive Hoax
Facebook Discussion On Simon Kawai's Wall
Involving Arthur & Fiona Cristian
31st August 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8470

OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
27th February 2013 onwards...
Part One: http://youtu.be/Qjp_9nlrBao
Part Two: http://youtu.be/tbybeOWZ-Bc
Part Three: http://youtu.be/yOWoxH-HbVw

Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 8th February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8350
Part One: http://youtu.be/4ze66_33wxM - 70 Minutes 5 Seconds
Part Two: http://youtu.be/43gIi-sjxJc - 81 Minutes 13 Seconds
Part Three: http://youtu.be/oooY6W63K-M - 70 Minutes 18 Seconds

What Do You Believe On Origins?
Who Said There Was A Beginning?
Who's Truth Do You Accept?
Belief Is A Strange Idea.

Discussion Lyndell, Scott and Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Between March and April 2013
Posted 29th October 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8487

So You Want The Good Bits Of "The System"
But Not The Bad Bits?

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 12th August 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8468

Turning Away From The Reflection
Of MANS Looking Glass

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
30th April 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8404

REMEDY

From Bare Dirt To Abundance
A Year In The Life Of The
Love For Life Food Forest

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
8th February 2013
51 Minutes 46 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A

From Bare Dirt To Abundance Part Two
5th November 2014
http://youtu.be/TPTPn8tgcPI
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8545

From Bare Dirt To Abundance Part Three
7th March 2016
60 Minutes
https://youtu.be/SH9i8ZStzWI

Love For Life Food Forest & Native Garden March 2016
Extension Of The Love For Life Food Forest And Establishment
Of A New Native Garden At The Front Of The Rental Property
In East Bowral - 24th October 2015 to Mid February 2016.
15 Minutes
https://youtu.be/y-Uz8HmnSIM

Control The Land
And You Control MAN On The Land
Displace MAN From Land
And You Turn MAN Into Slaves

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
April 2011 (Updated 14th September 2011)
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8237

The Divine Spark
Facebook Discussion With Raymond Karczewski
Arthur & Fiona Cristian & Others
2nd October 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8483

Capturing Another MANS Uniqueness
A Facebook Debate With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
And Raymond Karczewski
Starting 13th May 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8414

The Spell Is Broken
Taking The Land To Create Kindom

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8365

The Steps Of Kindom
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life 2006/2007
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

To explore these themes in greater detail go here where you can find links to all our Love For Life comments, articles, debates, discussions, videos, podcasts, etc: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385

All the best
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

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Peaceful Transition Through Sacrifice And Service

We feel there is an essential peaceful do no harm transition required to get all of MAN back to standing on MANS feet without reliance upon another MAN for water, food, shelter. As it stands everyone in "The System" are highly dependent and reliant on the "group mind-set" that forms "The System" of slaves providing services and benefits for the emotionally addicted slaves to "The System" (and you can put us in the same basket too). The transition is to get MAN back to relying ONLY on nature without 3rd party interlopers, intermeddlers, interceders getting in the way. The transition is a team effort with the foresight for setting all of MAN free down-the-line so that MAN is no longer dependent on slaves and masters providing services, benefits, privileges and exclusivity while being bound to contracts, rituals, procedures, conditions, rules & regulations which compromises MAN severely.

This transition is all about shifting from limited liability/responsibility to full liability/responsibility. This full responsibility is all about caring for our health, nature all around us, clean uncorrupted (pure) water and food, partner/co-creator, children, shelter, animal-friends in partnership, etc. In "The System", we are already together destroying each other - we have to come together to create peace together so that we can all have peace. We cannot live peacefully when we are islands, not taking full responsibility for the lives of those around us until EVERYONE can take full responsibility for their life, which means that EVERYONE is healed of system trauma. In "The System", we all come together to make slaves of each other - now is the moment to come together to set each other free, to live for each other's freedom, peace, joy and abundance. Once we have set each other free, we are free.

Control The Land
And You Control MAN On The Land
Displace MAN From Land
And You Turn MAN Into Slaves

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
April 2011 (Updated 14th September 2011)
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8237

The Spell Is Broken
Taking The Land To Create Kindom

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8365

"The Steps Of Kindom"
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

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Once we fix these issues, we or our children or our descendants to come, can start focusing on the even bigger picture of getting back to where our ancestors were, as breatharyan's, before they fell into non-sense images to be enslaved by them.

All the best to you and your family
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

The Cristian Family November 2006

The Cristian Family Declaration

The Cristian family and The Love for Life Campaign are apolitical, non-religious, non-violent, anti weapons, anti drugs (both pharmaceutical and recreational) and anti any ideology that denies the existence of Do No Harm Communities (Kindoms) and suppresses the uniqueness and freedom of all men, women and children.

The Cristian family and our Love For Life work is unaligned to any big business corporation, intelligence agency, government body, "system" law, "system" think tanks, "system" green or environmental movements, religion, cult, sect, society (fraternity, brotherhood, sisterhood, order, club, etc,) secret or not, hidden agenda, law or sovereignty group, occult, esoteric, New Age or Old Age.

The Cristian family supports and promotes the remedy that brings an everlasting peace, freedom, truth, joy, abundance and do no harm for all of life without causing loss of uniqueness or the need for having slaves and rulers. We are not into following the one in front or being shepherds for sheeple. Most importantly, we take full-responsibility for everything we think, feel and do.

The Cristian family are not Christians.

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

December 2006

The Cristian Family November 2006

THE CRISTIAN FAMILY PLEDGE

Being of clear brain, heart and intention, we each declare the following to be true:

• We have no intention of ending our own lives.

• We will not tolerate suppression of truth, ideas, freedom, or our work. We stand for freedom of speech.

• We stand together to support others in the expression of truths and freedom to speak out no matter how radical those ideas may seem.

• Standing for freedom takes courage; together we shall be strong in the face of all odds.

• If it is ever claimed that we have committed suicide, encountered an unfortunate accident, died of sickness/disease, disappeared, been institutionalized, or sold out financially or in any other way to self-interested factions, we declare those claims false and fabricated.

• We testify, assert and affirm without reservation, on behalf of all those who have dedicated their lives to the ending of secrecy and the promotion of freedom of thought, ideas and expression that we shall prevail.

• We Do Not Have Multiple Personality Disorders

Arthur Cristian
Fiona Cristian
Jasmin Lily Cristian
Emma Rose Cristian
Frances Hannah Cristian
Xanthe Jane Cristian

15th December 2006 (Edited/Updated 18th September 2011)

The Cristian Family November 2006

Update Regarding The Love For Life
Home Page And Quick User Guide

We are turning the Love for Life Quick User Guide http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608 into a blog of all the main insights of our work since March 2005, whether through articles, videos, podcasts or discussions/debates.

As we do not have the time to compile everything we have written into a book, as many have suggested we do, compiling all our most important work into one area of the website is a way of providing easy access to this work so those interested are able to fully comprehend the big picture.

Instead of having to find our different articles, videos, etc, in various parts of the website, it will all be accessible here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385.

Love For Life Videos

As amateurs and posted in the Quick User Guide below the Facebook links, we're currently creating and posting a series of videos called "The Dream Of Life" which covers the ground of all the Love For Life insights. We plan to have the videos completed by December 31st 2012. Once this is behind us, our intention is to create a 2 hour or so video covering the body of this work. All videos are embedded in the quick user guide http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608 and uploaded in Arthur's YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/ArthurLoveForLife.

Love For Life Music

We have started recording songs, with others, that express the themes of Love For Life. They are now being posted on Arthur's YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/ArthurLoveForLife and are embedded in the quick user guide http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608. We have over 100 songs to record. A few rough demos have already been used as the soundtrack on the first "Dream of Life" video.

About Us - Love For Life & The Cristian Family

Also, everything we, the Cristian family, have gone through, from bank fraud and the theft of the family home to death threats and attempts on Arthur's life, is documented in the Quick User Guide too. If you, the reader, are prepared to put the effort in, you will comprehend the extent to which we have all been tricked into becoming slaves, giving up our uniqueness and our full-responsibility for life and destroying everything of life to the point where life is in danger of dying out completely. You will also comprehend the remedy to all this chaos; a remedy that requires only love for life and the determination to do what needs to be done. Though our focus is very strongly on the remedy that creates a world of freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance and Do No Harm for all of life without loss of uniqueness or the need for slaves and rulers, we realise that it is vital to comprehend how to get there and what stops us from getting there. This is why there is so much information on the hows and whys of everything going wrong in the world today. We are not into peddling conspiracy theories, we are into routing out all forms of organised crime.

Saturday 26th November 2011

Arthur and Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

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1. For The Body Of The Love For Life Work by Arthur and Fiona Cristian

Which Unravels The Reasons For The Chaos, Mayhem and Confusion Being Experienced In The World Today, Explains The Need For "Community Immunity" and Responsibility, and Focuses On The Creation Of Kindoms - Do No Harm, Life-Sustainable Communities (As The Remedy That Heals All Mans Woes) - And How We Can Co-Create Them. For Comments, Articles And Discussions, Go Here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 - Also Go Here To See Podcasts And Videos Posted by Arthur & Fiona Cristian: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7309 - The Information Shared Comes From Inspiration, Intuition, Heartfelt-Logic And Information Gathered From Nature And Many Amazing Men And Women Along The Way. It Is Not Found In Any Books Or Channellings, Or Talked About By "Experts". Go Here To Read A Brief Synopsis Of Why We Started Love For Life: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8182

2. For Information About The Ringing Cedars of Russia Series

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1125 and for more on Eco Homes, Villages, Organic and Permaculture Gardening and Life-Sustainability, etc, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3641 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1985 and Mikhail Petrovich Shchetinin - Kin's School - Lycee School at Tekos: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5173

3. For How To Eat A Raw, Living Food Diet,

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5068 - LIFE is information. When we distort LIFE and then eat, drink, absorb, think, feel, hear, see, touch, taste, smell and perform these distortions, the information of LIFE, your LIFE, our LIFE, our children's lives, everyone's LIFE, is distorted.

4. To Find A Menu For The Extensive Research Library (over 8,000 items posted embodying over 11,000 documents, pdf's, videos, podcasts, etc)

Which Covers Topics From Health to Chemtrails/Haarp to Brain Control to Archaeology to Astronomy Geocentricity Heliocentricity to Pandemics Bird Flu Swine Flu to Fluoride to Cancer to Free Energy to Global Warming, 9/11, Bali Bombings, Aspartame, MSG, Vaccinations, Aids/HIV, Mercury, New World Order, Satanism, Religions, Cults, Sects, Symbolism, etc, etc, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/82

5. If You Would Like To Read About The Cristian Family NSW Supreme Court Case

(Macquarie Bank/Perpetual Limited Bank Fraud Condoned By Judges, Registrars, Barristers, Lawyers, Politicians, Public Servants, Bureaucrats, Big Business and Media Representatives - A Crime Syndicate/Terrorist Organisation) Which Prompted The Creation Of This Love For Life Website December 2006, And The Shooting And Torture Of Supporters Who Assisted Us In Reclaiming The Family Home, Joe Bryant And His Wife, Both In Their Late 70's, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5 And Read Some Of Our Email Correspondence With Lawyer Paul Kean - Macedone Christie Willis Solari Partners - Miranda Sydney May 17th-June 27th 2006: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7300

6. For The Stories Of Other Victims Of The System,

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/australian_stories (If you have a story you would like us to put up, we would love to here from you:
action @ loveforlife.com.au)

7. For Documentation Of Harm Done By The Powers-That-Be And Their Representatives,

Evidence Revealing How Victims Did Not Break The Peace, Caused No Crime or Harm, There Were No Injured Parties. Documenting Incontrovertible Evidence Demonstrating How The Powers That Be (PTB) And Their Lackeys Will Break All The Laws They Are Supposed To Uphold. They Will Kidnap, Intimidate, Terrorise, Rape, Pillage, Plunder And Lie And Take Responsibility For None Of It. All Part Of Their Tactics Of Using Fear And Trauma To Keep Us In Our Place. Relatives Of Those Under Their Radar Are Also Not Safe From Attack And Intimidation. All Starting From A $25 Fine For Not Voting And A $65 Fine For Not Changing A Dog Registration. We Do Not Have Freedom And Can Only Appear To Have Freedom If We Comply. Regardless How Small The Matter The PTB Throw Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars Away To Enforce Their Will.... Go Here:
Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office - Part One to Part Ten - From 17th October 2008 And Still Continuing:
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6319 or
Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office
Part One: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5742 - From 17th October 2008
Part Two: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6135 - From 18th December 2008
Part Three: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6295 - From 9th January 2009
Part Four: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6296 - From 14th January 2009
Part Five: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6375 - The Sick Puppy - From 20th February 2009
Part Six: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6390 - Police Officers, Sheriff’s Officers, Tow Truck Driver and State Debt Recovery Office Blatantly Ignore the Law To Rape, Pillage and Plunder The Private Property Of Fiona Cristian - From 11th March 2009
Part Seven: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6445 - Affidavit Of Truth - Letter To The Queen + Australia: Fascism is Corporatism - From 30th March 2009
Part Eight: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6652 - The Pirates Auction And The Ghost Of VSL386 - From 4th April 2009
Part Nine: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7073 - Arthur Cristian's Letter To Pru Goward MP - From 15th December 2009
Part Ten: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7500 - Should We Be In Fear Of Those Who Claim To Protect Us? "Roman Cult" Canon Law - Ecclesiastical Deed Poll - The Work Of Frank O'Collins - From 13th October 2010

8. If You Are Interested In Information On Freedom From Statutes, Rule-Of-Law, Free Man/Free Woman, Strawman, "Person" and Admiralty Law (The Law Of Commerce),

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/895 - For Common Law, Democracy, Constitution, Trial By Jury, Fee Simple, etc, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/category/main/law-articles-documents

9. If You Are Interested In Banking and Money Created (Fiat/Credit/Debt/Mortgage/Loan/Overdraft etc) Out-Of-Thin-Air, How Banks Counterfeit Money,

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/banks

10. For A List Of All The Latest Posts In The Love For Life Website,

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/tracker

11. For Links To Many Hundreds Of Videos, DVDs And Podcasts

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/video_dvd

12. To See The Cristian Family Pledge, Legal and other Disclaimers

go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/06/12/05/love-life-legal-disclaimer

13. To Read About How A Representative Of The NSW Jewish Board Of Deputies Had Threatened To Shut Down The Love For Life Website

go here: Part One: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6616 Part Two: THE STEVE JOHNSON REPORT AND VIDEO: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6665 and Part Three: Latest Update On James Von Brunn: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6673

Conscious Love Always
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
action @ loveforlife.com.au
www.loveforlife.com.au
0418 203204 (int: 0011 61 418 203204)
PO Box 1320 Bowral 2576 NSW Australia

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THE CRISTIAN FAMILY SUPPORTS
FREEDOM OF SPEECH - FREEDOM OF THOUGHT

The Cristian Family November 2006

Posted Wednesday 17th June 2009
Updated September 2011

NSW Jewish Board Of Deputies
Has Threatened To Shut Down
The Love For Life Website

No Freedom Of Speech - No Freedom Of Thought

Love For Life does not support harm doing in any shape or form. However, we are supporters of free speech and post articles, documentaries, etc, that represent a wide cross section of ideas. See the Love For Life extensive research library where over 6000 documents, articles and videos are posted: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/82. We clearly see the evidence of the destruction to MAN and the earth that has been caused by ALL religions over the centuries and are therefore not supporters of religions, cults, sects or any group that demands conformity of thought, speech or action, or has rules, regulations or rituals that must be followed. Religions, nationalities and cultural "identities" are formed as a result of the brainwashing we receive from childhood. They are part of the tactics the Establishment uses to keep us all divided from one another and fighting one another.

All religions promote discrimination and division, leading to hatred and even violence and murder. None of them have yet to produce a remedy to all the suffering, poverty, unhappiness and discrimination in the world. If any religion truly had the remedy to all the suffering on earth, there would no longer be any suffering. What have Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, atheism and the New Age done to end the suffering in the world?

Since December 2006, there have been many attempts to take down the Love For Life website. Any attempts have been thwarted by Love For Life supporters inundating the harm-doers with emails, etc, objecting to them taking down the website for a variety of reasons. The trouble makers usually back off when they realise that they can post all their views, arguments, beliefs, etc, in the Love For Life website without censorship or restriction imposed. They get to see that even the Queen, Pope, Prime Minister, President of America, etc, can post all their views without hindrance or sabotage and that we support freedom of speech/thought which means we support the right of all sides to express their views.

Of note, there is a vast amount of information posted in the Love For Life website which we do not agree with but we leave it all up because we refuse to be biased, opinionated or self-centered/self-serving. Of the many thousands of comments posted over the years we have only removed posts containing secret links to commercial advertisements, terrible foul language, threats of violence and death, etc, and attacks on other people's characters that avoid the subject/debate at hand. Besides links to advertisements, we have taken down less than six comments due to the above. We usually leave everything up, all warts and all, even those posts threatening to do terrible things to Fiona, our children, our dogs, our friends, family & supporters, etc.

The Love For Life website has information from all sides on many subjects, whether about Islam, Judaism, Christianity, Law, health, psychology, mind control, vaccination, aspartame, MSG, Chemtrails etc. There are over 11,000 articles, documentaries etc on the website and they are so diverse that we are sure that everyone would be able to find something they loved and something they hated, if they took the time to search. If we removed all the articles hated by everyone, there would probably be nothing left! We are not anti anyone but freedom of speech is freedom of speech and no one should condemn the work of another without taking the time to research the subject themselves. Yes, there are articles by those who have a less-than-rosy-viewpoint of Judaism, but there are also articles on the dark side of Tibetan Buddhism (and it is very dark) for those who are interested in the truth: Tibet - Buddhism - Dalai Lama: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6271 Should the authors of these articles be abused and imprisoned for daring to challenge the widely conceived reputation of Buddhism as being the religion of peace and love and that of the Dalai Lama as a saint, or should those interested be allowed to study the work and come to their own conclusions? The same applies to all the articles, documentaries, etc, about Christianity, Islam, Freemasonry, New World Order, etc.

The Love for Life website also shows how the Rule of Law, the Bar, the Government, the Monarchy, the system of commerce, the local, national and multi/trans-national private corporations, all the courses and careers on offer from our universities, all the educators, scientists, academics and experts, the aristocrats and the Establishment bloodlines have also done NOTHING to end the suffering in the world. The website maps the insanity of a world where there is no help for those in need, just as there was no help available for us when we were victims of terrible bank fraud: "NSW Supreme Court Case - Macquarie Bank/Perpetual Limited vs Fiona Cristian - Victims Of Bank Fraud Condoned By Judges" http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5 (orchestrated, condoned and protected by an international crime syndicate/terrorist organisation of judges, barristers, registrars, lawyers, politicians, banksters, big business representatives, media moguls and other lackeys who, all together, put up a wall of silence despite our trying many, many avenues. After the family home was stolen and business destroyed we were left close to poverty and destitution caring for 4 young daughters. Three years later not much has changed regardless of all our efforts. Where were all the followers of all the religions to help us? Or do we have to be members of those religions to receive help from others involved in them?

The New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies accused us of being anti - Jewish, see: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6616 and http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6665 because we had posted an excerpt from James von Brun's book: Kill the Best Gentiles: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6054 in which he blames Jews for the problems of the world. Obviously this is not our view because of what we have stated above. We do not hate anyone, whatever religion they follow. We are always open to talk to any religious leader or politician and meet with any judge, member of the Bar, experts, academics, educators etc to share the remedy we offer that heals all the divisions between MAN and MAN, and MAN and the EARTH.

Today, a representative of the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies is threatening to close the website down, because they have decided it is anti - Jewish and that we promote racism. What has the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies done to end the suffering in the world? Can they show that they are concerned with the suffering of ALL men, women and children AND ARE SEEN TO BE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT or are they only concerned with Jewish affairs? If so, they, along with all the other religions that only care for their own, are part of the problem, not part of the solution. The man who rang Arthur today was only concerned with Jewish affairs; he was not interested in our intentions or in anybody else, just as most Christians, Muslims, Sikhs, Catholics, etc, are only interested in their own. While we separate ourselves into groups, dividing ourselves from others with rules, regulations, rituals, procedures and conditions, we will never solve our problems.

No matter what we in the Western World Civilisation of Commerce have been promised by our politicians, religious leaders, scientists, educators, philosophers, etc, for the past two hundred years, all we have seen is ever-increasing destruction of men, women and children and the earth. None of the so-called experts and leaders we have been taught to rely on are coming up with a solution and none of them are taking full-responsibility for the fact that they can't handle the problem. All religious books talk about end times full of destruction and suffering but why do we have to follow this program when there is an alternative to hatred, mayhem and death? Why are our leaders following the program of destruction and death rather than exploring the alternatives? It seems that any mainstream politician, priest or academic are only interested in supporting the RULES OF THE DIVIDE, that maintain the haves and the have nots. For 200+ years, 99% of the world population have been so trained to pass on their responsibility for themselves, others and the earth, that the 1% of the population that make up the leaders of the rest of us are making all the decisions leading to the destruction of all of us and the earth. Let's not forget the education system that brainwashes the 99% of the population that we are free and have equal rights while, in fact, we are feathering the nests of those at the top.

At the root of all our problems is self-centredness, an unwillingness nurtured by the Establishment that keeps us concerned only with our own needs rather than the needs of others around us and the Earth. Instead of creating and releasing acts of love for those around us as gifts to benefit them and the earth, we take, take and take, until there is nothing left. The whole point of the Love for Life website is to show people the root of all our problems and to share the remedy. The extensive research library is there to attract browsers and to provide access to information not available through mainstream channels. If the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies can, after careful examination of our work, prove that anything we are saying is wrong, we will be happy to accept their proof. If they cannot, and they are still insistent on closing the website down, they will be showing themselves to be traitors to MAN because they are not interested in pursuing any avenue that can end the suffering in the world.

All religions, corporations and organisations that support and maintain the Western World Civilisation of Commerce are part of the problem because our civilisation is a world of haves and have nots, racism, violence, hatred, poverty, sickness, discrimination, abuse, starvation, homelessness, corruption, collusion, vindictiveness, social unrest, arrogance, ignorance, fear, war and chaos. While we support civilisation, we support death and destruction because ALL civilisations that have ever existed are apocalyptic by design.

If we truly want peace on earth and freedom for all, we have to let go of all that which keeps us divided, and come together as MAN, conscious living co-creators of creation. The Love For Life website offers a remedy to the problems we all face in the form of DO NO HARM COMMUNITIES: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3641 For more details see here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6511 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 - We also highly recommend that everyone read the brilliant Russian books called The Ringing Cedars: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1125 - The Love For Life Website Homepage also provides lots of inspiring remedy based information: http://loveforlife.com.au - If you want to be kept up to date with our work please register to the Love For Life Mailing List here: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/09/05/14/mailing-list. We usually send two postings per month. Presently (September 2011) there are over 7000 registrations reaching over 500,000 readers across Earth. The website now (September 2011) receives up to 12 million hits per month. Since December 2006, over 100 million people have visited the Love For Life website.

Conscious Love Always
Arthur and Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
17th June 2009

The Cristian Family November 2006

Clarification Regarding Our Intentions
Behind The Use Of Donations

The Love For Life website is offered for free without a fee and without any conditions attached. If people are inspired to donate money, then we accept their gift and have provided an avenue for them to support the work we do through Fiona's Paypal or ANZ bank account http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8515. There is no obligation whatsoever to donate and all are equally welcome to our work and to our "time", whether they donate or not. Over the last 9 years, all the Love For Life work has been put out for free and it has often been donations from supporters that have enabled us to renew the domain name, etc, to keep the website going. While some complain that we have an avenue for donations, others complained when we didn't! Either use it or don't - the choice is yours.

Since Love For Life started March 2005 and website December 2006, Arthur has worked 16 hours a day, 7 days a week unpaid for much of this period, putting together the website and sharing insights to wake people up to what has been done to them, whether through the 11,500+ individual articles, videos, podcasts, debates, discussions, pdf's, research documents, etc, found amongst the 8,500+ posts, as well as helping many, many men and women over the phone, and through email, website correspondence, Facebook and YouTube, and creating the Love For Life food forest vege garden and Love For Life music recording studio. This is our life is a gift commitment to serve MAN/Nature/Earth but we are still severely compromised by "The System" and still have to give to Caesar what is claimed to belong to Caesar, which is where the donations help us.

Fiona & Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
21st July 2014