Have a read of this reply from Fiona Cristian to Pauline Wraith http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5147#comments - http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5174 earlier today 30th July 2008, particularly about ownership.
30th July 2008
Dear Pauline,
Thank you for your comments and sorry to take so long to get back to you. As I am extremely busy being Mum I have cut and pasted relevant bits and pieces from other emails I've sent which already explain what needs to be stated as part of my reply to you.
Firstly, The Ringing Cedars series is not a work of fiction. Anastasia is a conscious living woman who lives in the Siberian forest all year round. That she is fully conscious is shown by the fact that the way she lives does no harm She is pure, sincere and loving in thought, word, feeling and deed. Before you decide these books have nothing to offer you, why don't you give them a try? We only grow out of what we don't know, not what we already know.
Having read your comments about Christians who died in painful circumstances with joy in their hearts, I am not at all surprised. After reading the Ringing Cedars series, I can comprehend that we are not our physical bodies. Our physical bodies are the tools we use while living physical lives on the earth. Our consciousness never dies. We can ignore it, but it is always there, just as the consciousness of our ancestors and the consciousness of our descendants is the same consciousness as our consciousness. Why did Jesus die on the cross if not to show that we are not our physical bodies and that we do not need to own even our physical bodies? Arthur has been writing about his insights on this subject for some time now. Refer to these documents of Arthur's that are getting tens of thousands of strikes per week:
And The Well Armed Meek Shall Inherit The Earth by Raymond Karczewski, Email Correspondence With Arthur Cristian & Others PART 1: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5130
And The Well Armed Meek Shall Inherit The Earth by Raymond Karczewski, Email Correspondence With Arthur Cristian & Others PART 2: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5131
And The Well Armed Meek Shall Inherit The Earth by Raymond Karczewski, Email Correspondence With Arthur Cristian & Others PART 3: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5134
And The Well Armed Meek Shall Inherit The Earth by Raymond Karczewski, Email Correspondence With Arthur Cristian & Others PART 4: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5136
And The Well Armed Meek Shall Inherit The Earth by Raymond Karczewski, Email Correspondence With Arthur Cristian & Others PART 5: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5137
And The Well Armed Meek Shall Inherit The Earth by Raymond Karczewski, Email Correspondence With Arthur Cristian & Others PART 6: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5140
Recognising The Distinction Between Information That Is CREATION & Knowledge That Is FICTION Is Critical To Reclaiming Freedom: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5079
Recognising The Distinction Between Information That Is CREATION & Knowledge That Is FICTION Is Critical To Reclaiming Freedom: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5079
The Demons Of Caught (Court) - The Rule Of Law - Email Reply From Arthur Cristian To Edward 23rd June 2008 - Updated 29/06/2008: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/4935
And others here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/arthur_cristian
The power of love has been largely forgotten about but it is love that we need to be focusing on and creating. When we look after love, love takes care of everything else. By love I mean practical acts that help others and the earth, not the Hollywood, Valentine's Day schmaltzy sort of love which is what we are all supposed to live our lives out of according to Hollywood, the media etc. Remember, what we focus on is what we create. I want a world of love and peace so that is what I am focusing on.
It is important to remember that, as we take the steps that expand our consciousness, we do not remain as we are now. A group of committed men and women, working with the power of love has an immense amount of loving power. We are creators and we can create what we need, as Arthur and I have over the last two years. Every time we have been on the edge with not enough money to pay the rent or whatever, something has happened and money or help has arrived as needed. Don't underestimate how men and women respond to love in action. We have already been contacted by a few people saying, "I have land and I want to do community,".
As more and more of us become conscious of the fact that we cannot "own" land as the land is not ours to "own", more and more people will want to donate their land for the creation of Do No Harm communities (not just the one we are living on). You can be sure that if you have land you "own", it was once land that was freely available for all to take care of. We should be care takers of the earth, not owners. As soon as we "own" something, we have to protect it and this leads to trust issues, feeling separated from others and, depending on your inclinations, to the possession of weapons designed to kill. Nothing loving there.
There is only one solution to the imminent global commercial crash. We will only be able to live lives of freedom, joy and abundance if we are living together in communities where we can support each other, building each others houses and helping in one another's gardens. See these 9 short videos about a Russian community (Kindom) called Rodnoe: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5148 It will be impossible, or very, very difficult to survive without the support of others around us. Also, I can't think of a better way to live!
The basic structure of a Kindom is two and a half acres for each family, which is more than enough to grow the food we need and community areas and a school. For an example of such a kindom please see the above link which has nine short video clips from a community in Russia set up along these lines. Also, check this school in Russia which is a close model of the one we have in mind: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5173
There are several communities flourishing there but of course they are never mentioned by the media. We are in contact with many around the globe who are tired with life under the establishment and long for the love, support and security community living offers.
A Do No Harm Kindom is all about taking responsibility to do no harm to yourself, those around you or the earth. Therefore I am responsible for the lives of those around me, just as they are responsible for me which means I will do my utmost to ensure that those around me have all they need to have happy, fruitful lives. That is my responsibility just as it is the responsibility all of us should be taking, instead of the "don't worry mate, it'll be all right" attitude prevalent today.
Away from the fiction, as Arthur and I say,"There is no law but for arguments sake l say that Do No Harm is the only law that needs to exist. When we all take FULL RESPONSIBILITY for Doing No Harm in word, thought, deed or feeling, MAN and Earth will flourish again and we will all lead lives of peace, joy and abundance".
If I do no harm, you do no harm and all those around us do no harm, what have we got? A world of no harm. Sounds pretty good to me! Are you up for that? Are you prepared to take the steps necessary to ensure you are doing no harm to yourself, others and the earth? If you take the time to examine your life, you will be amazed at the extent of harm you are causing.
Obviously, it takes time - I am doing harm now as I write this email; I am using electricity from a non renewable source that has caused destruction to the earth, as has the construction of the computer I am using. I am harming myself with the electro magnetic fields emanating from the computer and, I suppose, I am harming you by writing a long email that will cause you to bathe in electro magnetic fields as you read it! However, just because I cannot stop all areas of harm doing in my life immediately, does not mean it is not absolutely vital that I begin as soon as possible.
Money seems to be the ultimate divide and rule, the thing that really keeps us all apart and holding on for all we are worth. I can't wait until I no longer have to have anything to do with it but, for the present, I obviously can't do without it. The fact that we have none has not stopped us doing what we have done for the last two years so I don't see why we shouldn't focus on community just because we don't have the money ourselves. Others have money and, as they wake up to the fact that they don't own anything, those who also yearn for community will be delighted to be able to contribute financially. Saying this seems to press buttons for a lot of people but is there really any difference in someone coming to community saying, "I am a carpenter, I offer my skills, " and someone saying, "I have money to offer community." That many of us are so easily riled by money issues shows how much power we give it.
You say, "I think I will make my stand with something/someone solid and real", but what solid and real thing is Jesus offering you? I find a group of men and women, all selflessly committed to community, a lot more solid than someone I can't see, feel, hear, touch or taste. Is there anything better we could be doing with our lives? Should we have our children sit with bibles in their hands praying to God while Australian men and women walk down the street with guns in their hands keeping order while everyone is forced into line ups to be injected with a microchip?
I am not a christian so I have never studied the word of scripture and I don't intend to as I consider (no offense to you intended) all religions to be tools of the dark side that keep us divided from one another and deny our role as creators by insisting that we need 3rd parties between us and the consciousness that is us and is the living God of creation. As I feel that religions do harm and preach harm, what we are saying is probably not at all in accordance with the word of the scriptures. However, I would ask you to consider this; if Jesus, who I prefer to call the great MAN, had only one message, was it not, Love thy neighbour? That is what community is all about to me, not about who said what where when, who is right or wrong about the way to love God, who will be saved and who will fall, whose is the right religion and whose the wrong.
I do not need a preacher to tell me how to love God or my fellow men and women. I willingly take that responsibility myself. I do not need a preacher to tell me to do no harm. I willingly take that responsibility myself. I do not invite a third party, whether it be man, woman or book, to come between me and the creation that I am part of.
Best wishes to you and your loved ones,
Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
action @ loveforlife.com.au
www.loveforlife.com.au
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29th July 2008
This is another reply from Fiona Cristian to Dai Andrew Buckley
Dear Dai,
Thank you for your comments and sorry to take so long to get back to you.
Firstly, you ask who is "we". The "we" in the title "What are we waiting for?" refers to all of us. There are very few men and women on the planet actually taking action to step out of the fiction that rules us and into lives that do no harm to themselves, others and the planet. That it is necessary for all of us to do this should be obvious from the state of the earth and the misery of the lives of many who live on it. Even many of those who have plenty to eat and drink as well as more than enough material possessions are not happy as they remain unfulfilled by their lives of consumerism.
There is only one solution to the imminent global commercial crash. We will only be able to live lives of freedom, joy and abundance if we are living together in communities where we can support each other, building each others houses and helping in one another's gardens. See these 9 short videos about a Russian community (Kindom) called Rodnoe: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5148
The power of love has been largely forgotten about but it is love that we need to be focusing on and creating. When we look after love, love takes care of everything else. By love I mean practical acts that help others and the earth, not the Hollywood, Valentine's Day schmaltzy sort of love which is what we are all supposed to live our lives out of according to Hollywood, the media etc.
And why do we need fiat? Well, perhaps we don't and I am constantly amazed and grateful for how far we have come with very little of it in a world entirely dependent upon it. Perhaps those who "own" land will be inspired to donate it to community and, indeed, we have already been contacted by a few people saying, "I have land and I want to do community,".
As more and more of us become conscious of the fact that we cannot "own" land as the land is not ours to "own", more and more people will want to donate their land for the creation of Do No Harm communities (not just the one we are living on). You can be sure that if you have land you "own", it was once land that was freely available for all to take care of. We should be care takers of the earth, not owners. As soon as we "own" something, we have to protect it and this leads to trust issues, feeling separated from others and, depending on your inclinations, to the possession of weapons designed to kill. Nothing loving there.
However, while the fiction that is money can still be used, I don't have a problem using fiction to step out of the fiction. Fiat is an evil that has caused much misery but, if someone offered me a million dollars tomorrow I would certainly accept it as then I would be able to buy land and the first Do No Harm community in Australia would have a home. The land would not be mine, it would be in the care of all members of the community.
You get us wrong when you say we are asking others to follow our ideas. Firstly, we are no one's sheep nor shepherd. If someone wants to join with us in community, it will be because their heart tells them to, not because we do! I can't think of anything worse than people doing things because we told them to rather than because they truly have the desire for community too. And there are many who do. We are in contact with many around the globe who are tired with life under the establishment and long for the love, support and security community living offers. We are creating community with others who wish to do so. It is not "our" path and not "our" Kindom. I am a community member, not a community leader. I want to live a life that does no harm and I want to do that with others who feel the same.
A Do No Harm Kindom is all about taking responsibility to do no harm to yourself, those around you or the earth. Therefore, of course I am responsible for the lives of those around me, just as they are responsible for me. Will I "accept full personal liability" for the lives of those around me? Well the term is fictional rubbish but actually means what I have just said. Yes. I will do my utmost to ensure that those around me have all they need to have happy, fruitful lives. That is my responsibility just as it is the responsibility all of us should be taking, instead of the "don't worry mate, it'll be all right" attitude prevalent today.
The basic structure of a Kindom is two and a half acres for each family, which is more than enough to grow the food we need and community areas and a school. For an example of such a kindom please see the above link which has nine short video clips from a community in Russia set up along these lines. Also, check this school in Russia which is a close model of the one we have in mind: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5173
There are several communities flourishing there but of course they are never mentioned by the media. I also highly recommend the Ringing Cedars of Russia series: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/3644 These books are extremely inspiring with their vision of how the world could be if we were all to stop being self centred and start living our lives for everybody else. As you are a christian, I don't know how you would find them but I do know that some religious leaders condemn them while others recommend them, so I guess you'll just have to read them and see!
Not being a christian myself, I don't know exactly what you refer to when you say the "unchanging Law of the Living Father". As Arthur and I say "There is no law but for arguments sake l say that Do No Harm is the only law that needs to exist. When we all take FULL RESPONSIBILITY for Doing No Harm in word, thought, deed or feeling, MAN and Earth will flourish again and we will all lead lives of peace, joy and abundance".
If I do no harm, you do no harm and all those around us do no harm, what have we got? A world of no harm. Sounds pretty good to me!
Obviously, it takes time - I am doing harm now as I write this email; I am using electricity from a non renewable source that has caused destruction to the earth, as has the construction of the computer I am using. I am harming myself with the electro magnetic fields emanating from the computer and, I suppose, I am harming you by writing a long email that will cause you to bathe in electro magnetic fields as you read it!
You seem offended that we invite donations. Some people do give us donations because they are inspired by what we write. We could charge a small monthly fee for registration to our website and mailing list but we feel that the information we share should be freely available for anyone, just as food, drink and shelter was freely provided on our planet by the living God of creation, so we continue to exist on not enough, creating the community we long for by focusing on it rather than spending our time on making more fictional money and supporting the fiction while we do so. And if we did we could not possibly have the time to create all the information we have created or the website that now has a million hits per month. If community is the answer (the remedy) to our problems and we are not inspiring others, who is going to do that?
As we say in the article "The establishment's system is not about supporting freedom or those who seek it, particularly those determined to show the way to freedom for all. We are determined to stay on this path and we welcome support of any kind, whether it be financial, material, help to publish the booklet, land to set up the first Do No Harm community in Australia, or whatever help anyone has to offer. The establishment is determined to see us wilt away, too weak to continue on this path of getting rid of them. This doesn't live for us." What is wrong with us being supported to make this dream come true for ourselves and others? Is there anything better we could be doing with our lives? Should we have our children sit with bibles in their hands praying to God while Australian men and women walk down the street with guns in their hands keeping order while everyone is forced into line ups to be to be injected with a microchip?
Money seems to be the ultimate divide and rule, the thing that really keeps us all apart and holding on for all we are worth. I can't wait until I no longer have to have anything to do with it.
We are not spending hours and hours building our website to educate others about the great CON we have all fallen for and to inspire them to leave it all behind just for the benefit of our immediate family. Our family cannot live a life of freedom, joy and abundance while there are others who aren't. That's the whole point - if we don't take full responsibility for others, who's going to take responsibility for us? Our whole lives are about setting up community. If someone gives me $5 dollars, yes it will go towards food on my table. If someone gives me a million dollars, it will go towards land for the community. The point is, whether you give me $5 dollars that buys us food or a million dollars that buys us land, you are supporting community because we are community, just as you are community if you want to be.
I am not a christian so I have never studied the word of scripture and I don't intend to as I consider (no offense to you intended) all religions to be tools of the dark side that keep us divided from one another and deny our role as creators by insisting that we need 3rd parties between us and the consciousness that is us and is the living God of creation. As I feel that religions do harm and preach harm, what we are saying is probably not at all in accordance with the word of the scriptures. However, I would ask you to consider this; if Jesus, who I prefer to call the great MAN, had only one message, was it not, Love thy neighbour? That is what community is all about to me, not about who said what where when, who is right or wrong about the way to love God, who will be saved and who will fall, whose is the right religion and whose the wrong.
I do not need a preacher to tell me how to love God or my fellow men and women. I willingly take that responsibility myself. I do not need a preacher to tell me to do no harm. I willingly take that responsibility myself. I do not invite a third party, whether it be man, woman or book, to come between me and the creation that I am part of.
Best wishes to you and your loved ones,
Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
action @ loveforlife.com.au
www.loveforlife.com.au
Note: Updated Wednesday 17th June 2009 8.00pm Sydney Time. Love For Life does not support harm doing in any shape or form. However, we are supporters of free speech and post articles, documentaries, etc, that represent a wide cross section of ideas. See the Love For Life extensive research library where over 6000 documents, articles and videos are posted: http://loveforlife.com.au/issues. We clearly see the evidence of the destruction to MAN and the earth that has been caused by ALL religions over the centuries and are therefore not supporters of religions, cults, sects or any group that demands conformity of thought, speech or action, or has rules, regulations or rituals that must be followed. Religions, nationalities and cultural "identities" are formed as a result of the brainwashing we receive from childhood. They are part of the tactics the Establishment uses to keep us all divided from one another and fighting one another.
All religions promote discrimination and division, leading to hatred and even violence and murder. None of them have yet to produce a remedy to all the suffering, poverty, unhappiness and discrimination in the world. If any religion truly had the remedy to all the suffering on earth, there would no longer be any suffering. What have Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, atheism and the New Age done to end the suffering in the world?
The Love For Life website has information from all sides on many subjects, whether about Islam, Judaism, Christianity, Law, health, psychology, mind control, vaccination, aspartame, MSG, Chemtrails etc. There are over 6000 articles, documentaries etc on the website and they are so diverse that we are sure that everyone would be able to find something they loved and something they hated, if they took the time to search. If we removed all the articles hated by everyone, there would probably be nothing left! We are not anti anyone but freedom of speech is freedom of speech and no one should condemn the work of another without taking the time to research the subject themselves. Yes, there are articles by those who have a less-than-rosy-viewpoint of Judaism, but there are also articles on the dark side of Tibetan Buddhism (and it is very dark) for those who are interested in the truth: Tibet - Buddhism - Dalai Lama: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6271 Should the authors of these articles be abused and imprisoned for daring to challenge the widely conceived reputation of Buddhism as being the religion of peace and love and that of the Dalai Lama as a saint, or should those interested be allowed to study the work and come to their own conclusions? The same applies to all the articles, documentaries, etc, about Christianity, Islam, Freemasonry, New World Order, etc.
The Love for Life website also shows how the Rule of Law, the Bar, the Government, the Monarchy, the system of commerce, the local, national and multi/trans-national private corporations, all the courses and careers on offer from our universities, all the educators, scientists, academics and experts, the aristocrats and the Establishment bloodlines have also done NOTHING to end the suffering in the world. The website maps the insanity of a world where there is no help for those in need, just as there was no help available for us when we were victims of terrible bank fraud: http://loveforlife.com.au/court_case (orchestrated, condoned and protected by an international crime syndicate/terrorist organisation of judges, barristers, registrars, lawyers, politicians, banksters, big business representatives, media moguls and other lackeys who, all together, put up a wall of silence despite our trying many, many avenues. After the family home was stolen and business destroyed we were left close to poverty and destitution caring for 4 young daughters. Three years later not much has changed regardless of all our efforts. Where were all the followers of all the religions to help us? Or do we have to be members of those religions to receive help from others involved in them?
We have been accused of being anti - Jewish because we had posted an excerpt from James von Brun's book: Kill the Best Gentiles! http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6054 in which he blames Jews for the problems of the world. Obviously this is not our view because of what we have stated above. We do not hate anyone, whatever religion they follow. We are always open to talk to any religious leader or politician and meet with any judge, member of the Bar, experts, academics, educators etc to share the remedy we offer that heals all the divisions between MAN and MAN, and MAN and the EARTH.
Today, a representative of the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies is threatening to close the website down, because they have decided it is anti - Jewish and that we promote racism. What has the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies done to end the suffering in the world? Can they show that they are concerned with the suffering of ALL men, women and children AND ARE SEEN TO BE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT or are they only concerned with Jewish affairs? If so, they, along with all the other religions that only care for their own, are part of the problem, not part of the solution. The man who rang Arthur today was only concerned with Jewish affairs; he was not interested in our intentions or in anybody else, just as most Christians, Muslims, Sikhs, Catholics, etc, are only interested in their own. While we separate ourselves into groups, dividing ourselves from others with rules, regulations, rituals, procedures and conditions, we will never solve our problems.
No matter what we in the Western World Civilisation of Commerce have been promised by our politicians, religious leaders, scientists, educators, philosophers, etc, for the past two hundred years, all we have seen is ever-increasing destruction of men, women and children and the earth. None of the so-called experts and leaders we have been taught to rely on are coming up with a solution and none of them are taking full-responsibility for the fact that they can't handle the problem. All religious books talk about end times full of destruction and suffering but why do we have to follow this program when there is an alternative to hatred, mayhem and death? Why are our leaders following the program of destruction and death rather than exploring the alternatives? It seems that any mainstream politician, priest or academic are only interested in supporting the RULES OF THE DIVIDE, that maintain the haves and the have nots. For 200+ years, 99% of the world population have been so trained to pass on their responsibility for themselves, others and the earth, that the 1% of the population that make up the leaders of the rest of us are making all the decisions leading to the destruction of all of us and the earth. Let's not forget the education system that brainwashes the 99% of the population that we are free and have equal rights while, in fact, we are feathering the nests of those at the top.
At the root of all our problems is self-centredness, an unwillingness nurtured by the Establishment that keeps us concerned only with our own needs rather than the needs of others around us and the Earth. Instead of creating and releasing acts of love for those around us as gifts to benefit them and the earth, we take, take and take, until there is nothing left. The whole point of the Love for Life website is to show people the root of all our problems and to share the remedy. The extensive research library is there to attract browsers and to provide access to information not available through mainstream channels. If the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies can, after careful examination of our work, prove that anything we are saying is wrong, we will be happy to accept their proof. If they cannot, and they are still insistent on closing the website down, they will be showing themselves to be traitors to MAN because they are not interested in pursuing any avenue that can end the suffering in the world.
All religions, corporations and organisations that support and maintain the Western World Civilisation of Commerce are part of the problem because our civilisation is a world of haves and have nots, racism, violence, hatred, poverty, sickness, discrimination, abuse, starvation, homelessness, corruption, collusion, vindictiveness, social unrest, arrogance, ignorance, fear, war and chaos. While we support civilisation, we support death and destruction because ALL civilisations that have ever existed are apocalyptic by design.
If we truly want peace on earth and freedom for all, we have to let go of all that which keeps us divided, and come together as MAN, conscious living co-creators of creation. The Love For Life website offers a remedy to the problems we all face in the form of DO NO HARM COMMUNITIES: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3641 For more details see here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6511 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 - We also highly recommend that everyone read the brilliant Russian books called The Ringing Cedars: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1125 - The Love For Life homepage/front-page also provides lots of inspiring remedy based information: http://loveforlife.com.au - If you want to be kept up to date with our work please register to the Love For Life mailing list here: http://loveforlife.com.au/campaign_list We usually send two postings per month. Presently there are over 5000 registrations reaching over 200,000 readers globally. The website now receives over 2 million strikes per month with June 2009 heading close to (or over) 3 million strikes.
Conscious Love Always
Arthur and Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
17th June 2009