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A World Of Words Is A World Of Lies by Arthur Cristian - Love For Life - 13th June 2014

The Cristian Family November 2006

A World Of Words
Is A World Of Lies


Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
13th June 2014

Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8527

Facebook Link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203921833554291

We use our senses to communicate - all of nature does this which clearly tells you/us that senses is our true tongue. All words are lies, all read and write alphabet languages, mathematics and geometry/sacred geometry are abominations. They are always in and of 3rd party.

While a "dog" with a few sniffs can gain a vast amount of information about the MAN through direct-experience, first party to first party, the dumbed-down brainwashed MAN lost to (indoctrinated by) words is thinking words "brown-dog". This shows you the vast depth of our fallen state. Argue for your limitations and sure enough they are yours. We've provided sufficient links to help you fully comprehend the big-picture.

Does a child first have to believe in a tree before the child can sense the tree???? Of course not, the presence of the tree (LIFE) is already present to the child and the presence of the child (LIFE) is already present to the tree - NO EDUCATION/INSTRUCTION/BRAINWASHING required. But when we educate our children they get lost in words which completely disconnects them from using their senses to have a direct experience with the tree.

If we say to a child that that sensory life-form over there is a daffodil and is yellow and is part of this and that and does this and that, etc, etc, and the innocent child trusts us, looks up to us, and we have not provided the child with full-disclosure, the next "time" a brainwashed child comes across this sensory-life-form, the child's head will be spinning with all the "words" we filled the child's head up with, words, words, words, words (spells) bouncing to and fro between the ears (so to speak).

The child is now using words to completely cover (superimpose) the sensory-life-form in darkness.

Imagine taking a potato sack to completely shroud/hood the life-form in darkness. This is what the child is doing. The child can no longer sense the sensory information coming directly from a sensory-life-form willingly sharing its purpose for the dream of life with the child.

The words spinning in the child's head has become a SHATTERED REALITY.

The child is now under the image power of another MAN who was acting as an impostor of the sensory-life-form. The fallen-MAN hijacked the natural character and attributes of the sensory life-form. This is fraud, is lying and is completely destroying the child.

The child cannot create unique original thoughts/dreams to create the unique original MAN he/she was supposed to be creating. Now the child is just a clone, a drone, a robot, a slave, under the control of the performance of the image power of another MAN who imposed his will over the child.

The child has now been hijacked from direct experience.

The MAN now controls the child as his/her slave.

In "The System" with its education, instruction, explanation, imagine your whole life being this process to produce a shattered reality for you so that you can be a slave used and abused by your slave master/s in whatever way they want you to perform/behave/act. Your slave master now compels you to act (the pull of e-motions/reaction to trauma that are the words of a shattered reality) exactly how your slave master wants you to act.

If you have been educated you have already been destroyed of who you really are and what you are really part of.

Best to give up all your brainwashing first before beginning to attempt the sensory communication of truth.

A world of words is a world of lies.

A world of words is a shattered reality.

We were never meant to be educated by anyone.

Refer to the Sequential Order below as it provides the big-picture we see/sense. You can also scroll down Arthur's Facebook wall to explore the past few months of this type of insightful work which will be added to the Sequential Order in the near future. All updates to the Sequential Order can be found on the home page of the Love For Life website www.loveforlife.com.au - scroll down to find it.

All the best to you and your family.

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

Another Delusion - Posted by Arthur Cristian - Love For Life - 11th June 2014 - Freeman Delusion

The Cristian Family November 2006

Another Delusion


Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

11th June 2014

Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8526

This is a conversation with Freeman Delusion, Rob, where it becomes clear that his thoughts and basis of Common Law provide only a cul-de-sac in "The System" and not true peace, freedom, truth, joy, etc. Freeman Delusion wants to keep people in the slavery system as educated slaves, keeping them distracted by Common Law, in this case, or Freeman stuff or anything legal and political or philosophical, etc, that maintains the hold of "The System" over the brains of men and women. Common Law is, in fact, just another psyop program to keep us busy while the steamroller that is the New World Order rolls ever closer. This is a very heated discussion which has had the naughty words sanitised so everyone can use their imaginations to guess what they were. Answers on a postcard please. Or perhaps not.

To us, Rob (Freeman Delusion) now re-presents an immense danger to a lot of innocent people and if he is not stopped, will cause phenomenal damage to many naive and gullible men and women who have been deceived/conned by this blatant liar. Many men and women not provided with full-disclosure as to Rob's true ulterior motives, cul-de-sac intentions (massive red herring distractions) and who his real master is will be led down the yellow brick road and therefore remaining completely enslaved in "The System" with no way of ever getting out. The fact that Rob also came out of the exposure and routing out of OPPT (One Peoples Public Trust) with us and others makes it even more serious to stop his nefarious work dead in its tracks because he now has an excellent "looking good" fabricated front to deceive others. As we often say... the greatest lie and liar is the one closest to the truth - they cause the greatest damage of all.

The Legal Psyops Program

The whole freeman-sovereignty movement was an Intel Psyop Program designed to destroy the truth by getting as close to it as they possibly could without revealing it fully. They build it all up to get people thinking that there is a way to find freedom, etc, etc. Then, after a few, mini-slave "victories" to increase the fervour, they smash it all in the believers faces to demoralise them, weaken them, have them be powerless and vulnerable and thus easy to manipulate and make them pliable and conditioned to accept the "rule of law" enforced upon them, a law very closely aligned to common law, although not always called common law.

Once things have fallen flat on their faces, people look back to Common Law or Natural Law, or Constitution because we have been so conditioned into thinking that we need to have some sort of law, that we cannot be free to take full responsibility for our lives. They cannot introduce the New World Order without some kind of law, so they need us to keep thinking that we need law, need someone to tell us what to do and what not to do. Yes, they want us to be disillusioned with the "old" law, and to be looking for something new, but they want to be the ones to present us with the "new", "good" law that we will lap up in its "oneness", "consciousness" disguise.

The shepherds who led everyone to the freeman/sovereign movement are now leading everyone to the rule of law, whatever sort of law, just any kind of law accepted by the "authorities" that keeps us in their courts, in their paperwork, under the "name", in "The System" with no way out, always accepting the third party authorities. Once we step out of the rule of law, they have no control over us which is why they have so many shepherds chivvying us all along.

What they do NOT want us to do is do what Arthur has done - stop using the "name" and drop all the privileges and benefits that go with it and completely depart from "The System" never to return. If we all did this, what would they have? NOTHING because no one would be paying them any attention any more! This brings them out into the open for all to see and they can only attempt to control us through overt force which shows their true colours, who they are and what their intentions are.

EVERYTHING to do with any law of any sort is a Psyop Program.

At all "times" through all "stages", from freeman/sovereignty through whatever "alternative" to the "rule of law", it has always been a Psyop Program.

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

Facebook Link: https://www.facebook.com/rightascention/posts/608369562603320 - at the end of this discussion/debate last night, Rob quickly took down this thread or at least completely blocked us after removing the Facebook friendship.

Freeman Delusion https://www.facebook.com/rightascention

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This shit is loosing it's challenge and becoming intolerably boring. I can't even get an intelligible argument, let alone a valid piece of supportive evidence.

I shouldn't really be surprised though, considering, as I've often said, that freeman ideology is little more than a faith-based belief system, not unlike a religious persuasion, and in no way an established legal doctrine.

And as Friedrich Nietzsche once said... "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything."

BE AWARE that you are being indoctrinated and lied to, by a well-planned psy-op that seeks to limit the collective's chances of any successful attempt at challenging the status quo.

YOU ARE BEING DUMBED DOWN WITH FAIRYTALES.

Denial of reality is ultimately a form of cowardice, a cop out, obstinately refusing to accept well established facts, in favour of a delusional alternate reality that doesn't even exist, let alone provide a logical solution to any legal dilemma here in the real world.

Good luck with that...

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Mathias Nagy

I appreciate people like you Freeman, who present near invisible facts and make rational comment on their implication. Unfortunately, intelligent discussion is near impossible for you as you probably know more than 99.9% of the rest of us, but it doesn't mean what you provide isn't useful or appreciated. In fact it proves we need to hear what you have to say. Perhaps even better, if you would teach us how to do the research ourselves, by indicating purpose and relevant documentation, you may just create the lively intelligent debate we all need to keep moving forward.

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Helen Dodds

Me too

lets look at the constitutional debates ?

the spirit of the laws

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Freeman Delusion

I'm no guru or expert in anything academic, I was actually refused an education by my dad, who removed me from school in grade 5 primary. I'm lucky to even read and write, let alone use a search engine and research anything so complicated and potentially believable. I know nothing really, but the fact of my own ignorance, and continue to rebut my own previous assertions.

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Helen Dodds

wel the school of hard Knocks hehehe you are a GURU you in part showed me I am me that is what a guru does hahaah

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Mathias Nagy

An absence of public indoctrination (ie education) is probably part of what made you question the illusion others live in.

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Helen Dodds

how abot some you tube like others ?

branch into a different media

hahah as you may have realized i forgot to reference the constitutional debates and have been trolling through them again I must say they are more interesting than i was led to believe thought it would be boring but them old blockes had it going on Found my self cheering about the free man constitutional free man conversations hahaha and that they always intended that women should have the vote be cause of oppresive domestic Mans rule hahaha they are great

A must for every one ! looking to use the laws enshrined in the constition our rule of law heho this will in my oppinon put your sole at rest Knowing the spirit of our laws and why they came to be

these documents has given one a solid foundation on which to build their lives of free man sovereignty in a Lawfull manner

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Freeman Delusion

I needed a year 10 to begin an apprenticeship in Signwriting at 15, this was my first attempt at law, taking the Apprenticeship Board to civil court to establish my literacy competency to learn the trade. My boss and I won the case, after I sat a general knowledge and I.Q. exams at Tafe to gauge my approximate level of education. They said in the final court submission that the results showed I had a higher literacy level than the average year 10 lol...

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Helen Dodds

good on you my education ceased in grade 8 (qld )and attended thirteen different schools during my formal education my bad grammar spelling is an asset Phonetics is good for me. i kept well away from it all until I decided that i would try out for uni and then i sat a mature age Stat test in Victoria 156 of 200 and i froze at the Math logic didnt ancer one question May have aced it but still awarded a scholarship much to my surprise More power to you freeman Delusion not all are surviving the numbers have always been predicted and well there will be plenty of room When they are all raptured !

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Helen Dodds

correct me if i have it wrong But If all the people decide there are Staute laws That can be shown to have and cause an uncesisry burben on the people they Can stop them if they do it in unity and petition the reps we have the last word Just uniting the people that see them selves each as a king then that is the most dificult task

THink they petition the GG as he is the path to royal ascent The the comity of scrutineer was designed to replace ascent to the crown all the way to our GG Lest we forget if they have incorporated our Family company they are Managers and CEO the share holders can always sack them

instilling the knowing of Birth right and that haveing a birth right gives you all the opportunity to benifit from the TRUST held by the CROWN THEY OWN NOTHING ITS all in TRUST They have no right to sell one blade of grass if the people unite and Make them listen

come work with us Freeman disillusioned ! you left Grafton heading North i suppose chasing the sun im missing that QLD sunshine I dont care what any one says its shine different up north would not blame you if thats the path you on

showing people dont make them belive They would rather chase the leprechauns treasurer a Fiction of the pot of Gold

have a break FreemanD and head this way in summer bring the family and your tents have plenty of room some plans of revoltion must be face to face !

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Freeman Delusion

Without the notion of parliament and legislative enactments we have no way to create laws governing the nation, nor method of overturning previous laws as the people see fit for their particular time.

25 million opposing opinions are not a representation of the true will of the people, hence a body was created to administrate whatever party the majority decides should run the country according to section 51 of the federal constitution.

Law must change with the times, and this cannot occur with the "unchangeable" ancient common law of England, nor a fixed constitution such as ours.

Referendum should really be the supreme law-making method, yet there is no provision for such legislative supremacy in our constitution.

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Tosgair Ammeasgmu Laurentia

Feel the same way beating a dead horse. That why I have moved on and I don't mind correcting ppl in other forums so long as I can gain a benefit from it

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Helen Dodds

is a not a wet ink petition of eligible citizens and native born not a peoples referendum ? recording in fact for and against on the presented paper ! i know that laws must change and evolve but we must strip back removing laws that do indeed cause an unnecessary burden on a freedom or a economic drain etc It is the need if aspects of this so called adgenda 21 to fail we must keep as they are for now the foundational laws The constitution as they are

not all laws are enacted to be valid for ever laws can be long or short times they I do know once enacted they are very hard to change

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Mathias Nagy

One thing I don't understand is why people care so much. Once we agree to become a citizen (or if we learn about the con but stay in the system anyway) we have given away all property rights to whatever collective we consider sovereign in exchange for protection. We can bitch all we want to but we can do nothing about any of it as a WILLING slave.

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Freeman Delusion

"It is a settled point with writers on the natural law, that all men inherit from nature a perfect liberty and independence, of which they cannot be deprived without their own consent. In a state, the individual citizens do not enjoy them fully and absolutely, because they have made a partial surrender of them to the sovereign." ~ Law of Nations

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Mathias Nagy

Exactly. I would suggest if that "partial surrender" is property rights, it might as well be considered everything.

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Chaz Le

Cognitive dissonance, man....its their ONLY argument, THEIR ONLY SALVATION, you cannot take it away

Freeman doctrine only applies to freeman

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Helen Dodds

Ps I did Science environmental management with waste control for 1 year and then changed to medical laboratory science Didn't finish deffer cause my mum died and well I found I had learned all that i needed to continue my journey. and Uni was not the truth for your diploma ! its a scam to cause a class of over educated indoctrinated pompous academic delusion leaving many that can do so intimidated they never have the courage to try

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Chaz Le Show

them this: http://cdn2.business2community.com/.../2013/06/suntzu.jpg
cdn2.business2community.com

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Chaz Le

They think they have tactics, they have neither tactics nor Strategy

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Helen Dodds

every one know their strategy its all over the net No one has a strategy that works and unless we decide to use tried and true lawful methods to stop them we are all f......... F.... them who wants to shut the f.... up and form a clear strategy that has A real chance of effecting the changes that we need!

So the incorporated Our family Business ! charge the f.......... under corprate law Ther are valid laws That outlaw Breaches of promise

Corporate laws that allow share holders and beneficiaries of TRUSTS to have their Day in Court IF THE COMPANY MANAGERS CEOS and such F.... them over seriously how come i can see how it may be attempted

we just have to unite the people get tem to signe and for or against

If the people petition the high court then they must do something cahmneg the laws by using all the laws the point of time and the point of law is first in time first in law is i t not !

Provisions were made in the foundational laws so that we can with very little stress oppereate as the almost perfect constitutional republic Am i dumb by getting that how come so many dont see this as i do I just know it in my bones as i have been seeing all this laws and rules the only book in the polititions hand book is The constitution Fracking hell they must abide by the rules they tote !

and the peolpe must unite and make the P..... tow the line we draw

F... it no body wants to be a sloger they all friggen kings and want us to kiss their soverign RINGS :

What happend to all for one one for all

Mans free will and ONE TWO many fracking choices and you just know just because the wrapping or brand is different don't mean the contents are not the same in every different box!

They all made in the same factory !

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Freeman Delusion

Not sure if you've seen this, but our courts do not recognise a Corporate Sole or a Statutory Corporation in their definition of a corporation, they are defined as an "Excempt Public Authority"...

CORPORATIONS ACT 2001 - SECT 57A
(2) Neither of the following is a corporation :
(a) an exempt public authority;
(b) a corporation sole.

"exempt public authority" means a body corporate that is incorporated within Australia or an external Territory and is:
(a) a public authority; or
(b) an instrumentality or agency of the Crown in right of the Commonwealth, in right of a State or in right of a Territory.

http://www.austlii.edu.au/.../consol_act/ca2001172/s57a.html
CORPORATIONS ACT 2001 - SECT 57A Meaning of corporation
www.austlii.edu.au
(b) any body corporate (whether incorporated in this jurisdiction or elsewhere); and

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Helen Dodds

and well just will say now Joe bejelky peterson was undouptedly a corrupt oppressive asshole but he never sold one stone of Queensland He lease and they the rich people payed the rent !

F.... that that law must cause a unnessary burden on the people who was responsible for the scrutiny of this bill ? as with no royal ascent the law nust no conflict with the foundational rights of the people

some may not realize but im sure you do The royal ascent was to in sure there was no conflicts at law of the new bills or proposed legislation in the empire and the new statute laws of the new federation

Come on what is it that we are not seeing That must conflict with the interest of the Nation and the people

Im shure there are parts in the debates that define waht it is a company will be under the constitution

to show intent and the sprit in which the laws were enacted

If a statute laws conflicts with the spirit of the intent then surly that can be valuable tactic

hell look at the mandatory sentencing in the NT saw a appeals court request by a young man that was not guilty of the crime he was jailed for twenty years no parole because he failed to stop the murder of another by two older blokes OUR laws are and have let get out of control there must be a way to stop it

the vic government remved the govenor authority and now they will set a precent in the aprlament to expel a sitting member if ya ask me they all need arresting

they are in constitutional crisis they just covering that up stop the govener from doing his lawfull job If i cant see the way in a lawfull manner wl I will be going PRIVATE

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Freeman Delusion

By proper definition a Corporate Sole such as the Crown is correctly not a "Registered Company" for the Corporations Act to apply to them. They are not a publicly listed company, they do not have shareholders, or a CEO, nor are they in substance anything like a "Registered Company"...

A comprehensive study on the unique structural differences between these entities needs to be undertaken to understand the legitimacy of this definition.

yes but if they have registered it surly they are under the jusridicion of the foundational laws contained in their hand book

I dont have the brain waves to sort this ! and exicute this comprhensive study

thank you for the proding and the maybe i might be smart enough but im if not any thing aware of my short comings

Ok i get that they must be recorded as a TRUSt

then ther must be records that define the job of the crown as you know the facts have been skewed by all these damn delusoned free men sovereigns

I have been so trying to get to see the records of the chuches as they have jurisdiction over the lands calimed thhrough tehm for the crown indeed to protect it from allthe other ivaders from The new found USA

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Freeman Delusion

Did you read my old note on the differences in corporate entities Helen..??

The links are from Wikipedia, but the references they provide are legitimate, and near identical to their definitions.

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Helen Dodds

any way it is the spirit of the laws i see and understand I come from original lore under the Madyain system and You fellas shit i cant work your laws out but I do know the old people and they that still live their lore know what they told me and How Thay said it should work cause they all vote

Yes free man i so try to read every thing of yours ever since tou revealed a truth that i knew just needed a reminder There were only capital letters in rome hahaha

I lobed in maningrida 6 weeks before Howard enforced the intervention with my car at the jabaru airport twenty in my pocket and a ful tank for my retune to Melbourne after i saw The cahnges he was effecting in legislation only short weeks before the election I told them it was coming But was at a loss bar for them to use 116 of the constitution cause lore is there untill it has been written as it is being written in the NT into legislation that is in fact federal as THE NT is NOT yet a stae

If making as many as two thousand laws during one sitting then surly these wankers are not doing as the should be using thier positions over and above the power they have

sorry Free man your truth must to my reckoning be respected by all that have taken the time to look at your part of that journey we have all been on

Your truth has has a positve affet on me thats for sure knw that you have saved one person from the black hle viod

The ausy constitutional barrister Jeffery Robinson once said " the problem for the Aborigines to assert their sovereignty they Must come forward " and the johnny no concept always will tell you in aboriginal culture there are no kings or queens chiefs or hyrachy no pecking order How wrong they are ! why would these dear people comforward when their should be could be peoples of born of this land insist they never existed

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Freeman Delusion

I was in Katherine when the intervention began, might have bumped into you lol. The first day the kids and I walked with total strangers in the protest march, and risked arrest by buying and handing out two cartons of beer to the mob lol

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Helen Dodds

A great travisty was done when the DOCUMENT CHANGED removing the words and sections It utill that is realized will be the last NAIL in our first nations peoples coffin that i will die trying to change

Na i was the bue flash you only thought you saw the gost in the shadows

hehehe good on you our paths have been close I have no doupt about that

Have you read my post on madyin law this is all from the old lore people hehehe dont bther explaining we are focused and doing what we must when we must all up to the sacred cahmber of lore and they are ghost so we can only trust and listen

haha sorry if i ignored you mate i am when up that way on a mission

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Helen Dodds

I post noting with out their say so it is the way i must operate

You do realize that arnham lad mob were not invaded by one mr tindal untill 1921 and by 1962 they were signing treatys withthe help of the missonarys with the government and the crown under the watchfull eyes of the bishops ?

that was waht only 90 yeras ago you know we had an old man he was 116 when he died no one gave a shit about him and how long he lived always said he might live for ever as he was waiting to see this Jesus that would save him

and he gave up when his family came from the other side and begged him to join them not because the So called messiah came and got him you can be sure of that yea both he and my big Brother saw it all and as I am their witness they want ONE NATION ONE LAW ! in unity not factions

when the intervention came in My son Daryl was in the Army and they recuted Nor force all to turn on their own people our own people I tell ya what if I was Really mad They would be talking about me for ever just like Mallatt

thyed be dropping like flys if i had the power for that

hehehe I so prayed that a lightning bolt would come form the sky and blow Howard right out of our world ! There so must be something we can do to STOP THIS HOSTILE CORPORATE TAKEOVER !

sorry you know its like every one assuming that Captain cook broke his orders and the laws of the sea ? the king told cook that he should if the land was unoccupyed he should take it for the king In his jourmals of his own hand he expressed there were in habitants and they made it clear to him he was not welcome ! then he was allowed to take water and have a sticky beak he got on his ship and went like mad up the east coast till he hit the rocks now he went to possession island which is and would be classed as Terra Nulius because it is with out water and in habitants He poked the flag in and by Mariners law and the so called by the orders of the king CLAIMED A FRACKING PORT NOT THE WHOLE CONTINENT OF AUSTRALIA any way you see where im going cook NEVER RETURNED his crew were home sick and poxinfected and he placed a port on possession island twelve miles circumphence around the flagg cant you see the bull shit in how history was assumed and re written its clear to me How our first nations Soverenty can be asserted by the laws they fracking tote

bet if you asked a hundred ozzies they would say possession island is in botony bay !

not on what is the northern border of OUR CONTINENTAL PLATE

lol sorry fellars bet you all switched out some time ago

even them ozzies that think they know the law and the history of this land

look my point either way the law was broken the paper trail must show us who and when these crimes took place and they must be delth with before our system will be changed or needs to be changed. be very suprised if there was no church humble watch dog on such important voyages

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Uden Efternavn Michael

Freeman Delusion:You say "...freeman ideology is little more than a faith-based belief system, not unlike a religious persuasion, and in no way an established legal doctrine".

Do you mean that 'established legal doctrine' is *not* based on belief?

What I'm getting at is this: legality, statutes, representative government etc. is *also* a belief system - based on the belief that majority rule is fair and ok. You probably guessed that I don't support this as either fair or ok. Your thoughts?

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Earthica-Star Soveran

what solution do you offer?

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Helen Dodds

law is all taken from LORES myths and such from different cultures laws are all forms of belief thats a true Staemen Uden Efternavn Michael

i dont think that is being sisputed laws are over which jurisdicton are they common laws are the corporate laws are they foundational laws and which land and which people do they have jurisdiction over

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Earthica-Star Soveran

are you askin me or FMD

im asking anyone who offers solutions to speak about them

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Helen Dodds

I can only offer an idea I see that unless we as native born or citizens by oath if we don't in unity back the first nations people to assert the first nations lores as the sovereigns laws first laws of this land if we don't unite and make them the kings in the spirit of our laws we are all wasting the time of our lives. as the laws in the constition are our foudational laws we must relize the spirt to which they were made it is as i see it a total waste of time going to an international court or the UN as their laws have No jurisdiction they have no stick to make any one abide by their findings

the first step is to tell the first nations people we will back them and then they back us back by recognizing or comon law soverenty enshrined in our foundational laws

and i mean tell them on mass There is a petition that has been started.

http://www.change.org/petitions/the-sovereign-peoples-living-on-country-...

The sovereign peoples living on country Living lore: I want to show the lore keepers they have...

““Until we give back to the first nations people just a bit of the land that was his, without strings to snatch it back, without anything but complete... ...

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Helen Dodds

original lore is so much more that a spear in the thigh! and in my eyes far more lawful in a natural way than any law that has been written and forced upon them

they see our laws as burdenous and quite lawless

makes out casts of people

a through read of the constitutional debates they are long but i start at the last and read backwards to the first and well I was surprized to these days these men were quite free man knowing

looking through these documents clearly shows the spirit in the laws and how they came to be you know if you dont take in the wole picture can only see half a truth is qite simply a whole lie !

here is an except from a paper written from original lore now its written we can write some laws far be it from me to ask you to back a law a sovereign lore of the first nations people that may well be a fairytale with out giving you the information you need about original laws to make your own mind up so here is an except and you are welcome to friend me to see other most interesting facts on original lores any way te choice is yours if your interested in helping us form a strategy to some workable solution we do need every one.

Madayin Law System; The Assent law of the Yolŋu of Arnhem Land
By Richard Trudgen
Posted in: Legal systems

This is the paper from Dr Djiniyini Gondarra’s presentation to the The Law and Justice within Indigenous Communities conference in Darwin, NT, Feb 2011.

The Assent law of the first people:
Principles of an effective legal system in Aboriginal communities

Dr Djiniyini Gondarra OAM & Richard Trudgen 22 Feb 2011

The theme of this conference is “Law and Justice within Indigenous Communities”. BUT for there to be a real rule of law and true justice for our people, then the Law our people have assented to for thousands of years must be understood and recognised by all Australians. This will require an education and negotiation process between the Australian government and our Traditional Parliaments.

This morning I want to start that education by talking about our law that Yolŋu[1] people from north-east Arnhem Land have assented to for many generations.

First we must remember that in different regions across Australia other groups of first Australians (Aboriginal people) have their own law and I have no right to talk about their Law systems.

Having said that, I must say that all the first Australian peoples have a common foundation of Law. This common foundation of Law still exists even where some of these peoples may have lost many elements of their particular Law. Even where they have lost most of the elements of their Law they still have a common foundation of law together with us and all other first Australians. It is the common law of this land that precedes all laws and systems of law. It does not matter how hard others try to deny and suppress this fact, we still have a common foundation of Law that has been practiced in this land since the beginning of human history.

However all of my comments this morning will refer to the traditional Law of the Yolŋu people from north-east Arnhem Land of which I am first, a citizen, and second a political leader.

I am a citizen because like all Yolŋu people I have assented to our Law through a ceremonial process called Waṉa Lupthun. And although we have been telling the NT and Australian Governments this for many years, still no one seems to want to understand or recognise that we are citizens of our own Clans and Nation States; it’s like we are a non people and no one can hear us or have serious dialogue and diplomatic relationships with us.

Strangely though, although we have assented to our own Law we have never assented to the Law of the Federation of Australian or any of its States or Territories: what we call “Balanda Law”. Some of us know that this new Australian Law does try to protect and nurture us but we still find it very strange, unfamiliar and very confusing – and it continues to offend us by opposing, harming and destroying us and our rights established under the Original Law of this land.

Let’s hope one day that things will change and we will be respected as a real sovereign people. Then other Australians will sit down and talk to us about some real solutions to the problems we face. This would begin a new era of hope and prosperity where a true rule of Law existed, offering law and justice on an equal footing to all the people of this land. Then we would start to solve some of the very difficult problems we face and change the very uncertain, dismal and sometimes frightening future that many of our people face.

The Madayin

Let me start by explaining the Yolŋu system of Law (Rom) that is called the Madayin [ma – d[2]ay – in]. I think it is very hard to translate this term Madayin into English as English does not seem to have a word like Madayin. The closest picture I can give you is like when we say, “The Westminster system of law”, we are talking about all the laws and legal processes and practices that come from the Westminster origins. In many ways the Madayin can be used in the same way as the “Westminster system of law” as the Madayin is the name for our complete system of Law.

When we think about the Madayin we think about all our law that relates to our rights from personal, property, our corporate clan rights through to the highest rights we have as citizens of our Riŋgitj Nation States.

The Madayin also covers our legal institutions like our parliaments, legal teaching places and processes for dispute resolution, which most English speakers call “ceremonies”. We call these places “Madayin places” and like most legal places they all are restricted in one way or another.

The Madayin also controls and determines the process we carry out at these Madayin places and how we interact with each other legally. These processes are called by their different names but can also be called Madayin dhukarr mala or Madayin processes. That is, if a new agreement needs to be made there are Madayin ways as to how we should talk, come together and how we should interact in these meetings to come to consensus decisions. In times of dispute we have Madayin processes that instruct us about how we move towards dispute resolution. All of our life processes from how to harvest and prepare our foods through to birthing [women’s domain], healing and health care, social, economic, dispute management, environmental care, living, interacting and even how to die, have Madayin processes that we should follow.

The Madayin also has all our constitutional Law and all our wäyuk laws statutes covering criminal, corporate, resource sharing, religious Laws and sanctions that apply to the breaking of these laws.[3]

So the Madayin is an all encompassing system of law.

A. Illustrating Aboriginal Customary Law as a rule of law, not rule of men
Madayin’s Origin

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Helen Dodds

the full paper is available on the net but i have cross referenced the acruicy of all my stuff from the first nations people and i was born to lore.

you wish and well you asked a simple question to a compex issue

and if free man delusion asked me to do that i would and i hope if i was shitting him he would

yes free man you know i get it you know like it was such a shock when marbo decisions wer mate contary to established precedent

was ther some thing i shared re how precednts in the courts dtoday arebeing disregarded

any way all shit to me my focus is on helping the first nations people assert their soverenty in the manner thats affords unity

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Uden Efternavn

Michael I like to try to get at the root of any discussion about Law and/or 'laws' by starting with the rights of the individual. We really need to have some kind of shared starting point - maybe we can agree on something like, eg. 'no-one can rightfully be forced to comply with the demands of another individual'.

Can we find something we agree on?

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Helen Dodds

we can only agre on the laws as they are and in which spirit they were formed if you dont know the ducks bum concering the documents that formed our foundational laws we cant agee on anything that is real and unless you understand that your wasting your time

with your tryed insults

hahaha the last time any one told some one to stop talking will they ever shut up in time the whole fracking nation think that blokes a dick head

There are only lores cultural rules from oral traditions story fairy tals that make the rules be known to the common mans mind and sole and then some one writes them and they become laws

so they can be enfoced on mass

Better think about who is forcing whose laws on who before you say that are you telling me that original first nations people are lawless they don in their law protect the individual and like it or NOT we are only equil as to the Natural laws what goes up must come down and if you jump of the cliff you will probably die ! man made laws are not for the peole that they must suufer the shit they force on us

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Helen Dodds

Fracking hell first in time first in law The Austarlian aboriginie is way in front of the whole of humanity if thats the laws they tote

why dont you all just ceed to that FACT and then we can all go on with our own business !

stop trying to tell themthey walked from africa dont be shocked any first nations person of law will tell ya they had yellow bulla here before them and the mungo mans bones prove that to be true you know the africans invaded this continent ! its in the painting the record of war in WA

the egyptions stole our bommarangs not all incidently are designed to fly

Kink solomon took their gold their gemms there is definatly a real need for some fracking truth in the history of how its been written in hind site

and the bull shit people belive was refenced to truth and experience its a joke realy

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Freeman Delusion

Uden, The use of freeman theories as a legal exception or objection to the validity of legislation is what I'm refering to.

These theories hold no legal merit, there is no precedent case law that even suggests it does, so the belief in such theories is obviously a faith-based belief system, being without any evidence or substantuation. This is a fitting description...

"OPCA litigants appear, engage in a court drama that is more akin to a magic spell ritual than an actual legal proceeding, and wait to see if the court is entranced and compliant. If not, the litigant returns home to scrutinize at what point the wrong incantation was uttered, an incorrectly prepared artifact waved or submitted." (Meads v's Meads)

On the other hand, the courts obligation to abide by many well-established legal principles and doctrines, which are recorded as precedent or "common law" rulings that the court is bound to uphold, are not something that the court has "faith" in it's applicability, it is a legal certainty, an established and observable fact, a fundamental feature of the judicial structure.

For a court to ignore these principles and rule in any individuals favour definately would be unlawful, and also illegal.

The notion of the supremacy of parliament, is indeed an established doctrine of the common law, and this fact is recorded in over 300 years of case law and precedents the court is bound to uphold.

The law-making supremacy of parliament is not something that relies on faith in it's existence, it's existence is well established and manditory.

The implication that common law somehow overrules legislation is not true at all.

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Freeman Delusion

"The law of the land depends not upon the arbitrary will of any judge; but is permanent, fixed, and unchangeable, unless by authority of parliament.... Not only the substantial part, or judicial decisions, of the law, but also the formal part, or method of proceeding, cannot be altered but by parliament." ~ William Blackstone (1760 U.K.)

The phrase "Law of the land" is a legal term, equivalent to the Latin lex terrae (or legem terrae in the accusative case). It refers to all of the laws in force within a country or region, including both statute law and common law.

"The designation of general public laws that are equally binding on all members of the community." ~ West's Encyclopedia of American Law, edition 2.

English jurists, writing of legem terrae in reference to the Magna Carta, stated that this term embraces all laws that are in force for the time being within a jurisdiction. For example, Edward Coke, commenting upon Magna Carta, wrote in 1606...

"No man be taken or imprisoned but per legem terrae, that is, by the common law, statute law, or custom of England."

Likewise, Justice Powys of the King's Bench wrote in 1704...

"Lex terrae is not confined to the common law, but takes in all the other laws, which are in force in this realm; as the civil and canon law...."

British Chief Justice John Fineux stated in 1519 that...

"The Law of God and the Law of the Land are all one, in the sense that they both protect the public good."

British Chief Justice John Vaughan further explained in 1677 that whenever the law of the land declares by a legislative act what divine law is, then the courts must consider that legislation to be correct.

Parliamentary sovereignty (also called parliamentary supremacy or legislative supremacy) is a concept in the constitutional law of some parliamentary democracies. It holds that the legislative body has absolute sovereignty, and is supreme over all other government institutions, including executive or judicial bodies. The concept also holds that the legislative body may change or repeal any previous legislation, and so that it is not bound by written law (in some cases, even a constitution) or by precedent.

In the 19th century, A.V. Dicey, a highly influential constitutional scholar and lawyer, wrote of the twin pillars of the British constitution in his classic work An Introduction to the Study of the Law of the Constitution (1885). These pillars are the principle of Parliamentary sovereignty and the rule of law. The former means that Parliament is the supreme law-making body: its Acts are the highest source of English Law.

Magistrates Willes J: "Are we to act as regents over what is done in Parliament with the consent of the Queen, Lords and commons? I deny that any such authority exists. If an Act of Parliament has been obtained improperly, it is for the legislature to correct it by repealing it: but, so long as it exists as law, the courts are bound to obey it." ~ Lee v Bude & Torrington Junction Rly Co (1871-U.K.)

"In the British tradition, sovereignty used to reside with the King or Queen as God’s representative on earth, or at least in England. Thus the power of the King or Queen - also called the sovereign – was originally absolute. The sovereign could do whatever he or she wanted, and it was the law that whatever he or she did could never be wrong.

Over time this changed. Beginning with Magna Carta in 1215 it was recognised that parliament also had some sovereign rights, that the making of future laws required the approval of parliament and that ordinary people had legal rights that the sovereign could not take away, without parliament’s approval.

Following this tradition, in Australia we now say that sovereignty resides with parliament, and the people elect the members of the various Australian parliaments."

Northern Territory Law Reform Committee: Background Paper 2

"Now there is only one legal system in Australia, and only one "law" and that is Australian law. Under the Australian legal system there are two types or sources of law: laws made by parliament (legislation) and laws made the courts (common law)."

Judges Ashley, Neave and Redlich, Melbourne Supreme Court, 11th March 2010.

http://www.unistudyguides.com/wiki/Dicey,_Parliamentary_Sovereignty_and_...

http://www.firstpoint.thomson.com.au/a24/resultDetailed.jsp;jsessionid=0...

http://www.unistudyguides.com/index.php?title=Union_Steamship_Co_of_Aust...

According to Merriam-Webster Dictionary a term ‘sovereign’ refers to a person “that exercises supreme authority within a limited sphere”. Originally this term denoted a monarch or a ruler. However, the meaning of ‘sovereign’ evolved in the Age of Enlightenment, when philosophers like Thomas Hobbes, John Locke, and Jean-Jacques Rousseau elaborated the ‘social contract’ theory. According to this theory the people were considered to be the legitimate sovereign, but they contracted their sovereignty to a ruler in return for his maintaining their safety. Hence, if the ruler failed to do this, the people were released from their obligation to obey him.

According to the Penguin Dictionary of Politics (Robertson, 1986: 305) ‘sovereignty’: “means the right to own and control some area of the world. It has nowadays nothing to do with monarchy. Its basic meaning is legitimate rule, as opposed to actual power.”

In democracies the understanding of the sovereignty is often connected with the rule of the people, thus one can talk about the sovereignty of the people. Although these two terms defined in that way are quite easy to understand, problems arise when an institution is designated as a sovereign instead of an individual or the people.

Probably the first person who described the sovereignty of Parliament as one of the fundamental features of the constitution of the UK was a British constitutional lawyer Albert Venn Dicey. In his book, An Introduction to the Study of the Law of the Constitution, Dicey (1959: 40) explains that the principle of parliamentary sovereignty means that Parliament has: “the right to make or unmake any law whatever; and, further, that no person or body is recognized by the law of England as having a right to override or set aside the legislation of Parliament."

It is essential to mention here about another famous British constitutional lawyer – Sir Ivor Jennings and his thoughts. He agreed with Dicey that the Parliament can enact legislation dealing with any subject, and that the legislation of the Parliament is superior to the jurisdiction of the courts. However, Jennings claimed also that the supremacy of the Parliament exists only in theory, because it “is a legal fiction and legal fiction can assume anything”. To prove this he gave a famous example that:

"If Parliament enacted that all men should be women, they would be women so far as the law is concerned”

http://www.globalpolitics.cz/zamereno-na-eu/the-doctrine-of-parliamentar...

"The idea that a court is entitled to disregard a provision in an Act of Parliament on any ground must seem strange and startling to anyone with any knowledge of the history and law of our constitution." ~ Pickin v British Railways Board (1974 -U.K.) HL

Magistrate Thomas J. said... "If the purpose for which a statute may be used is an invalid purpose, then such remedy as there may be must be directed to dealing with that purpose and not to invalidating the statute itself. What the statute itself enacts cannot be unlawful, because what the statute says and provides is itself the law, and the highest from of law that is known to this country. It is the law which prevails over every other form of law, and it is not for the court to say that a parliamentary enactment, the highest law in this country, is illegal." ~ Cheney v Conn [Inspector of Taxes] (1968 -U.K.) Chancery Division

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Freeman Delusion

"There is little point in searching for additional expositions of, or foundations for, the principle that courts will presume that legislation does not overrule the common law in the absence of clear and express terms, given that it is so clear and that it was not really contested by the State. In English legal history the principle can be traced back for at least 300 years and probably further. It has been applied countless times in Australia, including in the construction of legislation governing privately owned minerals and the public acquisition thereof.

Secondly, the applicant invoked Sir Owen Dixon's reminder that the principle of parliamentary supremacy is itself a doctrine of the common law.

Members of a legislature, such as the Parliament of New South Wales, are regularly answerable to the electors, whereas judges in Australia are not. Judges recognise that, whatever the deficiencies of electoral democracy, the necessity of answering to the electorate at regular intervals has a tendency to curb legislative excesses. Many judges reject "the role of a Platonic guardian" and are "pleased to live in a society that does not thrust [that role] upon [them]". Most judges in Australia would probably share this relatively modest conception of their role. In this conception, the duty of obedience to a law made by a Parliament of a State derives from the observance of parliamentary procedures and the conformity of the resulting law with the State and federal Constitutions. It does not rest upon judicial pronouncements to accord, or withhold, recognition of the law in question by reference to the judge's own notions of fundamental rights, apart from those constitutionally established."

Durham Holdings Pty Ltd v New South Wales (1999) 47 NSWLR 340

"However, any presumption, rule of construction, or imputed intention is subject to valid legislative provisions to the contrary. Judges may decline to read such legislation as having such an effect. The more peremptory, arbitrary and unjust the provisions, the less willing a judge may be to impute such a purpose to an Australian lawmaker. But a point will be reached where the law in question is "clear and unambiguous". Various other verbal formulae are used in the reasoning of this Court to describe that point. They are collected by the Court of Appeal in its reasons. Once that point is reached, subject to any constitutional invalidity, the judge has no authority to ignore or frustrate the commands of the lawmaker. To do so would be to abuse judicial power, not to exercise it.

The applicant was unable to point to any judicial pronouncements, let alone a decided case, which indicated, at any time, that any such principle existed in the common law of England, or of the colonies of Australasia, or of Australia. It advocated the development of the common law, by the recognition of such a principle for the first time in this case." ~ Union Steamship Co of Australia Pty Ltd v King (1988) 166 CLR 1

http://www.firstpoint.thomson.com.au/a24/resultDetailed.jsp;jsessionid=0...

http://www.unistudyguides.com/.../Union_Steamship_Co_of...

Thomson Reuters
www.firstpoint.thomson.com.au

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Helen Dodds

are these rights enshrined as in part of our constitution in the hapious (?) corpus. and the acts interpretation act .

are they not FMD

our conection to common law and the act that heps us understand their language

and the laws they wrote

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Freeman Delusion

Yes Helen, the legislative powers of parliaments are detailed in the federal and state constitutions.

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Freeman Delusion

COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA CONSTITUTION ACT - SECT 109 - Inconsistency of laws

"When a law of a State is inconsistent with a law of the Commonwealth, the latter shall prevail, and the former shall, to the extent of the inconsistency, be invalid."

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/coaca430/s109.html

The term "Law of the Commonwealth" is legislation enpowered under section 51 of the Commonwealth Constitution Act 1901 enacted in the federal parliament.

The term "Law of a State" (as applicable to NSW) is legislation enpowered by section 5 of the NSW Constitution Act 1902 enacted in the NSW parliament.

Both are "legislation", or "statute law", and both are likewise constitutionally founded and therefore "lawfully" enacted.

As Section 51 and other provisions of the constitution prescribe only limited legislative powers to the Commonwealth, Australian states have considerably broad legislative powers.

NEW SOUTH WALES CONSTITUTION ACT 1902 - SECT 5 - General legislative powers

"The Legislature shall, subject to the provisions of the Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act, have power to make laws for the peace, welfare, and good government of New South Wales in all cases whatsoever."

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/ca1902188/s5.html

The legislative powers of the Commonwealth on the other hand, are limited to a mere 39 catagories, in section 51 of the federal constitution...

COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA CONSTITUTION ACT - SECT 51 - Legislative powers of the Parliament

"The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws for the peace, order, and good government of the Commonwealth with respect to..."

www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/coaca430/s51.html

COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA CONSTITUTION ACT - SECT 118 - Recognition of laws etc. of States

"Full faith and credit shall be given, throughout the Commonwealth to the laws, the public Acts and records, and the judicial proceedings of every State."

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/coaca430/s118.html

This means that the Commonwealth must give full faith and credit to the legislative processes of the states...

COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA CONSTITUTION ACT - SECT 106 - Saving of state constitutions

"The Constitution of each State of the Commonwealth shall, subject to this Constitution, continue as at the establishment of the Commonwealth, or as at the admission or establishment of the State, as the case may be, until altered in accordance with the Constitution of the State."

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/coaca430/s106.html

This means that the existing laws of a state cannot even be altered by the federal body, but only by the provisions of that particular state.

COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA CONSTITUTION ACT - SECT 107 - Saving of Power of State Parliaments

"Every power of the Parliament of a Colony which has become or becomes a State, shall, unless it is by this Constitution exclusively vested in the Parliament of the Commonwealth or withdrawn from the Parliament of the State, continue as at the establishment of the Commonwealth, or as at the admission or establishment of the State, as the case may be."

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/coaca430/s107.html

This means that the legislative powers of a state cannot be diminished by the federal body, but only by the provisions of that particular state.

COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA CONSTITUTION ACT - SECT 108 - Saving of State laws

"Every law in force in a Colony which has become or becomes a State, and relating to any matter within the powers of the Parliament of the Commonwealth, shall, subject to this Constitution, continue in force in the State; and, until provision is made in that behalf by the Parliament of the Commonwealth, the Parliament of the State shall have such powers of alteration and of repeal in respect of any such law as the Parliament of the Colony had until the Colony became a State."

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/coaca430/s107.html

This means that the existing laws of a state cannot even be altered by the federal body, but only by the provisions of that particular state.

COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA CONSTITUTION ACT - SECT 109 Inconsistency of laws
www.austlii.edu.au

When a law of a State is inconsistent with a law of the Commonwealth, the latter shall prevail, and the former shall, to the extent of the inconsistency, be invalid.

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Helen Dodds

you mean like in the Victorian constitution if the monarch should be removed business was to be conducted as usual as it had never taken place ?

like the 1975 vic constitution could not over turn laws made in UK and set in ours in Australia ?

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Uden Efternavn Michael

Thanks Freeman Delusion I see I have some reading ahead of me. You've done some good research, so I'm gonna have to spend some time going through it. Good thing I've got the day off!

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Helen Dodds

like the two acts attached to the document in 1856 inspired by the eureka rebellion ?

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Arthur Cristian

Its ALL a fairytale Helen. Your direct experience with nature, with no 3rd party in and of 3rd party storytelling getting in-between you and nature, is where your/our true power resides. Watch out for the "illuminated light" of spelling letters and words because they will put you under the "spell" that has you be Dorothy going down the Yellow Brick Road or Alice in Wonderland through the Looking Glass, TRAPPED in "The System" of a con-structed fairytale made out of letters and words (incantations) with no way out. Forget their words, their letters, their books, their his-story/her-story, their laws, their this and that as it is all BULLSHIT.

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Helen Dodds

hahahah I know what a min min lite looks like and that's all i need to know hahaha thanks any way I'm well know to be off with the pixies haha that is where i choose to be and well that is not any ones concern of anyone but me only time will tell F.... THE ILLUMINATI I have no fear of them and their ways ! GET ME I DARE THEM

Helen Dodds hahaha why would they bother i know nothing you think that my truth is a threat to them hahahha F... THEM

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Arthur Cristian

Good on you

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Helen Dodds

best they dont ever underestimate me But Just saying

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Helen Dodds

Arthur Cristian fairdinkum mate JUST thum your nose at them the wole lot fear mongers and terrorists

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Helen Dodds

I'm on to them thanks for your warning I was programed by the masters The first nations people of lore and about that i never jest and in time they will prove that !

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Freeman Delusion

Denial of legal reality and ignorance of the law is not a solution Arthur, and neither is it a valid defence of charges resulting from that ignorance. Anti-interlectualism is a cop-out. If you want to impact real change, you must at least try to understand the system legitimately, to understand the beast you are trying to rein in.

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Helen Dodds

hahaha you see read some of my poems inspired by the sprit of lore

yes free man that is so true what did pablo say some thing know the laws like a scolar and break them like an artist

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Arthur Cristian

The point is to focus/place ALL our life-energy co-creating (with) nature and the more of us who come-together to do this, the less we have to deal with "The System" but this means being free of self-centeredness as this is the pull of e-motion that binds us to "The System".

The E-go is the "name" of trauma and is the demon/phantom that hoods us with letters and words.

E = ecclesiastical.

E-go & E-motion are the letters and words that form the reaction to trauma that are the spells of "The System". They are the unnatural programs instilled into us, instructing us how to perform the "name" we "claim" in and of "The System" of third parties.

It is not enough to just think we are on our way out of this man-made hell that is "The System" because the e-motion/e-go, if not confronted and healed, will continue to keep us divided and ruled.

These 3rd party storytellers (Freemasons/Satanists) use trauma derived from ritual sacrifices (babies, children, teenagers, adults, animals) to energise their letters and words to form the drones, robots, slaves "instructional" (E) IMAGE POWER containing/embodying the programmed trauma which has interceded between MAN and nature/earth and between MAN and MAN and is the divide in each of us that they use to rule us over with.

This divide IS the e-go, is the pull of e-motion and is "NAME". The "name" is the mark of the beast that is the abomination of trauma and reactions to trauma. The "name" forms the rules of the divide = in-divide-u-all-s (individuals).

Through horrific black-magic that is the deeply traumatised fairytales encoded in fantasy, illusion and delusion, the "illuminated" letters and words, we have all been brilliantly deceived into pulling away from the wholeness of MANS consciousness that is the dream of life.

You completely destroy their "world", their "laws", their "power", their "hold" by forcing/making them process the curses of their "own" making without doubt or uncertainty, etc. The ground of this is covered in the Sequential Order of Love For Life videos, articles, debates, etc.

Also, refer to the Mountain Man post 6th May 2014 on Arthur's FB wall: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203651756842542 and scroll up (and down) from there to explore many other posts relating to this subject.

The latest article/debate contains the Sequential Order

Routing Out Psyop Programs
Routs Out Intel Operatives
Exposing Max Igan's Psyop Program

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 31st May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8524

Coming together selflessly to co-create nature we are now the wind under each others wings raising each other up and out of "The System" of HELL.

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Helen Dodds

yep you focus your energy where you want it to be and ill focus mine where i want it to be great info thanks for that Arthur Cristian Are you a Christian ?

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Arthur Cristian

Coming together selflessly to co-create nature we are now the wind under each others wings raising each other up and out of "The System" of HELL. Christianity is a fairytale

It is critical that we each recognise reactions to trauma in all its nefarious forms and withdraw peacefully from giving these e-motions power to the e-go ("name").

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Helen Dodds

oh well thanks for that truth ! the ability to come together is a selfish act a need for something for your self hehehe iv blabbed on enough today but there is method in my reasoning good night Arthur Cristian its been excellent chatting and talking at the wall that is FB love harmony look after number one and mind your own business I was taught by a very humble most generous man that if tis is the way your lfe is run everything else falls in to place may your life be as balanced as you wish it to be !

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Helen Dodds

Ps I also think that christianity is a farytail hehehe good on ya

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Arthur Cristian

There is an essential transition required here and now which requires all of us coming together to help each other completely withdraw from "The System" and back to NO SYSTEM (no man-made system).

The goal is to set us all free from being under each other forevermore which we can't do while all around us are trapped in "The System".

The correct intention for WHOLENESS is to create freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, do no harm, no loss of uniqueness/originality, no slaves and rulers for everyone and everything all-around us because when others around us have freedom, truth........ etc, then we have it too.

Thinking for "self" ("name") is a mis-con-ception.

If all-around us are trapped in "The System" then we reside in the midst of HELL.

Is a Christian Patriot truly free when he/she/they are armed to their teeth barricaded behind walls in readiness for anyone wanting to come over the walls to get at their food, land, etc, ?????

MAN was never meant to "own" anything - if we "owned" (not let go) our last breath, drink, meal, we will die. The same fallen "state" occurs when we "claim"/"own" land. All this is trauma based, all done in "name".

"NAME" is an abomination.

We do not need "name".

Do we have to jump ten feet across a room to grab our next breath? Of course not, we've already got it all-around us. Everything of truth is like this. We already have EVERYTHING we need and so much more if we surrender "name" and everything of "name". The whole of "The System" is a "name" within millions and millions of "names". Each letter is a "name". Each number is a "name". The WHOLE of "The System" is constructed out of "name". The supermarket is FULL of names", the suburbs, the media, the laws, the religions, the holy books, etc, etc, ALL OF IT "ILLUMINATED LIGHT". This is all explained in great detail in the Love For Life articles, videos, debates, etc....

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Arthur Cristian

E-go "spell" is the worst of the lot....... AGREED - How many babies, children, teenagers, adults, animals have they ritually sacrificed and continue sacrificing (probably in great numbers every week across Earth) to cast the trauma of their "spells over all infected by e-go????

The intention of these sacrifices being to feed the grid, the matrix of letters & words that forms and sustains "The System" of NAMES. These Satanists/Freemasons work very hard to keep everyone paralysed (divided) and therefore trapped in "The System". They are doing everything they can to stop us leaving their hell.

All the e-motion/reaction to trauma we experience is derived from all these horrific ritual-sacrifices and its all done through the water of our (MANS) breath.

The ritualised trauma of the murdered children, babies, adults, etc. is the glue they use to keep us trapped and (e)nslaved to "name", to the beast that is hell.

Give up "name" and we give up reacting to their trauma (ritual sacrifices) too.

Every letter was born out of ritual sacrifice, every word was crafted out of ritual sacrifice too.

THIS IS WHY WE (NAMES") WERE ALL BORN IN ORIGINAL SIN, the original sin being the sacrifice of MANS babies, children, adults, etc.....

The pull of e-motion (reaction to trauma) we experience IS the blatant effects (experiences) of our brothers/sisters being ritually sacrificed (horrifically murdered). NOWHERE ELSE DOES THIS TRAUMA COME FROM. These e-motions are set into motion in the water of MANS (our) breath to effect us all with. This is the ONLY reason why they do this. We are all connected through the water of our breath which is MANS living consciousness. How we think, feel and act effects at least another MAN somewhere across Earth. We are all at the effect of each other.

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Arthur Cristian

The "Illuminated Light" IS the ritual sacrifice of our brothers and sisters. The "Illuminated Light" is the capture of the souls of our brothers and sisters and used for the effects of trauma (reactions to trauma - the pull of e-motions) upon all of us. Conscious or not, this "illuminated light" is what Intel Operatives are trained to use - they are trained to manipulate us through reactions to trauma ("illuminated light - murdered souls). Max Igan does this as is Kate Of Gaia, David Icke, Mark Passio, Santos Bonacci, Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, Benjamin Fulford, Michael Tsarion, David Wilcox, George Green, Peter Joseph, Mark Darwin, Mark Pytellek, Mark McMurtrie, etc, etc, etc, etc.... casts of thousands of Intel Operatives spread out across Earth. They all work with the sacrifices of our brothers and sisters to manipulate us. THIS IS FACT. For an example, observe how Max Igan was performing these trauma based rituals in this thread here:

Routing Out Psyop Programs
Routs Out Intel Operatives
Exposing Max Igan's Psyop Program

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 31st May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8524

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Arthur Cristian

Capturing the soul (water/MANS-consciousness) is what all these Satanic Ritual sacrifices are all about. They use these deeply traumatised souls ("illuminated Light") to perform all the nefarious tasks Satanists dream for (intend) - they live for the outcomes of the effects of trauma they set into motion. NOTHING ELSE IS GOING ON - When you watch these videos just remember that producing trauma is what is required to control all of MAN lost to the letters and words of "The System" of "name" - These black-magic priests are creating "names" with every song they sing during ritual sacrifices.

Code O2T Torture: Lifting Out the Soul for a Satanic Ritual in a Sacrifice to a Pharaonic Deity
OCTOGON SWITZERLAND OF THE TEMPLARS: THE BASE OF ALL EVIL
http://youtu.be/jNsx_iZGTqs

Satanic Ritual Child Sacrifices Exposed
The intricate web of life that is nature, & all that we see, which binds us all in wholeness can only be severed by fantasy, illusion, delusion, fear & trauma. Satanism is this conditioning "practice" of separation enforced. To maintain a "state" of separation between us the Satanists "craft" belief systems & put in "practice" a "System" for us to perpetuate it. All occults, esoterics, science, New Age, "Oneness", race, culture, creed, education, commerce, etc, the basis of all fantasy, illusion & delusion that ever appeared, existed/exist ONLY to maintain MANS separation (fallen "state"). Satanism is found all across Earth. All involved in the fall were once innocent babies. This is not a "Jewish" problem, instead it is MANS problem. Ritual Sacrifice started in Ancient Egypt & spread from there & is endemic today. Satanists perform all kinds of rituals to instill a wedge between us so that we can't come together in wholeness again. Keeping us individualised (in-divide-u-all-ised) permits Satanists to rule over all of us, hence their manufactured, races, cultures, religions & "systems", as documented across their recorded ages, with remote Gods, Deities, Beings, Heavens, Hells, etc. Using them as shields, Satanists hide behind all races, cultures, creeds & systems to use MAN (us).
To continue please go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8232
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jTdc04ODU4

Dr Sean Hross YouTube channel
provides lots of background to Satanism - just remember EVERYTHING you see to do with Satanism/Freemasonry is for "illuminated Light" - without it, they have NO power over MAN.
https://www.youtube.com/user/giureh

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Chaz Le

my goodness me, fix your own backyard first

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Arthur Cristian

Are you an expert in "fixing your "own" backyard"? Can we please site your "fix your own backyard first" authorised certificate. Can you also please provide us with the fixed physical address location where many of us can come and witness the results of your "fixing your own backyard first" = assuming you are implying something like paradise as a clear distinction to "The System"?

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Chaz Le

Expert or not, thats what you do....

https://www.facebook.com/JudicialApartheid?ref=bookmarks
Genocide & Crimes against Humanity, inc Crime of Judicial Apartheid
Come help us assert the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court and Universal Declaration on Human Rights at the Human Rights Council

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Arthur Cristian

Now you are changing the subject - why are you avoiding answering the questions raised with you. What has "Genocide & Crimes against Humanity, inc Crime of Judicial Apartheid" got to do with fixing your "own" backyard first", which is blatantly in and off third party = reactions to trauma = LIES/DECEPTION, meaning they are not a remedy that gets MAN out of "The System" of hell forevermore, instead it keeps MAN trapped in "The System". Is "The System" your "God", your master?

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Chaz Le

You are BLATANTLY in denial, MY WORK IS MY WORK, I dont dream up Aliens, Boogiemen under my bed, Lizards from Outer space......And you seem to know the conditions which ail you by your description of symptoms

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Arthur Cristian

Why are you relying upon educated slaves, part of a system of slavery, do you believe that these slaves will free you from slavery?

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Arthur Cristian

Now you are blatantly lying and lying and lying...... where have we made such claims" "I dont dream up Aliens, Boogiemen under my bed, Lizards from Outer space......And you seem to know the conditions which ail you by your description of symptoms". ???????

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Chaz Le

Correct me if I am wrong, You played the BANKERS' GAME and YOU LOST.....But you had NO legal argument except for self-entitlements?

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Arthur Cristian

That was many years ago and Arthur has since completely pulled "name" out of "The System" years ago too. Have you done this?

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Chaz Le

The ONLY person I rely on is MYSELF.....lesson learnt a long time ago

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Arthur Cristian

So what has that got to do with all the info we have shared here????

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Arthur Cristian

Why are you trying to create a controversy where there isn't one?????

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Chaz Le

here is your symptom: " = reactions to trauma = LIES/DECEPTION" UNLike our friend FD, you dont seem to have the Stockholm Syndrome, but utter hatred, which is good

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Arthur Cristian

We have answered all your questions but you are yet to answer hardly any of ours, if any!!!!

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Chaz Le

here is my answer: = reactions to trauma = LIES/DECEPTION

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Arthur Cristian

We don't hate ANYONE or ANYTHING of nature. We used to - not anymore.

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Chaz Le

Here's my answer: You thought you had a great tactics, but NO strategy....(Hard to beat the bankers) http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/10/31/2865821/jonathan-chait-keyst...

thinkprogress.org

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Chaz Le

Delusions or NOT, I do think I have a strategy:
https://www.facebook.com/RDAsavesROLConstitution
RDA to save the Rule of Law and the Australian Constitution
Can the Racial Discrimination Act 1975 save the Rule of Law, the Australian Constitution & Victorian Charter from corrupt Men & Women corrupted by the Law

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Arthur Cristian

Every letter/word is a 3rd party con-struct, therefore does not exist - example "apartheid", "court", "judicial", "law", "money", :judge", a, b, c, 1, 2, 3, compass, square, etc, etc, they do not exist, are fairytales = reactions to trauma.

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Chaz Le

we shall see what we shall see

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Chaz Le

Yes those are YOUR reactions to trauma, and it was mine too, so I too had to pick myself up

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Arthur Cristian

How can something that does not exist, that has no life-force energy, has no free-will, no natural power, etc, provide remedy for the living???

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Freeman Delusion

Umm, Arthur, this is quite a pile of political philosophy and almost religious conspiracy theories. Despite that I don't agree with the name theory, there's nothing of any benefit to a legal situation as described, so nothing really to do with the premise of this post.

Do you mind not using threads as your own advertising platform bloke..?? I mean, by all means discuss, but this "info" you're spamming my post with is about as irrelevant to the topic as shoe sale spam.

I've never minded you posting your links on their own on my wall as you have done for years, but this is sort of interfering with conversations that are more pertaining to the topic, and filling this thread with irrelevancy.

I will be removing some of these comments.

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Chaz Le

"An idea is like a virus, resilient, highly contagious. The smallest seed of an idea can grow. It can grow to define or destroy you. An idea. Resilient... highly contagious. Once an idea has taken hold of the brain it's almost impossible to eradicate. An idea that is fully formed - fully understood - that sticks; right in there somewhere." http://1.bp.blogspot.com/.../waADRJV2s8U/s1600/Brain.jpg

1.bp.blogspot.com

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Arthur Cristian

Rob, all the con-struts that forms letters, words are fairytales - they are most definitely relevant to this thread. Would you like to have a debate about this during the "day" tomorrow, lets put all this to the test of scrutiny???. As you say "YOU ARE BEING DUMBED DOWN WITH FAIRYTALES."

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Arthur Cristian

Rob, these comments are a load of bullshit "political philosophy and almost religious conspiracy theories.". You made all this up out of thin air, is make-believe. Would you like to put all this to the test of scrutiny to back your claims??? We are all up for learning and keep learning.

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Chaz Le

They have learnt the Art of Human farming: and You couldnt change the narrative......NO ARGUMENTS.........http://posteados.com/.../quotes-images-pictures-phrases...

posteados.com

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Chaz Le

Fairytales are like cliches, too easily dismissed with understanding their wisdon

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Arthur Cristian

Then bring forward the first party "court", "judge", "politician". "bank", etc, and we are not addressing 3rd party men and women acting under costumes and titles as 1st parties = fraud/lies as in politician, judge, money, bank = fairytales, etc....

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Chaz Le

More scary than all the monsters and demons you can dream up:

https://scontent-b-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/.../1795569...

scontent-b-lax.xx.fbcdn.net

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Arthur Cristian

Rob, this comment "Denial of legal reality and ignorance of the law is not a solution Arthur, and neither is it a valid defence of charges resulting from that ignorance. Anti-interlectualism is a cop-out. If you want to impact real change, you must at least try to understand the system legitimately, to understand the beast you are trying to rein in." ------- keeps you trapped in "The System". Refer to the Mountain Man post - scroll down to see what Arthur (MAN) does to them and they all just walk out - dismiss everything and destroy all records. With no "name" they can't do anything - on top of this they get terrified of having to process the curses of their "own" making". As we have offered, would you like to have a chat about all this tomorrow or another day suitable for all of us where we could even video record it and upload it all to YouTube for all to learn, see it as a gift to help others and not a battle between brothers....

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Chaz Le

try an audio debate first hey?

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Arthur Cristian

Scrutiny is a powerful way of learning from each other especially when everyone involved are not on e-go trips and are sincere and pure in their intentions and go where the logic of truth/sense takes them. Fiona is off to bed - says this Friday will be suitable for her.

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Arthur Cristian

Rob, we are being VERY SERIOUS here now, we are NOT messing around with you, this is not a power trip, etc, coming from us, We are just challenging you to back your claims and you can do this with us.

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Freeman Delusion

I'm not discussing political philosophy or hypothetical suggestions on how society should function according to the many various opinions on the planet.

I'm discussing LAW, not philosophy. Law is not ever as broad in description, it is well established and has very clear and express terms and proceedures.

I'm way out of denial, and cannot pretend the law doesn't exist, or that ALL validly-enacted legislative acts of parliament are not both a constitutional provision and a fundamental doctrine of the common law. It's clearly delusional.

There is literally centuries of case law and historical record to support the validity of the rule of law and the notion of parliamentary supremacy, and a magistrate is not even permitted to challenge the validity of legislative acts on any other grounds but it's constitutionality, not random ethical or philosophical differences.

That's the premise of this post.

Do you have any valid precedents or rulings that dispute the principle that parliament is not the supreme law-making body, and that it's legislature is a fundamental provision of the law of the land..??

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Arthur Cristian

There is no valid precedence in law for NON-SLAVES - WAKE UP ROB. The law IS ONLY FOR SLAVES. WAKE UP....

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Arthur Cristian

The records are for "names" slaves., precedence in law is ONLY for slaves........ they are all still trapped in "The System". The living MAN HAS NO RECORD ROB - The living MAN is NOT RECORDED in their BOOKS, ledgers, journals, etc.......they do not exist in their world because they are not of their world. WAKE up Rob.

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Arthur Cristian

This is said with love for our brother.

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Chaz Le

I thought YOU left all that behind? NO use hanging onto the resentment man

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Arthur Cristian

No resentment - just PASSION directed at Rob. Rob has a very good heart and he should take what we say in the true spirit from where it was intended to be.

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Chaz Le

Relax, chill out, live your life as you wished....the Ledgers are real they record their Zero-Sum Games of Human Farming....I will deal with it

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Chaz Le

Some are NOT recorded to hide their crimes NO DOUBT

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Arthur Cristian

You go into their "world" with "name" you are admitting to being in and of their world. THIS IS FACT

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Chaz Le

Well I cannot live in MY OWN LITTLE WORLD, human are social animals after all

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Arthur Cristian

Like we say, YOU MAKE THEM PROCESS THE CURSES OF THEIR "OWN" MAKING. BUT YOU MUST NOT PROCESS THEIR CURSES WHICH YOU DO WHEN YOU USE "NAME".

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Chaz Le

NAME or NUMBERS, you are recorded even now

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Arthur Cristian

We are part of co-creating a large tribe = Kindom, involving hundreds of families, children, grand parents, nothing lonely about this.

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Freeman Delusion

You have no standing for immunity to the law Arthur. Not identifying yourself can actually have you detained until confirmation. You are basicly and illegal immigrant, and have f.... all rights. Without a person, you have nothing to attach any rights to. That's what a person is for.

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Chaz Le

You are ALL part of the Chaos theory, space dust floating in space and time

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Arthur Cristian

This MAN uses other peoples "names" to communicate with you. The intentions of this MAN is not contracting with "The System" of "names". You must know who you really are to be so.

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Chaz Le Go

watch the Matrix Movie, you will like it

Blade Runner, Brazil, 2001: ASO, 1984, None of your ideas are unique

They are just academic and not really useful

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Freeman Delusion

That is fraud and giving a false name is also and offense.

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Arthur Cristian

There is NO fraud being committed by us - nothing gained from anyone. no one misled, no one harmed, used, abused, etc, etc..... For fraud to occur and be substantiated there must be an injured party, someone coerced into fraud, etc. Fiona and others who support this MAN provide gifts for this MAN to do what he does. This is NOT Fraud Rob. Everything we are doing is out in the open for all to see, all of it is in PLAIN SIGHT, is part of our FULL-DISCLOSURE clearly expressed with Love For Life and its website since 2005/2007. Everyone knows who they are dealing with.

Rob, You are admitting to being so far out of the depth of TRUTH of what we have been doing on the front-line Rob, seriously you are being blinded by fairytales, by reactions to trauma. No offense to the living-MAN you really are. You really have no idea as to what is really going on as reflected by such comments as the ones posted in this thread to us.

OK, it's clear we are not welcome here - we do not exist to force our views down your throat. So we leave you to pursue the continuation of your belief systems (argue for your limitations and sure enough they are yours). Our door is always open for you Rob. You are most welcome to visit us whenever, however, if ever you feel inspired to do so. .

As for this comment "You are ALL part of the Chaos theory, space dust floating in space and" and many others you are posting in this thread Chaz Le, they are lies and lies and lies. All you are doing here is trying to impersonate our characters and you can only do this by attempting to kidnap them so you can impersonate us and make out (make believe) that the claims you are making up are coming from us, are our dreams, our lives, our intentions, our thoughts, feelings, etc....... when the fact is, you made them all up. This is slander and is fraud and is lying.

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Arthur Cristian

Rob, also this comment of yours

" You have no standing for immunity to the law Arthur. Not identifying yourself can actually have you detained until confirmation. You are basicly and illegal immigrant, and have f.... all rights. Without a person, you have nothing to attach any rights to. That's what a person is for."

is an admittance that you have no real idea as to what is really going on, and if you did, then this makes you incredibly dangerous to the well being of others who are blatantly being misled by your peddling of lies. All you are doing here is insisting and testifying that you as "name" in and of 3rd party, continue being a slave in "The System" and that you want everyone else to remain slaves in "The System" so that you can receive the privileges, benefits, services derived from slavery, from men and women and children brainwashed into being educated slaves. NOW WHY IS THAT??????

The law is NOT your (MANS) law.

The offer to have a debate with us is there to prove to you incontrovertibly that you are lying and supporting lies, innocent or not. If you do not challenge us, it is an admittance that you do not want your lies to be exposed for all to see. If you really believe you have the truth on your side then you really have nothing to be concerned about.

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Arthur Cristian

We are posting this whole thread on the three Love For Life Facebook walls and in the Love For Life website. You are being challenged - Lets see what you are made of Rob.

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Freeman Delusion

I cannot debate a delusion Arthur, especially one that denies the existence of common law precedents being the deciding factor in similar cases being a fundamental of the rule of law. To encourage people to delude themselves of such is dangerous,

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Arthur Cristian WHAT A F.............COP OUT - YOU GUTLESS F............ WIMP....

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Arthur Cristian

You are admitting to presently showing up as being pathetic. We know the law better than you - that is apparent now by such bullshit posts that you have just dredged up.

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Arthur Cristian

You really have NO IDEA what you are talking about. Rob.

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Freeman Delusion

I can challenge you to get charged for an offence and debate your delusion with a magistrate. It seems you cannot accept evidence when presented, but that won't work in court.

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Earthica-Star Soveran

FD... please prove that common law applies to me... and please... try to use coherent sentences and make some sense... thank you

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Arthur Cristian

Lies are lies - lies do not stand up against a living MAN. Only liars deal with liars/lies. A massive difference here. NO MAGISTRATE or JUDGE WILL TAKE ON THIS MAN.

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Arthur Cristian

Don't you get it - we destroy them with full-responsibility/liability - this MAN goes into their courts to have them be caught so they FLEE - this MAN comes with full-responsibility/liability for everything this MAN thinks feels and does. This MAN forces them to instantly depart limited liability/responsibility and bring them "under" full liability/responsibility for everything they think, feel and do. Watch them flee. They do not want to process their curses of their "own" making. We know of at least 20 families in law completely ruined destroyed and 17 pedophiles committing suicide, all of them were visited by Arthur, all were forced to process the curses of their "own" making. This is not something to gloat and brag about, in fact it saddens us when we receive news of such outcomes. We are now not the only ones doing this to harm doers Rob. We are just sharing with you the basic facts of real outcomes going on.

All lies are curses and all liars are processing curses. We protect the privacy of those we target. But let us assure you that word is spreading fast and many in law, etc, are now no longer thinking they are infallible. We are very serious, committed and determined in what we do. We do not create curses - we use their "own" curses against themselves, their families, loved ones, associates and beneficiaries and they have NO escape unless they make whole with all those they harmed or sought to harm. This is all explained in great detail in our Love For Life posts. This is the most peaceful, non-violent way of dealing with terrible harm-doers. Our conscience is clear. We accept their free-will to dream whatever BUT we force them to experience the outcomes/consequences of their "own" making.

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Earthica-Star Soveran

haha... that's what i thought

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Arthur Cristian

You don't f.... around with letters, words, constructs, fictions, bullshit-fairytales - we DEAL ONLY with the living, first party to first party - always with FULL-RESPONSIBILITY/LIABILITY - Your common law ROB IS A LOAD OF F............ BULLSHIT.

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Arthur Cristian

Rob, unless you want to do harm, be party to harm, this MAN will destroy any "court" actions you undertake with this MAN. You won't even be able to begin to apply your "common law" because it was already destroyed before you could even open your mouth. So lets ask you again, you gutless wimp, are you up for a debate to back all your claims with us???

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Freeman Delusion

The debate you are asking for is akin to a muslim debating a christian, with the muslim only using the koran as proof, which the christian doesn't accept, and the christian using the bible, which the muslim doesn't accept. It is pointless, and there can be no end result.

Likewise, if you do not even accept the basics fundamentals of rule of law, precedents do not prove anything to you, regardless of how valid and applicable they are, and your unintelligible ramblings prove nothing to me neither. It is pointless, and there can be no end result.

But as I said, since you are claiming your untouchable, and the ONLY WAY to PROVE IT is to get charged and debate a magistrate.

'Natural Man' jailed again

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Arthur Cristian

Rob, you are now being seen for who you really are - there are many who have eyes to "see" and they are "seeing" you for who you really.

We are not Christians or Muslims, we are not religious or involved in any cults or sects, we are non-violent, carry no weapons, we are not part of anything alternative or not, political, science based or not, we are not shepherds or sheeple, we are clean living, take no drugs, social or big-pharma, we don't drink alcohol, we do not kill and eat animals and their dairy products, we are raw-living food eaters, we refuse to lie and be party to lying, we are focused on withdrawing from supporting and causing harm-doing as fast as we possibly can. We are not into freeman/sovereignty bullshit or any other MAN-made laws that supports a slavery system which common law and natural law is part of. We have raised four young daughters who live for the do no harm values and we have helped vast amounts of people over the years who have been in trouble because they were misled by many liars and lies. We walk-the-talk.

Again, your comments are full of bullshit. You are seriously one very scared, gutless pathetic wimp who can't back his claims and needs the law he relies on to protect him. HHHmmmmmmmmm - Says a lot Rob. there are many liars who do what you do.

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Freeman Delusion

As you can see, these are not even my opinion, but the recorded principles of the rule of law, established for centuries.

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Arthur Cristian

No, they are not OUR (MANS) Laws Rob. They are the laws of slavery you uphold. THIS IS FACT and you are fighting for the continuation of slavery. THIS IS FACT.

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Arthur Cristian

His-Story/Her-Story

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
2005-2006

His-Story/Her-Story (History)
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
2005-2007
Reposted 5th July 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8529

Much of his-story/her-story, ancient or not, has been twisted and unless you can rout out all the lies/liars you will be thinking that everything you are reading is true and this is how you become brainwashed - nothing to learn from brainwashing.

Were you there?

Do you know any sensory-live 1st party you can bring forward who was there? And we're not talking about a brainwashed drone coming forward acting under costume and title, or not, as a 3rd party re-presentative of whatever his-story/her-story they claim to be true.

Up to roughly 1780AD, 99.99% of the total population of MAN all across Earth could not read or write any alphabet language. Even up to 1930AD still more than 90% of the population of MAN all across earth were illiterate to alphabet languages. Of today's supposed 6.7 to 7 billion population of MAN, none of their ancestors going back through all recorded his-story/her-story had ANYTHING to do with recording it because they were not able to read and write any alphabet language; they ONLY had their tribal/village sounds, tongues, talk, songs, arts, hand-body gestures, etc.....

When serfs/commoners/renters (slaves) went to war* to fight for their land-lords, land-barons, Kings/Queens, etc, etc, on the front-line of battle, their masters were the ones talking in Greek, Latin, Hebrew, Old English, etc, all of which was Martian-talk/gobbledygook to the serfs.

The ONLY ones who could read and write to record his-story/her-story were the owners of the castles, the land-lords, land-barons, the royal families, aristocrats, the high-priest-hoods and all their scribes and lackeys and they re-presented roughly 20 per one million of the population of MAN going back through ALL recorded his-story/her-story.

The victors wrote ALL the his-story/her-story and it is biased to suit their short and long-term objectives/agendas. It was ONLY these privileged "chosen-ones" who recorded ALL his-story/her-story so no matter what version of alphabet-language history you dive into it was recorded by them. This is FACT.

It takes the better part of 20 years to master the "craft" and "practice" of an alphabet language and this includes mastering mathematics and geometry/sacred geometry (fictitious rules of the divide as in measurements, time, space, levels, planes, dimensions, etc.). All read and write alphabet languages are crafted out of mathematics and geometry/sacred geometry and are all abominations and make-believe. None of them are real or true - they are not our true tongue (song/dream of life).

We are all the descendants of tribes of MAN all across Earth who were invaded, raped, pillaged, plundered, humiliated, ridiculed, abused, decimated, destroyed, and the victims of vast genocide campaigns. What remained of our ancestral tribes were mainly deeply traumatised children who were brainwashed into their conqueror's version of their ancestors his-story/her-story so that, through the generations, they would completely lose connection, direct experience, with their ancestral tongues, nature and song/word-of-mouth truths.

Instead of being left to form their unique, original relationships with nature and having access to all of consciousness, the information of sensory- life, always, they were taught to think and feel what other men and women told them to think and feel. For example, they were told that the sensory-life form over there is a yellow flower and it is a daffodil that does this and that. They were provided with a scientific explanation for everything that they would normally learn about through direct, sensory experience that forms our unique dreams and ideas that are our living-present-sense-consciousness.

Coupled with the indoctrination into religions, occults, esoterics and myths that taught them that there was an almighty God/s, Higher Powers/Beings/Forces who is/are responsible for everything and that there was a beginning to sensory life and there will be an end, the tribes connection with who they really were as MAN in the dream of life was almost completely severed and is still almost completely severed with most of us living lives of shattered reality. (Our next post "Separating The Wheat From The Chaff" July/August 2014 goes deeply into the subject of a shattered reality)

The thing to realise here is that the sensory-life-form did not tell us directly that it was yellow and called a daffodil. These ideas were taught to us by other men and women, who were taught by other men and women. So it goes through every aspect of "The System". We, through this shattered reality, act as impostors of everything we talk about, placing our opinions and feelings about it over the natural-sensory-information that the sensory-life-forms have to communicate directly with us. Education (NON-SENSE) disconnects us from sensory life all around us because we are now under the image power of other men and women telling us how to think, feel and act. All of this is covered in far more detail in the articles, videos, debates, etc, found in the sequential order listed below.

We were all dreamt to be unique, original MAN but this cannot happen when we are instructed or educated about anything of nature (including celestial bodies) and MAN. The thought of freedom is not freedom. The thought of consciousness is not consciousness. This is because they are just the ideas of a freedom and of a consciousness that have been put into your head by others. They are not unique and original to you, they are alien as part of an alien invasion, not from outer space but through man-made brain control. The thought of God/spirit is not God/spirit. There is NO DIRECT SENSORY EXPERIENCE with the thought of a God or of a spirit explained to us by another man or woman.

When you go to a supermarket, do you have freedom or choice? Obviously, you just have choice and the same goes for religions, New Age philosophies, and EVERY philosophy, occult, esoteric, of "The System". The whole of "The System" is based on choice. There is no freedom here because you/we have been shut down from our ability to create unique, original lives/dreams that expand and demonstrate our unique, original lives/dreams.

There is no sensory, living life form as a first party in astrology, numerology, etc, coming forward to say that they are astrology and they exist as a sensory-living-life-form. We cannot hear/sense it directly from their tongue. All we can have are men and women coming forward acting as third party impostors to re-present astrology, and through the water of MANS breath, are putting us under the image power of astrology so that we form our fictitious lives in its fictitious image. (The Water Of MANS breath is explained in the Love For Life Sequential Order in great detail)

If you read the story of Alice in Wonderland to an innocent child over and over again, the child will begin to play Alice in Wonderland and act out the story. But no matter how often she may play Alice in Wonderland, Alice will NEVER be present with the presence of life. We will never be able to directly sense her, only the living child who is portraying Alice. Alice does NOT exist in PRESENT-SENSE, only the child (MAN) exists in present-sense. Alice is NON-SENSE - Wonderland is NON-SENSE. Alice needs MANS presence of life to give the illusion that Alice is present amongst the living. Anyone who believes Alice exists is lying.

All of MAN lost in the belief that they are Christians, Buddhists, Muslims, Jews, Conscious, Liberals, Atheists, Lawyers, Judges, Senators, Prime Ministers, Presidents, Popes, Archbishops, Priests, Professors, Educators, Academics, Experts, Scientists, etc, etc, are lying too. This includes all those who claim that money, commerce, law, natural law, God, Aliens, UFO's, etc, etc, exist as sensory-living-life-forms. They are ALL MAN-made con-structs/concepts/inventions/manipulations/psyops programs. None of them have a natural purpose for the dream of life.

"The System" is a system of storytelling that we have been educated (brainwashed) into, just as we educate our children into Alice in Wonderland. This is how we "conquer" our children by getting them to accept the characters of Alice, the Mad Hatter, etc, as real, just as we are educated to believe in law, government, religion, system science, etc, so that we accept the power and control of these fictitious, man-made constructs/concepts over our lives.

However, a, b, c, 1, 2, 3, compass, square, (geometry, etc) can NEVER come forward as sensory, living life forms to back our claims that they exist as first parties. They do not exist. We, MAN, are the only first parties acting as impostors of these third party imaginings. We are lost in the story telling of a make-believe fantasy. This is what has become of all of us in "The System" of Wonderland, each of us being Alice acting with stage and props. We have all been conquered by the education that was forced upon us by the invaders of alien, make-believe realities, all flesh and blood men and women, our living, first party brothers and sisters of MAN who turned against us all.

No MAN is master of another MAN because all men are equal, but we have been persuaded to give up our equality (unique/original co-creators of the dream of life) to accept the fictitious authority of another MAN, acting under costume and title, over our real lives. This is all done through "name", starting with the birth certificate. The "name" is the "mark of the beast", that is "The System". "The System" is a "name" of many, many, many, many "names" all of which was educated (indoctrinated) into you. None of it is real or true. Supermarkets are "names" full of "names", as are the libraries, the universities, the cities, the suburbs, the roads, courts, religions, etc. All of it is fraud. None of it is natural.

These are psyops programs that were started by the invaders who conquered our ancestors so that they could control them and their descendants, us. "The System" is trauma based and everything of "The System" are reactions to trauma as a result of the spells that compel us to perform the invaders instructions of the psyops programs.

E-Motions are these compelling psyops programs set into motion as the effects of E-Go by victims under the image-power of black-magic. The letter E is a code/symbol for ECCLESIASTICAL. Motion (e-motion) and Go (e-go) are the Freemasonic/Satanic black-magic high-priests/priestesses instruction (psyops) programs provided as a choice for their brain-controlled drones, robots, slaves, to follow. E-Motion and E-Go are reactions to trauma. They are trauma based because they are unnatural thoughts and motions that were implanted into us through unnatural means. Refer to the Love For Life Sequential Order for more on all this.

The invaders of MAN first came as missionaries, scientists, botanists, surveyors, geologists, historians, etc, etc, and they came and went for up to 200 years recording and documenting the tongues, customs, ways-of-life, natural environment, etc, etc. When they had finished recording all their his-story/her-story they then sent in their warships and armies to decimate the tribes. This happened all-across-Earth, all over Europe, Americas, Asia-Pacific regions, etc, etc... All the Royal families of Europa are all the "SAME" bloodlines and all are under the power and control of the Freemasonic/Satanic world led by high-priests/priestesses who created ALL religions, philosophies, civilisations, cults, sects, races, occults, esoterics, "system science", etc, known throughout all recorded his-story/her-story.

The British Empire, not the slaves/drones/commoners/serfs, etc, under Britain, is the head, "The Crown" of "The System" of the Western World that conquered almost all of Earth, if not ALL, and it is still in power today. It controls America (war over America's Independence was orchestrated by Freemasons on all sides - all working together behind the scenes) , Russia (Bolshevik revolution), China (it took 300 years through the East India company and the opium wars to conquer China the British Empire is still in power all over Asia), Canada, NZ, Australia, Japan (thanks to 2nd world war), Brazil, Argentina, Africa, India, etc, etc....... all of it.

When they conquered lands such as Australia, the high-priests/priestesses carved up all the lands into parish lands and put a church in every parish and a priest in every church to deal with the sinners (processors of curses that are the lies in/of "name" that have us commit fraud). It does not matter if the church is Protestant, Catholic, etc, they are ALL 100% controlled by the Freemasonic/Satanic world. Can we trust their history after all the effort they put into brainwashing men, women and children everywhere leading to all the invasions and wars that have murdered over 100 billion men, women, children. This includes all the poisons, toxins, chemicals, eugenics, plagues, pestilence, vaccinations, weapons of mass destruction, agriculture, eating animals, dairy products, processed wheat, etc, (highly dangerous to our bodies), etc, etc, etc, they brought with them throughout all their sojourns across Earth under the guise of Ancient Egypt, Greece, Rome, Babylon, Persia, Assyria, China, Aztec, Maya, Inca, Sanskrit, etc, etc.

All these civilisations had read and write alphabet languages, mathematics and geometry/sacred-geometry and they all had royal families divinely appointed by God, high-priest-hoods divinely appointed by God and the rule of law of God divinely appointed by God. WHAT A COINCIDENCE. There is nothing natural about any of this and they all require extensive brainwashing-education to understand the make-believe con-structs they all are. You can change the "name" royal families, high-priest-hoods, God, etc to EU, NATO, WTO, WHO, UN, NWO, America, President, Prime Minister, Director, CEO, Senator, Treasurer, Professor, Academic, Bankster, Emperor, Dictator, Caesar, etc, etc, etc,......... it's all the same non-sense rubbish used under different guises throughout all their systems of civilisations. All are of "The System", their systems designed to maintain power and control over their captive slaves, generation after generation after generation..... this says it all.

In their recorded "ages" of their his-story/her-story, the late 1100's/early 1200's, they started creating English primarily out of hieroglyphics/pictorial-mathematics, Hebrew, Greek, Latin, etc, and they called English THE NEW WORLD LANGUAGE. The letter j/J did not exist until roughly 1520AD. It appears that j/J was first used by Freemason/Satanist Francis Bacon alias William Shakespeare with the word Jew. Words such as Jesus came out of Lesus which came out of Iesus/iesus which came out of Isis = Land Lord/Land-Baron/Pharaoh/etc ruling over serfs/commoners/slaves/etc. NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

English was crafted by French Judeo-Judaic Architects/draftsmen of law, what you refer to as Gods - judges, barristers, lawyers, etc... They (all the chosen ones of their cabal) are the Gods of English, the gods over all the brainwashed/educated slaves. Welcome to Alice in Wonderland Through The Looking Glass - Welcome To Dorothy Down The Yellow Brick Road In The Land Of Oz.

ALL BOOKS ARE ABOMINATIONS - ALL ALPHABET LANGUAGES ARE ABOMINATIONS - ALL NUMERICS ARE ABOMINATIONS - they were all crafted for PSYOPS PROGRAMMING - There is no other purpose for them. While anyone believes in this non-sense they become the abomination too.

Find a book, scroll, papyri, tablet, alpha language, mathematics, geometry/sacred geometry, recorded history, not part of "The System" of those/any recorded "ages". Can you do that? If you can't then this clearly reveals to you DARKNESS VISIBLE, demonstrating just how big this grand deception is and has been.

Every letter (image/picture/sound) of all alphabet languages is an incantation designed to craft "spells" set into motion by fallen/conned-MAN. They only operate as echoes between the ears. Every English letter has a meaning/sound/code/story/picture/symbol (hieroglyphics) not taught to the duped. These codes were provided ONLY for those with the privilege of being initiated into such deeply kept secrets. They taught you to "spell" the echoes to put you under their "spells" (spellings), echoes bouncing too and fro between the ears as apparitions, demons, phantoms, etc, all of which are man-made constructs/concepts = psyops programs.

* Note: copied from here: Another Delusion - Arthur Cristian - Love For Life - 11th June 2014 - http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8526 - "The common law people fight for was the Land Lords, Land Barons, Kings And Queens, High-Priest-Hoods, Aristocracy laws. The serfs and commoners did not exist as REAL MAN on land, they were not even on their radar. They were seen as goi/goy/animals with NO Rights. They had to work very hard to provide a large % of their produce each season or they worked as labourers, etc, on their masters land-holdings or went to war with their land-barons to pay their "dues" as renters = slaves. If they did not meet their masters demands most serfs/commoners were threatened or terribly harmed or booted off their masters lands or even murdered. Those who remained were forced to leave to find another land-lord/owner of the castle to take them in and slave for. Common Law you is in commerce. Common Law was ONLY for the "establishment". The slaves/animals had no laws. They could not read or write to comprehend and have a common law."

When we realise what is really going on, we fully comprehend that everything we see/sense (touch, taste, feel, smell hear, see = direct sensory experience, first party to first party) of nature including celestial bodies is true/real for us but everything explained/instructed/indoctrinated/educated to us by other 3rd parties (men, women, children) about what we directly see/sense is not. It is fraud and are lies. We have all been mis-led.

Direct experience is SENSORY

Non-Direct-Experience is NON-SENSORY = NON-SENSE

The whole of "The System" education is fraud, is all about men, women and children trained to act as impostors of 1st parties. It is all about hijacking/kidnapping the natural characters of first party sensory-life-forms so we can impersonate them, claiming what they say about them is information coming directly from the first party sensory life-forms we re-present when in fact we are lying because we either made it all up as make-believe or are repeaters of make-believe storytelling passed on to them by other 3rd party impostors.

The whole of "The System" and everything of it is FRAUD.

We, MAN, were never meant to be educated (brainwashed) about anything. 3rd party re-presentations are just thoughts/ideas/pictures bouncing to and fro between your/our ears as echoes. They are apparitions, ghosts, phantoms of make-believe = fantasy, illusion and delusion. Make-believe does not exist. Make-believe is NOT proof of fact.

Where can millions of innocent children not exposed to "The System" or exposed to anyone exposed to "The System" go anywhere in nature (including celestial bodies) to learn about a, b, c, 1, 2, 3, compass, square (geometry = measurements, etc) occults, esoterics, government, law, religion, etc, and every other make-believe thought/idea/picture derived from them.......... without someone already got at (brainwashed) having to explain/educate/instruct/re-present it all to them?

Bring forward any Christian, Jew, Buddhist, Muslim, New Ager, atheist, scientist, etc, etc, who is not a slave in "The System". This includes your parents and ancestors going back through all recorded his-story/her-story. You won't be able to because all the Holy Books, Scrolls, Papyri, Tablets and philosophies and ideas of "The System" are a testament to the enslavement of MAN under the image power of the psyops programs of these black magic priests and priestesses. How many thoughts that you think and experience as e-motions are unique and original to you? If you are pure and sincere in your intentions you will see/sense that we are all deeply compromised as educated-(brain-controlled)-slaves.

http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8528

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Arthur Cristian

The common law people fight for was the Land Lords, Land Barons, Kings And Queens, High-Priest-Hoods, Aristocracy laws. The serfs and commoners did not exist as REAL MAN on land, they were not even on their radar. They were seen as goi/goy/animals with NO Rights. They had to work very hard to provide a large % of their produce each season or they worked as labourers, etc, on their masters land-holdings or went to war with their land-barons to pay their "dues" as renters = slaves. If they did not meet their masters demands most serfs/commoners were threatened or terribly harmed or booted off their masters lands or even murdered. Those who remained were forced to leave to find another land-lord/owner of the castle to take them in and slave for. Common Law you is in commerce. Common Law was ONLY for the "establishment". The slaves/animals had no laws. They could not read or write to comprehend and have a common law.

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Arthur Cristian

Rob said: " As you can see, these are not even my opinion, but the recorded principles of the rule of law, established for centuries." SO WHO IS YOUR MASTER ROB????

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Freeman Delusion

Your last dozen comments if repeated in court would be rejected as frivolous.

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Arthur Cristian

The courts you re-present are your masters courts Rob, they are not this MANS courts, they are not this MANS masters. This MAN is not answerable to another MAN, that's unless this MAN has done harm to another MAN, first party to first party. ALL MEN ARE EQUAL. Your courts are COMMERCIAL - this clearly tells you and everyone who your MASTER is Rob.

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Freeman Delusion

The electoral consent of the collective majority is the authority behind law. You are declaring war on the collective.

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Arthur Cristian

Commerce is the processing of a curse Rob. Why do you think your masters after conquering lands like the one we stand on, created parish lands and put a church in every parish and put a priest in every church to deal with all the original sinners??????

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Freeman Delusion

I don't believe in curses, or your other religious

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Arthur Cristian

The electoral, the public, the society, are the commoners, goi/goy, who have NO RIGHTS. they are all deeply brainwashed as educated-slaves working in a system of slavery where men and women are not provided with full disclosure of what is/was really going on. The electorate are deeply brainwashed, mostly medicated in a variety of ways, deeply traumatised,ONLY PROVIDED WITH CHOICES (this ain't freedom) and work their arses off to maintain leases and mortgages to their masters for a whole life-time.

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Earthica-Star Soveran

the real delusion here is clearly the 'collective' mind... Arther.. you're not dealing with an articulate 'man'... no one takes this clown seriously

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Arthur Cristian

We have no religion to follow. All lies are curses and all liars are processing curses. Go and ask any judge/priest why he/she wears black, why they conduct a range of rituals before during and after court, and sermons, why one of their books is called "BLACKS" Law (as in Black-Magic) Dictionary, etc......

You want to do your homework because multi millions of people are aware about this and particularly Freemasons/Satanists. Ask most traditional tribal elders who have been provided with the "knowledge" of curses passed down through their ancestors to them. Go and read your Bible which Common Law is deeply rooted in, as it also talks about curses/lies too. Go and look into Haitian Voodoo witch doctors and ask why they used ceramic jars sitting on shelves to catch curses coming back to them. This is just a brief example of multi hundreds found on the internet.

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Freeman Delusion

As I said, I'm not discussing political philosophy, religion or hypothetical suggestions on how society should function according to the many various opinions on the planet.

I'm discussing LAW, not philosophy. Law is not ever as broad in description, it is well established and has very clear and express terms and proceedures.

You have only made assertions based in your own opinions and not a single valid piece of law.

Do you have any valid precedents or rulings that dispute the principle that parliament is not the supreme law-making body, and that it's legislature is a fundamental provision of the law of the land..??

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Arthur Cristian

Your common law and its courts and magistrate and politics etc, is that, is this political philosophy, is religious based, that you are on about - WHAT A F............ HYPOCRITE. LOLLLLLLLLLLL

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Arthur Cristian

Go and get F......... ROB - you are presently showing up as one nasty piece of shit. Whatever credibility you have left is being destroyed left, right and center.

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Freeman Delusion

Not in Australia. Well don't have a defender of the faith, and our common law is not the common law of England

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Arthur Cristian

WHAT A F.......... HYPOCRITE - IS EVERYONE NOTICING THIS????

"Not in Australia. Well don't have a defender of the faith, and our common law is not the common law of England" = political philosophy - religious based. LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

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Arthur Cristian

Rob said: "The electoral consent of the collective majority is the authority behind law. You are declaring war on the collective."

You are addressing deeply traumatised, deeply medicated f........ up men and women and children for a whole life-time. all of them in and of 3rd party to a "name". Interesting how we still receive around 1000 emails per day many coming from these "electorates" who are deeply suffering and want out.

The war was already declared against all these men, women and children forced to undergo intensive brainwashing to become educated slaves, to be deeply traumatised, deeply medicated, deeply f....... up in so many ways, and continue being treated as shit with NO RIGHTS.

This MAN has no need to declare war - those who seek true freedom flock to us to learn what we have learnt. What do you think we have been doing all these years with Love For Life ?????

We stand/live for a mass exodus out of "The System" of harm-doing forevermore. Our determination, our dreams are in plain sight. We provide full-disclosure.

And you want this scam to continue - well you can go and get f.........

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Freeman Delusion

You have proven nothing yet Arthur, just your ability to post copious amounts of unintelligible bullshit without substantuation, just as this post described. So I take it you will not dare to accept my challenge and prove your claims where it really means something... in a court, with a magistrate..??

Didn't think so. Talk tough but no balls.

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Freeman Delusion

Can your kids read books, or is that too evil for you. I feel sorry for them, DoCS probably does too

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Arthur Cristian

You need to create a fabricated criminal offense to draw this MANS physical body into your masters courts. Your courts are not this MANS courts, they are not this MANS masters. Your offer for this MAN to acquiesce to a slave status under a master is not accepted.

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Arthur Cristian

Rob, OK now this MAN will focus on you processing curses of your "own making. You want to now make things personal just reveals the low life p.... you really are. This also clearly reveals you have NOTHING to back your claims, all you've got is belief, faith and and associated opinion which are not proof of fact.

For your interest, we've allowed the children to participate in "The System" so they don't experience e-motional separation, isolation, from those around them, instead to embrace them with their love and walk-the-talk. etc, All four daughters are at the top of the region in most areas of "system classification", in fact they are loved deeply by many, many, many teachers, headmasters, parents, community people, etc, etc, Even with everything we've done to expose corruption inside the courts, police force,, etc, many come from inside these worlds from afar and closer to home to support us and what we are doing but you are not to know this hey.

Years ago, we outsmarted whatever bullshit low-life f............ like you can dredge up. DOCS won't come near us, even the local politicians admire our children while keeping a healthy distance from us, understandably so.

And our children are consistently deprogrammed so they can see/sense all sides of things and the eldest ones are now seeing/sensing what we've been-seeing/sensing for many years now.

This MAN knows where you live, what is your real name, and bit about your background. You are now in this MANS sights. You are now processing the curses of your "own" making Rob.

You re-present an immense danger to a lot of people and if you are not stopped you will cause phenomenal damage upon many innocent and naive men and women who have been deceived/conned by this blatant deception of yours, men and women who have not been provided with full-disclosure as to your true ulterior motives, cul-de-sac intentions (massive red herring distraction) and who your real master is. The fact that you also came out of the routing out of OPPT with us and others makes it even more serious with us to stop you dead in your tracks because you now have a "looking good" fabricated front to deceive others with. As we often say... the greatest lie and liar is the one closest to the truth, they cause the greatest damage of all.

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Earthica-Star Soveran

this alleged 'collective' sounds like the only religion being preached here

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Freeman Delusion

I will make legal record that you have made threats against me, but I don't give your so-called "curses" any credence. You have no idea where I live, and neither does anyone else lol.

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Arthur Cristian

Exactly, and he has revealed his nasty nasty real side by bringing our children into this and DOCS. We know where he lives. .

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Arthur Cristian

The ONLY threat has come from attacking our children. That is as far as it goes Rob. You are dealing with someone who backs everything he says. Now you are processing the curse. This MAN has you in his sights.

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Freeman Delusion

Ooohh, Hit a soft spot didn't Iol. DoCS must freak you out lol

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Arthur Cristian

NO, you just revealed your true colours. THANK YOU.

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Earthica-Star Soveran

what a joke... this FD is just a provacateer.. strawman arguments and blanket statements, ad hominem attacks, claims of some mob law... bwahahaha!! .. i see where he gets the 'delusion' part of his/(or her) name Just now

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Freeman Delusion

"Attacking" lol, you're quote insane eh. I said "Can your kids read books, or is that too evil for you. I feel sorry for them, DoCS probably does too."

Bahahahaha you're f......... crazy, and your baseless threats mean nothing to me

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Arthur Cristian

They are your implied threats to our children - only low life scum would even consider saying something like this. Good hearted people just don't do this. What was the purpose of even saying it - it was blatant making things personal. Would not matter what you say now - the fact is you did say it. That is enough for us. You really are a low life p......

These kind of discussions/debates helps many many people to learn how to rout out lies and liars and the psyops programs they peddle. Is why we said "Thank You.

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Rob, then took the whole thread down and blocked us completely and removed his FB friendship with us. LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

The Cristian Family November 2006

Facebook Discussion With
Doolin Dalton

As part of the continuation about the exposure of Rob, Freeman Delusion, http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8526 and https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203913561027483 and https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203918263265036 - Doolin Dalton started a conversation with us in the two Facebook Love For Life Group Walls. Doolin Dalton https://www.facebook.com/jack.doolan3 said: This is from "Love For Life Legal Disclaimer"...

"The Web Site Information has been prepared to provide general information only and is not intended to constitute or be construed as providing substantive professional advice or opinion on any facts or circumstances. Transmission of the information is not intended to create, nor does its receipt give rise to, a professional-client relationship between 'Love for Life' and the receiver.

The impact of the law, policy and/or procedure for any particular situation depends on a variety of factors; therefore, readers should not act upon any Web Site Information without seeking professional advice. 'Love for Life' is not responsible for any action taken in reliance on any Web Site Information herein.

'Love for Life' is not responsible for any action you or others take which relies on information in this website and/or responses thereto. 'Love for Life' disclaim all responsibility and liability for loss or damage suffered by any person relying, directly or indirectly, on the Web Site Information, including in relation to negligence or any other default."

So Arthur...

If we take the information on this site to a legal professional before trying it out, (as in the disclaimer above) and the learned professional dismisses them as fabrications, (probably using the exact same long-established principles that The Freeman Delusion has explained) what exactly is the situation we then find ourselves in at that point..??

If we were to proceed regardless, wouldn't we in fact be wholly relying on blind faith in your theories of law, and not any established fact of law..??

So anyway, regardless of inconvenient facts and established principles of law, we use the so-called "information" on this site, and FAIL badly in court. (due to it being disinformation as the legal professional said)

We lose property, lose money, go to jail, get committed into a mental health facility, or lose the kids to the state, all while you sit back and laugh at our naivity without suffering any liability at all (as in the disclaimer above) for the deception you created, or the harm it done to the decieved and their loved ones.

Sounds like a really intelligent thing to do...

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Love For Life Kindoms - The Co-Creation Of Do No Harm Communities replied....

Hi Doolin, this is Arthur here. The website is owned by Fiona Cristian and as she is in "The System" the December 2006 disclaimer is there to protect her and the webmaster from any despicable nefarious tactics brought into action by those who dream to destroy the website, who want it out of the way. The disclaimer is not there to protect Arthur, so you are dealing with Arthur here, first party to first party.

The intentions of what we share are in plain sight, are factual, are logical, are truth. If you think that what Arthur is saying in this post about Rob, is wrong, are lies, etc. then please share the incontrovertible evidence of said facts for all to see.

Note also, that there over 11,000+ individual articles, pdf's, podcasts, research documents, booklets, etc, etc, found in amongst the 8,500+ threads/posts that are mostly not our work and a fair-bit that we do not even agree with but we leave it all up in the interests of freedom of thought, speech and opinion.

We have made this point many times over the years.

We make a wide range of information available for those interested to take what they like and do with it what they will.

There are no victims here, unless someone is not taking full responsibility for their thoughts, feelings and actions.

We allow anyone to post on the Love For Life Website, having only taken down a handful of posts in the last 9 years because they were links to advertisements, just foul-mouthed rants, or extremely nasty posts about what they would like to do to Fiona and the children, with no relevance to topic.

We do not support censorship.

The Love For Website is for grown - ups who are not looking for someone to point the finger at if they make bad choices!

In 2009, the NSW Jewish Board of Deputies tried to take the website down, claiming that it was anti-Semitic, but they gave up after a few hours when they realised that they were free to post their views and that we would leave up anything they cared to mention, as can the Queen, the Pope, anyone. Plus, in a matter of hours when word got out, they were inundated by thousands and thousands of people from all over Earth, complaining.

Commented on by Arthur Cristian · Yesterday at 08:21

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Doolin Dalton

Firstly, you didn't make any mention to WHAT exactly in particular that he said, that you claim to be a LIE.

I have talked to several "legal professionals" and according to all REAL (and fully liable) advice, the court rulings he quoted DO stand as valid law in Australia, as they have precedence over any cases questioning the supremacy of parliament, as you are promoting that people do.

So as he said, do YOU actually have any EVIDENCE in documented case law, that would possibly overrule the precedence set?

Secondly, if you do not, HOW exactly can you falsely claim he is lieing, when established case law actually DOES confirm the supremacy of parliament, while you only present your "opinion", with limited liability?

Thirdly, reading through the thread, it appears YOU are the only one HEATED, the only one SWEARING, and the only one making THREATS toward anyone. I'm actually surprised you would reprint this, since it only shows YOUR true colours more than anything he said or mentioned.

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The law itself is the issue - the law is a fraud, is a lie. Legal professionals are all liars. None of the law exists, it's all in 3rd party. There is no first party.

Fictions are not proof of fact which renders the law invalid.

a, b, c, 1, 2, 3, compass, square do not exist and everything that is derived from them do not exist either, are all make believe.

All legal professionals act as impostors of a, b, c, 1, 2, 3, compass, square and this includes every other construct/concept derived from alphabets, mathematics and geometry.

Until you can incontrovertibly prove that a, b, c, 1, 2, 3, compass, square exist as sensory living 1st parties everything that is derived from them (constructs/concepts) is fraud and are lies too, and therefore is invalid.

The law is derived from a, b, c, 1, 2, 3, compass, square, which clearly reveals that the law is a fraud and is a lie too and therefore is invalid.

Legal professionals act as impostors of a, b, c, 1, 2, 3, compass and square.

No truth can be derived from a lie. THIS IS FACT.

Nothing valid, of substance, is derived from make-believe, from what does not exist and has never existed.

Belief in make-believe is not proof of fact.

Re-presenting "Intellectual Property" is the practise of belief.

This MAN works with FULL-RESPONSIBILITY for everything this MAN thinks, feels and does. What about you?

This MAN works with FULL-DISCLOSURE. What about you?

This MAN refuses to support, cause and condone fraud = DOING HARM.

This MAN works ONLY with truth. What about you?

To lie or support lies is to DO HARM.

Do you wish to harm another MAN by lying to them and enforcing lies?

What do you think has happened to everyone who has been educated with lies?

And were they all provided with idiot-friendly full-disclosure about the lies they were being educated/brainwashed/indoctrinated into and what about the fraud?

All lies are curses and all liars are processing curses.

Australia/Commonwealth Of Australia is a lie, is fraud.
Legal Professionals is a lie, is fraud.
Common Law is a lie, is fraud.
Court, the bar, the rule of law are lies and are fraud.
Parliament is a lie, is fraud.
Court Rulings are lies and are derived from fraud.

Will copy a few recent posts below to expand on this further.

Commented on by Arthur Cristian · 18 hours ago

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A world of words is a world of lies - We use our senses to communicate - all of nature does this which clearly tells you/us that senses is our true tongue. All words are lies, all read and write alphabet languages, mathematics and geometry/sacred geometry are abominations. They are always in and of 3rd party.

While a "dog" with a few sniffs can gain a vast amount of information about the MAN through direct-experience, first party to first party, the dumbed-down brainwashed MAN lost to (indoctrinated by) words is thinking words "brown-dog". This shows you the vast depth of our fallen state. Argue for your limitations and sure enough they are yours. We've provided sufficient links to help you fully comprehend the big-picture.

Does a child first have to believe in a tree before the child can sense the tree???? Of course not, the presence of the tree (LIFE) is already present to the child and the presence of the child (LIFE) is already present to the tree - NO EDUCATION/INSTRUCTION/BRAINWASHING required. But when we educate our children they get lost in words which completely disconnects them from using their senses to have a direct experience with the tree.

If we say to a child that that sensory life-form over there is a daffodil and is yellow and is part of this and that and does this and that, etc, etc, and the innocent child trusts us, looks up to us, and we have not provided the child with full-disclosure, the next "time" a brainwashed child comes across this sensory-life-form, the child's head will be spinning with all the "words" we filled the child's head up with, words, words, words, words (spells) bouncing to and fro between the ears (so to speak).

The child is now using words to completely cover (superimpose) the sensory-life-form in darkness.

Imagine taking a potato sack to completely shroud/hood the life-form in darkness. This is what the child is doing. The child can no longer sense the sensory information coming directly from a sensory-life-form willingly sharing its purpose for the dream of life with the child.

The words spinning in the child's head has become a SHATTERED REALITY.

The child is now under the image power of another MAN who was acting as an impostor of the sensory-life-form. The fallen-MAN hijacked the natural character and attributes of the sensory life-form. This is fraud, is lying and is completely destroying the child.

The child cannot create unique original thoughts/dreams to create the unique original MAN he/she was supposed to be creating. Now the child is just a clone, a drone, a robot, a slave, under the control of the performance of the image power of another MAN who imposed his will over the child.

The child has now been hijacked from direct experience.

The MAN now controls the child as his/her slave.

In "The System" with its education, instruction, explanation, imagine your whole life being this process to produce a shattered reality for you so that you can be a slave used and abused by your slave master/s in whatever way they want you to perform/behave/act. Your slave master now compels you to act (the pull of e-motions/reaction to trauma that are the words of a shattered reality) exactly how your slave master wants you to act.

If you have been educated you have already been destroyed of who you really are and what you are really part of.

Best to give up all your brainwashing first before beginning to attempt the sensory communication of truth.

A world of words is a world of lies.

A world of words is a shattered reality.

We were never meant to be educated by anyone.

Refer to the Sequential Order as it provides the big-picture we see/sense. You can also scroll down Arthur's Facebook wall to explore the past few months of this type of insightful work which will be added to the Sequential Order in the near future. All updates to the Sequential Order can be found on the home page of the Love For Life website www.loveforlife.com.au - scroll down to find it.

All the best to you and your family.

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

Commented on by Arthur Cristian · 18 hours ago

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To us, God/Allah means FULL-RESPONSIBILITY for everything we think, feel and do.. Passing the buck to a God/Allah is giving up taking full-responsibility for everything we think, feel and do. It is very simple. If everyone took full-responsibility for everything we think, feel and do we would be conscious of all forms of harm-doing/lying and not be party to setting harm/lies into motion. All else is bullshit, this includes all forms of excuses and justifications for perpetuating lies/harm-doing = religion = "The System" of lying/doing-harm.

For example: the thought of a God/Allah is not God/Allah - the thought of a God/Allah is just an idea made up by another man/woman telling you how to think, feel and act about a God/Allah. This is fact and is lying/doing-harm.

Whoever is educating innocent children into the thoughts of a God/Allah is not taking full-responsibility for lying/doing-harm to them.

Where can millions of innocent children not exposed to a thought of a God/Allah (not exposed to "The System" of a God/Allah - that is what religion is = "The System" of justifications and excuses) go anywhere in nature (including observing celestial bodies) to learn about a thought of a God/Allah without another MAN (men/women/children) already got at by "The System" of lying/doing-harm having to explain/educate/instruct them into a thought of a God/Allah??????

If anyone makes the claim of a God or Allah they need to bring forward the first party God/Allah to back their claims so that everyone can have a direct experience with God/Allah, first party to first party with all senses activated = lets hear it directly from the tongue of God/Allah and not from a 3rd party re-presentative of a God/Allah acting as an impostor of a God/Allah = lying/doing-harm = FRAUD.

Anyone who is really waking up can see/sense the depth of lying/doing-harm another man/woman will undertake to keep the lie/harm perpetuating. All forms of excuses, justifications, etc, DOES NOTHING to dispel the fact that they are lying and are blatantly doing harm to innocent children. They are not taking full-responsibility for what they think, feel and do. So unless you/they can bring forward the first party God/Allah to back your claims, we say, STOP LYING, STOP DOING HARM to innocent children = stop passing the buck, stop participating in "The System" of lying and harm-doing = religion = faith or belief or associated opinion in a religion rooted in the thought of a God/Allah.

How many religious believers are providing full-disclosure to innocent children about their lies/harm-doing while indoctrinating them into "The System" of their beLIEfS??????

Are they taking FULL-RESPONSIBILITY????????? NO-WAY.

Commented on by Arthur Cristian · 18 hours ago

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As you say on your Facebook Wall: "“Everything the state says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.” ~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~ "

Commented on by Arthur Cristian · 18 hours ago

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Doolin Dalton

Yes, Nietzsche had some great philosophies, it's a pity his opinion didn't suddenly become valid law just because he thunk it.

Well after that lengthy diatribe of your OPINION or "political philosophy" (as Freeman Delusion called it) it seems pretty obvious that you have absolutely NO LEGAL EVIDENCE of anything you are claiming, that would be applicable in defence of anything in any legitimate court of law.

These things you say are irrelevant to any charge. It is clearly insufficient on its face value, and does not controvert the material points of the opposite pleading, so is presumably interposed for mere purposes of delay or to embarrass the plaintiff.

As a defence it is clearly untenable, and its insufficiency is so manifest upon a bare inspection of the pleadings, that its character may be determined without argument or research.

The terms “frivolous” and “sham" as applied to pleadings, do not mean the same thing. A sham plea is good on its face, but false in fact; it may, to all appearances, constitute a perfect defense, but is a pretence because false and because not pleaded in good faith.

A frivolous plea may be perfectly true in its allegations, but yet is liable to be stricken out because totally insufficient in substance.

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If you want to play their "name" game then you agree to be in their world and of their world of "names" (words/letters/numbers).

This MAN refuses to be of their world. Is why this MAN dropped "name". When you no longer pretend to exist in and of their world they have no power over you, their rule of law is holden for nought.

Many are really waking up to this.

When you realise there is poison buried in the regular food and liquids you eat and drink, do you continue eating and drinking the poisons or do you never touch it again?

We provide full-disclosure of all the lies of "The System". This helps others to navigate away from the lies so they no longer can be harmed by them. The Rule of Law and everything else of "The System" re-presents immense harm to MAN. This is FACT.

a. b. c, 1, 2, 3, compass, square, and everything derived of/from them have no life-force-energy, no will-power to create and set their own images into motion. They are unable to walk, talk, think, feel, poo, wee, negotiate, contract, contemplate, co-create, etc, because they are dead-corpses that require fallen-MAN to act as a 3rd party re-presentative (fraudsters/impostors) of these fictitious con-structs/con-cepts.

ONLY MAN can move paper from desk to desk to desk to desk to filing cabinet and this includes whatever is scribbled, marked, etched, encoded on paper too.

We are dealing with the FORCE of MAN and NOTHING ELSE.

There is no natural-FORCE behind constitution, corporation, courts, parliaments, statutes, precedence, religions, money, commerce, countries, nations, states, etc, etc.... NOTHING.

What we are dealing with here are man-made lies, illusions, delusions, fantasies, etc....

All men are equal - no MAN is master of another MAN.

Why would any "sane" MAN want to give up that "natural living-creator's right"/"standing" of FULL-RESPONSIBILITY for everything MAN thinks, feels, does, intends, dreams, etc, by falling under/into limited-responsibility/liability which happens when a fallen/conned-MAN starts re-presenting the fiction of a "name" as part of a make-believe world of "names" that do not exist, permitting the "game" of "name" being played by other men and women hiding behind fictitious costumes and titles of "names", thus providing them the make-believe power over a fallen-MAN duped into believing in a world of lies/"names"?

MAN is not answerable to another MAN unless a MAN has physically done harm to another MAN and we are not talking about the feigning of make-believe (pretending) e-motions of harm.

Rob (Freeman Delusion) and you are both offering the temptation for this MAN to be harmed by playing the "name" game.

Is this what you are all about?

Are you a harm-doer?

If this MAN ever enters their "courts", this MAN enters for the liars to be "caught" in their lies forcing them and their loved ones, beneficiaries, associates, to process the curses of their "own" making with no escape or respite. Nothing else is entertained by this MAN. This is all explained in great detail in the posts found in the Sequential Order, scroll down here to find them www.loveforlife.com.au

To rehash, these comments of yours.........

"Well after that lengthy diatribe of your OPINION or "political philosophy" (as Freeman Delusion called it) it seems pretty obvious that you have absolutely NO LEGAL EVIDENCE of anything you are claiming, that would be applicable in defence of anything in any legitimate court of law. These things you say are irrelevant to any charge. It is clearly insufficient on its face value, and does not controvert the material points of the opposite pleading, so is presumably interposed for mere purposes of delay or to embarrass the plaintiff. As a defence it is clearly untenable, and its insufficiency is so manifest upon a bare inspection of the pleadings, that its character may be determined without argument or research. The terms “frivolous” and “sham" as applied to pleadings, do not mean the same thing. A sham plea is good on its face, but false in fact; it may, to all appearances, constitute a perfect defense, but is a pretence because false and because not pleaded in good faith. A frivolous plea may be perfectly true in its allegations, but yet is liable to be stricken out because totally insufficient in substance."

They have no relevance to a living MAN, NOTHING, only a duped fallen-MAN would entertain such despicable lies and be caught as a liar. You have nothing on offer here bar HARM.

Commented on by Arthur Cristian · about an hour ago

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Doolin Dalton

They say ignorance of the law is no excuse, but the anti-interlectual reasoning behind your denial of it's existence is quite ridiculous Arthur.

Do you really think any of these "frivilous" assertions will be sustained by any court, when the court is legally obliged to reject them as such, by the nations supreme law-making body? It's legal suicide, and will most definately not affect the validity or legitimacy of legislative powers in any way. It's simply something no magistrate has the authority to do, by the very principles the court is bound to uphold...

"The law of the land depends not upon the arbitrary will of any judge; but is permanent, fixed, and unchangeable, unless by authority of parliament.... Not only the substantial part, or judicial decisions, of the law, but also the formal part, or method of proceeding, cannot be altered but by parliament." ~ William Blackstone (1760 U.K.)

"Are we to act as regents over what is done in Parliament with the consent of the Queen, Lords and commons? I deny that any such authority exists. If an Act of Parliament has been obtained improperly, it is for the legislature to correct it by repealing it: but, so long as it exists as law, the courts are bound to obey it." ~ Magistrate Willes, Lee v Bude & Torrington Junction Rly Co (1871-U.K.)

British constitutional lawyer Albert Venn Dicey established that a parliament can enact legislation dealing with any subject, and that the legislation of the parliament is superior to the jurisdiction of the courts. Parliament has, he confirmed, “the right to make or unmake any law whatever; and, further, that no person or body is recognized by the law of England as having a right to override or set aside the legislation of parliament."

Sir Ivor Jennings took the view that a parliament exists only in theory, because it “is a legal fiction and legal fiction can assume anything”. To demonstrate this, he once stated... "If Parliament enacted that all men should be women, they would be women so far as the law is concerned”.

"If the purpose for which a statute may be used is an invalid purpose, then such remedy as there may be must be directed to dealing with that purpose and not to invalidating the statute itself. What the statute itself enacts cannot be unlawful, because what the statute says and provides is itself the law, and the highest from of law that is known to this country. It is the law which prevails over every other form of law, and it is not for the court to say that a parliamentary enactment, the highest law in this country, is illegal." ~ Magistrate Thomas, Cheney v Conn [Inspector of Taxes] (1968 -U.K.) Chancery Division

"The idea that a court is entitled to disregard a provision in an Act of Parliament on any ground must seem strange and startling to anyone with any knowledge of the history and law of our constitution." ~ Pickin v British Railways Board (1974 -U.K.) HL

"There is little point in searching for additional expositions of, or foundations for, the principle that courts will presume that legislation does not overrule the common law in the absence of clear and express terms, given that it is so clear and that it was not really contested by the State. In English legal history the principle can be traced back for at least 300 years and probably further. It has been applied countless times in Australia, including in the construction of legislation governing privately owned minerals and the public acquisition thereof.

Secondly, the applicant invoked Sir Owen Dixon's reminder that the principle of parliamentary supremacy is itself a doctrine of the common law.

Members of a legislature, such as the Parliament of New South Wales, are regularly answerable to the electors, whereas judges in Australia are not. Judges recognise that, whatever the deficiencies of electoral democracy, the necessity of answering to the electorate at regular intervals has a tendency to curb legislative excesses. Many judges reject "the role of a Platonic guardian" and are "pleased to live in a society that does not thrust [that role] upon [them]". Most judges in Australia would probably share this relatively modest conception of their role. In this conception, the duty of obedience to a law made by a Parliament of a State derives from the observance of parliamentary procedures and the conformity of the resulting law with the State and federal Constitutions. It does not rest upon judicial pronouncements to accord, or withhold, recognition of the law in question by reference to the judge's own notions of fundamental rights, apart from those constitutionally established."

Durham Holdings Pty Ltd v New South Wales (1999) 47 NSWLR 340

"However, any presumption, rule of construction, or imputed intention is subject to valid legislative provisions to the contrary. Judges may decline to read such legislation as having such an effect. The more peremptory, arbitrary and unjust the provisions, the less willing a judge may be to impute such a purpose to an Australian lawmaker. But a point will be reached where the law in question is "clear and unambiguous". Various other verbal formulae are used in the reasoning of this Court to describe that point. They are collected by the Court of Appeal in its reasons. Once that point is reached, subject to any constitutional invalidity, the judge has no authority to ignore or frustrate the commands of the lawmaker. To do so would be to abuse judicial power, not to exercise it.

The applicant was unable to point to any judicial pronouncements, let alone a decided case, which indicated, at any time, that any such principle existed in the common law of England, or of the colonies of Australasia, or of Australia. It advocated the development of the common law, by the recognition of such a principle for the first time in this case." ~ Union Steamship Co of Australia Pty Ltd v King (1988) 166 CLR 1

I've been on the run from Queensland Police for nearly a decade once, hiding in the bush, using aliases and false identification like stolen centrelink cards etc, all because my name was subject to 6 first-instant warrants and 6 commitment warrants, which includes the manditory refusal of bail for failure to appear.

Several searches of remote mountainous forests in NSW were also abandoned after it was declared the area was too inaccessable and rugged to continue.

Yeah I spent many nights in sub-zero temperatures shivering under an oilskin with my horse, too scared to even light a smoke, let alone a fire to keep warm. There was times I knew for certain I would rather shoot and bury any potential witness of my whereabouts than risk being found.

Mates would drop off groceries and stuff to a meeting point in exchange for weed, as well as picking up bulk hand-split firewood or quad fenceposts, and delivering them to a few trusted local farmers, which eliminated the risk of going near a built-up area and recognised.

There was a few covert attempts at arrest, including police acting as council or road workers etc, but when some strange bloke started cutting down a tree on a friends remote property in the middle of the night, I pulled up to investigate and they just jumped on me.

They didn't need "name" lol, they knew exactly who I was, proceeded on that assumption alone, and left the rest for a court to determine.

Being on the run is not fun at all, it's actually a very lonely existence. But if you cannot use your name, this is the type of reality you will have to get used to. The only real difference between the way I lived, and your philosophy, is that I protected my privacy and freewill with firearms and strategy, not DENIAL that the fifty police searching for me in the valley below have any authority to act on me. That's clearly as delusional as it sounds lol...

"The average man is not actually happy when free; he is uncomfortable, a bit alarmed, and intolerably lonely. Liberty is not a thing for the great masses of men. It is the exclusive possession of a small and disreputable minority, like knowledge, courage and honor. It takes a special sort of man to understand and enjoy liberty –and he is usually an outlaw in democratic societies." ~ Henry Louis Mencken (1880-1956)

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You are not this MAN - this MAN has no need to run from them whatsoever. They can come anytime they want but those higher up in the Freemasonic/Satanic world know that at least 20 families in law have already been completely destroyed and 17 paedophiles have committed suicide, all of them after this MAN visited them and made/forced them to take full-responsibility for processing the curses of their "own" making.

Your "system" life is NOT this MANS life, nor do we advocate going on the run, in the bush, or having firearms or living in secrecy, scared to show your face. Everything we do is out in the open for all to see and always will be. This is far better protection than hiding in the bush. You obviously have not read "The Steps to Kindom" remedy we offer which is all about communities standing up against the force of "The System" together, and yes, it will take those with courage, honour and commitment to freedom, to stepping out of their system lives and taking full responsibility for their lives. There is no room for "The System" in people such as this and no room for people like this in "The System". But those brave enough will be able to create the havens for others to come to when they too feel the yearning to break free of their system ties, or when life under "The System" becomes totally unmanageable, as it is fast doing.

We tell those still living in "The System" to keep their heads down and not to invite the FORCE of "The System" into their lives unless they are prepared to deal with the consequences of fines, imprisonment, etc, or unless they are prepared to drop ALL privileges and benefits of "The System" as Arthur has done and even then, to be responsible not to cause harm to others, because taking full responsibility for their lives means being fully responsible for everything they think, feel and do.

Everything you have written here has nothing to do with this MAN. Why would your experience have anything to do with Arthur? He has not been on the run nor would he go on the run. The way this MAN thinks and the way this MAN sets his dreams into motion is not the same as the way you think and set your dreams into motion. If the FORCE of "The System" comes upon him to do him harm, so be it. There is nothing this MAN can do to stop them if they are determined to do harm to his body. BUT, they will be processing the curse because this MAN will not accept their curses/offers/claims.

The accusations you make have nothing to do with this MAN. It is as if you have come down from Mars and you are now saying that this MAN is answerable to the laws of Mars! You don't seem to get that the laws of "The System" can only be enforced while we bow down to them and those who enforce them. The more of us sever our reliance on "The System" and turn away from it, the more their illusions of power recede.

When you were on the run, you were still doing everything in the "name" and you didn't know who you really are, just as you still don't because you are still worshipping their laws and giving them your power. The warrants against you were in the "name", you fought in the "name", survived as the "name" and rejoined system life as the "name" and paid the price in the "name".

This MAN has not done any of this.

You are trying to drag the life of this MAN into your conflict when the life of this MAN has nothing to do with your storytelling and your conflict. This is slander and fraud. Isn't that breaking the law that you worship?

This shows that you are a hypocrite; on one hand you enshrine the rule of law and on the other hand you break these rules of law by committing slander, fraud amongst a few other crimes upheld in and of your "world". LOLLLLLLLLL

This saying is relevant to you - is not relevant to this MAN:

This MAN lives/stands for NO SYSTEM, no man-made system. You live for the continuation of a man-made system.

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I worship no law, and have never purported to. I just know how it operates, and it's fundamental principles. If you haven't figured it out yet, I'm a career criminal and make no pretences about it. I fully admit that I'm totally unashamably, a criminal according to the law, and I care not what your opinions are on that level, nor what the law decrees I can or can't do.

What I don't do, is live in baseless denial of reality as you do, with a delusional point of view that it doesn't exist. Even most of the blokes I've met in jail claim they are completely innocent, but at least have the cognative coherence and direct experience on how REAL the law, and the actions of those that enforce it, really are.

Ever been to jail Arthur? Ever been maced or tasered? How about the backroom rubber mat or phonebook floggings? Have you even been in a courtroom, let alone been in any way successful in legal matters?

Or are you just a keyboard warrior making wild unsubstantuated claims and spouting a personal philosophical ideology that you can't ever prove to be a valid FACT, unless you follow the normal appeal process to Supreme Court and if successful, to the High Court of Australia, and establish a precedent?

Science, they say, is "the study of observable facts" and law is quite the same. The law is not based on random personal opinions. It is made up of unalienable, undeniable findings and principles which have been established over centuries of discernment, such as the principles of due process and the recognition of rights. It is these observable facts that constitute the law, and not your unproven, unobservable personal opinions, nor on the other hand, a magistrates own personal opinions and philosophies. They simply DO NOT hold that authority, and despite your strong delusion, neither do you.

As you have yet to provide me with a single valid piece of substantuated, observable and REAL EVIDENCE to prove your wild claims and assertions, these imaginings you spout remain an unsubstantuated theory based in a mere belief, and as such can not be even remotely considered to have anything to do with law.

Arthur, you are appearing as obstinant as a fool that cannot swim, yet claims he can jump into a deep lake, relying wholly on the premise that his legs will become telescopic and extend all the way to the lake floor. He spouts this delusional assumption to everybody, tells everybody it is undeniable "truth", encourages everybody to try it, yet will never actually even go near the lake himself, let alone demonstrate that it is an observable fact.

Your credibility is sadly lacking any evidence, all you have is your own limited, self-absorbed opinions. Why not take Freeman Delusion's challenge for you to prove your unproven theories, and be charged for even a very minor offence (that is of no "harm" and has no injured party according to your perceptions) and PROVE YOUR BUM DRIBBLE to be effective, let alone have any basis in law?

Freeman Delusion has already done so, and was honest enough to stop perpetuating these myths at that point. I'd say therefore, that your refusal to do so makes you a "FUCKING GUTLESS WIMP" and not himself as you have stated.

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Love For Life Discussions - Why Aren't We Free? How Can We Be Free?

Everything we have to say has already been said and all your questions have been answered very clearly in this thread, including everything else you have written in your last post. You have not said anything new. There is nothing more to say. All else about our backgrounds, etc, can be found by scrolling down the Love For Life.com.au website. To continue on with this discussion with you is to support your conflict and be part of it. We are not interested. We know who we really are and what we are doing about it. We are not answerable to you, as you are not answerable to us. We wish you all the best in a do no harm outcome of your life in whatever is still to be resolved for you.

Also, we are not interested in dealing with 3rd party strangers who only operate in and of 3rd party, men and women of the courts being an example of many such blatant-circumstances in "The System". We deal with ONLY first parties. We refuse to deal with 3rd parties. Your offer and Robs offer is to deal ONLY with 3rd parties, not with first parties.

The challenge to a debate with Rob was in first party to first party, not in and of 3rd party. Rob backed off. Says everything. Same with you, all you can offer here in this thread is your worship in and of 3rd party re-presentation/storytelling/belief systems yet belief is not proof of fact. And here you are continuing the performance in and of 3rd party. You refuse to come forward as a first party.

Though you still hide behind a FB mask, we have had a 1st party to first party debate/discussion here with you but you continue to default to 3rd party and in doing so have not been able to find fault with everything we have raised here in this thread and yet we have found numerous faults/lies in your in and of 3rd party claims. Your ship has been sunk and you are drowning in your ocean of lies and lies and lies. Your lack of credibility, integrity and sincerity is clearly apparent for all to see. Goodbye liar.

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Doolin Dalton

This conversation is between you and I, so don't use Freeman Delusion as some sort of pathetic excuse not to provide a single piece of evidence as substantuation of your claims. That's a very weak attempt to avoid providing proof of claim.

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Love For Life Discussions - Why Aren't We Free? How Can We Be Free?

Good bye 3rd party liar....

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Doolin Dalton

Arthur Cristian is grappling with cognative dissonance issues. Unable to provide ANY evidential substantuation of his claims, he relies wholly upon his own unintelligible opinions, that have already been overruled by centuries of precedent...

https://www.facebook.com/thefreemandelusion/posts/759748590712359

15 June at 11:10

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Naturr Boii

You heed no sense, and merely attack a man, you bring nothing to the table but accusations and beliefs based on your own short comings. You will always be a slave by fighting for your own shackles.
You have been broken, which is a sad revelance of most Man living the same ignorance and violence you display.
Hope you find the spirit they stole from you, and you join us all in paradise

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Love For Life Kindoms - The Co-Creation Of Do No Harm Communities

Copy of a post on Debra Bentley's FB wall.

Debra, in reference to this post: "who knows what it means when the Judge & all Court staff do a huge bow to you...?" https://www.facebook.com/bentley.debra/posts/10203311662986681

Either you as "name" is in and of 3rd party or you as MAN (no "name") is first party. The whole of "The System" operates ONLY in 3rd party, in "name", never in first party.

1, 2, 3, etc, are "names", a, b, c, etc, are "names", compass and square and everything derived from 1, 2, 3, a, b, c, compass, square, are "names" within many, many, many, "names".

The world, the atlas, the country, the state, the city, the suburb, the family of persons, etc, etc, are "names" within "names" within many, many, many, "names".

The local council, the state government, the federal government, all the private corporations, agencies, departments, etc, etc, are "names" within many, many, "names".

The supermarket and everything of the supermarket are "names" within many, many, many, "names".

The streets, the roads, the highways, etc, are "names" within many, many, many "names".

The libraries, the books, the his-story/her-story, the universities, the schools, the institutions, etc, etc, are "names" within many, many, "names".

The holy books, etc, are "names" within many, many, many, "names".

The commerce, the banks, the money, the credit, the debt, the accounts/ledgers/journals, the insurance, the assets, the equity, the deeds, the titles, the bonds, the trusts, the foundations, etc, etc, are "names" within many, many, many. many, "names".

The courts, the laws, the statutes, the bills, the parliaments, the political parties, etc, etc, are "names" within many, many, many "names".

etc

etc

etc

Everything of "The System" is a "name" within many, many, many "names".

All "names" are in and of 3rd party and all are fraud and are lies. None are in first party.

You, fallen-MAN, re-presenting "name" is in their "world" and of their world, you are in 3rd party (committing fraud and lying) and of 3rd party (the world/"The System" is fraud and is a lie), there is NO FIRST PARTY MAN PRESENT WITH THE PRESENCE OF LIFE (MAN) TO BE PRESENT AMONGST THE LIVING..

In "The System" everything is in and of 3rd party = no direct experience = fraud, lies.

Everything outside of "The System" is first party - is first party to first party = direct-experience = no fraud, no lying.

All lies are curses and all liars are processing curses. The "name" is the mark of the beast that is "The System" of "names". All in and of 3rd party ("name") are processing curses.

Nothing has changed here for the re-presentative of "name" Debra Bentley or whatever "name" is used in court. It does not matter how it is written and what is placed before or after "name" because all of it is "name".

The ONLY way to break this spell (processing curses/stop committing fraud, stop lying) is to be the first party = "NO NAME" - NO RE-PRESENTING "NAME" OF "NAME" OF "NAME" - NO PERFORMANCE IN "NAME", IN "NAME", IN "NAME".

MAN has no "name", has no need for "name" and nothing of nature/earth/life/creation needs a "name" either.

To us, the judges (in "name" and of "name") in the court (in "name" and of "name") bowing down to a re-presentative of "name" and in "name" are performing the ritual of processing curses and deflecting curses. NOTHING ELSE IS GOING ON HERE. Anything to do with "name" is a curse being processed.

All "words" and "letters" and "numbers" are curses being processed. More on "words" here: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203921833554291

The moment you/we started re-presenting "name" was the moment you/we were born in original sin = entered "The System" of "names" to ONLY be in and of 3rd party = you have given up everything you really are as first party.

Sin is the curse being processed by men, women and children committing fraud and being party to lies, to lying.

Any remedy to do with "name" is not a remedy, instead is the con-tinuation of a curse being processed.

You have all been deceived. Watch out for the Psyop Programs - they are always performed in and of 3rd party to keep the duped trapped in "The System".

The Psyop Program Scam Behind Religion Belief Faith & Associated Opinion by Arthur Cristian - Love For Life - 11th June 2014

The Cristian Family November 2006

The Psyop Program Scam
Behind Religion Belief Faith
& Associated Opinion


Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

11th June 2014

Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8525

Copied from a Facebook discussion.

Link: https://www.facebook.com/nigel.beckwith/posts/10202275416354849

Nigel Beckwith
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Spent some time with some Muslim Brothers tonight. Good to share with peeps in my multi-cultural town.

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Matt King

Simply the best!!! from: Lynne

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Nigel Beckwith

They want me to read the Qur'an. I will give it a go. They are nice people, so far removed from the dark side that the west presents to us.

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Matt King

Definitely !! Sufism and Rumi all come from the Wholeness of Love !! from: lynne

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Nigel Beckwith

The main chap I spoke to was of the view that Sufism has become corrupted as they now believe that Humans are part of God, but he says that the Qur'an says God and Humanity are very different. I did not want to get into what I feel, as it is not for me to push my gnosis onto someone. I tend to agree with the Sufi's though...I think.

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Mohammad Soliman

its i very complicated Nigel
im muslim (was atheist b4)
sufis are in general good
however if you really want to understand islam ..
you have to know that understanding of religion is just like any other human intellectual activity
can go wrong or can just go extreme
so, sects in general (and schools of practice and understanding) are all right , and are al wrong
because they are man made ..
sufism is man made .. and many sufis say things that contradict simple islamic creeds ..
the belief in pantheism (God or gods can manifest .. or are part of "existense/universe" or the universe is just a reflection of God .. all these pantheistic thoughts) is very very very very non-islamic .. thast what islam is all about actually when it comes to creed ..
if you read the Quran (which is the only 100% trusted source for understanding islam) you will see this very clearly .. like 1/3 of the book is just being repetitive in diff ways about this.. monotheism .. God is 1 , absolute , if its created then its not God nor part of God nor a reflection of God .. God cant be comprehended , nor can be composed wasnt begotten from nor does he beget godlike entities.. if its not God himself then its created by God .. nothing in between .. you cant call God a spirit or a mind or love or whatever ..
sorry ill attach here a long quote .. but it perfectly explains how a true monotheist should think of God , it was preached by the prophet's cousin (one of his best students too) :

"The foremost in religion is the acknowledgement of Him, the perfection of acknowledging Him is to testify Him, the perfection of testifying Him is to believe in His Oneness, the perfection of believing in His Oneness is to regard Him Pure, and the perfection of His purity is to deny Him attributes, because every attribute is a proof that it is different from that to which it is attributed and everything to which something is attributed is different from the attribute.

Thus whoever attaches attributes to Allah recognises His like, and whoever recognises His like regards Him two; and whoever regards Him as two recognises parts for Him; and whoever recognises parts for Him mistook Him; and whoever mistook Him pointed at Him; and whoever pointed at Him admitted limitations for Him; and whoever admitted limitations for Him numbered Him. Whoever said: ‘In what is He?’, held that He is contained; and whoever said: ‘On what is He?’, held He is not on something else.

He is being, but not through phenomenon of coming into being. He exists but not from non-existence. He is with everything but not in physical nearness. He is different from everything but not in physical separation. He acts but without connotation of movements and instruments. He sees even when there is none to be looked at from among His creation. He is only One, such that there is none with whom He may keep company or whom He may miss in his absence."

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Mohammad Soliman

so from every sect take the good and leave the bad ..
how do you know the good from the bad?
compare it to Qoran ..if it contradicts clear meanings of the Quran then its wrong ..

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Mohammad Soliman

that as a muslim of course , i know youre still just looking around for knowledge of diff sources

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Fadi Zeitoune

As the Sufis say, "only those that have tasted, can know"

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Fadi Zeitoune

And as Arthur Cristian says all the above is intellectual property/reasoning, only with direct experience, can someone truly know Allah..

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Matt King

http://youtu.be/WnBYyIhDLWw from: lynne
The Great Deception Now Coming Upon The World
The Great Delusion of Islam the AntiChrist Cult Of Death is Sweeping and changing the political landscape in America. This is the Spirit Of AntiChrist "Who i...

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Mohammad Soliman

too each their own Zeitoune ..
thats how sufis view it .. but the guy is curious about islam itself .. islam is something and sufism is something else ..
sufism in its good side is the transcending core truth of all religions .. you cant be a true believer without being some sort of a sufi ..
in its bad side it has some non-islamic influences resulting in creeds and practices which contradict very clear Quranic teachings ..
like other sects do on same or other levels
you want to believe your sect has got it all .. fine .. and i respect that ..
but the guy is asking about islam in general apparently
and it is very non-sufi to assume i didnt taste thus i dont know

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Mohammad Soliman

thats exactly what v i meant when i said sects are man made thus not balanced and they usually express extremes ..
you know God by intellect .. by logic .. by heart .. by experience .. by practice .. by divine revelation (prophets delivering the word of God)
choosing one thing and saying its the only path results in imbalance ..
and God knows best

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Fadi Zeitoune

I agree, but if you have ever had a direct experience.. you will know the analogy of who/what we really are... "God is the dreamer, and we are but the dream characters" Having a direct experience is akin to having a lucid dream, where you know you are dreaming, and you 'remember' you ARE the dreamer... Another analogy, Imagine God was an actor, and he had to wear a mask and then he started to believe he was the mask... a direct experience is the same as taking that mask off.....and remembering who YOU and everyone/everything really is...

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Fadi Zeitoune

Remember the Quran is tthe direct word of God, but even it was filtered into Muhammad's brain and thoughts at the time and that time in history...

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Mohammad Soliman

no no no .. thats pantheism bro .. we are not God and God is not us .. we are from God .. but we are not God ..

and its wrong to think that Quran was "filtered" in Muhammad's brain ..
Quran is literal from God to the angel to the prophet to us .. not a letter changed ..
we can debate about this all you want .. the prophet wouldve messed it up if it was subject to his brain .. yes he is a prophet but he is human ..
i can bring many and many verses that will show Muhammad is not saying , but he is just reciting what was said to him

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Mohammad Soliman

and in general "personal experience" alone isnt a reliable source of religious/spiritual knowledge.. the devil works in mysterious ways too ..
if someone had some personal experience telling them chicken should be raped on mondays that doesnt make it a universal truth ..
im not judging your own experience .. who am i to get in that area .. im just saying its not reliable and its not an argument ..

anyway .. i have to go now .. bbl isA watch the video and continue the chit chat ..
peace be upon you all dear brothers

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Fadi Zeitoune

If God is the only reality.. there is ONLY God....

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Matt King

Definitely agree with you Mohammad the prophet is the mouthpiece/sensing a direct experience but it must be a living prophet for all dies with the death of a prophet and spirit/wisdom/love is Life in Motion fulfilling and evolving to the highest form of Love in Wholeness with everything ....from: Lynneviamatt

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Mohammad Soliman

yeah thats what ibn arabi says .. i understand it and i can prove it wrong in detail later .. but just a small hint now ..
God "exists" .. we dont really "exist" .. we are " existees"..
whats the diff?
the diff between God and no-God ..
thats exactly what divinity is all about ..
thats why i said God is not a mind (for example) God is all knowing .. but he is not a mind or the mind of the universe ? what universe? the universe is nothing .. its very belittling of God to think that the universe is God "looking into his mirror"
God knows but is not a mind and knows without needing a "mind"
God knows because he is the Knower
God sees but God doesnt have an eye .. its we who need tools because we are limited .. he is just "the all seeing"
God exists by himself .. we (and everrything else that is not God) exist by God ..
God is the only existence in that sense .. but that doesnt mean we dont "exist" too .. we do .. but we are existees ..

salam for now . igtg

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Matt King

Prophet's were an instrument to bring Man to this point of time they were the Voice in the midst of Chaos/system virus/satanic spells .... we now have to evolve in the Wholeness of Love as we have all the pieces/experience to the puzzle .. We are the living Presence we are the fruit of the prophet's labour those who are awake to Sense/Spirit/Wholeness .....from: Lynneviamatt

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Fadi Zeitoune

Another Analogy, God is the diamond, and we are each the facets of that diamond... God is the Ocean, and we are the droplets of water within the Ocean...

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Fadi Zeitoune

One that came to me is that we are the droplets of water, but we are surrounded by a mirror-like substance, so we only see our reflection... if we take away that substance, we can then see what we are the whole ocean...

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Matt King

We are Cosmic beings We are from the Heaven's ...from; Lynneviamatt
Matt King's photo.

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Fadi Zeitoune

Matt Dont know if you have read any of the ringing cedars, but in that Anastasia describes God as 'the supreme intelligence", or just our Father.. in the literal sense... she says each of us has a particle of God within us.. (our soul?)

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Arthur Cristian

To us, God/Allah means FULL-RESPONSIBILITY for everything we think, feel and do.. Passing the buck to a God/Allah is giving up taking full-responsibility for everything we think, feel and do. It is very simple. If everyone took full-responsibility for everything we think, feel and do we would be conscious of all forms of harm-doing/lying and not be party to setting harm/lies into motion. All else is bullshit, this includes all forms of excuses and justifications for perpetuating lies/harm-doing = religion = "The System" of lying/doing-harm.

For example: the thought of a God/Allah is not God/Allah - the thought of a God/Allah is just an idea made up by another man/woman telling you how to think, feel and act about a God/Allah. This is fact and is lying/doing-harm.

Whoever is educating innocent children into the thoughts of a God/Allah is not taking full-responsibility for lying/doing-harm to them.

Where can millions of innocent children not exposed to a thought of a God/Allah (not exposed to "The System" of a God/Allah - that is what religion is = "The System" of justifications and excuses) go anywhere in nature (including observing celestial bodies) to learn about a thought of a God/Allah without another MAN (men/women/children) already got at by "The System" of lying/doing-harm having to explain/educate/instruct them into a thought of a God/Allah??????

If anyone makes the claim of a God or Allah they need to bring forward the first party God/Allah to back their claims so that everyone can have a direct experience with God/Allah, first party to first party with all senses activated = lets hear it directly from the tongue of God/Allah and not from a 3rd party re-presentative of a God/Allah acting as an impostor of a God/Allah = lying/doing-harm = FRAUD.

Anyone who is really waking up can see/sense the depth of lying/doing-harm another man/woman will undertake to keep the lie/harm perpetuating. All forms of excuses, justifications, etc, DOES NOTHING to dispel the fact that they are lying and are blatantly doing harm to innocent children. They are not taking full-responsibility for what they think, feel and do. So unless you/they can bring forward the first party God/Allah to back your claims, we say, STOP LYING, STOP DOING HARM to innocent children = stop passing the buck, stop participating in "The System" of lying and harm-doing = religion = faith or belief or associated opinion in a religion rooted in the thought of a God/Allah.

How many religious believers are providing full-disclosure to innocent children about their lies/harm-doing while indoctrinating them into "The System" of their beLIEfS??????

Are they taking FULL-RESPONSIBILITY????????? NO-WAY.

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Nigel Beckwith

Best go and tell the Muslims that then mate. I am just their friend.

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Mohammad Soliman

back briefly will have to go again , sorry ..
just read what you guys wrote when i left and im really amazed at how many people claim to be spiritual yet the only way for them to comprehend "spiritual"* matters is through the material ..
God is the universe .. God is a vibration .. God is energy .. the soul is but a sell in the body and so on ..
that sounds very "material" to me ..

heaven* means heaven literally .. so coming from heaven means coming from "outer space" .. then it gets all material .. we come from outer space .. scientifically earth and all matter on it including our bodies is but star dust .. and there you go .. just giving "spiritual" names to material things .. (thats how they worshiped the sun for example)

i put the '*' thing in front of 'heaven' and 'spiritual' because these two are also not islamic terms and terms can be very misleading ..
muslims dont say heaven .. they say paradise .. heaven is part of the universe .. the whole universe is almost an illusion and it is temporary .. "heaven/paradise" is post-universe
muslims dont say spiritual ..
because we dont think God is a spirit ..
thinking hell is beneath us inside earth and that God is in the heaven and those who die go to heaven is a pagan concept that influenced jewish and christian intelects at the time of writing down the word of God .. how Quran was preserved is very diff from the old and the new testaments ..

anyway to sum the point up .. jst imagine how many other universes can God create with totally diff sets and numbers of dimensions and dimensional relations .. and youll understand how big of an intellectual sin to consider God part of that universe

please dont misunderstand me ... im not attacking your beliefs ..nor am i judging you or anything .. im showing you the areas of friction with other beliefs.. we're thinking and searching together ..

there is something Godly in us .. God is within us .. near us .. but he is not us ..

you want to know why is it dangerous? pantheism, i mean .. thats how polytheism usually happens .. and worshiping people and all that ..

ok . if God is us .. some are good and some are bad .. right? how can that be when God is all of us .. then it must mean that God manifests only in those who are good .. the more God you recognize in you the more of God you become .. right? thats how it functions ..
then some people claim .. or others consider them .. as those who have reached nirvana .. and are now 100% God ..
Buddha now is worshiped almost as a pagan ancestral god..
Jesus is thought to be God himself or part of God or one of the manifestations of God ..
and we beget "holy" men .. and clergies ..
because if Jesus can be 100% God then maybe the pope is 30% God and cardinals are about 25 % God .. and so on ..
what are we doing here ?? judging each other and ourselves and giving spiritual ranks ??? isnt that the authority of God alone???
so no need for the day of judgment then .. we know better than God and we can decide now who is all God and who is doomed to oblivion ..

what the bleep do we know really ?
who are we to get in that area and make up mini Gods of ourselves

ok you will say but God is both good and evil (llike some vedic people say) that cannot be .. Gad does no evil nor does he like it done .. evil is not the will of God .. evil is the result of our free will .. we dont call anything in nature evil do we? even hurricanes and lions eating lambs we dont call evil .. we know this truth as self-evident, that only our acts can be evil acts ..
and the danger in that belief is : if God is the the killer the knife and the dead .. then there is no point of fighting evil .. it will be fighting God or the will of God ..
but evil is to be fought within us and outside us because its the result of evil choices made in evil moments by free-willed people ..
if you ask many hindus they will reply as if good and evil are living in harmony together and both express God ..
the muslim view is diff .. to muslims the universe is in harmony but the evil of man is the out of tune notes on earth .. (thats why we enjoy being in "nature")
monotheism gives you a stronger stance against evil ..
unconditional love doesnt and wont ever stop or fix or make evil less ..
unconditional love is accepting both good and evil as being equal and the same ..
why dont you love your tooth decay microbes then and stop using toothpaste .. or your odor and stop showering .. why do you love cleanliness? why cant you love dirtiness unconditionally?
can you really love a guy who tortured a baby for months until it died?
if you saw him doing it i bet you all your beliefs youll smash his head off with the nearest hard object ..
because you too are evil?
or it would be because you are a good guy who cant stand watching something that evil happening without trying to stop it?
can you claim you were loving the rapist unconditionally in the moment the hard object was breaking his skull??

i dint cover it all up .. but i have to stop now because that was a lot of ranting *blush* hehe

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Arthur Cristian

What has this got to do with what we've just written. We are talking about taking FULL-RESPONSIBILITY for everything you/we think, feel and do. It seems you don't want to do this.

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Nigel Beckwith

That's a large assumption Arthur. I would prefer to hear what Mohammed has to say. I do not agree with it all but some I do. But will have to leave till later now. As for responsibility, any being growing in consciousness has to know that that is where they must go...and if any religion denies that then I cannot be part of it.

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Arthur Cristian

Its simple, bring forward the first party Mohammed - lets hear it directly from the tongue of Mohammed. Bringing forward a man/woman acting as an impostor of Mohammed is blatantly lying, is committing fraud.

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Arthur Cristian

This is NOT an assumption - this is FACT.

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Mohammad Soliman

sorry Arthur read up a bit ,, we were exchanging views about the concept of God .. and the whole status is about Islam actually ..
anyway sorry to hijack the post .. and Nigel was asking about the raltion between sufism and islam and sufism has a lot in common with buddhism and new age philosophy thats how it all branched out ..
sorry again

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Mohammad Soliman

huh? who is imposting ?? i dont get it?? who brought who ?

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Arthur Cristian

To us, ALL RELIGIONS/BELIEFS are fraud, are lies.

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Arthur Cristian

Are you Mohammed?

Is anyone around you Mohammed?

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Mohammad Soliman

us who ?
and Mohammed who ?
nmy name is mohammad yes , if thats your question

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Arthur Cristian

We are addressing the Mohammad of the Religion Koran, are you this Mohammed?

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Mohammad Soliman

no body is around me im alone in my room ? whats up Arthur?

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Arthur Cristian

Quran

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Arthur Cristian

Were you a first party witness to the MAN Mohammed and all the quotes related to this Mohamed that formed the basis of the Quran. If no, do you know anyone else who can come forward as a first party witness?

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Mohammad Soliman

sorry i didnt see your addressing of Mohammad (the prophet) himself .. and youo cant address him anymore .. he died 1400 years ago ..
my real name in real life is Mohammad .. many muslims have that name ..
and you judged all religions as being false while on of the major ones you dont even know the name of .. its the relligion of islam not koran .. koran is the book ..

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Arthur Cristian

Can you bring anyone forward who was there as a first party witness?

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Mohammad Soliman

thast not how we view Quran at all btw ..
Quran is not quoting Muhammad .. (to muslims) its quoting God .. qouting Muhammad is diff and has diff scripts .. called hadeth .. literaly meaning talking or speach (of the prophet) to differenciate it from Quran itself which is considered by muslims to be direct general divine communication to us ..

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Mohammad Soliman

and no i didnt whitness him saying whatever he said , his speech or Quran .. but what diff does it make ?

no nor can i not bring anyone of his companions .. get to the point

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Arthur Cristian

FRAUD. if you can't back the claims by bringing forward the first parties = fraud. = lying. = "The System" of a religion - Christianity is a system of a religion with all believers trapped under the image power of the fraudulent high-priests who act as an impostor/re-presentative of a God or a Jesus. Same with Islam and Judaism and Buddhism.

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Arthur Cristian

His-Story/Her-Story

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
2005-2006

Much of his-story/her-story, ancient or not, has been twisted and unless you can rout out all the lies/liars you will be thinking everything you are reading is true and therefore be brainwashed - nothing to learn from brainwashing.

Were you there?

Do you know any 1st party you can bring forward who was there? And we're not talking about a brainwashed drone coming forward acting under costume and title, or not, as a 3rd party re-presentative of whatever his-story/her-story they claim to be true.

Up to roughly 1780AD, 99.99% of the total population of MAN all across Earth could not read and write any alphabet language and never did. Even up to 1930AD still more than 90% of the population of MAN all across earth were illiterate to alphabet languages. Today's supposed 6.7 to 7 billion population of MAN, all their ancestors going back through all recorded his-story/her-story had NOTHING to do with recording it because they could not read and write an alphabet language - they ONLY had their tribal/village tongue/talk/songs/arts/etc.....

The ONLY ones who could read and write to record his-story/her-story were the owners of the castles, the land-lords, land-barons, the royal families, aristocrats, the high-priest-hoods and all their scribes and lackeys and they roughly re-presented 20 per one million of the population of MAN going back through ALL recorded his-story/her-story.

The victors wrote ALL the his-story/her-story and it's biased to suit their short and long-term objectives/agendas. It was ONLY these privileged "chosen-ones" who recorded ALL his-story/her-story so no matter what version of alphabet-language history you dive into it was recorded by them. This is FACT. It took the better part of 20 years to master the "craft" and "practice" of an alphabet language and this included mastering mathematics and geometry/sacred geometry - all read and write alphabet languages are crafted out of mathematics and geometry/sacred geometry and all are abominations, all are make-believe, none are real/true - they are not our true tongue.

We are all the descendants of tribes of MAN all across Earth who were invaded, raped, pillaged, plundered, humiliated, ridiculed, abused, decimated, destroyed, and vast genocide was issued all-around. What remained, mainly deeply traumatised children were brainwashed into their conquerors version of their ancestors his-story/her-story so that through the generations they would completely lose connection with their ancestral tongues and word-of-mouth truths.

These invaders first came as missionaries, scientists, botanists, surveyors, geologists, historians, etc, etc, and they came and went for up to 200 years recording/documenting the tongues, customs, ways-of-life, the natural environment, etc, etc, and when they finished recording all their his-story/her-story they then sent in their warships and armies to decimate the tribes. This happened all-across-Earth, all over Europe, Americas, Asia-Pacific regions, etc, etc... All the Royal families of Europa are all the "SAME" bloodlines and all are under the power and control of the Freemasonic/Satanic world led by high-priests/priestesses who created ALL religions, philosophies, civilisations, cults, sects, races, occults, esoterics, "system science", etc, known throughout all recorded his-story/her-story.

The British Empire, not the slaves/drones/commoners/serfs, etc, under Britain, is the head, "The Crown" of "The System" of the Western World who conquered almost all of Earth, if not ALL, and are still in power today. They control America (war over America's Independence was orchestrated by Freemasons on all sides - all working together behind the scenes) , Russia (Bolshevik revolution), China (took them 300 years through the East India company and the opium wars to conquer China - and are still in power all over Asia), Canada, NZ, Australia, Japan (thanks to 2nd world war), Brazil, Argentina, Africa, India, etc, etc....... all of it.

When they conquered lands such as Australia the high-priests.priestesses carved up all the lands into parish lands and put a church in every parish and a priest in every church to deal with the sinners (processors of curses). It does not matter if the church is Protestant, Catholic, etc, they are ALL 100% controlled by the Freemasonic/Satanic world and you want to trust their history, particularly after all the effort they went into brainwashing men, women and children everywhere leading to all the invasions and wars that murdered over 100 billion men, women, children - this includes all the poisons, toxins, chemicals, eugenics, plagues, pestilence, vaccinations, weapons of mass destruction, agriculture, eating animals, dairy products, processed wheat, etc, (highly dangerous to our bodies), etc, etc, etc, they brought with them throughout all their sojourns across Earth under the guise of Ancient Egypt, Greece, Rome, Babylon, Persia, Assyria, China, Aztec, Maya, Inca, Sanskrit, etc, etc.

All these civilisations had read and write alphabet languages, mathematics and geometry/sacred-geometry and they all had royal families divinely appointed by God, high-priest-hoods divinely appointed by God and the rule of law of God divinely appointed by God. WHAT A COINCIDENCE. Nothing natural about any of this - all require extensive brainwashing-education to understand the make-believe con-structs they all are. You can change the name royal families, high-priest-hoods, God, etc to EU, NATO, WTO, WHO, UN, NWO, America, President, Prime Minister, Director, CEO, Senator, Treasurer, Professor, Academic, Bankster, Emperor, Dictator, Caesar, etc, etc, etc,......... its all the same non-sense rubbish used under different guises throughout all their systems of civilisations. "All are of "The System", their systems designed to maintain power and control over their captive slaves, generation after generation after generation"..... this says it all. If you want to learn more about this please read and watch our articles, videos, etc, ............

In their recorded "ages" of their his-story/her-story, the late 1100's/early 1200's, they started creating English primarily out of hieroglyphics/pictorial-mathematics, Hebrew, Greek, Latin, and they called English THE NEW WORLD LANGUAGE. The letter j/J did not exist until roughly 1520AD. It appears j/J was first used by Freemason/Satanist Francis Bacon alias William Shakespeare with the word Jew. Words like Jesus came out of Lesus which came out of Iesus/iesus which came out of Isis = Land Lord/Land-Baron/Pharaoh/etc ruling over serfs/commoners/slaves/etc. NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

English was crafted by French Judeo-Judaic Architects/draftsmen of law, what you refer to as Gods - judges, barristers, lawyers, etc... They (all the chosen ones of their cabal) are the Gods of English. Welcome to Alice in Wonderland Through The Looking Glass - Welcome To Dorothy Down The Yellow Brick Road In The Land Of Oz.

ALL BOOKS ARE ABOMINATIONS - ALL ALPHA LANGUAGES ARE ABOMINATIONS - ALL NUMERICS ARE ABOMINATIONS - they were all crafted for PSYOPS PROGRAMMING - There was no other purpose for them. While anyone believes in this non-sense they have become the abomination too.

Find a book, scroll, papyri, tablet, alpha language, mathematics, geometry/sacred geometry, recorded history, not part of "The System" of those/any recorded "ages". Can you do that? If you can't then this clearly reveals to you DARKNESS VISIBLE, demonstrating just how big this grand deception is and has been.

Every letter (image) of all alpha languages are incantations designed to craft "spells" set into motion by fallen/conned-MAN.

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Mohammad Soliman

can you bring julius caeser to this chat? or any of his companions ?
FRAUD .. there was no great rome nor was prutus nor was a civil war nor a conspiracy nor an assasination and cleopetra is just a work of hollywood done by the back then very hot liz tylor

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Arthur Cristian

Were you there?

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Mohammad Soliman

and you dont seem to have read all i wrote .. i was high gear on ibnventing holy men or bestaowing holliness onto anyone or anything but God ..
and it seems your knowledge of Islam is very limited and like many many atheist westerners just assume it must be similar to the christianity you have (which is a roman thing and is diff from the original christianity a looooot)
actually islam is about ridding the religion of God of all these man made corruptions to the original messages and practices of the universal religion of God ..
muslims dont beleieve Islam is a religion that started with Mohammad ..
they view Islam as the religion of God .. the divine message that was sent over and over to all nations all around the world .. and people corrupt this divine message, thus there are diff religions that contradict each other on some or most points ..
and Islam is not an "organized" religion nor can it become organized .. and even the prophet himself we dont think of him as holy even partially ..
what if i told you there are actually verses in Quran saying exactly what you dont like about "religions" and saying these are human and satanic corruptions to the truth and are manipulations by greedy power hungry people ??

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Mohammad Soliman

anyway i continue later coz i have another errand to do ..
peace be upon you all

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Mohammad Soliman

forgot to say i didnt read your last long comment yet .. will do when i get back

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Arthur Cristian

The point is did you get all this information from a book or directly from Allah/God?

The most important point we are bringing to your attention is Islam/Quran/Koran is "The System", For example, copy pasted from a few recent posts....

Extract from this thread: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203866014838858 and this one too:: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10203838087060681

"I pledge allegiance, to the earth and to all beings which inhabit it and to the planet, from which it stands, ONE world under LOVE, indivisible, with peace and liberty for all."

Just what are those behind the New World Order trying very hard to bring in; "oneness" and "consciousness" under a ONE world government with a ONE world currency (electronic/cashless), ONE world religion, ONE world army, etc, and NO alternative for those who do not wish to live according to these dictates.

Is this where your allegiance is?

Definition of allegiance: "loyalty or commitment to a superior or to a group or cause."

Who are these "superiors"?

We are not pledging allegiance to anyone!

Commitment to work together come what may to co-create the paradise we all dream for but pledge allegiance - no way!

The "oneness" consciousness is a system construct, a cult of "The System". One is finite, limited, is both a third party and of a third party. A clear blueprint of the Satanic/Freemasonic agenda, requiring belief, faith, associated opinion, "educated-slaves and rulers". Just what we have now!

ONE is also limited liability/responsibility because there is a higher power behind ONE, a higher power that is a man-made con-struct/con-cept as in Govern-MEN-t, Federation, Council, Order, Union, etc. The ONE is the higher power. ONE is a man-made image imposed on another MAN. ONE is a lie.

To us it is WHOLE/WHOLENESS and not ONE. One is duality - is a reflection/shadow of a con-struct/con-cept educated into you becoming the echoes of demonic 3rd party shadows/reflections bouncing to and fro between your ears. Wholeness has no reflections, no shadows. Wholeness does not require education/instruction/explanation while "one" does. Children not got at (brainwashed) have a direct experience of the wholeness of nature/earth/MAN but with "one" it requires a 3rd party educator/instructor/explainer to our innocent children and these non-sensory images forms the duality of 3rd party "one" bouncing to and fro between your ears as that 3rd party reflection. THIS IS DUALITY.

The "God" of Christianity, Judaism, Islam, etc, is the higher power of ONE "God" behind "The System" that rules all the believers in everyday practical-sense. God is a man-made hierarchical system of high-priest-HOODS brainwashing everyone (educated-slaves) under their ONE GOD Image Power. Same with "ONE CONSCIOUSNESS", "ONE EARTH", "ONE PLANET", etc, etc, there is a hierarchy re-presenting the higher power of ONE over everyone in the form of a Uni-Verse-All Federation, Council, Society, Govern-Men-t, Union, etc, etc..... WHO THE HELL ARE THE PEOPLE BEHIND THIS "ONE"??????????????

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Arthur Cristian

Do you fully-comprehend the Psyops Programming going on that cons believers into "The System" to be ruled by the "authorities/re-presentatives" of that religion/faith????

All of this is FRAUD and no one is taking full-responsibility for everything they think, feel and do.

All the while the brainwashed believers (educated-slaves) practice their daily rituals they are being ruled by "The System" of high-priests/priestesses, the slave-masters - this is FACT.

Does it matter what religion or faith is discussed when those who discuss the virtues of one religion or faith over another are all presently slaves to "The System" that rules them throughout their whole lives???

What is more important, true freedom for all of MAN or the continuation of religions/faiths to keep everyone enslaved???

As you said: and no i didnt whitness him saying whatever he said , his speech or Quran .. but what diff does it make ?" and "no nor can i not bring anyone of his companions .. get to the point"......... ARE YOU A SLAVE?

THE FACT IS YOU ARE A SLAVE and the religion/faith you have MAKES YOU A SLAVE.

Hence, all religions/faiths are FRAUD, are LIES. Lost into the religion/faith, no one is taking full-responsibility for everything they think, feel and do. THIS IS FACT. And this brings us back to full-circle...........

To us, God/Allah means FULL-RESPONSIBILITY for everything we think, feel and do.. Passing the buck to a God/Allah is giving up taking full-responsibility for everything we think, feel and do. It is very simple. If everyone took full-responsibility for everything we think, feel and do we would be conscious of all forms of harm-doing/lying and not be party to setting harm/lies into motion. All else is bullshit, this includes all forms of excuses and justifications for perpetuating lies/harm-doing = religion = "The System" of lying/doing-harm.

For example: the thought of a God/Allah is not God/Allah - the thought of a God/Allah is just an idea made up by another man/woman telling you how to think, feel and act about a God/Allah. This is fact and is lying/doing-harm.

Whoever is educating innocent children into the thoughts of a God/Allah is not taking full-responsibility for lying/doing-harm to them.

Where can millions of innocent children not exposed to a thought of a God/Allah (not exposed to "The System" of a God/Allah - that is what religion is = "The System" of justifications and excuses) go anywhere in nature (including observing celestial bodies) to learn about a thought of a God/Allah without another MAN (men/women/children) already got at by "The System" of lying/doing-harm having to explain/educate/instruct them into a thought of a God/Allah??????

If anyone makes the claim of a God or Allah they need to bring forward the first party God/Allah to back their claims so that everyone can have a direct experience with God/Allah, first party to first party with all senses activated = lets hear it directly from the tongue of God/Allah and not from a 3rd party re-presentative of a God/Allah acting as an impostor of a God/Allah = lying/doing-harm = FRAUD.

Anyone who is really waking up can see/sense the depth of lying/doing-harm another man/woman will undertake to keep the lie/harm perpetuating. All forms of excuses, justifications, etc, DOES NOTHING to dispel the fact that they are lying and are blatantly doing harm to innocent children. They are not taking full-responsibility for what they think, feel and do. So unless you/they can bring forward the first party God/Allah to back your claims, we say, STOP LYING, STOP DOING HARM to innocent children = stop passing the buck, stop participating in "The System" of lying and harm-doing = religion = faith or belief or associated opinion in a religion rooted in the thought of a God/Allah.

How many religious believers are providing full-disclosure to innocent children about their lies/harm-doing while indoctrinating them into "The System" of their beLIEfS??????

Are they taking FULL-RESPONSIBILITY????????? NO-WAY.

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Arthur Cristian

And yes, "the devil works in mysterious ways"........ LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

You have NO DIRECT EXPERIENCE OF "GOD"/"ALLAH", etc, instead all you have is DIRECT EXPERIENCE OF SLAVERY. LOLLLLLLLLLLL

All your recollection of 3rd party storytelling of "holy books", etc, in present-sense, makes you, and everyone else infected by these lies and fraud, slaves to.

When you discuss your particular belief faith with anyone anywhere FIRST TELL THEM THAT YOU ARE A SLAVE AND THAT THEY ARE SLAVES TOO. Always helps to start with the truth of reality and then ask yourselves the question how does your holy books, religions, faiths, etc help you all be free of slavery here and now in present-sense? And if they don't show you and everyone how to be truly free here and now then throw them all in the rubbish bin where they belong. What is more important, your slavery or your true freedom?

It's clear for all to see/sense that your "God"/"Allah"/"belief"/"faith" is the God/religion/faith of your slavery and not of your true freedom.

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Rachael Wild

yes i studies Sufism,i love itxxxxxxxxxxx and i love you xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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Routing Out Psyop Programs Routs Out Intel Operatives + Exposing Max Igan's Psyop Program - Arthur & Fiona Cristian - 31/05/2014

The Cristian Family November 2006

Routing Out Psyop Programs
Routs Out Intel Operatives


Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 31st May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8524

Link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203677889935853

There are three parts to this post but they are all interconnected and all show how to spot the psyop program working to keep us in "The System" even while we think we are getting out of "The System". Facebook comments are posted below Part Three.

Part One

This is a conversation with people that we claim are INTEL agents, Mark Darwin of Truthology and Max Igan. It all started because we asked Ivana https://www.facebook.com/ivana.dirlicsindija/posts/10152427160663469 why she was taking our posts down from her Facebook Wall when the information we are putting up is to help people wake up to how they are being manipulated. This is what Ivana says she lives/stands for too. We also said that Mark Darwin and Max Igan were INTEL BIG-TIME, implying, why is she protecting them by taking down posts that rout them out. Ivana posted this (above link): To my Perth friends! Don't miss this opportunity...Freedom Summit is going on tonight in your neighborhood....And they are offering free tickets!!! Lucky you guys I went to see it here in Sydney and it was a brilliant event. There are some amazing speakers to be there ......Don't miss it!

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Ivana replied: Ivana Zara Dostojevski Max Igan is not intel......neither is Mark Darwin. You got that wrong, BIGTIME Arthur/Fiona! Bigtime! By the way, I don't like when people sharing their stuff on my wall as a separate posts.....if there is something you want to say related to specific thread feel free and post it under that thread, but pls don't use my wall to promote your messages....it's not cool. Ta

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Mark Darwin replied: Yes Arthur, I am intell and so is Max...... Mate you discredit yourself BIGTIME with such rubbish posts. Heal mate....

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We replied with these posts.............

In reference to this video posted here: https://www.facebook.com/jeanice.barcelo/posts/10203671779503096, Jeanice Barcello wrote today asking: Arthur Cristian - can you share more of your thoughts about the metal bowls? Do you feel the same about crystal bowls?

Hi Jeanice, everything of nature/earth/life, all sensory-life-forms, inanimate or not, has an ORIGINAL purpose for the dream of life - they exist where they are for that purpose. All we need to do is attune with them for them to reveal their true purpose with each of us.

This is very different to having your head spinning with stories about crystals, crystal healings, metal bowl resonances, etc, etc, not coming from these sensory-life-forms, BUT coming from impostors who hijacked the natural characters (information) of sensory-life-forms so they can impersonate them, to act as the 3rd party storytellers of information about the crystals that has not come directly from the crystals, etc, and making out that it does. The fact is this is a lie, they are lying, they made it all up and are the blind-spots making a terrible mess of our real lives.

Just as every grain of sand is unique/original, so is every crystal, so is every MAN. So how can we say that "quartz crystals do this and are good for that" when by doing so we are lumping all quartz crystals in one basket and all of MAN in one basket. Every time someone puts something in our head and we superimpose it on life, we are creating a blind spot because we are not communicating directly with the life form. This is how we form "The System".

This blind spot is a demon controlling your thoughts, feelings (turned/twisted into e-motions) and actions. How many blind spots do we all have, as we struggle to reclaim who we really are?????? We just have to keep recognising them and letting go, recognising them and letting go, recognising them and letting go, and trying to remain humble because we can be sure that the area where we put our noses in the air and either refuse to acknowledge our blind spots or justify them, are the areas where we are most in the grip of the demons.

EVERYTHING of the dream of life is sacred - not just the crystal spots, or the pristine spots, or a "special" tree. Even the land we have scarred and carved is sacred, even if it doesn't seem so because of what we have done to it. All the carving and scarring is the blind spots telling us that it is ok to carve and scar, which is why it is carved and scarred. If we didn't have the story telling of cars, non-natural houses, mobile phones, ovens, etc, in our heads, we would never think to have mines, or to create roads, etc. Same with mining for crystals.

The uniqueness and originality of everything in its natural, original and unique "place" is what allies with our uniqueness and originality too. If we are brought up by pristine nature, we are able to tune into the uniqueness and originality about everything and the uniqueness and originality of everything brings out the uniqueness and originality of each of us, which resonates back with nature. We co-create nature with our unique and original thoughts and dreams and nature gives us access to the unique, original thoughts and dreams of all of MAN co-creating with nature. This allows us to be present to all of creation to create our uniqueness/originality which expands the unique original dream of life with the presence of our unique original lives.

Imagine being a young child in nature without any system thoughts and stories in our heads; we have the natural ability to access all the uniqueness and originality of every life form of nature right here and now, the WHOLE of it, in present sense because that information is who we really are, it is our consciousness. And there is no "journey", no "ritual", no "training", to get to the information - it is there in present sense at every moment. It is only when we get blind spots that we disconnect from consciousness in present sense, creating "time", distance and separation so that we are no longer conscious of the information of the dream of life. It is when we are no longer conscious that we are able to scar, carve and destroy, unable and unwilling to sense the harm we are causing. We no longer sense the original unique purpose of what we are destroying. Our heritage has become an abomination passed on to our progeny. We have forsaken vast "parts" of who we really are.

Everything of life, from the ocean beds to the highest mountains, to the forests, to all the celestial bodies, to everything deep beneath Earth, is the breeze of MANS consciousness blowing across Earth to ruffle our hair and caress our faces, it is the warm embracing sunlight of MANS unique and original truth raising each of us in the joy and celebration of our elation for being the unique and original MAN we all really are. It is constantly present.

Untampered by "system thought", the blind spots, we honour, protect, celebrate, rejoice, nurture, and expand the uniqueness of our ancestors as our children will honour and protect ours, as we protect theirs by protecting them from system thought, the blind-spots. But alas, this is not to be - we are all deeply bogged down with storytelling blind-spots that are demons leading us out front with almost everything we think feel and do for a whole life-"time", destroying the uniqueness and originality of all of life. We are now the scarred and carved remains of who we were meant to be, of MAN. And people want to buy crystals that have been carved from Earth and sit "feeling their power" and performing rituals with them. Are crystals powerful? Of course they are, but in our present dumbed down state, we have no idea how to connect with them or use them to aid in our co-creation.

And here we are, creating "freedom" movements, trying to create freedom and truth for each other, all the time we are continuing to scar, carve and destroy MAN/Earth/nature. We already are uniquely and originally free, we just have to live it, be it (be left alone untampered to be truly free), just as all the information we need of creation, of our creation, is available, if we would only sense it, if our heads hadn't been tampered with.

How do foundations/trust/money/commerce/movements of freedom, etc, create freedom? They are just image power blind spots and this is what the whole Freemasonic/Satanic Intel world is all about - capturing gullible people through their blind spots, through storytelling from third parties, which is what the freedom/truth movement and all the INTEL agents involved is all about, desecrating our fellow MAN. It is full of men and women acting as imposters of a freedom (the thought of freedom is not freedom) over other men and women by claiming that their story telling of a freedom is the story of freedom when this is a BLATANT LIE.

How can you re-present another MAN and have the MAN still be unique and original? You can't it is impossible.

The freedom/truther INTEL agents come as rescuers, saviours, messiahs, etc, just as the Knights Templars waded into the Crusades, and performed benevolent works. They rescued those under a deeply traumatised image power problem to put them into another deeply traumatised image power problem. Nothing changed. The trauma, the blind spots, never left them.

The sleight of hand cleverly crafts its deception.

Everything about the freemasonic/satanic world is about Kidnapping MAN and putting MAN under the image power of their stories, their blind spots.

Nothing has changed.

This is blatant black magic because they are forcing other men and women under their image power of a freedom of their standing, their storytelling of freedom that forces everyone under their standing of a freedom. There is no uniqueness and originality of MAN here. It is still all about the "name" of freedom and we are just imposters committing fraud. One freedom fits all - this is communism, socialism, dictatorship, the Cesar Empire, democracy, the reincarnation of Roman Catholic Church and the Church of England under the Start Trek Federation version of freedom, aka the New World Order.

Watch out for the rescuers who come to lead you out of the frying pan into the fire. Watch out for Sacha Stone with his HUMANITAD, NEW EARTH PROJECT (Ushering In A New Era Of Planetary Innovation And Leadership - lolllllll), watch out for Frank O'Collins with his UCADIA and ONE HEAVEN, watch out for THRIVE, ZEITGEIST, UBUNTU, OPPT, SWISSINDO, ONE EARTH this or that, NEW WORLD this or that, ONE CONSCIOUSNESS this or that, watch out for David Icke, Jordan Maxwell, Kevin Annett, Benjamin Fulford, Mark Passio, Santos Bonacci ASTROTHEOLOGY, etc, watch out for FREEDOM this or that movements, organisations, like Mark Darwin with his TRUTHOLOGY and FREEDOM SUMMITS, etc, as THEY ARE ALL Knights Templar (Freemasonic/Satanic) engineered Intel bullshit. They are all blind-spots for the duped to remain blind to who they really are and what they are really part of. They are ALL shepherds to the sheeple, the duped.

With all of these movements/shepherds, everything is in the "name". It is not naturally expressed and lived in/of the MAN. It is the "name" Zeitgeist, the "name" Ubuntu", the "name" OPPT, the "name" Freedom. These are all shadows/reflections bouncing to and fro between the victims ears and they are all the blind spots keeping victims under control and pliant.

There are multi millions of men, women and children suffering under "The System", the blind spots, now being got at with the very same methods that got them in this situation in the first place, under the guise of getting them out of "The System". They are being provided with another system ("NAME") of "freedom"!

We are all unique and original, not one the same as the next, so how can we be provided with the same, textbook freedom?

This is a lie, fraud.

This problem is appearing everywhere now - remedies full of mantras that sound as though they are offering just what we need but are in fact only offering conformity and more image power, the blind spots. Again, we are relying on others to provide us with Freedom through the "name" Freedom, rather than taking FULL-responsibility for our lives in present-sense. Best we are all left alone to recreate our real-lives uniquely.

To expand on these themes in greater detail please read this post http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514 and follow the sequential order links provided to other Love For Life articles and videos which collectively provide the big-picture we see/sense, particularly these posts, listed below.

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At this link: https://www.facebook.com/kipper/posts/10203671756662525

Capri Adirim posted this comment:

Sacha Stone Beyond Time, Money & Fear - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKVT1p18-o4&feature=share
New Earth Founder Sacha Stone interviewed by CNW TV in Belgium. This short (graphically animated) interview outlines the New Earth vision and it's zero-point dimension. Please SHARE this widely and join the rising chorus of sovereignty and consciousness-in-action.

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We replied......

The World is "The System" - no such thing as "Old" Earth and "New" Earth - If we accept, honour, protect, nurture and celebrate uniqueness/originality of everything and don't interfere whatsoever then there is no "old" or :new" - just creation/co-creation of life from instant to instant of our every breath.

Some of the Humanitad members are Intel, people like Jerry Prus & John Walsh - He is revealing his part in the NWO ---- he says..... in reference to Chile "held in the protectorate in the "trust" outside the jurisdiction of any nation state under pure law".

WHAT A LOAD OF SPIN-DOCTORING BULLSHIT THIS. IS.... "UNDER PURE LAW".

What Pure Law?

Whose Pure Law?

And who were the legal-papers filed to/with?

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Capri Adirim replied

Arthur he said 'pure law' is individual law. We each choose individually. "Do no harm" imho should be universal.

Arthur, I am sure even within your own home their are 'rules' such as keep the toilet seat down, keep the music at a level that does not disrupt other members of the family that say are trying to sleep/nap etc. etc. Ones 'job/rule' may be that one takes out the garbage while the other does dishes etc. Unless we live completely autonomous (no other human beings around to interact/commune with) then in reality we can't really 'do as we please'.

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We replied................

And who is this lawful legal authority, based in pure law, with the power/force to protect this community?

Sounds like the Federation (NWO) of Star Trek coming together behind the scenes. Watch out..... anyone who believes this shit is being had, are being led down another yellow brick road.

And has faculties for "economics"!

And much of the infrastructure are dead corpse buildings requiring "The System" to build, maintain them etc..... The NWO is a cashless economy which AND he supports "Virtual Government" ----- UNDER UNIVERSAL LAW..... LOLLLLLLL etc, etc..... This is not a remedy whatsoever.

He also says "the mask is almost off and once that mask falls and the emperor is found to have no clothes standing behind the curtain the "world" is going to change very very quickly......"

Would love to have a discussion with him". He wrote to us a few years ago. He never answered the questions we raised with him back then.

This post is expanding on what we wrote to Jeanice Barcello as posted above:

They are BLIND SPOTS Capri...... there is no such thing as "individual law" and "universal", again this is "NAME" "individual law" and "NAME" "universal", implying "NAME" do no harm "uni-verse all law" and implying "NAME" "FREEDOM"

Remember the stuff we put up about phonetics: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203667898126064 (there are a few of the same post floating around, this is just one of them)

Universe = UNI - VERSE - ALL = brainwashing = blind spots.

Individual = In Divide U All = brainwashing = blind spots.

Uni = ONE = a combining form occurring in loanwords from Latin (universe ), used, with the meaning “one,” in the formation of compound words (unicycle ) - NOTICE THE WORD "LOAN-WORDS" MEANING NOT YOURS and CHOICE - THIS IS NOT FREEDOM.

Verse = metrical composition; poetry, especially as involving metrical form. a particular type of metrical line: a hexameter verse. a succession of metrical feet written, printed, or orally composed as one line; one of the lines of a poem. (not in technical use) a stanza. MEANING = CONTRIVED, MECHANICAL, PRE-DETERMINED = this is not freedom - this is CHOICE! You did not dream, invent and manufacture the car, you just learnt to drive and started driving it. Again, this is not freedom, this is choice.

All = the whole of (used in referring to quantity, extent, or duration): all the cake; all the way; all year. the whole number of (used in referring to individuals or particulars, taken collectively): all students. the greatest possible (used in referring to quality or degree): with all due respect; with all speed. every: all kinds; all sorts. any; any whatever: beyond all doubt. MEANING = ONE SHOE FITS ALL FOREVER = ONE SYSTEM (many system thoughts in one system = law - individual law, pure law, universal law and all other bullshit laws conjured up) - THIS IS ABSOLUTE - THIS IS ALL THE CHOICES YOU'VE GOT - THIS IS NOT FREEDOM!

Metrical = pertaining to meter or poetic measure. composed in meter or verse. pertaining to measurement. MEANING - RULES MADE UP BY SOMEONE ELSE - NOT YOU - Again, CHOICE - NOT FREEDOM!

Measurement = the act of measuring. a measured dimension. extent, size, etc., ascertained by measuring. a system of measuring or measures: liquid measurement. MEANING - THE ENCLOSURE - YOU CAN'T OPERATE/THINK OUTSIDE IT.

Unicycle = a vehicle with one wheel, especially a pedal-driven device kept upright and steered by body balance, commonly used by acrobats and other performers. - MEANING - YOU ONLY HAVE ONE OPTION = CHOICE - YOU ARE TRAPPED IN THE CYCLE OF THE UNI ---------- VERSE

In = (used to indicate inclusion within space, a place, or limits): walking in the park. (used to indicate inclusion within something abstract or immaterial): in politics; in the autumn. (used to indicate inclusion within or occurrence during a period or limit of time): in ancient times; a task done in ten minutes. (used to indicate limitation or qualification, as of situation, condition, relation, manner, action, etc.): to speak in a whisper; to be similar in appearance. (used to indicate means): sketched in ink; spoken in French. MEANING = Inside the enclosure, the word spells of "name" that imprison you, which all comes from education. You have had 20 years + experience of system thought to prepare you for the "name" words of Sacha, etc. Very few of us have original thoughts. This is all black magic in action, compelling you to perform under these word spells of "name".

Divid (in prescriptions) divide. In Latin, divid means divide

Divide = to separate into parts, groups, sections, etc. to separate or part from something else; sunder; cut off. to deal out in parts; distribute in shares; apportion. to cleave; part. to separate in opinion or feeling; cause to disagree: The issue divided the senators. MEANING = SEPARATION FROM DIRECT EXPERIENCE WITH NATURE = SEPARATION FROM WHO WE REALLY ARE AND WHAT WE ARE REALLY PART OF. Why else would you fight for the spells that Sacha is weaving? Blind spots keeping you blind to the "name" spells. All this is reaction to trauma.

U = You = the pronoun of the second person singular or plural, used of the person or persons being addressed, in the nominative or objective case: You are the highest bidder. It is you who are to blame. We can't help you. This package came for you. Did she give you the book? one; anyone; people in general: a tiny animal you can't even see. (used in apposition with the subject of a sentence, sometimes repeated for emphasis following the subject): You children pay attention. You rascal, you! Informal. (used in place of the pronoun your before a gerund): There's no sense in you getting upset. Archaic. a. yourself; yourselves: Get you home. Make you ready. b. a plural form of the pronoun ye. noun, plural yous. something or someone closely identified with or resembling the person addressed: Don't buy the bright red shirt—it just isn't you. It was like seeing another you. the nature or character of the person addressed: Try to discover the hidden you. MEANING = THE IDENTIFICATION OF THE HUE-MAN WITH THE "NAMES" OF "THE SYSTEM" - THE REFLECTION/SHADOWS OF YOU BOUNCING TO AND FRO BETWEEN THE EARS THAT IS NOT YOU.

All = REFER ABOVE

Individual = They divide us with their brainwashing of creed, culture, nation, etc, and rule us with the choices they provide us to perform "name" in "The System" - You did not create the English language with legalese, its mathematics, its geometry, its university courses & careers, titles, standings, etc, you did not create the education, religion, politics, law, Hollywood, TV, Media, Advertising, entertainment, supermarkets, highways, transport, corporations doing whatever, etc, etc, AND YOU DID NOT CREATE "NAME". They are all just choices provided for you. THIS IS NOT FREEDOM. See the post on the Mountain MAN charged and arrested with eating food in the forest because he was hungry: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203666156282519

You are seriously mistaking choice for freedom here. Choice has nothing to do with freedom. Shopping down the aisles of a supermarket is not freedom, it is choice, its ALL BEEN PROVIDED FOR YOU BY OTHERS = slaves/slavery.

What you are seeing is a BLATANT PSYOP PROGRAM where you have been hypnotised to perform to suggestion, to move to your master's command, all the while in a deep sleep.

The extensive brainwashing you have already been provided with is where you use your choice for imagining "individual law" or "universal law" and with it, "freedom". There is NO FREEDOM here. Only sheeple go through the gates of enclosures of one choice of green paddock to another but they have no freedom because they were already enclosed and forced by sheep dogs, etc, to move from one enclosure to another. Sheeple do the same thing when shopping down the isles of supermarkets or driving on roads to petrol stations, clothing shops, etc, etc......

IT IS ALL CHOICE - IT IS NOT FREEDOM

In fact, only sheeple are trapped in the UNI-VERSE-ALL that is ONE STORY going around and around and around their heads, bouncing to and fro as shadows/reflections of "name" "freedom", but this is a blatant lie because it was really only a choice already provided for them - they were already got at before they were duped into believing they had freedom within the story-telling of the uni-verse they are performing/believing in as "NAME" "FREEDOM".

Working together as a team effort around the home has NOTHING to do with universal or individual law. That is freedom when all first parties come to the table to co-create their uniqueness/originality for the team effort. NOTE: there are no third parties coming in-between any of them, telling them how to think, feel and act about anything. A MASSIVE DIFFERENCE HERE.

We need to be really vigilant and discerning about the blind-spots that are making a mess of our lives as we think/believe they are part of our true-freedom, when the FACT is, they were choices, and nothing more, meaning there is no freedom to be found there = YOU HAVE NO FREEDOM.

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We then posted all of the above on Ivana's thread and then posted this comment

Mark, please show us in all your work and in all Max's work, where you are providing freedom and not choice and that you are not providing the "names" of freedom and manipulating and using and abusing many, many people in the "name" of freedom, when it is only choice masquerading as freedom. How many curses are you manipulating into processing in the "name" of money as they react to trauma? You probably need to do some background work into what we are saying to comprehend fully what we are saying but, if you are really interested in truth and freedom for all, we assume that you will leave no stone unturned, in case you are on the wrong path. If you can't prove it and you won't change your ways, then who are you answerable to, who are you working for? Who is your master?

There are many INTEL agents out there spreading lies and causing people to get hurt in the process and there are also many, many people extremely angry about many, many things and some of them are vigilantes who have no problem carrying guns and using them. They have been reading our work, and the work of others who are putting out information that is waking people up to the truth of how people are being manipulated across the board. Many of them have been watching the scene for years and we have been asked to join them, which we will not do because we are not into violence. They have been harmed in various ways and those who are out there in front, leading the way in the psyop freedom/truth movement, as well as though associated with them, will be sitting ducks when the pressure cooker blows. For example, someone like Ivana could be a target if she is associated with you and associated with the INTEL networks that have caused so much harm to so many. Even Stephanie is a sitting duck, and all the others who support you. This is true healing that we are offering you here. Pull out, save your lives and stop the harm, stop the lying, stop the blatant manipulation. .

Our commitment is to wake people up to the real tactics and more and more people are waking up to how they have been used and abused. We don't think you guys realise the enormity of the backlash swelling against all INTEL.

This is Fiona and Arthur both writing in all these posts.

The Cristian Family November 2006

Part Two

Exposing Max Igan's Psyop Program


Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 31st May 2014

Link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203726940962098

Note: We will be copying across the whole Facebook thread into this post over the next 24 hours and will be found below in Part Two of the Facebook Discussion section.

Arthur & Fiona Cristian replied to Max Igan

Have just re-read one of your posts Max and we note with interest that apparently Mark McMurtrie came to visit us and hear our accusations face to face and Arthur ran off with his tail between his legs and never went after Mark again. Where did you get this info. from? We had a phone call with Mark who said he would call in and visit. We said he was welcome. He never came. This was posted on the website years ago and we have had many debates with him since and have continued to call him out as INTEL. You need to check your sources Max because right now you are sounding like News of the World. See the posts below for what was happening at the time and that Mark never showed up. Check the comments sections too, because there is relevant stuff there as well.

In Fighting Keeps Us Fighting
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
A Reply To Deb Regarding Mark McMurtrie
Love For Life - 13th May 2010
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7315

[Ab]originals Denied Self-Determination
An Invitation To Brave Souls
To Co-Create Community With
Clan On Traditional Land

Love For Life - 30th September 2010
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7469

A Facebook Discussion About OPPT
Involving Arthur & Fiona Cristian,
Chris Mansergh & Mark McMurtrie
Love For Life - 8th March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8452

Address The Work

It is also interesting to note that your long post all about Arthur never once talks about the Love For Life work and where you can see problems with it, or where you think we are on the wrong track, and what you like about it and where you think it could be improved. NO MENTION whatsoever. So what do we conclude from this, especially as you have never addressed our work, only made stabs at Arthur, always leaving Fiona out of the picture, even though she is heavily involved and is writing this. Do we conclude that you cannot find fault with our work, the insights and remedy, but cannot be seen to be agreeing with it either so having a go is your only option? Or have you never read it so you do not have an opinion of it and so can only make stabs at Arthur in an attempt to turn people away from the work you know nothing about? Or do you not want to address our work,not bring attention to it, because it exposes psyop programs such as yours and if you address this, you have nowhere to go with your work except to take it all down and give everyone full disclosure as to the fact that your work was actually only leading them to continued enslavement.

Back Your Claims

We continually catch you out with the claims you make against us, Max, but you never clean up your act, just avoid it and carry on until the next opportunity to do it again. We notice that you always come in performing as a third party, never as first party, never with direct experience but with "all the answers" acting as a man with "standing" and "authority" on the subject. Vatican programming, eh? Can you prove that? Can you show us in the work, with clear examples of our writing, how the Vatican programming is operating and bring forward the written testimonials of victims who have been hurt by our work? And can you provide us with evidence as to when the Vatican programming occurred? And by whom? And how? And for how long? Do you even know what Vatican programming is or is it just one of those freedom/truther buzz words? And if it is a program, which version is it? Which update?

Can you give us evidence of Arthur's Vatican programming from our work? Can you show us and others what it is in our work that gives you evidence to back your claims? Please deconstruct it and show us how it applies. This is what we do with you Max; we point out where in your work you are leading people down the garden path, how you are doing it and the consequences of this. Our work is all about getting MAN back to being free on the land, taking full responsibility for his/her life and not having a system to answer to, of any sort, no OPPT, no Ubuntu, no Thrive, no "name"and not under our image power or the image power of anyone else. Can you show us the evidence of Vatican programming in this? How does this aim benefit the Vatican, which will be no more when we are free as MAN on the land? Can you answer these questions, Max?

We continue to expose the psyop programs running in your work with evidence and examples of your words and techniques. You don't/can't do this with our work. Why not? Can't you find fault in it? All you have is attacks on the MAN because you don't want to address the work.

Remember, we are not attacking Max , the MAN. We are attacking the psyop program that you are peddling. Just as when we address the brainwashing belief system of a man who claims to be a Christian, we are addressing the brainwashing that is running you. To help someone overcome their brainwashing, you have to help them comprehend the program and see the harm in it without hurting the MAN. Unfortunately, many people operating out of belief systems think that this is part of who they really are. We know that the NWO will come in on the back of "Good Guy" INTEL operatives peddling belief systems with no remedy, off the back of the reaction to trauma caused by the "Bad Guys" who all work for the same Grand Plan, that being the continuation of the enslavement of MAN to their systems.

We deconstruct the psyop programs running in your work and the work of Mark Darwin, made plain for all to see. We gave you the link and left you with a simple question to answer. See copy of post below. And you can't answer just yes or no. Why is that?

Is it because, if you answer yes, you have to completely change tack, take down all your work as being misleading and make an apology for having misled people all these years. Then you have to stop doing things the way you are doing them and start operating as a MAN of truth who leaves no stone unturned and will always go where the truth takes him, even if that means reading long posts by Arthur and Fiona. You have a background in exposing the harm of the "conspiracies" of "The System" and yet you cannot see the harm in your work where it is pointed out to you.

The many people who contact us and thank us for exposing the harm that we see, have often come through you, as well as David Icke, Jordan Maxwell and all the big "name" players of the freedom/truth movement. They are often in disbelief at how clever the psyop programs are and this is why we point out that the greatest lies and liars are the ones closest to the truth because they cause the greatest harm of all. Truth is pure white without any black or grey spots in it whatsoever.

How far are you prepared to go with this, Max? We have routed out plenty of harm from the early years of our work and will continue to do so if we find any more. Are you prepared to do this with your work? Are you prepared to go where the truth takes you?

More and more people are starting to rout out the grey now to get back to the pure, sincere, uncorrupted white, the true path of no harm which we will not compromise and which is no system and full responsibility, no passing the buck. Don't you live for this? If you do, why are you packaging our work as Vatican programming when you can see that the end result is Kindom, as clearly explained in our work in great detail, over and over again. If Vatican programming is no system, no education, no image power and returning to Kindoms where nature brings up our children and everyone has their unique dreams and thoughts, then Vatican programming is what we are peddling. LOLLLLLL

If you say no to the question we posed you and Mark Darwin, you are going to end up in the same spot as you are now because we will keep challenging you until you can back your claims with first party evidence. As we keep saying, we would welcome the opportunity to show you where in your work you are committing fraud and you can show us where you find fault in our work. Why don't you bring Mark McMurtrie, Kate of Gaia, Mark Darwin, Mark Pytellek and anyone else you want along too. It is not about getting on the Max Igan Radio Show because frankly we don't care whether you have us on your show or not. Why not do it independently on neutral ground, film it live for all to see?

If you are interested in "open discussion" why not have us on the radio show anyway. All your conditions have given you the perfect back door to never have us on the radio show because you can continue to protest that we haven't met your conditions, even though we are blue in the face from doing so!!!! This is more cat and mouse. If you want to have us on your radio show because you like to give all views a chance and are not afraid of open discussion going where the truth takes us, great. If you want us to fit into your boxes and perform to your conditions, we are not interested. Why don't you ask your listeners if they would like to have us on?

Or do as you put up in a post; take a drive down here and have a chat face to face. We have nothing to hide and nothing to be afraid of. You are welcome to visit and we will feed you good food and give you a place to sleep and treat the MAN with respect but we will not sit and nod our heads if we do not agree with what you say. We don't hate anybody and you are our brother, which is why we ignore your aggression, your name-calling and attempts to control how others think about us and our work. This is all just trauma, Max, controlled opposition, and what keeps us all apart.

Until we see you face to face, let us explain again the importance of comprehending the difference between third party information and first party information.

The Conflict Of First Party And Third Party

We will go into this so that it is fully explained and we can show you how you create conflict. We are showing you first party evidence of your complicity with third party tactics and what we do is show people how this works so that they learn to recognise when they are being smooth talked by system shepherds/shills and when conflict is being created that makes them unsure and puts doubt into their thoughts so that they feel helpless and powerless and need someone else to tell them what to do and how to think, feel and act, leading them down the Yellow Brick Road to the Land of Oz where they and all their ancestors have been for many generations, trapped in "The System", under the traumatic spells of the psyop programs.

You refer to Arthur as a "spell master". Well, we know a fair amount about the codes of the English language, the phonetics, etymology and cryptography, and we have learned how the psyop programs derived from these constructs (image power) are used as man-made demons (thought forms/non-sensory make believe images) to compel MAN to perform the e-motion of the makers intention. This is all about trauma and reaction to that trauma, which is the spell. The demon is actually the trauma, no different to the software program that controls the performance of the robot.

Over the years, we have made it very clear that we do not "spell" and we are not "spellers" because we don't write in third party to re-present a first party because this is then a psyop program of the "spell" set into motion by the victims who are never provided with full disclosure of the deceit. If we did do this, it would be clear evidence of fraud and lying in plain sight, which would then beggar the question as to our motives. You won't find this in our work but we see this deception all through your work and the work of Kate, Mark Darwin, etc. All of it is blatant "spelling" = psyop programs = hypnosis/hypnotic suggestions = a drone's program set into motion.

We don't have another language to communicate apart from the English language but we work very hard to let people know that the English language is a fraud and a deceiver and to let our writing show the intention behind what we write. The English language is a third party in itself because it has been put into our heads by other men and women, all third parties. People who have lies in their thinking and their beliefs cannot help those lies creeping through in their words, sentences and paragraphs because they are relying on falsehoods here, whether innocently or not, and so these is what are set into motion through their writing.

While we are stuck with this language, we have to use our senses to sense the intention of the writer behind the words. This is why we go to so much trouble to write in a way that makes our intentions as clear as possible, and why we get such a huge response from people who are waking up to the third party "spelling".

Just look at the post you have written about Arthur. It is all third party information of your dreaming that has nothing to do with reality. Anyone who came and had a first party experience with us would find it very hard to relate the Arthur they met and talked to with the version of Arthur in your third party re-presentation of Arthur. Are you not trying to put doubts about Arthur and the work we do into peoples heads without any evidence or examples to back your claims? Is this not your intention?

This is what the NWO INTEL operation is all about. Previously the programs put the "fear of God" into people but, with the downturn of "spelling" religion, other ways to create doubt, fear, uncertainty and distrust are in operation because if this e-motional conflict exists in their thinking and dreaming, they are easily manipulated because they are not fully conscious and do not see the harm in creating their lives out of this kind of thinking. There are plenty of e-motional blind spots for the INTEL operatives to slip in behind the black curtains of the e-motion and mislead people through stealth.

If you train a horse through harsh, painful methods, the horse is always under the power of the fear that you have created in the horse. In the same way, if people are manipulated into fear and trauma, they are always under the pull of that e-motion which acts as a form of domination. This is why we say beware of those who peddle aggression and violence the way Kate does, and what you have done in threatening to come down "do it the old fashioned way, man to man". You are threatening physical violence, which is never the answer to anything. Or were you suggesting having a hug and a laugh?

Imposing Your Image Power

Max, we expose DARKNESS VISIBLE. Let's delve a little deeper into your use of third party constructs.....

Let's start here - Use SENSE (1st party) and NOT NON-SENSE (3rd party).

The idea of freedom is third party (non-sense). You were pushing OPPT, Ron Paul, Universe, Planet, etc, etc, which is all about 3rd party, not first party. There is no direct experience. Any remedy or dealings in law is also third party. We got caught up in the law stuff too, but we dropped it when we realised that you can't force someone under another's image power, which you have to do when teaching people about legal "remedy", etc.

A child brought up on nature never thinks of the "idea" of freedom because he/she already is free. He/she does not have "not free" in his/her consciousness so freedom is never an idea not in his/her life. For them to comprehend the construct that is the idea of freedom, they have to be already enslaved, already a victim of system brainwashing.

The whole of "The System" is about forcing men and women under someone else's image power, third party explanations about everything of their relationship with everything so that we are always looking through the eyes of another MAN, never learning through direct experience, first party to first party, and where has that got us?

It is impossible to create "The System" without doing this, be it through overt or covert means.

We are all unique and original, not one the same as the next, each to our own skin, so how can we all be forced under the same image, third party?

If you comprehend this and you are who you are and we are who we are, why did you try to impose your image power, third party, over us, first party, and Anastasia, first party, by claiming that you knew what happened between Arthur and Anastasia when you were not present as a first party? This is blatant evidence of you acting as a third party impostor of Anastasia and Arthur and setting off the conflict through your storytelling as an impostor in the performance of Arthur and Anastasia to set doubt in the brains of all those who were reading the posts. (Link below)

There was no first party evidence coming forward to back your claims and this scenario is common throughout "The System", where people tell stories about other people, even though they have no first party experience of what they are talking about. This is more examples of third party explanations and explanations so that we are always experiencing the programming of the intentions behind the psyop programming that sets the duped down the road that the master manipulators have determined for them. We do to a lot of trouble to expose these tactics and you call this Vatican programming.

To us, the controversy you tried to create around the first parties to the direct experience, Arthur and Anastasia, was a blatant attempt by you acting as a third party to discredit us by introducing doubt into your performance of Arthur and Anastasia and making it out as if that performance was coming from us, from our dreams and intentions when the fact is, you made it all up as a third party and have never apologised for doing so, or made whole with anyone who may have been affected by those posts. Were you concerned that what we were sharing would cause harm and damage in people's lives? This leads to the question; Do you practice black magic? Are you psychic? Do you have an all-seeing-eye? Are you trained to remote view, remote project and remote control?

Remember you have full responsibility to maintain honesty, integrity and sincerity because you have a large influence on public thinking, as we do, and this was carried out in the public arena in the "name" of Max Igan and the "names" of Arthur and Anastasia and, by association, Fiona.

This is clear evidence of fraud and lying and using your hypnotic, persuasive influence to carry it out. WHAT MORE EVIDENCE DO YOU WANT? This is in plain sight. This is DARKNESS VISIBLE. Senses, direct experiences, do not lie, though anyone can twist the story of a direct experience. If you weren't trying to discredit us, why bring any of this up when you don't even know us or live with us? What gave you the reason to do this? Fair enough to say if you don't know if it is true or not, but coming out and attacking us is a different ball game. To us, it is clear that you tried to use your influence to discredit us. Does not a priest or a politician try to influence his flock? This is also slander.

Before we move on, we already explained all your claims of us "backstabbing" you in the post below so we suggest you go back over it because you are still trying to influence people e-motionally about this. As we explained, many people over the years have asked us privately for our opinion of you and we have told them that you support "The System" and have no remedy to offer that gets us all out of "The System" forevermore. From the Australian Constitution to Ron Paul to the OPPT. It's all system stuff leading to more systems. No freedom on offer.

Max Igan & The Fraud Of The OPPT
(One Peoples Public Trust)

Facebook Discussion With Arthur & Fiona Cristian
17th to 19th February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8357
Do a search inside this pageboy for this
"Max, in private, to people who rang us asking about our opinions, views, insights,"
to find the post where we explained this "backstabbing you" claim/non-sense.

It's All In Your Work

We expose the lies in your work because we show all the third party constructs that you cannot back because you cannot bring forward first party evidence that they exist. And when we ask you about it, you do not want to talk and nor does anyone else spouting third party rhetoric. If you were a MAN of truth, would you not leave no stone unturned in your search for truth and stand for that? And if you comprehend the third party/first party situation, why haven't you stopped doing it and stopped the lies you are spreading. But you haven't. So why do you continue along this path? If you do not have an agenda that is NOT truth, why do you keep going on the path of not truth, meaning why do you keep pushing third party constructs and making them out to be true? If you are a man of integrity, why aren't you going after people who are spreading third party lies as imposters, many of whom you openly support. If you have been innocent of this until now because you haven't read the posts where we explain this to you, fair enough, but, if you have read the work where we set out what you are doing, then you have no excuse unless you can show us clearly where we are wrong in what we say.

When anyone acts as a third party, it creates a conflict in people who have not worked out the difference between third party/first party and they get easily manipulated. When we put out a video explaining that this is the universe and this happened and that happened, it creates a conflict in those who believe this. If we bring up a child in nature having direct, first party experiences with life forms, there is no conflict because the child is getting their information directly from first parties. There is nothing to believe or disbelieve. This is very different between a man getting in between a man and a man or a man and nature and acting as a third party impostor of a first party between them.

The whole purpose of exposing the lies is to wake up to how we fall for them and setting each other free from each other, and to show people how they are being manipulated so they learn to recognise the tactics and free their lives from the consequences of those tactics. We are so used to the storytelling coming from third parties programming our lives that we are drawn to this spelling and easily manipulated by people such as David Icke and you who are trained in storytelling techniques. It is like being in the movies and having a script to follow. We no longer remember how to have original, first party thoughts and dreams.

We work so hard to break the spells because most people are sedated by the storytelling of people with influence over "public" thinking. We have never grown up from having people read us fairy tales. The scene has changed but the same tactics still apply with the "grown up" fairy tales being full of money, Oneness, aliens, ownership, and all system-based thought. The duality tactics continue; as in the fairy tale, as in real life. Throw in the trauma and you have created a slave to do your bidding while you manipulate their trauma to have them continue to create the outcomes you desire in the prison of the psyop program. Tavistock reigns supreme.

The Freemasonic/Satanic world operates by stealth, trickery and sleight of hand. There is no full disclosure of their intentions and agendas and outcomes. They like to keep their darkness out of sight and what we do is make that darkness visible for all to see. You know this to be true because you have been talking about this sort of thing for years, and now, here we are, pointing out the trickery and sleight of hand in your work.

Notice that we do not attack you the MAN, because it is in your work that the harm is being done.

Darkness Created

Why do we keep going on about third party and first party? Because the difference between the two is the difference between living in "The System" of hell or living in Paradise. As we have said before, if we tell you that the life form over there is a daffodil and is yellow and you place this third party information over the life form that you see, you are shutting down your senses that can give you a direct first party experience with that life form so that you can access all the information the life form has to offer you. Placing third party information over the first party information of the life form is placing the "illumined light" of darkness (non-sense) over the sensory light of our creation. This is what we are doing with all the constructs of "The System" that we learn about through the journey of our system lives, especially through our system education. What we are really being taught is the craft of spreading darkness and the craft of disconnecting our lives from the dream of life that is who we really are and what we are really part of.

Imagine a child dreamed for and created by loving parents and brought up in nature having direct first party experiences with all the life forms of life around. A child brought up in this way will have no vagary, no doubt in his thinking because there are no third parties, other men and women, putting ideas in his head about what he is sensing about the life forms he interacts with and causing him to doubt the information he is receiving directly from the life form. His thoughts about what he senses are clear and he is free to create unique original dreams that do no harm to life. He will have no thoughts about free because he is already living free and does not have to fit into the one-shoe-fits-all "freedom" of system constructs.

When we introduce system education that brings a whole world of third party constructs into the child's head, everything becomes cloudy. He can no longer trust his senses because the constructs and concepts he is being taught are non-sensory; they cannot be sensed by the child because they are nothing to do with life/Earth/nature that is who the child is and that he can sense because they are sensory. He now has to fit into the boxes of his education, including whether he is a man or a woman rather than just MAN. He becomes a living MAN being forced to go through a shattered reality, going from the perfection of the wholeness of creation to the millions of third party stereotypes the child must fit into to make non-sense of his life and everything around him.

The child has no direct experience with any of the third party constructs that make up the world that is "The System". They have no connection with who he is and as his brain is filled with more and more constructs through constant repetition, the child loses connection with the sensory information of life as his senses are deafened by the memorised constructs bouncing to and fro between his ears. Adrift from consciousness, and with no clear direction in his thinking, the child becomes dependent on the constructs that are the thoughts and ideas of other men and women and learns to live a life of limited liability because all the information that his head has been filled with is telling him how to think, feel and act. There are no longer unique, original thoughts and dreams in his head and those who created the thoughts in his head have all the power over him. As in the fairy tales of shattered reality, as in real life.

Just a year ago Max, you were promoting OPPT as being the real deal which is just more of the lies of a shattered reality. What we are asking for is to be left alone, all of us, so that we can get back to co-creating our real lives with unique, original do no harm thoughts and dreams, and you call this a Vatican program. When people go to freedom workshops, they are already shattered and when they leave, they are still shattered because the Tavistock program continues. They are continuing their enslavement to the shattered reality because they don't know how else to be. This is what Mark Darwin, Mark Pytellek and others are making money out of. We cannot educate others into freedom!

If you can imagine a large sheet of glass being shattered into many, many tiny pieces and each of those pieces being a fairytale for us to build our system lives with. We end up with a life made up of many, many bits and pieces, none of them unique and original to us, all of it imposed upon us. Thus we remain under the "spell" of all these pieces, too full of doubts and fear to be able to make sense of what is going on around us and what has happened to us. Our first party relationship with nature has been shattered which means that our consciousness of who we are has been shattered.

What we are about is exposing the lies of the shattered realities, which means exposing all the third party thoughts and dreams in our heads. We help people wake up to the source of the shattered reality and get back to nature where we can begin to put the pieces back together. All the conflict, the harm and the chaos comes out of the shattered reality; someone's idea of God over another's idea of God, the idea of freedom, of how to live with each other. People cannot be boxed under an idea of freedom. There is no freedom in this!

There is nowhere to solve this problem in "The System". All we can do is roll our sleeves up, heal the damage, learn to love without harm and set out children free in nature where they will not learn about ownership or limitations or limited liability. A child living with full responsibility is a truly free child.

The shattered reality is the darkness created.

Falling For The Lies

Cults, sects and religions come about because people are so used to other men and women telling them how too think, feel and act throughout their childhood that they look for people to tell them how to think, feel and act when they are adults. This is how we are easily manipulated and cannot sense that we are being fed lies that maintain and support "The System" that has no purpose other than to keep us enslaved to its makers and leave us open to falling for the next wave of constructs coming through, even though we may have become aware of the older ones. This is the ONLY way they can manipulate us. If we were all thinking clearly from our direct first party experiences and our unique, original thoughts, we would see the constructs for the lies they are and refuse to let them into our thinking.

This is why we always warn people about the spells of the English language and ask them not to believe what we are saying but to work things out for themselves. We cannot tell people how to be free. We can show them how they are being manipulated into slavery and provide them with a remedy to step out of "The System" so that they can then contemplate and work things out, re-learning how to trust their senses and have the direct experiences with consciousness so that they remember who they really are and begin to create their unique, original lives as co-creators of the dream of life. Our challenge is to come together and set each other free from each other's image power. This is healing the shattered reality. The way most of us think now, we just look for someone else to tell us how to think, feel and act when we see through the lies of the last man or woman we relied on to tell us how to think, feel and act. "The System" teaches us to be dependent on the judge, the politician, the local council, David Icke, Sacha Stone, or whoever to tell us how to lead our system lives.

This pull between our senses trying to connect us with consciousness again and all the alien system thoughts crashing around our brains is what causes the conflict in our bodies and in our thoughts and feelings. It is what confuses us and has us unable to distinguish between the pure white of truth and consciousness and the black and grey shades added to truth to mislead us. It is the conflict between us being present in present sense to creation and someone else putting thoughts in your head that are reflections of creation that we cannot sense in present sense but only memorise to keep them echoing between the ears.

The freedom/truth movement is going nowhere because instead of people painting the picture of their unique original freedom that comes from relationships inspired by co-creating with nature without doing harm to anyone else, they are being manipulated into painting a picture with grey and black in it that are the ideas of freedom and are not freedom. This ties them to the intentions behind the grey and black that are to keep people enslaved and easily manipulated so that they accept whatever remedy is offered to them because they still haven't learnt to take full responsibility for their lives.

INTEL Operation New World Order

To us, it is very clear that the NWO is being brought in by an Earth-Wide Intel Operation performing Psyop Programs that stretch right back to when the Bible was first crafted into practice and continued on through the "self-fulling" prophecy of its projected "business plan", recorded in code in the Bible, and concluding shortly with its planned "end-times".

There are many recruited from "The System" music and film industries and all other enterprises, who now work as Intel. Collectively through the storytelling of their Psyop Programming, as first parties committing fraud, they are casting an interweaving net of complex, overlaying 3rd party re-presentations (con-structs/con-cepts/storytelling) that are blatant lies, used to con and trap the duped into the enslavement of a make-believe "freedom" performance of those lies, to construct the NWO prison out of their "own" making.

This performance is the continuation of "The System" under another feel good/god, cosmic-galactic, oneness consciousness guise led out front by the "Good Guys", who are all Intel wolves dressed in lambs clothing. What a scam this all is. We have been around long-enough to SENSE and completely trust what we sense without being blinded by the "illuminated light" derived from belief, faith and associated opinion in the storytelling of 3rd party re-presentations, all of it rooted in trauma and reaction to trauma. The behaviour of many of these wolves is carefully crafted to maintain the trauma, hence a lot of the aggression thrown out to anyone who dares to deconstruct what they are saying. The trauma is the invisible rope that binds us to "The System", even while we think we are thinking freedom! Reaction to trauma is what is pulling everyone towards the NWO. This is the only way they can pull it off. Refer to posts such as 'The Pull of E-Motion" for more on this.

There is no manual freely available anywhere across Earth that explains how the psyop programming works. It is DARKNESS INVISIBLE. This is where our work comes in - we are bringing the psyop programs into PLAIN SIGHT to make DARKNESS VISIBLE through what we expose, even though many hate us for it. Funny how those who think they long for freedom hate those showing them the door!

We are all unique and original and cannot become free by conforming to the image power of another MAN, which is what is happening with all the "Good Guy" shepherds beckoning to those yearning to escape "The System" but with too much doubt in their thinking to realise their free-will-power to live freedom day by day, step by step.

The Supermarket Of Choice

"Freedom" the system way is always through third parties and make-believe third party con-structs/con-cepts. It is like a supermarket where we can make a choice of whatever type of "freedom" we are allowed within "The System", not realising that the choices of "freedom" have been set up by the INTEL networks whose job it is to keep everyone trapped in "The System". They do not want men and women to have their unique and original dreams of freedom and do no harm set into motion in their lives because, once this happens, "The System" where they gain all their power, control, glory, privileges, etc, is no more. Hence the INTEL networks go out of their way to feed our doubt in our ability to be free, doubt about our relationships with each other and with nature/earth and doubt that we can do without "The System" supermarket, spoon-fed "freedom". We live to remove all doubt and cause a mass exodus out of "The System" in this life.

All the conflict bouncing to and fro between our ears is derived from doubt, distrust and uncertainty.

Third party constructs are not the unique creations of the men and women thinking and feeling them and, while they are thinking and feeling them, they are cloaking who they are in this illumined darkness. This is what happens to the men and women who attend freedom workshops and have someone else's freedom constructs superimposed over the unique men and women they are. They do not get freedom from these workshops, only choice, as we explained in the post about you and Mark Darwin, see https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203677889935853 The only way they can create true freedom in their lives is if they create it in present sense without anyone interfering or putting doubt into their heads about what they are doing, instead supporting and encouraging them. Freedom starts in our thinking and spreads out into the practical steps of creating freedom from "The System" back to freedom in nature.

As soon as someone else starts telling them how to be free, they are putting their lives under the image power of that man or woman and, while they are under someone else's image power, they can never be free. All the freedom/truth movement is offering people is another aisle in the supermarket of "The System" where they have a range of freedom/truth choices to choose from. True freedom is nowhere to be seen, just as real food is not to be found in the supermarket aisles of "The System", even though there are many choices of stuff pretending to be food.

Look For The First Parties

The freedom truth movement is full of men and women peddling third party information and third party remedies. Again, if you are not sure of the difference, just look for the first parties present. Christians claim that God is the almighty father; can they bring forward this authoritarian God to back their claims? People claim that the photo on the driver's licence is them; can the photo come forward and confirm this? We are so used to the complicated, convoluted system way of complicating everything so that the truth is veiled in a fog of non-sense information, that it is sometimes hard to realise that things really are this simple. Trust what your senses are telling you through direct experience with first parties, even if third party system science or religion have a very long, complicated explanation as to why your senses are wrong and why you cannot trust them.

The freedom/truth movement is full of men and women acting as impostors of a freedom (the thought of freedom is not freedom) over other men and women by claiming that their story telling of a freedom is the story of freedom when this is a BLATANT LIE.

How can you re-present another MAN and have the MAN still be unique and original? You can't, it is impossible. Hijacking other people's information to impersonate as your "own" creations is all about creating conflict and all about limited liability and nothing to do with full responsibility. If you make an animal dependent on you for food, you have taken its freedom to be what it naturally is in nature away. You have changed its purpose. If you make a MAN dependent on you for freedom information, you can be sure that he doesn't have freedom!

Even thinking about freedom tells us that we are slaves. If you continue thinking about freedom, you are still a slave. A free man doesn't think about being free. He/she just is free.

With all of these movements/shepherds, everything is in the "name". It is not naturally expressed and lived in/of the MAN. It is the "name" Max Igan in the "name" of freedom, the "name" Mark Darwin" in the "name" of freedom, the "name" OPPT in the "name" of Freedom, in the "name" of Arthur and Fiona Cristian in the "name" of freedom. These are all shadows/reflections bouncing to and fro between the victims ears and they are all the blind spots keeping victims under control and pliant.

Hijacking With Image Power

The black magic priests/priestesses behind "The System" are always on the lookout to infiltrate and counteract any genuine attempts to gain freedom from their power and control so they hijack any movements that come along. An example of this is the controversy over the Ringing Cedars books where Vladimir Megre ended up removing the rights from the English publishers who he felt were not re-presenting his work as he wished it to be presented. There is much speculation as to whether the books were the same as the originals and whether they have been altered. That aside, we can see one very clear sign of the priests of "The System" imprinting their darkness over the information being shared.

Disregarding the writing for now, the fact that the covers were changed to BLACK does not seem to re-present the intentions of Vladimir and Anastasia; there is no living nature set to the background of darkness and that's because darkness does NOT exist. The sun casts no shadow. There is no darkness even at "night" as can be seen by the fact that we can see all the celestial bodies, even after the "firmament" was terribly damaged and collapsed destroying vast parts of Earth and filling up ALL the low-lands across Earth to become ALL the oceans and seas, etc.

Everything of celestial space and bodies was hanging over MAN through the firmament (water of MANS breath expanding and holding the dreams of MANS creation), so say many tribal people as passed down through word of mouth from their ancestors and alternative archeologists and scientists. Anastasia and our ancestors could literally touch the stars because they are not limited by time and space constructs the way we are. Their speed of thought is greater, is unlimited, is unrestricted.

We can still see/sense ALL the celestial bodies, even though our communication with them is limited by the priests image power of "time" and "space" that puts everything into lineal thought (confined reality = shut-down-MAN)) because that is what we are projecting/dreaming as being true, who we think we really are, when all we are doing is putting our life force energy into apparitions to corrupt MANS dreaming in PRESENT-SENSE.

Slowing The Thinking

Anastasia talks about the speed of thought and how the priests needed to slow down MANS speed of thought in order to have control over MAN. The priests needed their speed of thought to be faster than MANS so that they could remain one step ahead all the time. Inventing the constructs of "time" and "space" is one of the confining methods they have used to slow down our speed of thought because, when we believe in "time" and "space" and a lineal reality, through their offering of education, we are in the confines of this apparition that becomes the rules of engagement of our whole lives with creation. Consciousness is shut out and we are prisoners in present-sense, to the fantasies that rule us as demons. Absorbed by this kind of thinking, we are no longer conscious of present sense and therefore unable to expand consciousness wherever we dream to expand it to. We have become birds with clopped wings.

Added to this is the fact that we are looking at the celestial bodies through the influence of all the third party storytelling (prosthetics) such as astronomy, system science, quantum physics, astrology, numerology/mathematics/geometry that we are subjected to from very young, shutting out all the information of consciousness (wisdom) that the celestial bodies (our ancestors) have to offer us.

This is the darkness of the covers of these compromised books. This is in plain sight. DARKNESS VISIBLE. Can you not see/sense the imprint of the priests intentions on these books carried out by all the lackeys who are still under the influence of the priests dreaming that they follow, that being the Freemasonic/Satanic world? This is all done through remote control, remote projection and remote viewing which means that the English distributors were under the influence of these black magic warlocks and witches to make the covers black. Someone has put these ideas in their heads.

MANS speed of thought is greater than all of this, if we are prepared to let go of all these demons. Our consciousness can shift anywhere throughout the dream of life in an instant but we have to let go of all the apparitions and not use them as a means of engagement with creation all around us. We are dealing with MANS dreaming here - nothing else is going on.

BUT the third party, dark-side of MANS dreaming wants to create a darkness through MANS projection of darkness as the combined force of all the apparitions the priests dream for us to set into motion to become the limited tools of our dreaming so that ALL celestial bodies (ancestors) cannot be seen/sensed anymore through our senses. Instead we look at the celestial bodies through non-sense, the apparitions/demons/constructs/concepts, projecting darkness over these creations, over them, because we are rejecting and forsaking them. We are disconnecting from the wisdom of our ancestors. What better way to control MAN than to capture our children in this educated, third party darkness?

To us, the celestial bodies are the consciousness of our ancestors creating the dreams of their lives as those celestial bodies through the water of their breath, the very water that makes us who we are and which we add to with our breath and what we dream. Remember, all our ancestors could "fly with the stars" and that's because the "stars" are the dreaming of MANS creation of the dream of life. We are creators.

Can you comprehend that if enough of us dream of this darkness, we will shut out the living dream from an absolute darkness in our image that will envelope all of MAN, leading us to total oblivion as we shut out all of life all around us? This is the third party instruction of spiritual suicide. Such is the power of our free-will. The strength of this third party, suicidal dreaming is the cause of so much unhappiness and lack of fulfillment in "The System" First party connection makes you feel alive and joyful. Third party disconnection makes you feel empty and sad. The dream of the freedom/truth has not been created naturally. The freedom/truth movement is not natural.

The Ringing Cedars books aside, Max, this explains why we are so swift to point out third party darkness when we see it. It is all the third party non-sense imposed upon us that cloaks us in darkness and keeps us confused and doubtful of our power to co-create the dream of life, co-creating light rather than re-presenting darkness. This is why so much harm is being done in the freedom truth movement when choice is re-presented as freedom and when man and women are left doubting their own ability to create light because of the constructs imposed upon them so that they go with the constructs that only create darkness.

Third party darkness is the illumined light in the dark cave that is "The System". People flock to the "light" oblivious to the fact that it is just a form of darkness and that the cave wall are still strong surrounding them. No one involved in this scam is going to make it because they cannot escape the consequences of MAN falling into third party darkness. The more MAN departs the dream of life, the more the dream of life departs from MAN until there is no more life in MAN and MAN/life is no more. This is the price we all pay for the actions of all those INTEL shepherds keeping us in the darkness. We work to stop this darkness from spreading to stop the annihilation caused by our focus on anti-life, removing life out of life which only happens when we deprive MAN of first party, direct experience with nature. There are no winners in this.

What Is Your Intention

If you are sincere in your desire to help people, you need to be honest with them, just as Mark Darwin and all the rest need to be honest about the consequences of following the third party work you and they promote. For example, does Mark Darwin explain to people that when they follow his methods, they are putting their lives under his image power and that his methods are all system based and have nothing to do with getting out of "The System", even though they think they are getting protection in "The System" and "freedom" from some of the obligations of "The System"? Does Mark tell them that a piece of paper cannot stand against the full force of the British Empire and that a trust or foundation does nothing in the face of this force and that trusts and foundations come from THEIR system and THEIR law and that they can and do change the rules of THEIR playing field as and when they want to? Does he tell them that they are paying him for not telling them of the consequences that will arise down the line? And we know that they do arise because we have heard from and helped many, many people who have experienced those consequences. Do you, Max, explain to people that while they may learn a lot from your work about how "The System" works and all the things wrong with "The System", nothing about their system slave lives will change because all there is is talk and no action, no practical, every day steps to free their thoughts, feelings and lives from system brainwashing? Do you tell people this?

If you were sincere about helping people to extricate their lives from "The System", all the focus of your work would be to help people see the practical, day to day steps they can take to create the food forests and the communities that give us independence from "The System" and from being underneath each other. Instead of educating people about freedom, we need to work together to take care of the land so that each of us have direct, first party experience with nature all around as we help each other. Through this direct experience and full responsibility for land, they lose the pull of e-motion to system ties and begin to be able to wean their lives away from system prosthetics, especially if they are raw food eaters. As they reconnect with the land, so they naturally reconnect with freedom and peace.

This Kindom remedy is the ONLY one we have come across that will work because every other so-called remedy we have seen promoted is always within "The System" and third party based. If a federation-type, global leadership comes into power, we will be witnessing the final capitulation of MAN to third party darkness that spreads across Earth as the greatest man-made apocalypse ever. Only a very few of us will make it and they will be those who are so conscious that the darkness will not come upon them. They will know where to be when the "time" comes. The end times games have got to stop.

Max: remember when you were pushing the OPPT and saying that it was the real McCoy and refusing to listen to any evidence that it is not? We won't go into it here because it is all available for those who want to read it in the links provided below, but this brings us back to freedom workshops and Mark Darwin.

They do not work and they are not a remedy. Freedom is not the intellectualised thought of freedom, which is what you keep promoting. Again, refer to the post on Mark Darwin and you. You cannot put the idea of freedom in someones head and tell them that this is freedom. So why are you doing freedom workshops that teach people about the idea of freedom?

While you keep promoting third party constructs and failing to bring forward first parties to support your claims, you are part of the problem, not part of the remedy.

Reminder To Answer The Question

Max; below we have copied the questions we wrote to Mark asking for clarification of some points. They have yet to be answered. In this post, we are clearly showing the psyop program at work and we have also clearly set it out in other posts. Either you do not read our work, in which case how can you have an opinion about it, or you are in denial of what you read. We always write as clearly as possible and your intellectual prowess is surely more than capable of comprehending what we explain. And if it is not, how about asking for more clarification?

Link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203677889935853

Mark, please show us in all your work and in all Max's work, where you are providing freedom and not choice and that you are not providing the "names" of freedom and manipulating and using and abusing many, many people in the "name" of freedom, when it is only choice masquerading as freedom. How many curses are you manipulating into processing in the "name" of money as they react to trauma? You probably need to do some background work into what we are saying to comprehend fully what we are saying but, if you are really interested in truth and freedom for all, we assume that you will leave no stone unturned, in case you are on the wrong path. If you can't prove it and you won't change your ways, then who are you answerable to, who are you working for? Who is your master?

There are many INTEL agents out there spreading lies and causing people to get hurt in the process and there are also many, many people extremely angry about many, many things and some of them are vigilantes who have no problem carrying guns and using them. They have been reading our work, and the work of others who are putting out information that is waking people up to the truth of how people are being manipulated across the board. Many of them have been watching the scene for years and we have been asked to join them, which we will not do because we are not into violence. They have been harmed in various ways and those who are out there in front, leading the way in the psyop freedom/truth movement, as well as though associated with them, will be sitting ducks when the pressure cooker blows. For example, someone like Ivana could be a target if she is associated with you and associated with the INTEL networks that have caused so much harm to so many. Even Stephanie is a sitting duck, and all the others who support you. This is true healing that we are offering you here. Pull out, save your lives and stop the harm, stop the lying, stop the blatant manipulation. .

Our commitment is to wake people up to the real tactics and more and more people are waking up to how they have been used and abused. We don't think you guys realise the enormity of the backlash swelling against all INTEL.

This is Fiona and Arthur both writing in all these posts.

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A Spell Master At Work
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
21st April 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8401

The Continuation Of The Max Igan Saga
21st August 2013
Facebook Discussion With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8478

The Cristian Family November 2006

Part Three

Facebook Conversation/Debate With Stephen
Aka Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone
Regarding Psyop Programs

Link: https://www.facebook.com/hisroyalslyness.gozaimasustone/posts/7554908411...

Arthur Cristian

Russell said: "Thank you Arthur for the expended effort to respond to the three of us in question. As expected, because of our collective demonic crap that you're suggesting, we were always going to be wrong. I cant figure out if you're a genius or a comic, perhaps both. Mate, you may as well befriend me/us, as we, including those who oppose your views and opinions, are not as switched on to the "ABSOLUTE" like Arthur Cristian. Well done. Good luck. You da man!!!!"

We replied...........

The reflections in the mirror of you are the storytelling of all the books, pictures, words, letters you have been exposed to in your role as "NAME" in "The System".

They form the story of Russell the "NAME" but that is not who you really are, the living MAN Russell.

You didn't create any of them and you didn't create the trauma that rules you, the distorted life-force-energy of non-sensory images bouncing to and fro between the ears of all these unnatural stories that you are unwilling to let go of.

Collectively they form the e-go, the demon, that is "NAME", Russell, the reflection of Russell the MAN in the mirror, and all this collective storytelling, the belief systems, becomes the act of the demon, the impostor, performing as Russell the MAN. But Russell the MAN is not with us, only the "NAME" Russell is.

When the "NAME" Russell comes onto this wall and posts what he does, it is not Russell the MAN, just the demons that are the spells of all the storytelling spinning around in his head that form his belief systems and have the "NAME" Russell fight and argue for them to protect and validate them to give them power with the MAN Russell's life-force-energy.

This is all the demon has to offer; there is nothing else there. This performance is a façade, is a farce. They are are just the shadows and reflections of the MAN Russell the demon has claimed as its "own"...... mine, mine, mine, "i", "i", "i", etc, etc, etc.......

How can we say this?

Only the MAN Russell can come forward to act the storytelling of the "NAME" Russell but none of the characters in the stories of these belief systems, the "spells", can come forward as sensory-living-first parties.

This shows you the depth of demonic possession in the "NAME" of the MAN Russell.

And the other thing to notice is that the virtues of love of the MAN Russell are not present amongst the living having been pushed aside because the demon of the "NAME" Russell is in performance and the demon has nothing to do with the virtues of love, of light, of the MAN Russell. If it was, the MAN Russell would come forward as a simple MAN of truth, peace, love, sincerity, purity of intention, etc, etc, without weakness and without fear of confronting lies and liars. You see/sense, the MAN Russell is not of the darkness, only the "NAME" Russell is.

The way to break the "spells" is by learning not to set the "spells" into motion, by recognising that the pull of e-motion, the reaction to trauma, is the "spell", the "rite", the "demon" on offer needing your life-force-energy to give it power. Ignore these temptations, do something else creative where you can set your life-force-energy into motion to benefit the dream of life, nature, earth, MAN, without doing harm to MAN, earth, nature, like gardening, playing with children, going for a walk in nature or have a swim, etc, etc, anything that co-creates happy, bright, thoughts, etc.

Eventually the habit is far more powerful and as you have learnt to completely ignore the demon it eventually fades away to be no more.

What you have learnt to do is stop being self-centred. The reflections of e-motions, the reactions to trauma, bouncing to and fro between your ears is not you, it is the demon acting as the impostor of you as "NAME" and everything associated with "NAME" is of the demonic world that is "The System" of HELL too. Once you have overcome this challenge, you have welcomed paradise back into your life where it has always been. We've just been asleep while the demons, the reflection/s in the mirror of you, run amok.

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Mark DuBois

Come on, let's really be honest here. faKebook is the demon and we're all addicted to it. None of us stand for jack shit, settle for petty agendas, love to bitch, support making Zuck a billionaire and contradict ourselves all the time.

It's the nature of our beast, within. And without. We're hopelessly incurable.

This fool has finally accepted that. ABSOLUTELY. And I'm at peace.

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12 May at 02:45

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Mark DuBois

The above is sure to start a flurry of meaningful dialog, right? Hey Arthur, can we expect to see another round of your famous cut & paste skills? I can hardly wait.

12 May at 02:57

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Mark DuBois

Has faKebook stock been going up lately? I certainly hope so. Blessings to you, Mark Zuckerberg for giving us this wonderful tool so that we can all connect with each other. You're such a genius.

12 May at 03:01

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Mark DuBois

And it's totally free of charge, too! Wow! What a deal!

12 May at 03:05

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Mark DuBois

Except that we sold our souls to the devil. I'm cool with that, are you?

12 May at 03:13

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Mark DuBois

Hey Arthur, I clicked 'like' above, but I really loved your post.

12 May at 03:27

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Mark DuBois

You have the faKebook limit of 5000 friends, Arthur. How's that working out for you? You must feel really proud of yourself.

I only have 23 myself. I'm never going to be as good as you are.

Congratulations!

12 May at 03:39

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Mark DuBois

And since I'm not nearly as qualified as you are, Arthur, I simply have to sit out and let your leadership carry us forward.

12 May at 07:01

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Mark DuBois

P.S. Love for Life!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdyTXBT5CQE
HALLELUJAH, acoustic - The greatest version ever!.wmv
www.youtube.com

12 May at 04:30

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Arthur Cristian

Mark, we have been involved in other threads on FB elsewhere and now need to get some rest. Its all in the intentions, if you sense our intentions you will sense where we are really coming from and heading. It is very simple. We use the fiction to get out of it ASAP, as fast as possible. "Community Immunity" is critical also and all this intentional work is explained in our articles, videos, etc. If you want to have a chat over a landline we're happy to call you at our cost in the near future and cover the ground with you.

12 May at 04:35

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Mark DuBois

I'm not worthy.

12 May at 04:37

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Arthur Cristian

To us no one is unworthy, is why we do ALL the Love For Life work we do since March 2005 for free (16 hours per day of almost every day, week, month, year) - we give it all away - we are not a cult or a sect, no one follows us and we do not follow anyone either, we are not into religions, etc, and we are clean living in every way imaginable bar temporarily using technology, electricity, etc, to communicate over the net and record music, etc, we are raw-living food eaters, we are non violent, we carry no guns, swords, spears, etc. All this is explained on any page (near the bottom) in the Love For Life website.

12 May at 04:42

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Mark DuBois

Of course, how absent minded of me, master.

http://loveforlife.com.au

12 May at 04:49

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Arthur Cristian

Walk the talk is walk the talk Mark, nothing less, nothing more. If you want to make things out to be more than that then that is your choice but that is of your making/creation, not of ours, not coming from our intentions. We are not your master. We are just MAN like you with issues still being processed BUT we go where truth takes us, we do not "own"/"claim" truth, otherwise we are not free, are slaves to lies. If you have truths to inspire us with then please do share. Also, there is NOTHING we are doing to harm you in any way whatsoever. Whatever you are "feeling" e-motionally is just your make-believe being performed by you.

12 May at 04:57

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Mark DuBois

You should get your rest, master. Sweet dreams.

12 May at 04:59

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Mark DuBois

P.P.S. I hope I can expect another post from you tomorrow . Your wisdom is so illuminating, I'm certain others desire your divine words too. Truer words were never spoken. Thank you, master.

I remain your humble servant.

12 May at 07:15

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Arthur Cristian

Every lie is a curse and every liar is processing curses and the processing of the curse comes upon the children, family, loved ones, grandparents, associates and other beneficiaries.of the liars too, this includes the pull of e-motional attachments to/with liars by whomever. There is now a separation of the ways going on between light and dark, truth and lies, no harm and doing harm, consciousness and unconsciousness, sense and non-sense and between eternal life and eternal death. We all have free will - its now up to each of us to choose which path to take.

12 May at 17:33

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Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone

If you do a thorough self psychological profiling re what you reveal of your approach with projecting and sharing your information, you may perhaps start to sense what you are not currently sensing re your own blind spots

12 May at 18:38

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Stanley North

hahaha Arthur at his finest lmao

12 May at 18:51

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Arthur Cristian

We never made the claim that we have resolved all our blind spots! However, we are conscious of them and are processing them. So you can't find any fault in what is written?

13 May at 04:36

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Arthur Cristian

"Self" has to do with "name" Stephen - Refer to what you wrote. It is your "self psychological profiling" writing. - not ours. We left "self" out when communicating with Russell because we are not interested in glorifying "self" ("name"). Exposing how "self" works" as a fraud/impostor is all we are doing here - we have no interest in glorifying "self". We have no e-motional attachment to any outcome. Fiona and Arthur wrote this together. The point is you are looking for something that is not there in the writings of the writers. They are just "claims" you make up but there is nothing there bar the make-believe of a "self" seeking to create conflict with reflections/shadows that ain't there, don't exist. with the writers. If you believe they do exist, then back your claims, please bring forward the first party evidence. and not the "self" acting as the impostor of the MAN Fiona and the MAN Arthur.

13 May at 04:58

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Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone

And does not your current real estate lease that you live under also involve a 'name', even 'names'??

13 May at 11:42

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Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone

Yourselves ARE the first parties writing writing here, no shadow of a doubt about that is there not?

13 May at 11:47

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Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone

Ok for the sake of your semantic subterfugue, let's change self to man/woman. The same thing still applies here. Can the man/woman who are 1st party to & behind these words actually face their shadow here & take full liability & responsibility without squirming out of facing it using semantic subterfuge? Just like when one learns someone elses musical style of phrasing, one has to get inside the natural mechanism of how it walks/flows etc. It doesn't take rocket science to get inside & understand by sense alone re. the way U guys project your information, the way the man/woman does. C'mon gimmee a bfreak, are we still in kindergarten here??

13 May at 14:50

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Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone

Your information isn't the problem here, in fact most of it is very correct but for the parts that U don't know everything, just like anyone else doesnt know absolutely everything, your approach to projecting & sharing your information is really not that different to how religious fundamentalists do their 'my way or the highway' thing is it not? Your overall whole approach in this regard could do with some diligent revision could it not? Cos at the moment your approach in this regard is doing more to shoot your information in the foot with both barrels....something I sense very strongly that the man & woman that be that which U is/are here need to seriously consider.

13 May at 14:59

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Arthur Cristian

Stephen, this Fiona writing and Arthur sitting next to me. Although you know full well our intentions as you have stayed with us twice, worked with us on music projects, read our work and had many discussions with us, let us set things out clearly for you......

We are like a large squad of police/detectives raiding a suspects home for evidence, searching every nook and cranny of the house thoroughly. We leave no stone unturned in our search for truth because we know that only truth will get us out of the hell that is "The System". If anyone can show us where we are wrong in what we say, we are happy to clean up and move on because we are not attached to the work we do, although we will protect it - we are just passionate and determined to do what it takes to get out of this mess, which, at the moment, has us concentrating on exposing the blind spots that have us create conflict and fight for our belief systems to the extent that we turn on each other rather than setting aside our belief systems to work alongside each other.

This is very uncomfortable for many, many people because their blind spots and their belief systems are often what they have been living their lives out of for years! Just as the house the police raid is turned upside down and inside out, so people feel upside down and inside out when they are confronted about their blind spots. We know this partly because of the e-motional reactions that come our way when we point out the blind spots and partly because we help each other with our blind spots on an on-going basis and it can be very confronting and uncomfortable BUT, we continue to point things out to each other because we are committed to coming out the other side so that we can co-create Paradise again. This is at the heart of what our relationship is all about.

We do this not just with each other but with Hannah too, who you worked with on Save Our Lives. For an update on how this process has worked for her, see https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203702985003214 Hannah has learned to surrender her blind spots and has found the courage to confront people who have walked all over her for years, and stand up for who she is and how she chooses to live her life.

Our commitment to truth is why we encourage people to leave no stone unturned as they go through the body of the Love For Life work to find a lie because if anyone finds one, and can prove that it is a lie, we will correct the error and add the latest truth to the repertoire of insights and continue going where truth takes us. And yes, we will apologise and clean up our act too. We are not driven by pride or shame etc...

Our intention is to destroy the psyop programming that causes all the conflicts of "name", including the petty character bashing you are engaging in right now. How does your post help us all achieve the peace and freedom we all dream for? Can we come to your home and see how it is applied? Or at least some practical steps being implemented.

The pure sincere do no harm light of MAN'S consciousness (all virtues of love in motion in full array) cannot have any spot of grey or black amongst it if MAN is to reclaim who we all really are and what we are all really part of and what actually is the path that guides us out of HELL ("The System" of harm) which also helps us to see/sense where and how our ancestors went wrong and ended up on the path to HELL without realising it. This will be the very path we use to depart HELL for evermore.

If we are not prepared to fully examine everything we think, feel and do and to rout out all the conflict in our thinking, feeling and acting, we will never co-create Paradise because we will be bringing all our system baggage with us, which means that it is not Paradise! The conflict in our brains is where the conflict between us begins. If we do not put the conflict to rest, we will end up with another man-made system of rules and regulations to manage our conflict, rather than communities of men and women who take FULL responsibility for everything they think, feel and do.

How does our commitment to truth resemble religious fanaticism? Or a cult? Or is it the demons between your ears that don't like being ruffled so they send you on the attack, ignoring the work and the intention and focusing on attacking the man and the woman, Arthur and Fiona.

Refer to these links that goes more into this stuff:

https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203667898126064
and
https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203666156282519
and
https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203670852759928
and
https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203677889935853
and
https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203666086280769
and
https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203585889075889
and
https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203584880810683
and refer to the Sequential Order where links to posts we put up this year about "name", "e----go", "spells, "spelling", "trauma/reaction to trauma", "all-seeing-"i"", "born in original sin", "sense vs non-sense", etc, etc, are provided: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514

It appears that all you are doing is trying to create conflict, rather than seeing what we can do to work together to create lives we all dream of, lives of peace, freedom, joy, etc. Conflict has no place in lives such as these so why are you putting so much effort into creating conflict? To make it clear for you, we are not attacking the man Mark Darwin, etc, when we point out what we don't agree with about their work. We are attacking the conflict that is contained in their work because they are trapping people in the story telling of their version of freedom that is a Russian Doll within Russian Doll of psyop programming with no way out. This is why we ask them the questions.

They ignore the questions which shows us that they are not pure and sincere in their search for truth and that they have agendas to protect the self glorification of their own make-believe self-fulfilling fantasies, thereby conning everyone else under that image power. The thought of freedom is not freedom.

You say,"Your information isn't the problem here, in fact most of it is very correct but for the parts that U don't know everything, just like anyone else doesn't know absolutely everything"

If our information is "mostly correct", then why are you having a go at us? If you would like to point out where our information is not correct, we would be interested in hearing what you have to say to see if there is something we need to learn, as we have said above. We have never said that we know everything, and we repeatedly say that we want to continue learning everything we need to learn to shake off the system shackles. Is there a problem with this?

As we always say....

"We ask you to NOT believe anything we say/share and instead use scrutiny like an intense blow torch and go where the logic of truth/sense takes you. This is very, very important. Put everything you believe up to the test of scrutiny to see how it stacks up. If you are true to your heart/senses and go where the logic of truth/sense takes you will find that NO belief, etc, will stand up to the test of scrutiny. They just do not stack up because they are lies/fraud."

Or is your problem just that we do not fit into the box you have assigned for us, where we speak and share information according to your dictates. What is it, Stephen? Are our sentences too long? Are there not enough jokes? Not enough of the right buzz words floating around? Not enough cosmic, galactic, "Oneness" glue to keep us all heading towards the NWO? Perhaps you could write us out a list of guidelines for us so that we deliver our message in the "right", politically correct way.

Have you noticed that we don't tell you how to express your thoughts and feelings? Do we tell you how to write? Or anyone else for that matter. We will always point it out if we think someone is barking up the wrong tree but we do not attack the tone of their bark or the fact that they are barking up the wrong tree. Why? Because that would be to attack the man or woman that they are, to seek to do them harm and to cause conflict. This is not what we stand for.

Or are you just on a "poor me", victim ego trip, distracting people from our message by attacking the way we write and the passion and the intensity of that passion because you don't want to face the conflict in your brain. EGO and INTEL indulge in this because they thrive off the reactions to trauma, the conflict they worship, going on between their ears which they can manipulate and control in others, causing everyone caught up in the conflict to continue the bickering, the nit-picking, the fighting, the division between us, in short, "The System"!

EGO and INTEL love looking at their own reflections, the self-indulgence of their own intellectual brilliance that actually is the conflict. This is how it works all through "The System". There are no virtues of love demonstrated clearly.

Do you not have the love in you to have the graciousness to give to others who are outside the box of your pre-determined expectations, your power and control trip, the conflict that you serve?

To us, it is clear that there are thousands of INTEL operatives appearing everywhere, weaving an intricate web of buzz words drawing everyone into the conflict of the NWO remedy. They are shepherds, the manipulators of conflict (reactions to trauma), herding the sheeple who have been conditioned over the last 40 years or so of New Age mantras to go quietly from the current version of "The System" to the next, that being the next conflict that ego and INTEL operators promote, as in Mark Darwin, etc. We are committed to routing them all out, at the same time as walking the talk as a living example of how we can live without any of this.

All we want to do is get people to see the harm and stop the harm. Apart from that we have no desire to tell people how to live or how they should act, talk, walk, etc. All our work is about setting us all free from each other to stop the rot, and this includes people not falling under our image power, which is why we are not a cult, sect or a religion and there are no leaders or followers. Refer to disclaimer below.

Are we perfect? NO. Have we removed our lives fully from "The System"? NO. Do we still have blind spots? YES. Do we have a goal and a commitment to that goal? YES. Do you have a problem with any of this? Refer to these posts involving Raymond Karczewski: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8414 and Gregory Williams: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203692712866417

All you are doing is attacking our characters which is exactly what Russell is doing but where, in all this, is the remedy to MAN's suffering? Where in all this conflict do you hope to create everlasting peace? How is all this bitchiness going to create truthful, loving relationships with each other? Hannah, who is only 25, is MILES ahead of you in all this because she is walking the talk while you and your blind spot posse just bitch and complain about us. Why don't you all drop the sarcasm and character assassinations and work with us to create true freedom, peace, etc., for ALL, not just an ILLUSION of freedom for those who pay money to Mark Darwin for setting them up a trust, foundation, etc, so they are alright, mate, but stuff everybody else?

Are you trying to manipulate e-motional reactions to us? Do you want us to conform to you, just as Mark Darwin wants people to conform to his story telling version of "freedom"?

When have we ever said that we are not still compromised by links to "The System"? As you know very well having come and stayed with us twice. Yes, Fiona has a lease with her "name" on it, as well as a heap of other system contracts and, until we have a strong community around us, this is how it is, unless we go bush. All this has been covered in great detail in our work, which you are well aware of. Refer to the Kate of Gaia post we put up yesterday: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203726940962098

Where is the evidence of our religious fanaticism in how we live?

The only place where you see religious fanaticism in the freedom truth movement is when you have people running workshops, charging for them and continuing the psyop brainwashing program. Sorry, Stephen, they may be mates of yours, but we will point them out when we see them. We heard that one so-called freedom truther is currently charging $150.00 for a phone call! Where is the truth and freedom in that? Where is the compassion, the empathy, the love?

Capturing Another MANS Uniqueness
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 17th May 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8414

18 May at 17:38

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Arthur Cristian

We haven't seen anything in your work, your writing, that shows how to expose the real psyop programming or stand up to the real psyop programming or free our thoughts and feelings from the real psyop programming. All your work does is maintain them because you work within it. What is your remedy, Stephen? How should we get out of this mess? Neither have we seen any thing in the work of Mark Darwin, Max Igan, Mark Pytellek that exposes the real psyop programming or shows a way out of "The System". See below for more on this.

All you are doing is trying to discredit us, trying to have a wrestling match with us, and trying to discredit the remedy we promote. Again refer to the post about Kate of Gaia. We don't come after you and point out your character traits that are less than perfect. Where do your loyalties lie?

People love to say, "Hey you're not perfect" but we never say we are. We do not put us in one basket and everyone else in another.

Are you just trying to save face here because it is people you are involved with that we are exposing? There is nothing we can do to harm you or hurt you unless you have a hidden agenda that you are trying to protect. Are you supporting what we are doing, as you can't find anything wrong with our work, or are you out to undermine us? Are you trying to protect the psyop program? If not, then why aren't we creating community gardens and community shelter with each. And some can be created in Sydney too. Freedom is a full time project, not something done between system drinks.

The Freemasonic world relies on keeping people in a state of trauma because then they need the prosthetics provided by the Freemasonic world to get along. THEY CANNOT AFFORD TO HAVE REMEDY BE CREATED. The old methods of keeping us trauma based, such as the church, politics, etc, are no longer working, so the shepherds of the NWO are introducing the new methods of trauma control, the mantras and "oneness" glue of the NWO that are all based on the thought of freedom, not true freedom being lived in present sense.

The shepherds of the NWO are doing nothing to point out that bickering between us and making bitchy, sarcastic, smart-arsed comments are doing nothing to get us to Paradise. For examples of these, check out the comment from Russell Williams (this thread), Mark Du Bois (in this thread) and Bill Westlund: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203685576368009 if you haven't already read them. How are their comments helpful? Like you, all they seem to be trying to do is put us down and in doing so, ignore the remedy that we promote and live for. Again, refer to Kate of Gaia thread.

You say it is our way or the highway. We never say that. There are an infinite number of ways to co-create do no harm lives, all unique and original, just as the men and women creating them are unique and original too. Again, refer to post with Gregory Williams: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203692712866417 because we again explain the psyop programming deception in action.

The psyop program is designed to have us all eventually be bound together in some universal agreement/contract because we doubt our ability to stand on our own two feet, taking full responsibility for everything we think, feel and do. We doubt that we have been given everything we need to live whole lives without having to force people under our image power, or someone else's image power. This is at the heart of the psyop programming deception, the Russian dolls of our brainwashing.

All we say is, "Do No Harm" or would you like there still to be some harm around? Some abuse, some violence, some destruction. Which harm would you like to maintain? Doubt is harm. When we doubt everyone around us and don't give people their true freedom, what do we create? It is only through doubt that you can bring a mass of people together under the image of a universal contract, a cult, sect, religion, psyop program?It is only people who doubt that come to these meetings and read these articles and go to these workshops.

Imagine bringing up children without ever putting doubt in their thoughts and there being nowhere for them to experience doubt, never doubting you, or their animal friends, or the trees. Can you not see the psyop programming at work here? Can you not see how you doubt us, even though we have never harmed you?

You say we are shooting our information in the foot with our approach. Are you the representative of everyone? Many, many people send us emails thanking us for the work we are doing so is our approach shooting our information in the foot for these people? Have you considered that just because our approach does not work for you does not mean it doesn't work for anybody? And it is not an "approach". We write how we write because that is how we write, just as you write how you write because it is how you write. We write to express as clearly as we can what we have to share. That's it.

We have nothing to hide and nothing to be ashamed of. If you are so sure of the claims you make about us, and so sure of the information being spread by Mark Darwin, Max Igan, Mark Pytellek and anyone else you care to invite, why don't you get everyone together for a Skype debate and you and they can all tell us where you think we are wrong and where our work does not show the way out of "The System" for ALL, regardless of colour, creed, nationality, etc. And we can explain, again, how and where their work leads nowhere but into the NWO, that their work is all rooted in doubt, whereas ours isn't. You are bringing people together now so how about giving them the opportunity to rout us out, to prove that what we are saying is not true, and give listeners the opportunity to hear all sides and use their brains to work things out.

To summarise: bits and pieces taken from various posts on Arthur's FB wall.

From this thread: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203692712866417 - A cow looking over the fence at a green pasture is still a slave to MAN, nothing has changed whether the cow remains in an existing enclosure or is led to another "greener pasture". The point of true freedom is not to lead anyone or anything anywhere at any "time".

Everything about Christianity is this, despite some "good moral truths" and well-meaning people who truly want to help others and live good lives.

If only they would wake up to the brainwashing they have been subjected to!

Then they could lead even more powerful lives of TRUE-freedom.

What is the true freedom?

The "wild" animal that befriends you of its free-will or the animal that is captured and trained/forced to do MANS bidding?

Which freedom do you want to live for?

It's clear where we are heading - what the big picture is.

Christians are slaves to "The System" behind the Bible but they talk about freedom. The freedom they are talking about is "freedom" within "The System" which is no different from the cow going from one field to the next. This freedom is fraud because it is not real freedom. We commit fraud when we claim that we have our animals best interests at heart, all the while they are enslaved to us.

"The System" is just the image power of another MAN forcing others to live under their version of freedom in that image. Those images being the Kingdom of God, Freedom, etc. These are thoughts and ideas of another MAN. They are not unique and original to you. This is no different to the animals that we provide with stables and paddocks; they are not free. They are living under the image power that we place over them.

What is more invigorating; the wild horse who willingly allows you to get on its back and together as a shared experience go for a journey, with both of you having a unique, direct, shared experience, or the ride on a horse you have taken out of the stable and put a saddle on and then put the horse back in the stable after the ride?

What about children, brainwashed Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc.....?

Do you think educating them with The Bible is providing them with true freedom or is it the true loss of true freedom because they are subjected to another MANS FORCE of image power enforcing them under his/her/their image-power, their version of freedom?

Are you truly free in the supermarket as you shop or are you just provided with choices under the guise of "freedom"?

Why does MAN doubt that Living Creator provided everything MAN needs?

Why does MAN have to kidnap children to brainwash them under their IMAGE POWER?

Why does MAN doubt that Living-Creator has provided everything MANS child needs and everything every creature, plant, etc, needs?

Why do we have to act as impostors and trap unique original life-forms under our "storytelling"?

And we argue for this enslavement and we fight for it too.

Here is an example of this deception at play: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203677889935853

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And from this this thread: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203726940962098 - The posts/comments we put up is directed at the blatant Psyop tactics being used, hence our dissociation - our comments/posts clearly explain where we are coming from. Suggest you read them again. If Kate is innocent then he has nothing to be concerned about - what we shared needed to be clearly stated. We refuse our lives, our work, to be associated with no remedy, which comes hand in hand with all our work.

As far as we are concerned we've sensed Kate to be Intel for almost three years now. Nothing has occurred since to change our views on Kate. We had many dealings with him back then. We don't say these things lightly, we don't just rush in and make comments like this unless we have contemplated, contemplated, contemplated, scrutinised, scrutinised, scrutinised, and listened over and and over again to our senses, gut instincts, perceptions, insights, (ancestors all around us), etc. They have never failed us thus far.

It's better to put all our life-energy into the remedy that is Kindom than even to be spending time waking people up to the birth bond fraud because, even if everyone wakes up to it, they still don't have a living remedy in everyday practical sense and thus are ripe for the latest INTEL shepherd with the right buzz words and mantras to sweep them up. Remedy is VITAL, which is why we push it so hard.

We have to start living the remedy all the while waking up to the depth of deception that has been practiced against us. If we don't create the light of kindom, there is nowhere to fall back on when we wake up to the fact that "The System" is rotten to the core, that we are stuck in the darkness of no remedy, no light. Talking about the birth bond fraud is not getting rid of it. Creating Kindoms so that we no longer need "The System" in everyday practical sense and the birth bond fraud doesn't matter any more because we have already cast off our system chains and "The System" fades away as we work on expanding the light of Kindom all around.

The reason for posting the above is to point out how we are all trapped in a Russian Doll psyop program and relying on the information of the psyop program to get us out of the psyop program. Such is the work of Mark Darwin, Mark Pytellek, Max Igan, etc. What we are saying is that we have to step beyond all that and out of the psyop program altogether to begin to set into motion a remedy. Otherwise we end up talking about freedom and truth but not taking the full responsibility for creating truth, freedom and do no harm in our lives and living it in present sense, in every day practical sense.

Stephen, in case you are still not clear about our intentions, below is a declaration and a pledge that have been on our website since 2006 which clearly states where we are coming from;

From the Love For Life website posted 2006..... (found on any web page throughout the website)

THE CRISTIAN FAMILY DECLARATION

The Cristian family and The Love for Life Campaign are apolitical, non-religious, non-violent, anti weapons, anti drugs (both pharmaceutical and recreational) and anti any ideology that denies the existence of Do No Harm Communities (Kindoms) and suppresses the uniqueness and freedom of all men, women and children.

The Cristian family and our Love For Life work is unaligned to any big business corporation, intelligence agency, government body, "system" law, "system" think tanks, "system" green or environmental movements, religion, cult, sect, society (fraternity, brotherhood, sisterhood, order, club, etc,) secret or not, hidden agenda, law or sovereignty group, occult, esoteric, New Age or Old Age.

The Cristian family supports and promotes the remedy that brings an everlasting peace, freedom, truth, joy, abundance and do no harm for all of life without causing loss of uniqueness or the need for having slaves and rulers. We are not into following the one in front or being shepherds for sheeple. Most importantly, we take full-responsibility for everything we think, feel and do.

The Cristian family are not Christians.

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

December 2006

THE CRISTIAN FAMILY PLEDGE

Being of clear brain, heart and intention, we each declare the following to be true:

• We have no intention of ending our own lives.

• We will not tolerate suppression of truth, ideas, freedom, or our work. We stand for freedom of speech.

• We stand together to support others in the expression of truths and freedom to speak out no matter how radical those ideas may seem.

• Standing for freedom takes courage; together we shall be strong in the face of all odds.

• If it is ever claimed that we have committed suicide, encountered an unfortunate accident, died of sickness/disease, disappeared, been institutionalised, or sold out financially or in any other way to self-interested factions, we declare those claims false and fabricated.

• We testify, assert and affirm without reservation, on behalf of all those who have dedicated their lives to the ending of secrecy and the promotion of freedom of thought, ideas and expression that we shall prevail.

• We Do Not Have Multiple Personality Disorders

Arthur Cristian
Fiona Cristian
Jasmin Lily Cristian
Emma Rose Cristian
Frances Hannah Cristian
Xanthe Jane Cristian

15th December 2006 (Edited/Updated 18th September 2011)

And you could also re-visit the lyrics of Save Our Lives which describe the state of most of us here and now in present sense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMgcLqO7VrQ

All the best for you Stephen
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

18 May at 17:40

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Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone

I've had enough of your hypocrisy on many levels, work it out & deal with it or don't. U don't know how i operate 100% making a difference, what i post on my wall is not 100% of what i do, far from it, it is a mere fraction & what U presume of this into your boxed definition of what I represent here from what i post is very narrow minded & definitely not of whole sense. Remember it was me who came to visit U in person & not the other way around. Who have U gone to visit in person to checkout that U are not 100% about but U still accuse them of this, that & the other?

Nor do U know everything about all those U accuse about being cointel. I'm not even going to go into some of the people U have wrongly accused that i myself have met many times in person & have seen the successful results of their work because in this type of public forum it will not serve U, I or them any good whatsoever. Some U are correct about some U are dead wrong yet do U take liability & accountability for when U incorrectly tread on the wrong toes doing harm by doing so?

Unless U have 100% proof of cointel U need to be very careful who U label & box of this & that. Sure, someone's work may indeed may seem to make them cointel & in many cases it does eventually prove to be true once enough evidence on many levels has been gathered but this is however not the case with all people in this regard. The fact that the powers that be can destroy & demonise beyond repall anyone's reputation with clever lies in disguises via many various interoperable means of their whole enterprise architecture is bad enough as it is.

If U accuse someone of cointel no matter how much U can sense it to be true yourself but can't 100% physically prove this to be true, let alone never having vastly experienced in person 1st party who U accuse, then it makes U no better than the powers that be in this regard. In fact it makes U a very useful divide & conquer cointel tool without them needing one There is a very fine line between someone who can be cointel & someone who is just a wilful idiot &/or totally misinformed & on the wrong track but still thinks they are doing the right thing. Q.

What happens when U are wrong about someone being cointel? A. U do them harm. U haven't even met all of these people in person 1st party U accuse of being cointel. There is no point in stating something as cointel truth that can not be proved to be either 100% correct or incorrect, & if something is of a very suspicious nature to be of a certain way, is it not more intelligent to stimulate more much needed provoked thought on the issue by writing about/talking about what is clearly observed until more irrefutable facts come into line rather than just state something to be obviously true just because of this & that which ultimately cannot be fully proved nor fully disproved?

U are in no position to hypocritically judge me nor do i want to waste any more of my time calling U out on your hypocrisies with positive proactive criticism & where your approach is very questionable specifically in this regard. U guys just go for the jugular with no remorse & unless U are 100% correct such an approach just shoots yourselves in the feet with both barrels & distracts people & makes such a shitfight where everyone ends up wasting valuable lifeforce energy that people end up rather wanting to die in the system than look & learn from the good stuff U have on offer that does create remedy if it means they have to continually put up with the trauma.

U give the Satanic Freemasons too much credit - U constantly spout that they make most of it all up. There is a lot of truth that they demonise & use for their own purposes & hence not many go looking for the most obvious place to investigate where they hide truth in the shade. U think they just made the Levite codes for modern Romanised languages out of thin air? There is an original organic language where the letter sounds are that of nature sounds. Have U worked out what it is & know the hows & whys to it all? Have U worked out what they reverse polarised & adapted the English artificial letter sounds except for 's' from, or do U still think they made it all up from scratch? I've dropped enough obvious hints to wet your appetite & curiosity to want to investigate it for yourselves. The original language doesnt lie & the truth is still there for all to see right in front of everyone's faces once once has worked out the key to it all working in reverse but moving forwards.

19 May at 05:48

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Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone

U know jack shit of all of what i do & it is most ardently presumptuous of U to even think U can too. Your approach in public forums on facebook is at times very arrogant, self righteous, harmful & demeaning, especially when it comes to the bottom line creation mechanics ,to those who have far more psychic CENTRED sense than U both do when it comes to actually knowing these things in a completely present state & are far more humble with their approach with sharing what they know. Who are U that they have already been to tell them they are wrong & Satanic just because they don't fit into your box re. how to ideally live away from the system?? Let the truth do the talking & if U want to get your message across much quicker than the usual graduated stages it takes most people over time in order to get (innerstand & overstand etc.) most things of key critical mass importance re. waking up, perhaps find ways to attract peoples' curiosity towards wanting to know it for themselves rather than feeling the insecure need to just bible bash projectile it fashion down people's throats till U grind them down to your own level of experience.

The OWO/NWO have ripped off & hijacked so much before them that is original in an organic sense & have reverse polarised it & manipulated it to create their system. U really think they worked out all of their system for themselves from scratch? Do U not even consider that they have pimped the organic & genial instincts of others before them in order to cherry pick, manipulate, facilitate & recreate what wasnt theirs to start with in the first place into their 'shadow' system?

Your overall highly self righteous fundamental approach that U share your information with needs serious revision from my honest transparent observations on many levels most of which U just continually disregard & look over without much honest evaluated consideration if any at all re. some things - take it or leave it. U have no problem attacking others but when someone like me holds a mirror up so that U can face your own projections U start accusing me of attacking U. I deliberately get inside your gait & mechanisms & use your own language & terms so as to innerstand, understand, & overstand as to where U are coming from the same as an apt musician does to get inside someone else's natural style/gait so as to learn from it & know it. Music is the highest of all natural sciences as everything is all frequency & vibration. Once one 'gets in' on this level of creation mechanics & applies such knowings with the DNA of all life, it is a simple process of transferring the same thing across to all aspects that enable one to know further the interconnectedness of the fabric that makes up all life. In this specific regard, all I do is hold a mirror up & then U cry blue murder that I am attacking Arthur the man etc. when if Arthur the man has no self righteous problem projecting onto others what he thinks is 100% of 'do no harm' then really if the same thing is simply mirrored back to him then why all the fuss? According to Arthur's 'do no harm' paradigm when i hold a mirror up to Arthur then really I am not doing any harm whatsoever. If Arthur is speaking the 100% truth & telling no lies whatsoever then what is mirrored back to him should not be of any harm whatsoever UNLESS what Arthur has projected in the first place is not 100% truth & thus if there is even one lie whether intended or not, that lie, which, as U correctly say every lie is a curse, will get mirrored back to him & hence why he may get hurt & Fiona comes into the fray & starts hypocritically accusing me of attacking his character &/or 'the man' & around the block we go again for one more lap of the mulberry bush.

Anyone can play the additional copy & paste mulberry bush strategy too, but if one knows their information well enough one shouldn't need to if U can spontaneously walk your talk without material props in the present moment.It does make things a bit more free flowing & keeping on specific point without straying from the present moment of energetic exchange. Spontaneity created in the moment existing in love is the truth. Anything contrived has layers attached to it & thus is no longer in the moment & this can be sensed energetically too. Intellectualism means nothing unless it is poignant to the 'isness' of any moment. This is where U lose people with your bombardment of repetitious copy & paste past posts where U expect people to go thru hours of your past documentations in order to substantiate more often than not something that was said/written briefly somewhere amongst the hours of reading or video talk that U could have simply stated being more specific & on point in the present moment of the discussion U are having with someone. I have seen this predictable broken wreckchord pattern repeat itself time & time again & once people get worn out when U grind their lifeforce down to your level of experience, they more often than not just go into their own personal trauma damage control in this specific energetic regard & leave the discussion cause they don't want to suffer any more harm by choosing to remain in such a situation & then U guys jump up & down on your soapboxes retrospectively after that claiming that no-one can out debate U & that no one can find fault in your do no harm philosophies/paradigm.

19 May at 05:49

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Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone

It is very easy to find fault in your supposed do not harm paradigm, just hold up a mirror & if U get harmed by what is simply reflected back then those things that are mirrored back that cause U harm is eggsackly what U need to look at closer & work on.

Now I wrote all of this spontaneously without referring back to any of my past writings or notes or what have U etc. when really i should not be distracted into replying at all cos in 6 hours i have to face the system via the tenancy tribunal for not paying over inflated water charges due mainly to Dept of Housing maintenance negligence re. plumbing/tap/water leaks, let alone other contract breaches they have committed of their own making even within their own system of contract law. Sure, i'd love to be living on the land away from the system living an idealistic organic dream of life if it were currently possible to find a piece of land on this earth that is not owned by the church that marries the 'only god is the owner of the land & we are his rightful proxy managers & hence we own it all' bull$hit with the state & hence it becomes legal fiction law that the banksters combined with the high black priests then end up owning & managing the systemic infrastructure of, but pragmatically & stoicly speaking, i still need a roof over my head to live under for now & unless i deal with the system & know it well enough to be able to hold a mirror up to it so as to cancel out back to zero point the obsequious frequency & vibration it is projecting at me with it's own out of phase reverse polarised frequency & vibration, it will fuck me up the ass regardless & toss me out onto the street. Hence i have wasted way too much time either being an idiot or putting in enough diligent duty of care to keep the love amongst the living in order to expand & enhance upon what I initially said earlier in this thread well over a week ago in a very simple but straight to the point yet respectful way so that it may be clearly understood without the possibility of it again falling on ears that don't listen to every instrument, voice & production part in the mix & being totally not comprehended or maybe some of this going straight over your heads?

Now it's 5 hours, i really am a special kind of stupid lol I could have easily chosen to not care & your reply would have gone straight through to the wicket keeper anyway. It's not like there is anything uniquely present & new that be which of your reply that U haven't said before is there? The evidence of your religious fanatical approach has already been blatantly called out & deconstructed for what it is & your continual subterfuge away from this is pure deceit in itself whether it be knowingly or unknowingly.. If your blind spots still can't see it then it is what it is, it is up to U whether U have what it takes to go face what unconscious parts of your shadow at this stage of your awareness is most seemingly too deep for your conscious parts to bear & handle, & the only place smack bang in the middle of one's present centre one can face & do this for themselves is at the turning point within the very depths of the bowels of one's consciousness. Everyone eventually faces this whether they like it or not if they havent chosen to do so already all ready by the time they experience their Shamanic synchronicity of death transition moment.

You may indeed just say U write how U write but both of you are constantly analyzing the psyche of material that people put out that U never meet in person to the point U call them & their approach out as cointel. U claim to be all this & that but when the shoe is on the other foot yet again U take the almighty high & self righteous pious road in defence. Maybe when U stop this level of duality mind construct hypocrisy programming yourselves, i might stop calling it out the same as U call people out for being cointel that are not all cointel? U may need to consider the old wise saying too in this specific regard of what happens when one always is doing the same things & expecting different results? Too scared to look at &/or even perhaps consider that there actually is a pattern to what U do that one may even presently observe even from a distance as an approach yet U are not afraid in the slightest in pointing it out in others when U see fit & serves your point at hand?

19 May at 05:49

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Arthur Cristian

Stephen, twice to and from Bowral we (our tribe) came to collect you from your home, the first time with Bruno collecting and dropping you off near Lakemba for us (tribe) to collect you. We saw plenty of your Woolloomooloo pad/life back then. It was a team effort to share the full-responsibility of doing something together - organic food, water, health, shelter, bathroom, sofa-bed, transport, friendship, support, song-writing, playing instruments, recording music, etc. We did something together and we had good times.

Through direct experience does this not already reveal to you how we live and continue living to share the abundance of the makings of our lives? If we were trapped in duality constructs we would be too self-centred glorifying "i" to be capable of freely sharing life - hundreds of people have stayed with us and have witnessed how we live. You know some of them. The point is we only met you twice and both times our tribe put the effort in to journey from Bowral to Woolloomooloo 120klms and from Woolloomooloo to Bowral 120klms so you could be with us and us with you = 480klms.

We have known Mark Pytellek since 2007, he and Karen stayed in our home for 4 days March 2009 and did a weekend workshop with him.

David Icke Stayed in our home for 1 week back in 1996 and we looked after him driving him around etc (same with Mark & Karen) during his stay and we even got David to put on a talk for many friends we invited one evening.

Mark Darwin barged into the Mark Pytellek 2009 w/shop and we had plenty of dealings with him particularly with many many deeply hurt people close to him ever since. Refer to Mark Darwin here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7579 and check the comments section too.

We had dealings over the phone and net with Max Igan since 2010/2011 and he outed himself as INTEL along the way...........

A Spell Master At Work (Max Igan)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
21st April 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8401

The Continuation Of The Max Igan Saga
21st August 2013
Facebook Discussion With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8478

Max Igan & The Fraud Of The OPPT
(One Peoples Public Trust)

Facebook Discussion With Arthur & Fiona Cristian
17th to 19th February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8357

OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
27th February 2013 onwards...
Part One : http://youtu.be/Qjp_9nlrBao
Part Two : http://youtu.be/tbybeOWZ-Bc
Part Three : http://youtu.be/yOWoxH-HbVw

Kate of Gaia we've been dealing with for almost 3 years now.

Jordan Maxwell we had one to one dealings with via email many many times back in 2006/2007/2008. The list goes on and on and on.....

We don't say these things (INTEL) lightly, we don't just rush in and make comments like this unless we have contemplated, contemplated, contemplated, scrutinised, scrutinised, scrutinised, and listened over and and over again to our senses, gut instincts, perceptions, insights, (ancestors all around us), etc. They have never failed us thus far.

We proved Mark Darwin is INTEL by the psyop programs he uses which we clearly laid out for all to see, yet alone all the background direct-experience we had with many many first parties, damaged people/families at the hands of Mark Darwin who made plenty of $$$$ out of them too.

Mark Pytellek is INTEL too, we have had hundreds of dealings with people terribly damaged by the work of Mark Pytellek (he made money out of all of them).

The façade of the "nice priest" only exists for as long as all the damage he causes as a paedophile/harm-doer is contained in the background so that the wider community does not know anything about it. This allows for the duped to continue flocking to the severely-compromised-priest's church each week, with $$$ in hand to support him and his church. But there in the background are a few social workers and a policeman/detective or two gaining vast first party evidence of many many sexually abused children, many unrelated to each other and their families.

Same with the work we do Stephen, we have had hundreds of first party dealings with families terribly damaged by INTEL Operators, some (of what we know so far) you are determined to protect.

If Mark Darwin, Max Igan and Mark Pytellek are innocent they would have already dropped everything to do freedom seminars, w/shops, etc, and stopped making money out of mostly desperate, deeply traumatised people. All of their psyop programs are deeply rooted in duality constructs that blatantly brainwash their victims.

How can you take the duped into what does not exist (courts, laws, statutes, money, government, corporations, institutions, trusts, foundations, etc etc) to find and apply a remedy that does not exist either while making money (which does not exist) out of the duped? THERE IS NO REMEDY - all still remain deeply trapped in "The System" with no way out. THIS IS FACT - and you are trying to protect these liars to continue running this racket/scam!

And have they dropped all this work?

NOPE.

Have they made an apology for the fraud/lies of their work that misled so many many many many people and still do?

NOPE!

What about you Stephen?

Almost everything else you've written to us is all your storytelling of non-sense going on between your ears Stephen. Your intellectual brilliance is severely blunted by the conflict of your "own" making. The real Arthur & Fiona are not even present to you - they are just echoes of an imaginary conflict going on between your ears. We are the living first parties and we testify that the conflict and doubt you have written in your posts, using us as part of your storyboard in this thread, are make-believe.

As we have already offered, why don't you put all your claims/arguments to the test of scrutiny in a debate with us recorded live for uploading to Youtube, Facebook and elsewhere etc? If you are so confident in what you say then come on mate, lets get on with it, please do expose us, rout us out for all to see. Lets see you back your claims. Why not bring Mark Darwin, Mark Pytellek and Max Igan on the "show" with you. We are big boys/girls, we can handle the 4 of you.

How about it Stephen?

This would help to clear the air.

And here you are Stephen agreeing with almost everything we say about psyops programming while at the same time we are witnessing you protecting the psyops programming Max Igan, Mark Darwin, Mark Pytellek & others are using which we have exposed in great detail which you agree with! Who is the hypocrite here? Whose side are you on Stephen?

19 May at 14:02

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Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone

I'm up for a show with U & Max - then U will not be able to duck & weave & subterfuge away from the conflict of your own hypocritical making. Your approach is so fear based & what U project onto others when U take it to the extreme max overly criticizing people with allegations U have no hard evidence for only serves to expose your own insecurities. Basic psychology 101. Fear based projection & with your bible bashing Arthur's way or the highway approach does do harm & also U are hypocritically guilty of being addicted to the trauma U also create in the process. The fact U never own it & the fact that without the names of others around U that U wouldnt even have a roof over your head speaks for itself.

I will be asking the same point blank questions U continue to avoid & subterfuge away from & never own & on a radio show U won't be able to copy & paste all your inspecific diatribe that is not point blank poignant & specific to the key critical points at hand U continually avoid when the mirror is held up. U need to lose the holier than thou attitudinal dysfunction & admit to & own your hypocrisies & flaws because when the shoe is on the other foot U can't handle when your low vibratory psychological attitudinal approaches are exposed for what they truly are, U can't even take back & own a quarter of what U dish out to others. U are way too quick to jusge without knowing the whole of a person's situation/knowledge/results, just your own selective cherrypicking that suits your own agenda. I have seen the good & bad results of many. It is not always the person's fault who is the messenger teaching the information, it is often what the person learning the information actually does or doesnt do with it. A teacher is only as good as the space a student provides & U NEVER take this into consideration when assessing & judging the whole of someone's work & or what they do, nor do U ever know the whole entirety of what they do..U are often so guilty of projecting the same things U hardcore warn people about & hardcore expose some people U havent done enough homework on.

In life what U give is what U get. Now look at the psychology of how U present & project your information & watch yourselves scream blue murder & slander when someone like me puts back on you what U put onto others. When U do it to others U say U are only pointing out their mechanisms & not attacking the living man but when it's done back to U re. your machination mechanisms & psychological attitudinal approach are called out, it's duck & weave & subterfuge time never owning your own forensic profiling footprints.

We're all on the same side here but U need to own your own part in your own divide & separate tango re. your attitudinal approach amongst this very same side/team.

bugger writing any more, just book the show with Max & i'll deconstruct it all & explain it all even more simpler yet more straight to the point in the spoken spontaneous present.

29 May at 13:05

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Arthur Cristian

All your questions were answered Stephen - please point out which ones are you claiming we've avoided? Again, you talk in the 3rd party claiming that your performance of Arthur & Fiona is the first party. You continue acting as an impostor of us trying to glue your claims about us on us. This is bullshit Stephen. You are really con-fused between 1st party and third party. Refer to the post we are about to put up about Max Igans Psyops Program, will post link below. Please read it as it might help make things a lot more clearer as to where we are really coming from and what our intentions/motives are/were. It again explains this 1st party and third party scenario. Most happy to chat with you over the air waves or we meet up for a face to face chat.

1 June at 02:03

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Arthur Cristian

Routing Out Psyop Programs Routs Out Intel Operatives
+ Exposing Max Igan's Psyop Program
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 31st May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8524

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Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone

Ok, lets hold up the mirror once again 'You continue acting as an impostor of us trying to glue your claims about us on us. This is bullshit Arthur & Fiona"....comprende? penny dropped yet? As the old saying goes, are U doing the same things here yet always expecting different results?

1 June at 02:39

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Arthur Cristian

The mirror is always in the third party to Stephen - the first party is not the mirror.

1 June at 02:57

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Arthur Cristian

We need to meet up - do you want come out here for an overnight in the near future? We can sort this all out between us then.

1 June at 02:58

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Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone

What does the first party see in the mirror?

1 June at 03:16

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Essence Mera

Arthur no personal offence to you but judging by your repeated comments one after the other as well as the repeated contents....they remind me of a power point slide show...also they remind me of those op media flashing mind program's...designed to push the minds tolerance level to either take on the flashing programming or go insane fighting it.., Do you think you might have been one of those people who were subjucted to this sort of mind programming then had their memory wiped and reconfigured into the new world?

1 June at 03:58

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Arthur Cristian

@ Stephen, Nothing (real) unless he/she is brainwashed or lost in "self-made e-----go....

1 June at 04:04

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Arthur Cristian

@ Essence, No, nothing like it - Best not to add your meaning to what you read cause they are yours, not ours. The explanations/insights are there for those who want to fully-comprehend what we've been learning. We are a first party - come and have a direct experience with us - would you like to have a chat over a landline in the near future? If so FB PM us and we'll get back to you. Also, most of these posts are written by Fiona and Arthur together, especially all those listed in the sequential order. Off to have a rest...... Thanks for sharing your waking life with us.

1 June at 04:09

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Essence Mera

"Arthur Cristian
Nothing (real) unless he/she is brainwashed or lost in "self-made e-----go...."
Yes that's very visible

"- would you like to have a chat over a landline in the near future? If so FB PM us and we'll get back to you. "

Thank you for the invitation maybe another time.

1 June at 04:18

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Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone

Do U not experience yourself as real, 1st party, when U stare at yourself in the bathroom mirror during any present moment?

Or use the mirror to make it easier to look at a part of your body that your eyes cannot see without a mirror in order to perform a certain task in an easier way?

A mirror is very handy to use in any present moment especially when U can't see your own blind spots is it not?

When U look at your reflection in a lake from the water is that also not real? Or is this type of natural reflection part of the Satanic Freemasonic conspiracy to suck your lifeforce too?

There is a difference with using a mirror in a practical present moment sense than using one in a non present manipulated sense that then has contrived layers attached to it.

Nothing real huh, so according to your logic, when U project what U say U can't even see/hear what U have projected even when it is point blank directly mirrored & echoed back to yourself being the first party?

Your reflection straight back at U in the mirror would not exist in the first place if U the first party was not there in the first place.

When i hold up the mirror i merely return your projections & if any of them are lies the curses are returned straight back to sender.

I have many times used your exact profiled projections that U use on myself & other people & neither of you can handle the same poison U spit when it is returned. If it wasn't poison then it would be like water off a duck's back when it is not bought into & deflected/reflected straight back at U but U more often than not never handle what U give out to people like this when it is returned straight back to U.

U have no problem hitting people with your own cricket bat but U cry blue murder when other people use your own bat against yourselves. U constantly expose your own hypocrisies in this way. How many other ways would U like me to put it until U get it or are U too brainwashed or lost within your own self made e------go?

It is not hard to be 1st party to Arthur & Fiona's performance & then copy & paste their performance & send it 1st party straight back to them. It's child's play in fact. If either of U had spent as much time in your lifetimes so far as i have listening to & producing sounds U might start to begin to see for your 1st party selves that it is indeed child's play once one has put enough love into attaining such a skill. Copy & pasting your more often than not non spontaneous performed broken wreckchord rhetoric & sending it right back in your faces requires the same effort as accurately mimicking doe re mi. It's light years away from getting inside the tonal timbres & harmonic rhythm of a spontaneously improvised work of a virtuosic free spirited gypsy musician. It would be most wise to not shit on others who have a far more extensive attention to detail when it comes to listening & then getting it down themselves that U do would it not?

There is no confusion between 1st party & 3rd party, U guys just need to graduate beyond kindergarten semantics.

Spontaneity, created in the moment, existing in love, is the truth.

Have U got your stuff that far down that U can spontaneously improvise perfectly composed creation in any moment?

Can U be right brain dominant with left brain in autopilot in order to do so, hence using spontaneous whole brain as there really is no left & right brain?

Mera's insights are her own 1st party experience of your 1st party projections just the same as your insights of people U claim to be cointel & here U just fob her off by saying not to add her sensed interpretation of your meaning yet U guys analyze the fuck out of everyone else who writes anything online in whatever way U want & then project it to the world as the Gospel of Arthur & Fiona. Some of your insights are correct & some of them are incorrect . What if she has an even deeper sensed insight of the base mechanistic machinations of what U have projected unconsciously than what U can even consciously see within your own projections? Yet U constantly rigorously claim to have 100% truth about whoever without always having 100% hard physical evidence adding your meaning to what U read of what the whoever 1st party means?

U have not answered all of my questions, that is a blatant LIE, cos if U did U would actually directly & specifically address & answer them spontaneously being present in the current moment instead of doing your nonspecific indirect contrived not in the present moment repetitive programmed NLP copy & paste diatribes that just spam & clog up/constipate the page & completely lose the flow which just ends up as a messy left brain shit farm - would U like me to treat U guys the same as U constantly patronise me like i'm some idiot who knows nothing, by spamming all your threads with the same repeated comments & content regardless of the fact that only 5-10% of the spam is actually directly related to the current direct 1st party to 1st party specific content exchange at hand? Is it possible to have an exchange with Arthur & Fiona with them being directly specific to the content at hand without spamming the thread with irrelevant intellectual polyfiller? There are plenty of my questions that U constantly avoid cos of your limited capability to comprehend them cos U show a lack of capability &/or blatantly refuse to put yourselves under the same rigorous self analyzing microscope as U so zealously scrutinizingly do with others.

When U come & shit all over my wall like this & especially when U troll other posts with your diatribes that are irrelevant to the post content it is the same manners as coming to shit all over my living room.

By all means U are always free to visit & say what U want but it is what it is.

1 June at 09:47

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Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone

Intellectualism means nothing if it is not poignant to the 'isness' of any moment. When are U ever going to learn this?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????!

This is where your tedious goading bible bashing attitudinal approach turns many people right off no matter how good your information is. It is the same as cheap salesman crude but effective advertising that slams people on the radio or TV until it is programmed into their unconscious regardless of whether it is good for them or not. There is nothing intelligent & of 'do no harm' with this type of approach, period. In fact it is of the lowest emotional IQ. When are U people gonna wake up to this huh???????? When U do present truth with such a repetitive contrived fear based programmed approach, U make the whole leaving the system to join Arthur & Fiona growing veges in rented houses using system names at the ass end of Bowral as inspiring as leaving the system to go flourish in a leper colony.

U guys, to use your own words, constantly act as imposters trying to glue your insinuated opinions & claims on me & others, like when U judged me to be light years behind Hannah who lives with U 24/7 & now completely under your trance when U barely know anything about what i do in my life, haven't seen me for years, let alone when we speak i am the one who does most of the listening & U are the one doing most of the talking barely stopping ever to take a proper breath, so when the shoe is on the other foot with me using your own nails to pin U back in your own box & U hypocritically claim me being an imposter trying to glue my claims about U on U.

As for the 480km of travel, your agenda was to use me to get what would have cost U a shitload of cash that by all means i was happy to help U out with for nothing as i have done so with countless people for over 20 years U know absolutely nothing about & U think U know my life from 2 brief visits to my current home, but U were not willing to come my way an inch when it came to practicality re. finishing your songs. If U were not such a control freak & actually listened to what i put on the table re. how to efficiently finish your tracks without compromising any of your artist integrity & all the constant travel U proposed every week or 2, & actually send the files via the net backwards & forwards until a final mix can be done together if needbe, then U would have had a highly professionally made product for nothing achieved years ago.

As for accusing me of being determined to protect Intel, name one name i have mentioned in any of these post/comment threads that i have defended & am trying to protect Arthur & Fiona?

U are the ones' naming names on CIA book here, not I. And I'm not stupid enough to point out and say which ones U are correct about & which ones U arent.

My main concern is not the ones U are correct about, but the ones U are not correct about & the ones U don't have enough substantiated evidence to convincingly sustain your accusations. I am not going to bring attention to such people by naming names cos that causes harm either way.

& bringing unwanted attention to true activists that are friends of mine by making unnecessary examples of them in your own posts here on CIA book without their informed consent so U can use them to further out cointel is just plain disrespectful & dumb cos U end up making these people targets too. This is doing harm. STOP IT! Use your fucking brains, it's not like U don't eat enough vegetables either smh.

If u really care about certain people (& really wish to do them no harm) who are all on our same side essentially at the end of the day, do it privately via inbox or email or off CIA book & not make a public spectacle of them.

As for all forms of cointel, as the old saying goes, the more U fear something the more U WILL attract it.

1 June at 09:48

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Arthur Cristian

This is all your 3rd party mirror going berserk between your ears Stephen.
Best to let all these demons go.
Step out of these reflections and bond with the living first parties.

You make claims of fear but there is NO FEAR here being performed with the first parties Fiona and Arthur Cristian.

The only people being turned off are those still lost in the reflections of third party non-sense - they are NOT the first parties. Is why we offered Essense Mera a phone chat so she can have a direct experience with us.

You are not witnessing the massive flow of people writing to us, ringing us, emailing us, visiting us, etc, every "day".

Am sure Hannah would love to have a chat with you about your claims about Hannah.

We all did what had to be done for the music to flow between us. We have no hard feelings with you about anything. What we did is what we did. There is NOTHING to be wrong about what you did or what we did. Like we've said many times before, we have no attachment to any e-motional outcomes with you. We truly are very grateful for your contributions to the project.

This whose right and whose wrong is the reflections in the mirror - they are not coming from the first parties Arthur and Fiona. When people make claims about us without having any first party evidence to support what they are saying, we ask them for first party evidence. Should we sit back and say nothing? When we see the harm in people's work and that it is most definitely NOT leading to true freedom (only to "system freedom" - refer to posts in this thread), should we sit back and say nothing? Aren't we all in the state we are in because of people sitting back and saying nothing? Will you not stand up and point out harm where you see it so that the harm may be stopped? Or will you sit back and say nothing so as not to ruffle any feathers? Do you think that nothing good is coming from our work? Should we not stir up all the mud so that it can brought to the surface for everyone to examine and learn from and never allow that mud (trauma, reactions to trauma) to be there again?

Can you demonstrate the fear in our work? Can you repeat the words that we say? This is why we write to Max - he never addresses anything in our work, just makes attacks on who we are when he doesn't even know us! Why can't he look at what we write and what we offer and scrutinise that? Why can't he be impartial? Why does he have to make everything personal - and it is not just us saying that this is how he behaves. He is acting as a victim now but he won't take full responsibility for his upset. We are not upset! We all have to be bigger than this if we are ever to get out of the mud (the third party reflections in the mirror).

The NWO is already being played out through the Psyops Programs being waged against us by many, many, hundreds of Intel Operatives - Destroying the Psyops Programs neuters the influence Intel Agents have over all of us who are really waking up to the REAL tactics of a war being waged against all of us. The work we do IS the Empowering that bonds all our brothers/sisters together into being the mass exodus out of "The System" forevermore. Then there is no more fighting.

There is a choice of either people standing together in nature with NO SYSTEM all around us or of people standing together bound to "The System" all around us. We live for MAN being bound to nature - we refuse MAN being bound to "The System" under the guise of being "natural".

When we see anything that binds people to "The System", consciously or not, we come in to point it out and yes, we know that all the barbs that have been thrown at us over the years come with the territory, usually because people don't like having their feathers ruffled, don't like having their apathy, fear, denial and distrust, etc, pointed out. And no, this is not judgemental. We never say that we are better than anyone else or that we don't have trauma and egos, etc. We have never met anyone who doesn't. Those who don't won't be on the internet or in "The System". They are already in Paradise.

All your questions have been answered, Stephen, either directly to you or in the posts we have been putting up this year. You obviously don't want to come out here so we will try to come and visit you, it just may take some time to organise as we are extremely busy, as can be witnessed by the fact it took us almost 5 days to reply to Max, and can be very challenging to find a day to take out.

There are 7 of us here, 4 of them children who take up a lot of our time every day. Then there is the garden, the home, the dogs, then there are the visitors and the phone calls, and the emails and the website, and the recording studio, You Tube, Facebook and all the other responsibilities that take up a lot of our waking life everyday to keep everything running under our present circumstances. We already have a backlog and this will intensify if we go for the day.

We are not asking for sympathy here as we willingly do what we do. The pressure comes with the territory and we do the best we can every day to meet all the demands of our dreams being set into motion. These responsibilities make it very challenging to find the space to disappear because we do not leave the house unattended, considering all the attempts of breaking and entering, etc, that we have had to deal with. You might call this fear but we call it responsibility. We have to stick to our priorities and fit other things in as we can and say no to the things we can't handle at this point.

We get it that you are busy too, so let's see what comes and meet up when we can.

Both of us are writing to you here and we have a reply that has been hanging over our heads for 2 weeks or so now so we will leave this thread and get back to it. It is challenging for us to get together to write, as we are both often occupied with other things but we have some "time" now so we will get back to it.

1 June at 17:02

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Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone

There is no point even discussing or addressing anything with either of U, thanks for epitomizing that yet again & completely missing & subterfuging from the entire point with your response. I won't be wasting any more of my time nor insulting my own intelligence dealing with your utter hypocrisy on so many levels that U either seem essentially blind of or in complete denial yourselves.

1 June at 17:15

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Arthur Cristian

People are really waking up to the real Intel Psyop Program tactics going on EVERYWHERE - What you see being posted here https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203726940962098 particularly during those days when we were not on FB, is just the tip of the iceberg of the influx of correspondence coming in from men and women all-across-Earth. What you are experiencing is the REAL awakening going on. They are waking up to/from THE PSYOPS PROGRAMS that have done their heads in - Max Igan's Psyop Program is redundant and has entered the NWO scrapyard as a failure. More to come until all Intel Operatives Psyop Programs are completely destroyed.

We live so others may live for what we live for too!

1 June at 18:00

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Arthur Cristian

To repeat......

The NWO is already being played out through the Psyops Programs being waged against us by many, many, hundreds of Intel Operatives - Destroying the Psyops Programs neuters the influence Intel Agents have over all of us who are really waking up to the REAL tactics of a war being waged against all of us. The work we do IS the Empowering that bonds all our brothers/sisters together into being the mass exodus out of "The System" forevermore. Then there is no more fighting.

There is a choice of either people standing together in nature with NO SYSTEM all around us or of people standing together bound to "The System" all around us. We live for MAN being bound to nature - we refuse MAN being bound to "The System" under the guise of being "natural".

1 June at 18:02

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Arthur Cristian

As people wake up to the psyop programs, they will be asking some serious questions of their brothers and sisters as to what their motives were for deceiving all of us and what they could be doing to make up for their support of our slavery. When Kindoms are up and running, there will be a sanctuary for system shepherds and lackeys to come to, to join with the rest of us in co-creating paradise again. Let's hope the Kindoms are ready and enough of us have woken up enough to the fact that revenge does nothing but harm those who seek it! We have already pointed this out to Ivana.

1 June at 18:22

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Essence Mera

What do you mean?

"There is a choice of either people standing together in nature with NO SYSTEM all around us or of people standing together bound to "The System" all around us. We live for MAN being bound to nature - we refuse MAN being bound to "The System" under the guise of being "natural"."

Every living condition is constraint to a system be it natural or sociological or economical....every living condition for man is bound to a system. It is in Man to be evolutionary. Perhaps clarify the system...

There will always be a system

There will always be a society made up of group individuals..

There will always be evolution ..

Man is bound to nature regardless of the system..it's seems you are touching on nature sociological system for man?

1 June at 19:49

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Essence Mera

"As people wake up to the psyop programs, they will be asking some serious questions of their brothers and sisters as to what their motives were for deceiving all of us and what they could be doing to make up for their support of our slavery."

It sounds like Man trying to lead by pre empathises the outcome...is that what you mean?

By creation man is a natural evolutionist.. By that it is natural for him to charge or take lead when he is in his evolutionary cycle. The risk of pre emphasising the outcome makes this system's lead same as the current system conditioning.

Letting things unfold naturally is probably what your meaning to communicate?

There is a lot in your system that can be questioned but I haven't got any more time to pick more..I personally think it's healthy for a system to never be completely 100% becuase Man wouldn't need to be evolutionary if anything was 100% other than nature....I agree with Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone
It's your approach which for me personally puts me off... You come across dictating. If your not with ego then you would gladly take constructive criticism to better synch your system.

1 June at 20:14

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Arthur Cristian

Everything of 3rd party education is a lie, is fraud. Evolution does not exist. All man-made constructs do not exist. Belief is not proof of fact. We all have free will. Where we all go with our thinking, feelings/e-motions, dreaming, etc, so goes the whole of the dream of life. The buck stops with MAN (all of us). All of life is at the effect of 1st parties. Evolution is not a 1st party. Truth comes through direct experience 1st party to 1st party. Re-presenting (belief in) "intellectual property" is all 3rd party non-sense. Did the sensory life-form tell you directly first party to first party that it was a daffodil and is yellow or did another MAN put these ideas/thoughts/images (intellectual property) into your head? We all commit fraud and are lying when we act as a 3rd party (impostor) of a 1st party. Outside of all our ancestors being invaded, decimated, ridiculed, abused, raped, pillaged, plundered, traumatised, etc, the worst thing ever done to all their descendants (us) was education/instruction/explanation. We were all meant to be an unique/original MAN. This is all explained in great detail in the Love For Life videos, articles, debates/discussions, podcasts, etc. Refer to the Sequential Order for a helpful starting place. Go here and scroll down to find it: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608.

1 June at 22:57

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Essence Mera

""Everything of 3rd party education is a lie,"

yes I agree

"Evolution does not exist."

This is linked under different specific topics for me to respond I would need further specific clarifications. For example if you are referring to nature you only have to look to see how plants, trees, even babies grow from seeds to their full maturity.. It gets a bit hazy here because maturity constraints is questionable under different topics. In terms of growths from seeds to babies onwards at each growths level the subject has experienced an evolution of maturity and growths. This is just a brief example as to why I am unclear on your system as it does not clarify simply provides a scale of journalising using resonating terminology in some instance for example.. The term E-man I find that resonating and accurate to describe by essence what MAN is and should be..I would rather not provide my own recognition of this term because I sense you to be far from the garden and used as means of obtaining information from others... You have been given terms to place out into the FB lake for people to recognise and correct your unrecognised detention of this term. ( sincere apologises to you if I sound rude as that is not my intentions, I do recognise you with intent to be aiming to recreate a garden existence and that is a good thing in its self)

"All man-made constructs do not exist."

How do you explaining communicating to me on this forum? Again I am unclear on your meaning

"Belief is not proof of fact. "
??

"We all have free will."

Questionable under the current globule political and economical conditioning. Etc etc etc

"Where we all go with our thinking, feelings/e-motions, dreaming, etc, so goes the whole of the dream of life. "

This is a fancy programming sentence which you inserted after inserting questionable and un-clarified sentences before it...designed to clam and sway the reader to your understanding"

"The buck stops with MAN (all of us). All of life is at the effect of 1st parties. Evolution is not a 1st party. Truth comes through direct experience 1st party to 1st party. Re-presenting (belief in) "intellectual property" is all 3rd party non-sense"

By the time I read this sentence ... I understand where your going with it...but at this point your lost your point in getting this across becuase you haven't clarified anything with concrete value..for example there is not 'feeling' in your words, it's not even spirit..your voice is louder than your message.

"Did the sensory life-form tell you directly first party to first party that it was a daffodil and is yellow or did another MAN put these ideas/thoughts/images (intellectual property) into your head? We all commit fraud and are lying when we act as a 3rd party (impostor) of a 1st party."

what ? I don't know who and what meaning you mean by 1st party or party, party ?? I am confused

"Outside of all our ancestors being invaded, decimated, ridiculed, abused, raped, pillaged, plundered, traumatised, etc, the worst thing ever done to all their descendants (us) was education/instruction/explanation. We were all meant to be an unique/original MAN."

This is just fancy talk which contradicts the statement you made about free will .for example.. Did I choose this? No..did you ? I would say no.. But things like rape, starvation, killings etc etc exists and so I technically have no free will rather ones the system tells me when and what I can choose. I exist within a condition which was chosen by people before me and the free will I have now is constraints or none at all. My free choice is I choose none of it but it still exists.

On a final note ...

I read your link about Hannah and I offended.. What kind of man are you?? Why would you parade her suffering and pain as a good story to promote your fallen distorted idea of Man and his garden. You lost any reservation I had about you after I saw the first paragraph about poor Hannah. You brained washed her and used her to enrich your fake fallen system.., do you consider your self to be a 'MAN ' or even an 'E'- Man... I feel you to be a repressed control freak! Had you not used poor Hannah like that to self gain then I would have attempted to take you seriously and try and understand your stupid system which is in fact far from the garden of Earth. Again no offence but you come across like a man with small dick syndrome.. Next time think twice about parading Hannah's suffering and pain... All it did was show you up as a fallen man! Becuase of this stupid parade you did you lost it so I won't be making any more comments. Go back back to authenticity.

2 June at 00:07

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Arthur Cristian

You are acting as a 3rd party of Hannah - all your thoughts and pull of e-motions are just that, 3rd party. They do not come from us, we are not the source of such effects - they come from you and whatever life-experience you have been exposed to thus far. Subtle or not, when others are passing the buck they are indicating a "victim mentality" derived from trauma. Being strangers, you have placed a lot of responsibility on us for how you think, feel, behave, react, perform, etc, which often indicates "mind games" or someone deeply traumatised. Then there is the red rag waving at the bull syndrome on offer in your writings too. Thanks for the e---go con-test offer, but no thanks.

Come and meet the first party Hannah, come and meet the first party Fiona, Arthur, Jasmin, Frances, Xanthe, Bruno, Ricardo, etc..., come and have a direct experience, first party to first party, with the living, and get the truth of their real lives directly from the first parties. Without it you have nothing bar the reflections in the mirror of your "own" making. This is fact. You have not lived with us, have not had any intense private dealings with us, have not been injured by us or ripped off by us either, etc, so your present concerns, views, opinions, about us are make-believe and if you continue on this path you are party to fraud, lying and slander.

Everything of "The System" is cult based (make-believe), politics, education, law, religions, race, culture, science, sport, etc. We live to be free from being under someone else's (each other's) image power. This is all about a mass exodus from "The System" of organ-i-sed cults, sects, societies, think tanks, orders, fraternities, publics, "herd-mentalities", etc.

Playing with "mental gymnastics" as you offer, is not what we are into, as this is all about playing "mind (my----in-d) games of image power which leads to conflict and chaos. Thanks for the offer but no thanks. We don't have the spare waking life to have a "sword fight" with you. We are NOT into worshipping or defending "personality cults".

All our work is explained in great detail, is in plain sight, we provide full-disclosure, and it explains everything about the big picture we live/dream for. You do not have agree with any of it and you do not have to have us and our dreams in your life. However, it's up to you if you want to step outside of what you already know to enter what you don't know and go from there. We are not here to change you. We are not rescuers. We are not your leader or your master or your guru or god, etc, and you are not ours either. Generally speaking, we are not answerable to you as you are not answerable to us. We encourage everyone to take full-responsibility for everything they think, feel and do. We recognise that no MAN is master of another MAN, that all of MAN is equal to all of MAN, that we are all unique and original (pre extensive brainwashing), not "one" the same as the next. This all requires the virtues of love set into motion. All the thoughts, ideas, opinions in the world are useless if people don't take full responsibility for setting into motion everything they think, feel and do.

You are most welcome to sense (direct experience touch, taste, feel, smell, hear, see) our intentions, to sense who we really are, what drives us, what we live for and where we are heading. We seek to do you and all of MAN no harm. Yes, "since 2005", we've really woken up in the midst of being deeply compromised but this does not faze us. We are getting on with getting out of this mess. We do what we can one step at a time until we have co-created a living paradise all around.

We are all working towards being free from being under each other. There is a way forward to get out of all this mess - many of us have worked this out and are coming together to create a living remedy we call Kindom. It is a gradual step by step transition. Here is one of them.

From Bare Dirt To Abundance
A Year In The Life Of The
Love For Life Food Forest
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
8th February 2013
51 Minutes 46 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A

The Steps Of Kindom
2006/2007
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

It's all in the doing - all the talking/writing/thinking, etc, is just that. To us, we need to live it, to walk-the-talk, to be the freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, do no harm, etc.......

If you have a remedy that provides freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, do no harm, no loss of uniqueness/originality, no slaves and rulers for everyone and everything of nature please share that with us, we will be very interested because this is our passion, is what we live for. Refer to the Steps Of Kindom (we plan to rewrite and update this 2006/2007 remedy over the coming 12 months or so). Out of the over 200 million unique visitors/ip-addressees that visited the Love For Life website since Dec 2006 and out of the hundreds of thousands of emails we've received (up to 1000 emails still come in every day - lots of rubbish included) and everyone else we've corresponded with over Facebook & YouTube, and particularly all the many friendships we've formed across Earth thanks to the Ringing Cedars books (links provided below), there is more than one hundred thousand men and women who have already really woken up and are on the Kindom path. We are not alone.

We wish you all the best, that all your do no harm dreams come true. That all the tools you have will create what you dream for, assuming you live to do no harm to others.

2012-2013-2014 Re-Written English Version Of Ringing Cedars Books 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8a, 8b (9), 10
https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=56f3aac87fe83d0f&id=56F3AAC87FE83D0F%2118...

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Arthur Cristian

We just watched this video about how to create a mind-control cult. Excellent and spot on. However the makers of this video are already part of a cult, are already practising the oc-cults before, during and after making this video. All the education, instruction and explanation they/we have received since sperm & egg is already the effects of the oc-cults upon us and we continue setting into motion the deep-seated psyop programming of the oc-cults upon us and upon everyone and everything all around us = "The System" of an occultic program.

It just shows us why we have to set into motion the Kindom remedy that stops us educating, instructing and explaining everything to our children. The only way to break this ocCULT stranglehold over us is to set each other free from each other but to do that we have to recognise and let go of our ocCULT trauma, the pull of e-motions of someone else's ocCULT-i-c image power in our heads that we have been dancing to, as well as working hard to clean up the damage we have all been party to.

"The System" is a cult, a program that tell us how we should live, how we should think, etc. It is an occult in itself.

An oc-cult.

While we have to use the occults, the tools of "The System" CULT, to get out of this, so long as we are clear in our intention to expand the light of the Kindom remedy (NO SYSTEM OF A CULT) at the end of the tunnel, the mass exodus from "The System" CULT, we will get there so that our children and our children's children are free from this CULT and we have stopped the power of the occults over all of us.

This requires a strong group of people committed no matter what and without doubt about each other and what they are doing, as well as being strong enough to withstand being called a cult, which we undoubtedly will be.

We are called a cult now when we are just a family + 1!

Those who attack people breaking away do so because they do not want to let go of "The System" CULT and do not have a remedy to "The System" CULT . They do not want us to leave the CULT of "The System", THEIR CULT.

This is why 2006-2007 we created The Steps of Kindom, a breaking away from "The System" CULT forevermore, a present-sense (being conscious) living remedy that focuses on do no harm and life is a gift.

This shuts people up because how can they attack do no harm and life is a gift!

How can that be a cult?!

To put the nail in the coffin of the dead and send them back to their dead ocCULTic world with their tail between their legs, we ask them for their remedy that provides freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, do no harm, no loss of uniqueness/originality and no slaves and rulers for everyone and everything = NO SYSTEM OF A CULT. By confronting them, we are showing them that they have nothing except "THE SYSTEM CULT to offer us.

This makes our intentions very clear and is not something people can really argue with if they are honest. If they are not, they will continue to fight for their oc-CULTic belief systems and continue to attack anything/anyone who threatens them.

AND, confronting them with these do no harm life is a gift remedy questions exposes them right out in the open for all to see. They have NOWHERE to hide............. enter Kate Of Gaia, Max Igan, Mark Darwin, David Icke, Michael Tsarion, George Green, Benjamin Fulford, Alex Jones, Santos Bonacci, Marl Passio, Zeitgeist, Thrive, Ubuntu, OPPT, Michael Tellinger, "Oneness Consciousness/One Earth" this or that, Deepak Chopra, David Wilcock, David Woolfe, Project Camelot/Project Avalon Bill & Kerrie, Mike Adams, Quantum Physics, System Science, Oprah Winfrey, Barack Obama, Queen Elizabeth, Prince William, EU, UN, NATO, WTO, WHO, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, ..... :) <3

Mind Control Cults
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnNSe5XYp6E

The Steps Of Kindom
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life 2006/2007
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

Routing Out Psyop Programs
Routs Out Intel Operatives
Kate of Gaia, Max Igan & Mark Darwin

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 31st May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8524

Wednesday 4th June 2014 10.30pm

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Arthur Cristian

Hannah has asked us to post this here as she is not a FB friend of Stephen's or Essense Mera to do so......

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Hannah Wood

Stephen You said –

‘‘U guys, to use your own words, constantly act as imposters trying to glue your insinuated opinions & claims on me & others, like when U judged me to be light years behind Hannah who lives with U 24/7 & now completely under your trance ….’’

Could you please bring forward the first party evidence to support what you are saying about me here? Can you provide first party evidence to support that I am under Arthur and Fiona's trance?

Essence Mera You said –

“…..You brained washed her and used her to enrich your fake fallen system.., do you consider your self to be a 'MAN ' or even an 'E'- Man...”

Again, can you please bring forward the evidence to support this claim you have made about me in this situation you claim to be true? You have never even met me, neither Arthur or Fiona.

Hannah
https://www.facebook.com/1hannahwood

Wednesday 4th June 2014 11.13pm

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Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone

My profile is public so anyone can make a comment. Arthur, why don't U re-read the comment where U wrote it, or maybe Fiona wrote it re. Hannah. Otherwise, just fuck off. I have no more time or energy to waste on U & your hypocritical bullshit.

17 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

It was written in context to your consistent "e-motional" outbursts - you are most definitely not thinking clear/straight, but obviously you will be in denial about all of this writing of yours in 3rd party too. As far as we are concerned you have had consistent strong tendencies to make things "personal" most of the time with us and you keep doing it. Such is the way of a "victim" mentality aligning with a "conflict" that ONLY goes on in-between your ears and no where else. You spend more "time" re-acting with us than co-creating with us. THIS IS FACT.

As far as we are concerned the fact you continually make things personal, which you do when writing in 3rd party, clearly reveals you have very little confidence in backing up your arguments, your views, as in finding fault in what we actually say/write in first party, so instead you default back into 3rd party to go after the MAN (Arthur & Fiona) cause that is all you've got left.

YOU ARE DEALING WITH BOTH OF US STEPHEN.

Pride is a big mother fucker with you Stephen.

Like we said, we are keen to meet up with you and the three of us having a long sincere brother-to-brother chat. We will let you know when a window of opportunity presents down-the-line and we will be back in contact with you. And yes, Hannah has made a huge effort to stop doing this, to stop being bogged down in 3rd party conflicts that goes on in between her ears. She is not out of the woods yet, but we are witnessing a young girl who has much longer periods of joy, happiness, contentment, peace, focus, etc, than she used to. As a child, Hannah was deeply damaged, no wonder she had many episodes of facing suicide and consistent sabotage of things important to her, habits going on for many many years well before we met her, and she has done all this hard work off her "own" back. All we've done is not buy into any of it while setting an example of how to handle life (behave) without having to "self"-implode. Hannah's confidence has grown a lot and she is now confronting her parents, her sister and brother with the intention to make whole with her family so they can all move on together happy, etc, without regrets etc. To us witnessing this is an eye opener.

14 hours ago

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Essence Mera

You are talking about your self Arthur. What your doing is very harmful but you can't see it because your stuck in a fallen system..open your eyes, so you can see listen to hear with your ears..feel the damage you are causing. I replied to Hannah privately in response to the private message she sent. Please stop forcing your will on us to given into your distorted system. The answer is no thanks. Do you understand?

15 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

The last post was not finished - we pressed enter to early. Refresh this webpage/thread.

15 hours ago

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Essence Mera

I am seriously going against my first feeling which was I did not wish to make any further comments to you Arthur and Fiona no matter what you came back with. I feel very lead to point out to you the harm you are directing here towards Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone by attacking him repeatedly.

In this attempt I make to communicate with you I hope you two can recognise how you are not actually 'hearing' him which is causing you to miss his communication instead playing out the victim vs victimiser game.

My gut feeling tells me you know exactly what you are doing in terms of tactics which you seem to gain enjoyment from, happy to be trapped under the illusion manipulation causing you not to recognise what you are actually 'saying' which is part of your distortion. I can evidence this by quoting some of your own comments...because you enjoy attacking others I want to show you why from foundation level you are not in synch with natural laws of creation based on your approach. Which is contrary to what you declare..

To begin with...

On the 13th of May at 5:59am
"Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone wrote this to you both Fiona and Arthur...he stated:

"Your information isn't the problem here, in fact most of it is very correct but for the parts that U don't know everything, just like anyone else doesnt know absolutely everything, your approach to projecting & sharing your information is really not that different to how religious fundamentalists do their 'my way or the highway' thing is it not? Your overall whole approach in this regard could do with some diligent revision could it not? Cos at the moment your approach in this regard is doing more to shoot your information in the foot with both barrels....something I sense very strongly that the man & woman that be that which U is/are here need to seriously consider."

Fiona on the 18th of May at 8:36 you replied to Gozaimasu by starting with some flowered words than you said this...

"We are like a large squad of police/detectives raiding a suspect's home for evidence, searching every nook and cranny of the house thoroughly. We leave no stone unturned in our search for truth because we know that only truth will get us out of the hell that is "The System". If anyone can show us where we are wrong in what we say, we are happy to clean up and move on because we are not attached to the work we do, although we will protect it "

Do you recognise how you are not hearing him and what you actually said publicly?? you basically said you are like a squad police raiding targets/suspect homes who are of interest to you...leaving no stone unturned searching, seeking and looking for information for the truth?? (By the way squad police take what they find without asking the suspects permission since you are not actually police officers this would be called stealing)

You are technically declaring....Your information which you founded your kingdom and system on...placing your selves Fiona and Arthur as the MAN and WOMAN of your kingdom does not belong to you as it is founded based on stolen information forcefully taken from others by means of your approach which you describe as "squad police" tactics. You force your will on people and steal from them? This is how you build your system ? This is the under lining of your kingdom (remember that) this is based on what you commented...does it remind you of anything?

Fiona and Arthur on the 18th of May at 8:37 you made a new comment and stated your intent... You said

"Our intention is to destroy the psyop programming that causes all the conflicts of "name", including the petty character bashing you are engaging in right now. How does your post help us all achieve the peace and freedom we all dream for? Can we come to your home and see how it is applied? Or at least some practical steps being implemented."

Do you recognise what your saying?....you speak for your selves... You subtly tell your targets/ suspects how you are going to steal from them and what your here to do..

Under the same comment box dated the 18th of May at 8:37 Fiona you also said:

"It appears that all you are doing is trying to create conflict, rather than seeing what we can do to work together to create lives we all dream of, lives of peace, freedom, joy, etc. Conflict has no place in lives such as these so why are you putting so much effort into creating conflict?"

Do you see it here?
You are basically telling him that he should be happy that you are trying to raid him.

In a new comment box also dated the 18th of May at 8:37 Fiona and Arthur wrote:

"If our information is "mostly correct", then why are you having a go at us? If you would like to point out where our information is not correct, we would be interested in hearing what you have to say to see if there is something we need to learn, as we have said above. We have never said that we know everything, and we repeatedly say that we want to continue learning everything we need to learn to shake off the system shackles. Is there a problem with this?"

Arthur and Fiona the above quote from your comment plus the comment boxes you made on the 18th of May at 8:38 plus at 8:39 what you did..

You spewed an attack on Gozaimasu While declaring your selves saints for trying to do the right thing and indicating your selves to be his victims and declaring friendship while attacking him for not buying into your system completely... He has already told you that most of your information is not the issue it was your 'approach'....but that seemed not enough for you? As you went on the rampage by using victim Vs victimiser game a cheap mind control and submission tactics.. I find this very peculiar why did you feel the need to continue to do that?

Do you feel you need his 100% approval for your kingdom and system? Why are you not satisfied with part approval?

For your own clarity sake.....This is what you specifically do...You bash with repeated long comments until you hook your target by using mind control tactics specifically designed for social networks discourse engagement programmed to get people to converse with you...you keep them hooked by using cheap Victim victimiser tactics to evoke defence entry point into your target so they lash out at you by using natural defence spewing out information as reaction to you sadly not realising they are giving you information...and you continue and continue until you take all you can from your target... This is one of your tactics this is how you act as rampaging squad officers, forcing entry and steal information from people as you admitted your selves.

Your last long comment on the 4 of May

"As far as we are concerned the fact you continually make things personal, which you do when writing in 3rd party".

Again same tactics...this is you two trying to evoke a reaction from Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone playing the "poor me/us" role

"clearly reveals you have very little confidence in backing up your arguments, your views, as in finding fault in what we actually say/write in first party".

Goading for information

"so instead you default back into 3rd party to go after the MAN (Arthur & Fiona) cause that is all you've got left. "

Now you made your selves a victim of Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone again...do you see your victim victimiser tactic... You should re- read his comments as well as yours to find recognition of your own contradiction and hypocrisy.. This time try and 'Hear' what he is telling you... He has been a lot more kinder to you considering how you keep trying to evoke a reaction out of him playing the victim victimiser game.

Then you declare an invitation for a visit at your convenience and use Hannah again??to justify your abuse and distorted system.

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Essence Mera

In terms of your turn around you declared over 200million people viewing your website.. I do not wish to sound like I am belittling your successes. .. it would curious if you didn't get even a minority number of people looking at your websites and system.

Considering the fact that since 2006 onwards especially in 2009 there has been an influx of people experiencing a spiritual awakening/ calling or what ever you wish to call it... The build up to the end of the Mayan calendar has been the concrete inspiration or means of interest which lead the curiosity of many pre 2012 as well as other factors including 9/11. In that respect there is a great deal amount of people who will look at all sorts of spiritual related systems seeking to clench this wave which is likely to continue to grow.

Growing number of people began seeking before many others did there is a lot of people who shifted from one system to the next looking and learning seeking for what fits or truth or what ever..you will find a lot of people will recognise what's distorted and what's not..because of their personal experiences as well as because of all the seeking they did for ex amount of years... Not everyone is going to give you 100% thumbs up. You have to accept that stop and take count and address the things you are not hearing... Don't just hear not what resonates for you..instead of attacking those who try to help you by willingly giving you constructive criticism based on their own years of seeking, experiences and learning.

On a final note and to provide you with clarity as to why your approach is harmful to others.. Firstly your victim Vs victimiser tactics and Going back to how you described your selves as "squad police"...and To define where your system approach is synched based on what you said.

We all know Police officers take what they find when searching a suspects property..you are not police officers under the current majority globule social system you would be regarded as breaking the laws by impersonating police officers which is a criminal offence and technically you should be arrested. Also because you are forcing entry as well as taking things/information which don't belong to you making you a thief..that's three counts criminal offence:

1) impersonating police officers
2) forcing an entry
3) theft.

On a living 3d level you have admitted to criminal offence on three counts which includes force, theft as well as impersonating.

When you look at this on a spiritual level you force your will on other individual's will, space causing constraints which goes against the natural laws of creation and divine birth rights of free will.

By that you present strong indication that your approach creation tool when building the foundation of your kingdom of which forms your tower is not in line with spirit (but you promote spirituality) or in synch with the rest of the natural creation laws in respecting free will but rather in line and in synch with the current globule social conditioning properties. In the spirit of things becuase you impose on free will by force it means you are not in synch with natural laws of creation.

What you basically said Fiona shows that your foundational approach is in line and in synch with the unnatural system created in this living condition. Trying to synch it with the spirit creating conflict with the natural laws of creation... This is why your kingdom of Babylon is fallen.

This living condition of which is based on law and order as well as monetary applications formed as means of controlling the masses. Which fundamentally places ongoing growing strains and constraints on Free will in the living restricting the individual's experiences and free flow within planet Earth. In conclusion the danger in terms of your approach is created at from foundation level is, it is in synch with unnatural laws created in the living conditioning. What ruling class do is they lie to us, they force their laws on us, restricting our movements, placing growing strains on our free will in the living by using the monetary system etc Everything you promote as spiritual in your website and everything you say has no real spirt or feelings..because from foundation level it was built by an approach tool in line and in synch with the distortion, illusions and manipulation created in 3d.

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Arthur Cristian

Stephen, some who are not your FB friends are writing to us saying they can't post comments on your wall, in this thread. Can you fix this and post a comment here when this is sorted. Some are even asking to be your FB friend so they can get involved in this discussion. Good on you for leaving everything out in the open for the wider-public to participate.

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The Cristian Family November 2006

Facebook Comments Referring To Part One Of This Thread

Link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203677889935853

Karl Grubmayr SO TRUE, I LOVE YOU.

10 May at 18:06

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Russell Williams

Have you personally met any of those whom you accuse, like Aussies Igan and Bonnaci and debated their alleged links?

10 May at 18:34

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Dominic Toomey

what garbage to take out, there would be no garbage and no dishes to wash."we" need to rewind before "we" were typecast as actors.

10 May at 18:34

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Arthur Cristian

Nigel Beckwith posted: Is it possible that "some" people can just be wrong, barking up the wrong tree..have a difference of opinion..without necessarily working directly for the system? Just a thought. I meet people all the time who clearly hate the system, but espouse some of its programming in trying to create a solution. I just think many of those are misguided.

We replied.......

We agree, some are like this = e-go trips but INTEL like Max Igan and Mark Darwin are another kettle of fish. Suggest doing a google inside the Love For Life website for these names and explore the info shared. There is a lot of reading and watching to do. We don't just post comments like these unless we've done our homework and are clear about what is really going on Nigel. We have had dealings with Mark Darwin since 2009 and Max Igan 2010/2011. Nigel, you know us better than most cause you have been involved with us since 2005 and have witnessed a lot of water go under the bridge since then. The heightened bullshit detectors through a vast aray of learning experiences has refined our abilties to zoom in and observe what is really going on with PSYOPS PRORAMS.

10 May at 18:36

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Russell Williams

Hey Arthur. You're back. That was quick.

10 May at 18:37

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Arthur Cristian

Russell, We've been dealing with Santos from afar for almost 2.5 years now. He wrote to us back then and afer asking him some tough questions he avoided us ever since, he backed off. He wanted to interview us on his radio show but we gave him full-disclosure as we are not into being sneeky. We prefer everything up front, all cards on the table. Not heard from him until a few weeks ago but we've been reading some of his material and watching some of his videos. Recently we chatted with Santos over the phone and again pointed out that almost everything he is on about to us is bullshit. It has been left for him to make a "time" suitable for the three of us to have a long discussion/debate which will be recorded. We are still waiting but he is busy like we are. Lets see if he makes this happen. Earlier this week Santos supporters contacted Santos to see what was happening with this pending Skype discussion. You will find these intense pro Santos supporter discussions on the FB wall - scroll down to find them.

10 May at 18:44

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Russell Williams

Good response Arthur. Well I guess well have to see if he fronts up and puts it on record. What about Max. Comes across fairly fair dinkum, but who know. It's not much different with you.. How do we know you too are not on the payroll?

10 May at 18:51

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Maria Maria

thank you

10 May at 18:59

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Dominic Toomey

because he's advocating no system hence no payroll

10 May at 19:12

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Dominic Toomey

what do you need money four?

10 May at 19:13

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Dominic Toomey

for,fore,faugh,forr

10 May at 19:13

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Spinny Spirals

Lol lmao..Russell...have you actually read Arthur and Fiona's work ??...:0)))

10 May at 19:15

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Russell Williams

I've read some of it yes. A lot of it great .. Like you, I tend take everything and everyone with a grain of salt. No ones got it all figured out, though the sign posts amongst the forest and trees are becoming more evident each day, as each moment goes by. Depends how one chooses to interpret immutable, unchanging Natural Law and how it connects with universal consciousness of everything.. Good luck all, I wish you all you well.

10 May at 19:38

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Arthur Cristian

Spinny, he doesn't sense as he reads - if he did he would see/sense clearly in our writings that we live for MANS true freedom. The replies to Jeanice and Capri in this post make this very very very clear. But each to their "own" hey.

10 May at 19:39

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Dominic Toomey

there's nothing too figure out,it's all a lie

10 May at 19:39

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Dominic Toomey

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10 May at 19:40

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Arthur Cristian

Nigel Beckwith

Well I love you. I don't always agree with what you say. But in your dealings with me I have always found you to be honest and earnest.

I think that many things can have alternate interpretations that do not condemn. But if you have seen something then so be it.

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Arthur Cristian

It's very very very clear in the writings, in this post too. These recent posts clearly exposes the PSYOP tactics right out in the open for all to see.

Have you read our replies to Jeanice and Caprice in this post and are you fully-comprehending what we've been sharing these past few months?

Are your eyes/senses wide open or are you still wearing a milder version of rose coloured glases?

We have clearly revealed to you the PSYOP TACTICS, how they create, implement and get the results they want.

What more do you want?

We don't ask you to agree with us but we ask you to find fault in what we're saying, to prove/back it with evidence, and we're not talking about bringing forth "belief" because you know they're not proof of fact.

10 May at 19:59

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Ricardo Almeida

Well I'm going to throw in what I've come to sense over time with all this stuff and in discussions with friends. All these people that talk about one-ness, collective, galactic federations, aliens, crystals, chakras, healing, geometry, shapes, secret societies, royalty and royal bloodlines, timelines, ages of darkness and golden ages, etc don't help me get out of the mess I've managed to get myself into.

While its all warm and fuzzy hearing about it all, if i can't feel with in myself its a clear indication that its a possible step closer to freedom and freedom of choice is not freedom. Love, abundance and peace then its not worth my energy, my time and my thoughts at all. Trying to work out the system and all its bullshit is just going to keep me longer in servitude. The way I've come to feel about the choices we have is, take the system and all the benefits/comforts/conveniences etc it has to offer but don't also winge/gripe/hate/cry about the bad parts of it.

After all its our shit we a swimming in OR get out/turn our backs on it all ...the system is the problem and the system is all we have in our heads. It's drummed into us from birth to death. It's on the tv, in the news, in newspapers, radio, etc, I mean come on ... we are born.

Then educated in the system way by our parents (not that they know any better) then straight to kindy to start brainwashing. Then at the end of the assembly line (once we do all the "tests" to regurgitate what they want to hear . get your asses to uni and/or work. Then work until your old and go sit in a corner until you keel over. There is something wrong with this so called life...

We give enough energy/time/labour/blood/life too to the system but in the end it does nothing but take life. That's all it does. Just take our life and we freely give it what it wants.

10 May at 20:09

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Mark DuBois

Perfectly stated, Ricardo. Yo Arthur, note he didn't need to cite any references. And he has more credibility than you do.

10 May at 20:16

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Mark DuBois

"Spinny, he doesn't sense as he reads - if he did he would see/sense clearly in our writings that we live for MANS true freedom." So now, you're THE expert on "true freedom'? Then why is Ricardo more free than you are? You're a liar, Arthur. THAT is a fact.

10 May at 20:29

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Mark DuBois

You keep the fuck off my friends walls or I'll rip you a new asshole, every time.

10 May at 20:48

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Spinny Spirals Wow...:0(((((

10 May at 21:09

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Andrew Gardiner

The world is in a downward spiral Bible prophecy and supernatural phenomenon is exciting

10 May at 21:14

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Dominic Toomey

there is no freedom

10 May at 21:24

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Dominic Toomey

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10 May at 21:25

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Brad Needs Acoffee

lucky I can speed read. haha

10 May at 21:32

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Arthur Cristian

e-motions have got the best of you right now Mark. Ricardo is a close mate and is not taking sides with anyone, he is just sharing his intentions, his life, his purpose. Ours is different, our lives are structured to rout out INTEL left, right and center. This is part of what we live for, many more to come. If you choose to continue processing curses through the pull of your e-motions then so be it, it's your choice, your life, your creations. We refuse to process lies and liars. Some of us have to do the really dirty work, this happens to be us.

10 May at 21:33

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Brad Needs Acoffee

no need to get a good book now. hah

10 May at 21:33

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Arthur Cristian

Nigel Beckwith

I have some other priorities at the moment. No one seems interested in the details of my concerns, I have got so irritated that people that I know to be bastards, are still so admired in the so called "truth community". Its starts to become a drain in itself trying to oust the non oustable (because of their blind followers). I mean what will it achieve if I look at your stuff and agree? The same as what you looking at my stuff or my views may achieve. In the end I think it important (for me) to be aware of who is playing games and who may be doing their stuff in earnest. Then try to forge ahead with our plan as well as we can. On the other hand I do not have a website so perhaps if I did and did not have the same constraints then perhaps I would. But fighting shills is also what the powers that be want us to do. I suggest doing it sparingly.

Also with some of the stupid things that people like our once mutual "living Christ" friend used to say and how much time he wasted in entirely misunderstanding as well as dismissing another's views based on his limited version of this game. In the end it seems like an oppression of ones own evolving consciousness to have to endure it.

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Arthur Cristian

If we were in the UK we would be helping you more hands on, our recent posts will be helping you heaps if you get your head around the truths/insights we share. Our lives are structured so we can expose shills left right and centre constantly. It must and needs to be done. Many will hate us for this but it needs to be done. Comes with the healing territory - we are separating the wheat from the chaff - we are parting the ways between light/truth and dark/lies

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Nigel Beckwith

We can only help to support each other on our paths and hope that one day our paths collide in a positive way.

10 May at 21:49

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Madhava Ananda Das

Looking like you are the only one we can trust & the whole world is agents working for the dark side- good to know LOL

10 May at 22:57

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Arthur Cristian

We've never made such claims and such thinking has never been part of our intentions. Are you trying to hijack our characters so you can impersonate us and let slip some slander or are you just coming on here to demonstrate the development of your smartarse?

10 May at 23:30

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Madhava Ananda Das

I am just amazed at your accusations of people who are actually doing something well presented and intelligent for the truth movement instead of just throwing dirt...This is how the power that be advance through the internal wars of those professing radical truth

10 May at 23:54

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Jenny Earthling

i always believe someone when they come right out and say something. "Mark Darwin replied: Yes Arthur, I am intel and so is Max"

11 May at 00:31

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Arthur Cristian

Ivana Zara Dostojevski

Arthur/Fiona can't you see how you're contradicting yourself. Look at all this tons and tons of the mind construct messages that you both are constantly delivering through this media. You both are seriously plugged in; BIGTIME!!! The way you chose to deliver your message and raise awareness is so bloody wrong; aggressive and counterproductive.....Who are you guys anyway? Someone who has that much time to spend in front a computer to write so much stuff all the time must be paid by someone?????? According to your profile picture you have 4 kids......I have one child and there is no way I could or want to spend that much time on fb while at the same time trying to look after her.........Also, you are making so much effort to discredit everyone else out there.....
There is no doubt that some serious intel is going around, but you guys are attacking everyone. That is raising some serious questions! You know the quote: "Seek the company of those who search for truth; run from those who have found it."

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Arthur Cristian

So you can't find any lies in what we've written?

It seems all you have currently on offer here is the pull of your e-motions that are the reflections/shadows bouncing to and fro between your ears that show up as winging, winning, moaning, groaning, complaining, etc, about our characters BUT no evidence to prove anything that we are lying.

All you are really doing here is trying to kidnap our characters so that you can impersonate them which provides you the means to sneak in your "righteous views" which is the dumping of all your e-motional baggage into your performance of our characters, and through this act, make it out that this baggage is actually coming from us, is our behaviour, is our intentions, are our thoughts, values, etc...... The fact is, this is NOT true because you made it all up, is FRAUD, is SLANDER, they are ALL lies, you are lying.

So you prefer to shoot the messenger than just focus on the message and find the lies in it and back it with incontrovertible evidence.

You see, we concentrate ONLY on the message which routs out the messenger, BIG DIFFERENCE HERE - TRUTH DOES NOT LIE.

Here is a challenge for you, see if you can rout us out through our messages, through the insights we share.

Ivana, you can come after our characters as much as you want BUT this is just the spin doctoring of your belief system, your e-motional baggage, none of it sticks with us because we know who we really are and what we are really doing. We are not interested in fitting into your per-conditioned, pre=determined box (expectations) of how we should be performing for you in all ways, how we should be showing up for you. How about you step outside of your box to have a good look at how uniqueness and originality operates elsewhere?

The fact is, your belief is NOT proof of fact. If you want FACTS, talk to Stephen, he's been here twice and we've had many chats over the phone/net or go to the Love For Life website and learn the truth about us and our values, attitudes, commitments, dreams, intentions, etc, from there or come and visit us for a day in East Bowral (70/80 minutes by car from Bondi outside peak hour traffic) and find out everything through direct experience.

11 May at 00:35

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Brett Anderson

Madhava, I don't see Arthur asking for your trust or selling you anything. On the other hand you are 'trusting' and putting your faith in those people you are defending, claiming that they are doing wonderful things for the "truth movement". What is the "truth movement" by the way? Can you define it? What is the truth? If indeed the truth you're talking about panders to any part of the current system (slavery) that we now experience then its got nothing to do with truth at all, its just opinions and second/third hand intellectual property that you can 'follow', and if you are following something or somebody then you are so removed from truth and freedom that you may as well be right back in the cage that you already thought you were breaking out of. If one sits back for a moment and examines these so called truth fighters and leaders of which ever 'truth' movement you care to name, its easy to see that they always lead no where except straight back into accepting the system and maybe painting it a pretty colour and calling it freedom. You have to realise that the purveyors of all of this a not dumb, they know our minds better then we do and they have us playing a merry game of deceit and musical chairs of follow the leader to no where. Forget personalities and heroes, they are all engineered and manipulated to divert, deceive and destroy any real rebellion against the system of control. Let go.

11 May at 00:47

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

People are in different layers of awakening, learning and growing, many vails of saytans deception,

11 May at 00:52

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Arthur Cristian

Spot on Brett - as usual, your pencil is always sharp.

11 May at 00:52

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Arthur Cristian

Agreed Ali, so we do what we do through unconditional love (all the virtues of love at play), to shift those veils, to remove them out of the way. We must confront (virtue of love) lies and liars everywhere and bring light into the darkness to remove those veils, the blind spots.

11 May at 00:55

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

But got get and hit to the core, house of Roth and rocker etc!

11 May at 01:35

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Jamie Langstrumpf

Awesome post!!!!**

11 May at 02:08

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Arthur Cristian

Ali, it is the Freemasonic/Satanic world of high-priests/priestesses behind the Church Of England, Roman Catholic Church, The Jesuits and "The Crown" of Britain who are fully responsible. They are the inventors of all occults and esoterics = BLACK-MAGIC which includes all religions, sheeple movements, alphabet languages, mathematics and geometry and everything derived from them which includes the whole of "The System" of every civilisation ever existed.

The Rothschilds & Rockefellers and are just red herrings, decoy-distractions, they are VERY VERY LOW down the ladder of the REAL power structures of the upper-levels behind Freemasonry/Satanism with all its orders, societies, fraternities, lodges, clubs, sects, cults, sororities, etc........

The most dangerous of the lot operate as "normal" people in every day life. Generally speaking, you will never be able to detect them. They blend in too well because they work as school teachers, carpenters, mechanics, office managers, business managers, etc, etc..... This is where they are brilliantly hidden away and these blokes (mostly men - some are women) are NOT involved directly in crimes nor are they paedophiles, etc, nor are they involved in the running of all the networks behind all their lodges, orders, societies, covens, etc, etc...........

They use all their subordinates to do all the dirty work. Their communications to their subordinates are done through telepathy, there is NO paper work or tongue over phone involved, and only small amounts of face to face meetings occur each year and this is sporadic and done cleverly (very-simply) too so as not to raise suspicion even amongst family members who have no idea what is really going on, that is until one of their children, if agreed by the cabal, is brought into their fold, BUT this requires many many many years of testing outside of this cabal, mainly through university and private tutoring, so as not to raise the child's suspicion that their parent is involved.

We can see/sense through the water of our breath where much has now been already revealed to us as to what is really going on. Anyone going after the banksters has bought a dummy and is a farce. Going after the banksters is not going to put an end to this Black Magic Cabal..

11 May at 04:33

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

Exactly

11 May at 04:31

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

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11 May at 04:31

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Arthur Cristian

We are dealing with an Aryan Judeo-Judaic Bloodline that is Ancient Greek in ancestry and is Ancient Egypt too. They are not Jews who were set up to be scapegoats for the entry into the NWO. The Jews are not responsible for the NWO.

11 May at 04:31

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

They guy in the video takes it Evan furth back

11 May at 04:40

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Arthur Cristian

There is a lot of re-presenting intellectual property going on here - we can help these people get even clearer BIG-TIME but we agree with much of the intentions behind what he says. Harm is even the clothes he wears, the building he is in, the metals he wears and uses, basically all the prosthetics. We need to meet these people to help them with what we've learnt.

11 May at 04:43

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Andrea Smith

I can't Understand Why You Have To Bag Others Put Replys Up And Quote Others On Walls. All Your Posts Are Long And Drawn Out babble With A Knife In Someones Back. Stick To Your Own Knowledge Get The Truth Out With Straight Forward Facts On Your Own Wall. I replied Once Only To Be Copied And Made A example Of On Your Wall And My Wall, Not appreciated. Love The Work You Do, But Throwing Stones Will Get You discredited, Attacking Others, Shill Or Not Is Focusing On The Wrong Information, Plenty Of Shills And Trolls, If Your Putting Out The Truth Stick To Your Own Truths And Spread It Far And Wide

11 May at 08:06

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Russell Williams

1000% agree with the above post. Too much bad energy slagging others who, whether they're right or wrong, give people an opportunity to think for themselves. On a side note, the very people being slagged are noted for asking those interested in their material, not to believe "anything" they say, but to further research and find out for themselves. That's the humility I expect of anyone who makes claims of having information to worthy of decent attention. Enough said...

11 May at 12:53

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Arthur Cristian

Russell, Andrea & Madhava. As we always say, "Don't believe what we say - work things out, use your brains/senses and go where the logic of truth/sense takes you but relying on belief as proof of fact doesn't work because belief is just reaction to trauma that is the pull of your e-motional baggage that you dredge up and blame others for."

Those you blame for your e-motional baggage are now the mirrors of your "own" con-struction. All you can now see is your reflection bouncing back at you of your "own" making. The complaints you make are not to be found in those you blame or in their work. They are only found in you.

If you don't like our close to the bone Love For Life work you don't have to read it and if you can genuinely find something that we say that is untruthful, we are always ready to hear it so we can clean up and move on if necessary. BUT this does not include attacks about how we write or about who we are.

Andrea - we do not put posts up to mock people or to encourage people to laugh at the writer of the post concerned. To us, it is all part of the learning process of ALL of us. We need to be able to point out the fiction (blind spots of perceived reality) in each others thoughts and words, all the while recognising that we are in the same boat, that we all have trauma, fiction addictions, etc. What is there to be ashamed about here? If you were free in your thoughts and feelings, you would not be upset by having your thoughts and views shared.

Your upsets come directly from the attachments you have to the reflections/shadows of your ALL-SEEING "I" mirror that is the possession of the demons that covet you in a Satanic grip of your own likeness. This is why you fight and blame others for everything going on. You are not free, and so attached to the mirror that you will attack anything that threatens your mirror.

When you start to look clear headedly using logic and scrutiny, you will want to smash that mirror because it is holding you in the darkness of your "own" making/projections. You think the mirror is who you are but it is not! The best thing we could possibly do for people is help them smash their mirrors by showing them what they are and how they have a hold on them, making people self-centred, victim, poor me, e-motionally-sensitive, etc, so that they can get beck to thinking and sensing through the true light of their consciousness.

None of you have had direct experience (first party to first party) with us, you haven't visited us, spent time (lived) with us, learnt how we think, feel and operate, etc. You know nothing about our family or our day-to-day lives and yet you act as though you do, that you are experts thus making things up about our intentions when in fact our intentions are totally different to what you make out!

And no, before you all rush in, we are not saying that we are perfect and that we do not have blind spots that we are working on.

Again, there are lots of claims being made about us that have not come from us. We never claim to be the only people coming from truth. Routing out the bad guys is a dirty job but we feel that someone has to do it because so many people are being hurt by them AND are being hooded and blinkered so they move from "The System" to the NWO without a clue about what is happening to them.

If we see this happening, what sort of people would we be if we stood by and said nothing?

The same as just about everyone living in "The System" witnessing suffering and destruction all around them and doing nothing about it. Or living next door to a family where the children were being abused and doing nothing about it.

Yes, people will hate us for it but better that we open some eyes and brains and be hated than we sit back being Mr and Mrs Nice while the harm, the spread of blind-spot-information by the INTEL agents, continues unabated. There are stealth and underhand tactics at play here, all going on in plain sight and we bring your attention to it through logic and sense. Dismiss it if you will but you can't say you haven't been warned.

All the stuff that you are posting to us as complaints about us is just your e-motional baggage, your blind spots which stop you thinking clearly about what is being said. They are your belief systems that are your confines. You are not operating out of fact, logic, senses or direct experience in the matters raised in this discussion.

You are operating out of your belief systems, your blind spots, which make you part of the problem (darkness spreading) because it keeps you from looking at truth (light) because you don't want to face it. These blind spots are your demons and you are admitting that they have power over you and you will do anything to protect them.

You don't want to look at what we are saying, which makes you part of the problem as you use your demons to attack us when we have done no harm to you. Where is the physical/sensory direct experience of how we have hurt you, or caused you loss or suffering or injury? Where is the evidence? And we are not talking about flights of fantasy streaming from the e-motional baggage of your blind-spots. If we are wrong, we are happy to admit it but so far no one has come up with any proof of fact. How about stepping out of the dark side and into the light and start using your senses.

The fact is, if we were all taking full responsibility for our lives, the INTEL agents wouldn't get a foot in the door because no one would be looking for someone to provide them with an answer, a remedy, a solution. They would be taking care of things without needing someone else to follow.

The "bad" energy is your "own" re-pressed e-motional baggage - it is all of you reacting and posting these deep-seated e-motional reactions of your trauma........ complaints, moaning, groaning, etc, and focusing/directing this "dark matter" on other peoples characters, the innocent, to use it as an excuse and as a shield to hide behind, while casting your "own" reflections/shadows (demons) (dispersions) upon others in an attempt to disguise the fact that this "demonic crap" actually comes from the three of you, in the misguided belief that others will not notice your "own" ugliness" appearing in your posts, like the ones you have dredged up here in this thread.

Refer to our last reply to Ivana for more on this as it applies to three of you, copied here.....

So you can't find any lies in what we've written?

It seems all you have currently on offer here is the pull of your e-motions that are the reflections/shadows bouncing to and fro between your ears that show up as winging, winning, moaning, groaning, complaining, etc, about our characters BUT no evidence to prove anything that we are lying.

All you are really doing here is trying to kidnap our characters so that you can impersonate them which provides you the means to sneak in your "righteous views" which is the dumping of all your e-motional baggage into your performance of our characters, and through this act, make it out that this baggage is actually coming from us, is our behaviour, is our intentions, are our thoughts, values, etc...... The fact is, this is NOT true because you made it all up, is FRAUD, is SLANDER, they are ALL lies, you are lying.

So you prefer to shoot the messenger than just focus on the message and find the lies in it and back it with incontrovertible evidence.

You see, we concentrate ONLY on the message which routs out the messenger, BIG DIFFERENCE HERE - TRUTH DOES NOT LIE.

Here is a challenge for you, see if you can rout us out through our messages, through the insights we share.

Ivana, you can come after our characters as much as you want BUT this is just the spin doctoring of your belief system, your e-motional baggage, none of it sticks with us because we know who we really are and what we are really doing. We are not interested in fitting into your per-conditioned, pre=determined box (expectations) of how we should be performing for you in all ways, how we should be showing up for you. How about you step outside of your box to have a good look at how uniqueness and originality operates elsewhere?

The fact is, your belief is NOT proof of fact. If you want FACTS, talk to Stephen, he's been here twice and we've had many chats over the phone/net or go to the Love For Life website and learn the truth about us and our values, attitudes, commitments, dreams, intentions, etc, from there or come and visit us for a day in East Bowral (70/80 minutes by car from Bondi outside peak hour traffic) and find out everything through direct experience

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For your interest, we have now helped over 30 families who have been TERRIBLY damaged by the work of Mark Darwin & his Truthology. When you come from the direct life experience that we do on the front-line you can see/sense through the absolute blind-bullshit the three of you are dredging up here. You are ignorant and have no real idea about what is really going on.

There are many people scared of Mark Darwin, particularly family members - there are many who wish to remain silent because of fears of reprisals orchestrated by Mark. Mark has been known to be a stand-over type of guy.

Here is an example: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7579

As for Max Igan, here is an example of his brainwashing tactics

A Spell Master At Work
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
21st April 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8401

And of his Intel tactics at work......

Max Igan & The Fraud Of The OPPT
(One Peoples Public Trust)

Facebook Discussion With Arthur & Fiona Cristian
17th to 19th February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8357

OPPT Is A Scam
Why "Self" Is Not MAN

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
21st February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8363

The Continuation Of The Max Igan Saga
21st August 2013
Facebook Discussion With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8478

And to repeat what we asked of Mark and Max to answer..........

Mark, please show us in all your work and in all Max's work, where you are providing freedom and not choice and that you are not providing the "names" of freedom and manipulating and using and abusing many, many people in the "name" of freedom, when it is only choice masquerading as freedom. How many curses are you manipulating into processing in the "name" of money as they react to trauma? You probably need to do some background work into what we are saying to comprehend fully what we are saying but, if you are really interested in truth and freedom for all, we assume that you will leave no stone unturned, in case you are on the wrong path. If you can't prove it and you won't change your ways, then who are you answerable to, who are you working for? Who is your master?

There are many INTEL agents out there spreading lies and causing people to get hurt in the process and there are also many, many people extremely angry about many, many things and some of them are vigilantes who have no problem carrying guns and using them. They have been reading our work, and the work of others who are putting out information that is waking people up to the truth of how people are being manipulated across the board. Many of them have been watching the scene for years and we have been asked to join them, which we will not do because we are not into violence. They have been harmed in various ways and those who are out there in front, leading the way in the psyop freedom/truth movement, as well as though associated with them, will be sitting ducks when the pressure cooker blows. For example, someone like Ivana could be a target if she is associated with you and associated with the INTEL networks that have caused so much harm to so many. Even Stephanie is a sitting duck, and all the others who support you. This is true healing that we are offering you here. Pull out, save your lives and stop the harm, stop the lying, stop the blatant manipulation. .
Our commitment is to wake people up to the real tactics and more and more people are waking up to how they have been used and abused. We don't think you guys realise the enormity of the backlash swelling against all INTEL.

This is Fiona and Arthur both writing in all these posts.

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And to copy what Brett Anderson posted.......

Brett Anderson to Madhava, I don't see Arthur asking for your trust or selling you anything. On the other hand you are 'trusting' and putting your faith in those people you are defending, claiming that they are doing wonderful things for the "truth movement". What is the "truth movement" by the way? Can you define it? What is the truth? If indeed the truth you're talking about panders to any part of the current system (slavery) that we now experience then its got nothing to do with truth at all, its just opinions and second/third hand intellectual property that you can 'follow', and if you are following something or somebody then you are so removed from truth and freedom that you may as well be right back in the cage that you already thought you were breaking out of. If one sits back for a moment and examines these so called truth fighters and leaders of which ever 'truth' movement you care to name, its easy to see that they always lead no where except straight back into accepting the system and maybe painting it a pretty colour and calling it freedom. You have to realise that the purveyors of all of this a not dumb, they know our minds better then we do and they have us playing a merry game of deceit and musical chairs of follow the leader to no where. Forget personalities and heroes, they are all engineered and manipulated to divert, deceive and destroy any real rebellion against the system of control. Let go

11 May at 16:11

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Dominic Toomey

sea the paturn

11 May at 17:48

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Ricardo Almeida

i am far from free.im heavily compromised.full of fear and trauma.but with small steps and the correct positive information i want to begin to move away from that state, and alot of help has come from Arthur & Family. I still don't believe everything anyone says , even Arthur. But what i do , do is take the information on-board. sit down sense if its correct or not then go away and research myself to see if it is as its being presented to me. Arthurs work or anybody elses work for that matter shouldn't be taken as gospel..

But if our minds aren't open to the possibility that what we think/believe is possibly not correct then thats a big problem.Most of the stuff that's out there is just exposing information that was allways there but never really spoken about...People who come to Arthur or anyone to ask what you think about this or that , then when they get the answer don't like it and get a bee under the bonnet , need to go back a few steps and really read whats being put infront of them.

While no one has all the answers and everything might come from different angles , we need to ourselves be open to everything coming our way and then being on the same wave length to discern intel,bullshit,garden paths,etcc. I've allways said to myself , if i don't make sense of it and it doesn't make sense to me AND i can't explain it simply to anyone then i don't understand it at all.

Not dismiss it right away.just means im not ready for that next piece of the puzzle yet. i am very thankful i met Arthur , fiona and Family. While i don't understand everything they put to me , i sure did see that what i thought was truth is just very very clever dis-information that's after i sat , listened , thought , and thought , and let go of my ego thinking that i knew everything just because i had been into this stuff for a few years.

What i thought i knew what just more crap to keep me busy in the system. All i want is to live in is peace , freedom , harmony , love & abundance and i have yet to see that in the system(not the illusion of it). The system provides me with hell , hurt , trauma , pain , suffering etcc.

I've come to the conclusion that all we really need if we could all just let go of it all stop thinking with the broken mind we have but instead do what feels right, come together to help each other not because we wanted something in return but because we love to help and it felt right the system would be no more...after all we are the system.

11 May at 18:06

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Dominic Toomey

make your way to the exit on the wright

11 May at 18:12

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Russell Williams

Thank you Arthur for the expended effort to respond to the three of us in question. As expected, because of our collective demonic crap that you're suggesting, we were always going to be wrong. I cant figure out if you're a genius or a comic, perhaps both. Mate, you may as well befriend me/us, as we, including those who oppose your views and opinions, are not as switched on to the "ABSOLUTE" like Arthur Cristian. Well done. Good luck. You da man!!!!

11 May at 19:36

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Arthur Cristian

The reflections in the mirror of you are the storytelling of all the books, pictures, words, letters you have been exposed to in your role as "NAME" in "The System".

They form the story of Russell the "NAME" but that is not who you really are, the living MAN Russell.

You didn't create any of them and you didn't create the trauma that rules you, the distorted life-force-energy of non-sensory images bouncing to and fro between the ears of all these unnatural stories that you are unwilling to let go of.

Collectively they form the e-go, the demon, that is "NAME", Russell, the reflection of Russell the MAN in the mirror, and all this collective storytelling, the belief systems, becomes the act of the demon, the impostor, performing as Russell the MAN. But Russell the MAN is not with us, only the "NAME" Russell is.

When the "NAME" Russell comes onto this wall and posts what he does, it is not Russell the MAN, just the demons that are the spells of all the storytelling spinning around in his head that form his belief systems and have the "NAME" Russell fight and argue for them to protect and validate them to give them power with the MAN Russell's life-force-energy.

This is all the demon has to offer; there is nothing else there. This performance is a façade, is a farce. They are are just the shadows and reflections of the MAN Russell the demon has claimed as its "own"...... mine, mine, mine, "i", "i", "i", etc, etc, etc.......

How can we say this?

Only the MAN Russell can come forward to act the storytelling of the "NAME" Russell but none of the characters in the stories of these belief systems, the "spells", can come forward as sensory-living-first parties.

This shows you the depth of demonic possession in the "NAME" of the MAN Russell.

And the other thing to notice is that the virtues of love of the MAN Russell are not present amongst the living having been pushed aside because the demon of the "NAME" Russell is in performance and the demon has nothing to do with the virtues of love, of light, of the MAN Russell. If it was, the MAN Russell would come forward as a simple MAN of truth, peace, love, sincerity, purity of intention, etc, etc, without weakness and without fear of confronting lies and liars. You see/sense, the MAN Russell is not of the darkness, only the "NAME" Russell is.

The way to break the "spells" is by learning not to set the "spells" into motion, by recognising that the pull of e-motion, the reaction to trauma, is the "spell", the "rite", the "demon" on offer needing your life-force-energy to give it power. Ignore these temptations, do something else creative where you can set your life-force-energy into motion to benefit the dream of life, nature, earth, MAN, without doing harm to MAN, earth, nature, like gardening, playing with children, going for a walk in nature or have a swim, etc, etc, anything that co-creates happy, bright, thoughts, etc.

Eventually the habit is far more powerful and as you have learnt to completely ignore the demon it eventually fades away to be no more.

What you have learnt to do is stop being self-centred. The reflections of e-motions, the reactions to trauma, bouncing to and fro between your ears is not you, it is the demon acting as the impostor of you as "NAME" and everything associated with "NAME" is of the demonic world that is "The System" of HELL too. Once you have overcome this challenge, you have welcomed paradise back into your life where it has always been. We've just been asleep while the demons, the reflection/s in the mirror of you, run amok.

11 May at 21:53

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

It's a hall of mirrors!!

11 May at 23:13

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Arthur Cristian

Yep, every non-sense image is a mirror/reflection/shadow.

11 May at 23:40

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Mark DuBois

Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone Love for Life!

12 May at 07:32

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Mark DuBois

This website has the most profound wisdom on our beloved mother earth, too!

http://loveforlife.com.au

12 May at 07:42

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Arthur Cristian

Every lie is a curse and every liar is processing curses and the processing of the curse comes upon the children, family, loved ones, grandparents, associates and other beneficiaries.of the liars too, this includes the pull of e-motional attachments to/with liars by whomever. There is now a separation of the ways going on between light and dark, truth and lies, no harm and doing harm, consciousness and unconsciousness, sense and non-sense and between eternal life and eternal death. We all have free will - its now up to each of us to choose which path to take.

12 May at 17:29

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We just watched this video about how to create a mind-control cult. Excellent and spot on. However the makers of this video are already part of a cult, are already practising the oc-cults before, during and after making this video. All the education, instruction and explanation they/we have received since sperm & egg is already the effects of the oc-cults upon us and we continue setting into motion the deep-seated psyop programming of the oc-cults upon us and upon everyone and everything all around us = "The System" of an occultic program.

It just shows us why we have to set into motion the Kindom remedy that stops us educating, instructing and explaining everything to our children. The only way to break this ocCULT stranglehold over us is to set each other free from each other but to do that we have to recognise and let go of our ocCULT trauma, the pull of e-motions of someone else's ocCULT-i-c image power in our heads that we have been dancing to, as well as working hard to clean up the damage we have all been party to.

"The System" is a cult, a program that tell us how we should live, how we should think, etc. It is an occult in itself.

An oc-cult.

While we have to use the occults, the tools of "The System" CULT, to get out of this, so long as we are clear in our intention to expand the light of the Kindom remedy (NO SYSTEM OF A CULT) at the end of the tunnel, the mass exodus from "The System" CULT, we will get there so that our children and our children's children are free from this CULT and we have stopped the power of the occults over all of us.

This requires a strong group of people committed no matter what and without doubt about each other and what they are doing, as well as being strong enough to withstand being called a cult, which we undoubtedly will be.

We are called a cult now when we are just a family + 1!

Those who attack people breaking away do so because they do not want to let go of "The System" CULT and do not have a remedy to "The System" CULT . They do not want us to leave the CULT of "The System", THEIR CULT.

This is why 2006-2007 we created The Steps of Kindom, a breaking away from "The System" CULT forevermore, a present-sense (being conscious) living remedy that focuses on do no harm and life is a gift.

This shuts people up because how can they attack do no harm and life is a gift!

How can that be a cult?!

To put the nail in the coffin of the dead and send them back to their dead ocCULTic world with their tail between their legs, we ask them for their remedy that provides freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, do no harm, no loss of uniqueness/originality and no slaves and rulers for everyone and everything = NO SYSTEM OF A CULT. By confronting them, we are showing them that they have nothing except "THE SYSTEM CULT to offer us.

This makes our intentions very clear and is not something people can really argue with if they are honest. If they are not, they will continue to fight for their oc-CULTic belief systems and continue to attack anything/anyone who threatens them.

AND, confronting them with these do no harm life is a gift remedy questions exposes them right out in the open for all to see. They have NOWHERE to hide............. enter Kate Of Gaia, Max Igan, Mark Darwin, David Icke, Michael Tsarion, George Green, Benjamin Fulford, Alex Jones, Santos Bonacci, Marl Passio, Zeitgeist, Thrive, Ubuntu, OPPT, Michael Tellinger, "Oneness Consciousness/One Earth" this or that, Deepak Chopra, David Wilcock, David Woolfe, Project Camelot/Project Avalon Bill & Kerrie, Mike Adams, Quantum Physics, System Science, Oprah Winfrey, Barack Obama, Queen Elizabeth, Prince William, EU, UN, NATO, WTO, WHO, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, ..... :) <3

Mind Control Cults
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnNSe5XYp6E

The Steps Of Kindom
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life 2006/2007
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

Routing Out Psyop Programs
Routs Out Intel Operatives
Kate of Gaia, Max Igan & Mark Darwin

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 31st May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8524

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Nicole LeCompte

The best thing I have ever done in my life at 45 yrs old is pick up the Holy Bible & actually read it instead of bashing it, like the marxist Darwinian I was growing up to be. I am now wide awake. EVERYTHING WE NEED TO KNOW IS WRITTEN IN THAT LITTLE BOOK. EVERYTHING!! it has exposed EVERYTHING demonic around us including the so called aliens...and UFO's. I have seen them with my own eyes and was almost deluded like so many other people. But I am a believer in Yeshua and YahWeh and learning how to develop a relationship with THEM. We were warned it is a mighty narrow path and we not make many friends.

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Arthur Cristian

Seeing them with your/our own eyes does not mean that they are not MAN-MADE.

Bring forward the first parties to back your claims - "Hello Yeshu", "Hello YahWeh", "Hello Aliens", "Hello UFO'S", please come forward so that we first parties can have a direct experience with all of you - we want to sit down and have a very long chat with you "guys" about many many things.

We are not interested in talking with other men and women who act as 3rd party impostors of you "guys" because if you do not come forward to back their claims they will be seen to be lying and committing fraud, if they keep saying you guys exist and are true/real.

To us, belief (re-presenting "intellectual property"/storytelling in 3rd party) is not proof of fact.

Please show us what you each do for nature/earth/life/reality that aids nature (includes all celestial bodies) in rolling along here and now?????

What of nature needs you guys to exist so they may exist????

Where are your children playing??????

Where are your ancestors buried?????

What is your address so we can visit you, have a bite to eat and a drink while sitting around a tree having many a laugh with you?????

Having 3rd party storytellers (believers) coming forward acting on behalf of you "higher almighty powerful beings" is NOT proof of claim/fact that you guys exist.

We are aware of MANS ability to manufacture UFO'S, the Germans had them flying around during the second world war. We know a lot about genetics and how MAN can create a vast array of genetically engineered abominations including splicing genes, cells, and altering them. Please show us that your UFO'S, "technology" and your "physical-conscious bodies are NOT MAN-made.

One of the tests we will ask you to do to prove your "higher almighty powers" is to move a complete mountain range from over there to over here without doing harm to anything/anyone.

If you don't come forward as a 1st party to engage all our senses (touch, taste, feel, smell, see, hear) as a direct experience, all we've still got here and now in present-sense are deeply brainwashed and traumatised 3rd party men, women & children acting as impostors of a God (believers).

To us this is the Freemasonic/Satanic trademark/blueprint of a Psyop Program where black-magic warlocks & witches are casting "name"/"word"-"spells" over their duped victims. They have been seduced/conned/tricked/deceived into using their deeply e-motion-all-i-sed (trauma based) imagination to fall under the crafted image power of Satanists, who use remote control, remote projection and remote viewing to e-motion-all-y compel (react to trauma - pull of -e-motion) their "hosts" to perform as 3rd party storytellers of a "God", Alien", UFO, Holy Book, Prophecy, in "NAME" ONLY!

Currently without a first part living God (higher power being) coming forward to back their claims/beLIEfS, the Bible remains as a 3rd party fiction. For many, many "years" now, we are still waiting for their "God" to come forward as a first party to back their claims.

As we say, "the thought of God is not God". To us, all bible believers are breaking their first commandment, "though shall have no other Gods before me". They break it because the thought of a God is just a MAN-made idea/picture of a God.

We still recognise that all experiences are MAN-made. We continue asking doubting Thomases to bring forward an experience without MAN being a party to that experience. Could you "higher beings" please break this presumption?

We also are aware of how Satanists/Freemasons use "time-codes" to con MAN into creating "self-fulfilling prophecies" (all prophecies are MAN-made, includes concrete and wooden statues of a Virgin Mary or a Jesus on a Cross weeping and bleeding, etc) and we've explained all this in great detail too. No one yet has been able to disprove the logical evidence about this either. Can you please prove otherwise?

His-Story/Her-Story

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
2005-2006

Much of his-story/her-story, ancient or not, has been twisted and unless you can rout out all the lies/liars you will be thinking everything you are reading is true and therefore be brainwashed - nothing to learn from brainwashing.

Were you there?

Do you know any 1st party you can bring forward who was there? And we're not talking about a brainwashed drone coming forward acting under costume and title, or not, as a 3rd party re-presentative of whatever his-story/her-story they claim to be true.

Up to roughly 1780AD, 99.99% of the total population of MAN all across Earth could not read and write any alphabet language and never did. Even up to 1930AD still more than 90% of the population of MAN all across earth were illiterate to alphabet languages. Today's supposed 6.7 to 7 billion population of MAN, all their ancestors going back through all recorded his-story/her-story had NOTHING to do with recording it because they could not read and write an alphabet language - they ONLY had their tribal/village tongue/talk/songs/arts/etc.....

The ONLY ones who could read and write to record his-story/her-story were the owners of the castles, the land-lords, land-barons, the royal families, aristocrats, the high-priest-hoods and all their scribes and lackeys and they roughly re-presented 20 per one million of the population of MAN going back through ALL recorded his-story/her-story.

The victors wrote ALL the his-story/her-story and it's biased to suit their short and long-term objectives/agendas. It was ONLY these privileged "chosen-ones" who recorded ALL his-story/her-story so no matter what version of alphabet-language history you dive into it was recorded by them. This is FACT. It took the better part of 20 years to master the "craft" and "practice" of an alphabet language and this included mastering mathematics and geometry/sacred geometry - all read and write alphabet languages are crafted out of mathematics and geometry/sacred geometry and all are abominations, all are make-believe, none are real/true - they are not our true tongue.

We are all the descendants of tribes of MAN all across Earth who were invaded, raped, pillaged, plundered, humiliated, ridiculed, abused, decimated, destroyed, and vast genocide was issued all-around. What remained, mainly deeply traumatised children were brainwashed into their conquerors version of their ancestors his-story/her-story so that through the generations they would completely lose connection with their ancestral tongues and word-of-mouth truths.

These invaders first came as missionaries, scientists, botanists, surveyors, geologists, historians, etc, etc, and they came and went for up to 200 years recording/documenting the tongues, customs, ways-of-life, the natural environment, etc, etc, and when they finished recording all their his-story/her-story they then sent in their warships and armies to decimate the tribes. This happened all-across-Earth, all over Europe, Americas, Asia-Pacific regions, etc, etc... All the Royal families of Europa are all the "SAME" bloodlines and all are under the power and control of the Freemasonic/Satanic world led by high-priests/priestesses who created ALL religions, philosophies, civilisations, cults, sects, races, occults, esoterics, "system science", etc, known throughout all recorded his-story/her-story.

The British Empire, not the slaves/drones/commoners/serfs, etc, under Britain, is the head, "The Crown" of "The System" of the Western World who conquered almost all of Earth, if not ALL, and are still in power today. They control America (war over America's Independence was orchestrated by Freemasons on all sides - all working together behind the scenes) , Russia (Bolshevik revolution), China (took them 300 years through the East India company and the opium wars to conquer China - and are still in power all over Asia), Canada, NZ, Australia, Japan (thanks to 2nd world war), Brazil, Argentina, Africa, India, etc, etc....... all of it.

When they conquered lands such as Australia the high-priests.priestesses carved up all the lands into parish lands and put a church in every parish and a priest in every church to deal with the sinners (processors of curses). It does not matter if the church is Protestant, Catholic, etc, they are ALL 100% controlled by the Freemasonic/Satanic world and you want to trust their history, particularly after all the effort they went into brainwashing men, women and children everywhere leading to all the invasions and wars that murdered over 100 billion men, women, children - this includes all the poisons, toxins, chemicals, eugenics, plagues, pestilence, vaccinations, weapons of mass destruction, agriculture, eating animals, dairy products, processed wheat, etc, (highly dangerous to our bodies), etc, etc, etc, they brought with them throughout all their sojourns across Earth under the guise of Ancient Egypt, Greece, Rome, Babylon, Persia, Assyria, China, Aztec, Maya, Inca, Sanskrit, etc, etc.

All these civilisations had read and write alphabet languages, mathematics and geometry/sacred-geometry and they all had royal families divinely appointed by God, high-priest-hoods divinely appointed by God and the rule of law of God divinely appointed by God. WHAT A COINCIDENCE. Nothing natural about any of this - all require extensive brainwashing-education to understand the make-believe con-structs they all are. You can change the name royal families, high-priest-hoods, God, etc to EU, NATO, WTO, WHO, UN, NWO, America, President, Prime Minister, Director, CEO, Senator, Treasurer, Professor, Academic, Bankster, Emperor, Dictator, Caesar, etc, etc, etc,......... its all the same non-sense rubbish used under different guises throughout all their systems of civilisations. "All are of "The System", their systems designed to maintain power and control over their captive slaves, generation after generation after generation"..... this says it all. If you want to learn more about this please read and watch our articles, videos, etc, ............

In their recorded "ages" of their his-story/her-story, the late 1100's/early 1200's, they started creating English primarily out of hieroglyphics/pictorial-mathematics, Hebrew, Greek, Latin, and they called English THE NEW WORLD LANGUAGE. The letter j/J did not exist until roughly 1520AD. It appears j/J was first used by Freemason/Satanist Francis Bacon alias William Shakespeare with the word Jew. Words like Jesus came out of Lesus which came out of Iesus/iesus which came out of Isis = Land Lord/Land-Baron/Pharaoh/etc ruling over serfs/commoners/slaves/etc. NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

English was crafted by French Judeo-Judaic Architects/draftsmen of law, what you refer to as Gods - judges, barristers, lawyers, etc... They (all the chosen ones of their cabal) are the Gods of English. Welcome to Alice in Wonderland Through The Looking Glass - Welcome To Dorothy Down The Yellow Brick Road In The Land Of Oz.

ALL BOOKS ARE ABOMINATIONS - ALL ALPHA LANGUAGES ARE ABOMINATIONS - ALL NUMERICS ARE ABOMINATIONS - they were all crafted for PSYOPS PROGRAMMING - There was no other purpose for them. While anyone believes in this non-sense they have become the abomination too.

Find a book, scroll, papyri, tablet, alpha language, mathematics, geometry/sacred geometry, recorded history, not part of "The System" of those/any recorded "ages". Can you do that? If you can't then this clearly reveals to you DARKNESS VISIBLE, demonstrating just how big this grand deception is and has been.

Every letter (image) of all alpha languages are incantations designed to craft "spells" set into motion by fallen/conned-MAN.

They called the crafting of "English" back in the 1200's. the "NEW WORLD LANGUAGE". The letter "j" did not exist until the 1500's either.

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

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Jaba WS

Arthur Cristian you don't get it! WE NEED TO BELIEVE in this things to SEE them LOL

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Arthur Cristian

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

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Arthur Cristian

I BELIEVE JABA - I BELIEVE........................

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Jaba WS

So you you finally SEE it??? I just closed my eyes and i saw the green man walking bye LOL

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Arthur Cristian

ALL SEEING I (EYE) - What more do you want Jaba? You want my soul too???

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Jaba WS

HAHA

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Kenneth Jeffrey Slem

Timeline Photos - A Dire Warning From Retired US Army Captain Terry M. Hestilow.
by: WorldTruth.TV

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Arthur Cristian

Nicole LeCompte, we are not laughing at you, the living MAN, we are just being very honest and sincere and frank with you about beLIEf and the terrible damage it does to MAN.

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Jaba WS

No we just dream of laughing ALL TOGETHER!

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Arthur Cristian

Exactly........

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Arthur Cristian

Nicole, where can millions of innocent children not exposed to "The System" or exposed to anyone who was exposed to "The System" go anywhere in nature to learn about God, Alien, UFO, Bible, a, b, c, 1, 2, 3, compass, square, etc, etc, without anyone already brainwashed by "The System" having to explain it to (educate/instruct) them?????? Can you please answer this question.

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The Cristian Family November 2006

Facebook Comments Referring
To Part Two Of This Thread
Exposing Max Igan's Psyop Program

A Disassociation From The Work of Kate of Gaia


In Reference To "Babylon Is Fallen" video - http://youtu.be/RnKjAiiKtdc
Link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203726940962098

Kate of Gaia has been using a vast part of the insights we've been sharing for many years now. This is not a problem but for the fact that we now feel that the work we share is being associated with things that Kate promotes that are contrary to what we write and that do nothing to provide remedy to our current state. When we take stuff from other people's work, we always acknowledge where it comes from, so there is no misunderstanding and people are clear about what is what.

Kate does not acknowledge where a good percentage of his work is coming from, the problem with this being that, while people are learning about the "name" and the ramifications of using the "name", they are NOT learning about the remedy to using the "name". Just stopping using the "name" will not get you out of "The System" and in fact will cause many many problems that impact family, friends, loved ones, community and those stupid enough to give up "name" without a working remedy in place to get out of "The System".

A practical remedy that can be applied in every day life is vital and this is what Kate is leaving out of the picture. You cannot just drop the name if you do not have a committed group around you supporting you, a committed group co-creating Kindom step by step so that each man or woman of that committed group can step out, one by one, as the situation allows. Refer to "The Steps of Kindom" and the other articles and videos in the sequential order posted below for the big picture.

Yes, we need to boycott "The System" but not without a plan and not without something in place so that the transition is peaceful and the chaos and inconvenience and hardship minimised. We are happy to have the insights we share spread around - we do not "own" the work we do - BUT we have to point out where the work is being used in a way that will NOT bring peace, freedom, etc for ALL.

If people start dropping the "Name" without a remedy in place, and they and those around them suffer greatly because of it, the backlash will come back on us and we will be blamed, even though this is not what we promote. Community Immunity is the key and you cannot just drop the "name" without a community backing you, unless you want to go bush, which in itself is not a long term remedy because, once the NWO fully kicks in, they will use their highly advanced tracking technology to find all those who have slipped away and kill them.

A strong community is the ONLY option for stepping out of "The System" because a strong community can stand up to the FORCE of "The System" and set an example of how to live without "The System" so that others can see the possibilities and start living this way, and so that those caught up in high positions in "The System" who fear for their lives have a sanctuary to come to. This is not the first time Kate has used the Love For Life work without any acknowledgement to us and this is not the first time we have pointed this out.

The mantras Kate is promoting are so close to the work we do that many who have read our work will associate us with the rest of the work Kate promotes. A problem? Only that when Kate's work backfires for those who do what he suggests and Kate is discredited, anyone associated with the same mantras, also gets discredited and written off, which is what happens with many people waking up. They rely on what they are told rather than taking responsibility for digging out the truth. This discrediting by association is whiteanting, whitewashing tactics.

The association of our work, coupled with the image Kate presents, could lead to a common INTEL situation where people try to give up the "name" BUT, without the remedy in place, suffer disastrous consequences and then turn around and say, "Hey, that didn't work. This is all rubbish. Kate's a fruitcake, a space cadet". By association, we are too.

Remember, part of the religion of chaos that is Satanism, is that they sacrifice their own for the greater cause, for the brotherhoods. They work together to protect their world, their system. They use the law, politics, the media, etc. It is controlled opposition to destruction.

Kate will be brought down and the flak comes back on us because our work has not been applied fully. We cannot control the mainstream media and get almost no air time on "alternative" channels so we will get very limited opportunities to clear up the misconceptions of our work.

As we always say, it is the people around you and forming strong groups of committed people that is the most important step, rather than still thinking self-centredly as in dropping My "name", MY contracts, MY system obligation, MY system benefits....... This brings the Love For Life work down to the same level as all the legal, freedom truth stuff out there; it is all about ME.

We pound remedy ALL the time because without a practical, step by step remedy in place, we have nothing and what Kate is doing is no different to all the David Ickes and Max Igans who complain about "The System" but have NO remedy to offer.

If Kate promoted us through her work, people would see the remedy but when Kate refuses to acknowledge where her work is coming from, people are kept apart from remedy. By not acknowledging our work, Kate is hijacking our mantras and, by doing so, hijacking our characters by association and impersonating our intentions by leaving out everything to do with remedy. This is what INTEL does to control outcomes. They take the matter out of our hands.

Kate says, "Stay the course. The path home is one of truth only and nothing else. Your willingness to stand in truth alone is yours alone and to the degree that you stand will be the same degree that you will become untouchable spiritually and, as a result, physically. As above, so below, after all."

Yes, we need to let go of the "name" but just doing so without being prepared and fully conscious of all the brainwashing tactics used to keep us attached to the "name" and "The System" will get us nowhere. More important than just letting go of the "name" is comprehending how we are trapped into fighting with each other and being divided from each other. You can decide to drop the "name" but all the brainwashing you have been subjected to will keep you firmly attached to "The System", any system, because you will not have learnt what it is to be fully responsible for your life and the lives of those around you. If everyone just dropped the "name", there would be chaos AND an Earth full of men and women still divided and easily conquerable for the "strong" to take command over. Enter the NWO.

If Kate is innocent of hijacking our work, and is a man of love and peace, he needs to honour where a lot of his work comes from and make clear the distinction between our work and the stuff he promotes that we are not into; soulless entities, reptilian brains, universal law, as above, so below, planet, etc.

Kate seems to be suggesting that these "soulless" entities are not man-made, not of MAN but of something "out there" not of Earth, who have invaded and taken MAN prisoner. To us, this is part of the psyop programs of INTEL operations, part of the grooming of the duped for the chaos and conflict that lead to the NWO.

We say that everything going wrong, including the demons possessing us, is man made and that we are fully responsible for everything that has happened to us, as well as for getting out of the mess that we have created. The INTEL networks need a global problem, a "them out there and us down here" situation so that they can bring in their global remedy. They need a one world problem whether a one world environmental disaster, a one world economic disaster or a one world alien invasion.

The people in positions of power in "The System" are men and women just like the rest of us, men and women who have been groomed for their roles since they were babies, but Kate says that they are soulless entities, suggesting something from "out there". Who is it? Is it aliens? Something hostile? Aliens are becoming the new terrorist. This is part of the psyop programming. We have challenged Kate many times to prove what he is saying about this stuff but he avoids it and carries on. Kate is very clever, too clever not to examine what he is promoting if others are pointing out that it may be untrue.

When we become victims to soulless entities, or to something "other" or "out there", we are no longer taking responsibility which leads to remedy. There is nothing in Kate's work to empower us to co-create remedy, step by step. "Stand in your truth and you will become invincible", to paraphrase Kate, is not a remedy. Kate talks in the "name" of freedom. He is not being freedom.

Kate, if you are innocent of this and are not trying to hijack our work and make it seem to be not what it is, please clear things up so people know where they stand. You are welcome to use the insights we share but please acknowledge what you use from our work and make clear the distinction between the work we share and what you promote that is different from us. AND, why don't you point out that Love For Life has a practical remedy to offer too, if people would like to read it. Let's have some goodwill and clarity here so that no one is left in the fog.

Fiona & Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
17th May 2014

Copied from the comments section of this thread......

We ask you to NOT believe anything we say/share and instead use scrutiny like an intense blow torch and go where the logic of truth/sense takes you. This is very, very important. Put everything you believe up to the test of scrutiny to see how it stacks up. If you are true to your heart/senses and go where the logic of truth/sense takes you will find that NO belief, etc, will stand up to the test of scrutiny. They just do not stack up because they are lies/fraud.

In the same way, if someone points out something that they think is wrong with our work, we will think about what they say and take it into consideration. This is not true for many people out there with audiences - we point out things to them where we do not see/sense truth, and they ignore it. How sincere are they in seeking truth then? If we are not prepared to bare who we are and everything we think and feel and subject those thoughts and feelings to scrutiny, we will never separate the truth from the lies.

The way Kate is promoting the "name" stuff could cause great harm to a lot of people. There is no REMEDY there. This is no different from David Icke and all the other "we will lead every revolution against us" shepherd who tell you everything that is wrong with the system (except the brainwashing tactics used - we tell you those) but do not offer a practical, day by day, step by step remedy.

We have been on the front line of this since we started Love For Life March 2005 and website December 2006. Our research into the big-picture goes back to 1971/1972 onwards.

We have dealt with many, many, many people, many families with young children, who are on the verge of losing everything or have already lost everything because they followed the add-vice of freedom truther sovereigns who told them all sorts of tactics that they said would work, only to find that, whoops, the FORCE of "The System" takes no notice of paperwork, of liens, of UCC filings, of "read off a script" dialogue.

And when everything is collapsing around them, are the freedom truther sovereigns there holding their hands and picking up the pieces? NOOOOOO. They are nowhere to be seen and they are certainly NOT taking FULL-responsibility for the fact that all the promises they made about their amazing methods have come to nothing. And this is not just one or two phone calls we have had, We are talking about HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of people with their lives in tatters.

If you can comprehend this, perhaps you can comprehend why we are so quick off the mark to point out where the work we share is being used in a way that could potentially cause a lot of harm, as well as where we see the work of others having the potential to do harm. We do not want our work, or us, to be associated with that harm because it discredits all the hard work we have put in over the years AND takes people away from looking at the remedy, the practical, day by day, step by step remedy we offer.

Kate is right when he says that we have to let go of the "name" but we cannot just do so without some preparation and, most importantly, without fully comprehending how the "name" works and how the brainwashing of "The System" keeps us addicted to using the "name" and attached to the "name".

Kate tells us to just give up the "name" and stand strong and we will become invincible. HHHMMMMM. Does he warn people that giving up the "name" also means giving up ALL the benefits and services of "The System" because it is our claiming of the "name" that gives us access to those benefits and services. Yep, from now on, no leases, no mortgages, no driver's licences, no healthcare, no banking, no insurance, no government pensions/handouts, no credit rating, no passport, no car registration, and, when they bring in a cashless society, no access to their shops = no food, water, shelter, etc, unless you have created a food forest or are happy to live off what you can forage. Does Kate make this clear to everyone? NO

We have people come to see us and they want to do what Arthur has done and give up all contracts with the "name" but we point out that the only reason he has been able to do so at this point is because he has people around him who are committed to supporting him. This is not something lightly done without a strong community around you.

When we have Kindoms off the ground, we will have places for people to come seeking refuge from "The System" where there will be food, shelter, water, nurturing and all for free. Then people can walk away from the "name" without having to go bush or sponge off those who maybe cannot afford it, do not comprehend it and do not have the support of others around them.

To those of you who have written to us accusing us of needing to put the ego to rest, or of not being "free" with our work, or of bickering, being divisive, of not being compassionate or humble, of not being sensitive about people awakening in different ways at different paces, and of whatever other sins we have committed by speaking honestly about the situation, did you actually consider any of the above points before rushing in to accuse us of all these things? Did you stop to think of the ramifications of Kate's video as described above? Or did you just write from your e-motional reaction to someone stirring the pot rather than sitting back being "nice"?

If we do not fully comprehend what has been done to us AND how the brainwashing tactics that keep us in "The System" work and have us fall for the "we will lead every revolution against us" shepherds, we will never escape "The System", be it this version or the next.

We take the FULL-responsibility we have seriously and we will continue to point out harm being done and falseHOODS being spread and will continue to point out harm being done and falseHOODS being spread even if EVERYONE hates us for it. At least we will have walked-the-talk!

Fiona & Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

From this thread: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203692712866417

A cow looking over the fence at a green pasture is still a slave to MAN, nothing has changed whether the cow remains in an existing enclosure or is led to another "greener pasture".

The point of true freedom is not to lead anyone or anything anywhere at any "time".

Everything about Christianity is this, despite some "good moral truths" and well-meaning people who truly want to help others and live good lives.

If only they would wake up to the brainwashing they have been subjected to!

Then they could lead even more powerful lives of TRUE-freedom.

What is the true freedom?

The "wild" animal that befriends you of its free-will or the animal that is captured and trained/forced to do MANS bidding?

Which freedom do you want to live for?

It's clear where we are heading - what the big picture is.

Christians are slaves to "The System" behind the Bible but they talk about freedom. The freedom they are talking about is "freedom" within "The System" which is no different from the cow going from one field to the next. This freedom is fraud because it is not real freedom. We commit fraud when we claim that we have our animals best interests at heart, all the while they are enslaved to us.

"The System" is just the image power of another MAN forcing others to live under their version of freedom in that image. Those images being the Kingdom of God, Freedom, etc. These are thoughts and ideas of another MAN. They are not unique and original to you. This is no different to the animals that we provide with stables and paddocks; they are not free. They are living under the image power that we place over them.

What is more invigorating; the wild horse who willingly allows you to get on its back and together as a shared experience go for a journey, with both of you having a unique, direct, shared experience, or the ride on a horse you have taken out of the stable and put a saddle on and then put the horse back in the stable after the ride?

What about children, brainwashed Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc.....?

Do you think educating them with The Bible is providing them with true freedom or is it the true loss of true freedom because they are subjected to another MANS FORCE of image power enforcing them under his/her/their image-power, their version of freedom?

Are you truly free in the supermarket as you shop or are you just provided with choices under the guise of "freedom"?

Why does MAN doubt that Living Creator provided everything MAN needs?

Why does MAN have to kidnap children to brainwash them under their IMAGE POWER?

Why does MAN doubt that Living-Creator has provided everything MANS child needs and everything every creature, plant, etc, needs?

Why do we have to act as impostors and trap unique original life-forms under our "storytelling"?

And we argue for this enslavement and we fight for it too.

Here is an example of this deception at play: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203677889935853

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Deanna Klastow

I want to say that EGO needs to take a back seat / I Love You and Your Wife for all the information shared and I Love Kate Rene for the same / Please open your heart and communicate instead of pointing fingers / we can never gain understanding if we think we have all the answers it is only in looking at things through different eyes that we get the whole picture. I really feel aligned with what Kate is saying about the words we use and identifying with the name and I also am aligned with the work of you and your wife. Both are valuable and both are moving us closer to the true path~ Love and Light ~ Namaste

17 May at 09:38

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Deanna Klastow

We are all at different levels of awakening and Kates information may awaken a certain person and your information might awaken a different person / That's why I Love the fact that many are doing and because of the difference in the awakened we are able to reach a wider array of people ~ If we say we are awakened and then bicker amongst each other on social media instead of talking in a private message to gain understanding between friends Then what message is being sent~ Like I said WE ARE ALL REMEMBERING LOVE

17 May at 09:42

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Rhokeheart Burkett

Why try to disassociate and why assume so much? You figure if Kate is "on the right track" you would try to integrate her work not disassociate from it. Seems like you should be teaming up with Kate not distancing yourself. I must question the intent of this post. Are you trying to create a conflict? Just cause Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin had similar sounds it doesn't mean Zeppelin was ripping of Sabbath or vice versa similar things manifest simultaneously. Truth recognizes no copyrights don't let your ego and it's lust for conflict distort whatever truth you may have found. Kate isn't ripping off anyones work she treads her own path.

17 May at 14:01

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Roy Turpin

Truth is shared with love. We all have been given a gift and that gift is for all. All I Am and have is available to all. Everything created through me has been given to me as a gift so how can I in truth lay any claim to it?

17 May at 11:02

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Brand Newman

https://soundcloud.com/brand-newman/a-7-year-old-can-do-it

A 7 Year Old Can Do It
A clip from Outside the box radio show, hosted by kate of gaia and the emerald table.

17 May at 12:34

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Sarah NoahKai

17 May at 12:59

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Arthur Cristian

@ Roy, if Truth is shared with love then this means FULL-DISCLOSURE otherwise it ain't the truth, it is something less than truth, a truth full of blind-spots to mislead the duped with. In the "name" of freedom is not freedom, is not truth and instead to the duped conned into believing in the "name" of freedom", it is a complete sabotage of real freedom because it has been forsaken for a shadow/reflection of truth/freedom. Here is an example of this deception at play: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203677889935853

This is a conversation with people that we claim are INTEL agents, Mark Darwin of Truthology and Max Igan. It all started because we asked Ivana https://www.facebook.com/ivana.dirlicsindija/posts/10152427160663469 why she was taking our posts down from her Facebook Wall when the information we are putting up is to help people wake up to how they are being manipulated. This is what Ivana says she lives/stands for too. We also said that Mark Darwin and Max Igan were INTEL BIG-TIME, implying, why is she protecting them by taking down posts that rout them out. Ivana posted this (above link): To my Perth friends! Don't miss this opportunity...Freedom Summit is going on tonight in your neighborhood....And they are offering free tickets!!! Lucky you guys I went to see it here in Sydney and it was a brilliant event. There are some amazing speakers to be there ......Don't miss it!

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Ivana replied:

Max Igan is not intel......neither is Mark Darwin. You got that wrong, BIGTIME Arthur/Fiona! Bigtime! By the way, I don't like when people sharing their stuff on my wall as a separate posts.....if there is something you want to say related to specific thread feel free and post it under that thread, but pls don't use my wall to promote your messages....it's not cool. Ta

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Mark Darwin replied:

Yes Arthur, I am intell and so is Max...... Mate you discredit yourself BIGTIME with such rubbish posts. Heal mate....

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We replied with these posts.............

In reference to this video posted here: https://www.facebook.com/jeanice.barcelo/posts/10203671779503096, Jeanice Barcello wrote today asking: Arthur Cristian - can you share more of your thoughts about the metal bowls? Do you feel the same about crystal bowls?

Hi Jeanice, everything of nature/earth/life, all sensory-life-forms, inanimate or not, has an ORIGINAL purpose for the dream of life - they exist where they are for that purpose. All we need to do is attune with them for them to reveal their true purpose with each of us.

This is very different to having your head spinning with stories about crystals, crystal healings, metal bowl resonances, etc, etc, not coming from these sensory-life-forms, BUT coming from impostors who hijacked the natural characters (information) of sensory-life-forms so they can impersonate them, to act as the 3rd party storytellers of information about the crystals that has not come directly from the crystals, etc, and making out that it does. The fact is this is a lie, they are lying, they made it all up and are the blind-spots making a terrible mess of our real lives.

Just as every grain of sand is unique/original, so is every crystal, so is every MAN. So how can we say that "quartz crystals do this and are good for that" when by doing so we are lumping all quartz crystals in one basket and all of MAN in one basket. Every time someone puts something in our head and we superimpose it on life, we are creating a blind spot because we are not communicating directly with the life form. This is how we form "The System".

This blind spot is a demon controlling your thoughts, feelings (turned/twisted into e-motions) and actions. How many blind spots do we all have, as we struggle to reclaim who we really are?????? We just have to keep recognising them and letting go, recognising them and letting go, recognising them and letting go, and trying to remain humble because we can be sure that the area where we put our noses in the air and either refuse to acknowledge our blind spots or justify them, are the areas where we are most in the grip of the demons.

EVERYTHING of the dream of life is sacred - not just the crystal spots, or the pristine spots, or a "special" tree. Even the land we have scarred and carved is sacred, even if it doesn't seem so because of what we have done to it. All the carving and scarring is the blind spots telling us that it is ok to carve and scar, which is why it is carved and scarred. If we didn't have the story telling of cars, non-natural houses, mobile phones, ovens, etc, in our heads, we would never think to have mines, or to create roads, etc. Same with mining for crystals.

The uniqueness and originality of everything in its natural, original and unique "place" is what allies with our uniqueness and originality too. If we are brought up by pristine nature, we are able to tune into the uniqueness and originality about everything and the uniqueness and originality of everything brings out the uniqueness and originality of each of us, which resonates back with nature. We co-create nature with our unique and original thoughts and dreams and nature gives us access to the unique, original thoughts and dreams of all of MAN co-creating with nature. This allows us to be present to all of creation to create our uniqueness/originality which expands the unique original dream of life with the presence of our unique original lives.

Imagine being a young child in nature without any system thoughts and stories in our heads; we have the natural ability to access all the uniqueness and originality of every life form of nature right here and now, the WHOLE of it, in present sense because that information is who we really are, it is our consciousness. And there is no "journey", no "ritual", no "training", to get to the information - it is there in present sense at every moment. It is only when we get blind spots that we disconnect from consciousness in present sense, creating "time", distance and separation so that we are no longer conscious of the information of the dream of life. It is when we are no longer conscious that we are able to scar, carve and destroy, unable and unwilling to sense the harm we are causing. We no longer sense the original unique purpose of what we are destroying. Our heritage has become an abomination passed on to our progeny. We have forsaken vast "parts" of who we really are.

Everything of life, from the ocean beds to the highest mountains, to the forests, to all the celestial bodies, to everything deep beneath Earth, is the breeze of MANS consciousness blowing across Earth to ruffle our hair and caress our faces, it is the warm embracing sunlight of MANS unique and original truth raising each of us in the joy and celebration of our elation for being the unique and original MAN we all really are. It is constantly present.

Untampered by "system thought", the blind spots, we honour, protect, celebrate, rejoice, nurture, and expand the uniqueness of our ancestors as our children will honour and protect ours, as we protect theirs by protecting them from system thought, the blind-spots. But alas, this is not to be - we are all deeply bogged down with storytelling blind-spots that are demons leading us out front with almost everything we think feel and do for a whole life-"time", destroying the uniqueness and originality of all of life. We are now the scarred and carved remains of who we were meant to be, of MAN. And people want to buy crystals that have been carved from Earth and sit "feeling their power" and performing rituals with them. Are crystals powerful? Of course they are, but in our present dumbed down state, we have no idea how to connect with them or use them to aid in our co-creation.

And here we are, creating "freedom" movements, trying to create freedom and truth for each other, all the time we are continuing to scar, carve and destroy MAN/Earth/nature. We already are uniquely and originally free, we just have to live it, be it (be left alone untampered to be truly free), just as all the information we need of creation, of our creation, is available, if we would only sense it, if our heads hadn't been tampered with.

How do foundations/trust/money/commerce/movements of freedom, etc, create freedom? They are just image power blind spots and this is what the whole Freemasonic/Satanic Intel world is all about - capturing gullible people through their blind spots, through storytelling from third parties, which is what the freedom/truth movement and all the INTEL agents involved is all about, desecrating our fellow MAN. It is full of men and women acting as imposters of a freedom (the thought of freedom is not freedom) over other men and women by claiming that their story telling of a freedom is the story of freedom when this is a BLATANT LIE.

How can you re-present another MAN and have the MAN still be unique and original? You can't it is impossible.

The freedom/truther INTEL agents come as rescuers, saviours, messiahs, etc, just as the Knights Templars waded into the Crusades, and performed benevolent works. They rescued those under a deeply traumatised image power problem to put them into another deeply traumatised image power problem. Nothing changed. The trauma, the blind spots, never left them.

The sleight of hand cleverly crafts its deception.

Everything about the Freemasonic/Satanic world is about Kidnapping MAN and putting MAN under the image power of their stories, their blind spots.

Nothing has changed.

This is blatant black magic because they are forcing other men and women under their image power of a freedom of their standing, their storytelling of freedom that forces everyone under their standing of a freedom. There is no uniqueness and originality of MAN here. It is still all about the "name" of freedom and we are just imposters committing fraud. One freedom fits all - this is communism, socialism, dictatorship, the Cesar Empire, democracy, the reincarnation of Roman Catholic Church and the Church of England under the Start Trek Federation version of freedom, aka the New World Order.

Watch out for the rescuers who come to lead you out of the frying pan into the fire. Watch out for Sacha Stone with his HUMANITAD, NEW EARTH PROJECT (Ushering In A New Era Of Planetary Innovation And Leadership - lolllllll), watch out for Frank O'Collins with his UCADIA and ONE HEAVEN, watch out for THRIVE, ZEITGEIST, UBUNTU, OPPT, SWISSINDO, ONE EARTH this or that, NEW WORLD this or that, ONE CONSCIOUSNESS this or that, watch out for David Icke, Jordan Maxwell, Kevin Annett, Benjamin Fulford, Mark Passio, Santos Bonacci ASTROTHEOLOGY, etc, watch out for FREEDOM this or that movements, organisations, like Mark Darwin with his TRUTHOLOGY and FREEDOM SUMMITS, etc, as THEY ARE ALL Knights Templar (Freemasonic/Satanic) engineered Intel bullshit. They are all blind-spots for the duped to remain blind to who they really are and what they are really part of. They are ALL shepherds to the sheeple, the duped.

With all of these movements/shepherds, everything is in the "name". It is not naturally expressed and lived in/of the MAN. It is the "name" Zeitgeist, the "name" Ubuntu", the "name" OPPT, the "name" Freedom. These are all shadows/reflections bouncing to and fro between the victims ears and they are all the blind spots keeping victims under control and pliant.

There are multi millions of men, women and children suffering under "The System", the blind spots, now being got at with the very same methods that got them in this situation in the first place, under the guise of getting them out of "The System". They are being provided with another system ("NAME") of "freedom"!

We are all unique and original, not one the same as the next, so how can we be provided with the same, textbook freedom?

This is a lie, fraud.

This problem is appearing everywhere now - remedies full of mantras that sound as though they are offering just what we need but are in fact only offering conformity and more image power, the blind spots. Again, we are relying on others to provide us with Freedom through the "name" Freedom, rather than taking FULL-responsibility for our lives in present-sense. Best we are all left alone to recreate our real-lives uniquely.

To expand on these themes in greater detail please read this post http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514 and follow the sequential order links provided to other Love For Life articles and videos which collectively provide the big-picture we see/sense, particularly these posts, listed below.

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At this link: https://www.facebook.com/kipper/posts/10203671756662525

Capri Adirim posted this comment:

Sacha Stone Beyond Time, Money & Fear - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKVT1p18-o4&feature=share
New Earth Founder Sacha Stone interviewed by CNW TV in Belgium. This short (graphically animated) interview outlines the New Earth vision and it's zero-point dimension. Please SHARE this widely and join the rising chorus of sovereignty and consciousness-in-action.

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We replied......

The World is "The System" - no such thing as "Old" Earth and "New" Earth - If we accept, honour, protect, nurture and celebrate uniqueness/originality of everything and don't interfere whatsoever then there is no "old" or :new" - just creation/co-creation of life from instant to instant of our every breath.

Some of the Humanitad members are Intel, people like Jerry Prus & John Walsh - He is revealing his part in the NWO ---- he says..... in reference to Chile "held in the protectorate in the "trust" outside the jurisdiction of any nation state under pure law".

WHAT A LOAD OF SPIN-DOCTORING BULLSHIT THIS. IS.... "UNDER PURE LAW".

What Pure Law?

Whose Pure Law?

And who were the legal-papers filed to/with?

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Capri Adirim replied

Arthur he said 'pure law' is individual law. We each choose individually. "Do no harm" imho should be universal.

Arthur, I am sure even within your own home their are 'rules' such as keep the toilet seat down, keep the music at a level that does not disrupt other members of the family that say are trying to sleep/nap etc. etc. Ones 'job/rule' may be that one takes out the garbage while the other does dishes etc. Unless we live completely autonomous (no other human beings around to interact/commune with) then in reality we can't really 'do as we please'.

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We replied................

And who is this lawful legal authority, based in pure law, with the power/force to protect this community?

Sounds like the Federation (NWO) of Star Trek coming together behind the scenes. Watch out..... anyone who believes this shit is being had, are being led down another yellow brick road.

And has faculties for "economics"!

And much of the infrastructure are dead corpse buildings requiring "The System" to build, maintain them etc..... The NWO is a cashless economy which AND he supports "Virtual Government" ----- UNDER UNIVERSAL LAW..... LOLLLLLLL etc, etc..... This is not a remedy whatsoever.

He also says "the mask is almost off and once that mask falls and the emperor is found to have no clothes standing behind the curtain the "world" is going to change very very quickly......"

Would love to have a discussion with him". He wrote to us a few years ago. He never answered the questions we raised with him back then.

This post is expanding on what we wrote to Jeanice Barcello as posted above:

They are BLIND SPOTS Capri...... there is no such thing as "individual law" and "universal", again this is "NAME" "individual law" and "NAME" "universal", implying "NAME" do no harm "uni-verse all law" and implying "NAME" "FREEDOM"

Remember the stuff we put up about phonetics: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203667898126064 (there are a few of the same post floating around, this is just one of them)

Universe = UNI - VERSE - ALL = brainwashing = blind spots.

Individual = In Divide U All = brainwashing = blind spots.

Uni = ONE = a combining form occurring in loanwords from Latin (universe ), used, with the meaning “one,” in the formation of compound words (unicycle ) - NOTICE THE WORD "LOAN-WORDS" MEANING NOT YOURS and CHOICE - THIS IS NOT FREEDOM.

Verse = metrical composition; poetry, especially as involving metrical form. a particular type of metrical line: a hexameter verse. a succession of metrical feet written, printed, or orally composed as one line; one of the lines of a poem. (not in technical use) a stanza. MEANING = CONTRIVED, MECHANICAL, PRE-DETERMINED = this is not freedom - this is CHOICE! You did not dream, invent and manufacture the car, you just learnt to drive and started driving it. Again, this is not freedom, this is choice.

All = the whole of (used in referring to quantity, extent, or duration): all the cake; all the way; all year. the whole number of (used in referring to individuals or particulars, taken collectively): all students. the greatest possible (used in referring to quality or degree): with all due respect; with all speed. every: all kinds; all sorts. any; any whatever: beyond all doubt. MEANING = ONE SHOE FITS ALL FOREVER = ONE SYSTEM (many system thoughts in one system = law - individual law, pure law, universal law and all other bullshit laws conjured up) - THIS IS ABSOLUTE - THIS IS ALL THE CHOICES YOU'VE GOT - THIS IS NOT FREEDOM!

Metrical = pertaining to meter or poetic measure. composed in meter or verse. pertaining to measurement. MEANING - RULES MADE UP BY SOMEONE ELSE - NOT YOU - Again, CHOICE - NOT FREEDOM!

Measurement = the act of measuring. a measured dimension. extent, size, etc., ascertained by measuring. a system of measuring or measures: liquid measurement. MEANING - THE ENCLOSURE - YOU CAN'T OPERATE/THINK OUTSIDE IT.

Unicycle = a vehicle with one wheel, especially a pedal-driven device kept upright and steered by body balance, commonly used by acrobats and other performers. - MEANING - YOU ONLY HAVE ONE OPTION = CHOICE - YOU ARE TRAPPED IN THE CYCLE OF THE UNI ---------- VERSE

In = (used to indicate inclusion within space, a place, or limits): walking in the park. (used to indicate inclusion within something abstract or immaterial): in politics; in the autumn. (used to indicate inclusion within or occurrence during a period or limit of time): in ancient times; a task done in ten minutes. (used to indicate limitation or qualification, as of situation, condition, relation, manner, action, etc.): to speak in a whisper; to be similar in appearance. (used to indicate means): sketched in ink; spoken in French. MEANING = Inside the enclosure, the word spells of "name" that imprison you, which all comes from education. You have had 20 years + experience of system thought to prepare you for the "name" words of Sacha, etc. Very few of us have original thoughts. This is all black magic in action, compelling you to perform under these word spells of "name".

Divid (in prescriptions) divide. In Latin, divid means divide

Divide = to separate into parts, groups, sections, etc. to separate or part from something else; sunder; cut off. to deal out in parts; distribute in shares; apportion. to cleave; part. to separate in opinion or feeling; cause to disagree: The issue divided the senators. MEANING = SEPARATION FROM DIRECT EXPERIENCE WITH NATURE = SEPARATION FROM WHO WE REALLY ARE AND WHAT WE ARE REALLY PART OF. Why else would you fight for the spells that Sacha is weaving? Blind spots keeping you blind to the "name" spells. All this is reaction to trauma.

U = You = the pronoun of the second person singular or plural, used of the person or persons being addressed, in the nominative or objective case: You are the highest bidder. It is you who are to blame. We can't help you. This package came for you. Did she give you the book? one; anyone; people in general: a tiny animal you can't even see. (used in apposition with the subject of a sentence, sometimes repeated for emphasis following the subject): You children pay attention. You rascal, you! Informal. (used in place of the pronoun your before a gerund): There's no sense in you getting upset. Archaic. a. yourself; yourselves: Get you home. Make you ready. b. a plural form of the pronoun ye. noun, plural yous. something or someone closely identified with or resembling the person addressed: Don't buy the bright red shirt—it just isn't you. It was like seeing another you. the nature or character of the person addressed: Try to discover the hidden you. MEANING = THE IDENTIFICATION OF THE HUE-MAN WITH THE "NAMES" OF "THE SYSTEM" - THE REFLECTION/SHADOWS OF YOU BOUNCING TO AND FRO BETWEEN THE EARS THAT IS NOT YOU.

All = REFER ABOVE

Individual = They divide us with their brainwashing of creed, culture, nation, etc, and rule us with the choices they provide us to perform "name" in "The System" - You did not create the English language with legalese, its mathematics, its geometry, its university courses & careers, titles, standings, etc, you did not create the education, religion, politics, law, Hollywood, TV, Media, Advertising, entertainment, supermarkets, highways, transport, corporations doing whatever, etc, etc, AND YOU DID NOT CREATE "NAME". They are all just choices provided for you. THIS IS NOT FREEDOM. See the post on the Mountain MAN charged and arrested with eating food in the forest because he was hungry: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203666156282519

You are seriously mistaking choice for freedom here. Choice has nothing to do with freedom. Shopping down the aisles of a supermarket is not freedom, it is choice, its ALL BEEN PROVIDED FOR YOU BY OTHERS = slaves/slavery.

What you are seeing is a BLATANT PSYOP PROGRAM where you have been hypnotised to perform to suggestion, to move to your master's command, all the while in a deep sleep.

The extensive brainwashing you have already been provided with is where you use your choice for imagining "individual law" or "universal law" and with it, "freedom". There is NO FREEDOM here. Only sheeple go through the gates of enclosures of one choice of green paddock to another but they have no freedom because they were already enclosed and forced by sheep dogs, etc, to move from one enclosure to another. Sheeple do the same thing when shopping down the isles of supermarkets or driving on roads to petrol stations, clothing shops, etc, etc......

IT IS ALL CHOICE - IT IS NOT FREEDOM

In fact, only sheeple are trapped in the UNI-VERSE-ALL that is ONE STORY going around and around and around their heads, bouncing to and fro as shadows/reflections of "name" "freedom", but this is a blatant lie because it was really only a choice already provided for them - they were already got at before they were duped into believing they had freedom within the story-telling of the uni-verse they are performing/believing in as "NAME" "FREEDOM".

Working together as a team effort around the home has NOTHING to do with universal or individual law. That is freedom when all first parties come to the table to co-create their uniqueness/originality for the team effort. NOTE: there are no third parties coming in-between any of them, telling them how to think, feel and act about anything. A MASSIVE DIFFERENCE HERE.

We need to be really vigilant and discerning about the blind-spots that are making a mess of our lives as we think/believe they are part of our true-freedom, when the FACT is, they were choices, and nothing more, meaning there is no freedom to be found there = YOU HAVE NO FREEDOM.

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We then posted all of the above on Ivana's thread and then posted this comment

Mark, please show us in all your work and in all Max's work, where you are providing freedom and not choice and that you are not providing the "names" of freedom and manipulating and using and abusing many, many people in the "name" of freedom, when it is only choice masquerading as freedom. How many curses are you manipulating into processing in the "name" of money as they react to trauma? You probably need to do some background work into what we are saying to comprehend fully what we are saying but, if you are really interested in truth and freedom for all, we assume that you will leave no stone unturned, in case you are on the wrong path. If you can't prove it and you won't change your ways, then who are you answerable to, who are you working for? Who is your master?

There are many INTEL agents out there spreading lies and causing people to get hurt in the process and there are also many, many people extremely angry about many, many things and some of them are vigilantes who have no problem carrying guns and using them. They have been reading our work, and the work of others who are putting out information that is waking people up to the truth of how people are being manipulated across the board. Many of them have been watching the scene for years and we have been asked to join them, which we will not do because we are not into violence. They have been harmed in various ways and those who are out there in front, leading the way in the psyop freedom/truth movement, as well as though associated with them, will be sitting ducks when the pressure cooker blows. For example, someone like Ivana could be a target if she is associated with you and associated with the INTEL networks that have caused so much harm to so many. Even Stephanie is a sitting duck, and all the others who support you. This is true healing that we are offering you here. Pull out, save your lives and stop the harm, stop the lying, stop the blatant manipulation. .

Our commitment is to wake people up to the real tactics and more and more people are waking up to how they have been used and abused. We don't think you guys realise the enormity of the backlash swelling against all INTEL.

This is Fiona and Arthur both writing in all these posts.

17 May at 14:07

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Roy Turpin

People see life through their own reality tunnel. What is full disclosure for one may actually be used to enclose others. Who takes credit for something i am always on the lookout for. I see the profit motive behind much of this so if there is any blind spot it would be spotting hoo is searching for something to profit from. Dont matter to me if its fame, fortune or simply wanting to be recognized for what one has offered rather than give it all away. The truth sets us free when we claim ourselves. This is not something i can determine for anyone but me. I can see how the NAME is used for a system of slavery and if i am in truth i will do everything in my way to dismantle false spiritual contracts in commerce. This reveals the blind spots in me and in each one of us. We can hide out and have a degree of support from a system of lies or we can stand in our truth and call out the bullshit.

17 May at 14:57

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Roy Turpin

"We get more compassionate as we evolve. More humble. More subtle. More aware of how little we know. We don’t get superior. We don’t form cults of personality. We don’t think we have it all worked out. If we imagine ourselves ‘all that’, then we have actually devolved. I trust the ones who know a little something but don’t know a whole lot, more than the ones who ‘know it all’. I trust the ones who realeyes how far they have yet to travel. We have so much more to learn. All of us. Let's walk together, side by side." ~ Jeff Brown

17 May at 16:35

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Orion Nebula

Oh boy .... I think you got it completely wrong this time Arthur - you are way off base on this one .

17 May at 18:34

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Dominic Toomey

gaia is a label,label is a word is a spell

the message of having full responsibility doesn't require a label or an icon.

at the end it says "our" reality will reign or words to that affect https://translate.google.com/#la/en/ruo

17 May at 20:22

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Anja Vis

I am all for cooperation and joyning. not all will do exact the same work anyway not all can express themselves, or even close to how others can express themselves. We should see the ways to join forces not to divide. of course all points of view of the matter should be disclosed on what kate things and what arthur thinks and from there cooperation is possible. When the intuition of som sort is born and one has some kind of questions, they should be adressed of both parties and answered. some things may come across one or the other way. all should be adressed and get answers first before an opinion is being made. no conquer or divide should be played o this stage and point of time.

17 May at 23:02

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Arthur Cristian

Sigh....does anyone actually try to really sense where we are coming from?

We have a right to disassociate with someone if we see that the work we share is being portrayed in the wrong light and in a way that will not create peace, joy, etc, for all, but will create chaos and harm, the very things that we are working so hard to get away from.

We set our work free for others to benefit from in whatever way they feel BUT we are also protective of the work we do, just as parents are protective of their children. Is there something wrong with this? Is a parent accused of having a big ego when he/she protects his/her child?

Let's forget all the e-motional reactions here - please keep calm and read what we actually say without letting the filters in your head add a whole lot of meaning that isn't there. We stand for the truth and we protect the truth, even when this makes us unpopular, which we often are. Why is it a taboo to protect the truth? Is it because we are not being "nice"?

To tell people to drop the "name" without showing the remedy that allows us to do this peacefully without inviting the FORCE of "The System" into our lives is irresponsible and dangerous. People with an audience have a huge responsibility to the people who listen to them. They need to be prepared to check out everything they are saying thoroughly and leave no stone unturned when it comes to ensuring that what they are saying is a) true and b) not going to cause any harm.

We regularly examine what we are thinking and feeling with a fine tooth comb to ensure that we are being as truthful as possible in the best way we can with what we know up to this point. Obviously, we still have mountains to learn and in a year we will have learned even more and honed our work accordingly.

In the same way, if someone points out something that they think is wrong with our work, we will think about what they say and take it into consideration. This is not true for many people out there with audiences - we point out things to them where we do not see/sense truth, and they ignore it. How sincere are they in seeking truth then? If we are not prepared to bare who we are and everything we think and feel and subject those thoughts and feelings to scrutiny, we will never separate the truth from the lies.

The way Kate is promoting the "name" stuff could cause great harm to a lot of people. There is no REMEDY there. This is no different from David Icke and all the other "we will lead every revolution against us" shepherd who tell you everything that is wrong with the system (except the brainwashing tactics used - we tell you those) but do not offer a practical, day by day, step by step remedy.

We have been on the front line of this since we started Love For Life March 2005 and website December 2006. Our research into the big-picture goes back to 1971/1972 onwards.

We have dealt with many, many, many people, many families with young children, who are on the verge of losing everything or have already lost everything because they followed the add-vice of freedom truther sovereigns who told them all sorts of tactics that they said would work, only to find that, whoops, the FORCE of "The System" takes no notice of paperwork, of liens, of UCC filings, of "read off a script" dialogue.

And when everything is collapsing around them, are the freedom truther sovereigns there holding their hands and picking up the pieces? NOOOOOO. They are nowhere to be seen and they are certainly NOT taking FULL-responsibility for the fact that all the promises they made about their amazing methods have come to nothing. And this is not just one or two phone calls we have had, We are talking about HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of people with their lives in tatters.

If you can comprehend this, perhaps you can comprehend why we are so quick off the mark to point out where the work we share is being used in a way that could potentially cause a lot of harm, as well as where we see the work of others having the potential to do harm. We do not want our work, or us, to be associated with that harm because it discredits all the hard work we have put in over the years AND takes people away from looking at the remedy, the practical, day by day, step by step remedy we offer.

Kate is right when he says that we have to let go of the "name" but we cannot just do so without some preparation and, most importantly, without fully comprehending how the "name" works and how the brainwashing of "The System" keeps us addicted to using the "name" and attached to the "name".

Kate tells us to just give up the "name" and stand strong and we will become invincible. HHHMMMMM. Does he warn people that giving up the "name" also means giving up ALL the benefits and services of "The System" because it is our claiming of the "name" that gives us access to those benefits and services. Yep, from now on, no leases, no mortgages, no driver's licences, no healthcare, no banking, no insurance, no government pensions/handouts, no credit rating, no passport, no car registration, and, when they bring in a cashless society, no access to their shops = no food, water, shelter, etc, unless you have created a food forest or are happy to live off what you can forage. Does Kate make this clear to everyone? NO

We have people come to see us and they want to do what Arthur has done and give up all contracts with the "name" but we point out that the only reason he has been able to do so at this point is because he has people around him who are committed to supporting him. This is not something lightly done without a strong community around you.

When we have Kindoms off the ground, we will have places for people to come seeking refuge from "The System" where there will be food, shelter, water, nurturing and all for free. Then people can walk away from the "name" without having to go bush or sponge off those who maybe cannot afford it, do not comprehend it and do not have the support of others around them.

To those of you who have written to us accusing us of needing to put the ego to rest, or of not being "free" with our work, or of bickering, being divisive, of not being compassionate or humble, of not being sensitive about people awakening in different ways at different paces, and of whatever other sins we have committed by speaking honestly about the situation, did you actually consider any of the above points before rushing in to accuse us of all these things? Did you stop to think of the ramifications of Kate's video as described above? Or did you just write from your e-motional reaction to someone stirring the pot rather than sitting back being "nice"?

If we do not fully comprehend what has been done to us AND how the brainwashing tactics that keep us in "The System" work and have us fall for the "we will lead every revolution against us" shepherds, we will never escape "The System", be it this version or the next.

We take the FULL-responsibility we have seriously and we will continue to point out harm being done and falseHOODS being spread and will continue to point out harm being done and falseHOODS being spread even if EVERYONE hates us for it. At least we will have walked-the-talk!

Fiona & Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

18 May at 01:45

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Arthur Cristian

From this thread: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203692712866417

A cow looking over the fence at a green pasture is still a slave to MAN, nothing has changed whether the cow remains in an existing enclosure or is led to another "greener pasture".

The point of true freedom is not to lead anyone or anything anywhere at any "time".

Everything about Christianity is this, despite some "good moral truths" and well-meaning people who truly want to help others and live good lives.

If only they would wake up to the brainwashing they have been subjected to!

Then they could lead even more powerful lives of TRUE-freedom.

What is the true freedom?

The "wild" animal that befriends you of its free-will or the animal that is captured and trained/forced to do MANS bidding?

Which freedom do you want to live for?

It's clear where we are heading - what the big picture is.

Christians are slaves to "The System" behind the Bible but they talk about freedom. The freedom they are talking about is "freedom" within "The System" which is no different from the cow going from one field to the next. This freedom is fraud because it is not real freedom. We commit fraud when we claim that we have our animals best interests at heart, all the while they are enslaved to us.

"The System" is just the image power of another MAN forcing others to live under their version of freedom in that image. Those images being the Kingdom of God, Freedom, etc. These are thoughts and ideas of another MAN. They are not unique and original to you. This is no different to the animals that we provide with stables and paddocks; they are not free. They are living under the image power that we place over them.

What is more invigorating; the wild horse who willingly allows you to get on its back and together as a shared experience go for a journey, with both of you having a unique, direct, shared experience, or the ride on a horse you have taken out of the stable and put a saddle on and then put the horse back in the stable after the ride?

What about children, brainwashed Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc.....?

Do you think educating them with The Bible is providing them with true freedom or is it the true loss of true freedom because they are subjected to another MANS FORCE of image power enforcing them under his/her/their image-power, their version of freedom?

Are you truly free in the supermarket as you shop or are you just provided with choices under the guise of "freedom"?

Why does MAN doubt that Living Creator provided everything MAN needs?

Why does MAN have to kidnap children to brainwash them under their IMAGE POWER?

Why does MAN doubt that Living-Creator has provided everything MANS child needs and everything every creature, plant, etc, needs?

Why do we have to act as impostors and trap unique original life-forms under our "storytelling"?

And we argue for this enslavement and we fight for it too.

Here is an example of this deception at play: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203677889935853

18 May at 02:03

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Anja Vis

i see your point clearly Arthur. it is the only way.

18 May at 03:11

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Rhokeheart Burkett

Truth needs no one to guard it.

18 May at 07:57

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Arthur Cristian

Agreed, this is what we say repeatedly in our work BUT we are protecting naive, duped, gullible men, women and children oblivious to the Psyop Tactics being used to destroy remedy from being applied which will do immense harm to them down-the-line. This is clearly explained in our posts in this thread.

18 May at 12:48

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Shaun Hamer

And if Kate is genuine,,,,,,,,, what of all you have said here?
From where I am sitting, we need to cone together.do listen to Kates shows
I think you have misread kate, perhaps because of shows in the past which were vitriolic and as Kate has said, terribly at effect to the fear porn agenda.
This has changed, the show is open to all, and I have contact with many who listen in,
It is only a concept of knowing who you are that is the focus of the show, not any agenda or system, I think youd be pleasantly surprised if you tuned in Arthur.

And I guess the question has to be asked
"Could humanity suffer more than It does under the boot of the crown."

And is it worse to know, and then willfully assist the crown by allowing the fraud to continue. Than it is to facilitate it unwittingly in our ignorance.

The main focus at the moment is not on any submitting of paperwork, or even to act on any of the information. it is to get the info on the birth bond fraud into the consciousness as widely as possible. Particularly those within the ranks of the system, that they may have the choice to cease doing harm.
And it seems they are, one by one.

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Arthur Cristian

The posts/comments we put up is directed at the blatant Psyop tactics being used, hence our dissociation - our comments/posts clearly explain where we are coming from. Suggest you read them again. If Kate is innocent then he has nothing to be concerned about - what we shared needed to be clearly stated. We refuse our lives, our work, to be associated with no remedy, which comes hand in hand with all our work.

As far as we are concerned we've sensed Kate to be Intel for almost three years now. Nothing has occurred since to change our views on Kate. We had many dealings with him back then. We don't say these things lightly, we don't just rush in and make comments like this unless we have contemplated, contemplated, contemplated, scrutinised, scrutinised, scrutinised, and listened over and and over again to our senses, gut instincts, perceptions, insights, (ancestors all around us), etc. They have never failed us thus far.

It's better to put all our life-energy into the remedy that is Kindom than even to be spending time waking people up to the birth bond fraud because, even if everyone wakes up to it, they still don't have a living remedy in everyday practical sense and thus are ripe for the latest INTEL shepherd with the right buzz words and mantras to sweep them up. Remedy is VITAL, which is why we push it so hard.

We have to start living the remedy all the while waking up to the depth of deception that has been practiced against us. If we don't create the light of kindom, there is nowhere to fall back on when we wake up to the fact that "The System" is rotten to the core, that we are stuck in the darkness of no remedy, no light. Talking about the birth bond fraud is not getting rid of it. Creating Kindoms so that we no longer need "The System" in everyday practical sense and the birth bond fraud doesn't matter any more because we have already cast off our system chains and "The System" fades away as we work on expanding the light of Kindom all around.

18 May at 14:50

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Vicki Victoria

It's all in the sound. It's a psychops guys. The info is OK. But it's an over-load and can't reach the target audience....the people. Only the choir. My son came running when he heard the drums...when he saw the writings he lost interest immediately in the content. Send this video without music and see how it goes.....it will be a classic fail army. Me thinks the content is true but the packaging is shit.....why is that? Me thinks if there is any difficulty in the transfer of information...it's not real or they are trying to create a meme about something.. We are at a stage now when we only need remedy...the rest is superfluous. Talk really is cheap. I say grow Kale and buy a parka because it's going to be a bumpy ride folks.....

18 May at 22:18

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Arthur Cristian

Hail Vicki.......

Another example of a Psyops Program in operation........

Since 2007/2008 we've been saying Alan Watt's is Intel too. Notice how all the talk is about everything wrong in great detail, etc, exposing all the psyops programs within a Psyops Program (Russian Dolls) but never addresses the main Psyops Program (the real culprit) and typically NO MENTION OF REMEDY.

You won't find any remedy coming from Alan Watt's that gets everyone out of "The System" in this life forevermore..... NOTHING ------- !!!!!

"Let me tell you a story son"........blah blah blah blah blah blah blah..........hours later and the storytelling is over and the duped now feeling good being "realised" as an awakened "truther", are going straight back into the daily grind of a mundane robotic life in "The System", a programmed life/lie they never left --------------- nothing has changed anywhere for anyone....!!!!

And when sufficient people are awakened and arise with realisations of "freedom", "freedom", "freedom", "freedom", "peace", "peace", "peace"............ yeahhhhhhh yeahhhhhhh yeeeaaaHHHHHHHH - the changes brought about are only within the main Russian Doll, never outside of it!!!!

Such are the ways of Intel Operatives Peddling Psyops Programs.....!!!!!

Welcome to the New World Order, the Russian Doll that never left the scene.

These type of very clever Psyops Programs are implemented by Intel Operatives who are trained to bounce off the work created by generations of their predecessors (Russian Doll) who created all the shit in the first instance that is now being clearly reflected by the "inside knowledge" of an Alan Watt's (another Russian Doll within layers of Russian Dolls) who was a "learned initiate" going through the many years to become "illuminated" (the next generation of Psyops Programmers implementing the next stage of their founders grand design) mixing amongst their "brethren".

Watch out for slick wolves (con artists) dressed in "good guys" lambs clothing.

And what do you think is the main Russian Doll that has everyone duped and trapped? Please post your answers here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VllwRgSECcw#t=116

And the program is brought to you by Alex Jones Prison Planet, another Intel Operative working for the next fashion statement of his brotherHOODS Russian Doll.

Alan Watt - A Globalist Agenda For a Dumbed Down Domesticated Society - A Prison Planet special

21 May at 01:59

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Arthur Cristian

Vicki........... Aaahhhhhh, the ways to trap a wolf dressed as a lamb.

21 May at 02:04

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THE TRUTHFUL ARE THE HEAVENLY AND I AM KINGLY NOBILITY
HE HE HE
Huge baby

21 May at 05:11

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Steve Wilson

awesome

21 May at 08:02

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Wade Libbis

Top Rabbi Exposes Jewish Racism
http://www.davidduke.com

21 May at 21:42

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

Kate of Gia is a guy dresses as a girl, new age lost guy!! Promoting lucis trust doctrines without even knowing it, he blocked me for questioning some of his bullshit!!

24 May at 21:03

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Shaun Hamer

You missed the perspective.
This division is so badly thought out.
Being at effect to the definitions of language is still being 'in' the matrix.
Every lie, every falsehood is a curse.
It's best to 'know' what we are saying,
Rather than to project with logic, based in alphabet language, attacks, which are unfounded.

Fear is the mind killer. Know thyself.

24 May at 21:31

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

Santos bonacci and other

24 May at 22:05

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Jaba WS

By pointing 1 finger.... 3 fingers always point on ourself! No Harm No Lost! Exposing ideas is not the same than pointing finger on SOMEONE! Everyone have his own choice!

24 May at 22:09

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

Just as giving direction but being lost your self!

24 May at 22:11

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g7QQ3QEHU0k

Lucis Trust One World Religion 2009 Part 1/2

The Lucis Trust is the corner stone for the One World Religion.

24 May at 22:21

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

EXPOSED! Lucis Trust President Speaks ~ Satan, Lucifer, & the UN

24 May at 22:21

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Jaba WS

Ali ... you know you refers allot to videos and other links all the time! I think if we want to get ride of the system we have to stop the things that are coming from the system ... all this intellectual stuff is only half truth! And half truth is entier LIE! Let's start to make our own creation and explain things as simple as we can ... LIFE IS SIMPLE!

24 May at 22:23

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Arthur Cristian

Shaun, scrutiny has nothing to do with what you are claiming is going on here, NOTHING.

Why are you reacting so much?

Again, refer to the questions raised by us with Kate, Max, Mark Darwin, Stephen, etc........ We ask the tough questions.

Can any of them answer the questions honestly without character assassinations???

NONE have thus far....

They can't because it will expose the lies they promote out in the open for all to see, which forces them to desist from what they are promoting/doing/saying. Meaning, they lose all their e-go power over their victims.

They are most welcome to scrutinise the work we do and the insights we share but they avoid this with COMPLETE SILENCE.

What is this telling you, especially when all they have got to offer is NOTHING, hence the character assassination attacks.

THEY CAN'T BACK THEIR CLAIMS BUT WE CAN.

Go where truth takes you. This is what we always do. To us, this is the real everyday-practical-sense-message behind "you shall know them by their fruits".

24 May at 22:33

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

So by somebody claiming to own it, I becomes theirs,

24 May at 22:29

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Jaba WS

If you think you OWN then you get OWNed! Is the same with possession Is just not to use and spread THEIR creation! Is to put our thought into MOTION!

24 May at 22:34

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

Exactly

24 May at 22:37

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Arthur Cristian

Jaba, scrutiny has nothing to do with "own" - You are aware of this? Asking the tough questions is critical to routing out all the lies and liars. Using scrutiny means we are free from attachment to any belief system because everything we think, feel and do is always under the threat of scrutiny exposing lies and liars, which is what we have to do if we really dream to move forward with truth as our power to create a living paradise all-around-us.

24 May at 22:38

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Jaba WS

well yes i get this but i don't get why you say this ... please correct me, but where did i say scrutiny have something to do with owning?

24 May at 22:42

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

Life is just a dream and true life will truly wake up after death

24 May at 22:46

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Jaba WS

I think it is quit simple to explain that everything that is part of the WORLD need a System, Pro-Gramming, Codes (words) and do not exist ...

And living on Earth is the real deal back to life and reality!

24 May at 22:49

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Shaun Hamer

Arthur I am not reacting, I wish to understand this situation,
Besides, you posted he name at the top of the thread, if I said nothing, would people assume I had run. Away with my tail between my legs,

I have gained much insight from your work, and Kate's, but not the same detail,

It is apparent to me when people say Kate is promoting one world religion, they have either not listened to the show for ages, or their intent is to find fault.

Nowhere can I find a reference to one world religion in kate's work.
So I suggest that that suggestion is a lie.

From my neutral perspective.
I have no attachment to the outcome of anyone being, or not being Intel.

As i say I wish to understand nit to take sides.
That is polarised and dualistic, which is as good as apathy and blindness to the architects of the system.

24 May at 22:49

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Arthur Cristian

Nowhere, just asking you to be sure you are clear on both "own" and scrutiny.

24 May at 22:49

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Arthur Cristian T

he exposure of the Psyops Programs clearly exposes the true agenda......

words like Universal, being a classic

Uni- ONE
Verse - story/system repeated over and over and over again
All - everyone under its image power worshiping the uni-verse.

There are others, like "planet", "aliens" out there (refer to the original post for more on this.

The word Planet is part of a MASSIVE PSYOP PROGRAM - conning victims into accepting something out there, outside of MAN, something of greater power than MAN.

This is clearly demonstrating a ONE WORLD RELIGION under another "oneness" guise.

See if you can rout out all the other key-trigger words of a Psyop Program being performed by Kate.

24 May at 22:59

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Shaun Hamer

Depending on which 'definitions' we accept
these words could be assumed and presumed to mean many things.

I get what you are saying, but this isn't the message I hear on outside the box,

Busting the alphabet languages removing assumption and presumption, so as not to be defined by another, and introducing co-creative intent, is more the message I hear.

24 May at 23:08

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Shaun Hamer

Being causal over our intentions rather than at effect to the projections and definitions of system and alphabet languages.

24 May at 23:10

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

Kate say things we are gods lol

24 May at 23:14

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Arthur Cristian

That's what many Christians thought about being a Christian until they woke up and fled it - Like we say the greatest lie and liar is the one closest to the truth, they cause the greatest damage of all. The very instrument we helped to expose back in 2005 that has completely destroyed the law in all its forms you now protect because you are still wrestling with blind spots. LOLLLLL not at you the MAN Shaun, just at the hypocrisy of witnessing the symptoms of a believer trying to protect his "master idol". Please take this with good cheer, we seek no harm upon you whatsoever but this is how you are presently coming across. Just remember, if you have no remedy to get you out of "the system" NOW, you will be forced to accept the remedy they will offer you down-the-line because you and others had been caught with your pants down. Refer to the Alan Watt post. All our work is on setting into motion 2005-2006-2007 "The Steps Of Kindom" remedy - no one has yet found fault in it or debunked it, see if you can. Why is Kate & co completely ignoring this very simple practical doable do no harm remedy?

24 May at 23:21

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Kenneth Jeffrey Slem

ONLY THE TRUE ARE THE FREE AND HAVE ETERNAL WORTH.

24 May at 23:27

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Arthur Cristian

Shaun, to us, you are half way there, learning the secrets of "name" and alphabets, etc is great but is not enough because until you have overcome all the demons/pull of e-motions that presently plague you, you will always remain trapped in "The System" with everyone else who is trapped with no way of getting out of it.

The Love For Life remedy work is far far far far far far far far far far far more comprehensive to heal all of MANS woes in present-sense than the bastardised diluted version of our work being promoted by Kate Of Gaia. This is fact. The pull of e-motion, reaction to trauma, image power, "spells, "spelling", all-seeing "i", etc, etc, is what you will have to confront if you are ever to be fully healed and clear to move forward with a do no harm remedy in present-sense. Until we completely overcome self-centeredness we are stuffed and trapped in hell.

24 May at 23:31

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Shaun Hamer

no offence taken.

24 May at 23:34

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Arthur Cristian

We are clear that you are a very good hearted MAN and is questioning everything including us. This is very healthy to see/sense. Good on you, most do not have the confidence or the guts to do this.

24 May at 23:35

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

Dajjal [ The Anti Christ } by Ahmad Thomson
In the name of Allah The Merciful the Compassionate. And when the wizards came, Moses said to them: Cast your cast. And when they cast, Moses said: That which you have brought is magic. by: AJay Algii https://m.facebook.com/notes/ajay-algii/dajjal-the-anti-christ-by-ahmad-...

24 May at 23:40

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

Arthur Cristian so you advocate that heaven and hell are a place on earth??

24 May at 23:47

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Jaba WS

25 May at 00:48

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Arthur Cristian

Yes, through the water of our breath every thing is MAN-made including hell. We are fully-responsible for everything we experience. We are all at the effect of each others dreaming, intentions, thoughts, ideas, etc, set into motion in the water of our breath.

25 May at 01:18

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Deanna Klastow

Sweet Grass baskets from South Carolina

25 May at 02:29

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Deanna Klastow

25 May at 02:29

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Arthur Cristian

Deanna, scrutiny has nothing to do with making a MAN small. We go where truth takes us. Please show us where we are lying. All we have done here is point out the FACTS. Again, you are peddling heaps of "buzz words" that are NOT proof of fact, are NOT coming from our intentions, our actions for saying and doing what we have clearly stated in our Disassociation From The Work of Kate of Gaia. Like we said in the other post:

"Deanna, based on what you have written, you are presently showing up the performance/act of a deeply brainwashed, deeply traumatised, new age space cadet. There is hardly any, if any, original unique thoughts/dreams coming from who you really are in this post.

To us, what you have posted is a load of bullshit "buzz words", that is all you've got. Yes we get your sentiments, we've all been hammered severely by lies/trauma/etc for many many "years", and our battered hearts pour out to you and your family, etc, but having you presently going down the yellow brick road distributing buzz words" is not going to help you face reality, whatsoever, because they are not proof of fact that the beautiful good hearted woman that you really are has escaped the clutches of a powerful Psyop Program presently doing your head in.

We love you, the real-living woMAN, our sister/co-creator of life, and is why we call an ace an ace and refuse to butter you up with "nice looking good" words - we don't need your approval, appreciation, etc.

You can throw us in your head-space garbage in if you want but we will always point out bullshit when we see/sense it. This is what all real friends should be doing for each other."

Deanna, to us this is all make-believe "No one has ever made himself great by showing how small someone else is".

25 May at 04:34

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

What will happen the the senses and logic are deceived by the grand deceiver and his servents??

25 May at 04:37

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Jaba WS

how do you want to deceive senses without words?

25 May at 04:37

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

We are not creators!! We are subjects of the creator

25 May at 04:40

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Jaba WS

So your doing is not creation? Please answer how do you want to deceive senses without words?

25 May at 04:40

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

I am unable to create anything without the will of the creator! With the intalect granted to me by him,
Furthermore the creator will test mankind, and grant a man the power to deceive the senses

25 May at 04:47

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Jaba WS

Ok i see ... this is not the case for me ... i just can create anything i want anytime. But can you please tell me how you want to deceive the senses without any word?

25 May at 04:49

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

I am not wanting to deceive any one!!! But the creator will send the antichrist dajjal saytan

25 May at 04:51

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Jaba WS

And how they will deceive the senses?

25 May at 04:52

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Jaba WS

Ali?

25 May at 05:16

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

He will cut a man in half and bring him back to life

25 May at 05:22

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

Just I example

25 May at 05:23

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Jaba WS

This is how they will deceive our senses?

25 May at 05:23

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Blu Skys Intexas

in my grans bible I read et thye age of 6/7 I read/red that thye creator said/sed we were al his children so if so than we would al haf thye dna from god an they say the ole seein eye is of thye devil but we al are born with one so does this mean we r god an devil if so I haf to choice god an creation coz I can manifest rain an haf manifested other things it is realy cool

25 May at 06:37

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Jaba WS

is for you the bible a proof for god/creator?

25 May at 06:39

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

We are the supreme creation, but yet from the seed of Adam, with the knowledge of good and evil within us, the massiah on the other hand was created just as Adam with the word " be" and theeeefore free from sin, yet another will come an proclaim tobe the anointed 1, massiah, king, director of nwo etc

25 May at 06:42

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Jaba WS

but how do you know of adam existence?

25 May at 06:44

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

Well we certainly did not evolve from monkeys and apes, or it would just be a jungle or animal farm!!

25 May at 06:44

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Jaba WS

ok so you take the book as granted because we could not come from monkey .. therefor the writings are the truth?

25 May at 06:45

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

Faith

25 May at 06:45

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Jaba WS

Is faith truth?

25 May at 06:45

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

And over 124,000 messengers sent for different tribes and nations,

25 May at 06:45

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

But yet still saytan misguide them all!!

25 May at 06:46

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Jaba WS

This does not answer the question if fait is truth or a believe!

25 May at 06:46

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

The truth will be granted after we wake up from this dream!!!

25 May at 06:47

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Jaba WS

Ok so if im one of this 124,000 messenger and i tell you that is wrong what you think do you have fait in what i say?

25 May at 06:47

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Jaba WS

how do you know if one is a prophet or not?

25 May at 06:48

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Anja Vis

why do you need profets? be clear-minded yourself and voila, you are to be a profet

25 May at 07:00

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Deanna Klastow

@ Arthur ~ I am unique and individual and I do appreciate all of the information given freely by you and your family but I do find it very disheartening that people who are working to break the system, no matter how they do it, are throwing jabs at each other and not helping each other. I know we are all different and all at different stages of our development and I appreciate all beings who are working for freedom whether I agree with them or not. I believe one little ripple will cause the wave. No I am not asleep. I am not under delusion and while I appreciate your comment I do not agree with it. Your comments to Kate Rene were started by the fact that you felt she was using your material and you wanted a pat on the back for it and when you didn't get it you acted like a child throwing a temper tantrum which to me represents the issues we are currently experiencing at the present time. Me Me Me. Please do not get offended but listen and realize how you are coming across to other people. Being full of EGO does nothing to help us in our walk to break the system and free the earth and all its inhabitants. I do not sit around thinking because I believe it will come true nor do I look for pats on the back for information I am freely sharing. You have been defending your point for quite a while now and in the process threw some horrid jabs at the identity of Kate. Her sexual identity does not harm you in anyway and is not intended to. It is not for you or I to judge that it is her decision and hers alone. This is what I see true freedom as, allowing everyone the right to choose who they are without interference as long as that choice doesn't impose upon someone elses. I Love You for All You Have Given and I Am Grateful~ Namaste~

25 May at 07:15

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Leticia Delgadillo

ALL the Books Written by "MAN" are "MAN" made tales conjured within the Brain of "MAN" to create a Mythos, a Dream that has Absolutely "NOTHING" to do with reality.....The reality of Earth. A System, Mythology of a One sided tale called HIS-story, again Written and In-spired. Breathed into by "MEN"......"Patri-Ruled" Patriarchy ! We do Not need to be RULED by an Imagined ,Made UP, Male created god made in the Image of Mans INSANITY that does not exist in the First Place! WE do not need "MANS" codes, rules, laws!!! The EARTH is Truth and Reality......

25 May at 07:30

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Leticia Delgadillo

Profits-Prophets are conjured up bullshit from MAN! These MALE MIND Structures are being Dismantled and Exposed by Persons like Jaba!

25 May at 07:32

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Jeanice Barcelo

Deanna Klastow - You know, I am truly puzzled how, after reading what Arthur Cristian has written, you would say he is full of ego. This just boggles my mind as he has not asked Kate not to use his words -- but only to make sure that there is a distinction made between what Arthur is promoting and what Kate is promoting -- and also some freaking credit given where credit is due. This is a standard professional thing to do, and yet here you are, spewing out nonsense, talking about how Arthur is coming across to other people. Well my dear, you are not coming across as too swift yourself. And this has zero to do with Arthur asking for pats on the back and everything to do with INTEGRITY!!!! Very rarely have I listened to a person with a bigger ego than Kate Rene. This is not to say that he/she is not brilliant or helping people to wake up. But it is to say that Kate is so unbelievably volatile when someone even slightly questions his thoughts or words -- and this volatility is a sure sign of a huge ego. Kate has burned so many bridges with people who once supported him -- people who were once extremely close to him and those not so close, like myself. These fires were lit solely as a result of Kate's ego. And it boggles my mind that Kate thinks it is absolutely fine to use the EXACT words of Arthur and the Love for Life work without acknowledging their author or their origin. I guess Kate needs to pump up his own sense of importance by stealing other people's words and ideas and promoting them as his own. Otherwise, why would he be so deceiving and thieving? Sorry, but I have no tolerance for people who plagiarize other people's work. And I am completely baffled by your comment. It makes no sense.

25 May at 07:36

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Leticia Delgadillo

The Dream you speak of that YOU need to wake Up from is this In=organic WEB of Lies Spinned By MAD men from Looooooog ago that has Nothing to do with the Earth and HER creations! That's What you need to Wake Up from! Written Documents that are as good as Toilet Paper....Who authored them....? MEN, EVIL MEN!!!! Only EVIL has come from THEM!!!!!

25 May at 07:36

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Rhokeheart Burkett

Wow, way to talk down to an individual! So when someone States a point you try to discredit it by saying it is composed of "buzz words. " and then formulate your own sequence of "buzz words" and claim your "buzz words" discredit theirs, it is quite a obvious attempt to start a conflict. Divide and conquer rite Arthur?

25 May at 07:59

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Leticia Delgadillo

My comments are directed to Ali....

25 May at 07:37

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Deanna Klastow

@ Jeanice since this is such a hot topic PLEASE outline what work Kate Rene has taken from Arthur PLEASE Lets have clarification.

25 May at 07:39

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Rhokeheart Burkett

I say this is coming from ego because you are seeking recognition and credit where you did nothing and basing it on assumptions.

25 May at 07:44

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Deanna Klastow

Hello

25 May at 07:51

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Deanna Klastow

Its funny everyone has an opinion but no one has clear evidence of anything being taken from Arthur and after all the swords/words have been thrown around still no evidence is presented~

25 May at 08:15

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Jeanice Barcelo


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=820917647937569&set=a.1713649462...

After watching all those horror films!
you still answer the call of the Necromancer.
by: Shaun Hamer

25 May at 08:17

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Jeanice Barcelo

Deanna Klastow - please see my last post

25 May at 08:17

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Deanna Klastow

I Like the Post Jeanice but I still ask what material did Kate take of Arthurs?

25 May at 08:40

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Deanna Klastow

This information has been going around and Arthur was not the first to discover hence not his material~ I guess you must label and determine boundaries hence feeding the system your so opposed to ~ Very Sad to See So Much Stones Being Thrown ~

25 May at 08:41

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Deanna Klastow

If you want to give credit where credit is due the credit goes to the system who created the game ~ If I figure out how to win the chess game does it mean I created it?

25 May at 08:45

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

Lol the truth is within you, if u can have total recall??

25 May at 09:10

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

Lol

Lucuferian trust

Kate is a cunt and a dick at the same time lol

Even loosing the systems name!!! System will try to enslave,

Forgive it as it not know what it do

But alt least tell it fuck you!!!!

25 May at 09:31

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Deanna Klastow

Falun Gong is a qigong discipline combining slow-moving exercises and meditation with a moral philosophy centered on the tenets of truth (or truthfulness), compassion and tolerance. It was founded by Li Hongzhi, who introduced it to the public in May 1992 in Changchun, Jilin.[4] Following a period of meteoric growth in the 1990s, the Communist Party launched a campaign to "eradicate" Falun Gong on 20 July 1999.

25 May at 09:54

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Deanna Klastow

Here goes some food for thought~ Why is the Chinese Government afraid of Falun Gong?

Falun Gong (also known as Falun Dafa) is a spiritual discipline from China. It was founded by Li Hongzhi in 1992.[1] People who follow Falun Gong do five exercises and read books written by Li Hongzhi. They believe in "Truthfulness, Compassion and Forbearance", and they also believe that the Falun Gong exercises can make them healthy, and better people. There were almost 70 million Falun Gong practitioners in China, according to the Chinese government.

In 1999, after a big Falun Gong gathering in front of a Chinese government building, the Communist Party of China said: people cannot practice Falun Gong, it is "illegal".[2] The police started arresting Falun Gong followers, and according to human rights organizations, over 3000 people have been jailed and tortured to death.[3] The Chinese government claimed that Falun Gong spread superstitions, while other suggest that Falun Gong's popularity challenges the rule of the Chinese Communist Party.[4] Many people and organizations outside of China has called for the Chinese government to stop jailing and killing Falun Gong people.[5][6][7]

25 May at 09:57

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Deanna Klastow

Can We Get It Together

25 May at 09:58

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Deanna Klastow

What is Falun Gong? | China Uncensored
What is Falun Gong, or Falun Dafa as it's also known?
And why is Falun Gong being persecuted in China? On this episode of China Uncensored, I'll answer these...

25 May at 10:02

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Deanna Klastow

New David Icke Interview, Non Human Entities Enslave Us, But Creativity Can Free Us!
Vinny Eastwood Show - Mid/Late May 2014

25 May at 10:27

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Deanna Klastow

Oh the Horrors of the Multitude actually Uniting and Respecting the Differences

25 May at 10:28

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Jeanice Barcelo

Deanna Klastow - do you see the picture with all those words on it? Those are Arthur Cristian's words -- and yet those words are not attributed to Arthur. What the hell does Falun Gong have to do with any of this and why are you wasting space on this thread, totally taking it off-topic? What is your real agenda?

25 May at 10:28

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Deanna Klastow

Actually give me a date on Arthur's words and I will find you the same words attributed to someone else at an earlier time. We are in the condition we are in because someone wants credit~ You know many tribal people take credit for nothing and when someone wants or needs they don't sit there and cry you cant have it its mine they give it freely~ I have no agenda I just want the wave of consciousness towards total freedom to continue and not be disrupted by divide and conquer ideals.

25 May at 10:30

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Deanna Klastow

Namaste

25 May at 10:33

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Arthur Cristian

Deanna, where have we made comments about Kate's sexual identity?

Presumably you mean the comment "coupled with the image Kate presents".

Now this is your assumption that we are talking about his sexual identity whereas we are addressing the foul mouthed aggressive manner in which Kate presents himself. Now he can behave however he chooses, but this, together with the fact that he makes no attempt to give full disclosure about his sources, has nothing to do with a do no harm remedy full of the virtues of love.

Since Dec 2006, in the 11,000 + individual videos, documents, articles, pdf's, podcasts, etc, found amongst the 8500+ posts in the Love For Life website, we always say where the information comes from, unless we cannot find out.

Most other people do this.

WHY IS THIS SO IMPORTANT?

To avoid slander, misappropriation, defamation, etc, and fraud which is all about the theft of someones character to impersonate that character so they can add their "own" slant to the body of this stolen work and in doing so corrupt the character of another which occurs when one makes out claims and promotes intentions that never came from the original writer whose work was hijacked. This is what Kate is doing.

Why should Kate and those of you protecting him mind so much because we ask to be acknowledged, just as we acknowledge other people. As Jeanice said, why doesn't he use our work but make it clear what is our work and his work and the difference between to two?

This is ALL WE ASK.

Since we started Love For Life March 2005 we have dealt with many, many hundreds of strong good hearted men and women who have stood up to "The System" of lies and liars on many fronts and ALL OF THEM refer any of their work to whoever and wherever it came from. Mainstream media generally does this too because they do not want to go to court over slander, defamation, misappropriation, etc, and profiting from other peoples work.

We do not "own" our work but we will protect it when necessary. This is such an occasion. The point is, people with good hearts refuse to do harm to others.

Any studious researcher will find ALL the evidence of all the work we've been putting up since 2005/2006 that backs everything we are saying about Kate.

Here is a video we put up in Feb 2012 which is the first video about the "name" being the mark of the beast, etc, etc..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdOag66v7uo

This research work was first started 2005/2006 and we originally talked about "word-stories" which evolved into "name" as we honed our insights and research. Here is a flier page we put up Dec 2006 and updated it a few times until 2007: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/20

Here is a link to many articles we wrote - scroll down to find posts going back to 2007 http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385

Here is another video of a 2009 interview: Part One: http://youtu.be/yg7sbVyqUcw - Part Two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2RjiJaA_rA

Another video of a podcast 2nd April 2009: Part One: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km6SDH70AFA Part Two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwsZp3vj790

Vinny Eastwood Interview Oct 2010: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phP2fPXgsJ8

Using our lives as Guinea pigs since 2008 to test the State Debt Recovery Office: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6319

All our law work going back to 2005: http://loveforlife.com.au/cat.../main/law-articles-documents

All the Freeman/Sovereignty info we were putting up since 2005: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/895

2005 onwards court case documents: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5

Sequential Order of insights shared through articles, debates and videos/podcasts: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514 scroll down to find them.

There is also a series of Podcasts with Giorgio Repeti put up early mid 2009: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8212

Interesting that Kate wrote to us a few times early mid 2012 thanking us for all the work we've been doing, sharing the common story of family home stolen, and telling us how he had been diving into this Love For Life work for around three years. These posts are still on the Facebook wall, that's unless Kate has deleted them all. We just checked, everything to do with Kate has been completely wiped out EVERYTHING. Even PM's. WOWWWWW.

25 May at 14:14

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Arthur Cristian

All the background to "spells" and "spelling", to incantations behind the evocation of each alpha letter behind English, to maths & geometry being behind each letter, that each letter is hieroglyphics, that each letter has a meaning and has codes not educated to the masses, to con-structs, to con-cepts, to beLIEf, to the breaking down of the etymology, phonetics and cryptography of sounds, of the fact that we create water every-time we breathe out and how the water of our breath is used to encode/embed every thought/intention/feeling/etc we set into motion and how this is used by Satanists/Freemasons to control victims under their "spells" by creating demons of trauma they've crafted and can control through remote viewing, remote control and remote projection by causing reactions to trauma (reactions to the demons), etc, etc, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of these insights were posted by us including the explanations of the psyop programs behind them all go back to 2005/2006. It's all in the Love For Life website, go and do your homework.

25 May at 14:17

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Arthur Cristian

We've never made the claim that we "own" this work or that we want a pat on the back, etc. - These claims are bullshit.

25 May at 14:18

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Arthur Cristian

We filed documents in the Supreme Court in 2006 that had the judges flee that were the result of a man who has been studying the codes of the English language for 40 years as a layman and found many many clues in the biographies and dictionaries written in the 1800s, most of which have now been removed out of circulation. Due to agreements with him, we cannot make these documents free for all to see and do (many visitors have come to sight them), but we have used what he taught us and developed it in our unique original ways. Where else do you find this insight stuff, except in where the initiates of the high levels of Freemasonry are? Most of the insights we share are not to be found elsewhere. Prove it.

25 May at 14:20

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Arthur Cristian

And Deanna, we do put all our work out there for free and have always said that people are free to use it, but why not acknowledge where it comes from, especially if you are just going to copy great chunks of it. We always acknowledge other people's work, even if it is just a great FB comment that we add to a post. We could easily slip it in and pretend we thought of it but we always say, "As so and so said...". Why? Because we stand for transparency and full disclosure and integrity and respect.

25 May at 14:20

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Arthur Cristian

The greatest part of this body of insights is the clearly defined distinction between SENSE (light/consciousness/direct-experience/life) and NON-SENSE (darkness/unconsciousness/3rd party intervention/death/anti-life). This was a massive breakthrough that has impacted millions of lives and again we thank the elderly MAN who came into our lives late 2005 to help us with our court case. He was the stimulus that lead to these distinctions.

25 May at 14:26

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Arthur Cristian

Again, Deanna, it is not about getting a pat on the back or having egos that need placating. If you noticed, we wrote what we wrote to stop people getting hurt by getting into something they did not comprehend fully, including recognising the trauma that sets the performance of the system drone into motion. This is all part of the big picture that Kate and you are ignoring. Is there anyone who has done what Kate says who is not still in "The System"? Anyone who has just "stood firm in their invincibility" (to paraphrase) and is now living free of "The System? No one. Read the post again. As we said we have been on the receiving end of scores and scores of people who have lost everything and had their lives turned upside down as a result of following the ad-vice of freedom truthers.

25 May at 14:27

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Arthur Cristian

Much of the work of Kate came out of Love For Life and yet he never acknowledges us, promotes what we are doing or gives us air time. If he likes our work so much, why not invite us on his show? And now he is into the "name" - well, how long have we been writing about this? Our first video about it was in February 2012 and there wasn't anything else out there. We first started beating the State Debt Recovery Office 2008-2010 when we told them that Arthur was not the authorised representative or owner of the "name". and that they should take it up with the administrators of that "name". After 2 years of writing us letters, they stopped. That was it. Nothing more except the occasional form letter dangling a carrot trying to get Arthur to take the bait.

25 May at 14:29

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Arthur Cristian

Who else is talking about the curses and the reactions to trauma that need to be resolved if we are to be free of "The System? You can give up the "name" all you want but if you haven't let go of the trauma, you will still be a system slave because you will still be reliant on "The System". This is why we are strong on remedy and why we have worked out a step by step practical, every day remedy to let go of the trauma, let go of "The System" and co-create paradise again.

25 May at 14:30

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Robert Petrovski

Remedy or backup plan is key to every action. This is why when revolutions in society take place the higher powers still giggle as they seem to impose their own leader once again as society always seeks a savior. Our society has conditioned us to have a physical savior to remedy us after a revolution.

25 May at 15:05

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Robert Petrovski

Remember, the way to control the opposition is to lead it!

25 May at 15:06

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Arthur Cristian

Will they wake up Robert...... sigh.......

25 May at 15:10

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Robert Petrovski

The obvious answer is NO. People have been conditioned so well that intel is everywhere, including in my face everyday and sometimes it's difficult to disseminate it unless someone by chance points it out. I do know however, that LOVE expressions are key in my day to day life and that too has become a challenge when so many people are so cold and heartless.

25 May at 15:12

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Robert Petrovski

I'm dependent on the mark of the beast even today and the path out of this is one that brings many problems with family and friends.

25 May at 15:15

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Arthur Cristian

A major part of the plan that brings in the NWO is to incite violence leading to revolution. This is what the Satanic/Freemasonic world WANTS - We promote the opposite - a peaceful do no harm turning away from "The System" where millions of us give up self-centeredness to serve each other in the co-creation of living paradise = Kindom. We know that you live for this too - We need to start getting more serious and committed to co-creating a living paradise in present-sense that sets a precedence, a do no harm example to break the back of the NWO operatives. People need to see/sense how to live without "The System".

25 May at 15:16

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Robert Petrovski

The heart of many people is growing tired of the old rhetoric and revolutions seem to be the expression. I can only imagine that more revolutions and havoc will be played out by society over the next 20 or so years which will bring light of a new paradigm, namely controlled once again by the NWO if we don't find a remedy soon!

25 May at 15:20

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Grant Robinson

I don't usually have to deal with people very much but the last few days have had an in your face experience of what normals are like and considering the tiny time frame this species has to get things right before all is lost I think we are doomed.
Beautiful souls with loving hearts, expressing learned violence, institutionalized stupidity, proud ignorance, casual hypocrisy, shallow belligerent egos buttressed by a foul culture and they are sweethearts who don't even know they are asleep let alone knowing they are in mortal danger.
The nefarious shadow dwellers have done an astonishingly good job, convincing their prisoners to fight for their right to be incarcerated, just flabbergasted,
Therefore tomorrow i shall plant another plant, tell the dragonfly i love it as my brother and listen to the lament of the breeze through the yellow box and spotted gum.

25 May at 21:31

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Deanna Klastow

@Arthur~ I acknowledge and am Grateful for all of your work but I must say in my own experience, I have always stood my ground, papers filed or not, and I realized a long time ago that it is your will that is the ultimate decision maker whether papers are in place or not. I don't necessarily agree one hundred percent with anyones work but I do respect everyones right and I do appreciate that Kate has awoken and started the same process for many to find their path. We do need to work together in co-creation and we need to stop worrying about imaginary lines of who's information is who's. Think about it Arthur, have you ever heard of the hundredth monkey? and if you did do you think the first monkey that learned to peel the sweet potato was angry for not getting credit for it? We shouldn't be doing or living to be acknowledged but rather to learn grow and experience. We need to get back to our tribal space. Look at tribal communities and see who gets credit for what? There is a ripple that has begun and is becoming a wave and soon a tsunami~ If we begin pointing fingers and saying who is right and wrong even though we are all going in the same direction~ Who Wins? I Am Grateful For All You Have Done and I began involving myself in the conversation because I can see that many people who want freedom are imposing borders whether mental or physical. I am seeing people who say that want love and community throwing stones at each other. Do you have all of the answers Arthur or claim to have all of the answers? We need to realize that life is ever changing and we must recognize that we are all different and give each other space to be that. Kate may not have felt a need to mention you because her intention was to wake people up not give you applause. I believe we are winning this battle and I don't want to see it die off and be swept under the rug because we cannot get it together and realize everyone has something to add. You say that these are your words but you admitted yourself that you got it from another. This is called communication whether written or verbal and there are no intellectual property rights on that. Please Arthur look at Tribal communities again who do live in harmony with nature and have never had to file anything to maintain their natural, harmonious lives. I See the Love and Passion You and Your Wife have, I fully understand how it feels when your young and your Mom is not there because she has to work. I am not against you. We need to realize that we are all riding the same wave and it doesn't matter what we are riding on as long as we arrive at the same outcome. I Love You for Everything You Have Done and I Am Grateful. I appreciate you communicating with me so we can both come to an understanding of Truth.

25 May at 22:11

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Arthur Cristian

Deanna, we just posted this on the Facebook Wall.

Revolution Or Revolution
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 25th May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8520

At the heart of all the work we have been putting '"out there" on the net since 2005 has always been about returning to our tribal routes. This determination is a massive driving force behind ALL of our Love For Life work and is found consistently through most of our articles, videos, debates, discussions, podcasts, etc.

We get it that we have a lot in common.

The obvious difference here is that we use the "English Language" to communicate our intentions clearly, word by word, without vaguery or miscomprehension, words communicating the meaning explained in the Oxford Dictionary. If you learn to read exactly what is written before you, you might come to sense our true intentions, sense who we really are and sense where we are really coming from.

There is no need to add meanings that are not found in our writings, meanings that become claims made up out of thin air, all of it rooted in make-believe.

If you go back and read our original thread here and then see/witness what you have added as "your" meaning to our work, you can see why people like Jeanice have come forward to correct you, to clear the way forward in your comprehension of our intentions.

The claims you have made about us are not "our" claims, they were not our intentions, not our creations, not our thoughts, feelings and dreams coming from our lives. You are both re-presenting the life of the man Kate and re-presenting the lives of Arthur & Fiona Cristian. At no "time" was Kate, Arthur & Fiona present to your performance of us.

What you have actually done here is attempt to kidnap all our characters so that you can impersonate us here in this thread to set up the "storytelling" performance of all of us, of your making, IN YOUR IMAGE.

It is clear that you are NOT the first parties Kate or Arthur or Fiona, yet you are clearly making it out that what you, a 3rd party, say's is actually coming from our intentions, from our thoughts, feelings and dreams, that all these added meanings you introduced into our writings has all come from us.

This is blatant fraud and is lying Deeana.

All the reasons why we dissociated our work and our lives from Kate's work and Kate's life is CLEARLY explained in our original thread, ALL OF IT. There was nothing more to say because it was all said, all written with pure and sincere intentions - we provided FULL-DISCLOSURE so that there was no misunderstandings going on.

We point this out so that you might learn from this as we learnt from this over the years and rout it out of our waking life habits. If Kate wants to sort things out then Kate needs to get in contact with us to sort it out. We refuse to re-present Kate as we refuse to let anyone re-present us.

And yes, we attune with everything beautiful and inspiring in your last post. Thanks - We look forward to getting to know you and learning about your dreams for the co-creation of the dream of life.

26 May at 01:07

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Blu Skys Intexas

the only saver ur goin to find is not in the system it is not on any paper work this is what Kate a dresses on an the legal name( mark of beast) an the number of the beast is 666 it is the number of a man.

26 May at 01:13

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Arthur Cristian

Where do you think Kate got all this information from??? You have just written out the work we put out over and over and over again on the net going back many years.

26 May at 01:15

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Arthur Cristian

BUT what Kate and you are addressing is ONLY HALF of the remedy - Kate left the other half out.... WHY????

26 May at 01:16

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Blu Skys Intexas

I did not get that from Kate I al ways known this I read mi script urs when I wuz about 6/7 befor any one could realy corrupt mi mind Kate has gotten some information from me an knew exactly what I wuz saing when everyone else dismisses it an she says it al thye time listen wit ur eyes and see with ur ears as long as ppl stay in the literal (current state of mind) will not see/hear this It is as simple as Kate says lose the name and yet it will be the hardest thin for ppl to do until they know who they are and I got a lot of love for those ppl coz it is a narrow path and thin she says win the game we al made a contract with our creator befor commin here to play the game so get in the game scriptures say finesh ur first works ask ur wife what kinda of games did she and her friends play or the little nursery rymes when they were youngsters/yung stars Kate an I didn't leave anythin out this is something that man needs to leave out of his beleifs.I sent u and ur wife a post a few months ago about a summons and ask what u thot about what i rote on the back u rote back an told me that I first must get mi house in order I have no hard feelins towards any one but mi house is in order I have been ready to go home for a long time mi house is here and it is called Aquarious everyone needs to pull it together because this is a war between good and evil and the grand prize is our soul

26 May at 04:50

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Naturr Boii

dropping the 'name' and running away is not remedy
and neither are these stories

26 May at 06:39

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Arthur Cristian

@ Blu Skys Intexas - The demonic world operates as apparitions that are demons projected, performed and controlled by Satanists through remote projection, remote viewing & remote control = marionettes pulled at the strings by master puppeteers.

There are numerous methods used to attack victims with, this includes but not limited to the sounds of English & other read and write alphabet languages, images coming out of Hollywood, TV, Videos, Movies, Internet, Advertising, Media, etc, etc, and processed foods/liquids (nature) containing dead MAN placentas, abortioned babies, tortured-ritualised men, women, children and animals found in over 20,000 processed food/liquid products, chemtrails, chemicalised/fluoridated/chlorinated water, vaccinations, etc, etc.

Satanists have many, many, mediums being used for these ethereal/aethereal "psychic" attacks and it is a vast pantomime being carried out in the water of MANS (our) breath (collective-consciousness) since this non-sense began "long-ago".

There is NO such natural-living-sensory-life-forms as "Aquarius", "mind", "contract with our creator", "before coming here", "play the game", "game scriptures", "war between good and evil", "summons", "time", etc...... These are all part of the demonic props of a "fantasy game" being performed between your ears that has sucked you in through belief, faith and associated opinion, all deeply rooted in trauma/reactions-to-trauma since whenever you claimed these demons as being part of the reality of the life of the fallen-MAN you are presently co-creating.

You are being seriously deceived BIG-TIME.

Trauma and reactions to trauma has got you hooked, line and sinker to the master puppeteers who are messing terribly with your real-life.

Can you please bring forward all these images as sensory-living first parties without you having to perform on behalf of them as a third party so that the living can have a direct sensory first party to first party experience with them?

If you can't do this in PRESENT-SENSE, then all you've got is this "psychic attack" being played out between your ears which is making a terrible mess of your real-life as MAN. = you have been misled by all the perpetrators of this LIE = "The System".

The fact is YOU ARE ALREADY HOME where all our ancestors and descendants have always been. Those who remembered who they really are and what they are really part of are already amongst the living in present-sense as living creators/co-creators of the dream of life.

There is NO journey to and from anywhere to anywhere because we already are where we have always been. Only the conflict of fantasies, illusions & delusions bouncing to and fro between your ears of these "psychic attacks" is giving you the impression that these demonic apparitions "exist".

When you completely stop giving these demons your life-force-energy as listed above (stop eating/drinking processed foods/liquids, etc, given up drugs, alcohol, eating meat & dairy products) and you are strong enough with your free-will determination to be clear of these man-made-entities/thought-forms. these demons will fade away from your dreaming - they will no longer play a part in the dreaming of the creation of the MAN you are creating in present-sense.

"Time", "space", "after-life-destination" con-cepts/con-structs are all props in the Satanic Grand Architects glorious holy scheme.of MANS fall into committing spiritual suicide.

We have just provided you with some very clear clues as to who Kate really is and who Kate is really working for. Things are not what they seem. The greatest lie and liar is the one closest to the truth, they cause the greatest damage of all.

In the middle of the word belief is the word lie and in the middle of the word lie is "i" and "i" (demons in/of "name") is the greatest lie and liar of all. "i" is the "all-seeing eye" - the victims all-see the demons being part of truth/reality/nature/creation/etc, being part of their real-lives, but this is a lie.

All demons are reflections in the mirror of "i", who you presently believe you are. They are the echoes of non-sensory images that are the apparitions con-ceived by Satanists bouncing to and fro between your ears and while you worship these demons they are the "illuminated light" of your making, of your all-seeing-eye, to glorify their grand deception, holy scriptures being at the heart of this grand deception. You are "right", the grand prize is your "soul" - they already got it!

26 May at 10:10

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Kenneth Jeffrey Slem

My baby and I have Eternity ahead of us and if you live with the stupid then you live with the dead.

26 May at 09:56

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Max Igan

Lol... I have to comment here, just this once, its way too tempting not to, simply because this post of Arthur's - made to 'dissaccociate' himself from a work he is not associated with to begin with - is a perfect example of the subtle programming Arthur Cristian constantly employs, and stands as a great example of a spell master at work. The point being this:

Arthur is in no way associated with kate of gaia's work anyway. He just isn't. We have all been talking about name fraud for years. Many, many people have been doing so for many, many years. Even I have been saying for years that you are not the name, the name is just ink spots on a piece of paper. You will likely find radio shows where I mentioned it back in 2009 when I first began broadcasting on air before I had ever heard of Arthur. What Kate has done, is find the way, the simple steps that can be used to navigate out of corporate jurisdiction, and is offering to the world, nothing more. The work is not based on Arthurs work in any way, shape or form. Arthur however, by posting an article to 'disassociate' himself from a work to which he holds no claim, has received no mention, and is already not associated with in any way, is actually actively working to associate himself with the work, claim it as his own intellectual property and attempt use it as an mechanism with which to steer people away from confronting the system and convince them to join his commune. He does this, quite literally, ALL the time with anyone whose work he feels he may be able to manipulate to further his cause. Arthur is terrified of the people uniting for any cause that is not his own and, if you read his posts - not that anyone really can, because each is a self aggrandizing, mind numbing diatribe that he uses to harvest the energy and time it takes to read and decipher his psychobabble - you find it is full of subtle programming and written in such a manner as to confound the reader with logical fallacies and kind of numb one into an almost trance state where you are open to his programming, the spells he is attempting to weave and the NLP he includes in his lengthy diatribes. In typical narcissistic fashion, you will also notice that every link he posts as any reference to his claims, also refers ONLY to his own work, as he constantly uses his own previous claims as proof to back up any new claims he makes. Unfortunately Arthur is highly delusional and is running very deep Vatican programming, hence his constant references to satanism and his claim that the name is the 'mark of the beast'. His main goal in life appears to be self promotion coupled with relentless and tireless attempts at spreading distrust, disunity, division, misinformation, outright lies and fabrications. And he does this without a shred of remorse or consideration for those he hurts along the way... He does not ever attempt to converse with the people he makes his accusations about in order to at least research the matter. As a point of reference., he began secretly spreading disinformation and lies about me, completely behind my back, in news letters and private emails without ever once discussing things with me at all, long before I ever confronted him about it, so I know his M.O. very well. And he always, always uses his attacks on others as a mechanism for self promotion. This is pure and very obvious sociopathy...

The fact is that all researchers have their own view, depending upon what information they have been able to assimilate, and some are more awake than others. Some attempt to start movements because they believe they have it figured out, sometimes they may have, some still have a lot to lean, but many know something has to change and so they do what they can, what feels right to them, in order to help awaken others. You see the reality is that we are all here together and everyone holds a piece of the puzzle regardless of their level of knowledge...

Respect and dialogue is what is needed. All egos aside, lets put it all on the table and see what we can make work... So... Be very, very careful of people like Arthur Cristian and ask yourself the question as to why on earth he would spend so very, very much of his time attacking other researchers - people whom he does not know, has never met, never spoken to, never looked into their eyes. Arthur Cristian has perhaps done more to promote distrust, disinformation, disunity, confusion and outright lies than almost any other single person I have come across, except perhaps Ben Fullford - though Fullford is nowhere near as subtly deceptive as Arthur, nor does he appear to be actively seeking to program his followers the way Arthur does.

Look into your heart folks because that is where you will find all the truth you need.

For my part, Well, Im thinking of driving down to Bowral and knocking on his front door so he can make his false accusations to my face. He began posting lies about Mark McMurtrie and that's what Mark did... Arthur ran off with his tail between his legs and never attacked him again. I may just do the same thing... I could do with a drive and it would be kinda fun

My apologies for the length of this post.

Over and out

26 May at 12:14

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Naturr Boii

And all stories change with perception.
Max, hope you do drive out. Have wanted to travel to see the family for a while. Truthfully, with different intent than mentioned by you...but no less, sense is often over looked online, and feel coming together to better grasp each other is often needed.

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Arthur Cristian

Max, in context to the way "name" is used as we have clearly explained in the body of the Love For Life work, there was nothing out there anywhere. We know that because between March 2005 and mid 2007 we were heavily involved with many hundreds of awe-inspiring good hearted men and women working on the front line of exposing the corruption in the courts, etc, in the USA, Canada, UK, NZ, Australia, & elsewhere. Many of these people still remain in contact with us and are friends. They all know who they are and most of their work is found in the Love For Life website.

If the "name" was realised in the light of the work we exposed then we would have learnt all about it between March 2005 and mid 2007 from any of the many hundreds of freedom-truthers, constitutional, common law, citizen, etc, etc, fighters/exposers, etc, etc, many who had been at this work for up to twenty years before we came along.

There was nothing out there. If it was out there we would have been using the material for our court cases.

Please bring forward documented factual information that has been filed in court prior March 2005 that reflects the information we started bringing out for all to see - we would love to sight such documents.

What we did was show that "name" is the mark (contract) of/to the beast and using "name" already has you be the right party.

This has nothing to do with the strawman, person, agent-in-commerce info because the duality of name with or without caps being argued over was a blatant LIE - a yellow brick road for the duped to go down.

The fact was ---------- ANYTHING to do with NAME already is the contract, regardless whether "name" in caps or no caps or a mixture of both or whether it comes with titles or not, middle names or not, etc, etc....

A massive difference here.

This is why Arthur dropped all contracts with "name" and started beating them.

Bring forward the evidence to back your claims Max.

Max, almost everything you have written is a load of bullshit. You have made all this up because you have nothing of FACT to back your claims with. All you've got to offer is character assassinations which clearly reveals what you are all about. Many are waking up to see through your Intel Psyop Program.

Refer to the post we put up about you and Mark Darwin and answer the questions. https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203677889935853

A simple yes or no will do.

You see with us, we welcome you coming after us as much as you want because not only do you come out in the open for all to see, you also only leave a trail of doubt behind you because you don't provide any factual evidence to back your claims, NOTHING.

This is a clear INTEL trademark.

Many are noticing the real Max Igan wolf coming out from behind the front of the "nice sheep" persona. No matter what you do you are destroying your "front" and are being exposed for all to see.

All lies are curses and all liars are processing curses.

If you are so confident in what you say, why not have a 3 hour live debate with us, with no interruptions, and be recorded for uploading to YouTube etc, for all to see? How about that Max?

As for the first party Kate, he is most welcome to talk with us first parties and sort everything out between us. Thus far, it appears he is not capable of this. We are not interested in dealing with 3rd party impostors of Kate and Arthur & Fiona Cristian.

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Arthur Cristian

This is a conversation with people that we claim are INTEL agents, Mark Darwin of Truthology and Max Igan. It all started because we asked Ivana https://www.facebook.com/ivana.dirlicsindija/posts/10152427160663469 why she was taking our posts down from her Facebook Wall when the information we are putting up is to help people wake up to how they are being manipulated. This is what Ivana says she lives/stands for too. We also said that Mark Darwin and Max Igan were INTEL BIG-TIME, implying, why is she protecting them by taking down posts that rout them out. Ivana posted this (above link): To my Perth friends! Don't miss this opportunity...Freedom Summit is going on tonight in your neighborhood....And they are offering free tickets!!! Lucky you guys I went to see it here in Sydney and it was a brilliant event. There are some amazing speakers to be there ......Don't miss it!

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Ivana replied:

Max Igan is not intel......neither is Mark Darwin. You got that wrong, BIGTIME Arthur/Fiona! Bigtime! By the way, I don't like when people sharing their stuff on my wall as a separate posts.....if there is something you want to say related to specific thread feel free and post it under that thread, but pls don't use my wall to promote your messages....it's not cool. Ta

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Mark Darwin replied:

Yes Arthur, I am intell and so is Max...... Mate you discredit yourself BIGTIME with such rubbish posts. Heal mate....

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We replied with these posts.............

In reference to this video posted here: https://www.facebook.com/jeanice.barcelo/posts/10203671779503096,

Jeanice Barcello wrote today asking: Arthur Cristian - can you share more of your thoughts about the metal bowls? Do you feel the same about crystal bowls?

Hi Jeanice, everything of nature/earth/life, all sensory-life-forms, inanimate or not, has an ORIGINAL purpose for the dream of life - they exist where they are for that purpose. All we need to do is attune with them for them to reveal their true purpose with each of us.

This is very different to having your head spinning with stories about crystals, crystal healings, metal bowl resonances, etc, etc, not coming from these sensory-life-forms, BUT coming from impostors who hijacked the natural characters (information) of sensory-life-forms so they can impersonate them, to act as the 3rd party storytellers of information about the crystals that has not come directly from the crystals, etc, and making out that it does. The fact is this is a lie, they are lying, they made it all up and are the blind-spots making a terrible mess of our real lives.

Just as every grain of sand is unique/original, so is every crystal, so is every MAN. So how can we say that "quartz crystals do this and are good for that" when by doing so we are lumping all quartz crystals in one basket and all of MAN in one basket. Every time someone puts something in our head and we superimpose it on life, we are creating a blind spot because we are not communicating directly with the life form. This is how we form "The System".

This blind spot is a demon controlling your thoughts, feelings (turned/twisted into e-motions) and actions. How many blind spots do we all have, as we struggle to reclaim who we really are?????? We just have to keep recognising them and letting go, recognising them and letting go, recognising them and letting go, and trying to remain humble because we can be sure that the area where we put our noses in the air and either refuse to acknowledge our blind spots or justify them, are the areas where we are most in the grip of the demons.

EVERYTHING of the dream of life is sacred - not just the crystal spots, or the pristine spots, or a "special" tree. Even the land we have scarred and carved is sacred, even if it doesn't seem so because of what we have done to it. All the carving and scarring is the blind spots telling us that it is ok to carve and scar, which is why it is carved and scarred. If we didn't have the story telling of cars, non-natural houses, mobile phones, ovens, etc, in our heads, we would never think to have mines, or to create roads, etc. Same with mining for crystals.

The uniqueness and originality of everything in its natural, original and unique "place" is what allies with our uniqueness and originality too. If we are brought up by pristine nature, we are able to tune into the uniqueness and originality about everything and the uniqueness and originality of everything brings out the uniqueness and originality of each of us, which resonates back with nature. We co-create nature with our unique and original thoughts and dreams and nature gives us access to the unique, original thoughts and dreams of all of MAN co-creating with nature. This allows us to be present to all of creation to create our uniqueness/originality which expands the unique original dream of life with the presence of our unique original lives.

Imagine being a young child in nature without any system thoughts and stories in our heads; we have the natural ability to access all the uniqueness and originality of every life form of nature right here and now, the WHOLE of it, in present sense because that information is who we really are, it is our consciousness. And there is no "journey", no "ritual", no "training", to get to the information - it is there in present sense at every moment. It is only when we get blind spots that we disconnect from consciousness in present sense, creating "time", distance and separation so that we are no longer conscious of the information of the dream of life. It is when we are no longer conscious that we are able to scar, carve and destroy, unable and unwilling to sense the harm we are causing. We no longer sense the original unique purpose of what we are destroying. Our heritage has become an abomination passed on to our progeny. We have forsaken vast "parts" of who we really are.

Everything of life, from the ocean beds to the highest mountains, to the forests, to all the celestial bodies, to everything deep beneath Earth, is the breeze of MANS consciousness blowing across Earth to ruffle our hair and caress our faces, it is the warm embracing sunlight of MANS unique and original truth raising each of us in the joy and celebration of our elation for being the unique and original MAN we all really are. It is constantly present.

Untampered by "system thought", the blind spots, we honour, protect, celebrate, rejoice, nurture, and expand the uniqueness of our ancestors as our children will honour and protect ours, as we protect theirs by protecting them from system thought, the blind-spots. But alas, this is not to be - we are all deeply bogged down with storytelling blind-spots that are demons leading us out front with almost everything we think feel and do for a whole life-"time", destroying the uniqueness and originality of all of life. We are now the scarred and carved remains of who we were meant to be, of MAN. And people want to buy crystals that have been carved from Earth and sit "feeling their power" and performing rituals with them. Are crystals powerful? Of course they are, but in our present dumbed down state, we have no idea how to connect with them or use them to aid in our co-creation.

And here we are, creating "freedom" movements, trying to create freedom and truth for each other, all the time we are continuing to scar, carve and destroy MAN/Earth/nature. We already are uniquely and originally free, we just have to live it, be it (be left alone untampered to be truly free), just as all the information we need of creation, of our creation, is available, if we would only sense it, if our heads hadn't been tampered with.

How do foundations/trust/money/commerce/movements of freedom, etc, create freedom? They are just image power blind spots and this is what the whole Freemasonic/Satanic Intel world is all about - capturing gullible people through their blind spots, through storytelling from third parties, which is what the freedom/truth movement and all the INTEL agents involved is all about, desecrating our fellow MAN. It is full of men and women acting as imposters of a freedom (the thought of freedom is not freedom) over other men and women by claiming that their story telling of a freedom is the story of freedom when this is a BLATANT LIE.

How can you re-present another MAN and have the MAN still be unique and original? You can't it is impossible.

The freedom/truther INTEL agents come as rescuers, saviours, messiahs, etc, just as the Knights Templars waded into the Crusades, and performed benevolent works. They rescued those under a deeply traumatised image power problem to put them into another deeply traumatised image power problem. Nothing changed. The trauma, the blind spots, never left them.

The sleight of hand cleverly crafts its deception.

Everything about the freemasonic/satanic world is about Kidnapping MAN and putting MAN under the image power of their stories, their blind spots.

Nothing has changed.

This is blatant black magic because they are forcing other men and women under their image power of a freedom of their standing, their storytelling of freedom that forces everyone under their standing of a freedom. There is no uniqueness and originality of MAN here. It is still all about the "name" of freedom and we are just imposters committing fraud. One freedom fits all - this is communism, socialism, dictatorship, the Cesar Empire, democracy, the reincarnation of Roman Catholic Church and the Church of England under the Start Trek Federation version of freedom, aka the New World Order.

Watch out for the rescuers who come to lead you out of the frying pan into the fire. Watch out for Sacha Stone with his HUMANITAD, NEW EARTH PROJECT (Ushering In A New Era Of Planetary Innovation And Leadership - lolllllll), watch out for Frank O'Collins with his UCADIA and ONE HEAVEN, watch out for THRIVE, ZEITGEIST, UBUNTU, OPPT, SWISSINDO, ONE EARTH this or that, NEW WORLD this or that, ONE CONSCIOUSNESS this or that, watch out for David Icke, Jordan Maxwell, Kevin Annett, Benjamin Fulford, Mark Passio, Santos Bonacci ASTROTHEOLOGY, etc, watch out for FREEDOM this or that movements, organisations, like Mark Darwin with his TRUTHOLOGY and FREEDOM SUMMITS, etc, as THEY ARE ALL Knights Templar (Freemasonic/Satanic) engineered Intel bullshit. They are all blind-spots for the duped to remain blind to who they really are and what they are really part of. They are ALL shepherds to the sheeple, the duped.

With all of these movements/shepherds, everything is in the "name". It is not naturally expressed and lived in/of the MAN. It is the "name" Zeitgeist, the "name" Ubuntu", the "name" OPPT, the "name" Freedom. These are all shadows/reflections bouncing to and fro between the victims ears and they are all the blind spots keeping victims under control and pliant.

There are multi millions of men, women and children suffering under "The System", the blind spots, now being got at with the very same methods that got them in this situation in the first place, under the guise of getting them out of "The System". They are being provided with another system ("NAME") of "freedom"!

We are all unique and original, not one the same as the next, so how can we be provided with the same, textbook freedom?

This is a lie, fraud.

This problem is appearing everywhere now - remedies full of mantras that sound as though they are offering just what we need but are in fact only offering conformity and more image power, the blind spots. Again, we are relying on others to provide us with Freedom through the "name" Freedom, rather than taking FULL-responsibility for our lives in present-sense. Best we are all left alone to recreate our real-lives uniquely.

To expand on these themes in greater detail please read this post http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514 and follow the sequential order links provided to other Love For Life articles and videos which collectively provide the big-picture we see/sense, particularly these posts, listed below.

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At this link: https://www.facebook.com/kipper/posts/10203671756662525

Capri Adirim posted this comment:

Sacha Stone Beyond Time, Money & Fear - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKVT1p18-o4&feature=share
New Earth Founder Sacha Stone interviewed by CNW TV in Belgium. This short (graphically animated) interview outlines the New Earth vision and it's zero-point dimension. Please SHARE this widely and join the rising chorus of sovereignty and consciousness-in-action.

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We replied......

The World is "The System" - no such thing as "Old" Earth and "New" Earth - If we accept, honour, protect, nurture and celebrate uniqueness/originality of everything and don't interfere whatsoever then there is no "old" or :new" - just creation/co-creation of life from instant to instant of our every breath.

Some of the Humanitad members are Intel, people like Jerry Prus & John Walsh - He is revealing his part in the NWO ---- he says..... in reference to Chile "held in the protectorate in the "trust" outside the jurisdiction of any nation state under pure law".

WHAT A LOAD OF SPIN-DOCTORING BULLSHIT THIS. IS.... "UNDER PURE LAW".

What Pure Law?

Whose Pure Law?

And who were the legal-papers filed to/with?

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Capri Adirim replied

Arthur he said 'pure law' is individual law. We each choose individually. "Do no harm" imho should be universal.

Arthur, I am sure even within your own home their are 'rules' such as keep the toilet seat down, keep the music at a level that does not disrupt other members of the family that say are trying to sleep/nap etc. etc. Ones 'job/rule' may be that one takes out the garbage while the other does dishes etc. Unless we live completely autonomous (no other human beings around to interact/commune with) then in reality we can't really 'do as we please'.

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We replied................

And who is this lawful legal authority, based in pure law, with the power/force to protect this community?

Sounds like the Federation (NWO) of Star Trek coming together behind the scenes. Watch out..... anyone who believes this shit is being had, are being led down another yellow brick road.

And has faculties for "economics"!

And much of the infrastructure are dead corpse buildings requiring "The System" to build, maintain them etc..... The NWO is a cashless economy which AND he supports "Virtual Government" ----- UNDER UNIVERSAL LAW..... LOLLLLLLL etc, etc..... This is not a remedy whatsoever.

He also says "the mask is almost off and once that mask falls and the emperor is found to have no clothes standing behind the curtain the "world" is going to change very very quickly......"

Would love to have a discussion with him". He wrote to us a few years ago. He never answered the questions we raised with him back then.

This post is expanding on what we wrote to Jeanice Barcello as posted above:

They are BLIND SPOTS Capri...... there is no such thing as "individual law" and "universal", again this is "NAME" "individual law" and "NAME" "universal", implying "NAME" do no harm "uni-verse all law" and implying "NAME" "FREEDOM"

Remember the stuff we put up about phonetics: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203667898126064 (there are a few of the same post floating around, this is just one of them)

Universe = UNI - VERSE - ALL = brainwashing = blind spots.

Individual = In Divide U All = brainwashing = blind spots.

Uni = ONE = a combining form occurring in loanwords from Latin (universe ), used, with the meaning “one,” in the formation of compound words (unicycle ) - NOTICE THE WORD "LOAN-WORDS" MEANING NOT YOURS and CHOICE - THIS IS NOT FREEDOM.

Verse = metrical composition; poetry, especially as involving metrical form. a particular type of metrical line: a hexameter verse. a succession of metrical feet written, printed, or orally composed as one line; one of the lines of a poem. (not in technical use) a stanza. MEANING = CONTRIVED, MECHANICAL, PRE-DETERMINED = this is not freedom - this is CHOICE! You did not dream, invent and manufacture the car, you just learnt to drive and started driving it. Again, this is not freedom, this is choice.

All = the whole of (used in referring to quantity, extent, or duration): all the cake; all the way; all year. the whole number of (used in referring to individuals or particulars, taken collectively): all students. the greatest possible (used in referring to quality or degree): with all due respect; with all speed. every: all kinds; all sorts. any; any whatever: beyond all doubt. MEANING = ONE SHOE FITS ALL FOREVER = ONE SYSTEM (many system thoughts in one system = law - individual law, pure law, universal law and all other bullshit laws conjured up) - THIS IS ABSOLUTE - THIS IS ALL THE CHOICES YOU'VE GOT - THIS IS NOT FREEDOM!

Metrical = pertaining to meter or poetic measure. composed in meter or verse. pertaining to measurement. MEANING - RULES MADE UP BY SOMEONE ELSE - NOT YOU - Again, CHOICE - NOT FREEDOM!

Measurement = the act of measuring. a measured dimension. extent, size, etc., ascertained by measuring. a system of measuring or measures: liquid measurement. MEANING - THE ENCLOSURE - YOU CAN'T OPERATE/THINK OUTSIDE IT.

Unicycle = a vehicle with one wheel, especially a pedal-driven device kept upright and steered by body balance, commonly used by acrobats and other performers. - MEANING - YOU ONLY HAVE ONE OPTION = CHOICE - YOU ARE TRAPPED IN THE CYCLE OF THE UNI ---------- VERSE

In = (used to indicate inclusion within space, a place, or limits): walking in the park. (used to indicate inclusion within something abstract or immaterial): in politics; in the autumn. (used to indicate inclusion within or occurrence during a period or limit of time): in ancient times; a task done in ten minutes. (used to indicate limitation or qualification, as of situation, condition, relation, manner, action, etc.): to speak in a whisper; to be similar in appearance. (used to indicate means): sketched in ink; spoken in French. MEANING = Inside the enclosure, the word spells of "name" that imprison you, which all comes from education. You have had 20 years + experience of system thought to prepare you for the "name" words of Sacha, etc. Very few of us have original thoughts. This is all black magic in action, compelling you to perform under these word spells of "name".

Divid (in prescriptions) divide. In Latin, divid means divide

Divide = to separate into parts, groups, sections, etc. to separate or part from something else; sunder; cut off. to deal out in parts; distribute in shares; apportion. to cleave; part. to separate in opinion or feeling; cause to disagree: The issue divided the senators. MEANING = SEPARATION FROM DIRECT EXPERIENCE WITH NATURE = SEPARATION FROM WHO WE REALLY ARE AND WHAT WE ARE REALLY PART OF. Why else would you fight for the spells that Sacha is weaving? Blind spots keeping you blind to the "name" spells. All this is reaction to trauma.

U = You = the pronoun of the second person singular or plural, used of the person or persons being addressed, in the nominative or objective case: You are the highest bidder. It is you who are to blame. We can't help you. This package came for you. Did she give you the book? one; anyone; people in general: a tiny animal you can't even see. (used in apposition with the subject of a sentence, sometimes repeated for emphasis following the subject): You children pay attention. You rascal, you! Informal. (used in place of the pronoun your before a gerund): There's no sense in you getting upset. Archaic. a. yourself; yourselves: Get you home. Make you ready. b. a plural form of the pronoun ye. noun, plural yous. something or someone closely identified with or resembling the person addressed: Don't buy the bright red shirt—it just isn't you. It was like seeing another you. the nature or character of the person addressed: Try to discover the hidden you. MEANING = THE IDENTIFICATION OF THE HUE-MAN WITH THE "NAMES" OF "THE SYSTEM" - THE REFLECTION/SHADOWS OF YOU BOUNCING TO AND FRO BETWEEN THE EARS THAT IS NOT YOU.

All = REFER ABOVE

Individual = They divide us with their brainwashing of creed, culture, nation, etc, and rule us with the choices they provide us to perform "name" in "The System" - You did not create the English language with legalese, its mathematics, its geometry, its university courses & careers, titles, standings, etc, you did not create the education, religion, politics, law, Hollywood, TV, Media, Advertising, entertainment, supermarkets, highways, transport, corporations doing whatever, etc, etc, AND YOU DID NOT CREATE "NAME". They are all just choices provided for you. THIS IS NOT FREEDOM. See the post on the Mountain MAN charged and arrested with eating food in the forest because he was hungry: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203666156282519

You are seriously mistaking choice for freedom here. Choice has nothing to do with freedom. Shopping down the aisles of a supermarket is not freedom, it is choice, its ALL BEEN PROVIDED FOR YOU BY OTHERS = slaves/slavery.

What you are seeing is a BLATANT PSYOP PROGRAM where you have been hypnotised to perform to suggestion, to move to your master's command, all the while in a deep sleep.

The extensive brainwashing you have already been provided with is where you use your choice for imagining "individual law" or "universal law" and with it, "freedom". There is NO FREEDOM here. Only sheeple go through the gates of enclosures of one choice of green paddock to another but they have no freedom because they were already enclosed and forced by sheep dogs, etc, to move from one enclosure to another. Sheeple do the same thing when shopping down the isles of supermarkets or driving on roads to petrol stations, clothing shops, etc, etc......

IT IS ALL CHOICE - IT IS NOT FREEDOM

In fact, only sheeple are trapped in the UNI-VERSE-ALL that is ONE STORY going around and around and around their heads, bouncing to and fro as shadows/reflections of "name" "freedom", but this is a blatant lie because it was really only a choice already provided for them - they were already got at before they were duped into believing they had freedom within the story-telling of the uni-verse they are performing/believing in as "NAME" "FREEDOM".

Working together as a team effort around the home has NOTHING to do with universal or individual law. That is freedom when all first parties come to the table to co-create their uniqueness/originality for the team effort. NOTE: there are no third parties coming in-between any of them, telling them how to think, feel and act about anything. A MASSIVE DIFFERENCE HERE.

We need to be really vigilant and discerning about the blind-spots that are making a mess of our lives as we think/believe they are part of our true-freedom, when the FACT is, they were choices, and nothing more, meaning there is no freedom to be found there = YOU HAVE NO FREEDOM.

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We then posted all of the above on Ivana's thread and then posted this comment

Mark, please show us in all your work and in all Max's work, where you are providing freedom and not choice and that you are not providing the "names" of freedom and manipulating and using and abusing many, many people in the "name" of freedom, when it is only choice masquerading as freedom. How many curses are you manipulating into processing in the "name" of money as they react to trauma? You probably need to do some background work into what we are saying to comprehend fully what we are saying but, if you are really interested in truth and freedom for all, we assume that you will leave no stone unturned, in case you are on the wrong path. If you can't prove it and you won't change your ways, then who are you answerable to, who are you working for? Who is your master?

There are many INTEL agents out there spreading lies and causing people to get hurt in the process and there are also many, many people extremely angry about many, many things and some of them are vigilantes who have no problem carrying guns and using them. They have been reading our work, and the work of others who are putting out information that is waking people up to the truth of how people are being manipulated across the board. Many of them have been watching the scene for years and we have been asked to join them, which we will not do because we are not into violence. They have been harmed in various ways and those who are out there in front, leading the way in the psyop freedom/truth movement, as well as though associated with them, will be sitting ducks when the pressure cooker blows. For example, someone like Ivana could be a target if she is associated with you and associated with the INTEL networks that have caused so much harm to so many. Even Stephanie is a sitting duck, and all the others who support you. This is true healing that we are offering you here. Pull out, save your lives and stop the harm, stop the lying, stop the blatant manipulation. .

Our commitment is to wake people up to the real tactics and more and more people are waking up to how they have been used and abused. We don't think you guys realise the enormity of the backlash swelling against all INTEL.

This is Fiona and Arthur both writing in all these posts.

26 May at 16:42

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Jan Aloha

26 May at 16:38

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Arthur Cristian

Jan, this is not a quarrel and it is not over freedom-truth and Arthur is completely out of "The System" - no corporation owners involved with Arthur to be applauding over a quarrel.

26 May at 18:46

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Shaun Hamer

outside the box is open forum, all you have to do is skype in.

26 May at 19:06

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Wade Libbis

This was an interesting read. In Arthur and Fiona's defence....What they purpose as the solution I have felt in my being for a long time is the answer.... a mass "Exodus from the system" "Gifts of Love/Life" A "Re-education" in regards to all the poison and me, myself and I mind set...as expressed in their 10 steps to Kindom.
This has always been my intuitive thinking from my early teens...In defence of Max, I've been listening to him for quite some time now. Watched him live etc.
I do think Max is right, everyone holds a piece of the puzzle and needs to come together, but I hold in high esteem Arthur and Fiona's "solution" to the question, how to slay the beast?
From my humble perspective I don't believe either of you are pro NWO deceivers. Ya like two opposing political party's who if come together could create something powerful towards slaying the beast but you are at each others throats...In my way of thinking there are no messiahs...there cant be coz I am lol...Max, Arthur and Fiona...I love you guys for the quality of your characters and what you stand for...I believe you are all quality beings with aspirations towards love for mankind Love for Life And surviving the Matrix.

26 May at 20:25

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Jones Common As Muck Tom

unfortunately even to the destruction of the planet the masses will still not turn away from their own demise , they have become comfortably numb

26 May at 22:34

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Wade Libbis

Say Hurah hurah...whatever will be will be...

26 May at 22:36

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Arthur Cristian

Shaun - we provided all the reasons why we put the Disassociation in place with Kate Of Gaia and his work. This is our standing. Kate is not answerable to us just as we are not answerable to Kate. BUT, if Kate wants to sort out any issues that come up for Kate about us then this is up to Kate to do so. Our conscience is very clear - we have no e-motional attachments to any outcomes with Kate. We just expose the truth as we see/sense it and move on and do it again and move on and do it again and move on. The most important part of the work we do is the Kindom/Do No Harm Community Remedy which is all about setting MAN free from being under the image power of another MAN. This is all about being conscious of the many ways we cause and support harm and working through how to completely withdraw from supporting and causing harm in all its forms as fast as possible. This is all about a mass exodus out of "The System" back to NO SYSTEM. Refer to many of our posts for more on all this.

Yesterday at 02:02

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Shaun Hamer

i get that. what i meant was outside the box is an open forum, and kate says regularly, anyone who wants to disprove her work is welcome to discuss it live on air, i think it would clear things up somewhat, is all. i noticed jeanice, posted my post, of a section of text from one of your videos as proof/evidence that kate stole your work, which it is not, as far as im concerned, i posted it for what it is, and not as a reference to kate, i have referenced and thanked you in other posts of yours i have uploaded, i attempt always to consider the many ways information travels around, when i post, to some extent to minimise the risk of misinterpretation, from people who maybe arent the ones i was thinking of in posting, dependent on subject matter.but also to condense the point of the post to keep it simple, as so many have no appetite for lengthy reads these days....i remain neutral in regards to the nature and integrity of all others on this path of discovery, we are all travelling on. for instance when i post things relating to the fraud of politics, it is mainly for people i know locally who are still under the spell of it. it doesnt reflect where i am at regarding politics, as i have to 'travel backwards' on my path to address the retarded world of politicking.

Yesterday at 02:24

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Shaun Hamer

sometimes i come up with phrases and i add video/text/photos, in a way of expanding the words i have used, again its all open to interpretation i guess, but i would never purposely post someone's work to further my own point and diminish theirs, i like to think i stay in keeping with the messages i have recieved, while expanding on them where possible. i also never purposely put anyone on a pedestal. i give credit where it is due, of course, and thank you again for your inspiring work,.

Yesterday at 02:30

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Alexandros Agelastos

Don't hold your breath. And why should he take part in Keith's "show" ? Arthur is not an attention whore.

Yesterday at 02:35

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Arthur Cristian

If he has any issues then it is up to Kate to clear things up with us.

KATE OFFERS NO REMEDY TO GET MAN OUT OF "THE SYSTEM" FOREVERMORE - NOTHING - EVERYONE IS STILL STUCK IN "THE SYSTEM". Due to Kate's work, please bring forward someone who is completely out of "The System" for a few years now - we would like to talk to he/she/them and their supporters - we will do a thorough background check.

Yesterday at 02:36

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Shaun Hamer

Alexandros, i asked why not, i didnt say he should. . im not trying to make this argument bigger, i had considered what a discussion would be like with kate and arthur, prior to the dissasociation post arthur put up, i would still like to hear that discussion, though it does look unlikely now. i dont know how many times i have to say im being neutral in my questions, i only care about getting to the truth, i have no interest in personalities and doctrines,

Yesterday at 02:44

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Alexandros Agelastos

Shaun, np mate, i wasn't referring to you anyway, but Jan.

Yesterday at 02:46

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Shaun Hamer ok.

Yesterday at 02:47

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Arthur Cristian

You see with our small tribe we already have someone completely out of "The System" since 2009, and we are working on the next one completely stepping out and then the next one and the next one. Our tribe walks the talk. THIS IS FACT. All our spare waking life is creating living things like this - our goal is to set free hundreds and hundreds of us as part of the Kindom tribe we live for. People who are serious come and get involved in the DOING of FREEDOM and not just the TALKING of FREEDOM. We are MORE interested in talking with people who walk the talk of a living freedom.

From Bare Dirt To Abundance
A Year In The Life Of The
Love For Life Food Forest
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
8th February 2013
51 Minutes 46 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A

Yesterday at 02:47

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Arthur Cristian

This is how we are doing it

The Steps Of Kindom
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life 2006/2007
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

Yesterday at 02:50

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Shaun Hamer

all i can say arthur is many who call into the show have said they are out of the system, but i cannot provide proof of this, just like if someone asked me, i couldnt provide concrete evidence that you and kate are the only ones who have cut all threads from the system.

Yesterday at 02:51

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Arthur Cristian

WE ARE VISIBLE - WE COME WITH FULL-DISCLOSURE - ANYONE FROM ANYWHERE CAN COME HERE AND HAVE A DIRECT EXPERIENCE - NOTHING IS HIDDEN - NOTHING.

Yesterday at 02:53

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Arthur Cristian

Our rest is calling

Yesterday at 02:56

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Shaun Hamer

I know its a slave system, and i intend to witness and experience, real, authentic freedom for every being, not just 'my' in-divide-u-al' freedom, because that too is a lie,, yes, it must be late over there, sleep well, pleasant dreams.

Yesterday at 02:59

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Blu Skys Intexas

I know a couple who also believes they are out of the system they went thru al the legal paperwork they travel with a tag (common law)their names are out of that system but when they got pulled over a wk ago this is what wuz said the cop stoped them becauce they do not have an inspection sticker and my brother told the cop who ask for a drivers lic he told the cop that he didn't need one to travel he did not need a inspection sticker and ect the cop ask him what is your name and as soon as he gave that a cop a name the cop got hostul with him and grab the car door and slug the door open and tried to force him out of the car my brother did not get out of the car but the officer rote him up tickets.So my ? is if the name u believe is urs and is taken out of the system then why did my brother get tickets?why did the cop get hostul when given a name?becaws the name belongs to the system it is not ours so when taken out and then u tell a cop a name ur are looked at as a being a theif and a liar I don't drink tap or aloc don't do drugs I eat mostly fruits yogerts veggies and drink distilled water I don't use sugar and ect I have been judged by Arthur and not once have I judged anyone got nothing but love for the human race I own nothing in this world nothing

Yesterday at 13:16

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Max Igan

one more post

I'll tell you what Arthur. Lets clear all this up once and for all. So in the spirit of open dialogue, I've decided that I'm actually willing to have you on the radio show to present your "remedy" and explain yourself to the world.

Before any of that is presented however, you will be required to present the conclusive evidence you have to back up the false allegations and character assassinations you have directed at me. Evidence that proves your claims Arthur. Not speculation, not conjecture, not opinion, but actual conclusive evidence that proves I am what you are saying about me to the degree of certainty that you felt it necessary to start spreading warnings about me publicly the way you have done, without ever questioning me about your "concerns". All of which, both you and I well know, are bare faced lies

When we are done with me, then you will be asked to provide evidence proving every claim and character assassination you have also directed at the many other researchers you have chosen to attack.

If you are prepared to stand in what you say I will give you the platform to prove your accusations and once you have done that we can move on to other topics. Think you can do that?

And there you go Arthur, the offer is on the table. Care to walk your talk and present all your conclusive evidence to the world? ...or do you choose back down and stand exposed as the bare faced liar and pied piper of psychobabble that you are?

Your choice

Yesterday at 14:50

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Max Igan

Oh and btw Arthur, any and all claims I have ever made about you are all in the above post and all the evidence required to prove them is your website, the main body of which consists of character assassination of others. So I don't really need to prove anything as you have already done a very adequate job of doing so yourself with 'Love For Life'. which really should be more appropriately be named 'Hatred-for-all-who-are-not-arthur-cristian', than anything at all that even vaguely resembles love... If lies truly are curses as you say Arthur then your words and website have ensured your soul will be cursed for eternity.

Yesterday at 13:19

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Max Igan

I wont be posting here again.. except maybe to say "I rest my case" if you refuse to walk your talk, so there is no real need to respond here. However if you believe you have now compiled enough of your delusional bullshit and fabrications to call me out, then I will welcome you to the show with open arms. All you have to do is send me a message and I will organise to have you on.... bye now

Yesterday at 13:25

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Blu Skys Intexas

Just one more thing and I AM out I see Arthur is saying a lot about court cases paperwork ect..U are playing in bablyon don't court cases paperwork ect keep ppl babbling on and on ur stuck in the system

Yesterday at 14:29

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Ricardo Almeida

just a question , about some of the stuff i've read ,, how can someone or something attack our character/name when all this info about name , mark of the beast , strawman etcc tells us its not really us it's all a show , a persona we take on.. isn't "our" character just acting out a play ? isn't that what a character is ....

Yesterday at 16:46

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Arthur Cristian

In response to this post put up by Jan Aloha late last night "Sydney time" which appears to have been taken down in this thread (was posted around 3.00am before going to bed), might have been posted in another thread....

Jan Aloha wrote:

after many many years on this planet
meeting a whole lot of people all over the world
one thing they all have in common
always when they talk about others
what they really do is talking about themselves
talking to themselves
when they say you, he or she . . . .
they actually say i

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We replied.........

Jan, this comment of yours is full of "buzz words". All you are doing here is trying to kidnap the living MAN, Hannah, Fiona, Arthur, Bruno, Ricardo, Jasmin, Xanthe, Emma, Frances and many others who live for this Kindom dream and re-present their thoughts, feelings and intentions = their REAL LIVES.

You are denying the originality and uniqueness of everyone involved and placing your story-telling of these buzz words over who they all really are.

Do you know these people?

Have you ever lived with them or had private dealings with them?

Where is the evidence of your direct experience with these men and women?

You are now claiming that you know their dreams and know their intentions. Is this true?

Do you practice black magic as in remote viewing, remote control and remote projection?

Are you psychic?

Do you have an all seeing eye?

The meanings you have made up about us come from you, not from us.

Do you comprehend that all your buzz words come from you, not from us and that you are lying and committing fraud.

You are doing exactly what those behind "The System" do to capture people under their image power and program them into a performance under their image.

Do we have to be how you think we should be?

Do we have to fit into your box?

The image power of these buzz words has you behave as a control freak with anyone who does not fit into your box swept under "buzz word" comments like yours.

Also, bring forward the first party Earth to back your claim that Earth is a planet. Let's here it directly from Earth, first party to first party, and not from a third party acting as an imposter of Earth. Can you arrange this for us? If you can't this is more evidence that you are lying and committing fraud.

You may have met a whole lot of people but you haven't met us so why are you trying to fit us in the same box as everyone else you have met?

You have committed slander because you are attacking the living MAN through your slander.

Are you conscious of what these buzz words are doing to you?

Is this what you are all about?

Don't you think you are using the wrong tools here?

Fiona Cristian, Hannah Wood, Arthur Cristian, Bruno Ferro, Ricardo A, and many many others of the Kindom dream we all live for.

Yesterday at 19:11

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Arthur Cristian

@ Blu Sky, we just pointed out all the storytelling of all the constructs/concepts you are performing as a 3rd party - there is no 1st party coming forward. We have not judged you, the living MAN, we just used scrutiny to expose the lies that have compromised the living MAN you really are (the evidence is in your writings) and which we live for. You are our living brother of the dream of Life. You are sacred as we all are sacred, hence why we expose all the lies to protect the sacredness of all of MAN. We dream/seek to do no harm to you, the living MAN. There has never been any intention to do harm to you. If you are detached from belief systems and therefore no longer e-motionally pulled by the programming of the belief system that is a lie, you might come to see/sense where we were really coming from when writing the last post to you.

Yesterday at 18:29

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Wade Libbis

Would love you n Max to get on air together Arthur....

Yesterday at 18:50

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Arthur Cristian

@ Bly Sky - come 2009 Fiona dropped the last of "name's" court cases and filing paper work etc. Even though Arthur was no longer contracting "name" for any commercial benefits, services, privileges, etc, 2009, he was exchanging letters with the State Debt Recovery Office until March 2011, then they gave up. Since March 2005 it has been a massive learning curve for us - we blatantly and willingly used our lives as Guinea pigs to get to the bottom of everything going on and work out what was lies and what was truth. Now we are clear and are moving ahead.

Fiona and others are still in "The System" - if they chose to come after Fiona, etc, we are now very clear what to do in their world and even though Arthur is NOT of their world ("The System" of "names") Arthur will be taking full-responsibility to make matters whole, one way or another.

Put it this way, any re-presentative of "The System" who dreams to have our tribe caught up in such actions/dreamings of theirs will be, of their "own" free-will, committing spiritual suicide to who they really are and to their families, their loved ones, their children, their associates, their benefactors, etc. Through clear intention/dreaming set into motion in present-sense, we make/force them to process the curses of their "own" making in present-sense and this intention is absolute, etc, there is NO doubt or uncertainty in our dreaming.

This "private" first party to first party process does not end until they make WHOLE with all those they harmed or sought to harm or they have killed themselves in whatever way they create their exit. We provide them the choice of eternal life or eternal death. Through first party to first party direct experience we use their free-will to experience the consequences/outcomes of their "own" dreaming/intentions. We do not create the curse - they do - we just use their "own" curses against themselves.

There already is a trail of wreckage involving at least 20 families in law and 17 pedophiles. Unexpectedly, we always cry and feel sadness when news comes to us of their undoing. This is something not to gloat about or celebrate - we sense the loss of our living brothers/sisters to the dark-side of MANS "own" making. There is nothing to advertise about this and we protect the privacy of those who remain at the effect of such loss. These matters are private between them and us BUT all were visited by Arthur and provided with FULL-DISCLOSURE of our intentions. Our articles, etc, posted this year (more to come) explains all this in greater detail.

Yesterday at 19:06

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Hank Lion

Arthur, will you do the show with Max?

22 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

Max. This is Fiona and Arthur writing. We are working on a reply, and it won't be short because we are giving a lot of attention to detail to all your posts and we are going to explain a lot to you. It is unlikely to be finished tonight but it will be done tomorrow, barring unexpected interruptions and posted. Fiona is going to bed very shortly.

20 hours ago

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Vicki Victoria

I'm gonna put my 2 cents worth in....what Max Igan said I found extremely interesting because Kate of Gaia is just like that description..he attacks people too: Heather Tucci Jarraff, Karen Hudes, Kevin Annett , the OPPT crowd, and let's not forget the whining native cunt, as he called her, that he has such a disliking to. He says they can come onto his show but they never accept the invitation...it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why. He storms off his radio show when people oppose his opinion or off other people's shows. He talks over people and he incites violence and has no remedy other than to 'have a bowl' or do DMT. He has said, "Don't read anybody else work. Just read mine'....fair dinkum. He calls people meat-sticks and that's derogatory and then he says he loves us....he is a schism. He says to tell the police that you are Phoenician...well that will help, won't it. Guests who were active have disappeared from the show...the ones fighting the banks and going to court. If a guest seems to be more knowledgeable than Kate then he either attacks or disassociates from them. What I've found with a lot of researchers, especially when they've commenced on their own path, is that they become isolated and are not up to date with the current research of others....oh well, looks like my 2 cents worth is suffering from inflation.

19 hours ago

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Blu Skys Intexas

I said from the being I/we/us were not of this world and ya did nothing but critized me I do not own anything in this world including the name but be my guest take ur name out of the system how much blood money dus this cost u (for the love of money)

19 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

"I did not get that from Kate I al ways known this I READ MI SCRIPT URS when I wuz about 6/7 befor any one could realy corrupt MI MIND Kate has gotten some information from me an knew exactly what I wuz saing when everyone else dismisses it an she says it al thye time listen wit ur eyes and see with ur ears as long as ppl stay in the literal (current state of mind) will not see/hear this It is as simple as Kate says lose the name and yet it will be the hardest thin for ppl to do until they know who they are and I got a lot of love for those ppl coz it is a narrow path and thin she says win the game WE AL MADE A CONTRACT WITH OUR CREATOR BEFOR COMMIN HERE TO PLAY THE GAME so get in the GAME SCRIPTURES say finesh ur first works ask ur wife what kinda of games did she and her friends play or the little nursery rymes when they were youngsters/yung stars Kate an I didn't leave anythin out this is something that man needs to leave out of his beleifs.I sent u and ur wife a post a few months ago about a SUMMONS and ask what u thot about what i rote on the back u rote back an told me that I first must get mi house in order I have no hard feelins towards any one but mi house is in order I HAVE BEEN READY TO GO HOME FOR A LONG TIME MI HOUSE IS HERE AND IT IS CALLED AQUARIUS everyone needs to pull it together because this is a WAR BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL and the grand prize is our soul"

18 hours ago

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Blu Skys Intexas

I know a cuple who paid 33,000 dollars to have their names removed from system they haf no lic inspection tag (common law) got pulled over the cop said he pulled them over for no inspection sticker and started askin for ID my bro said don't need one to travel ect the cop ask him for his NAME as soon as the NAME wuz givin the game wuz on my bro ther said the cop grabed the car door slung it open trying to force him out of the car but he did not get out but got severl tickits.Now tell me if the NAME is out of the system why are these people haven to go fill out more paperwork go to court and pay fines?no remedy in that just more money blood money

18 hours ago

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Blu Skys Intexas

I listen to Katre be caws she knows who she is

17 hours ago

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Max Igan

I am not interested and will not have you harvest my energy by reading one of your vacuous, mind numbing NLP diatribes Arthur, a simple yes or no will suffice... either you are prepared to walk your talk and come on air to present evidence of your false accusations against me, or you are not.... that is all I will bother reading a yes, or a no.

11 hrs

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Arthur Cristian

Max - of course we will come on your show if you and your listeners would like us to BUT you need to know that we will be working off the material we are presenting to you here so you might want to make sure you fully comprehend it before you have us on air. We are providing you with FULL-DISCLOSURE as to the psyop programs that you are performing and working with. This is Fiona and Arthur writing and due to circumstances, we have not finished yet but we will notify you as soon as it is posted, and we will PM you a copy, if that function is available.

1 hr

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Michael Amirault

This is interesting, please let me know when the show is and will there be a talk back/question and answer part for listeners?

1 hr

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Arthur Cristian

@ Blu Skys Intexas - Not using the "name" means no credit card, bank account, medicare, social benefits, drivers license, car registration, electricity, gas, telephone, mobile/cell phone, internet, council/govt/private-corp services for water, land, lease, mortgage, etc, no vin numbers or trademarks/brand-names/model numbers, etc, on horseless chariots (cars, bikes, trucks, vans, etc), no using tax file number, social security number, marriage certificate, birth certificate, etc, etc --- NOTHING - Then there is no trauma based "name" conduit for re-presentatives of the beast to exhaust your life-force-energy.

But there is more to this, it doesn't end there..............

As you are no longer of their world but still in their world you are not answerable to them SO YOU DO NOT TALK TO THEM - YOU COMPLETELY IGNORE THEIR DEMANDS ETC FOR "NAME" ID and if they end up bashing you up you still remain silent because they are not your master, etc. If you answer to their ID demands you are complying and acquiescing to them.

If they steal the horseless chariot you remain silent - your are not going to be like them, act like them, behave like them, think and e-motional behave like them, etc, etc...., MEANING YOU DO NOT REACT TO TRAUMA NO MATTER WHAT.

You remain peaceful, forgiving, kind, generous, compassionate, empathetic, nurturing, supportive, etc, etc, because this is who you really are, remember you are not of their "world" ("The System") anymore.

"The System" is trauma based and everything of "The System" is reaction to trauma = the pull of e----motion = anger, rage, violence, screaming, hatred, denial, apathy, loneliness, emptiness, depression, directionless, distrustful, doubtful, uncertain, greed, selfishness, self-centeredness, e---go-less, jealous, envy, covertness, power and control trips, fantasy, illusion, delusion, lost in make-believe, etc, etc, etc, etc......

All the virtues of love set into motion in full array are not of "The System", because in present-sense they are the true living consciousness of the living MAN you really are set into motion, meaning you are not a victim. ONLY SLAVES ARE VICTIMS. ONLY SLAVES ARE TRAPPED REACTING TO E----MOTION (E = Ecclesiastical - MOTION = motions/programs/instructions/uploads/performance/etc, for slaves, robots, drones).

So while you ignore whatever ID of "name" they are demanding of you instead offer them some organic food or liquids to eat, offer them something of the virtues of love/life with them because this is who you really are, what you co-create, is everything of what you are about.

You cannot control what they do but you can control what you do.

As for paying $33,000 to be removed from "The System, this is total insanity. If you decide to stop using the "name" you just stop using it. That's it. Nothing else. Just DROP it. This is what Arthur has done. He is not answerable to anyone so he doesn't have to contact ANYONE of "The System" to tell them what he is going to do or ask them if he can do what he wants to do or talk to them in ANYWAY.

Your brother stuffed up BIG-TIME.

He paid them to maintain his/her/their slave status. And that is exactly what he got - he ordered it.

Imagine if we said you needed to go and ask your neighbour for permission to mow your lawn. You would say we were crazy and that you did not have to ask anyone when you could mow your lawn and the neighbour is not anyone you have to ask to do anything, unless it is something that involves both of your properties. This shows you how deep "The System" brainwashing goes - we know full well that we don't have to ask the neighbour's permission to do things and yet we still go, cap in hand, to the authorities all the while kidding ourselves that we are getting our freedom!!!!

Your brother was well and truly "lost in space" - he set his "person" up to be ripped off and he must take FULL-RESPONSIBILITY for not using his SENSES as he was doing his homework because he would have sensed/realised that the whole idea of buying your freedom has nothing to do with freedom and everything to do with a system of slavery.

The moment you write to or phone anyone in "The System", you are already admitting that you are their slave and that they have "higher standing" over you and that they are your master, your authority, and that you are their slave.

Why else would you be writing to them?

Or ringing them?

Anyone who is a citizen is a slave as is anyone who is a person, or part of society, or public. They are all of the "name".

AND, if you are addressing the "name" of any construct of "The System", you are acknowledging them and their power over you TOO!!!!!

Everything you have described here is trauma based but you are in denial of it. Does Kate teach you all this? Does he show the consequences of these sorts of actions? Everything about Kate is trauma based and he is encouraging you to remain bonded with your trauma and therefore bonded with "The System".

Kate has no effect on anyone who doesn't have the same aggression that he does. People who are sorted out and know how to be peaceful and calm walk past Kate because he has nothing to offer them.

What we do is make them process the curses of their own making. We have written a lot about this. The info is found in many of our posts. Below are two examples.

We prefer to co-create a tribe around us and us around them than leaving the body exposed to "system" drones who do not sense the living amongst them and are e-motionally programmed to do harm. You have to be very clear and clean in body, brain, heart, senses, etc, so that you are always using your wits and your senses to navigate past all the "minefields of deep-seated e-motional reactions (traps). It may happen down-the-line but so far they have not gotten to Arthur's body to damage it.

Processing Curses
A Lie Is A Curse
Liars Process Curses
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
26th February 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8503

30 mins

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Arthur Cristian

How The System Is Really Constructed
Bouncing Back Curses Upon Curse Makers
To Stop Harm Forevermore
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
27th February 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8504

35 mins

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Arthur Cristian

Interview with Peace Pilgrim
From David Weissbard's show "FUSION" on WIFR in 1981. This is said to be Peace Pilgrim's final televised talk.

33 mins

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Arthur Cristian

Peace Pilgrim: An American Sage Who Walked Her Talk (1 hr documentary)
This is a powerful documentary about an extraordinary woman. At age 44, Mildred......

32 mins

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Max Igan

Arthur if you have actual evidence to back up one single accusation you have made against me you could sum it up in one sentence or one short paragraph. And as I said I will not subject myself to one of yourself self-absorbed misinformation NLP diatrib...

25 mins

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Arthur Cristian

Max, Psyop Programs are not freely available instruction manuals. The INTEL world operate in "stealth and secrecy" - they do not provide full-disclosure of their intentions and tactics and the outcomes of following the image-power of their psyop programs. This is all about DARKNESS INVISIBLE - so we remedy this to bring it all out into the open for all to see in PLAIN SIGHT = DARKNESS VISIBLE.

Also note, Max, that you are full of conditions that we have to meet for you to be able to talk to us. We do not do this to you because we stand for freedom of speech and expression and we are not afraid of open discussion. You know who we are, Max and as we always give full disclosure, you know what to expect. So why the conditions? Why the hurdles?

24 mins

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Max Igan

the only hurdle you have to overcome Arthur is your own delusional self, So Put up or fuck off and I will do as I said and we can sort it out in the old fashioned way because frankly Im over your lies and the shit you are spreading and its about time we sorted this out like men. And I've never hit anyone in my life, no one has ever got me that riled, but there comes a time when one must draw a line in the sand and make a stand for truth so congratz brother looks like you have brought me to a new level of low... but then, I hear that about you from many people

19 mins

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Michael Amirault

“You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”

― Richard Buckminster Fuller

I think awareness is primary in this. "If we do not fully comprehend what has been done to us AND how the brainwashing tactics that keep us in "The System" work and have us fall for the "we will lead every revolution against us" shepherds, we will never escape "The System", be it this version or the next."

There is truth in this. Escaping an "idea" is as easy as having awareness that is what is programing is in you. If finding "remedy" is so confusing and complicated that the ordinary person can't understand it, it is not much use. That being said we are the ones who wish to find end the unjust and cruel acts of the current system. How can we do this if we don't see how cruel and unjust we are?

If you want to spend the show focusing on personal attacks and then all that energy that could of been used to find the common ideas and wisdom to create a better system would be lost... We are like children arguing who spilled broken glass in the sandbox instead of using the tools we already have to sift the glass out of of it. Yet not seeing if that task is to difficult to build another sandbox/ or find one and move to it.

Ask yourself this question... does it really matter who said what about who when your standing in a burning house? Do you smell smoke? Do you see flames... What do you both do? Leave? Can you find the common sense and do what needs to be done? Can you simple find agreement on any level? Or are we 4 blind men feeling an elephant convinced we have the one and only solution? I tell you I don't, and it is why I keep and open mind and l examine what you both write and discuss. We all want a better world for our children and ourselves. It's time we all park our egos and have some awareness of the good in all our works.... I'm not perfect and I have never met anyone who is... If we truly want a better world (not a perfect world because that is impossible), we must behave like it.

“People have this belief that what we believe is the effect of the facts that we’re exposed to, and therefore, if we expose people to different and newer facts, they will change their beliefs. This is not true. […]

The contents of people’s minds, the belief systems that they hold, are in no way, shape or form a result of any objective evaluation of information. The prejudices are inherited. They are socially inflicted. They are propagandized in school, in church, in communities, in families. They are reinforced by endless bouts of patriotic media and other sorts of nonsense. People are just an emotional Gordian knot, kaleidoscopic clusterfrack of prior prejudices [which have been] stuffed into their heads and held aloft by the spears of social approval or ostracism. Everybody is prejudiced, almost, and everybody maintains those prejudices for fear of social attack, ostracism, or disapproval.

Because people haven’t been reasoned into their beliefs, they can’t be reasoned out of their beliefs, [and] when people have existing prejudices, showing them facts that run counter to those prejudices does not dislodge them. In fact, statistically, it is more likely to make those prejudices stronger.”
― Stefan Molyneux

and

“To see the farm is to leave it.”

― Stefan Molyneux, The Handbook of Human Ownership: A Manual for New Tax Farmers

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Arthur Cristian

This is Fiona writing here too Max - are you going to bash me too?

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Max Igan

no Fiona Im not going to "bash" anyone, and for you to even use the word it would appear that you have chosen to respond in a typically delusional cristian manner. ...but the point is this. Arthur Cristian has publicly spread lies and disinformation about me in a very brutal, underhanded, sociopathic and dishonest fashion. He has continued to do so now for a number years and his most recent attacks have served as the proverbial straw that broke the camels back. So the line has been drawn and arthur has repeatedly chosen to cross that line and so Im going to come and see him and he can either 1, show his proof of my corruption or 2 receive a smack in the face, 1 because he deserves it and 2 because after all the shit he has put me through, it would feel damn fucking good to give him one.

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Max Igan

and yes, I am quite happy to post it here for all the world to see. I after all am human too... but then Arthur doesn't have anything to worry about does he Fiona? Because surely he has evidence to back up his claims and didnt fabricate it all did he? ... so there you see? Im being fair after all and Im sure that you are as confident as he that when I arrive he will have all the proof we require right there waiting for me right?

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Michael Amirault

and so it goes... so sad...

28 May at 20:26

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Amper Lux

o k

28 May at 20:48

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Naturr Boii

A man who feels the need to solve self fulfilled problems with violence and callus name calling, is no man at all.

29 May at 00:04

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Max Igan

well Naturr, Arthur Cristian is a toxic hatemonger, a liar and a black magician of the most insidious kind and I have suffered the emotional, mental and spiritual violence directed at me by Arthur Cristian for almost 3 years now, and I've finally had enough. I have asked him repeatedly to remove the lies and disinformation he has posted about me from his website but he not only refuses to do so, but has also resorted to trolling friends of mines' threads and spreading lies about me there too. Well, so be it, sometime one must simply embrace the divine masculine and do what needs to be done. So I am going to embrace my divinity and I'm going to say here very publicly: Arthur Cristian, You have one week to remove every lie and every reference you have made to me from your toxic website and also to remove the links you have to my films. If you do not do so then I am going to come to Bowral to see you and you and I are going to sort things out the way men do. That's right, Naturr. Im going to drive to Bowral, and I am going to confront my accuser, this toxic little liar and attention whore who has chosen to sully my name and defame my good character, I will stand face to face with this toxic black hearted little sociopath and I will stand in my truth. Lets see if Arthur Cristian has enough conviction in his lies to stand in his....as I said, I have suffered Arthur cristian's emotional violence for almost 3 years now so man or not I will now speak to him in the only language it seems he can understand.... and Naturr, no offence meant, but... what on earth is a "self fulfilled problem"???

29 May at 21:44

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Stanley North

Max Igan

...Ask Arthur what the late Archbishop Makarios would think of his actions against you lololol

29 May at 20:51

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Naturr Boii

Delusions brother. Have sat back and read the discussions Arthur and Fiona have had with you the last few years, non of these claims you make are true by me. Perhaps the cristian family emails you and sends you messages of hate behind all our eyes, but sure don't see anything in any regards to what you have said in the discussions read.

If you would actually read some of the things the family speak of.....and yes an assumption is made that you don't read anything, merely on how you speak with them.
Max, think you can answer that question on your own. We all create the world we sense. If you sense a problem, it is likely your own creation.

Why don't you consider going to visit on friendly terms, and see where that takes you instead. Sense the family, before you go in smashing.

30 May at 03:10

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Max Igan

The character assassinations, disinformation and lies Arthur Cristian posts about virtually anyone who is not Arthur Cristian, indicate Arthur has no wish to be friends. I will visit friends on friendly terms, I will visit hatemongering liars with other intentions. ... And besides, Naturr, Arthur has no interest in being friends, had he been interested in being friends, he wouldn't have started spreading lies hatred, disinformation, and making false accusations about me to begin with.

30 May at 05:46

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Denizen Ape

I haven't read the whole story here and I am not privy to all of what may have passed between the two of you, but I do find it interesting that in the middle of being angry regarding alleged character assassination, you call him a black magician and essentially a Vatican agent. What proof do you have of this? My experience with them has been completely different and you are the one coming out with anger and proposing violence. I've enjoyed many of your audios Max, however, I haven't heard anything lately.

One point that I know Arthur makes, is that very few speak of real remedy and that just dropping the legal name is not enough. Perhaps the two of you could do an audio together on true remedy. Grouping together, growing food, taking back the land and then dropping the legal name. Just my two cents.

30 May at 06:55

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Naturr Boii

Some of my closest friends/family where those who trusted me enough to call them on their bullshit, with out letting there ego get in the way and kick and scream like a spoiled child....And vice versa.

Took me a while to humble the part of thought that was taught to be 'right' all the time.
As a righter mind is an ignorant mind, and the best lessons ever learnt, where often those learnt from trying to fathom the things thought 'wrong'.
Egos are toxic

30 May at 07:42

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Max Igan

Denizen, I called him a black magician due to the NLP he uses and spells he attempts to weave in his posts ...and re read if you believe I called him a Vatican agent, because I didn't. I called him Vatican programmed because his constant references to Satanism are due to heavy religious/Vatican programming... the fact that you would use that observation to accuse me of naming him as a "vatican agent" shows just how willing people are to construct fictional scenarios. I thank you for the illustration.

30 May at 13:33

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Max Igan

And as for doing an audio with him. Well, my experience has shown him to be very toxic individual, so I don't really feel we would have much to talk about.

30 May at 13:36

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Denizen Ape

Thanks for the reply Max. What is NLP if you don't mind? I'm also very curious if you could point to any specific spells he has woven in a specific post? I would find that most interesting and helpful. I don't believe that you directly called him a Vatican agent. Are you suggesting then that he is unwittingly programmed by the Vatican? How would one become Vatican programmed without their knowledge? I had assumed you meant he was knowingly programmed by the Vatican, which didn't then seem like such a stretch to assume the word 'agent' would be appropriate. I also used the word 'essentially', which I feel takes it a step back from 'accusing' you.

How do you know his constant references to Satanism are due to such programming? I would be most interested if you could elaborate on this and provide some direct evidence to back your claims.

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Denizen Ape

Max, in regards to your second comment, would not discussing a remedy be quite a lot to talk about? Perhaps you could talk about the remedy that he proposes and offer your opinion on that? Perhaps you both could agree on a mediator or a pre-arranged debate on the subject of remedy. You both have a very wide audience and I sincerely believe that you could reach a lot of ears. The subject of remedy is so important for all the obvious reasons. Thanks Max!

30 May at 14:41

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Stubborn Bull

I found this very interesting, I believe I have found remedy myself, but it does requires intelligence. Which we all know a lot of people are lacking that vital ingredient

30 May at 14:48

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Stubborn Bull

Denizen NLP means Neuro-linguistic programming

30 May at 14:54

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Max Igan

Look the bottom line is this Denizen. Arthur Cristian has no remedy. Arthur Cristian has defamed so many people its ridiculous. And he has defamed me endlessly for no reason whatsoever and without a shred of evidence and all because he is a gutless heartless self motivated attention whore. He is a lying little maggot who needs to be taught a lesson in manners. And if any of you think that anything I have said to the toxic little prick here on this thread constitutes a threat, well it doesn't. The fact of the matter that yes, I am a very calm and rational person but yes, I am also human and Arhur Cristian has at last pushed me to far and so this is not a threat, its simply a lesson in manners, respect and decency... a threat is more like the death threats I get from deranged lunatics on a weekly basis because they think I'm a government agent because lying assholes like Arthur cristian make the conscious choice to spread rumours that I am... or the death threats I get from people who think I am some Greenberg wearing a mask because dallasgoldbug says I am... These people sit there and they attack others with absolutely not a shred of thought or concern for the damage they cause... these feebleminded sociopathic, self absorbed, fucking rodents like Arthur Cristian who sit behind their keyboards tapping out false accusations, rumours and hatred about people they have never met are the most toxic form of vermin the internet has ever produced and frankly, Im just totally over his bullshit, hatred and divisionism. So, if he has so much conviction in his own lies that he going to ruin the lives of others, then fuck the little prick, he can walk his talk and speak his lies to my face. ... after we have cleared all that up, sure, if he has managed to grow some decency, Im happy to discuss his "remedy"

30 May at 17:04

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Naturr Boii

Interesting to think, loooong ago, it was Arthur AND Fiona, asking you to back your claims, to which you never did.
Starting to realize why they think you are intel, but from this mans perspective think you just suffer from an irrational ego. But hey, this is the internet, sense isn't exactly easy to discover in this pigsty.

Was actually the conversations you would have with Arthur and Fiona about 3 years ago, that inspired me to read more of what remedies they spoke of. Lol, used to think they were bat shit crazy too!!

But yes, there is a remedy, with many sound and rational ideas for which they hope people would read, challenge, and scrutinize so that we can all take part in creating a remedy.

Fighting the system with another system, or fighting at all will continue the cycle of slavery and is exactly what the system needs to stay alive....All they have ever pointed out to you, is that you are leading people into supporting more destructive system beliefs, which create more system supporting slaves......Which CONTINUE to destroy the world.

30 May at 23:18

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Max Igan

Arthur has never attempted to point anything out to me, all he has done is spread disinformation and lies about me, when he stops doing that I may consider listening to what he has to say but up to this point his methodology has been to lie and make false accusations.

30 May at 23:38

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Naturr Boii

Purposely ignorant. Another good example of someone covering bullshit.
Arthur AND Fiona, constantly try to point things out to you, it seems you just refuse to listen because it doesn't conform to your beliefs.
Nothing further to say, wish you well Max Igain

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Denizen Ape

Max. You say Arthur has no remedy. Personally, this is not the conclusion I reach from reading many of his posts and listening to many of his audios. Would you be able to clarify your position on the remedy that Arthur proposes, namely self-sufficient communities/households meeting basic needs to create a support base from which to remove contractual relations with the System and cease using a legal name.

Are you stating that individuals coming together to grow food and to support each other in meeting basic needs of water, food and shelter is not a remedy to life in the System? Do you think that such a community would be able to effectively take land out of the System by standing strong and supporting each other in the effort? What remedy are you proposing? What actions do you propose individuals undertake?

I can understand that you have no time for my questions or don't wish to make time, but can you see that by not answering my questions you exhibit the same behaviour that you are accosting Arthur for? You claim he is a black magician that weaves spells in his posts yet you don't point out a single spell that we can look at and discuss. Please point one out for us. This would clarify much of what you say. Also, if you wish for others here in this anonymous world to have an understanding of your anger, could you please post what he has said to you that you call lies and false accusations. Don't you think this would go a long way to back your claims and help us to see your point? It is what you are asking him to do is it not? Clear things up via full disclosure.

I have no idea what he may have said to you to make you use such strong language towards him, but I shall tell you that to me it makes you look very bitter and foul. You say he has 'tapped out false accusations'. I would invite you a second time to point out a spell in one of his posts to back up your accusation and so we can view it and discuss it.

I am also waiting to hear if you think Arthur is unwittingly programmed by the Vatican. You have claimed 'Vatican programming' yet you don't clarify this? If he is unwittingly programmed, then we can help him. If he is knowingly programmed, then this is quite the claim you are making and could lead to threats to him don't you think? Please can you point out an example of his programming so we can view it and discuss.

You talk of lessons in decency and respect yet you call him, 'feebleminded, self-absorbed, rodent' etc. Personally, this is very confusing and is certainly not the kind of manners I would ever propose. I have not received threats myself so I really can't speak to the kind of reaction I might have but I just wanted to point out the strange contrasts you put forth.

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Denizen Ape

Max. You say Arthur has spread disinformation and lies about you. I'm not saying he hasn't as I am not in a position to say either way. Would you be able to post these lies and this disinformation so that we can all scrutinize it and see what you are claiming? Thanks Max.

31 May at 03:54

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Denizen Ape

How do people posting put spaces between their paragraphs. When I hit enter it just posts the whole thing. I would like to make things more readable. Thanks.

31 May at 03:54

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Max Igan

he has claimed I'm intel running a psyop on this very thread Denizen, he does it almost every time he mentions me, just check any of his posts or any of the "articles" he has posted about me. But anyway, I'm over it. As I said, he can do one of two things, he can remove every reference he has to me from his toxic website, and we can go our separate ways and be done with each other, or he can leave it all there and continue to bad mouth me in which case he can expect a visit from me so he can speak his lies to my face and things will go where they will. I've said my piece and the way things go from here is his choice entirely. Goodbye now, I have far more important things to do.

31 May at 18:39

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Max Igan

my last post for this thread... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnGeuvQJdXw
Reality is a Double Edged Sword
Max Igan - Surviving the Matrix - Season 2 - Episode 8 http://thecrowhouse.com/ ...

31 May at 20:12

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Sandra Cairns

Fun Boy Three - The Lunatics (have taken over the Asylum)
LIVE (umm, yeah, whateverrrrr! LOL! ;p) in TOTP I love how Terry Hall looks so cute in this video!

31 May at 20:19

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Vicki Victoria

That is not a choice Max...that is dominance and a threat. Why are you bothering to control another man? You are attempting to control another man's life's actions and also his mind. What does it matter what he says about you? Your reaction is by far more damaging than his comments about you. You are promoting physical violence with your antagonistic approach. Why? He must be over the target or something? For goodness sake pull yourself together. If his comments about you are incorrect it shouldn't matter to you. Who cares. So what. You have many followers of which some may be incited into violence because they put you on a pedestal and everybody is losing the plot. If this man or his family are hurt because of your posts and your latest radio broadcast it will be your fault 100%. Thanks a lot Max....this is really helping the situation. Bloody Nora......

31 May at 22:05

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Max Igan

over the target vicki? ok, well understand something, and be very clear about it... my family, my son and my life are hurt by the death threats I receive due to the disinformation and lies posted by Arthur cristian so fuck Arthur cristian, fuck his disinformation and the threat his disinformation poses to my well being and the well being of my family... and I'm not promoting physical violence, what I'm proposing is Arhur Cristian walking his talk and speaking his lies to my face, what Im proposing is a reasonable response to the false accusations, and emotional violence I have been subject to from arthur cristian and reasonable response to the threats of physical violence I receive due to lying maggots like Arthur cristian spreading disinformation and unfounded rumours about me... have a nice day

31 May at 22:25

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Vicki Victoria

You are making matters worse. You are not being reasonable at all. Again you are inciting violence by saying fuck him....he has a family too just like you. No. In this circumstance you are wrong. You are not an ordinary man. You are a man that many people follow and admire and you are abusing your position by inciting negative feelings towards another man. You are not autonomous. This is the path you have chosen albeit reluctantly...I know you have had trouble embracing your position. But for goodness sake remember who you are and that people are influenced by your words. People are traumatized and want to lash out. You are in a position to deal with this conflict of opinions in a manner which creates a positive outcome. Maybe the two of you can compare notes about the death threats to you and your families....you both have probably been targeted by the same crowd.

31 May at 22:48

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Vicki Victoria

BTW: Maggot is not a good choice of insult words. They are great little critters that clean up dead shit and clear up gangrene in living tissue. They only eat necrotic flesh. They don't touch living tissue. Maggots are used to save lives. But I know where you are coming from. They are a little revolting. I think it's the environment that they are in that makes us feel revolted.

31 May at 22:58

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Arthur Cristian

Max, we finished our reply to you and it's all posted here in this thread:

Routing Out Psyop Programs Routs Out Intel Operatives + Exposing Max Igan's Psyop Program - Arthur & Fiona Cristian - 31st May 2014 http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8524

Will copy it all below.

1 June at 02:10

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Arthur Cristian

Have just re-read one of your posts Max and we note with interest that apparently Mark McMurtrie came to visit us and hear our accusations face to face and Arthur ran off with his tail between his legs and never went after Mark again. Where did you get this info. from? We had a phone call with Mark who said he would call in and visit. We said he was welcome. He never came. This was posted on the website years ago and we have had many debates with him since and have continued to call him out as INTEL. You need to check your sources Max because right now you are sounding like News of the World. See the posts below for what was happening at the time and that Mark never showed up. Check the comments sections too, because there is relevant stuff there as well.

In Fighting Keeps Us Fighting
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
A Reply To Deb Regarding Mark McMurtrie
Love For Life - 13th May 2010
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7315

[Ab]originals Denied Self-Determination
An Invitation To Brave Souls
To Co-Create Community With
Clan On Traditional Land
Love For Life - 30th September 2010
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7469

A Facebook Discussion About OPPT
Involving Arthur & Fiona Cristian,
Chris Mansergh & Mark McMurtrie
Love For Life - 8th March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8452

Address The Work

It is also interesting to note that your long post all about Arthur never once talks about the Love For Life work and where you can see problems with it, or where you think we are on the wrong track, and what you like about it and where you think it could be improved. NO MENTION whatsoever. So what do we conclude from this, especially as you have never addressed our work, only made stabs at Arthur, always leaving Fiona out of the picture, even though she is heavily involved and is writing this. Do we conclude that you cannot find fault with our work, the insights and remedy, but cannot be seen to be agreeing with it either so having a go is your only option? Or have you never read it so you do not have an opinion of it and so can only make stabs at Arthur in an attempt to turn people away from the work you know nothing about? Or do you not want to address our work,not bring attention to it, because it exposes psyop programs such as yours and if you address this, you have nowhere to go with your work except to take it all down and give everyone full disclosure as to the fact that your work was actually only leading them to continued enslavement.

Back Your Claims

We continually catch you out with the claims you make against us, Max, but you never clean up your act, just avoid it and carry on until the next opportunity to do it again. We notice that you always come in performing as a third party, never as first party, never with direct experience but with "all the answers" acting as a man with "standing" and "authority" on the subject. Vatican programming, eh? Can you prove that? Can you show us in the work, with clear examples of our writing, how the Vatican programming is operating and bring forward the written testimonials of victims who have been hurt by our work? And can you provide us with evidence as to when the Vatican programming occurred? And by whom? And how? And for how long? Do you even know what Vatican programming is or is it just one of those freedom/truther buzz words? And if it is a program, which version is it? Which update?

Can you give us evidence of Arthur's Vatican programming from our work? Can you show us and others what it is in our work that gives you evidence to back your claims? Please deconstruct it and show us how it applies. This is what we do with you Max; we point out where in your work you are leading people down the garden path, how you are doing it and the consequences of this. Our work is all about getting MAN back to being free on the land, taking full responsibility for his/her life and not having a system to answer to, of any sort, no OPPT, no Ubuntu, no Thrive, no "name"and not under our image power or the image power of anyone else. Can you show us the evidence of Vatican programming in this? How does this aim benefit the Vatican, which will be no more when we are free as MAN on the land? Can you answer these questions, Max?

We continue to expose the psyop programs running in your work with evidence and examples of your words and techniques. You don't/can't do this with our work. Why not? Can't you find fault in it? All you have is attacks on the MAN because you don't want to address the work.

Remember, we are not attacking Max , the MAN. We are attacking the psyop program that you are peddling. Just as when we address the brainwashing belief system of a man who claims to be a Christian, we are addressing the brainwashing that is running you. To help someone overcome their brainwashing, you have to help them comprehend the program and see the harm in it without hurting the MAN. Unfortunately, many people operating out of belief systems think that this is part of who they really are. We know that the NWO will come in on the back of "Good Guy" INTEL operatives peddling belief systems with no remedy, off the back of the reaction to trauma caused by the "Bad Guys" who all work for the same Grand Plan, that being the continuation of the enslavement of MAN to their systems.

We deconstruct the psyop programs running in your work and the work of Mark Darwin, made plain for all to see. We gave you the link and left you with a simple question to answer. See copy of post below. And you can't answer just yes or no. Why is that?

Is it because, if you answer yes, you have to completely change tack, take down all your work as being misleading and make an apology for having misled people all these years. Then you have to stop doing things the way you are doing them and start operating as a MAN of truth who leaves no stone unturned and will always go where the truth takes him, even if that means reading long posts by Arthur and Fiona. You have a background in exposing the harm of the "conspiracies" of "The System" and yet you cannot see the harm in your work where it is pointed out to you.

The many people who contact us and thank us for exposing the harm that we see, have often come through you, as well as David Icke, Jordan Maxwell and all the big "name" players of the freedom/truth movement. They are often in disbelief at how clever the pysop programs are and this is why we point out that the greatest lies and liars are the ones closest to the truth because they cause the greatest harm of all. Truth is pure white without any black or grey spots in it whatsoever.

How far are you prepared to go with this, Max? We have routed out plenty of harm from the early years of our work and will continue to do so if we find any more. Are you prepared to do this with your work? Are you prepared to go where the truth takes you?

More and more people are starting to rout out the grey now to get back to the pure, sincere, uncorrupted white, the true path of no harm which we will not compromise and which is no system and full responsibility, no passing the buck. Don't you live for this? If you do, why are you packaging our work as Vatican programming when you can see that the end result is Kindom, as clearly explained in our work in great detail, over and over again. If Vatican programming is no system, no education, no image power and returning to Kindoms where nature brings up our children and everyone has their unique dreams and thoughts, then Vatican programming is what we are peddling. LOLLLLLL

If you say no to the question we posed you and Mark Darwin, you are going to end up in the same spot as you are now because we will keep challenging you until you can back your claims with first party evidence. As we keep saying, we would welcome the opportunity to show you where in your work you are committing fraud and you can show us where you find fault in our work. Why don't you bring Mark McMurtrie, Kate of Gaia, Mark Darwin, Mark Pytellek and anyone else you want along too. It is not about getting on the Max Igan Radio Show because frankly we don't care whether you have us on your show or not. Why not do it independently on neutral ground, film it live for all to see?

If you are interested in "open discussion" why not have us on the radio show anyway. All your conditions have given you the perfect back door to never have us on the radio show because you can continue to protest that we haven't met your conditions, even though we are blue in the face from doing so!!!! This is more cat and mouse. If you want to have us on your radio show because you like to give all views a chance and are not afraid of open discussion going where the truth takes us, great. If you want us to fit into your boxes and perform to your conditions, we are not interested. Why don't you ask your listeners if they would like to have us on?

Or do as you put up in a post; take a drive down here and have a chat face to face. We have nothing to hide and nothing to be afraid of. You are welcome to visit and we will feed you good food and give you a place to sleep and treat the MAN with respect but we will not sit and nod our heads if we do not agree with what you say. We don't hate anybody and you are our brother, which is why we ignore your aggression, your name-calling and attempts to control how others think about us and our work. This is all just trauma, Max, controlled opposition, and what keeps us all apart.

Until we see you face to face, let us explain again the importance of comprehending the difference between third party information and first party information.

The Conflict Of First Party And Third Party

We will go into this so that it is fully explained and we can show you how you create conflict. We are showing you first party evidence of your complicity with third party tactics and what we do is show people how this works so that they learn to recognise when they are being smooth talked by system shepherds/shills and when conflict is being created that makes them unsure and puts doubt into their thoughts so that they feel helpless and powerless and need someone else to tell them what to do and how to think, feel and act, leading them down the Yellow Brick Road to the Land of Oz where they and all their ancestors have been for many generations, trapped in "The System", under the traumatic spells of the psyop programs.

You refer to Arthur as a "spell master". Well, we know a fair amount about the codes of the English language, the phonetics, etymology and cryptography, and we have learned how the psyop programs derived from these constructs (image power) are used as man-made demons (thought forms/non-sensory make believe images) to compel MAN to perform the e-motion of the makers intention. This is all about trauma and reaction to that trauma, which is the spell. The demon is actually the trauma, no different to the software program that controls the performance of the robot.

Over the years, we have made it very clear that we do not "spell" and we are not "spellers" because we don't write in third party to re-present a first party because this is then a psyop program of the "spell" set into motion by the victims who are never provided with full disclosure of the deceit. If we did do this, it would be clear evidence of fraud and lying in plain sight, which would then beggar the question as to our motives. You won't find this in our work but we see this deception all through your work and the work of Kate, Mark Darwin, etc. All of it is blatant "spelling" = psyop programs = hypnosis/hypnotic suggestions = a drone's program set into motion.

We don't have another language to communicate apart from the English language but we work very hard to let people know that the English language is a fraud and a deceiver and to let our writing show the intention behind what we write. The English language is a third party in itself because it has been put into our heads by other men and women, all third parties. People who have lies in their thinking and their beliefs cannot help those lies creeping through in their words, sentences and paragraphs because they are relying on falsehoods here, whether innocently or not, and so these is what are set into motion through their writing.

While we are stuck with this language, we have to use our senses to sense the intention of the writer behind the words. This is why we go to so much trouble to write in a way that makes our intentions as clear as possible, and why we get such a huge response from people who are waking up to the third party "spelling".

Just look at the post you have written about Arthur. It is all third party information of your dreaming that has nothing to do with reality. Anyone who came and had a first party experience with us would find it very hard to relate the Arthur they met and talked to with the version of Arthur in your third party re-presentation of Arthur. Are you not trying to put doubts about Arthur and the work we do into peoples heads without any evidence or examples to back your claims? Is this not your intention?

This is what the NWO INTEL operation is all about. Previously the programs put the "fear of God" into people but, with the downturn of "spelling" religion, other ways to create doubt, fear, uncertainty and distrust are in operation because if this e-motional conflict exists in their thinking and dreaming, they are easily manipulated because they are not fully conscious and do not see the harm in creating their lives out of this kind of thinking. There are plenty of e-motional blind spots for the INTEL operatives to slip in behind the black curtains of the e-motion and mislead people through stealth.

If you train a horse through harsh, painful methods, the horse is always under the power of the fear that you have created in the horse. In the same way, if people are manipulated into fear and trauma, they are always under the pull of that e-motion which acts as a form of domination. This is why we say beware of those who peddle aggression and violence the way Kate does, and what you have done in threatening to come down "do it the old fashioned way, man to man". You are threatening physical violence, which is never the answer to anything. Or were you suggesting having a hug and a laugh?

Imposing Your Image Power

Max, we expose DARKNESS VISIBLE. Let's delve a little deeper into your use of third party constructs.....

Let's start here - Use SENSE (1st party) and NOT NON-SENSE (3rd party).

The idea of freedom is third party (non-sense). You were pushing OPPT, Ron Paul, Universe, Planet, etc, etc, which is all about 3rd party, not first party. There is no direct experience. Any remedy or dealings in law is also third party. We got caught up in the law stuff too, but we dropped it when we realised that you can't force someone under another's image power, which you have to do when teaching people about legal "remedy", etc.

A child brought up on nature never thinks of the "idea" of freedom because he/she already is free. He/she does not have "not free" in his/her consciousness so freedom is never an idea not in his/her life. For them to comprehend the construct that is the idea of freedom, they have to be already enslaved, already a victim of system brainwashing.

The whole of "The System" is about forcing men and women under someone else's image power, third party explanations about everything of their relationship with everything so that we are always looking through the eyes of another MAN, never learning through direct experience, first party to first party, and where has that got us?

It is impossible to create "The System" without doing this, be it through overt or covert means.

We are all unique and original, not one the same as the next, each to our own skin, so how can we all be forced under the same image, third party?

If you comprehend this and you are who you are and we are who we are, why did you try to impose your image power, third party, over us, first party, and Anastasia, first party, by claiming that you knew what happened between Arthur and Anastasia when you were not present as a first party? This is blatant evidence of you acting as a third party impostor of Anastasia and Arthur and setting off the conflict through your storytelling as an impostor in the performance of Arthur and Anastasia to set doubt in the brains of all those who were reading the posts. (Link below)

There was no first party evidence coming forward to back your claims and this scenario is common throughout "The System", where people tell stories about other people, even though they have no first party experience of what they are talking about. This is more examples of third party explanations and explanations so that we are always experiencing the programming of the intentions behind the psyop programming that sets the duped down the road that the master manipulators have determined for them. We do to a lot of trouble to expose these tactics and you call this Vatican programming.

To us, the controversy you tried to create around the first parties to the direct experience, Arthur and Anastasia, was a blatant attempt by you acting as a third party to discredit us by introducing doubt into your performance of Arthur and Anastasia and making it out as if that performance was coming from us, from our dreams and intentions when the fact is, you made it all up as a third party and have never apologised for doing so, or made whole with anyone who may have been affected by those posts. Were you concerned that what we were sharing would cause harm and damage in people's lives? This leads to the question; Do you practice black magic? Are you psychic? Do you have an all-seeing-eye? Are you trained to remote view, remote project and remote control?

Remember you have full responsibility to maintain honesty, integrity and sincerity because you have a large influence on public thinking, as we do, and this was carried out in the public arena in the "name" of Max Igan and the "names" of Arthur and Anastasia and, by association, Fiona.

This is clear evidence of fraud and lying and using your hypnotic, persuasive influence to carry it out. WHAT MORE EVIDENCE DO YOU WANT? This is in plain sight. This is DARKNESS VISIBLE. Senses, direct experiences, do not lie, though anyone can twist the story of a direct experience. If you weren't trying to discredit us, why bring any of this up when you don't even know us or live with us? What gave you the reason to do this? Fair enough to say if you don't know if it is true or not, but coming out and attacking us is a different ball game. To us, it is clear that you tried to use your influence to discredit us. Does not a priest or a politician try to influence his flock? This is also slander.

Before we move on, we already explained all your claims of us "backstabbing" you in the post below so we suggest you go back over it because you are still trying to influence people e-motionally about this. As we explained, many people over the years have asked us privately for our opinion of you and we have told them that you support "The System" and have no remedy to offer that gets us all out of "The System" forevermore. From the Australian Constitution to Ron Paul to the OPPT. It's all system stuff leading to more systems. No freedom on offer.

Max Igan & The Fraud Of The OPPT
(One Peoples Public Trust)
Facebook Discussion With Arthur & Fiona Cristian
17th to 19th February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8357
Do a search inside this webpage for this
"Max, in private, to people who rang us asking about our opinions, views, insights,"
to find the post where we explained this "backstabbing you" claim/non-sense.

It's All In Your Work

We expose the lies in your work because we show all the third party constructs that you cannot back because you cannot bring forward first party evidence that they exist. And when we ask you about it, you do not want to talk and nor does anyone else spouting third party rhetoric. If you were a MAN of truth, would you not leave no stone unturned in your search for truth and stand for that? And if you comprehend the third party/first party situation, why haven't you stopped doing it and stopped the lies you are spreading. But you haven't. So why do you continue along this path? If you do not have an agenda that is NOT truth, why do you keep going on the path of not truth, meaning why do you keep pushing third party constructs and making them out to be true? If you are a man of integrity, why aren't you going after people who are spreading third party lies as imposters, many of whom you openly support. If you have been innocent of this until now because you haven't read the posts where we explain this to you, fair enough, but, if you have read the work where we set out what you are doing, then you have no excuse unless you can show us clearly where we are wrong in what we say.

When anyone acts as a third party, it creates a conflict in people who have not worked out the difference between third party/first party and they get easily manipulated. When we put out a video explaining that this is the universe and this happened and that happened, it creates a conflict in those who believe this. If we bring up a child in nature having direct, first party experiences with life forms, there is no conflict because the child is getting their information directly from first parties. There is nothing to believe or disbelieve. This is very different between a man getting in between a man and a man or a man and nature and acting as a third party impostor of a first party between them.

The whole purpose of exposing the lies is to wake up to how we fall for them and setting each other free from each other, and to show people how they are being manipulated so they learn to recognise the tactics and free their lives from the consequences of those tactics. We are so used to the storytelling coming from third parties programming our lives that we are drawn to this spelling and easily manipulated by people such as David Icke and you who are trained in storytelling techniques. It is like being in the movies and having a script to follow. We no longer remember how to have original, first party thoughts and dreams.

We work so hard to break the spells because most people are sedated by the storytelling of people with influence over "public" thinking. We have never grown up from having people read us fairy tales. The scene has changed but the same tactics still apply with the "grown up" fairy tales being full of money, Oneness, aliens, ownership, and all system-based thought. The duality tactics continue; as in the fairy tale, as in real life. Throw in the trauma and you have created a slave to do your bidding while you manipulate their trauma to have them continue to create the outcomes you desire in the prison of the psyop program. Tavistock reigns supreme.

The Freemasonic/Satanic world operates by stealth, trickery and sleight of hand. There is no full disclosure of their intentions and agendas and outcomes. They like to keep their darkness out of sight and what we do is make that darkness visible for all to see. You know this to be true because you have been talking about this sort of thing for years, and now, here we are, pointing out the trickery and sleight of hand in your work.

Notice that we do not attack you the MAN, because it is in your work that the harm is being done.

Darkness Created

Why do we keep going on about third party and first party? Because the difference between the two is the difference between living in "The System" of hell or living in Paradise. As we have said before, if we tell you that the life form over there is a daffodil and is yellow and you place this third party information over the life form that you see, you are shutting down your senses that can give you a direct first party experience with that life form so that you can access all the information the life form has to offer you. Placing third party information over the first party information of the life form is placing the "illumined light" of darkness (non-sense) over the sensory light of our creation. This is what we are doing with all the constructs of "The System" that we learn about through the journey of our system lives, especially through our system education. What we are really being taught is the craft of spreading darkness and the craft of disconnecting our lives from the dream of life that is who we really are and what we are really part of.

Imagine a child dreamed for and created by loving parents and brought up in nature having direct first party experiences with all the life forms of life around. A child brought up in this way will have no vagary, no doubt in his thinking because there are no third parties, other men and women, putting ideas in his head about what he is sensing about the life forms he interacts with and causing him to doubt the information he is receiving directly from the life form. His thoughts about what he senses are clear and he is free to create unique original dreams that do no harm to life. He will have no thoughts about free because he is already living free and does not have to fit into the one-shoe-fits-all "freedom" of system constructs.

When we introduce system education that brings a whole world of third party constructs into the child's head, everything becomes cloudy. He can no longer trust his senses because the constructs and concepts he is being taught are non-sensory; they cannot be sensed by the child because they are nothing to do with life/Earth/nature that is who the child is and that he can sense because they are sensory. He now has to fit into the boxes of his education, including whether he is a man or a woman rather than just MAN. He becomes a living MAN being forced to go through a shattered reality, going from the perfection of the wholeness of creation to the millions of third party stereotypes the child must fit into to make non-sense of his life and everything around him.

The child has no direct experience with any of the third party constructs that make up the world that is "The System". They have no connection with who he is and as his brain is filled with more and more constructs through constant repetition, the child loses connection with the sensory information of life as his senses are deafened by the memorized constructs bouncing to and fro between his ears. Adrift from consciousness, and with no clear direction in his thinking, the child becomes dependent on the constructs that are the thoughts and ideas of other men and women and learns to live a life of limited liability because all the information that his head has been filled with is telling him how to think, feel and act. There are no longer unique, original thoughts and dreams in his head and those who created the thoughts in his head have all the power over him. As in the fairy tales of shattered reality, as in real life.

Just a year ago Max, you were promoting OPPT as being the real deal which is just more of the lies of a shattered reality. What we are asking for is to be left alone, all of us, so that we can get back to co-creating our real lives with unique, original do no harm thoughts and dreams, and you call this a Vatican program. When people go to freedom workshops, they are already shattered and when they leave, they are still shattered because the Tavistock program continues. They are continuing their enslavement to the shattered reality because they don't know how else to be. This is what Mark Darwin, Mark Pytellek and others are making money out of. We cannot educate others into freedom!

If you can imagine a large sheet of glass being shattered into many, many tiny pieces and each of those pieces being a fairytale for us to build our system lives with. We end up with a life made up of many, many bits and pieces, none of them unique and original to us, all of it imposed upon us. Thus we remain under the "spell" of all these pieces, too full of doubts and fear to be able to make sense of what is going on around us and what has happened to us. Our first party relationship with nature has been shattered which means that our consciousness of who we are has been shattered.

What we are about is exposing the lies of the shattered realities, which means exposing all the third party thoughts and dreams in our heads. We help people wake up to the source of the shattered reality and get back to nature where we can begin to put the pieces back together. All the conflict, the harm and the chaos comes out of the shattered reality; someones idea of God over another's idea of God, the idea of freedom, of how to live with each other. People cannot be boxed under an idea of freedom. There is no freedom in this!
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There is nowhere to solve this problem in "The System". All we can do is roll our sleeves up, heal the damage, learn to love without harm and set out children free in nature where they will not learn about ownership or limitations or limited liability. A child living with full responsibility is a truly free child.

The shattered reality is the darkness created.

Falling For The Lies

Cults, sects and religions come about because people are so used to other men and women telling them how too think, feel and act throughout their childhood that they look for people to tell them how to think, feel and act when they are adults. This is how we are easily manipulated and cannot sense that we are being fed lies that maintain and support "The System" that has no purpose other than to keep us enslaved to its makers and leave us open to falling for the next wave of constructs coming through, even though we may have become aware of the older ones. This is the ONLY way they can manipulate us. If we were all thinking clearly from our direct first party experiences and our unique, original thoughts, we would see the constructs for the lies they are and refuse to let them into our thinking.

This is why we always warn people about the spells of the English language and ask them not to believe what we are saying but to work things out for themselves. We cannot tell people how to be free. We can show them how they are being manipulated into slavery and provide them with a remedy to step out of "The System" so that they can then contemplate and work things out, re-learning how to trust their senses and have the direct experiences with consciousness so that they remember who they really are and begin to create their unique, original lives as co-creators of the dream of life. Our challenge is to come together and set each other free from each other's image power. This is healing the shattered reality. The way most of us think now, we just look for someone else to tell us how to think, feel and act when we see through the lies of the last man or woman we relied on to tell us how to think, feel and act. "The System" teaches us to be dependent on the judge, the politician, the local council, David Icke, Sacha Stone, or whoever to tell us how to lead our system lives.

This pull between our senses trying to connect us with consciousness again and all the alien system thoughts crashing around our brains is what causes the conflict in our bodies and in our thoughts and feelings. It is what confuses us and has us unable to distinguish between the pure white of truth and consciousness and the black and grey shades added to truth to mislead us. It is the conflict between us being present in present sense to creation and someone else putting thoughts in your head that are reflections of creation that we cannot sense in present sense but only memorise to keep them echoing between the ears.

The freedom/truth movement is going nowhere because instead of people painting the picture of their unique original freedom that comes from relationships inspired by co-creating with nature without doing harm to anyone else, they are being manipulated into painting a picture with grey and black in it that are the ideas of freedom and are not freedom. This ties them to the intentions behind the grey and black that are to keep people enslaved and easily manipulated so that they accept whatever remedy is offered to them because they still haven't learnt to take full responsibility for their lives.

INTEL Operation New World Order

To us, it is very clear that the NWO is being brought in by an Earth-Wide Intel Operation performing Psyop Programs that stretch right back to when the Bible was first crafted into practice and continued on through the "self-fulling" prophecy of its projected "business plan", recorded in code in the Bible, and concluding shortly with its planned "end-times".

There are many recruited from "The System" music and film industries and all other enterprises, who now work as Intel. Collectively through the storytelling of their Psyop Programming, as first parties committing fraud, they are casting an interweaving net of complex, overlaying 3rd party re-presentations (con-structs/con-cepts/storytelling) that are blatant lies, used to con and trap the duped into the enslavement of a make-believe "freedom" performance of those lies, to construct the NWO prison out of their "own" making.

This performance is the continuation of "The System" under another feel good/god, cosmic-galactic, oneness consciousness guise led out front by the "Good Guys", who are all Intel wolves dressed in lambs clothing. What a scam this all is. We have been around long-enough to SENSE and completely trust what we sense without being blinded by the "illuminated light" derived from belief, faith and associated opinion in the storytelling of 3rd party re-presentations, all of it rooted in trauma and reaction to trauma. The behaviour of many of these wolves is carefully crafted to maintain the trauma, hence a lot of the aggression thrown out to anyone who dares to deconstruct what they are saying. The trauma is the invisible rope that binds us to "The System", even while we think we are thinking freedom! Reaction to trauma is what is pulling everyone towards the NWO. This is the only way they can pull it off. Refer to posts such as 'The Pull of E-Motion" for more on this.

There is no manual freely available anywhere across Earth that explains how the psyop programming works. It is DARKNESS INVISIBLE. This is where our work comes in - we are bringing the psyop programs into PLAIN SIGHT to make DARKNESS VISIBLE through what we expose, even though many hate us for it. Funny how those who think they long for freedom hate those showing them the door!

We are all unique and original and cannot become free by conforming to the image power of another MAN, which is what is happening with all the "Good Guy" shepherds beckoning to those yearning to escape "The System" but with too much doubt in their thinking to realise their free-will-power to live freedom day by day, step by step.

The Supermarket Of Choice

"Freedom" the system way is always through third parties and make-believe third party con-structs/con-cepts. It is like a supermarket where we can make a choice of whatever type of "freedom" we are allowed within "The System", not realising that the choices of "freedom" have been set up by the INTEL networks whose job it is to keep everyone trapped in "The System". They do not want men and women to have their unique and original dreams of freedom and do no harm set into motion in their lives because, once this happens, "The System" where they gain all their power, control, glory, privileges, etc, is no more. Hence the INTEL networks go out of their way to feed our doubt in our ability to be free, doubt about our relationships with each other and with nature/earth and doubt that we can do without "The System" supermarket, spoon-fed "freedom". We live to remove all doubt and cause a mass exodus out of "The System" in this life.

All the conflict bouncing to and fro between our ears is derived from doubt, distrust and uncertainty.

Third party constructs are not the unique creations of the men and women thinking and feeling them and, while they are thinking and feeling them, they are cloaking who they are in this illumined darkness. This is what happens to the men and women who attend freedom workshops and have someone else's freedom constructs superimposed over the unique men and women they are. They do not get freedom from these workshops, only choice, as we explained in the post about you and Mark Darwin, see https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203677889935853 The only way they can create true freedom in their lives is if they create it in present sense without anyone interfering or putting doubt into their heads about what they are doing, instead supporting and encouraging them. Freedom starts in our thinking and spreads out into the practical steps of creating freedom from "The System" back to freedom in nature.

As soon as someone else starts telling them how to be free, they are putting their lives under the image power of that man or woman and, while they are under someone else's image power, they can never be free. All the freedom/truth movement is offering people is another aisle in the supermarket of "The System" where they have a range of freedom/truth choices to choose from. True freedom is nowhere to be seen, just as real food is not to be found in the supermarket aisles of "The System", even though there are many choices of stuff pretending to be food.

Look For The First Parties

The freedom truth movement is full of men and women peddling third party information and third party remedies. Again, if you are not sure of the difference, just look for the first parties present. Christians claim that God is the almighty father; can they bring forward this authoritarian God to back their claims? People claim that the photo on the driver's licence is them; can the photo come forward and confirm this? We are so used to the complicated, convoluted system way of complicating everything so that the truth is veiled in a fog of non-sense information, that it is sometimes hard to realise that things really are this simple. Trust what your senses are telling you through direct experience with first parties, even if third party system science or religion have a very long, complicated explanation as to why your senses are wrong and why you cannot trust them.

The freedom/truth movement is full of men and women acting as imposters of a freedom (the thought of freedom is not freedom) over other men and women by claiming that their story telling of a freedom is the story of freedom when this is a BLATANT LIE.

How can you re-present another MAN and have the MAN still be unique and original? You can't, it is impossible. Hijacking other people's information to impersonate as your "own" creations is all about creating conflict and all about limited liability and nothing to do with full responsibility. If you make an animal dependent on you for food, you have taken its freedom to be what it naturally is in nature away. You have changed its purpose. If you make a MAN dependent on you for freedom information, you can be sure that he doesn't have freedom!

Even thinking about freedom tells us that we are slaves. If you continue thinking about freedom, you are still a slave. A free man doesn't think about being free. He/she just is free.

With all of these movements/shepherds, everything is in the "name". It is not naturally expressed and lived in/of the MAN. It is the "name" Max Igan in the "name" of freedom, the "name" Mark Darwin" in the "name" of freedom, the "name" OPPT in the "name" of Freedom, in the "name" of Arthur and Fiona Cristian in the "name" of freedom. These are all shadows/reflections bouncing to and fro between the victims ears and they are all the blind spots keeping victims under control and pliant.

Hijacking With Image Power

The black magic priests/priestesses behind "The System" are always on the lookout to infiltrate and counteract any genuine attempts to gain freedom from their power and control so they hijack any movements that come along. An example of this is the controversy over the Ringing Cedars books where Vladimir Megre ended up removing the rights from the English publishers who he felt were not re-presenting his work as he wished it to be presented. There is much speculation as to whether the books were the same as the originals and whether they have been altered. That aside, we can see one very clear sign of the priests of "The System" imprinting their darkness over the information being shared.

Disregarding the writing for now, the fact that the covers were changed to BLACK does not seem to re-present the intentions of Vladimir and Anastasia; there is no living nature set to the background of darkness and that's because darkness does NOT exist. The sun casts no shadow. There is no darkness even at "night" as can be seen by the fact that we can see all the celestial bodies, even after the "firmament" was terribly damaged and collapsed destroying vast parts of Earth and filling up ALL the low-lands across Earth to become ALL the oceans and seas, etc.

Everything of celestial space and bodies was hanging over MAN through the firmament (water of MANS breath expanding and holding the dreams of MANS creation), so say many tribal people as passed down through word of mouth from their ancestors and alternative archeologists and scientists. Anastasia and our ancestors could literally touch the stars because they are not limited by time and space constructs the way we are. Their speed of thought is greater, is unlimited, is unrestricted.

We can still see/sense ALL the celestial bodies, even though our communication with them is limited by the priests image power of "time" and "space" that puts everything into lineal thought (confined reality = shut-down-MAN)) because that is what we are projecting/dreaming as being true, who we think we really are, when all we are doing is putting our life force energy into apparitions to corrupt MANS dreaming in PRESENT-SENSE.

Slowing The Thinking

Anastasia talks about the speed of thought and how the priests needed to slow down MANS speed of thought in order to have control over MAN. The priests needed their speed of thought to be faster than MANS so that they could remain one step ahead all the time. Inventing the constructs of "time" and "space" is one of the confining methods they have used to slow down our speed of thought because, when we believe in "time" and "space" and a lineal reality, through their offering of education, we are in the confines of this apparition that becomes the rules of engagement of our whole lives with creation. Consciousness is shut out and we are prisoners in present-sense, to the fantasies that rule us as demons. Absorbed by this kind of thinking, we are no longer conscious of present sense and therefore unable to expand consciousness wherever we dream to expand it to. We have become birds with clopped wings.

Added to this is the fact that we are looking at the celestial bodies through the influence of all the third party storytelling (prosthetics) such as astronomy, system science, quantum physics, astrology, numerology/mathematics/geometry that we are subjected to from very young, shutting out all the information of consciousness (wisdom) that the celestial bodies (our ancestors) have to offer us.

This is the darkness of the covers of these compromised books. This is in plain sight. DARKNESS VISIBLE. Can you not see/sense the imprint of the priests intentions on these books carried out by all the lackeys who are still under the influence of the priests dreaming that they follow, that being the Freemasonic/Satanic world? This is all done through remote control, remote projection and remote viewing which means that the English distributors were under the influence of these black magic warlocks and witches to make the covers black. Someone has put these ideas in their heads.

MANS speed of thought is greater than all of this, if we are prepared to let go of all these demons. Our consciousness can shift anywhere throughout the dream of life in an instant but we have to let go of all the apparitions and not use them as a means of engagement with creation all around us. We are dealing with MANS dreaming here - nothing else is going on.

BUT the third party, dark-side of MANS dreaming wants to create a darkness through MANS projection of darkness as the combined force of all the apparitions the priests dream for us to set into motion to become the limited tools of our dreaming so that ALL celestial bodies (ancestors) cannot be seen/sensed anymore through our senses. Instead we look at the celestial bodies through non-sense, the apparitions/demons/constructs/concepts, projecting darkness over these creations, over them, because we are rejecting and forsaking them. We are disconnecting from the wisdom of our ancestors. What better way to control MAN than to capture our children in this educated, third party darkness?

To us, the celestial bodies are the consciousness of our ancestors creating the dreams of their lives as those celestial bodies through the water of their breath, the very water that makes us who we are and which we add to with our breath and what we dream. Remember, all our ancestors could "fly with the stars" and that's because the "stars" are the dreaming of MANS creation of the dream of life. We are creators.

Can you comprehend that if enough of us dream of this darkness, we will shut out the living dream from an absolute darkness in our image that will envelope all of MAN, leading us to total oblivion as we shut out all of life all around us? This is the third party instruction of spiritual suicide. Such is the power of our free-will. The strength of this third party, suicidal dreaming is the cause of so much unhappiness and lack of fulfillment in "The System" First party connection makes you feel alive and joyful. Third party disconnection makes you feel empty and sad. The dream of the freedom/truth has not been created naturally. The freedom/truth movement is not natural.

The Ringing Cedars books aside, Max, this explains why we are so swift to point out third party darkness when we see it. It is all the third party non-sense imposed upon us that cloaks us in darkness and keeps us confused and doubtful of our power to co-create the dream of life, co-creating light rather than re-presenting darkness. This is why so much harm is being done in the freedom truth movement when choice is re-presented as freedom and when man and women are left doubting their own ability to create light because of the constructs imposed upon them so that they go with the constructs that only create darkness.

Third party darkness is the illumined light in the dark cave that is "The System". People flock to the "light" oblivious to the fact that it is just a form of darkness and that the cave wall are still strong surrounding them. No one involved in this scam is going to make it because they cannot escape the consequences of MAN falling into third party darkness. The more MAN departs the dream of life, the more the dream of life departs from MAN until there is no more life in MAN and MAN/life is no more. This is the price we all pay for the actions of all those INTEL shepherds keeping us in the darkness. We work to stop this darkness from spreading to stop the annihilation caused by our focus on anti-life, removing life out of life which only happens when we deprive MAN of first party, direct experience with nature. There are no winners in this.

What Is Your Intention

If you are sincere in your desire to help people, you need to be honest with them, just as Mark Darwin and all the rest need to be honest about the consequences of following the third party work you and they promote. For example, does Mark Darwin explain to people that when they follow his methods, they are putting their lives under his image power and that his methods are all system based and have nothing to do with getting out of "The System", even though they think they are getting protection in "The System" and "freedom" from some of the obligations of "The System"? Does Mark tell them that a piece of paper cannot stand against the full force of the British Empire and that a trust or foundation does nothing in the face of this force and that trusts and foundations come from THEIR system and THEIR law and that they can and do change the rules of THEIR playing field as and when they want to? Does he tell them that they are paying him for not telling them of the consequences that will arise down the line? And we know that they do arise because we have heard from and helped many, many people who have experienced those consequences. Do you, Max, explain to people that while they may learn a lot from your work about how "The System" works and all the things wrong with "The System", nothing about their system slave lives will change because all there is is talk and no action, no practical, every day steps to free their thoughts, feelings and lives from system brainwashing? Do you tell people this?

If you were sincere about helping people to extricate their lives from "The System", all the focus of your work would be to help people see the practical, day to day steps they can take to create the food forests and the communities that give us independence from "The System" and from being underneath each other. Instead of educating people about freedom, we need to work together to take care of the land so that each of us have direct, first party experience with nature all around as we help each other. Through this direct experience and full responsibility for land, they lose the pull of e-motion to system ties and begin to be able to wean their lives away from system prosthetics, especially if they are raw food eaters. As they reconnect with the land, so they naturally reconnect with freedom and peace.

This Kindom remedy is the ONLY one we have come across that will work because every other so-called remedy we have seen promoted is always within "The System" and third party based. If a federation-type, global leadership comes into power, we will be witnessing the final capitulation of MAN to third party darkness that spreads across Earth as the greatest man-made apocalypse ever. Only a very few of us will make it and they will be those who are so conscious that the darkness will not come upon them. They will know where to be when the "time" comes. The end times games have got to stop.

Max: remember when you were pushing the OPPT and saying that it was the real McCoy and refusing to listen to any evidence that it is not? We won't go into it here because it is all available for those who want to read it in the links provided below, but this brings us back to freedom workshops and Mark Darwin.

They do not work and they are not a remedy. Freedom is not the intellectualised thought of freedom, which is what you keep promoting. Again, refer to the post on Mark Darwin and you. You cannot put the idea of freedom in someones head and tell them that this is freedom. So why are you doing freedom workshops that teach people about the idea of freedom?

While you keep promoting third party constructs and failing to bring forward first parties to support your claims, you are part of the problem, not part of the remedy.

Reminder To Answer The Question

Max; below we have copied the questions we wrote to Mark asking for clarification of some points. They have yet to be answered. In this post, we are clearly showing the psyop program at work and we have also clearly set it out in other posts. Either you do not read our work, in which case how can you have an opinion about it, or you are in denial of what you read. We always write as clearly as possible and your intellectual prowess is surely more than capable of comprehending what we explain. And if it is not, how about asking for more clarification?

https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203677889935853

Mark, please show us in all your work and in all Max's work, where you are providing freedom and not choice and that you are not providing the "names" of freedom and manipulating and using and abusing many, many people in the "name" of freedom, when it is only choice masquerading as freedom. How many curses are you manipulating into processing in the "name" of money as they react to trauma? You probably need to do some background work into what we are saying to comprehend fully what we are saying but, if you are really interested in truth and freedom for all, we assume that you will leave no stone unturned, in case you are on the wrong path. If you can't prove it and you won't change your ways, then who are you answerable to, who are you working for? Who is your master?

There are many INTEL agents out there spreading lies and causing people to get hurt in the process and there are also many, many people extremely angry about many, many things and some of them are vigilantes who have no problem carrying guns and using them. They have been reading our work, and the work of others who are putting out information that is waking people up to the truth of how people are being manipulated across the board. Many of them have been watching the scene for years and we have been asked to join them, which we will not do because we are not into violence. They have been harmed in various ways and those who are out there in front, leading the way in the psyop freedom/truth movement, as well as though associated with them, will be sitting ducks when the pressure cooker blows. For example, someone like Ivana could be a target if she is associated with you and associated with the INTEL networks that have caused so much harm to so many. Even Stephanie is a sitting duck, and all the others who support you. This is true healing that we are offering you here. Pull out, save your lives and stop the harm, stop the lying, stop the blatant manipulation. .

Our commitment is to wake people up to the real tactics and more and more people are waking up to how they have been used and abused. We don't think you guys realise the enormity of the backlash swelling against all INTEL.

This is Fiona and Arthur both writing in all these posts.

Threads relating to Max Igan

A Spell Master At Work
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
21st April 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8401

The Continuation Of The Max Igan Saga
21st August 2013
Facebook Discussion With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8478

The Continuation Of The Max Igan Saga
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 21st August 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8478

Max Igan & The Fraud Of The OPPT
(One Peoples Public Trust)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 17th to 19th February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8422

OPPT Facebook Discussion
Started By Gypsy Rob/Freeman Delusion
20th February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8466

OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit
The Scam Of UCC And CVAC
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 27th Feb 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8421

Another Facebook Conversation
Between Max Igan And Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 2nd July 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8467

1 June at 02:18

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Denizen Ape

It is quite apparent to me that Max Igan will not answer any of the sincere questions put to him in this thread. Perhaps he is just too busy. He does attack people's character as has been pointed out. I found a message from him in my inbox this morning and thought to myself, "hey, perhaps he has some answers to the honest questions that I put to him. Instead, I received a private lesson in 'manners' from Max himself that I can share with you all:

"Max Igain?
I-Gain?
my name is Igan but ok, go fuck yourself you arthur cristian programmed fuckhead"

1 June at 06:27

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Arthur Cristian

As our first party testament, Fiona and Arthur Cristian are saying that MAX IGAN is lying and lying and lying through his teeth. Refer to the links provided to see how much ground we have covered with Max and yet he continues repeating the "same" lies, even after we explained everything to him about "Satanism", etc, and here he is still completely ignoring our views to put his own slant over it.

As far as we are concerned The Intel Networks will use one of their own as a sacrifice to bring down one of their perceived enemies - LOLLLLLLLLLLLL Your anger and threats do not faze us. We know you love to bait - LOLLLLLLLL - and we know you are intel - our senses do not lie to us.

You are still our brother and you are most welcome to visit us and we'll share lots of freshly picked organic food with you, provide you with a comfy bed, shower, towel, and even give you hugs, etc. We know that you are deeply compromised but this does not mean that we hate you. In fact we love you unconditionally and is why we are outing the burdens that plague you deep underneath the clever guise of your intel training. Nothing you can say or do will change this for us.

And yes, we are happy to do a radio show with you - we just need some planning in advance as we are currently extremely busy and finding it challenging for both of us to be together. It appears Wednesday's mid-morning is the only "time" we've got for both of us to be together to have a long discussion/debate with you. Arthur

1 June at 03:24

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Denizen Ape

Max doesn't engage like an honest man would do. This is my opinion and from what I have experienced here. I suppose this is based on my ideas of honesty. I don't think I can and won't likely spend any more time on this as it has all been laid bare by Arthur and Fiona and by Max himself by his responses. Time to get back to promoting remedy 24/7.

1 June at 03:25

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Brett Anderson

Lol, the real 'Max Igan' crawls out from under the stone he was hiding. So you're going to punch on with Arthur eh Max? This should be just as an effective remedy as the OPPT intel scam you were pushing...oh wait, did you forget about that little gem did you? If I were you Max I'd quit before you could do yourself anymore damage to your "good character".

1 June at 05:00

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Beatnic Bee

looking forward to seeing your show arthur with max in it

1 June at 06:04

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Naturr Boii

Denizen, that msg must have been for me ;-P since it was me who wrote Igain. Just a friendly reminder to him that memory is a useful tool. As it was part of a discussion from long ago, to which he did much the same thing he is doing in this discussion. As pointed out by the love for life's work.

Seems the tricks have not changed, these programs/lies/beliefs are losing their power over us.

1 June at 06:05

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Denizen Ape

Heheh, yeah I saw that it must have been for you. Ah well. For discussion's sake, let's for a moment give Max the benefit of the doubt. There are indeed many posts on Love For Life critiquing his work and claiming an Intel directive. In my opinion, the critiques focus solely on his work, provide examples for this claim over and over again, provide discussion and do nothing to attack his character, ad hominum style. Arthur and Fiona also go out of there way to explain their intentions for their critique, namely to help other people who may be duped by what they see as misleading information. So he gets angry, so be it. What counts for me at the moment, is what we can decipher and discuss by what is posted here in this thread.

On that note, I accept his invitation, directing anyone to look at the posts on Love For Life as his evidence for his claim that he has been accused. I'm sure he is a busy guy and doesn't want to make the time to direct us to specificities. I leave that for each one then to look at the work and decide for him or herself.

I would, however, still be interested in Max backing his claim that Arthur is a 'black magician' by providing an example in Arthur and Fiona's work that can serve as a 'spell'. One example, just one. I think this would be extremely productive. Does anyone else? It would give a chance for Max to back his claim and his words and for Arthur and Fiona to explain themselves. It would give us, the others, a chance to see what a spell looks like and to learn how to recognize them and avoid them. C'mon Max, please provide us one example to look at.

I would also very much like to hear Max's opinion, thoughts and critique on the remedies that Arthur and Fiona have and provided and continue to tirelessly promote. I summarized them briefly for him in this thread. Why does he not address this? Why not Max? It is beyond me how you can say Arthur and Fiona offer no remedy. It may be your opinion that the remedy they suggest can not work, but how can you say they don't propose "remedy". Anyone who spends any amount of time looking at their work will see that it is imbued with the discussion of remedy. Is not the discussion on remedy the most important subject, and worthy of all of our time and effort?

He also never touched on the subject of his claim of 'Vatican programming'. I'm not saying he's wrong or right with this, but I do think it would be worth him explaining himself if he desires his claims to carry any credibility. After all, it is what he is asking of others. Well, carry any credibility with me I suppose. Perhaps he just doesn't care. Max, do you see how it looks when you make a claim like this but never continue the discussion when asked about it? How can you get so angry at someone and ask them to provide evidence for their claims when you are not willing to do so yourself?

Finally, Max what are your remedies. If you don't have the time to type anything out, please provide links to specific episodes from your show, or links to articles you have written which deal specifically with remedy so that we can get a good sense of it. Could you please find some time to do this? I think that due to the amount of people who read these posts, it would serve well. Considering that you are all about remedy of course.

1 June at 06:44

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Denizen Ape

Max, when are you available for a debate on remedy with Arthur and Fiona? They have expressed their willingness. All is needed is a neutral and willing moderator and the technical platform i.e., Skype. Or perhaps attacks on character will be left ou...See More

1 June at 06:47

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Vicki Victoria

Denizen Ape: Did Max Igan really leave that message in your inbox?

1 June at 13:59

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Denizen Ape

Only because you asked, I'm not bothered by it. If Max is just a misunderstood dude with good intentions, I could see why he would be angry.

Denizen Ape's photo.

1 June at 14:18

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Arthur Cristian

You need to put in context the whole thread of discussion we had with Max Igan from the outset where it all started in the public domain with Max taking many many shots at Arthur (and Fiona) over the sharing with Max in 2010 of the direct Anastasia experiences Arthur had with Anastasia back in 2007. This attempt to discredit us backfired on Max BIG-TIME. His Intel Psyop Program was made redundant and useless. We are just witnessing the gradual decline of his Intel Program entering the NWO scrap yard of failures. The links to all these Max Igan attempts to discredit us are provided above - we posted them late last night at the end of the article "Routing Out Psyop Programs Routs Out Intel Operatives + Exposing Max Igan's Psyop Program - Arthur & Fiona Cristian - 31st May 2014 http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8524".

1 June at 15:49

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Mark Jonas

Pope Francis Declares Himself the Antichrist and Lucifer "the Father"
This ceremony was supposed to have been broadcasted across the world in 3D HD on...

1 June at 15:51

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Denizen Ape

I suppose I should have emphasized the 'if' in that post! I was reading much of the back discussions today and decided I had to stop and just focus on solutions. That is all I really care about and I truly resonate with the same ideas you have Arthur and Fiona.

I remember when it hit me that I was absolutely irresponsible for not growing my own food and taking care of my own water and shelter. It hit me so solidly and I froze. I mean, I knew growing food was important for health and sustainability, but I had never framed it in my mind that to do so is really the true meaning of responsibility. It was in this moment that I realized how utterly dependent I was on the System for my life and this made me feel sick. This is also when I realized that one cannot just up and drop the Legal Name without preparation, and especially not without community.

This is also when I realized that the claiming and control of land is one of the strongest undercurrents of the System and without access to land we are subject to slavery. I also remember realizing that I had 'woken up' into a completely compromised situation and that there was an inevitable transition time going to happen and to not even bother about doing it for my own well-being. Time to serve and give for future generations. I also remember getting hit with the understanding that the control of ideas is mandatory for the System's survival. Words and ideas compel behaviour and thus shapes reality.

One other realization worth mentioning is that the System persists and perpetuates by our participation in it. Without our participation, the System dies. Finally, I realized that without our consent, the System only has force and will use force as it has done. When one frees the mind, the force becomes very apparent.

There is a reason for this long diatribe here, but perhaps it is just rambling as it is late here on my side of the world. I want to express that these ideas came through contemplation and internal debate a la John Taylor Gatto, fed by all the information and reading over the years coupled with my own experiences. All of it independent of you guys although I'm sure your info came to me filtered through other sources. Somehow I hadn't come across your work yet. So in the last short while after coming across your work, I see you have been saying all of this for so many years! This obviously gives me a strong resonance with these ideas and with you. As I read and listen to your work and see these same insights, there is a corroboration that this is the right tack. It for sure is a union between my gut and my head.

I have heard Max state that Arthur and Fiona's idea of remedy is turning their back on the System to leave it to destroy the world. I personally don't see it that way. How else can we stop the chaos and destruction? We can't go at it with force, as the System has that wrapped up tight and would annihilate us like they have always done to the peasants who took up arms. Hire one half of the poor to kill the other half.

So I would love to hear other people's thoughts on the remedy promoted by Love for Life, especially Max's. Let's get on with it and get this idea out there. What is your remedy Max? What do you suggest people do in their lives?

1 June at 16:33

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Denizen Ape

Regarding the Anastasia audio, I can see why Max would not believe you if he was thinking she actually visited you, but you seemed to make it quite clear in your posts as to the actual circumstances. In the audio, Arthur never states that she got on a plane or whatever, just that he was visited. Sigh, let's grow some bananas all day.

1 June at 16:38

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Arthur Cristian

Mark, the key here is to completely ignore all this madness so we stop giving our life-force-energy to these lies/liars con-structs/concepts/demons and focus all our life-force-energy on co-creating complete unconditional bonds with nature which naturally bonds us all together without "The System" coming in-between us.

As we posted elsewhere.....

The NWO is already being played out through the Psyops Programs being waged against us by many, many, hundreds of Intel Operatives - Destroying the Psyops Programs neuters the influence Intel Agents have over all of us who are really waking up to the REAL tactics of a war being waged against all of us. The work we do IS the Empowering that bonds all our brothers/sisters together into being the mass exodus out of "The System" forevermore. Then there is no more fighting.

There is a choice of either people standing together in nature with NO SYSTEM all around us or of people standing together bound to "The System" all around us. We live for MAN being bound to nature - we refuse MAN being bound to "The System" under the guise of being "natural".

1 June at 17:09

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Arthur Cristian

People are really waking up to the real Intel Psyop Program tactics going on EVERYWHERE - What you see being posted here in this thread, particularly during those days when we were not on FB, is just the tip of the iceberg of the influx of correspondence coming in from men and women all-across-Earth. What you are experiencing is the REAL awakening going on. They are waking up to/from THE PSYOPS PROGRAMS that have done their heads in - Max Igan's Psyop Program is redundant and has entered the NWO scrapyard as a failure. More to come until all Intel Operatives Psyop Programs are completely destroyed.

We live so others may live for what we live for too!

The NWO is already being played out through the Psyops Programs being waged against us by many, many, hundreds of Intel Operatives - Destroying the Psyops Programs neuters the influence Intel Agents have over all of us who are really waking up to the REAL tactics of a war being waged against all of us. The work we do IS the Empowering that bonds all our brothers/sisters together into being the mass exodus out of "The System" forevermore. Then there is no more fighting.

There is a choice of either people standing together in nature with NO SYSTEM all around us or of people standing together bound to "The System" all around us. We live for MAN being bound to nature - we refuse MAN being bound to "The System" under the guise of being "natural".

We live so others may live for what we live for too!

1 June at 18:52

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Arthur Cristian

= NO SYSTEM (no man-made system)

1 June at 18:52

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Grant Robinson

I'm still wondering if the read was worth not finishing that piece of art, lol.
Wow, Max just lost it there
Considering the powers that are being dealt with here wouldn't it make more sense that the threats made to Max and his family are intended by the nefarious monkey swine to cause fighting where a great team could be formed.
Max has a way of awakening asleeple and Arthur has a real remedy.
After personally trying for a few decades to change the system from within with cogent covert manipulations of that system and having been in the boardrooms of the big 100 over the years with concepts,i can honestly tell you, the system is not going to change, disengagement is the only answer.
Max could well be sincere in his promotion of groups and such, he seems like a positive guy and could well be dissapointed himself and is lashing out. A drowning guy gripping at answers that seem cogent but are just too complex to really understand. People in general even when they are awake are to scared to disengage, it is a HUGE thing to do. So far out of everyones comfort zone.
Metaphysics and co creation aside, I would just like to reset, repair the earth and be the forefathers of whatever comes next. A great big leap of faith with a capital F.
I can guarantee you that if humans can pull this off there will be a day of celebration centuries in the future when what was accomplished by the generations alive today will be remebered as the point when the survival of the species began.
That was a bit scattered, would love to contibute more but am tired after shovelling dirt to transplant citrus and mixing adobe all day and Im a bit punchy with fat finger syndrome.

everybody love everybody!
will ferrell

1 June at 21:01

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Vicki Victoria

OMG Denizen Ape....I'm speechless. What has happened to our hero Max Igan? It's like he is infected...infected with an emotional fluke worm.

1 June at 22:06

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Vicki Victoria

That's a great rant Grant...very informative and encouraging as well. I totally agree with you! I think we can pull it off. I agree about dis-engagement. I reckon Peace Pilgrim's principle of "First things first" comes into place here....disengagement starts with our minds. The rest will follow. It seems to me that that is where they are controlling us....and it's the easiest place for us to start. Mostly because it is silent and the System doesn't know what we are thinking if we don't display it. The System wants us to complain and protest and get all upset and fearful. But if we silently disengage with it (the system) while preparing ourselves with independent living (food forests, healthy living ect) we will gain enough health and strength to step away on mass and quickly. But there will be many we have to help. And I reckon that's OK. Because there is safety in numbers and each man has incredible value to share.

1 June at 22:24

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Arthur Cristian

The Intel Psyop Programs at play - we could see/sense this coming. Refer to the reasons of our disassociation with Kate of Gaia. Moment by moment, all involved in this scam are amplifying, intensifying and enveloping the curse of their "own" making upon themselves, their children, their loved ones, etc, and all their beneficiaries and associates, without respite and without relief. They are all committing spiritual suicide. "Father forgive them for they know not what they do". https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1491713417726845&set=a.142864143... - It's best we start moving away from "The System" as fast as possible. Those who have really woken up will know where they need to be.

Finally!
CNN (Cunty-News-Network)... Shares Truth!
by: Ninja Bambi

1 June at 23:48

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Arthur Cristian

Out of all this mega intensive Love For Life work we've been doing since March 2005 what keeps coming back to us is the creation of a living Kindom where we live in the Southern Highlands because it will be roughly 60 to 90 minutes "drivetime" from most parts of Sydney, roughly 2 hours by car from Canberra and when you include the Illawarra region (and further down the coast, the central coast, Newcastle and Hunter Valley, we are reaching around 6 million people (of the 20 million Australian population) most of who can come for a day trip to have a direct experience of how to live with each other with NO SYSTEM, demonstrating a do no harm, Life Is A Gift way of life.

Having such an example spread out and out and out and out as we inspire the local and wider communities through our celebration of life and our standing/walk-the-talk and sharing the abundance of our co-creation freely (no contracts/commerce/fees/etc) to benefit the local and wider communities (health, labour, support, Shchetinin "schools" (Mikhail Petrovich Shchetinin - Kin's School - Lycee School at Tekos: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5173), care for the elderly (we have heaps of ideas on this that leads to children/teenagers working together with the elderly on a wide variety of fronts), growing/creating food forests, do no harm homes, etc, etc, creates "community immunity" and sanctuary. This is how we break the back of "the System" - helping others to overcome doubt, uncertainty, apathy, denial, fear, trauma, etc, etc, is as powerful as it can get. Kindom needs a large committed non-self-centered walk-the-talkers to pave the way of freedom for all. Who is putting their hand up?

2 June at 00:16

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Arthur Cristian

The Steps Of Kindom
2006 to 2012
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

2 June at 00:16

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Arthur Cristian

From Bare Dirt To Abundance
A Year In The Life Of The
Love For Life Food Forest
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
8th February 2013
51 Minutes 46 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A

2 June at 00:16

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Denizen Ape

No remedy from Love for Life? I must scoff. I just started reading Steps of Kindom...literally just a paragraph or so in. Two comments must be made regarding what was spoken of so far. Arthur and Fiona start this remedy document off by speaking to the need to scrutinize all the aspects of your life in the System, including your intentions. Why is this such an important first step? Well, someone can read until their eyes fall apart, but until they actually examine their own beliefs and the contents of their mind and thinking patterns and do the work of self-reflection, introspection and contemplation, they will not own the realizations and insights. Doing this mental work brings about ah-ha moments where the 'penny drops', 'the pieces of the puzzle fall in to place', etc. Then these realizations will never leave you and only grow and refine. These realizations motivate your behaviour and your new thinking patterns which then compels your behaviour and influences the words that you communicate with.

The article goes on to stress the importance of raw food. I can attest to this with every fibre. I started eating a high carbohydrate low fat raw food diet about 5-6 years ago due to gastrointestinal issues and was literally slammed with unexpected positive results all over the place. Not only did my acute health issues clear up within days, my mind came out of a fog that it didn't know it was in. Folks, this is the real deal. There is now a great deal of scientific evidence and literature, China Study as one example, but this will simply be some anecdotal testimony, and I'll keep it brief. Unheard of energy levels, a clarity of mind that can't be described, heightened memory retention, patience, calmness, peacefulness. You will think on a new level! We're talking loads of fruit here, not just greens. You do need calories. There is a forum out there 30bananasaday.com that one can peruse and connect with others. For those who think about the pineal gland literature, I suggest that something goes on here once your body starts to clean out the gunk and is replaced with proper fuel that your body can digest easily with minimal effort. Eat starches like yams if you can't get enough fruit. Even rice makes a better substitute if in shortage. Anyways. Remember a ripe banana is spotty and full of simple sugars. An unripe banana is yellow and full of hard to digest starch, like chalk.

Time to read more. No remedy my ass.

2 June at 06:32

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Denizen Ape

Oh yeah, does it really seem like Arthur and Fiona are turning their back on the world Max? Doesn't it seem more like they are spending ridiculous amounts of time spreading good messages and ideas that people can incorporate immediately into their lives to start their transition away from the System. Why do we have to turn our backs on the world if we develop sustainable communities? As long as the internet is still available, people can be reached with ideas to all corners of the globe. I don't believe I've seen anyone suggest that people enclave and hoard. It has been more like share and give and serve and help. C'mon Max, get on board.

2 June at 06:37

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Max Igan

yes why on earth would I be mad with Arthur.... here is an email my son received this week for his 21st birthday...

hey Igan, fuck you. you dont know me but I know you. I know where you are and I know what your government intel father is doing and next time I see you out Im gonna fuck you up. Happy 21st. Enjoy it because you wont enjoy your 22nd

signed
Right when you least expect it

... so yes, why on earth would I have any issues with Arthur Cristian spreading lies about me.... silly me, Im just a drama queen after all... yes, Vicki, being concerned for my sons well being, its just emotional fluke worm isn't it... I imagine you would never over react to something so petty as someone wanting to ruin your childs 21st birthday with death threats... A place where people are receiving these types of emails is just the kind or world Arthur likes to create

Well he can explain it all to me when I visit him ...and for all of you here who support his lies and false accusations... well, fuck you too. Have a nice day

2 June at 12:16

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Arthur Cristian

All lies are curses and all liars are processing curses.

Max, if we were in your shoes we would be dropping all the work you do and apologizing to everyone for misleading them with your psyops tactics, cleaning up your "act" and start reinventing your life.

Multi-millions of children and adults are already deeply deeply damaged by all the psyops tactics that causes them to perform the death to who they really are ritual through harm-doing foods, liquids, air, media, materials, education, war, chaos, poverty, malnutrition, drugs, chemicals, poisons, reactions to trauma, etc, etc....

Doing the Love For Life work we do has already brought upon our family 12 death threats, 4 assassination attempts, Fiona kidnapped, two elderly married supporters in their late 70's hog tied, hooded, bullet put through his hip and tortured for hours, lots of hate mail/posts/comments/phone-calls, abuse, intimidation, ridicule, scorn, threats of violence, etc, stalkers following our children, two large raids of up to 16 police, sheriffs, detectives, etc, upon the family home, vast varieties of attacks coming from "ethnic groups" including the NSW Jewish board of deputies determined to shut down the Love For Life website, loss of family home, breaking and enter, low-down helicopters hovering above the home for 5 minutes or so, plenty of surveillance, phone tapping, etc, etc.....

Either "your way" with the "trauma" you ONLY offer here or "our way" through all the trauma thrown at us reveals that nothing has changed because the trauma of "The System" is all embracing which captures everyone regardless of the psyops program used to control/medicate their performance and behaviour/attitudes and which ONLY benefits those men and women thriving from such outcomes.

But in spite of all the embracing trauma there is a very large awakening of men, women and children all across Earth who are no longer intimidated by trauma and are being strong enough to rise above the trauma to think and dream clearly for unique ways of life without trauma being part of their lives anymore and therefore are no longer intimidated by trauma which is what you continue to offer here Max.

Staying in "The System" or any other "psyop program shaped" "feel good" version of "The System" under another guise is NOT acceptable. Millions of people are now seeing/sensing through the manipulated scams which is what you offer here Max, and you are, because you are demonstrating a "victim mentality" that ONLY OFFERS TRAUMA to react to. This is a BLATANT INTEL PSYOP PROGRAM TACTIC. There is no pure and sincere love (any virtues of love) set into motion here. No direction to step away from performing trauma in all its nefarious forms that inspires MAN to co-create paradise (no man-made systems) all-around in present-sense.

The point is, the people you work for, your masters and their networks can kill our children anytime they want to and if they do, this will NOT stop us doing the Love For Life Kindom remedy work we live for and that is because there is no death for those who remember who they really are. Our children are already conscious of all this. They do not want to live in a "world of harm/trauma/reaction to trauma and are already seeing/sensing through all the psyops programs/tactics and realise what it is going to take to co-create paradise all-around. We realise we are not the problem, not the cause of "trauma", AND we realise that we are fully-responsible to depart from "The System" of trauma and depart from all the reactions to trauma that keep us enslaved to the trauma of "The System".

All you offer here Max is reactions to trauma. This is CLEARLY in plain sight and is DARKNESS VISIBLE. E-Motion-all blackmail is an Intel Psyop Program tactic. We are not buying into your offer and we guess most others won't either.

What is happening Max is that there are now many many people waking up to the trauma tactics and not being fazed by them anymore.

Max, you can come on down here and bash Arthur up, bust his body into whatever "state" you want his body to be in, but unless you kill him and Fiona, we will continue on doing the Love For Life work we do. We are not intimidated by you and we refuse to be like you. We will not raise our hands against you, we will not be attacking your physical life. We will have our arms outstretched so you can fire away. So unless you kill us you are wasting your "time" on us.

What are the options we have here? Maintaining a system of slavery in whatever guise or walking away from "The System" and taking full responsibility for our lives.

Can you prove that the hate mail you and your son are getting is coming from us? There are many, many vigilante groups out there that we are not associated with and never will be as we do not stand for violence. Our stance on this is very clear. All we are doing is exposing the lies which exposes the liars. So perhaps you had better go back to your work and scrutinise it for lies and clean up any that you find. Again, if we were in your shoes we would be taking down all your work or at least providing full-disclosure of the falsehoods it contains and apologising to everyone for misleading them. Such is the way of "psyops programs".

Your PSYOP PROGRAM has been completely exposed for all to see/sense. We're doing this with ALL Intel Operatives as are many others who are really waking up. This is not a warning shot fired over the bow, this is a series of fatal torpedo blows into the hull of the Freemasonic/Satanic world that is presently sinking their NWO ship into oblivion. And we are all providing sanctuary for all those escaping the "dead-world" in "life-rafts" (Kindoms), if it is not too late for them to do so.

2 June at 16:04

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Vicki Victoria

Max Igan OK. I apologize for saying that about you (the emotional flukeworm) That comment wasn't directed at your reaction to your son's 21st email. It was related to your behaviour in general. I've never experienced you like this and I'm quite confronted by it and then made that comment flippantly. I'm sorry Max. I really am. I'd never want to hurt you. I reckon you should take that email threat to the authorities....all the way. If it's an email it must have an address that can be traced. Death threats are a serious offense. I reckon over reacting (though understandable) only gives the threat more energy and life that it does not deserve...if you know what I mean. You have to be certain where the threat came from before making public accusations. Because, like it or not, you are a public figure and that comes with responsibilities. Big ones...bigger than mine that's for sure. Will you accept an olive branch your way...???

2 June at 21:53

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

Grow up the lot of you!!!

2 June at 22:27

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Jaba WS

Max Igan Your childish RE-Action shows clearly your "Light and Love" you spread! Why do you come now and RE-Act when Arthur Cristian did already approach you so many times? If you are really about truth and no harm! Why don't you talk with people like us??? I never got a response fro you even i write you a couple of times as many do! But you continue to spread the system doctrines New(C)Age B/S all over the place! And did not change a little since i even hear you for the first time! If you really would like to help people and spread truth, then you would also be able to admit that allot of stuff you talk about, is just TRYING TO CHANGE THE SYSTEM! But you also can give a painkiller to a death ... would make the same effect!

2 June at 22:38

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Arthur Cristian

Are you grown up Ali? Are you a certified expert in growing up? Can we see your certification please? LOLLLLL

Yesterday at 00:38

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

Lol I want to play a game lol

Yesterday at 01:03

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

The Crusades: From Prophet Adam to Prophet Isa, Part 1.wmv
This is recreation of the Lecture Given in Joint Seminar with Imran Hosein in Kuala Lumpur, 7 April 2012, and provides greater detail.

Yesterday at 01:04

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Shaun Hamer

I wonder wether they need Psy ops at all,?
When Divide and rule, still serves them so well.

Yesterday at 01:22

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

Shaun Hamer well said

Yesterday at 01:24

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Arthur Cristian

Divide and Rule IS the Queen Bee Psyops Program of them all - it starts in each of us as the echoes bouncing to and fro between our ears (so to speak) to separate/divide us from who we really are, MAN, and from what we are all really part of, Earth/Nature.

The Queen Bee is made up of every 3rd party con-struct/con-cept instructed/educated/explained to us as "a", "b", "c", "1", "2", "3", "compass", "square", "name", etc, etc,.................... These are all the echoes.

The divide is the 3rd party image-maker/storyteller casting "spells" (psyop programs, the echoes) over us, an example being: "that life form over there is a daffodil and is yellow and is part of this and that, etc, etc".

THIS IS THE DIVIDE THAT RULES US.

The divide is the 3rd party intermeddler, interceder, interloper (fallen-MAN = liar/deceiver) acting as an impostor of a 1st party sensory life-form, a he/she coming in-between our first party to first party direct-experience of a sensory-life-form, with the intention and determination to break (hijack/kidnap) us from having a direct experience/connection/perception/etc with nature/earth all-around us.

They create the DIVIDE (psyop program) so that they can step in-between MAN and Earth/Nature to RULE us, to RULE MAN and to RULE Earth/Nature.

Their IMAGE POWER (Psyops Program) reigns supreme.

Nothing else is going on.

DO YOU COMPREHEND?

If you have been educated YOU ARE ALREADY DIVIDED AND BEING RULED. You have already been got at by their Psyops Programs.

THIS IS FACT!

What do you think "name", Max Igan. and all Intel operatives."name", have been doing to you, to everyone susceptible to such very clever manipulation?

Our work is to inspire MAN to use our senses (touch, taste, feel, smell, hear, see), and not our education/instruction/explanation/trauma/storytelling/etc, to heal all the damage done to us so that these liars and deceivers and their psyops programs can no longer come in-between us and Earth/Nature to rule us anymore.

Yesterday at 02:55

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Paul Brooks

So stop dividing?

Yesterday at 01:58

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Arthur Cristian

If you are not conscious of these tactics you will remain divided = stuck in "The System" with NO WAY OUT.

Yesterday at 02:00

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Shaun Hamer

I'm not sure of the point of this, New thread.
The comment was neutral.
And relating to the division apparent despite the stated "good intentions" in the thread it was placed in.

If you know what I mean .
Everyone claims they are working for the good of all, and yet conflict harms all.
The planting of barren or damaged seed brings no fruit to the harvest.kind of thing.

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Arthur Cristian

It's not about you, the MAN, leave the "name" (self) out of it, it's about sharing insights to help anyone (MAN) wake up to what is really going on. Life is a gift and we let these works be set free (we don't own anything including "name"/"self") for the benefit of others, for all of us down-the-line. Any pull of e-motion coming in-between us is the psyops program at play messing with our heads.

The trauma of our brainwashing is so extensive that we need to help each other learn and connect until we can completely surrender "name"/"self", cause then, we are no longer divided to be ruled by the trauma of the psyops program. If we don't learn to completely surrender to all forms of reaction to trauma (self-centeredness) we will continue clinging to the trauma of "name" that binds us as "The System".

Most of us are deeply in denial of the trauma that rules us as "name". We have perfected desensitising/distraction skills to such an extent that we can no longer "sense"/feel the pulling power of the trauma that rules us as the information of the psyops program messing with our heads.

We have embalmed who we really are under a hood of trauma in the belief that every 3rd party con-struct/con-cept (educated/system thought forming our alphabet language "name" of communication) bouncing to and fro between our ears is who we really are.

This is a lie.

All of it is a fraud.

It is NOT who we really are.

In fact, they are all the blind spots that perform as the DIVIDE in each of us, as the divide between MAN and Earth/Nature and the divide between MAN and MAN, and it is here, in this chaos of echoes, where they gain all their power to RULE us over with.

While we are blinded to the mesmerising image-power of their psyops programs, they use this "illuminated light" ("names"/con-structs/con-cepts) to slip in without any of us noticing, and from their, while hiding behind the curtains of their "illuminated light" (DARKNESS INVISIBLE), they can continue feeding us with more and more psyops programs ("spells"/echoes/"names") to maintain their power and control over us.

This is what Kate Of Gaia is doing to you and is what David Icke and all other Intel Operatives are doing to all their victims seduced under their IMAGE-POWER.

This is the ONLY way they can con everyone into creating the New World Order.

Things are not what they seem!

PS: Did you experience any pull of e-motion (reactions to trauma/reactions to "name"/"names") when we posted this thread to the wall???

If you did, what "names" (image power) did you react to???

Do you have any conflict going on inside you???

If yes, are you aware of who is in power over you???

You don't have to answer any of these questions in the public domain.

You can chat with us privately if you want to down-the-line.

Yesterday at 03:35

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Shaun Hamer

In all honesty I posted the comment because I sensed the conflict in the other thread,
As stated it was neutral my focus was on Arthur the man, Fiona the woman and max the man
I feel that definitions of words are the trap
Words are the trap even.
Beyond all programming we are all man.
Beyond that we are all love

P.s. responded here mainlly to see what your intention was, or if you'd misinterpreted it as being on one side or the other.

Yesterday at 03:41

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Paul Brooks

Arthur you seem to have lost all respect for others views, privacy and right to express themselves. You've created division by posting a thread about how the system divides us, how psyops operate, and then operated in pretty much the manner you're bemoaning...something tells me you're having doubts about your purpose lately so you're crying out...hope it gets sorted...PS: Did you experience any pull of e-motion (reactions to trauma/reactions to "name"/"names") when we posted this comment to the wall???

If you did, what "names" (image power) did you react to???

Do you have any conflict going on inside you???

If yes, are you aware of who is in power over you???

You don't have to answer any of these questions in the public domain.
But I'm sure you will...

Yesterday at 03:41

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Arthur Cristian

There was NO DIVIDE coming from us whatsoever about anything - just sharing insights with you and others.

Yesterday at 03:43

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Arthur Cristian

Paul, this is all the storytelling going on between your ears. These are not our intentions. What you are doing here is acting as a 3rd party impostor of us - this is the DARKNESS VISIBLE of a psyop program presently ruling you to create the DIVIDE which RULES you and comes in-between us.

Yesterday at 03:46

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Arthur Cristian

If we had no respect with others views we would be censoring your posts, your views, etc....

Yesterday at 03:48

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Arthur Cristian

We are/were sincere in asking such questions. Are we not brothers who care for each other, who seek to help each other learn from each other???? Do we have to bring a DIVIDE between us to RULE us???

Yesterday at 03:51

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Paul Brooks

NLP codes 'darkness visible' 'divide' and 'rules' noted there, thank you for those assumptions. (No thanks...)

Yesterday at 03:52

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Arthur Cristian

If you have any doubt going on they are your doubts bouncing to and fro between your ears. They are most definitely not coming from us.

Yesterday at 03:53

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Arthur Cristian

You are admitting to the DIVIDE that presently RULES you Paul. This conflict lives ONLY with you - this conflict is not coming from us. This is NOT a game - we are being very serious, honest and frank with you. Notice the power of this conflict and how much you have acquiesced to it.

Yesterday at 03:56

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Arthur Cristian If guys are up for it why don't we have a video Skype chat and go into this further? Off to have a rest now. PM us if you want to.

Yesterday at 04:01

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Paul Lane

Arthur, great thoughts set down here, we are divided within, their infection reaches into our thoughts and bodies and we war within our very selves....divide and rule is 'macro' and 'micro', for the one is the other, there is really no difference ..... KUDOS my friend x

5 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

We just watched this video about how to create a mind-control cult. Excellent and spot on. However the makers of this video are already part of a cult, are already practising the oc-cults before, during and after making this video. All the education, instruction and explanation they/we have received since sperm & egg is already the effects of the oc-cults upon us and we continue setting into motion the deep-seated psyop programming of the oc-cults upon us and upon everyone and everything all around us = "The System" of an occultic program.

It just shows us why we have to set into motion the Kindom remedy that stops us educating, instructing and explaining everything to our children. The only way to break this ocCULT stranglehold over us is to set each other free from each other but to do that we have to recognise and let go of our ocCULT trauma, the pull of e-motions of someone else's ocCULT-i-c image power in our heads that we have been dancing to, as well as working hard to clean up the damage we have all been party to.

"The System" is a cult, a program that tell us how we should live, how we should think, etc. It is an occult in itself.

An oc-cult.

While we have to use the occults, the tools of "The System" CULT, to get out of this, so long as we are clear in our intention to expand the light of the Kindom remedy (NO SYSTEM OF A CULT) at the end of the tunnel, the mass exodus from "The System" CULT, we will get there so that our children and our children's children are free from this CULT and we have stopped the power of the occults over all of us.

This requires a strong group of people committed no matter what and without doubt about each other and what they are doing, as well as being strong enough to withstand being called a cult, which we undoubtedly will be.

We are called a cult now when we are just a family + 1!

Those who attack people breaking away do so because they do not want to let go of "The System" CULT and do not have a remedy to "The System" CULT . They do not want us to leave the CULT of "The System", THEIR CULT.

This is why 2006-2007 we created The Steps of Kindom, a breaking away from "The System" CULT forevermore, a present-sense (being conscious) living remedy that focuses on do no harm and life is a gift.

This shuts people up because how can they attack do no harm and life is a gift!

How can that be a cult?!

To put the nail in the coffin of the dead and send them back to their dead ocCULTic world with their tail between their legs, we ask them for their remedy that provides freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, do no harm, no loss of uniqueness/originality and no slaves and rulers for everyone and everything = NO SYSTEM OF A CULT. By confronting them, we are showing them that they have nothing except "THE SYSTEM CULT to offer us.

This makes our intentions very clear and is not something people can really argue with if they are honest. If they are not, they will continue to fight for their oc-CULTic belief systems and continue to attack anything/anyone who threatens them.

AND, confronting them with these do no harm life is a gift remedy questions exposes them right out in the open for all to see. They have NOWHERE to hide............. enter Kate Of Gaia, Max Igan, Mark Darwin, David Icke, Michael Tsarion, George Green, Benjamin Fulford, Alex Jones, Santos Bonacci, Marl Passio, Zeitgeist, Thrive, Ubuntu, OPPT, Michael Tellinger, "Oneness Consciousness/One Earth" this or that, Deepak Chopra, David Wilcock, David Woolfe, Project Camelot/Project Avalon Bill & Kerrie, Mike Adams, Quantum Physics, System Science, Oprah Winfrey, Barack Obama, Queen Elizabeth, Prince William, EU, UN, NATO, WTO, WHO, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, ..... :) <3

Mind Control Cults
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnNSe5XYp6E

The Steps Of Kindom
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life 2006/2007
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

Routing Out Psyop Programs
Routs Out Intel Operatives
Kate of Gaia, Max Igan & Mark Darwin

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 31st May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8524

Wednesday 4th June 2014 10.30pm

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The Cristian Family November 2006


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Routs Out Intel Operatives
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Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 31st May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8524

Link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203833338941981

Routing Out Psyop Programs Routs Out Intel Operatives + Exposing Max Igan's Psyop Program - Arthur & Fiona Cristian - 31/05/2014 - http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8524 Facebook Link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203726940962098

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Kenneth Jeffrey Slem

Status quo is dead and so are the people that support it. It is not wise to conform to a dead world headed for destruction.

1 June at 02:45

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Kenneth Jeffrey Slem

In a nutshell: To save yourself and mankind, devote yourself completely to love and truth

1 June at 02:45

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Michael Wegrzyn Sr.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=762538757113903

1 June at 07:31

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Wade Libbis

"DO NO HARM"

1 June at 10:38

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Genene Bates

let's stop fighting over who created the world and start empowering people against the few people in this world who are trying to own the whole world and everything in it....

Divide and conquer is the ACE card these elite families use ....and it is wor...See More

1 June at 13:21

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Arthur Cristian

Genene, the NWO is already being played out through the Psyops Programs being waged against us by many, many, hundreds of Intel Operatives - Destroying the Psyops Programs neuters the influence Intel Agents have over all of us who are really waking up to the REAL tactics of a war being waged against all of us. The work we do IS the Empowering that bonds all our brothers/sisters together into being the mass exodus out of "The System" forevermore. Then there is no more fighting.

1 June at 15:28

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Genene Bates

AMEN TO THAT !...TO THERE BEING NO MORE FIGHTING !

1 June at 15:29

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Arthur Cristian

There is a choice of either people standing together in nature with NO SYSTEM all around us or of people standing together bound to "The System" all around us. We live for MAN being bound to nature - we refuse MAN being bound to "The System" under the guise of being "natural".

1 June at 15:32

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Genene Bates

ABSOLUTELY....THAT'S MY POINT....WE ARE EITHER ALL TOGETHER OR CLAIMING EACH OF US ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANOTHER OR NATURE....WE CANNOT BE BOTH...WE ARE EITHER FOR THE SYSTEM AND SEPARATE OURSELVES FROM EACH OTHER OR WE STAND TOGETHER TO PROTECT NATURE AND EACH OTHER....WHILE WE FIGHT WITH EACH OTHER, IT ONLY ALLOWS THE 'SYSTEM' TO KEEP RULING BY DIVIDE AND CONQUER.

1 June at 17:44

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Arthur Cristian

Exactly - We live so others may live for what we live for too!

1 June at 17:49

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Genene Bates

love what you are doing....thank you for all the information and your knowledge about things....so privileged to know such wonderful people

1 June at 17:59

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Arthur Cristian

NO SYSTEM (no man-made system)

1 June at 18:58

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Genene Bates

Just the way it should be....truly be....you can feel the energy of pure joy and happiness coming from this wonderful painting.....even the earth is smiling, giving it's energy to all the plants and passed on to the people.....fed by the warmth of the sun.......so beautiful xoxoxo

1 June at 19:04

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Arthur Cristian

And the sunlight being the love for life of MANS (our) dreaming/co-creation bouncing back at us as the dream of life we all live for and deeply cherish.

1 June at 19:07

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Anja Vis

but how many many people are out there who don´t even understand the word system and that it exists. they think life IS SO...Scandinavia is such a place

1 June at 19:30

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Connie Sponheim

It is distressing to read all this...in that I respect both Arthur/Fionas view and Max's view (although I no longer listen to his lectures on Crowhouse..just because I am complete in my understanding of his theories)... A&F seems to be always expanding, refining their views..and that interests me. I am currently reading 'Shinola" by Gary Owen (223 pgs.) as well as Ecclesiastical Deed Poll information to possibly 'step out' of the slavery, which is the system. Arthur might say...'don't acknowledge the system by saying you are stepping out of it'... but if I am summoned to court again (which could happen as my daughter is not mentally stable, and manipulated by her dad I feel) then I want to be ready with my EDP, which keeps me out of their system totally (according to my information)..and this info goes back to the 13th century when the Vatican created Roman Cult common law (which is really 'slave law"). These liars and psychopaths recognize the EDP, if they know their stuff...as well as UCC and other docs that essentially make all summons, warrants, orders null and void. Just wanted to share what I know...and they I am trying very hard to find a way out of this private banking cartel scheme that is beginning to fail finally (after hundreds of years)...because it must. There is no real future in enslaving people...as they eventually find out the scheme and work to end it...just human nature ...thank heaven...

2 June at 01:57

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Connie Sponheim

Regarding Scandinavia..I must comment. I am half Norsk and wanted to immigrate there in my 20's and recently, but it is difficult. Anyway, the Scandi mentality..is 'stay calm with the waters..no waves'. They are cared for by a soft tyranny govt...who makes all decisions for them...and their input is not needed. The Norwegians were the first to have mostly women in office to make these decisions...but so what? ..if they people have no input to their system. They are kept happy through various schemes...and they are supposed to therefore 'shut up'....but now they are getting irritated due to immigration issues. Their women are in danger due to the wrong people getting into the country and taking advantage of a flex view of sexuality...that is notorious. Sad, but true. The new hierarchy, which is the Right (is it really 'right'?)...or conservative wing of the system...will begin to make changes in immigration policies..or we will see the end of a most beautiful country (countries)...especially Denmark...where so many immigrants are going ..to take advantage of all the programs (kind of like here in the U.S). Kindness is all very nice..but there is a line in the sand....where you must distinguish between those that could do harm to others...and those willing to work to make a country thrive. I feel sorry for all Scandis right now..they have a long, hard road to go...due to their 'laissez faire'...confidence in 'leaders' who are really out for themselves as most 'leaders' are....

2 June at 02:12

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Arthur Cristian

Connie, lets talk about this EDP privately- do you have Skype?

2 June at 03:35

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Jaba WS

Connie Sponheim yes i know quit allot about scandinavia and norway! I was there quite a bit and saw how the manipulation is advanced up there!

2 June at 03:55

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Connie Sponheim

Hi A...I am about to go on skype with my friend in the U.K...and may be able to do with you...not sure...today or sometime next weekend (my audio does not work, so I use my brother's coomputer)..send your number to my email..which is kauni22@yahoo.com....take care...Cj

2 June at 04:00

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Arthur Cristian

If you are about we can chat - will contact you via email.

2 June at 13:33

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Genene Bates

Things that are helping me break down the 'system'.....Karl Lentz - Unkommon Law - Uk Column and other utubes and Radio talks...man is amazing....it would stop a flood of money going to the parasites at the top....
plus, Australian Constitution and State Government
plus, Australian Constitution Cover up
Plus, of course. ...Mark McMurtrie.... so much info....brilliant

2 June at 19:28

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Jaba WS

Do you care about the constitution? Genene? The you care about the system To break down the system we need to get away from the system! Thinking for ourself! Creating ourself! To try to save the system is like giving a painkiller to a death.

2 June at 19:39

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Genene Bates

HI JABA,
Unless I have been lied to...which could be the case.....
our constitution protects us against the 'system'.....in the pre-amble - it is the Common Law given in the Bible.....the law GOD GAVE TO MAN.....
the SYSTEM WANTS TO OWN EVERYTHING.....COMMON LAW STOPS THEM FROM DOING THAT....
THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN CHANGE IN THE CONSTITUTION, BUT ONLY BY A REFERENDUM BY THE PEOPLE...AND, WE ALL HAVE TO AGREE.
NOW, IN 1988, .........66.67 SAID 'NO' TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT....BOB HAWKE DID IT ANYWAY AND BROKE THE LAW !!!...COMMON LAW ....AND YET..no one even lifted a finger to stop it....WHY...???? Because NO ONE KNEW THEIR LAWFUL RIGHTS!!!..

IN 1974, GOUGH WHITLAM WAS SACKED FOR DEFRAUDING THE GOVERNMENT....WHY?....BECAUSE PEOPLE KNEW THEIR COMMON LAW BACK THEN AND THEIR RIGHTS...SO THEY SACK THE GOVERNMENT AND ELECTED A WHOLE NEW ONE.

THE SYSTEM OF TODAY....GOVERNMENTS, JUDICIAL, POLICE, LAW, COUNCILS....THEY OPERATE UNDER COMMERICAL LAW / MARITIME LAW (law of the sea).../ statute law...that only caters for corporations, which the system is....
GEE, IF EVERYONE KNEW THEY RIGHT WITH COMMON LAW, THE SYSTEM WOULD FALL TOMORROW.
our Homes, Businesses, Land, Transports, Water, Hospital are our REAL WEALTH..AND AND THE GOVERNMENT IS HELPING THE SYSTEM GET IT...and trading it for plastic with some numbers on it....
The debt will NEVER be repaid....EVER...as the money did not, has never and will never exist.....the few families who own the Banks, have just typed some numbers on a screen and then charges interest !...and they get away with it....talk about money for nothing.
THE CARBON TAX....GOES STRAIGHT TO THESE SHIT HEADS !!!!
TO ME, THEY ARE THEY 'SYSTEM' ....AND THEY HAVE TO GO !!!!
THEY OWN GOVERNMENTS, OWN JUDICIAL/ LAW COURTS/ OWN POLICE/ ....ALL CORPORATIONS...
if you watch.....WHAT THE FUQ......Scott found out.....our Government and our Politicians are not the ones in our Constitution...
WHAT IS IN POWER NOW IS A FRAUDULENT GOVERNMENT !....

David Icke calles it the TOTALITARIAN TIP TOE......where they do things slow....1. Remove the Constitution from Schools and Universities

2 June at 20:15

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Jaba WS

Nothing that come from the system will protect you against the system! This is the point bro! Constitutions are done to protect the elite from the people! Who is GOD in the constitution??? GOD is Caesar the ruler of the today Roman Empire (Watch DOG!) where all roads lead to ROME! ROMA reversed AMOR! The hate system even found the way to our minds ... by Grammar ... (Occult Knowledge) Where the Grammarian are the magicians ... Education Means: Training of animals etc etc etc ... we are conditioned since ChildHOOD the HOOD of the Monks/Jesuit/Magicians/Satanists! We get stories told by our already traumatised trough fear based mindcotrol over years and years of wars! Think for your self and liberate you from the Grammar ... Grimoire = Calling the DEMONS!

2 June at 20:12

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Genene Bates

JABA .....CALL GOD WHAT EVER YOU LIKE....(i personally don't like the word....it's been thrown around too much).....but, the Spirit that is in all of us....whatever.....no name will give definition to the 'being' that created all of us.....
just saying......so, if the Constitution protects the people against greedy individuals, like Governments, Corporations, individuals who want to take our freedoms away .....I am all for it....Blessings

2 June at 20:18

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Jaba WS

The problem is that people don't care about words/codes/rules/regulations because the don't know the meaning of the words/spells but still they use it! Grammar means Occult (Hidden) Knowledge ... we don't know what the words/spells really mean that's why i don't use Words/Codes/Rules as even i want! I took responsibility to know what kind of "Spell" i use

2 June at 20:21

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Genene Bates

THE CONSTITUTION WAS TAKEN OUT OF OUR SCHOOLS AND UNIVERSITIES IN 1975......david icke calls it the TOTALITARIAN TIP TOE....THEY TAKE A LITTLE AT THE TIME SO NO ONE NOTICES.....AND 50 YEARS ON PEOPLE SAY...."This would not have happened in my day"....No, that's right....BECAUSE COMMON LAW RULES OVER COMMERICAL LAW..../ MARITIME LAW / STATUTE LAW.

2 June at 20:23

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Jaba WS

Governments are only business and the constitution is just there to make sure they can make their own business as private! Private can contract Public ... But Public can't contract a Private ... simples as that! A president is just a Chief of a business ... not people or land!

2 June at 20:23

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Jaba WS

Icke is a fool and a agent of the system! This system is way more than Icke will ever tell you! And he will also never tell you what really to do ... Just making a non compliance dance???? THIS IS CULT BRO!

2 June at 20:24

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Genene Bates

WOW....WAY IN FRONT OF ME...STILL TRYING TO CATCH UP....with the Grammar.....spell, etc...

2 June at 20:25

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Jaba WS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnNSe5XYp6E
Mind Control Cults
A genius video about how to start a cult. Carey Burtt's other video.. How Not To...

2 June at 20:26

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Arthur Cristian

Genene Bates, Mark McMurtrie is Intel, all his Psyop Programming (thanks in part to Jerry Prus & others - all intel too) work is rubbish, its "system" based to keep you trapped in "The System". He is part of the scam to round up traditional elders into placing their traditional lands into trusts so that they can be all taken over and controlled by the Freemasonic/Satanic world. Common law does not exist, is a lie and is fraud, Karl Lentz work is rubbish too. Even though it was never ratified pre-federation, the Australian constitution is a slavery document of the worst kind, it binds everyone under "The System". The Bible is a Satanic/Freemasonic instrument of deception - contains many many many lies = Psyop Programs. All bible believers break their first commandment "though shall have no other gods before me". The thought of God is not God, meaning bible believers are putting a man-made idea of a god before god. Refer to 1st party and third party explanations provided in the Max Igan & Kate Of Gaia thread. "Name" is the mark of the beast. "Name" will not lead us out of "The System", only keep us trapped. All of the above are deeply traumatised worshippers of "name" trapping everyone deeply traumatised in "name" who worships them in "name" too. Money is the current-cy of the curse being processed - everything to do with commerce is the processing of a curse. Only duped victims process curses.

2 June at 20:29

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Genene Bates

Thank god, I am not in any groups....I keep an open mind, then sit back and watch and feel .....
David Icke wrote about the 'system' in the 90's...Bilderbergs, Council of Foreign Relations, Council of 300, United Nations, New World Order...and now, it is out in the open, so what he said....has come true...so, in 30 years ...he has proved his worth....many times over...

and yes, he will tell you he is only scratching the surface with what he knows...as the rabbit hole goes so deep, he is still learning...
and I remember listening to Credo Mutwa (African Sharman) ...say, that Obama, just after he was 1st elected president... is a very evil man).....that was also correct.....

the churches are more occult than David will ever be....so I'm staying out of those !.....better to walk on the beach in nature...as nature is the closet thing to God...in my opinion....so, Nature is my God + my soul.
It's between me and God....no one else...and no man has the right to come between that....Common law gives me that right., regardless of what anyone says...I just have to remind the judges that common law applies, or they are committing fraud...
Mark McMurtrie put me onto common law - he is such a wealth of knowledge...like many others who know their common law.
2 June at 20:47 · Like
Genene Bates watching cult video...oh, fuck....that is just what the system does....a few families who own all media..(information).....most food, seeds and pesticides ...(Monsanto - same families ).......LIttle sleep and work...we are slaves to the system.....taxes to the Government, Council...(same families own these too)
they are the satan of this world.....and it has to go...CULT = A FEW ELITE FAMIILES THAT WANT TO CONTROL THE WORLD...AND THEIR ACE CARD IS....DIVIDE AND CONQUER...
BECAUSE IF WE ALL STAND TOGETHER....THEY ARE FINISHED !!!
2 June at 20:53 · Edited · Like
Genene Bates OMG...LOVE THE VIDEO.....CONFIRMS EVERYTHING DAVID ICKE SAID ABOUT THE FEW ELITE FAMILIES WHO CONTROL THE WORLD AND HOW THEY DO IT....THAT IS EXACTLY HOW THEY DO ALL THE THINGS MENTIONED IN THE VIDEO.....LOVE DAVID ICKE ...ALL OVER AGAIN.

2 June at 20:59

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Jaba WS

Icke is a agent from the system ... the biggest LIAR is the one who is the closest to the truth ... (Love4Life )

2 June at 21:01

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Arthur Cristian

Genene, it's obvious you have no "real" idea yet about how you have been deceived by David Icke and the rest of the Freemasonic/Satanic Crew. It's all explained in great detail in the Love For Life work. David stayed in our family home in Sydney for 1 week back in 1996. It took to 2005 to realise what was really going on and we've been at this research work since 1971/72. David Icke is an insider he wrote what he knew his brethren had done and what they were going to do. Things are not what they seem. David was routed out as Intel in 2005. It's a lot of ground to cover to have to explain it all here again.

2 June at 22:05

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Genene Bates

nope...thank you for that ....explains why he is still alive

2 June at 22:06

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Genene Bates

same as Aldus Huxley and whoever wrote 1984

2 June at 22:08

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Genene Bates

George Orwell...they wrote about it, cause they knew what was going to happen...

2 June at 22:09

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Arthur Cristian

Aldus & George were insiders too. You have a lot of reading and watching to do to get up to speed with what is really going on. We are not asking you to believe anything we say, do the work and use scrutiny and go where the logic of truth takes you. You are dealing with very clever people who use tricks not educated to the people = DARKNESS INVISIBLE - their stealth tactics are in plain sight but the brainwashing obscures the duped from sensing "illuminated light".

2 June at 22:14

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Karl Grubmayr

i enjoy,your writhing ,arthur-fiona,love it.thank you,love you.love for life karl

24 mins

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Arthur Cristian

@ Jaba

We just watched this video about how to create a mind-control cult. Excellent and spot on. However the makers of this video are already part of a cult, are already practising the oc-cults before, during and after making this video. All the education, instruction and explanation they/we have received since sperm & egg is already the effects of the oc-cults upon us and we continue setting into motion the deep-seated psyop programming of the oc-cults upon us and upon everyone and everything all around us = "The System" of an occultic program.

It just shows us why we have to set into motion the Kindom remedy that stops us educating, instructing and explaining everything to our children. The only way to break this ocCULT stranglehold over us is to set each other free from each other but to do that we have to recognise and let go of our ocCULT trauma, the pull of e-motions of someone else's ocCULT-i-c image power in our heads that we have been dancing to, as well as working hard to clean up the damage we have all been party to.

"The System" is a cult, a program that tell us how we should live, how we should think, etc. It is an occult in itself.

An oc-cult.

While we have to use the occults, the tools of "The System" CULT, to get out of this, so long as we are clear in our intention to expand the light of the Kindom remedy (NO SYSTEM OF A CULT) at the end of the tunnel, the mass exodus from "The System" CULT, we will get there so that our children and our children's children are free from this CULT and we have stopped the power of the occults over all of us.

This requires a strong group of people committed no matter what and without doubt about each other and what they are doing, as well as being strong enough to withstand being called a cult, which we undoubtedly will be.

We are called a cult now when we are just a family + 1!

Those who attack people breaking away do so because they do not want to let go of "The System" CULT and do not have a remedy to "The System" CULT . They do not want us to leave the CULT of "The System", THEIR CULT.

This is why 2006-2007 we created The Steps of Kindom, a breaking away from "The System" CULT forevermore, a present-sense (being conscious) living remedy that focuses on do no harm and life is a gift.

This shuts people up because how can they attack do no harm and life is a gift!

How can that be a cult?!

To put the nail in the coffin of the dead and send them back to their dead ocCULTic world with their tail between their legs, we ask them for their remedy that provides freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, do no harm, no loss of uniqueness/originality and no slaves and rulers for everyone and everything = NO SYSTEM OF A CULT. By confronting them, we are showing them that they have nothing except "THE SYSTEM CULT to offer us.

This makes our intentions very clear and is not something people can really argue with if they are honest. If they are not, they will continue to fight for their oc-CULTic belief systems and continue to attack anything/anyone who threatens them.

AND, confronting them with these do no harm life is a gift remedy questions exposes them right out in the open for all to see. They have NOWHERE to hide............. enter Kate Of Gaia, Max Igan, Mark Darwin, David Icke, Michael Tsarion, George Green, Benjamin Fulford, Alex Jones, Santos Bonacci, Marl Passio, Zeitgeist, Thrive, Ubuntu, OPPT, Michael Tellinger, "Oneness Consciousness/One Earth" this or that, Deepak Chopra, David Wilcock, David Woolfe, Project Camelot/Project Avalon Bill & Kerrie, Mike Adams, Quantum Physics, System Science, Oprah Winfrey, Barack Obama, Queen Elizabeth, Prince William, EU, UN, NATO, WTO, WHO, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, ..... :) <3

Mind Control Cults
A genius video about how to start a cult. Carey Burtt's other video.
How Not To Be Stupid - A Guide To Critical Thinking is at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnNSe5XYp6E

The Steps Of Kindom
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life 2006/2007
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

Routing Out Psyop Programs
Routs Out Intel Operatives
Kate of Gaia, Max Igan & Mark Darwin

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 31st May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8524

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Jaba WS

Yeah it does not show remedy ... but i like how is done and show the "cult" tools (Y) :) <3

about an hour ago

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Revolution Or Revolution by Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 25th May 2014

The Cristian Family November 2006

Revolution Or Revolution


Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

25th May 2014

Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8520

Violence is the movements we start and use to protest against what we see happening in "The System" because they are the reflection of our apathy, denial, passing the buck, laziness, greed and selfishness and self-centredness. When we go to a protest, this is what we bring to the table and, when the protest is over, this is what we take home to our system lives. Nothing changes.

It is here in this state of reaction to trauma that we continue being manipulated into creating revolutions because we are still unwilling to take full responsibility to stop being lazy and apathetic and greedy and selfish and self-centred, which is what "The System" is all about. It is a system of slavery where everyone has given up taking full responsibility for their whole lives and given them over to "The System" made up of many slaves around us who have to work to provide all the privileges, benefits and services that have made us lazy and apathetic and greedy and selfish and self-centred.

These are all the areas of our full responsibility that we have given up taking full responsibility for.

The New World Order (NWO), that is "The System" under another guise, will be triggered through violence and this violence is what is being incited by victims - this is a victim situation here because that is what a slave is. We are victims to "The System" of our pledge to cop out. There is no resistance, no community immunity to stop harm from spreading amongst the liars we have allowed to run "The System" for us. How else did we get our lives in this situation where we have to rise up to start a revolution?

We cannot create movements of violence unless we are victims. Only victims create Occupy, only victims protest about the poisoning of the Great Barrier Reef, fracking and all the millions of other system issues going on doing immense harm to MAN and Nature/Earth. All these protests are rooted in our refusal to take full responsibility to stop harm ever happening in the first place! We cannot be victims to something that is our fault!

When are we going to put our hands up and admit that we are to blame and that we have to do something about all the problems that we have created? We have to wind the clock back to when we were children because that is when we first learnt to do harm because we watched our parents and those around us do harm. They were slaves so we learnt to be slaves too, with slave mentality and attitudes.

If we hadn't given up full responsibility in the first place, we wouldn't need police, armies, governments, courts, laws, insurance, private corporations controlling nature, water and land, and everything else we need to survive in "The System". When we take full responsibility for our lives, we are all this. Imagine communities where everyone takes full responsibility - there is nowhere to hide and no rape, power abuse, paedophiles, corruption, etc, going on. Children are safe to wonder the forests and talk to whoever they meet. No MAN is indebted to another MAN because all of MAN is truly free. A community of full responsibility is a free community because we come together through immense strength, not immense weakness.

This is what we have to face and is the only thing we have to fix. When we start fixing this, all the other problems start to disappear. If we don't fix this, we remain as victims reacting to trauma, needing the order of some sort of system to keep us together.

The psyop programs that have been in place for a long time and the latest ones being implemented by their INTEL operatives, rely on us remaining as victims. When enough of us are tormented enough to rise up across Earth to protest about all the wrongs of "The System", we are calling for a One World system to take care of all the global problems we are complaining about.

If all of us were fully responsible, none of us would be in a position to react to trauma and thus rise up as part of a manipulated revolution, because we have already taken full responsibility for growing all our food, creating our shelter, looking after the water, taking care of the children and those around us, making sure that everyone has got freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, do no harm, no loss of uniqueness/originality, no slaves and rulers for everyone and all of nature because then we have it too.

This is a peaceful "revolution" because all we have done is turned our backs on "The System" and walked away from it, walked away from limited liability and responsibility and given up being a victim and stopped blaming others for our lives. We are no longer wrestling with it. If we don't make sure that everyone does have peace, truth, freedom, etc, we are back at "The System", back amongst apathy, denial, trauma......etc.

We are the true power and we have taken matters into our own hands and the buck stops with us, with each of us. This is a Kindom, a do no harm community at a local level, which is the ONLY way we will create freedom, truth, peace, ....... We kiss goodbye to "The system" forever more because the true power lives in each of us.

Everyone proposing something - do they have remedy that does this at a grass roots level? Is their work centred around this? If you don't see this, then you know that they are lost or are INTEL agents. If they are not encouraging you to do this, then they are only preparing you for revolution to the NWO. This is covered in great detail in our work. Look at Alan Watt, Kate of Gaia, Santos Bonnaci, Kevin Annette, David Icke, Michael Tellinger, Max Igan....... there are hundreds and hundreds of them coming from everywhere. What you notice in all their work is that there is NO REMEDY that does what we have described above.

Their work is so close to the truth but not close enough that you walk away from their workshops and talks, their education, inspired to get moving and create paradise in your backyard and in the community around you. They are creating a web of thinking that is preparing everyone to react to the global, one world system remedy those in power are going to offer off the back of whatever threat they come up with, whether alien invasion, natural disaster or civil/world war. The temptation to get sucked into the exposure of all the lies of "The System" and everything that "they" have done to us is great but it does not provide a remedy.

Your head can be full of information but you are still not creating remedy. Look around you and you will see the evidence. There has been a saturation of this kind of work for years now but we are still living under "The System' and still a million miles from Paradise. All the exposure of "The System" remedy is a distraction to keep us busy so that, when disaster strikes, we will be caught with our pants down and have to accept the "remedy" they offer.

There is so much information exposing the lies but none of those doing the exposing say anything about remedy because they don't have a remedy to promote. This is not their passion, not their instructions.

Learn the psyop tactics. Look at the posts below.......We need to meet up with people around us who we can work with to create our Kindoms, even if we don't have land yet. Get those food forests growing. Start learning how to live without "The System", with NO system. Everything else is a waste of waking life.

We will be happy if there is no one reading our posts because they are all too busy in the garden, creating community at a local level. Then we will be able to be out in the garden more too! We get busy at grass roots level and we start pulling away from the council, the police and learn to deal with the INTEL agents who try to cause problems because you know your community well enough to know that most people don't do this.

Notice that all the "names' out there are all talking at a bigger scale which leads to a global scale which prepares us for the NWO.

Everything we do has to be about fixing things around us and never copping out for others to fix it for us at a global level, because the moment we go back to global level, we are back to a slave system. Watch out for anyone who tries to manipulate you by saying that it can't be done and it's too difficult. It can be done if we focus on it and do what needs to be done to make it happen.

If you have a back door and don't take full responsibility for making it happen, you will be set up to give it all up. You have to be prepared to sacrifice whatever you need to sacrifice to make it happen. If you still want to cater for your trauma, you will remain a slave and part of the problem, forcing everyone else to be your slave. We have to get rid of the trauma.

To summarise: a major part of the plan that brings in the NWO is to incite violence leading to revolution. This is what the Satanic/Freemasonic world WANTS. They have spent hundreds of years preparing for this moment by gradually taking away the full responsibility for taking care of the land from all tribes of MAN all across Earth. We all come from these tribes to be the slaves that they planned for us to be.

Now the preparation work has been done, they are preparing to bring in their waves of manipulation to cause an Earth wide revolution that will be the opportunity for them to bring in their global/universal 'remedy", a oneness, consciousness One World Council or Federation, something that may look as though it comes straight out of Star Trek.

If we allow this to happen, nothing has changed because we are still under limited liability and still under the dictates of other men and women who will continue to indoctrinate our children so that they remain as educated slaves under their system, just as we are. They have to maintain the brain control over the children, just as the brain control is maintained over us and was maintained over our parents and grandparents going right back to when our ancestors were invaded, decimated and enslaved by this agenda in all its forms, from overt control to covert.

To us, the remedy is very simple. To us, God means full responsibility. The creator of the dream of life entered the dream of life as MAN and MAN has all the power of the creator, the full responsibility of all that power and every MAN that has been created by MAN also has it, making us all co-creators of the dream of life.

Along the way, some of our ancestors started interfering with us and teaching us that we were less than that until gradually, through the generations, here we all are, brainwashed slaves all across Earth with very little responsibility under the power and might of those who turned against us and think that they are gods and the rest of us are less than gods, less than full responsibility and without rights to have full responsibility for land, nature, Earth, our dreams and thoughts.

They invade our brains with their education in every way to keep us dumb, stupid and programmed as slaves. We cannot be unique, original MAN when our brains are filled with the thoughts and ideas of other men and women. The creator of the dream of life didn't have another MAN to educate living creator. So why do we need to be educated? All the qualities of living creator are in us, but we have been taught to ignore them.

The education system teaches us to doubt that we can take full responsibility and to doubt each other and have that doubt spread out to everyone everywhere so that no one can trust anyone and we need their education to perform their systems as slaves to keep us together. Interesting that there were no global disasters when tribes of MAN lived freely all across Earth. And those of "The System" think they can come up with a remedy to the total destruction they have caused AND still keep the system that has taught us to cause this destruction with all its tools, one of those tools being the his-story that they recorded and twisted to suit their agendas, telling us that we were hostile and came from the dark ages. This is all lies.

The INTEL networks come from these people, either because they are their descendants or because they have sold out to them. If we want freedom, we have to return to our natural inheritance of the full power and responsibility of living creator.

We promote a peaceful do no harm turning away from "The System" where millions of us give up self-centeredness to serve each other in the co-creation of a living paradise = Kindom. We need to start getting more serious and committed to co-creating a living paradise in present-sense that sets a precedence, a do no harm example to break the back of the NWO operatives. People need to see/sense how to live without "The System" and that it can be done and must be done. Any doubt about this is just the psyop programs doing their job between your ears.

The true revolution is a peaceful one that is not trauma based. It starts in the garden and with men and women who are prepared to work very hard for as long as it takes to repair the damage done and start feeding each other and supporting each other, breaking down our ties to our lives as slaves and living our lives in service to those around us, as they are in service to us until we have repaired the damage, grown the food forests and we are strong enough to set each other free from each other.

From Bare Dirt To Abundance
A Year In The Life Of The
Love For Life Food Forest

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
8th February 2013
51 Minutes 46 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A

There is no quick fix and those who aren't prepared to work hard will not remember who they really are and will continue to wallow in the symptoms of apathy, denial, laziness, greed, selfishness and self centredness.

Refer to the Sequential Order below of many of our articles, videos, debates & podcasts. In it is a remedy section that focuses more on the everyday practical steps we can make to turn away from "The System" and back to full responsibility. One post mentioned in the list, "Separating The Wheat From The Chaff", has yet to be published but should be up by the end of the week. It contains most of the work we have done on Facebook and elsewhere over the last five weeks, most of which is relevant to what we have written above. It is on the FB wall for anyone to read if they wish, see Facebook links below.

https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203751893905906
and
https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203667898126064
and
https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203666156282519
and
https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203670852759928
and
https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203677889935853
and
https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203666086280769
and
https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203585889075889
and
https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203584880810683

Sequential Order

We ask you to NOT believe anything we say/share and instead use scrutiny like an intense blow torch and go where the logic of truth/sense takes you. This is very, very important. Put everything you believe up to the test of scrutiny to see how it stacks up. If you are true to your heart/senses and go where the logic of truth/sense takes you will find that NO belief, etc, will stand up to the test of scrutiny. They just do not stack up because they are lies/fraud.

After you have watched and read all the material and any questions are left unanswered, send us your landline number and we will use the internet phone as a free unlimited call. We are on Sydney NSW Australia time. Best times for us to chat are between 11.00am and 6.00pm.

It is critical that you fully comprehend Image Power, "Spelling", Trauma, Reaction To Trauma, Curses, Processing Curses, Full-Responsibility/Liability, Limited Liability/Responsibility (passing-the-back), Slavery, Senses/Sense vs Non-Sense/Senses, Re-Presenting Intellectual Property such as but not limited to "Name", Storytelling/Storytellers, Duality, Black-Magic, Belief, Lies, "i", All Seeing "i" (eye), etc..... These themes and others are covered over and over and over again.

If you do not comprehend these insights and are unable to use your senses to sense your way through all the non-sense/non-sensory-images that enslave MAN under their image power (darkness = "The System" = Hell), men and women will remain deeply trapped under a terrible state of trauma. Our intention is to inspire you to remedy by showing you how to move away from reacting to trauma in all its nefarious and devious forms.

The Dream Of Life Part 6
Under The Spell Of Intellectual Property

Arthur Cristian - 51 Minutes 52 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMK7CkU1ih8

The "Name" Is The Mark Of The Beast
The Strawman Identifying
Your Slave Status In "The System"

By Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
5th February 2012 - 56 Minutes 25 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdOag66v7uo

IMAGE POWER
The Nefarious Tactics Used
To Disguise Truth And Distract Us
From Remedy

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
24th January 2014
This post contains many recent Facebook comments
and email replies which collectively provides a big picture
into exposing the deception behind IMAGE POWER.
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8496

The Pull Of E-Motion
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
8th February 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8499

IMAGE POWER
Superb Diamond Range Interviewing
Arthur & Fiona Cristian 4th February 2014
http://youtu.be/qFnuuw3kLog
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8501

Trauma Induced Fantasy
July 2013 Interview With
Jeanice Barcelo And Arthur & Fiona Cristian
http://youtu.be/CZVj-ddUoZw
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8500

Processing Curses
A Lie Is A Curse
Liars Process Curses

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
26th February 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8503

How The System Is Really Constructed
Bouncing Back Curses Upon Curse Makers
To Stop Harm Forevermore

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
27th February 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8504

Slave To A Name
Parts One, Two, Three, Four,
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd to 6th March 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8505

Educated Slaves
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
20th March 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8506

The Only Path To Freedom
Beware The False Steps

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 2nd April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8508

Free-Dumb For All
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 5th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8510

Revoking The Ego
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 8th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8511

How MAN Commits Spiritual Suicide
Arthur Cristian
Love For Life - 3rd April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8509

How To Detect Intel Operatives Working
For The New World Order Agenda
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 10th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8512

How The Psyop Program & Intel Networks
Are Messing With Your Head +
His-Story/Her-Story

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8513

Godzilla Through The Looking Glass
Destroyed By Name"

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 20th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514

What It's Going To Take
To Co-Create Freedom Forevermore

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 22nd April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514

Falling For Fairy Stories
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 24th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514

A Disassociation From The Work
Of Kate of Gaia

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 17th May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8517

Separating The Wheat From The Chaff
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 22nd May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8516

The True Satanic/Freemasonic Symbolism
Of John The Baptist

Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
24th May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8518

Revolution Or Revolution
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 25th May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8519

Crop Circles Are A Massive Hoax
Facebook Discussion On Simon Kawai's Wall
Involving Arthur & Fiona Cristian
31st August 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8470

OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
27th February 2013 onwards...
Part One: http://youtu.be/Qjp_9nlrBao
Part Two: http://youtu.be/tbybeOWZ-Bc
Part Three: http://youtu.be/yOWoxH-HbVw

Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 8th February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8350
Part One: http://youtu.be/4ze66_33wxM - 70 Minutes 5 Seconds
Part Two: http://youtu.be/43gIi-sjxJc - 81 Minutes 13 Seconds
Part Three: http://youtu.be/oooY6W63K-M - 70 Minutes 18 Seconds

What Do You Believe On Origins?
Who Said There Was A Beginning?
Who's Truth Do You Accept?
Belief Is A Strange Idea.

Discussion Lyndell, Scott and Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Between March and April 2013
Posted 29th October 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8487

So You Want The Good Bits Of "The System"
But Not The Bad Bits?

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 12th August 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8468

Turning Away From The Reflection
Of MANS Looking Glass

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
30th April 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8404

REMEDY

From Bare Dirt To Abundance
A Year In The Life Of The
Love For Life Food Forest

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
8th February 2013
51 Minutes 46 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A

Control The Land
And You Control MAN On The Land
Displace MAN From Land
And You Turn MAN Into Slaves

Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
April 2011 (Updated 14th September 2011)
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8237

The Divine Spark
Facebook Discussion With Raymond Karczewski
Arthur & Fiona Cristian & Others
2nd October 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8483

Capturing Another MANS Uniqueness
A Facebook Debate With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
And Raymond Karczewski
Starting 13th May 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8414

The Spell Is Broken
Taking The Land To Create Kindom

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
3rd March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8365

The Steps Of Kindom
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life 2006/2007
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

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Love For Life

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The True Satanic/Freemasonic Symbolism Of John The Baptist by Arthur Cristian - Love For Life - 24th May 2014

The Cristian Family November 2006

The True Satanic/Freemasonic Symbolism
Of John The Baptist


Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
24th May 2014

Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/09/14/dinosaur-deception-dinosaurs-...

We create water with every breath we breathe out which adds to and expands the water of MANS consciousness. The whole of creation/life/Earth/Nature/Celestial bodies/space is water. In present-sense, all matter comes from water which is the crystallising of MANS dreams (thoughts/feelings/intentions/actions) set into motion in the water of MANS breath. In present-sense, all MANS thoughts, feelings/e-motions, ideas, intentions, dreams are encoded/embedded in every breath we breath out and there they remain in present-sense forevermore unless we completely destroy the living-matter-of-water - we all have the free-will to do this.

There is no beginning or end to water, no outside or inside to water and no within or without to water. All is water. Water is MANS living consciousness, IS MATTER - IT MATTERS. WE ARE THAT MATTER.

The soul, spirit, aether/ether, is water, is living-sensory-matter/consciousness.

Before the fall (all the generations involved in the fall) into the lie/lies of the matter of who we really are and the matter of what we are really part of that is "The System" of "system thought", that is the distorted/corrupted matter/images of non-sensory-life, the world of living-dead matter, our Original MAN ancestors created the living-matter of everything that came out of matter that is Earth/Nature/Celestial Bodies, EVERYTHING, and it is MAN creating "system thought" living-dead-matter which is all of "The System" of living-dead-matter, that being all civilisations that ever existed including the present one called the Western World.

Everything is MAN-made.

ONLY brainwashed MAN is creating distorted images of living-dead-matter out of the living-sensory-matter of MAN.

All thoughts of the past and future need MAN to exist here and now in present-sense to think and feel them. If we didn't exist in present-sense no thoughts of the past and future could be thought or felt. We are all at the affect/effect of each other, be it sensory-living-matter or living-dead-matter. We are the living or living-dead co-creators of either the dream of life or the Western World.

Everything you sense (touch, taste, feel. smell, hear, see - feel = intuition, gut instincts, perception, pictures, sounds, etc, not through eyes/ears/etc) is the reflection of MANS dreaming set into motion as matter in present-sense.

All thoughts are images/pictures.

Imagine the dream of life is a bubble and all the thoughts/images that make up the dream of life were placed in the bubble by living-creator. To set the dream of life into motion, into the motion of living-matter, in present-sense, living-creator entered the bubble as MAN (the image of living-creator) and breathed MANS living-water throughout the dream of life giving life to all living-sensory-life-forms, inanimate or not.

The matter of everything of the dream of life in its original form (before the fallen descendants of Original MAN corrupted it/them) has a natural purpose set into motion. There is nowhere the presence (the matter) of living creator is not, there is nowhere the breath (the matter) of living creator is not.

Now imagine there is no outside or inside to the bubble (the matter), no beginning or end to the bubble, no within or without to the bubble. This non-lineal bubble of matter is who we really are and we are all fully-responsible for what is happening to the living-matter of the dream of life.

Where we go with our thinking/dreaming/feelings/e-motions/ideas/intentions/etc, so goes the WHOLE matter of the dream of life - IT MATTERS.

In the matter of our lives, our brains/senses have been terribly messed with by our brothers and sisters who have turned against us and taught us to create living dead matter (what matters to us) rather than living matter of the dream of life, because this is how they get power and control over us.

In present sense, all around us is the creation of matter, but which matter are we creating (what really matters to us)?

Unique and original dreams of life or unoriginal, repetition of living-dead system matter?

The dream of power and control over other men and women is the God (the false idol) of those men and women who think they have the right to have higher standing than the rest of us. Their education/instruction/etc is all about teaching us the con-structs, the structures of the con of living-dead-matter, and con-cepts, entities/demons that are images/pictures of living-dead matter.

In the meanings of the English language, letters c and s are interchangeable so cept came out of sept = clan, division of family = cult of a religion or a re-legion. The cult is members of a natural tribe/family indoctrinated in-to Christianity or any offshoot of Biblical faith/religion of their living-dead world which becomes the palette (the worship) of living dead tools and information to materialise our living-dead system lives out of.

For example, the religion of Christianity split into the two sects of Lutheranism and Roman Catholicism as in Ireland & Scotland & England. The families or tribes or clans that were baptised into their different religions became the sects/septs/cults of the religion they were baptised under. The baptism is the constructs made up by the priests, our brothers and sisters - equals, that we serve, put our lives under.

We have come from being tribes of MAN living peacefully in nature, co-creating nature, to being warring sects fighting over religion, worshipping living-dead matter, the program of destruction to living matter which is who we really are and what we are really part of, thereby committing spiritual suicide.

John the Baptist is a PRIEST of re-legion. To many Christians the word/"name" John means the love of/for God, meaning the Grand Architect of "The System" who is the false idol "God" for worshipping living-dead matter, though Christians do not realise this. A Christian is a slave of "The System". The Bible is the manual of slavery. All holy books, scrolls, papyri, tablets, etc, come out of "The System" (any man-made "system'/"civilisation") of worshipping living-dead matter - they are all the manifestations of living-dead-matter. THIS IS FACT, the solid incontrovertible evidence is in their hands.

Those baptised by John were forced under the CON sept/cept of that religion, that cult, of that priest. Sept is one of the thirteen living-dead Gods of (all the beastly organs and glands, etc, of the beast/"The System" of "names" that is) Egypt.

Egypt means "The System" of the living-dead worshipping living-dead-matter. The thirteen Gods of Egypt re-present the whole program of Egypt (living-dead-matter = private corporations, institutions, societies, cults, sects, fraternities, orders, covens, commerce/money that forms all aspects of "system life/thought" in "The System") set into motion by brainwashed drones, robots, slaves of Egypt.

Ancient Egypt is/was a slavery system as is/was Ancient Greece, as is the Western World which is in the image of Ancient Egypt/Ancient Greece. All civilisations that ever existed are in the living-dead matter image of Ancient Egypt/Ancient Greece.

"The System" is a Russian Doll with us trapped inside it amongst many other Russian Dolls - all Russian Dolls forming an extensive, complicated maze (library) of image-power (non-sensory living-dead matter information) to stop us ever waking up to what is really going on and escaping the main Russian Doll.

All Russian Dolls are Psyops Programs and are fronted by Intel Agents who are Priests like John The Baptist, etc, basically anyone explaining to you how to think, feel and act without providing full-disclosure that they are blatantly lying to you, have lies hidden amongst truths they share, not clearly telling you what their true intentions are so you can fully-comprehend what is really going on and are intentionally lying about their despicable tactics to deceive you with.

These Intel Agents provide the illusory impression of freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, etc, etc, but they (Russian Dolls) are ALL lies and liars. The thought of freedom is not freedom - the thought of God is not God, etc, etc................ There is NO direct experience with sensory life-forms here.

While we are still under their image-power and influence we are creating and setting into motion the "names" of living dead matter because our natural instincts to co-create the dream of life without doing harm to living-matter have been interfered with.

If all around us was living nature, we would be fully conscious of all the information of the dream of life in the water of that consciousness and doing harm to life would never occur to us and, instead, we would be creating living matter, dreaming living birds, plants, etc, and setting them into motion = SETTING OUR DREAMS (THEM) FREE. But we have given this up to destroy that which our ancestors created.

The brainwashing has been so extensive that we have almost completely severed our connection with sensory-life, sensory-reality, to the point where we can no longer imagine what it would be like to be able to communicate with the animals, the mountains, the forests and the rivers, and co-create and expand sensory-life.

Look around you as you are reading this. You can probably see mostly living-dead, system matter and, if you can see through a window, you may see living nature outside, in its original form if you are lucky.

This is the choice we have.

Now we tune into the thoughts of our ancestors who were already lost so that they put their life-force energy that is the water of our breath into co-creating living-dead matter (NON-SENSORY-LIFE/IMAGES/THOUGHTS), such as read and write alphabet languages, mathematics, geometry, his-story/her-story (history) religions, holy books, education, all university courses and careers, serf systems, roads and car parks, moving paper from desk to desk to desk to filing cabinet while imprinting squiggles, stamps, etc, on them, instead of tuning into the ancestors who co-created sensory-life, as in trees, birds, animals, insects, valleys, mountains, rivers, soil, etc, etc, and did no harm to sensory-life.

Nature was already a living SENSORY demonstration of us (MAN) and we did not need any NON-SENSORY education or instruction by other men and women to tell us who we really are and what we are really part of. It is already built into to all of us naturally.

Satanists/Freemasons worshipping their false idol God had to create diversionary tactics to distract us from all of us having a natural, direct, sensory experience with sensory-life all around us - enter "The System". These liars and their lies now educate us about everything we sense (see, hear, touch, taste, feel, smell) so that we can be hijacked into a false-reality where they can have complete power and control over us. Nothing else is going on.

Here and now, there is a true separation of the ways going on; either we continue with the lies until we and all of life are no longer because we have destroyed all the life, or we go where the truth takes us and return to co-creating sensory-life with nature. One choice is eternal death, the other is eternal life. The consequences of our choices lie before us "over the next few years" (fiction of "time"). We will experience the choice of the fruits of our making.

Every thought IS MANS THOUGHT - there is no thought not created by MAN.

All that we experience is MAN-MADE.

This is FACT.

Bring forward an experience without MAN being a party to that experience!

Obviously there is a bigger picture to this so for more information, see the list of Love For Life videos, articles, debates/discussions and podcasts listed below.

See also

The Dream Of Life - Part One
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
62 Minutes 47 Seconds
21st October 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5O-S6wFgts

See also these Facebook posts......

https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203751893905906
and
https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203667898126064
and
https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203666156282519
and
https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203670852759928
and
https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203677889935853
and
https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203666086280769
and
https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203585889075889
and
https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203584880810683

All these Facebook posts will be included in this post shortly..

Separating The Wheat From The Chaff
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 22nd May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8516

Should be published by 27th May 2014

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His-Story/Her-Story


Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
2005-2006

Much of his-story/her-story, ancient or not, has been twisted and unless you can rout out all the lies/liars you will be thinking everything you are reading is true and therefore be brainwashed - nothing to learn from brainwashing.

Were you there?

Do you know any 1st party you can bring forward who was there? And we're not talking about a brainwashed drone coming forward acting under costume and title, or not, as a 3rd party re-presentative of whatever his-story/her-story they claim to be true.

Up to roughly 1780AD, 99.99% of the total population of MAN all across Earth could not read and write any alphabet language and never did. Even up to 1930AD still more than 90% of the population of MAN all across earth were illiterate to alphabet languages. Today's supposed 6.7 to 7 billion population of MAN, all their ancestors going back through all recorded his-story/her-story had NOTHING to do with recording it because they could not read and write an alphabet language - they ONLY had their tribal/village tongue/talk/songs/arts/etc.....

The ONLY ones who could read and write to record his-story/her-story were the owners of the castles, the land-lords, land-barons, the royal families, aristocrats, the high-priest-hoods and all their scribes and lackeys and they roughly re-presented 20 per one million of the population of MAN going back through ALL recorded his-story/her-story.

The victors wrote ALL the his-story/her-story and it's biased to suit their short and long-term objectives/agendas. It was ONLY these privileged "chosen-ones" who recorded ALL his-story/her-story so no matter what version of alphabet-language history you dive into it was recorded by them. This is FACT. It took the better part of 20 years to master the "craft" and "practice" of an alphabet language and this included mastering mathematics and geometry/sacred geometry - all read and write alphabet languages are crafted out of mathematics and geometry/sacred geometry and all are abominations, all are make-believe, none are real/true - they are not our true tongue.

We are all the descendants of tribes of MAN all across Earth who were invaded, raped, pillaged, plundered, humiliated, ridiculed, abused, decimated, destroyed, and vast genocide was issued all-around. What remained, mainly deeply traumatised children were brainwashed into their conquerors version of their ancestors his-story/her-story so that through the generations they would completely lose connection with their ancestral tongues and word-of-mouth truths.

These invaders first came as missionaries, scientists, botanists, surveyors, geologists, historians, etc, etc, and they came and went for up to 200 years recording/documenting the tongues, customs, ways-of-life, the natural environment, etc, etc, and when they finished recording all their his-story/her-story they then sent in their warships and armies to decimate the tribes. This happened all-across-Earth, all over Europe, Americas, Asia-Pacific regions, etc, etc... All the Royal families of Europa are all the "SAME" bloodlines and all are under the power and control of the Freemasonic/Satanic world led by high-priests/priestesses who created ALL religions, philosophies, civilisations, cults, sects, races, occults, esoterics, "system science", etc, known throughout all recorded his-story/her-story.

The British Empire, not the slaves/drones/commoners/serfs, etc, under Britain, is the head, "The Crown" of "The System" of the Western World who conquered almost all of Earth, if not ALL, and are still in power today. They control America (war over America's Independence was orchestrated by Freemasons on all sides - all working together behind the scenes) , Russia (Bolshevik revolution), China (took them 300 years through the East India company and the opium wars to conquer China - and are still in power all over Asia), Canada, NZ, Australia, Japan (thanks to 2nd world war), Brazil, Argentina, Africa, India, etc, etc....... all of it.

When they conquered lands such as Australia the high-priests.priestesses carved up all the lands into parish lands and put a church in every parish and a priest in every church to deal with the sinners (processors of curses). It does not matter if the church is Protestant, Catholic, etc, they are ALL 100% controlled by the Freemasonic/Satanic world and you want to trust their history, particularly after all the effort they went into brainwashing men, women and children everywhere leading to all the invasions and wars that murdered over 100 billion men, women, children - this includes all the poisons, toxins, chemicals, eugenics, plagues, pestilence, vaccinations, weapons of mass destruction, agriculture, eating animals, dairy products, processed wheat, etc, (highly dangerous to our bodies), etc, etc, etc, they brought with them throughout all their sojourns across Earth under the guise of Ancient Egypt, Greece, Rome, Babylon, Persia, Assyria, China, Aztec, Maya, Inca, Sanskrit, etc, etc.

All these civilisations had read and write alphabet languages, mathematics and geometry/sacred-geometry and they all had royal families divinely appointed by God, high-priest-hoods divinely appointed by God and the rule of law of God divinely appointed by God. WHAT A COINCIDENCE. Nothing natural about any of this - all require extensive brainwashing-education to understand the make-believe con-structs they all are. You can change the name royal families, high-priest-hoods, God, etc to EU, NATO, WTO, WHO, UN, NWO, America, President, Prime Minister, Director, CEO, Senator, Treasurer, Professor, Academic, Bankster, Emperor, Dictator, Caesar, etc, etc, etc,......... its all the same non-sense rubbish used under different guises throughout all their systems of civilisations. "All are of "The System", their systems designed to maintain power and control over their captive slaves, generation after generation after generation"..... this says it all. If you want to learn more about this please read and watch our articles, videos, etc, ............

In their recorded "ages" of their his-story/her-story, the late 1100's/early 1200's, they started creating English primarily out of hieroglyphics/pictorial-mathematics, Hebrew, Greek, Latin, and they called English THE NEW WORLD LANGUAGE. The letter j/J did not exist until roughly 1520AD. It appears j/J was first used by Freemason/Satanist Francis Bacon alias William Shakespeare with the word Jew. Words like Jesus came out of Lesus which came out of Iesus/iesus which came out of Isis = Land Lord/Land-Baron/Pharaoh/etc ruling over serfs/commoners/slaves/etc. NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

English was crafted by French Judeo-Judaic Architects/draftsmen of law, what you refer to as Gods - judges, barristers, lawyers, etc... They (all the chosen ones of their cabal) are the Gods of English. Welcome to Alice in Wonderland Through The Looking Glass - Welcome To Dorothy Down The Yellow Brick Road In The Land Of Oz.

ALL BOOKS ARE ABOMINATIONS - ALL ALPHA LANGUAGES ARE ABOMINATIONS - ALL NUMERICS ARE ABOMINATIONS - they were all crafted for PSYOPS PROGRAMMING - There was no other purpose for them. While anyone believes in this non-sense they have become the abomination too.

Find a book, scroll, papyri, tablet, alpha language, mathematics, geometry/sacred geometry, recorded history, not part of "The System" of those/any recorded "ages". Can you do that? If you can't then this clearly reveals to you DARKNESS VISIBLE, demonstrating just how big this grand deception is and has been.

Every letter (image) of all alpha languages are incantations designed to craft "spells" set into motion by fallen/conned-MAN.

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

Sequential Order

We ask you to NOT believe anything we say/share and instead use scrutiny like an intense blow torch and go where the logic of truth/sense takes you. This is very, very important. Put everything you believe up to the test of scrutiny to see how it stacks up. If you are true to your heart/senses and go where the logic of truth/sense takes you will find that NO belief, etc, will stand up to the test of scrutiny. They just do not stack up because they are lies/fraud.

After you have watched and read all the material and any questions are left unanswered, send us your landline number and we will use the internet phone as a free unlimited call. We are on Sydney NSW Australia time. Best times for us to chat are between 11.00am and 6.00pm.

It is critical that you fully comprehend Image Power, "Spelling", Trauma, Reaction To Trauma, Curses, Processing Curses, Full-Responsibility/Liability, Limited Liability/Responsibility (passing-the-back), Slavery, Senses/Sense vs Non-Sense/Senses, Re-Presenting Intellectual Property such as but not limited to "Name", Storytelling/Storytellers, Duality, Black-Magic, Belief, Lies, "i", All Seeing "i" (eye), etc..... These themes and others are covered over and over and over again.

If you do not comprehend these insights and are unable to use your senses to sense your way through all the non-sense/non-sensory-images that enslave MAN under their image power (darkness = "The System" = Hell), men and women will remain deeply trapped under a terrible state of trauma. Our intention is to inspire you to remedy by showing you how to move away from reacting to trauma in all its nefarious and devious forms.

Godzilla Through The Looking Glass Destroyed By "Name" by Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 20th April 2014

The Cristian Family November 2006

Godzilla Through The Looking Glass
Destroyed By "Name"


Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

20th April 2014

http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514

This article shows how duality is a fantastic piece of Satanic/Freemasonic Psyop Programming and how "Name" is used to turn you into Godzilla the robot.

Note: Refer to the sequential order listing a series of Love For Life videos, articles, debates that together provide the big-picture we see/sense. All the articles, etc, are different windows on the big-picture to help people learn to be able to zoom in on something and recognise the spells so that they don't fall for them. We don't write to cast spells; our writing is about freeing our lives from the spells. We are not spellers and we are not about creating cults or followers because, while we follow, we are still fallen MAN, still slaves looking for someone else to tell us how to think, feel and act. For us to co-create Paradise together, we all need to stand on our own two feet, coming together out of strength rather than weakness.

We cover a lot of the same ground from different angles because what we write is not to be found in any books or writings of "The System". Much of what we say sounds extreme if you are not familiar with the big-picture of what is going on across Earth to keep us enslaved and thinking we are powerless, which is why we suggest going through our work in the order provided so you comprehend fully what we are saying.

We refer to many themes in this post that we cover in greater detail in previous posts so, if you come across something that is not clear, you can most likely find further explanation in other posts, particularly those written this year. What we cover really clearly here is the "name" and how the "name" is used to keep us spell-bound and oblivious to what is being done to us. Those behind "The System" are very clever in the way they weave their spells to keep you hooked, even if you think you are on the way to freedom. They are masters of distraction and disguise and masters of reaction to trauma.

If you think that there is too much reading and watching, just think of all the hours and hours and hours you have spent being brainwashed. Just about every hour that you were not asleep. If you want freedom, you are going to have to put in a bit of effort to counteract that brainwashing and learn to recognise the brainwashing tactics that have been used against you for so long, otherwise you will keep being brainwashed! What price freedom?

The Love For Life work is the result of many years of contemplating, discussing, researching, debating, arguing, putting all beliefs to the test and using logic and scrutiny to work things out. In doing this, we have unravelled the secrets that they do not tell you in books that only offer you red-herrings. We have not come across anyone who has been able to debunk this work and prove to us that what we are saying is wrong. People may not agree with us, or may have beliefs that make them unable to accept what we are saying, but no one has been able to show us logically and clearly that we are on the wrong track.

If you are not on the Love For Life Website reading this, go to the Godzilla Through The Looking Glass Destroyed By "Name" article on the website here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514 and just scroll down. Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life

Prelude

So why do we keep putting the effort into putting stuff on the internet and discussing and debating instead of putting our energy into becoming more physically free of "The System"? Because, even if we find a lovely piece of land and work towards getting self sufficient as a family, we are still at risk from all the system lackeys who will no doubt be sent around to round up evil doers like us who attempt to live without "The System" as the overt control methods come to the fore, which is very likely to happen sometime within the next 5 years, more than likely, less than two years. Until we get together to break away from "The System" in large numbers so that we can withstand the force of "The System" should it arrive, we do not have peace, freedom and security.

This is why we do what we do; to stop the man-made darkness that is the spell-binding destruction created by Godzilla Drones swarming over all the lands to kill everyone doing trying to break away according to the program they operate from. To them, those who reject them and their services are domestic terrorists, just like the Bundy family in Nevada?

They already have the "22nd century" technology in place to find anyone, anywhere quickly and easily and they are just polishing their technology, honing the fine details of their NWO plans and all the preparations for their invasions in place, all the while keeping billions distracted through their tens of thousands of INTEL shepherds, so that they are ready to go to war against us under the guise of whatever excuse they put out, whether invasion by China, aliens, civil/social war, economic collapse, environmental disasters, etc, etc.

Bar forcing them to process the curses of their "own" making, there is nowhere any of us can escape from their technology. They have laser beams, Reagan Star Wars Laser Satellites, Drones, High-Energy Pulses Directed Digitally, HAARP, highly-toxic/radioactive Enriched Uranium amongst many many other nasties, released in the wind, water, etc, One million Chinese Army under their complete control........ to mention just a few amongst the many other forms of highly destructive technology and man-power at their disposal.

We live to break down the reincarnation of Rome/Babylon/Egypt/Greece/etc "The System" and put a final end to this madness so that we can all live freely on the land knowing that there is no one to bring in the bulldozers and the guns. We've clearly explained everything about this and the tactics we apply. If we don't succeed, no one out there living on the land (truly out of "The System", not system shepherds claiming to be showing the way) will be around to enjoy the fruits of their hard labour down-the-line.

Our victory (their war against us, not ours) comes from inspiring white and blue collar workers to flee "The System" in massive droves as the consciousness of "community immunity" which is at the very heart of "The Steps Of Kindom" spreads and spreads. What inspires them to flee? Waking up to the tactics being used against them that turn them into slaves and robots and there are no winners in any of this. These are the tactics that we reveal.

The awakening needs to be amongst the congregations of people living in cities and large suburban satellite centers/towns all around-us. This is why, since 2005, we have persisted sharing the many many Love For Life insights we work with to evoke a real major shift in consciousness (not the premeditated/engineered Intel version of one), otherwise we are all stuffed. There is much more to all this and its all clearly written out in the remedy section of our work.

Reflections And Shadows

Can the reflection of you in the mirror talk freely with you of its own free will? Of course not, it's ONLY a reflection of an image bouncing to and fro like an echo between your ears (so to speak). In most instances, the mirror has been created by someone else, so the images bouncing back to you through the mirror are the IMAGE POWER of the inventor of the mirror entering inside your brain with the intention to cause you to mess with your "own" head, with your "own" real-life.

This happens because you have been trained to re-present (act/perform on behalf of) the character/characters/images ("names") being reflected inside your brain causing you to talk ONLY to your "self" because no one else in "name" is there in this performance bar YOU. All the other characters/images of "name" and all the information they contain DO NOT EXIST, ARE NOT REAL, ARE FAKE.

Your shadow is NOT YOU, but you were trained to believe that it is you.

Can your shadow talk to you of its own free-will?

Does your shadow have free-will to be able to set its "own" image/life into motion?

NO, and it never will.

The images of your shadow were implanted in your brain to trap you into performing for it.

This is the true "state" of MADNESS.

Does the "name" on your drivers licence, car registration, birth certificate, passport, credit card, bank account, telephone-internet-gas-power bill, lease/mortgage, tax file number, etc, etc, have free-will? Is it able to set its own life, tongue, legs, arms, hands, head, etc, into motion without you having to act on behalf of it?

Can we talk to your drivers licence "name" and experience your drivers license "name" talking freely to us of its "own" free-will without you ever having to perform on behalf of this "name", your drivers licence?

Of course not! It can't because it, the "name", does not exist, it is all make-believe - you are just pretending that "name" is real.

(Watch the video "Under The Spell Of Intellectual Property" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMK7CkU1ih8)

The "name" on your drivers licence is your shadow, your reflection; it is not who you really are. You were just educated to believe that it is you. This is a massive LIE. The Original Maker of this deception conned you, through the clever "craft" and "practise" of IMAGE POWER, into inviting his demonic presence into your life, into your brain, to be the chit-chat echoes of "name" bouncing to and fro between your ears so that he can program you through "name", entertain you through "name", hijack you through "name", kidnap you through "name", possess you through "name", control you through "name" and have complete power over you through "name" and thus turn you into his slave/drone/robot forevermore, unless you wake up to what "name" really is before it is too late.

(Read and watch the video and article on "IMAGE POWER" http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8496 and http://youtu.be/qFnuuw3kLog)

We Don't Need A "Name"

When we are conscious, we do not need names because we already know who we are and who each other is; we can sense each other instantly, grasping the essence of each other and the intentions of each other. Our senses are not shadows (fiction) because they are present with the presence of our life, which is why we can sense with them in present-sense. But we cannot sense with the reflections in the mirror. The "name" is a reflection, our senses are not a shadow. Who we really are can be touched, tasted, seen, heard, smelt and felt in present-sense but we can't do this with the reflection of "name".

Nothing in nature needs a "name" because it already is what it is in present-sense and can be sensed by sensory-life all-around. Every dog learns the smell of another dog - they do not need to talk in read and write alphabet languages to comprehend each other. We think dogs are dumber than us when the fact is that they can gain a massive amount of information about us with one sniff while we are just thinking, "Brown dog." Who is the smart one here?

"Name" On "Birth Certificate"

By accepting the "name" on your birth certificate, you have permitted who you really are to be possessed by a powerful demon, the "name".

(Read "Slave To A Name": http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8505 for more on this)

But it gets far far far far far far far far far worse than this; all the images, stories, dramas, entertainments, interests and habits bouncing to and fro between your ears, the chit-chat, belongs to the shadow of the "name" you believe you "own" too, that is your reflection in the mirror.

They have nothing to do with YOU, the living MAN.

This is how the Original Maker, your master, your false-idol-God, has invaded you between your ears to dominate you through "name" so that you manufacture a make-believe world for him, in his image, in his "name" of many, many "names". As his non-sensory images of "names" form the reflections you cast (bounce between your ears), they become the physical performance of an external world of many, many "names" where you act as the programmed slave ("NAME") carrying out all the informative tasks of your master's make-believe existence of many, many "names, IN HIS "NAME".

This world you work for is "The System" and its "name", of many, many "names", is HELL, a man-made hell. The intention being that your master, the maker of your "name", wants to keep you forever lost in the performance of his wondrous storytelling images (shadows/reflections) of "name" forevermore.

AND what is important to remember is this...... never does he or anything he invented as "name" exist between your ears or exist all around you in Nature/Earth. The ONLY one who exists that is real is YOU, and you are just lost in the fake-performance of a "name" you believe you are that is enjoindered to a make-believe world of "names" that are just storytelling images forming a make-believe fantasy-play. And in performing "name" since you and everyone else started acting on behalf of "name", we have been continually giving him IMMENSE POWER to rule us and everyone else trapped by his clever "names" of deceptions.

Bombarded By "Names"

EVERYTHING coming at you through the "names" of TV, Internet, Newspapers, Hollywood, Advertising, Churches, Synagogues, Temples, Mosques, Governments, Court Rooms/Houses, Banks, Institutions, etc, etc, are "names" designed by the Original Maker of "The System" to distract you from the sensory-reality that you are really part of that is Earth/Nature, so that you forget who you really are as MAN. Stupidly, we've been trained to stop using our senses, to no longer make sense through our senses (touch, taste, feel, smell, hear, see). Generation after generation, since this "name" madness began, Servants/Worshippers of the Original Maker of "The System" have been throwing everything of "name" at you, using the "names" of education, politics, economics, commerce, government, aristocracy, monarchy, science, big-business, law, etc, etc, with all the dramas unfolding out of these "names", to keep your brain completely distracted and therefore lost in a 'state" of amnesia, and there you remain lost and rotting while you continue setting into motion the IMAGE POWER of these storytelling shadows of "names", implanted in your head.

This is a blatant sign of you being hijacked from who you really are. You are now a prisoner to the images of "names" you perform between your ears - NO ONE ELSE IS THERE BAR YOU.

HELL-LOW, anyone home ("names") - anyone there ("names")?

This is how LIES / beLIEf systems ("names") are constructed.

This is fantasy, illusion and a "state of "delusion".

This is Psyops Programming at its best.

They teach us to disconnect from our senses and just rely upon the echoes of thoughts implanted between our ears and to follow these reflections for our whole-life-time. This is now Dorothy down the Yellow Brick Road under the power of the Wizard of Oz, this is now Alice in Wonderland Through the Looking Glass under the power of the maker of the mirror (the fantasy), because you are now worshipping the intellect, the images of the men and women you have allowed to take power and control over you. None of this is real. You are lost in fantasy, in play. While we continue to do this, we are destroying everything that is sensory, including who we really are because we have lost connection with our senses.

We are now Godzilla.

The echoes of thoughts bouncing to and fro between our ears are all Reactions To Trauma = The Pull Of E-Motion = Ecclesiastical Motion/Instruction/Program.

(Read this post "The Pull Of E-Motion" http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8499)

A Zombie World

Can anything you read or watch on TV, Hollywood, etc ("names"), interact with you freely of its "own" free-will? NO, while you read and watch only you can act on behalf of whatever characters/images (shadows/reflections) of "names" are forming in the imagination of your fantasy-PLAY going on between your ears, and, while you continue to remember these reflections of "names," they continue being recalled to bounce to and fro between your ears until your physical body is dead.

NOTHING ELSE IS GOING ON.

This is the cream of Psyops Programming!

This is all the chit-chat of "names" going on in the back of your head acting like a constant white-noise to block out who you really are from ever having a direct experience with who you really are and what you are really part of.

Without "name", "The System" of "names" cannot be.

This shadow world (reflections of "name") is where EVERYONE is being trapped.

These reflections are the image power (thoughts, ideas, e-motions, etc) crafted by other men and women to con all of us to fall into and act in their wonderland as the "name" of Alice through their looking glass (reflections of many, many "names" that form "The System").

Can the "names" of Democracy, Constitution, Rule Of Law, The White House, Government, Democrat, Republican, Labour Liberal, Church, Christian, Jew, Synagogue, Muslim, Mosque, Buddhist, Temple, Bank, Federal Reserve, Money, Commerce, Insurance, Stock Market, Alien, UFO, Higher Being/Power, Astrology, Numerology, Alphabet, Mathematics, Geometry, etc, etc (basically everything of "The System"), exist without MAN lost to "names" to perform in "name", for "name"?

NO.

The Making Of Godzilla

Through very clever brainwashing techniques called education, you were trained to "spell" "name" out of the many "names" of alphabet letters and numbers so that you can fall under the "spells" of many, many, many "names" that are these non-sensory images/characters bouncing to and fro between your ears. These spells are the reflections, the shadows that turn you into Alice, Dorothy and Godzilla because they train you to act in fantasy using your imagination.

Duality is a fantastic Psyop Program invented by con-artists. Duality is you, and the reflection of you, but the Psyop Programme uses the "name", the reflection, as you. They tell you that the reflection is you until you accept that the reflection is you and start living for your reflection in "The System". If you show a baby his mother's drivers licence, does the baby think that the licence is his mother? Of course not! The licence doesn't look, smell, sound, taste or feel anything like his mother!

This shows you just how much psychological programming has to be done on you for you to think that the reflection is you. They place images in your head to get you to perform on behalf of these shadows ("names") so that you will fall into these images of "name" to be the robot-drone they intended for you to be.

If we weren't told anything about the shadow, we wouldn't even think it had anything to do with us, or was us. We would not be "reflecting" on it! This is the "All Seeing Eye" which we have written so much about.

(Watch OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit" Part One: http://youtu.be/Qjp_9nlrBao Part Two: http://youtu.be/tbybeOWZ-Bc Part Three: http://youtu.be/yOWoxH-HbVw and read "Image Power - The Nefarious Tactics Used To Disguise Truth And Distract Us From Remedy" http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8496 and "The Pull Of E-Motion" http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8499)

Re-Legion

It is their Easter Sunday as we write, their celebration of death to MAN, of the take over of the reflections. The crucifixion and the resurrection. We have a MAN strung up on a cross, nails through his feet and hands, slowly asphyxiating as he can no longer support his weight, a crown of thorns upon his head, blood pouring down his face and a severely tortured body. And they tell us that his father, the Almighty God of love, wants and accepts this act of horror? What all loving God would dream for MAN to be crucified in his "name"?

What are they really telling us?

Is it the symbol of the MAN we all are being crucified so that the reflection of "name" (the holy breath) can take over? In the name of Christ and the Holy Church (The Freemasonic/Satanic Bloodline Families), church lackeys conducted hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of horrific terror campaigns against tribes of MAN all over Earth, including invasion, rape, pillage, plunder, humiliation, ritual torture and sacrifice, abuse, ridicule and slavery. Hundreds of millions of Tribal MAN died under Freemasonic/Satanic instructions.

The crucifixion is a symbol of duality and the alpha and the omega, the yin and the yang. The up and down of the cross is duality; as above (as in heaven) - so below (as on Earth). Under the "spells", MAN is transfixed (nailed) to duality. The heaven is the IMAGE POWER of the Freemasonic/Satanic world and Earth is the Freemasonic/Satanic worlds IMAGE POWER ruling MAN on Earth.

The left and right in the cross, the alpha and the omega, the yin and the yang, is the self-fulfilling-prophecy/"time-code" projected plan, the intention of their founding father's dream to capture and control the whole of the dream of life that is Earth, Nature and all celestial bodies/space with his IMAGE POWER. There is nowhere the Freemasonic/Satanic world's IMAGE POWER is not and this is the goal that is the New World Order. That is their plan and why they are attempting to conquer the whole of Earth.

(For more on this read "His-Story/Her-Story" and the other posts found in this webpage: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8513)

"The Crown" of Thorns around the MANS head is re-presenting the almighty IMAGE POWER of the Freemasonic/Satanic world (both "The Crown" in Britain/London and the highest Priesthoods behind "The Church"- read "His-Story/Her-Story") controlling the head (life) of MAN. This represents all the demonic "intellectual property" (holy ghosts) they force upon you through brainwashing-education.

The head bowed down is both MAN falling from grace (forgetting who MAN really is and what MAN is really part of) and MAN under-the-standing of the almighty power of the Freemasonic/Satanic world. MAN has fallen from reality, has died. MAN is dead (living-dead) and MAN has lost freedom becoming a slave, robot, drone, replaced by "name", the egos and the "self" that are all the demons (holy ghosts) we invite into us the moment we accept "name"/"names".

We are taught that this MAN nailed to the cross has come to save us, that he died for our sins*, but this symbol clearly tells us that he has come to destroy all of us (MAN) through their priests, their image power and their all encompassing New World Order that is the next version of "The System".

(*read & watch "The "Name" Is The Mark Of The Beast - The Strawman Identifying Your Slave Status In "The System" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdOag66v7uo - "Image Power - The Nefarious Tactics Used To Disguise Truth And Distract Us From Remedy" http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8496 - "The Pull Of E-Motion" http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8499 - "Processing Curses - A Lie Is A Curse - Liars Process Curses" http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8503 - "IMAGE POWER - Superb Diamond Range Interview" http://youtu.be/qFnuuw3kLog)

In Plain Sight

Let's have a look at some of the rituals of the Roman Catholic Church and the Anglican Church.

Communion

What is the Communion? A mass of people coming together to commune with their God, in this case, "The System", the almighty power-base of the Freemasonic/Satanic world under the name of a re-legion. A legion of soldiers for Christ who will have conflicts with other re-legions because they are all under the image-power of "name", an occultic force. Just as the Democrats and Republicans are re-legions under force of "name", as are Americans and Australians.

In the ritual of communion, you accept the body of Christ into your body, accepting the integration of the Holy Ghost (demon) with you and the power of the Holy Breath (demon) over you, thus accepting the demons through the water of our breath. Baptism is the same; you are baptised in the water of your breath because all water comes from our breath and all water is created by MAN with our thoughts, feelings and intentions encoded/embodied in every breath. This is what they use against us. Living-Creator in present-sense breathed water into the dream of life to give life to everything. In their baptism, their demons (holy ghosts) are breathed into us.

(Watch videos "Dream Of Life Part One" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5O-S6wFgts and Water Is The Life Of MANS Consciousness (Breath)" http://youtu.be/4ze66_33wxM)

Rapture

The Rapture symbolises the remodelling of the Holy Breath into the NWO. It has nothing to do with Heaven and leaving all our "sins" behind. All this happens ONLY in "The System", here on Earth. You will not find any of this stuff going on anywhere else because there is nowhere else. The true creator is (in) the wind, and the rain and the rocks, in everything living of the dream of life. The worst thing that has been done to us is to teach us to stop focusing on the information of Living-Creator found all through nature/creation and instead to focus on system information (system thought) through their education - this is how they get to us and this is why they invaded all the lands everywhere to defeat our ancestors and bring in their books and education of image-power to enslave the descendants of their captives. None of it existed before then.

Resurrection

The Resurrection is the resurrection of "name" (the saved/the new-born) in the "name" of Jesus, the Almighty. They crucify you through their education, just as they decimated the tribes and "resurrected" the children of the tribes in the "name" of their Holy Ghost (demon), their Holy Breath (setting demons into motion that posses you) and their religions, all in the "name" of the Almighty. But the Almighty is a man-made construct, a reflection, a duality concept. We are "saved" under the "name' of a reflection. We have been conned. All "name", "name", "name", showing you clearly their blueprint. Those "saved" are still under "The System", under the almighty power of the Freemasonic/Satanic world; there is no resurrection or rapture that includes people leaving "The System" to NO SYSTEM (a mass exodus) forevermore, to return to co-creation with nature and freedom.

When they conquered the lands, they divided the land into Parish Lands and put a church in every parish and a priest in every church to deal with the sinners, soldiers to their outposts, carrying the re-legion flag, the re-legion of their Almighty Image Power. In Sydney, at the start of the commercial year (of business - of processing curses), before the opening of the Supreme Court, the Judges go to St Mary's Cathedral to be blessed by the priests. Doesn't this show us who is really in power and whose rule of law it is? This is the ancient black magic practices of Egypt and nothing has changed; they have just adapted and adapted their systems of duality to keep us enchanted and trapped.

All that can happen to relieve us of our sins is for us to learn from each other about how we are "sinning", to help each other deal with our system trauma and to let go of our system habits and addictions. No one can wipe the slate clean for us. We have free will and that cannot be invalidated. No MAN is supposed to be in/under the image (power) of another MAN. When you surrender to their Almighty God, you become the host to the demon of that God while you sacrifice the living-MAN that you really are to be under their Almighty Image Power.

Behind The Masks

Who are these people, these men and women using image power to control you through duality constructs that trap you in their shadows and reflections? How clever are they to keep adding to the constructs on offer so when we get tired of one, there are plenty more for us to choose from? If you break away from religion, they give you punk, New Ager, stockholder, political activist, footy fan, housewife, trivia expert, environmentalist..... there is no end to the list of choices to keep us focused on and trapped in "The System", no end of images for us to fall for.

Even though they appear to have all the power, the Priests are slaves too. They were once babies, innocent and loving, who were brainwashed and trained for the roles they play today. They have to work overtime to maintain the spells of the Freemasonic/Satanic world they have given oaths to, having to keep inventing new spells and stamping out any outbreaks of truth. As the lie of Religion/The Church wears thin, they have to invent another lie. They are slaves, all restless.

When we are MAN, we are at peace because we are home. We know who we really are. All demons are restless because they have no natural home, no natural purpose for the dream of life, only the hosts that we are while we are possessed by them, and we are restless because of our possesSION/possesZION. The Priests are also the hosts of these demons and are also in fear of each other, as they turn against each other and sacrifice each other's public standing and even lives for the bigger picture of the New World Order.

They have to create conflict between MAN and MAN and the conflict they create becomes the relationships between them too. Everyone has been got at; Arthur's father and mother were got at by the Priests of the Greek Church, and the Priests were got at by their superiors. No one is free in "The System"; we are all slaves hosting demons, including the Black Magic Warlocks and Witches. Like us, they have no sanctuary and no peace.

They are behind every religion and everything of "name" in "The System". They and all their Brethren (The Invocators Of Demons/Holy Breath) have created everything throughout their read and write his-story/her-story and everything that they have created is for the purposes of gaining power and control over MAN.

Two or so years ago Arthur caught one of them, a living-sensory MAN in business clothing outside an office, trying to get into his thoughts through the water of our breath as in remote viewing, remote projection, remote control. He feels that this Almighty-High-Priest was checking to see how the "spells" were working and what hold they still had on him, as well as seeking more information about who Arthur is, what his intentions/dreams/passion are. They don't want anyone to wake up from underneath their Image-Power because the word-of-mouth of insightful, direct-experience, of truth spreads and breaks the hold over everyone else, just as people are starting to really wake up all across Earth.

An Age Old Curse

In reference to this post, Terry Allen said on Facebook "today": "Interesting some of the Gnostics taught we are in Hell and that we are all dead. The reason they were persecuted and extinguished by Rome, was because they taught that in order to end the suffering we had to stop procreating. When I was younger, before having ever read the Gnostics I used to wonder if we are really all dead and is this hell."

This shows how long this problem has been known about and how long MAN has been trying to break away from the "holy-breath-spells" and also how long the Priests have been creating "spells" for us to fall into. Notice how they have hijacked the MAN who lived long ago and who talked about love, humility, and no system has been turned into system image power through the creation of the "name", Jesus, and how they have twisted the story of a simple MAN to get us lost in the story telling that keeps us trapped through the generations, creating their almighty power and control religions, far removed from the message of the great man who chided us for our greed and selfishness and apathy.

The Gnostics were simple people living amongst nature, not under the image power of another MAN. They knew that every MAN is sacred and that nature is sacred, created in the true image of Living-Creator. The level of brainwashing was less intensive then, with more overt power still in place. The Gnostics were tribal people, not educated under the "name" but, of course, their true-story has been hijacked too. They were warning people not to get sucked in and trying to protect all the children. We can't trust books because all books are written in the "name". The Gnostics were just men and women who saw the bullshit and tried to explain it, just as so many of us are doing today.

By the way the Go-Spell (gospel) is the Ghost Spell, the ghost being the demon that possesses those under its spell as intended by its maker. Go = setting into motion - we go to the spell to be ghosted (hooded/shrouded) by it as we set it into motion. The Ecclesiastical priests/servants of Satan call it the/their "Holy-Ghost". They revere their Holy Ghost because that is where they derive ALL their power from; the Holy Ghost is the multi millions of demons they craft out of black-magic, the demons being the hoods that cloak us. HOODS = BrotherHOOD, sisterHOOD, liveliHOOD, childHOOD, etc, etc. The HOOD is the demon, the "name".

When the "name" is "Christian", while the demon/holy-ghost maintains a power-grip over its victim, the drone acting under the demon/demonic "spell" of "Christian", carries out all the rituals/performances/slave-labour of the "name" Christian IN "THE SYSTEM" (not in nature which is part of no system). You don't go to Church or believe in the bible unless you are possessed by the "name" of "Christian". Possessed as in possesSION/possesZION. There are many, many, many "names" out there. The Holy Ghost works in many many wondrous and mysterious ways, so they say, but don't they mean the Holy Ghost goes under many, many wondrous and mysterious "names"? Almighty "names" such as JeZeus and Odin, etc, etc...................... All are at the center of "The System", Freemasonic/Satanic crafted civilisations as recorded across their his-story rooted in "time-codes".

There is no stairway to heaven where some have more exclusivity and privilege than others because of the "spell" they believe in. There are no special prizes for those who excel at learning intellectual property. Children already have it all; they don't need education, they need us to let nature bring them up.

Spelling The Spells

It's great to see the info we've been posting since 2005 (thanks to the wonderful help of a few men) is spreading far and wide and is being added to as it goes around and around...... Example of this 2005/2007 Love For Life work being expanded on...... (copied from FB wall).

"The first thing you learn when you go to school is how to spell. Words are spelled to create a sentence of terms. Think of a jail sentence or a prison term. The Wyrd sisters in Greek mythology were Fates or witches who controlled the fates of man. In our language we use curse words and cursive writing. We cuss and dis-cuss. Words have meaning and (are) mean things especially cross words. They can be used to make a point. We use a "con" verse to converse in order to keep us off course in our dis-course as a phrase frays. We use catch words. A story is a spiel or a spell. It is all part of the gospel of the Godspell or God's spell."

E-MAN

Name (in reverse) = e-man

E = ecclesiastical

E-man = Ecclesiastical man - a hue-man - a fallen man - their type of man = slave, drone, robot, commoner, serf, goi/goy, strawman, person, etc....

Hue = a shade or colour or type of MAN but is NOT MAN.

We are NOT a HUEman - we are MAN.

Deconstructing The Jesus Spell

- from a recent Facebook Posting

Let's say Jesus comes to Earth re-presenting the "Son Of God", the God of unconditional Love that is ALL the virtues of Love set into motion in present-sense. The virtues of love are compassion, empathy, trust, gentleness, kindness, sincerity, purity in intention, nurturing, do-no-harm, peace, freedom, truth, joy, abundance, no loss of uniqueness/originality, team-playing, equality, fairness, justice (not just-us), no slaves and rulers, no hijacking of free-will, unconditional support, certainty, etc, etc, etc, etc, and FULL-responsibility/liability (that is what the word "God" means to us) for everything we think, feel and do.

How will this Jesus, this FULL-embodiment of God, show up to be in every day practical-sense without sabotaging or undermining ANY of the virtues of unconditional love that re-present God's almighty glory? Unconditional love is true freedom, is the embodiment of free will. There is no free will when love and life is conditional. This is not free will.

How can a Jesus/JeZeus come and wave a magic wand to right all our sins without completely invalidating our freewill?

If this is what we hope for and accept, we are saying that our almighty, all loving God is conditional, is less than love and wants us to be less than God, less powerful, less conscious, less loving than God, preferring to keep us as puppets on a string, slaves to God, sucking on the nipples of God like weaklings, incapable of standing on our two feet, in-valids. This means that we have all been invalidated from the moment of our creation.

What kind of God is this?

And just how pleased is Jesus going to be when he realises that he died in vain because we are causing even more havoc to Earth that God created from unconditional love than before, and that we are so greedy and selfish we would rather destroy everything, including our bodies and who we really are than do something about the destruction we are causing? Is this not sinning?

We would rather eat chocolate and Maccas, smoke, drink and take drugs, build filthy factories that spew out poison and indulge in shadow, reflection thoughts than clean up our harm doing, lying thoughts, feelings, actions and Earth.

All the parents we've met over the years ALL dream for their children to do better than them. This is a natural sign of the Almighty virtues of unconditional, unselfish love at play here! What about the Almighty God ----- do you think that the Almighty God of unconditional love would dream for "his" children to be always less than him, never to be as great as "God", or do you think a God of unconditional love would dream for his children to be greater than even God? Again, all the signs of the virtues of love at play.

Isn't it obvious that the full-responsibility for setting