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His-Story/Her-Story (History) by Arthur Cristian - Love For Life - 2005-2007 - Reposted 5th July 2014

The Cristian Family November 2006

His-Story/Her-Story (History)


Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
2005-2007
Re-posted and edited 5th July 2014

Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8529

Copied from here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8528

Much of his-story/her-story, ancient or not, has been twisted and unless you can rout out all the lies/liars you will be thinking that everything you are reading is true and this is how you become brainwashed - nothing to learn from brainwashing.

Were you there?

Do you know any sensory-living 1st party you can bring forward who was there? And we're not talking about a brainwashed drone coming forward acting under costume and title, or not, as a 3rd party re-presentative of whatever his-story/her-story they claim to be true.

Up to roughly 1780AD, 99.99% of the total population of MAN all across Earth could not read or write any alphabet language. Even up to 1930AD still more than 90% of the population of MAN all across earth were illiterate to alphabet languages. Of today's supposed 6.7 to 7 billion population of MAN, none of their ancestors going back through all recorded his-story/her-story had ANYTHING to do with recording it because they were not able to read and write any alphabet language; they ONLY had their tribal/village sounds, tongues, talk, songs, arts, hand-body gestures, etc.....

When serfs/commoners/renters (slaves) went to war* to fight for their land-lords, land-barons, Kings/Queens, etc, etc, on the front-line of battle, their masters were the ones talking in Greek, Latin, Hebrew, Old English, etc, all of which was Martian-talk/gobbledygook to the serfs.

The ONLY ones who could read and write to record his-story/her-story were the owners of the castles, the land-lords, land-barons, the royal families, aristocrats, the high-priest-hoods and all their scribes and lackeys and they re-presented roughly 20 per one million of the population of MAN going back through ALL recorded his-story/her-story.

The victors wrote ALL the his-story/her-story and it is biased to suit their short and long-term objectives/agendas. It was ONLY these privileged "chosen-ones" who recorded ALL his-story/her-story so no matter what version of alphabet-language history you dive into it was recorded by them. This is FACT.

It takes the better part of 20 years to master the "craft" and "practice" of an alphabet language and this includes mastering mathematics and geometry/sacred geometry (fictitious rules of the divide as in measurements, time, space, levels, planes, dimensions, etc.). All read and write alphabet languages are crafted out of mathematics and geometry/sacred geometry and are all abominations and make-believe. None of them are real or true - they are not our true tongue (song/dream of life).

We are all the descendants of tribes of MAN all across Earth who were invaded, raped, pillaged, plundered, humiliated, ridiculed, abused, decimated, destroyed, and the victims of vast genocide campaigns. What remained of our ancestral tribes were mainly deeply traumatised children who were brainwashed into their conqueror's version of their ancestors his-story/her-story so that, through the generations, they would completely lose connection, direct experience, with their ancestral tongues, nature and song/word-of-mouth truths.

Instead of being left to form their unique, original relationships with nature and having access to all of consciousness, the information of sensory- life, always, they were taught to think and feel what other men and women told them to think and feel. For example, they were told that the sensory-life form over there is a yellow flower and it is a daffodil that does this and that. They were provided with a scientific explanation for everything that they would normally learn about through direct, sensory experience that forms our unique dreams and ideas that are our living-present-sense-consciousness.

Through the generations of Satanic*/Freemasonic infiltrations/invasions they conned/brainwashed tribes of MAN into believing they are part of the race, culture and creed of English, French, Spanish, Australian, American, Arab, Muslim, Jew, etc, and even went about breaking down the past, present & future of race, culture and creed into all the different types/sects/cults/orders/states of Jews, Arabs, Christians, Australians, Americans, etc, as in Conservative Jew, Crypto Jew, Humanist Jew, Orthodox Jew, Ashkenazim Jew, Protestant Christian, Roman Catholic Christian, Seventh Day Adventist, Mormon, Jehovah Witness, Afro Arab, Levantine Arab, Gulf Arab, Arabian Arab, Texan, New Yorker, Queenslander, New South Welshman, etc, etc, and then the layers of race, culture and creed are broken down again and again and again into regions, suburbs, classes, standings, careers, titles, status, etc, etc, = Multiculturalism = RULES OF THE DIVIDE = DIVIDE AND CONQUER = Shattered Reality.

* Satanic - To us, Satanism is the black-magic practised craft of creating fairytales/fantasies and conning men, women and children into believing they are real and true. This belief leads them to accept the power and authority over them of all the men, women and children, under the costumes and titles of these make-believe characters performed in the fairytale, as being real, true and powerful too.

Coupled with the indoctrination into religions, occults, esoterics and myths that taught them that there was an almighty God/s, Higher Powers/Beings/Forces who is/are responsible for everything and that there was a beginning to sensory life and there will be an end, the tribes connection with who they really were as MAN in the dream of life was almost completely severed and is still almost completely severed with most of us living lives of shattered reality. (Our next post "Separating The Wheat From The Chaff" July/August 2014 goes deeply into the subject of a shattered reality)

The thing to realise here is that the sensory-life-form did not tell us directly that it was yellow and called a daffodil. These ideas were taught to us by other men and women, who were taught by other men and women. So it goes through every aspect of "The System". We, through this shattered reality, act as impostors of everything we talk about, placing our opinions and feelings about it over the natural-sensory-information that the sensory-life-forms have to communicate directly with us. Education (NON-SENSE) disconnects us from sensory life all around us because we are now under the image power of other men and women telling us how to think, feel and act. All of this is covered in far more detail in the articles, videos, debates, etc, found in the sequential order listed below.

We were all dreamt to be unique, original MAN but this cannot happen when we are instructed or educated about anything of nature (including celestial bodies) and MAN. The thought of freedom is not freedom. The thought of consciousness is not consciousness. This is because they are just the ideas of a freedom and of a consciousness that have been put into your head by others. They are not unique and original to you, they are alien as part of an alien invasion, not from outer space but through man-made brain control. The thought of God/spirit is not God/spirit. There is NO DIRECT SENSORY EXPERIENCE with the thought of a God or of a spirit explained to us by another man or woman.

When you go to a supermarket, do you have freedom or choice? Obviously, you just have choice and the same goes for religions, New Age philosophies, and EVERY philosophy, occult, esoteric, of "The System". The whole of "The System" is based on choice. There is no freedom here because you/we have been shut down from our ability to create unique, original lives/dreams that expand and demonstrate our unique, original lives/dreams.

There is no sensory, living life form as a first party in astrology, numerology, etc, coming forward to say that they are astrology and they exist as a sensory-living-life-form. We cannot hear/sense it directly from their tongue. All we can have are men and women coming forward acting as third party impostors to re-present astrology, and through the water of MANS breath, are putting us under the image power of astrology so that we form our fictitious lives in its fictitious image. (The Water Of MANS breath is explained in the Love For Life Sequential Order in great detail)

If you read the story of Alice in Wonderland to an innocent child over and over again, the child will begin to play Alice in Wonderland and act out the story. But no matter how often she may play Alice in Wonderland, Alice will NEVER be present with the presence of life. We will never be able to directly sense her, only the living child who is portraying Alice. Alice does NOT exist in PRESENT-SENSE, only the child (MAN) exists in present-sense. Alice is NON-SENSE - Wonderland is NON-SENSE. Alice needs MANS presence of life to give the illusion that Alice is present amongst the living. Anyone who believes Alice exists is lying.

All of MAN lost in the belief that they are Christians, Buddhists, Muslims, Jews, Conscious, Liberals, Atheists, Lawyers, Judges, Senators, Prime Ministers, Presidents, Popes, Archbishops, Priests, Professors, Educators, Academics, Experts, Scientists, etc, etc, are lying too. This includes all those who claim that money, commerce, law, natural law, God, Aliens, UFO's, etc, etc, exist as sensory-living-life-forms. They are ALL MAN-made con-structs/concepts/inventions/manipulations/psyops programs. None of them have a natural purpose for the dream of life.

"The System" is a system of storytelling that we have been educated (brainwashed) into, just as we educate our children into Alice in Wonderland. This is how we "conquer" our children by getting them to accept the characters of Alice, the Mad Hatter, etc, as real, just as we are educated to believe in law, government, religion, system science, etc, so that we accept the power and control of these fictitious, man-made constructs/concepts over our lives.

However, a, b, c, 1, 2, 3, compass, square, (geometry, etc) can NEVER come forward as sensory, living life forms to back our claims that they exist as first parties. They do not exist. We, MAN, are the only first parties acting as impostors of these third party imaginings. We are lost in the story telling of a make-believe fantasy. This is what has become of all of us in "The System" of Wonderland, each of us being Alice acting with stage and props. We have all been conquered by the education that was forced upon us by the invaders of alien, make-believe realities, all flesh and blood men and women, our living, first party brothers and sisters of MAN who turned against us all.

No MAN is master of another MAN because all men are equal, but we have been persuaded to give up our equality (unique/original co-creators of the dream of life) to accept the fictitious authority of another MAN, acting under costume and title, over our real lives. This is all done through "name", starting with the birth certificate. The "name" is the "mark of the beast", that is "The System". "The System" is a "name" of many, many, many, many "names" all of which was educated (indoctrinated) into you. None of it is real or true. Supermarkets are "names" full of "names", as are the libraries, the universities, the cities, the suburbs, the roads, courts, religions, etc. All of it is fraud. None of it is natural.

These are psyops programs that were started by the invaders who conquered our ancestors so that they could control them and their descendants, us. "The System" is trauma based and everything of "The System" are reactions to trauma as a result of the spells that compel us to perform the invaders instructions of the psyops programs.

E-Motions are these compelling psyops programs set into motion as the effects of E-Go by victims under the image-power of black-magic. The letter E is a code/symbol for ECCLESIASTICAL. Motion (e-motion) and Go (e-go) are the Freemasonic/Satanic black-magic high-priests/priestesses instruction (psyops) programs provided as a choice for their brain-controlled drones, robots, slaves, to follow. E-Motion and E-Go are reactions to trauma. They are trauma based because they are unnatural thoughts and motions that were implanted into us through unnatural means. Refer to the Love For Life Sequential Order for more on all this.

The invaders of MAN first came as missionaries, scientists, botanists, surveyors, geologists, historians, etc, etc, and they came and went for up to 200 years recording and documenting the tongues, customs, ways-of-life, natural environment, etc, etc. When they had finished recording all their his-story/her-story they then sent in their warships and armies to decimate the tribes. This happened all-across-Earth, all over Europe, Americas, Asia-Pacific regions, etc, etc. All the Royal families of Europa are all the "SAME" bloodlines and all are under the power and control of the Freemasonic/Satanic world led by high-priests/priestesses who created ALL religions, philosophies, civilisations, cults, sects, races, occults, esoterics, "system science", etc, known throughout all recorded his-story/her-story.

The British Empire, not the slaves/drones/commoners/serfs, etc, under Britain, is the head, "The Crown" of "The System" of the Western World that conquered almost all of Earth, if not ALL, and it is still in power today. It controls America (war over America's Independence was orchestrated by Freemasons on all sides - all working together behind the scenes), Russia (Bolshevik revolution funded by British controlled Wall Street), China (it took 300 years through the East India company and the opium wars to conquer China - the British Empire is still in power all over Asia), Canada, NZ, Australia, Japan (thanks to 2nd world war), Brazil, Argentina, Africa, India, etc, etc....... all of it.

When they conquered lands such as Australia, the high-priests/priestesses carved up all the lands into parish lands and put a church in every parish and a priest in every church to deal with the original sinners (processors of curses that are the lies in/of "name" that have us commit fraud = born into original sin). It does not matter if the church is Protestant, Catholic, etc, they are ALL 100% controlled by the Freemasonic/Satanic world. Can we trust their history after all the effort they put into brainwashing men, women and children everywhere leading to all the invasions and wars that have murdered over 100 billion men, women, children. This includes all the poisons, toxins, chemicals, eugenics, plagues, pestilence, vaccinations, weapons of mass destruction, agriculture, eating animals, dairy products, processed wheat, etc, (highly dangerous to our bodies), etc, etc, etc, they brought with them throughout all their sojourns across Earth under the guise of Ancient Egypt, Greece, Rome, Babylon, Persia, Assyria, China, Aztec, Maya, Inca, Sanskrit, etc, etc.

All these civilisations had read and write alphabet languages, mathematics and geometry/sacred-geometry and they all had royal families divinely appointed by God, high-priest-hoods divinely appointed by God and the rule of law of God divinely appointed by God. WHAT A COINCIDENCE. There is nothing natural about any of this and they all require extensive brainwashing-education to understand the make-believe con-structs they all are. You can change the "name" royal families, high-priest-hoods, God, Zeus, Odin, etc to EU, NATO, WTO, WHO, UN, NWO, America, President, Prime Minister, Director, CEO, Senator, Treasurer, Professor, Academic, Bankster, Emperor, Dictator, Caesar, etc, etc, etc,......... it's all the same non-sense rubbish used under different guises throughout all their systems of civilisations. All are of "The System", their systems designed to maintain power and control over their captive slaves, generation after generation after generation..... this says it all.

In their recorded "ages" of their his-story/her-story, the late 1100's/early 1200's, they started creating English primarily out of hieroglyphics/pictorial-mathematics, Hebrew, Greek, Latin, etc, and they called English THE NEW WORLD LANGUAGE (the alphabet language of the New World Order planned from long ago = Je-Zeus/Je-Seus prophesised golden reign of 1000 years). The letter j/J did not exist until roughly 1520AD. It appears that j/J was first used by Freemason/Satanist Francis Bacon alias William Shakespeare with the word Jew. Words such as Jesus came out of Lesus which came out of Iesus/iesus which came out of Isis = Land Lord/Land-Baron/Pharaoh/etc ruling over serfs/commoners/slaves/etc. NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

English was crafted by French Judeo-Judaic Architects/draftsmen of law, what you refer to as Gods = judges, barristers, lawyers, politicians, etc... They (all the chosen ones of their cabal) are the Gods of English, the gods over all the brainwashed/educated slaves. Welcome to Alice in Wonderland Through The Looking Glass - Welcome To Dorothy Down The Yellow Brick Road In The Land Of Oz.

ALL BOOKS ARE ABOMINATIONS - ALL ALPHABET LANGUAGES ARE ABOMINATIONS - ALL NUMERICS ARE ABOMINATIONS - they were all crafted for PSYOPS PROGRAMMING - There is no other purpose for them. While anyone believes in this non-sense they become the abomination too.

Find a book, scroll, papyri, tablet, alphabet language, mathematics, geometry/sacred geometry, recorded history, not part of "The System" of those/any recorded "ages". Can you do that? If you can't then this clearly reveals to you DARKNESS VISIBLE, demonstrating just how big this grand deception is and has been.

Every letter (image/picture/sound) of all alphabet languages is an incantation designed to craft "spells" set into motion by fallen/conned-MAN. They only operate as echoes between the ears. Every English letter has a meaning/sound/code/story/picture/symbol (hieroglyphics) not taught to the duped. These codes were provided ONLY for those with the privilege of being initiated into such deeply kept secrets. They taught you to "spell" (the echoes) to put you under their "spells" (spellings). Spells are ONLY echoes bouncing too and fro between your/our ears as apparitions, demons, phantoms, etc, all of which are man-made constructs/concepts = psyops programs. As con-structs/con-cepts have no natural home/purpose for the dream of life (nature/earth) and therefore are not natural sensory life-forms experienced directly in nature, they can ONLY operate unnaturally between your ears as echoes.

* Note: copied from here: Another Delusion - Arthur Cristian - Love For Life - 11th June 2014 - http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8526 - "The common law people fight for was the Land Lords, Land Barons, Kings And Queens, High-Priest-Hoods, Aristocracy laws. The serfs and commoners did not exist as REAL MAN on land, they were not even on their radar. They were seen as goi/goy/animals with NO Rights. They had to work very hard to provide a large % of their produce each season or they worked as labourers, etc, on their masters land-holdings or went to war with their land-barons to pay their "dues" as renters = slaves. If they did not meet their masters demands most serfs/commoners were threatened or terribly harmed or booted off their masters lands or even murdered. Those who remained were forced to leave to find another land-lord/owner of the castle to take them in and slave for. Common Law is in commerce (unnaturally e-motionally compelled life-energy/labour exchange between MAN = slavery). Common Law was ONLY for the "establishment". The slaves/animals had no laws/rights. They could not read or write to comprehend and have "rights" outside of a common law."

When we realise what is really going on, we fully comprehend that everything we see/sense (touch, taste, feel, smell hear, see = direct sensory experience, first party to first party) of nature including celestial bodies is true/real for us but everything explained/instructed/indoctrinated/educated to us by other 3rd parties (men, women, children) about what we directly see/sense is not. It is fraud and are lies. We have all been mis-led.

Direct experience is SENSORY

Non-Direct-Experience is NON-SENSORY = NON-SENSE

The whole of "The System" education is fraud, is all about men, women and children trained to act as impostors of 1st parties. It is all about hijacking/kidnapping the natural characters of first party sensory-life-forms so we can impersonate them, claiming what we say about them is information coming directly from the first party sensory life-forms we re-present when in fact we are lying because we either made it all up as make-believe or are repeaters of make-believe storytelling passed on to us by other 3rd party impostors.

The whole of "The System" and everything of it is FRAUD.

We, MAN, were never meant to be educated (brainwashed) about anything. 3rd party re-presentations are just thoughts/ideas/pictures bouncing to and fro between your/our ears as echoes. They are apparitions, ghosts, phantoms of make-believe = fantasy, illusion and delusion. Make-believe does not exist. Make-believe is NOT proof of fact.

Where can millions of innocent children not exposed to "The System" or exposed to anyone exposed to "The System" go anywhere in nature (including celestial bodies) to learn about a, b, c, 1, 2, 3, compass, square (geometry = measurements, etc) occults, esoterics, government, law, religion, etc, and every other make-believe thought/idea/picture derived from them.......... without someone already got at (brainwashed) having to explain/educate/instruct/re-present it all to them?

Bring forward any Christian, Jew, Buddhist, Muslim, New Ager, atheist, scientist, Greek, Jew, Australian, American, Canadian, etc, etc, who is not a slave in "The System". This includes your parents and ancestors going back through all recorded his-story/her-story. You won't be able to because all the Holy Books, Scrolls, Papyri, Tablets and philosophies and ideas of "The System" are a testament to the enslavement of MAN under the image power of the psyops programs of these black magic priests and priestesses. How many thoughts that you think and experience as e-motions are unique and original to you? If you are pure and sincere in your intentions you will see/sense that we are all deeply compromised as educated-(brain-controlled)-slaves.

E-MAN - The Name Of The Beast Is MAN by Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 9th May 2014

The Cristian Family November 2006

E-MAN
The Name Of The Beast Is MAN


Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 9th May 2014
Uploaded 25th June 2014

Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8528

We quickly put together this post using bits and pieces of posts we put up over the "past" few "days". All together it clearly explains what is exactly going on behind the works of Santos Bonacci, Dalai Lana, David Icke, Kate Of Gaia, Max Igan, etc...... :)

The E-MAN is the hue-MAN, the fallen MAN under the "spell" of the "ecclesiastical orders" of black-magic priests, priestesses, warlocks, witches, sorcerers, found behind ALL religions, New Age, Commerce, Politics, Law/The Bar, Civilisations = "The System", Education, Universities, System Science, System Thought, Mathematics, Geometry/Sacred Geometry, Read & Write Alphabet Languages, Recorded His-Story/Her-Story, Philosophies (all are rooted in "The System"), etc, etc, all of which are PSYOP PROGRAMS for drones to perform under.

The E-MAN/Ecclesiastical MAN is the priests slave, drone robot = the hue-MAN.

The word "NAME" reversed is E-MAN

The "NAME" is the E-GO - the ecclesiastical instruction/program crafted and encoded in/as a demon to possesses you under "NAME'.

The word E-GO reversed is OGE (with a silent R) = OGER = "A giant or monster in legends and fairy tales that eats humans. 2. A person who is felt to be particularly cruel, brutish, or hideous."

E-GO - E = Ecclesiastical - GO = "to move or proceed, especially to or from something: They're going by bus." The E-GO is a Freemasonic/Satanic High Priest invented instruction program for fallen-MAN. This is no different to installing a disk into a robot providing it with an instructional performance program. The E-GO is an "educated" man-made drone, robot, slave, set into motion under the influence of "name".

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"The Name Of The Beast Is MAN".

E-MAN reversed is NAM-E (name)
e = ecclesiastical man (as in hue-man or person or strawman, etc)

The "name" is the mark of the beast = fallen-MAN lost in hell that is "The System" of "names".

1, 2, 3, a, b, c, compass, square are words = "names" and everything derived from them are "names"/words too.

The supermarket is full of "names" within many, many, many "names".

The cities and suburbs and roads/highways are "names" within many, many, many "names".

The libraries are full of "names" within many, many, many "names".

Government/politics, religions/holy books, the law/the bar/the rule of law and all their recorded his-story/her-story including precedence, bills, sayings, rituals, procedures, etc, are "names" within many, many, many "names".

The education, schools, universities with all their courses, careers, titles, standings, degrees are "names" within many, many, many "names".

"System Science" and all occults and esoterics are "names" within many, many, many "names".

Media, Hollywood, Radio, Internet, TV, Telecommunication, Electronics, Digital, etc, Transmissions/Communications are "names" within many, many, many, "names".

The System" is a "name" within many, many, many, many, many, many, "names". All of it is fraud and lies.

All letters, words, sentences, paragraphs, etc, etc, are FRAUD and LIES. There is no direct experience with the living (sensory-living-life-forms of nature/earth/MAN). They are ALWAYS in and of 3rd party. They are never in present-sense - the presence of life is NOT present to them. They cannot be sensed by the living (of sense/senses). They all need actors/re-presentatives (3rd parties) performing as impostors of them to give the impression they are first parties but this is a lie, is fraud.

Which is real, Santa Clause, Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny, 1, 2, 3, a, b, c, compass, square, "God", Galactic Federation, Supreme Court, Christian, Muslim, Jew, Buddhist, Macquarie Bank, etc, etc, or the living child/MAN acting as Santa Clause, Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny, 1, 2, 3, a, b, c, compass, square, "God", Galactic Federation, Supreme Court, Christian, Muslim, Jew, Buddhist, Macquarie Bank, etc, etc?

Did the sensory-life-form tell you it was a Daffodil and is Yellow or did another fallen-MAN put these letters, words, sentences, explanations/education/instruction.brainwashing/con-structs/con-cepts, etc, (The Daffodil Is Yellow, etc) in your head?

What you see/sense through direct sensory experience in nature (including celestial bodies) is true but all the explanations/education/instruction bouncing to and fro between your ears is not. It is best to let sensory-life-forms share the truth of their purpose for the Dream Of Life/Nature/Earth/MAN with you through direct sensory-experience, first party to first party. "The System" education/explanation/instruction/brainwashing/indoctrination is just the bullshit others have projected between our ears and are now bouncing to and fro as echoes of non-sense. This information does not come directly from the sensory-life-forms, instead was derived from 3rd party impostors who hijacked sensory-life-forms so they can impersonate them, claiming the information they are sharing is coming from the sensory life-forms when in fact they are blatantly lying because they made it all up (make-believe). There is no direct sensory experience here. We (MAN) were never meant to be educated (brainwashed).

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Under demon spells that is a trance "state" caused by demonic possession (possesSION/possesZION), the "name" of victims are under the IMAGE POWER of "NAME".

Via remote control, remote viewing & remote projection of non-sensory images*** slaves are under the image-power and image-control of any and ALL ecclesiastical orders of Satanism/Freemasonry (E) - they instruct/guide (GO) their captured slaves to do whatever they want them (COMPELLED) to do.

*** (books, history, fairytales, myths, legends, religions, astrology, numerology, astrotheology, mathematics, alphabets, geometry/sacred geometry, astronomy, "system science", alchemy, all occults, esoterics and all university/uni-verse-i-ty courses/careers, titles, standings, costumes, etc, etc, basically everything of "The System" coming from recorded ancient "times" until "today" - this includes the "name" of plant, creature, insect, natural elements in soil, water and air, environment, landscape, horizon, celestial bodies, anything that has a "name" = "word"/"letter"/"number"/"angle/"shape"/"dimension"/level"/"measurement"/"time"/"space"/"distance"/"location"/etc, etc, etc, etc,......)

They always provide a wonderland setting (the matrix/"The System"/all-civilisations) for their Alice-slave to enter through the looking glass of their image-power and image-control. These demonic images bouncing to and fro between the ears as e-chos (cho = resonating frequency of a chord/sound/word) are forecast from a "past" and projected into a "future" to enslave the victim (self-fulfilling) in their wonderland-matrix here and now ,in present-sense. The "name" is found throughout everything listed here ***. This clearly tells you what is really going on.

The "NAME" is the DEMON and is the HOOD of the brotherHOOD/sisterHOOD to cloak victims, educated-slaves, with.

The demon, "name", e-go, is the marionette and the ecclesiastical order is the master puppeteer/s.

The "NAME" is ALWAYS under the administrative control of the E-STATE, the ecclesiastical "state", both as the real-estate (the "intellectual property, superimposed over land) and the brainwashing/braindirtying psychological "state" (the IMAGE POWER) a victim is under.

Under the power and control of the real e-"state" of "New South Wales" or "California", the Freemasonic/Satanic ecclesiastical order/s will issue a slave, whose holy-breath is losing its grip, a psycho order.

Now the drone is under the horrific maintenance care of brainwashed robots called psychiatrists/psychologists, who work for the E-STATE, to adjust and tighten up the slave's holy breath, the e-go, the "e-man", and if required, administer (add a minister = priests) psychotic drugs approved by the Freemasonic/Satanic ministers of the "e-state", as part of the correctional psycho orders issued by the Freemasonic/Satanic (ecclesiastical) judges of the e-state.

Once all is well and back to "normal", the slave is released back into the money supply to continue performing in commerce (processing curses) with all other slaves under the image-power ("name") of the e-"state".

The "name" is NOT MAN, is not MANS.

The E-GO is THE HOLY BREATH crafted by the ecclesiastical orders.

"The System" of govern-MEN-t, law, religion, commerce, money, insurance, university, etc, etc, etc, EVERYTHING of "The System", is the matrix of the E-STATE which was crafted out of black-magic for the "soul" purpose of assimilating captured babies/children of MAN into drones, the e-mans or hue-mans - and be enslaved under the power and control of ecclesiastical orders for a life-"time".

They do not want anyone to e-s-cape.

Cape = the cape of the holy breath must remain on forevermore.

Escape - scape = Scape definition, a leafless peduncle rising from the ground. Note leafless implying living-dead.

An example of this deception looking through another window into their matrix....

PHONETICS - phon-e-tics -------- LOLLLLLL

e = ecclesiastical (black-magic warlock instruction)

phon = A unit of apparent loudness, equal in number to the intensity in decibels of a 1,000-hertz tone perceived to be as loud as the sound being measured

tic = A tic is a sudden, repetitive, nonrhythmic motor movement or vocalization involving discrete muscle groups. Tics can be invisible to the observer, such as abdominal tensing or toe crunching. Common motor and phonic tics are, respectively, eye blinking and throat clearing. Tics must be distinguished from movements of other movement disorders such as chorea, dystonia, myoclonus; movements exhibited in stereotypic movement disorder or some people with autism; and the compulsions of obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) and seizure activity.

ph = In chemistry, pH (/piː eɪtʃ/ or /piː heɪtʃ/) is a measure of the acidity or basicity of an aqueous solution.

The pH scale is traceable to a set of standard solutions whose pH is established by international agreement. pH measurements are important in medicine, biology, chemistry, agriculture, forestry, food science, environmental science, oceanography, civil engineering, chemical engineering, nutrition, water treatment & water purification, and many other applications. Mathematically, pH is the negative logarithm of the activity of the (solvated) hydronium ion, more often expressed as the measure of the hydronium ion concentration.

PH also means a "state" of brainwashing in practise (set into motion)...... "I have a PH'd in such and such......

You can easily see/sense how phonetics describes a brainwashed drone under the pull of e-motion instruction (image-power) coming remotely from the story-tellers of black-magic as in Satanic/Freemasonic warlocks, witches, high-priestHOODS, priestesses).

Everything to do with E-MAN is DARKNESS, is of HELL, is spiritual suicide to MAN and is "self"-centeredness and to do with DOING HARM.

English is Hieroglyphics, each letter is a picture encompassing an ecclesiastical motion, this is not disregarding the codes of meanings used to communicate an "illumined light" (double-speak/triple-speak) between the initiated into such secrets.

The separation of the ways has begun.

Everyone has the choice between eternal life and eternal death.

Those who choose to worship the lie ("name" and everything of "name" = "The System") are being culled.

They will no longer exist.

Only those who choose eternal life will sacrifice everything of "self"/"name"/ego to co-create Kindom in present-sense. They will be the ONLY ones who will make it - they are being protected.

Unless the free-will of MAN changes, not many of us will live to move on - a vast culling has began and all those involved in the lie will be drawn to where they need to be to be culled.

It is very very simple.

All those who live for truth will be drawn to where they need to be to avoid the culling process of the earth fever.

E-motional attachments to family, friends, children, location will only keep victims trapped and be part of the culling.

The separation of the ways has begun.

There is no turning back.

Those who live for dream of life (truth) need to start making the moves.

We have less than 5 years and we will not be surprised if it is now less than two years.

David Icke, Santos Bonacci, Swissindo, OPPT, Thrive, Zeitgeist, Occupy, The Bible, The Torah, The Talmud, The Koran, The Baghdad Gitas, etc, etc, etc, etc, are all part of the problem. They do not offer a remedy to depart from "name" forevermore.

They do not show you how to leave "name" forevermore.

Let them go and everyone else living the lie and don't be like Lots wife.

Earth as we know it is going through a massive change and it is brought on by MANS dreaming, a dream for change that started with a simple, peaceful, loving, do no harm way of life, MAN of "long-ago", now being fulfilled/concluded during the Freemasonic/Satanic engineered/crafted "end-times".

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Arthur Cristian

The "name"/word humanity = hue-MAN-i-ty is a fallen-MAN who sees the reflection of fallen-MAN through "i" as in all seeing eye (i). The hue in hu-man is a shade, colour, type, shadow, reflection of a MAN but is NOT MAN. Wholeness is true consciousness, has no separation and therefore can't be got at naturally/consciously, but through lies of duality, illusions are provided on offer by Satanists/Freemasons, for men, women and children to fantasise over.

While lost in the play of make-believe MAN can imagine that MAN is broken down into spirit, mind and body which con-structs (structures of the con) the illusory rules of the divide allowing lies to enter into the fantasy game causing MAN to create the delusion of a conflict that does not exist but while lost to such psychosis, it leads MAN to completely break down wholeness/consciousness through unnatural (non-sensory)/unconscious means.

The manipulation through the use of trauma and the reactions to trauma is what brings all conflicts to a head. (HEAD) The black-magic sorcerers of Satanism/Freemasonry intended conflict to be this way.

Using your senses (touch, taste, feel, smell, hear, see) have you ever sensed a "mind"? Have you ever had a direct experience with "mind"....... myyyyyyyy ....... iiiiiiiiiiiii ........ .nnnnnnnnnn...dddddddddddd - Are you aware that "mind" does not exist?

People who have really woken up are NOT against anything or anyone - only the LOST are against an assumed foe/enemy. Those who have really woken up embrace everyone no matter what the circumstance and they do this while remaining grounded, vigilant and discerning. They are not lost to flights of fantasy and THEY DO NOT REACT TO TRAUMA.

They are not being led by darkness/lies/fantasies/illusions/delusions/trauma/etc.

The see/sense life without the use of rose coloured glasses.

They are realists.

They create light for those lost to the darkness to return to.

They are not part of the darkness.

They do not run from the darkness instead they bring light into the darkness to dissolve it.

They will relentlessly confront darkness without ever being part of darkness.

They never run away from darkness, they are far more together/powerful than that.

To expand on these themes in greater detail please read and watch the Sequential order of Love For Life videos, articles, debates, etc, which can be found here:

Godzilla Through The Looking Glass
Destroyed By "Name"

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
20th April 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514

All the best
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

The Cristian Family November 2006

Extract From The Facebook Discussion
About The Video Of
The Mountain Man Arrested

Link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203651756842542

Note: Full copy of this Mountain Man discussion copied below.

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Simon Kawai said:

"I may agree with you Fiona (?) that said my question was more an immediate explanation of why the Mountain Man was wronged. We can speculate as to whether or not he filed papers, whether or not he created joinder with their name by some trick or artifice, whether or not he's registered assets to the system but for me the fact remains: MAN can get harmed and wronged by others, even those whom are given the very curses they try to dispense. We should learn about the significance of these things but to say he did xyz wrong while only knowing that the system applied a finding against one of it's names is speculative.

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We replied.........

Simon, the options have narrowed down to just a few possibilities/scenarios. It's clear that all lies are curses so we know that the whole of "The System" is the processing of a curse. We also know that you must be enjoindered for the curse to be processed.

The Mountain MAN is clearly enjoindered by "name" (refer to earlier posts in this thread for more on this) otherwise he would not volunteer to appear in court to be caught - if he really knew who he really was he would not be in the position that he's ended up in., he would have remained in silence and let them process the curse which is what the "great" MAN did long ago to the Romans, Pharisees, Sanhedrin, etc, etc. He knew he was not answerable to them.

Mountain MAN had a vested interest to protect "ownership" which is noted by his fight. If he did not "own" anything he would have nothing to fight for. Money, assets, etc enjoindered to "name".

There is also the possible scenario of carrying out instructions from superiors impacting law-enforcement, the bar, etc. They do want chaos, injustice, destruction, etc, etc, to get worse and worse everywhere as part of the final staged act to the prelude of their "end-times" self-fulfilling prophecies providing the launch pad excuse/justification to introduce their fantastic NWO remedy dressed up to smell like roses, etc, have everyone, the duped, jump for it.

It's clear that paper work in itself has no power no force of law, it was not paper that invaded all the lands and decimated all the tribes etc, etc and set up "The System" to maintain power and control over captured slaves and their progeny. Paper and whatever is scribbled or marked or stamped on it can't do this by itself, can't move from desk to desk to filing cabinet, etc.... Paper is a fiction just as the Easter Bunny is a fiction.

Mountain MAN may also have a history of dealing with the law and they decided to make an example of him, maybe the judge did not like how he treated her...... Does it rally matter all this speculation? The fact is harm is being done, curses are being processed and if we step back to see the big picture its clearly obvious that we just make/force harm doers process curses of their "own" making otherwise we either become just like them, harm-doers retaliating, etc, or we continue being compliant slaves hoping for a few mini-slave victories here and there while maintaining their slave status forevermore.

It is pretty simple for us - we just focus on harm-doers processing curses and not get caught up in the semantics, pedantic histrionics, fears, doubts, uncertainty, vagueness, confusion, etc, and the merry-go-round dramas of who did what, when where, how, why thus continue being trapped in the vicious cycle of a poor me victim syndrome reacting to trauma, to the pull of e-motion which is where they (Freemasons/Satanists) want you to be.

The thing with us Simon is in present-sense, we are already in the action/motion of creating remedy, of forcing harm doers to process curses of their "own" making. And we are vigilant and discerning to not let us be distracted from doing this day-after-day because if we did we would end up on the destroyed-broken-fallen-MAN gravy train going nowhere. No thanks. We come to true freedom with strength.

We don't come to freedom out of weakness which is what distractions, uncertainty, doubt, confusion, etc, does to you, it diminishes the concentration of power of your life-force energy being directed powerfully. We say use it powerfully here and now in present-sense to force them to quickly change their ways and once this Satanic/Freemasonic cabal has been completely busted wide open we provide sanctuary for all them fleeing from this terrible man-made hell that has made prisoners of everyone.

The main reason people go to court over statute "claims" is the reaction to trauma of having something they "claim" they "own" being taken from them down-the-line (the future being controlled by the past ruling the present), including garnishing bank accounts, stealing of assets such as a car, motor bike, computers, household furniture, electric guitar, home, land, etc, and even the physical body under the image-power of "name".

Then there is the trauma over loss of credit rating, obstructions put in place to stop them accessing gas, electricity, credit cards, etc, etc, and even the propaganda put in place that stops them getting employment down-the-line.

There are many types of reaction to trauma, the pull of e-motion that COMPELS a fallen-MAN to make a physical appearance at court, to be caught.

The fact that the Mountain MAN turned up is a blatant admittance that he is the "right party", the re-presentative of said "name" encoded on said "claim", that being the statute penalty being imposed (but actually on offer) upon "name".

At this point he has already been defeated. Now its all up to the judge/magi-strate to determine just how much of a curse the Mountain MAN will process but even this is set into motion by the Mountain MAN because the statute rulings and penalties were already advertised. The menu was already set. The magistrate just has to determine which item on the menu he can be persuaded to order.

The Mountain Man has taken the offer to process the curse. Everything in statute law is designed to make the victims process the curses and not the judges, barristers, etc.

Money/Commerce IS THE PROCESSING OF CURSES. Nothing else is going on.

As we said, ONLY a fallen-MAN would accept the authority, the power, the control of another MAN and therefore place their re-presentation of "name" under the standing of another MAN performing in the "name" with costume and title. This is already the processing of curses being set into motion.

This MAN, Arthur, will never go to their courts regardless of whatever "claims" they throw at this MAN. They will have to kidnap the physical body because an appearance any other way is admittance of claiming the "name". Arthur has no claims to the "name", and hasn't been making claims on the "name" since 2009 so they would have to come up with a scam, or make a claim that he has harmed someone as an excuse to drag the body in.

In the story of the Great MAN of long ago, he doesn't go to their courts until they take him there by force and then he remains silent.

He recognised that he was not of their world and had no need to go there, which forced the hand of the perpetrators as they had to go and kidnap his body and bring him before Rome, the Sandringham bloodlines and the pharisees, who were all in commerce, all colluding together to keep everyone under their power and control.

He didn't need to talk because they were not his masters and he did not accept their curses. Even before they took his body, he had already created a dream to return the curses. The dreaming of this dream by him and others who had woken up set into motion the downfall of Rome, with earthquakes, hurricanes, tsunamis, lands sinking and rising, volcanoes erupting, etc, etc, although you won't find the earth-wide extent of destruction recorded in their books in relation to the living-dream set into motion by the Great MAN.. (They had to keep all this secret, they did not want their recaptured educated slaves to remember the truth about curses and processing curses down-the-line - hence they created carbon dating, new "time codes" for calendars, revision/rewrite of all recorded his-story/her-story set to the "time codes" of BC and AD - make everything appear to have happened at different points of time, 10,000BC, 5000BC, 3000BC, 900BC, 33BC, 33AD, 150AD, 450AD, 1100AD, 1500AD, 1780AD, 1845AD, etc, etc = all bullshit)

Why do we say this then? Look at what we and others are doing now to turn back the curses and remove this evil system from Earth. Unless we get remedy happening, we will be in for wild weather too, as Earth corrects the balance.

All paperwork and filing is an admittance that you are their slave to "name" and that you accept their power and authority over you, accepted Rome and Babylon, accepted the curse. Even when you are talking to the representatives, the clerks, etc, you are accepting everything of "The System" by default. You cannot be in "The System" and not of it, UNLESS you give up everything of "name", in and of "The System". This is where the freeman/sovereignty movement shows up as just another Yellow Brick Road.

Now comes the issue of greed and selfishness, fear and uncertainty as people wrestle with the idea of giving their system comforts and privileges up, including the "protection" that comes from the system lackeys. And laziness because most people don't want to do the work needed to get out. They want the bells and whistles but they don't want to be answerable to those providing the privileges. And so the life of slave to "name" defaults, defaults, defaults, defaults, defaults to the slave masters every moment in every area of their system life. Trapped - trapped - trapped - trapped - and winging and whining and moaning and groaning and complaining and arguing and fighting and reacting to trauma as the rot of being a fallen-MAN continues descending further and further and down and down and down into this man("self")-made darkness called HELL, "The System".

Simon, this was how Mountain MAN brought it upon him"self" ("name").

Again, please read the posts we put up this year as found in the Sequential Order. :)

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Dominic Toomey

no name eman on

7th May 2014

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Arthur Cristian

Thanks Dominic, we posted this e-man elsewhere on FB a few weeks ago. A woman reminded us of it which triggered our "memories" some years ago when, with others, we discussed the significance of Name being reversed = e-man It was only during this past year that the final pennies dropped about the pull of e-motion being ego (e-go) that is "name" and how "name" ties in with trauma/reaction to trauma (compelled to perform the priest instructions = robots/slaves/drones) and how "name" is the vehicle that activates the holy ghost of "name", the E-GO (ecclesiastical program set into motion = drone/robot.slave) that is a demon crafted by these warlocks/witches to possess us of our "own" making/doing and thus be remotely controlled without realising/sensing-this-slight-of-hand trickery.

Thank you so much for adding the on. :) <3

Awesome mate, awesome....

NO NAME = E-MAN ON -----

They are so devious these black-magic sorcerers.

7 May at 19:52

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Dominic Toomey

thank you for figuring it out,

7 May at 20:03

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Dominic Toomey

just a thought isn't man also a title?

7 May at 20:42

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Vicki Victoria

I think it's mankind, hu-man, person, agent are titles.

7 May at 20:44

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Dominic Toomey

so really we're nothing,while paradoxically everything

7 May at 20:45

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Dominic Toomey ?

7 May at 20:46

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Dominic Toomey

telepathy needed

7 May at 20:48

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Vicki Victoria

I think that a title is the removal from the real thing...us....and the word man is an expression of what we are. Courts won't use it.they will only use words like person, agent, citizen etc.

7 May at 20:48

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Vicki Victoria

Ha ha ha aha!!!! Well, that makes courts dead boring!!! Literally!

7 May at 20:49

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Dominic Toomey

only that "man" is a 'word" & a "spell".

7 May at 20:56

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Arthur Cristian

Exactly MAN is not a reflection/shadow of MAN but "hue-man", "name", "agent", "citizen", "person", "ego", is a reflection of the MAN. Really, we should not even say MAN but we are all using this English language rooted in duality (shadows/reflection) to describe who we really are because we don't know another way. So the intention is that MAN is who we really are and not the reflection of MAN that is the hue-man, name, etc. MAN has no reflection, it is not a "name" therefore is not a "title", otherwise, my name is MAN, and MAN is clan name, surname, middle name, christian/first name, and MAN is addressed at such and such., is on drivers license, birth certificate, etc........... Even their greatest attempts at lying still can't disguise all truth in shadows/reflections of duality. :) They worship the shadow world. It is very very simple what they do.

7 May at 21:01

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Vicki Victoria

Arthur, what about women? Are we a Woman...or does that make it a title...as in the female version of man?

7 May at 21:10

Arthur Cristian

Dominic, we are everything and everything is us = consciousness and is why everything of nature is of our consciousness, of our senses, we can touch, taste, feel, smell, hear, see the dreams MAN created/co-created because all of MAN that ever was and ever will be is the consciousness of the MAN we all are here and now. Without consciousness thee would be NOTHING to sense/experience. We are all the true "Gods" = creators of MANS consciousness that is MANS dreaming of consciousness.

7 May at 21:28

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Dominic Toomey

man is

7 May at 21:38

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Simon Kaiwai

Well addressed and said Arthur. Mountain Man does illustrate the folly of playing with words in their arena

7 May at 22:25

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Arthur Cristian

Hi Vicki, NO women are slaves for MAN, can't do anything about that, it's part of the built in clock that runs MAN. LOLLLLLLL <3 :)

22 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

A MAN can't be in his cave without his slave outside slaving in the kitchen, laundry, doing the shopping, etc.... LOLLLLLLLL <3 :)

22 hours ago

The Cristian Family November 2006

Harvard Will Host
'Reenactment' of Satanic Mass


By Michael W. Chapman
May 7, 2014 - 2:06 PM
http://www.cnsnews.com

Link: http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/harvard-will-host-...


Memorial Hall at Harvard University; Queen's Head Pub is in the basement of the hall. (Photo: Harvard.edu)

(CNSNews.com) – A Satanic Black Mass reenactment is scheduled to take place at the Queen’s Head Pub in Memorial Hall at Harvard University on May 12, with the Mass performed by The Satanic Temple, which is being hosted for the event by the Harvard Extension Cultural Studies Club.

A non-consecrated communion host will be used in the reenactment, according to Lucien Greaves, spokesman for The Satanic Temple.

“While Black Masses are supposed to utilize a consecrated host, ours is merely representative of a consecrated host,” Greaves told CNSNews.com. “It is not consecrated. We neither believe in nor invoke the supernatural.”

“To us, the Black Mass is an amalgamation that developed through time based on witch-hunting fears and later adopted by some as a declaration of personal Independence against what they felt to be the stifling authority of the church,” said Greaves.
Satanic Black Mass ‘Reenactment’ Set For Harvard University on May 12

Flyer advertising the Satanic Black Mass at the Queen's Head Pub at Harvard University. (Photo: Campus Reform.org)


Flyer advertising the Satanic Black Mass at the Queen's Head Pub at Harvard University. (Photo: Campus Reform.org)

He further said that during the Black Mass reenactment, representatives of The Satanic Temple will provide narration on the academic and historical aspects of a Satanic Mass.

A flyer with an image of a goat-headed, Satanic figure standing on an altar surrounded by damned souls was posted at the Harvard campus announcing the event. It states that the Harvard Extension Cultural Studies Club is hosting “a reenactment of a satanic black mass performed by The Satanic Temple ** with commentary and historical context **.

The flyer further says the Mass will occur on May 12 at 8:30PM in the Queen’s Head Pub in Memorial Hall, and that admission is free.

The Harvard Extension Hub, part of the Harvard Extension School, provides information on “school news, blogs, stories & events,” and it posted an “Official Response to Cultural Studies Event” on May 7 about the Black Mass on its website. (The Harvard Extension School is Harvard University’s primary resource for continuing education courses.)

The “official response” states, “An independent student organization, the Harvard Extension Cultural Studies Club, plans to host a controversial student event involving a historical reenactment of a black mass ceremony that has a narrator providing historical context and background.
Satanic Black Mass ‘Reenactment’ Set For Harvard University on May 12

Lucien Greaves, spokesman for The Satanic Temple, which is scheduled to conduct the Black Mass reenactment at Harvard University on May 12, 2014. (Photo: Shane Bugbee/Vice.com)


Lucien Greaves, spokesman for The Satanic Temple, which is scheduled to conduct the Black Mass reenactment at Harvard University on May 12, 2014. (Photo: Shane Bugbee/Vice.com)

“Students at Harvard Extension School, like students at colleges across the nation, organize and operate a number of independent student organizations, representing a wide range of student interests.

“Harvard Extension School does not endorse the views or activities of any independent student organization. But we do support the rights of our students and faculty to speak and assemble freely.

“In this case, we understand that this independent student organization, the Cultural Studies Club, is hosting a series of events—including a Shinto tea ceremony, a Shaker exhibition, and a Buddhist presentation on meditation—as part of a student-led effort to explore different cultures.”

The Queen’s Head Pub is in Memorial Hall, which is at “the heart of Harvard’s campus” and was “dedicated in 1878 as a monument to Harvard alumni who died during the Civil War,” it states on its Facebook page. The Hall was completed in 1876, and the Queen’s Head Pub was built in the Hall’s basement in 2007. The pub is 12,000 square feet and can accommodate up to 450 guests.
Satanic Black Mass ‘Reenactment’ Set For Harvard University on May 12


Baphomet

Harvard University was launched in 1639 through a financial gift from the Protestant clergyman John Harvard. In its early decades, Harvard trained many Protestant ministers who went on to serve the various Christian churches of New England.

The Satanic Temple, which is scheduled to perform the reenactment Black Mass, is the same group that is trying to have a statue of Satan (depicted as “Baphomet”) installed on the grounds of the Oklahoma State Capitol.

Concerning the “child-friendly” Satan statue, Greaves told CNSNews.com, "Our monument will stand in honor of those unjustly accused, the slandered minority, the maligned out-groups, so that we might pay respect to their memory and celebrate our progress as a pluralistic nation founded on secular law."

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Arthur Cristian

These images are the reflections/shadows of sorcery, re-presenting its inventor, his worshipers and his/their victim/victims (all of MAN). Notice the host is MAN possessed by the demon crafted remotely by Satanists/Freemasons = pentagram over pineal gland.

Pineal Gland or forehead = all seeing eye - this is where MAN projects/expands IMAGES to the dream of life using MANS breath to encode/embed the images being projected, being dreamt, thought, understood, etc.

Pentagram

Pen - writing word-spells

Gram or gramme - a metric system unit of mass - as in

Telegram - meaning, from remote locations they are projecting a gram = a demon cast in the water (a gram of water) of MANS breath and sent through the water (consciousness - the whole of the dream of life is water, is MANS consciousness, is MANS breath) to possess their targeted victims. They do this through Hollywood, TV, Radio, Music, frequencies, signals, etc, etc. They get the word-spell spinning through the education of their victims and in victims saying/thinking/believing a, b, c, 1, 2, 3, etc, etc, over and over again (lots of repetition going on in education to learn spells of mean-in-gs = understand - be under the standing of the spells of words/letters, etc) the victims are conjuring up and calling upon them the demons, the grams.

The demons are tele-ported upon them from Satanic covens, black-magic ritual sites so they can be possessed (hooded/shrouded/cloaked) by them without ever realising they did it to them"selves".

These black-magic sites are where bred or kidnapped babies, children, teenagers, adults, animals, are ritually sacrificed/slaughtered to capture the GRAM (that is the soul, the water of MANS consciousness/breath) departing the tortured victim = death. They capture these souls to use them in their rituals for casting demons in the water of MANS breath and to maintaining the frequency of TRAUMA/TERROR/FEAR, etc, so that MAN continues reacting to trauma that is the demon of "name" and have the demon maintain its powerful grip over its victim.

Pent -a past tense and a past participle of pen2.adj. Penned or shut up; closely confined. - describing the victims prison-cell that are the demonic images bouncing to and fro between the ears as echos of IMAGE POWER, thought control, "system thought", rendering the victim into terribly confined quarters where the Real MAN is squeezed out and the demon has hold of almost all of MANS thinking, e-motions, dreams, values, life-style, etc, etc, = life in "The System" that is a man-made HELL.

The Pent is the past, the education the victim endured over many many "years", that being the image power of the demon/demons spinning, whirling and bouncing to and fro between the ears of its victims who are projecting into the future, "time-codes" of system thought, that are the dreams victims are dreaming for, be it house, land, car, truck, motor bike, equipment, course, title, degree, etc, etc, through mortgage or savings or leases or dreams for a family/children/marriage, holidays, retirement home/savings/superannuation, food, water, materialism, consumerism, etc, etc, etc, and thus completely imprison/control the victims in present-sense, here and now throughout the whole of their life-"time".

The all-seeing-eye (i) is the "NAME" of the demon that possesses MAN and traps MAN because this is all that MAN sees, that being the word-spells of "System Thught" crafted by black-magic priests and projected their read and write alphabet languages

Please WAKE UP EVERYONE - Wake Up - Wake Up - Wake Up.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/harvard-will-host-...

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Arthur Cristian

The "name"/word humanity = hue-MAN-i-ty is a fallen-MAN who sees the reflection of fallen-MAN through "i" as in all seeing eye (i). The hue in hu-man is a shade, colour, type, shadow, reflection of a MAN but is NOT MAN. Wholeness is true consciousness, has no separation and therefore can't be got at naturally/consciously, but through lies of duality, illusions are provided on offer by Satanists/Freemasons, for men, women and children to fantasize over.

While lost in the play of make-believe MAN can imagine that MAN is broken down into spirit, mind and body which con-structs (structures of the con) the illusory rules of the divide allowing lies to enter into the fantasy game causing MAN to create the delusion of a conflict that does not exist but while lost to such psychosis, it leads MAN to completely break down wholeness/consciousness through unnatural (non-sensory)/unconscious means.

The manipulation through the use of trauma and the reactions to trauma is what brings all conflicts to a head. (HEAD) The black-magic sorcerers of Satanism/Freemasonry intended conflict to be this way.

Using your senses (touch, taste, feel, smell, hear, see) have you ever sensed a "mind"? Have you ever had a direct experience with "mind"....... myyyyyyyy ....... iiiiiiiiiiiii ........ .nnnnnnnnnn...dddddddddddd - Are you aware that "mind" does not exist?

People who have really woken up are NOT against anything or anyone - only the LOST are against an assumed foe/enemy. Those who have really woken up embrace everyone no matter what the circumstance and they do this while remaining grounded, vigilant and discerning. They are not lost to flights of fantasy and THEY DO NOT REACT TO TRAUMA.

They are not being led by darkness/lies/fantasies/illusions/delusions/trauma/etc.

They see/sense life without the use of rose coloured glasses.

They are realists.

They create light for those lost to the darkness to return to.

They are not part of the darkness.

They do not run from the darkness instead they bring light into the darkness to dissolve it.

They will relentlessly confront darkness without ever being part of darkness.

They never run away from darkness, they are far more together/powerful than that. <3 :)

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Arthur Cristian

Best everyone starts growing all their food because this demonstrates they are taking full responsibility for their lives. Stop relying on slaves producing food for others who can't be bothered. We need to come together through the strength of being fully-responsible for our lives and not be coming together through the weakness of limited-responsibility by relying upon slaves to provide what we can't be bothered to take full-responsibility for. Anything stopping us taking full-responsibility needs to be quickly removed. Lets free each other up so we all stop being slaves and in doing so kiss goodbye to "The System" forevermore. <3 :)

The Cristian Family November 2006

Video: Mountain Man Arrested
For Trying To Feed Himself,
Owns Judge And Walks Out (fixed)

http://youtu.be/06VzxxDTnB8

Posted to Facebook 6th May 2014

Link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203651756842542

We (Fiona/Arthur) just watched it - Good on him. He needs to watch out for "contracting" with "name", because "self" & "person" reflects "name". Otherwise well done. He blew the judge right out of the water with his focus on "legalese".

The judges questions are actually claims in disguise. They are tests to see if he claims "name" thus making/en-FORCING all contracts enjoindered.

The truth is, these questions (claims) are not relevant to the living MAN. He has no need to answer them and should turn things completely about-face.

All he needs to do is ask the question, "Are these questions/claims relevant to the living-MAN or to a corporate fiction as in "name"/"person"?

And don't waver from this, no matter what.

Ask her "which one do you want here" - this leave nothing ambiguous.

"Who are you wanting to process the curse? You and your family, etc, etc, or someone else?"

If she tries to carry on, bring her back to the question. And if she doesn't answer, say, "Are you here to enjoinder a living MAN (men, women & children) with a curse, because this MAN does not accept the curse on offer?"

If you have asked her 3 times (the cock crowed three times) and she still doesn't answer, you can walk out.

During these three times, you must make it clear to judges/magistrates/authorities/etc that all lies are curses and that she is now fully responsible for the curse (claims) and it comes upon her, her family, her loved ones, her associates, her beneficiaries, etc, etc, who benefit from the processing of this curse/curses, from this point onwards, that is until she makes matters whole by ending the matter, whether you are present in the courtroom or not, when she does so.

You are equal to her and she is equal to you and you are removing the conflict of this "higher-standing" out of the way. If you are really smart there is no battle, no need to battle. You are peaceful, a MAN of Peace, love, truth, do no harm, etc, etc.........

You have done what you can to bring a cure to the matter and she is refusing to accept it. That is her choice. Now the conflict of processing the curse rests upon her shoulders, life, family, children, etc....... As a MAN of love, peace, truth, do no harm, you are here (caught-room) to make matters WHOLE, to free them (judges, authorities, priests, etc) from this curse. )Why do you think they wear black clothing?)

Back to the video, he has made it clear that he is not the "corporate fiction".

She asked... do you still live at (address)? - he should have asked the original question we raised right there....... is this question for the living-MAN or the corporate fiction?

Why, because he can make it clear to the judge that her claims in corporate fiction (legalese) are the offer to process a curse - what he is doing if he is conscious is to put back on to the living-woMAN acting as the judge to take on the processing of the curse (make her, the living-Woman process the curse).

This ends the matter right there and then because anything she does from this point onwards is her processing the curse which becomes everyone she re-presents and who act as beneficiaries of her lie to procure the MANS (the victims) exhaustion of his life-force-energy.

When you ask her the question, you can continue, "Because if you are asking the question for the legal fiction here, this is a lie and you are asking me to process a curse, because that is what lies are." This is all hidden in the legalese, which is the smoke and mirrors screen to stop us from sensing the Black Magic of processing curses at play here....... BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT IS GOING ON - NOTHING ELSE IS GOING ON.

The moment you ask her the question, you have taken complete control of the court (CAUGHT) room because you know who you really are. Not saying that what he does isn't great, just that this is a way to simplify things even more and get the matter over even faster!

There are many ways you can ask the question. You can say "Are you here to deal with the living MAN or the corporate fiction because this MAN is the living MAN, not the corporate fiction."

Notice how he doesn't let her intimidate him. VERY important because they rely on people being intimidated, unsure and easy to bulldoze this makes them easily susceptible to reacting to trauma = confusion, scatteredness, fear, doubt, uncertainty, thus becoming easy to be manipulated = compliant slave. :)

As to what is really going on please read/watch the Love For Life sequential order of videos, articles, debates, etc, we provide as they help anyone keen to to connect/sense with the big picture behind "The System" we see/sense. <3 :)

http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514

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About the video............
Three Forks Justice Court | November 21, 2013 | Montana, North America

In a packed courtroom, 52-year-old Ernie Tertelgte told the judge "I am a living man protected by natural law and I have the right to forage for food when I am hungry... You are trying to create a fictitious, fraudulent action."

Charged with fishing without a license and resisting the arrest for fishing without a license, Mr. Tertegte says he's being wrongly prosecuted for trying to feed himself.

Tertelgte, 52 years old, was arrested on Monday and is accused of fishing without a license and then resisting arrest.
William Wolf said, "It's we the people that run this and rule this country, not we the courts, not we the government, and if the people don't start standing up for themselves and for each other, we are going to continue being subjects of this government."

Justice Adams set Tertelgte's bond at $500 and his next court hearing is scheduled for January.

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We are not aware of what has become of this court matter in "January this year".

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Alexandros Agelastos

UPDATE -- Arrested For Feeding Himself Man Found Guilty!
Full article at - http://b4in.info/jP1n On Thursday I wrote about Ernie Wayne Tertelgte, who insisted in court that the law had no right to try or arrest him...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqKi1Tmv43Q

6 May at 17:33

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Lee J Lennon

But then he went back to court and got arrested. This is unfortunately only one part of the story. His wording was good but the system still does its thing. Lx

6 May at 17:34

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Amper Lux

Thats paper-work for ya. x

6 May at 17:57

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Arthur Cristian

Thanks Lee for updating us on this "matter". He obviously has contracted - the fact he returned to "court" had him be caught. If anyone knows this MAN and or his network please pass on all the information shared here in this thread/post. The way forward is to make/force them to process the curse - the fact he is probably still using "name" to receive benefits/privileges from "The System" as in drivers license, car registration, bank account, credit card, lease, mortgage, passport, medicare, contracts for gas, electricity, internet, mobile/cell, telephone, etc, etc...., thus he is seriously and deeply/terribly compromised. Please read our articles posted this year on processing curses, slave to a name, etc, image power, pull of e-motion, etc, etc.... This MAN is not yet clear about who he really is and what he is really part of.

6 May at 19:07

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Lee J Lennon

The system is simply not recognising the man. The best held positions are being closed world wide. Those who strive to sovereignty or to celebrate the individual are being swallowed up, and because no one understands, no one cares but the few. Lx

6 May at 19:42

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Arthur Cristian

Hi Lee, the key, the missing link, is to force them to process the curses of their "own" making, BUT you have to be very clear in your intention, in your dreaming without a doubt, etc, coming into play, coming into question. In present-sense, you must be certain of such a powerful intention/outcome. This is all explained in the articles, etc.

6 May at 20:27

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Lee J Lennon

I am fully aware and actively working on release from the system but haunted and hunted to a place I also do not want to be. Others are the same. Lx

6 May at 21:00

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Lee J Lennon

Oh, I force them when I have to. Fiduciary and trust are interesting factors. Lx

6 May at 21:00

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Arthur Cristian

"Fiduciary" and "trust" will continue to trap you........

Justin Chellis wrote saying: "Arthur I have looking at natural law principles to help myself get to the truth of knowledge. Is this a good path to find truth within."

We replied........

Hi Justin, if that means co-creating with and contemplating on plants, trees, animals, sky, sunlight, wind, waves, soil, insects, birds, mountains, valleys, hills, plains, etc, etc, YEP we would agree with you, BUT if it means you are diving into the re-presentation of "Intellectual Property" then we wish you all the best because to us, there is nothing there, nothing of the living present with the presence of life to connect with, to aid you in learning about and connecting with reality. What you are referring to as "natural law" is nature itself. "Natural law" are not the thoughts, ideas, images, pictures, etc, of other men and women bouncing to and fro between your ears as their shadows and reflections (so to speak).

There is NO truth of "natural Law to be found there because it ain't natural, it ain't living. The Mountain MAN in the video made a huge mistake arguing over who he is and over "Natural Law". He revealed "him"self" as a hypocrite, a liar, a pirate on their seas/sees of commerce, in their "eyes", because he is presently admitting to being of their world and in their world willingly accepting all the privileges, benefits, services and the exclusivity they bring for him living in "The System". You can't have your cake and eat it too.

This is why Arthur gave everything up between 2006 & 2009, no more drivers license, car rego's, bank acc, credit cards, no govt hand-outs, no medicare, etc, etc..... Arthur is NOT of their "world" = "The System".

The "world" always re-presents "The System", the "world" is not Earth/Nature, etc...... When they say the end of the "world" they are talking about the end of "The System", their current "system", and changing to another version of "The System" under another guise = the New World Order (NWO).

More on "Original MAN", etc, explained in the other current FB thread here: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203647275930522

The point being ONLY an Original MAN can force them to completely back off because every instant is the processing of their "own" curses amplifying and amplifying without respite or restrictions, etc, and they can't do anything to stop it unless they make WHOLE with everyone they sought to harm or had caused harm too.

Re-presenting "Fiduciary" and "Trust" is clearly demonstrating/announcing that NO ORIGINAL MAN stands before them.

6 May at 21:12

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Lee J Lennon

Yes, but because the system is in control of all the resources and monopolise the land, we have little choice but to deal with the system. You live in the country, others would like to, but in the lions mouth, England, that is not an option. I live in the most controlled area on the planet and people think they have freedom. So give up all your man made BS and find yourself skinned in this country. Australians and Americans always have a problem in understanding that in England you cannot be free, you cannot be foreign to the system. No matter how much of a 3D imposed over 2D you like to be. Lx

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Terry Bouffard

I suggest people listen to Karl Lentz. He is very much into common law
http://www.myprivateaudio.com/Karl-Lentz.html

www.myprivateaudio.com
My Private remedy information - audio, video and friends.

Video: Karl Lentz at Truthjuice Birmingham 10th December 2013
2 Hours 21 Minutes

6 May at 21:48

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Lee J Lennon
No, Karl is just a statist with simple tricks. Common law is NOT your friend. As an individual, try and find peers? Lol.

Common law is owned.
Lx

6 May at 21:52

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Arthur Cristian

Argue for your limitations and sure enough they are yours.

You are digging your own "hole" before you even give your real life a chance to start exercising its true power of consciousness. You have just admitted that you are lost to the reactions of trauma placing who you really are under their power. They have broken you - you are their slave. We are not having a go at you the MAN, Lee, just using scrutiny and senses to point out the obvious.

Do you really think that England is more controlled than Australia or the US? Remember this is a global system and Australia was their penal colony and Fiona is English too.

The point is, we either say its hopeless and do nothing or we say what can we do, even if we risk the bodies that we currently use, to show those who think they have power and control over us that they are labouring under a massive delusion

They may have FORCE and guns, etc, but there are actually very few of them, and many of their lackey enFORCErs will baulk at killing, hurting etc, multitudes in their "own" backyard when there is clearly no reason. Yes we are fully aware of the Chinese army and the CIA Taliban, Mossad, and other armies bred to invade the western world but that is another subject for another "time".

Look at all the US Army personnel refusing to turn on their own countryman and this is spreading throughput their ranks now forcing the Masons/Satanists to enlist criminals, psychopaths, deeply emotionally repressed or aggressive "gays", etc, to join the police force, armies, etc, and use their pent-up hatred against the innocent. Controlling "normal", consciously sound people doesn't work anymore, yes, on a smaller scale, but not on a much larger scale.

It won't take many of us, so long as we are committed to stand our ground no matter how ugly it gets, to break the back of their so-called control.

As we have said so many times before.... get together, start weaning off "The System" by growing food, collecting water, getting alternative energy, etc, and start supporting each other unconditionally which can ONLY happen when we become self-less (ego-less) because then we are the wind of immense strength under each others wings raising each other up and back to Paradise.

Coming together out of weakness is NOT going to work. Your last comment is that weakness amplified, is Occupy, OPPT, Zeitgeist, Thrive, Ubuntu, Freeman/Sovereignty movement, etc, and is the New Age movement, etc, etc, etc, etc. etc........

Then, when we are strong, remove our lives from the "name", stop using the system benefits and services and remove any title deeds from the Land Titles Office and co-create as caretakers of the land. When/if the thugs turn up, we all stand strong. If they take one, we all go, if they kill one, another steps forward.

Refuse to process their curses, meaning refuse to react to trauma which breaks us up as self-centered in-divide-u-all-s, easy pickings being picked off one by one without "community immunity" getting in the way of FORCE.

Behave with compassion and love but stand your ground.

It's that simple.

Plenty of hard labour involved but simple.

Please read our articles, watch our videos as we go into these themes in great detail.

From the other post..........

You see Timmy, we are not into doing harm to anyone anywhere, we just expose the lies that possess the liars influencing others into becoming possessed by the lies too and therefore cause the continuation of harm to spread without immunity to stop it. Like we said we have nothing against the MAN, Santos Bonacci.

We look at what we do in this way............ someone is infected by a terrible highly dangerous disease (lies) and the disease needs to be confronted and dissolved in present-sense so that it stops doing harm to the host which stops spreading its lies elsewhere to harm others.

This is called "Community Immunity".

We stand for "Community Immunity".

As we often say, the greatest lie and liar is the one closest to the truth, they cause the greatest damage of all. "Community Immunity" is a massive wall holding back an ocean of lies from getting into MANS thinking. Just one tiny crack in the wall is sufficient for the ocean of lies to seep through causing wear and tear leading to the crack becoming larger allowing more and more lies to seep into MANS thinking until the hole is so big that the pressure forces the whole wall of "Community Immunity" to collapse and all of MAN is enslaved by the trickery of fallen-MANS slight of hand (black-magic).

When you have a go at us you are having a go at "Community Immunity" as this is at the heart of all the love For Life work we've been doing since March 2005.

6 May at 22:16

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Lee J Lennon

Yes Arthur, been following your posts many years. Yes I get it. No consciousness is not all there is. People are not strong enough and won't make the effort of of the comfort zone. Standing your ground as a man puts you in prison or worse, like many friends of mine and no, they did not give in to the person, some are without charges.
Hard to get the points in a thread but things are getting much worse, not better. I join no group not follow any group.
And yes things are much harder in England, I've travelled a lot. You cannot escape the force of the system in such a small country that happens to have been one of the largest constructors of the mame we live in. Lx

6 May at 22:34

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Lee J Lennon

Loved bare ground to abundance by the way. I do Permaculture design systems. Lx

6 May at 22:35

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Borian Galloway

He did awesome that first appearance. His mistake was going back, if he didn't return to their phoney platform, he would of walked.

6 May at 22:40

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Arthur Cristian

There is so much more to this Lee, please read and watch the sequential order - use scrutiny like a blow torch and go where the logic of truth takes you. "Take your time", just contemplate, contemplate, contemplate and witness the penny drop as to the brilliant slight of hand tactics these Freemasons/Satanists use. If you have already watched "Under The Spell Of Intellectual Property" and "The Name" Is The Mark Of The Beast............" and can recall its contents/insights then start reading these posts, most of them come from this "year".

Sequential Order (copied in full at the bottom of this webpage)

6 May at 22:49

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Simon Kaiwai

Hard to say that the reason he is coerced into paying penalty is solely because he went back. What would you say if he didn't go back but they yanked him off the street? How would you fault him? Are you claiming that all who do not create joinder between the fiction and the living Man continue to walk freely? Perhaps he was aware that they would yank him (a second time as he was already taken once for lawfully foraging) and preferred to reason and reiterate who he was versus the fiction they were calling.

It's very easy to pick at past faults of others but to do so without also remembering that we ourselves make mistakes is bigotry. We need good intents to be matched with upright action. I perceive it good you are offering your insights freely Arthur and agree with you on the curse/s of the system. But as you say: the system uses force and I say it is not righteous. Some within the system willingly take curses upon themselves for hedonistic benefits. This allows for Man to be wronged irrespective of invisible or other contracts to the system. Your thoughts?

6 May at 23:25

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Chris Skelton

Mt. Man appeared to much into strawman aspects of the system. If he was practicing common law one has to ask why didnt he file or voice his claim of trespass. Why answer a complaint from an agent when under common law, a man only answers a claim of injury from another man or woman. So the man who arrested Mt. man has to provide evidence that Mt. Man injured the man known as the arresting officer or there is no claim before the court for Mt. Man to answer. Right?

7 May at 01:05

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Steve Wilson

Mike Lawrie

7 May at 01:17

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Simon Kaiwai

Right about the claim Chris but again you assume the mistake was made by the Man and not the wrong/s committed by system agents. We do not know what paperwork he filed beforehand but all can see he was well aware of who he is, how the system is working and a good body of the law. Do you actually think you know better or could do better than him? It goes back to my question: do you think that if you did a highly visible action to uphold natural law AND you did everything correctly to prevent joinder to their name THEN you'd be left alone?

7 May at 01:27

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Chris Skelton

I admire Mt. Man and encourage more people to stand as a man. I know what I know. I have a limited idea what he knows. I will do my best when the time comes, and others may judge the difference between our approaches. My future court experiences and what i learn from it will be the best teacher.

7 May at 01:38

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Arthur Cristian

The fact is the moment he files paper-work he is admitting that he has slave masters. Otherwise who is he serving the paperwork too?

Are not all men equal?

That no MAN is master of another MAN?

A real freeMAN is NOT answerable to anyone unless he has done harm then that becomes a tribal, community, matter with those directly effected by such harm-doing. No 3rd party strangers involved from all sides.

The fact is while this MAN is doing business/performing in commerce with the "State" (whatever you want to label the corporation) he is admitting to being their slave and under their jurisdiction/authority because he willingly gave up all his "Original-MAN" rights to be a slave/drone/robot performing in their dead-corpse (living-dead) fiction.

He was stuffed long-before he was even charged.

Thus he was dealt with accordingly - after the initial caught-test to see if he pleads guilty or not and obviously before the next caught-date January 2014 they just looked into his background via computers and large server data bases and the intelligence will quickly reveal if he has any "assets" in "The System" under said "name" which they can take from him if he does not obey his slave masters instructions/penalties for being a "bad" boy in their corporate fiction. Bingo, they got him rooted, they have the FORCE, he doesn't yet...... would be great if "community immunity" arose in his community/province.

If you do what Arthur has done and have NO contracts with "name" then they ain't going to get at nothing either. They wrote off over $400,000.00 in statute debts cause they could not get at Arthur (and in some other matters with Fiona) to perform for them. They then had the choice of doing harm to Arthur which meant they had to conjure up more lies, etc..... but Arthur had them processing the curses of their "own" making, so they dropped EVERYTHING because they knew clearly that Arthur meant what he intended.

They even tried to con Fiona into taking on the responsibilities of "Name" Arthur but we just laughed this off, but we did get help from Deborah Bentley who reminded us about the Gai Waterhouse case - this helped us but in the end it was two things,

1. Arthur is not the "owner" or "re-presentative" of said ("intellectual property") "Name" and that they should take it up with the authorised administrator of said "name", we didn't have to say anything else as that was there issue, not ours, and

2. Forced them to process the curses of their "own" making and really mean it in present-sense. .

They even offered Arthur's Drivers License back........ LOLLLLLLLLL

Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office
Part Ten - Should We Be In Fear Of Those Who Claim To Protect Us

18th October 2010
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7500

7 May at 02:28

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Arthur Cristian

Chris, true common law, not the bullshit commoners law with serfs under the standing of land-lords, land barons, owners of castles, etc (which is all rooted in commerce as in taxes and providing a % of seasonal stock or labour as rent, etc, to their master/s), is all about direct experience with those harmed (their tribe/community effected) and the perpetrators (their tribe - the perpetrator/s who allegedly brought disgrace upon the tribe) because it is ONLY there can such harm-doing matters/claims be resolved by all who are effected which is everyone on all sides.

Taking matters into a commercial court or admiralty court or common law court or government court, or corporation court, etc, etc, including Supreme, Local, Federal-Magistrate, High courts, etc, is the WRONG venue.

YOU DO NOT GO THERE - THEY EXIST ONLY FOR "NAME".

Anyway to us, the common law route/process is a load of bullshit, it does not work for 99% of people who claim it, they are just too dumbed-down and stupid, too deeply traumatised, too inexperienced, too defenseless, too busy, distracted and most don't have the brains/nous to get around even the most basic of legalese to know what is really going on. The fact is they are all discriminated against even before a court matter was raised in their "name".

THEY ARE ALL LAMBS TO THE SLAUGHTER.

There is another way to deal with these "System" "Name" issues. Refer to everything else we shared in this thread and please read the articles, videos we listed in the Sequential Order.

All the best to you and your family Chris.

7 May at 02:25

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Arthur Cristian

Simon, MAN, with the clear unequivocal intent behind the most purer, sincere and happy bright thought/dream has the greater light of consciousness to absorb the man-made darkness created by any fallenMAN.

You said and asked: "Some within the system willingly take curses upon themselves for hedonistic benefits. This allows for Man to be wronged irrespective of invisible or other contracts to the system. Your thoughts?"

The greater light of consciousness created by MAN and intentionally directed at the culprits behind the darkness of their harm-doing (the clear intention of the redeemer) forces the curse makers to process ALL the curses of their own making and they will completely destroy their real lives (committing an eternal spiritual suicide), and of their "own" making, have the curse come upon all their families, loved, ones, children, grandparents, descendants, benefactors, associates, etc, until they make whole with all those they sought to harm or had harmed directly or indirectly. Basically it is their oblivion unless they change their ways and stop supporting harm and benefiting from harm.

The curse goes down through the generations of descendants until they are completely extinct. What we set into motion is absolute, There is NO turning back.

We know of at least 20 families in law who have now completely destroyed their families (very few remain alive) because they were forced to process curses of their "own" making. We know of 17 people directly connected with sex rings and paedophile gangs who have all committed suicide. Media says they died by natural causes etc. LOLLLLL All of them were visited by Arthur.

This is nothing to brag/gloat about as it actually saddens us for a while - each "time" we receive news of the outcomes of processing curses our our hearts pour out to our lost brothers and sisters and their lost families, etc. We have battled with some deep-seated sadness cause we have four young daughters too. But we are unwilling to back off with what we started here. We are determined that "The System" is no more and that all of it and its lies/liars (if they don't want to flee from the beast that is hell) are gone forevermore. We live for NO SYSTEM, co-creating with nature/earth/the-dream of life. This is the legacy we leave behind for our children.

7 May at 03:00

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Simon Kaiwai

I may agree with you Fiona (?) that said my question was more an immediate explanation of why the Mountain Man was wronged. We can speculate as to whether or not he filed papers, whether or not he created joinder with their name by some trick or artifice, whether or not he's registered assets to the system but for me the fact remains: MAN can get harmed and wronged by others, even those whom are given the very curses they try to dispense. We should learn about the significance of these things but to say he did xyz wrong while only knowing that the system applied a finding against one of it's names is speculative.

7 May at 04:23

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Lee J Lennon

Arthur, I know. I've been at this longer than you! Lx

7 May at 04:51

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Arthur Cristian

Simon, the options have narrowed down to just a few possibilities/scenarios. It's clear that all lies are curses so we know that the whole of "The System" is the processing of a curse. We also know that you must be enjoindered for the curse to be processed.

The Mountain MAN is clearly enjoindered by "name" (refer to earlier posts in this thread for more on this) otherwise he would not volunteer to appear in court to be caught - if he really knew who he really was he would not be in the position that he's ended up in., he would have remained in silence and let them process the curse which is what the "great" MAN did long ago to the Romans, Pharisees, Sanhedrin, etc, etc. He knew he was not answerable to them.

Mountain MAN had a vested interest to protect "ownership" which is noted by his fight. If he did not "own" anything he would have nothing to fight for. Money, assets, etc enjoindered to "name".

There is also the possible scenario of carrying out instructions from superiors impacting law-enforcement, the bar, etc. They do want chaos, injustice, destruction, etc, etc, to get worse and worse everywhere as part of the final staged act to the prelude of their "end-times" self-fulfilling prophecies providing the launch pad excuse/justification to introduce their fantastic NWO remedy dressed up to smell like roses, etc, have everyone, the duped, jump for it.

It's clear that paper work in itself has no power no force of law, it was not paper that invaded all the lands and decimated all the tribes etc, etc and set up "The System" to maintain power and control over captured slaves and their progeny. Paper and whatever is scribbled or marked or stamped on it can't do this by itself, can't move from desk to desk to filing cabinet, etc.... Paper is a fiction just as the Easter Bunny is a fiction.

Mountain MAN may also have a history of dealing with the law and they decided to make an example of him, maybe the judge did not like how he treated her...... Does it rally matter all this speculation? The fact is harm is being done, curses are being processed and if we step back to see the big picture its clearly obvious that we just make/force harm doers process curses of their "own" making otherwise we either become just like them, harm-doers retaliating, etc, or we continue being compliant slaves hoping for a few mini-slave victories here and there while maintaining their slave status forevermore.

It is pretty simple for us - we just focus on harm-doers processing curses and not get caught up in the semantics, pedantic histrionics, fears, doubts, uncertainty, vagueness, confusion, etc, and the merry-go-round dramas of who did what, when where, how, why thus continue being trapped in the vicious cycle of a poor me victim syndrome reacting to trauma, to the pull of e-motion which is where they (Freemasons/Satanists) want you to be.

The thing with us Simon is in present-sense, we are already in the action/motion of creating remedy, of forcing harm doers to process curses of their "own" making. And we are vigilant and discerning to not let us be distracted from doing this day-after-day because if we did we would end up on the destroyed-broken-fallen-MAN gravy train going nowhere. No thanks. We come to true freedom with strength.

We don't come to freedom out of weakness which is what distractions, uncertainty, doubt, confusion, etc, does to you, it diminishes the concentration of power of your life-force energy being directed powerfully. We say use it powerfully here and now in present-sense to force them to quickly change their ways and once this Satanic/Freemasonic cabal has been completely busted wide open we provide sanctuary for all them fleeing from this terrible man-made hell that has made prisoners of everyone.

7 May at 06:18

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Lee J Lennon

I have been strong all my life, got up when knocked, stood up, etc...
But I am slowly and painfully becoming a destroyed-broken-fallen-MAN.
Lx

7 May at 06:36

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Chris Skelton

How does presenting papers to a clerk to move a court in exercising its function: that being to serve man when a man claims an injury make one a servant of the court? Since the man is ordering the clerk to process his claim, and ordering the wrongdoer to answer the man.

7 May at 07:09

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Simon Kaiwai

Again, I agree with the bulk of what you've said there Arthur except the speculation on Mountain Man's bringing this on himself in someway. He was getting a feed from nature. No semantics needed. He definitely knows enough to have stated his natural right to do this. Force was used against him to prevent this, one of the most basic of rights. That is the lesson here: not the wordplay, papercuts, etc. In the present sense he needed to eat.

7 May at 07:34

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Paul Curtis

SANTOS BONACCI SPEAKS AFTER COURT - EXPOSES ENTIRE LEGAL FRAUD TO NEWS
Very few have had the opportunity to speak with such depth to the open public, Santos is for sure a pioneer in the next level of human emancipation.
Published on 10 Feb 2014
https://www.facebook.com/santos.bonacci
http://www.resistance2010.com

7 May at 16:48

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Vicki Victoria

Yes Arthur & Fiona...we are all equal. It's just that some are more equal than others. It's Cabalian mathematics.

7 May at 17:41

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Arthur Cristian

The main reason people go to court over statute "claims" is the reaction to trauma of having something they "claim" they "own" being taken from them down-the-line (the future being controlled by the past ruling the present), including garnishing bank accounts, stealing of assets such as a car, motor bike, computers, household furniture, electric guitar, home, land, etc, and even the physical body under the image-power of "name".

Then there is the trauma over loss of credit rating, obstructions put in place to stop them accessing gas, electricity, credit cards, etc, etc, and even the propaganda put in place that stops them getting employment down-the-line.

There are many types of reaction to trauma, the pull of e-motion that COMPELS a fallen-MAN to make a physical appearance at court, to be caught.

The fact that the Mountain MAN turned up is a blatant admittance that he is the "right party", the re-presentative of said "name" encoded on said "claim", that being the statute penalty being imposed (but actually on offer) upon "name".

At this point he has already been defeated. Now its all up to the judge/magi-strate to determine just how much of a curse the Mountain MAN will process but even this is set into motion by the Mountain MAN because the statute rulings and penalties were already advertised. The menu was already set. The magistrate just has to determine which item on the menu he can be persuaded to order.

The Mountain Man has taken the offer to process the curse. Everything in statute law is designed to make the victims process the curses and not the judges, barristers, etc.

Money/Commerce IS THE PROCESSING OF CURSES. Nothing else is going on.

As we said, ONLY a fallen-MAN would accept the authority, the power, the control of another MAN and therefore place their re-presentation of "name" under the standing of another MAN performing in the "name" with costume and title. This is already the processing of curses being set into motion.

This MAN, Arthur, will never go to their courts regardless of whatever "claims" they throw at this MAN. They will have to kidnap the physical body because an appearance any other way is admittance of claiming the "name". Arthur has no claims to the "name", and hasn't been making claims on the "name" since 2009 so they would have to come up with a scam, or make a claim that he has harmed someone as an excuse to drag the body in.

In the story of the Great MAN of long ago, he doesn't go to their courts until they take him there by force and then he remains silent.

He recognised that he was not of their world and had no need to go there, which forced the hand of the perpetrators as they had to go and kidnap his body and bring him before Rome, the Sandringham bloodlines and the pharisees, who were all in commerce, all colluding together to keep everyone under their power and control.

He didn't need to talk because they were not his masters and he did not accept their curses. Even before they took his body, he had already created a dream to return the curses. The dreaming of this dream by him and others who had woken up set into motion the downfall of Rome, with earthquakes, hurricanes, tsunamis, lands sinking and rising, volcanoes erupting, etc, etc, although you won't find the earth-wide extent of destruction recorded in their books in relation to the living-dream set into motion by the Great MAN.. (They had to keep all this secret, they did not want their recaptured educated slaves to remember the truth about curses and processing curses down-the-line - hence they created carbon dating, new "time codes" for calendars, revision/rewrite of all recorded his-story/her-story set to the "time codes" of BC and AD - make everything appear to have happened at different points of time, 10,000BC, 5000BC, 3000BC, 900BC, 33BC, 33AD, 150AD, 450AD, 1100AD, 1500AD, 1780AD, 1845AD, etc, etc = all bullshit)

Why do we say this then? Look at what we and others are doing now to turn back the curses and remove this evil system from Earth. Unless we get remedy happening, we will be in for wild weather too, as Earth corrects the balance.

All paperwork and filing is an admittance that you are their slave to "name" and that you accept their power and authority over you, accepted Rome and Babylon, accepted the curse. Even when you are talking to the representatives, the clerks, etc, you are accepting everything of "The System" by default. You cannot be in "The System" and not of it, UNLESS you give up everything of "name", in and of "The System". This is where the freeman/sovereignty movement shows up as just another Yellow Brick Road.

Now comes the issue of greed and selfishness, fear and uncertainty as people wrestle with the idea of giving their system comforts and privileges up, including the "protection" that comes from the system lackeys. And laziness because most people don't want to do the work needed to get out. They want the bells and whistles but they don't want to be answerable to those providing the privileges. And so the life of slave to "name" defaults, defaults, defaults, defaults, defaults to the slave masters every moment in every area of their system life. Trapped - trapped - trapped - trapped - and winging and whining and moaning and groaning and complaining and arguing and fighting and reacting to trauma as the rot of being a fallen-MAN continues descending further and further and down and down and down into this man("self")-made darkness called HELL, "The System".

Simon, this was how Mountain MAN brought it upon him"self" ("name").

Again, please read the posts we put up this year as found in the Sequential Order. :)

7 May at 19:24

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Dominic Toomey

no name eman on

7 May at 19:27

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Arthur Cristian

Thanks Dominic, we posted this e-man elsewhere on FB a few weeks ago. A woman reminded us of it which triggered our "memories" some years ago when, with others, we discussed the significance of Name being reversed = e-man It was only during this past year that the final pennies dropped about the pull of e-motion being ego (e-go) that is "name" and how "name" ties in with trauma/reaction to trauma (compelled to perform the priest instructions = robots/slaves/drones) and how "name" is the vehicle that activates the holy ghost of "name", the E-GO (ecclesiastical program set into motion = drone/robot.slave) that is a demon crafted by these warlocks/witches to possess us of our "own" making/doing and thus be remotely controlled without realising/sensing-this-slight-of-hand trickery.

Thank you so much for adding the on.

Awesome mate, awesome....

NO NAME = E-MAN ON -----

They are so devious these black-magic sorcerers.

7 May at 19:52

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Dominic Toomey

thank you for figuring it out,

7 May at 20:03

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Dominic Toomey

Just a thought isn't man also a title?

7 May at 20:42

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Vicki Victoria

...I think it's mankind, hu-man, person, agent are titles.

7 May at 20:44

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Dominic Toomey

so really we're nothing,while paradoxically everything

7 May at 20:45

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Dominic Toomey

?

7 May at 20:46

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Dominic Toomey

telepathy needed

7 May at 20:48

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Vicki Victoria

I think that a title is the removal from the real thing...us....and the word man is an expression of what we are. Courts won't use it.they will only use words like person, agent, citizen etc.

7 May at 20:48

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Vicki Victoria

Ha ha ha aha!!!! Well, that makes courts dead boring!!! Literally!

7 May at 20:49

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Dominic Toomey

only that "man" is a 'word" & a "spell".

7 May at 20:56

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Arthur Cristian

Exactly MAN is not a reflection/shadow of MAN but "hue-man", "name", "agent", "citizen", "person", "ego", is a reflection of the MAN. Really, we should not even say MAN but we are all using this English language rooted in duality (shadows/reflection) to describe who we really are because we don't know another way. So the intention is that MAN is who we really are and not the reflection of MAN that is the hue-man, name, etc. MAN has no reflection, it is not a "name" therefore is not a "title", otherwise, my name is MAN, and MAN is clan name, surname, middle name, christian/first name, and MAN is addressed at such and such., is on drivers license, birth certificate, etc........... Even their greatest attempts at lying still can't disguise all truth in shadows/reflections of duality. They worship the shadow world. It is very very simple what they do.

7 May at 21:01

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Vicki Victoria

Arthur, what about women? Are we a Woman...or does that make it a title...as in the female version of man?

7 May at 21:10

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Arthur Cristian

Dominic, we are everything and everything is us = consciousness and is why everything of nature is of our consciousness, of our senses, we can touch, taste, feel, smell, hear, see the dreams MAN created/co-created because all of MAN that ever was and ever will be is the consciousness of the MAN we all are here and now. Without consciousness thee would be NOTHING to sense/experience. We are all the true "Gods" = creators of MANS consciousness that is MANS dreaming of consciousness.

7 May at 21:28

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Dominic Toomey

man is

7 May at 21:38

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Simon Kaiwai

Well addressed and said Arthur. Mountain Man does illustrate the folly of playing with words in their arena

7 May at 22:25

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Arthur Cristian

Hi Vicki, NO women are slaves for MAN, can't do anything about that, it's part of the built in clock that runs MAN.

8 May at 01:26

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Arthur Cristian

A MAN can't be in his cave without his slave outside slaving in the kitchen, laundry, doing the shopping, etc.... LOLLLLLLLL

8 May at 01:28

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Arthur Cristian

These images are the reflections/shadows of sorcery, re-presenting its inventor, his worshipers and his/their victim/victims (all of MAN). Notice the host is MAN possessed by the demon crafted remotely by Satanists/Freemasons = pentagram over pineal gland.

Pineal Gland or forehead = all seeing eye - this is where MAN projects/expands IMAGES to the dream of life using MANS breath to encode/embed the images being projected, being dreamt, thought, understood, etc.

Pentagram

Pen - writing word-spells

Gram or gramme - a metric system unit of mass - as in

Telegram - meaning, from remote locations they are projecting a gram = a demon cast in the water (a gram of water) of MANS breath and sent through the water (consciousness - the whole of the dream of life is water, is MANS consciousness, is MANS breath) to possess their targeted victims. They do this through Hollywood, TV, Radio, Music, frequencies, signals, etc, etc. They get the word-spell spinning through the education of their victims and in victims saying/thinking/believing a, b, c, 1, 2, 3, etc, etc, over and over again (lots of repetition going on in education to learn spells of mean-in-gs = understand - be under the standing of the spells of words/letters, etc) the victims are conjuring up and calling upon them the demons, the grams.

The demons are tele-ported upon them from Satanic covens, black-magic ritual sites so they can be possessed (hooded/shrouded/cloaked) by them without ever realising they did it to them"selves".

These black-magic sites are where bred or kidnapped babies, children, teenagers, adults, animals, are ritually sacrificed/slaughtered to capture the GRAM (that is the soul, the water of MANS consciousness/breath) departing the tortured victim = death. They capture these souls to use them in their rituals for casting demons in the water of MANS breath and to maintaining the frequency of TRAUMA/TERROR/FEAR, etc, so that MAN continues reacting to trauma that is the demon of "name" and have the demon maintain its powerful grip over its victim.

Pent -a past tense and a past participle of pen2.adj. Penned or shut up; closely confined. - describing the victims prison-cell that are the demonic images bouncing to and fro between the ears as echos of IMAGE POWER, thought control, "system thought", rendering the victim into terribly confined quarters where the Real MAN is squeezed out and the demon has hold of almost all of MANS thinking, e-motions, dreams, values, life-style, etc, etc, = life in "The System" that is a man-made HELL.

The Pent is the past, the education the victim endured over many many "years", that being the image power of the demon/demons spinning, whirling and bouncing to and fro between the ears of its victims who are projecting into the future, "time-codes" of system thought, that are the dreams victims are dreaming for, be it house, land, car, truck, motor bike, equipment, course, title, degree, etc, etc, through mortgage or savings or leases or dreams for a family/children/marriage, holidays, retirement home/savings/superannuation, food, water, materialism, consumerism, etc, etc, etc, and thus completely imprison/control the victims in present-sense, here and now throughout the whole of their life-"time".

The all-seeing-eye (i) is the "NAME" of the demon that possesses MAN and traps MAN because this is all that MAN sees, that being the word-spells of "System Thught" crafted by black-magic priests and projected their read and write alphabet languages

Please WAKE UP EVERYONE - Wake Up - Wake Up - Wake Up.

9 May at 15:03

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Arthur Cristian

E-MAN - The Name Of The Beast Is MAN by Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 9th May 2014 - We quickly put together this post using bits and pieces of posts we put up over the "past" few "days". All together it clearly explains what is exactly going on behind the works of Santos Bonacci, Dalai Lana, David Icke, etc......

The E-MAN is the hue-MAN, the fallen MAN under the "spell" of the "ecclesiastical orders" of black-magic priests, priestesses, warlocks, witches, sorcerers, found behind ALL religions, New Age, Commerce, Politics, Law/The Bar, Civilisations = "The System", Education, Universities, System Science, System Thought, Mathematics, Geometry/Sacred Geometry, Read & Write Alphabet Languages, Recorded His-Story/Her-Story, Philosophies (all are rooted in "The System"), etc, etc, all of which are PSYOP PROGRAMS for drones to perform under.

The E-MAN/Ecclesiastical MAN is the priests slave, drone robot = the hue-MAN.

The "NAME" reversed is E-MAN

The "NAME" is the E-GO - the ecclesiastical instruction/program crafted and encoded in/as a demon to possesses you under "NAME'.

Under demon spells that is a trance "state" caused by demonic possession (possesSION/possesZION), the "name" of victims are under the IMAGE POWER of "NAME".

Via remote control, remote viewing & remote projection of non-sensory images*** slaves are under the image-power and image-control of any and ALL ecclesiastical orders of Satanism/Freemasonry (E) - they instruct/guide (GO) their captured slaves to do whatever they want them (COMPELLED) to do.

*** (books, history, fairytales, myths, legends, religions, astrology, numerology, astrotheology, mathematics, alphabets, geometry/sacred geometry, astronomy, "system science", alchemy, all occults, esoterics and all university/uni-verse-i-ty courses/careers, titles, standings, costumes, etc, etc, basically everything of "The System" coming from recorded ancient "times" until "today" - this includes the "name" of plant, creature, insect, natural elements in soil, water and air, environment, landscape, horizon, celestial bodies, anything that has a "name" = "word"/"letter"/"number"/"angle/"shape"/"dimension"/level"/"measurement"/"time"/"space"/"distance"/"location"/etc, etc, etc, etc,......)

They always provide a wonderland setting (the matrix/"The System"/all-civilisations) for their Alice-slave to enter through the looking glass of their image-power and image-control. These demonic images bouncing to and fro between the ears as e-chos (cho = resonating frequency of a chord/sound/word) are forecast from a "past" and projected into a "future" to enslave the victim (self-fulfilling) in their wonderland-matrix here and now ,in present-sense. The "name" is found throughout everything listed here ***. This clearly tells you what is really going on.

The "NAME" is the DEMON and is the HOOD of the brotherHOOD/sisterHOOD to cloak victims, educated-slaves, with.

The demon, "name", e-go, is the marionette and the ecclesiastical order is the master puppeteer/s.

The "NAME" is ALWAYS under the administrative control of the E-STATE, the ecclesiastical "state", both as the real-estate (the "intellectual property, superimposed over land) and the brainwashing/braindirtying psychological "state" (the IMAGE POWER) a victim is under.

Under the power and control of the real e-"state" of "New South Wales" or "California", the Freemasonic/Satanic ecclesiastical order/s will issue a slave, whose holy-breath is losing its grip, a psycho order.

Now the drone is under the horrific maintenance care of brainwashed robots called psychiatrists/psychologists, who work for the E-STATE, to adjust and tighten up the slave's holy breath, the e-go, the "e-man", and if required, administer (add a minister = priests) psychotic drugs approved by the Freemasonic/Satanic ministers of the "e-state", as part of the correctional psycho orders issued by the Freemasonic/Satanic (ecclesiastical) judges of the e-state.

Once all is well and back to "normal", the slave is released back into the money supply to continue performing in commerce (processing curses) with all other slaves under the image-power ("name") of the e-"state".

The "name" is NOT MAN, is not MANS.

The E-GO is THE HOLY BREATH crafted by the ecclesiastical orders.

"The System" of govern-MEN-t, law, religion, commerce, money, insurance, university, etc, etc, etc, EVERYTHING of "The System", is the matrix of the E-STATE which was crafted out of black-magic for the "soul" purpose of assimilating captured babies/children of MAN into drones, the e-mans or hue-mans - and be enslaved under the power and control of ecclesiastical orders for a life-"time".

They do not want anyone to e-s-cape.

Cape = the cape of the holy breath must remain on forevermore.

Escape - scape = Scape definition, a leafless peduncle rising from the ground. Note leafless implying living-dead.

con-tinued (the explanation of the con continued)......
9 May at 16:46 · Like
Arthur Cristian An example of this deception looking through another window into their matrix....

PHONETICS - phon-e-tics -------- LOLLLLLL

e = ecclesiastical (black-magic warlock instruction)

phon = A unit of apparent loudness, equal in number to the intensity in decibels of a 1,000-hertz tone perceived to be as loud as the sound being measured

tic = A tic is a sudden, repetitive, nonrhythmic motor movement or vocalization involving discrete muscle groups. Tics can be invisible to the observer, such as abdominal tensing or toe crunching. Common motor and phonic tics are, respectively, eye blinking and throat clearing. Tics must be distinguished from movements of other movement disorders such as chorea, dystonia, myoclonus; movements exhibited in stereotypic movement disorder or some people with autism; and the compulsions of obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) and seizure activity.

ph = In chemistry, pH (/piː eɪtʃ/ or /piː heɪtʃ/) is a measure of the acidity or basicity of an aqueous solution.

The pH scale is traceable to a set of standard solutions whose pH is established by international agreement. pH measurements are important in medicine, biology, chemistry, agriculture, forestry, food science, environmental science, oceanography, civil engineering, chemical engineering, nutrition, water treatment & water purification, and many other applications. Mathematically, pH is the negative logarithm of the activity of the (solvated) hydronium ion, more often expressed as the measure of the hydronium ion concentration.

PH also means a "state" of brainwashing in practise (set into motion)...... "I have a PH'd in such and such......

You can easily see/sense how phonetics describes a brainwashed drone under the pull of e-motion instruction (image-power) coming remotely from the story-tellers of black-magic as in Satanic/Freemasonic warlocks, witches, high-priestHOODS, priestesses).

Everything to do with E-MAN is DARKNESS, is of HELL, is spiritual suicide to MAN and is "self"-centeredness and to do with DOING HARM.

English is Hieroglyphics, each letter is a picture encompassing an ecclesiastical motion, this is not disregarding the codes of meanings used to communicate an "illumined light" (double-speak/triple-speak) between the initiated into such secrets.

The separation of the ways has begun.

Everyone has the choice between eternal life and eternal death.

Those who choose to worship the lie ("name" and everything of "name" = "The System") are being culled.

They will no longer exist.

Only those who choose eternal life will sacrifice everything of "self"/"name"/ego to co-create Kindom in present-sense. They will be the ONLY ones who will make it - they are being protected.

Unless the free-will of MAN changes, not many of us will live to move on - a vast culling has began and all those involved in the lie will be drawn to where they need to be to be culled.

It is very very simple.

All those who live for truth will be drawn to where they need to be to avoid the culling process of the earth fever.

E-motional attachments to family, friends, children, location will only keep victims trapped and be part of the culling.

The separation of the ways has begun.

There is no turning back.

Those who live for dream of life (truth) need to start making the moves.

We have less than 5 years and we will not be surprised if it is now less than two years.

David Icke, Santos Bonacci, Swissindo, OPPT, Thrive, Zeitgeist, Occupy, The Bible, The Torah, The Talmud, The Koran, The Baghdad Gitas, etc, etc, etc, etc, are all part of the problem. They do not offer a remedy to depart from "name" forevermore.

They do not show you how to leave "name" forevermore.

Let them go and everyone else living the lie and don't be like Lots wife.

Earth as we know it is going through a massive change and it is brought on by MANS dreaming, a dream for change that started with a simple, peaceful, loving, do no harm way of life, MAN of "long-ago", now being fulfilled/concluded during the Freemasonic/Satanic engineered/crafted "end-times".

The "name"/word humanity = hue-MAN-i-ty is a fallen-MAN who sees the reflection of fallen-MAN through "i" as in all seeing eye (i). The hue in hu-man is a shade, colour, type, shadow, reflection of a MAN but is NOT MAN. Wholeness is true consciousness, has no separation and therefore can't be got at naturally/consciously, but through lies of duality, illusions are provided on offer by Satanists/Freemasons, for men, women and children to fantasise over.

While lost in the play of make-believe MAN can imagine that MAN is broken down into spirit, mind and body which con-structs (structures of the con) the illusory rules of the divide allowing lies to enter into the fantasy game causing MAN to create the delusion of a conflict that does not exist but while lost to such psychosis, it leads MAN to completely break down wholeness/consciousness through unnatural (non-sensory)/unconscious means.

The manipulation through the use of trauma and the reactions to trauma is what brings all conflicts to a head. (HEAD) The black-magic sorcerers of Satanism/Freemasonry intended conflict to be this way.

Using your senses (touch, taste, feel, smell, hear, see) have you ever sensed a "mind"? Have you ever had a direct experience with "mind"....... myyyyyyyy ....... iiiiiiiiiiiii ........ .nnnnnnnnnn...dddddddddddd - Are you aware that "mind" does not exist?

People who have really woken up are NOT against anything or anyone - only the LOST are against an assumed foe/enemy. Those who have really woken up embrace everyone no matter what the circumstance and they do this while remaining grounded, vigilant and discerning. They are not lost to flights of fantasy and THEY DO NOT REACT TO TRAUMA.

They are not being led by darkness/lies/fantasies/illusions/delusions/trauma/etc.

They see/sense life without the use of rose coloured glasses.

They are realists.

They create light for those lost to the darkness to return to.

They are not part of the darkness.

They do not run from the darkness instead they bring light into the darkness to dissolve it.

They will relentlessly confront darkness without ever being part of darkness.

They never run away from darkness, they are far more together/powerful than that.

To expand on these themes in greater detail please read and watch the Sequential order of Love For Life videos, articles, debates, etc, which can be found here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514

All the best
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

9 May at 16:48

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Connie Sponheim

This is one smart man....that judge does not expect such intellect...He is correct....she is too used to fraudulent activities in these kangaroo courts in the U.S...

10 May at 06:39

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Connie Sponheim

She has no knowledge of his 'universal rights'...she is totally unconstitutional....

10 May at 06:41

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Connie Sponheim

All she has is violence....her last hope...in order to proceed with fraud...I appreciate how articulate this man is...Most of us cannot verbalize all this truth in one sitting. They do not teach this in the govt. schools..which they most certainly should. We have been defrauded for WAAAAY too long... ~~~~~See the 'American Spring' ...march on D.C, May 16...go if you possibly can...we will need millions to rid this country of the treasonous regime now in power....

10 May at 06:49

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Fizz Gig

Trouble is most people have not learned yet that any and all government is tyrannical by its nature. Replacing an old government with an "new" government only puts you back to square one. It is frustrating and sad to see people making this stupid mistake over and over and over and over and over again. Abandon their leaky death ridden ship of destruction. We were not born to be the slaves of demented madmen, rather the co-creators of paradise!

10 May at 14:36

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Arthur Cristian

Connie, from what we found out, all 3rd parties,he was arrested and jailed. - everything he did came to NOTHING. Refer to the post which explains why it happened.

14 May at 03:40

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Elizabeth McCarty

It dont Matter

14 May at 04:14

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Connie Sponheim

A million THANKS Arthur....You have enlightened me in a most succinct fashion...I am very grateful. I will now research further...and be more ready if a time arises. Actually...I feel we do not have to walk into that court AT ALL. I should NEVER have walked into that court in WA state over a silly, no harm court order...I was intimidated of course. This is SOOO heinous..to intimidate..use violence...threats..just to extract money from innocent, trusting living humans on the land. These are just sick criminals..operating with impunity..over and over again...I am appalled that my parents did not know this..nor did my teachers teach me the fraud we are subjected to daily..in this 'society'..this 'matrix'.... hugs and abundance, Connie

14 May at 10:38

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Anthony Weston

Aurthur, if the judge has entered a plea of not guilty on my behalf. Does this mean they have made joinder to the living man ?

15 May at 04:59

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Fizz Gig

Anthony, your signature on, or consent to any contract for, or acceptance of goods or services of any kind in the System gives them all the joinder they want. Czars "carrots" are always tethered to Czars "stick".

15 May at 08:07

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Arthur Cristian

Anthony, under these conditions presented in your post, you are already a slave in "The Sysem" before, during and after the "judge has entered a plea of not guilty on your behalf. NOTHING HAS CHANGED. A mini-slave victory is a little sweet lolly given to you by your slave master, but the sweetness ONLY lasts for a few "minutes" before its effect has faded away completely, BUT, if you ever let them down again, betray them, break their "laws", etc, down-the-line, WATCH OUT = NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

15 May at 19:39

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Anthony Weston

Hey Aurthur. I am still to goto court on the eleventh of June. When you stated before the trauma is life draining, the anguish in waiting is unbearable at times. I am trying to figure out what my stance is to this. Have I accepted a contract by the judge entering a plea on my behalf, even though I stated "No plea" ?
I have been reading this post but still feel a bit lost

15 May at 19:54

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Arthur Cristian

Send me your landline number (not mobile) via FB PM and Arthur will call you to have a chat ASAP, an early afternoon over the next few days. You need to be free of trauma distractions so you can think clearly Anthony. Make sure you go to bed early every night and get used to having a good long peaceful sleep, start focusing on happy bright thoughts, see the beauty/good in everything to help with calming your head down, all the chit chat going on between your ears is killing you, are demons draining your life energy and you are the cause of this, you need to eat raw-living food, stop eating cooked/processed food, liquids, stay away from drugs, social or not, alcohol, gambling, sex, tv & internet as much as possible, to help with calming everything down, go for a long run or fast walk every day or a walk or swim amongst nature. This is FAR more important than the court case right now.

15 May at 21:54

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Arthur Cristian

The fact your "name" is presented in court is a NO NO - you are already stuffed. However, there is a remedy but it requires a lot of letting go, most find this TOO difficult (lazy, greedy, selfish, fearful, deeply traumatised, etc) otherwise give in, be guilty (assuming it's just statute penalties/fines, etc - if you have injured someone or damaged-property or broken the peace, committed a crime, etc, then it's a different matter), arrange to pay off all the fines, you can negotiate, be compliant, do what they tell you to do, be a good boy, and get on with your life and keep them out of your life. Currently, you are obviously in over your head and have not put in the many years of practical experience homework required prior to taking on matters like the one presently being thrown at you. If you cannot stand on your feet you are ruined before them....... You must be always coming from strength, NEVER from weakness. Trauma/reactions to trauma is weakness visible.

15 May at 22:06

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Kev Emp

loved this video thanks Arthur for the posting,

15 May at 22:35

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Connie Sponheim

Here is what I know..about this court gig. Don't go.. In other words..if someone is doing a 'court order' against you..as was my case...don't go into that court. You contract when you step into the courtroom. If they have any evidence of 'harm'...they must produce it, have it...then they subpoena you...THEN you probably should go into the courtroom. Have your knowledge with you..or an honest attorney, (hard to find..but possible)...If I had never stepped into that court, and hadn't signed a contract (I was so naive)...I would never have been guilty of 'violating that contract'..and would never have gone through the trauma that I did with 'psychotic authorities'... My daughter did all this to me (and she may very well be mentally ill, I do not know)...me, a loving, innocent mom...and she did it with the help of her father, who wanted revenge for my leaving the marriage and taking 'his money' (which was really ours)... People use these corrupt systems to get revenge upon others. All in all...do not go into that courtroom unless you are threatened or subpoenaed .....

16 May at 01:53

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Arthur Cristian
The contract IS the benefits/services/privileges received under/to the "name" you re-present/perform for. Drivers license, car registration, passport, medicare, credit card, bank account, mortgage, lease, gas, electricity, telephone, internet, electoral role, etc, etc..... Unless you give up everything of "name" YOU ARE STUFFED, because you are in their world and of their world (they have the evidence to prove it), and because you presently do not have "community immunity"behind you to protect you from the attacks wielded by FORCE to make you, their slave, pay (process curses), one way or another. :)

16 May at 04:43

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Arthur Cristian

Connie, you threw away the true freedom of the Original MAN you really are for the impostor that is the "name" you receive benefits for. You are already stuffed before, during and after the court case because you have already agreed to be ruled by the statute laws already in place. And it is the "statute" laws that determine THE RIGHTS OF YOUR "NAME" (person/strawman/etc), that is the performance of "name" in "The System", the how, when, where, why, etc, etc, what you can do and what you can't do and what the costs/rates/fees/charges are....... etc, etc...

You are already up against it by the fact of the many contract's "name" has enjoindered to receive the benefits, services, privileges.

You really have to have your head switched on before you start dealing with the courts on your terms - remember, they can garnish "name's" bank accounts, steal "names" assets or send "name" to a correctional center for enforced labour or for a psycho-adjustment using psycho-drugs.

16 May at 04:51

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Kenneth Jeffrey Slem

Hi
hiccup
he he he
Have fun
We are kicking ass.

16 May at 05:11

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Arthur Cristian

Innocent or not, there is a lot of lies being peddled in this video.
See if you can work out what they are and post them here in the comments section.

Video: The Natural Man

Published on 1 Dec 2013 - This is the whole presentation from Ernie Tertelgt on January 31, 2013 in Billings, MT. He gives a presentation of the enemy within. Who they are and how they operate. An online dictionary of the origin of words http://etymonline.com - I have noticed some ad hominem attacks against Ernie. Those doing the attacking are attacking his character and not his message. Those who are attacking his message are not showing evidence that he is wrong. If you think he is wrong, please explain how you think he is wrong. Otherwise, you are just making yourself appear foolish.

We posted this comment to the YouTube video....

This post clearly explains exactly where Ernie is misleading him-"self" and everyone else who believes in the information Ernie is sharing.

E-MAN
The Name Of The Beast Is MAN

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 9th May 2014
Includes Mountain MAN Arrested
Facebook Discussion About "Name"
Uploaded 25th June 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8528

We are most happy to have a chat with Ernie if he is up to it, recorded or not.

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Video: Tertelgt aka The Living Man Interview
Exclusive interview with Ernie Wayne Tertelgt aka The living Man

Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9ce_1385335555#zhReGmiuzVoC7clm.99

Video: Ernie Wayne Ter Telgte (tertelgte) Before
Three Forks Justice Court Hearing
What Your NAME Means

Video: Ernie Wayne Ter Telgte (tertelgte)
The Montana Living Natural Man, On Oaths And Bonds

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Link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203651756842542

Note: Sequential Order and other Facebook discussions are copied below - click on "Read More" below.

The Cristian Family November 2006

Introduction To The Sorcerer Santos Bonacci

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

6th May 2014

Link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203647275930522

We all have to watch out for the reflections of "name" that is "ego". While reflecting upon the "illuminated light" of "name"/"ego", at any moment we can be trapped without realising the hypnotic gaze pulling us deeper and deeper and under the image power of its "transcendent maker". We saw this explanation about the work of Santos Bonacci (copied below). To those truly awakened it clearly explains the "craft" and "practise" of a black-magic warlock setting into motion "spells" which ONLY feeds the "ego" (e-go = ecclesiastical instruction/program set into motion to imprison you under its IMAGE POWER) that is "name". When you dive into "ancient" "mystical" works recorded "ages" ago, whose IMAGE POWER are you diving into (who do you-think crafted all this non-sense)? The Blackmagic High-PriestHOODS, Priestesses, Warlocks, Witches of Freemasonry/Satanism. As you read this introduction into Santos and his work please also contemplate on what we wrote about the "mind" of the Dalai Lama a few "days" ago....

"The "mind", the dalai lama refers to is a demon, a very powerful demon used to possess its victims. The IMAGE POWER of the demon of "sameness" was crafted to con millions under its makers intention, the outcome being apathy, denial, weakness, obedient "system slave", etc. The maker of this "mind" (or a "universal mind") = IMAGE POWER is one nasty piece of shit."

Astrotheology, Theology, Alchemy, Chemistry, Mythology, Astrology, Syncretism, Pure Science and Light (to us it really means "illuminated light" = shadows/reflections bouncing to and fro between the ears made up by others telling/instructing you how to think, feel and act) are of the "mind", are demons, to possess you under its makers and storytellers (sorcerers) IMAGE POWER which is all about feeding the "ego".

If you are not up to date with our writings and videos, below is a sequential order that provides the big picture we see/sense. We've done a lot of writing again this year about the "ego", what is it?, how is it formed?, what feeds it?, how to let it go, and how "name" is "ego" and is reaction to trauma, is the pull of e-motion (e = ecclesiastical - emotion = ecclesiastical motion = program/instruction for drones/robots/slaves), we go into curses and processing curses which is at the heart of "ego" (e-go = ecclesiastical movement/instruction or setting into motion the instructions coming from black-magic warlocks/witches/high-PriestHOODS/high priestesses of Satanism/Freemasonry. Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514

Introduction To The Sorcerer Santos Bonacci

"For over 30 years, Santos Bonacci has been researching the ancient works, compiling and translating them into more accessible terms in his studies of the various sciences such as: AstroTheology, Alchemy, Astrology, Chemistry Mythology, Theology and Light.

Specifically, AstroTheology, or The Holy Science is the basis and origin for all of our Myths, Legends, Fairy Tales, Nursery Rhymes and Folk Lore. It is also the Pure Science developed by the very enlightened, wise and ancient priesthood that give us the Holy Books of all religions.

Santos is passionate about Syncretism, of which he says, “Syncretism joins all the sciences where they dance together and are inter-related, because everything is inter-related.”

Santos lives in Melbourne, Australia. He is a producer of video lectures and special DVDs, hosts a weekly radio show on American Freedom Radio and presents regular Seminars and webinars on demand."

Link: blogtalkradio.com/theecochef/2013/11/10/santos-bonacci--part-one

For more on all this please refer to the Sequential Order of Love For Life videos, articles, debates, etc, listed below.

Arthur Cristian

The Cristian Family November 2006

Facebook comments in relation to this post

Note: Maria D'Ange https://www.facebook.com/m66ria?fref=ufi removed all her comments from this thread and removed her Facebook friendship with us. The replies to her comments give a very good idea of her part in the conversation.

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Arthur Cristian

We all have to watch out for the reflections of "name" that is "ego". While reflecting upon the "illuminated light" of "name"/"ego", at any moment we can be trapped without realising the hypnotic gaze pulling us deeper and deeper and under the image power of its "transcendent maker".

6 May at 03:42

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Alexandros Agelastos

Maria, get a life. No one is trashing anyone here. Go worship your idols somewhere else.

6 May at 03:42

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Arthur Cristian

Santos Bonacci, the MAN is not being harmed as we are not attacking the MAN, but we are addressing the demonic spells that he is under and exposing them because the victim Santos, an Intel-Agent-Provocateur, is spreading these lies to infect others with demonic possession.

6 May at 03:44

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Arthur Cristian

Back your claims Maria, prove what we are saying are lies.

6 May at 03:45

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Alexandros Agelastos

Santos is ignorant of the fact that he's doing what he's doing. He believes that he's freeing people, but in reality he is tightening the bondage that keeps them from realizing the truth. If you are, too, ignorant of what Arthur is talking about, do your homework. He is not attacking the man behind the name Santos. He is describing, commenting on the role that good man is playing. Not only Santos, but everyone who is trying to awaken people but never talk about the only truth in life, NATURE, is committing a crime against it.

6 May at 03:49

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Arthur Cristian

Maria, we go where truth takes us, we do not "claim"/"own" truth. So please show us where we are lying because we are always keen to learn more and more about truth.
6 May at 03:58

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Arthur Cristian

Belief is NOT proof of fact and yet Santos is making money out of beliefs revealing his deep-convictions to these beliefs...... Almost everything he is referencing, the storytelling, is bullshit. The FACT is Santos is NOT revealing truths because he would already have a remedy in present-sense that gets MAN out of "The System" forevermore.

6 May at 04:08

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Arthur Cristian

Here are some FACTS for you to contemplate on........

His-Story/Her-Story (History)
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
2005-2007
Re-posted 5th July 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8529

6 May at 04:12

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Arthur Cristian

We trash the work of Santos, we do not trash the MAN, Santos.

6 May at 04:14

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Arthur Cristian

NO... when lies are involved WE ARE NOT CONNECTED ANYMORE....

6 May at 04:15

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Anja Vis

well written as always Arthur and yes Santos work is helpfull to some extent , beyond that one must reach further and others sources of information and education.

6 May at 04:15

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Arthur Cristian

Through debate/scrutiny we have proven that the body of Santos work are lies, all of it....(see below). None of this exists, is real..... Astrotheology, Theology, Alchemy, Chemistry, Mythology, Astrology, Syncretism, Pure Science and Light (to us it really means "illuminated light" = shadows/reflections bouncing to and fro between the ears made up by others telling/instructing you how to think, feel and act).

6 May at 04:19

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Alexandros Agelastos

Maria. Relax. I love Santos. Arthur loves Santos. He is good at heart. He just doesnt know/realize that what he is doing is pushing people further down the rabbit hole. No solution to the never ending eternal problem of exiting the system. He has dedicated his life to his research, that is evident, and he is the best at what he is doing. But what he is doing is not freeing the hearts and minds of the people, but quite the opposite. I worried about Santos when he was jailed, i asked about him everyday, i talk to him often and we are in good terms. But that does not change the fact that i see the world completely differently from what he does. I, too, was where he is and has been for the past decades, but i took a step further. i discarded all the information and "knowledge" i had acquired throughout the years and i now am in contact with nature, living in nature, with nature, by nature, for nature. That's all we have/can do. No matter how many books you read, how much information you get stored in your head, your life is not going to get any better, unfortunately. It will only become more complex, because you will think that you know everything, but your life will still be a mess. Feeling helpless is not a goal, it is a stepping stone for something greater than ourselves or anything man made, i.e. all the books in the world. They are only destroyed forests and a lot of pain and millions of hours lost by billions of people before us. Instead of going outside and connecting to the only truth, the only source, our non man-made world.

6 May at 04:21

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Arthur Cristian

In Santos work, you can ONLY fall under a "state" of belief - nothing else is going on and every victim is TRAPPED IN "THE SYSTEM" with no way of getting out forevermore. His work is a PSYOP PROGRAM at play.

6 May at 04:22

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Arthur Cristian

Excellent post Alexandros.

6 May at 04:24

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Alexandros Agelastos

thank you brother

6 May at 04:24

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Arthur Cristian

Awesome mate, you are now on the REAL path of creating the Original MAN you were always dreamt to be. You cannot be an Original/Unique MAN while under the IMAGE POWER of another MAN.

6 May at 04:26

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Arthur Cristian

One correction........ Instead of going outside and connecting to the only truth, the only source, our non fallen-man-made world.

6 May at 04:29

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Alexandros Agelastos

hehe, point well taken. That's what i meant anyway, i still have the "image" of man as the fallen man in mind. It's cause they are too many that sometimes i forget what MAN really is.

6 May at 04:30

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Alexandros Agelastos

Maria, then, it is like saying that we should let scientologists be fooled and not telling them or their loved ones what is what. Stating your truth is not an attack by any means. Arthur is not saying that Santos is a thief or a killer, he is stating that Santos, by doing what he is doing, is helping the Satanists/Masons etc who he thinks he is hurting...

6 May at 04:32

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Arthur Cristian

Maria, instincts are of your senses but you are not using your senses when you fall under the image power (intellectual property) of another MANS making. Re-presenting "intellectual Property" is a blatant Satanic/Freemasonic trap. We've written heaps about this. Here is a recent comment posted by Raymond Karczewski that explains this deception very well...... "Truth CANNOT BE STUDIED. Only the Satanic ideas housed in the memory of the Intellect can be studied and refined. That is the nature of human ignorance which mistakes satanic cleverness for Intelligence. There are none so lost as those who reject the Truth staring them right in the face and yet cling to mythical beliefs gained through systemic Storytelling over a lifetime. You sir, are the conditioned blind being led by others who are the conditioned blind leading you. Look at the world your beliefs have produced. Hell, Isn't It?"

6 May at 04:32

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Anja Vis

Something more to belive in after all hours that i hade once put into listening to santos work. Today my intuition "forbids " me to listen to him more. But we are in different stages thou. The remants of new age training that we all got under a longer period of time has to dissolve at one point and that is this point. The problem "of ours" is "situated" and stored at completely another place that it was told by all those prophets and their students. at one point santos teaching were also usefull, but has nothing to do with what real problems are situated. It was like going to movies and seeing a nice relaxing lecture and believing it will resolve onces problems. Further from truth was that instedad. Our problem is completely different that what those teachers like santos make us belive knowingly or unknowingly. I does not matter now. Each one has to proceede to nexts step in this journey, and there is another step of awakening which is harsher then getting a stone in once head 3 times or so. (english is not my tounge so i write as i think not as grammar would have me)

6 May at 04:33

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Arthur Cristian

Awesome post Anja..........

6 May at 04:34

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Arthur Cristian

Link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203645632369434

Also, please check out this thread too: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203584880810683

Sanitised wrote to us via Facebook private-message: "Hi Arthur. You certainly have done some superb work, I for one am extremely grateful for having found your work. When I have been talking to people about sensory/non-sensory reality. Where geometry is concerned, I thought ahh, inside an apple is a five pointed star, Flowers display geometric patterns in their form. So, what I'm wondering is, is the satanic geometry an inversion of something in the dream of life, is there a distinction between apparent geometry we see in nature, and pentagrams/crosses and the like.?

I ask because for years now I have painted mandala designs and I have found that for concentration and contemplation the process of making them as well as observing them afterwards, they have been a distinct part of my own 'becoming aware process' Nature has been the inspiration for my designs, but I don't follow any geometric rules as such.

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We replied.......

The thought of geometry, of lines, squares, circles, crosses, triangles are just thoughts which are reflections/shadows bouncing to and from between the ears = re-presentation of "intellectual property" - they are not real, not conscious, not sensory life-forms. Creating geometric patterns out of "intellectual property" is the practise of satanism/freemasonry as in constructing/engineering buildings, homes, cars, trucks, aeroplanes, rockets, etc, etc..... This process does immense harm to existing sensory-life-forms as they have to be destroyed/murdered/altered/manipulated to con-struct the dead-corpse material/physical forms/images of these non-sensory-images (there is no sensory-life-form embodied in these non-sensory-images).

This is a massive difference in comparison to holding the dream of a sensory life-form in present-sense, in focus, and creating it with your life-force-energy so it can be set into motion, be it a bird, plant, etc, and be free (apart from you) yet part of the whole of the dream of life.

The shapes we see in nature, as in the apple core, are not the thoughts of the shapes, they are the shapes of our (MANS) creations, of our intentions, of our thoughts set into motion in the dream of life, creating the shapes consciously (naturally).

Currently we are so terribly dumbed down, horrifically desensitised from the use of our senses consciously, and so used to re-presenting the thoughts, information and shapes handed down to us by others, that we do not think to be that it can be in any other way.

It is almost impossible to FULLY-comprehend that we are capable of true creation, of having a thought and creating it as a living sensory-life form in the dream of life.

Our ancestors could sense the force of the breeze, the altitudes, the hills, valleys, mountains, rivers, etc, all the natural sensory-information of "aerodynamics" that they needed for the creation of a bird to function, and for the bird to have a purpose for the dream of life, a job that is passed down through its progeny. They could contemplate on the wings, the beak, the feathers and the bones, etc, etc, etc, and recognise what was needed.

But we cannot learn this at university, or from a book, or a formula. We can only do this when we are fully conscious of the whole of the dream of life, with all the information of the dream of life accessible always. This is when we can set living-dreams of life into motion in present-sense, as opposed to re-creating the lifeless forms of the (non-sensory/shadow/reflection) images of other men and women implanted in their heads to be possessed by them.

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Sanitised replied......

Thank you Arthur, so all re-presented art is dead. so sensory co-creation is the only true art. the art of living or life.

What i mean is, we are either co-creating the living world, or co- creating the dead world, ?

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We replied.............

Exactly..... The consequences being the choice we all now have between eternal life or eternal death.
This is the price we pay for our stupidity, blindness, etc...

6 May at 04:38

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Arthur Cristian

See: photo A-1971-photo-of-a-nuclear-bomb-detonated-by-the-French-government-at-the-Mururoa-atoll-French-Polynesia-AP-Photo-650x401_zps461abd24.jpg

Copied from Facebook here: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203584880810683

3rd May 2014

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Alexandros Agelastos said:

"Brother, what do you think about this? youtube.com/watch?v=xxZ_htYh9go&feature=youtu.be Flat Earth Looks Like This From Space. (link provided below) (- Note: this video and youtube channel have since been taken down, We will try to find another copy on the net and put it up here. Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life)

Since our eyes also lie, maybe we should trust nothing... maybe we should just be happy, do good deeds, spread love and believe nothing, ever. Stories are fine, more than welcome, mind expansion is a great thing, but once we start believing, trusting something, it becomes dogma. Even our senses. Should a colour blind person trust that the world is as seems? or, as the dude said in the video, should we trust our eyes when we see a boat going downwards as it vanishes in the horizon? What is definite is that we have been lied to, and that we need to become one with nature once again. To let our children teach us instead of us indoctrinating them. And let me tell you, I love the "earth as an egg" theory, i don't know why but it fascinates me.

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We replied.......

The point in all of this Alexandros is we (MAN) were all supposed to be an unique, original MAN, not one the same as the next, but we were all kidnapped and raped from this "natural" outcome/intention dreamt for all of us.

We were all supposed to be raised in nature by nature all-around-us without another MAN educating/explaining/instructing us about anything we sense (touch, taste, feel, smell, hear, see) because this is the ONLY way we can each create our unique/original dreams, thoughts, feelings, ideas, etc, which not only creates the unique/original MAN we are creating but we are also adding to and expanding the dream of life with our creation/dreaming of the original MAN we are setting into motion.

All of nature was created with the soul intention of assisting in the creation of MANS dreaming. Every creature, etc, has a unique/original purpose for the dream of life. Before the fall into the man-made demonic ego = "The System" of "names", our ancestors were raised by tigers, wolves, bears, etc, etc, etc, etc..... all of nature lived for MAN and MANS dreaming because we are the true creators come custodians, caretakers, stewards (co-creators/team-players) of Nature/Earth which includes all celestial bodies/space, etc. From babies, our original ancestors slept, eat, cleaned, journeyed, contemplated, created, etc, etc, with our animal and tree friends, etc, etc....

The thought of MANS creation set into sensory-motion (bird, tree, insect, etc) was the highest ecstasy/joy/sensation/elation, every creature, plant, etc, and Original MAN, experienced and lived for, but unfortunately thanks to our fallen-ancestors and us we have abandoned our "stations", our natural roles as the co-creators of the dream of life.

This is where we all have to get back to, well at least set it up so that our children and the generations to come can get closer and closer to doing and being the living "Gods" (co-creators) of all of creation that our original ancestors (MAN) were.

No matter how dark MAN has become through ego-possession all of us have the natural instinctive longing, pull, draw, etc, back to nature. We (the love For Life work we have created and Anastasia of the Ringing Cedars Books) show the way back for everyone. There is no more confusion because we have removed all the lies so that truth only stands to guide our natural ways back to co-creating the original, unique MAN we were all dreamt to be and are dreaming.

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Alexandros Agelastos replied..........

"i totally agree... and you know what, we are not alone in this. something is pushing us towards the right direction. remember when you gave me the links to the books? a couple of days later a friend of mine visited me from Athens and had brought a book with him that he thought i'd find fascinating... and it was book 1 of the Anastasia series. That can't be a coincidence. My teeth almost fell out, but then i smiled and thanked whatever is out there, whether it's our own desire for the truth, or a conspiracy of like minded people's intentions, but whatever it is, it is powerful and can create what others strive to destroy with such might. We are here to stay."

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We replied......

It is MAN and only MAN creating everything going on in the outcomes/experiences/affairs of MAN.

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Alexandros Agelastos

"yup... they say "if you put your mind to it..." well, its "your mind and your heart", but its totally true. No matter what it was, throughout my life, whatever i really wanted to achieve and strove for it, i did it. The times i failed, i hadn't really tried."

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We replied........

To us, creation/Earth is something almost like this in a pure natural form, not generated by fallen-man-made bomb.

See: photo A-1971-photo-of-a-nuclear-bomb-detonated-by-the-French-government-at-the-Mururoa-atoll-French-Polynesia-AP-Photo-650x401_zps461abd24.jpg

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Link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxZ_htYh9go&feature=youtu.be - Note: this video and youtube channel have since been taken down, We will try to find another copy on the net and put it up here. Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life

6 May at 04:40

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Arthur Cristian

Astrotheology does not exist Maria. How long did it take for each child to realise that the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny are make-believe = lies. How long before the penny drops for you that Astrotheology, Astrology, Numerology, Mathematics, Geometry, Alphabet Letters, words, constructs, etc, etc do not exist, are make believe, are LIES????

6 May at 04:48

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Anja Vis

and now when we know that we can just breathe. what is there else to do??? Dumbed down unable to comprehend lige we might need to really alt least, liste to how our heart is beating or if we can spot the sound of our blood pulstating up and doen our bodies...perhaps feel the energy of a bird or a flower. in the end when all comes together we should cry some tears at least for all the BS that is wallowed by us and works throught us. That is why new Age religion is no more no less just a New CAGE RELIGION. Just another religion with ever worse effects on us that staying within that old religion would have us all. Well i don´t know, it seems helpless at times, so dumbed down we are, which way we choose to look at. old thought are governing we think them , same old every day over and over again, without even knowing IT posses us to nothing.

6 May at 04:52

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Arthur Cristian

Maria, anyone setting the way forward for MAN to depart from "The System" in present-sense forevermore is what we fully support, what we stand/live for, anything less than this keeps us all trapped in "The System". By the way, Arthur started doing this research work in 1971/72 and walked away, from what Santos continues peddling, in the late 70's.

6 May at 04:53

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Arthur Cristian

The point is, we can't have Love For Life while under the "spells" of anther MANS Image Power and that's because we are lost as the "egoic" drones of "name" under the controlling influence of our slave-master/s. Refer to the heading of this thread.......... "We all have to watch out for the reflections of "name" that is "ego". While reflecting upon the "illuminated light" of "name"/"ego", at any moment we can be trapped without realising the hypnotic gaze pulling us deeper and deeper and under the image power of its "transcendent maker"."

What do you think you have been doing during your waking life lost in the "storytelling" of Santos Bonacci, Giordano Bruno, Giovanni Pico della Mirandola, Bill Donahue, etc, etc, Occults, Esoterics, etc, etc, as in " Astrotheology, Theology, Alchemy, Chemistry, Mythology, Astrology, Syncretism, Pure Science and Light (to us it really means "illuminated light" = shadows/reflections bouncing to and fro between the ears made up by others telling/instructing you how to think, feel and act), etc, etc, etc.

You said "Again each to their own, no need to trash someone for his love of knowledge",......... this is why we trash the lies ONLY the lies........ unfortunately there are a lot of liars out there peddling lies making out claims that these "claims" (beliefs) are the "knowledge" of truth, of who we really are, what we are really part of and what is our true purpose for the dream of life........ ALL OF IT BULLSHIT.

6 May at 05:07

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Anja Vis

i don´t thinks santos will suffer from this Maria. he will do as he loves to do . no need to cover hom nobody is slaying him. this is for us who had passed that red line of recognishon that this was good then, but now it soes not do anymore for the journey...

6 May at 05:15

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Anja Vis

...hehe ...it helps no more on the journey...i should have said.

6 May at 05:28

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Arthur Cristian

Sense your intentions behind the fallen-dead-MANS alpha language (the New World Language).

6 May at 05:30

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Anja Vis

ye all those phonetics are more important that the lang-u- age tingy.hihi

6 May at 05:34

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Arthur Cristian

phon-e-tics -------- LOLLLLLL

e = ecclesiastical (black-magic warlock instruction)

phon = A unit of apparent loudness, equal in number to the intensity in decibels of a 1,000-hertz tone perceived to be as loud as the sound being measured

tic = A tic is a sudden, repetitive, nonrhythmic motor movement or vocalization involving discrete muscle groups. Tics can be invisible to the observer, such as abdominal tensing or toe crunching. Common motor and phonic tics are, respectively, eye blinking and throat clearing. Tics must be distinguished from movements of other movement disorders such as chorea, dystonia, myoclonus; movements exhibited in stereotypic movement disorder or some people with autism; and the compulsions of obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) and seizure activity.

In chemistry, pH (/piː eɪtʃ/ or /piː heɪtʃ/) is a measure of the acidity or basicity of an aqueous solution. Solutions with a pH less than 7 are said to be acidic and solutions with a pH greater than 7 are basic or alkaline. Pure water has a pH very close to 7.

The pH scale is traceable to a set of standard solutions whose pH is established by international agreement. Primary pH standard values are determined using a concentration cell with transference, by measuring the potential difference between a hydrogen electrode and a standard electrode such as the silver chloride electrode. Measurement of pH for aqueous solutions can be done with a glass electrode and a pH meter, or using indicators.

pH measurements are important in medicine, biology, chemistry, agriculture, forestry, food science, environmental science, oceanography, civil engineering, chemical engineering, nutrition, water treatment & water purification, and many other applications.

Mathematically, pH is the negative logarithm of the activity of the (solvated) hydronium ion, more often expressed as the measure of the hydronium ion concentration.

PH also means a "state" of brainwashing in practise (set into motion)...... "I have a PH'd in such and such......

There is more......... must have a rest now..... English is Hieroglyphics, each letter is a picture encompassing an ecclesiastical motion, this is not disregarding the codes of meanings used to communicate an "illumined light" (double-speak/triple-speak) between the initiated into such secrets.

Can you see how phonetics describes a brainwashed drone under the pull of e-motion instruction (image-power) coming remotely from the story-tellers of black-magic as in Satanic/Freemasonic warlocks, witches, high-priestHOODS, priestesses).

6 May at 05:49

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Kate Rene

One must always be the neutral, non-emotional observer diligently...if I were to allow my former ego personal aspect to get in the way, I never would have found what I did and share every night...I'm not sure how many times I talked with Santo regarding the NAME etc. but it couldn't be his truth or he wouldn't have buckled the way he did...9 days general pop is pussyville...I did 28 days solitary and owned 3 judges the day they let me go....talk about courtrooms shitting themselves...and I didn't know then what I know now....well said Arthur...I'll be discussing this on the show tonight.

6 May at 06:41

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Kenneth Jeffrey Slem

Why not aim for unconditional love ? That is wisdom.

I took up with a correspondence course of the Rosicrucians but I never got excited about learning to levitate because I wasn't into power or abilities other then the transcending power of love.

6 May at 08:25

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Timmy Brown

What a slanderous attack from people who barely know the man. This is not an example of unconditional love. I have personally sat with Santos in the park near his home bare footed to ground with nature as he does daily. The guy eats a strict raw vegan diet and lives the principles of do no harm. This is him now. I cannot comment on the past but this is definitely him now. It is said God himself judges us not until the day we die. You have no right. You do not know the heart of this man. I have watched him play with animals. Yesterday he ran out in front of cars to save a duck that had been hit and ushered the other ducks back of the road. He was visibly shaken with compassion and teary eyes as the duck had died. I challenge you to be humble and break bread with this generous man before you judge what you do not understand. Arthur I put you on the phone to Santos and you talked for a good half hour only weeks ago. He invited you to chat on Skype or visit any time. You have made no effort. This gutless attack on santos wreaks of a psyop. You also do not know his remedy for his court case and may find yourself eating your words when all is said and done. My closing statement on this matter is a reminder: Judgement is not love. The two do not go hand in hand. Those who judge are often disconnected from a part in themselves reflected in their perception of what they judge in another. In this regard, let he who is without sin throw the first stone. If your own theories on how to live are so awesome you shouldn't have to rubbish others in order to further your own aims. Nobody is perfect yet you seem to expect santos to be in order that you leave him in peace. This is outrageously hypocritical.

6 May at 09:08

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Fizz Gig

Wow! that was very reactionary Timmy . If you and Maria properly read what Arthur has written over and over again you will comprehend that he has at no "time" rubbished, trashed, or attached the Man known as Santos Bonacci. Arthur has only attacked the Lies that Santos and others are possessed by and are spreading. The Man known as Santos Bonacci may have only good intentions and not fully comprehend that he is spreading harm. Lies can easily spread like an infection. This Man senses that you both have good intentions and wish you both only the best. In an attempt to share constructive criticism out of love please look at releasing the trauma that has you react so E-motionally.

6 May at 10:58

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Paul Brooks

Geometry doesn't exist?

6 May at 11:02

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Timmy Brown

We are constantly expressing emotion (energy motion) as long as we're breathing. What emotion are you labeling me with Fizz Gig?

6 May at 12:36

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Timmy Brown

And having spoken to Arthur on the phone he had most definitely rubbished both the man Santos Bonacci and his motives. This dishonorable hiding of judgementalism is an act of deception. It is not condonable.

6 May at 12:39

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Arthur Cristian

Timmy, e-motion has nothing to do with feelings/senses.....

6 May at 15:07

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Arthur Cristian

Where we are coming from is clearly explained in this thread.

6 May at 15:07

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Arthur Cristian

We made it clear to everyone almost 2 years ago about our views on the work of Santos Bonacci. There is nothing secret about this, it's been out in the open for all to see including Santos. We always provide FULL-DISCLOSURE. So what is deceptive about this? We say that almost everything Santos is promoting is bullshit. If you do not agree then it is simple, back your "claims" by proving to us that we are lying about the work of Santos. Refer to earlier posts in this thread for more on this. As we say, we always go where truth takes us. Show us the truth behind Astrotheology, etc...... as listed above.

6 May at 15:15

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Arthur Cristian

And Timmy, you are blatantly lying about this comment "And having spoken to Arthur on the phone he had most definitely rubbished both the man Santos Bonacci and his motives. This dishonorable hiding of judgementalism is an act of deception. It is not condonable."

Where is the evidence?

You made all this up. These are not our intentions. All you are doing here is trying to create a controversy where there isn't one, that you are attempting to kidnap our characters so that you can impersonate us, making out what you say are coming from us, are our intentions, our creations, when the fact is you made it all up (make-believe).

The fact is we do not attack the MAN, we ONLY scrutinise and attack the lies which means we have to rout out all the liars who claim their lies are truths.

It is MAN promoting lies so we can't avoid the MAN when we expose the lies. Santos is lying and lying and lying and lying and making a terrible mess of many many peoples lives, including his "own".

Anyone who knows us will tell you from direct experience that we do not "hate" anyone, even those people who tried to murder us, kidnap Fiona, fired bullets our way, sent thugs to run us off the road, who hooded and hog tied elderly married supporters and fired a bullet into his hip and tortured them for hours, who were behind the organised crime syndicate that stole the family home, destroyed two businesses/cash-flows that forced us close to destitution and poverty (2005-2007) caring/raising four young daughters, who came as the 12-16 police, detectives, sheriffs, tow-truck-drivers, to steal family assets (twice), etc, etc, .... the list goes on and on. We do not have a gripe with any MAN, we only confront lies and their promoters that do immense harm to MAN.

6 May at 15:29

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Arthur Cristian

And Timmy, this is more bullshit....... "He invited you to chat on Skype or visit any time. You have made no effort. This gutless attack on santos wreaks of a psyop. You also do not know his remedy for his court case and may find yourself eating your words when all is said and done." The ball was left with Santos to initiate a "time" for a Skype conversation. He has not come back with one. We are still open to talking with him.

6 May at 15:35

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Arthur Cristian

Timmy, you are just trapped in the pull of -emotion that is reaction to trauma. Millions and millions of MAN will run out to save a duck from head on traffic, etc. This is not a measure of whether someone is truthful, sincere etc, this is just blatant pulling on heart strings! Some psychotic serial killers love animals and would do the same! We are not into judgement - we have both experienced too much - but we will scrutinise what people say and point out where we sense they are doing harm by spreading lies, particularly when they have influence over many people. We don't hate Santos or even dislike Santos. We just challenge him to prove what he is espousing and encourage him to scrutinise what he is saying so that he is not causing harm by spreading lies.

6 May at 15:42

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Fizz Gig

Timmy, This Man has not "Labeled" you at all.

6 May at 16:09

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Timmy Brown

Arthur Cristian you are a world authority, in verbal diarrhea. As you sew, so shall you reap. If you're getting shot at what is the lesson for you? Santos is a philosopher who studies and observes the miracles of natural order with gratitude and fascination. He then goes on to offer his perspectives so that others may appreciate as he has. The man is extremely generous. You are clearly kicking him in the guts with no regard for how he may feel about it. Time you admitted you're a bully and a thug, and wouldn't know a concise written response if it bit you in the nutsack. Lead by example. We're not supposed to be fighting amongst each other. Love is shown by actions not words. When are you going to see Santos as your brother and ally, rather than deriding him with your fear-based ideology? Would I have your consent to record and playback our conversation(s) in retrospect, showing how you sucked up and kissed up to Santos? These are all trivial distractions from the real creative endeavours we need to unite and embark upon in order to save the planet. Can you say SOMETHING constructive instead of focusing so intently on what you don't want?

6 May at 16:21

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Timmy Brown

Are you capable of remaining non-judgemental? To judge is to assume a fixed position in regards to a person or thing... It is on par with cursing another. It leaves no room for change, or for the possibility that you may be wrong... are you infallible Arthur? The map is never the territory, and we all have different filters. This is part of the beauty of life. It would be awfully dull if we were all alike.

6 May at 16:30

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Dominic Toomey

Thanks Arthur love your work, I did get to your site through a vid of Santos Bonacci,I like how you've broken it all down and presented "it" how it really is, you've made it pretty simple IE sense/ non sense . Thank you.

6 May at 17:05

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Arthur Cristian

This is the remedy that we've been promoting since 2009 onwards..... Video: Mountain Man arrested for trying to feed himself, owns judge and walks out (fixed) http://youtu.be/06VzxxDTnB8 - We (Fiona/Arthur) just watched it - Good on him. He needs to watch out for "contracting" with "name", because "self" & "person" reflects "name". Otherwise well done. He blew the judge right out of the water with his focus on "legalese".

The judges questions are actually claims in disguise. They are tests to see if he claims "name" thus making/en-FORCING all contracts enjoindered.

The truth is, these questions (claims) are not relevant to the living MAN. He has no need to answer them and should turn things completely about-face.

All he needs to do is ask the question, "Are these questions/claims relevant to the living-MAN or to a corporate fiction as in "name"/"person"?

And don't waver from this, no matter what.

Ask her "which one do you want here" - this leave nothing ambiguous.

"Who are you wanting to process the curse? You and your family, etc, etc, or someone else?"

If she tries to carry on, bring her back to the question. And if she doesn't answer, say, "Are you here to enjoinder a living MAN (men, women & children) with a curse, because this MAN does not accept the curse on offer?"

If you have asked her 3 times (the cock crowed three times) and she still doesn't answer, you can walk out.

During these three times, you must make it clear to judges/magistrates/authorities/etc that all lies are curses and that she is now fully responsible for the curse (claims) and it comes upon her, her family, her loved ones, her associates, her beneficiaries, etc, etc, who benefit from the processing of this curse/curses, from this point onwards, that is until she makes matters whole by ending the matter, whether you are present in the courtroom or not, when she does so.

You are equal to her and she is equal to you and you are removing the conflict of this "higher-standing" out of the way. If you are really smart there is no battle, no need to battle. You are peaceful, a MAN of Peace, love, truth, do no harm, etc, etc.........

You have done what you can to bring a cure to the matter and she is refusing to accept it. That is her choice. Now the conflict of processing the curse rests upon her shoulders, life, family, children, etc....... As a MAN of love, peace, truth, do no harm, you are here (caught-room) to make matters WHOLE, to free them (judges, authorities, priests, etc) from this curse. )Why do you think they wear black clothing?)

Back to the video, he has made it clear that he is not the "corporate fiction".

She asked... do you still live at (address)? - he should have asked the original question we raised right there....... is this question for the living-MAN or the corporate fiction?

Why, because he can make it clear to the judge that her claims in corporate fiction (legalese) are the offer to process a curse - what he is doing if he is conscious is to put back on to the living-woMAN acting as the judge to take on the processing of the curse (make her, the living-Woman process the curse).

This ends the matter right there and then because anything she does from this point onwards is her processing the curse which becomes everyone she re-presents and who act as beneficiaries of her lie to procure the MANS (the victims) exhaustion of his life-force-energy.

When you ask her the question, you can continue, "Because if you are asking the question for the legal fiction here, this is a lie and you are asking me to process a curse, because that is what lies are." This is all hidden in the legalese, which is the smoke and mirrors screen to stop us from sensing the Black Magic of processing curses at play here....... BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT IS GOING ON - NOTHING ELSE IS GOING ON.

The moment you ask her the question, you have taken complete control of the court (CAUGHT) room because you know who you really are. Not saying that what he does isn't great, just that this is a way to simplify things even more and get the matter over even faster!

There are many ways you can ask the question. You can say "Are you here to deal with the living MAN or the corporate fiction because this MAN is the living MAN, not the corporate fiction."

Notice how he doesn't let her intimidate him. VERY important because they rely on people being intimidated, unsure and easy to bulldoze this makes them easily susceptible to reacting to trauma = confusion, scatteredness, fear, doubt, uncertainty, thus becoming easy to be manipulated = compliant slave.

As to what is really going on please read/watch the Love For Life sequential order of videos, articles, debates, etc, we provide as they help anyone keen to to connect/sense with the big picture behind "The System" we see/sense.

Sequential Order: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514

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About the video............ Three Forks Justice Court | November 21, 2013 | Montana, North America

In a packed courtroom, 52-year-old Ernie Tertelgte told the judge "I am a living man protected by natural law and I have the right to forage for food when I am hungry... You are trying to create a fictitious, fraudulent action."

Charged with fishing without a license and resisting the arrest for fishing without a license, Mr. Tertegte says he's being wrongly prosecuted for trying to feed himself.

Tertelgte, 52 years old, was arrested on Monday and is accused of fishing without a license and then resisting arrest.
William Wolf said, "It's we the people that run this and rule this country, not we the courts, not we the government, and if the people don't start standing up for themselves and for each other, we are going to continue being subjects of this government."

Justice Adams set Tertelgte's bond at $500 and his next court hearing is scheduled for January.

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We are not aware of what has become of this court matter in "January this year".

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Mountain Man arrested for trying to feed himself, owns judge and walks out (fixed)
Three Forks Justice Court | November 21, 2013 | Montana, North America In a packed courtroom, 52-year-old Ernie Tertelgte told the judge "I am a living man p...

Note: scroll up this webpage to watch and read The Mountain MAN video and comments in relation to his actions.

Arthur & Fiona Cristian

6 May at 17:16

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Eilish De Avalon

Arthur, you appear to have harshly acted as judge, jury and executioner of a Brother here. Those that act divisive and judgemental in this late stage of the game are clearly still playing into the mental system's trap of divide and conquer. United we stand divided we fall. Rather than focussing on our Brother's differences, why not focus on the fact that you are both prominent outspoken sometimes controversial advocates of the Freeman movement united in the philosophy of resisting tyranny? We can all dissect each other here and single out each other's faults but imagine our beautiful reality if we celebrated each other's gifts instead? With love, peace and unity among Brothers and Sisters at the forefront of this global movement in our hearts, imagine how much more of an inspiration you could be if you weren't building yourself up at the expense of another like a fool in front of your own learned peers? This isn't a school yard bully ground, this is the world stage and you Arthur if you put yourself in a position of leadership should know better than to resort to such lower frequency black magick as to curse someone with such scandalous lies when you haven't even broken bread with your Brother and clearly from Timmy's own phone records have a recorded conversation when your public condemnation of the man in no way reflects your personal phone dialogue with him when Timmy rang you up and put the phone onto you to speak with the Brother in question. I encourage to stop digging yourself a bigger hole and break bread with Santos and see him with the wisdom of your heart not your threatened MAN EGO which this clearly is. The demons of the lower worlds would be feeding off this created distraction right now. I challenge you both to work jointly on a solution to rid this world of slavery and corporate fascism and give the People hope instead of seeing who can piss the furtherest.

6 May at 17:19

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Arthur Cristian

Timmy, scrutiny which is what we do has nothing to do with being judgemental. You are presently showing up as a religious freak trying to protect ones faith in such lies at all costs, even attacking others innocent to the "charged-up (e-motional outbursts) you are claiming here. Why are you scared Timmy? What are you frightened about? Could it be that what you thought was true is being exposed thus your pride does everything in its egoistic power to conceal this fact?

6 May at 17:20

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Arthur Cristian

Eilish, you are making a lot of claims here that are not true, do you actually read and contemplate on what is being shared and be able to sense/fully-comprehend the insights being shared. You are presently showing up as being part of a re-legion of fanatics, in cahoots with fallen men/women like Timmy.

Are you at war against MAN.

It's simple, prove what we are saying are lies. Refer to the Love For Life (Fiona/Arthur Cristian) comments posted in this thread as they explain the big-picture as to where we are coming from. Fiona is here writing and replying too (in-between children, household tasks, etc). Are you addressing everything here to Fiona too or just to Arthur?

Same with Timmy, are you addressing Fiona here as well?

6 May at 17:26

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Timmy Brown

I reject your baseless projections. Answer my questions if you expect me to answer yours. And what is your problem with emotion? You seem to have an issue with it.

6 May at 17:28

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Timmy Brown

Arthur do you give your consent to having your conversations recorded and played retrospectively? Yes or no brother? Do you dare?

6 May at 17:42

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Eilish De Avalon

I'm not at war against MAN, I was at the Bentley Blockade this morning standing with MAN at the dawn service deep in prayer for the end of this duality which you are just furthering with your own self-importance at the expense of another respected teacher in the freedom game. Timmy and I are not in cahoots, I'm not against you Arthur I'm just calling a spade a spade and you my friend are shoveling a tonne of bullshit right now against someone who has done nothing to you except invite you to a dialogue. Stop being so closed minded and self righteous. This is how you lose your audience and I do value your input when it's projected with a loving, honest heart not a black judgmental one.

6 May at 17:43

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Arthur Cristian

E-motion is reaction to trauma Timmy, it has nothing to do with consciousness/senses - feelings.

You can reject as much as you want but this does not prove what we are saying are lies.

Back your claims. prove what we say are lies.

We are not your slave, you are not our slave-master!

We are NOT answrable to you as you are not answerable to us.

What we do is use scrutiny to see/sense the lies and rout them out because they do immense harm to MAN/Earth/Nature and since March 2005 we are committed and determined to expose lies them for what they really are.

We are not interested in having conflicts/battles between MAN and MAN, we are only interested in men, women and children being sincere and pure in their intention to go where truth takes them which means that you need to prove what we are saying are lies because if you can't then you have to question the beliefs you are possessed by that currently has you in conflict with your brothers/sisters (MAN) causing you to lash out to protect what you "claim" you "own".

TRUTH does not require protection, truth exists regardless of how big an effort has been undertaken to cover it up, to distract truth through the illusions of reflections/shadows of a truth, of truths.

TRUTH is all about direct experience, first party to first party with a sensory-living-life-form. Truth has nothing to do with the re-presentation of "Intellectual Property" (shadows/reflections of truths) which Santos Bonacci is doing chronically - there is NO direct experience going on here.

All that is really going on here is having a 3rd party interloper, intermeddler, interceder, Santos Bonacci, come in-between MAN and MAN and in-between a sensory-life-form, inanimate or not, and MAN, to act as an"authorised" (author = storyteller) re-presentative of MAN and of the sensory-life-forms. Santos has kidnapped/hijacked that natural characters of sensory-life-forms to act as an impostor of them, making out what he is claiming is the information coming directly from the sensory-life-forms when in fact he is lying through his teeth because he and all other practicing Satanists make all this information up into make-believe for the duped like you to fall into and follow.

There is a massive difference between direct experience and NON-direct-experience. The Love For Life work explains all this in great detail. Refer to the early posts in this thread about co-creating Original MAN.

6 May at 17:46

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Eilish De Avalon

I have no issue with Fiona Arthur , I don't know why you feel the need to drag your wife into this - what, to test her loyalty to you or the Sisterhood? Leave her out of it unless she's answering of her own volition. I'd honestly hate being married to you and send Fiona my deepest sympathies for her choice in men.

6 May at 17:49

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Arthur Cristian

E-motion is reaction to trauma Timmy, it has nothing to do with consciousness/senses = feelings.

You can reject as much as you want but this does not prove what we are saying are lies.

Back your claims. prove what we say are lies.

We are not your slave, you are not our slave-master!

We are NOT answerable to you as you are not answerable to us.

What we do is use scrutiny to see/sense the lies and rout them out because they do immense harm to MAN/Earth/Nature and since March 2005 we are committed and determined to expose lies for what they really are.

We are not interested in having conflicts/battles between MAN and MAN, we are only interested in men, women and children being sincere and pure in their intention to go where truth takes them which means that you need to prove what we are saying are lies because if you can't then you have to question the beliefs you are possessed by that currently have you in conflict with your brothers/sisters (MAN) causing you to lash out to protect what you "claim" you "own".

TRUTH does not require protection, truth exists regardless of how big an effort has been undertaken to cover it up, to distract truth through the illusions of reflections/shadows of a truth, of truths.

TRUTH is all about direct experience, first party to first party with a sensory-living-life-form. Truth has nothing to do with the re-presentation of "Intellectual Property" (shadows/reflections of truths) which Santos Bonacci is doing chronically - there is NO direct experience going on here.

All that is really going on here is having a 3rd party interloper, intermeddler, interceder, Santos Bonacci, come in-between MAN and MAN and in-between a sensory-life-form, inanimate or not, and MAN, to act as an"authorised" (author = storyteller) re-presentative of MAN and of the sensory-life-forms. Santos has kidnapped/hijacked the natural characters of sensory-life-forms to act as an impostor of them, making out what he is claiming is the information coming directly from the sensory-life-forms when in fact he is lying through his teeth because he and all other practicing Satanists make all this information up into make-believe for the duped like you to fall into and follow.

There is a massive difference between direct experience and NON-direct-experience. The Love For Life work explains all this in great detail. Refer to the early posts in this thread about co-creating Original MAN.

6 May at 18:01

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Timmy Brown

Omg... am I in... CAHOOTS? With Eilish De Avalon of all people? What a harmful act!! And heaven forbid we experience EMOTION... What an awful blight on this earth... How can I EVER forgive myself?

6 May at 17:49

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Timmy Brown

How on earth is emotion reaction to trauma? Are you saying an untraumatised baby giggling with joy is a reaction to trauma?

6 May at 17:52

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Arthur Cristian

Believers in the "same" IMAGE POWER are in cahoots regardless of "time", "space", "destination", "age", "race", "culture", "standing", etc...

6 May at 17:53

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Eilish De Avalon

This would be a fabulous comedy if it wasn't a ship of foolishness. I'm done feeding Arthur's Monstrous Ego demon. Peace Brothers. I'm out of here not giving this rubbish any more of my time and energy. ||

6 May at 17:55

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Arthur Cristian

Timmy, you are deeply confused between the pull of e-motion and true feelings (expressions) of consciousness/senses. This is all clearly explained in the many Love For Life posts we put up this "year". It is up to you to put the effort in and do the reading/watching as we are not going to spend the "hours" here and now to rewrite what has already been written.

6 May at 17:55

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Arthur Cristian

Eilish De Avalon, so you have NOTHING to back your claims? Which means all you have on offer here are "e-motions" = reactions to trauma = possession by demons. This is explained in great detail in the Love For Life posts, refer to the sequential order for a list of articles posted this "year". We are not attacking you the living MAN, just pointing out truths as they stand.

6 May at 17:59

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Arthur Cristian

Eilish De Avalon said "I have no issue with Fiona Arthur , I don't know why you feel the need to drag your wife into this - what, to test her loyalty to you or the Sisterhood? Leave her out of it unless she's answering of her own volition. I'd honestly hate being married to you and send Fiona my deepest sympathies for her choice in men."

Eilish De Avalon, Fiona is writing these posts too, is 100% in agreement with everything posted, Fiona is FULLY involved - equal with Arthur and with everything posted in the WHOLE body of the Love For Life work we do, includes everything posted in this thread. Why are you not attacking Fiona as well? Why are you just singling out Arthur?

6 May at 18:08

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Alexandros Agelastos

some, here, seem to have a problem with "judgement" but still fight with every fiber of their being to defend others who not only judge but call names and have a dismissive attitude as the norm. Kate is the one who has pushed Santos into becoming like her, an aggressive, name calling (routinely) reactionary man. As i stated earlier, i love and admire Santos for his passion and dedication, but since he joined Kate in her shows, they've both been on a downward spiral. "stupid", "idiots", "fuck them", "eat shit", are the least of the characterizations used to comment on people who are unaware of what they're talking about. As if everyone's the same and should know what they do. Kate has been spewing lies, knowingly. She has been saying that the Phoenicians did this and the Phoenicians did that, seems to have a fetish for the Phoenicians, ignoring the facts, though. She has been telling people that the Phoenician alphabet is the root of the Greek alphabet, but ignores knowingly that Homer wrote the Odyssey between 900-800 b.c., during the exact period that supposedly the Phoenicians "gave" "their" alphabet to the Greeks. But, for the Odyssey to have been written in Greek, having used 300.000 unique Greek forms of language (grammar etc), the Greek language thus alphabet had to be in use for more than 10.000 years prior to that literary work of genius. So, how can anyone listen to Kate and trust her intentions? She adores to worship (by giving merit) the supposed letters and symbols of pirates because they don't exist anymore, but loathes to recognize and bow before the greatness of the ancient Greeks. And i would stop here, if i hadn't taken a step further, in recognizing that the Greeks were the first to have brought the curse of Saturn/Kronos/Chronos/Linear Time on (in) the Earth. It's all a work of possessed genius. Like Kate is possessed by her beliefs and mostly by her WANTS and shamelessly comes up and promotes her own his-story. Some of her followers are the most hating in-divide-uals i have ever come across. I'll never take lessons on ethics by fallen men and women. Say what you will about me, it won't change the truth. Your egos is out of whack and you are not part of the awakening, as much as you'd like to be. And like her and her followers say, "fuck you, you can fuck off and die. Oh, and i love you " lol

6 May at 18:18

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Arthur Cristian

Paul Brooks said Geometry doesn't exist? - Hi Paul, geometry is "Intellectual Property", is the re-presentation of "Intellectual Property". Refer to the earlier posts in this thread where we copied a chat we had with "santised" and with Alexandros Agelastos. Re-presenting "Intellectual Property" = belief, is NOT proof of fact. Belief is not proof of fact.

6 May at 18:20

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Arthur Cristian

Eilish, we go where truth takes us.

What about you?

Do you agree that everyone who has a conscience is dreaming to move away from "The System" of harm-doing, to live/stand for a way of life that upholds/protects freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, do no harm, no loss of uniqueness/originality, no slaves and rulers for everyone and everything = Paradise?

Do you agree that we must all rout out all forms of lies and liars because lies/liars will not have us return to Paradise if we set lies into motion thinking/believing they are true?

The point is, are you FULLY-committed/determined to rout out all forms of lies no matter what, that any lie is NOT acceptable and MUST BE EXPOSED FOR WHAT IT REALLY IS?

If you agree then why are you claiming that we have massive ego-trips when all we are doing is routing out all forms of lies so that none of us are trapped in the lies and therefore are free to move forward in the co-creation of Paradise all-around all-of-us?

Isn't it true that the way forward to the co-creation of a do no harm/Paradise way of life is the result of routing out of all forms of lies, that we must all remain vigilant and discerning with all forms of information coming our way and use scrutiny like a blow-torch to see how "new" or "old" information stacks up?

If you agree, then why are you having a conflict with us when all we are doing, without restriction or conditions attached to compromise us, is routing out lies?

Since March 2005, we have done all this Love For Life work for free, no conditions or contracts attached. We are not set up as a cult or a sect or a religion, we are not aligned to politics or "alternative whatever", we refuse to be part of any movement or society, fraternity, brotherhood/sisterhood, society, order, lodge, etc, secret or not, we refuse to be part of any think-tanks or economic remedies, we refuse to be followed or be set up as leaders, we refuse to take social drugs, big-pharma drugs, alcohol, eat flesh and blood meat and their dairy products, we refuse to eat and drink cooked, processed/ manipulated, altered, toxified nature, we refuse to gamble or have sex for the sake of "self-centered" pleasures, we follow a do no harm path which has us refuse to carry any weapons such as guns, swords, spears, boomerangs, nets, bow and arrows, poisons, chemicals, etc, etc.

Where in all this is the evidence of us having huge egos or being on an ego trip? We have never claimed to be perfect and we aren't. We have trauma to process just as much as anyone else does. We are not charging for phone calls like some people who claim to be committed to peace, freedom, etc. We do not encourage people to walk in our shadow. We tell them to work things out for themselves and then, if they want to, walk with us side by side to co-create the Paradise we dream of. We are talking about people coming together through strength and not weakness which means that, while we are the wind under each others wings, there is no one "out front", no one on a pedestal, no one passing the buck and blaming their lives on others.

We stand for FULL-RESPONSIBILITY/LIABILITY for everything we think, feel and do. What about you?

6 May at 18:54

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Timmy Brown

So Arthur Cristian you happy with me recording and presenting here for all to see our phone calls as proof of claim?

6 May at 19:07

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Arthur Cristian

Most welcome Timmy....... go ahead, we have nothing to hide or be ashamed off. Refer to our last post to Eilish above. We don't get caught up in the pedantics/semantics because it can take us right away from the truth of exposing lies. Make sure it is the full recording cause we've got a copy too.

6 May at 19:16

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Timmy Brown

Then play your copy and disprove my claim.

6 May at 19:59

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Alexandros Agelastos

οne has to prove his/her claims, not the other way around. Liars lie.

6 May at 20:10

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Arthur Cristian

We have no need to flaunt what we have. We only use such things in case of slander, lies/liars seeking to do harm to the family "again", harm to our credibility, integrity, etc.

6 May at 20:31

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Timmy Brown

We'll see.

6 May at 20:38

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Arthur Cristian

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Arthur Cristian

You see Timmy, we are not into doing harm to anyone anywhere, we just expose the lies that possess the liars influencing others into becoming possessed by the lies too and therefore cause the continuation of harm to spread without immunity to stop it. Like we said we have nothing against the MAN, Santos Bonacci.

We look at what we do in this way............ someone is infected by a terrible highly dangerous disease (lies) and the disease needs to be confronted and dissolved in present-sense so that it stops doing harm to the host which stops spreading its lies elsewhere to harm others.

This is called "Community Immunity".

We stand for "Community Immunity".

As we often say, the greatest lie and liar is the one closest to the truth, they cause the greatest damage of all. "Community Immunity" is a massive wall holding back an ocean of lies from getting into MANS thinking. Just one tiny crack in the wall is sufficient for the ocean of lies to seep through causing wear and tear leading to the crack becoming larger allowing more and more lies to seep into MANS thinking until the hole is so big that the pressure forces the whole wall of "Community Immunity" to collapse and all of MAN is enslaved by the trickery of fallen-MANS slight of hand (black-magic).

When you have a go at us you are having a go at "Community Immunity" as this is at the heart of all the love For Life work we've been doing since March 2005.

6 May at 21:40

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Timmy Brown

Your rhetoric has caused me to realise facebook is a waste of time... thank you

6 May at 22:29

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Paul Brooks

Arthur...geometry exists.

6 May at 23:11

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Arthur Cristian

OK Paul, so you say geometry exists.........

Please answer these questions with factual direct-experience, first party to first party incontrovertible evidence and we are not talking about men, women and children coming forward acting as impostors of Geometry, performing under costumes, titles and "names" as authorised re-presentatives of "Geometry" because this is fraud, is a lie, is lying. All forms of belief in Geometry is nor proof of fact.

What is the physical address of Geometry so we can visit Geometry, have a bite to eat and drink sitting around a tree having many a laugh with Geometry?

Where are Geometry's ancestors buried?

Where does Geometry's children play?

What of nature needs Geometry to exist so they may exist?

Can Geometry set its own image/sensory-life-form into motion as in does Geometry have free-will?

What does Geometry do for the dream of life that aids life in rolling along here and now?

Would we all suffer and perish if Geometry did not exist?

Where can millions of innocent children not exposed to "The System" or to anyone exposed to "The System" (with all its "System Thought" brainwashing) go anywhere in nature to learn about Geometry without anyone (already got at) having to explain it (educate) Geometry to them?

The point in all of this is this......... if Geometry does not exist as a sensory-living-life-form then it also has no natural purpose for the dream of life either and this clearly indicates/demonstrates that Geometry is just the black-magic of MAN-made craftwork, the intention being a blatant PSYOP PROGRAM to mess with the heads of every victim infected by these lies.

This is the ONLY purpose for Geometry appearing as an apparition, a make-believe con-struct no different to Santa Clause, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, Monday, May, 1990AD, Mars, "Time", Astrology, Aquarius, Zeus, Odin, Apollo, "God", "Divine", "Galactic Federation", "Reptilian Shape Shifters, Crop Circles, Money, Insurance, etc, etc, being make believe too.

Geometry is a dead-corpse-fiction in law and at law. Geometry can't walk, talk, think, feel, poo, wee, negotiate, contract, contemplate, co-create life, set Its "own" life into motion, etc, etc....... Geometry does not exist.

Now Paul, we have just proven to you that Geometry does not exist. Now please try to prove that we are lying.

And......... Did Geometry tell you everything directly about Geometry or did another MAN get into your head about Geometry? Please answer this question honestly as best as you can.

Again, this is all explained in posts like these listed below, it is a very big subject that covers many many facets to the scam behind this monumental lie conceived by the greatest liar of all, a MAN.

Please read and watch the sequential order (copied near the bottom of this webpage) - use scrutiny like a blow torch and go where the logic of truth takes you. "Take your time", just contemplate, contemplate, contemplate and witness the penny drop as to the brilliant slight of hand tactics these Freemasons/Satanists use. If you have already watched "Under The Spell Of Intellectual Property" and "The Name" Is The Mark Of The Beast............" and can recall its contents/insights then start reading these posts, most of them come from this "year".

6 May at 23:45

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Paul Brooks

You're implying that something has to exist in the physical world to have existence. Does love exist? Where is love's postcode? You seem to subscribe to the Eastern philosophy that all is illusion, whereas I prefer the Western philosophy that even illusion is very real...but both are philosophies and not the whole truth...I agree with Bucky Fuller's idea that to create a new world we have to focus on the new, but to ignore the present moment is one of the biggest crimes against creation that man is capable of, and to ignore the underlying energetic matrices that support physicality is just plain ignorance. Now before you barrage me with another load of old statements that don't directly apply, take stock that you have slandered/libelled a living soul, backtracked on your original statement when objections were raised, and according to Timmy you are refusing an honest skype discussion where you can voice your opinions in an open and honest forum. I think the only way for you to restore your honour here is to talk to Santos directly, as I must say I have lost all respect for you in the course of reading this unfortunate egotistical cry for validation. Are you a MAN of honour, Arthur? That's all that matters. Do the honourable thing and accept Santos' invitation to Skype, or I have to agree this smacks of a psyop...

6 May at 23:59

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Anja Vis

hoooooo.people that are saying Arthur should not chge are keeeping a court around him for what is his opinion, to whixh he has right too, has claims over and the right to take it any place he wants. But he still points the facts that what santos teaches is outdated, OUTDATED and was good at the time someone would need do dissolve some of the beliefs held thanks to pletora of beliefs spread around the earth by courts, religions, diverse books etc.Now it is time to go to the next step of awakening to understand what those theachers DO NOT TEACH ANYLONGER, or that that what they teack is NOT ENOUGH and part of this are pure lies. That does not mean that whoever loves santos should cast pies in arthurs and Fionas face bc he tells what his opinion build on facts is. For me either those are " coin tell pro " trannies " or new age trannis. Niew cage is the worst part of a psyop bc, thoise who come from that place are not CONSCIOUS about it at all. They talk love love love anop judgements and stuff like tthat.With bad jugemental ablity one has to fail, and we need to jugde what we hear or what others say too, or we loose ground. This is to be sound. The way some of you are SLAYING ARTHUR AND COVER SANTOS is exact what they say Arthur should not do, but they do it double up and are directly attacking the creator of this thread. New Age followers are dangerous to themselves and awfully dangerous to others they ever some in contact with.

7 May at 00:11

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Paul Brooks

Just to be clear, I'm not slaying Arthur nor sticking up for Santos...all claims are valid if done honourably, but Arthur is in dishonour here; it's up to him to prove his claims, no one else. Will you restore your lawful honour by accepting Santos' invitation to Skype, Arthur?

7 May at 00:14

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Arthur Cristian

Paul, Love is sensory, is the life-force-energy created and set into motion by MAN as a gift of life to serve the dream of life. Everything of the dream of life is created/co-created by MAN. Love is the result of MANS pure and sincere intention set into motion as a gift of life to support and expand the dream of life. Of itself, Love is not a sensory life form because Love is the water of MANS breath set into motion and is encoded/embodied with the thoughts, feelings, intentions of MANS dreaming for the dream of life and there it remains in present-sense to be sensed by the living, that's unless the fallen from the living, the living-dead do immense harm to the water of MANS breath.

Life is water - Love is water and MANS true consciousness is water too and all our ancestors are in the water of MANS breath of creation too.

Love is not invisible because love is the creation of MANS dreaming for life.

To go to Love you go to the MAN who created it and there you will find the living MAN fully responsible for this creation.

There is no outside or inside to water, no within or without to water, there is no beginning or end to water. All of creation including all celestial bodies and "celestial space" are suspended in WATER. Without water there is no LIFE.

All thoughts of the past and the future needs MAN to exist here and now to think and feel them. Without MAN existing in present-sense no thoughts or feelings of the past or future can be thought or felt. The motions of all of creation including thought, feeling, intention, action, etc, occur ONLY in present-sense and all information of all of creation is encoded/embodied in the water of every MANS making. All of MAN that ever was or ever will be is present to the water (LIFE/LOVE/CONSCIOUSNESS) of MANS breath.

Without MAN existing in present-sense the dream of LIFE will not be sensed and therefore no longer exists. People say that the trees, the stars, the nature, etc, will still exist and we say but yes you are a MAN in present-sense to hear the question BUT imagine if there was no MAN existing to hear the question to answer it.

Everything going on in the affairs, experiences, circumstances, etc, of MANS life, instant by instant, is created ONLY by MAN. We are all at the effect of each others breath and the information we encoded/embodied in every breath we breathe out. What we think, feel and do in present-sense is effecting other men, women and children across the other side of "Earth here and now in present-sense too because they are also present to the water of MANS breath.

7 May at 00:40

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Paul Brooks

OK...I see you avoided the uncomfortable claim that you are in dishonour regarding your claims about Santos, having refused his invitation. Will you restore your honour and accept his invitation?

7 May at 00:43

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Arthur Cristian

Paul, you have avoided answering any of the questions raised with you this far. Are you able to answer then with evidence to back your claims.

7 May at 00:44

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Arthur Cristian

We have not avoided your questions. we answered them all. Read and fully comprehend, use your senses, using non-sense will not get you anywhere.

7 May at 00:45

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Arthur Cristian

If you want to go more slowly, then lets go one step at a time. As you have raised the claim that geometry exists, lets first resolve this before we move on to the next question and then to the next one and to the next, one by one by one and yes we are using dead-corpse fiction language to communicate our intentions, we sense that "one" does not exist either.

7 May at 00:47

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Paul Brooks

My only claim is that you are in dishonour with regards to your claims about Santos, whether 'true' or not. Everything else is an attempt to distract from this. Libelling a living soul on FB whilst avoiding his invitation to speak is pure cowardice...

7 May at 00:48

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Paul Brooks

Will you accept his invitation to speak one-on-one?

7 May at 00:48

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Arthur Cristian

This is your belief - your reactions to trauma being set into motion. Are you claiming to know our true intentions, to know what are our true thoughts, feelings and actions behind what we say????

7 May at 00:49

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Paul Brooks

No, I'm claiming you are in dishonour. How will you rebut this claim?

7 May at 00:50

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Arthur Cristian

We never said we would not, refer to earlier posts in this thread..... are you not reading this thread to have a big picture as to what is really going on here?

We are waiting for Santos to make a "time" that is suitable for us to have a chat with him over Skype.

We gave him the "days" suitable and the "times" suitable because it is a challenge for both of us (Fiona/Arthur) to be together during the day for a few hours chat over Skype. We are still waiting for Santos to confirm tentative option "times" so we can confirm in advance with him when we can lock in.

Paul, are you our God?

Are you claiming the higher ground here?

Are you Santos Bonacci?

Are you now acting as Santos Bonacci?

Or are you having a multiple personality disorder issue going on and need our care to help you through it?

Have you been injured by us and we are not talking about make-believe e-motions of fantasy, illusion and delusion?

You have every right to use your free will in whatever way you choose, so do we.

What service have you provided us that has you make such claims with us?

Where are the obligations that has you try to enFORCE your standing over us.?

Please show us these contracts you have with us. We are keen to see what services you have provided that has you make claims of dishonor. This can't be make believe, it has to have substance to back it. What is this substance that has led to your grievance with us?

7 May at 00:58

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Paul Brooks

Excellent...look forward to it...with an upcoming discussion face-to-face with the man, maybe keep your thoughts till then instead of gathering an army on FB? No I'm just a lad with a spark provided by the Creator who witnessed injustice here and brought it to light, as is our duty.

7 May at 01:02

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Arthur Cristian

You have brought NOTHING to light in this thread thus far Paul. All you have demonstrated is confusion, conflict, etc, creating a controversy where there isn't one. This is not saying that you are not capable of creating unique original thoughts dreams feelings to expand the dream of life. We look forward to rejoicing with you and in the wonders of your co-creation for the dream of life.

7 May at 01:07

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Paul Brooks

That's your dishonoured opinion Sorry Arthur, till you voice your claims face-to-face with the one you're slandering, your words hold no weight with me. But have a smilie to sweeten the sentiment

7 May at 01:10

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Anja Vis

one thing i cant get , who do people engage in thhis at all when all it is leading to is the negativity they spread around them under the gaze and "name" of love.Instead od getting familjar with what whwn how and who and WHY such claims can be done. There is NO SMOKE WITHOUT A FIRE. people wil jump all over each other instead fo choosing to discuss the subject oh hand and adress it. Waste of time too.

7 May at 01:15

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Arthur Cristian

As we are still keen to resolve these claims with you, you are yet to answer the "first" series of questions raised regarding geometry existing. Do you have any evidence to prove that we are lying? If not, then what does this say about the claim of your geometry existing, implying that it is real and true? If you do not back your claims then you are the one now in dishonour Paul. We have gifted our waking life to co-create with you over the net via Facebook, we have not abandoned you, the sun still shines for you from our end, but what about you? Are you now hiding behind curtains and blinds in a dark-space cause you don't want our light shining into your life? if you don't show due diligence and respect then we know next time to just completely ignore you because you are not someone that has any integrity, sincerity, honesty, to spend "time" with. You can't be counted on, to be trusted as someone committed.

7 May at 01:16

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Paul Brooks

I agree Anja, and Arthur has done exactly that. Arthur, stop clutching at straws. If it makes you happy let's pretend I agree with you and geometry doesn't exist. Now that's out the way that only leaves the fact that you have slandered someone in the written form, ie libel. That is a Common Law crime. This isn't about me. I look forward to you restoring your honour as I have enjoyed much of what you've said over the last few years, and hope to continue to do so. And don't get me wrong, I'm not just touting honour like someone who watched too many samurai-movies, I'm talking of honour being the basis for Natural Law, one of the three laws that would transform our collective experience if abided by. You just broke the fundamental Laws by publically slandering a living soul, and until you cure that, you are not flowing with creation, so we have nothing to say...except let us all know when Santos sets a date.

7 May at 01:26

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Arthur Cristian

Posting the truth is not slandering anyone Paul. Truth does no harm. Prove anything we are saying are lies cause then we are doing harm to Santos and we need to make whole with him. The amount of people we continue to help who have gotten themselves deep into trouble with the law has exhausted many many hundreds of "hours" of our waking life helping to sort out the mess of victims influenced by Santos Bonacci.

7 May at 01:58

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Arthur Cristian

This is not to say that we are not helping others terribly damaged/misled by the freeman/sovereignty movement, people like Mary Croft, Robert Arthur Menard, Winston Shrout, Mark Pytellek, Thomas Anderson, OPPT, etc, etc, the list goes on and on and on. All those we have helped all know who they are. If they want to come forward on to this thread they can but they don't have to. We tell them to move on with their lives. Not be Lot's wife and look back.

7 May at 02:02

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Anja Vis

Paul I am acutally on Arthurs side, because i happen to i9nnerstand what he is coming from. Santos creates smoking screans knowingly or unknowingly. This is not what this is about, the whole quest of getting the right info that actually means to get one free from the lies that system presents.I only mean so many area taking this so personally and cover for santos, when he just lulls people to sleep. nice shows and so but it dos not take the system in our heads down. But makes us beliefe that if we know what he teaches it will make us mysteriously free.

7 May at 05:45

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Anja Vis

And it is right to call people out. IT IS ABOUT BEING HONORABLE just because of doing that. save many people from wasting their time and energy.

7 May at 06:06

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Arthur Cristian

Eilish De Avalon Paul Brooks https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=611896285&fref=ufi Timmy Brown https://www.facebook.com/timmy.browny?fref=ufi Maria D'Ange https://www.facebook.com/m66ria?fref=ufi ---- Copied below is a draft (includes a few posts from "yesterday") clearly explaining exactly what is going on behind the work of Santos Bonacci, Dalai Lama, David Icke, etc......

Paul Brooks
Lives in Glastonbury, Somerset, United KingdomFrom Matlock, Derbyshire

9 May at 03:39

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Arthur Cristian

The E-MAN is the hue-MAN, the fallen MAN under the "spell" of the "ecclesiastical orders" of black-magic priests, priestesses, warlocks, witches, sorcerers, found behind ALL religions, New Age, Commerce, Politics, Law/The Bar, Civilisations = "The System", Education, Universities, System Science, System Thought, Mathematics, Geometry/Sacred Geometry, Read & Write Alphabet Languages, Recorded His-Story/Her-Story, Philosophies (all are rooted in "The System"), etc, etc, all of which are PSYOP PROGRAMS for drones to perform under.

The E-MAN/Ecclesiastical MAN is the priests slave, drone robot = the hue-MAN.

The "NAME" reversed is E-MAN

The "NAME" is the E-GO - the ecclesiastical instruction/program crafted and encoded in/as a demon to possesses you under "NAME'.

Under demon spells that is a trance "state" caused by demonic possession (possesSION/possesZION), the "name" of victims are under the IMAGE POWER of "NAME".

Via remote control, remote viewing & remote projection of non-sensory images*** slaves are under the image-power and image-control of any and ALL ecclesiastical orders of Satanism/Freemasonry (E) - they instruct/guide (GO) their captured slaves to do whatever they want them (COMPELLED) to do.

*** (books, history, fairytales, myths, legends, religions, astrology, numerology, astrotheology, mathematics, alphabets, geometry/sacred geometry, astronomy, "system science", alchemy, all occults, esoterics and all university/uni-verse-i-ty courses/careers, titles, standings, costumes, etc, etc, basically everything of "The System" coming from recorded ancient "times" until "today" - this includes the "name" of plant, creature, insect, natural elements in soil, water and air, environment, landscape, horizon, celestial bodies, anything that has a "name" = "word"/"letter"/"number"/"angle/"shape"/"dimension"/level"/"measurement"/"time"/"space"/"distance"/"location"/etc, etc, etc, etc,......)

They always provide a wonderland setting (the matrix/"The System"/all-civilisations) for their Alice-slave to enter through the looking glass of their image-power and image-control. These demonic images bouncing to and fro between the ears as e-chos (cho = resonating frequency of a chord/sound/word) are forecast from a "past" and projected into a "future" to enslave the victim (self-fulfilling) in their wonderland-matrix here and now ,in present-sense. The "name" is found throughout everything listed here ***. This clearly tells you what is really going on.

The "NAME" is the DEMON and is the HOOD of the brotherHOOD/sisterHOOD to cloak victims, educated-slaves, with.

The demon, "name", e-go, is the marionette and the ecclesiastical order is the master puppeteer/s.

The "NAME" is ALWAYS under the administrative control of the E-STATE, the ecclesiastical "state", both as the real-estate (the "intellectual property, superimposed over land) and the brainwashing/braindirtying psychological "state" (the IMAGE POWER) a victim is under.

Under the power and control of the real e-"state" of "New South Wales" or "California", the Freemasonic/Satanic ecclesiastical order/s will issue a slave, whose holy-breath is losing its grip, a psycho order.

Now the drone is under the horrific maintenance care of brainwashed robots called psychiatrists/psychologists, who work for the E-STATE, to adjust and tighten up the slave's holy breath, the e-go, the "e-man", and if required, administer (add a minister = priests) psychotic drugs approved by the Freemasonic/Satanic ministers of the "e-state", as part of the correctional psycho orders issued by the Freemasonic/Satanic (ecclesiastical) judges of the e-state.

Once all is well and back to "normal", the slave is released back into the money supply to continue performing in commerce (processing curses) with all other slaves under the image-power ("name") of the e-"state".

The "name" is NOT MAN, is not MANS.

The E-GO is THE HOLY BREATH crafted by the ecclesiastical orders.

"The System" of govern-MEN-t, law, religion, commerce, money, insurance, university, etc, etc, etc, EVERYTHING of "The System", is the matrix of the E-STATE which was crafted out of black-magic for the "soul" purpose of assimilating captured babies/children of MAN into drones, the e-mans or hue-mans - and be enslaved under the power and control of ecclesiastical orders for a life-"time".

They do not want anyone to e-s-cape.

Cape = the cape of the holy breath must remain on forevermore.

Escape - scape = Scape definition, a leafless peduncle rising from the ground. Note leafless implying living-dead.

An example of this deception looking through another window into their matrix....

PHONETICS - phon-e-tics -------- LOLLLLLL

e = ecclesiastical (black-magic warlock instruction)

phon = A unit of apparent loudness, equal in number to the intensity in decibels of a 1,000-hertz tone perceived to be as loud as the sound being measured

tic = A tic is a sudden, repetitive, nonrhythmic motor movement or vocalization involving discrete muscle groups. Tics can be invisible to the observer, such as abdominal tensing or toe crunching. Common motor and phonic tics are, respectively, eye blinking and throat clearing. Tics must be distinguished from movements of other movement disorders such as chorea, dystonia, myoclonus; movements exhibited in stereotypic movement disorder or some people with autism; and the compulsions of obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) and seizure activity.

ph = In chemistry, pH (/piː eɪtʃ/ or /piː heɪtʃ/) is a measure of the acidity or basicity of an aqueous solution.

The pH scale is traceable to a set of standard solutions whose pH is established by international agreement. pH measurements are important in medicine, biology, chemistry, agriculture, forestry, food science, environmental science, oceanography, civil engineering, chemical engineering, nutrition, water treatment & water purification, and many other applications. Mathematically, pH is the negative logarithm of the activity of the (solvated) hydronium ion, more often expressed as the measure of the hydronium ion concentration.

PH also means a "state" of brainwashing in practise (set into motion)...... "I have a PH'd in such and such......

You can easily see/sense how phonetics describes a brainwashed drone under the pull of e-motion instruction (image-power) coming remotely from the story-tellers of black-magic as in Satanic/Freemasonic warlocks, witches, high-priestHOODS, priestesses).

Everything to do with E-MAN is DARKNESS, is of HELL, is spiritual suicide to MAN and is "self"-centeredness and to do with DOING HARM.

English is Hieroglyphics, each letter is a picture encompassing an ecclesiastical motion, this is not disregarding the codes of meanings used to communicate an "illumined light" (double-speak/triple-speak) between the initiated into such secrets.

The separation of the ways has begun.

Everyone has the choice between eternal life and eternal death.

Those who choose to worship the lie ("name" and everything of "name" = "The System") are being culled.

They will no longer exist.

Only those who choose eternal life will sacrifice everything of "self"/"name"/ego to co-create Kindom in present-sense. They will be the ONLY ones who will make it - they are being protected.

Unless the free-will of MAN changes, not many of us will live to move on - a vast culling has began and all those involved in the lie will be drawn to where they need to be to be culled.

It is very very simple.

All those who live for truth will be drawn to where they need to be to avoid the culling process of the earth fever.

E-motional attachments to family, friends, children, location will only keep victims trapped and be part of the culling.

The separation of the ways has begun.

There is no turning back.

Those who live for dream of life (truth) need to start making the moves.

We have less than 5 years and we will not be surprised if it is now less than two years.

David Icke, Santos Bonacci, Swissindo, OPPT, Thrive, Zeitgeist, Occupy, The Bible, The Torah, The Talmud, The Koran, The Baghdad Gitas, etc, etc, etc, etc, are all part of the problem. They do not offer a remedy to depart from "name" forevermore.

They do not show you how to leave "name" forevermore.

Let them go and everyone else living the lie and don't be like Lots wife.

Earth as we know it is going through a massive change and it is brought on by MANS dreaming, a dream for change that started with a simple, peaceful, loving, do no harm way of life, MAN of "long-ago", now being fulfilled/concluded during the Freemasonic/Satanic engineered/crafted "end-times".

The "name"/word humanity = hue-MAN-i-ty is a fallen-MAN who sees the reflection of fallen-MAN through "i" as in all seeing eye (i). The hue in hu-man is a shade, colour, type, shadow, reflection of a MAN but is NOT MAN. Wholeness is true consciousness, has no separation and therefore can't be got at naturally/consciously, but through lies of duality, illusions are provided on offer by Satanists/Freemasons, for men, women and children to fantasise over.

While lost in the play of make-believe MAN can imagine that MAN is broken down into spirit, mind and body which con-structs (structures of the con) the illusory rules of the divide allowing lies to enter into the fantasy game causing MAN to create the delusion of a conflict that does not exist but while lost to such psychosis, it leads MAN to completely break down wholeness/consciousness through unnatural (non-sensory)/unconscious means.

The manipulation through the use of trauma and the reactions to trauma is what brings all conflicts to a head. (HEAD) The black-magic sorcerers of Satanism/Freemasonry intended conflict to be this way.

Using your senses (touch, taste, feel, smell, hear, see) have you ever sensed a "mind"? Have you ever had a direct experience with "mind"....... myyyyyyyy ....... iiiiiiiiiiiii ........ .nnnnnnnnnn...dddddddddddd - Are you aware that "mind" does not exist?

People who have really woken up are NOT against anything or anyone - only the LOST are against an assumed foe/enemy. Those who have really woken up embrace everyone no matter what the circumstance and they do this while remaining grounded, vigilant and discerning. They are not lost to flights of fantasy and THEY DO NOT REACT TO TRAUMA.

They are not being led by darkness/lies/fantasies/illusions/delusions/trauma/etc.

The see/sense life without the use of rose coloured glasses.

They are realists.

They create light for those lost to the darkness to return to.

They are not part of the darkness.

They do not run from the darkness instead they bring light into the darkness to dissolve it.

They will relentlessly confront darkness without ever being part of darkness.

They never run away from darkness, they are far more together/powerful than that.

To expand on these themes in greater detail please read and watch the Sequential order of Love For Life videos, articles, debates, etc, which can be found here:
Godzilla Through The Looking Glass Destroyed By "Name" by Arthur & Fiona Cristian - http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514

All the best
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

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Arthur Cristian

Copied from the discussion about the video of the Mountain Man arrested: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203651756842542 - Simon said: "I may agree with you Fiona (?) that said my question was more an immediate explanation of why the Mountain Man was wronged. We can speculate as to whether or not he filed papers, whether or not he created joinder with their name by some trick or artifice, whether or not he's registered assets to the system but for me the fact remains: MAN can get harmed and wronged by others, even those whom are given the very curses they try to dispense. We should learn about the significance of these things but to say he did xyz wrong while only knowing that the system applied a finding against one of it's names is speculative.

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We replied.........

Simon, the options have narrowed down to just a few possibilities/scenarios. It's clear that all lies are curses so we know that the whole of "The System" is the processing of a curse. We also know that you must be enjoindered for the curse to be processed.

The Mountain MAN is clearly enjoindered by "name" (refer to earlier posts in this thread for more on this) otherwise he would not volunteer to appear in court to be caught - if he really knew who he really was he would not be in the position that he's ended up in., he would have remained in silence and let them process the curse which is what the "great" MAN did long ago to the Romans, Pharisees, Sanhedrin, etc, etc. He knew he was not answerable to them.

Mountain MAN had a vested interest to protect "ownership" which is noted by his fight. If he did not "own" anything he would have nothing to fight for. Money, assets, etc enjoindered to "name".

There is also the possible scenario of carrying out instructions from superiors impacting law-enforcement, the bar, etc. They do want chaos, injustice, destruction, etc, etc, to get worse and worse everywhere as part of the final staged act to the prelude of their "end-times" self-fulfilling prophecies providing the launch pad excuse/justification to introduce their fantastic NWO remedy dressed up to smell like roses, etc, have everyone, the duped, jump for it.

It's clear that paper work in itself has no power no force of law, it was not paper that invaded all the lands and decimated all the tribes etc, etc and set up "The System" to maintain power and control over captured slaves and their progeny. Paper and whatever is scribbled or marked or stamped on it can't do this by itself, can't move from desk to desk to filing cabinet, etc.... Paper is a fiction just as the Easter Bunny is a fiction.

Mountain MAN may also have a history of dealing with the law and they decided to make an example of him, maybe the judge did not like how he treated her...... Does it rally matter all this speculation? The fact is harm is being done, curses are being processed and if we step back to see the big picture its clearly obvious that we just make/force harm doers process curses of their "own" making otherwise we either become just like them, harm-doers retaliating, etc, or we continue being compliant slaves hoping for a few mini-slave victories here and there while maintaining their slave status forevermore.

It is pretty simple for us - we just focus on harm-doers processing curses and not get caught up in the semantics, pedantic histrionics, fears, doubts, uncertainty, vagueness, confusion, etc, and the merry-go-round dramas of who did what, when where, how, why thus continue being trapped in the vicious cycle of a poor me victim syndrome reacting to trauma, to the pull of e-motion which is where they (Freemasons/Satanists) want you to be.

The thing with us Simon is in present-sense, we are already in the action/motion of creating remedy, of forcing harm doers to process curses of their "own" making. And we are vigilant and discerning to not let us be distracted from doing this day-after-day because if we did we would end up on the destroyed-broken-fallen-MAN gravy train going nowhere. No thanks. We come to true freedom with strength.

We don't come to freedom out of weakness which is what distractions, uncertainty, doubt, confusion, etc, does to you, it diminishes the concentration of power of your life-force energy being directed powerfully. We say use it powerfully here and now in present-sense to force them to quickly change their ways and once this Satanic/Freemasonic cabal has been completely busted wide open we provide sanctuary for all them fleeing from this terrible man-made hell that has made prisoners of everyone.

The main reason people go to court over statute "claims" is the reaction to trauma of having something they "claim" they "own" being taken from them down-the-line (the future being controlled by the past ruling the present), including garnishing bank accounts, stealing of assets such as a car, motor bike, computers, household furniture, electric guitar, home, land, etc, and even the physical body under the image-power of "name".

Then there is the trauma over loss of credit rating, obstructions put in place to stop them accessing gas, electricity, credit cards, etc, etc, and even the propaganda put in place that stops them getting employment down-the-line.

There are many types of reaction to trauma, the pull of e-motion that COMPELS a fallen-MAN to make a physical appearance at court, to be caught.

The fact that the Mountain MAN turned up is a blatant admittance that he is the "right party", the re-presentative of said "name" encoded on said "claim", that being the statute penalty being imposed (but actually on offer) upon "name".

At this point he has already been defeated. Now its all up to the judge/magi-strate to determine just how much of a curse the Mountain MAN will process but even this is set into motion by the Mountain MAN because the statute rulings and penalties were already advertised. The menu was already set. The magistrate just has to determine which item on the menu he can be persuaded to order.

The Mountain Man has taken the offer to process the curse. Everything in statute law is designed to make the victims process the curses and not the judges, barristers, etc.

Money/Commerce IS THE PROCESSING OF CURSES. Nothing else is going on.

As we said, ONLY a fallen-MAN would accept the authority, the power, the control of another MAN and therefore place their re-presentation of "name" under the standing of another MAN performing in the "name" with costume and title. This is already the processing of curses being set into motion.

This MAN, Arthur, will never go to their courts regardless of whatever "claims" they throw at this MAN. They will have to kidnap the physical body because an appearance any other way is admittance of claiming the "name". Arthur has no claims to the "name", and hasn't been making claims on the "name" since 2009 so they would have to come up with a scam, or make a claim that he has harmed someone as an excuse to drag the body in.

In the story of the Great MAN of long ago, he doesn't go to their courts until they take him there by force and then he remains silent.

He recognised that he was not of their world and had no need to go there, which forced the hand of the perpetrators as they had to go and kidnap his body and bring him before Rome, the Sandringham bloodlines and the pharisees, who were all in commerce, all colluding together to keep everyone under their power and control.

He didn't need to talk because they were not his masters and he did not accept their curses. Even before they took his body, he had already created a dream to return the curses. The dreaming of this dream by him and others who had woken up set into motion the downfall of Rome, with earthquakes, hurricanes, tsunamis, lands sinking and rising, volcanoes erupting, etc, etc, although you won't find the earth-wide extent of destruction recorded in their books in relation to the living-dream set into motion by the Great MAN.. (They had to keep all this secret, they did not want their recaptured educated slaves to remember the truth about curses and processing curses down-the-line - hence they created carbon dating, new "time codes" for calendars, revision/rewrite of all recorded his-story/her-story set to the "time codes" of BC and AD - make everything appear to have happened at different points of time, 10,000BC, 5000BC, 3000BC, 900BC, 33BC, 33AD, 150AD, 450AD, 1100AD, 1500AD, 1780AD, 1845AD, etc, etc = all bullshit)

Why do we say this then? Look at what we and others are doing now to turn back the curses and remove this evil system from Earth. Unless we get remedy happening, we will be in for wild weather too, as Earth corrects the balance.

All paperwork and filing is an admittance that you are their slave to "name" and that you accept their power and authority over you, accepted Rome and Babylon, accepted the curse. Even when you are talking to the representatives, the clerks, etc, you are accepting everything of "The System" by default. You cannot be in "The System" and not of it, UNLESS you give up everything of "name", in and of "The System". This is where the freeman/sovereignty movement shows up as just another Yellow Brick Road.

Now comes the issue of greed and selfishness, fear and uncertainty as people wrestle with the idea of giving their system comforts and privileges up, including the "protection" that comes from the system lackeys. And laziness because most people don't want to do the work needed to get out. They want the bells and whistles but they don't want to be answerable to those providing the privileges. And so the life of slave to "name" defaults, defaults, defaults, defaults, defaults to the slave masters every moment in every area of their system life. Trapped - trapped - trapped - trapped - and winging and whining and moaning and groaning and complaining and arguing and fighting and reacting to trauma as the rot of being a fallen-MAN continues descending further and further and down and down and down into this man("self")-made darkness called HELL, "The System".

Simon, this was how Mountain MAN brought it upon him"self" ("name").

Again, please read the posts we put up this year as found in the Sequential Order.

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Arthur Cristian

These images are the reflections/shadows of sorcery, re-presenting its inventor, his worshipers and his/their victim/victims (all of MAN). Notice the host is MAN possessed by the demon crafted remotely by Satanists/Freemasons = pentagram over pineal gland.

Pineal Gland or forehead = all seeing eye - this is where MAN projects/expands IMAGES to the dream of life using MANS breath to encode/embed the images being projected, being dreamt, thought, understood, etc.

Pentagram

Pen - writing word-spells

Gram or gramme - a metric system unit of mass - as in

Telegram - meaning, from remote locations they are projecting a gram = a demon cast in the water (a gram of water) of MANS breath and sent through the water (consciousness - the whole of the dream of life is water, is MANS consciousness, is MANS breath) to possess their targeted victims. They do this through Hollywood, TV, Radio, Music, frequencies, signals, etc, etc. They get the word-spell spinning through the education of their victims and in victims saying/thinking/believing a, b, c, 1, 2, 3, etc, etc, over and over again (lots of repetition going on in education to learn spells of mean-in-gs = understand - be under the standing of the spells of words/letters, etc) the victims are conjuring up and calling upon them the demons, the grams.

The demons are tele-ported upon them from Satanic covens, black-magic ritual sites so they can be possessed (hooded/shrouded/cloaked) by them without ever realising they did it to them"selves".

These black-magic sites are where bred or kidnapped babies, children, teenagers, adults, animals, are ritually sacrificed/slaughtered to capture the GRAM (that is the soul, the water of MANS consciousness/breath) departing the tortured victim = death. They capture these souls to use them in their rituals for casting demons in the water of MANS breath and to maintaining the frequency of TRAUMA/TERROR/FEAR, etc, so that MAN continues reacting to trauma that is the demon of "name" and have the demon maintain its powerful grip over its victim.

Pent -a past tense and a past participle of pen2.adj. Penned or shut up; closely confined. - describing the victims prison-cell that are the demonic images bouncing to and fro between the ears as echos of IMAGE POWER, thought control, "system thought", rendering the victim into terribly confined quarters where the Real MAN is squeezed out and the demon has hold of almost all of MANS thinking, e-motions, dreams, values, life-style, etc, etc, = life in "The System" that is a man-made HELL.

The Pent is the past, the education the victim endured over many many "years", that being the image power of the demon/demons spinning, whirling and bouncing to and fro between the ears of its victims who are projecting into the future, "time-codes" of system thought, that are the dreams victims are dreaming for, be it house, land, car, truck, motor bike, equipment, course, title, degree, etc, etc, through mortgage or savings or leases or dreams for a family/children/marriage, holidays, retirement home/savings/superannuation, food, water, materialism, consumerism, etc, etc, etc, and thus completely imprison/control the victims in present-sense, here and now throughout the whole of their life-"time".

The all-seeing-eye (i) is the "NAME" of the demon that possesses MAN and traps MAN because this is all that MAN sees, that being the word-spells of "System Thught" crafted by black-magic priests and projected their read and write alphabet languages

Please WAKE UP EVERYONE - Wake Up - Wake Up - Wake Up.

Harvard Will Host 'Reenactment' of Satanic Mass
A Satanic Black Mass reenactment is scheduled to take place at the Queen’s Head Pub in Memorial Hall at Harvard University on May 12, with the Mass performed by The Satanic Temple, which is being host........
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/harvard-will-host-...

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Arthur Cristian

Eilish De Avalon, Alexandros Agelastos, Paul Brooks, Anja Vis, Naturr Boii, Dominic Toomey, Fizz Gig, JA BA, Shaun Hamer, Santos Bonacci, Timmy Brown https://www.facebook.com/timmy.browny?fref=ufi - Maria D'Ange https://www.facebook.com/m66ria?fref=ufi (Maria has since removed all her comments and FB friendship) - We're still waiting for Santos Bonacci to confirm a date/time for our Skype chat????? Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life

5th July 2014 5.34pm

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A World Of Words Is A World Of Lies by Arthur Cristian - Love For Life - 13th June 2014

The Cristian Family November 2006

A World Of Words
Is A World Of Lies


Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
13th June 2014

Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8527

Facebook Link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203921833554291

We use our senses to communicate - all of nature does this which clearly tells you/us that senses is our true tongue. All words are lies, all read and write alphabet languages, mathematics and geometry/sacred geometry are abominations. They are always in and of 3rd party.

While a "dog" with a few sniffs can gain a vast amount of information about the MAN through direct-experience, first party to first party, the dumbed-down brainwashed MAN lost to (indoctrinated by) words is thinking words "brown-dog". This shows you the vast depth of our fallen state. Argue for your limitations and sure enough they are yours. We've provided sufficient links to help you fully comprehend the big-picture.

Does a child first have to believe in a tree before the child can sense the tree???? Of course not, the presence of the tree (LIFE) is already present to the child and the presence of the child (LIFE) is already present to the tree - NO EDUCATION/INSTRUCTION/BRAINWASHING required. But when we educate our children they get lost in words which completely disconnects them from using their senses to have a direct experience with the tree.

If we say to a child that that sensory life-form over there is a daffodil and is yellow and is part of this and that and does this and that, etc, etc, and the innocent child trusts us, looks up to us, and we have not provided the child with full-disclosure, the next "time" a brainwashed child comes across this sensory-life-form, the child's head will be spinning with all the "words" we filled the child's head up with, words, words, words, words (spells) bouncing to and fro between the ears (so to speak).

The child is now using words to completely cover (superimpose) the sensory-life-form in darkness.

Imagine taking a potato sack to completely shroud/hood the life-form in darkness. This is what the child is doing. The child can no longer sense the sensory information coming directly from a sensory-life-form willingly sharing its purpose for the dream of life with the child.

The words spinning in the child's head has become a SHATTERED REALITY.

The child is now under the image power of another MAN who was acting as an impostor of the sensory-life-form. The fallen-MAN hijacked the natural character and attributes of the sensory life-form. This is fraud, is lying and is completely destroying the child.

The child cannot create unique original thoughts/dreams to create the unique original MAN he/she was supposed to be creating. Now the child is just a clone, a drone, a robot, a slave, under the control of the performance of the image power of another MAN who imposed his will over the child.

The child has now been hijacked from direct experience.

The MAN now controls the child as his/her slave.

In "The System" with its education, instruction, explanation, imagine your whole life being this process to produce a shattered reality for you so that you can be a slave used and abused by your slave master/s in whatever way they want you to perform/behave/act. Your slave master now compels you to act (the pull of e-motions/reaction to trauma that are the words of a shattered reality) exactly how your slave master wants you to act.

If you have been educated you have already been destroyed of who you really are and what you are really part of.

Best to give up all your brainwashing first before beginning to attempt the sensory communication of truth.

A world of words is a world of lies.

A world of words is a shattered reality.

We were never meant to be educated by anyone.

Refer to the Sequential Order below as it provides the big-picture we see/sense. You can also scroll down Arthur's Facebook wall to explore the past few months of this type of insightful work which will be added to the Sequential Order in the near future. All updates to the Sequential Order can be found on the home page of the Love For Life website www.loveforlife.com.au - scroll down to find it.

All the best to you and your family.

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

Another Delusion - Posted by Arthur Cristian - Love For Life - 11th June 2014 - Freeman Delusion

The Cristian Family November 2006

Another Delusion


Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

11th June 2014

Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8526

This is a conversation with Freeman Delusion, Rob, where it becomes clear that his thoughts and basis of Common Law provide only a cul-de-sac in "The System" and not true peace, freedom, truth, joy, etc. Freeman Delusion wants to keep people in the slavery system as educated slaves, keeping them distracted by Common Law, in this case, or Freeman stuff or anything legal and political or philosophical, etc, that maintains the hold of "The System" over the brains of men and women. Common Law is, in fact, just another psyop program to keep us busy while the steamroller that is the New World Order rolls ever closer. This is a very heated discussion which has had the naughty words sanitised so everyone can use their imaginations to guess what they were. Answers on a postcard please. Or perhaps not.

To us, Rob (Freeman Delusion) now re-presents an immense danger to a lot of innocent people and if he is not stopped, will cause phenomenal damage to many naive and gullible men and women who have been deceived/conned by this blatant liar. Many men and women not provided with full-disclosure as to Rob's true ulterior motives, cul-de-sac intentions (massive red herring distractions) and who his real master is will be led down the yellow brick road and therefore remaining completely enslaved in "The System" with no way of ever getting out. The fact that Rob also came out of the exposure and routing out of OPPT (One Peoples Public Trust) with us and others makes it even more serious to stop his nefarious work dead in its tracks because he now has an excellent "looking good" fabricated front to deceive others. As we often say... the greatest lie and liar is the one closest to the truth - they cause the greatest damage of all.

The Legal Psyops Program

The whole freeman-sovereignty movement was an Intel Psyop Program designed to destroy the truth by getting as close to it as they possibly could without revealing it fully. They build it all up to get people thinking that there is a way to find freedom, etc, etc. Then, after a few, mini-slave "victories" to increase the fervour, they smash it all in the believers faces to demoralise them, weaken them, have them be powerless and vulnerable and thus easy to manipulate and make them pliable and conditioned to accept the "rule of law" enforced upon them, a law very closely aligned to common law, although not always called common law.

Once things have fallen flat on their faces, people look back to Common Law or Natural Law, or Constitution because we have been so conditioned into thinking that we need to have some sort of law, that we cannot be free to take full responsibility for our lives. They cannot introduce the New World Order without some kind of law, so they need us to keep thinking that we need law, need someone to tell us what to do and what not to do. Yes, they want us to be disillusioned with the "old" law, and to be looking for something new, but they want to be the ones to present us with the "new", "good" law that we will lap up in its "oneness", "consciousness" disguise.

The shepherds who led everyone to the freeman/sovereign movement are now leading everyone to the rule of law, whatever sort of law, just any kind of law accepted by the "authorities" that keeps us in their courts, in their paperwork, under the "name", in "The System" with no way out, always accepting the third party authorities. Once we step out of the rule of law, they have no control over us which is why they have so many shepherds chivvying us all along.

What they do NOT want us to do is do what Arthur has done - stop using the "name" and drop all the privileges and benefits that go with it and completely depart from "The System" never to return. If we all did this, what would they have? NOTHING because no one would be paying them any attention any more! This brings them out into the open for all to see and they can only attempt to control us through overt force which shows their true colours, who they are and what their intentions are.

EVERYTHING to do with any law of any sort is a Psyop Program.

At all "times" through all "stages", from freeman/sovereignty through whatever "alternative" to the "rule of law", it has always been a Psyop Program.

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

Facebook Link: https://www.facebook.com/rightascention/posts/608369562603320 - at the end of this discussion/debate last night, Rob quickly took down this thread or at least completely blocked us after removing the Facebook friendship.

Freeman Delusion https://www.facebook.com/rightascention

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This shit is loosing it's challenge and becoming intolerably boring. I can't even get an intelligible argument, let alone a valid piece of supportive evidence.

I shouldn't really be surprised though, considering, as I've often said, that freeman ideology is little more than a faith-based belief system, not unlike a religious persuasion, and in no way an established legal doctrine.

And as Friedrich Nietzsche once said... "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything."

BE AWARE that you are being indoctrinated and lied to, by a well-planned psy-op that seeks to limit the collective's chances of any successful attempt at challenging the status quo.

YOU ARE BEING DUMBED DOWN WITH FAIRYTALES.

Denial of reality is ultimately a form of cowardice, a cop out, obstinately refusing to accept well established facts, in favour of a delusional alternate reality that doesn't even exist, let alone provide a logical solution to any legal dilemma here in the real world.

Good luck with that...

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Mathias Nagy

I appreciate people like you Freeman, who present near invisible facts and make rational comment on their implication. Unfortunately, intelligent discussion is near impossible for you as you probably know more than 99.9% of the rest of us, but it doesn't mean what you provide isn't useful or appreciated. In fact it proves we need to hear what you have to say. Perhaps even better, if you would teach us how to do the research ourselves, by indicating purpose and relevant documentation, you may just create the lively intelligent debate we all need to keep moving forward.

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Helen Dodds

Me too

lets look at the constitutional debates ?

the spirit of the laws

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Freeman Delusion

I'm no guru or expert in anything academic, I was actually refused an education by my dad, who removed me from school in grade 5 primary. I'm lucky to even read and write, let alone use a search engine and research anything so complicated and potentially believable. I know nothing really, but the fact of my own ignorance, and continue to rebut my own previous assertions.

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Helen Dodds

wel the school of hard Knocks hehehe you are a GURU you in part showed me I am me that is what a guru does hahaah

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Mathias Nagy

An absence of public indoctrination (ie education) is probably part of what made you question the illusion others live in.

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Helen Dodds

how abot some you tube like others ?

branch into a different media

hahah as you may have realized i forgot to reference the constitutional debates and have been trolling through them again I must say they are more interesting than i was led to believe thought it would be boring but them old blockes had it going on Found my self cheering about the free man constitutional free man conversations hahaha and that they always intended that women should have the vote be cause of oppresive domestic Mans rule hahaha they are great

A must for every one ! looking to use the laws enshrined in the constition our rule of law heho this will in my oppinon put your sole at rest Knowing the spirit of our laws and why they came to be

these documents has given one a solid foundation on which to build their lives of free man sovereignty in a Lawfull manner

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Freeman Delusion

I needed a year 10 to begin an apprenticeship in Signwriting at 15, this was my first attempt at law, taking the Apprenticeship Board to civil court to establish my literacy competency to learn the trade. My boss and I won the case, after I sat a general knowledge and I.Q. exams at Tafe to gauge my approximate level of education. They said in the final court submission that the results showed I had a higher literacy level than the average year 10 lol...

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Helen Dodds

good on you my education ceased in grade 8 (qld )and attended thirteen different schools during my formal education my bad grammar spelling is an asset Phonetics is good for me. i kept well away from it all until I decided that i would try out for uni and then i sat a mature age Stat test in Victoria 156 of 200 and i froze at the Math logic didnt ancer one question May have aced it but still awarded a scholarship much to my surprise More power to you freeman Delusion not all are surviving the numbers have always been predicted and well there will be plenty of room When they are all raptured !

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Helen Dodds

correct me if i have it wrong But If all the people decide there are Staute laws That can be shown to have and cause an uncesisry burben on the people they Can stop them if they do it in unity and petition the reps we have the last word Just uniting the people that see them selves each as a king then that is the most dificult task

THink they petition the GG as he is the path to royal ascent The the comity of scrutineer was designed to replace ascent to the crown all the way to our GG Lest we forget if they have incorporated our Family company they are Managers and CEO the share holders can always sack them

instilling the knowing of Birth right and that haveing a birth right gives you all the opportunity to benifit from the TRUST held by the CROWN THEY OWN NOTHING ITS all in TRUST They have no right to sell one blade of grass if the people unite and Make them listen

come work with us Freeman disillusioned ! you left Grafton heading North i suppose chasing the sun im missing that QLD sunshine I dont care what any one says its shine different up north would not blame you if thats the path you on

showing people dont make them belive They would rather chase the leprechauns treasurer a Fiction of the pot of Gold

have a break FreemanD and head this way in summer bring the family and your tents have plenty of room some plans of revoltion must be face to face !

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Freeman Delusion

Without the notion of parliament and legislative enactments we have no way to create laws governing the nation, nor method of overturning previous laws as the people see fit for their particular time.

25 million opposing opinions are not a representation of the true will of the people, hence a body was created to administrate whatever party the majority decides should run the country according to section 51 of the federal constitution.

Law must change with the times, and this cannot occur with the "unchangeable" ancient common law of England, nor a fixed constitution such as ours.

Referendum should really be the supreme law-making method, yet there is no provision for such legislative supremacy in our constitution.

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Tosgair Ammeasgmu Laurentia

Feel the same way beating a dead horse. That why I have moved on and I don't mind correcting ppl in other forums so long as I can gain a benefit from it

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Helen Dodds

is a not a wet ink petition of eligible citizens and native born not a peoples referendum ? recording in fact for and against on the presented paper ! i know that laws must change and evolve but we must strip back removing laws that do indeed cause an unnecessary burden on a freedom or a economic drain etc It is the need if aspects of this so called adgenda 21 to fail we must keep as they are for now the foundational laws The constitution as they are

not all laws are enacted to be valid for ever laws can be long or short times they I do know once enacted they are very hard to change

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Mathias Nagy

One thing I don't understand is why people care so much. Once we agree to become a citizen (or if we learn about the con but stay in the system anyway) we have given away all property rights to whatever collective we consider sovereign in exchange for protection. We can bitch all we want to but we can do nothing about any of it as a WILLING slave.

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Freeman Delusion

"It is a settled point with writers on the natural law, that all men inherit from nature a perfect liberty and independence, of which they cannot be deprived without their own consent. In a state, the individual citizens do not enjoy them fully and absolutely, because they have made a partial surrender of them to the sovereign." ~ Law of Nations

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Mathias Nagy

Exactly. I would suggest if that "partial surrender" is property rights, it might as well be considered everything.

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Chaz Le

Cognitive dissonance, man....its their ONLY argument, THEIR ONLY SALVATION, you cannot take it away

Freeman doctrine only applies to freeman

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Helen Dodds

Ps I did Science environmental management with waste control for 1 year and then changed to medical laboratory science Didn't finish deffer cause my mum died and well I found I had learned all that i needed to continue my journey. and Uni was not the truth for your diploma ! its a scam to cause a class of over educated indoctrinated pompous academic delusion leaving many that can do so intimidated they never have the courage to try

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Chaz Le Show

them this: http://cdn2.business2community.com/.../2013/06/suntzu.jpg
cdn2.business2community.com

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Chaz Le

They think they have tactics, they have neither tactics nor Strategy

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Helen Dodds

every one know their strategy its all over the net No one has a strategy that works and unless we decide to use tried and true lawful methods to stop them we are all f......... F.... them who wants to shut the f.... up and form a clear strategy that has A real chance of effecting the changes that we need!

So the incorporated Our family Business ! charge the f.......... under corprate law Ther are valid laws That outlaw Breaches of promise

Corporate laws that allow share holders and beneficiaries of TRUSTS to have their Day in Court IF THE COMPANY MANAGERS CEOS and such F.... them over seriously how come i can see how it may be attempted

we just have to unite the people get tem to signe and for or against

If the people petition the high court then they must do something cahmneg the laws by using all the laws the point of time and the point of law is first in time first in law is i t not !

Provisions were made in the foundational laws so that we can with very little stress oppereate as the almost perfect constitutional republic Am i dumb by getting that how come so many dont see this as i do I just know it in my bones as i have been seeing all this laws and rules the only book in the polititions hand book is The constitution Fracking hell they must abide by the rules they tote !

and the peolpe must unite and make the P..... tow the line we draw

F... it no body wants to be a sloger they all friggen kings and want us to kiss their soverign RINGS :

What happend to all for one one for all

Mans free will and ONE TWO many fracking choices and you just know just because the wrapping or brand is different don't mean the contents are not the same in every different box!

They all made in the same factory !

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Freeman Delusion

Not sure if you've seen this, but our courts do not recognise a Corporate Sole or a Statutory Corporation in their definition of a corporation, they are defined as an "Excempt Public Authority"...

CORPORATIONS ACT 2001 - SECT 57A
(2) Neither of the following is a corporation :
(a) an exempt public authority;
(b) a corporation sole.

"exempt public authority" means a body corporate that is incorporated within Australia or an external Territory and is:
(a) a public authority; or
(b) an instrumentality or agency of the Crown in right of the Commonwealth, in right of a State or in right of a Territory.

http://www.austlii.edu.au/.../consol_act/ca2001172/s57a.html
CORPORATIONS ACT 2001 - SECT 57A Meaning of corporation
www.austlii.edu.au
(b) any body corporate (whether incorporated in this jurisdiction or elsewhere); and

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Helen Dodds

and well just will say now Joe bejelky peterson was undouptedly a corrupt oppressive asshole but he never sold one stone of Queensland He lease and they the rich people payed the rent !

F.... that that law must cause a unnessary burden on the people who was responsible for the scrutiny of this bill ? as with no royal ascent the law nust no conflict with the foundational rights of the people

some may not realize but im sure you do The royal ascent was to in sure there was no conflicts at law of the new bills or proposed legislation in the empire and the new statute laws of the new federation

Come on what is it that we are not seeing That must conflict with the interest of the Nation and the people

Im shure there are parts in the debates that define waht it is a company will be under the constitution

to show intent and the sprit in which the laws were enacted

If a statute laws conflicts with the spirit of the intent then surly that can be valuable tactic

hell look at the mandatory sentencing in the NT saw a appeals court request by a young man that was not guilty of the crime he was jailed for twenty years no parole because he failed to stop the murder of another by two older blokes OUR laws are and have let get out of control there must be a way to stop it

the vic government remved the govenor authority and now they will set a precent in the aprlament to expel a sitting member if ya ask me they all need arresting

they are in constitutional crisis they just covering that up stop the govener from doing his lawfull job If i cant see the way in a lawfull manner wl I will be going PRIVATE

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Freeman Delusion

By proper definition a Corporate Sole such as the Crown is correctly not a "Registered Company" for the Corporations Act to apply to them. They are not a publicly listed company, they do not have shareholders, or a CEO, nor are they in substance anything like a "Registered Company"...

A comprehensive study on the unique structural differences between these entities needs to be undertaken to understand the legitimacy of this definition.

yes but if they have registered it surly they are under the jusridicion of the foundational laws contained in their hand book

I dont have the brain waves to sort this ! and exicute this comprhensive study

thank you for the proding and the maybe i might be smart enough but im if not any thing aware of my short comings

Ok i get that they must be recorded as a TRUSt

then ther must be records that define the job of the crown as you know the facts have been skewed by all these damn delusoned free men sovereigns

I have been so trying to get to see the records of the chuches as they have jurisdiction over the lands calimed thhrough tehm for the crown indeed to protect it from allthe other ivaders from The new found USA

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Freeman Delusion

Did you read my old note on the differences in corporate entities Helen..??

The links are from Wikipedia, but the references they provide are legitimate, and near identical to their definitions.

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Helen Dodds

any way it is the spirit of the laws i see and understand I come from original lore under the Madyain system and You fellas shit i cant work your laws out but I do know the old people and they that still live their lore know what they told me and How Thay said it should work cause they all vote

Yes free man i so try to read every thing of yours ever since tou revealed a truth that i knew just needed a reminder There were only capital letters in rome hahaha

I lobed in maningrida 6 weeks before Howard enforced the intervention with my car at the jabaru airport twenty in my pocket and a ful tank for my retune to Melbourne after i saw The cahnges he was effecting in legislation only short weeks before the election I told them it was coming But was at a loss bar for them to use 116 of the constitution cause lore is there untill it has been written as it is being written in the NT into legislation that is in fact federal as THE NT is NOT yet a stae

If making as many as two thousand laws during one sitting then surly these wankers are not doing as the should be using thier positions over and above the power they have

sorry Free man your truth must to my reckoning be respected by all that have taken the time to look at your part of that journey we have all been on

Your truth has has a positve affet on me thats for sure knw that you have saved one person from the black hle viod

The ausy constitutional barrister Jeffery Robinson once said " the problem for the Aborigines to assert their sovereignty they Must come forward " and the johnny no concept always will tell you in aboriginal culture there are no kings or queens chiefs or hyrachy no pecking order How wrong they are ! why would these dear people comforward when their should be could be peoples of born of this land insist they never existed

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Freeman Delusion

I was in Katherine when the intervention began, might have bumped into you lol. The first day the kids and I walked with total strangers in the protest march, and risked arrest by buying and handing out two cartons of beer to the mob lol

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Helen Dodds

A great travisty was done when the DOCUMENT CHANGED removing the words and sections It utill that is realized will be the last NAIL in our first nations peoples coffin that i will die trying to change

Na i was the bue flash you only thought you saw the gost in the shadows

hehehe good on you our paths have been close I have no doupt about that

Have you read my post on madyin law this is all from the old lore people hehehe dont bther explaining we are focused and doing what we must when we must all up to the sacred cahmber of lore and they are ghost so we can only trust and listen

haha sorry if i ignored you mate i am when up that way on a mission

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Helen Dodds

I post noting with out their say so it is the way i must operate

You do realize that arnham lad mob were not invaded by one mr tindal untill 1921 and by 1962 they were signing treatys withthe help of the missonarys with the government and the crown under the watchfull eyes of the bishops ?

that was waht only 90 yeras ago you know we had an old man he was 116 when he died no one gave a shit about him and how long he lived always said he might live for ever as he was waiting to see this Jesus that would save him

and he gave up when his family came from the other side and begged him to join them not because the So called messiah came and got him you can be sure of that yea both he and my big Brother saw it all and as I am their witness they want ONE NATION ONE LAW ! in unity not factions

when the intervention came in My son Daryl was in the Army and they recuted Nor force all to turn on their own people our own people I tell ya what if I was Really mad They would be talking about me for ever just like Mallatt

thyed be dropping like flys if i had the power for that

hehehe I so prayed that a lightning bolt would come form the sky and blow Howard right out of our world ! There so must be something we can do to STOP THIS HOSTILE CORPORATE TAKEOVER !

sorry you know its like every one assuming that Captain cook broke his orders and the laws of the sea ? the king told cook that he should if the land was unoccupyed he should take it for the king In his jourmals of his own hand he expressed there were in habitants and they made it clear to him he was not welcome ! then he was allowed to take water and have a sticky beak he got on his ship and went like mad up the east coast till he hit the rocks now he went to possession island which is and would be classed as Terra Nulius because it is with out water and in habitants He poked the flag in and by Mariners law and the so called by the orders of the king CLAIMED A FRACKING PORT NOT THE WHOLE CONTINENT OF AUSTRALIA any way you see where im going cook NEVER RETURNED his crew were home sick and poxinfected and he placed a port on possession island twelve miles circumphence around the flagg cant you see the bull shit in how history was assumed and re written its clear to me How our first nations Soverenty can be asserted by the laws they fracking tote

bet if you asked a hundred ozzies they would say possession island is in botony bay !

not on what is the northern border of OUR CONTINENTAL PLATE

lol sorry fellars bet you all switched out some time ago

even them ozzies that think they know the law and the history of this land

look my point either way the law was broken the paper trail must show us who and when these crimes took place and they must be delth with before our system will be changed or needs to be changed. be very suprised if there was no church humble watch dog on such important voyages

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Uden Efternavn Michael

Freeman Delusion:You say "...freeman ideology is little more than a faith-based belief system, not unlike a religious persuasion, and in no way an established legal doctrine".

Do you mean that 'established legal doctrine' is *not* based on belief?

What I'm getting at is this: legality, statutes, representative government etc. is *also* a belief system - based on the belief that majority rule is fair and ok. You probably guessed that I don't support this as either fair or ok. Your thoughts?

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Earthica-Star Soveran

what solution do you offer?

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Helen Dodds

law is all taken from LORES myths and such from different cultures laws are all forms of belief thats a true Staemen Uden Efternavn Michael

i dont think that is being sisputed laws are over which jurisdicton are they common laws are the corporate laws are they foundational laws and which land and which people do they have jurisdiction over

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Earthica-Star Soveran

are you askin me or FMD

im asking anyone who offers solutions to speak about them

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Helen Dodds

I can only offer an idea I see that unless we as native born or citizens by oath if we don't in unity back the first nations people to assert the first nations lores as the sovereigns laws first laws of this land if we don't unite and make them the kings in the spirit of our laws we are all wasting the time of our lives. as the laws in the constition are our foudational laws we must relize the spirt to which they were made it is as i see it a total waste of time going to an international court or the UN as their laws have No jurisdiction they have no stick to make any one abide by their findings

the first step is to tell the first nations people we will back them and then they back us back by recognizing or comon law soverenty enshrined in our foundational laws

and i mean tell them on mass There is a petition that has been started.

http://www.change.org/petitions/the-sovereign-peoples-living-on-country-...

The sovereign peoples living on country Living lore: I want to show the lore keepers they have...

““Until we give back to the first nations people just a bit of the land that was his, without strings to snatch it back, without anything but complete... ...

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Helen Dodds

original lore is so much more that a spear in the thigh! and in my eyes far more lawful in a natural way than any law that has been written and forced upon them

they see our laws as burdenous and quite lawless

makes out casts of people

a through read of the constitutional debates they are long but i start at the last and read backwards to the first and well I was surprized to these days these men were quite free man knowing

looking through these documents clearly shows the spirit in the laws and how they came to be you know if you dont take in the wole picture can only see half a truth is qite simply a whole lie !

here is an except from a paper written from original lore now its written we can write some laws far be it from me to ask you to back a law a sovereign lore of the first nations people that may well be a fairytale with out giving you the information you need about original laws to make your own mind up so here is an except and you are welcome to friend me to see other most interesting facts on original lores any way te choice is yours if your interested in helping us form a strategy to some workable solution we do need every one.

Madayin Law System; The Assent law of the Yolŋu of Arnhem Land
By Richard Trudgen
Posted in: Legal systems

This is the paper from Dr Djiniyini Gondarra’s presentation to the The Law and Justice within Indigenous Communities conference in Darwin, NT, Feb 2011.

The Assent law of the first people:
Principles of an effective legal system in Aboriginal communities

Dr Djiniyini Gondarra OAM & Richard Trudgen 22 Feb 2011

The theme of this conference is “Law and Justice within Indigenous Communities”. BUT for there to be a real rule of law and true justice for our people, then the Law our people have assented to for thousands of years must be understood and recognised by all Australians. This will require an education and negotiation process between the Australian government and our Traditional Parliaments.

This morning I want to start that education by talking about our law that Yolŋu[1] people from north-east Arnhem Land have assented to for many generations.

First we must remember that in different regions across Australia other groups of first Australians (Aboriginal people) have their own law and I have no right to talk about their Law systems.

Having said that, I must say that all the first Australian peoples have a common foundation of Law. This common foundation of Law still exists even where some of these peoples may have lost many elements of their particular Law. Even where they have lost most of the elements of their Law they still have a common foundation of law together with us and all other first Australians. It is the common law of this land that precedes all laws and systems of law. It does not matter how hard others try to deny and suppress this fact, we still have a common foundation of Law that has been practiced in this land since the beginning of human history.

However all of my comments this morning will refer to the traditional Law of the Yolŋu people from north-east Arnhem Land of which I am first, a citizen, and second a political leader.

I am a citizen because like all Yolŋu people I have assented to our Law through a ceremonial process called Waṉa Lupthun. And although we have been telling the NT and Australian Governments this for many years, still no one seems to want to understand or recognise that we are citizens of our own Clans and Nation States; it’s like we are a non people and no one can hear us or have serious dialogue and diplomatic relationships with us.

Strangely though, although we have assented to our own Law we have never assented to the Law of the Federation of Australian or any of its States or Territories: what we call “Balanda Law”. Some of us know that this new Australian Law does try to protect and nurture us but we still find it very strange, unfamiliar and very confusing – and it continues to offend us by opposing, harming and destroying us and our rights established under the Original Law of this land.

Let’s hope one day that things will change and we will be respected as a real sovereign people. Then other Australians will sit down and talk to us about some real solutions to the problems we face. This would begin a new era of hope and prosperity where a true rule of Law existed, offering law and justice on an equal footing to all the people of this land. Then we would start to solve some of the very difficult problems we face and change the very uncertain, dismal and sometimes frightening future that many of our people face.

The Madayin

Let me start by explaining the Yolŋu system of Law (Rom) that is called the Madayin [ma – d[2]ay – in]. I think it is very hard to translate this term Madayin into English as English does not seem to have a word like Madayin. The closest picture I can give you is like when we say, “The Westminster system of law”, we are talking about all the laws and legal processes and practices that come from the Westminster origins. In many ways the Madayin can be used in the same way as the “Westminster system of law” as the Madayin is the name for our complete system of Law.

When we think about the Madayin we think about all our law that relates to our rights from personal, property, our corporate clan rights through to the highest rights we have as citizens of our Riŋgitj Nation States.

The Madayin also covers our legal institutions like our parliaments, legal teaching places and processes for dispute resolution, which most English speakers call “ceremonies”. We call these places “Madayin places” and like most legal places they all are restricted in one way or another.

The Madayin also controls and determines the process we carry out at these Madayin places and how we interact with each other legally. These processes are called by their different names but can also be called Madayin dhukarr mala or Madayin processes. That is, if a new agreement needs to be made there are Madayin ways as to how we should talk, come together and how we should interact in these meetings to come to consensus decisions. In times of dispute we have Madayin processes that instruct us about how we move towards dispute resolution. All of our life processes from how to harvest and prepare our foods through to birthing [women’s domain], healing and health care, social, economic, dispute management, environmental care, living, interacting and even how to die, have Madayin processes that we should follow.

The Madayin also has all our constitutional Law and all our wäyuk laws statutes covering criminal, corporate, resource sharing, religious Laws and sanctions that apply to the breaking of these laws.[3]

So the Madayin is an all encompassing system of law.

A. Illustrating Aboriginal Customary Law as a rule of law, not rule of men
Madayin’s Origin

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Helen Dodds

the full paper is available on the net but i have cross referenced the acruicy of all my stuff from the first nations people and i was born to lore.

you wish and well you asked a simple question to a compex issue

and if free man delusion asked me to do that i would and i hope if i was shitting him he would

yes free man you know i get it you know like it was such a shock when marbo decisions wer mate contary to established precedent

was ther some thing i shared re how precednts in the courts dtoday arebeing disregarded

any way all shit to me my focus is on helping the first nations people assert their soverenty in the manner thats affords unity

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Uden Efternavn

Michael I like to try to get at the root of any discussion about Law and/or 'laws' by starting with the rights of the individual. We really need to have some kind of shared starting point - maybe we can agree on something like, eg. 'no-one can rightfully be forced to comply with the demands of another individual'.

Can we find something we agree on?

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Helen Dodds

we can only agre on the laws as they are and in which spirit they were formed if you dont know the ducks bum concering the documents that formed our foundational laws we cant agee on anything that is real and unless you understand that your wasting your time

with your tryed insults

hahaha the last time any one told some one to stop talking will they ever shut up in time the whole fracking nation think that blokes a dick head

There are only lores cultural rules from oral traditions story fairy tals that make the rules be known to the common mans mind and sole and then some one writes them and they become laws

so they can be enfoced on mass

Better think about who is forcing whose laws on who before you say that are you telling me that original first nations people are lawless they don in their law protect the individual and like it or NOT we are only equil as to the Natural laws what goes up must come down and if you jump of the cliff you will probably die ! man made laws are not for the peole that they must suufer the shit they force on us

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Helen Dodds

Fracking hell first in time first in law The Austarlian aboriginie is way in front of the whole of humanity if thats the laws they tote

why dont you all just ceed to that FACT and then we can all go on with our own business !

stop trying to tell themthey walked from africa dont be shocked any first nations person of law will tell ya they had yellow bulla here before them and the mungo mans bones prove that to be true you know the africans invaded this continent ! its in the painting the record of war in WA

the egyptions stole our bommarangs not all incidently are designed to fly

Kink solomon took their gold their gemms there is definatly a real need for some fracking truth in the history of how its been written in hind site

and the bull shit people belive was refenced to truth and experience its a joke realy

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Freeman Delusion

Uden, The use of freeman theories as a legal exception or objection to the validity of legislation is what I'm refering to.

These theories hold no legal merit, there is no precedent case law that even suggests it does, so the belief in such theories is obviously a faith-based belief system, being without any evidence or substantuation. This is a fitting description...

"OPCA litigants appear, engage in a court drama that is more akin to a magic spell ritual than an actual legal proceeding, and wait to see if the court is entranced and compliant. If not, the litigant returns home to scrutinize at what point the wrong incantation was uttered, an incorrectly prepared artifact waved or submitted." (Meads v's Meads)

On the other hand, the courts obligation to abide by many well-established legal principles and doctrines, which are recorded as precedent or "common law" rulings that the court is bound to uphold, are not something that the court has "faith" in it's applicability, it is a legal certainty, an established and observable fact, a fundamental feature of the judicial structure.

For a court to ignore these principles and rule in any individuals favour definately would be unlawful, and also illegal.

The notion of the supremacy of parliament, is indeed an established doctrine of the common law, and this fact is recorded in over 300 years of case law and precedents the court is bound to uphold.

The law-making supremacy of parliament is not something that relies on faith in it's existence, it's existence is well established and manditory.

The implication that common law somehow overrules legislation is not true at all.

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Freeman Delusion

"The law of the land depends not upon the arbitrary will of any judge; but is permanent, fixed, and unchangeable, unless by authority of parliament.... Not only the substantial part, or judicial decisions, of the law, but also the formal part, or method of proceeding, cannot be altered but by parliament." ~ William Blackstone (1760 U.K.)

The phrase "Law of the land" is a legal term, equivalent to the Latin lex terrae (or legem terrae in the accusative case). It refers to all of the laws in force within a country or region, including both statute law and common law.

"The designation of general public laws that are equally binding on all members of the community." ~ West's Encyclopedia of American Law, edition 2.

English jurists, writing of legem terrae in reference to the Magna Carta, stated that this term embraces all laws that are in force for the time being within a jurisdiction. For example, Edward Coke, commenting upon Magna Carta, wrote in 1606...

"No man be taken or imprisoned but per legem terrae, that is, by the common law, statute law, or custom of England."

Likewise, Justice Powys of the King's Bench wrote in 1704...

"Lex terrae is not confined to the common law, but takes in all the other laws, which are in force in this realm; as the civil and canon law...."

British Chief Justice John Fineux stated in 1519 that...

"The Law of God and the Law of the Land are all one, in the sense that they both protect the public good."

British Chief Justice John Vaughan further explained in 1677 that whenever the law of the land declares by a legislative act what divine law is, then the courts must consider that legislation to be correct.

Parliamentary sovereignty (also called parliamentary supremacy or legislative supremacy) is a concept in the constitutional law of some parliamentary democracies. It holds that the legislative body has absolute sovereignty, and is supreme over all other government institutions, including executive or judicial bodies. The concept also holds that the legislative body may change or repeal any previous legislation, and so that it is not bound by written law (in some cases, even a constitution) or by precedent.

In the 19th century, A.V. Dicey, a highly influential constitutional scholar and lawyer, wrote of the twin pillars of the British constitution in his classic work An Introduction to the Study of the Law of the Constitution (1885). These pillars are the principle of Parliamentary sovereignty and the rule of law. The former means that Parliament is the supreme law-making body: its Acts are the highest source of English Law.

Magistrates Willes J: "Are we to act as regents over what is done in Parliament with the consent of the Queen, Lords and commons? I deny that any such authority exists. If an Act of Parliament has been obtained improperly, it is for the legislature to correct it by repealing it: but, so long as it exists as law, the courts are bound to obey it." ~ Lee v Bude & Torrington Junction Rly Co (1871-U.K.)

"In the British tradition, sovereignty used to reside with the King or Queen as God’s representative on earth, or at least in England. Thus the power of the King or Queen - also called the sovereign – was originally absolute. The sovereign could do whatever he or she wanted, and it was the law that whatever he or she did could never be wrong.

Over time this changed. Beginning with Magna Carta in 1215 it was recognised that parliament also had some sovereign rights, that the making of future laws required the approval of parliament and that ordinary people had legal rights that the sovereign could not take away, without parliament’s approval.

Following this tradition, in Australia we now say that sovereignty resides with parliament, and the people elect the members of the various Australian parliaments."

Northern Territory Law Reform Committee: Background Paper 2

"Now there is only one legal system in Australia, and only one "law" and that is Australian law. Under the Australian legal system there are two types or sources of law: laws made by parliament (legislation) and laws made the courts (common law)."

Judges Ashley, Neave and Redlich, Melbourne Supreme Court, 11th March 2010.

http://www.unistudyguides.com/wiki/Dicey,_Parliamentary_Sovereignty_and_...

http://www.firstpoint.thomson.com.au/a24/resultDetailed.jsp;jsessionid=0...

http://www.unistudyguides.com/index.php?title=Union_Steamship_Co_of_Aust...

According to Merriam-Webster Dictionary a term ‘sovereign’ refers to a person “that exercises supreme authority within a limited sphere”. Originally this term denoted a monarch or a ruler. However, the meaning of ‘sovereign’ evolved in the Age of Enlightenment, when philosophers like Thomas Hobbes, John Locke, and Jean-Jacques Rousseau elaborated the ‘social contract’ theory. According to this theory the people were considered to be the legitimate sovereign, but they contracted their sovereignty to a ruler in return for his maintaining their safety. Hence, if the ruler failed to do this, the people were released from their obligation to obey him.

According to the Penguin Dictionary of Politics (Robertson, 1986: 305) ‘sovereignty’: “means the right to own and control some area of the world. It has nowadays nothing to do with monarchy. Its basic meaning is legitimate rule, as opposed to actual power.”

In democracies the understanding of the sovereignty is often connected with the rule of the people, thus one can talk about the sovereignty of the people. Although these two terms defined in that way are quite easy to understand, problems arise when an institution is designated as a sovereign instead of an individual or the people.

Probably the first person who described the sovereignty of Parliament as one of the fundamental features of the constitution of the UK was a British constitutional lawyer Albert Venn Dicey. In his book, An Introduction to the Study of the Law of the Constitution, Dicey (1959: 40) explains that the principle of parliamentary sovereignty means that Parliament has: “the right to make or unmake any law whatever; and, further, that no person or body is recognized by the law of England as having a right to override or set aside the legislation of Parliament."

It is essential to mention here about another famous British constitutional lawyer – Sir Ivor Jennings and his thoughts. He agreed with Dicey that the Parliament can enact legislation dealing with any subject, and that the legislation of the Parliament is superior to the jurisdiction of the courts. However, Jennings claimed also that the supremacy of the Parliament exists only in theory, because it “is a legal fiction and legal fiction can assume anything”. To prove this he gave a famous example that:

"If Parliament enacted that all men should be women, they would be women so far as the law is concerned”

http://www.globalpolitics.cz/zamereno-na-eu/the-doctrine-of-parliamentar...

"The idea that a court is entitled to disregard a provision in an Act of Parliament on any ground must seem strange and startling to anyone with any knowledge of the history and law of our constitution." ~ Pickin v British Railways Board (1974 -U.K.) HL

Magistrate Thomas J. said... "If the purpose for which a statute may be used is an invalid purpose, then such remedy as there may be must be directed to dealing with that purpose and not to invalidating the statute itself. What the statute itself enacts cannot be unlawful, because what the statute says and provides is itself the law, and the highest from of law that is known to this country. It is the law which prevails over every other form of law, and it is not for the court to say that a parliamentary enactment, the highest law in this country, is illegal." ~ Cheney v Conn [Inspector of Taxes] (1968 -U.K.) Chancery Division

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Freeman Delusion

"There is little point in searching for additional expositions of, or foundations for, the principle that courts will presume that legislation does not overrule the common law in the absence of clear and express terms, given that it is so clear and that it was not really contested by the State. In English legal history the principle can be traced back for at least 300 years and probably further. It has been applied countless times in Australia, including in the construction of legislation governing privately owned minerals and the public acquisition thereof.

Secondly, the applicant invoked Sir Owen Dixon's reminder that the principle of parliamentary supremacy is itself a doctrine of the common law.

Members of a legislature, such as the Parliament of New South Wales, are regularly answerable to the electors, whereas judges in Australia are not. Judges recognise that, whatever the deficiencies of electoral democracy, the necessity of answering to the electorate at regular intervals has a tendency to curb legislative excesses. Many judges reject "the role of a Platonic guardian" and are "pleased to live in a society that does not thrust [that role] upon [them]". Most judges in Australia would probably share this relatively modest conception of their role. In this conception, the duty of obedience to a law made by a Parliament of a State derives from the observance of parliamentary procedures and the conformity of the resulting law with the State and federal Constitutions. It does not rest upon judicial pronouncements to accord, or withhold, recognition of the law in question by reference to the judge's own notions of fundamental rights, apart from those constitutionally established."

Durham Holdings Pty Ltd v New South Wales (1999) 47 NSWLR 340

"However, any presumption, rule of construction, or imputed intention is subject to valid legislative provisions to the contrary. Judges may decline to read such legislation as having such an effect. The more peremptory, arbitrary and unjust the provisions, the less willing a judge may be to impute such a purpose to an Australian lawmaker. But a point will be reached where the law in question is "clear and unambiguous". Various other verbal formulae are used in the reasoning of this Court to describe that point. They are collected by the Court of Appeal in its reasons. Once that point is reached, subject to any constitutional invalidity, the judge has no authority to ignore or frustrate the commands of the lawmaker. To do so would be to abuse judicial power, not to exercise it.

The applicant was unable to point to any judicial pronouncements, let alone a decided case, which indicated, at any time, that any such principle existed in the common law of England, or of the colonies of Australasia, or of Australia. It advocated the development of the common law, by the recognition of such a principle for the first time in this case." ~ Union Steamship Co of Australia Pty Ltd v King (1988) 166 CLR 1

http://www.firstpoint.thomson.com.au/a24/resultDetailed.jsp;jsessionid=0...

http://www.unistudyguides.com/.../Union_Steamship_Co_of...

Thomson Reuters
www.firstpoint.thomson.com.au

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Helen Dodds

are these rights enshrined as in part of our constitution in the hapious (?) corpus. and the acts interpretation act .

are they not FMD

our conection to common law and the act that heps us understand their language

and the laws they wrote

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Freeman Delusion

Yes Helen, the legislative powers of parliaments are detailed in the federal and state constitutions.

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Freeman Delusion

COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA CONSTITUTION ACT - SECT 109 - Inconsistency of laws

"When a law of a State is inconsistent with a law of the Commonwealth, the latter shall prevail, and the former shall, to the extent of the inconsistency, be invalid."

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/coaca430/s109.html

The term "Law of the Commonwealth" is legislation enpowered under section 51 of the Commonwealth Constitution Act 1901 enacted in the federal parliament.

The term "Law of a State" (as applicable to NSW) is legislation enpowered by section 5 of the NSW Constitution Act 1902 enacted in the NSW parliament.

Both are "legislation", or "statute law", and both are likewise constitutionally founded and therefore "lawfully" enacted.

As Section 51 and other provisions of the constitution prescribe only limited legislative powers to the Commonwealth, Australian states have considerably broad legislative powers.

NEW SOUTH WALES CONSTITUTION ACT 1902 - SECT 5 - General legislative powers

"The Legislature shall, subject to the provisions of the Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act, have power to make laws for the peace, welfare, and good government of New South Wales in all cases whatsoever."

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/ca1902188/s5.html

The legislative powers of the Commonwealth on the other hand, are limited to a mere 39 catagories, in section 51 of the federal constitution...

COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA CONSTITUTION ACT - SECT 51 - Legislative powers of the Parliament

"The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws for the peace, order, and good government of the Commonwealth with respect to..."

www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/coaca430/s51.html

COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA CONSTITUTION ACT - SECT 118 - Recognition of laws etc. of States

"Full faith and credit shall be given, throughout the Commonwealth to the laws, the public Acts and records, and the judicial proceedings of every State."

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/coaca430/s118.html

This means that the Commonwealth must give full faith and credit to the legislative processes of the states...

COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA CONSTITUTION ACT - SECT 106 - Saving of state constitutions

"The Constitution of each State of the Commonwealth shall, subject to this Constitution, continue as at the establishment of the Commonwealth, or as at the admission or establishment of the State, as the case may be, until altered in accordance with the Constitution of the State."

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/coaca430/s106.html

This means that the existing laws of a state cannot even be altered by the federal body, but only by the provisions of that particular state.

COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA CONSTITUTION ACT - SECT 107 - Saving of Power of State Parliaments

"Every power of the Parliament of a Colony which has become or becomes a State, shall, unless it is by this Constitution exclusively vested in the Parliament of the Commonwealth or withdrawn from the Parliament of the State, continue as at the establishment of the Commonwealth, or as at the admission or establishment of the State, as the case may be."

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/coaca430/s107.html

This means that the legislative powers of a state cannot be diminished by the federal body, but only by the provisions of that particular state.

COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA CONSTITUTION ACT - SECT 108 - Saving of State laws

"Every law in force in a Colony which has become or becomes a State, and relating to any matter within the powers of the Parliament of the Commonwealth, shall, subject to this Constitution, continue in force in the State; and, until provision is made in that behalf by the Parliament of the Commonwealth, the Parliament of the State shall have such powers of alteration and of repeal in respect of any such law as the Parliament of the Colony had until the Colony became a State."

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/coaca430/s107.html

This means that the existing laws of a state cannot even be altered by the federal body, but only by the provisions of that particular state.

COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA CONSTITUTION ACT - SECT 109 Inconsistency of laws
www.austlii.edu.au

When a law of a State is inconsistent with a law of the Commonwealth, the latter shall prevail, and the former shall, to the extent of the inconsistency, be invalid.

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Helen Dodds

you mean like in the Victorian constitution if the monarch should be removed business was to be conducted as usual as it had never taken place ?

like the 1975 vic constitution could not over turn laws made in UK and set in ours in Australia ?

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Uden Efternavn Michael

Thanks Freeman Delusion I see I have some reading ahead of me. You've done some good research, so I'm gonna have to spend some time going through it. Good thing I've got the day off!

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Helen Dodds

like the two acts attached to the document in 1856 inspired by the eureka rebellion ?

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Arthur Cristian

Its ALL a fairytale Helen. Your direct experience with nature, with no 3rd party in and of 3rd party storytelling getting in-between you and nature, is where your/our true power resides. Watch out for the "illuminated light" of spelling letters and words because they will put you under the "spell" that has you be Dorothy going down the Yellow Brick Road or Alice in Wonderland through the Looking Glass, TRAPPED in "The System" of a con-structed fairytale made out of letters and words (incantations) with no way out. Forget their words, their letters, their books, their his-story/her-story, their laws, their this and that as it is all BULLSHIT.

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Helen Dodds

hahahah I know what a min min lite looks like and that's all i need to know hahaha thanks any way I'm well know to be off with the pixies haha that is where i choose to be and well that is not any ones concern of anyone but me only time will tell F.... THE ILLUMINATI I have no fear of them and their ways ! GET ME I DARE THEM

Helen Dodds hahaha why would they bother i know nothing you think that my truth is a threat to them hahahha F... THEM

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Arthur Cristian

Good on you

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Helen Dodds

best they dont ever underestimate me But Just saying

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Helen Dodds

Arthur Cristian fairdinkum mate JUST thum your nose at them the wole lot fear mongers and terrorists

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Helen Dodds

I'm on to them thanks for your warning I was programed by the masters The first nations people of lore and about that i never jest and in time they will prove that !

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Freeman Delusion

Denial of legal reality and ignorance of the law is not a solution Arthur, and neither is it a valid defence of charges resulting from that ignorance. Anti-interlectualism is a cop-out. If you want to impact real change, you must at least try to understand the system legitimately, to understand the beast you are trying to rein in.

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Helen Dodds

hahaha you see read some of my poems inspired by the sprit of lore

yes free man that is so true what did pablo say some thing know the laws like a scolar and break them like an artist

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Arthur Cristian

The point is to focus/place ALL our life-energy co-creating (with) nature and the more of us who come-together to do this, the less we have to deal with "The System" but this means being free of self-centeredness as this is the pull of e-motion that binds us to "The System".

The E-go is the "name" of trauma and is the demon/phantom that hoods us with letters and words.

E = ecclesiastical.

E-go & E-motion are the letters and words that form the reaction to trauma that are the spells of "The System". They are the unnatural programs instilled into us, instructing us how to perform the "name" we "claim" in and of "The System" of third parties.

It is not enough to just think we are on our way out of this man-made hell that is "The System" because the e-motion/e-go, if not confronted and healed, will continue to keep us divided and ruled.

These 3rd party storytellers (Freemasons/Satanists) use trauma derived from ritual sacrifices (babies, children, teenagers, adults, animals) to energise their letters and words to form the drones, robots, slaves "instructional" (E) IMAGE POWER containing/embodying the programmed trauma which has interceded between MAN and nature/earth and between MAN and MAN and is the divide in each of us that they use to rule us over with.

This divide IS the e-go, is the pull of e-motion and is "NAME". The "name" is the mark of the beast that is the abomination of trauma and reactions to trauma. The "name" forms the rules of the divide = in-divide-u-all-s (individuals).

Through horrific black-magic that is the deeply traumatised fairytales encoded in fantasy, illusion and delusion, the "illuminated" letters and words, we have all been brilliantly deceived into pulling away from the wholeness of MANS consciousness that is the dream of life.

You completely destroy their "world", their "laws", their "power", their "hold" by forcing/making them process the curses of their "own" making without doubt or uncertainty, etc. The ground of this is covered in the Sequential Order of Love For Life videos, articles, debates, etc.

Also, refer to the Mountain Man post 6th May 2014 on Arthur's FB wall: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203651756842542 and scroll up (and down) from there to explore many other posts relating to this subject.

The latest article/debate contains the Sequential Order

Routing Out Psyop Programs
Routs Out Intel Operatives
Exposing Max Igan's Psyop Program

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 31st May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8524

Coming together selflessly to co-create nature we are now the wind under each others wings raising each other up and out of "The System" of HELL.

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Helen Dodds

yep you focus your energy where you want it to be and ill focus mine where i want it to be great info thanks for that Arthur Cristian Are you a Christian ?

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Arthur Cristian

Coming together selflessly to co-create nature we are now the wind under each others wings raising each other up and out of "The System" of HELL. Christianity is a fairytale

It is critical that we each recognise reactions to trauma in all its nefarious forms and withdraw peacefully from giving these e-motions power to the e-go ("name").

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Helen Dodds

oh well thanks for that truth ! the ability to come together is a selfish act a need for something for your self hehehe iv blabbed on enough today but there is method in my reasoning good night Arthur Cristian its been excellent chatting and talking at the wall that is FB love harmony look after number one and mind your own business I was taught by a very humble most generous man that if tis is the way your lfe is run everything else falls in to place may your life be as balanced as you wish it to be !

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Helen Dodds

Ps I also think that christianity is a farytail hehehe good on ya

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Arthur Cristian

There is an essential transition required here and now which requires all of us coming together to help each other completely withdraw from "The System" and back to NO SYSTEM (no man-made system).

The goal is to set us all free from being under each other forevermore which we can't do while all around us are trapped in "The System".

The correct intention for WHOLENESS is to create freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, do no harm, no loss of uniqueness/originality, no slaves and rulers for everyone and everything all-around us because when others around us have freedom, truth........ etc, then we have it too.

Thinking for "self" ("name") is a mis-con-ception.

If all-around us are trapped in "The System" then we reside in the midst of HELL.

Is a Christian Patriot truly free when he/she/they are armed to their teeth barricaded behind walls in readiness for anyone wanting to come over the walls to get at their food, land, etc, ?????

MAN was never meant to "own" anything - if we "owned" (not let go) our last breath, drink, meal, we will die. The same fallen "state" occurs when we "claim"/"own" land. All this is trauma based, all done in "name".

"NAME" is an abomination.

We do not need "name".

Do we have to jump ten feet across a room to grab our next breath? Of course not, we've already got it all-around us. Everything of truth is like this. We already have EVERYTHING we need and so much more if we surrender "name" and everything of "name". The whole of "The System" is a "name" within millions and millions of "names". Each letter is a "name". Each number is a "name". The WHOLE of "The System" is constructed out of "name". The supermarket is FULL of names", the suburbs, the media, the laws, the religions, the holy books, etc, etc, ALL OF IT "ILLUMINATED LIGHT". This is all explained in great detail in the Love For Life articles, videos, debates, etc....

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Arthur Cristian

E-go "spell" is the worst of the lot....... AGREED - How many babies, children, teenagers, adults, animals have they ritually sacrificed and continue sacrificing (probably in great numbers every week across Earth) to cast the trauma of their "spells over all infected by e-go????

The intention of these sacrifices being to feed the grid, the matrix of letters & words that forms and sustains "The System" of NAMES. These Satanists/Freemasons work very hard to keep everyone paralysed (divided) and therefore trapped in "The System". They are doing everything they can to stop us leaving their hell.

All the e-motion/reaction to trauma we experience is derived from all these horrific ritual-sacrifices and its all done through the water of our (MANS) breath.

The ritualised trauma of the murdered children, babies, adults, etc. is the glue they use to keep us trapped and (e)nslaved to "name", to the beast that is hell.

Give up "name" and we give up reacting to their trauma (ritual sacrifices) too.

Every letter was born out of ritual sacrifice, every word was crafted out of ritual sacrifice too.

THIS IS WHY WE (NAMES") WERE ALL BORN IN ORIGINAL SIN, the original sin being the sacrifice of MANS babies, children, adults, etc.....

The pull of e-motion (reaction to trauma) we experience IS the blatant effects (experiences) of our brothers/sisters being ritually sacrificed (horrifically murdered). NOWHERE ELSE DOES THIS TRAUMA COME FROM. These e-motions are set into motion in the water of MANS (our) breath to effect us all with. This is the ONLY reason why they do this. We are all connected through the water of our breath which is MANS living consciousness. How we think, feel and act effects at least another MAN somewhere across Earth. We are all at the effect of each other.

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Arthur Cristian

The "Illuminated Light" IS the ritual sacrifice of our brothers and sisters. The "Illuminated Light" is the capture of the souls of our brothers and sisters and used for the effects of trauma (reactions to trauma - the pull of e-motions) upon all of us. Conscious or not, this "illuminated light" is what Intel Operatives are trained to use - they are trained to manipulate us through reactions to trauma ("illuminated light - murdered souls). Max Igan does this as is Kate Of Gaia, David Icke, Mark Passio, Santos Bonacci, Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, Benjamin Fulford, Michael Tsarion, David Wilcox, George Green, Peter Joseph, Mark Darwin, Mark Pytellek, Mark McMurtrie, etc, etc, etc, etc.... casts of thousands of Intel Operatives spread out across Earth. They all work with the sacrifices of our brothers and sisters to manipulate us. THIS IS FACT. For an example, observe how Max Igan was performing these trauma based rituals in this thread here:

Routing Out Psyop Programs
Routs Out Intel Operatives
Exposing Max Igan's Psyop Program

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 31st May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8524

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Arthur Cristian

Capturing the soul (water/MANS-consciousness) is what all these Satanic Ritual sacrifices are all about. They use these deeply traumatised souls ("illuminated Light") to perform all the nefarious tasks Satanists dream for (intend) - they live for the outcomes of the effects of trauma they set into motion. NOTHING ELSE IS GOING ON - When you watch these videos just remember that producing trauma is what is required to control all of MAN lost to the letters and words of "The System" of "name" - These black-magic priests are creating "names" with every song they sing during ritual sacrifices.

Code O2T Torture: Lifting Out the Soul for a Satanic Ritual in a Sacrifice to a Pharaonic Deity
OCTOGON SWITZERLAND OF THE TEMPLARS: THE BASE OF ALL EVIL
http://youtu.be/jNsx_iZGTqs

Satanic Ritual Child Sacrifices Exposed
The intricate web of life that is nature, & all that we see, which binds us all in wholeness can only be severed by fantasy, illusion, delusion, fear & trauma. Satanism is this conditioning "practice" of separation enforced. To maintain a "state" of separation between us the Satanists "craft" belief systems & put in "practice" a "System" for us to perpetuate it. All occults, esoterics, science, New Age, "Oneness", race, culture, creed, education, commerce, etc, the basis of all fantasy, illusion & delusion that ever appeared, existed/exist ONLY to maintain MANS separation (fallen "state"). Satanism is found all across Earth. All involved in the fall were once innocent babies. This is not a "Jewish" problem, instead it is MANS problem. Ritual Sacrifice started in Ancient Egypt & spread from there & is endemic today. Satanists perform all kinds of rituals to instill a wedge between us so that we can't come together in wholeness again. Keeping us individualised (in-divide-u-all-ised) permits Satanists to rule over all of us, hence their manufactured, races, cultures, religions & "systems", as documented across their recorded ages, with remote Gods, Deities, Beings, Heavens, Hells, etc. Using them as shields, Satanists hide behind all races, cultures, creeds & systems to use MAN (us).
To continue please go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8232
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jTdc04ODU4

Dr Sean Hross YouTube channel
provides lots of background to Satanism - just remember EVERYTHING you see to do with Satanism/Freemasonry is for "illuminated Light" - without it, they have NO power over MAN.
https://www.youtube.com/user/giureh

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Chaz Le

my goodness me, fix your own backyard first

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Arthur Cristian

Are you an expert in "fixing your "own" backyard"? Can we please site your "fix your own backyard first" authorised certificate. Can you also please provide us with the fixed physical address location where many of us can come and witness the results of your "fixing your own backyard first" = assuming you are implying something like paradise as a clear distinction to "The System"?

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Chaz Le

Expert or not, thats what you do....

https://www.facebook.com/JudicialApartheid?ref=bookmarks
Genocide & Crimes against Humanity, inc Crime of Judicial Apartheid
Come help us assert the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court and Universal Declaration on Human Rights at the Human Rights Council

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Arthur Cristian

Now you are changing the subject - why are you avoiding answering the questions raised with you. What has "Genocide & Crimes against Humanity, inc Crime of Judicial Apartheid" got to do with fixing your "own" backyard first", which is blatantly in and off third party = reactions to trauma = LIES/DECEPTION, meaning they are not a remedy that gets MAN out of "The System" of hell forevermore, instead it keeps MAN trapped in "The System". Is "The System" your "God", your master?

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Chaz Le

You are BLATANTLY in denial, MY WORK IS MY WORK, I dont dream up Aliens, Boogiemen under my bed, Lizards from Outer space......And you seem to know the conditions which ail you by your description of symptoms

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Arthur Cristian

Why are you relying upon educated slaves, part of a system of slavery, do you believe that these slaves will free you from slavery?

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Arthur Cristian

Now you are blatantly lying and lying and lying...... where have we made such claims" "I dont dream up Aliens, Boogiemen under my bed, Lizards from Outer space......And you seem to know the conditions which ail you by your description of symptoms". ???????

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Chaz Le

Correct me if I am wrong, You played the BANKERS' GAME and YOU LOST.....But you had NO legal argument except for self-entitlements?

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Arthur Cristian

That was many years ago and Arthur has since completely pulled "name" out of "The System" years ago too. Have you done this?

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Chaz Le

The ONLY person I rely on is MYSELF.....lesson learnt a long time ago

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Arthur Cristian

So what has that got to do with all the info we have shared here????

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Arthur Cristian

Why are you trying to create a controversy where there isn't one?????

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Chaz Le

here is your symptom: " = reactions to trauma = LIES/DECEPTION" UNLike our friend FD, you dont seem to have the Stockholm Syndrome, but utter hatred, which is good

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Arthur Cristian

We have answered all your questions but you are yet to answer hardly any of ours, if any!!!!

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Chaz Le

here is my answer: = reactions to trauma = LIES/DECEPTION

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Arthur Cristian

We don't hate ANYONE or ANYTHING of nature. We used to - not anymore.

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Chaz Le

Here's my answer: You thought you had a great tactics, but NO strategy....(Hard to beat the bankers) http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/10/31/2865821/jonathan-chait-keyst...

thinkprogress.org

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Chaz Le

Delusions or NOT, I do think I have a strategy:
https://www.facebook.com/RDAsavesROLConstitution
RDA to save the Rule of Law and the Australian Constitution
Can the Racial Discrimination Act 1975 save the Rule of Law, the Australian Constitution & Victorian Charter from corrupt Men & Women corrupted by the Law

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Arthur Cristian

Every letter/word is a 3rd party con-struct, therefore does not exist - example "apartheid", "court", "judicial", "law", "money", :judge", a, b, c, 1, 2, 3, compass, square, etc, etc, they do not exist, are fairytales = reactions to trauma.

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Chaz Le

we shall see what we shall see

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Chaz Le

Yes those are YOUR reactions to trauma, and it was mine too, so I too had to pick myself up

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Arthur Cristian

How can something that does not exist, that has no life-force energy, has no free-will, no natural power, etc, provide remedy for the living???

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Freeman Delusion

Umm, Arthur, this is quite a pile of political philosophy and almost religious conspiracy theories. Despite that I don't agree with the name theory, there's nothing of any benefit to a legal situation as described, so nothing really to do with the premise of this post.

Do you mind not using threads as your own advertising platform bloke..?? I mean, by all means discuss, but this "info" you're spamming my post with is about as irrelevant to the topic as shoe sale spam.

I've never minded you posting your links on their own on my wall as you have done for years, but this is sort of interfering with conversations that are more pertaining to the topic, and filling this thread with irrelevancy.

I will be removing some of these comments.

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Chaz Le

"An idea is like a virus, resilient, highly contagious. The smallest seed of an idea can grow. It can grow to define or destroy you. An idea. Resilient... highly contagious. Once an idea has taken hold of the brain it's almost impossible to eradicate. An idea that is fully formed - fully understood - that sticks; right in there somewhere." http://1.bp.blogspot.com/.../waADRJV2s8U/s1600/Brain.jpg

1.bp.blogspot.com

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Arthur Cristian

Rob, all the con-struts that forms letters, words are fairytales - they are most definitely relevant to this thread. Would you like to have a debate about this during the "day" tomorrow, lets put all this to the test of scrutiny???. As you say "YOU ARE BEING DUMBED DOWN WITH FAIRYTALES."

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Arthur Cristian

Rob, these comments are a load of bullshit "political philosophy and almost religious conspiracy theories.". You made all this up out of thin air, is make-believe. Would you like to put all this to the test of scrutiny to back your claims??? We are all up for learning and keep learning.

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Chaz Le

They have learnt the Art of Human farming: and You couldnt change the narrative......NO ARGUMENTS.........http://posteados.com/.../quotes-images-pictures-phrases...

posteados.com

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Chaz Le

Fairytales are like cliches, too easily dismissed with understanding their wisdon

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Arthur Cristian

Then bring forward the first party "court", "judge", "politician". "bank", etc, and we are not addressing 3rd party men and women acting under costumes and titles as 1st parties = fraud/lies as in politician, judge, money, bank = fairytales, etc....

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Chaz Le

More scary than all the monsters and demons you can dream up:

https://scontent-b-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/.../1795569...

scontent-b-lax.xx.fbcdn.net

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Arthur Cristian

Rob, this comment "Denial of legal reality and ignorance of the law is not a solution Arthur, and neither is it a valid defence of charges resulting from that ignorance. Anti-interlectualism is a cop-out. If you want to impact real change, you must at least try to understand the system legitimately, to understand the beast you are trying to rein in." ------- keeps you trapped in "The System". Refer to the Mountain Man post - scroll down to see what Arthur (MAN) does to them and they all just walk out - dismiss everything and destroy all records. With no "name" they can't do anything - on top of this they get terrified of having to process the curses of their "own" making". As we have offered, would you like to have a chat about all this tomorrow or another day suitable for all of us where we could even video record it and upload it all to YouTube for all to learn, see it as a gift to help others and not a battle between brothers....

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Chaz Le

try an audio debate first hey?

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Arthur Cristian

Scrutiny is a powerful way of learning from each other especially when everyone involved are not on e-go trips and are sincere and pure in their intentions and go where the logic of truth/sense takes them. Fiona is off to bed - says this Friday will be suitable for her.

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Arthur Cristian

Rob, we are being VERY SERIOUS here now, we are NOT messing around with you, this is not a power trip, etc, coming from us, We are just challenging you to back your claims and you can do this with us.

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Freeman Delusion

I'm not discussing political philosophy or hypothetical suggestions on how society should function according to the many various opinions on the planet.

I'm discussing LAW, not philosophy. Law is not ever as broad in description, it is well established and has very clear and express terms and proceedures.

I'm way out of denial, and cannot pretend the law doesn't exist, or that ALL validly-enacted legislative acts of parliament are not both a constitutional provision and a fundamental doctrine of the common law. It's clearly delusional.

There is literally centuries of case law and historical record to support the validity of the rule of law and the notion of parliamentary supremacy, and a magistrate is not even permitted to challenge the validity of legislative acts on any other grounds but it's constitutionality, not random ethical or philosophical differences.

That's the premise of this post.

Do you have any valid precedents or rulings that dispute the principle that parliament is not the supreme law-making body, and that it's legislature is a fundamental provision of the law of the land..??

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Arthur Cristian

There is no valid precedence in law for NON-SLAVES - WAKE UP ROB. The law IS ONLY FOR SLAVES. WAKE UP....

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Arthur Cristian

The records are for "names" slaves., precedence in law is ONLY for slaves........ they are all still trapped in "The System". The living MAN HAS NO RECORD ROB - The living MAN is NOT RECORDED in their BOOKS, ledgers, journals, etc.......they do not exist in their world because they are not of their world. WAKE up Rob.

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Arthur Cristian

This is said with love for our brother.

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Chaz Le

I thought YOU left all that behind? NO use hanging onto the resentment man

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Arthur Cristian

No resentment - just PASSION directed at Rob. Rob has a very good heart and he should take what we say in the true spirit from where it was intended to be.

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Chaz Le

Relax, chill out, live your life as you wished....the Ledgers are real they record their Zero-Sum Games of Human Farming....I will deal with it

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Chaz Le

Some are NOT recorded to hide their crimes NO DOUBT

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Arthur Cristian

You go into their "world" with "name" you are admitting to being in and of their world. THIS IS FACT

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Chaz Le

Well I cannot live in MY OWN LITTLE WORLD, human are social animals after all

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Arthur Cristian

Like we say, YOU MAKE THEM PROCESS THE CURSES OF THEIR "OWN" MAKING. BUT YOU MUST NOT PROCESS THEIR CURSES WHICH YOU DO WHEN YOU USE "NAME".

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Chaz Le

NAME or NUMBERS, you are recorded even now

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Arthur Cristian

We are part of co-creating a large tribe = Kindom, involving hundreds of families, children, grand parents, nothing lonely about this.

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Freeman Delusion

You have no standing for immunity to the law Arthur. Not identifying yourself can actually have you detained until confirmation. You are basicly and illegal immigrant, and have f.... all rights. Without a person, you have nothing to attach any rights to. That's what a person is for.

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Chaz Le

You are ALL part of the Chaos theory, space dust floating in space and time

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Arthur Cristian

This MAN uses other peoples "names" to communicate with you. The intentions of this MAN is not contracting with "The System" of "names". You must know who you really are to be so.

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Chaz Le Go

watch the Matrix Movie, you will like it

Blade Runner, Brazil, 2001: ASO, 1984, None of your ideas are unique

They are just academic and not really useful

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Freeman Delusion

That is fraud and giving a false name is also and offense.

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Arthur Cristian

There is NO fraud being committed by us - nothing gained from anyone. no one misled, no one harmed, used, abused, etc, etc..... For fraud to occur and be substantiated there must be an injured party, someone coerced into fraud, etc. Fiona and others who support this MAN provide gifts for this MAN to do what he does. This is NOT Fraud Rob. Everything we are doing is out in the open for all to see, all of it is in PLAIN SIGHT, is part of our FULL-DISCLOSURE clearly expressed with Love For Life and its website since 2005/2007. Everyone knows who they are dealing with.

Rob, You are admitting to being so far out of the depth of TRUTH of what we have been doing on the front-line Rob, seriously you are being blinded by fairytales, by reactions to trauma. No offense to the living-MAN you really are. You really have no idea as to what is really going on as reflected by such comments as the ones posted in this thread to us.

OK, it's clear we are not welcome here - we do not exist to force our views down your throat. So we leave you to pursue the continuation of your belief systems (argue for your limitations and sure enough they are yours). Our door is always open for you Rob. You are most welcome to visit us whenever, however, if ever you feel inspired to do so. .

As for this comment "You are ALL part of the Chaos theory, space dust floating in space and" and many others you are posting in this thread Chaz Le, they are lies and lies and lies. All you are doing here is trying to impersonate our characters and you can only do this by attempting to kidnap them so you can impersonate us and make out (make believe) that the claims you are making up are coming from us, are our dreams, our lives, our intentions, our thoughts, feelings, etc....... when the fact is, you made them all up. This is slander and is fraud and is lying.

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Arthur Cristian

Rob, also this comment of yours

" You have no standing for immunity to the law Arthur. Not identifying yourself can actually have you detained until confirmation. You are basicly and illegal immigrant, and have f.... all rights. Without a person, you have nothing to attach any rights to. That's what a person is for."

is an admittance that you have no real idea as to what is really going on, and if you did, then this makes you incredibly dangerous to the well being of others who are blatantly being misled by your peddling of lies. All you are doing here is insisting and testifying that you as "name" in and of 3rd party, continue being a slave in "The System" and that you want everyone else to remain slaves in "The System" so that you can receive the privileges, benefits, services derived from slavery, from men and women and children brainwashed into being educated slaves. NOW WHY IS THAT??????

The law is NOT your (MANS) law.

The offer to have a debate with us is there to prove to you incontrovertibly that you are lying and supporting lies, innocent or not. If you do not challenge us, it is an admittance that you do not want your lies to be exposed for all to see. If you really believe you have the truth on your side then you really have nothing to be concerned about.

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Arthur Cristian

We are posting this whole thread on the three Love For Life Facebook walls and in the Love For Life website. You are being challenged - Lets see what you are made of Rob.

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Freeman Delusion

I cannot debate a delusion Arthur, especially one that denies the existence of common law precedents being the deciding factor in similar cases being a fundamental of the rule of law. To encourage people to delude themselves of such is dangerous,

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Arthur Cristian WHAT A F.............COP OUT - YOU GUTLESS F............ WIMP....

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Arthur Cristian

You are admitting to presently showing up as being pathetic. We know the law better than you - that is apparent now by such bullshit posts that you have just dredged up.

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Arthur Cristian

You really have NO IDEA what you are talking about. Rob.

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Freeman Delusion

I can challenge you to get charged for an offence and debate your delusion with a magistrate. It seems you cannot accept evidence when presented, but that won't work in court.

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Earthica-Star Soveran

FD... please prove that common law applies to me... and please... try to use coherent sentences and make some sense... thank you

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Arthur Cristian

Lies are lies - lies do not stand up against a living MAN. Only liars deal with liars/lies. A massive difference here. NO MAGISTRATE or JUDGE WILL TAKE ON THIS MAN.

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Arthur Cristian

Don't you get it - we destroy them with full-responsibility/liability - this MAN goes into their courts to have them be caught so they FLEE - this MAN comes with full-responsibility/liability for everything this MAN thinks feels and does. This MAN forces them to instantly depart limited liability/responsibility and bring them "under" full liability/responsibility for everything they think, feel and do. Watch them flee. They do not want to process their curses of their "own" making. We know of at least 20 families in law completely ruined destroyed and 17 pedophiles committing suicide, all of them were visited by Arthur, all were forced to process the curses of their "own" making. This is not something to gloat and brag about, in fact it saddens us when we receive news of such outcomes. We are now not the only ones doing this to harm doers Rob. We are just sharing with you the basic facts of real outcomes going on.

All lies are curses and all liars are processing curses. We protect the privacy of those we target. But let us assure you that word is spreading fast and many in law, etc, are now no longer thinking they are infallible. We are very serious, committed and determined in what we do. We do not create curses - we use their "own" curses against themselves, their families, loved ones, associates and beneficiaries and they have NO escape unless they make whole with all those they harmed or sought to harm. This is all explained in great detail in our Love For Life posts. This is the most peaceful, non-violent way of dealing with terrible harm-doers. Our conscience is clear. We accept their free-will to dream whatever BUT we force them to experience the outcomes/consequences of their "own" making.

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Earthica-Star Soveran

haha... that's what i thought

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Arthur Cristian

You don't f.... around with letters, words, constructs, fictions, bullshit-fairytales - we DEAL ONLY with the living, first party to first party - always with FULL-RESPONSIBILITY/LIABILITY - Your common law ROB IS A LOAD OF F............ BULLSHIT.

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Arthur Cristian

Rob, unless you want to do harm, be party to harm, this MAN will destroy any "court" actions you undertake with this MAN. You won't even be able to begin to apply your "common law" because it was already destroyed before you could even open your mouth. So lets ask you again, you gutless wimp, are you up for a debate to back all your claims with us???

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Freeman Delusion

The debate you are asking for is akin to a muslim debating a christian, with the muslim only using the koran as proof, which the christian doesn't accept, and the christian using the bible, which the muslim doesn't accept. It is pointless, and there can be no end result.

Likewise, if you do not even accept the basics fundamentals of rule of law, precedents do not prove anything to you, regardless of how valid and applicable they are, and your unintelligible ramblings prove nothing to me neither. It is pointless, and there can be no end result.

But as I said, since you are claiming your untouchable, and the ONLY WAY to PROVE IT is to get charged and debate a magistrate.

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Arthur Cristian

Rob, you are now being seen for who you really are - there are many who have eyes to "see" and they are "seeing" you for who you really.

We are not Christians or Muslims, we are not religious or involved in any cults or sects, we are non-violent, carry no weapons, we are not part of anything alternative or not, political, science based or not, we are not shepherds or sheeple, we are clean living, take no drugs, social or big-pharma, we don't drink alcohol, we do not kill and eat animals and their dairy products, we are raw-living food eaters, we refuse to lie and be party to lying, we are focused on withdrawing from supporting and causing harm-doing as fast as we possibly can. We are not into freeman/sovereignty bullshit or any other MAN-made laws that supports a slavery system which common law and natural law is part of. We have raised four young daughters who live for the do no harm values and we have helped vast amounts of people over the years who have been in trouble because they were misled by many liars and lies. We walk-the-talk.

Again, your comments are full of bullshit. You are seriously one very scared, gutless pathetic wimp who can't back his claims and needs the law he relies on to protect him. HHHmmmmmmmmm - Says a lot Rob. there are many liars who do what you do.

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Freeman Delusion

As you can see, these are not even my opinion, but the recorded principles of the rule of law, established for centuries.

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Arthur Cristian

No, they are not OUR (MANS) Laws Rob. They are the laws of slavery you uphold. THIS IS FACT and you are fighting for the continuation of slavery. THIS IS FACT.

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Arthur Cristian

His-Story/Her-Story

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
2005-2006

His-Story/Her-Story (History)
Arthur Cristian - Love For Life
2005-2007
Reposted 5th July 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8529

Much of his-story/her-story, ancient or not, has been twisted and unless you can rout out all the lies/liars you will be thinking that everything you are reading is true and this is how you become brainwashed - nothing to learn from brainwashing.

Were you there?

Do you know any sensory-live 1st party you can bring forward who was there? And we're not talking about a brainwashed drone coming forward acting under costume and title, or not, as a 3rd party re-presentative of whatever his-story/her-story they claim to be true.

Up to roughly 1780AD, 99.99% of the total population of MAN all across Earth could not read or write any alphabet language. Even up to 1930AD still more than 90% of the population of MAN all across earth were illiterate to alphabet languages. Of today's supposed 6.7 to 7 billion population of MAN, none of their ancestors going back through all recorded his-story/her-story had ANYTHING to do with recording it because they were not able to read and write any alphabet language; they ONLY had their tribal/village sounds, tongues, talk, songs, arts, hand-body gestures, etc.....

When serfs/commoners/renters (slaves) went to war* to fight for their land-lords, land-barons, Kings/Queens, etc, etc, on the front-line of battle, their masters were the ones talking in Greek, Latin, Hebrew, Old English, etc, all of which was Martian-talk/gobbledygook to the serfs.

The ONLY ones who could read and write to record his-story/her-story were the owners of the castles, the land-lords, land-barons, the royal families, aristocrats, the high-priest-hoods and all their scribes and lackeys and they re-presented roughly 20 per one million of the population of MAN going back through ALL recorded his-story/her-story.

The victors wrote ALL the his-story/her-story and it is biased to suit their short and long-term objectives/agendas. It was ONLY these privileged "chosen-ones" who recorded ALL his-story/her-story so no matter what version of alphabet-language history you dive into it was recorded by them. This is FACT.

It takes the better part of 20 years to master the "craft" and "practice" of an alphabet language and this includes mastering mathematics and geometry/sacred geometry (fictitious rules of the divide as in measurements, time, space, levels, planes, dimensions, etc.). All read and write alphabet languages are crafted out of mathematics and geometry/sacred geometry and are all abominations and make-believe. None of them are real or true - they are not our true tongue (song/dream of life).

We are all the descendants of tribes of MAN all across Earth who were invaded, raped, pillaged, plundered, humiliated, ridiculed, abused, decimated, destroyed, and the victims of vast genocide campaigns. What remained of our ancestral tribes were mainly deeply traumatised children who were brainwashed into their conqueror's version of their ancestors his-story/her-story so that, through the generations, they would completely lose connection, direct experience, with their ancestral tongues, nature and song/word-of-mouth truths.

Instead of being left to form their unique, original relationships with nature and having access to all of consciousness, the information of sensory- life, always, they were taught to think and feel what other men and women told them to think and feel. For example, they were told that the sensory-life form over there is a yellow flower and it is a daffodil that does this and that. They were provided with a scientific explanation for everything that they would normally learn about through direct, sensory experience that forms our unique dreams and ideas that are our living-present-sense-consciousness.

Coupled with the indoctrination into religions, occults, esoterics and myths that taught them that there was an almighty God/s, Higher Powers/Beings/Forces who is/are responsible for everything and that there was a beginning to sensory life and there will be an end, the tribes connection with who they really were as MAN in the dream of life was almost completely severed and is still almost completely severed with most of us living lives of shattered reality. (Our next post "Separating The Wheat From The Chaff" July/August 2014 goes deeply into the subject of a shattered reality)

The thing to realise here is that the sensory-life-form did not tell us directly that it was yellow and called a daffodil. These ideas were taught to us by other men and women, who were taught by other men and women. So it goes through every aspect of "The System". We, through this shattered reality, act as impostors of everything we talk about, placing our opinions and feelings about it over the natural-sensory-information that the sensory-life-forms have to communicate directly with us. Education (NON-SENSE) disconnects us from sensory life all around us because we are now under the image power of other men and women telling us how to think, feel and act. All of this is covered in far more detail in the articles, videos, debates, etc, found in the sequential order listed below.

We were all dreamt to be unique, original MAN but this cannot happen when we are instructed or educated about anything of nature (including celestial bodies) and MAN. The thought of freedom is not freedom. The thought of consciousness is not consciousness. This is because they are just the ideas of a freedom and of a consciousness that have been put into your head by others. They are not unique and original to you, they are alien as part of an alien invasion, not from outer space but through man-made brain control. The thought of God/spirit is not God/spirit. There is NO DIRECT SENSORY EXPERIENCE with the thought of a God or of a spirit explained to us by another man or woman.

When you go to a supermarket, do you have freedom or choice? Obviously, you just have choice and the same goes for religions, New Age philosophies, and EVERY philosophy, occult, esoteric, of "The System". The whole of "The System" is based on choice. There is no freedom here because you/we have been shut down from our ability to create unique, original lives/dreams that expand and demonstrate our unique, original lives/dreams.

There is no sensory, living life form as a first party in astrology, numerology, etc, coming forward to say that they are astrology and they exist as a sensory-living-life-form. We cannot hear/sense it directly from their tongue. All we can have are men and women coming forward acting as third party impostors to re-present astrology, and through the water of MANS breath, are putting us under the image power of astrology so that we form our fictitious lives in its fictitious image. (The Water Of MANS breath is explained in the Love For Life Sequential Order in great detail)

If you read the story of Alice in Wonderland to an innocent child over and over again, the child will begin to play Alice in Wonderland and act out the story. But no matter how often she may play Alice in Wonderland, Alice will NEVER be present with the presence of life. We will never be able to directly sense her, only the living child who is portraying Alice. Alice does NOT exist in PRESENT-SENSE, only the child (MAN) exists in present-sense. Alice is NON-SENSE - Wonderland is NON-SENSE. Alice needs MANS presence of life to give the illusion that Alice is present amongst the living. Anyone who believes Alice exists is lying.

All of MAN lost in the belief that they are Christians, Buddhists, Muslims, Jews, Conscious, Liberals, Atheists, Lawyers, Judges, Senators, Prime Ministers, Presidents, Popes, Archbishops, Priests, Professors, Educators, Academics, Experts, Scientists, etc, etc, are lying too. This includes all those who claim that money, commerce, law, natural law, God, Aliens, UFO's, etc, etc, exist as sensory-living-life-forms. They are ALL MAN-made con-structs/concepts/inventions/manipulations/psyops programs. None of them have a natural purpose for the dream of life.

"The System" is a system of storytelling that we have been educated (brainwashed) into, just as we educate our children into Alice in Wonderland. This is how we "conquer" our children by getting them to accept the characters of Alice, the Mad Hatter, etc, as real, just as we are educated to believe in law, government, religion, system science, etc, so that we accept the power and control of these fictitious, man-made constructs/concepts over our lives.

However, a, b, c, 1, 2, 3, compass, square, (geometry, etc) can NEVER come forward as sensory, living life forms to back our claims that they exist as first parties. They do not exist. We, MAN, are the only first parties acting as impostors of these third party imaginings. We are lost in the story telling of a make-believe fantasy. This is what has become of all of us in "The System" of Wonderland, each of us being Alice acting with stage and props. We have all been conquered by the education that was forced upon us by the invaders of alien, make-believe realities, all flesh and blood men and women, our living, first party brothers and sisters of MAN who turned against us all.

No MAN is master of another MAN because all men are equal, but we have been persuaded to give up our equality (unique/original co-creators of the dream of life) to accept the fictitious authority of another MAN, acting under costume and title, over our real lives. This is all done through "name", starting with the birth certificate. The "name" is the "mark of the beast", that is "The System". "The System" is a "name" of many, many, many, many "names" all of which was educated (indoctrinated) into you. None of it is real or true. Supermarkets are "names" full of "names", as are the libraries, the universities, the cities, the suburbs, the roads, courts, religions, etc. All of it is fraud. None of it is natural.

These are psyops programs that were started by the invaders who conquered our ancestors so that they could control them and their descendants, us. "The System" is trauma based and everything of "The System" are reactions to trauma as a result of the spells that compel us to perform the invaders instructions of the psyops programs.

E-Motions are these compelling psyops programs set into motion as the effects of E-Go by victims under the image-power of black-magic. The letter E is a code/symbol for ECCLESIASTICAL. Motion (e-motion) and Go (e-go) are the Freemasonic/Satanic black-magic high-priests/priestesses instruction (psyops) programs provided as a choice for their brain-controlled drones, robots, slaves, to follow. E-Motion and E-Go are reactions to trauma. They are trauma based because they are unnatural thoughts and motions that were implanted into us through unnatural means. Refer to the Love For Life Sequential Order for more on all this.

The invaders of MAN first came as missionaries, scientists, botanists, surveyors, geologists, historians, etc, etc, and they came and went for up to 200 years recording and documenting the tongues, customs, ways-of-life, natural environment, etc, etc. When they had finished recording all their his-story/her-story they then sent in their warships and armies to decimate the tribes. This happened all-across-Earth, all over Europe, Americas, Asia-Pacific regions, etc, etc... All the Royal families of Europa are all the "SAME" bloodlines and all are under the power and control of the Freemasonic/Satanic world led by high-priests/priestesses who created ALL religions, philosophies, civilisations, cults, sects, races, occults, esoterics, "system science", etc, known throughout all recorded his-story/her-story.

The British Empire, not the slaves/drones/commoners/serfs, etc, under Britain, is the head, "The Crown" of "The System" of the Western World that conquered almost all of Earth, if not ALL, and it is still in power today. It controls America (war over America's Independence was orchestrated by Freemasons on all sides - all working together behind the scenes) , Russia (Bolshevik revolution), China (it took 300 years through the East India company and the opium wars to conquer China the British Empire is still in power all over Asia), Canada, NZ, Australia, Japan (thanks to 2nd world war), Brazil, Argentina, Africa, India, etc, etc....... all of it.

When they conquered lands such as Australia, the high-priests/priestesses carved up all the lands into parish lands and put a church in every parish and a priest in every church to deal with the sinners (processors of curses that are the lies in/of "name" that have us commit fraud). It does not matter if the church is Protestant, Catholic, etc, they are ALL 100% controlled by the Freemasonic/Satanic world. Can we trust their history after all the effort they put into brainwashing men, women and children everywhere leading to all the invasions and wars that have murdered over 100 billion men, women, children. This includes all the poisons, toxins, chemicals, eugenics, plagues, pestilence, vaccinations, weapons of mass destruction, agriculture, eating animals, dairy products, processed wheat, etc, (highly dangerous to our bodies), etc, etc, etc, they brought with them throughout all their sojourns across Earth under the guise of Ancient Egypt, Greece, Rome, Babylon, Persia, Assyria, China, Aztec, Maya, Inca, Sanskrit, etc, etc.

All these civilisations had read and write alphabet languages, mathematics and geometry/sacred-geometry and they all had royal families divinely appointed by God, high-priest-hoods divinely appointed by God and the rule of law of God divinely appointed by God. WHAT A COINCIDENCE. There is nothing natural about any of this and they all require extensive brainwashing-education to understand the make-believe con-structs they all are. You can change the "name" royal families, high-priest-hoods, God, etc to EU, NATO, WTO, WHO, UN, NWO, America, President, Prime Minister, Director, CEO, Senator, Treasurer, Professor, Academic, Bankster, Emperor, Dictator, Caesar, etc, etc, etc,......... it's all the same non-sense rubbish used under different guises throughout all their systems of civilisations. All are of "The System", their systems designed to maintain power and control over their captive slaves, generation after generation after generation..... this says it all.

In their recorded "ages" of their his-story/her-story, the late 1100's/early 1200's, they started creating English primarily out of hieroglyphics/pictorial-mathematics, Hebrew, Greek, Latin, etc, and they called English THE NEW WORLD LANGUAGE. The letter j/J did not exist until roughly 1520AD. It appears that j/J was first used by Freemason/Satanist Francis Bacon alias William Shakespeare with the word Jew. Words such as Jesus came out of Lesus which came out of Iesus/iesus which came out of Isis = Land Lord/Land-Baron/Pharaoh/etc ruling over serfs/commoners/slaves/etc. NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

English was crafted by French Judeo-Judaic Architects/draftsmen of law, what you refer to as Gods - judges, barristers, lawyers, etc... They (all the chosen ones of their cabal) are the Gods of English, the gods over all the brainwashed/educated slaves. Welcome to Alice in Wonderland Through The Looking Glass - Welcome To Dorothy Down The Yellow Brick Road In The Land Of Oz.

ALL BOOKS ARE ABOMINATIONS - ALL ALPHABET LANGUAGES ARE ABOMINATIONS - ALL NUMERICS ARE ABOMINATIONS - they were all crafted for PSYOPS PROGRAMMING - There is no other purpose for them. While anyone believes in this non-sense they become the abomination too.

Find a book, scroll, papyri, tablet, alpha language, mathematics, geometry/sacred geometry, recorded history, not part of "The System" of those/any recorded "ages". Can you do that? If you can't then this clearly reveals to you DARKNESS VISIBLE, demonstrating just how big this grand deception is and has been.

Every letter (image/picture/sound) of all alphabet languages is an incantation designed to craft "spells" set into motion by fallen/conned-MAN. They only operate as echoes between the ears. Every English letter has a meaning/sound/code/story/picture/symbol (hieroglyphics) not taught to the duped. These codes were provided ONLY for those with the privilege of being initiated into such deeply kept secrets. They taught you to "spell" the echoes to put you under their "spells" (spellings), echoes bouncing too and fro between the ears as apparitions, demons, phantoms, etc, all of which are man-made constructs/concepts = psyops programs.

* Note: copied from here: Another Delusion - Arthur Cristian - Love For Life - 11th June 2014 - http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8526 - "The common law people fight for was the Land Lords, Land Barons, Kings And Queens, High-Priest-Hoods, Aristocracy laws. The serfs and commoners did not exist as REAL MAN on land, they were not even on their radar. They were seen as goi/goy/animals with NO Rights. They had to work very hard to provide a large % of their produce each season or they worked as labourers, etc, on their masters land-holdings or went to war with their land-barons to pay their "dues" as renters = slaves. If they did not meet their masters demands most serfs/commoners were threatened or terribly harmed or booted off their masters lands or even murdered. Those who remained were forced to leave to find another land-lord/owner of the castle to take them in and slave for. Common Law you is in commerce. Common Law was ONLY for the "establishment". The slaves/animals had no laws. They could not read or write to comprehend and have a common law."

When we realise what is really going on, we fully comprehend that everything we see/sense (touch, taste, feel, smell hear, see = direct sensory experience, first party to first party) of nature including celestial bodies is true/real for us but everything explained/instructed/indoctrinated/educated to us by other 3rd parties (men, women, children) about what we directly see/sense is not. It is fraud and are lies. We have all been mis-led.

Direct experience is SENSORY

Non-Direct-Experience is NON-SENSORY = NON-SENSE

The whole of "The System" education is fraud, is all about men, women and children trained to act as impostors of 1st parties. It is all about hijacking/kidnapping the natural characters of first party sensory-life-forms so we can impersonate them, claiming what they say about them is information coming directly from the first party sensory life-forms we re-present when in fact we are lying because we either made it all up as make-believe or are repeaters of make-believe storytelling passed on to them by other 3rd party impostors.

The whole of "The System" and everything of it is FRAUD.

We, MAN, were never meant to be educated (brainwashed) about anything. 3rd party re-presentations are just thoughts/ideas/pictures bouncing to and fro between your/our ears as echoes. They are apparitions, ghosts, phantoms of make-believe = fantasy, illusion and delusion. Make-believe does not exist. Make-believe is NOT proof of fact.

Where can millions of innocent children not exposed to "The System" or exposed to anyone exposed to "The System" go anywhere in nature (including celestial bodies) to learn about a, b, c, 1, 2, 3, compass, square (geometry = measurements, etc) occults, esoterics, government, law, religion, etc, and every other make-believe thought/idea/picture derived from them.......... without someone already got at (brainwashed) having to explain/educate/instruct/re-present it all to them?

Bring forward any Christian, Jew, Buddhist, Muslim, New Ager, atheist, scientist, etc, etc, who is not a slave in "The System". This includes your parents and ancestors going back through all recorded his-story/her-story. You won't be able to because all the Holy Books, Scrolls, Papyri, Tablets and philosophies and ideas of "The System" are a testament to the enslavement of MAN under the image power of the psyops programs of these black magic priests and priestesses. How many thoughts that you think and experience as e-motions are unique and original to you? If you are pure and sincere in your intentions you will see/sense that we are all deeply compromised as educated-(brain-controlled)-slaves.

http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8528

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Arthur Cristian

The common law people fight for was the Land Lords, Land Barons, Kings And Queens, High-Priest-Hoods, Aristocracy laws. The serfs and commoners did not exist as REAL MAN on land, they were not even on their radar. They were seen as goi/goy/animals with NO Rights. They had to work very hard to provide a large % of their produce each season or they worked as labourers, etc, on their masters land-holdings or went to war with their land-barons to pay their "dues" as renters = slaves. If they did not meet their masters demands most serfs/commoners were threatened or terribly harmed or booted off their masters lands or even murdered. Those who remained were forced to leave to find another land-lord/owner of the castle to take them in and slave for. Common Law you is in commerce. Common Law was ONLY for the "establishment". The slaves/animals had no laws. They could not read or write to comprehend and have a common law.

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Arthur Cristian

Rob said: " As you can see, these are not even my opinion, but the recorded principles of the rule of law, established for centuries." SO WHO IS YOUR MASTER ROB????

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Freeman Delusion

Your last dozen comments if repeated in court would be rejected as frivolous.

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Arthur Cristian

The courts you re-present are your masters courts Rob, they are not this MANS courts, they are not this MANS masters. This MAN is not answerable to another MAN, that's unless this MAN has done harm to another MAN, first party to first party. ALL MEN ARE EQUAL. Your courts are COMMERCIAL - this clearly tells you and everyone who your MASTER is Rob.

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Freeman Delusion

The electoral consent of the collective majority is the authority behind law. You are declaring war on the collective.

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Arthur Cristian

Commerce is the processing of a curse Rob. Why do you think your masters after conquering lands like the one we stand on, created parish lands and put a church in every parish and put a priest in every church to deal with all the original sinners??????

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Freeman Delusion

I don't believe in curses, or your other religious

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Arthur Cristian

The electoral, the public, the society, are the commoners, goi/goy, who have NO RIGHTS. they are all deeply brainwashed as educated-slaves working in a system of slavery where men and women are not provided with full disclosure of what is/was really going on. The electorate are deeply brainwashed, mostly medicated in a variety of ways, deeply traumatised,ONLY PROVIDED WITH CHOICES (this ain't freedom) and work their arses off to maintain leases and mortgages to their masters for a whole life-time.

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Earthica-Star Soveran

the real delusion here is clearly the 'collective' mind... Arther.. you're not dealing with an articulate 'man'... no one takes this clown seriously

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Arthur Cristian

We have no religion to follow. All lies are curses and all liars are processing curses. Go and ask any judge/priest why he/she wears black, why they conduct a range of rituals before during and after court, and sermons, why one of their books is called "BLACKS" Law (as in Black-Magic) Dictionary, etc......

You want to do your homework because multi millions of people are aware about this and particularly Freemasons/Satanists. Ask most traditional tribal elders who have been provided with the "knowledge" of curses passed down through their ancestors to them. Go and read your Bible which Common Law is deeply rooted in, as it also talks about curses/lies too. Go and look into Haitian Voodoo witch doctors and ask why they used ceramic jars sitting on shelves to catch curses coming back to them. This is just a brief example of multi hundreds found on the internet.

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Freeman Delusion

As I said, I'm not discussing political philosophy, religion or hypothetical suggestions on how society should function according to the many various opinions on the planet.

I'm discussing LAW, not philosophy. Law is not ever as broad in description, it is well established and has very clear and express terms and proceedures.

You have only made assertions based in your own opinions and not a single valid piece of law.

Do you have any valid precedents or rulings that dispute the principle that parliament is not the supreme law-making body, and that it's legislature is a fundamental provision of the law of the land..??

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Arthur Cristian

Your common law and its courts and magistrate and politics etc, is that, is this political philosophy, is religious based, that you are on about - WHAT A F............ HYPOCRITE. LOLLLLLLLLLLL

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Arthur Cristian

Go and get F......... ROB - you are presently showing up as one nasty piece of shit. Whatever credibility you have left is being destroyed left, right and center.

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Freeman Delusion

Not in Australia. Well don't have a defender of the faith, and our common law is not the common law of England

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Arthur Cristian

WHAT A F.......... HYPOCRITE - IS EVERYONE NOTICING THIS????

"Not in Australia. Well don't have a defender of the faith, and our common law is not the common law of England" = political philosophy - religious based. LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

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Arthur Cristian

Rob said: "The electoral consent of the collective majority is the authority behind law. You are declaring war on the collective."

You are addressing deeply traumatised, deeply medicated f........ up men and women and children for a whole life-time. all of them in and of 3rd party to a "name". Interesting how we still receive around 1000 emails per day many coming from these "electorates" who are deeply suffering and want out.

The war was already declared against all these men, women and children forced to undergo intensive brainwashing to become educated slaves, to be deeply traumatised, deeply medicated, deeply f....... up in so many ways, and continue being treated as shit with NO RIGHTS.

This MAN has no need to declare war - those who seek true freedom flock to us to learn what we have learnt. What do you think we have been doing all these years with Love For Life ?????

We stand/live for a mass exodus out of "The System" of harm-doing forevermore. Our determination, our dreams are in plain sight. We provide full-disclosure.

And you want this scam to continue - well you can go and get f.........

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Freeman Delusion

You have proven nothing yet Arthur, just your ability to post copious amounts of unintelligible bullshit without substantuation, just as this post described. So I take it you will not dare to accept my challenge and prove your claims where it really means something... in a court, with a magistrate..??

Didn't think so. Talk tough but no balls.

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Freeman Delusion

Can your kids read books, or is that too evil for you. I feel sorry for them, DoCS probably does too

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Arthur Cristian

You need to create a fabricated criminal offense to draw this MANS physical body into your masters courts. Your courts are not this MANS courts, they are not this MANS masters. Your offer for this MAN to acquiesce to a slave status under a master is not accepted.

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Arthur Cristian

Rob, OK now this MAN will focus on you processing curses of your "own making. You want to now make things personal just reveals the low life p.... you really are. This also clearly reveals you have NOTHING to back your claims, all you've got is belief, faith and and associated opinion which are not proof of fact.

For your interest, we've allowed the children to participate in "The System" so they don't experience e-motional separation, isolation, from those around them, instead to embrace them with their love and walk-the-talk. etc, All four daughters are at the top of the region in most areas of "system classification", in fact they are loved deeply by many, many, many teachers, headmasters, parents, community people, etc, etc, Even with everything we've done to expose corruption inside the courts, police force,, etc, many come from inside these worlds from afar and closer to home to support us and what we are doing but you are not to know this hey.

Years ago, we outsmarted whatever bullshit low-life f............ like you can dredge up. DOCS won't come near us, even the local politicians admire our children while keeping a healthy distance from us, understandably so.

And our children are consistently deprogrammed so they can see/sense all sides of things and the eldest ones are now seeing/sensing what we've been-seeing/sensing for many years now.

This MAN knows where you live, what is your real name, and bit about your background. You are now in this MANS sights. You are now processing the curses of your "own" making Rob.

You re-present an immense danger to a lot of people and if you are not stopped you will cause phenomenal damage upon many innocent and naive men and women who have been deceived/conned by this blatant deception of yours, men and women who have not been provided with full-disclosure as to your true ulterior motives, cul-de-sac intentions (massive red herring distraction) and who your real master is. The fact that you also came out of the routing out of OPPT with us and others makes it even more serious with us to stop you dead in your tracks because you now have a "looking good" fabricated front to deceive others with. As we often say... the greatest lie and liar is the one closest to the truth, they cause the greatest damage of all.

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Earthica-Star Soveran

this alleged 'collective' sounds like the only religion being preached here

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Freeman Delusion

I will make legal record that you have made threats against me, but I don't give your so-called "curses" any credence. You have no idea where I live, and neither does anyone else lol.

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Arthur Cristian

Exactly, and he has revealed his nasty nasty real side by bringing our children into this and DOCS. We know where he lives. .

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Arthur Cristian

The ONLY threat has come from attacking our children. That is as far as it goes Rob. You are dealing with someone who backs everything he says. Now you are processing the curse. This MAN has you in his sights.

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Freeman Delusion

Ooohh, Hit a soft spot didn't Iol. DoCS must freak you out lol

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Arthur Cristian

NO, you just revealed your true colours. THANK YOU.

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Earthica-Star Soveran

what a joke... this FD is just a provacateer.. strawman arguments and blanket statements, ad hominem attacks, claims of some mob law... bwahahaha!! .. i see where he gets the 'delusion' part of his/(or her) name Just now

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Freeman Delusion

"Attacking" lol, you're quote insane eh. I said "Can your kids read books, or is that too evil for you. I feel sorry for them, DoCS probably does too."

Bahahahaha you're f......... crazy, and your baseless threats mean nothing to me

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Arthur Cristian

They are your implied threats to our children - only low life scum would even consider saying something like this. Good hearted people just don't do this. What was the purpose of even saying it - it was blatant making things personal. Would not matter what you say now - the fact is you did say it. That is enough for us. You really are a low life p......

These kind of discussions/debates helps many many people to learn how to rout out lies and liars and the psyops programs they peddle. Is why we said "Thank You.

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Rob, then took the whole thread down and blocked us completely and removed his FB friendship with us. LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

The Cristian Family November 2006

Facebook Discussion With
Doolin Dalton

As part of the continuation about the exposure of Rob, Freeman Delusion, http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8526 and https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203913561027483 and https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203918263265036 - Doolin Dalton started a conversation with us in the two Facebook Love For Life Group Walls. Doolin Dalton https://www.facebook.com/jack.doolan3 said: This is from "Love For Life Legal Disclaimer"...

"The Web Site Information has been prepared to provide general information only and is not intended to constitute or be construed as providing substantive professional advice or opinion on any facts or circumstances. Transmission of the information is not intended to create, nor does its receipt give rise to, a professional-client relationship between 'Love for Life' and the receiver.

The impact of the law, policy and/or procedure for any particular situation depends on a variety of factors; therefore, readers should not act upon any Web Site Information without seeking professional advice. 'Love for Life' is not responsible for any action taken in reliance on any Web Site Information herein.

'Love for Life' is not responsible for any action you or others take which relies on information in this website and/or responses thereto. 'Love for Life' disclaim all responsibility and liability for loss or damage suffered by any person relying, directly or indirectly, on the Web Site Information, including in relation to negligence or any other default."

So Arthur...

If we take the information on this site to a legal professional before trying it out, (as in the disclaimer above) and the learned professional dismisses them as fabrications, (probably using the exact same long-established principles that The Freeman Delusion has explained) what exactly is the situation we then find ourselves in at that point..??

If we were to proceed regardless, wouldn't we in fact be wholly relying on blind faith in your theories of law, and not any established fact of law..??

So anyway, regardless of inconvenient facts and established principles of law, we use the so-called "information" on this site, and FAIL badly in court. (due to it being disinformation as the legal professional said)

We lose property, lose money, go to jail, get committed into a mental health facility, or lose the kids to the state, all while you sit back and laugh at our naivity without suffering any liability at all (as in the disclaimer above) for the deception you created, or the harm it done to the decieved and their loved ones.

Sounds like a really intelligent thing to do...

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Love For Life Kindoms - The Co-Creation Of Do No Harm Communities replied....

Hi Doolin, this is Arthur here. The website is owned by Fiona Cristian and as she is in "The System" the December 2006 disclaimer is there to protect her and the webmaster from any despicable nefarious tactics brought into action by those who dream to destroy the website, who want it out of the way. The disclaimer is not there to protect Arthur, so you are dealing with Arthur here, first party to first party.

The intentions of what we share are in plain sight, are factual, are logical, are truth. If you think that what Arthur is saying in this post about Rob, is wrong, are lies, etc. then please share the incontrovertible evidence of said facts for all to see.

Note also, that there over 11,000+ individual articles, pdf's, podcasts, research documents, booklets, etc, etc, found in amongst the 8,500+ threads/posts that are mostly not our work and a fair-bit that we do not even agree with but we leave it all up in the interests of freedom of thought, speech and opinion.

We have made this point many times over the years.

We make a wide range of information available for those interested to take what they like and do with it what they will.

There are no victims here, unless someone is not taking full responsibility for their thoughts, feelings and actions.

We allow anyone to post on the Love For Life Website, having only taken down a handful of posts in the last 9 years because they were links to advertisements, just foul-mouthed rants, or extremely nasty posts about what they would like to do to Fiona and the children, with no relevance to topic.

We do not support censorship.

The Love For Website is for grown - ups who are not looking for someone to point the finger at if they make bad choices!

In 2009, the NSW Jewish Board of Deputies tried to take the website down, claiming that it was anti-Semitic, but they gave up after a few hours when they realised that they were free to post their views and that we would leave up anything they cared to mention, as can the Queen, the Pope, anyone. Plus, in a matter of hours when word got out, they were inundated by thousands and thousands of people from all over Earth, complaining.

Commented on by Arthur Cristian · Yesterday at 08:21

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Doolin Dalton

Firstly, you didn't make any mention to WHAT exactly in particular that he said, that you claim to be a LIE.

I have talked to several "legal professionals" and according to all REAL (and fully liable) advice, the court rulings he quoted DO stand as valid law in Australia, as they have precedence over any cases questioning the supremacy of parliament, as you are promoting that people do.

So as he said, do YOU actually have any EVIDENCE in documented case law, that would possibly overrule the precedence set?

Secondly, if you do not, HOW exactly can you falsely claim he is lieing, when established case law actually DOES confirm the supremacy of parliament, while you only present your "opinion", with limited liability?

Thirdly, reading through the thread, it appears YOU are the only one HEATED, the only one SWEARING, and the only one making THREATS toward anyone. I'm actually surprised you would reprint this, since it only shows YOUR true colours more than anything he said or mentioned.

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Love For Life Kindoms - The Co-Creation Of Do No Harm Communities

The law itself is the issue - the law is a fraud, is a lie. Legal professionals are all liars. None of the law exists, it's all in 3rd party. There is no first party.

Fictions are not proof of fact which renders the law invalid.

a, b, c, 1, 2, 3, compass, square do not exist and everything that is derived from them do not exist either, are all make believe.

All legal professionals act as impostors of a, b, c, 1, 2, 3, compass, square and this includes every other construct/concept derived from alphabets, mathematics and geometry.

Until you can incontrovertibly prove that a, b, c, 1, 2, 3, compass, square exist as sensory living 1st parties everything that is derived from them (constructs/concepts) is fraud and are lies too, and therefore is invalid.

The law is derived from a, b, c, 1, 2, 3, compass, square, which clearly reveals that the law is a fraud and is a lie too and therefore is invalid.

Legal professionals act as impostors of a, b, c, 1, 2, 3, compass and square.

No truth can be derived from a lie. THIS IS FACT.

Nothing valid, of substance, is derived from make-believe, from what does not exist and has never existed.

Belief in make-believe is not proof of fact.

Re-presenting "Intellectual Property" is the practise of belief.

This MAN works with FULL-RESPONSIBILITY for everything this MAN thinks, feels and does. What about you?

This MAN works with FULL-DISCLOSURE. What about you?

This MAN refuses to support, cause and condone fraud = DOING HARM.

This MAN works ONLY with truth. What about you?

To lie or support lies is to DO HARM.

Do you wish to harm another MAN by lying to them and enforcing lies?

What do you think has happened to everyone who has been educated with lies?

And were they all provided with idiot-friendly full-disclosure about the lies they were being educated/brainwashed/indoctrinated into and what about the fraud?

All lies are curses and all liars are processing curses.

Australia/Commonwealth Of Australia is a lie, is fraud.
Legal Professionals is a lie, is fraud.
Common Law is a lie, is fraud.
Court, the bar, the rule of law are lies and are fraud.
Parliament is a lie, is fraud.
Court Rulings are lies and are derived from fraud.

Will copy a few recent posts below to expand on this further.

Commented on by Arthur Cristian · 18 hours ago

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Love For Life Kindoms - The Co-Creation Of Do No Harm Communities

A world of words is a world of lies - We use our senses to communicate - all of nature does this which clearly tells you/us that senses is our true tongue. All words are lies, all read and write alphabet languages, mathematics and geometry/sacred geometry are abominations. They are always in and of 3rd party.

While a "dog" with a few sniffs can gain a vast amount of information about the MAN through direct-experience, first party to first party, the dumbed-down brainwashed MAN lost to (indoctrinated by) words is thinking words "brown-dog". This shows you the vast depth of our fallen state. Argue for your limitations and sure enough they are yours. We've provided sufficient links to help you fully comprehend the big-picture.

Does a child first have to believe in a tree before the child can sense the tree???? Of course not, the presence of the tree (LIFE) is already present to the child and the presence of the child (LIFE) is already present to the tree - NO EDUCATION/INSTRUCTION/BRAINWASHING required. But when we educate our children they get lost in words which completely disconnects them from using their senses to have a direct experience with the tree.

If we say to a child that that sensory life-form over there is a daffodil and is yellow and is part of this and that and does this and that, etc, etc, and the innocent child trusts us, looks up to us, and we have not provided the child with full-disclosure, the next "time" a brainwashed child comes across this sensory-life-form, the child's head will be spinning with all the "words" we filled the child's head up with, words, words, words, words (spells) bouncing to and fro between the ears (so to speak).

The child is now using words to completely cover (superimpose) the sensory-life-form in darkness.

Imagine taking a potato sack to completely shroud/hood the life-form in darkness. This is what the child is doing. The child can no longer sense the sensory information coming directly from a sensory-life-form willingly sharing its purpose for the dream of life with the child.

The words spinning in the child's head has become a SHATTERED REALITY.

The child is now under the image power of another MAN who was acting as an impostor of the sensory-life-form. The fallen-MAN hijacked the natural character and attributes of the sensory life-form. This is fraud, is lying and is completely destroying the child.

The child cannot create unique original thoughts/dreams to create the unique original MAN he/she was supposed to be creating. Now the child is just a clone, a drone, a robot, a slave, under the control of the performance of the image power of another MAN who imposed his will over the child.

The child has now been hijacked from direct experience.

The MAN now controls the child as his/her slave.

In "The System" with its education, instruction, explanation, imagine your whole life being this process to produce a shattered reality for you so that you can be a slave used and abused by your slave master/s in whatever way they want you to perform/behave/act. Your slave master now compels you to act (the pull of e-motions/reaction to trauma that are the words of a shattered reality) exactly how your slave master wants you to act.

If you have been educated you have already been destroyed of who you really are and what you are really part of.

Best to give up all your brainwashing first before beginning to attempt the sensory communication of truth.

A world of words is a world of lies.

A world of words is a shattered reality.

We were never meant to be educated by anyone.

Refer to the Sequential Order as it provides the big-picture we see/sense. You can also scroll down Arthur's Facebook wall to explore the past few months of this type of insightful work which will be added to the Sequential Order in the near future. All updates to the Sequential Order can be found on the home page of the Love For Life website www.loveforlife.com.au - scroll down to find it.

All the best to you and your family.

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

Commented on by Arthur Cristian · 18 hours ago

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Love For Life Kindoms - The Co-Creation Of Do No Harm Communities

To us, God/Allah means FULL-RESPONSIBILITY for everything we think, feel and do.. Passing the buck to a God/Allah is giving up taking full-responsibility for everything we think, feel and do. It is very simple. If everyone took full-responsibility for everything we think, feel and do we would be conscious of all forms of harm-doing/lying and not be party to setting harm/lies into motion. All else is bullshit, this includes all forms of excuses and justifications for perpetuating lies/harm-doing = religion = "The System" of lying/doing-harm.

For example: the thought of a God/Allah is not God/Allah - the thought of a God/Allah is just an idea made up by another man/woman telling you how to think, feel and act about a God/Allah. This is fact and is lying/doing-harm.

Whoever is educating innocent children into the thoughts of a God/Allah is not taking full-responsibility for lying/doing-harm to them.

Where can millions of innocent children not exposed to a thought of a God/Allah (not exposed to "The System" of a God/Allah - that is what religion is = "The System" of justifications and excuses) go anywhere in nature (including observing celestial bodies) to learn about a thought of a God/Allah without another MAN (men/women/children) already got at by "The System" of lying/doing-harm having to explain/educate/instruct them into a thought of a God/Allah??????

If anyone makes the claim of a God or Allah they need to bring forward the first party God/Allah to back their claims so that everyone can have a direct experience with God/Allah, first party to first party with all senses activated = lets hear it directly from the tongue of God/Allah and not from a 3rd party re-presentative of a God/Allah acting as an impostor of a God/Allah = lying/doing-harm = FRAUD.

Anyone who is really waking up can see/sense the depth of lying/doing-harm another man/woman will undertake to keep the lie/harm perpetuating. All forms of excuses, justifications, etc, DOES NOTHING to dispel the fact that they are lying and are blatantly doing harm to innocent children. They are not taking full-responsibility for what they think, feel and do. So unless you/they can bring forward the first party God/Allah to back your claims, we say, STOP LYING, STOP DOING HARM to innocent children = stop passing the buck, stop participating in "The System" of lying and harm-doing = religion = faith or belief or associated opinion in a religion rooted in the thought of a God/Allah.

How many religious believers are providing full-disclosure to innocent children about their lies/harm-doing while indoctrinating them into "The System" of their beLIEfS??????

Are they taking FULL-RESPONSIBILITY????????? NO-WAY.

Commented on by Arthur Cristian · 18 hours ago

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Love For Life Kindoms - The Co-Creation Of Do No Harm Communities

As you say on your Facebook Wall: "“Everything the state says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.” ~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~ "

Commented on by Arthur Cristian · 18 hours ago

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Doolin Dalton

Yes, Nietzsche had some great philosophies, it's a pity his opinion didn't suddenly become valid law just because he thunk it.

Well after that lengthy diatribe of your OPINION or "political philosophy" (as Freeman Delusion called it) it seems pretty obvious that you have absolutely NO LEGAL EVIDENCE of anything you are claiming, that would be applicable in defence of anything in any legitimate court of law.

These things you say are irrelevant to any charge. It is clearly insufficient on its face value, and does not controvert the material points of the opposite pleading, so is presumably interposed for mere purposes of delay or to embarrass the plaintiff.

As a defence it is clearly untenable, and its insufficiency is so manifest upon a bare inspection of the pleadings, that its character may be determined without argument or research.

The terms “frivolous” and “sham" as applied to pleadings, do not mean the same thing. A sham plea is good on its face, but false in fact; it may, to all appearances, constitute a perfect defense, but is a pretence because false and because not pleaded in good faith.

A frivolous plea may be perfectly true in its allegations, but yet is liable to be stricken out because totally insufficient in substance.

13 hours ago

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Love For Life Kindoms - The Co-Creation Of Do No Harm Communities

If you want to play their "name" game then you agree to be in their world and of their world of "names" (words/letters/numbers).

This MAN refuses to be of their world. Is why this MAN dropped "name". When you no longer pretend to exist in and of their world they have no power over you, their rule of law is holden for nought.

Many are really waking up to this.

When you realise there is poison buried in the regular food and liquids you eat and drink, do you continue eating and drinking the poisons or do you never touch it again?

We provide full-disclosure of all the lies of "The System". This helps others to navigate away from the lies so they no longer can be harmed by them. The Rule of Law and everything else of "The System" re-presents immense harm to MAN. This is FACT.

a. b. c, 1, 2, 3, compass, square, and everything derived of/from them have no life-force-energy, no will-power to create and set their own images into motion. They are unable to walk, talk, think, feel, poo, wee, negotiate, contract, contemplate, co-create, etc, because they are dead-corpses that require fallen-MAN to act as a 3rd party re-presentative (fraudsters/impostors) of these fictitious con-structs/con-cepts.

ONLY MAN can move paper from desk to desk to desk to desk to filing cabinet and this includes whatever is scribbled, marked, etched, encoded on paper too.

We are dealing with the FORCE of MAN and NOTHING ELSE.

There is no natural-FORCE behind constitution, corporation, courts, parliaments, statutes, precedence, religions, money, commerce, countries, nations, states, etc, etc.... NOTHING.

What we are dealing with here are man-made lies, illusions, delusions, fantasies, etc....

All men are equal - no MAN is master of another MAN.

Why would any "sane" MAN want to give up that "natural living-creator's right"/"standing" of FULL-RESPONSIBILITY for everything MAN thinks, feels, does, intends, dreams, etc, by falling under/into limited-responsibility/liability which happens when a fallen/conned-MAN starts re-presenting the fiction of a "name" as part of a make-believe world of "names" that do not exist, permitting the "game" of "name" being played by other men and women hiding behind fictitious costumes and titles of "names", thus providing them the make-believe power over a fallen-MAN duped into believing in a world of lies/"names"?

MAN is not answerable to another MAN unless a MAN has physically done harm to another MAN and we are not talking about the feigning of make-believe (pretending) e-motions of harm.

Rob (Freeman Delusion) and you are both offering the temptation for this MAN to be harmed by playing the "name" game.

Is this what you are all about?

Are you a harm-doer?

If this MAN ever enters their "courts", this MAN enters for the liars to be "caught" in their lies forcing them and their loved ones, beneficiaries, associates, to process the curses of their "own" making with no escape or respite. Nothing else is entertained by this MAN. This is all explained in great detail in the posts found in the Sequential Order, scroll down here to find them www.loveforlife.com.au

To rehash, these comments of yours.........

"Well after that lengthy diatribe of your OPINION or "political philosophy" (as Freeman Delusion called it) it seems pretty obvious that you have absolutely NO LEGAL EVIDENCE of anything you are claiming, that would be applicable in defence of anything in any legitimate court of law. These things you say are irrelevant to any charge. It is clearly insufficient on its face value, and does not controvert the material points of the opposite pleading, so is presumably interposed for mere purposes of delay or to embarrass the plaintiff. As a defence it is clearly untenable, and its insufficiency is so manifest upon a bare inspection of the pleadings, that its character may be determined without argument or research. The terms “frivolous” and “sham" as applied to pleadings, do not mean the same thing. A sham plea is good on its face, but false in fact; it may, to all appearances, constitute a perfect defense, but is a pretence because false and because not pleaded in good faith. A frivolous plea may be perfectly true in its allegations, but yet is liable to be stricken out because totally insufficient in substance."

They have no relevance to a living MAN, NOTHING, only a duped fallen-MAN would entertain such despicable lies and be caught as a liar. You have nothing on offer here bar HARM.

Commented on by Arthur Cristian · about an hour ago

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Doolin Dalton

They say ignorance of the law is no excuse, but the anti-interlectual reasoning behind your denial of it's existence is quite ridiculous Arthur.

Do you really think any of these "frivilous" assertions will be sustained by any court, when the court is legally obliged to reject them as such, by the nations supreme law-making body? It's legal suicide, and will most definately not affect the validity or legitimacy of legislative powers in any way. It's simply something no magistrate has the authority to do, by the very principles the court is bound to uphold...

"The law of the land depends not upon the arbitrary will of any judge; but is permanent, fixed, and unchangeable, unless by authority of parliament.... Not only the substantial part, or judicial decisions, of the law, but also the formal part, or method of proceeding, cannot be altered but by parliament." ~ William Blackstone (1760 U.K.)

"Are we to act as regents over what is done in Parliament with the consent of the Queen, Lords and commons? I deny that any such authority exists. If an Act of Parliament has been obtained improperly, it is for the legislature to correct it by repealing it: but, so long as it exists as law, the courts are bound to obey it." ~ Magistrate Willes, Lee v Bude & Torrington Junction Rly Co (1871-U.K.)

British constitutional lawyer Albert Venn Dicey established that a parliament can enact legislation dealing with any subject, and that the legislation of the parliament is superior to the jurisdiction of the courts. Parliament has, he confirmed, “the right to make or unmake any law whatever; and, further, that no person or body is recognized by the law of England as having a right to override or set aside the legislation of parliament."

Sir Ivor Jennings took the view that a parliament exists only in theory, because it “is a legal fiction and legal fiction can assume anything”. To demonstrate this, he once stated... "If Parliament enacted that all men should be women, they would be women so far as the law is concerned”.

"If the purpose for which a statute may be used is an invalid purpose, then such remedy as there may be must be directed to dealing with that purpose and not to invalidating the statute itself. What the statute itself enacts cannot be unlawful, because what the statute says and provides is itself the law, and the highest from of law that is known to this country. It is the law which prevails over every other form of law, and it is not for the court to say that a parliamentary enactment, the highest law in this country, is illegal." ~ Magistrate Thomas, Cheney v Conn [Inspector of Taxes] (1968 -U.K.) Chancery Division

"The idea that a court is entitled to disregard a provision in an Act of Parliament on any ground must seem strange and startling to anyone with any knowledge of the history and law of our constitution." ~ Pickin v British Railways Board (1974 -U.K.) HL

"There is little point in searching for additional expositions of, or foundations for, the principle that courts will presume that legislation does not overrule the common law in the absence of clear and express terms, given that it is so clear and that it was not really contested by the State. In English legal history the principle can be traced back for at least 300 years and probably further. It has been applied countless times in Australia, including in the construction of legislation governing privately owned minerals and the public acquisition thereof.

Secondly, the applicant invoked Sir Owen Dixon's reminder that the principle of parliamentary supremacy is itself a doctrine of the common law.

Members of a legislature, such as the Parliament of New South Wales, are regularly answerable to the electors, whereas judges in Australia are not. Judges recognise that, whatever the deficiencies of electoral democracy, the necessity of answering to the electorate at regular intervals has a tendency to curb legislative excesses. Many judges reject "the role of a Platonic guardian" and are "pleased to live in a society that does not thrust [that role] upon [them]". Most judges in Australia would probably share this relatively modest conception of their role. In this conception, the duty of obedience to a law made by a Parliament of a State derives from the observance of parliamentary procedures and the conformity of the resulting law with the State and federal Constitutions. It does not rest upon judicial pronouncements to accord, or withhold, recognition of the law in question by reference to the judge's own notions of fundamental rights, apart from those constitutionally established."

Durham Holdings Pty Ltd v New South Wales (1999) 47 NSWLR 340

"However, any presumption, rule of construction, or imputed intention is subject to valid legislative provisions to the contrary. Judges may decline to read such legislation as having such an effect. The more peremptory, arbitrary and unjust the provisions, the less willing a judge may be to impute such a purpose to an Australian lawmaker. But a point will be reached where the law in question is "clear and unambiguous". Various other verbal formulae are used in the reasoning of this Court to describe that point. They are collected by the Court of Appeal in its reasons. Once that point is reached, subject to any constitutional invalidity, the judge has no authority to ignore or frustrate the commands of the lawmaker. To do so would be to abuse judicial power, not to exercise it.

The applicant was unable to point to any judicial pronouncements, let alone a decided case, which indicated, at any time, that any such principle existed in the common law of England, or of the colonies of Australasia, or of Australia. It advocated the development of the common law, by the recognition of such a principle for the first time in this case." ~ Union Steamship Co of Australia Pty Ltd v King (1988) 166 CLR 1

I've been on the run from Queensland Police for nearly a decade once, hiding in the bush, using aliases and false identification like stolen centrelink cards etc, all because my name was subject to 6 first-instant warrants and 6 commitment warrants, which includes the manditory refusal of bail for failure to appear.

Several searches of remote mountainous forests in NSW were also abandoned after it was declared the area was too inaccessable and rugged to continue.

Yeah I spent many nights in sub-zero temperatures shivering under an oilskin with my horse, too scared to even light a smoke, let alone a fire to keep warm. There was times I knew for certain I would rather shoot and bury any potential witness of my whereabouts than risk being found.

Mates would drop off groceries and stuff to a meeting point in exchange for weed, as well as picking up bulk hand-split firewood or quad fenceposts, and delivering them to a few trusted local farmers, which eliminated the risk of going near a built-up area and recognised.

There was a few covert attempts at arrest, including police acting as council or road workers etc, but when some strange bloke started cutting down a tree on a friends remote property in the middle of the night, I pulled up to investigate and they just jumped on me.

They didn't need "name" lol, they knew exactly who I was, proceeded on that assumption alone, and left the rest for a court to determine.

Being on the run is not fun at all, it's actually a very lonely existence. But if you cannot use your name, this is the type of reality you will have to get used to. The only real difference between the way I lived, and your philosophy, is that I protected my privacy and freewill with firearms and strategy, not DENIAL that the fifty police searching for me in the valley below have any authority to act on me. That's clearly as delusional as it sounds lol...

"The average man is not actually happy when free; he is uncomfortable, a bit alarmed, and intolerably lonely. Liberty is not a thing for the great masses of men. It is the exclusive possession of a small and disreputable minority, like knowledge, courage and honor. It takes a special sort of man to understand and enjoy liberty –and he is usually an outlaw in democratic societies." ~ Henry Louis Mencken (1880-1956)

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You are not this MAN - this MAN has no need to run from them whatsoever. They can come anytime they want but those higher up in the Freemasonic/Satanic world know that at least 20 families in law have already been completely destroyed and 17 paedophiles have committed suicide, all of them after this MAN visited them and made/forced them to take full-responsibility for processing the curses of their "own" making.

Your "system" life is NOT this MANS life, nor do we advocate going on the run, in the bush, or having firearms or living in secrecy, scared to show your face. Everything we do is out in the open for all to see and always will be. This is far better protection than hiding in the bush. You obviously have not read "The Steps to Kindom" remedy we offer which is all about communities standing up against the force of "The System" together, and yes, it will take those with courage, honour and commitment to freedom, to stepping out of their system lives and taking full responsibility for their lives. There is no room for "The System" in people such as this and no room for people like this in "The System". But those brave enough will be able to create the havens for others to come to when they too feel the yearning to break free of their system ties, or when life under "The System" becomes totally unmanageable, as it is fast doing.

We tell those still living in "The System" to keep their heads down and not to invite the FORCE of "The System" into their lives unless they are prepared to deal with the consequences of fines, imprisonment, etc, or unless they are prepared to drop ALL privileges and benefits of "The System" as Arthur has done and even then, to be responsible not to cause harm to others, because taking full responsibility for their lives means being fully responsible for everything they think, feel and do.

Everything you have written here has nothing to do with this MAN. Why would your experience have anything to do with Arthur? He has not been on the run nor would he go on the run. The way this MAN thinks and the way this MAN sets his dreams into motion is not the same as the way you think and set your dreams into motion. If the FORCE of "The System" comes upon him to do him harm, so be it. There is nothing this MAN can do to stop them if they are determined to do harm to his body. BUT, they will be processing the curse because this MAN will not accept their curses/offers/claims.

The accusations you make have nothing to do with this MAN. It is as if you have come down from Mars and you are now saying that this MAN is answerable to the laws of Mars! You don't seem to get that the laws of "The System" can only be enforced while we bow down to them and those who enforce them. The more of us sever our reliance on "The System" and turn away from it, the more their illusions of power recede.

When you were on the run, you were still doing everything in the "name" and you didn't know who you really are, just as you still don't because you are still worshipping their laws and giving them your power. The warrants against you were in the "name", you fought in the "name", survived as the "name" and rejoined system life as the "name" and paid the price in the "name".

This MAN has not done any of this.

You are trying to drag the life of this MAN into your conflict when the life of this MAN has nothing to do with your storytelling and your conflict. This is slander and fraud. Isn't that breaking the law that you worship?

This shows that you are a hypocrite; on one hand you enshrine the rule of law and on the other hand you break these rules of law by committing slander, fraud amongst a few other crimes upheld in and of your "world". LOLLLLLLLLL

This saying is relevant to you - is not relevant to this MAN:

This MAN lives/stands for NO SYSTEM, no man-made system. You live for the continuation of a man-made system.

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Doolin Dalton

I worship no law, and have never purported to. I just know how it operates, and it's fundamental principles. If you haven't figured it out yet, I'm a career criminal and make no pretences about it. I fully admit that I'm totally unashamably, a criminal according to the law, and I care not what your opinions are on that level, nor what the law decrees I can or can't do.

What I don't do, is live in baseless denial of reality as you do, with a delusional point of view that it doesn't exist. Even most of the blokes I've met in jail claim they are completely innocent, but at least have the cognative coherence and direct experience on how REAL the law, and the actions of those that enforce it, really are.

Ever been to jail Arthur? Ever been maced or tasered? How about the backroom rubber mat or phonebook floggings? Have you even been in a courtroom, let alone been in any way successful in legal matters?

Or are you just a keyboard warrior making wild unsubstantuated claims and spouting a personal philosophical ideology that you can't ever prove to be a valid FACT, unless you follow the normal appeal process to Supreme Court and if successful, to the High Court of Australia, and establish a precedent?

Science, they say, is "the study of observable facts" and law is quite the same. The law is not based on random personal opinions. It is made up of unalienable, undeniable findings and principles which have been established over centuries of discernment, such as the principles of due process and the recognition of rights. It is these observable facts that constitute the law, and not your unproven, unobservable personal opinions, nor on the other hand, a magistrates own personal opinions and philosophies. They simply DO NOT hold that authority, and despite your strong delusion, neither do you.

As you have yet to provide me with a single valid piece of substantuated, observable and REAL EVIDENCE to prove your wild claims and assertions, these imaginings you spout remain an unsubstantuated theory based in a mere belief, and as such can not be even remotely considered to have anything to do with law.

Arthur, you are appearing as obstinant as a fool that cannot swim, yet claims he can jump into a deep lake, relying wholly on the premise that his legs will become telescopic and extend all the way to the lake floor. He spouts this delusional assumption to everybody, tells everybody it is undeniable "truth", encourages everybody to try it, yet will never actually even go near the lake himself, let alone demonstrate that it is an observable fact.

Your credibility is sadly lacking any evidence, all you have is your own limited, self-absorbed opinions. Why not take Freeman Delusion's challenge for you to prove your unproven theories, and be charged for even a very minor offence (that is of no "harm" and has no injured party according to your perceptions) and PROVE YOUR BUM DRIBBLE to be effective, let alone have any basis in law?

Freeman Delusion has already done so, and was honest enough to stop perpetuating these myths at that point. I'd say therefore, that your refusal to do so makes you a "FUCKING GUTLESS WIMP" and not himself as you have stated.

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Everything we have to say has already been said and all your questions have been answered very clearly in this thread, including everything else you have written in your last post. You have not said anything new. There is nothing more to say. All else about our backgrounds, etc, can be found by scrolling down the Love For Life.com.au website. To continue on with this discussion with you is to support your conflict and be part of it. We are not interested. We know who we really are and what we are doing about it. We are not answerable to you, as you are not answerable to us. We wish you all the best in a do no harm outcome of your life in whatever is still to be resolved for you.

Also, we are not interested in dealing with 3rd party strangers who only operate in and of 3rd party, men and women of the courts being an example of many such blatant-circumstances in "The System". We deal with ONLY first parties. We refuse to deal with 3rd parties. Your offer and Robs offer is to deal ONLY with 3rd parties, not with first parties.

The challenge to a debate with Rob was in first party to first party, not in and of 3rd party. Rob backed off. Says everything. Same with you, all you can offer here in this thread is your worship in and of 3rd party re-presentation/storytelling/belief systems yet belief is not proof of fact. And here you are continuing the performance in and of 3rd party. You refuse to come forward as a first party.

Though you still hide behind a FB mask, we have had a 1st party to first party debate/discussion here with you but you continue to default to 3rd party and in doing so have not been able to find fault with everything we have raised here in this thread and yet we have found numerous faults/lies in your in and of 3rd party claims. Your ship has been sunk and you are drowning in your ocean of lies and lies and lies. Your lack of credibility, integrity and sincerity is clearly apparent for all to see. Goodbye liar.

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Doolin Dalton

This conversation is between you and I, so don't use Freeman Delusion as some sort of pathetic excuse not to provide a single piece of evidence as substantuation of your claims. That's a very weak attempt to avoid providing proof of claim.

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Good bye 3rd party liar....

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Doolin Dalton

Arthur Cristian is grappling with cognative dissonance issues. Unable to provide ANY evidential substantuation of his claims, he relies wholly upon his own unintelligible opinions, that have already been overruled by centuries of precedent...

https://www.facebook.com/thefreemandelusion/posts/759748590712359

15 June at 11:10

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Naturr Boii

You heed no sense, and merely attack a man, you bring nothing to the table but accusations and beliefs based on your own short comings. You will always be a slave by fighting for your own shackles.
You have been broken, which is a sad revelance of most Man living the same ignorance and violence you display.
Hope you find the spirit they stole from you, and you join us all in paradise

15 June at 15:09

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Love For Life Kindoms - The Co-Creation Of Do No Harm Communities

Copy of a post on Debra Bentley's FB wall.

Debra, in reference to this post: "who knows what it means when the Judge & all Court staff do a huge bow to you...?" https://www.facebook.com/bentley.debra/posts/10203311662986681

Either you as "name" is in and of 3rd party or you as MAN (no "name") is first party. The whole of "The System" operates ONLY in 3rd party, in "name", never in first party.

1, 2, 3, etc, are "names", a, b, c, etc, are "names", compass and square and everything derived from 1, 2, 3, a, b, c, compass, square, are "names" within many, many, many, "names".

The world, the atlas, the country, the state, the city, the suburb, the family of persons, etc, etc, are "names" within "names" within many, many, many, "names".

The local council, the state government, the federal government, all the private corporations, agencies, departments, etc, etc, are "names" within many, many, "names".

The supermarket and everything of the supermarket are "names" within many, many, many, "names".

The streets, the roads, the highways, etc, are "names" within many, many, many "names".

The libraries, the books, the his-story/her-story, the universities, the schools, the institutions, etc, etc, are "names" within many, many, "names".

The holy books, etc, are "names" within many, many, many, "names".

The commerce, the banks, the money, the credit, the debt, the accounts/ledgers/journals, the insurance, the assets, the equity, the deeds, the titles, the bonds, the trusts, the foundations, etc, etc, are "names" within many, many, many. many, "names".

The courts, the laws, the statutes, the bills, the parliaments, the political parties, etc, etc, are "names" within many, many, many "names".

etc

etc

etc

Everything of "The System" is a "name" within many, many, many "names".

All "names" are in and of 3rd party and all are fraud and are lies. None are in first party.

You, fallen-MAN, re-presenting "name" is in their "world" and of their world, you are in 3rd party (committing fraud and lying) and of 3rd party (the world/"The System" is fraud and is a lie), there is NO FIRST PARTY MAN PRESENT WITH THE PRESENCE OF LIFE (MAN) TO BE PRESENT AMONGST THE LIVING..

In "The System" everything is in and of 3rd party = no direct experience = fraud, lies.

Everything outside of "The System" is first party - is first party to first party = direct-experience = no fraud, no lying.

All lies are curses and all liars are processing curses. The "name" is the mark of the beast that is "The System" of "names". All in and of 3rd party ("name") are processing curses.

Nothing has changed here for the re-presentative of "name" Debra Bentley or whatever "name" is used in court. It does not matter how it is written and what is placed before or after "name" because all of it is "name".

The ONLY way to break this spell (processing curses/stop committing fraud, stop lying) is to be the first party = "NO NAME" - NO RE-PRESENTING "NAME" OF "NAME" OF "NAME" - NO PERFORMANCE IN "NAME", IN "NAME", IN "NAME".

MAN has no "name", has no need for "name" and nothing of nature/earth/life/creation needs a "name" either.

To us, the judges (in "name" and of "name") in the court (in "name" and of "name") bowing down to a re-presentative of "name" and in "name" are performing the ritual of processing curses and deflecting curses. NOTHING ELSE IS GOING ON HERE. Anything to do with "name" is a curse being processed.

All "words" and "letters" and "numbers" are curses being processed. More on "words" here: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203921833554291

The moment you/we started re-presenting "name" was the moment you/we were born in original sin = entered "The System" of "names" to ONLY be in and of 3rd party = you have given up everything you really are as first party.

Sin is the curse being processed by men, women and children committing fraud and being party to lies, to lying.

Any remedy to do with "name" is not a remedy, instead is the con-tinuation of a curse being processed.

You have all been deceived. Watch out for the Psyop Programs - they are always performed in and of 3rd party to keep the duped trapped in "The System".

The Psyop Program Scam Behind Religion Belief Faith & Associated Opinion by Arthur Cristian - Love For Life - 11th June 2014

The Cristian Family November 2006

The Psyop Program Scam
Behind Religion Belief Faith
& Associated Opinion


Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

11th June 2014

Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8525

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Link: https://www.facebook.com/nigel.beckwith/posts/10202275416354849

Nigel Beckwith
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Spent some time with some Muslim Brothers tonight. Good to share with peeps in my multi-cultural town.

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Matt King

Simply the best!!! from: Lynne

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Nigel Beckwith

They want me to read the Qur'an. I will give it a go. They are nice people, so far removed from the dark side that the west presents to us.

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Matt King

Definitely !! Sufism and Rumi all come from the Wholeness of Love !! from: lynne

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Nigel Beckwith

The main chap I spoke to was of the view that Sufism has become corrupted as they now believe that Humans are part of God, but he says that the Qur'an says God and Humanity are very different. I did not want to get into what I feel, as it is not for me to push my gnosis onto someone. I tend to agree with the Sufi's though...I think.

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Mohammad Soliman

its i very complicated Nigel
im muslim (was atheist b4)
sufis are in general good
however if you really want to understand islam ..
you have to know that understanding of religion is just like any other human intellectual activity
can go wrong or can just go extreme
so, sects in general (and schools of practice and understanding) are all right , and are al wrong
because they are man made ..
sufism is man made .. and many sufis say things that contradict simple islamic creeds ..
the belief in pantheism (God or gods can manifest .. or are part of "existense/universe" or the universe is just a reflection of God .. all these pantheistic thoughts) is very very very very non-islamic .. thast what islam is all about actually when it comes to creed ..
if you read the Quran (which is the only 100% trusted source for understanding islam) you will see this very clearly .. like 1/3 of the book is just being repetitive in diff ways about this.. monotheism .. God is 1 , absolute , if its created then its not God nor part of God nor a reflection of God .. God cant be comprehended , nor can be composed wasnt begotten from nor does he beget godlike entities.. if its not God himself then its created by God .. nothing in between .. you cant call God a spirit or a mind or love or whatever ..
sorry ill attach here a long quote .. but it perfectly explains how a true monotheist should think of God , it was preached by the prophet's cousin (one of his best students too) :

"The foremost in religion is the acknowledgement of Him, the perfection of acknowledging Him is to testify Him, the perfection of testifying Him is to believe in His Oneness, the perfection of believing in His Oneness is to regard Him Pure, and the perfection of His purity is to deny Him attributes, because every attribute is a proof that it is different from that to which it is attributed and everything to which something is attributed is different from the attribute.

Thus whoever attaches attributes to Allah recognises His like, and whoever recognises His like regards Him two; and whoever regards Him as two recognises parts for Him; and whoever recognises parts for Him mistook Him; and whoever mistook Him pointed at Him; and whoever pointed at Him admitted limitations for Him; and whoever admitted limitations for Him numbered Him. Whoever said: ‘In what is He?’, held that He is contained; and whoever said: ‘On what is He?’, held He is not on something else.

He is being, but not through phenomenon of coming into being. He exists but not from non-existence. He is with everything but not in physical nearness. He is different from everything but not in physical separation. He acts but without connotation of movements and instruments. He sees even when there is none to be looked at from among His creation. He is only One, such that there is none with whom He may keep company or whom He may miss in his absence."

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Mohammad Soliman

so from every sect take the good and leave the bad ..
how do you know the good from the bad?
compare it to Qoran ..if it contradicts clear meanings of the Quran then its wrong ..

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Mohammad Soliman

that as a muslim of course , i know youre still just looking around for knowledge of diff sources

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Fadi Zeitoune

As the Sufis say, "only those that have tasted, can know"

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Fadi Zeitoune

And as Arthur Cristian says all the above is intellectual property/reasoning, only with direct experience, can someone truly know Allah..

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Matt King

http://youtu.be/WnBYyIhDLWw from: lynne
The Great Deception Now Coming Upon The World
The Great Delusion of Islam the AntiChrist Cult Of Death is Sweeping and changing the political landscape in America. This is the Spirit Of AntiChrist "Who i...

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Mohammad Soliman

too each their own Zeitoune ..
thats how sufis view it .. but the guy is curious about islam itself .. islam is something and sufism is something else ..
sufism in its good side is the transcending core truth of all religions .. you cant be a true believer without being some sort of a sufi ..
in its bad side it has some non-islamic influences resulting in creeds and practices which contradict very clear Quranic teachings ..
like other sects do on same or other levels
you want to believe your sect has got it all .. fine .. and i respect that ..
but the guy is asking about islam in general apparently
and it is very non-sufi to assume i didnt taste thus i dont know

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Mohammad Soliman

thats exactly what v i meant when i said sects are man made thus not balanced and they usually express extremes ..
you know God by intellect .. by logic .. by heart .. by experience .. by practice .. by divine revelation (prophets delivering the word of God)
choosing one thing and saying its the only path results in imbalance ..
and God knows best

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Fadi Zeitoune

I agree, but if you have ever had a direct experience.. you will know the analogy of who/what we really are... "God is the dreamer, and we are but the dream characters" Having a direct experience is akin to having a lucid dream, where you know you are dreaming, and you 'remember' you ARE the dreamer... Another analogy, Imagine God was an actor, and he had to wear a mask and then he started to believe he was the mask... a direct experience is the same as taking that mask off.....and remembering who YOU and everyone/everything really is...

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Fadi Zeitoune

Remember the Quran is tthe direct word of God, but even it was filtered into Muhammad's brain and thoughts at the time and that time in history...

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Mohammad Soliman

no no no .. thats pantheism bro .. we are not God and God is not us .. we are from God .. but we are not God ..

and its wrong to think that Quran was "filtered" in Muhammad's brain ..
Quran is literal from God to the angel to the prophet to us .. not a letter changed ..
we can debate about this all you want .. the prophet wouldve messed it up if it was subject to his brain .. yes he is a prophet but he is human ..
i can bring many and many verses that will show Muhammad is not saying , but he is just reciting what was said to him

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Mohammad Soliman

and in general "personal experience" alone isnt a reliable source of religious/spiritual knowledge.. the devil works in mysterious ways too ..
if someone had some personal experience telling them chicken should be raped on mondays that doesnt make it a universal truth ..
im not judging your own experience .. who am i to get in that area .. im just saying its not reliable and its not an argument ..

anyway .. i have to go now .. bbl isA watch the video and continue the chit chat ..
peace be upon you all dear brothers

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Fadi Zeitoune

If God is the only reality.. there is ONLY God....

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Matt King

Definitely agree with you Mohammad the prophet is the mouthpiece/sensing a direct experience but it must be a living prophet for all dies with the death of a prophet and spirit/wisdom/love is Life in Motion fulfilling and evolving to the highest form of Love in Wholeness with everything ....from: Lynneviamatt

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Mohammad Soliman

yeah thats what ibn arabi says .. i understand it and i can prove it wrong in detail later .. but just a small hint now ..
God "exists" .. we dont really "exist" .. we are " existees"..
whats the diff?
the diff between God and no-God ..
thats exactly what divinity is all about ..
thats why i said God is not a mind (for example) God is all knowing .. but he is not a mind or the mind of the universe ? what universe? the universe is nothing .. its very belittling of God to think that the universe is God "looking into his mirror"
God knows but is not a mind and knows without needing a "mind"
God knows because he is the Knower
God sees but God doesnt have an eye .. its we who need tools because we are limited .. he is just "the all seeing"
God exists by himself .. we (and everrything else that is not God) exist by God ..
God is the only existence in that sense .. but that doesnt mean we dont "exist" too .. we do .. but we are existees ..

salam for now . igtg

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Matt King

Prophet's were an instrument to bring Man to this point of time they were the Voice in the midst of Chaos/system virus/satanic spells .... we now have to evolve in the Wholeness of Love as we have all the pieces/experience to the puzzle .. We are the living Presence we are the fruit of the prophet's labour those who are awake to Sense/Spirit/Wholeness .....from: Lynneviamatt

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Fadi Zeitoune

Another Analogy, God is the diamond, and we are each the facets of that diamond... God is the Ocean, and we are the droplets of water within the Ocean...

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Fadi Zeitoune

One that came to me is that we are the droplets of water, but we are surrounded by a mirror-like substance, so we only see our reflection... if we take away that substance, we can then see what we are the whole ocean...

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Matt King

We are Cosmic beings We are from the Heaven's ...from; Lynneviamatt
Matt King's photo.

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Fadi Zeitoune

Matt Dont know if you have read any of the ringing cedars, but in that Anastasia describes God as 'the supreme intelligence", or just our Father.. in the literal sense... she says each of us has a particle of God within us.. (our soul?)

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Arthur Cristian

To us, God/Allah means FULL-RESPONSIBILITY for everything we think, feel and do.. Passing the buck to a God/Allah is giving up taking full-responsibility for everything we think, feel and do. It is very simple. If everyone took full-responsibility for everything we think, feel and do we would be conscious of all forms of harm-doing/lying and not be party to setting harm/lies into motion. All else is bullshit, this includes all forms of excuses and justifications for perpetuating lies/harm-doing = religion = "The System" of lying/doing-harm.

For example: the thought of a God/Allah is not God/Allah - the thought of a God/Allah is just an idea made up by another man/woman telling you how to think, feel and act about a God/Allah. This is fact and is lying/doing-harm.

Whoever is educating innocent children into the thoughts of a God/Allah is not taking full-responsibility for lying/doing-harm to them.

Where can millions of innocent children not exposed to a thought of a God/Allah (not exposed to "The System" of a God/Allah - that is what religion is = "The System" of justifications and excuses) go anywhere in nature (including observing celestial bodies) to learn about a thought of a God/Allah without another MAN (men/women/children) already got at by "The System" of lying/doing-harm having to explain/educate/instruct them into a thought of a God/Allah??????

If anyone makes the claim of a God or Allah they need to bring forward the first party God/Allah to back their claims so that everyone can have a direct experience with God/Allah, first party to first party with all senses activated = lets hear it directly from the tongue of God/Allah and not from a 3rd party re-presentative of a God/Allah acting as an impostor of a God/Allah = lying/doing-harm = FRAUD.

Anyone who is really waking up can see/sense the depth of lying/doing-harm another man/woman will undertake to keep the lie/harm perpetuating. All forms of excuses, justifications, etc, DOES NOTHING to dispel the fact that they are lying and are blatantly doing harm to innocent children. They are not taking full-responsibility for what they think, feel and do. So unless you/they can bring forward the first party God/Allah to back your claims, we say, STOP LYING, STOP DOING HARM to innocent children = stop passing the buck, stop participating in "The System" of lying and harm-doing = religion = faith or belief or associated opinion in a religion rooted in the thought of a God/Allah.

How many religious believers are providing full-disclosure to innocent children about their lies/harm-doing while indoctrinating them into "The System" of their beLIEfS??????

Are they taking FULL-RESPONSIBILITY????????? NO-WAY.

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Nigel Beckwith

Best go and tell the Muslims that then mate. I am just their friend.

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Mohammad Soliman

back briefly will have to go again , sorry ..
just read what you guys wrote when i left and im really amazed at how many people claim to be spiritual yet the only way for them to comprehend "spiritual"* matters is through the material ..
God is the universe .. God is a vibration .. God is energy .. the soul is but a sell in the body and so on ..
that sounds very "material" to me ..

heaven* means heaven literally .. so coming from heaven means coming from "outer space" .. then it gets all material .. we come from outer space .. scientifically earth and all matter on it including our bodies is but star dust .. and there you go .. just giving "spiritual" names to material things .. (thats how they worshiped the sun for example)

i put the '*' thing in front of 'heaven' and 'spiritual' because these two are also not islamic terms and terms can be very misleading ..
muslims dont say heaven .. they say paradise .. heaven is part of the universe .. the whole universe is almost an illusion and it is temporary .. "heaven/paradise" is post-universe
muslims dont say spiritual ..
because we dont think God is a spirit ..
thinking hell is beneath us inside earth and that God is in the heaven and those who die go to heaven is a pagan concept that influenced jewish and christian intelects at the time of writing down the word of God .. how Quran was preserved is very diff from the old and the new testaments ..

anyway to sum the point up .. jst imagine how many other universes can God create with totally diff sets and numbers of dimensions and dimensional relations .. and youll understand how big of an intellectual sin to consider God part of that universe

please dont misunderstand me ... im not attacking your beliefs ..nor am i judging you or anything .. im showing you the areas of friction with other beliefs.. we're thinking and searching together ..

there is something Godly in us .. God is within us .. near us .. but he is not us ..

you want to know why is it dangerous? pantheism, i mean .. thats how polytheism usually happens .. and worshiping people and all that ..

ok . if God is us .. some are good and some are bad .. right? how can that be when God is all of us .. then it must mean that God manifests only in those who are good .. the more God you recognize in you the more of God you become .. right? thats how it functions ..
then some people claim .. or others consider them .. as those who have reached nirvana .. and are now 100% God ..
Buddha now is worshiped almost as a pagan ancestral god..
Jesus is thought to be God himself or part of God or one of the manifestations of God ..
and we beget "holy" men .. and clergies ..
because if Jesus can be 100% God then maybe the pope is 30% God and cardinals are about 25 % God .. and so on ..
what are we doing here ?? judging each other and ourselves and giving spiritual ranks ??? isnt that the authority of God alone???
so no need for the day of judgment then .. we know better than God and we can decide now who is all God and who is doomed to oblivion ..

what the bleep do we know really ?
who are we to get in that area and make up mini Gods of ourselves

ok you will say but God is both good and evil (llike some vedic people say) that cannot be .. Gad does no evil nor does he like it done .. evil is not the will of God .. evil is the result of our free will .. we dont call anything in nature evil do we? even hurricanes and lions eating lambs we dont call evil .. we know this truth as self-evident, that only our acts can be evil acts ..
and the danger in that belief is : if God is the the killer the knife and the dead .. then there is no point of fighting evil .. it will be fighting God or the will of God ..
but evil is to be fought within us and outside us because its the result of evil choices made in evil moments by free-willed people ..
if you ask many hindus they will reply as if good and evil are living in harmony together and both express God ..
the muslim view is diff .. to muslims the universe is in harmony but the evil of man is the out of tune notes on earth .. (thats why we enjoy being in "nature")
monotheism gives you a stronger stance against evil ..
unconditional love doesnt and wont ever stop or fix or make evil less ..
unconditional love is accepting both good and evil as being equal and the same ..
why dont you love your tooth decay microbes then and stop using toothpaste .. or your odor and stop showering .. why do you love cleanliness? why cant you love dirtiness unconditionally?
can you really love a guy who tortured a baby for months until it died?
if you saw him doing it i bet you all your beliefs youll smash his head off with the nearest hard object ..
because you too are evil?
or it would be because you are a good guy who cant stand watching something that evil happening without trying to stop it?
can you claim you were loving the rapist unconditionally in the moment the hard object was breaking his skull??

i dint cover it all up .. but i have to stop now because that was a lot of ranting *blush* hehe

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Arthur Cristian

What has this got to do with what we've just written. We are talking about taking FULL-RESPONSIBILITY for everything you/we think, feel and do. It seems you don't want to do this.

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Nigel Beckwith

That's a large assumption Arthur. I would prefer to hear what Mohammed has to say. I do not agree with it all but some I do. But will have to leave till later now. As for responsibility, any being growing in consciousness has to know that that is where they must go...and if any religion denies that then I cannot be part of it.

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Arthur Cristian

Its simple, bring forward the first party Mohammed - lets hear it directly from the tongue of Mohammed. Bringing forward a man/woman acting as an impostor of Mohammed is blatantly lying, is committing fraud.

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Arthur Cristian

This is NOT an assumption - this is FACT.

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Mohammad Soliman

sorry Arthur read up a bit ,, we were exchanging views about the concept of God .. and the whole status is about Islam actually ..
anyway sorry to hijack the post .. and Nigel was asking about the raltion between sufism and islam and sufism has a lot in common with buddhism and new age philosophy thats how it all branched out ..
sorry again

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Mohammad Soliman

huh? who is imposting ?? i dont get it?? who brought who ?

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Arthur Cristian

To us, ALL RELIGIONS/BELIEFS are fraud, are lies.

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Arthur Cristian

Are you Mohammed?

Is anyone around you Mohammed?

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Mohammad Soliman

us who ?
and Mohammed who ?
nmy name is mohammad yes , if thats your question

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Arthur Cristian

We are addressing the Mohammad of the Religion Koran, are you this Mohammed?

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Mohammad Soliman

no body is around me im alone in my room ? whats up Arthur?

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Arthur Cristian

Quran

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Arthur Cristian

Were you a first party witness to the MAN Mohammed and all the quotes related to this Mohamed that formed the basis of the Quran. If no, do you know anyone else who can come forward as a first party witness?

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Mohammad Soliman

sorry i didnt see your addressing of Mohammad (the prophet) himself .. and youo cant address him anymore .. he died 1400 years ago ..
my real name in real life is Mohammad .. many muslims have that name ..
and you judged all religions as being false while on of the major ones you dont even know the name of .. its the relligion of islam not koran .. koran is the book ..

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Arthur Cristian

Can you bring anyone forward who was there as a first party witness?

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Mohammad Soliman

thast not how we view Quran at all btw ..
Quran is not quoting Muhammad .. (to muslims) its quoting God .. qouting Muhammad is diff and has diff scripts .. called hadeth .. literaly meaning talking or speach (of the prophet) to differenciate it from Quran itself which is considered by muslims to be direct general divine communication to us ..

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Mohammad Soliman

and no i didnt whitness him saying whatever he said , his speech or Quran .. but what diff does it make ?

no nor can i not bring anyone of his companions .. get to the point

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Arthur Cristian

FRAUD. if you can't back the claims by bringing forward the first parties = fraud. = lying. = "The System" of a religion - Christianity is a system of a religion with all believers trapped under the image power of the fraudulent high-priests who act as an impostor/re-presentative of a God or a Jesus. Same with Islam and Judaism and Buddhism.

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Arthur Cristian

His-Story/Her-Story

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
2005-2006

Much of his-story/her-story, ancient or not, has been twisted and unless you can rout out all the lies/liars you will be thinking everything you are reading is true and therefore be brainwashed - nothing to learn from brainwashing.

Were you there?

Do you know any 1st party you can bring forward who was there? And we're not talking about a brainwashed drone coming forward acting under costume and title, or not, as a 3rd party re-presentative of whatever his-story/her-story they claim to be true.

Up to roughly 1780AD, 99.99% of the total population of MAN all across Earth could not read and write any alphabet language and never did. Even up to 1930AD still more than 90% of the population of MAN all across earth were illiterate to alphabet languages. Today's supposed 6.7 to 7 billion population of MAN, all their ancestors going back through all recorded his-story/her-story had NOTHING to do with recording it because they could not read and write an alphabet language - they ONLY had their tribal/village tongue/talk/songs/arts/etc.....

The ONLY ones who could read and write to record his-story/her-story were the owners of the castles, the land-lords, land-barons, the royal families, aristocrats, the high-priest-hoods and all their scribes and lackeys and they roughly re-presented 20 per one million of the population of MAN going back through ALL recorded his-story/her-story.

The victors wrote ALL the his-story/her-story and it's biased to suit their short and long-term objectives/agendas. It was ONLY these privileged "chosen-ones" who recorded ALL his-story/her-story so no matter what version of alphabet-language history you dive into it was recorded by them. This is FACT. It took the better part of 20 years to master the "craft" and "practice" of an alphabet language and this included mastering mathematics and geometry/sacred geometry - all read and write alphabet languages are crafted out of mathematics and geometry/sacred geometry and all are abominations, all are make-believe, none are real/true - they are not our true tongue.

We are all the descendants of tribes of MAN all across Earth who were invaded, raped, pillaged, plundered, humiliated, ridiculed, abused, decimated, destroyed, and vast genocide was issued all-around. What remained, mainly deeply traumatised children were brainwashed into their conquerors version of their ancestors his-story/her-story so that through the generations they would completely lose connection with their ancestral tongues and word-of-mouth truths.

These invaders first came as missionaries, scientists, botanists, surveyors, geologists, historians, etc, etc, and they came and went for up to 200 years recording/documenting the tongues, customs, ways-of-life, the natural environment, etc, etc, and when they finished recording all their his-story/her-story they then sent in their warships and armies to decimate the tribes. This happened all-across-Earth, all over Europe, Americas, Asia-Pacific regions, etc, etc... All the Royal families of Europa are all the "SAME" bloodlines and all are under the power and control of the Freemasonic/Satanic world led by high-priests/priestesses who created ALL religions, philosophies, civilisations, cults, sects, races, occults, esoterics, "system science", etc, known throughout all recorded his-story/her-story.

The British Empire, not the slaves/drones/commoners/serfs, etc, under Britain, is the head, "The Crown" of "The System" of the Western World who conquered almost all of Earth, if not ALL, and are still in power today. They control America (war over America's Independence was orchestrated by Freemasons on all sides - all working together behind the scenes) , Russia (Bolshevik revolution), China (took them 300 years through the East India company and the opium wars to conquer China - and are still in power all over Asia), Canada, NZ, Australia, Japan (thanks to 2nd world war), Brazil, Argentina, Africa, India, etc, etc....... all of it.

When they conquered lands such as Australia the high-priests.priestesses carved up all the lands into parish lands and put a church in every parish and a priest in every church to deal with the sinners (processors of curses). It does not matter if the church is Protestant, Catholic, etc, they are ALL 100% controlled by the Freemasonic/Satanic world and you want to trust their history, particularly after all the effort they went into brainwashing men, women and children everywhere leading to all the invasions and wars that murdered over 100 billion men, women, children - this includes all the poisons, toxins, chemicals, eugenics, plagues, pestilence, vaccinations, weapons of mass destruction, agriculture, eating animals, dairy products, processed wheat, etc, (highly dangerous to our bodies), etc, etc, etc, they brought with them throughout all their sojourns across Earth under the guise of Ancient Egypt, Greece, Rome, Babylon, Persia, Assyria, China, Aztec, Maya, Inca, Sanskrit, etc, etc.

All these civilisations had read and write alphabet languages, mathematics and geometry/sacred-geometry and they all had royal families divinely appointed by God, high-priest-hoods divinely appointed by God and the rule of law of God divinely appointed by God. WHAT A COINCIDENCE. Nothing natural about any of this - all require extensive brainwashing-education to understand the make-believe con-structs they all are. You can change the name royal families, high-priest-hoods, God, etc to EU, NATO, WTO, WHO, UN, NWO, America, President, Prime Minister, Director, CEO, Senator, Treasurer, Professor, Academic, Bankster, Emperor, Dictator, Caesar, etc, etc, etc,......... its all the same non-sense rubbish used under different guises throughout all their systems of civilisations. "All are of "The System", their systems designed to maintain power and control over their captive slaves, generation after generation after generation"..... this says it all. If you want to learn more about this please read and watch our articles, videos, etc, ............

In their recorded "ages" of their his-story/her-story, the late 1100's/early 1200's, they started creating English primarily out of hieroglyphics/pictorial-mathematics, Hebrew, Greek, Latin, and they called English THE NEW WORLD LANGUAGE. The letter j/J did not exist until roughly 1520AD. It appears j/J was first used by Freemason/Satanist Francis Bacon alias William Shakespeare with the word Jew. Words like Jesus came out of Lesus which came out of Iesus/iesus which came out of Isis = Land Lord/Land-Baron/Pharaoh/etc ruling over serfs/commoners/slaves/etc. NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

English was crafted by French Judeo-Judaic Architects/draftsmen of law, what you refer to as Gods - judges, barristers, lawyers, etc... They (all the chosen ones of their cabal) are the Gods of English. Welcome to Alice in Wonderland Through The Looking Glass - Welcome To Dorothy Down The Yellow Brick Road In The Land Of Oz.

ALL BOOKS ARE ABOMINATIONS - ALL ALPHA LANGUAGES ARE ABOMINATIONS - ALL NUMERICS ARE ABOMINATIONS - they were all crafted for PSYOPS PROGRAMMING - There was no other purpose for them. While anyone believes in this non-sense they have become the abomination too.

Find a book, scroll, papyri, tablet, alpha language, mathematics, geometry/sacred geometry, recorded history, not part of "The System" of those/any recorded "ages". Can you do that? If you can't then this clearly reveals to you DARKNESS VISIBLE, demonstrating just how big this grand deception is and has been.

Every letter (image) of all alpha languages are incantations designed to craft "spells" set into motion by fallen/conned-MAN.

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Mohammad Soliman

can you bring julius caeser to this chat? or any of his companions ?
FRAUD .. there was no great rome nor was prutus nor was a civil war nor a conspiracy nor an assasination and cleopetra is just a work of hollywood done by the back then very hot liz tylor

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Arthur Cristian

Were you there?

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Mohammad Soliman

and you dont seem to have read all i wrote .. i was high gear on ibnventing holy men or bestaowing holliness onto anyone or anything but God ..
and it seems your knowledge of Islam is very limited and like many many atheist westerners just assume it must be similar to the christianity you have (which is a roman thing and is diff from the original christianity a looooot)
actually islam is about ridding the religion of God of all these man made corruptions to the original messages and practices of the universal religion of God ..
muslims dont beleieve Islam is a religion that started with Mohammad ..
they view Islam as the religion of God .. the divine message that was sent over and over to all nations all around the world .. and people corrupt this divine message, thus there are diff religions that contradict each other on some or most points ..
and Islam is not an "organized" religion nor can it become organized .. and even the prophet himself we dont think of him as holy even partially ..
what if i told you there are actually verses in Quran saying exactly what you dont like about "religions" and saying these are human and satanic corruptions to the truth and are manipulations by greedy power hungry people ??

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Mohammad Soliman

anyway i continue later coz i have another errand to do ..
peace be upon you all

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Mohammad Soliman

forgot to say i didnt read your last long comment yet .. will do when i get back

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Arthur Cristian

The point is did you get all this information from a book or directly from Allah/God?

The most important point we are bringing to your attention is Islam/Quran/Koran is "The System", For example, copy pasted from a few recent posts....

Extract from this thread: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203866014838858 and this one too:: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10203838087060681

"I pledge allegiance, to the earth and to all beings which inhabit it and to the planet, from which it stands, ONE world under LOVE, indivisible, with peace and liberty for all."

Just what are those behind the New World Order trying very hard to bring in; "oneness" and "consciousness" under a ONE world government with a ONE world currency (electronic/cashless), ONE world religion, ONE world army, etc, and NO alternative for those who do not wish to live according to these dictates.

Is this where your allegiance is?

Definition of allegiance: "loyalty or commitment to a superior or to a group or cause."

Who are these "superiors"?

We are not pledging allegiance to anyone!

Commitment to work together come what may to co-create the paradise we all dream for but pledge allegiance - no way!

The "oneness" consciousness is a system construct, a cult of "The System". One is finite, limited, is both a third party and of a third party. A clear blueprint of the Satanic/Freemasonic agenda, requiring belief, faith, associated opinion, "educated-slaves and rulers". Just what we have now!

ONE is also limited liability/responsibility because there is a higher power behind ONE, a higher power that is a man-made con-struct/con-cept as in Govern-MEN-t, Federation, Council, Order, Union, etc. The ONE is the higher power. ONE is a man-made image imposed on another MAN. ONE is a lie.

To us it is WHOLE/WHOLENESS and not ONE. One is duality - is a reflection/shadow of a con-struct/con-cept educated into you becoming the echoes of demonic 3rd party shadows/reflections bouncing to and fro between your ears. Wholeness has no reflections, no shadows. Wholeness does not require education/instruction/explanation while "one" does. Children not got at (brainwashed) have a direct experience of the wholeness of nature/earth/MAN but with "one" it requires a 3rd party educator/instructor/explainer to our innocent children and these non-sensory images forms the duality of 3rd party "one" bouncing to and fro between your ears as that 3rd party reflection. THIS IS DUALITY.

The "God" of Christianity, Judaism, Islam, etc, is the higher power of ONE "God" behind "The System" that rules all the believers in everyday practical-sense. God is a man-made hierarchical system of high-priest-HOODS brainwashing everyone (educated-slaves) under their ONE GOD Image Power. Same with "ONE CONSCIOUSNESS", "ONE EARTH", "ONE PLANET", etc, etc, there is a hierarchy re-presenting the higher power of ONE over everyone in the form of a Uni-Verse-All Federation, Council, Society, Govern-Men-t, Union, etc, etc..... WHO THE HELL ARE THE PEOPLE BEHIND THIS "ONE"??????????????

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Arthur Cristian

Do you fully-comprehend the Psyops Programming going on that cons believers into "The System" to be ruled by the "authorities/re-presentatives" of that religion/faith????

All of this is FRAUD and no one is taking full-responsibility for everything they think, feel and do.

All the while the brainwashed believers (educated-slaves) practice their daily rituals they are being ruled by "The System" of high-priests/priestesses, the slave-masters - this is FACT.

Does it matter what religion or faith is discussed when those who discuss the virtues of one religion or faith over another are all presently slaves to "The System" that rules them throughout their whole lives???

What is more important, true freedom for all of MAN or the continuation of religions/faiths to keep everyone enslaved???

As you said: and no i didnt whitness him saying whatever he said , his speech or Quran .. but what diff does it make ?" and "no nor can i not bring anyone of his companions .. get to the point"......... ARE YOU A SLAVE?

THE FACT IS YOU ARE A SLAVE and the religion/faith you have MAKES YOU A SLAVE.

Hence, all religions/faiths are FRAUD, are LIES. Lost into the religion/faith, no one is taking full-responsibility for everything they think, feel and do. THIS IS FACT. And this brings us back to full-circle...........

To us, God/Allah means FULL-RESPONSIBILITY for everything we think, feel and do.. Passing the buck to a God/Allah is giving up taking full-responsibility for everything we think, feel and do. It is very simple. If everyone took full-responsibility for everything we think, feel and do we would be conscious of all forms of harm-doing/lying and not be party to setting harm/lies into motion. All else is bullshit, this includes all forms of excuses and justifications for perpetuating lies/harm-doing = religion = "The System" of lying/doing-harm.

For example: the thought of a God/Allah is not God/Allah - the thought of a God/Allah is just an idea made up by another man/woman telling you how to think, feel and act about a God/Allah. This is fact and is lying/doing-harm.

Whoever is educating innocent children into the thoughts of a God/Allah is not taking full-responsibility for lying/doing-harm to them.

Where can millions of innocent children not exposed to a thought of a God/Allah (not exposed to "The System" of a God/Allah - that is what religion is = "The System" of justifications and excuses) go anywhere in nature (including observing celestial bodies) to learn about a thought of a God/Allah without another MAN (men/women/children) already got at by "The System" of lying/doing-harm having to explain/educate/instruct them into a thought of a God/Allah??????

If anyone makes the claim of a God or Allah they need to bring forward the first party God/Allah to back their claims so that everyone can have a direct experience with God/Allah, first party to first party with all senses activated = lets hear it directly from the tongue of God/Allah and not from a 3rd party re-presentative of a God/Allah acting as an impostor of a God/Allah = lying/doing-harm = FRAUD.

Anyone who is really waking up can see/sense the depth of lying/doing-harm another man/woman will undertake to keep the lie/harm perpetuating. All forms of excuses, justifications, etc, DOES NOTHING to dispel the fact that they are lying and are blatantly doing harm to innocent children. They are not taking full-responsibility for what they think, feel and do. So unless you/they can bring forward the first party God/Allah to back your claims, we say, STOP LYING, STOP DOING HARM to innocent children = stop passing the buck, stop participating in "The System" of lying and harm-doing = religion = faith or belief or associated opinion in a religion rooted in the thought of a God/Allah.

How many religious believers are providing full-disclosure to innocent children about their lies/harm-doing while indoctrinating them into "The System" of their beLIEfS??????

Are they taking FULL-RESPONSIBILITY????????? NO-WAY.

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Arthur Cristian

And yes, "the devil works in mysterious ways"........ LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

You have NO DIRECT EXPERIENCE OF "GOD"/"ALLAH", etc, instead all you have is DIRECT EXPERIENCE OF SLAVERY. LOLLLLLLLLLLL

All your recollection of 3rd party storytelling of "holy books", etc, in present-sense, makes you, and everyone else infected by these lies and fraud, slaves to.

When you discuss your particular belief faith with anyone anywhere FIRST TELL THEM THAT YOU ARE A SLAVE AND THAT THEY ARE SLAVES TOO. Always helps to start with the truth of reality and then ask yourselves the question how does your holy books, religions, faiths, etc help you all be free of slavery here and now in present-sense? And if they don't show you and everyone how to be truly free here and now then throw them all in the rubbish bin where they belong. What is more important, your slavery or your true freedom?

It's clear for all to see/sense that your "God"/"Allah"/"belief"/"faith" is the God/religion/faith of your slavery and not of your true freedom.

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Rachael Wild

yes i studies Sufism,i love itxxxxxxxxxxx and i love you xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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Routing Out Psyop Programs Routs Out Intel Operatives + Exposing Max Igan's Psyop Program - Arthur & Fiona Cristian - 31/05/2014

The Cristian Family November 2006

Routing Out Psyop Programs
Routs Out Intel Operatives


Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 31st May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8524

Link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203677889935853

There are three parts to this post but they are all interconnected and all show how to spot the psyop program working to keep us in "The System" even while we think we are getting out of "The System". Facebook comments are posted below Part Three.

Part One

This is a conversation with people that we claim are INTEL agents, Mark Darwin of Truthology and Max Igan. It all started because we asked Ivana https://www.facebook.com/ivana.dirlicsindija/posts/10152427160663469 why she was taking our posts down from her Facebook Wall when the information we are putting up is to help people wake up to how they are being manipulated. This is what Ivana says she lives/stands for too. We also said that Mark Darwin and Max Igan were INTEL BIG-TIME, implying, why is she protecting them by taking down posts that rout them out. Ivana posted this (above link): To my Perth friends! Don't miss this opportunity...Freedom Summit is going on tonight in your neighborhood....And they are offering free tickets!!! Lucky you guys I went to see it here in Sydney and it was a brilliant event. There are some amazing speakers to be there ......Don't miss it!

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Ivana replied: Ivana Zara Dostojevski Max Igan is not intel......neither is Mark Darwin. You got that wrong, BIGTIME Arthur/Fiona! Bigtime! By the way, I don't like when people sharing their stuff on my wall as a separate posts.....if there is something you want to say related to specific thread feel free and post it under that thread, but pls don't use my wall to promote your messages....it's not cool. Ta

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Mark Darwin replied: Yes Arthur, I am intell and so is Max...... Mate you discredit yourself BIGTIME with such rubbish posts. Heal mate....

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We replied with these posts.............

In reference to this video posted here: https://www.facebook.com/jeanice.barcelo/posts/10203671779503096, Jeanice Barcello wrote today asking: Arthur Cristian - can you share more of your thoughts about the metal bowls? Do you feel the same about crystal bowls?

Hi Jeanice, everything of nature/earth/life, all sensory-life-forms, inanimate or not, has an ORIGINAL purpose for the dream of life - they exist where they are for that purpose. All we need to do is attune with them for them to reveal their true purpose with each of us.

This is very different to having your head spinning with stories about crystals, crystal healings, metal bowl resonances, etc, etc, not coming from these sensory-life-forms, BUT coming from impostors who hijacked the natural characters (information) of sensory-life-forms so they can impersonate them, to act as the 3rd party storytellers of information about the crystals that has not come directly from the crystals, etc, and making out that it does. The fact is this is a lie, they are lying, they made it all up and are the blind-spots making a terrible mess of our real lives.

Just as every grain of sand is unique/original, so is every crystal, so is every MAN. So how can we say that "quartz crystals do this and are good for that" when by doing so we are lumping all quartz crystals in one basket and all of MAN in one basket. Every time someone puts something in our head and we superimpose it on life, we are creating a blind spot because we are not communicating directly with the life form. This is how we form "The System".

This blind spot is a demon controlling your thoughts, feelings (turned/twisted into e-motions) and actions. How many blind spots do we all have, as we struggle to reclaim who we really are?????? We just have to keep recognising them and letting go, recognising them and letting go, recognising them and letting go, and trying to remain humble because we can be sure that the area where we put our noses in the air and either refuse to acknowledge our blind spots or justify them, are the areas where we are most in the grip of the demons.

EVERYTHING of the dream of life is sacred - not just the crystal spots, or the pristine spots, or a "special" tree. Even the land we have scarred and carved is sacred, even if it doesn't seem so because of what we have done to it. All the carving and scarring is the blind spots telling us that it is ok to carve and scar, which is why it is carved and scarred. If we didn't have the story telling of cars, non-natural houses, mobile phones, ovens, etc, in our heads, we would never think to have mines, or to create roads, etc. Same with mining for crystals.

The uniqueness and originality of everything in its natural, original and unique "place" is what allies with our uniqueness and originality too. If we are brought up by pristine nature, we are able to tune into the uniqueness and originality about everything and the uniqueness and originality of everything brings out the uniqueness and originality of each of us, which resonates back with nature. We co-create nature with our unique and original thoughts and dreams and nature gives us access to the unique, original thoughts and dreams of all of MAN co-creating with nature. This allows us to be present to all of creation to create our uniqueness/originality which expands the unique original dream of life with the presence of our unique original lives.

Imagine being a young child in nature without any system thoughts and stories in our heads; we have the natural ability to access all the uniqueness and originality of every life form of nature right here and now, the WHOLE of it, in present sense because that information is who we really are, it is our consciousness. And there is no "journey", no "ritual", no "training", to get to the information - it is there in present sense at every moment. It is only when we get blind spots that we disconnect from consciousness in present sense, creating "time", distance and separation so that we are no longer conscious of the information of the dream of life. It is when we are no longer conscious that we are able to scar, carve and destroy, unable and unwilling to sense the harm we are causing. We no longer sense the original unique purpose of what we are destroying. Our heritage has become an abomination passed on to our progeny. We have forsaken vast "parts" of who we really are.

Everything of life, from the ocean beds to the highest mountains, to the forests, to all the celestial bodies, to everything deep beneath Earth, is the breeze of MANS consciousness blowing across Earth to ruffle our hair and caress our faces, it is the warm embracing sunlight of MANS unique and original truth raising each of us in the joy and celebration of our elation for being the unique and original MAN we all really are. It is constantly present.

Untampered by "system thought", the blind spots, we honour, protect, celebrate, rejoice, nurture, and expand the uniqueness of our ancestors as our children will honour and protect ours, as we protect theirs by protecting them from system thought, the blind-spots. But alas, this is not to be - we are all deeply bogged down with storytelling blind-spots that are demons leading us out front with almost everything we think feel and do for a whole life-"time", destroying the uniqueness and originality of all of life. We are now the scarred and carved remains of who we were meant to be, of MAN. And people want to buy crystals that have been carved from Earth and sit "feeling their power" and performing rituals with them. Are crystals powerful? Of course they are, but in our present dumbed down state, we have no idea how to connect with them or use them to aid in our co-creation.

And here we are, creating "freedom" movements, trying to create freedom and truth for each other, all the time we are continuing to scar, carve and destroy MAN/Earth/nature. We already are uniquely and originally free, we just have to live it, be it (be left alone untampered to be truly free), just as all the information we need of creation, of our creation, is available, if we would only sense it, if our heads hadn't been tampered with.

How do foundations/trust/money/commerce/movements of freedom, etc, create freedom? They are just image power blind spots and this is what the whole Freemasonic/Satanic Intel world is all about - capturing gullible people through their blind spots, through storytelling from third parties, which is what the freedom/truth movement and all the INTEL agents involved is all about, desecrating our fellow MAN. It is full of men and women acting as imposters of a freedom (the thought of freedom is not freedom) over other men and women by claiming that their story telling of a freedom is the story of freedom when this is a BLATANT LIE.

How can you re-present another MAN and have the MAN still be unique and original? You can't it is impossible.

The freedom/truther INTEL agents come as rescuers, saviours, messiahs, etc, just as the Knights Templars waded into the Crusades, and performed benevolent works. They rescued those under a deeply traumatised image power problem to put them into another deeply traumatised image power problem. Nothing changed. The trauma, the blind spots, never left them.

The sleight of hand cleverly crafts its deception.

Everything about the freemasonic/satanic world is about Kidnapping MAN and putting MAN under the image power of their stories, their blind spots.

Nothing has changed.

This is blatant black magic because they are forcing other men and women under their image power of a freedom of their standing, their storytelling of freedom that forces everyone under their standing of a freedom. There is no uniqueness and originality of MAN here. It is still all about the "name" of freedom and we are just imposters committing fraud. One freedom fits all - this is communism, socialism, dictatorship, the Cesar Empire, democracy, the reincarnation of Roman Catholic Church and the Church of England under the Start Trek Federation version of freedom, aka the New World Order.

Watch out for the rescuers who come to lead you out of the frying pan into the fire. Watch out for Sacha Stone with his HUMANITAD, NEW EARTH PROJECT (Ushering In A New Era Of Planetary Innovation And Leadership - lolllllll), watch out for Frank O'Collins with his UCADIA and ONE HEAVEN, watch out for THRIVE, ZEITGEIST, UBUNTU, OPPT, SWISSINDO, ONE EARTH this or that, NEW WORLD this or that, ONE CONSCIOUSNESS this or that, watch out for David Icke, Jordan Maxwell, Kevin Annett, Benjamin Fulford, Mark Passio, Santos Bonacci ASTROTHEOLOGY, etc, watch out for FREEDOM this or that movements, organisations, like Mark Darwin with his TRUTHOLOGY and FREEDOM SUMMITS, etc, as THEY ARE ALL Knights Templar (Freemasonic/Satanic) engineered Intel bullshit. They are all blind-spots for the duped to remain blind to who they really are and what they are really part of. They are ALL shepherds to the sheeple, the duped.

With all of these movements/shepherds, everything is in the "name". It is not naturally expressed and lived in/of the MAN. It is the "name" Zeitgeist, the "name" Ubuntu", the "name" OPPT, the "name" Freedom. These are all shadows/reflections bouncing to and fro between the victims ears and they are all the blind spots keeping victims under control and pliant.

There are multi millions of men, women and children suffering under "The System", the blind spots, now being got at with the very same methods that got them in this situation in the first place, under the guise of getting them out of "The System". They are being provided with another system ("NAME") of "freedom"!

We are all unique and original, not one the same as the next, so how can we be provided with the same, textbook freedom?

This is a lie, fraud.

This problem is appearing everywhere now - remedies full of mantras that sound as though they are offering just what we need but are in fact only offering conformity and more image power, the blind spots. Again, we are relying on others to provide us with Freedom through the "name" Freedom, rather than taking FULL-responsibility for our lives in present-sense. Best we are all left alone to recreate our real-lives uniquely.

To expand on these themes in greater detail please read this post http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514 and follow the sequential order links provided to other Love For Life articles and videos which collectively provide the big-picture we see/sense, particularly these posts, listed below.

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At this link: https://www.facebook.com/kipper/posts/10203671756662525

Capri Adirim posted this comment:

Sacha Stone Beyond Time, Money & Fear - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKVT1p18-o4&feature=share
New Earth Founder Sacha Stone interviewed by CNW TV in Belgium. This short (graphically animated) interview outlines the New Earth vision and it's zero-point dimension. Please SHARE this widely and join the rising chorus of sovereignty and consciousness-in-action.

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We replied......

The World is "The System" - no such thing as "Old" Earth and "New" Earth - If we accept, honour, protect, nurture and celebrate uniqueness/originality of everything and don't interfere whatsoever then there is no "old" or :new" - just creation/co-creation of life from instant to instant of our every breath.

Some of the Humanitad members are Intel, people like Jerry Prus & John Walsh - He is revealing his part in the NWO ---- he says..... in reference to Chile "held in the protectorate in the "trust" outside the jurisdiction of any nation state under pure law".

WHAT A LOAD OF SPIN-DOCTORING BULLSHIT THIS. IS.... "UNDER PURE LAW".

What Pure Law?

Whose Pure Law?

And who were the legal-papers filed to/with?

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Capri Adirim replied

Arthur he said 'pure law' is individual law. We each choose individually. "Do no harm" imho should be universal.

Arthur, I am sure even within your own home their are 'rules' such as keep the toilet seat down, keep the music at a level that does not disrupt other members of the family that say are trying to sleep/nap etc. etc. Ones 'job/rule' may be that one takes out the garbage while the other does dishes etc. Unless we live completely autonomous (no other human beings around to interact/commune with) then in reality we can't really 'do as we please'.

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We replied................

And who is this lawful legal authority, based in pure law, with the power/force to protect this community?

Sounds like the Federation (NWO) of Star Trek coming together behind the scenes. Watch out..... anyone who believes this shit is being had, are being led down another yellow brick road.

And has faculties for "economics"!

And much of the infrastructure are dead corpse buildings requiring "The System" to build, maintain them etc..... The NWO is a cashless economy which AND he supports "Virtual Government" ----- UNDER UNIVERSAL LAW..... LOLLLLLLL etc, etc..... This is not a remedy whatsoever.

He also says "the mask is almost off and once that mask falls and the emperor is found to have no clothes standing behind the curtain the "world" is going to change very very quickly......"

Would love to have a discussion with him". He wrote to us a few years ago. He never answered the questions we raised with him back then.

This post is expanding on what we wrote to Jeanice Barcello as posted above:

They are BLIND SPOTS Capri...... there is no such thing as "individual law" and "universal", again this is "NAME" "individual law" and "NAME" "universal", implying "NAME" do no harm "uni-verse all law" and implying "NAME" "FREEDOM"

Remember the stuff we put up about phonetics: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203667898126064 (there are a few of the same post floating around, this is just one of them)

Universe = UNI - VERSE - ALL = brainwashing = blind spots.

Individual = In Divide U All = brainwashing = blind spots.

Uni = ONE = a combining form occurring in loanwords from Latin (universe ), used, with the meaning “one,” in the formation of compound words (unicycle ) - NOTICE THE WORD "LOAN-WORDS" MEANING NOT YOURS and CHOICE - THIS IS NOT FREEDOM.

Verse = metrical composition; poetry, especially as involving metrical form. a particular type of metrical line: a hexameter verse. a succession of metrical feet written, printed, or orally composed as one line; one of the lines of a poem. (not in technical use) a stanza. MEANING = CONTRIVED, MECHANICAL, PRE-DETERMINED = this is not freedom - this is CHOICE! You did not dream, invent and manufacture the car, you just learnt to drive and started driving it. Again, this is not freedom, this is choice.

All = the whole of (used in referring to quantity, extent, or duration): all the cake; all the way; all year. the whole number of (used in referring to individuals or particulars, taken collectively): all students. the greatest possible (used in referring to quality or degree): with all due respect; with all speed. every: all kinds; all sorts. any; any whatever: beyond all doubt. MEANING = ONE SHOE FITS ALL FOREVER = ONE SYSTEM (many system thoughts in one system = law - individual law, pure law, universal law and all other bullshit laws conjured up) - THIS IS ABSOLUTE - THIS IS ALL THE CHOICES YOU'VE GOT - THIS IS NOT FREEDOM!

Metrical = pertaining to meter or poetic measure. composed in meter or verse. pertaining to measurement. MEANING - RULES MADE UP BY SOMEONE ELSE - NOT YOU - Again, CHOICE - NOT FREEDOM!

Measurement = the act of measuring. a measured dimension. extent, size, etc., ascertained by measuring. a system of measuring or measures: liquid measurement. MEANING - THE ENCLOSURE - YOU CAN'T OPERATE/THINK OUTSIDE IT.

Unicycle = a vehicle with one wheel, especially a pedal-driven device kept upright and steered by body balance, commonly used by acrobats and other performers. - MEANING - YOU ONLY HAVE ONE OPTION = CHOICE - YOU ARE TRAPPED IN THE CYCLE OF THE UNI ---------- VERSE

In = (used to indicate inclusion within space, a place, or limits): walking in the park. (used to indicate inclusion within something abstract or immaterial): in politics; in the autumn. (used to indicate inclusion within or occurrence during a period or limit of time): in ancient times; a task done in ten minutes. (used to indicate limitation or qualification, as of situation, condition, relation, manner, action, etc.): to speak in a whisper; to be similar in appearance. (used to indicate means): sketched in ink; spoken in French. MEANING = Inside the enclosure, the word spells of "name" that imprison you, which all comes from education. You have had 20 years + experience of system thought to prepare you for the "name" words of Sacha, etc. Very few of us have original thoughts. This is all black magic in action, compelling you to perform under these word spells of "name".

Divid (in prescriptions) divide. In Latin, divid means divide

Divide = to separate into parts, groups, sections, etc. to separate or part from something else; sunder; cut off. to deal out in parts; distribute in shares; apportion. to cleave; part. to separate in opinion or feeling; cause to disagree: The issue divided the senators. MEANING = SEPARATION FROM DIRECT EXPERIENCE WITH NATURE = SEPARATION FROM WHO WE REALLY ARE AND WHAT WE ARE REALLY PART OF. Why else would you fight for the spells that Sacha is weaving? Blind spots keeping you blind to the "name" spells. All this is reaction to trauma.

U = You = the pronoun of the second person singular or plural, used of the person or persons being addressed, in the nominative or objective case: You are the highest bidder. It is you who are to blame. We can't help you. This package came for you. Did she give you the book? one; anyone; people in general: a tiny animal you can't even see. (used in apposition with the subject of a sentence, sometimes repeated for emphasis following the subject): You children pay attention. You rascal, you! Informal. (used in place of the pronoun your before a gerund): There's no sense in you getting upset. Archaic. a. yourself; yourselves: Get you home. Make you ready. b. a plural form of the pronoun ye. noun, plural yous. something or someone closely identified with or resembling the person addressed: Don't buy the bright red shirt—it just isn't you. It was like seeing another you. the nature or character of the person addressed: Try to discover the hidden you. MEANING = THE IDENTIFICATION OF THE HUE-MAN WITH THE "NAMES" OF "THE SYSTEM" - THE REFLECTION/SHADOWS OF YOU BOUNCING TO AND FRO BETWEEN THE EARS THAT IS NOT YOU.

All = REFER ABOVE

Individual = They divide us with their brainwashing of creed, culture, nation, etc, and rule us with the choices they provide us to perform "name" in "The System" - You did not create the English language with legalese, its mathematics, its geometry, its university courses & careers, titles, standings, etc, you did not create the education, religion, politics, law, Hollywood, TV, Media, Advertising, entertainment, supermarkets, highways, transport, corporations doing whatever, etc, etc, AND YOU DID NOT CREATE "NAME". They are all just choices provided for you. THIS IS NOT FREEDOM. See the post on the Mountain MAN charged and arrested with eating food in the forest because he was hungry: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203666156282519

You are seriously mistaking choice for freedom here. Choice has nothing to do with freedom. Shopping down the aisles of a supermarket is not freedom, it is choice, its ALL BEEN PROVIDED FOR YOU BY OTHERS = slaves/slavery.

What you are seeing is a BLATANT PSYOP PROGRAM where you have been hypnotised to perform to suggestion, to move to your master's command, all the while in a deep sleep.

The extensive brainwashing you have already been provided with is where you use your choice for imagining "individual law" or "universal law" and with it, "freedom". There is NO FREEDOM here. Only sheeple go through the gates of enclosures of one choice of green paddock to another but they have no freedom because they were already enclosed and forced by sheep dogs, etc, to move from one enclosure to another. Sheeple do the same thing when shopping down the isles of supermarkets or driving on roads to petrol stations, clothing shops, etc, etc......

IT IS ALL CHOICE - IT IS NOT FREEDOM

In fact, only sheeple are trapped in the UNI-VERSE-ALL that is ONE STORY going around and around and around their heads, bouncing to and fro as shadows/reflections of "name" "freedom", but this is a blatant lie because it was really only a choice already provided for them - they were already got at before they were duped into believing they had freedom within the story-telling of the uni-verse they are performing/believing in as "NAME" "FREEDOM".

Working together as a team effort around the home has NOTHING to do with universal or individual law. That is freedom when all first parties come to the table to co-create their uniqueness/originality for the team effort. NOTE: there are no third parties coming in-between any of them, telling them how to think, feel and act about anything. A MASSIVE DIFFERENCE HERE.

We need to be really vigilant and discerning about the blind-spots that are making a mess of our lives as we think/believe they are part of our true-freedom, when the FACT is, they were choices, and nothing more, meaning there is no freedom to be found there = YOU HAVE NO FREEDOM.

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We then posted all of the above on Ivana's thread and then posted this comment

Mark, please show us in all your work and in all Max's work, where you are providing freedom and not choice and that you are not providing the "names" of freedom and manipulating and using and abusing many, many people in the "name" of freedom, when it is only choice masquerading as freedom. How many curses are you manipulating into processing in the "name" of money as they react to trauma? You probably need to do some background work into what we are saying to comprehend fully what we are saying but, if you are really interested in truth and freedom for all, we assume that you will leave no stone unturned, in case you are on the wrong path. If you can't prove it and you won't change your ways, then who are you answerable to, who are you working for? Who is your master?

There are many INTEL agents out there spreading lies and causing people to get hurt in the process and there are also many, many people extremely angry about many, many things and some of them are vigilantes who have no problem carrying guns and using them. They have been reading our work, and the work of others who are putting out information that is waking people up to the truth of how people are being manipulated across the board. Many of them have been watching the scene for years and we have been asked to join them, which we will not do because we are not into violence. They have been harmed in various ways and those who are out there in front, leading the way in the psyop freedom/truth movement, as well as though associated with them, will be sitting ducks when the pressure cooker blows. For example, someone like Ivana could be a target if she is associated with you and associated with the INTEL networks that have caused so much harm to so many. Even Stephanie is a sitting duck, and all the others who support you. This is true healing that we are offering you here. Pull out, save your lives and stop the harm, stop the lying, stop the blatant manipulation. .

Our commitment is to wake people up to the real tactics and more and more people are waking up to how they have been used and abused. We don't think you guys realise the enormity of the backlash swelling against all INTEL.

This is Fiona and Arthur both writing in all these posts.

The Cristian Family November 2006

Part Two

Exposing Max Igan's Psyop Program


Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 31st May 2014

Link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203726940962098

Note: We will be copying across the whole Facebook thread into this post over the next 24 hours and will be found below in Part Two of the Facebook Discussion section.

Arthur & Fiona Cristian replied to Max Igan

Have just re-read one of your posts Max and we note with interest that apparently Mark McMurtrie came to visit us and hear our accusations face to face and Arthur ran off with his tail between his legs and never went after Mark again. Where did you get this info. from? We had a phone call with Mark who said he would call in and visit. We said he was welcome. He never came. This was posted on the website years ago and we have had many debates with him since and have continued to call him out as INTEL. You need to check your sources Max because right now you are sounding like News of the World. See the posts below for what was happening at the time and that Mark never showed up. Check the comments sections too, because there is relevant stuff there as well.

In Fighting Keeps Us Fighting
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
A Reply To Deb Regarding Mark McMurtrie
Love For Life - 13th May 2010
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7315

[Ab]originals Denied Self-Determination
An Invitation To Brave Souls
To Co-Create Community With
Clan On Traditional Land

Love For Life - 30th September 2010
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7469

A Facebook Discussion About OPPT
Involving Arthur & Fiona Cristian,
Chris Mansergh & Mark McMurtrie
Love For Life - 8th March 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8452

Address The Work

It is also interesting to note that your long post all about Arthur never once talks about the Love For Life work and where you can see problems with it, or where you think we are on the wrong track, and what you like about it and where you think it could be improved. NO MENTION whatsoever. So what do we conclude from this, especially as you have never addressed our work, only made stabs at Arthur, always leaving Fiona out of the picture, even though she is heavily involved and is writing this. Do we conclude that you cannot find fault with our work, the insights and remedy, but cannot be seen to be agreeing with it either so having a go is your only option? Or have you never read it so you do not have an opinion of it and so can only make stabs at Arthur in an attempt to turn people away from the work you know nothing about? Or do you not want to address our work,not bring attention to it, because it exposes psyop programs such as yours and if you address this, you have nowhere to go with your work except to take it all down and give everyone full disclosure as to the fact that your work was actually only leading them to continued enslavement.

Back Your Claims

We continually catch you out with the claims you make against us, Max, but you never clean up your act, just avoid it and carry on until the next opportunity to do it again. We notice that you always come in performing as a third party, never as first party, never with direct experience but with "all the answers" acting as a man with "standing" and "authority" on the subject. Vatican programming, eh? Can you prove that? Can you show us in the work, with clear examples of our writing, how the Vatican programming is operating and bring forward the written testimonials of victims who have been hurt by our work? And can you provide us with evidence as to when the Vatican programming occurred? And by whom? And how? And for how long? Do you even know what Vatican programming is or is it just one of those freedom/truther buzz words? And if it is a program, which version is it? Which update?

Can you give us evidence of Arthur's Vatican programming from our work? Can you show us and others what it is in our work that gives you evidence to back your claims? Please deconstruct it and show us how it applies. This is what we do with you Max; we point out where in your work you are leading people down the garden path, how you are doing it and the consequences of this. Our work is all about getting MAN back to being free on the land, taking full responsibility for his/her life and not having a system to answer to, of any sort, no OPPT, no Ubuntu, no Thrive, no "name"and not under our image power or the image power of anyone else. Can you show us the evidence of Vatican programming in this? How does this aim benefit the Vatican, which will be no more when we are free as MAN on the land? Can you answer these questions, Max?

We continue to expose the psyop programs running in your work with evidence and examples of your words and techniques. You don't/can't do this with our work. Why not? Can't you find fault in it? All you have is attacks on the MAN because you don't want to address the work.

Remember, we are not attacking Max , the MAN. We are attacking the psyop program that you are peddling. Just as when we address the brainwashing belief system of a man who claims to be a Christian, we are addressing the brainwashing that is running you. To help someone overcome their brainwashing, you have to help them comprehend the program and see the harm in it without hurting the MAN. Unfortunately, many people operating out of belief systems think that this is part of who they really are. We know that the NWO will come in on the back of "Good Guy" INTEL operatives peddling belief systems with no remedy, off the back of the reaction to trauma caused by the "Bad Guys" who all work for the same Grand Plan, that being the continuation of the enslavement of MAN to their systems.

We deconstruct the psyop programs running in your work and the work of Mark Darwin, made plain for all to see. We gave you the link and left you with a simple question to answer. See copy of post below. And you can't answer just yes or no. Why is that?

Is it because, if you answer yes, you have to completely change tack, take down all your work as being misleading and make an apology for having misled people all these years. Then you have to stop doing things the way you are doing them and start operating as a MAN of truth who leaves no stone unturned and will always go where the truth takes him, even if that means reading long posts by Arthur and Fiona. You have a background in exposing the harm of the "conspiracies" of "The System" and yet you cannot see the harm in your work where it is pointed out to you.

The many people who contact us and thank us for exposing the harm that we see, have often come through you, as well as David Icke, Jordan Maxwell and all the big "name" players of the freedom/truth movement. They are often in disbelief at how clever the psyop programs are and this is why we point out that the greatest lies and liars are the ones closest to the truth because they cause the greatest harm of all. Truth is pure white without any black or grey spots in it whatsoever.

How far are you prepared to go with this, Max? We have routed out plenty of harm from the early years of our work and will continue to do so if we find any more. Are you prepared to do this with your work? Are you prepared to go where the truth takes you?

More and more people are starting to rout out the grey now to get back to the pure, sincere, uncorrupted white, the true path of no harm which we will not compromise and which is no system and full responsibility, no passing the buck. Don't you live for this? If you do, why are you packaging our work as Vatican programming when you can see that the end result is Kindom, as clearly explained in our work in great detail, over and over again. If Vatican programming is no system, no education, no image power and returning to Kindoms where nature brings up our children and everyone has their unique dreams and thoughts, then Vatican programming is what we are peddling. LOLLLLLL

If you say no to the question we posed you and Mark Darwin, you are going to end up in the same spot as you are now because we will keep challenging you until you can back your claims with first party evidence. As we keep saying, we would welcome the opportunity to show you where in your work you are committing fraud and you can show us where you find fault in our work. Why don't you bring Mark McMurtrie, Kate of Gaia, Mark Darwin, Mark Pytellek and anyone else you want along too. It is not about getting on the Max Igan Radio Show because frankly we don't care whether you have us on your show or not. Why not do it independently on neutral ground, film it live for all to see?

If you are interested in "open discussion" why not have us on the radio show anyway. All your conditions have given you the perfect back door to never have us on the radio show because you can continue to protest that we haven't met your conditions, even though we are blue in the face from doing so!!!! This is more cat and mouse. If you want to have us on your radio show because you like to give all views a chance and are not afraid of open discussion going where the truth takes us, great. If you want us to fit into your boxes and perform to your conditions, we are not interested. Why don't you ask your listeners if they would like to have us on?

Or do as you put up in a post; take a drive down here and have a chat face to face. We have nothing to hide and nothing to be afraid of. You are welcome to visit and we will feed you good food and give you a place to sleep and treat the MAN with respect but we will not sit and nod our heads if we do not agree with what you say. We don't hate anybody and you are our brother, which is why we ignore your aggression, your name-calling and attempts to control how others think about us and our work. This is all just trauma, Max, controlled opposition, and what keeps us all apart.

Until we see you face to face, let us explain again the importance of comprehending the difference between third party information and first party information.

The Conflict Of First Party And Third Party

We will go into this so that it is fully explained and we can show you how you create conflict. We are showing you first party evidence of your complicity with third party tactics and what we do is show people how this works so that they learn to recognise when they are being smooth talked by system shepherds/shills and when conflict is being created that makes them unsure and puts doubt into their thoughts so that they feel helpless and powerless and need someone else to tell them what to do and how to think, feel and act, leading them down the Yellow Brick Road to the Land of Oz where they and all their ancestors have been for many generations, trapped in "The System", under the traumatic spells of the psyop programs.

You refer to Arthur as a "spell master". Well, we know a fair amount about the codes of the English language, the phonetics, etymology and cryptography, and we have learned how the psyop programs derived from these constructs (image power) are used as man-made demons (thought forms/non-sensory make believe images) to compel MAN to perform the e-motion of the makers intention. This is all about trauma and reaction to that trauma, which is the spell. The demon is actually the trauma, no different to the software program that controls the performance of the robot.

Over the years, we have made it very clear that we do not "spell" and we are not "spellers" because we don't write in third party to re-present a first party because this is then a psyop program of the "spell" set into motion by the victims who are never provided with full disclosure of the deceit. If we did do this, it would be clear evidence of fraud and lying in plain sight, which would then beggar the question as to our motives. You won't find this in our work but we see this deception all through your work and the work of Kate, Mark Darwin, etc. All of it is blatant "spelling" = psyop programs = hypnosis/hypnotic suggestions = a drone's program set into motion.

We don't have another language to communicate apart from the English language but we work very hard to let people know that the English language is a fraud and a deceiver and to let our writing show the intention behind what we write. The English language is a third party in itself because it has been put into our heads by other men and women, all third parties. People who have lies in their thinking and their beliefs cannot help those lies creeping through in their words, sentences and paragraphs because they are relying on falsehoods here, whether innocently or not, and so these is what are set into motion through their writing.

While we are stuck with this language, we have to use our senses to sense the intention of the writer behind the words. This is why we go to so much trouble to write in a way that makes our intentions as clear as possible, and why we get such a huge response from people who are waking up to the third party "spelling".

Just look at the post you have written about Arthur. It is all third party information of your dreaming that has nothing to do with reality. Anyone who came and had a first party experience with us would find it very hard to relate the Arthur they met and talked to with the version of Arthur in your third party re-presentation of Arthur. Are you not trying to put doubts about Arthur and the work we do into peoples heads without any evidence or examples to back your claims? Is this not your intention?

This is what the NWO INTEL operation is all about. Previously the programs put the "fear of God" into people but, with the downturn of "spelling" religion, other ways to create doubt, fear, uncertainty and distrust are in operation because if this e-motional conflict exists in their thinking and dreaming, they are easily manipulated because they are not fully conscious and do not see the harm in creating their lives out of this kind of thinking. There are plenty of e-motional blind spots for the INTEL operatives to slip in behind the black curtains of the e-motion and mislead people through stealth.

If you train a horse through harsh, painful methods, the horse is always under the power of the fear that you have created in the horse. In the same way, if people are manipulated into fear and trauma, they are always under the pull of that e-motion which acts as a form of domination. This is why we say beware of those who peddle aggression and violence the way Kate does, and what you have done in threatening to come down "do it the old fashioned way, man to man". You are threatening physical violence, which is never the answer to anything. Or were you suggesting having a hug and a laugh?

Imposing Your Image Power

Max, we expose DARKNESS VISIBLE. Let's delve a little deeper into your use of third party constructs.....

Let's start here - Use SENSE (1st party) and NOT NON-SENSE (3rd party).

The idea of freedom is third party (non-sense). You were pushing OPPT, Ron Paul, Universe, Planet, etc, etc, which is all about 3rd party, not first party. There is no direct experience. Any remedy or dealings in law is also third party. We got caught up in the law stuff too, but we dropped it when we realised that you can't force someone under another's image power, which you have to do when teaching people about legal "remedy", etc.

A child brought up on nature never thinks of the "idea" of freedom because he/she already is free. He/she does not have "not free" in his/her consciousness so freedom is never an idea not in his/her life. For them to comprehend the construct that is the idea of freedom, they have to be already enslaved, already a victim of system brainwashing.

The whole of "The System" is about forcing men and women under someone else's image power, third party explanations about everything of their relationship with everything so that we are always looking through the eyes of another MAN, never learning through direct experience, first party to first party, and where has that got us?

It is impossible to create "The System" without doing this, be it through overt or covert means.

We are all unique and original, not one the same as the next, each to our own skin, so how can we all be forced under the same image, third party?

If you comprehend this and you are who you are and we are who we are, why did you try to impose your image power, third party, over us, first party, and Anastasia, first party, by claiming that you knew what happened between Arthur and Anastasia when you were not present as a first party? This is blatant evidence of you acting as a third party impostor of Anastasia and Arthur and setting off the conflict through your storytelling as an impostor in the performance of Arthur and Anastasia to set doubt in the brains of all those who were reading the posts. (Link below)

There was no first party evidence coming forward to back your claims and this scenario is common throughout "The System", where people tell stories about other people, even though they have no first party experience of what they are talking about. This is more examples of third party explanations and explanations so that we are always experiencing the programming of the intentions behind the psyop programming that sets the duped down the road that the master manipulators have determined for them. We do to a lot of trouble to expose these tactics and you call this Vatican programming.

To us, the controversy you tried to create around the first parties to the direct experience, Arthur and Anastasia, was a blatant attempt by you acting as a third party to discredit us by introducing doubt into your performance of Arthur and Anastasia and making it out as if that performance was coming from us, from our dreams and intentions when the fact is, you made it all up as a third party and have never apologised for doing so, or made whole with anyone who may have been affected by those posts. Were you concerned that what we were sharing would cause harm and damage in people's lives? This leads to the question; Do you practice black magic? Are you psychic? Do you have an all-seeing-eye? Are you trained to remote view, remote project and remote control?

Remember you have full responsibility to maintain honesty, integrity and sincerity because you have a large influence on public thinking, as we do, and this was carried out in the public arena in the "name" of Max Igan and the "names" of Arthur and Anastasia and, by association, Fiona.

This is clear evidence of fraud and lying and using your hypnotic, persuasive influence to carry it out. WHAT MORE EVIDENCE DO YOU WANT? This is in plain sight. This is DARKNESS VISIBLE. Senses, direct experiences, do not lie, though anyone can twist the story of a direct experience. If you weren't trying to discredit us, why bring any of this up when you don't even know us or live with us? What gave you the reason to do this? Fair enough to say if you don't know if it is true or not, but coming out and attacking us is a different ball game. To us, it is clear that you tried to use your influence to discredit us. Does not a priest or a politician try to influence his flock? This is also slander.

Before we move on, we already explained all your claims of us "backstabbing" you in the post below so we suggest you go back over it because you are still trying to influence people e-motionally about this. As we explained, many people over the years have asked us privately for our opinion of you and we have told them that you support "The System" and have no remedy to offer that gets us all out of "The System" forevermore. From the Australian Constitution to Ron Paul to the OPPT. It's all system stuff leading to more systems. No freedom on offer.

Max Igan & The Fraud Of The OPPT
(One Peoples Public Trust)

Facebook Discussion With Arthur & Fiona Cristian
17th to 19th February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8357
Do a search inside this pageboy for this
"Max, in private, to people who rang us asking about our opinions, views, insights,"
to find the post where we explained this "backstabbing you" claim/non-sense.

It's All In Your Work

We expose the lies in your work because we show all the third party constructs that you cannot back because you cannot bring forward first party evidence that they exist. And when we ask you about it, you do not want to talk and nor does anyone else spouting third party rhetoric. If you were a MAN of truth, would you not leave no stone unturned in your search for truth and stand for that? And if you comprehend the third party/first party situation, why haven't you stopped doing it and stopped the lies you are spreading. But you haven't. So why do you continue along this path? If you do not have an agenda that is NOT truth, why do you keep going on the path of not truth, meaning why do you keep pushing third party constructs and making them out to be true? If you are a man of integrity, why aren't you going after people who are spreading third party lies as imposters, many of whom you openly support. If you have been innocent of this until now because you haven't read the posts where we explain this to you, fair enough, but, if you have read the work where we set out what you are doing, then you have no excuse unless you can show us clearly where we are wrong in what we say.

When anyone acts as a third party, it creates a conflict in people who have not worked out the difference between third party/first party and they get easily manipulated. When we put out a video explaining that this is the universe and this happened and that happened, it creates a conflict in those who believe this. If we bring up a child in nature having direct, first party experiences with life forms, there is no conflict because the child is getting their information directly from first parties. There is nothing to believe or disbelieve. This is very different between a man getting in between a man and a man or a man and nature and acting as a third party impostor of a first party between them.

The whole purpose of exposing the lies is to wake up to how we fall for them and setting each other free from each other, and to show people how they are being manipulated so they learn to recognise the tactics and free their lives from the consequences of those tactics. We are so used to the storytelling coming from third parties programming our lives that we are drawn to this spelling and easily manipulated by people such as David Icke and you who are trained in storytelling techniques. It is like being in the movies and having a script to follow. We no longer remember how to have original, first party thoughts and dreams.

We work so hard to break the spells because most people are sedated by the storytelling of people with influence over "public" thinking. We have never grown up from having people read us fairy tales. The scene has changed but the same tactics still apply with the "grown up" fairy tales being full of money, Oneness, aliens, ownership, and all system-based thought. The duality tactics continue; as in the fairy tale, as in real life. Throw in the trauma and you have created a slave to do your bidding while you manipulate their trauma to have them continue to create the outcomes you desire in the prison of the psyop program. Tavistock reigns supreme.

The Freemasonic/Satanic world operates by stealth, trickery and sleight of hand. There is no full disclosure of their intentions and agendas and outcomes. They like to keep their darkness out of sight and what we do is make that darkness visible for all to see. You know this to be true because you have been talking about this sort of thing for years, and now, here we are, pointing out the trickery and sleight of hand in your work.

Notice that we do not attack you the MAN, because it is in your work that the harm is being done.

Darkness Created

Why do we keep going on about third party and first party? Because the difference between the two is the difference between living in "The System" of hell or living in Paradise. As we have said before, if we tell you that the life form over there is a daffodil and is yellow and you place this third party information over the life form that you see, you are shutting down your senses that can give you a direct first party experience with that life form so that you can access all the information the life form has to offer you. Placing third party information over the first party information of the life form is placing the "illumined light" of darkness (non-sense) over the sensory light of our creation. This is what we are doing with all the constructs of "The System" that we learn about through the journey of our system lives, especially through our system education. What we are really being taught is the craft of spreading darkness and the craft of disconnecting our lives from the dream of life that is who we really are and what we are really part of.

Imagine a child dreamed for and created by loving parents and brought up in nature having direct first party experiences with all the life forms of life around. A child brought up in this way will have no vagary, no doubt in his thinking because there are no third parties, other men and women, putting ideas in his head about what he is sensing about the life forms he interacts with and causing him to doubt the information he is receiving directly from the life form. His thoughts about what he senses are clear and he is free to create unique original dreams that do no harm to life. He will have no thoughts about free because he is already living free and does not have to fit into the one-shoe-fits-all "freedom" of system constructs.

When we introduce system education that brings a whole world of third party constructs into the child's head, everything becomes cloudy. He can no longer trust his senses because the constructs and concepts he is being taught are non-sensory; they cannot be sensed by the child because they are nothing to do with life/Earth/nature that is who the child is and that he can sense because they are sensory. He now has to fit into the boxes of his education, including whether he is a man or a woman rather than just MAN. He becomes a living MAN being forced to go through a shattered reality, going from the perfection of the wholeness of creation to the millions of third party stereotypes the child must fit into to make non-sense of his life and everything around him.

The child has no direct experience with any of the third party constructs that make up the world that is "The System". They have no connection with who he is and as his brain is filled with more and more constructs through constant repetition, the child loses connection with the sensory information of life as his senses are deafened by the memorised constructs bouncing to and fro between his ears. Adrift from consciousness, and with no clear direction in his thinking, the child becomes dependent on the constructs that are the thoughts and ideas of other men and women and learns to live a life of limited liability because all the information that his head has been filled with is telling him how to think, feel and act. There are no longer unique, original thoughts and dreams in his head and those who created the thoughts in his head have all the power over him. As in the fairy tales of shattered reality, as in real life.

Just a year ago Max, you were promoting OPPT as being the real deal which is just more of the lies of a shattered reality. What we are asking for is to be left alone, all of us, so that we can get back to co-creating our real lives with unique, original do no harm thoughts and dreams, and you call this a Vatican program. When people go to freedom workshops, they are already shattered and when they leave, they are still shattered because the Tavistock program continues. They are continuing their enslavement to the shattered reality because they don't know how else to be. This is what Mark Darwin, Mark Pytellek and others are making money out of. We cannot educate others into freedom!

If you can imagine a large sheet of glass being shattered into many, many tiny pieces and each of those pieces being a fairytale for us to build our system lives with. We end up with a life made up of many, many bits and pieces, none of them unique and original to us, all of it imposed upon us. Thus we remain under the "spell" of all these pieces, too full of doubts and fear to be able to make sense of what is going on around us and what has happened to us. Our first party relationship with nature has been shattered which means that our consciousness of who we are has been shattered.

What we are about is exposing the lies of the shattered realities, which means exposing all the third party thoughts and dreams in our heads. We help people wake up to the source of the shattered reality and get back to nature where we can begin to put the pieces back together. All the conflict, the harm and the chaos comes out of the shattered reality; someone's idea of God over another's idea of God, the idea of freedom, of how to live with each other. People cannot be boxed under an idea of freedom. There is no freedom in this!

There is nowhere to solve this problem in "The System". All we can do is roll our sleeves up, heal the damage, learn to love without harm and set out children free in nature where they will not learn about ownership or limitations or limited liability. A child living with full responsibility is a truly free child.

The shattered reality is the darkness created.

Falling For The Lies

Cults, sects and religions come about because people are so used to other men and women telling them how too think, feel and act throughout their childhood that they look for people to tell them how to think, feel and act when they are adults. This is how we are easily manipulated and cannot sense that we are being fed lies that maintain and support "The System" that has no purpose other than to keep us enslaved to its makers and leave us open to falling for the next wave of constructs coming through, even though we may have become aware of the older ones. This is the ONLY way they can manipulate us. If we were all thinking clearly from our direct first party experiences and our unique, original thoughts, we would see the constructs for the lies they are and refuse to let them into our thinking.

This is why we always warn people about the spells of the English language and ask them not to believe what we are saying but to work things out for themselves. We cannot tell people how to be free. We can show them how they are being manipulated into slavery and provide them with a remedy to step out of "The System" so that they can then contemplate and work things out, re-learning how to trust their senses and have the direct experiences with consciousness so that they remember who they really are and begin to create their unique, original lives as co-creators of the dream of life. Our challenge is to come together and set each other free from each other's image power. This is healing the shattered reality. The way most of us think now, we just look for someone else to tell us how to think, feel and act when we see through the lies of the last man or woman we relied on to tell us how to think, feel and act. "The System" teaches us to be dependent on the judge, the politician, the local council, David Icke, Sacha Stone, or whoever to tell us how to lead our system lives.

This pull between our senses trying to connect us with consciousness again and all the alien system thoughts crashing around our brains is what causes the conflict in our bodies and in our thoughts and feelings. It is what confuses us and has us unable to distinguish between the pure white of truth and consciousness and the black and grey shades added to truth to mislead us. It is the conflict between us being present in present sense to creation and someone else putting thoughts in your head that are reflections of creation that we cannot sense in present sense but only memorise to keep them echoing between the ears.

The freedom/truth movement is going nowhere because instead of people painting the picture of their unique original freedom that comes from relationships inspired by co-creating with nature without doing harm to anyone else, they are being manipulated into painting a picture with grey and black in it that are the ideas of freedom and are not freedom. This ties them to the intentions behind the grey and black that are to keep people enslaved and easily manipulated so that they accept whatever remedy is offered to them because they still haven't learnt to take full responsibility for their lives.

INTEL Operation New World Order

To us, it is very clear that the NWO is being brought in by an Earth-Wide Intel Operation performing Psyop Programs that stretch right back to when the Bible was first crafted into practice and continued on through the "self-fulling" prophecy of its projected "business plan", recorded in code in the Bible, and concluding shortly with its planned "end-times".

There are many recruited from "The System" music and film industries and all other enterprises, who now work as Intel. Collectively through the storytelling of their Psyop Programming, as first parties committing fraud, they are casting an interweaving net of complex, overlaying 3rd party re-presentations (con-structs/con-cepts/storytelling) that are blatant lies, used to con and trap the duped into the enslavement of a make-believe "freedom" performance of those lies, to construct the NWO prison out of their "own" making.

This performance is the continuation of "The System" under another feel good/god, cosmic-galactic, oneness consciousness guise led out front by the "Good Guys", who are all Intel wolves dressed in lambs clothing. What a scam this all is. We have been around long-enough to SENSE and completely trust what we sense without being blinded by the "illuminated light" derived from belief, faith and associated opinion in the storytelling of 3rd party re-presentations, all of it rooted in trauma and reaction to trauma. The behaviour of many of these wolves is carefully crafted to maintain the trauma, hence a lot of the aggression thrown out to anyone who dares to deconstruct what they are saying. The trauma is the invisible rope that binds us to "The System", even while we think we are thinking freedom! Reaction to trauma is what is pulling everyone towards the NWO. This is the only way they can pull it off. Refer to posts such as 'The Pull of E-Motion" for more on this.

There is no manual freely available anywhere across Earth that explains how the psyop programming works. It is DARKNESS INVISIBLE. This is where our work comes in - we are bringing the psyop programs into PLAIN SIGHT to make DARKNESS VISIBLE through what we expose, even though many hate us for it. Funny how those who think they long for freedom hate those showing them the door!

We are all unique and original and cannot become free by conforming to the image power of another MAN, which is what is happening with all the "Good Guy" shepherds beckoning to those yearning to escape "The System" but with too much doubt in their thinking to realise their free-will-power to live freedom day by day, step by step.

The Supermarket Of Choice

"Freedom" the system way is always through third parties and make-believe third party con-structs/con-cepts. It is like a supermarket where we can make a choice of whatever type of "freedom" we are allowed within "The System", not realising that the choices of "freedom" have been set up by the INTEL networks whose job it is to keep everyone trapped in "The System". They do not want men and women to have their unique and original dreams of freedom and do no harm set into motion in their lives because, once this happens, "The System" where they gain all their power, control, glory, privileges, etc, is no more. Hence the INTEL networks go out of their way to feed our doubt in our ability to be free, doubt about our relationships with each other and with nature/earth and doubt that we can do without "The System" supermarket, spoon-fed "freedom". We live to remove all doubt and cause a mass exodus out of "The System" in this life.

All the conflict bouncing to and fro between our ears is derived from doubt, distrust and uncertainty.

Third party constructs are not the unique creations of the men and women thinking and feeling them and, while they are thinking and feeling them, they are cloaking who they are in this illumined darkness. This is what happens to the men and women who attend freedom workshops and have someone else's freedom constructs superimposed over the unique men and women they are. They do not get freedom from these workshops, only choice, as we explained in the post about you and Mark Darwin, see https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203677889935853 The only way they can create true freedom in their lives is if they create it in present sense without anyone interfering or putting doubt into their heads about what they are doing, instead supporting and encouraging them. Freedom starts in our thinking and spreads out into the practical steps of creating freedom from "The System" back to freedom in nature.

As soon as someone else starts telling them how to be free, they are putting their lives under the image power of that man or woman and, while they are under someone else's image power, they can never be free. All the freedom/truth movement is offering people is another aisle in the supermarket of "The System" where they have a range of freedom/truth choices to choose from. True freedom is nowhere to be seen, just as real food is not to be found in the supermarket aisles of "The System", even though there are many choices of stuff pretending to be food.

Look For The First Parties

The freedom truth movement is full of men and women peddling third party information and third party remedies. Again, if you are not sure of the difference, just look for the first parties present. Christians claim that God is the almighty father; can they bring forward this authoritarian God to back their claims? People claim that the photo on the driver's licence is them; can the photo come forward and confirm this? We are so used to the complicated, convoluted system way of complicating everything so that the truth is veiled in a fog of non-sense information, that it is sometimes hard to realise that things really are this simple. Trust what your senses are telling you through direct experience with first parties, even if third party system science or religion have a very long, complicated explanation as to why your senses are wrong and why you cannot trust them.

The freedom/truth movement is full of men and women acting as impostors of a freedom (the thought of freedom is not freedom) over other men and women by claiming that their story telling of a freedom is the story of freedom when this is a BLATANT LIE.

How can you re-present another MAN and have the MAN still be unique and original? You can't, it is impossible. Hijacking other people's information to impersonate as your "own" creations is all about creating conflict and all about limited liability and nothing to do with full responsibility. If you make an animal dependent on you for food, you have taken its freedom to be what it naturally is in nature away. You have changed its purpose. If you make a MAN dependent on you for freedom information, you can be sure that he doesn't have freedom!

Even thinking about freedom tells us that we are slaves. If you continue thinking about freedom, you are still a slave. A free man doesn't think about being free. He/she just is free.

With all of these movements/shepherds, everything is in the "name". It is not naturally expressed and lived in/of the MAN. It is the "name" Max Igan in the "name" of freedom, the "name" Mark Darwin" in the "name" of freedom, the "name" OPPT in the "name" of Freedom, in the "name" of Arthur and Fiona Cristian in the "name" of freedom. These are all shadows/reflections bouncing to and fro between the victims ears and they are all the blind spots keeping victims under control and pliant.

Hijacking With Image Power

The black magic priests/priestesses behind "The System" are always on the lookout to infiltrate and counteract any genuine attempts to gain freedom from their power and control so they hijack any movements that come along. An example of this is the controversy over the Ringing Cedars books where Vladimir Megre ended up removing the rights from the English publishers who he felt were not re-presenting his work as he wished it to be presented. There is much speculation as to whether the books were the same as the originals and whether they have been altered. That aside, we can see one very clear sign of the priests of "The System" imprinting their darkness over the information being shared.

Disregarding the writing for now, the fact that the covers were changed to BLACK does not seem to re-present the intentions of Vladimir and Anastasia; there is no living nature set to the background of darkness and that's because darkness does NOT exist. The sun casts no shadow. There is no darkness even at "night" as can be seen by the fact that we can see all the celestial bodies, even after the "firmament" was terribly damaged and collapsed destroying vast parts of Earth and filling up ALL the low-lands across Earth to become ALL the oceans and seas, etc.

Everything of celestial space and bodies was hanging over MAN through the firmament (water of MANS breath expanding and holding the dreams of MANS creation), so say many tribal people as passed down through word of mouth from their ancestors and alternative archeologists and scientists. Anastasia and our ancestors could literally touch the stars because they are not limited by time and space constructs the way we are. Their speed of thought is greater, is unlimited, is unrestricted.

We can still see/sense ALL the celestial bodies, even though our communication with them is limited by the priests image power of "time" and "space" that puts everything into lineal thought (confined reality = shut-down-MAN)) because that is what we are projecting/dreaming as being true, who we think we really are, when all we are doing is putting our life force energy into apparitions to corrupt MANS dreaming in PRESENT-SENSE.

Slowing The Thinking

Anastasia talks about the speed of thought and how the priests needed to slow down MANS speed of thought in order to have control over MAN. The priests needed their speed of thought to be faster than MANS so that they could remain one step ahead all the time. Inventing the constructs of "time" and "space" is one of the confining methods they have used to slow down our speed of thought because, when we believe in "time" and "space" and a lineal reality, through their offering of education, we are in the confines of this apparition that becomes the rules of engagement of our whole lives with creation. Consciousness is shut out and we are prisoners in present-sense, to the fantasies that rule us as demons. Absorbed by this kind of thinking, we are no longer conscious of present sense and therefore unable to expand consciousness wherever we dream to expand it to. We have become birds with clopped wings.

Added to this is the fact that we are looking at the celestial bodies through the influence of all the third party storytelling (prosthetics) such as astronomy, system science, quantum physics, astrology, numerology/mathematics/geometry that we are subjected to from very young, shutting out all the information of consciousness (wisdom) that the celestial bodies (our ancestors) have to offer us.

This is the darkness of the covers of these compromised books. This is in plain sight. DARKNESS VISIBLE. Can you not see/sense the imprint of the priests intentions on these books carried out by all the lackeys who are still under the influence of the priests dreaming that they follow, that being the Freemasonic/Satanic world? This is all done through remote control, remote projection and remote viewing which means that the English distributors were under the influence of these black magic warlocks and witches to make the covers black. Someone has put these ideas in their heads.

MANS speed of thought is greater than all of this, if we are prepared to let go of all these demons. Our consciousness can shift anywhere throughout the dream of life in an instant but we have to let go of all the apparitions and not use them as a means of engagement with creation all around us. We are dealing with MANS dreaming here - nothing else is going on.

BUT the third party, dark-side of MANS dreaming wants to create a darkness through MANS projection of darkness as the combined force of all the apparitions the priests dream for us to set into motion to become the limited tools of our dreaming so that ALL celestial bodies (ancestors) cannot be seen/sensed anymore through our senses. Instead we look at the celestial bodies through non-sense, the apparitions/demons/constructs/concepts, projecting darkness over these creations, over them, because we are rejecting and forsaking them. We are disconnecting from the wisdom of our ancestors. What better way to control MAN than to capture our children in this educated, third party darkness?

To us, the celestial bodies are the consciousness of our ancestors creating the dreams of their lives as those celestial bodies through the water of their breath, the very water that makes us who we are and which we add to with our breath and what we dream. Remember, all our ancestors could "fly with the stars" and that's because the "stars" are the dreaming of MANS creation of the dream of life. We are creators.

Can you comprehend that if enough of us dream of this darkness, we will shut out the living dream from an absolute darkness in our image that will envelope all of MAN, leading us to total oblivion as we shut out all of life all around us? This is the third party instruction of spiritual suicide. Such is the power of our free-will. The strength of this third party, suicidal dreaming is the cause of so much unhappiness and lack of fulfillment in "The System" First party connection makes you feel alive and joyful. Third party disconnection makes you feel empty and sad. The dream of the freedom/truth has not been created naturally. The freedom/truth movement is not natural.

The Ringing Cedars books aside, Max, this explains why we are so swift to point out third party darkness when we see it. It is all the third party non-sense imposed upon us that cloaks us in darkness and keeps us confused and doubtful of our power to co-create the dream of life, co-creating light rather than re-presenting darkness. This is why so much harm is being done in the freedom truth movement when choice is re-presented as freedom and when man and women are left doubting their own ability to create light because of the constructs imposed upon them so that they go with the constructs that only create darkness.

Third party darkness is the illumined light in the dark cave that is "The System". People flock to the "light" oblivious to the fact that it is just a form of darkness and that the cave wall are still strong surrounding them. No one involved in this scam is going to make it because they cannot escape the consequences of MAN falling into third party darkness. The more MAN departs the dream of life, the more the dream of life departs from MAN until there is no more life in MAN and MAN/life is no more. This is the price we all pay for the actions of all those INTEL shepherds keeping us in the darkness. We work to stop this darkness from spreading to stop the annihilation caused by our focus on anti-life, removing life out of life which only happens when we deprive MAN of first party, direct experience with nature. There are no winners in this.

What Is Your Intention

If you are sincere in your desire to help people, you need to be honest with them, just as Mark Darwin and all the rest need to be honest about the consequences of following the third party work you and they promote. For example, does Mark Darwin explain to people that when they follow his methods, they are putting their lives under his image power and that his methods are all system based and have nothing to do with getting out of "The System", even though they think they are getting protection in "The System" and "freedom" from some of the obligations of "The System"? Does Mark tell them that a piece of paper cannot stand against the full force of the British Empire and that a trust or foundation does nothing in the face of this force and that trusts and foundations come from THEIR system and THEIR law and that they can and do change the rules of THEIR playing field as and when they want to? Does he tell them that they are paying him for not telling them of the consequences that will arise down the line? And we know that they do arise because we have heard from and helped many, many people who have experienced those consequences. Do you, Max, explain to people that while they may learn a lot from your work about how "The System" works and all the things wrong with "The System", nothing about their system slave lives will change because all there is is talk and no action, no practical, every day steps to free their thoughts, feelings and lives from system brainwashing? Do you tell people this?

If you were sincere about helping people to extricate their lives from "The System", all the focus of your work would be to help people see the practical, day to day steps they can take to create the food forests and the communities that give us independence from "The System" and from being underneath each other. Instead of educating people about freedom, we need to work together to take care of the land so that each of us have direct, first party experience with nature all around as we help each other. Through this direct experience and full responsibility for land, they lose the pull of e-motion to system ties and begin to be able to wean their lives away from system prosthetics, especially if they are raw food eaters. As they reconnect with the land, so they naturally reconnect with freedom and peace.

This Kindom remedy is the ONLY one we have come across that will work because every other so-called remedy we have seen promoted is always within "The System" and third party based. If a federation-type, global leadership comes into power, we will be witnessing the final capitulation of MAN to third party darkness that spreads across Earth as the greatest man-made apocalypse ever. Only a very few of us will make it and they will be those who are so conscious that the darkness will not come upon them. They will know where to be when the "time" comes. The end times games have got to stop.

Max: remember when you were pushing the OPPT and saying that it was the real McCoy and refusing to listen to any evidence that it is not? We won't go into it here because it is all available for those who want to read it in the links provided below, but this brings us back to freedom workshops and Mark Darwin.

They do not work and they are not a remedy. Freedom is not the intellectualised thought of freedom, which is what you keep promoting. Again, refer to the post on Mark Darwin and you. You cannot put the idea of freedom in someones head and tell them that this is freedom. So why are you doing freedom workshops that teach people about the idea of freedom?

While you keep promoting third party constructs and failing to bring forward first parties to support your claims, you are part of the problem, not part of the remedy.

Reminder To Answer The Question

Max; below we have copied the questions we wrote to Mark asking for clarification of some points. They have yet to be answered. In this post, we are clearly showing the psyop program at work and we have also clearly set it out in other posts. Either you do not read our work, in which case how can you have an opinion about it, or you are in denial of what you read. We always write as clearly as possible and your intellectual prowess is surely more than capable of comprehending what we explain. And if it is not, how about asking for more clarification?

Link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203677889935853

Mark, please show us in all your work and in all Max's work, where you are providing freedom and not choice and that you are not providing the "names" of freedom and manipulating and using and abusing many, many people in the "name" of freedom, when it is only choice masquerading as freedom. How many curses are you manipulating into processing in the "name" of money as they react to trauma? You probably need to do some background work into what we are saying to comprehend fully what we are saying but, if you are really interested in truth and freedom for all, we assume that you will leave no stone unturned, in case you are on the wrong path. If you can't prove it and you won't change your ways, then who are you answerable to, who are you working for? Who is your master?

There are many INTEL agents out there spreading lies and causing people to get hurt in the process and there are also many, many people extremely angry about many, many things and some of them are vigilantes who have no problem carrying guns and using them. They have been reading our work, and the work of others who are putting out information that is waking people up to the truth of how people are being manipulated across the board. Many of them have been watching the scene for years and we have been asked to join them, which we will not do because we are not into violence. They have been harmed in various ways and those who are out there in front, leading the way in the psyop freedom/truth movement, as well as though associated with them, will be sitting ducks when the pressure cooker blows. For example, someone like Ivana could be a target if she is associated with you and associated with the INTEL networks that have caused so much harm to so many. Even Stephanie is a sitting duck, and all the others who support you. This is true healing that we are offering you here. Pull out, save your lives and stop the harm, stop the lying, stop the blatant manipulation. .

Our commitment is to wake people up to the real tactics and more and more people are waking up to how they have been used and abused. We don't think you guys realise the enormity of the backlash swelling against all INTEL.

This is Fiona and Arthur both writing in all these posts.

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A Spell Master At Work
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
21st April 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8401

The Continuation Of The Max Igan Saga
21st August 2013
Facebook Discussion With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8478

The Cristian Family November 2006

Part Three

Facebook Conversation/Debate With Stephen
Aka Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone
Regarding Psyop Programs

Link: https://www.facebook.com/hisroyalslyness.gozaimasustone/posts/7554908411...

Arthur Cristian

Russell said: "Thank you Arthur for the expended effort to respond to the three of us in question. As expected, because of our collective demonic crap that you're suggesting, we were always going to be wrong. I cant figure out if you're a genius or a comic, perhaps both. Mate, you may as well befriend me/us, as we, including those who oppose your views and opinions, are not as switched on to the "ABSOLUTE" like Arthur Cristian. Well done. Good luck. You da man!!!!"

We replied...........

The reflections in the mirror of you are the storytelling of all the books, pictures, words, letters you have been exposed to in your role as "NAME" in "The System".

They form the story of Russell the "NAME" but that is not who you really are, the living MAN Russell.

You didn't create any of them and you didn't create the trauma that rules you, the distorted life-force-energy of non-sensory images bouncing to and fro between the ears of all these unnatural stories that you are unwilling to let go of.

Collectively they form the e-go, the demon, that is "NAME", Russell, the reflection of Russell the MAN in the mirror, and all this collective storytelling, the belief systems, becomes the act of the demon, the impostor, performing as Russell the MAN. But Russell the MAN is not with us, only the "NAME" Russell is.

When the "NAME" Russell comes onto this wall and posts what he does, it is not Russell the MAN, just the demons that are the spells of all the storytelling spinning around in his head that form his belief systems and have the "NAME" Russell fight and argue for them to protect and validate them to give them power with the MAN Russell's life-force-energy.

This is all the demon has to offer; there is nothing else there. This performance is a façade, is a farce. They are are just the shadows and reflections of the MAN Russell the demon has claimed as its "own"...... mine, mine, mine, "i", "i", "i", etc, etc, etc.......

How can we say this?

Only the MAN Russell can come forward to act the storytelling of the "NAME" Russell but none of the characters in the stories of these belief systems, the "spells", can come forward as sensory-living-first parties.

This shows you the depth of demonic possession in the "NAME" of the MAN Russell.

And the other thing to notice is that the virtues of love of the MAN Russell are not present amongst the living having been pushed aside because the demon of the "NAME" Russell is in performance and the demon has nothing to do with the virtues of love, of light, of the MAN Russell. If it was, the MAN Russell would come forward as a simple MAN of truth, peace, love, sincerity, purity of intention, etc, etc, without weakness and without fear of confronting lies and liars. You see/sense, the MAN Russell is not of the darkness, only the "NAME" Russell is.

The way to break the "spells" is by learning not to set the "spells" into motion, by recognising that the pull of e-motion, the reaction to trauma, is the "spell", the "rite", the "demon" on offer needing your life-force-energy to give it power. Ignore these temptations, do something else creative where you can set your life-force-energy into motion to benefit the dream of life, nature, earth, MAN, without doing harm to MAN, earth, nature, like gardening, playing with children, going for a walk in nature or have a swim, etc, etc, anything that co-creates happy, bright, thoughts, etc.

Eventually the habit is far more powerful and as you have learnt to completely ignore the demon it eventually fades away to be no more.

What you have learnt to do is stop being self-centred. The reflections of e-motions, the reactions to trauma, bouncing to and fro between your ears is not you, it is the demon acting as the impostor of you as "NAME" and everything associated with "NAME" is of the demonic world that is "The System" of HELL too. Once you have overcome this challenge, you have welcomed paradise back into your life where it has always been. We've just been asleep while the demons, the reflection/s in the mirror of you, run amok.

11th May 2014 at 22:02

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Mark DuBois

Come on, let's really be honest here. faKebook is the demon and we're all addicted to it. None of us stand for jack shit, settle for petty agendas, love to bitch, support making Zuck a billionaire and contradict ourselves all the time.

It's the nature of our beast, within. And without. We're hopelessly incurable.

This fool has finally accepted that. ABSOLUTELY. And I'm at peace.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=885635321462649&set=a.7060542260...
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12 May at 02:45

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Mark DuBois

The above is sure to start a flurry of meaningful dialog, right? Hey Arthur, can we expect to see another round of your famous cut & paste skills? I can hardly wait.

12 May at 02:57

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Mark DuBois

Has faKebook stock been going up lately? I certainly hope so. Blessings to you, Mark Zuckerberg for giving us this wonderful tool so that we can all connect with each other. You're such a genius.

12 May at 03:01

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Mark DuBois

And it's totally free of charge, too! Wow! What a deal!

12 May at 03:05

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Mark DuBois

Except that we sold our souls to the devil. I'm cool with that, are you?

12 May at 03:13

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Mark DuBois

Hey Arthur, I clicked 'like' above, but I really loved your post.

12 May at 03:27

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Mark DuBois

You have the faKebook limit of 5000 friends, Arthur. How's that working out for you? You must feel really proud of yourself.

I only have 23 myself. I'm never going to be as good as you are.

Congratulations!

12 May at 03:39

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Mark DuBois

And since I'm not nearly as qualified as you are, Arthur, I simply have to sit out and let your leadership carry us forward.

12 May at 07:01

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Mark DuBois

P.S. Love for Life!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdyTXBT5CQE
HALLELUJAH, acoustic - The greatest version ever!.wmv
www.youtube.com

12 May at 04:30

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Arthur Cristian

Mark, we have been involved in other threads on FB elsewhere and now need to get some rest. Its all in the intentions, if you sense our intentions you will sense where we are really coming from and heading. It is very simple. We use the fiction to get out of it ASAP, as fast as possible. "Community Immunity" is critical also and all this intentional work is explained in our articles, videos, etc. If you want to have a chat over a landline we're happy to call you at our cost in the near future and cover the ground with you.

12 May at 04:35

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Mark DuBois

I'm not worthy.

12 May at 04:37

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Arthur Cristian

To us no one is unworthy, is why we do ALL the Love For Life work we do since March 2005 for free (16 hours per day of almost every day, week, month, year) - we give it all away - we are not a cult or a sect, no one follows us and we do not follow anyone either, we are not into religions, etc, and we are clean living in every way imaginable bar temporarily using technology, electricity, etc, to communicate over the net and record music, etc, we are raw-living food eaters, we are non violent, we carry no guns, swords, spears, etc. All this is explained on any page (near the bottom) in the Love For Life website.

12 May at 04:42

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Mark DuBois

Of course, how absent minded of me, master.

http://loveforlife.com.au

12 May at 04:49

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Arthur Cristian

Walk the talk is walk the talk Mark, nothing less, nothing more. If you want to make things out to be more than that then that is your choice but that is of your making/creation, not of ours, not coming from our intentions. We are not your master. We are just MAN like you with issues still being processed BUT we go where truth takes us, we do not "own"/"claim" truth, otherwise we are not free, are slaves to lies. If you have truths to inspire us with then please do share. Also, there is NOTHING we are doing to harm you in any way whatsoever. Whatever you are "feeling" e-motionally is just your make-believe being performed by you.

12 May at 04:57

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Mark DuBois

You should get your rest, master. Sweet dreams.

12 May at 04:59

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Mark DuBois

P.P.S. I hope I can expect another post from you tomorrow . Your wisdom is so illuminating, I'm certain others desire your divine words too. Truer words were never spoken. Thank you, master.

I remain your humble servant.

12 May at 07:15

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Arthur Cristian

Every lie is a curse and every liar is processing curses and the processing of the curse comes upon the children, family, loved ones, grandparents, associates and other beneficiaries.of the liars too, this includes the pull of e-motional attachments to/with liars by whomever. There is now a separation of the ways going on between light and dark, truth and lies, no harm and doing harm, consciousness and unconsciousness, sense and non-sense and between eternal life and eternal death. We all have free will - its now up to each of us to choose which path to take.

12 May at 17:33

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Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone

If you do a thorough self psychological profiling re what you reveal of your approach with projecting and sharing your information, you may perhaps start to sense what you are not currently sensing re your own blind spots

12 May at 18:38

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Stanley North

hahaha Arthur at his finest lmao

12 May at 18:51

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Arthur Cristian

We never made the claim that we have resolved all our blind spots! However, we are conscious of them and are processing them. So you can't find any fault in what is written?

13 May at 04:36

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Arthur Cristian

"Self" has to do with "name" Stephen - Refer to what you wrote. It is your "self psychological profiling" writing. - not ours. We left "self" out when communicating with Russell because we are not interested in glorifying "self" ("name"). Exposing how "self" works" as a fraud/impostor is all we are doing here - we have no interest in glorifying "self". We have no e-motional attachment to any outcome. Fiona and Arthur wrote this together. The point is you are looking for something that is not there in the writings of the writers. They are just "claims" you make up but there is nothing there bar the make-believe of a "self" seeking to create conflict with reflections/shadows that ain't there, don't exist. with the writers. If you believe they do exist, then back your claims, please bring forward the first party evidence. and not the "self" acting as the impostor of the MAN Fiona and the MAN Arthur.

13 May at 04:58

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Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone

And does not your current real estate lease that you live under also involve a 'name', even 'names'??

13 May at 11:42

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Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone

Yourselves ARE the first parties writing writing here, no shadow of a doubt about that is there not?

13 May at 11:47

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Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone

Ok for the sake of your semantic subterfugue, let's change self to man/woman. The same thing still applies here. Can the man/woman who are 1st party to & behind these words actually face their shadow here & take full liability & responsibility without squirming out of facing it using semantic subterfuge? Just like when one learns someone elses musical style of phrasing, one has to get inside the natural mechanism of how it walks/flows etc. It doesn't take rocket science to get inside & understand by sense alone re. the way U guys project your information, the way the man/woman does. C'mon gimmee a bfreak, are we still in kindergarten here??

13 May at 14:50

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Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone

Your information isn't the problem here, in fact most of it is very correct but for the parts that U don't know everything, just like anyone else doesnt know absolutely everything, your approach to projecting & sharing your information is really not that different to how religious fundamentalists do their 'my way or the highway' thing is it not? Your overall whole approach in this regard could do with some diligent revision could it not? Cos at the moment your approach in this regard is doing more to shoot your information in the foot with both barrels....something I sense very strongly that the man & woman that be that which U is/are here need to seriously consider.

13 May at 14:59

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Arthur Cristian

Stephen, this Fiona writing and Arthur sitting next to me. Although you know full well our intentions as you have stayed with us twice, worked with us on music projects, read our work and had many discussions with us, let us set things out clearly for you......

We are like a large squad of police/detectives raiding a suspects home for evidence, searching every nook and cranny of the house thoroughly. We leave no stone unturned in our search for truth because we know that only truth will get us out of the hell that is "The System". If anyone can show us where we are wrong in what we say, we are happy to clean up and move on because we are not attached to the work we do, although we will protect it - we are just passionate and determined to do what it takes to get out of this mess, which, at the moment, has us concentrating on exposing the blind spots that have us create conflict and fight for our belief systems to the extent that we turn on each other rather than setting aside our belief systems to work alongside each other.

This is very uncomfortable for many, many people because their blind spots and their belief systems are often what they have been living their lives out of for years! Just as the house the police raid is turned upside down and inside out, so people feel upside down and inside out when they are confronted about their blind spots. We know this partly because of the e-motional reactions that come our way when we point out the blind spots and partly because we help each other with our blind spots on an on-going basis and it can be very confronting and uncomfortable BUT, we continue to point things out to each other because we are committed to coming out the other side so that we can co-create Paradise again. This is at the heart of what our relationship is all about.

We do this not just with each other but with Hannah too, who you worked with on Save Our Lives. For an update on how this process has worked for her, see https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203702985003214 Hannah has learned to surrender her blind spots and has found the courage to confront people who have walked all over her for years, and stand up for who she is and how she chooses to live her life.

Our commitment to truth is why we encourage people to leave no stone unturned as they go through the body of the Love For Life work to find a lie because if anyone finds one, and can prove that it is a lie, we will correct the error and add the latest truth to the repertoire of insights and continue going where truth takes us. And yes, we will apologise and clean up our act too. We are not driven by pride or shame etc...

Our intention is to destroy the psyop programming that causes all the conflicts of "name", including the petty character bashing you are engaging in right now. How does your post help us all achieve the peace and freedom we all dream for? Can we come to your home and see how it is applied? Or at least some practical steps being implemented.

The pure sincere do no harm light of MAN'S consciousness (all virtues of love in motion in full array) cannot have any spot of grey or black amongst it if MAN is to reclaim who we all really are and what we are all really part of and what actually is the path that guides us out of HELL ("The System" of harm) which also helps us to see/sense where and how our ancestors went wrong and ended up on the path to HELL without realising it. This will be the very path we use to depart HELL for evermore.

If we are not prepared to fully examine everything we think, feel and do and to rout out all the conflict in our thinking, feeling and acting, we will never co-create Paradise because we will be bringing all our system baggage with us, which means that it is not Paradise! The conflict in our brains is where the conflict between us begins. If we do not put the conflict to rest, we will end up with another man-made system of rules and regulations to manage our conflict, rather than communities of men and women who take FULL responsibility for everything they think, feel and do.

How does our commitment to truth resemble religious fanaticism? Or a cult? Or is it the demons between your ears that don't like being ruffled so they send you on the attack, ignoring the work and the intention and focusing on attacking the man and the woman, Arthur and Fiona.

Refer to these links that goes more into this stuff:

https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203667898126064
and
https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203666156282519
and
https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203670852759928
and
https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203677889935853
and
https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203666086280769
and
https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203585889075889
and
https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203584880810683
and refer to the Sequential Order where links to posts we put up this year about "name", "e----go", "spells, "spelling", "trauma/reaction to trauma", "all-seeing-"i"", "born in original sin", "sense vs non-sense", etc, etc, are provided: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514

It appears that all you are doing is trying to create conflict, rather than seeing what we can do to work together to create lives we all dream of, lives of peace, freedom, joy, etc. Conflict has no place in lives such as these so why are you putting so much effort into creating conflict? To make it clear for you, we are not attacking the man Mark Darwin, etc, when we point out what we don't agree with about their work. We are attacking the conflict that is contained in their work because they are trapping people in the story telling of their version of freedom that is a Russian Doll within Russian Doll of psyop programming with no way out. This is why we ask them the questions.

They ignore the questions which shows us that they are not pure and sincere in their search for truth and that they have agendas to protect the self glorification of their own make-believe self-fulfilling fantasies, thereby conning everyone else under that image power. The thought of freedom is not freedom.

You say,"Your information isn't the problem here, in fact most of it is very correct but for the parts that U don't know everything, just like anyone else doesn't know absolutely everything"

If our information is "mostly correct", then why are you having a go at us? If you would like to point out where our information is not correct, we would be interested in hearing what you have to say to see if there is something we need to learn, as we have said above. We have never said that we know everything, and we repeatedly say that we want to continue learning everything we need to learn to shake off the system shackles. Is there a problem with this?

As we always say....

"We ask you to NOT believe anything we say/share and instead use scrutiny like an intense blow torch and go where the logic of truth/sense takes you. This is very, very important. Put everything you believe up to the test of scrutiny to see how it stacks up. If you are true to your heart/senses and go where the logic of truth/sense takes you will find that NO belief, etc, will stand up to the test of scrutiny. They just do not stack up because they are lies/fraud."

Or is your problem just that we do not fit into the box you have assigned for us, where we speak and share information according to your dictates. What is it, Stephen? Are our sentences too long? Are there not enough jokes? Not enough of the right buzz words floating around? Not enough cosmic, galactic, "Oneness" glue to keep us all heading towards the NWO? Perhaps you could write us out a list of guidelines for us so that we deliver our message in the "right", politically correct way.

Have you noticed that we don't tell you how to express your thoughts and feelings? Do we tell you how to write? Or anyone else for that matter. We will always point it out if we think someone is barking up the wrong tree but we do not attack the tone of their bark or the fact that they are barking up the wrong tree. Why? Because that would be to attack the man or woman that they are, to seek to do them harm and to cause conflict. This is not what we stand for.

Or are you just on a "poor me", victim ego trip, distracting people from our message by attacking the way we write and the passion and the intensity of that passion because you don't want to face the conflict in your brain. EGO and INTEL indulge in this because they thrive off the reactions to trauma, the conflict they worship, going on between their ears which they can manipulate and control in others, causing everyone caught up in the conflict to continue the bickering, the nit-picking, the fighting, the division between us, in short, "The System"!

EGO and INTEL love looking at their own reflections, the self-indulgence of their own intellectual brilliance that actually is the conflict. This is how it works all through "The System". There are no virtues of love demonstrated clearly.

Do you not have the love in you to have the graciousness to give to others who are outside the box of your pre-determined expectations, your power and control trip, the conflict that you serve?

To us, it is clear that there are thousands of INTEL operatives appearing everywhere, weaving an intricate web of buzz words drawing everyone into the conflict of the NWO remedy. They are shepherds, the manipulators of conflict (reactions to trauma), herding the sheeple who have been conditioned over the last 40 years or so of New Age mantras to go quietly from the current version of "The System" to the next, that being the next conflict that ego and INTEL operators promote, as in Mark Darwin, etc. We are committed to routing them all out, at the same time as walking the talk as a living example of how we can live without any of this.

All we want to do is get people to see the harm and stop the harm. Apart from that we have no desire to tell people how to live or how they should act, talk, walk, etc. All our work is about setting us all free from each other to stop the rot, and this includes people not falling under our image power, which is why we are not a cult, sect or a religion and there are no leaders or followers. Refer to disclaimer below.

Are we perfect? NO. Have we removed our lives fully from "The System"? NO. Do we still have blind spots? YES. Do we have a goal and a commitment to that goal? YES. Do you have a problem with any of this? Refer to these posts involving Raymond Karczewski: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8414 and Gregory Williams: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203692712866417

All you are doing is attacking our characters which is exactly what Russell is doing but where, in all this, is the remedy to MAN's suffering? Where in all this conflict do you hope to create everlasting peace? How is all this bitchiness going to create truthful, loving relationships with each other? Hannah, who is only 25, is MILES ahead of you in all this because she is walking the talk while you and your blind spot posse just bitch and complain about us. Why don't you all drop the sarcasm and character assassinations and work with us to create true freedom, peace, etc., for ALL, not just an ILLUSION of freedom for those who pay money to Mark Darwin for setting them up a trust, foundation, etc, so they are alright, mate, but stuff everybody else?

Are you trying to manipulate e-motional reactions to us? Do you want us to conform to you, just as Mark Darwin wants people to conform to his story telling version of "freedom"?

When have we ever said that we are not still compromised by links to "The System"? As you know very well having come and stayed with us twice. Yes, Fiona has a lease with her "name" on it, as well as a heap of other system contracts and, until we have a strong community around us, this is how it is, unless we go bush. All this has been covered in great detail in our work, which you are well aware of. Refer to the Kate of Gaia post we put up yesterday: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203726940962098

Where is the evidence of our religious fanaticism in how we live?

The only place where you see religious fanaticism in the freedom truth movement is when you have people running workshops, charging for them and continuing the psyop brainwashing program. Sorry, Stephen, they may be mates of yours, but we will point them out when we see them. We heard that one so-called freedom truther is currently charging $150.00 for a phone call! Where is the truth and freedom in that? Where is the compassion, the empathy, the love?

Capturing Another MANS Uniqueness
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 17th May 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8414

18 May at 17:38

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Arthur Cristian

We haven't seen anything in your work, your writing, that shows how to expose the real psyop programming or stand up to the real psyop programming or free our thoughts and feelings from the real psyop programming. All your work does is maintain them because you work within it. What is your remedy, Stephen? How should we get out of this mess? Neither have we seen any thing in the work of Mark Darwin, Max Igan, Mark Pytellek that exposes the real psyop programming or shows a way out of "The System". See below for more on this.

All you are doing is trying to discredit us, trying to have a wrestling match with us, and trying to discredit the remedy we promote. Again refer to the post about Kate of Gaia. We don't come after you and point out your character traits that are less than perfect. Where do your loyalties lie?

People love to say, "Hey you're not perfect" but we never say we are. We do not put us in one basket and everyone else in another.

Are you just trying to save face here because it is people you are involved with that we are exposing? There is nothing we can do to harm you or hurt you unless you have a hidden agenda that you are trying to protect. Are you supporting what we are doing, as you can't find anything wrong with our work, or are you out to undermine us? Are you trying to protect the psyop program? If not, then why aren't we creating community gardens and community shelter with each. And some can be created in Sydney too. Freedom is a full time project, not something done between system drinks.

The Freemasonic world relies on keeping people in a state of trauma because then they need the prosthetics provided by the Freemasonic world to get along. THEY CANNOT AFFORD TO HAVE REMEDY BE CREATED. The old methods of keeping us trauma based, such as the church, politics, etc, are no longer working, so the shepherds of the NWO are introducing the new methods of trauma control, the mantras and "oneness" glue of the NWO that are all based on the thought of freedom, not true freedom being lived in present sense.

The shepherds of the NWO are doing nothing to point out that bickering between us and making bitchy, sarcastic, smart-arsed comments are doing nothing to get us to Paradise. For examples of these, check out the comment from Russell Williams (this thread), Mark Du Bois (in this thread) and Bill Westlund: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203685576368009 if you haven't already read them. How are their comments helpful? Like you, all they seem to be trying to do is put us down and in doing so, ignore the remedy that we promote and live for. Again, refer to Kate of Gaia thread.

You say it is our way or the highway. We never say that. There are an infinite number of ways to co-create do no harm lives, all unique and original, just as the men and women creating them are unique and original too. Again, refer to post with Gregory Williams: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203692712866417 because we again explain the psyop programming deception in action.

The psyop program is designed to have us all eventually be bound together in some universal agreement/contract because we doubt our ability to stand on our own two feet, taking full responsibility for everything we think, feel and do. We doubt that we have been given everything we need to live whole lives without having to force people under our image power, or someone else's image power. This is at the heart of the psyop programming deception, the Russian dolls of our brainwashing.

All we say is, "Do No Harm" or would you like there still to be some harm around? Some abuse, some violence, some destruction. Which harm would you like to maintain? Doubt is harm. When we doubt everyone around us and don't give people their true freedom, what do we create? It is only through doubt that you can bring a mass of people together under the image of a universal contract, a cult, sect, religion, psyop program?It is only people who doubt that come to these meetings and read these articles and go to these workshops.

Imagine bringing up children without ever putting doubt in their thoughts and there being nowhere for them to experience doubt, never doubting you, or their animal friends, or the trees. Can you not see the psyop programming at work here? Can you not see how you doubt us, even though we have never harmed you?

You say we are shooting our information in the foot with our approach. Are you the representative of everyone? Many, many people send us emails thanking us for the work we are doing so is our approach shooting our information in the foot for these people? Have you considered that just because our approach does not work for you does not mean it doesn't work for anybody? And it is not an "approach". We write how we write because that is how we write, just as you write how you write because it is how you write. We write to express as clearly as we can what we have to share. That's it.

We have nothing to hide and nothing to be ashamed of. If you are so sure of the claims you make about us, and so sure of the information being spread by Mark Darwin, Max Igan, Mark Pytellek and anyone else you care to invite, why don't you get everyone together for a Skype debate and you and they can all tell us where you think we are wrong and where our work does not show the way out of "The System" for ALL, regardless of colour, creed, nationality, etc. And we can explain, again, how and where their work leads nowhere but into the NWO, that their work is all rooted in doubt, whereas ours isn't. You are bringing people together now so how about giving them the opportunity to rout us out, to prove that what we are saying is not true, and give listeners the opportunity to hear all sides and use their brains to work things out.

To summarise: bits and pieces taken from various posts on Arthur's FB wall.

From this thread: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203692712866417 - A cow looking over the fence at a green pasture is still a slave to MAN, nothing has changed whether the cow remains in an existing enclosure or is led to another "greener pasture". The point of true freedom is not to lead anyone or anything anywhere at any "time".

Everything about Christianity is this, despite some "good moral truths" and well-meaning people who truly want to help others and live good lives.

If only they would wake up to the brainwashing they have been subjected to!

Then they could lead even more powerful lives of TRUE-freedom.

What is the true freedom?

The "wild" animal that befriends you of its free-will or the animal that is captured and trained/forced to do MANS bidding?

Which freedom do you want to live for?

It's clear where we are heading - what the big picture is.

Christians are slaves to "The System" behind the Bible but they talk about freedom. The freedom they are talking about is "freedom" within "The System" which is no different from the cow going from one field to the next. This freedom is fraud because it is not real freedom. We commit fraud when we claim that we have our animals best interests at heart, all the while they are enslaved to us.

"The System" is just the image power of another MAN forcing others to live under their version of freedom in that image. Those images being the Kingdom of God, Freedom, etc. These are thoughts and ideas of another MAN. They are not unique and original to you. This is no different to the animals that we provide with stables and paddocks; they are not free. They are living under the image power that we place over them.

What is more invigorating; the wild horse who willingly allows you to get on its back and together as a shared experience go for a journey, with both of you having a unique, direct, shared experience, or the ride on a horse you have taken out of the stable and put a saddle on and then put the horse back in the stable after the ride?

What about children, brainwashed Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc.....?

Do you think educating them with The Bible is providing them with true freedom or is it the true loss of true freedom because they are subjected to another MANS FORCE of image power enforcing them under his/her/their image-power, their version of freedom?

Are you truly free in the supermarket as you shop or are you just provided with choices under the guise of "freedom"?

Why does MAN doubt that Living Creator provided everything MAN needs?

Why does MAN have to kidnap children to brainwash them under their IMAGE POWER?

Why does MAN doubt that Living-Creator has provided everything MANS child needs and everything every creature, plant, etc, needs?

Why do we have to act as impostors and trap unique original life-forms under our "storytelling"?

And we argue for this enslavement and we fight for it too.

Here is an example of this deception at play: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203677889935853

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And from this this thread: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203726940962098 - The posts/comments we put up is directed at the blatant Psyop tactics being used, hence our dissociation - our comments/posts clearly explain where we are coming from. Suggest you read them again. If Kate is innocent then he has nothing to be concerned about - what we shared needed to be clearly stated. We refuse our lives, our work, to be associated with no remedy, which comes hand in hand with all our work.

As far as we are concerned we've sensed Kate to be Intel for almost three years now. Nothing has occurred since to change our views on Kate. We had many dealings with him back then. We don't say these things lightly, we don't just rush in and make comments like this unless we have contemplated, contemplated, contemplated, scrutinised, scrutinised, scrutinised, and listened over and and over again to our senses, gut instincts, perceptions, insights, (ancestors all around us), etc. They have never failed us thus far.

It's better to put all our life-energy into the remedy that is Kindom than even to be spending time waking people up to the birth bond fraud because, even if everyone wakes up to it, they still don't have a living remedy in everyday practical sense and thus are ripe for the latest INTEL shepherd with the right buzz words and mantras to sweep them up. Remedy is VITAL, which is why we push it so hard.

We have to start living the remedy all the while waking up to the depth of deception that has been practiced against us. If we don't create the light of kindom, there is nowhere to fall back on when we wake up to the fact that "The System" is rotten to the core, that we are stuck in the darkness of no remedy, no light. Talking about the birth bond fraud is not getting rid of it. Creating Kindoms so that we no longer need "The System" in everyday practical sense and the birth bond fraud doesn't matter any more because we have already cast off our system chains and "The System" fades away as we work on expanding the light of Kindom all around.

The reason for posting the above is to point out how we are all trapped in a Russian Doll psyop program and relying on the information of the psyop program to get us out of the psyop program. Such is the work of Mark Darwin, Mark Pytellek, Max Igan, etc. What we are saying is that we have to step beyond all that and out of the psyop program altogether to begin to set into motion a remedy. Otherwise we end up talking about freedom and truth but not taking the full responsibility for creating truth, freedom and do no harm in our lives and living it in present sense, in every day practical sense.

Stephen, in case you are still not clear about our intentions, below is a declaration and a pledge that have been on our website since 2006 which clearly states where we are coming from;

From the Love For Life website posted 2006..... (found on any web page throughout the website)

THE CRISTIAN FAMILY DECLARATION

The Cristian family and The Love for Life Campaign are apolitical, non-religious, non-violent, anti weapons, anti drugs (both pharmaceutical and recreational) and anti any ideology that denies the existence of Do No Harm Communities (Kindoms) and suppresses the uniqueness and freedom of all men, women and children.

The Cristian family and our Love For Life work is unaligned to any big business corporation, intelligence agency, government body, "system" law, "system" think tanks, "system" green or environmental movements, religion, cult, sect, society (fraternity, brotherhood, sisterhood, order, club, etc,) secret or not, hidden agenda, law or sovereignty group, occult, esoteric, New Age or Old Age.

The Cristian family supports and promotes the remedy that brings an everlasting peace, freedom, truth, joy, abundance and do no harm for all of life without causing loss of uniqueness or the need for having slaves and rulers. We are not into following the one in front or being shepherds for sheeple. Most importantly, we take full-responsibility for everything we think, feel and do.

The Cristian family are not Christians.

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

December 2006

THE CRISTIAN FAMILY PLEDGE

Being of clear brain, heart and intention, we each declare the following to be true:

• We have no intention of ending our own lives.

• We will not tolerate suppression of truth, ideas, freedom, or our work. We stand for freedom of speech.

• We stand together to support others in the expression of truths and freedom to speak out no matter how radical those ideas may seem.

• Standing for freedom takes courage; together we shall be strong in the face of all odds.

• If it is ever claimed that we have committed suicide, encountered an unfortunate accident, died of sickness/disease, disappeared, been institutionalised, or sold out financially or in any other way to self-interested factions, we declare those claims false and fabricated.

• We testify, assert and affirm without reservation, on behalf of all those who have dedicated their lives to the ending of secrecy and the promotion of freedom of thought, ideas and expression that we shall prevail.

• We Do Not Have Multiple Personality Disorders

Arthur Cristian
Fiona Cristian
Jasmin Lily Cristian
Emma Rose Cristian
Frances Hannah Cristian
Xanthe Jane Cristian

15th December 2006 (Edited/Updated 18th September 2011)

And you could also re-visit the lyrics of Save Our Lives which describe the state of most of us here and now in present sense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMgcLqO7VrQ

All the best for you Stephen
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life

18 May at 17:40

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Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone

I've had enough of your hypocrisy on many levels, work it out & deal with it or don't. U don't know how i operate 100% making a difference, what i post on my wall is not 100% of what i do, far from it, it is a mere fraction & what U presume of this into your boxed definition of what I represent here from what i post is very narrow minded & definitely not of whole sense. Remember it was me who came to visit U in person & not the other way around. Who have U gone to visit in person to checkout that U are not 100% about but U still accuse them of this, that & the other?

Nor do U know everything about all those U accuse about being cointel. I'm not even going to go into some of the people U have wrongly accused that i myself have met many times in person & have seen the successful results of their work because in this type of public forum it will not serve U, I or them any good whatsoever. Some U are correct about some U are dead wrong yet do U take liability & accountability for when U incorrectly tread on the wrong toes doing harm by doing so?

Unless U have 100% proof of cointel U need to be very careful who U label & box of this & that. Sure, someone's work may indeed may seem to make them cointel & in many cases it does eventually prove to be true once enough evidence on many levels has been gathered but this is however not the case with all people in this regard. The fact that the powers that be can destroy & demonise beyond repall anyone's reputation with clever lies in disguises via many various interoperable means of their whole enterprise architecture is bad enough as it is.

If U accuse someone of cointel no matter how much U can sense it to be true yourself but can't 100% physically prove this to be true, let alone never having vastly experienced in person 1st party who U accuse, then it makes U no better than the powers that be in this regard. In fact it makes U a very useful divide & conquer cointel tool without them needing one There is a very fine line between someone who can be cointel & someone who is just a wilful idiot &/or totally misinformed & on the wrong track but still thinks they are doing the right thing. Q.

What happens when U are wrong about someone being cointel? A. U do them harm. U haven't even met all of these people in person 1st party U accuse of being cointel. There is no point in stating something as cointel truth that can not be proved to be either 100% correct or incorrect, & if something is of a very suspicious nature to be of a certain way, is it not more intelligent to stimulate more much needed provoked thought on the issue by writing about/talking about what is clearly observed until more irrefutable facts come into line rather than just state something to be obviously true just because of this & that which ultimately cannot be fully proved nor fully disproved?

U are in no position to hypocritically judge me nor do i want to waste any more of my time calling U out on your hypocrisies with positive proactive criticism & where your approach is very questionable specifically in this regard. U guys just go for the jugular with no remorse & unless U are 100% correct such an approach just shoots yourselves in the feet with both barrels & distracts people & makes such a shitfight where everyone ends up wasting valuable lifeforce energy that people end up rather wanting to die in the system than look & learn from the good stuff U have on offer that does create remedy if it means they have to continually put up with the trauma.

U give the Satanic Freemasons too much credit - U constantly spout that they make most of it all up. There is a lot of truth that they demonise & use for their own purposes & hence not many go looking for the most obvious place to investigate where they hide truth in the shade. U think they just made the Levite codes for modern Romanised languages out of thin air? There is an original organic language where the letter sounds are that of nature sounds. Have U worked out what it is & know the hows & whys to it all? Have U worked out what they reverse polarised & adapted the English artificial letter sounds except for 's' from, or do U still think they made it all up from scratch? I've dropped enough obvious hints to wet your appetite & curiosity to want to investigate it for yourselves. The original language doesnt lie & the truth is still there for all to see right in front of everyone's faces once once has worked out the key to it all working in reverse but moving forwards.

19 May at 05:48

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Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone

U know jack shit of all of what i do & it is most ardently presumptuous of U to even think U can too. Your approach in public forums on facebook is at times very arrogant, self righteous, harmful & demeaning, especially when it comes to the bottom line creation mechanics ,to those who have far more psychic CENTRED sense than U both do when it comes to actually knowing these things in a completely present state & are far more humble with their approach with sharing what they know. Who are U that they have already been to tell them they are wrong & Satanic just because they don't fit into your box re. how to ideally live away from the system?? Let the truth do the talking & if U want to get your message across much quicker than the usual graduated stages it takes most people over time in order to get (innerstand & overstand etc.) most things of key critical mass importance re. waking up, perhaps find ways to attract peoples' curiosity towards wanting to know it for themselves rather than feeling the insecure need to just bible bash projectile it fashion down people's throats till U grind them down to your own level of experience.

The OWO/NWO have ripped off & hijacked so much before them that is original in an organic sense & have reverse polarised it & manipulated it to create their system. U really think they worked out all of their system for themselves from scratch? Do U not even consider that they have pimped the organic & genial instincts of others before them in order to cherry pick, manipulate, facilitate & recreate what wasnt theirs to start with in the first place into their 'shadow' system?

Your overall highly self righteous fundamental approach that U share your information with needs serious revision from my honest transparent observations on many levels most of which U just continually disregard & look over without much honest evaluated consideration if any at all re. some things - take it or leave it. U have no problem attacking others but when someone like me holds a mirror up so that U can face your own projections U start accusing me of attacking U. I deliberately get inside your gait & mechanisms & use your own language & terms so as to innerstand, understand, & overstand as to where U are coming from the same as an apt musician does to get inside someone else's natural style/gait so as to learn from it & know it. Music is the highest of all natural sciences as everything is all frequency & vibration. Once one 'gets in' on this level of creation mechanics & applies such knowings with the DNA of all life, it is a simple process of transferring the same thing across to all aspects that enable one to know further the interconnectedness of the fabric that makes up all life. In this specific regard, all I do is hold a mirror up & then U cry blue murder that I am attacking Arthur the man etc. when if Arthur the man has no self righteous problem projecting onto others what he thinks is 100% of 'do no harm' then really if the same thing is simply mirrored back to him then why all the fuss? According to Arthur's 'do no harm' paradigm when i hold a mirror up to Arthur then really I am not doing any harm whatsoever. If Arthur is speaking the 100% truth & telling no lies whatsoever then what is mirrored back to him should not be of any harm whatsoever UNLESS what Arthur has projected in the first place is not 100% truth & thus if there is even one lie whether intended or not, that lie, which, as U correctly say every lie is a curse, will get mirrored back to him & hence why he may get hurt & Fiona comes into the fray & starts hypocritically accusing me of attacking his character &/or 'the man' & around the block we go again for one more lap of the mulberry bush.

Anyone can play the additional copy & paste mulberry bush strategy too, but if one knows their information well enough one shouldn't need to if U can spontaneously walk your talk without material props in the present moment.It does make things a bit more free flowing & keeping on specific point without straying from the present moment of energetic exchange. Spontaneity created in the moment existing in love is the truth. Anything contrived has layers attached to it & thus is no longer in the moment & this can be sensed energetically too. Intellectualism means nothing unless it is poignant to the 'isness' of any moment. This is where U lose people with your bombardment of repetitious copy & paste past posts where U expect people to go thru hours of your past documentations in order to substantiate more often than not something that was said/written briefly somewhere amongst the hours of reading or video talk that U could have simply stated being more specific & on point in the present moment of the discussion U are having with someone. I have seen this predictable broken wreckchord pattern repeat itself time & time again & once people get worn out when U grind their lifeforce down to your level of experience, they more often than not just go into their own personal trauma damage control in this specific energetic regard & leave the discussion cause they don't want to suffer any more harm by choosing to remain in such a situation & then U guys jump up & down on your soapboxes retrospectively after that claiming that no-one can out debate U & that no one can find fault in your do no harm philosophies/paradigm.

19 May at 05:49

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Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone

It is very easy to find fault in your supposed do not harm paradigm, just hold up a mirror & if U get harmed by what is simply reflected back then those things that are mirrored back that cause U harm is eggsackly what U need to look at closer & work on.

Now I wrote all of this spontaneously without referring back to any of my past writings or notes or what have U etc. when really i should not be distracted into replying at all cos in 6 hours i have to face the system via the tenancy tribunal for not paying over inflated water charges due mainly to Dept of Housing maintenance negligence re. plumbing/tap/water leaks, let alone other contract breaches they have committed of their own making even within their own system of contract law. Sure, i'd love to be living on the land away from the system living an idealistic organic dream of life if it were currently possible to find a piece of land on this earth that is not owned by the church that marries the 'only god is the owner of the land & we are his rightful proxy managers & hence we own it all' bull$hit with the state & hence it becomes legal fiction law that the banksters combined with the high black priests then end up owning & managing the systemic infrastructure of, but pragmatically & stoicly speaking, i still need a roof over my head to live under for now & unless i deal with the system & know it well enough to be able to hold a mirror up to it so as to cancel out back to zero point the obsequious frequency & vibration it is projecting at me with it's own out of phase reverse polarised frequency & vibration, it will fuck me up the ass regardless & toss me out onto the street. Hence i have wasted way too much time either being an idiot or putting in enough diligent duty of care to keep the love amongst the living in order to expand & enhance upon what I initially said earlier in this thread well over a week ago in a very simple but straight to the point yet respectful way so that it may be clearly understood without the possibility of it again falling on ears that don't listen to every instrument, voice & production part in the mix & being totally not comprehended or maybe some of this going straight over your heads?

Now it's 5 hours, i really am a special kind of stupid lol I could have easily chosen to not care & your reply would have gone straight through to the wicket keeper anyway. It's not like there is anything uniquely present & new that be which of your reply that U haven't said before is there? The evidence of your religious fanatical approach has already been blatantly called out & deconstructed for what it is & your continual subterfuge away from this is pure deceit in itself whether it be knowingly or unknowingly.. If your blind spots still can't see it then it is what it is, it is up to U whether U have what it takes to go face what unconscious parts of your shadow at this stage of your awareness is most seemingly too deep for your conscious parts to bear & handle, & the only place smack bang in the middle of one's present centre one can face & do this for themselves is at the turning point within the very depths of the bowels of one's consciousness. Everyone eventually faces this whether they like it or not if they havent chosen to do so already all ready by the time they experience their Shamanic synchronicity of death transition moment.

You may indeed just say U write how U write but both of you are constantly analyzing the psyche of material that people put out that U never meet in person to the point U call them & their approach out as cointel. U claim to be all this & that but when the shoe is on the other foot yet again U take the almighty high & self righteous pious road in defence. Maybe when U stop this level of duality mind construct hypocrisy programming yourselves, i might stop calling it out the same as U call people out for being cointel that are not all cointel? U may need to consider the old wise saying too in this specific regard of what happens when one always is doing the same things & expecting different results? Too scared to look at &/or even perhaps consider that there actually is a pattern to what U do that one may even presently observe even from a distance as an approach yet U are not afraid in the slightest in pointing it out in others when U see fit & serves your point at hand?

19 May at 05:49

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Arthur Cristian

Stephen, twice to and from Bowral we (our tribe) came to collect you from your home, the first time with Bruno collecting and dropping you off near Lakemba for us (tribe) to collect you. We saw plenty of your Woolloomooloo pad/life back then. It was a team effort to share the full-responsibility of doing something together - organic food, water, health, shelter, bathroom, sofa-bed, transport, friendship, support, song-writing, playing instruments, recording music, etc. We did something together and we had good times.

Through direct experience does this not already reveal to you how we live and continue living to share the abundance of the makings of our lives? If we were trapped in duality constructs we would be too self-centred glorifying "i" to be capable of freely sharing life - hundreds of people have stayed with us and have witnessed how we live. You know some of them. The point is we only met you twice and both times our tribe put the effort in to journey from Bowral to Woolloomooloo 120klms and from Woolloomooloo to Bowral 120klms so you could be with us and us with you = 480klms.

We have known Mark Pytellek since 2007, he and Karen stayed in our home for 4 days March 2009 and did a weekend workshop with him.

David Icke Stayed in our home for 1 week back in 1996 and we looked after him driving him around etc (same with Mark & Karen) during his stay and we even got David to put on a talk for many friends we invited one evening.

Mark Darwin barged into the Mark Pytellek 2009 w/shop and we had plenty of dealings with him particularly with many many deeply hurt people close to him ever since. Refer to Mark Darwin here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7579 and check the comments section too.

We had dealings over the phone and net with Max Igan since 2010/2011 and he outed himself as INTEL along the way...........

A Spell Master At Work (Max Igan)
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
21st April 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8401

The Continuation Of The Max Igan Saga
21st August 2013
Facebook Discussion With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8478

Max Igan & The Fraud Of The OPPT
(One Peoples Public Trust)

Facebook Discussion With Arthur & Fiona Cristian
17th to 19th February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8357

OPPT & Slavery Through Intellectual Conscription By Deceit
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
27th February 2013 onwards...
Part One : http://youtu.be/Qjp_9nlrBao
Part Two : http://youtu.be/tbybeOWZ-Bc
Part Three : http://youtu.be/yOWoxH-HbVw

Kate of Gaia we've been dealing with for almost 3 years now.

Jordan Maxwell we had one to one dealings with via email many many times back in 2006/2007/2008. The list goes on and on and on.....

We don't say these things (INTEL) lightly, we don't just rush in and make comments like this unless we have contemplated, contemplated, contemplated, scrutinised, scrutinised, scrutinised, and listened over and and over again to our senses, gut instincts, perceptions, insights, (ancestors all around us), etc. They have never failed us thus far.

We proved Mark Darwin is INTEL by the psyop programs he uses which we clearly laid out for all to see, yet alone all the background direct-experience we had with many many first parties, damaged people/families at the hands of Mark Darwin who made plenty of $$$$ out of them too.

Mark Pytellek is INTEL too, we have had hundreds of dealings with people terribly damaged by the work of Mark Pytellek (he made money out of all of them).

The façade of the "nice priest" only exists for as long as all the damage he causes as a paedophile/harm-doer is contained in the background so that the wider community does not know anything about it. This allows for the duped to continue flocking to the severely-compromised-priest's church each week, with $$$ in hand to support him and his church. But there in the background are a few social workers and a policeman/detective or two gaining vast first party evidence of many many sexually abused children, many unrelated to each other and their families.

Same with the work we do Stephen, we have had hundreds of first party dealings with families terribly damaged by INTEL Operators, some (of what we know so far) you are determined to protect.

If Mark Darwin, Max Igan and Mark Pytellek are innocent they would have already dropped everything to do freedom seminars, w/shops, etc, and stopped making money out of mostly desperate, deeply traumatised people. All of their psyop programs are deeply rooted in duality constructs that blatantly brainwash their victims.

How can you take the duped into what does not exist (courts, laws, statutes, money, government, corporations, institutions, trusts, foundations, etc etc) to find and apply a remedy that does not exist either while making money (which does not exist) out of the duped? THERE IS NO REMEDY - all still remain deeply trapped in "The System" with no way out. THIS IS FACT - and you are trying to protect these liars to continue running this racket/scam!

And have they dropped all this work?

NOPE.

Have they made an apology for the fraud/lies of their work that misled so many many many many people and still do?

NOPE!

What about you Stephen?

Almost everything else you've written to us is all your storytelling of non-sense going on between your ears Stephen. Your intellectual brilliance is severely blunted by the conflict of your "own" making. The real Arthur & Fiona are not even present to you - they are just echoes of an imaginary conflict going on between your ears. We are the living first parties and we testify that the conflict and doubt you have written in your posts, using us as part of your storyboard in this thread, are make-believe.

As we have already offered, why don't you put all your claims/arguments to the test of scrutiny in a debate with us recorded live for uploading to Youtube, Facebook and elsewhere etc? If you are so confident in what you say then come on mate, lets get on with it, please do expose us, rout us out for all to see. Lets see you back your claims. Why not bring Mark Darwin, Mark Pytellek and Max Igan on the "show" with you. We are big boys/girls, we can handle the 4 of you.

How about it Stephen?

This would help to clear the air.

And here you are Stephen agreeing with almost everything we say about psyops programming while at the same time we are witnessing you protecting the psyops programming Max Igan, Mark Darwin, Mark Pytellek & others are using which we have exposed in great detail which you agree with! Who is the hypocrite here? Whose side are you on Stephen?

19 May at 14:02

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Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone

I'm up for a show with U & Max - then U will not be able to duck & weave & subterfuge away from the conflict of your own hypocritical making. Your approach is so fear based & what U project onto others when U take it to the extreme max overly criticizing people with allegations U have no hard evidence for only serves to expose your own insecurities. Basic psychology 101. Fear based projection & with your bible bashing Arthur's way or the highway approach does do harm & also U are hypocritically guilty of being addicted to the trauma U also create in the process. The fact U never own it & the fact that without the names of others around U that U wouldnt even have a roof over your head speaks for itself.

I will be asking the same point blank questions U continue to avoid & subterfuge away from & never own & on a radio show U won't be able to copy & paste all your inspecific diatribe that is not point blank poignant & specific to the key critical points at hand U continually avoid when the mirror is held up. U need to lose the holier than thou attitudinal dysfunction & admit to & own your hypocrisies & flaws because when the shoe is on the other foot U can't handle when your low vibratory psychological attitudinal approaches are exposed for what they truly are, U can't even take back & own a quarter of what U dish out to others. U are way too quick to jusge without knowing the whole of a person's situation/knowledge/results, just your own selective cherrypicking that suits your own agenda. I have seen the good & bad results of many. It is not always the person's fault who is the messenger teaching the information, it is often what the person learning the information actually does or doesnt do with it. A teacher is only as good as the space a student provides & U NEVER take this into consideration when assessing & judging the whole of someone's work & or what they do, nor do U ever know the whole entirety of what they do..U are often so guilty of projecting the same things U hardcore warn people about & hardcore expose some people U havent done enough homework on.

In life what U give is what U get. Now look at the psychology of how U present & project your information & watch yourselves scream blue murder & slander when someone like me puts back on you what U put onto others. When U do it to others U say U are only pointing out their mechanisms & not attacking the living man but when it's done back to U re. your machination mechanisms & psychological attitudinal approach are called out, it's duck & weave & subterfuge time never owning your own forensic profiling footprints.

We're all on the same side here but U need to own your own part in your own divide & separate tango re. your attitudinal approach amongst this very same side/team.

bugger writing any more, just book the show with Max & i'll deconstruct it all & explain it all even more simpler yet more straight to the point in the spoken spontaneous present.

29 May at 13:05

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Arthur Cristian

All your questions were answered Stephen - please point out which ones are you claiming we've avoided? Again, you talk in the 3rd party claiming that your performance of Arthur & Fiona is the first party. You continue acting as an impostor of us trying to glue your claims about us on us. This is bullshit Stephen. You are really con-fused between 1st party and third party. Refer to the post we are about to put up about Max Igans Psyops Program, will post link below. Please read it as it might help make things a lot more clearer as to where we are really coming from and what our intentions/motives are/were. It again explains this 1st party and third party scenario. Most happy to chat with you over the air waves or we meet up for a face to face chat.

1 June at 02:03

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Arthur Cristian

Routing Out Psyop Programs Routs Out Intel Operatives
+ Exposing Max Igan's Psyop Program
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 31st May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8524

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Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone

Ok, lets hold up the mirror once again 'You continue acting as an impostor of us trying to glue your claims about us on us. This is bullshit Arthur & Fiona"....comprende? penny dropped yet? As the old saying goes, are U doing the same things here yet always expecting different results?

1 June at 02:39

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Arthur Cristian

The mirror is always in the third party to Stephen - the first party is not the mirror.

1 June at 02:57

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Arthur Cristian

We need to meet up - do you want come out here for an overnight in the near future? We can sort this all out between us then.

1 June at 02:58

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Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone

What does the first party see in the mirror?

1 June at 03:16

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Essence Mera

Arthur no personal offence to you but judging by your repeated comments one after the other as well as the repeated contents....they remind me of a power point slide show...also they remind me of those op media flashing mind program's...designed to push the minds tolerance level to either take on the flashing programming or go insane fighting it.., Do you think you might have been one of those people who were subjucted to this sort of mind programming then had their memory wiped and reconfigured into the new world?

1 June at 03:58

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Arthur Cristian

@ Stephen, Nothing (real) unless he/she is brainwashed or lost in "self-made e-----go....

1 June at 04:04

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Arthur Cristian

@ Essence, No, nothing like it - Best not to add your meaning to what you read cause they are yours, not ours. The explanations/insights are there for those who want to fully-comprehend what we've been learning. We are a first party - come and have a direct experience with us - would you like to have a chat over a landline in the near future? If so FB PM us and we'll get back to you. Also, most of these posts are written by Fiona and Arthur together, especially all those listed in the sequential order. Off to have a rest...... Thanks for sharing your waking life with us.

1 June at 04:09

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Essence Mera

"Arthur Cristian
Nothing (real) unless he/she is brainwashed or lost in "self-made e-----go...."
Yes that's very visible

"- would you like to have a chat over a landline in the near future? If so FB PM us and we'll get back to you. "

Thank you for the invitation maybe another time.

1 June at 04:18

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Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone

Do U not experience yourself as real, 1st party, when U stare at yourself in the bathroom mirror during any present moment?

Or use the mirror to make it easier to look at a part of your body that your eyes cannot see without a mirror in order to perform a certain task in an easier way?

A mirror is very handy to use in any present moment especially when U can't see your own blind spots is it not?

When U look at your reflection in a lake from the water is that also not real? Or is this type of natural reflection part of the Satanic Freemasonic conspiracy to suck your lifeforce too?

There is a difference with using a mirror in a practical present moment sense than using one in a non present manipulated sense that then has contrived layers attached to it.

Nothing real huh, so according to your logic, when U project what U say U can't even see/hear what U have projected even when it is point blank directly mirrored & echoed back to yourself being the first party?

Your reflection straight back at U in the mirror would not exist in the first place if U the first party was not there in the first place.

When i hold up the mirror i merely return your projections & if any of them are lies the curses are returned straight back to sender.

I have many times used your exact profiled projections that U use on myself & other people & neither of you can handle the same poison U spit when it is returned. If it wasn't poison then it would be like water off a duck's back when it is not bought into & deflected/reflected straight back at U but U more often than not never handle what U give out to people like this when it is returned straight back to U.

U have no problem hitting people with your own cricket bat but U cry blue murder when other people use your own bat against yourselves. U constantly expose your own hypocrisies in this way. How many other ways would U like me to put it until U get it or are U too brainwashed or lost within your own self made e------go?

It is not hard to be 1st party to Arthur & Fiona's performance & then copy & paste their performance & send it 1st party straight back to them. It's child's play in fact. If either of U had spent as much time in your lifetimes so far as i have listening to & producing sounds U might start to begin to see for your 1st party selves that it is indeed child's play once one has put enough love into attaining such a skill. Copy & pasting your more often than not non spontaneous performed broken wreckchord rhetoric & sending it right back in your faces requires the same effort as accurately mimicking doe re mi. It's light years away from getting inside the tonal timbres & harmonic rhythm of a spontaneously improvised work of a virtuosic free spirited gypsy musician. It would be most wise to not shit on others who have a far more extensive attention to detail when it comes to listening & then getting it down themselves that U do would it not?

There is no confusion between 1st party & 3rd party, U guys just need to graduate beyond kindergarten semantics.

Spontaneity, created in the moment, existing in love, is the truth.

Have U got your stuff that far down that U can spontaneously improvise perfectly composed creation in any moment?

Can U be right brain dominant with left brain in autopilot in order to do so, hence using spontaneous whole brain as there really is no left & right brain?

Mera's insights are her own 1st party experience of your 1st party projections just the same as your insights of people U claim to be cointel & here U just fob her off by saying not to add her sensed interpretation of your meaning yet U guys analyze the fuck out of everyone else who writes anything online in whatever way U want & then project it to the world as the Gospel of Arthur & Fiona. Some of your insights are correct & some of them are incorrect . What if she has an even deeper sensed insight of the base mechanistic machinations of what U have projected unconsciously than what U can even consciously see within your own projections? Yet U constantly rigorously claim to have 100% truth about whoever without always having 100% hard physical evidence adding your meaning to what U read of what the whoever 1st party means?

U have not answered all of my questions, that is a blatant LIE, cos if U did U would actually directly & specifically address & answer them spontaneously being present in the current moment instead of doing your nonspecific indirect contrived not in the present moment repetitive programmed NLP copy & paste diatribes that just spam & clog up/constipate the page & completely lose the flow which just ends up as a messy left brain shit farm - would U like me to treat U guys the same as U constantly patronise me like i'm some idiot who knows nothing, by spamming all your threads with the same repeated comments & content regardless of the fact that only 5-10% of the spam is actually directly related to the current direct 1st party to 1st party specific content exchange at hand? Is it possible to have an exchange with Arthur & Fiona with them being directly specific to the content at hand without spamming the thread with irrelevant intellectual polyfiller? There are plenty of my questions that U constantly avoid cos of your limited capability to comprehend them cos U show a lack of capability &/or blatantly refuse to put yourselves under the same rigorous self analyzing microscope as U so zealously scrutinizingly do with others.

When U come & shit all over my wall like this & especially when U troll other posts with your diatribes that are irrelevant to the post content it is the same manners as coming to shit all over my living room.

By all means U are always free to visit & say what U want but it is what it is.

1 June at 09:47

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Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone

Intellectualism means nothing if it is not poignant to the 'isness' of any moment. When are U ever going to learn this?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????!

This is where your tedious goading bible bashing attitudinal approach turns many people right off no matter how good your information is. It is the same as cheap salesman crude but effective advertising that slams people on the radio or TV until it is programmed into their unconscious regardless of whether it is good for them or not. There is nothing intelligent & of 'do no harm' with this type of approach, period. In fact it is of the lowest emotional IQ. When are U people gonna wake up to this huh???????? When U do present truth with such a repetitive contrived fear based programmed approach, U make the whole leaving the system to join Arthur & Fiona growing veges in rented houses using system names at the ass end of Bowral as inspiring as leaving the system to go flourish in a leper colony.

U guys, to use your own words, constantly act as imposters trying to glue your insinuated opinions & claims on me & others, like when U judged me to be light years behind Hannah who lives with U 24/7 & now completely under your trance when U barely know anything about what i do in my life, haven't seen me for years, let alone when we speak i am the one who does most of the listening & U are the one doing most of the talking barely stopping ever to take a proper breath, so when the shoe is on the other foot with me using your own nails to pin U back in your own box & U hypocritically claim me being an imposter trying to glue my claims about U on U.

As for the 480km of travel, your agenda was to use me to get what would have cost U a shitload of cash that by all means i was happy to help U out with for nothing as i have done so with countless people for over 20 years U know absolutely nothing about & U think U know my life from 2 brief visits to my current home, but U were not willing to come my way an inch when it came to practicality re. finishing your songs. If U were not such a control freak & actually listened to what i put on the table re. how to efficiently finish your tracks without compromising any of your artist integrity & all the constant travel U proposed every week or 2, & actually send the files via the net backwards & forwards until a final mix can be done together if needbe, then U would have had a highly professionally made product for nothing achieved years ago.

As for accusing me of being determined to protect Intel, name one name i have mentioned in any of these post/comment threads that i have defended & am trying to protect Arthur & Fiona?

U are the ones' naming names on CIA book here, not I. And I'm not stupid enough to point out and say which ones U are correct about & which ones U arent.

My main concern is not the ones U are correct about, but the ones U are not correct about & the ones U don't have enough substantiated evidence to convincingly sustain your accusations. I am not going to bring attention to such people by naming names cos that causes harm either way.

& bringing unwanted attention to true activists that are friends of mine by making unnecessary examples of them in your own posts here on CIA book without their informed consent so U can use them to further out cointel is just plain disrespectful & dumb cos U end up making these people targets too. This is doing harm. STOP IT! Use your fucking brains, it's not like U don't eat enough vegetables either smh.

If u really care about certain people (& really wish to do them no harm) who are all on our same side essentially at the end of the day, do it privately via inbox or email or off CIA book & not make a public spectacle of them.

As for all forms of cointel, as the old saying goes, the more U fear something the more U WILL attract it.

1 June at 09:48

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Arthur Cristian

This is all your 3rd party mirror going berserk between your ears Stephen.
Best to let all these demons go.
Step out of these reflections and bond with the living first parties.

You make claims of fear but there is NO FEAR here being performed with the first parties Fiona and Arthur Cristian.

The only people being turned off are those still lost in the reflections of third party non-sense - they are NOT the first parties. Is why we offered Essense Mera a phone chat so she can have a direct experience with us.

You are not witnessing the massive flow of people writing to us, ringing us, emailing us, visiting us, etc, every "day".

Am sure Hannah would love to have a chat with you about your claims about Hannah.

We all did what had to be done for the music to flow between us. We have no hard feelings with you about anything. What we did is what we did. There is NOTHING to be wrong about what you did or what we did. Like we've said many times before, we have no attachment to any e-motional outcomes with you. We truly are very grateful for your contributions to the project.

This whose right and whose wrong is the reflections in the mirror - they are not coming from the first parties Arthur and Fiona. When people make claims about us without having any first party evidence to support what they are saying, we ask them for first party evidence. Should we sit back and say nothing? When we see the harm in people's work and that it is most definitely NOT leading to true freedom (only to "system freedom" - refer to posts in this thread), should we sit back and say nothing? Aren't we all in the state we are in because of people sitting back and saying nothing? Will you not stand up and point out harm where you see it so that the harm may be stopped? Or will you sit back and say nothing so as not to ruffle any feathers? Do you think that nothing good is coming from our work? Should we not stir up all the mud so that it can brought to the surface for everyone to examine and learn from and never allow that mud (trauma, reactions to trauma) to be there again?

Can you demonstrate the fear in our work? Can you repeat the words that we say? This is why we write to Max - he never addresses anything in our work, just makes attacks on who we are when he doesn't even know us! Why can't he look at what we write and what we offer and scrutinise that? Why can't he be impartial? Why does he have to make everything personal - and it is not just us saying that this is how he behaves. He is acting as a victim now but he won't take full responsibility for his upset. We are not upset! We all have to be bigger than this if we are ever to get out of the mud (the third party reflections in the mirror).

The NWO is already being played out through the Psyops Programs being waged against us by many, many, hundreds of Intel Operatives - Destroying the Psyops Programs neuters the influence Intel Agents have over all of us who are really waking up to the REAL tactics of a war being waged against all of us. The work we do IS the Empowering that bonds all our brothers/sisters together into being the mass exodus out of "The System" forevermore. Then there is no more fighting.

There is a choice of either people standing together in nature with NO SYSTEM all around us or of people standing together bound to "The System" all around us. We live for MAN being bound to nature - we refuse MAN being bound to "The System" under the guise of being "natural".

When we see anything that binds people to "The System", consciously or not, we come in to point it out and yes, we know that all the barbs that have been thrown at us over the years come with the territory, usually because people don't like having their feathers ruffled, don't like having their apathy, fear, denial and distrust, etc, pointed out. And no, this is not judgemental. We never say that we are better than anyone else or that we don't have trauma and egos, etc. We have never met anyone who doesn't. Those who don't won't be on the internet or in "The System". They are already in Paradise.

All your questions have been answered, Stephen, either directly to you or in the posts we have been putting up this year. You obviously don't want to come out here so we will try to come and visit you, it just may take some time to organise as we are extremely busy, as can be witnessed by the fact it took us almost 5 days to reply to Max, and can be very challenging to find a day to take out.

There are 7 of us here, 4 of them children who take up a lot of our time every day. Then there is the garden, the home, the dogs, then there are the visitors and the phone calls, and the emails and the website, and the recording studio, You Tube, Facebook and all the other responsibilities that take up a lot of our waking life everyday to keep everything running under our present circumstances. We already have a backlog and this will intensify if we go for the day.

We are not asking for sympathy here as we willingly do what we do. The pressure comes with the territory and we do the best we can every day to meet all the demands of our dreams being set into motion. These responsibilities make it very challenging to find the space to disappear because we do not leave the house unattended, considering all the attempts of breaking and entering, etc, that we have had to deal with. You might call this fear but we call it responsibility. We have to stick to our priorities and fit other things in as we can and say no to the things we can't handle at this point.

We get it that you are busy too, so let's see what comes and meet up when we can.

Both of us are writing to you here and we have a reply that has been hanging over our heads for 2 weeks or so now so we will leave this thread and get back to it. It is challenging for us to get together to write, as we are both often occupied with other things but we have some "time" now so we will get back to it.

1 June at 17:02

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Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone

There is no point even discussing or addressing anything with either of U, thanks for epitomizing that yet again & completely missing & subterfuging from the entire point with your response. I won't be wasting any more of my time nor insulting my own intelligence dealing with your utter hypocrisy on so many levels that U either seem essentially blind of or in complete denial yourselves.

1 June at 17:15

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Arthur Cristian

People are really waking up to the real Intel Psyop Program tactics going on EVERYWHERE - What you see being posted here https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203726940962098 particularly during those days when we were not on FB, is just the tip of the iceberg of the influx of correspondence coming in from men and women all-across-Earth. What you are experiencing is the REAL awakening going on. They are waking up to/from THE PSYOPS PROGRAMS that have done their heads in - Max Igan's Psyop Program is redundant and has entered the NWO scrapyard as a failure. More to come until all Intel Operatives Psyop Programs are completely destroyed.

We live so others may live for what we live for too!

1 June at 18:00

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Arthur Cristian

To repeat......

The NWO is already being played out through the Psyops Programs being waged against us by many, many, hundreds of Intel Operatives - Destroying the Psyops Programs neuters the influence Intel Agents have over all of us who are really waking up to the REAL tactics of a war being waged against all of us. The work we do IS the Empowering that bonds all our brothers/sisters together into being the mass exodus out of "The System" forevermore. Then there is no more fighting.

There is a choice of either people standing together in nature with NO SYSTEM all around us or of people standing together bound to "The System" all around us. We live for MAN being bound to nature - we refuse MAN being bound to "The System" under the guise of being "natural".

1 June at 18:02

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Arthur Cristian

As people wake up to the psyop programs, they will be asking some serious questions of their brothers and sisters as to what their motives were for deceiving all of us and what they could be doing to make up for their support of our slavery. When Kindoms are up and running, there will be a sanctuary for system shepherds and lackeys to come to, to join with the rest of us in co-creating paradise again. Let's hope the Kindoms are ready and enough of us have woken up enough to the fact that revenge does nothing but harm those who seek it! We have already pointed this out to Ivana.

1 June at 18:22

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Essence Mera

What do you mean?

"There is a choice of either people standing together in nature with NO SYSTEM all around us or of people standing together bound to "The System" all around us. We live for MAN being bound to nature - we refuse MAN being bound to "The System" under the guise of being "natural"."

Every living condition is constraint to a system be it natural or sociological or economical....every living condition for man is bound to a system. It is in Man to be evolutionary. Perhaps clarify the system...

There will always be a system

There will always be a society made up of group individuals..

There will always be evolution ..

Man is bound to nature regardless of the system..it's seems you are touching on nature sociological system for man?

1 June at 19:49

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Essence Mera

"As people wake up to the psyop programs, they will be asking some serious questions of their brothers and sisters as to what their motives were for deceiving all of us and what they could be doing to make up for their support of our slavery."

It sounds like Man trying to lead by pre empathises the outcome...is that what you mean?

By creation man is a natural evolutionist.. By that it is natural for him to charge or take lead when he is in his evolutionary cycle. The risk of pre emphasising the outcome makes this system's lead same as the current system conditioning.

Letting things unfold naturally is probably what your meaning to communicate?

There is a lot in your system that can be questioned but I haven't got any more time to pick more..I personally think it's healthy for a system to never be completely 100% becuase Man wouldn't need to be evolutionary if anything was 100% other than nature....I agree with Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone
It's your approach which for me personally puts me off... You come across dictating. If your not with ego then you would gladly take constructive criticism to better synch your system.

1 June at 20:14

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Arthur Cristian

Everything of 3rd party education is a lie, is fraud. Evolution does not exist. All man-made constructs do not exist. Belief is not proof of fact. We all have free will. Where we all go with our thinking, feelings/e-motions, dreaming, etc, so goes the whole of the dream of life. The buck stops with MAN (all of us). All of life is at the effect of 1st parties. Evolution is not a 1st party. Truth comes through direct experience 1st party to 1st party. Re-presenting (belief in) "intellectual property" is all 3rd party non-sense. Did the sensory life-form tell you directly first party to first party that it was a daffodil and is yellow or did another MAN put these ideas/thoughts/images (intellectual property) into your head? We all commit fraud and are lying when we act as a 3rd party (impostor) of a 1st party. Outside of all our ancestors being invaded, decimated, ridiculed, abused, raped, pillaged, plundered, traumatised, etc, the worst thing ever done to all their descendants (us) was education/instruction/explanation. We were all meant to be an unique/original MAN. This is all explained in great detail in the Love For Life videos, articles, debates/discussions, podcasts, etc. Refer to the Sequential Order for a helpful starting place. Go here and scroll down to find it: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6608.

1 June at 22:57

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Essence Mera

""Everything of 3rd party education is a lie,"

yes I agree

"Evolution does not exist."

This is linked under different specific topics for me to respond I would need further specific clarifications. For example if you are referring to nature you only have to look to see how plants, trees, even babies grow from seeds to their full maturity.. It gets a bit hazy here because maturity constraints is questionable under different topics. In terms of growths from seeds to babies onwards at each growths level the subject has experienced an evolution of maturity and growths. This is just a brief example as to why I am unclear on your system as it does not clarify simply provides a scale of journalising using resonating terminology in some instance for example.. The term E-man I find that resonating and accurate to describe by essence what MAN is and should be..I would rather not provide my own recognition of this term because I sense you to be far from the garden and used as means of obtaining information from others... You have been given terms to place out into the FB lake for people to recognise and correct your unrecognised detention of this term. ( sincere apologises to you if I sound rude as that is not my intentions, I do recognise you with intent to be aiming to recreate a garden existence and that is a good thing in its self)

"All man-made constructs do not exist."

How do you explaining communicating to me on this forum? Again I am unclear on your meaning

"Belief is not proof of fact. "
??

"We all have free will."

Questionable under the current globule political and economical conditioning. Etc etc etc

"Where we all go with our thinking, feelings/e-motions, dreaming, etc, so goes the whole of the dream of life. "

This is a fancy programming sentence which you inserted after inserting questionable and un-clarified sentences before it...designed to clam and sway the reader to your understanding"

"The buck stops with MAN (all of us). All of life is at the effect of 1st parties. Evolution is not a 1st party. Truth comes through direct experience 1st party to 1st party. Re-presenting (belief in) "intellectual property" is all 3rd party non-sense"

By the time I read this sentence ... I understand where your going with it...but at this point your lost your point in getting this across becuase you haven't clarified anything with concrete value..for example there is not 'feeling' in your words, it's not even spirit..your voice is louder than your message.

"Did the sensory life-form tell you directly first party to first party that it was a daffodil and is yellow or did another MAN put these ideas/thoughts/images (intellectual property) into your head? We all commit fraud and are lying when we act as a 3rd party (impostor) of a 1st party."

what ? I don't know who and what meaning you mean by 1st party or party, party ?? I am confused

"Outside of all our ancestors being invaded, decimated, ridiculed, abused, raped, pillaged, plundered, traumatised, etc, the worst thing ever done to all their descendants (us) was education/instruction/explanation. We were all meant to be an unique/original MAN."

This is just fancy talk which contradicts the statement you made about free will .for example.. Did I choose this? No..did you ? I would say no.. But things like rape, starvation, killings etc etc exists and so I technically have no free will rather ones the system tells me when and what I can choose. I exist within a condition which was chosen by people before me and the free will I have now is constraints or none at all. My free choice is I choose none of it but it still exists.

On a final note ...

I read your link about Hannah and I offended.. What kind of man are you?? Why would you parade her suffering and pain as a good story to promote your fallen distorted idea of Man and his garden. You lost any reservation I had about you after I saw the first paragraph about poor Hannah. You brained washed her and used her to enrich your fake fallen system.., do you consider your self to be a 'MAN ' or even an 'E'- Man... I feel you to be a repressed control freak! Had you not used poor Hannah like that to self gain then I would have attempted to take you seriously and try and understand your stupid system which is in fact far from the garden of Earth. Again no offence but you come across like a man with small dick syndrome.. Next time think twice about parading Hannah's suffering and pain... All it did was show you up as a fallen man! Becuase of this stupid parade you did you lost it so I won't be making any more comments. Go back back to authenticity.

2 June at 00:07

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Arthur Cristian

You are acting as a 3rd party of Hannah - all your thoughts and pull of e-motions are just that, 3rd party. They do not come from us, we are not the source of such effects - they come from you and whatever life-experience you have been exposed to thus far. Subtle or not, when others are passing the buck they are indicating a "victim mentality" derived from trauma. Being strangers, you have placed a lot of responsibility on us for how you think, feel, behave, react, perform, etc, which often indicates "mind games" or someone deeply traumatised. Then there is the red rag waving at the bull syndrome on offer in your writings too. Thanks for the e---go con-test offer, but no thanks.

Come and meet the first party Hannah, come and meet the first party Fiona, Arthur, Jasmin, Frances, Xanthe, Bruno, Ricardo, etc..., come and have a direct experience, first party to first party, with the living, and get the truth of their real lives directly from the first parties. Without it you have nothing bar the reflections in the mirror of your "own" making. This is fact. You have not lived with us, have not had any intense private dealings with us, have not been injured by us or ripped off by us either, etc, so your present concerns, views, opinions, about us are make-believe and if you continue on this path you are party to fraud, lying and slander.

Everything of "The System" is cult based (make-believe), politics, education, law, religions, race, culture, science, sport, etc. We live to be free from being under someone else's (each other's) image power. This is all about a mass exodus from "The System" of organ-i-sed cults, sects, societies, think tanks, orders, fraternities, publics, "herd-mentalities", etc.

Playing with "mental gymnastics" as you offer, is not what we are into, as this is all about playing "mind (my----in-d) games of image power which leads to conflict and chaos. Thanks for the offer but no thanks. We don't have the spare waking life to have a "sword fight" with you. We are NOT into worshipping or defending "personality cults".

All our work is explained in great detail, is in plain sight, we provide full-disclosure, and it explains everything about the big picture we live/dream for. You do not have agree with any of it and you do not have to have us and our dreams in your life. However, it's up to you if you want to step outside of what you already know to enter what you don't know and go from there. We are not here to change you. We are not rescuers. We are not your leader or your master or your guru or god, etc, and you are not ours either. Generally speaking, we are not answerable to you as you are not answerable to us. We encourage everyone to take full-responsibility for everything they think, feel and do. We recognise that no MAN is master of another MAN, that all of MAN is equal to all of MAN, that we are all unique and original (pre extensive brainwashing), not "one" the same as the next. This all requires the virtues of love set into motion. All the thoughts, ideas, opinions in the world are useless if people don't take full responsibility for setting into motion everything they think, feel and do.

You are most welcome to sense (direct experience touch, taste, feel, smell, hear, see) our intentions, to sense who we really are, what drives us, what we live for and where we are heading. We seek to do you and all of MAN no harm. Yes, "since 2005", we've really woken up in the midst of being deeply compromised but this does not faze us. We are getting on with getting out of this mess. We do what we can one step at a time until we have co-created a living paradise all around.

We are all working towards being free from being under each other. There is a way forward to get out of all this mess - many of us have worked this out and are coming together to create a living remedy we call Kindom. It is a gradual step by step transition. Here is one of them.

From Bare Dirt To Abundance
A Year In The Life Of The
Love For Life Food Forest
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
8th February 2013
51 Minutes 46 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A

The Steps Of Kindom
2006/2007
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

It's all in the doing - all the talking/writing/thinking, etc, is just that. To us, we need to live it, to walk-the-talk, to be the freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, do no harm, etc.......

If you have a remedy that provides freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, do no harm, no loss of uniqueness/originality, no slaves and rulers for everyone and everything of nature please share that with us, we will be very interested because this is our passion, is what we live for. Refer to the Steps Of Kindom (we plan to rewrite and update this 2006/2007 remedy over the coming 12 months or so). Out of the over 200 million unique visitors/ip-addressees that visited the Love For Life website since Dec 2006 and out of the hundreds of thousands of emails we've received (up to 1000 emails still come in every day - lots of rubbish included) and everyone else we've corresponded with over Facebook & YouTube, and particularly all the many friendships we've formed across Earth thanks to the Ringing Cedars books (links provided below), there is more than one hundred thousand men and women who have already really woken up and are on the Kindom path. We are not alone.

We wish you all the best, that all your do no harm dreams come true. That all the tools you have will create what you dream for, assuming you live to do no harm to others.

2012-2013-2014 Re-Written English Version Of Ringing Cedars Books 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8a, 8b (9), 10
https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=56f3aac87fe83d0f&id=56F3AAC87FE83D0F%2118...

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Arthur Cristian

We just watched this video about how to create a mind-control cult. Excellent and spot on. However the makers of this video are already part of a cult, are already practising the oc-cults before, during and after making this video. All the education, instruction and explanation they/we have received since sperm & egg is already the effects of the oc-cults upon us and we continue setting into motion the deep-seated psyop programming of the oc-cults upon us and upon everyone and everything all around us = "The System" of an occultic program.

It just shows us why we have to set into motion the Kindom remedy that stops us educating, instructing and explaining everything to our children. The only way to break this ocCULT stranglehold over us is to set each other free from each other but to do that we have to recognise and let go of our ocCULT trauma, the pull of e-motions of someone else's ocCULT-i-c image power in our heads that we have been dancing to, as well as working hard to clean up the damage we have all been party to.

"The System" is a cult, a program that tell us how we should live, how we should think, etc. It is an occult in itself.

An oc-cult.

While we have to use the occults, the tools of "The System" CULT, to get out of this, so long as we are clear in our intention to expand the light of the Kindom remedy (NO SYSTEM OF A CULT) at the end of the tunnel, the mass exodus from "The System" CULT, we will get there so that our children and our children's children are free from this CULT and we have stopped the power of the occults over all of us.

This requires a strong group of people committed no matter what and without doubt about each other and what they are doing, as well as being strong enough to withstand being called a cult, which we undoubtedly will be.

We are called a cult now when we are just a family + 1!

Those who attack people breaking away do so because they do not want to let go of "The System" CULT and do not have a remedy to "The System" CULT . They do not want us to leave the CULT of "The System", THEIR CULT.

This is why 2006-2007 we created The Steps of Kindom, a breaking away from "The System" CULT forevermore, a present-sense (being conscious) living remedy that focuses on do no harm and life is a gift.

This shuts people up because how can they attack do no harm and life is a gift!

How can that be a cult?!

To put the nail in the coffin of the dead and send them back to their dead ocCULTic world with their tail between their legs, we ask them for their remedy that provides freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, do no harm, no loss of uniqueness/originality and no slaves and rulers for everyone and everything = NO SYSTEM OF A CULT. By confronting them, we are showing them that they have nothing except "THE SYSTEM CULT to offer us.

This makes our intentions very clear and is not something people can really argue with if they are honest. If they are not, they will continue to fight for their oc-CULTic belief systems and continue to attack anything/anyone who threatens them.

AND, confronting them with these do no harm life is a gift remedy questions exposes them right out in the open for all to see. They have NOWHERE to hide............. enter Kate Of Gaia, Max Igan, Mark Darwin, David Icke, Michael Tsarion, George Green, Benjamin Fulford, Alex Jones, Santos Bonacci, Marl Passio, Zeitgeist, Thrive, Ubuntu, OPPT, Michael Tellinger, "Oneness Consciousness/One Earth" this or that, Deepak Chopra, David Wilcock, David Woolfe, Project Camelot/Project Avalon Bill & Kerrie, Mike Adams, Quantum Physics, System Science, Oprah Winfrey, Barack Obama, Queen Elizabeth, Prince William, EU, UN, NATO, WTO, WHO, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, ..... :) <3

Mind Control Cults
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnNSe5XYp6E

The Steps Of Kindom
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life 2006/2007
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

Routing Out Psyop Programs
Routs Out Intel Operatives
Kate of Gaia, Max Igan & Mark Darwin

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 31st May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8524

Wednesday 4th June 2014 10.30pm

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Arthur Cristian

Hannah has asked us to post this here as she is not a FB friend of Stephen's or Essense Mera to do so......

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Hannah Wood

Stephen You said –

‘‘U guys, to use your own words, constantly act as imposters trying to glue your insinuated opinions & claims on me & others, like when U judged me to be light years behind Hannah who lives with U 24/7 & now completely under your trance ….’’

Could you please bring forward the first party evidence to support what you are saying about me here? Can you provide first party evidence to support that I am under Arthur and Fiona's trance?

Essence Mera You said –

“…..You brained washed her and used her to enrich your fake fallen system.., do you consider your self to be a 'MAN ' or even an 'E'- Man...”

Again, can you please bring forward the evidence to support this claim you have made about me in this situation you claim to be true? You have never even met me, neither Arthur or Fiona.

Hannah
https://www.facebook.com/1hannahwood

Wednesday 4th June 2014 11.13pm

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Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone

My profile is public so anyone can make a comment. Arthur, why don't U re-read the comment where U wrote it, or maybe Fiona wrote it re. Hannah. Otherwise, just fuck off. I have no more time or energy to waste on U & your hypocritical bullshit.

17 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

It was written in context to your consistent "e-motional" outbursts - you are most definitely not thinking clear/straight, but obviously you will be in denial about all of this writing of yours in 3rd party too. As far as we are concerned you have had consistent strong tendencies to make things "personal" most of the time with us and you keep doing it. Such is the way of a "victim" mentality aligning with a "conflict" that ONLY goes on in-between your ears and no where else. You spend more "time" re-acting with us than co-creating with us. THIS IS FACT.

As far as we are concerned the fact you continually make things personal, which you do when writing in 3rd party, clearly reveals you have very little confidence in backing up your arguments, your views, as in finding fault in what we actually say/write in first party, so instead you default back into 3rd party to go after the MAN (Arthur & Fiona) cause that is all you've got left.

YOU ARE DEALING WITH BOTH OF US STEPHEN.

Pride is a big mother fucker with you Stephen.

Like we said, we are keen to meet up with you and the three of us having a long sincere brother-to-brother chat. We will let you know when a window of opportunity presents down-the-line and we will be back in contact with you. And yes, Hannah has made a huge effort to stop doing this, to stop being bogged down in 3rd party conflicts that goes on in between her ears. She is not out of the woods yet, but we are witnessing a young girl who has much longer periods of joy, happiness, contentment, peace, focus, etc, than she used to. As a child, Hannah was deeply damaged, no wonder she had many episodes of facing suicide and consistent sabotage of things important to her, habits going on for many many years well before we met her, and she has done all this hard work off her "own" back. All we've done is not buy into any of it while setting an example of how to handle life (behave) without having to "self"-implode. Hannah's confidence has grown a lot and she is now confronting her parents, her sister and brother with the intention to make whole with her family so they can all move on together happy, etc, without regrets etc. To us witnessing this is an eye opener.

14 hours ago

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Essence Mera

You are talking about your self Arthur. What your doing is very harmful but you can't see it because your stuck in a fallen system..open your eyes, so you can see listen to hear with your ears..feel the damage you are causing. I replied to Hannah privately in response to the private message she sent. Please stop forcing your will on us to given into your distorted system. The answer is no thanks. Do you understand?

15 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

The last post was not finished - we pressed enter to early. Refresh this webpage/thread.

15 hours ago

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Essence Mera

I am seriously going against my first feeling which was I did not wish to make any further comments to you Arthur and Fiona no matter what you came back with. I feel very lead to point out to you the harm you are directing here towards Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone by attacking him repeatedly.

In this attempt I make to communicate with you I hope you two can recognise how you are not actually 'hearing' him which is causing you to miss his communication instead playing out the victim vs victimiser game.

My gut feeling tells me you know exactly what you are doing in terms of tactics which you seem to gain enjoyment from, happy to be trapped under the illusion manipulation causing you not to recognise what you are actually 'saying' which is part of your distortion. I can evidence this by quoting some of your own comments...because you enjoy attacking others I want to show you why from foundation level you are not in synch with natural laws of creation based on your approach. Which is contrary to what you declare..

To begin with...

On the 13th of May at 5:59am
"Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone wrote this to you both Fiona and Arthur...he stated:

"Your information isn't the problem here, in fact most of it is very correct but for the parts that U don't know everything, just like anyone else doesnt know absolutely everything, your approach to projecting & sharing your information is really not that different to how religious fundamentalists do their 'my way or the highway' thing is it not? Your overall whole approach in this regard could do with some diligent revision could it not? Cos at the moment your approach in this regard is doing more to shoot your information in the foot with both barrels....something I sense very strongly that the man & woman that be that which U is/are here need to seriously consider."

Fiona on the 18th of May at 8:36 you replied to Gozaimasu by starting with some flowered words than you said this...

"We are like a large squad of police/detectives raiding a suspect's home for evidence, searching every nook and cranny of the house thoroughly. We leave no stone unturned in our search for truth because we know that only truth will get us out of the hell that is "The System". If anyone can show us where we are wrong in what we say, we are happy to clean up and move on because we are not attached to the work we do, although we will protect it "

Do you recognise how you are not hearing him and what you actually said publicly?? you basically said you are like a squad police raiding targets/suspect homes who are of interest to you...leaving no stone unturned searching, seeking and looking for information for the truth?? (By the way squad police take what they find without asking the suspects permission since you are not actually police officers this would be called stealing)

You are technically declaring....Your information which you founded your kingdom and system on...placing your selves Fiona and Arthur as the MAN and WOMAN of your kingdom does not belong to you as it is founded based on stolen information forcefully taken from others by means of your approach which you describe as "squad police" tactics. You force your will on people and steal from them? This is how you build your system ? This is the under lining of your kingdom (remember that) this is based on what you commented...does it remind you of anything?

Fiona and Arthur on the 18th of May at 8:37 you made a new comment and stated your intent... You said

"Our intention is to destroy the psyop programming that causes all the conflicts of "name", including the petty character bashing you are engaging in right now. How does your post help us all achieve the peace and freedom we all dream for? Can we come to your home and see how it is applied? Or at least some practical steps being implemented."

Do you recognise what your saying?....you speak for your selves... You subtly tell your targets/ suspects how you are going to steal from them and what your here to do..

Under the same comment box dated the 18th of May at 8:37 Fiona you also said:

"It appears that all you are doing is trying to create conflict, rather than seeing what we can do to work together to create lives we all dream of, lives of peace, freedom, joy, etc. Conflict has no place in lives such as these so why are you putting so much effort into creating conflict?"

Do you see it here?
You are basically telling him that he should be happy that you are trying to raid him.

In a new comment box also dated the 18th of May at 8:37 Fiona and Arthur wrote:

"If our information is "mostly correct", then why are you having a go at us? If you would like to point out where our information is not correct, we would be interested in hearing what you have to say to see if there is something we need to learn, as we have said above. We have never said that we know everything, and we repeatedly say that we want to continue learning everything we need to learn to shake off the system shackles. Is there a problem with this?"

Arthur and Fiona the above quote from your comment plus the comment boxes you made on the 18th of May at 8:38 plus at 8:39 what you did..

You spewed an attack on Gozaimasu While declaring your selves saints for trying to do the right thing and indicating your selves to be his victims and declaring friendship while attacking him for not buying into your system completely... He has already told you that most of your information is not the issue it was your 'approach'....but that seemed not enough for you? As you went on the rampage by using victim Vs victimiser game a cheap mind control and submission tactics.. I find this very peculiar why did you feel the need to continue to do that?

Do you feel you need his 100% approval for your kingdom and system? Why are you not satisfied with part approval?

For your own clarity sake.....This is what you specifically do...You bash with repeated long comments until you hook your target by using mind control tactics specifically designed for social networks discourse engagement programmed to get people to converse with you...you keep them hooked by using cheap Victim victimiser tactics to evoke defence entry point into your target so they lash out at you by using natural defence spewing out information as reaction to you sadly not realising they are giving you information...and you continue and continue until you take all you can from your target... This is one of your tactics this is how you act as rampaging squad officers, forcing entry and steal information from people as you admitted your selves.

Your last long comment on the 4 of May

"As far as we are concerned the fact you continually make things personal, which you do when writing in 3rd party".

Again same tactics...this is you two trying to evoke a reaction from Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone playing the "poor me/us" role

"clearly reveals you have very little confidence in backing up your arguments, your views, as in finding fault in what we actually say/write in first party".

Goading for information

"so instead you default back into 3rd party to go after the MAN (Arthur & Fiona) cause that is all you've got left. "

Now you made your selves a victim of Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone again...do you see your victim victimiser tactic... You should re- read his comments as well as yours to find recognition of your own contradiction and hypocrisy.. This time try and 'Hear' what he is telling you... He has been a lot more kinder to you considering how you keep trying to evoke a reaction out of him playing the victim victimiser game.

Then you declare an invitation for a visit at your convenience and use Hannah again??to justify your abuse and distorted system.

3 hrs

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Essence Mera

In terms of your turn around you declared over 200million people viewing your website.. I do not wish to sound like I am belittling your successes. .. it would curious if you didn't get even a minority number of people looking at your websites and system.

Considering the fact that since 2006 onwards especially in 2009 there has been an influx of people experiencing a spiritual awakening/ calling or what ever you wish to call it... The build up to the end of the Mayan calendar has been the concrete inspiration or means of interest which lead the curiosity of many pre 2012 as well as other factors including 9/11. In that respect there is a great deal amount of people who will look at all sorts of spiritual related systems seeking to clench this wave which is likely to continue to grow.

Growing number of people began seeking before many others did there is a lot of people who shifted from one system to the next looking and learning seeking for what fits or truth or what ever..you will find a lot of people will recognise what's distorted and what's not..because of their personal experiences as well as because of all the seeking they did for ex amount of years... Not everyone is going to give you 100% thumbs up. You have to accept that stop and take count and address the things you are not hearing... Don't just hear not what resonates for you..instead of attacking those who try to help you by willingly giving you constructive criticism based on their own years of seeking, experiences and learning.

On a final note and to provide you with clarity as to why your approach is harmful to others.. Firstly your victim Vs victimiser tactics and Going back to how you described your selves as "squad police"...and To define where your system approach is synched based on what you said.

We all know Police officers take what they find when searching a suspects property..you are not police officers under the current majority globule social system you would be regarded as breaking the laws by impersonating police officers which is a criminal offence and technically you should be arrested. Also because you are forcing entry as well as taking things/information which don't belong to you making you a thief..that's three counts criminal offence:

1) impersonating police officers
2) forcing an entry
3) theft.

On a living 3d level you have admitted to criminal offence on three counts which includes force, theft as well as impersonating.

When you look at this on a spiritual level you force your will on other individual's will, space causing constraints which goes against the natural laws of creation and divine birth rights of free will.

By that you present strong indication that your approach creation tool when building the foundation of your kingdom of which forms your tower is not in line with spirit (but you promote spirituality) or in synch with the rest of the natural creation laws in respecting free will but rather in line and in synch with the current globule social conditioning properties. In the spirit of things becuase you impose on free will by force it means you are not in synch with natural laws of creation.

What you basically said Fiona shows that your foundational approach is in line and in synch with the unnatural system created in this living condition. Trying to synch it with the spirit creating conflict with the natural laws of creation... This is why your kingdom of Babylon is fallen.

This living condition of which is based on law and order as well as monetary applications formed as means of controlling the masses. Which fundamentally places ongoing growing strains and constraints on Free will in the living restricting the individual's experiences and free flow within planet Earth. In conclusion the danger in terms of your approach is created at from foundation level is, it is in synch with unnatural laws created in the living conditioning. What ruling class do is they lie to us, they force their laws on us, restricting our movements, placing growing strains on our free will in the living by using the monetary system etc Everything you promote as spiritual in your website and everything you say has no real spirt or feelings..because from foundation level it was built by an approach tool in line and in synch with the distortion, illusions and manipulation created in 3d.

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Arthur Cristian

Stephen, some who are not your FB friends are writing to us saying they can't post comments on your wall, in this thread. Can you fix this and post a comment here when this is sorted. Some are even asking to be your FB friend so they can get involved in this discussion. Good on you for leaving everything out in the open for the wider-public to participate.

1 hr

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The Cristian Family November 2006

Facebook Comments Referring To Part One Of This Thread

Link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203677889935853

Karl Grubmayr SO TRUE, I LOVE YOU.

10 May at 18:06

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Russell Williams

Have you personally met any of those whom you accuse, like Aussies Igan and Bonnaci and debated their alleged links?

10 May at 18:34

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Dominic Toomey

what garbage to take out, there would be no garbage and no dishes to wash."we" need to rewind before "we" were typecast as actors.

10 May at 18:34

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Arthur Cristian

Nigel Beckwith posted: Is it possible that "some" people can just be wrong, barking up the wrong tree..have a difference of opinion..without necessarily working directly for the system? Just a thought. I meet people all the time who clearly hate the system, but espouse some of its programming in trying to create a solution. I just think many of those are misguided.

We replied.......

We agree, some are like this = e-go trips but INTEL like Max Igan and Mark Darwin are another kettle of fish. Suggest doing a google inside the Love For Life website for these names and explore the info shared. There is a lot of reading and watching to do. We don't just post comments like these unless we've done our homework and are clear about what is really going on Nigel. We have had dealings with Mark Darwin since 2009 and Max Igan 2010/2011. Nigel, you know us better than most cause you have been involved with us since 2005 and have witnessed a lot of water go under the bridge since then. The heightened bullshit detectors through a vast aray of learning experiences has refined our abilties to zoom in and observe what is really going on with PSYOPS PRORAMS.

10 May at 18:36

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Russell Williams

Hey Arthur. You're back. That was quick.

10 May at 18:37

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Arthur Cristian

Russell, We've been dealing with Santos from afar for almost 2.5 years now. He wrote to us back then and afer asking him some tough questions he avoided us ever since, he backed off. He wanted to interview us on his radio show but we gave him full-disclosure as we are not into being sneeky. We prefer everything up front, all cards on the table. Not heard from him until a few weeks ago but we've been reading some of his material and watching some of his videos. Recently we chatted with Santos over the phone and again pointed out that almost everything he is on about to us is bullshit. It has been left for him to make a "time" suitable for the three of us to have a long discussion/debate which will be recorded. We are still waiting but he is busy like we are. Lets see if he makes this happen. Earlier this week Santos supporters contacted Santos to see what was happening with this pending Skype discussion. You will find these intense pro Santos supporter discussions on the FB wall - scroll down to find them.

10 May at 18:44

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Russell Williams

Good response Arthur. Well I guess well have to see if he fronts up and puts it on record. What about Max. Comes across fairly fair dinkum, but who know. It's not much different with you.. How do we know you too are not on the payroll?

10 May at 18:51

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Maria Maria

thank you

10 May at 18:59

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Dominic Toomey

because he's advocating no system hence no payroll

10 May at 19:12

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Dominic Toomey

what do you need money four?

10 May at 19:13

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Dominic Toomey

for,fore,faugh,forr

10 May at 19:13

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Spinny Spirals

Lol lmao..Russell...have you actually read Arthur and Fiona's work ??...:0)))

10 May at 19:15

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Russell Williams

I've read some of it yes. A lot of it great .. Like you, I tend take everything and everyone with a grain of salt. No ones got it all figured out, though the sign posts amongst the forest and trees are becoming more evident each day, as each moment goes by. Depends how one chooses to interpret immutable, unchanging Natural Law and how it connects with universal consciousness of everything.. Good luck all, I wish you all you well.

10 May at 19:38

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Arthur Cristian

Spinny, he doesn't sense as he reads - if he did he would see/sense clearly in our writings that we live for MANS true freedom. The replies to Jeanice and Capri in this post make this very very very clear. But each to their "own" hey.

10 May at 19:39

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Dominic Toomey

there's nothing too figure out,it's all a lie

10 May at 19:39

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Dominic Toomey

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10 May at 19:40

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Arthur Cristian

Nigel Beckwith

Well I love you. I don't always agree with what you say. But in your dealings with me I have always found you to be honest and earnest.

I think that many things can have alternate interpretations that do not condemn. But if you have seen something then so be it.

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Arthur Cristian

It's very very very clear in the writings, in this post too. These recent posts clearly exposes the PSYOP tactics right out in the open for all to see.

Have you read our replies to Jeanice and Caprice in this post and are you fully-comprehending what we've been sharing these past few months?

Are your eyes/senses wide open or are you still wearing a milder version of rose coloured glases?

We have clearly revealed to you the PSYOP TACTICS, how they create, implement and get the results they want.

What more do you want?

We don't ask you to agree with us but we ask you to find fault in what we're saying, to prove/back it with evidence, and we're not talking about bringing forth "belief" because you know they're not proof of fact.

10 May at 19:59

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Ricardo Almeida

Well I'm going to throw in what I've come to sense over time with all this stuff and in discussions with friends. All these people that talk about one-ness, collective, galactic federations, aliens, crystals, chakras, healing, geometry, shapes, secret societies, royalty and royal bloodlines, timelines, ages of darkness and golden ages, etc don't help me get out of the mess I've managed to get myself into.

While its all warm and fuzzy hearing about it all, if i can't feel with in myself its a clear indication that its a possible step closer to freedom and freedom of choice is not freedom. Love, abundance and peace then its not worth my energy, my time and my thoughts at all. Trying to work out the system and all its bullshit is just going to keep me longer in servitude. The way I've come to feel about the choices we have is, take the system and all the benefits/comforts/conveniences etc it has to offer but don't also winge/gripe/hate/cry about the bad parts of it.

After all its our shit we a swimming in OR get out/turn our backs on it all ...the system is the problem and the system is all we have in our heads. It's drummed into us from birth to death. It's on the tv, in the news, in newspapers, radio, etc, I mean come on ... we are born.

Then educated in the system way by our parents (not that they know any better) then straight to kindy to start brainwashing. Then at the end of the assembly line (once we do all the "tests" to regurgitate what they want to hear . get your asses to uni and/or work. Then work until your old and go sit in a corner until you keel over. There is something wrong with this so called life...

We give enough energy/time/labour/blood/life too to the system but in the end it does nothing but take life. That's all it does. Just take our life and we freely give it what it wants.

10 May at 20:09

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Mark DuBois

Perfectly stated, Ricardo. Yo Arthur, note he didn't need to cite any references. And he has more credibility than you do.

10 May at 20:16

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Mark DuBois

"Spinny, he doesn't sense as he reads - if he did he would see/sense clearly in our writings that we live for MANS true freedom." So now, you're THE expert on "true freedom'? Then why is Ricardo more free than you are? You're a liar, Arthur. THAT is a fact.

10 May at 20:29

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Mark DuBois

You keep the fuck off my friends walls or I'll rip you a new asshole, every time.

10 May at 20:48

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Spinny Spirals Wow...:0(((((

10 May at 21:09

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Andrew Gardiner

The world is in a downward spiral Bible prophecy and supernatural phenomenon is exciting

10 May at 21:14

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Dominic Toomey

there is no freedom

10 May at 21:24

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Dominic Toomey

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10 May at 21:25

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Brad Needs Acoffee

lucky I can speed read. haha

10 May at 21:32

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Arthur Cristian

e-motions have got the best of you right now Mark. Ricardo is a close mate and is not taking sides with anyone, he is just sharing his intentions, his life, his purpose. Ours is different, our lives are structured to rout out INTEL left, right and center. This is part of what we live for, many more to come. If you choose to continue processing curses through the pull of your e-motions then so be it, it's your choice, your life, your creations. We refuse to process lies and liars. Some of us have to do the really dirty work, this happens to be us.

10 May at 21:33

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Brad Needs Acoffee

no need to get a good book now. hah

10 May at 21:33

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Arthur Cristian

Nigel Beckwith

I have some other priorities at the moment. No one seems interested in the details of my concerns, I have got so irritated that people that I know to be bastards, are still so admired in the so called "truth community". Its starts to become a drain in itself trying to oust the non oustable (because of their blind followers). I mean what will it achieve if I look at your stuff and agree? The same as what you looking at my stuff or my views may achieve. In the end I think it important (for me) to be aware of who is playing games and who may be doing their stuff in earnest. Then try to forge ahead with our plan as well as we can. On the other hand I do not have a website so perhaps if I did and did not have the same constraints then perhaps I would. But fighting shills is also what the powers that be want us to do. I suggest doing it sparingly.

Also with some of the stupid things that people like our once mutual "living Christ" friend used to say and how much time he wasted in entirely misunderstanding as well as dismissing another's views based on his limited version of this game. In the end it seems like an oppression of ones own evolving consciousness to have to endure it.

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Arthur Cristian

If we were in the UK we would be helping you more hands on, our recent posts will be helping you heaps if you get your head around the truths/insights we share. Our lives are structured so we can expose shills left right and centre constantly. It must and needs to be done. Many will hate us for this but it needs to be done. Comes with the healing territory - we are separating the wheat from the chaff - we are parting the ways between light/truth and dark/lies

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Nigel Beckwith

We can only help to support each other on our paths and hope that one day our paths collide in a positive way.

10 May at 21:49

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Madhava Ananda Das

Looking like you are the only one we can trust & the whole world is agents working for the dark side- good to know LOL

10 May at 22:57

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Arthur Cristian

We've never made such claims and such thinking has never been part of our intentions. Are you trying to hijack our characters so you can impersonate us and let slip some slander or are you just coming on here to demonstrate the development of your smartarse?

10 May at 23:30

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Madhava Ananda Das

I am just amazed at your accusations of people who are actually doing something well presented and intelligent for the truth movement instead of just throwing dirt...This is how the power that be advance through the internal wars of those professing radical truth

10 May at 23:54

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Jenny Earthling

i always believe someone when they come right out and say something. "Mark Darwin replied: Yes Arthur, I am intel and so is Max"

11 May at 00:31

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Arthur Cristian

Ivana Zara Dostojevski

Arthur/Fiona can't you see how you're contradicting yourself. Look at all this tons and tons of the mind construct messages that you both are constantly delivering through this media. You both are seriously plugged in; BIGTIME!!! The way you chose to deliver your message and raise awareness is so bloody wrong; aggressive and counterproductive.....Who are you guys anyway? Someone who has that much time to spend in front a computer to write so much stuff all the time must be paid by someone?????? According to your profile picture you have 4 kids......I have one child and there is no way I could or want to spend that much time on fb while at the same time trying to look after her.........Also, you are making so much effort to discredit everyone else out there.....
There is no doubt that some serious intel is going around, but you guys are attacking everyone. That is raising some serious questions! You know the quote: "Seek the company of those who search for truth; run from those who have found it."

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Arthur Cristian

So you can't find any lies in what we've written?

It seems all you have currently on offer here is the pull of your e-motions that are the reflections/shadows bouncing to and fro between your ears that show up as winging, winning, moaning, groaning, complaining, etc, about our characters BUT no evidence to prove anything that we are lying.

All you are really doing here is trying to kidnap our characters so that you can impersonate them which provides you the means to sneak in your "righteous views" which is the dumping of all your e-motional baggage into your performance of our characters, and through this act, make it out that this baggage is actually coming from us, is our behaviour, is our intentions, are our thoughts, values, etc...... The fact is, this is NOT true because you made it all up, is FRAUD, is SLANDER, they are ALL lies, you are lying.

So you prefer to shoot the messenger than just focus on the message and find the lies in it and back it with incontrovertible evidence.

You see, we concentrate ONLY on the message which routs out the messenger, BIG DIFFERENCE HERE - TRUTH DOES NOT LIE.

Here is a challenge for you, see if you can rout us out through our messages, through the insights we share.

Ivana, you can come after our characters as much as you want BUT this is just the spin doctoring of your belief system, your e-motional baggage, none of it sticks with us because we know who we really are and what we are really doing. We are not interested in fitting into your per-conditioned, pre=determined box (expectations) of how we should be performing for you in all ways, how we should be showing up for you. How about you step outside of your box to have a good look at how uniqueness and originality operates elsewhere?

The fact is, your belief is NOT proof of fact. If you want FACTS, talk to Stephen, he's been here twice and we've had many chats over the phone/net or go to the Love For Life website and learn the truth about us and our values, attitudes, commitments, dreams, intentions, etc, from there or come and visit us for a day in East Bowral (70/80 minutes by car from Bondi outside peak hour traffic) and find out everything through direct experience.

11 May at 00:35

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Brett Anderson

Madhava, I don't see Arthur asking for your trust or selling you anything. On the other hand you are 'trusting' and putting your faith in those people you are defending, claiming that they are doing wonderful things for the "truth movement". What is the "truth movement" by the way? Can you define it? What is the truth? If indeed the truth you're talking about panders to any part of the current system (slavery) that we now experience then its got nothing to do with truth at all, its just opinions and second/third hand intellectual property that you can 'follow', and if you are following something or somebody then you are so removed from truth and freedom that you may as well be right back in the cage that you already thought you were breaking out of. If one sits back for a moment and examines these so called truth fighters and leaders of which ever 'truth' movement you care to name, its easy to see that they always lead no where except straight back into accepting the system and maybe painting it a pretty colour and calling it freedom. You have to realise that the purveyors of all of this a not dumb, they know our minds better then we do and they have us playing a merry game of deceit and musical chairs of follow the leader to no where. Forget personalities and heroes, they are all engineered and manipulated to divert, deceive and destroy any real rebellion against the system of control. Let go.

11 May at 00:47

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

People are in different layers of awakening, learning and growing, many vails of saytans deception,

11 May at 00:52

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Arthur Cristian

Spot on Brett - as usual, your pencil is always sharp.

11 May at 00:52

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Arthur Cristian

Agreed Ali, so we do what we do through unconditional love (all the virtues of love at play), to shift those veils, to remove them out of the way. We must confront (virtue of love) lies and liars everywhere and bring light into the darkness to remove those veils, the blind spots.

11 May at 00:55

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

But got get and hit to the core, house of Roth and rocker etc!

11 May at 01:35

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Jamie Langstrumpf

Awesome post!!!!**

11 May at 02:08

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Arthur Cristian

Ali, it is the Freemasonic/Satanic world of high-priests/priestesses behind the Church Of England, Roman Catholic Church, The Jesuits and "The Crown" of Britain who are fully responsible. They are the inventors of all occults and esoterics = BLACK-MAGIC which includes all religions, sheeple movements, alphabet languages, mathematics and geometry and everything derived from them which includes the whole of "The System" of every civilisation ever existed.

The Rothschilds & Rockefellers and are just red herrings, decoy-distractions, they are VERY VERY LOW down the ladder of the REAL power structures of the upper-levels behind Freemasonry/Satanism with all its orders, societies, fraternities, lodges, clubs, sects, cults, sororities, etc........

The most dangerous of the lot operate as "normal" people in every day life. Generally speaking, you will never be able to detect them. They blend in too well because they work as school teachers, carpenters, mechanics, office managers, business managers, etc, etc..... This is where they are brilliantly hidden away and these blokes (mostly men - some are women) are NOT involved directly in crimes nor are they paedophiles, etc, nor are they involved in the running of all the networks behind all their lodges, orders, societies, covens, etc, etc...........

They use all their subordinates to do all the dirty work. Their communications to their subordinates are done through telepathy, there is NO paper work or tongue over phone involved, and only small amounts of face to face meetings occur each year and this is sporadic and done cleverly (very-simply) too so as not to raise suspicion even amongst family members who have no idea what is really going on, that is until one of their children, if agreed by the cabal, is brought into their fold, BUT this requires many many many years of testing outside of this cabal, mainly through university and private tutoring, so as not to raise the child's suspicion that their parent is involved.

We can see/sense through the water of our breath where much has now been already revealed to us as to what is really going on. Anyone going after the banksters has bought a dummy and is a farce. Going after the banksters is not going to put an end to this Black Magic Cabal..

11 May at 04:33

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

Exactly

11 May at 04:31

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BSQ5NYgAwPg

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11 May at 04:31

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Arthur Cristian

We are dealing with an Aryan Judeo-Judaic Bloodline that is Ancient Greek in ancestry and is Ancient Egypt too. They are not Jews who were set up to be scapegoats for the entry into the NWO. The Jews are not responsible for the NWO.

11 May at 04:31

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

They guy in the video takes it Evan furth back

11 May at 04:40

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Arthur Cristian

There is a lot of re-presenting intellectual property going on here - we can help these people get even clearer BIG-TIME but we agree with much of the intentions behind what he says. Harm is even the clothes he wears, the building he is in, the metals he wears and uses, basically all the prosthetics. We need to meet these people to help them with what we've learnt.

11 May at 04:43

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Andrea Smith

I can't Understand Why You Have To Bag Others Put Replys Up And Quote Others On Walls. All Your Posts Are Long And Drawn Out babble With A Knife In Someones Back. Stick To Your Own Knowledge Get The Truth Out With Straight Forward Facts On Your Own Wall. I replied Once Only To Be Copied And Made A example Of On Your Wall And My Wall, Not appreciated. Love The Work You Do, But Throwing Stones Will Get You discredited, Attacking Others, Shill Or Not Is Focusing On The Wrong Information, Plenty Of Shills And Trolls, If Your Putting Out The Truth Stick To Your Own Truths And Spread It Far And Wide

11 May at 08:06

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Russell Williams

1000% agree with the above post. Too much bad energy slagging others who, whether they're right or wrong, give people an opportunity to think for themselves. On a side note, the very people being slagged are noted for asking those interested in their material, not to believe "anything" they say, but to further research and find out for themselves. That's the humility I expect of anyone who makes claims of having information to worthy of decent attention. Enough said...

11 May at 12:53

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Arthur Cristian

Russell, Andrea & Madhava. As we always say, "Don't believe what we say - work things out, use your brains/senses and go where the logic of truth/sense takes you but relying on belief as proof of fact doesn't work because belief is just reaction to trauma that is the pull of your e-motional baggage that you dredge up and blame others for."

Those you blame for your e-motional baggage are now the mirrors of your "own" con-struction. All you can now see is your reflection bouncing back at you of your "own" making. The complaints you make are not to be found in those you blame or in their work. They are only found in you.

If you don't like our close to the bone Love For Life work you don't have to read it and if you can genuinely find something that we say that is untruthful, we are always ready to hear it so we can clean up and move on if necessary. BUT this does not include attacks about how we write or about who we are.

Andrea - we do not put posts up to mock people or to encourage people to laugh at the writer of the post concerned. To us, it is all part of the learning process of ALL of us. We need to be able to point out the fiction (blind spots of perceived reality) in each others thoughts and words, all the while recognising that we are in the same boat, that we all have trauma, fiction addictions, etc. What is there to be ashamed about here? If you were free in your thoughts and feelings, you would not be upset by having your thoughts and views shared.

Your upsets come directly from the attachments you have to the reflections/shadows of your ALL-SEEING "I" mirror that is the possession of the demons that covet you in a Satanic grip of your own likeness. This is why you fight and blame others for everything going on. You are not free, and so attached to the mirror that you will attack anything that threatens your mirror.

When you start to look clear headedly using logic and scrutiny, you will want to smash that mirror because it is holding you in the darkness of your "own" making/projections. You think the mirror is who you are but it is not! The best thing we could possibly do for people is help them smash their mirrors by showing them what they are and how they have a hold on them, making people self-centred, victim, poor me, e-motionally-sensitive, etc, so that they can get beck to thinking and sensing through the true light of their consciousness.

None of you have had direct experience (first party to first party) with us, you haven't visited us, spent time (lived) with us, learnt how we think, feel and operate, etc. You know nothing about our family or our day-to-day lives and yet you act as though you do, that you are experts thus making things up about our intentions when in fact our intentions are totally different to what you make out!

And no, before you all rush in, we are not saying that we are perfect and that we do not have blind spots that we are working on.

Again, there are lots of claims being made about us that have not come from us. We never claim to be the only people coming from truth. Routing out the bad guys is a dirty job but we feel that someone has to do it because so many people are being hurt by them AND are being hooded and blinkered so they move from "The System" to the NWO without a clue about what is happening to them.

If we see this happening, what sort of people would we be if we stood by and said nothing?

The same as just about everyone living in "The System" witnessing suffering and destruction all around them and doing nothing about it. Or living next door to a family where the children were being abused and doing nothing about it.

Yes, people will hate us for it but better that we open some eyes and brains and be hated than we sit back being Mr and Mrs Nice while the harm, the spread of blind-spot-information by the INTEL agents, continues unabated. There are stealth and underhand tactics at play here, all going on in plain sight and we bring your attention to it through logic and sense. Dismiss it if you will but you can't say you haven't been warned.

All the stuff that you are posting to us as complaints about us is just your e-motional baggage, your blind spots which stop you thinking clearly about what is being said. They are your belief systems that are your confines. You are not operating out of fact, logic, senses or direct experience in the matters raised in this discussion.

You are operating out of your belief systems, your blind spots, which make you part of the problem (darkness spreading) because it keeps you from looking at truth (light) because you don't want to face it. These blind spots are your demons and you are admitting that they have power over you and you will do anything to protect them.

You don't want to look at what we are saying, which makes you part of the problem as you use your demons to attack us when we have done no harm to you. Where is the physical/sensory direct experience of how we have hurt you, or caused you loss or suffering or injury? Where is the evidence? And we are not talking about flights of fantasy streaming from the e-motional baggage of your blind-spots. If we are wrong, we are happy to admit it but so far no one has come up with any proof of fact. How about stepping out of the dark side and into the light and start using your senses.

The fact is, if we were all taking full responsibility for our lives, the INTEL agents wouldn't get a foot in the door because no one would be looking for someone to provide them with an answer, a remedy, a solution. They would be taking care of things without needing someone else to follow.

The "bad" energy is your "own" re-pressed e-motional baggage - it is all of you reacting and posting these deep-seated e-motional reactions of your trauma........ complaints, moaning, groaning, etc, and focusing/directing this "dark matter" on other peoples characters, the innocent, to use it as an excuse and as a shield to hide behind, while casting your "own" reflections/shadows (demons) (dispersions) upon others in an attempt to disguise the fact that this "demonic crap" actually comes from the three of you, in the misguided belief that others will not notice your "own" ugliness" appearing in your posts, like the ones you have dredged up here in this thread.

Refer to our last reply to Ivana for more on this as it applies to three of you, copied here.....

So you can't find any lies in what we've written?

It seems all you have currently on offer here is the pull of your e-motions that are the reflections/shadows bouncing to and fro between your ears that show up as winging, winning, moaning, groaning, complaining, etc, about our characters BUT no evidence to prove anything that we are lying.

All you are really doing here is trying to kidnap our characters so that you can impersonate them which provides you the means to sneak in your "righteous views" which is the dumping of all your e-motional baggage into your performance of our characters, and through this act, make it out that this baggage is actually coming from us, is our behaviour, is our intentions, are our thoughts, values, etc...... The fact is, this is NOT true because you made it all up, is FRAUD, is SLANDER, they are ALL lies, you are lying.

So you prefer to shoot the messenger than just focus on the message and find the lies in it and back it with incontrovertible evidence.

You see, we concentrate ONLY on the message which routs out the messenger, BIG DIFFERENCE HERE - TRUTH DOES NOT LIE.

Here is a challenge for you, see if you can rout us out through our messages, through the insights we share.

Ivana, you can come after our characters as much as you want BUT this is just the spin doctoring of your belief system, your e-motional baggage, none of it sticks with us because we know who we really are and what we are really doing. We are not interested in fitting into your per-conditioned, pre=determined box (expectations) of how we should be performing for you in all ways, how we should be showing up for you. How about you step outside of your box to have a good look at how uniqueness and originality operates elsewhere?

The fact is, your belief is NOT proof of fact. If you want FACTS, talk to Stephen, he's been here twice and we've had many chats over the phone/net or go to the Love For Life website and learn the truth about us and our values, attitudes, commitments, dreams, intentions, etc, from there or come and visit us for a day in East Bowral (70/80 minutes by car from Bondi outside peak hour traffic) and find out everything through direct experience

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For your interest, we have now helped over 30 families who have been TERRIBLY damaged by the work of Mark Darwin & his Truthology. When you come from the direct life experience that we do on the front-line you can see/sense through the absolute blind-bullshit the three of you are dredging up here. You are ignorant and have no real idea about what is really going on.

There are many people scared of Mark Darwin, particularly family members - there are many who wish to remain silent because of fears of reprisals orchestrated by Mark. Mark has been known to be a stand-over type of guy.

Here is an example: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7579

As for Max Igan, here is an example of his brainwashing tactics

A Spell Master At Work
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life
21st April 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8401

And of his Intel tactics at work......

Max Igan & The Fraud Of The OPPT
(One Peoples Public Trust)

Facebook Discussion With Arthur & Fiona Cristian
17th to 19th February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8357

OPPT Is A Scam
Why "Self" Is Not MAN

By Arthur & Fiona Cristian
21st February 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8363

The Continuation Of The Max Igan Saga
21st August 2013
Facebook Discussion With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8478

And to repeat what we asked of Mark and Max to answer..........

Mark, please show us in all your work and in all Max's work, where you are providing freedom and not choice and that you are not providing the "names" of freedom and manipulating and using and abusing many, many people in the "name" of freedom, when it is only choice masquerading as freedom. How many curses are you manipulating into processing in the "name" of money as they react to trauma? You probably need to do some background work into what we are saying to comprehend fully what we are saying but, if you are really interested in truth and freedom for all, we assume that you will leave no stone unturned, in case you are on the wrong path. If you can't prove it and you won't change your ways, then who are you answerable to, who are you working for? Who is your master?

There are many INTEL agents out there spreading lies and causing people to get hurt in the process and there are also many, many people extremely angry about many, many things and some of them are vigilantes who have no problem carrying guns and using them. They have been reading our work, and the work of others who are putting out information that is waking people up to the truth of how people are being manipulated across the board. Many of them have been watching the scene for years and we have been asked to join them, which we will not do because we are not into violence. They have been harmed in various ways and those who are out there in front, leading the way in the psyop freedom/truth movement, as well as though associated with them, will be sitting ducks when the pressure cooker blows. For example, someone like Ivana could be a target if she is associated with you and associated with the INTEL networks that have caused so much harm to so many. Even Stephanie is a sitting duck, and all the others who support you. This is true healing that we are offering you here. Pull out, save your lives and stop the harm, stop the lying, stop the blatant manipulation. .
Our commitment is to wake people up to the real tactics and more and more people are waking up to how they have been used and abused. We don't think you guys realise the enormity of the backlash swelling against all INTEL.

This is Fiona and Arthur both writing in all these posts.

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And to copy what Brett Anderson posted.......

Brett Anderson to Madhava, I don't see Arthur asking for your trust or selling you anything. On the other hand you are 'trusting' and putting your faith in those people you are defending, claiming that they are doing wonderful things for the "truth movement". What is the "truth movement" by the way? Can you define it? What is the truth? If indeed the truth you're talking about panders to any part of the current system (slavery) that we now experience then its got nothing to do with truth at all, its just opinions and second/third hand intellectual property that you can 'follow', and if you are following something or somebody then you are so removed from truth and freedom that you may as well be right back in the cage that you already thought you were breaking out of. If one sits back for a moment and examines these so called truth fighters and leaders of which ever 'truth' movement you care to name, its easy to see that they always lead no where except straight back into accepting the system and maybe painting it a pretty colour and calling it freedom. You have to realise that the purveyors of all of this a not dumb, they know our minds better then we do and they have us playing a merry game of deceit and musical chairs of follow the leader to no where. Forget personalities and heroes, they are all engineered and manipulated to divert, deceive and destroy any real rebellion against the system of control. Let go

11 May at 16:11

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Dominic Toomey

sea the paturn

11 May at 17:48

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Ricardo Almeida

i am far from free.im heavily compromised.full of fear and trauma.but with small steps and the correct positive information i want to begin to move away from that state, and alot of help has come from Arthur & Family. I still don't believe everything anyone says , even Arthur. But what i do , do is take the information on-board. sit down sense if its correct or not then go away and research myself to see if it is as its being presented to me. Arthurs work or anybody elses work for that matter shouldn't be taken as gospel..

But if our minds aren't open to the possibility that what we think/believe is possibly not correct then thats a big problem.Most of the stuff that's out there is just exposing information that was allways there but never really spoken about...People who come to Arthur or anyone to ask what you think about this or that , then when they get the answer don't like it and get a bee under the bonnet , need to go back a few steps and really read whats being put infront of them.

While no one has all the answers and everything might come from different angles , we need to ourselves be open to everything coming our way and then being on the same wave length to discern intel,bullshit,garden paths,etcc. I've allways said to myself , if i don't make sense of it and it doesn't make sense to me AND i can't explain it simply to anyone then i don't understand it at all.

Not dismiss it right away.just means im not ready for that next piece of the puzzle yet. i am very thankful i met Arthur , fiona and Family. While i don't understand everything they put to me , i sure did see that what i thought was truth is just very very clever dis-information that's after i sat , listened , thought , and thought , and let go of my ego thinking that i knew everything just because i had been into this stuff for a few years.

What i thought i knew what just more crap to keep me busy in the system. All i want is to live in is peace , freedom , harmony , love & abundance and i have yet to see that in the system(not the illusion of it). The system provides me with hell , hurt , trauma , pain , suffering etcc.

I've come to the conclusion that all we really need if we could all just let go of it all stop thinking with the broken mind we have but instead do what feels right, come together to help each other not because we wanted something in return but because we love to help and it felt right the system would be no more...after all we are the system.

11 May at 18:06

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Dominic Toomey

make your way to the exit on the wright

11 May at 18:12

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Russell Williams

Thank you Arthur for the expended effort to respond to the three of us in question. As expected, because of our collective demonic crap that you're suggesting, we were always going to be wrong. I cant figure out if you're a genius or a comic, perhaps both. Mate, you may as well befriend me/us, as we, including those who oppose your views and opinions, are not as switched on to the "ABSOLUTE" like Arthur Cristian. Well done. Good luck. You da man!!!!

11 May at 19:36

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Arthur Cristian

The reflections in the mirror of you are the storytelling of all the books, pictures, words, letters you have been exposed to in your role as "NAME" in "The System".

They form the story of Russell the "NAME" but that is not who you really are, the living MAN Russell.

You didn't create any of them and you didn't create the trauma that rules you, the distorted life-force-energy of non-sensory images bouncing to and fro between the ears of all these unnatural stories that you are unwilling to let go of.

Collectively they form the e-go, the demon, that is "NAME", Russell, the reflection of Russell the MAN in the mirror, and all this collective storytelling, the belief systems, becomes the act of the demon, the impostor, performing as Russell the MAN. But Russell the MAN is not with us, only the "NAME" Russell is.

When the "NAME" Russell comes onto this wall and posts what he does, it is not Russell the MAN, just the demons that are the spells of all the storytelling spinning around in his head that form his belief systems and have the "NAME" Russell fight and argue for them to protect and validate them to give them power with the MAN Russell's life-force-energy.

This is all the demon has to offer; there is nothing else there. This performance is a façade, is a farce. They are are just the shadows and reflections of the MAN Russell the demon has claimed as its "own"...... mine, mine, mine, "i", "i", "i", etc, etc, etc.......

How can we say this?

Only the MAN Russell can come forward to act the storytelling of the "NAME" Russell but none of the characters in the stories of these belief systems, the "spells", can come forward as sensory-living-first parties.

This shows you the depth of demonic possession in the "NAME" of the MAN Russell.

And the other thing to notice is that the virtues of love of the MAN Russell are not present amongst the living having been pushed aside because the demon of the "NAME" Russell is in performance and the demon has nothing to do with the virtues of love, of light, of the MAN Russell. If it was, the MAN Russell would come forward as a simple MAN of truth, peace, love, sincerity, purity of intention, etc, etc, without weakness and without fear of confronting lies and liars. You see/sense, the MAN Russell is not of the darkness, only the "NAME" Russell is.

The way to break the "spells" is by learning not to set the "spells" into motion, by recognising that the pull of e-motion, the reaction to trauma, is the "spell", the "rite", the "demon" on offer needing your life-force-energy to give it power. Ignore these temptations, do something else creative where you can set your life-force-energy into motion to benefit the dream of life, nature, earth, MAN, without doing harm to MAN, earth, nature, like gardening, playing with children, going for a walk in nature or have a swim, etc, etc, anything that co-creates happy, bright, thoughts, etc.

Eventually the habit is far more powerful and as you have learnt to completely ignore the demon it eventually fades away to be no more.

What you have learnt to do is stop being self-centred. The reflections of e-motions, the reactions to trauma, bouncing to and fro between your ears is not you, it is the demon acting as the impostor of you as "NAME" and everything associated with "NAME" is of the demonic world that is "The System" of HELL too. Once you have overcome this challenge, you have welcomed paradise back into your life where it has always been. We've just been asleep while the demons, the reflection/s in the mirror of you, run amok.

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

It's a hall of mirrors!!

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Arthur Cristian

Yep, every non-sense image is a mirror/reflection/shadow.

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Mark DuBois

Gozaimasu HisRoyalslyness Stone Love for Life!

12 May at 07:32

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Mark DuBois

This website has the most profound wisdom on our beloved mother earth, too!

http://loveforlife.com.au

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Arthur Cristian

Every lie is a curse and every liar is processing curses and the processing of the curse comes upon the children, family, loved ones, grandparents, associates and other beneficiaries.of the liars too, this includes the pull of e-motional attachments to/with liars by whomever. There is now a separation of the ways going on between light and dark, truth and lies, no harm and doing harm, consciousness and unconsciousness, sense and non-sense and between eternal life and eternal death. We all have free will - its now up to each of us to choose which path to take.

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We just watched this video about how to create a mind-control cult. Excellent and spot on. However the makers of this video are already part of a cult, are already practising the oc-cults before, during and after making this video. All the education, instruction and explanation they/we have received since sperm & egg is already the effects of the oc-cults upon us and we continue setting into motion the deep-seated psyop programming of the oc-cults upon us and upon everyone and everything all around us = "The System" of an occultic program.

It just shows us why we have to set into motion the Kindom remedy that stops us educating, instructing and explaining everything to our children. The only way to break this ocCULT stranglehold over us is to set each other free from each other but to do that we have to recognise and let go of our ocCULT trauma, the pull of e-motions of someone else's ocCULT-i-c image power in our heads that we have been dancing to, as well as working hard to clean up the damage we have all been party to.

"The System" is a cult, a program that tell us how we should live, how we should think, etc. It is an occult in itself.

An oc-cult.

While we have to use the occults, the tools of "The System" CULT, to get out of this, so long as we are clear in our intention to expand the light of the Kindom remedy (NO SYSTEM OF A CULT) at the end of the tunnel, the mass exodus from "The System" CULT, we will get there so that our children and our children's children are free from this CULT and we have stopped the power of the occults over all of us.

This requires a strong group of people committed no matter what and without doubt about each other and what they are doing, as well as being strong enough to withstand being called a cult, which we undoubtedly will be.

We are called a cult now when we are just a family + 1!

Those who attack people breaking away do so because they do not want to let go of "The System" CULT and do not have a remedy to "The System" CULT . They do not want us to leave the CULT of "The System", THEIR CULT.

This is why 2006-2007 we created The Steps of Kindom, a breaking away from "The System" CULT forevermore, a present-sense (being conscious) living remedy that focuses on do no harm and life is a gift.

This shuts people up because how can they attack do no harm and life is a gift!

How can that be a cult?!

To put the nail in the coffin of the dead and send them back to their dead ocCULTic world with their tail between their legs, we ask them for their remedy that provides freedom, truth, peace, joy, abundance, do no harm, no loss of uniqueness/originality and no slaves and rulers for everyone and everything = NO SYSTEM OF A CULT. By confronting them, we are showing them that they have nothing except "THE SYSTEM CULT to offer us.

This makes our intentions very clear and is not something people can really argue with if they are honest. If they are not, they will continue to fight for their oc-CULTic belief systems and continue to attack anything/anyone who threatens them.

AND, confronting them with these do no harm life is a gift remedy questions exposes them right out in the open for all to see. They have NOWHERE to hide............. enter Kate Of Gaia, Max Igan, Mark Darwin, David Icke, Michael Tsarion, George Green, Benjamin Fulford, Alex Jones, Santos Bonacci, Marl Passio, Zeitgeist, Thrive, Ubuntu, OPPT, Michael Tellinger, "Oneness Consciousness/One Earth" this or that, Deepak Chopra, David Wilcock, David Woolfe, Project Camelot/Project Avalon Bill & Kerrie, Mike Adams, Quantum Physics, System Science, Oprah Winfrey, Barack Obama, Queen Elizabeth, Prince William, EU, UN, NATO, WTO, WHO, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, ..... :) <3

Mind Control Cults
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnNSe5XYp6E

The Steps Of Kindom
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life 2006/2007
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

Routing Out Psyop Programs
Routs Out Intel Operatives
Kate of Gaia, Max Igan & Mark Darwin

Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 31st May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8524

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Nicole LeCompte

The best thing I have ever done in my life at 45 yrs old is pick up the Holy Bible & actually read it instead of bashing it, like the marxist Darwinian I was growing up to be. I am now wide awake. EVERYTHING WE NEED TO KNOW IS WRITTEN IN THAT LITTLE BOOK. EVERYTHING!! it has exposed EVERYTHING demonic around us including the so called aliens...and UFO's. I have seen them with my own eyes and was almost deluded like so many other people. But I am a believer in Yeshua and YahWeh and learning how to develop a relationship with THEM. We were warned it is a mighty narrow path and we not make many friends.

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Arthur Cristian

Seeing them with your/our own eyes does not mean that they are not MAN-MADE.

Bring forward the first parties to back your claims - "Hello Yeshu", "Hello YahWeh", "Hello Aliens", "Hello UFO'S", please come forward so that we first parties can have a direct experience with all of you - we want to sit down and have a very long chat with you "guys" about many many things.

We are not interested in talking with other men and women who act as 3rd party impostors of you "guys" because if you do not come forward to back their claims they will be seen to be lying and committing fraud, if they keep saying you guys exist and are true/real.

To us, belief (re-presenting "intellectual property"/storytelling in 3rd party) is not proof of fact.

Please show us what you each do for nature/earth/life/reality that aids nature (includes all celestial bodies) in rolling along here and now?????

What of nature needs you guys to exist so they may exist????

Where are your children playing??????

Where are your ancestors buried?????

What is your address so we can visit you, have a bite to eat and a drink while sitting around a tree having many a laugh with you?????

Having 3rd party storytellers (believers) coming forward acting on behalf of you "higher almighty powerful beings" is NOT proof of claim/fact that you guys exist.

We are aware of MANS ability to manufacture UFO'S, the Germans had them flying around during the second world war. We know a lot about genetics and how MAN can create a vast array of genetically engineered abominations including splicing genes, cells, and altering them. Please show us that your UFO'S, "technology" and your "physical-conscious bodies are NOT MAN-made.

One of the tests we will ask you to do to prove your "higher almighty powers" is to move a complete mountain range from over there to over here without doing harm to anything/anyone.

If you don't come forward as a 1st party to engage all our senses (touch, taste, feel, smell, see, hear) as a direct experience, all we've still got here and now in present-sense are deeply brainwashed and traumatised 3rd party men, women & children acting as impostors of a God (believers).

To us this is the Freemasonic/Satanic trademark/blueprint of a Psyop Program where black-magic warlocks & witches are casting "name"/"word"-"spells" over their duped victims. They have been seduced/conned/tricked/deceived into using their deeply e-motion-all-i-sed (trauma based) imagination to fall under the crafted image power of Satanists, who use remote control, remote projection and remote viewing to e-motion-all-y compel (react to trauma - pull of -e-motion) their "hosts" to perform as 3rd party storytellers of a "God", Alien", UFO, Holy Book, Prophecy, in "NAME" ONLY!

Currently without a first part living God (higher power being) coming forward to back their claims/beLIEfS, the Bible remains as a 3rd party fiction. For many, many "years" now, we are still waiting for their "God" to come forward as a first party to back their claims.

As we say, "the thought of God is not God". To us, all bible believers are breaking their first commandment, "though shall have no other Gods before me". They break it because the thought of a God is just a MAN-made idea/picture of a God.

We still recognise that all experiences are MAN-made. We continue asking doubting Thomases to bring forward an experience without MAN being a party to that experience. Could you "higher beings" please break this presumption?

We also are aware of how Satanists/Freemasons use "time-codes" to con MAN into creating "self-fulfilling prophecies" (all prophecies are MAN-made, includes concrete and wooden statues of a Virgin Mary or a Jesus on a Cross weeping and bleeding, etc) and we've explained all this in great detail too. No one yet has been able to disprove the logical evidence about this either. Can you please prove otherwise?

His-Story/Her-Story

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
2005-2006

Much of his-story/her-story, ancient or not, has been twisted and unless you can rout out all the lies/liars you will be thinking everything you are reading is true and therefore be brainwashed - nothing to learn from brainwashing.

Were you there?

Do you know any 1st party you can bring forward who was there? And we're not talking about a brainwashed drone coming forward acting under costume and title, or not, as a 3rd party re-presentative of whatever his-story/her-story they claim to be true.

Up to roughly 1780AD, 99.99% of the total population of MAN all across Earth could not read and write any alphabet language and never did. Even up to 1930AD still more than 90% of the population of MAN all across earth were illiterate to alphabet languages. Today's supposed 6.7 to 7 billion population of MAN, all their ancestors going back through all recorded his-story/her-story had NOTHING to do with recording it because they could not read and write an alphabet language - they ONLY had their tribal/village tongue/talk/songs/arts/etc.....

The ONLY ones who could read and write to record his-story/her-story were the owners of the castles, the land-lords, land-barons, the royal families, aristocrats, the high-priest-hoods and all their scribes and lackeys and they roughly re-presented 20 per one million of the population of MAN going back through ALL recorded his-story/her-story.

The victors wrote ALL the his-story/her-story and it's biased to suit their short and long-term objectives/agendas. It was ONLY these privileged "chosen-ones" who recorded ALL his-story/her-story so no matter what version of alphabet-language history you dive into it was recorded by them. This is FACT. It took the better part of 20 years to master the "craft" and "practice" of an alphabet language and this included mastering mathematics and geometry/sacred geometry - all read and write alphabet languages are crafted out of mathematics and geometry/sacred geometry and all are abominations, all are make-believe, none are real/true - they are not our true tongue.

We are all the descendants of tribes of MAN all across Earth who were invaded, raped, pillaged, plundered, humiliated, ridiculed, abused, decimated, destroyed, and vast genocide was issued all-around. What remained, mainly deeply traumatised children were brainwashed into their conquerors version of their ancestors his-story/her-story so that through the generations they would completely lose connection with their ancestral tongues and word-of-mouth truths.

These invaders first came as missionaries, scientists, botanists, surveyors, geologists, historians, etc, etc, and they came and went for up to 200 years recording/documenting the tongues, customs, ways-of-life, the natural environment, etc, etc, and when they finished recording all their his-story/her-story they then sent in their warships and armies to decimate the tribes. This happened all-across-Earth, all over Europe, Americas, Asia-Pacific regions, etc, etc... All the Royal families of Europa are all the "SAME" bloodlines and all are under the power and control of the Freemasonic/Satanic world led by high-priests/priestesses who created ALL religions, philosophies, civilisations, cults, sects, races, occults, esoterics, "system science", etc, known throughout all recorded his-story/her-story.

The British Empire, not the slaves/drones/commoners/serfs, etc, under Britain, is the head, "The Crown" of "The System" of the Western World who conquered almost all of Earth, if not ALL, and are still in power today. They control America (war over America's Independence was orchestrated by Freemasons on all sides - all working together behind the scenes) , Russia (Bolshevik revolution), China (took them 300 years through the East India company and the opium wars to conquer China - and are still in power all over Asia), Canada, NZ, Australia, Japan (thanks to 2nd world war), Brazil, Argentina, Africa, India, etc, etc....... all of it.

When they conquered lands such as Australia the high-priests.priestesses carved up all the lands into parish lands and put a church in every parish and a priest in every church to deal with the sinners (processors of curses). It does not matter if the church is Protestant, Catholic, etc, they are ALL 100% controlled by the Freemasonic/Satanic world and you want to trust their history, particularly after all the effort they went into brainwashing men, women and children everywhere leading to all the invasions and wars that murdered over 100 billion men, women, children - this includes all the poisons, toxins, chemicals, eugenics, plagues, pestilence, vaccinations, weapons of mass destruction, agriculture, eating animals, dairy products, processed wheat, etc, (highly dangerous to our bodies), etc, etc, etc, they brought with them throughout all their sojourns across Earth under the guise of Ancient Egypt, Greece, Rome, Babylon, Persia, Assyria, China, Aztec, Maya, Inca, Sanskrit, etc, etc.

All these civilisations had read and write alphabet languages, mathematics and geometry/sacred-geometry and they all had royal families divinely appointed by God, high-priest-hoods divinely appointed by God and the rule of law of God divinely appointed by God. WHAT A COINCIDENCE. Nothing natural about any of this - all require extensive brainwashing-education to understand the make-believe con-structs they all are. You can change the name royal families, high-priest-hoods, God, etc to EU, NATO, WTO, WHO, UN, NWO, America, President, Prime Minister, Director, CEO, Senator, Treasurer, Professor, Academic, Bankster, Emperor, Dictator, Caesar, etc, etc, etc,......... its all the same non-sense rubbish used under different guises throughout all their systems of civilisations. "All are of "The System", their systems designed to maintain power and control over their captive slaves, generation after generation after generation"..... this says it all. If you want to learn more about this please read and watch our articles, videos, etc, ............

In their recorded "ages" of their his-story/her-story, the late 1100's/early 1200's, they started creating English primarily out of hieroglyphics/pictorial-mathematics, Hebrew, Greek, Latin, and they called English THE NEW WORLD LANGUAGE. The letter j/J did not exist until roughly 1520AD. It appears j/J was first used by Freemason/Satanist Francis Bacon alias William Shakespeare with the word Jew. Words like Jesus came out of Lesus which came out of Iesus/iesus which came out of Isis = Land Lord/Land-Baron/Pharaoh/etc ruling over serfs/commoners/slaves/etc. NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

English was crafted by French Judeo-Judaic Architects/draftsmen of law, what you refer to as Gods - judges, barristers, lawyers, etc... They (all the chosen ones of their cabal) are the Gods of English. Welcome to Alice in Wonderland Through The Looking Glass - Welcome To Dorothy Down The Yellow Brick Road In The Land Of Oz.

ALL BOOKS ARE ABOMINATIONS - ALL ALPHA LANGUAGES ARE ABOMINATIONS - ALL NUMERICS ARE ABOMINATIONS - they were all crafted for PSYOPS PROGRAMMING - There was no other purpose for them. While anyone believes in this non-sense they have become the abomination too.

Find a book, scroll, papyri, tablet, alpha language, mathematics, geometry/sacred geometry, recorded history, not part of "The System" of those/any recorded "ages". Can you do that? If you can't then this clearly reveals to you DARKNESS VISIBLE, demonstrating just how big this grand deception is and has been.

Every letter (image) of all alpha languages are incantations designed to craft "spells" set into motion by fallen/conned-MAN.

They called the crafting of "English" back in the 1200's. the "NEW WORLD LANGUAGE". The letter "j" did not exist until the 1500's either.

Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

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Jaba WS

Arthur Cristian you don't get it! WE NEED TO BELIEVE in this things to SEE them LOL

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Arthur Cristian

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

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Arthur Cristian

I BELIEVE JABA - I BELIEVE........................

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Jaba WS

So you you finally SEE it??? I just closed my eyes and i saw the green man walking bye LOL

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Arthur Cristian

ALL SEEING I (EYE) - What more do you want Jaba? You want my soul too???

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Jaba WS

HAHA

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Kenneth Jeffrey Slem

Timeline Photos - A Dire Warning From Retired US Army Captain Terry M. Hestilow.
by: WorldTruth.TV

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Arthur Cristian

Nicole LeCompte, we are not laughing at you, the living MAN, we are just being very honest and sincere and frank with you about beLIEf and the terrible damage it does to MAN.

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Jaba WS

No we just dream of laughing ALL TOGETHER!

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Arthur Cristian

Exactly........

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Arthur Cristian

Nicole, where can millions of innocent children not exposed to "The System" or exposed to anyone who was exposed to "The System" go anywhere in nature to learn about God, Alien, UFO, Bible, a, b, c, 1, 2, 3, compass, square, etc, etc, without anyone already brainwashed by "The System" having to explain it to (educate/instruct) them?????? Can you please answer this question.

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The Cristian Family November 2006

Facebook Comments Referring
To Part Two Of This Thread
Exposing Max Igan's Psyop Program

A Disassociation From The Work of Kate of Gaia


In Reference To "Babylon Is Fallen" video - http://youtu.be/RnKjAiiKtdc
Link: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203726940962098

Kate of Gaia has been using a vast part of the insights we've been sharing for many years now. This is not a problem but for the fact that we now feel that the work we share is being associated with things that Kate promotes that are contrary to what we write and that do nothing to provide remedy to our current state. When we take stuff from other people's work, we always acknowledge where it comes from, so there is no misunderstanding and people are clear about what is what.

Kate does not acknowledge where a good percentage of his work is coming from, the problem with this being that, while people are learning about the "name" and the ramifications of using the "name", they are NOT learning about the remedy to using the "name". Just stopping using the "name" will not get you out of "The System" and in fact will cause many many problems that impact family, friends, loved ones, community and those stupid enough to give up "name" without a working remedy in place to get out of "The System".

A practical remedy that can be applied in every day life is vital and this is what Kate is leaving out of the picture. You cannot just drop the name if you do not have a committed group around you supporting you, a committed group co-creating Kindom step by step so that each man or woman of that committed group can step out, one by one, as the situation allows. Refer to "The Steps of Kindom" and the other articles and videos in the sequential order posted below for the big picture.

Yes, we need to boycott "The System" but not without a plan and not without something in place so that the transition is peaceful and the chaos and inconvenience and hardship minimised. We are happy to have the insights we share spread around - we do not "own" the work we do - BUT we have to point out where the work is being used in a way that will NOT bring peace, freedom, etc for ALL.

If people start dropping the "Name" without a remedy in place, and they and those around them suffer greatly because of it, the backlash will come back on us and we will be blamed, even though this is not what we promote. Community Immunity is the key and you cannot just drop the "name" without a community backing you, unless you want to go bush, which in itself is not a long term remedy because, once the NWO fully kicks in, they will use their highly advanced tracking technology to find all those who have slipped away and kill them.

A strong community is the ONLY option for stepping out of "The System" because a strong community can stand up to the FORCE of "The System" and set an example of how to live without "The System" so that others can see the possibilities and start living this way, and so that those caught up in high positions in "The System" who fear for their lives have a sanctuary to come to. This is not the first time Kate has used the Love For Life work without any acknowledgement to us and this is not the first time we have pointed this out.

The mantras Kate is promoting are so close to the work we do that many who have read our work will associate us with the rest of the work Kate promotes. A problem? Only that when Kate's work backfires for those who do what he suggests and Kate is discredited, anyone associated with the same mantras, also gets discredited and written off, which is what happens with many people waking up. They rely on what they are told rather than taking responsibility for digging out the truth. This discrediting by association is whiteanting, whitewashing tactics.

The association of our work, coupled with the image Kate presents, could lead to a common INTEL situation where people try to give up the "name" BUT, without the remedy in place, suffer disastrous consequences and then turn around and say, "Hey, that didn't work. This is all rubbish. Kate's a fruitcake, a space cadet". By association, we are too.

Remember, part of the religion of chaos that is Satanism, is that they sacrifice their own for the greater cause, for the brotherhoods. They work together to protect their world, their system. They use the law, politics, the media, etc. It is controlled opposition to destruction.

Kate will be brought down and the flak comes back on us because our work has not been applied fully. We cannot control the mainstream media and get almost no air time on "alternative" channels so we will get very limited opportunities to clear up the misconceptions of our work.

As we always say, it is the people around you and forming strong groups of committed people that is the most important step, rather than still thinking self-centredly as in dropping My "name", MY contracts, MY system obligation, MY system benefits....... This brings the Love For Life work down to the same level as all the legal, freedom truth stuff out there; it is all about ME.

We pound remedy ALL the time because without a practical, step by step remedy in place, we have nothing and what Kate is doing is no different to all the David Ickes and Max Igans who complain about "The System" but have NO remedy to offer.

If Kate promoted us through her work, people would see the remedy but when Kate refuses to acknowledge where her work is coming from, people are kept apart from remedy. By not acknowledging our work, Kate is hijacking our mantras and, by doing so, hijacking our characters by association and impersonating our intentions by leaving out everything to do with remedy. This is what INTEL does to control outcomes. They take the matter out of our hands.

Kate says, "Stay the course. The path home is one of truth only and nothing else. Your willingness to stand in truth alone is yours alone and to the degree that you stand will be the same degree that you will become untouchable spiritually and, as a result, physically. As above, so below, after all."

Yes, we need to let go of the "name" but just doing so without being prepared and fully conscious of all the brainwashing tactics used to keep us attached to the "name" and "The System" will get us nowhere. More important than just letting go of the "name" is comprehending how we are trapped into fighting with each other and being divided from each other. You can decide to drop the "name" but all the brainwashing you have been subjected to will keep you firmly attached to "The System", any system, because you will not have learnt what it is to be fully responsible for your life and the lives of those around you. If everyone just dropped the "name", there would be chaos AND an Earth full of men and women still divided and easily conquerable for the "strong" to take command over. Enter the NWO.

If Kate is innocent of hijacking our work, and is a man of love and peace, he needs to honour where a lot of his work comes from and make clear the distinction between our work and the stuff he promotes that we are not into; soulless entities, reptilian brains, universal law, as above, so below, planet, etc.

Kate seems to be suggesting that these "soulless" entities are not man-made, not of MAN but of something "out there" not of Earth, who have invaded and taken MAN prisoner. To us, this is part of the psyop programs of INTEL operations, part of the grooming of the duped for the chaos and conflict that lead to the NWO.

We say that everything going wrong, including the demons possessing us, is man made and that we are fully responsible for everything that has happened to us, as well as for getting out of the mess that we have created. The INTEL networks need a global problem, a "them out there and us down here" situation so that they can bring in their global remedy. They need a one world problem whether a one world environmental disaster, a one world economic disaster or a one world alien invasion.

The people in positions of power in "The System" are men and women just like the rest of us, men and women who have been groomed for their roles since they were babies, but Kate says that they are soulless entities, suggesting something from "out there". Who is it? Is it aliens? Something hostile? Aliens are becoming the new terrorist. This is part of the psyop programming. We have challenged Kate many times to prove what he is saying about this stuff but he avoids it and carries on. Kate is very clever, too clever not to examine what he is promoting if others are pointing out that it may be untrue.

When we become victims to soulless entities, or to something "other" or "out there", we are no longer taking responsibility which leads to remedy. There is nothing in Kate's work to empower us to co-create remedy, step by step. "Stand in your truth and you will become invincible", to paraphrase Kate, is not a remedy. Kate talks in the "name" of freedom. He is not being freedom.

Kate, if you are innocent of this and are not trying to hijack our work and make it seem to be not what it is, please clear things up so people know where they stand. You are welcome to use the insights we share but please acknowledge what you use from our work and make clear the distinction between the work we share and what you promote that is different from us. AND, why don't you point out that Love For Life has a practical remedy to offer too, if people would like to read it. Let's have some goodwill and clarity here so that no one is left in the fog.

Fiona & Arthur Cristian
Love For Life
17th May 2014

Copied from the comments section of this thread......

We ask you to NOT believe anything we say/share and instead use scrutiny like an intense blow torch and go where the logic of truth/sense takes you. This is very, very important. Put everything you believe up to the test of scrutiny to see how it stacks up. If you are true to your heart/senses and go where the logic of truth/sense takes you will find that NO belief, etc, will stand up to the test of scrutiny. They just do not stack up because they are lies/fraud.

In the same way, if someone points out something that they think is wrong with our work, we will think about what they say and take it into consideration. This is not true for many people out there with audiences - we point out things to them where we do not see/sense truth, and they ignore it. How sincere are they in seeking truth then? If we are not prepared to bare who we are and everything we think and feel and subject those thoughts and feelings to scrutiny, we will never separate the truth from the lies.

The way Kate is promoting the "name" stuff could cause great harm to a lot of people. There is no REMEDY there. This is no different from David Icke and all the other "we will lead every revolution against us" shepherd who tell you everything that is wrong with the system (except the brainwashing tactics used - we tell you those) but do not offer a practical, day by day, step by step remedy.

We have been on the front line of this since we started Love For Life March 2005 and website December 2006. Our research into the big-picture goes back to 1971/1972 onwards.

We have dealt with many, many, many people, many families with young children, who are on the verge of losing everything or have already lost everything because they followed the add-vice of freedom truther sovereigns who told them all sorts of tactics that they said would work, only to find that, whoops, the FORCE of "The System" takes no notice of paperwork, of liens, of UCC filings, of "read off a script" dialogue.

And when everything is collapsing around them, are the freedom truther sovereigns there holding their hands and picking up the pieces? NOOOOOO. They are nowhere to be seen and they are certainly NOT taking FULL-responsibility for the fact that all the promises they made about their amazing methods have come to nothing. And this is not just one or two phone calls we have had, We are talking about HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of people with their lives in tatters.

If you can comprehend this, perhaps you can comprehend why we are so quick off the mark to point out where the work we share is being used in a way that could potentially cause a lot of harm, as well as where we see the work of others having the potential to do harm. We do not want our work, or us, to be associated with that harm because it discredits all the hard work we have put in over the years AND takes people away from looking at the remedy, the practical, day by day, step by step remedy we offer.

Kate is right when he says that we have to let go of the "name" but we cannot just do so without some preparation and, most importantly, without fully comprehending how the "name" works and how the brainwashing of "The System" keeps us addicted to using the "name" and attached to the "name".

Kate tells us to just give up the "name" and stand strong and we will become invincible. HHHMMMMM. Does he warn people that giving up the "name" also means giving up ALL the benefits and services of "The System" because it is our claiming of the "name" that gives us access to those benefits and services. Yep, from now on, no leases, no mortgages, no driver's licences, no healthcare, no banking, no insurance, no government pensions/handouts, no credit rating, no passport, no car registration, and, when they bring in a cashless society, no access to their shops = no food, water, shelter, etc, unless you have created a food forest or are happy to live off what you can forage. Does Kate make this clear to everyone? NO

We have people come to see us and they want to do what Arthur has done and give up all contracts with the "name" but we point out that the only reason he has been able to do so at this point is because he has people around him who are committed to supporting him. This is not something lightly done without a strong community around you.

When we have Kindoms off the ground, we will have places for people to come seeking refuge from "The System" where there will be food, shelter, water, nurturing and all for free. Then people can walk away from the "name" without having to go bush or sponge off those who maybe cannot afford it, do not comprehend it and do not have the support of others around them.

To those of you who have written to us accusing us of needing to put the ego to rest, or of not being "free" with our work, or of bickering, being divisive, of not being compassionate or humble, of not being sensitive about people awakening in different ways at different paces, and of whatever other sins we have committed by speaking honestly about the situation, did you actually consider any of the above points before rushing in to accuse us of all these things? Did you stop to think of the ramifications of Kate's video as described above? Or did you just write from your e-motional reaction to someone stirring the pot rather than sitting back being "nice"?

If we do not fully comprehend what has been done to us AND how the brainwashing tactics that keep us in "The System" work and have us fall for the "we will lead every revolution against us" shepherds, we will never escape "The System", be it this version or the next.

We take the FULL-responsibility we have seriously and we will continue to point out harm being done and falseHOODS being spread and will continue to point out harm being done and falseHOODS being spread even if EVERYONE hates us for it. At least we will have walked-the-talk!

Fiona & Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

From this thread: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203692712866417

A cow looking over the fence at a green pasture is still a slave to MAN, nothing has changed whether the cow remains in an existing enclosure or is led to another "greener pasture".

The point of true freedom is not to lead anyone or anything anywhere at any "time".

Everything about Christianity is this, despite some "good moral truths" and well-meaning people who truly want to help others and live good lives.

If only they would wake up to the brainwashing they have been subjected to!

Then they could lead even more powerful lives of TRUE-freedom.

What is the true freedom?

The "wild" animal that befriends you of its free-will or the animal that is captured and trained/forced to do MANS bidding?

Which freedom do you want to live for?

It's clear where we are heading - what the big picture is.

Christians are slaves to "The System" behind the Bible but they talk about freedom. The freedom they are talking about is "freedom" within "The System" which is no different from the cow going from one field to the next. This freedom is fraud because it is not real freedom. We commit fraud when we claim that we have our animals best interests at heart, all the while they are enslaved to us.

"The System" is just the image power of another MAN forcing others to live under their version of freedom in that image. Those images being the Kingdom of God, Freedom, etc. These are thoughts and ideas of another MAN. They are not unique and original to you. This is no different to the animals that we provide with stables and paddocks; they are not free. They are living under the image power that we place over them.

What is more invigorating; the wild horse who willingly allows you to get on its back and together as a shared experience go for a journey, with both of you having a unique, direct, shared experience, or the ride on a horse you have taken out of the stable and put a saddle on and then put the horse back in the stable after the ride?

What about children, brainwashed Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc.....?

Do you think educating them with The Bible is providing them with true freedom or is it the true loss of true freedom because they are subjected to another MANS FORCE of image power enforcing them under his/her/their image-power, their version of freedom?

Are you truly free in the supermarket as you shop or are you just provided with choices under the guise of "freedom"?

Why does MAN doubt that Living Creator provided everything MAN needs?

Why does MAN have to kidnap children to brainwash them under their IMAGE POWER?

Why does MAN doubt that Living-Creator has provided everything MANS child needs and everything every creature, plant, etc, needs?

Why do we have to act as impostors and trap unique original life-forms under our "storytelling"?

And we argue for this enslavement and we fight for it too.

Here is an example of this deception at play: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203677889935853

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Deanna Klastow

I want to say that EGO needs to take a back seat / I Love You and Your Wife for all the information shared and I Love Kate Rene for the same / Please open your heart and communicate instead of pointing fingers / we can never gain understanding if we think we have all the answers it is only in looking at things through different eyes that we get the whole picture. I really feel aligned with what Kate is saying about the words we use and identifying with the name and I also am aligned with the work of you and your wife. Both are valuable and both are moving us closer to the true path~ Love and Light ~ Namaste

17 May at 09:38

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Deanna Klastow

We are all at different levels of awakening and Kates information may awaken a certain person and your information might awaken a different person / That's why I Love the fact that many are doing and because of the difference in the awakened we are able to reach a wider array of people ~ If we say we are awakened and then bicker amongst each other on social media instead of talking in a private message to gain understanding between friends Then what message is being sent~ Like I said WE ARE ALL REMEMBERING LOVE

17 May at 09:42

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Rhokeheart Burkett

Why try to disassociate and why assume so much? You figure if Kate is "on the right track" you would try to integrate her work not disassociate from it. Seems like you should be teaming up with Kate not distancing yourself. I must question the intent of this post. Are you trying to create a conflict? Just cause Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin had similar sounds it doesn't mean Zeppelin was ripping of Sabbath or vice versa similar things manifest simultaneously. Truth recognizes no copyrights don't let your ego and it's lust for conflict distort whatever truth you may have found. Kate isn't ripping off anyones work she treads her own path.

17 May at 14:01

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Roy Turpin

Truth is shared with love. We all have been given a gift and that gift is for all. All I Am and have is available to all. Everything created through me has been given to me as a gift so how can I in truth lay any claim to it?

17 May at 11:02

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Brand Newman

https://soundcloud.com/brand-newman/a-7-year-old-can-do-it

A 7 Year Old Can Do It
A clip from Outside the box radio show, hosted by kate of gaia and the emerald table.

17 May at 12:34

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Sarah NoahKai

17 May at 12:59

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Arthur Cristian

@ Roy, if Truth is shared with love then this means FULL-DISCLOSURE otherwise it ain't the truth, it is something less than truth, a truth full of blind-spots to mislead the duped with. In the "name" of freedom is not freedom, is not truth and instead to the duped conned into believing in the "name" of freedom", it is a complete sabotage of real freedom because it has been forsaken for a shadow/reflection of truth/freedom. Here is an example of this deception at play: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203677889935853

This is a conversation with people that we claim are INTEL agents, Mark Darwin of Truthology and Max Igan. It all started because we asked Ivana https://www.facebook.com/ivana.dirlicsindija/posts/10152427160663469 why she was taking our posts down from her Facebook Wall when the information we are putting up is to help people wake up to how they are being manipulated. This is what Ivana says she lives/stands for too. We also said that Mark Darwin and Max Igan were INTEL BIG-TIME, implying, why is she protecting them by taking down posts that rout them out. Ivana posted this (above link): To my Perth friends! Don't miss this opportunity...Freedom Summit is going on tonight in your neighborhood....And they are offering free tickets!!! Lucky you guys I went to see it here in Sydney and it was a brilliant event. There are some amazing speakers to be there ......Don't miss it!

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Ivana replied:

Max Igan is not intel......neither is Mark Darwin. You got that wrong, BIGTIME Arthur/Fiona! Bigtime! By the way, I don't like when people sharing their stuff on my wall as a separate posts.....if there is something you want to say related to specific thread feel free and post it under that thread, but pls don't use my wall to promote your messages....it's not cool. Ta

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Mark Darwin replied:

Yes Arthur, I am intell and so is Max...... Mate you discredit yourself BIGTIME with such rubbish posts. Heal mate....

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We replied with these posts.............

In reference to this video posted here: https://www.facebook.com/jeanice.barcelo/posts/10203671779503096, Jeanice Barcello wrote today asking: Arthur Cristian - can you share more of your thoughts about the metal bowls? Do you feel the same about crystal bowls?

Hi Jeanice, everything of nature/earth/life, all sensory-life-forms, inanimate or not, has an ORIGINAL purpose for the dream of life - they exist where they are for that purpose. All we need to do is attune with them for them to reveal their true purpose with each of us.

This is very different to having your head spinning with stories about crystals, crystal healings, metal bowl resonances, etc, etc, not coming from these sensory-life-forms, BUT coming from impostors who hijacked the natural characters (information) of sensory-life-forms so they can impersonate them, to act as the 3rd party storytellers of information about the crystals that has not come directly from the crystals, etc, and making out that it does. The fact is this is a lie, they are lying, they made it all up and are the blind-spots making a terrible mess of our real lives.

Just as every grain of sand is unique/original, so is every crystal, so is every MAN. So how can we say that "quartz crystals do this and are good for that" when by doing so we are lumping all quartz crystals in one basket and all of MAN in one basket. Every time someone puts something in our head and we superimpose it on life, we are creating a blind spot because we are not communicating directly with the life form. This is how we form "The System".

This blind spot is a demon controlling your thoughts, feelings (turned/twisted into e-motions) and actions. How many blind spots do we all have, as we struggle to reclaim who we really are?????? We just have to keep recognising them and letting go, recognising them and letting go, recognising them and letting go, and trying to remain humble because we can be sure that the area where we put our noses in the air and either refuse to acknowledge our blind spots or justify them, are the areas where we are most in the grip of the demons.

EVERYTHING of the dream of life is sacred - not just the crystal spots, or the pristine spots, or a "special" tree. Even the land we have scarred and carved is sacred, even if it doesn't seem so because of what we have done to it. All the carving and scarring is the blind spots telling us that it is ok to carve and scar, which is why it is carved and scarred. If we didn't have the story telling of cars, non-natural houses, mobile phones, ovens, etc, in our heads, we would never think to have mines, or to create roads, etc. Same with mining for crystals.

The uniqueness and originality of everything in its natural, original and unique "place" is what allies with our uniqueness and originality too. If we are brought up by pristine nature, we are able to tune into the uniqueness and originality about everything and the uniqueness and originality of everything brings out the uniqueness and originality of each of us, which resonates back with nature. We co-create nature with our unique and original thoughts and dreams and nature gives us access to the unique, original thoughts and dreams of all of MAN co-creating with nature. This allows us to be present to all of creation to create our uniqueness/originality which expands the unique original dream of life with the presence of our unique original lives.

Imagine being a young child in nature without any system thoughts and stories in our heads; we have the natural ability to access all the uniqueness and originality of every life form of nature right here and now, the WHOLE of it, in present sense because that information is who we really are, it is our consciousness. And there is no "journey", no "ritual", no "training", to get to the information - it is there in present sense at every moment. It is only when we get blind spots that we disconnect from consciousness in present sense, creating "time", distance and separation so that we are no longer conscious of the information of the dream of life. It is when we are no longer conscious that we are able to scar, carve and destroy, unable and unwilling to sense the harm we are causing. We no longer sense the original unique purpose of what we are destroying. Our heritage has become an abomination passed on to our progeny. We have forsaken vast "parts" of who we really are.

Everything of life, from the ocean beds to the highest mountains, to the forests, to all the celestial bodies, to everything deep beneath Earth, is the breeze of MANS consciousness blowing across Earth to ruffle our hair and caress our faces, it is the warm embracing sunlight of MANS unique and original truth raising each of us in the joy and celebration of our elation for being the unique and original MAN we all really are. It is constantly present.

Untampered by "system thought", the blind spots, we honour, protect, celebrate, rejoice, nurture, and expand the uniqueness of our ancestors as our children will honour and protect ours, as we protect theirs by protecting them from system thought, the blind-spots. But alas, this is not to be - we are all deeply bogged down with storytelling blind-spots that are demons leading us out front with almost everything we think feel and do for a whole life-"time", destroying the uniqueness and originality of all of life. We are now the scarred and carved remains of who we were meant to be, of MAN. And people want to buy crystals that have been carved from Earth and sit "feeling their power" and performing rituals with them. Are crystals powerful? Of course they are, but in our present dumbed down state, we have no idea how to connect with them or use them to aid in our co-creation.

And here we are, creating "freedom" movements, trying to create freedom and truth for each other, all the time we are continuing to scar, carve and destroy MAN/Earth/nature. We already are uniquely and originally free, we just have to live it, be it (be left alone untampered to be truly free), just as all the information we need of creation, of our creation, is available, if we would only sense it, if our heads hadn't been tampered with.

How do foundations/trust/money/commerce/movements of freedom, etc, create freedom? They are just image power blind spots and this is what the whole Freemasonic/Satanic Intel world is all about - capturing gullible people through their blind spots, through storytelling from third parties, which is what the freedom/truth movement and all the INTEL agents involved is all about, desecrating our fellow MAN. It is full of men and women acting as imposters of a freedom (the thought of freedom is not freedom) over other men and women by claiming that their story telling of a freedom is the story of freedom when this is a BLATANT LIE.

How can you re-present another MAN and have the MAN still be unique and original? You can't it is impossible.

The freedom/truther INTEL agents come as rescuers, saviours, messiahs, etc, just as the Knights Templars waded into the Crusades, and performed benevolent works. They rescued those under a deeply traumatised image power problem to put them into another deeply traumatised image power problem. Nothing changed. The trauma, the blind spots, never left them.

The sleight of hand cleverly crafts its deception.

Everything about the Freemasonic/Satanic world is about Kidnapping MAN and putting MAN under the image power of their stories, their blind spots.

Nothing has changed.

This is blatant black magic because they are forcing other men and women under their image power of a freedom of their standing, their storytelling of freedom that forces everyone under their standing of a freedom. There is no uniqueness and originality of MAN here. It is still all about the "name" of freedom and we are just imposters committing fraud. One freedom fits all - this is communism, socialism, dictatorship, the Cesar Empire, democracy, the reincarnation of Roman Catholic Church and the Church of England under the Start Trek Federation version of freedom, aka the New World Order.

Watch out for the rescuers who come to lead you out of the frying pan into the fire. Watch out for Sacha Stone with his HUMANITAD, NEW EARTH PROJECT (Ushering In A New Era Of Planetary Innovation And Leadership - lolllllll), watch out for Frank O'Collins with his UCADIA and ONE HEAVEN, watch out for THRIVE, ZEITGEIST, UBUNTU, OPPT, SWISSINDO, ONE EARTH this or that, NEW WORLD this or that, ONE CONSCIOUSNESS this or that, watch out for David Icke, Jordan Maxwell, Kevin Annett, Benjamin Fulford, Mark Passio, Santos Bonacci ASTROTHEOLOGY, etc, watch out for FREEDOM this or that movements, organisations, like Mark Darwin with his TRUTHOLOGY and FREEDOM SUMMITS, etc, as THEY ARE ALL Knights Templar (Freemasonic/Satanic) engineered Intel bullshit. They are all blind-spots for the duped to remain blind to who they really are and what they are really part of. They are ALL shepherds to the sheeple, the duped.

With all of these movements/shepherds, everything is in the "name". It is not naturally expressed and lived in/of the MAN. It is the "name" Zeitgeist, the "name" Ubuntu", the "name" OPPT, the "name" Freedom. These are all shadows/reflections bouncing to and fro between the victims ears and they are all the blind spots keeping victims under control and pliant.

There are multi millions of men, women and children suffering under "The System", the blind spots, now being got at with the very same methods that got them in this situation in the first place, under the guise of getting them out of "The System". They are being provided with another system ("NAME") of "freedom"!

We are all unique and original, not one the same as the next, so how can we be provided with the same, textbook freedom?

This is a lie, fraud.

This problem is appearing everywhere now - remedies full of mantras that sound as though they are offering just what we need but are in fact only offering conformity and more image power, the blind spots. Again, we are relying on others to provide us with Freedom through the "name" Freedom, rather than taking FULL-responsibility for our lives in present-sense. Best we are all left alone to recreate our real-lives uniquely.

To expand on these themes in greater detail please read this post http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514 and follow the sequential order links provided to other Love For Life articles and videos which collectively provide the big-picture we see/sense, particularly these posts, listed below.

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At this link: https://www.facebook.com/kipper/posts/10203671756662525

Capri Adirim posted this comment:

Sacha Stone Beyond Time, Money & Fear - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKVT1p18-o4&feature=share
New Earth Founder Sacha Stone interviewed by CNW TV in Belgium. This short (graphically animated) interview outlines the New Earth vision and it's zero-point dimension. Please SHARE this widely and join the rising chorus of sovereignty and consciousness-in-action.

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We replied......

The World is "The System" - no such thing as "Old" Earth and "New" Earth - If we accept, honour, protect, nurture and celebrate uniqueness/originality of everything and don't interfere whatsoever then there is no "old" or :new" - just creation/co-creation of life from instant to instant of our every breath.

Some of the Humanitad members are Intel, people like Jerry Prus & John Walsh - He is revealing his part in the NWO ---- he says..... in reference to Chile "held in the protectorate in the "trust" outside the jurisdiction of any nation state under pure law".

WHAT A LOAD OF SPIN-DOCTORING BULLSHIT THIS. IS.... "UNDER PURE LAW".

What Pure Law?

Whose Pure Law?

And who were the legal-papers filed to/with?

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Capri Adirim replied

Arthur he said 'pure law' is individual law. We each choose individually. "Do no harm" imho should be universal.

Arthur, I am sure even within your own home their are 'rules' such as keep the toilet seat down, keep the music at a level that does not disrupt other members of the family that say are trying to sleep/nap etc. etc. Ones 'job/rule' may be that one takes out the garbage while the other does dishes etc. Unless we live completely autonomous (no other human beings around to interact/commune with) then in reality we can't really 'do as we please'.

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We replied................

And who is this lawful legal authority, based in pure law, with the power/force to protect this community?

Sounds like the Federation (NWO) of Star Trek coming together behind the scenes. Watch out..... anyone who believes this shit is being had, are being led down another yellow brick road.

And has faculties for "economics"!

And much of the infrastructure are dead corpse buildings requiring "The System" to build, maintain them etc..... The NWO is a cashless economy which AND he supports "Virtual Government" ----- UNDER UNIVERSAL LAW..... LOLLLLLLL etc, etc..... This is not a remedy whatsoever.

He also says "the mask is almost off and once that mask falls and the emperor is found to have no clothes standing behind the curtain the "world" is going to change very very quickly......"

Would love to have a discussion with him". He wrote to us a few years ago. He never answered the questions we raised with him back then.

This post is expanding on what we wrote to Jeanice Barcello as posted above:

They are BLIND SPOTS Capri...... there is no such thing as "individual law" and "universal", again this is "NAME" "individual law" and "NAME" "universal", implying "NAME" do no harm "uni-verse all law" and implying "NAME" "FREEDOM"

Remember the stuff we put up about phonetics: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203667898126064 (there are a few of the same post floating around, this is just one of them)

Universe = UNI - VERSE - ALL = brainwashing = blind spots.

Individual = In Divide U All = brainwashing = blind spots.

Uni = ONE = a combining form occurring in loanwords from Latin (universe ), used, with the meaning “one,” in the formation of compound words (unicycle ) - NOTICE THE WORD "LOAN-WORDS" MEANING NOT YOURS and CHOICE - THIS IS NOT FREEDOM.

Verse = metrical composition; poetry, especially as involving metrical form. a particular type of metrical line: a hexameter verse. a succession of metrical feet written, printed, or orally composed as one line; one of the lines of a poem. (not in technical use) a stanza. MEANING = CONTRIVED, MECHANICAL, PRE-DETERMINED = this is not freedom - this is CHOICE! You did not dream, invent and manufacture the car, you just learnt to drive and started driving it. Again, this is not freedom, this is choice.

All = the whole of (used in referring to quantity, extent, or duration): all the cake; all the way; all year. the whole number of (used in referring to individuals or particulars, taken collectively): all students. the greatest possible (used in referring to quality or degree): with all due respect; with all speed. every: all kinds; all sorts. any; any whatever: beyond all doubt. MEANING = ONE SHOE FITS ALL FOREVER = ONE SYSTEM (many system thoughts in one system = law - individual law, pure law, universal law and all other bullshit laws conjured up) - THIS IS ABSOLUTE - THIS IS ALL THE CHOICES YOU'VE GOT - THIS IS NOT FREEDOM!

Metrical = pertaining to meter or poetic measure. composed in meter or verse. pertaining to measurement. MEANING - RULES MADE UP BY SOMEONE ELSE - NOT YOU - Again, CHOICE - NOT FREEDOM!

Measurement = the act of measuring. a measured dimension. extent, size, etc., ascertained by measuring. a system of measuring or measures: liquid measurement. MEANING - THE ENCLOSURE - YOU CAN'T OPERATE/THINK OUTSIDE IT.

Unicycle = a vehicle with one wheel, especially a pedal-driven device kept upright and steered by body balance, commonly used by acrobats and other performers. - MEANING - YOU ONLY HAVE ONE OPTION = CHOICE - YOU ARE TRAPPED IN THE CYCLE OF THE UNI ---------- VERSE

In = (used to indicate inclusion within space, a place, or limits): walking in the park. (used to indicate inclusion within something abstract or immaterial): in politics; in the autumn. (used to indicate inclusion within or occurrence during a period or limit of time): in ancient times; a task done in ten minutes. (used to indicate limitation or qualification, as of situation, condition, relation, manner, action, etc.): to speak in a whisper; to be similar in appearance. (used to indicate means): sketched in ink; spoken in French. MEANING = Inside the enclosure, the word spells of "name" that imprison you, which all comes from education. You have had 20 years + experience of system thought to prepare you for the "name" words of Sacha, etc. Very few of us have original thoughts. This is all black magic in action, compelling you to perform under these word spells of "name".

Divid (in prescriptions) divide. In Latin, divid means divide

Divide = to separate into parts, groups, sections, etc. to separate or part from something else; sunder; cut off. to deal out in parts; distribute in shares; apportion. to cleave; part. to separate in opinion or feeling; cause to disagree: The issue divided the senators. MEANING = SEPARATION FROM DIRECT EXPERIENCE WITH NATURE = SEPARATION FROM WHO WE REALLY ARE AND WHAT WE ARE REALLY PART OF. Why else would you fight for the spells that Sacha is weaving? Blind spots keeping you blind to the "name" spells. All this is reaction to trauma.

U = You = the pronoun of the second person singular or plural, used of the person or persons being addressed, in the nominative or objective case: You are the highest bidder. It is you who are to blame. We can't help you. This package came for you. Did she give you the book? one; anyone; people in general: a tiny animal you can't even see. (used in apposition with the subject of a sentence, sometimes repeated for emphasis following the subject): You children pay attention. You rascal, you! Informal. (used in place of the pronoun your before a gerund): There's no sense in you getting upset. Archaic. a. yourself; yourselves: Get you home. Make you ready. b. a plural form of the pronoun ye. noun, plural yous. something or someone closely identified with or resembling the person addressed: Don't buy the bright red shirt—it just isn't you. It was like seeing another you. the nature or character of the person addressed: Try to discover the hidden you. MEANING = THE IDENTIFICATION OF THE HUE-MAN WITH THE "NAMES" OF "THE SYSTEM" - THE REFLECTION/SHADOWS OF YOU BOUNCING TO AND FRO BETWEEN THE EARS THAT IS NOT YOU.

All = REFER ABOVE

Individual = They divide us with their brainwashing of creed, culture, nation, etc, and rule us with the choices they provide us to perform "name" in "The System" - You did not create the English language with legalese, its mathematics, its geometry, its university courses & careers, titles, standings, etc, you did not create the education, religion, politics, law, Hollywood, TV, Media, Advertising, entertainment, supermarkets, highways, transport, corporations doing whatever, etc, etc, AND YOU DID NOT CREATE "NAME". They are all just choices provided for you. THIS IS NOT FREEDOM. See the post on the Mountain MAN charged and arrested with eating food in the forest because he was hungry: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203666156282519

You are seriously mistaking choice for freedom here. Choice has nothing to do with freedom. Shopping down the aisles of a supermarket is not freedom, it is choice, its ALL BEEN PROVIDED FOR YOU BY OTHERS = slaves/slavery.

What you are seeing is a BLATANT PSYOP PROGRAM where you have been hypnotised to perform to suggestion, to move to your master's command, all the while in a deep sleep.

The extensive brainwashing you have already been provided with is where you use your choice for imagining "individual law" or "universal law" and with it, "freedom". There is NO FREEDOM here. Only sheeple go through the gates of enclosures of one choice of green paddock to another but they have no freedom because they were already enclosed and forced by sheep dogs, etc, to move from one enclosure to another. Sheeple do the same thing when shopping down the isles of supermarkets or driving on roads to petrol stations, clothing shops, etc, etc......

IT IS ALL CHOICE - IT IS NOT FREEDOM

In fact, only sheeple are trapped in the UNI-VERSE-ALL that is ONE STORY going around and around and around their heads, bouncing to and fro as shadows/reflections of "name" "freedom", but this is a blatant lie because it was really only a choice already provided for them - they were already got at before they were duped into believing they had freedom within the story-telling of the uni-verse they are performing/believing in as "NAME" "FREEDOM".

Working together as a team effort around the home has NOTHING to do with universal or individual law. That is freedom when all first parties come to the table to co-create their uniqueness/originality for the team effort. NOTE: there are no third parties coming in-between any of them, telling them how to think, feel and act about anything. A MASSIVE DIFFERENCE HERE.

We need to be really vigilant and discerning about the blind-spots that are making a mess of our lives as we think/believe they are part of our true-freedom, when the FACT is, they were choices, and nothing more, meaning there is no freedom to be found there = YOU HAVE NO FREEDOM.

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We then posted all of the above on Ivana's thread and then posted this comment

Mark, please show us in all your work and in all Max's work, where you are providing freedom and not choice and that you are not providing the "names" of freedom and manipulating and using and abusing many, many people in the "name" of freedom, when it is only choice masquerading as freedom. How many curses are you manipulating into processing in the "name" of money as they react to trauma? You probably need to do some background work into what we are saying to comprehend fully what we are saying but, if you are really interested in truth and freedom for all, we assume that you will leave no stone unturned, in case you are on the wrong path. If you can't prove it and you won't change your ways, then who are you answerable to, who are you working for? Who is your master?

There are many INTEL agents out there spreading lies and causing people to get hurt in the process and there are also many, many people extremely angry about many, many things and some of them are vigilantes who have no problem carrying guns and using them. They have been reading our work, and the work of others who are putting out information that is waking people up to the truth of how people are being manipulated across the board. Many of them have been watching the scene for years and we have been asked to join them, which we will not do because we are not into violence. They have been harmed in various ways and those who are out there in front, leading the way in the psyop freedom/truth movement, as well as though associated with them, will be sitting ducks when the pressure cooker blows. For example, someone like Ivana could be a target if she is associated with you and associated with the INTEL networks that have caused so much harm to so many. Even Stephanie is a sitting duck, and all the others who support you. This is true healing that we are offering you here. Pull out, save your lives and stop the harm, stop the lying, stop the blatant manipulation. .

Our commitment is to wake people up to the real tactics and more and more people are waking up to how they have been used and abused. We don't think you guys realise the enormity of the backlash swelling against all INTEL.

This is Fiona and Arthur both writing in all these posts.

17 May at 14:07

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Roy Turpin

People see life through their own reality tunnel. What is full disclosure for one may actually be used to enclose others. Who takes credit for something i am always on the lookout for. I see the profit motive behind much of this so if there is any blind spot it would be spotting hoo is searching for something to profit from. Dont matter to me if its fame, fortune or simply wanting to be recognized for what one has offered rather than give it all away. The truth sets us free when we claim ourselves. This is not something i can determine for anyone but me. I can see how the NAME is used for a system of slavery and if i am in truth i will do everything in my way to dismantle false spiritual contracts in commerce. This reveals the blind spots in me and in each one of us. We can hide out and have a degree of support from a system of lies or we can stand in our truth and call out the bullshit.

17 May at 14:57

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Roy Turpin

"We get more compassionate as we evolve. More humble. More subtle. More aware of how little we know. We don’t get superior. We don’t form cults of personality. We don’t think we have it all worked out. If we imagine ourselves ‘all that’, then we have actually devolved. I trust the ones who know a little something but don’t know a whole lot, more than the ones who ‘know it all’. I trust the ones who realeyes how far they have yet to travel. We have so much more to learn. All of us. Let's walk together, side by side." ~ Jeff Brown

17 May at 16:35

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Orion Nebula

Oh boy .... I think you got it completely wrong this time Arthur - you are way off base on this one .

17 May at 18:34

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Dominic Toomey

gaia is a label,label is a word is a spell

the message of having full responsibility doesn't require a label or an icon.

at the end it says "our" reality will reign or words to that affect https://translate.google.com/#la/en/ruo

17 May at 20:22

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Anja Vis

I am all for cooperation and joyning. not all will do exact the same work anyway not all can express themselves, or even close to how others can express themselves. We should see the ways to join forces not to divide. of course all points of view of the matter should be disclosed on what kate things and what arthur thinks and from there cooperation is possible. When the intuition of som sort is born and one has some kind of questions, they should be adressed of both parties and answered. some things may come across one or the other way. all should be adressed and get answers first before an opinion is being made. no conquer or divide should be played o this stage and point of time.

17 May at 23:02

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Arthur Cristian

Sigh....does anyone actually try to really sense where we are coming from?

We have a right to disassociate with someone if we see that the work we share is being portrayed in the wrong light and in a way that will not create peace, joy, etc, for all, but will create chaos and harm, the very things that we are working so hard to get away from.

We set our work free for others to benefit from in whatever way they feel BUT we are also protective of the work we do, just as parents are protective of their children. Is there something wrong with this? Is a parent accused of having a big ego when he/she protects his/her child?

Let's forget all the e-motional reactions here - please keep calm and read what we actually say without letting the filters in your head add a whole lot of meaning that isn't there. We stand for the truth and we protect the truth, even when this makes us unpopular, which we often are. Why is it a taboo to protect the truth? Is it because we are not being "nice"?

To tell people to drop the "name" without showing the remedy that allows us to do this peacefully without inviting the FORCE of "The System" into our lives is irresponsible and dangerous. People with an audience have a huge responsibility to the people who listen to them. They need to be prepared to check out everything they are saying thoroughly and leave no stone unturned when it comes to ensuring that what they are saying is a) true and b) not going to cause any harm.

We regularly examine what we are thinking and feeling with a fine tooth comb to ensure that we are being as truthful as possible in the best way we can with what we know up to this point. Obviously, we still have mountains to learn and in a year we will have learned even more and honed our work accordingly.

In the same way, if someone points out something that they think is wrong with our work, we will think about what they say and take it into consideration. This is not true for many people out there with audiences - we point out things to them where we do not see/sense truth, and they ignore it. How sincere are they in seeking truth then? If we are not prepared to bare who we are and everything we think and feel and subject those thoughts and feelings to scrutiny, we will never separate the truth from the lies.

The way Kate is promoting the "name" stuff could cause great harm to a lot of people. There is no REMEDY there. This is no different from David Icke and all the other "we will lead every revolution against us" shepherd who tell you everything that is wrong with the system (except the brainwashing tactics used - we tell you those) but do not offer a practical, day by day, step by step remedy.

We have been on the front line of this since we started Love For Life March 2005 and website December 2006. Our research into the big-picture goes back to 1971/1972 onwards.

We have dealt with many, many, many people, many families with young children, who are on the verge of losing everything or have already lost everything because they followed the add-vice of freedom truther sovereigns who told them all sorts of tactics that they said would work, only to find that, whoops, the FORCE of "The System" takes no notice of paperwork, of liens, of UCC filings, of "read off a script" dialogue.

And when everything is collapsing around them, are the freedom truther sovereigns there holding their hands and picking up the pieces? NOOOOOO. They are nowhere to be seen and they are certainly NOT taking FULL-responsibility for the fact that all the promises they made about their amazing methods have come to nothing. And this is not just one or two phone calls we have had, We are talking about HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of people with their lives in tatters.

If you can comprehend this, perhaps you can comprehend why we are so quick off the mark to point out where the work we share is being used in a way that could potentially cause a lot of harm, as well as where we see the work of others having the potential to do harm. We do not want our work, or us, to be associated with that harm because it discredits all the hard work we have put in over the years AND takes people away from looking at the remedy, the practical, day by day, step by step remedy we offer.

Kate is right when he says that we have to let go of the "name" but we cannot just do so without some preparation and, most importantly, without fully comprehending how the "name" works and how the brainwashing of "The System" keeps us addicted to using the "name" and attached to the "name".

Kate tells us to just give up the "name" and stand strong and we will become invincible. HHHMMMMM. Does he warn people that giving up the "name" also means giving up ALL the benefits and services of "The System" because it is our claiming of the "name" that gives us access to those benefits and services. Yep, from now on, no leases, no mortgages, no driver's licences, no healthcare, no banking, no insurance, no government pensions/handouts, no credit rating, no passport, no car registration, and, when they bring in a cashless society, no access to their shops = no food, water, shelter, etc, unless you have created a food forest or are happy to live off what you can forage. Does Kate make this clear to everyone? NO

We have people come to see us and they want to do what Arthur has done and give up all contracts with the "name" but we point out that the only reason he has been able to do so at this point is because he has people around him who are committed to supporting him. This is not something lightly done without a strong community around you.

When we have Kindoms off the ground, we will have places for people to come seeking refuge from "The System" where there will be food, shelter, water, nurturing and all for free. Then people can walk away from the "name" without having to go bush or sponge off those who maybe cannot afford it, do not comprehend it and do not have the support of others around them.

To those of you who have written to us accusing us of needing to put the ego to rest, or of not being "free" with our work, or of bickering, being divisive, of not being compassionate or humble, of not being sensitive about people awakening in different ways at different paces, and of whatever other sins we have committed by speaking honestly about the situation, did you actually consider any of the above points before rushing in to accuse us of all these things? Did you stop to think of the ramifications of Kate's video as described above? Or did you just write from your e-motional reaction to someone stirring the pot rather than sitting back being "nice"?

If we do not fully comprehend what has been done to us AND how the brainwashing tactics that keep us in "The System" work and have us fall for the "we will lead every revolution against us" shepherds, we will never escape "The System", be it this version or the next.

We take the FULL-responsibility we have seriously and we will continue to point out harm being done and falseHOODS being spread and will continue to point out harm being done and falseHOODS being spread even if EVERYONE hates us for it. At least we will have walked-the-talk!

Fiona & Arthur Cristian
Love For Life

18 May at 01:45

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Arthur Cristian

From this thread: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203692712866417

A cow looking over the fence at a green pasture is still a slave to MAN, nothing has changed whether the cow remains in an existing enclosure or is led to another "greener pasture".

The point of true freedom is not to lead anyone or anything anywhere at any "time".

Everything about Christianity is this, despite some "good moral truths" and well-meaning people who truly want to help others and live good lives.

If only they would wake up to the brainwashing they have been subjected to!

Then they could lead even more powerful lives of TRUE-freedom.

What is the true freedom?

The "wild" animal that befriends you of its free-will or the animal that is captured and trained/forced to do MANS bidding?

Which freedom do you want to live for?

It's clear where we are heading - what the big picture is.

Christians are slaves to "The System" behind the Bible but they talk about freedom. The freedom they are talking about is "freedom" within "The System" which is no different from the cow going from one field to the next. This freedom is fraud because it is not real freedom. We commit fraud when we claim that we have our animals best interests at heart, all the while they are enslaved to us.

"The System" is just the image power of another MAN forcing others to live under their version of freedom in that image. Those images being the Kingdom of God, Freedom, etc. These are thoughts and ideas of another MAN. They are not unique and original to you. This is no different to the animals that we provide with stables and paddocks; they are not free. They are living under the image power that we place over them.

What is more invigorating; the wild horse who willingly allows you to get on its back and together as a shared experience go for a journey, with both of you having a unique, direct, shared experience, or the ride on a horse you have taken out of the stable and put a saddle on and then put the horse back in the stable after the ride?

What about children, brainwashed Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc.....?

Do you think educating them with The Bible is providing them with true freedom or is it the true loss of true freedom because they are subjected to another MANS FORCE of image power enforcing them under his/her/their image-power, their version of freedom?

Are you truly free in the supermarket as you shop or are you just provided with choices under the guise of "freedom"?

Why does MAN doubt that Living Creator provided everything MAN needs?

Why does MAN have to kidnap children to brainwash them under their IMAGE POWER?

Why does MAN doubt that Living-Creator has provided everything MANS child needs and everything every creature, plant, etc, needs?

Why do we have to act as impostors and trap unique original life-forms under our "storytelling"?

And we argue for this enslavement and we fight for it too.

Here is an example of this deception at play: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203677889935853

18 May at 02:03

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Anja Vis

i see your point clearly Arthur. it is the only way.

18 May at 03:11

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Rhokeheart Burkett

Truth needs no one to guard it.

18 May at 07:57

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Arthur Cristian

Agreed, this is what we say repeatedly in our work BUT we are protecting naive, duped, gullible men, women and children oblivious to the Psyop Tactics being used to destroy remedy from being applied which will do immense harm to them down-the-line. This is clearly explained in our posts in this thread.

18 May at 12:48

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Shaun Hamer

And if Kate is genuine,,,,,,,,, what of all you have said here?
From where I am sitting, we need to cone together.do listen to Kates shows
I think you have misread kate, perhaps because of shows in the past which were vitriolic and as Kate has said, terribly at effect to the fear porn agenda.
This has changed, the show is open to all, and I have contact with many who listen in,
It is only a concept of knowing who you are that is the focus of the show, not any agenda or system, I think youd be pleasantly surprised if you tuned in Arthur.

And I guess the question has to be asked
"Could humanity suffer more than It does under the boot of the crown."

And is it worse to know, and then willfully assist the crown by allowing the fraud to continue. Than it is to facilitate it unwittingly in our ignorance.

The main focus at the moment is not on any submitting of paperwork, or even to act on any of the information. it is to get the info on the birth bond fraud into the consciousness as widely as possible. Particularly those within the ranks of the system, that they may have the choice to cease doing harm.
And it seems they are, one by one.

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Arthur Cristian

The posts/comments we put up is directed at the blatant Psyop tactics being used, hence our dissociation - our comments/posts clearly explain where we are coming from. Suggest you read them again. If Kate is innocent then he has nothing to be concerned about - what we shared needed to be clearly stated. We refuse our lives, our work, to be associated with no remedy, which comes hand in hand with all our work.

As far as we are concerned we've sensed Kate to be Intel for almost three years now. Nothing has occurred since to change our views on Kate. We had many dealings with him back then. We don't say these things lightly, we don't just rush in and make comments like this unless we have contemplated, contemplated, contemplated, scrutinised, scrutinised, scrutinised, and listened over and and over again to our senses, gut instincts, perceptions, insights, (ancestors all around us), etc. They have never failed us thus far.

It's better to put all our life-energy into the remedy that is Kindom than even to be spending time waking people up to the birth bond fraud because, even if everyone wakes up to it, they still don't have a living remedy in everyday practical sense and thus are ripe for the latest INTEL shepherd with the right buzz words and mantras to sweep them up. Remedy is VITAL, which is why we push it so hard.

We have to start living the remedy all the while waking up to the depth of deception that has been practiced against us. If we don't create the light of kindom, there is nowhere to fall back on when we wake up to the fact that "The System" is rotten to the core, that we are stuck in the darkness of no remedy, no light. Talking about the birth bond fraud is not getting rid of it. Creating Kindoms so that we no longer need "The System" in everyday practical sense and the birth bond fraud doesn't matter any more because we have already cast off our system chains and "The System" fades away as we work on expanding the light of Kindom all around.

18 May at 14:50

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Vicki Victoria

It's all in the sound. It's a psychops guys. The info is OK. But it's an over-load and can't reach the target audience....the people. Only the choir. My son came running when he heard the drums...when he saw the writings he lost interest immediately in the content. Send this video without music and see how it goes.....it will be a classic fail army. Me thinks the content is true but the packaging is shit.....why is that? Me thinks if there is any difficulty in the transfer of information...it's not real or they are trying to create a meme about something.. We are at a stage now when we only need remedy...the rest is superfluous. Talk really is cheap. I say grow Kale and buy a parka because it's going to be a bumpy ride folks.....

18 May at 22:18

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Arthur Cristian

Hail Vicki.......

Another example of a Psyops Program in operation........

Since 2007/2008 we've been saying Alan Watt's is Intel too. Notice how all the talk is about everything wrong in great detail, etc, exposing all the psyops programs within a Psyops Program (Russian Dolls) but never addresses the main Psyops Program (the real culprit) and typically NO MENTION OF REMEDY.

You won't find any remedy coming from Alan Watt's that gets everyone out of "The System" in this life forevermore..... NOTHING ------- !!!!!

"Let me tell you a story son"........blah blah blah blah blah blah blah..........hours later and the storytelling is over and the duped now feeling good being "realised" as an awakened "truther", are going straight back into the daily grind of a mundane robotic life in "The System", a programmed life/lie they never left --------------- nothing has changed anywhere for anyone....!!!!

And when sufficient people are awakened and arise with realisations of "freedom", "freedom", "freedom", "freedom", "peace", "peace", "peace"............ yeahhhhhhh yeahhhhhhh yeeeaaaHHHHHHHH - the changes brought about are only within the main Russian Doll, never outside of it!!!!

Such are the ways of Intel Operatives Peddling Psyops Programs.....!!!!!

Welcome to the New World Order, the Russian Doll that never left the scene.

These type of very clever Psyops Programs are implemented by Intel Operatives who are trained to bounce off the work created by generations of their predecessors (Russian Doll) who created all the shit in the first instance that is now being clearly reflected by the "inside knowledge" of an Alan Watt's (another Russian Doll within layers of Russian Dolls) who was a "learned initiate" going through the many years to become "illuminated" (the next generation of Psyops Programmers implementing the next stage of their founders grand design) mixing amongst their "brethren".

Watch out for slick wolves (con artists) dressed in "good guys" lambs clothing.

And what do you think is the main Russian Doll that has everyone duped and trapped? Please post your answers here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VllwRgSECcw#t=116

And the program is brought to you by Alex Jones Prison Planet, another Intel Operative working for the next fashion statement of his brotherHOODS Russian Doll.

Alan Watt - A Globalist Agenda For a Dumbed Down Domesticated Society - A Prison Planet special

21 May at 01:59

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Arthur Cristian

Vicki........... Aaahhhhhh, the ways to trap a wolf dressed as a lamb.

21 May at 02:04

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THE TRUTHFUL ARE THE HEAVENLY AND I AM KINGLY NOBILITY
HE HE HE
Huge baby

21 May at 05:11

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Steve Wilson

awesome

21 May at 08:02

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Wade Libbis

Top Rabbi Exposes Jewish Racism
http://www.davidduke.com

21 May at 21:42

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

Kate of Gia is a guy dresses as a girl, new age lost guy!! Promoting lucis trust doctrines without even knowing it, he blocked me for questioning some of his bullshit!!

24 May at 21:03

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Shaun Hamer

You missed the perspective.
This division is so badly thought out.
Being at effect to the definitions of language is still being 'in' the matrix.
Every lie, every falsehood is a curse.
It's best to 'know' what we are saying,
Rather than to project with logic, based in alphabet language, attacks, which are unfounded.

Fear is the mind killer. Know thyself.

24 May at 21:31

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

Santos bonacci and other

24 May at 22:05

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Jaba WS

By pointing 1 finger.... 3 fingers always point on ourself! No Harm No Lost! Exposing ideas is not the same than pointing finger on SOMEONE! Everyone have his own choice!

24 May at 22:09

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

Just as giving direction but being lost your self!

24 May at 22:11

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g7QQ3QEHU0k

Lucis Trust One World Religion 2009 Part 1/2

The Lucis Trust is the corner stone for the One World Religion.

24 May at 22:21

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

EXPOSED! Lucis Trust President Speaks ~ Satan, Lucifer, & the UN

24 May at 22:21

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Jaba WS

Ali ... you know you refers allot to videos and other links all the time! I think if we want to get ride of the system we have to stop the things that are coming from the system ... all this intellectual stuff is only half truth! And half truth is entier LIE! Let's start to make our own creation and explain things as simple as we can ... LIFE IS SIMPLE!

24 May at 22:23

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Arthur Cristian

Shaun, scrutiny has nothing to do with what you are claiming is going on here, NOTHING.

Why are you reacting so much?

Again, refer to the questions raised by us with Kate, Max, Mark Darwin, Stephen, etc........ We ask the tough questions.

Can any of them answer the questions honestly without character assassinations???

NONE have thus far....

They can't because it will expose the lies they promote out in the open for all to see, which forces them to desist from what they are promoting/doing/saying. Meaning, they lose all their e-go power over their victims.

They are most welcome to scrutinise the work we do and the insights we share but they avoid this with COMPLETE SILENCE.

What is this telling you, especially when all they have got to offer is NOTHING, hence the character assassination attacks.

THEY CAN'T BACK THEIR CLAIMS BUT WE CAN.

Go where truth takes you. This is what we always do. To us, this is the real everyday-practical-sense-message behind "you shall know them by their fruits".

24 May at 22:33

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

So by somebody claiming to own it, I becomes theirs,

24 May at 22:29

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Jaba WS

If you think you OWN then you get OWNed! Is the same with possession Is just not to use and spread THEIR creation! Is to put our thought into MOTION!

24 May at 22:34

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

Exactly

24 May at 22:37

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Arthur Cristian

Jaba, scrutiny has nothing to do with "own" - You are aware of this? Asking the tough questions is critical to routing out all the lies and liars. Using scrutiny means we are free from attachment to any belief system because everything we think, feel and do is always under the threat of scrutiny exposing lies and liars, which is what we have to do if we really dream to move forward with truth as our power to create a living paradise all-around-us.

24 May at 22:38

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Jaba WS

well yes i get this but i don't get why you say this ... please correct me, but where did i say scrutiny have something to do with owning?

24 May at 22:42

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

Life is just a dream and true life will truly wake up after death

24 May at 22:46

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Jaba WS

I think it is quit simple to explain that everything that is part of the WORLD need a System, Pro-Gramming, Codes (words) and do not exist ...

And living on Earth is the real deal back to life and reality!

24 May at 22:49

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Shaun Hamer

Arthur I am not reacting, I wish to understand this situation,
Besides, you posted he name at the top of the thread, if I said nothing, would people assume I had run. Away with my tail between my legs,

I have gained much insight from your work, and Kate's, but not the same detail,

It is apparent to me when people say Kate is promoting one world religion, they have either not listened to the show for ages, or their intent is to find fault.

Nowhere can I find a reference to one world religion in kate's work.
So I suggest that that suggestion is a lie.

From my neutral perspective.
I have no attachment to the outcome of anyone being, or not being Intel.

As i say I wish to understand nit to take sides.
That is polarised and dualistic, which is as good as apathy and blindness to the architects of the system.

24 May at 22:49

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Arthur Cristian

Nowhere, just asking you to be sure you are clear on both "own" and scrutiny.

24 May at 22:49

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Arthur Cristian T

he exposure of the Psyops Programs clearly exposes the true agenda......

words like Universal, being a classic

Uni- ONE
Verse - story/system repeated over and over and over again
All - everyone under its image power worshiping the uni-verse.

There are others, like "planet", "aliens" out there (refer to the original post for more on this.

The word Planet is part of a MASSIVE PSYOP PROGRAM - conning victims into accepting something out there, outside of MAN, something of greater power than MAN.

This is clearly demonstrating a ONE WORLD RELIGION under another "oneness" guise.

See if you can rout out all the other key-trigger words of a Psyop Program being performed by Kate.

24 May at 22:59

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Shaun Hamer

Depending on which 'definitions' we accept
these words could be assumed and presumed to mean many things.

I get what you are saying, but this isn't the message I hear on outside the box,

Busting the alphabet languages removing assumption and presumption, so as not to be defined by another, and introducing co-creative intent, is more the message I hear.

24 May at 23:08

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Shaun Hamer

Being causal over our intentions rather than at effect to the projections and definitions of system and alphabet languages.

24 May at 23:10

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

Kate say things we are gods lol

24 May at 23:14

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Arthur Cristian

That's what many Christians thought about being a Christian until they woke up and fled it - Like we say the greatest lie and liar is the one closest to the truth, they cause the greatest damage of all. The very instrument we helped to expose back in 2005 that has completely destroyed the law in all its forms you now protect because you are still wrestling with blind spots. LOLLLLL not at you the MAN Shaun, just at the hypocrisy of witnessing the symptoms of a believer trying to protect his "master idol". Please take this with good cheer, we seek no harm upon you whatsoever but this is how you are presently coming across. Just remember, if you have no remedy to get you out of "the system" NOW, you will be forced to accept the remedy they will offer you down-the-line because you and others had been caught with your pants down. Refer to the Alan Watt post. All our work is on setting into motion 2005-2006-2007 "The Steps Of Kindom" remedy - no one has yet found fault in it or debunked it, see if you can. Why is Kate & co completely ignoring this very simple practical doable do no harm remedy?

24 May at 23:21

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Kenneth Jeffrey Slem

ONLY THE TRUE ARE THE FREE AND HAVE ETERNAL WORTH.

24 May at 23:27

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Arthur Cristian

Shaun, to us, you are half way there, learning the secrets of "name" and alphabets, etc is great but is not enough because until you have overcome all the demons/pull of e-motions that presently plague you, you will always remain trapped in "The System" with everyone else who is trapped with no way of getting out of it.

The Love For Life remedy work is far far far far far far far far far far far more comprehensive to heal all of MANS woes in present-sense than the bastardised diluted version of our work being promoted by Kate Of Gaia. This is fact. The pull of e-motion, reaction to trauma, image power, "spells, "spelling", all-seeing "i", etc, etc, is what you will have to confront if you are ever to be fully healed and clear to move forward with a do no harm remedy in present-sense. Until we completely overcome self-centeredness we are stuffed and trapped in hell.

24 May at 23:31

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Shaun Hamer

no offence taken.

24 May at 23:34

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Arthur Cristian

We are clear that you are a very good hearted MAN and is questioning everything including us. This is very healthy to see/sense. Good on you, most do not have the confidence or the guts to do this.

24 May at 23:35

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

Dajjal [ The Anti Christ } by Ahmad Thomson
In the name of Allah The Merciful the Compassionate. And when the wizards came, Moses said to them: Cast your cast. And when they cast, Moses said: That which you have brought is magic. by: AJay Algii https://m.facebook.com/notes/ajay-algii/dajjal-the-anti-christ-by-ahmad-...

24 May at 23:40

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

Arthur Cristian so you advocate that heaven and hell are a place on earth??

24 May at 23:47

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Jaba WS

25 May at 00:48

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Arthur Cristian

Yes, through the water of our breath every thing is MAN-made including hell. We are fully-responsible for everything we experience. We are all at the effect of each others dreaming, intentions, thoughts, ideas, etc, set into motion in the water of our breath.

25 May at 01:18

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Deanna Klastow

Sweet Grass baskets from South Carolina

25 May at 02:29

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Deanna Klastow

25 May at 02:29

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Arthur Cristian

Deanna, scrutiny has nothing to do with making a MAN small. We go where truth takes us. Please show us where we are lying. All we have done here is point out the FACTS. Again, you are peddling heaps of "buzz words" that are NOT proof of fact, are NOT coming from our intentions, our actions for saying and doing what we have clearly stated in our Disassociation From The Work of Kate of Gaia. Like we said in the other post:

"Deanna, based on what you have written, you are presently showing up the performance/act of a deeply brainwashed, deeply traumatised, new age space cadet. There is hardly any, if any, original unique thoughts/dreams coming from who you really are in this post.

To us, what you have posted is a load of bullshit "buzz words", that is all you've got. Yes we get your sentiments, we've all been hammered severely by lies/trauma/etc for many many "years", and our battered hearts pour out to you and your family, etc, but having you presently going down the yellow brick road distributing buzz words" is not going to help you face reality, whatsoever, because they are not proof of fact that the beautiful good hearted woman that you really are has escaped the clutches of a powerful Psyop Program presently doing your head in.

We love you, the real-living woMAN, our sister/co-creator of life, and is why we call an ace an ace and refuse to butter you up with "nice looking good" words - we don't need your approval, appreciation, etc.

You can throw us in your head-space garbage in if you want but we will always point out bullshit when we see/sense it. This is what all real friends should be doing for each other."

Deanna, to us this is all make-believe "No one has ever made himself great by showing how small someone else is".

25 May at 04:34

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

What will happen the the senses and logic are deceived by the grand deceiver and his servents??

25 May at 04:37

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Jaba WS

how do you want to deceive senses without words?

25 May at 04:37

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

We are not creators!! We are subjects of the creator

25 May at 04:40

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Jaba WS

So your doing is not creation? Please answer how do you want to deceive senses without words?

25 May at 04:40

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

I am unable to create anything without the will of the creator! With the intalect granted to me by him,
Furthermore the creator will test mankind, and grant a man the power to deceive the senses

25 May at 04:47

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Jaba WS

Ok i see ... this is not the case for me ... i just can create anything i want anytime. But can you please tell me how you want to deceive the senses without any word?

25 May at 04:49

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

I am not wanting to deceive any one!!! But the creator will send the antichrist dajjal saytan

25 May at 04:51

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Jaba WS

And how they will deceive the senses?

25 May at 04:52

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Jaba WS

Ali?

25 May at 05:16

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

He will cut a man in half and bring him back to life

25 May at 05:22

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

Just I example

25 May at 05:23

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Jaba WS

This is how they will deceive our senses?

25 May at 05:23

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Blu Skys Intexas

in my grans bible I read et thye age of 6/7 I read/red that thye creator said/sed we were al his children so if so than we would al haf thye dna from god an they say the ole seein eye is of thye devil but we al are born with one so does this mean we r god an devil if so I haf to choice god an creation coz I can manifest rain an haf manifested other things it is realy cool

25 May at 06:37

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Jaba WS

is for you the bible a proof for god/creator?

25 May at 06:39

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

We are the supreme creation, but yet from the seed of Adam, with the knowledge of good and evil within us, the massiah on the other hand was created just as Adam with the word " be" and theeeefore free from sin, yet another will come an proclaim tobe the anointed 1, massiah, king, director of nwo etc

25 May at 06:42

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Jaba WS

but how do you know of adam existence?

25 May at 06:44

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

Well we certainly did not evolve from monkeys and apes, or it would just be a jungle or animal farm!!

25 May at 06:44

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Jaba WS

ok so you take the book as granted because we could not come from monkey .. therefor the writings are the truth?

25 May at 06:45

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

Faith

25 May at 06:45

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Jaba WS

Is faith truth?

25 May at 06:45

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

And over 124,000 messengers sent for different tribes and nations,

25 May at 06:45

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

But yet still saytan misguide them all!!

25 May at 06:46

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Jaba WS

This does not answer the question if fait is truth or a believe!

25 May at 06:46

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

The truth will be granted after we wake up from this dream!!!

25 May at 06:47

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Jaba WS

Ok so if im one of this 124,000 messenger and i tell you that is wrong what you think do you have fait in what i say?

25 May at 06:47

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Jaba WS

how do you know if one is a prophet or not?

25 May at 06:48

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Anja Vis

why do you need profets? be clear-minded yourself and voila, you are to be a profet

25 May at 07:00

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Deanna Klastow

@ Arthur ~ I am unique and individual and I do appreciate all of the information given freely by you and your family but I do find it very disheartening that people who are working to break the system, no matter how they do it, are throwing jabs at each other and not helping each other. I know we are all different and all at different stages of our development and I appreciate all beings who are working for freedom whether I agree with them or not. I believe one little ripple will cause the wave. No I am not asleep. I am not under delusion and while I appreciate your comment I do not agree with it. Your comments to Kate Rene were started by the fact that you felt she was using your material and you wanted a pat on the back for it and when you didn't get it you acted like a child throwing a temper tantrum which to me represents the issues we are currently experiencing at the present time. Me Me Me. Please do not get offended but listen and realize how you are coming across to other people. Being full of EGO does nothing to help us in our walk to break the system and free the earth and all its inhabitants. I do not sit around thinking because I believe it will come true nor do I look for pats on the back for information I am freely sharing. You have been defending your point for quite a while now and in the process threw some horrid jabs at the identity of Kate. Her sexual identity does not harm you in anyway and is not intended to. It is not for you or I to judge that it is her decision and hers alone. This is what I see true freedom as, allowing everyone the right to choose who they are without interference as long as that choice doesn't impose upon someone elses. I Love You for All You Have Given and I Am Grateful~ Namaste~

25 May at 07:15

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Leticia Delgadillo

ALL the Books Written by "MAN" are "MAN" made tales conjured within the Brain of "MAN" to create a Mythos, a Dream that has Absolutely "NOTHING" to do with reality.....The reality of Earth. A System, Mythology of a One sided tale called HIS-story, again Written and In-spired. Breathed into by "MEN"......"Patri-Ruled" Patriarchy ! We do Not need to be RULED by an Imagined ,Made UP, Male created god made in the Image of Mans INSANITY that does not exist in the First Place! WE do not need "MANS" codes, rules, laws!!! The EARTH is Truth and Reality......

25 May at 07:30

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Leticia Delgadillo

Profits-Prophets are conjured up bullshit from MAN! These MALE MIND Structures are being Dismantled and Exposed by Persons like Jaba!

25 May at 07:32

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Jeanice Barcelo

Deanna Klastow - You know, I am truly puzzled how, after reading what Arthur Cristian has written, you would say he is full of ego. This just boggles my mind as he has not asked Kate not to use his words -- but only to make sure that there is a distinction made between what Arthur is promoting and what Kate is promoting -- and also some freaking credit given where credit is due. This is a standard professional thing to do, and yet here you are, spewing out nonsense, talking about how Arthur is coming across to other people. Well my dear, you are not coming across as too swift yourself. And this has zero to do with Arthur asking for pats on the back and everything to do with INTEGRITY!!!! Very rarely have I listened to a person with a bigger ego than Kate Rene. This is not to say that he/she is not brilliant or helping people to wake up. But it is to say that Kate is so unbelievably volatile when someone even slightly questions his thoughts or words -- and this volatility is a sure sign of a huge ego. Kate has burned so many bridges with people who once supported him -- people who were once extremely close to him and those not so close, like myself. These fires were lit solely as a result of Kate's ego. And it boggles my mind that Kate thinks it is absolutely fine to use the EXACT words of Arthur and the Love for Life work without acknowledging their author or their origin. I guess Kate needs to pump up his own sense of importance by stealing other people's words and ideas and promoting them as his own. Otherwise, why would he be so deceiving and thieving? Sorry, but I have no tolerance for people who plagiarize other people's work. And I am completely baffled by your comment. It makes no sense.

25 May at 07:36

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Leticia Delgadillo

The Dream you speak of that YOU need to wake Up from is this In=organic WEB of Lies Spinned By MAD men from Looooooog ago that has Nothing to do with the Earth and HER creations! That's What you need to Wake Up from! Written Documents that are as good as Toilet Paper....Who authored them....? MEN, EVIL MEN!!!! Only EVIL has come from THEM!!!!!

25 May at 07:36

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Rhokeheart Burkett

Wow, way to talk down to an individual! So when someone States a point you try to discredit it by saying it is composed of "buzz words. " and then formulate your own sequence of "buzz words" and claim your "buzz words" discredit theirs, it is quite a obvious attempt to start a conflict. Divide and conquer rite Arthur?

25 May at 07:59

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Leticia Delgadillo

My comments are directed to Ali....

25 May at 07:37

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Deanna Klastow

@ Jeanice since this is such a hot topic PLEASE outline what work Kate Rene has taken from Arthur PLEASE Lets have clarification.

25 May at 07:39

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Rhokeheart Burkett

I say this is coming from ego because you are seeking recognition and credit where you did nothing and basing it on assumptions.

25 May at 07:44

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Deanna Klastow

Hello

25 May at 07:51

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Deanna Klastow

Its funny everyone has an opinion but no one has clear evidence of anything being taken from Arthur and after all the swords/words have been thrown around still no evidence is presented~

25 May at 08:15

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Jeanice Barcelo


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=820917647937569&set=a.1713649462...

After watching all those horror films!
you still answer the call of the Necromancer.
by: Shaun Hamer

25 May at 08:17

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Jeanice Barcelo

Deanna Klastow - please see my last post

25 May at 08:17

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Deanna Klastow

I Like the Post Jeanice but I still ask what material did Kate take of Arthurs?

25 May at 08:40

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Deanna Klastow

This information has been going around and Arthur was not the first to discover hence not his material~ I guess you must label and determine boundaries hence feeding the system your so opposed to ~ Very Sad to See So Much Stones Being Thrown ~

25 May at 08:41

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Deanna Klastow

If you want to give credit where credit is due the credit goes to the system who created the game ~ If I figure out how to win the chess game does it mean I created it?

25 May at 08:45

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

Lol the truth is within you, if u can have total recall??

25 May at 09:10

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Ali Ali Mahmoud

Lol

Lucuferian trust

Kate is a cunt and a dick at the same time lol

Even loosing the systems name!!! System will try to enslave,

Forgive it as it not know what it do

But alt least tell it fuck you!!!!

25 May at 09:31

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Deanna Klastow

Falun Gong is a qigong discipline combining slow-moving exercises and meditation with a moral philosophy centered on the tenets of truth (or truthfulness), compassion and tolerance. It was founded by Li Hongzhi, who introduced it to the public in May 1992 in Changchun, Jilin.[4] Following a period of meteoric growth in the 1990s, the Communist Party launched a campaign to "eradicate" Falun Gong on 20 July 1999.

25 May at 09:54

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Deanna Klastow

Here goes some food for thought~ Why is the Chinese Government afraid of Falun Gong?

Falun Gong (also known as Falun Dafa) is a spiritual discipline from China. It was founded by Li Hongzhi in 1992.[1] People who follow Falun Gong do five exercises and read books written by Li Hongzhi. They believe in "Truthfulness, Compassion and Forbearance", and they also believe that the Falun Gong exercises can make them healthy, and better people. There were almost 70 million Falun Gong practitioners in China, according to the Chinese government.

In 1999, after a big Falun Gong gathering in front of a Chinese government building, the Communist Party of China said: people cannot practice Falun Gong, it is "illegal".[2] The police started arresting Falun Gong followers, and according to human rights organizations, over 3000 people have been jailed and tortured to death.[3] The Chinese government claimed that Falun Gong spread superstitions, while other suggest that Falun Gong's popularity challenges the rule of the Chinese Communist Party.[4] Many people and organizations outside of China has called for the Chinese government to stop jailing and killing Falun Gong people.[5][6][7]

25 May at 09:57

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Deanna Klastow

Can We Get It Together

25 May at 09:58

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Deanna Klastow

What is Falun Gong? | China Uncensored
What is Falun Gong, or Falun Dafa as it's also known?
And why is Falun Gong being persecuted in China? On this episode of China Uncensored, I'll answer these...

25 May at 10:02

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Deanna Klastow

New David Icke Interview, Non Human Entities Enslave Us, But Creativity Can Free Us!
Vinny Eastwood Show - Mid/Late May 2014

25 May at 10:27

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Deanna Klastow

Oh the Horrors of the Multitude actually Uniting and Respecting the Differences

25 May at 10:28

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Jeanice Barcelo

Deanna Klastow - do you see the picture with all those words on it? Those are Arthur Cristian's words -- and yet those words are not attributed to Arthur. What the hell does Falun Gong have to do with any of this and why are you wasting space on this thread, totally taking it off-topic? What is your real agenda?

25 May at 10:28

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Deanna Klastow

Actually give me a date on Arthur's words and I will find you the same words attributed to someone else at an earlier time. We are in the condition we are in because someone wants credit~ You know many tribal people take credit for nothing and when someone wants or needs they don't sit there and cry you cant have it its mine they give it freely~ I have no agenda I just want the wave of consciousness towards total freedom to continue and not be disrupted by divide and conquer ideals.

25 May at 10:30

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Deanna Klastow

Namaste

25 May at 10:33

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Arthur Cristian

Deanna, where have we made comments about Kate's sexual identity?

Presumably you mean the comment "coupled with the image Kate presents".

Now this is your assumption that we are talking about his sexual identity whereas we are addressing the foul mouthed aggressive manner in which Kate presents himself. Now he can behave however he chooses, but this, together with the fact that he makes no attempt to give full disclosure about his sources, has nothing to do with a do no harm remedy full of the virtues of love.

Since Dec 2006, in the 11,000 + individual videos, documents, articles, pdf's, podcasts, etc, found amongst the 8500+ posts in the Love For Life website, we always say where the information comes from, unless we cannot find out.

Most other people do this.

WHY IS THIS SO IMPORTANT?

To avoid slander, misappropriation, defamation, etc, and fraud which is all about the theft of someones character to impersonate that character so they can add their "own" slant to the body of this stolen work and in doing so corrupt the character of another which occurs when one makes out claims and promotes intentions that never came from the original writer whose work was hijacked. This is what Kate is doing.

Why should Kate and those of you protecting him mind so much because we ask to be acknowledged, just as we acknowledge other people. As Jeanice said, why doesn't he use our work but make it clear what is our work and his work and the difference between to two?

This is ALL WE ASK.

Since we started Love For Life March 2005 we have dealt with many, many hundreds of strong good hearted men and women who have stood up to "The System" of lies and liars on many fronts and ALL OF THEM refer any of their work to whoever and wherever it came from. Mainstream media generally does this too because they do not want to go to court over slander, defamation, misappropriation, etc, and profiting from other peoples work.

We do not "own" our work but we will protect it when necessary. This is such an occasion. The point is, people with good hearts refuse to do harm to others.

Any studious researcher will find ALL the evidence of all the work we've been putting up since 2005/2006 that backs everything we are saying about Kate.

Here is a video we put up in Feb 2012 which is the first video about the "name" being the mark of the beast, etc, etc..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdOag66v7uo

This research work was first started 2005/2006 and we originally talked about "word-stories" which evolved into "name" as we honed our insights and research. Here is a flier page we put up Dec 2006 and updated it a few times until 2007: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/20

Here is a link to many articles we wrote - scroll down to find posts going back to 2007 http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385

Here is another video of a 2009 interview: Part One: http://youtu.be/yg7sbVyqUcw - Part Two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2RjiJaA_rA

Another video of a podcast 2nd April 2009: Part One: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km6SDH70AFA Part Two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwsZp3vj790

Vinny Eastwood Interview Oct 2010: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phP2fPXgsJ8

Using our lives as Guinea pigs since 2008 to test the State Debt Recovery Office: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6319

All our law work going back to 2005: http://loveforlife.com.au/cat.../main/law-articles-documents

All the Freeman/Sovereignty info we were putting up since 2005: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/895

2005 onwards court case documents: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5

Sequential Order of insights shared through articles, debates and videos/podcasts: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514 scroll down to find them.

There is also a series of Podcasts with Giorgio Repeti put up early mid 2009: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8212

Interesting that Kate wrote to us a few times early mid 2012 thanking us for all the work we've been doing, sharing the common story of family home stolen, and telling us how he had been diving into this Love For Life work for around three years. These posts are still on the Facebook wall, that's unless Kate has deleted them all. We just checked, everything to do with Kate has been completely wiped out EVERYTHING. Even PM's. WOWWWWW.

25 May at 14:14

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Arthur Cristian

All the background to "spells" and "spelling", to incantations behind the evocation of each alpha letter behind English, to maths & geometry being behind each letter, that each letter is hieroglyphics, that each letter has a meaning and has codes not educated to the masses, to con-structs, to con-cepts, to beLIEf, to the breaking down of the etymology, phonetics and cryptography of sounds, of the fact that we create water every-time we breathe out and how the water of our breath is used to encode/embed every thought/intention/feeling/etc we set into motion and how this is used by Satanists/Freemasons to control victims under their "spells" by creating demons of trauma they've crafted and can control through remote viewing, remote control and remote projection by causing reactions to trauma (reactions to the demons), etc, etc, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of these insights were posted by us including the explanations of the psyop programs behind them all go back to 2005/2006. It's all in the Love For Life website, go and do your homework.

25 May at 14:17

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Arthur Cristian

We've never made the claim that we "own" this work or that we want a pat on the back, etc. - These claims are bullshit.

25 May at 14:18

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Arthur Cristian

We filed documents in the Supreme Court in 2006 that had the judges flee that were the result of a man who has been studying the codes of the English language for 40 years as a layman and found many many clues in the biographies and dictionaries written in the 1800s, most of which have now been removed out of circulation. Due to agreements with him, we cannot make these documents free for all to see and do (many visitors have come to sight them), but we have used what he taught us and developed it in our unique original ways. Where else do you find this insight stuff, except in where the initiates of the high levels of Freemasonry are? Most of the insights we share are not to be found elsewhere. Prove it.

25 May at 14:20

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Arthur Cristian

And Deanna, we do put all our work out there for free and have always said that people are free to use it, but why not acknowledge where it comes from, especially if you are just going to copy great chunks of it. We always acknowledge other people's work, even if it is just a great FB comment that we add to a post. We could easily slip it in and pretend we thought of it but we always say, "As so and so said...". Why? Because we stand for transparency and full disclosure and integrity and respect.

25 May at 14:20

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Arthur Cristian

The greatest part of this body of insights is the clearly defined distinction between SENSE (light/consciousness/direct-experience/life) and NON-SENSE (darkness/unconsciousness/3rd party intervention/death/anti-life). This was a massive breakthrough that has impacted millions of lives and again we thank the elderly MAN who came into our lives late 2005 to help us with our court case. He was the stimulus that lead to these distinctions.

25 May at 14:26

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Arthur Cristian

Again, Deanna, it is not about getting a pat on the back or having egos that need placating. If you noticed, we wrote what we wrote to stop people getting hurt by getting into something they did not comprehend fully, including recognising the trauma that sets the performance of the system drone into motion. This is all part of the big picture that Kate and you are ignoring. Is there anyone who has done what Kate says who is not still in "The System"? Anyone who has just "stood firm in their invincibility" (to paraphrase) and is now living free of "The System? No one. Read the post again. As we said we have been on the receiving end of scores and scores of people who have lost everything and had their lives turned upside down as a result of following the ad-vice of freedom truthers.

25 May at 14:27

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Arthur Cristian

Much of the work of Kate came out of Love For Life and yet he never acknowledges us, promotes what we are doing or gives us air time. If he likes our work so much, why not invite us on his show? And now he is into the "name" - well, how long have we been writing about this? Our first video about it was in February 2012 and there wasn't anything else out there. We first started beating the State Debt Recovery Office 2008-2010 when we told them that Arthur was not the authorised representative or owner of the "name". and that they should take it up with the administrators of that "name". After 2 years of writing us letters, they stopped. That was it. Nothing more except the occasional form letter dangling a carrot trying to get Arthur to take the bait.

25 May at 14:29

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Arthur Cristian

Who else is talking about the curses and the reactions to trauma that need to be resolved if we are to be free of "The System? You can give up the "name" all you want but if you haven't let go of the trauma, you will still be a system slave because you will still be reliant on "The System". This is why we are strong on remedy and why we have worked out a step by step practical, every day remedy to let go of the trauma, let go of "The System" and co-create paradise again.

25 May at 14:30

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Robert Petrovski

Remedy or backup plan is key to every action. This is why when revolutions in society take place the higher powers still giggle as they seem to impose their own leader once again as society always seeks a savior. Our society has conditioned us to have a physical savior to remedy us after a revolution.

25 May at 15:05

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Robert Petrovski

Remember, the way to control the opposition is to lead it!

25 May at 15:06

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Arthur Cristian

Will they wake up Robert...... sigh.......

25 May at 15:10

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Robert Petrovski

The obvious answer is NO. People have been conditioned so well that intel is everywhere, including in my face everyday and sometimes it's difficult to disseminate it unless someone by chance points it out. I do know however, that LOVE expressions are key in my day to day life and that too has become a challenge when so many people are so cold and heartless.

25 May at 15:12

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Robert Petrovski

I'm dependent on the mark of the beast even today and the path out of this is one that brings many problems with family and friends.

25 May at 15:15

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Arthur Cristian

A major part of the plan that brings in the NWO is to incite violence leading to revolution. This is what the Satanic/Freemasonic world WANTS - We promote the opposite - a peaceful do no harm turning away from "The System" where millions of us give up self-centeredness to serve each other in the co-creation of living paradise = Kindom. We know that you live for this too - We need to start getting more serious and committed to co-creating a living paradise in present-sense that sets a precedence, a do no harm example to break the back of the NWO operatives. People need to see/sense how to live without "The System".

25 May at 15:16

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Robert Petrovski

The heart of many people is growing tired of the old rhetoric and revolutions seem to be the expression. I can only imagine that more revolutions and havoc will be played out by society over the next 20 or so years which will bring light of a new paradigm, namely controlled once again by the NWO if we don't find a remedy soon!

25 May at 15:20

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Grant Robinson

I don't usually have to deal with people very much but the last few days have had an in your face experience of what normals are like and considering the tiny time frame this species has to get things right before all is lost I think we are doomed.
Beautiful souls with loving hearts, expressing learned violence, institutionalized stupidity, proud ignorance, casual hypocrisy, shallow belligerent egos buttressed by a foul culture and they are sweethearts who don't even know they are asleep let alone knowing they are in mortal danger.
The nefarious shadow dwellers have done an astonishingly good job, convincing their prisoners to fight for their right to be incarcerated, just flabbergasted,
Therefore tomorrow i shall plant another plant, tell the dragonfly i love it as my brother and listen to the lament of the breeze through the yellow box and spotted gum.

25 May at 21:31

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Deanna Klastow

@Arthur~ I acknowledge and am Grateful for all of your work but I must say in my own experience, I have always stood my ground, papers filed or not, and I realized a long time ago that it is your will that is the ultimate decision maker whether papers are in place or not. I don't necessarily agree one hundred percent with anyones work but I do respect everyones right and I do appreciate that Kate has awoken and started the same process for many to find their path. We do need to work together in co-creation and we need to stop worrying about imaginary lines of who's information is who's. Think about it Arthur, have you ever heard of the hundredth monkey? and if you did do you think the first monkey that learned to peel the sweet potato was angry for not getting credit for it? We shouldn't be doing or living to be acknowledged but rather to learn grow and experience. We need to get back to our tribal space. Look at tribal communities and see who gets credit for what? There is a ripple that has begun and is becoming a wave and soon a tsunami~ If we begin pointing fingers and saying who is right and wrong even though we are all going in the same direction~ Who Wins? I Am Grateful For All You Have Done and I began involving myself in the conversation because I can see that many people who want freedom are imposing borders whether mental or physical. I am seeing people who say that want love and community throwing stones at each other. Do you have all of the answers Arthur or claim to have all of the answers? We need to realize that life is ever changing and we must recognize that we are all different and give each other space to be that. Kate may not have felt a need to mention you because her intention was to wake people up not give you applause. I believe we are winning this battle and I don't want to see it die off and be swept under the rug because we cannot get it together and realize everyone has something to add. You say that these are your words but you admitted yourself that you got it from another. This is called communication whether written or verbal and there are no intellectual property rights on that. Please Arthur look at Tribal communities again who do live in harmony with nature and have never had to file anything to maintain their natural, harmonious lives. I See the Love and Passion You and Your Wife have, I fully understand how it feels when your young and your Mom is not there because she has to work. I am not against you. We need to realize that we are all riding the same wave and it doesn't matter what we are riding on as long as we arrive at the same outcome. I Love You for Everything You Have Done and I Am Grateful. I appreciate you communicating with me so we can both come to an understanding of Truth.

25 May at 22:11

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Arthur Cristian

Deanna, we just posted this on the Facebook Wall.

Revolution Or Revolution
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life - 25th May 2014
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8520

At the heart of all the work we have been putting '"out there" on the net since 2005 has always been about returning to our tribal routes. This determination is a massive driving force behind ALL of our Love For Life work and is found consistently through most of our articles, videos, debates, discussions, podcasts, etc.

We get it that we have a lot in common.

The obvious difference here is that we use the "English Language" to communicate our intentions clearly, word by word, without vaguery or miscomprehension, words communicating the meaning explained in the Oxford Dictionary. If you learn to read exactly what is written before you, you might come to sense our true intentions, sense who we really are and sense where we are really coming from.

There is no need to add meanings that are not found in our writings, meanings that become claims made up out of thin air, all of it rooted in make-believe.

If you go back and read our original thread here and then see/witness what you have added as "your" meaning to our work, you can see why people like Jeanice have come forward to correct you, to clear the way forward in your comprehension of our intentions.

The claims you have made about us are not "our" claims, they were not our intentions, not our creations, not our thoughts, feelings and dreams coming from our lives. You are both re-presenting the life of the man Kate and re-presenting the lives of Arthur & Fiona Cristian. At no "time" was Kate, Arthur & Fiona present to your performance of us.

What you have actually done here is attempt to kidnap all our characters so that you can impersonate us here in this thread to set up the "storytelling" performance of all of us, of your making, IN YOUR IMAGE.

It is clear that you are NOT the first parties Kate or Arthur or Fiona, yet you are clearly making it out that what you, a 3rd party, say's is actually coming from our intentions, from our thoughts, feelings and dreams, that all these added meanings you introduced into our writings has all come from us.

This is blatant fraud and is lying Deeana.

All the reasons why we dissociated our work and our lives from Kate's work and Kate's life is CLEARLY explained in our original thread, ALL OF IT. There was nothing more to say because it was all said, all written with pure and sincere intentions - we provided FULL-DISCLOSURE so that there was no misunderstandings going on.

We point this out so that you might learn from this as we learnt from this over the years and rout it out of our waking life habits. If Kate wants to sort things out then Kate needs to get in contact with us to sort it out. We refuse to re-present Kate as we refuse to let anyone re-present us.

And yes, we attune with everything beautiful and inspiring in your last post. Thanks - We look forward to getting to know you and learning about your dreams for the co-creation of the dream of life.

26 May at 01:07

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Blu Skys Intexas

the only saver ur goin to find is not in the system it is not on any paper work this is what Kate a dresses on an the legal name( mark of beast) an the number of the beast is 666 it is the number of a man.

26 May at 01:13

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Arthur Cristian

Where do you think Kate got all this information from??? You have just written out the work we put out over and over and over again on the net going back many years.

26 May at 01:15

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Arthur Cristian

BUT what Kate and you are addressing is ONLY HALF of the remedy - Kate left the other half out.... WHY????

26 May at 01:16

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Blu Skys Intexas

I did not get that from Kate I al ways known this I read mi script urs when I wuz about 6/7 befor any one could realy corrupt mi mind Kate has gotten some information from me an knew exactly what I wuz saing when everyone else dismisses it an she says it al thye time listen wit ur eyes and see with ur ears as long as ppl stay in the literal (current state of mind) will not see/hear this It is as simple as Kate says lose the name and yet it will be the hardest thin for ppl to do until they know who they are and I got a lot of love for those ppl coz it is a narrow path and thin she says win the game we al made a contract with our creator befor commin here to play the game so get in the game scriptures say finesh ur first works ask ur wife what kinda of games did she and her friends play or the little nursery rymes when they were youngsters/yung stars Kate an I didn't leave anythin out this is something that man needs to leave out of his beleifs.I sent u and ur wife a post a few months ago about a summons and ask what u thot about what i rote on the back u rote back an told me that I first must get mi house in order I have no hard feelins towards any one but mi house is in order I have been ready to go home for a long time mi house is here and it is called Aquarious everyone needs to pull it together because this is a war between good and evil and the grand prize is our soul

26 May at 04:50

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Naturr Boii

dropping the 'name' and running away is not remedy
and neither are these stories

26 May at 06:39

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Arthur Cristian

@ Blu Skys Intexas - The demonic world operates as apparitions that are demons projected, performed and controlled by Satanists through remote projection, remote viewing & remote control = marionettes pulled at the strings by master puppeteers.

There are numerous methods used to attack victims with, this includes but not limited to the sounds of English & other read and write alphabet languages, images coming out of Hollywood, TV, Videos, Movies, Internet, Advertising, Media, etc, etc, and processed foods/liquids (nature) containing dead MAN placentas, abortioned babies, tortured-ritualised men, women, children and animals found in over 20,000 processed food/liquid products, chemtrails, chemicalised/fluoridated/chlorinated water, vaccinations, etc, etc.

Satanists have many, many, mediums being used for these ethereal/aethereal "psychic" attacks and it is a vast pantomime being carried out in the water of MANS (our) breath (collective-consciousness) since this non-sense began "long-ago".

There is NO such natural-living-sensory-life-forms as "Aquarius", "mind", "contract with our creator", "before coming here", "play the game", "game scriptures", "war between good and evil", "summons", "time", etc...... These are all part of the demonic props of a "fantasy game" being performed between your ears that has sucked you in through belief, faith and associated opinion, all deeply rooted in trauma/reactions-to-trauma since whenever you claimed these demons as being part of the reality of the life of the fallen-MAN you are presently co-creating.

You are being seriously deceived BIG-TIME.

Trauma and reactions to trauma has got you hooked, line and sinker to the master puppeteers who are messing terribly with your real-life.

Can you please bring forward all these images as sensory-living first parties without you having to perform on behalf of them as a third party so that the living can have a direct sensory first party to first party experience with them?

If you can't do this in PRESENT-SENSE, then all you've got is this "psychic attack" being played out between your ears which is making a terrible mess of your real-life as MAN. = you have been misled by all the perpetrators of this LIE = "The System".

The fact is YOU ARE ALREADY HOME where all our ancestors and descendants have always been. Those who remembered who they really are and what they are really part of are already amongst the living in present-sense as living creators/co-creators of the dream of life.

There is NO journey to and from anywhere to anywhere because we already are where we have always been. Only the conflict of fantasies, illusions & delusions bouncing to and fro between your ears of these "psychic attacks" is giving you the impression that these demonic apparitions "exist".

When you completely stop giving these demons your life-force-energy as listed above (stop eating/drinking processed foods/liquids, etc, given up drugs, alcohol, eating meat & dairy products) and you are strong enough with your free-will determination to be clear of these man-made-entities/thought-forms. these demons will fade away from your dreaming - they will no longer play a part in the dreaming of the creation of the MAN you are creating in present-sense.

"Time", "space", "after-life-destination" con-cepts/con-structs are all props in the Satanic Grand Architects glorious holy scheme.of MANS fall into committing spiritual suicide.

We have just provided you with some very clear clues as to who Kate really is and who Kate is really working for. Things are not what they seem. The greatest lie and liar is the one closest to the truth, they cause the greatest damage of all.

In the middle of the word belief is the word lie and in the middle of the word lie is "i" and "i" (demons in/of "name") is the greatest lie and liar of all. "i" is the "all-seeing eye" - the victims all-see the demons being part of truth/reality/nature/creation/etc, being part of their real-lives, but this is a lie.

All demons are reflections in the mirror of "i", who you presently believe you are. They are the echoes of non-sensory images that are the apparitions con-ceived by Satanists bouncing to and fro between your ears and while you worship these demons they are the "illuminated light" of your making, of your all-seeing-eye, to glorify their grand deception, holy scriptures being at the heart of this grand deception. You are "right", the grand prize is your "soul" - they already got it!

26 May at 10:10

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Kenneth Jeffrey Slem

My baby and I have Eternity ahead of us and if you live with the stupid then you live with the dead.

26 May at 09:56

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Max Igan

Lol... I have to comment here, just this once, its way too tempting not to, simply because this post of Arthur's - made to 'dissaccociate' himself from a work he is not associated with to begin with - is a perfect example of the subtle programming Arthur Cristian constantly employs, and stands as a great example of a spell master at work. The point being this:

Arthur is in no way associated with kate of gaia's work anyway. He just isn't. We have all been talking about name fraud for years. Many, many people have been doing so for many, many years. Even I have been saying for years that you are not the name, the name is just ink spots on a piece of paper. You will likely find radio shows where I mentioned it back in 2009 when I first began broadcasting on air before I had ever heard of Arthur. What Kate has done, is find the way, the simple steps that can be used to navigate out of corporate jurisdiction, and is offering to the world, nothing more. The work is not based on Arthurs work in any way, shape or form. Arthur however, by posting an article to 'disassociate' himself from a work to which he holds no claim, has received no mention, and is already not associated with in any way, is actually actively working to associate himself with the work, claim it as his own intellectual property and attempt use it as an mechanism with which to steer people away from confronting the system and convince them to join his commune. He does this, quite literally, ALL the time with anyone whose work he feels he may be able to manipulate to further his cause. Arthur is terrified of the people uniting for any cause that is not his own and, if you read his posts - not that anyone really can, because each is a self aggrandizing, mind numbing diatribe that he uses to harvest the energy and time it takes to read and decipher his psychobabble - you find it is full of subtle programming and written in such a manner as to confound the reader with logical fallacies and kind of numb one into an almost trance state where you are open to his programming, the spells he is attempting to weave and the NLP he includes in his lengthy diatribes. In typical narcissistic fashion, you will also notice that every link he posts as any reference to his claims, also refers ONLY to his own work, as he constantly uses his own previous claims as proof to back up any new claims he makes. Unfortunately Arthur is highly delusional and is running very deep Vatican programming, hence his constant references to satanism and his claim that the name is the 'mark of the beast'. His main goal in life appears to be self promotion coupled with relentless and tireless attempts at spreading distrust, disunity, division, misinformation, outright lies and fabrications. And he does this without a shred of remorse or consideration for those he hurts along the way... He does not ever attempt to converse with the people he makes his accusations about in order to at least research the matter. As a point of reference., he began secretly spreading disinformation and lies about me, completely behind my back, in news letters and private emails without ever once discussing things with me at all, long before I ever confronted him about it, so I know his M.O. very well. And he always, always uses his attacks on others as a mechanism for self promotion. This is pure and very obvious sociopathy...

The fact is that all researchers have their own view, depending upon what information they have been able to assimilate, and some are more awake than others. Some attempt to start movements because they believe they have it figured out, sometimes they may have, some still have a lot to lean, but many know something has to change and so they do what they can, what feels right to them, in order to help awaken others. You see the reality is that we are all here together and everyone holds a piece of the puzzle regardless of their level of knowledge...

Respect and dialogue is what is needed. All egos aside, lets put it all on the table and see what we can make work... So... Be very, very careful of people like Arthur Cristian and ask yourself the question as to why on earth he would spend so very, very much of his time attacking other researchers - people whom he does not know, has never met, never spoken to, never looked into their eyes. Arthur Cristian has perhaps done more to promote distrust, disinformation, disunity, confusion and outright lies than almost any other single person I have come across, except perhaps Ben Fullford - though Fullford is nowhere near as subtly deceptive as Arthur, nor does he appear to be actively seeking to program his followers the way Arthur does.

Look into your heart folks because that is where you will find all the truth you need.

For my part, Well, Im thinking of driving down to Bowral and knocking on his front door so he can make his false accusations to my face. He began posting lies about Mark McMurtrie and that's what Mark did... Arthur ran off with his tail between his legs and never attacked him again. I may just do the same thing... I could do with a drive and it would be kinda fun

My apologies for the length of this post.

Over and out

26 May at 12:14

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Naturr Boii

And all stories change with perception.
Max, hope you do drive out. Have wanted to travel to see the family for a while. Truthfully, with different intent than mentioned by you...but no less, sense is often over looked online, and feel coming together to better grasp each other is often needed.

26 May at 13:51

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Arthur Cristian

Max, in context to the way "name" is used as we have clearly explained in the body of the Love For Life work, there was nothing out there anywhere. We know that because between March 2005 and mid 2007 we were heavily involved with many hundreds of awe-inspiring good hearted men and women working on the front line of exposing the corruption in the courts, etc, in the USA, Canada, UK, NZ, Australia, & elsewhere. Many of these people still remain in contact with us and are friends. They all know who they are and most of their work is found in the Love For Life website.

If the "name" was realised in the light of the work we exposed then we would have learnt all about it between March 2005 and mid 2007 from any of the many hundreds of freedom-truthers, constitutional, common law, citizen, etc, etc, fighters/exposers, etc, etc, many who had been at this work for up to twenty years before we came along.

There was nothing out there. If it was out there we would have been using the material for our court cases.

Please bring forward documented factual information that has been filed in court prior March 2005 that reflects the information we started bringing out for all to see - we would love to sight such documents.

What we did was show that "name" is the mark (contract) of/to the beast and using "name" already has you be the right party.

This has nothing to do with the strawman, person, agent-in-commerce info because the duality of name with or without caps being argued over was a blatant LIE - a yellow brick road for the duped to go down.

The fact was ---------- ANYTHING to do with NAME already is the contract, regardless whether "name" in caps or no caps or a mixture of both or whether it comes with titles or not, middle names or not, etc, etc....

A massive difference here.

This is why Arthur dropped all contracts with "name" and started beating them.

Bring forward the evidence to back your claims Max.

Max, almost everything you have written is a load of bullshit. You have made all this up because you have nothing of FACT to back your claims with. All you've got to offer is character assassinations which clearly reveals what you are all about. Many are waking up to see through your Intel Psyop Program.

Refer to the post we put up about you and Mark Darwin and answer the questions. https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203677889935853

A simple yes or no will do.

You see with us, we welcome you coming after us as much as you want because not only do you come out in the open for all to see, you also only leave a trail of doubt behind you because you don't provide any factual evidence to back your claims, NOTHING.

This is a clear INTEL trademark.

Many are noticing the real Max Igan wolf coming out from behind the front of the "nice sheep" persona. No matter what you do you are destroying your "front" and are being exposed for all to see.

All lies are curses and all liars are processing curses.

If you are so confident in what you say, why not have a 3 hour live debate with us, with no interruptions, and be recorded for uploading to YouTube etc, for all to see? How about that Max?

As for the first party Kate, he is most welcome to talk with us first parties and sort everything out between us. Thus far, it appears he is not capable of this. We are not interested in dealing with 3rd party impostors of Kate and Arthur & Fiona Cristian.

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Arthur Cristian

This is a conversation with people that we claim are INTEL agents, Mark Darwin of Truthology and Max Igan. It all started because we asked Ivana https://www.facebook.com/ivana.dirlicsindija/posts/10152427160663469 why she was taking our posts down from her Facebook Wall when the information we are putting up is to help people wake up to how they are being manipulated. This is what Ivana says she lives/stands for too. We also said that Mark Darwin and Max Igan were INTEL BIG-TIME, implying, why is she protecting them by taking down posts that rout them out. Ivana posted this (above link): To my Perth friends! Don't miss this opportunity...Freedom Summit is going on tonight in your neighborhood....And they are offering free tickets!!! Lucky you guys I went to see it here in Sydney and it was a brilliant event. There are some amazing speakers to be there ......Don't miss it!

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Ivana replied:

Max Igan is not intel......neither is Mark Darwin. You got that wrong, BIGTIME Arthur/Fiona! Bigtime! By the way, I don't like when people sharing their stuff on my wall as a separate posts.....if there is something you want to say related to specific thread feel free and post it under that thread, but pls don't use my wall to promote your messages....it's not cool. Ta

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Mark Darwin replied:

Yes Arthur, I am intell and so is Max...... Mate you discredit yourself BIGTIME with such rubbish posts. Heal mate....

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We replied with these posts.............

In reference to this video posted here: https://www.facebook.com/jeanice.barcelo/posts/10203671779503096,

Jeanice Barcello wrote today asking: Arthur Cristian - can you share more of your thoughts about the metal bowls? Do you feel the same about crystal bowls?

Hi Jeanice, everything of nature/earth/life, all sensory-life-forms, inanimate or not, has an ORIGINAL purpose for the dream of life - they exist where they are for that purpose. All we need to do is attune with them for them to reveal their true purpose with each of us.

This is very different to having your head spinning with stories about crystals, crystal healings, metal bowl resonances, etc, etc, not coming from these sensory-life-forms, BUT coming from impostors who hijacked the natural characters (information) of sensory-life-forms so they can impersonate them, to act as the 3rd party storytellers of information about the crystals that has not come directly from the crystals, etc, and making out that it does. The fact is this is a lie, they are lying, they made it all up and are the blind-spots making a terrible mess of our real lives.

Just as every grain of sand is unique/original, so is every crystal, so is every MAN. So how can we say that "quartz crystals do this and are good for that" when by doing so we are lumping all quartz crystals in one basket and all of MAN in one basket. Every time someone puts something in our head and we superimpose it on life, we are creating a blind spot because we are not communicating directly with the life form. This is how we form "The System".

This blind spot is a demon controlling your thoughts, feelings (turned/twisted into e-motions) and actions. How many blind spots do we all have, as we struggle to reclaim who we really are?????? We just have to keep recognising them and letting go, recognising them and letting go, recognising them and letting go, and trying to remain humble because we can be sure that the area where we put our noses in the air and either refuse to acknowledge our blind spots or justify them, are the areas where we are most in the grip of the demons.

EVERYTHING of the dream of life is sacred - not just the crystal spots, or the pristine spots, or a "special" tree. Even the land we have scarred and carved is sacred, even if it doesn't seem so because of what we have done to it. All the carving and scarring is the blind spots telling us that it is ok to carve and scar, which is why it is carved and scarred. If we didn't have the story telling of cars, non-natural houses, mobile phones, ovens, etc, in our heads, we would never think to have mines, or to create roads, etc. Same with mining for crystals.

The uniqueness and originality of everything in its natural, original and unique "place" is what allies with our uniqueness and originality too. If we are brought up by pristine nature, we are able to tune into the uniqueness and originality about everything and the uniqueness and originality of everything brings out the uniqueness and originality of each of us, which resonates back with nature. We co-create nature with our unique and original thoughts and dreams and nature gives us access to the unique, original thoughts and dreams of all of MAN co-creating with nature. This allows us to be present to all of creation to create our uniqueness/originality which expands the unique original dream of life with the presence of our unique original lives.

Imagine being a young child in nature without any system thoughts and stories in our heads; we have the natural ability to access all the uniqueness and originality of every life form of nature right here and now, the WHOLE of it, in present sense because that information is who we really are, it is our consciousness. And there is no "journey", no "ritual", no "training", to get to the information - it is there in present sense at every moment. It is only when we get blind spots that we disconnect from consciousness in present sense, creating "time", distance and separation so that we are no longer conscious of the information of the dream of life. It is when we are no longer conscious that we are able to scar, carve and destroy, unable and unwilling to sense the harm we are causing. We no longer sense the original unique purpose of what we are destroying. Our heritage has become an abomination passed on to our progeny. We have forsaken vast "parts" of who we really are.

Everything of life, from the ocean beds to the highest mountains, to the forests, to all the celestial bodies, to everything deep beneath Earth, is the breeze of MANS consciousness blowing across Earth to ruffle our hair and caress our faces, it is the warm embracing sunlight of MANS unique and original truth raising each of us in the joy and celebration of our elation for being the unique and original MAN we all really are. It is constantly present.

Untampered by "system thought", the blind spots, we honour, protect, celebrate, rejoice, nurture, and expand the uniqueness of our ancestors as our children will honour and protect ours, as we protect theirs by protecting them from system thought, the blind-spots. But alas, this is not to be - we are all deeply bogged down with storytelling blind-spots that are demons leading us out front with almost everything we think feel and do for a whole life-"time", destroying the uniqueness and originality of all of life. We are now the scarred and carved remains of who we were meant to be, of MAN. And people want to buy crystals that have been carved from Earth and sit "feeling their power" and performing rituals with them. Are crystals powerful? Of course they are, but in our present dumbed down state, we have no idea how to connect with them or use them to aid in our co-creation.

And here we are, creating "freedom" movements, trying to create freedom and truth for each other, all the time we are continuing to scar, carve and destroy MAN/Earth/nature. We already are uniquely and originally free, we just have to live it, be it (be left alone untampered to be truly free), just as all the information we need of creation, of our creation, is available, if we would only sense it, if our heads hadn't been tampered with.

How do foundations/trust/money/commerce/movements of freedom, etc, create freedom? They are just image power blind spots and this is what the whole Freemasonic/Satanic Intel world is all about - capturing gullible people through their blind spots, through storytelling from third parties, which is what the freedom/truth movement and all the INTEL agents involved is all about, desecrating our fellow MAN. It is full of men and women acting as imposters of a freedom (the thought of freedom is not freedom) over other men and women by claiming that their story telling of a freedom is the story of freedom when this is a BLATANT LIE.

How can you re-present another MAN and have the MAN still be unique and original? You can't it is impossible.

The freedom/truther INTEL agents come as rescuers, saviours, messiahs, etc, just as the Knights Templars waded into the Crusades, and performed benevolent works. They rescued those under a deeply traumatised image power problem to put them into another deeply traumatised image power problem. Nothing changed. The trauma, the blind spots, never left them.

The sleight of hand cleverly crafts its deception.

Everything about the freemasonic/satanic world is about Kidnapping MAN and putting MAN under the image power of their stories, their blind spots.

Nothing has changed.

This is blatant black magic because they are forcing other men and women under their image power of a freedom of their standing, their storytelling of freedom that forces everyone under their standing of a freedom. There is no uniqueness and originality of MAN here. It is still all about the "name" of freedom and we are just imposters committing fraud. One freedom fits all - this is communism, socialism, dictatorship, the Cesar Empire, democracy, the reincarnation of Roman Catholic Church and the Church of England under the Start Trek Federation version of freedom, aka the New World Order.

Watch out for the rescuers who come to lead you out of the frying pan into the fire. Watch out for Sacha Stone with his HUMANITAD, NEW EARTH PROJECT (Ushering In A New Era Of Planetary Innovation And Leadership - lolllllll), watch out for Frank O'Collins with his UCADIA and ONE HEAVEN, watch out for THRIVE, ZEITGEIST, UBUNTU, OPPT, SWISSINDO, ONE EARTH this or that, NEW WORLD this or that, ONE CONSCIOUSNESS this or that, watch out for David Icke, Jordan Maxwell, Kevin Annett, Benjamin Fulford, Mark Passio, Santos Bonacci ASTROTHEOLOGY, etc, watch out for FREEDOM this or that movements, organisations, like Mark Darwin with his TRUTHOLOGY and FREEDOM SUMMITS, etc, as THEY ARE ALL Knights Templar (Freemasonic/Satanic) engineered Intel bullshit. They are all blind-spots for the duped to remain blind to who they really are and what they are really part of. They are ALL shepherds to the sheeple, the duped.

With all of these movements/shepherds, everything is in the "name". It is not naturally expressed and lived in/of the MAN. It is the "name" Zeitgeist, the "name" Ubuntu", the "name" OPPT, the "name" Freedom. These are all shadows/reflections bouncing to and fro between the victims ears and they are all the blind spots keeping victims under control and pliant.

There are multi millions of men, women and children suffering under "The System", the blind spots, now being got at with the very same methods that got them in this situation in the first place, under the guise of getting them out of "The System". They are being provided with another system ("NAME") of "freedom"!

We are all unique and original, not one the same as the next, so how can we be provided with the same, textbook freedom?

This is a lie, fraud.

This problem is appearing everywhere now - remedies full of mantras that sound as though they are offering just what we need but are in fact only offering conformity and more image power, the blind spots. Again, we are relying on others to provide us with Freedom through the "name" Freedom, rather than taking FULL-responsibility for our lives in present-sense. Best we are all left alone to recreate our real-lives uniquely.

To expand on these themes in greater detail please read this post http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8514 and follow the sequential order links provided to other Love For Life articles and videos which collectively provide the big-picture we see/sense, particularly these posts, listed below.

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At this link: https://www.facebook.com/kipper/posts/10203671756662525

Capri Adirim posted this comment:

Sacha Stone Beyond Time, Money & Fear - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKVT1p18-o4&feature=share
New Earth Founder Sacha Stone interviewed by CNW TV in Belgium. This short (graphically animated) interview outlines the New Earth vision and it's zero-point dimension. Please SHARE this widely and join the rising chorus of sovereignty and consciousness-in-action.

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We replied......

The World is "The System" - no such thing as "Old" Earth and "New" Earth - If we accept, honour, protect, nurture and celebrate uniqueness/originality of everything and don't interfere whatsoever then there is no "old" or :new" - just creation/co-creation of life from instant to instant of our every breath.

Some of the Humanitad members are Intel, people like Jerry Prus & John Walsh - He is revealing his part in the NWO ---- he says..... in reference to Chile "held in the protectorate in the "trust" outside the jurisdiction of any nation state under pure law".

WHAT A LOAD OF SPIN-DOCTORING BULLSHIT THIS. IS.... "UNDER PURE LAW".

What Pure Law?

Whose Pure Law?

And who were the legal-papers filed to/with?

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Capri Adirim replied

Arthur he said 'pure law' is individual law. We each choose individually. "Do no harm" imho should be universal.

Arthur, I am sure even within your own home their are 'rules' such as keep the toilet seat down, keep the music at a level that does not disrupt other members of the family that say are trying to sleep/nap etc. etc. Ones 'job/rule' may be that one takes out the garbage while the other does dishes etc. Unless we live completely autonomous (no other human beings around to interact/commune with) then in reality we can't really 'do as we please'.

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We replied................

And who is this lawful legal authority, based in pure law, with the power/force to protect this community?

Sounds like the Federation (NWO) of Star Trek coming together behind the scenes. Watch out..... anyone who believes this shit is being had, are being led down another yellow brick road.

And has faculties for "economics"!

And much of the infrastructure are dead corpse buildings requiring "The System" to build, maintain them etc..... The NWO is a cashless economy which AND he supports "Virtual Government" ----- UNDER UNIVERSAL LAW..... LOLLLLLLL etc, etc..... This is not a remedy whatsoever.

He also says "the mask is almost off and once that mask falls and the emperor is found to have no clothes standing behind the curtain the "world" is going to change very very quickly......"

Would love to have a discussion with him". He wrote to us a few years ago. He never answered the questions we raised with him back then.

This post is expanding on what we wrote to Jeanice Barcello as posted above:

They are BLIND SPOTS Capri...... there is no such thing as "individual law" and "universal", again this is "NAME" "individual law" and "NAME" "universal", implying "NAME" do no harm "uni-verse all law" and implying "NAME" "FREEDOM"

Remember the stuff we put up about phonetics: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203667898126064 (there are a few of the same post floating around, this is just one of them)

Universe = UNI - VERSE - ALL = brainwashing = blind spots.

Individual = In Divide U All = brainwashing = blind spots.

Uni = ONE = a combining form occurring in loanwords from Latin (universe ), used, with the meaning “one,” in the formation of compound words (unicycle ) - NOTICE THE WORD "LOAN-WORDS" MEANING NOT YOURS and CHOICE - THIS IS NOT FREEDOM.

Verse = metrical composition; poetry, especially as involving metrical form. a particular type of metrical line: a hexameter verse. a succession of metrical feet written, printed, or orally composed as one line; one of the lines of a poem. (not in technical use) a stanza. MEANING = CONTRIVED, MECHANICAL, PRE-DETERMINED = this is not freedom - this is CHOICE! You did not dream, invent and manufacture the car, you just learnt to drive and started driving it. Again, this is not freedom, this is choice.

All = the whole of (used in referring to quantity, extent, or duration): all the cake; all the way; all year. the whole number of (used in referring to individuals or particulars, taken collectively): all students. the greatest possible (used in referring to quality or degree): with all due respect; with all speed. every: all kinds; all sorts. any; any whatever: beyond all doubt. MEANING = ONE SHOE FITS ALL FOREVER = ONE SYSTEM (many system thoughts in one system = law - individual law, pure law, universal law and all other bullshit laws conjured up) - THIS IS ABSOLUTE - THIS IS ALL THE CHOICES YOU'VE GOT - THIS IS NOT FREEDOM!

Metrical = pertaining to meter or poetic measure. composed in meter or verse. pertaining to measurement. MEANING - RULES MADE UP BY SOMEONE ELSE - NOT YOU - Again, CHOICE - NOT FREEDOM!

Measurement = the act of measuring. a measured dimension. extent, size, etc., ascertained by measuring. a system of measuring or measures: liquid measurement. MEANING - THE ENCLOSURE - YOU CAN'T OPERATE/THINK OUTSIDE IT.

Unicycle = a vehicle with one wheel, especially a pedal-driven device kept upright and steered by body balance, commonly used by acrobats and other performers. - MEANING - YOU ONLY HAVE ONE OPTION = CHOICE - YOU ARE TRAPPED IN THE CYCLE OF THE UNI ---------- VERSE

In = (used to indicate inclusion within space, a place, or limits): walking in the park. (used to indicate inclusion within something abstract or immaterial): in politics; in the autumn. (used to indicate inclusion within or occurrence during a period or limit of time): in ancient times; a task done in ten minutes. (used to indicate limitation or qualification, as of situation, condition, relation, manner, action, etc.): to speak in a whisper; to be similar in appearance. (used to indicate means): sketched in ink; spoken in French. MEANING = Inside the enclosure, the word spells of "name" that imprison you, which all comes from education. You have had 20 years + experience of system thought to prepare you for the "name" words of Sacha, etc. Very few of us have original thoughts. This is all black magic in action, compelling you to perform under these word spells of "name".

Divid (in prescriptions) divide. In Latin, divid means divide

Divide = to separate into parts, groups, sections, etc. to separate or part from something else; sunder; cut off. to deal out in parts; distribute in shares; apportion. to cleave; part. to separate in opinion or feeling; cause to disagree: The issue divided the senators. MEANING = SEPARATION FROM DIRECT EXPERIENCE WITH NATURE = SEPARATION FROM WHO WE REALLY ARE AND WHAT WE ARE REALLY PART OF. Why else would you fight for the spells that Sacha is weaving? Blind spots keeping you blind to the "name" spells. All this is reaction to trauma.

U = You = the pronoun of the second person singular or plural, used of the person or persons being addressed, in the nominative or objective case: You are the highest bidder. It is you who are to blame. We can't help you. This package came for you. Did she give you the book? one; anyone; people in general: a tiny animal you can't even see. (used in apposition with the subject of a sentence, sometimes repeated for emphasis following the subject): You children pay attention. You rascal, you! Informal. (used in place of the pronoun your before a gerund): There's no sense in you getting upset. Archaic. a. yourself; yourselves: Get you home. Make you ready. b. a plural form of the pronoun ye. noun, plural yous. something or someone closely identified with or resembling the person addressed: Don't buy the bright red shirt—it just isn't you. It was like seeing another you. the nature or character of the person addressed: Try to discover the hidden you. MEANING = THE IDENTIFICATION OF THE HUE-MAN WITH THE "NAMES" OF "THE SYSTEM" - THE REFLECTION/SHADOWS OF YOU BOUNCING TO AND FRO BETWEEN THE EARS THAT IS NOT YOU.

All = REFER ABOVE

Individual = They divide us with their brainwashing of creed, culture, nation, etc, and rule us with the choices they provide us to perform "name" in "The System" - You did not create the English language with legalese, its mathematics, its geometry, its university courses & careers, titles, standings, etc, you did not create the education, religion, politics, law, Hollywood, TV, Media, Advertising, entertainment, supermarkets, highways, transport, corporations doing whatever, etc, etc, AND YOU DID NOT CREATE "NAME". They are all just choices provided for you. THIS IS NOT FREEDOM. See the post on the Mountain MAN charged and arrested with eating food in the forest because he was hungry: https://www.facebook.com/arthurcristian/posts/10203666156282519

You are seriously mistaking choice for freedom here. Choice has nothing to do with freedom. Shopping down the aisles of a supermarket is not freedom, it is choice, its ALL BEEN PROVIDED FOR YOU BY OTHERS = slaves/slavery.

What you are seeing is a BLATANT PSYOP PROGRAM where you have been hypnotised to perform to suggestion, to move to your master's command, all the while in a deep sleep.

The extensive brainwashing you have already been provided with is where you use your choice for imagining "individual law" or "universal law" and with it, "freedom". There is NO FREEDOM here. Only sheeple go through the gates of enclosures of one choice of green paddock to another but they have no freedom because they were already enclosed and forced by sheep dogs, etc, to move from one enclosure to another. Sheeple do the same thing when shopping down the isles of supermarkets or driving on roads to petrol stations, clothing shops, etc, etc......

IT IS ALL CHOICE - IT IS NOT FREEDOM

In fact, only sheeple are trapped in the UNI-VERSE-ALL that is ONE STORY going around and around and around their heads, bouncing to and fro as shadows/reflections of "name" "freedom", but this is a blatant lie because it was really only a choice already provided for them - they were already got at before they were duped into believing they had freedom within the story-telling of the uni-verse they are performing/believing in as "NAME" "FREEDOM".

Working together as a team effort around the home has NOTHING to do with universal or individual law. That is freedom when all first parties come to the table to co-create their uniqueness/originality for the team effort. NOTE: there are no third parties coming in-between any of them, telling them how to think, feel and act about anything. A MASSIVE DIFFERENCE HERE.

We need to be really vigilant and discerning about the blind-spots that are making a mess of our lives as we think/believe they are part of our true-freedom, when the FACT is, they were choices, and nothing more, meaning there is no freedom to be found there = YOU HAVE NO FREEDOM.

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We then posted all of the above on Ivana's thread and then posted this comment

Mark, please show us in all your work and in all Max's work, where you are providing freedom and not choice and that you are not providing the "names" of freedom and manipulating and using and abusing many, many people in the "name" of freedom, when it is only choice masquerading as freedom. How many curses are you manipulating into processing in the "name" of money as they react to trauma? You probably need to do some background work into what we are saying to comprehend fully what we are saying but, if you are really interested in truth and freedom for all, we assume that you will leave no stone unturned, in case you are on the wrong path. If you can't prove it and you won't change your ways, then who are you answerable to, who are you working for? Who is your master?

There are many INTEL agents out there spreading lies and causing people to get hurt in the process and there are also many, many people extremely angry about many, many things and some of them are vigilantes who have no problem carrying guns and using them. They have been reading our work, and the work of others who are putting out information that is waking people up to the truth of how people are being manipulated across the board. Many of them have been watching the scene for years and we have been asked to join them, which we will not do because we are not into violence. They have been harmed in various ways and those who are out there in front, leading the way in the psyop freedom/truth movement, as well as though associated with them, will be sitting ducks when the pressure cooker blows. For example, someone like Ivana could be a target if she is associated with you and associated with the INTEL networks that have caused so much harm to so many. Even Stephanie is a sitting duck, and all the others who support you. This is true healing that we are offering you here. Pull out, save your lives and stop the harm, stop the lying, stop the blatant manipulation. .

Our commitment is to wake people up to the real tactics and more and more people are waking up to how they have been used and abused. We don't think you guys realise the enormity of the backlash swelling against all INTEL.

This is Fiona and Arthur both writing in all these posts.

26 May at 16:42

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Jan Aloha

26 May at 16:38

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Arthur Cristian

Jan, this is not a quarrel and it is not over freedom-truth and Arthur is completely out of "The System" - no corporation owners involved with Arthur to be applauding over a quarrel.

26 May at 18:46

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Shaun Hamer

outside the box is open forum, all you have to do is skype in.

26 May at 19:06

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Wade Libbis

This was an interesting read. In Arthur and Fiona's defence....What they purpose as the solution I have felt in my being for a long time is the answer.... a mass "Exodus from the system" "Gifts of Love/Life" A "Re-education" in regards to all the poison and me, myself and I mind set...as expressed in their 10 steps to Kindom.
This has always been my intuitive thinking from my early teens...In defence of Max, I've been listening to him for quite some time now. Watched him live etc.
I do think Max is right, everyone holds a piece of the puzzle and needs to come together, but I hold in high esteem Arthur and Fiona's "solution" to the question, how to slay the beast?
From my humble perspective I don't believe either of you are pro NWO deceivers. Ya like two opposing political party's who if come together could create something powerful towards slaying the beast but you are at each others throats...In my way of thinking there are no messiahs...there cant be coz I am lol...Max, Arthur and Fiona...I love you guys for the quality of your characters and what you stand for...I believe you are all quality beings with aspirations towards love for mankind Love for Life And surviving the Matrix.

26 May at 20:25

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Jones Common As Muck Tom

unfortunately even to the destruction of the planet the masses will still not turn away from their own demise , they have become comfortably numb

26 May at 22:34

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Wade Libbis

Say Hurah hurah...whatever will be will be...

26 May at 22:36

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Arthur Cristian

Shaun - we provided all the reasons why we put the Disassociation in place with Kate Of Gaia and his work. This is our standing. Kate is not answerable to us just as we are not answerable to Kate. BUT, if Kate wants to sort out any issues that come up for Kate about us then this is up to Kate to do so. Our conscience is very clear - we have no e-motional attachments to any outcomes with Kate. We just expose the truth as we see/sense it and move on and do it again and move on and do it again and move on. The most important part of the work we do is the Kindom/Do No Harm Community Remedy which is all about setting MAN free from being under the image power of another MAN. This is all about being conscious of the many ways we cause and support harm and working through how to completely withdraw from supporting and causing harm in all its forms as fast as possible. This is all about a mass exodus out of "The System" back to NO SYSTEM. Refer to many of our posts for more on all this.

Yesterday at 02:02

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Shaun Hamer

i get that. what i meant was outside the box is an open forum, and kate says regularly, anyone who wants to disprove her work is welcome to discuss it live on air, i think it would clear things up somewhat, is all. i noticed jeanice, posted my post, of a section of text from one of your videos as proof/evidence that kate stole your work, which it is not, as far as im concerned, i posted it for what it is, and not as a reference to kate, i have referenced and thanked you in other posts of yours i have uploaded, i attempt always to consider the many ways information travels around, when i post, to some extent to minimise the risk of misinterpretation, from people who maybe arent the ones i was thinking of in posting, dependent on subject matter.but also to condense the point of the post to keep it simple, as so many have no appetite for lengthy reads these days....i remain neutral in regards to the nature and integrity of all others on this path of discovery, we are all travelling on. for instance when i post things relating to the fraud of politics, it is mainly for people i know locally who are still under the spell of it. it doesnt reflect where i am at regarding politics, as i have to 'travel backwards' on my path to address the retarded world of politicking.

Yesterday at 02:24

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Shaun Hamer

sometimes i come up with phrases and i add video/text/photos, in a way of expanding the words i have used, again its all open to interpretation i guess, but i would never purposely post someone's work to further my own point and diminish theirs, i like to think i stay in keeping with the messages i have recieved, while expanding on them where possible. i also never purposely put anyone on a pedestal. i give credit where it is due, of course, and thank you again for your inspiring work,.

Yesterday at 02:30

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Alexandros Agelastos

Don't hold your breath. And why should he take part in Keith's "show" ? Arthur is not an attention whore.

Yesterday at 02:35

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Arthur Cristian

If he has any issues then it is up to Kate to clear things up with us.

KATE OFFERS NO REMEDY TO GET MAN OUT OF "THE SYSTEM" FOREVERMORE - NOTHING - EVERYONE IS STILL STUCK IN "THE SYSTEM". Due to Kate's work, please bring forward someone who is completely out of "The System" for a few years now - we would like to talk to he/she/them and their supporters - we will do a thorough background check.

Yesterday at 02:36

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Shaun Hamer

Alexandros, i asked why not, i didnt say he should. . im not trying to make this argument bigger, i had considered what a discussion would be like with kate and arthur, prior to the dissasociation post arthur put up, i would still like to hear that discussion, though it does look unlikely now. i dont know how many times i have to say im being neutral in my questions, i only care about getting to the truth, i have no interest in personalities and doctrines,

Yesterday at 02:44

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Alexandros Agelastos

Shaun, np mate, i wasn't referring to you anyway, but Jan.

Yesterday at 02:46

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Shaun Hamer ok.

Yesterday at 02:47

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Arthur Cristian

You see with our small tribe we already have someone completely out of "The System" since 2009, and we are working on the next one completely stepping out and then the next one and the next one. Our tribe walks the talk. THIS IS FACT. All our spare waking life is creating living things like this - our goal is to set free hundreds and hundreds of us as part of the Kindom tribe we live for. People who are serious come and get involved in the DOING of FREEDOM and not just the TALKING of FREEDOM. We are MORE interested in talking with people who walk the talk of a living freedom.

From Bare Dirt To Abundance
A Year In The Life Of The
Love For Life Food Forest
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
8th February 2013
51 Minutes 46 Seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJCcCvZ97A

Yesterday at 02:47

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Arthur Cristian

This is how we are doing it

The Steps Of Kindom
Arthur & Fiona Cristian
Love For Life 2006/2007
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8304

Yesterday at 02:50

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Shaun Hamer

all i can say arthur is many who call into the show have said they are out of the system, but i cannot provide proof of this, just like if someone asked me, i couldnt provide concrete evidence that you and kate are the only ones who have cut all threads from the system.

Yesterday at 02:51

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Arthur Cristian

WE ARE VISIBLE - WE COME WITH FULL-DISCLOSURE - ANYONE FROM ANYWHERE CAN COME HERE AND HAVE A DIRECT EXPERIENCE - NOTHING IS HIDDEN - NOTHING.

Yesterday at 02:53

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Arthur Cristian

Our rest is calling

Yesterday at 02:56

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Shaun Hamer

I know its a slave system, and i intend to witness and experience, real, authentic freedom for every being, not just 'my' in-divide-u-al' freedom, because that too is a lie,, yes, it must be late over there, sleep well, pleasant dreams.

Yesterday at 02:59

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Blu Skys Intexas

I know a couple who also believes they are out of the system they went thru al the legal paperwork they travel with a tag (common law)their names are out of that system but when they got pulled over a wk ago this is what wuz said the cop stoped them becauce they do not have an inspection sticker and my brother told the cop who ask for a drivers lic he told the cop that he didn't need one to travel he did not need a inspection sticker and ect the cop ask him what is your name and as soon as he gave that a cop a name the cop got hostul with him and grab the car door and slug the door open and tried to force him out of the car my brother did not get out of the car but the officer rote him up tickets.So my ? is if the name u believe is urs and is taken out of the system then why did my brother get tickets?why did the cop get hostul when given a name?becaws the name belongs to the system it is not ours so when taken out and then u tell a cop a name ur are looked at as a being a theif and a liar I don't drink tap or aloc don't do drugs I eat mostly fruits yogerts veggies and drink distilled water I don't use sugar and ect I have been judged by Arthur and not once have I judged anyone got nothing but love for the human race I own nothing in this world nothing

Yesterday at 13:16

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Max Igan

one more post

I'll tell you what Arthur. Lets clear all this up once and for all. So in the spirit of open dialogue, I've decided that I'm actually willing to have you on the radio show to present your "remedy" and explain yourself to the world.

Before any of that is presented however, you will be required to present the conclusive evidence you have to back up the false allegations and character assassinations you have directed at me. Evidence that proves your claims Arthur. Not speculation, not conjecture, not opinion, but actual conclusive evidence that proves I am what you are saying about me to the degree of certainty that you felt it necessary to start spreading warnings about me publicly the way you have done, without ever questioning me about your "concerns". All of which, both you and I well know, are bare faced lies

When we are done with me, then you will be asked to provide evidence proving every claim and character assassination you have also directed at the many other researchers you have chosen to attack.

If you are prepared to stand in what you say I will give you the platform to prove your accusations and once you have done that we can move on to other topics. Think you can do that?

And there you go Arthur, the offer is on the table. Care to walk your talk and present all your conclusive evidence to the world? ...or do you choose back down and stand exposed as the bare faced liar and pied piper of psychobabble that you are?

Your choice

Yesterday at 14:50

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Max Igan

Oh and btw Arthur, any and all claims I have ever made about you are all in the above post and all the evidence required to prove them is your website, the main body of which consists of character assassination of others. So I don't really need to prove anything as you have already done a very adequate job of doing so yourself with 'Love For Life'. which really should be more appropriately be named 'Hatred-for-all-who-are-not-arthur-cristian', than anything at all that even vaguely resembles love... If lies truly are curses as you say Arthur then your words and website have ensured your soul will be cursed for eternity.

Yesterday at 13:19

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Max Igan

I wont be posting here again.. except maybe to say "I rest my case" if you refuse to walk your talk, so there is no real need to respond here. However if you believe you have now compiled enough of your delusional bullshit and fabrications to call me out, then I will welcome you to the show with open arms. All you have to do is send me a message and I will organise to have you on.... bye now

Yesterday at 13:25

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Blu Skys Intexas

Just one more thing and I AM out I see Arthur is saying a lot about court cases paperwork ect..U are playing in bablyon don't court cases paperwork ect keep ppl babbling on and on ur stuck in the system

Yesterday at 14:29

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Ricardo Almeida

just a question , about some of the stuff i've read ,, how can someone or something attack our character/name when all this info about name , mark of the beast , strawman etcc tells us its not really us it's all a show , a persona we take on.. isn't "our" character just acting out a play ? isn't that what a character is ....

Yesterday at 16:46

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Arthur Cristian

In response to this post put up by Jan Aloha late last night "Sydney time" which appears to have been taken down in this thread (was posted around 3.00am before going to bed), might have been posted in another thread....

Jan Aloha wrote:

after many many years on this planet
meeting a whole lot of people all over the world
one thing they all have in common
always when they talk about others
what they really do is talking about themselves
talking to themselves
when they say you, he or she . . . .
they actually say i

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We replied.........

Jan, this comment of yours is full of "buzz words". All you are doing here is trying to kidnap the living MAN, Hannah, Fiona, Arthur, Bruno, Ricardo, Jasmin, Xanthe, Emma, Frances and many others who live for this Kindom dream and re-present their thoughts, feelings and intentions = their REAL LIVES.

You are denying the originality and uniqueness of everyone involved and placing your story-telling of these buzz words over who they all really are.

Do you know these people?

Have you ever lived with them or had private dealings with them?

Where is the evidence of your direct experience with these men and women?

You are now claiming that you know their dreams and know their intentions. Is this true?

Do you practice black magic as in remote viewing, remote control and remote projection?

Are you psychic?

Do you have an all seeing eye?

The meanings you have made up about us come from you, not from us.

Do you comprehend that all your buzz words come from you, not from us and that you are lying and committing fraud.

You are doing exactly what those behind "The System" do to capture people under their image power and program them into a performance under their image.

Do we have to be how you think we should be?

Do we have to fit into your box?

The image power of these buzz words has you behave as a control freak with anyone who does not fit into your box swept under "buzz word" comments like yours.

Also, bring forward the first party Earth to back your claim that Earth is a planet. Let's here it directly from Earth, first party to first party, and not from a third party acting as an imposter of Earth. Can you arrange this for us? If you can't this is more evidence that you are lying and committing fraud.

You may have met a whole lot of people but you haven't met us so why are you trying to fit us in the same box as everyone else you have met?

You have committed slander because you are attacking the living MAN through your slander.

Are you conscious of what these buzz words are doing to you?

Is this what you are all about?

Don't you think you are using the wrong tools here?

Fiona Cristian, Hannah Wood, Arthur Cristian, Bruno Ferro, Ricardo A, and many many others of the Kindom dream we all live for.

Yesterday at 19:11

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Arthur Cristian

@ Blu Sky, we just pointed out all the storytelling of all the constructs/concepts you are performing as a 3rd party - there is no 1st party coming forward. We have not judged you, the living MAN, we just used scrutiny to expose the lies that have compromised the living MAN you really are (the evidence is in your writings) and which we live for. You are our living brother of the dream of Life. You are sacred as we all are sacred, hence why we expose all the lies to protect the sacredness of all of MAN. We dream/seek to do no harm to you, the living MAN. There has never been any intention to do harm to you. If you are detached from belief systems and therefore no longer e-motionally pulled by the programming of the belief system that is a lie, you might come to see/sense where we were really coming from when writing the last post to you.

Yesterday at 18:29

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Wade Libbis

Would love you n Max to get on air together Arthur....

Yesterday at 18:50

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Arthur Cristian

@ Bly Sky - come 2009 Fiona dropped the last of "name's" court cases and filing paper work etc. Even though Arthur was no longer contracting "name" for any commercial benefits, services, privileges, etc, 2009, he was exchanging letters with the State Debt Recovery Office until March 2011, then they gave up. Since March 2005 it has been a massive learning curve for us - we blatantly and willingly used our lives as Guinea pigs to get to the bottom of everything going on and work out what was lies and what was truth. Now we are clear and are moving ahead.

Fiona and others are still in "The System" - if they chose to come after Fiona, etc, we are now very clear what to do in their world and even though Arthur is NOT of their world ("The System" of "names") Arthur will be taking full-responsibility to make matters whole, one way or another.

Put it this way, any re-presentative of "The System" who dreams to have our tribe caught up in such actions/dreamings of theirs will be, of their "own" free-will, committing spiritual suicide to who they really are and to their families, their loved ones, their children, their associates, their benefactors, etc. Through clear intention/dreaming set into motion in present-sense, we make/force them to process the curses of their "own" making in present-sense and this intention is absolute, etc, there is NO doubt or uncertainty in our dreaming.

This "private" first party to first party process does not end until they make WHOLE with all those they harmed or sought to harm or they have killed themselves in whatever way they create their exit. We provide them the choice of eternal life or eternal death. Through first party to first party direct experience we use their free-will to experience the consequences/outcomes of their "own" dreaming/intentions. We do not create the curse - they do - we just use their "own" curses against themselves.

There already is a trail of wreckage involving at least 20 families in law and 17 pedophiles. Unexpectedly, we always cry and feel sadness when news comes to us of their undoing. This is something not to gloat about or celebrate - we sense the loss of our living brothers/sisters to the dark-side of MANS "own" making. There is nothing to advertise about this and we protect the privacy of those who remain at the effect of such loss. These matters are private between them and us BUT all were visited by Arthur and provided with FULL-DISCLOSURE of our intentions. Our articles, etc, posted this year (more to come) explains all this in greater detail.

Yesterday at 19:06

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Hank Lion

Arthur, will you do the show with Max?

22 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

Max. This is Fiona and Arthur writing. We are working on a reply, and it won't be short because we are giving a lot of attention to detail to all your posts and we are going to explain a lot to you. It is unlikely to be finished tonight but it will be done tomorrow, barring unexpected interruptions and posted. Fiona is going to bed very shortly.

20 hours ago

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Vicki Victoria

I'm gonna put my 2 cents worth in....what Max Igan said I found extremely interesting because Kate of Gaia is just like that description..he attacks people too: Heather Tucci Jarraff, Karen Hudes, Kevin Annett , the OPPT crowd, and let's not forget the whining native cunt, as he called her, that he has such a disliking to. He says they can come onto his show but they never accept the invitation...it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why. He storms off his radio show when people oppose his opinion or off other people's shows. He talks over people and he incites violence and has no remedy other than to 'have a bowl' or do DMT. He has said, "Don't read anybody else work. Just read mine'....fair dinkum. He calls people meat-sticks and that's derogatory and then he says he loves us....he is a schism. He says to tell the police that you are Phoenician...well that will help, won't it. Guests who were active have disappeared from the show...the ones fighting the banks and going to court. If a guest seems to be more knowledgeable than Kate then he either attacks or disassociates from them. What I've found with a lot of researchers, especially when they've commenced on their own path, is that they become isolated and are not up to date with the current research of others....oh well, looks like my 2 cents worth is suffering from inflation.

19 hours ago

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Blu Skys Intexas

I said from the being I/we/us were not of this world and ya did nothing but critized me I do not own anything in this world including the name but be my guest take ur name out of the system how much blood money dus this cost u (for the love of money)

19 hours ago

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Arthur Cristian

"I did not get that from Kate I al ways known this I READ MI SCRIPT URS when I wuz about 6/7 befor any one could realy corrupt MI MIND Kate has gotten some information from me an knew exactly what I wuz saing when everyone else dismisses it an she says it al thye time listen wit ur eyes and see with ur ears as long as ppl stay in the literal (current state of mind) will not see/hear this It is as simple as Kate says lose the name and yet it will be the hardest thin for ppl to do until they know who they are and I got a lot of love for those ppl coz it is a narrow path and thin she says win the game WE AL MADE A CONTRACT WITH OUR CREATOR BEFOR COMMIN HERE TO PLAY THE GAME so get in the GAME SCRIPTURES say finesh ur first works ask ur wife what kinda of games did she and her friends play or the little nursery rymes when they were youngsters/yung stars Kate an I didn't leave anythin out this is something that man needs to leave out of his beleifs.I sent u and ur wife a post a few months ago about a SUMMONS and ask what u thot about what i rote on the back u rote back an told me that I first must get mi house in order I have no hard feelins towards any one but mi house is in order I HAVE BEEN READY TO GO HOME FOR A LONG TIME MI HOUSE IS HERE AND IT IS CALLED AQUARIUS everyone needs to pull it together because this is a WAR BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL and the grand prize is our soul"

18 hours ago

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Blu Skys Intexas

I know a cuple who paid 33,000 dollars to have their names removed from system they haf no lic inspection tag (common law) got pulled over the cop said he pulled them over for no inspection sticker and started askin for ID my bro said don't need one to travel ect the cop ask him for his NAME as soon as the NAME wuz givin the game wuz on my bro ther said the cop grabed the car door slung it open trying to force him out of the car but he did not get out but got severl tickits.Now tell me if the NAME is out of the system why are these people haven to go fill out more paperwork go to court and pay fines?no remedy in that just more money blood money

18 hours ago

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Blu Skys Intexas

I listen to Katre be caws she knows who she is

17 hours ago

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Max Igan

I am not interested and will not have you harvest my energy by reading one of your vacuous, mind numbing NLP diatribes Arthur, a simple yes or no will suffice... either you are prepared to walk your talk and come on air to present evidence of your false accusations against me, or you are not.... that is all I will bother reading a yes, or a no.

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